over delivering. so this was a distinct change, i think, in messaging and sort of represents a noof phase according to some of the people i talked to who are responsible for the vaccine rollout. i think numbers wise, yeah, it's totally possible when you start to look at the amount of vaccine that's available, look from moderna, pfizer, johnson & joh johnson, getting the vaccines into people's arms, and also into hard-to-reach communities. it's not a slam dunk. i think the vaccine itself will be available but to make sure people actually can have access to it, people who want it can have access, it's still a question mark. i also think that the idea then that they say by july 4th we're going to have this ability to basically, as he's describing, this return to normalcy. again, i think it's very doable. it seems very realistic, but this is a different sort of change in messaging from this white house. >> i was going to ask you, sanjay, what you think the major obstacles are in the way of hitting these numbers beyond the logistics, and i think you got a little bit of a sense of what president biden thinks the obstacles may be by the number of times he grabbed his mask to show the number of people. >> right, exactly. so i think there's a couple things. so certainly what you're talking about in terms of are people going to let their guard down with public health practices, how much of an impact will these variants actually have, but it's interesting -- i think it's almost a little bit of the opposite as well and what i mean is that things are obviously improving. we've talked about that for several weeks now be the numbers are coming down, hospitalization rates and death rates are coming down. vaccine hesitancy has been an issue but i would almost describe what they're worried about more as sort of vaccine fade in the sense that people are not hesitant necessarily about getting the vaccine but you're going into the warmer months, the numbers look a lot better. i'm good. i don't really need it. and then you go back into the colder months and you have a large percentage, too large a percentage of the country, that is unprotected and the numbers could go back up. i think this idea you're going to get to may and a lot of people who aren't necessarily hesitant but i don't think that's an issue anymore. that's what i think they're trying to avoid. so creating the sense of urgency. by may 1st, there's going to be eligibility for everyone. by the end of may, hopefully everyone will be vaccinated that wants to be vaccinated and we hope that percentage is really high. so that's, i think, one of the big things he was addressing last night. i think your point about the variants and what could happen over the next several weeks, stuff that is talked about all the time on your show is very real as well. >> sanjay, what's happening with it italy? cases had been coming down dramatically, then they plateaued. now they're going back up. we hear the prime minister is going to be addressing the nation this morning about a lockdown over easter weekend because of this. are they doing something different than we're doing? do they not have as much vaccine? what's happening there? >> first of all, we should pay attention to italy, right? this is feeling like deja vu. well, we're not going to be italy, are we? that's italy. we surpassed italy in terms of number of cases per capita. they haven't vaccinated as much as the united states has. it's closer to around 3%. we have seen the numbers go up and the dominant strain is becoming this uk strain that we've talked about a lot. you see the numbers. i think we have the death rates as well in italy and what you'll find is that obviously it's a lagging indicator but it has still stayed on a downward trajectory. the last seven-day average still lower than several weeks before that. so those numbers still coming down. might they come up? perhaps a bit because their vaccination rates aren't as high as ours. we are vaccinating, i think, increasingly the right people and people who are at the greatest risk of actually getting sick and dying, and i think that will help us in terms of hospitalizations and deaths. but the issue i think more than anything else is that their trigger for basically going into a lockdown is much lower, i think, significantly lower than the united states. the idea that we would go into some sort of lockdown, again, seems almost impossible especially as you see 16 states lifting their mandates at this point. would it work in this country? yeah, of course it would work. you keep people home, the virus can't spread as easily. will that happen here? no. i think we will probably have a greater impact in terms of cases because of these variants, but if the hospitalizations and deaths don't increase as much i think that probably we're not going to see any aggressive measures in this country. >> sanjay, thank you very much. president biden will hold a signing ceremony this afternoon at the rose garden. he will be there with democratic congressional leaders. not a single republican voted for this massive relief bill. then next week the president and vice president begin selling the relief package across the country. joining us now political analyst david gregory. david, i want to play again part of what we played before. just the president's speech where he talks to the american people and asks them for things i haven't really heard in a way from a president before. listen. >> i will not relent until we beat this virus, but i need you, the american people, i need you. i need every american to do their part. i need you to get vaccinated when it's your turn and when you can find an opportunity and to help your family, your friends, your neighbors get vaccinated as well. >> you know, you were at the white house after 9/11, and i'm not saying presidents haven't called for sacrifice before, david, but i don't remember seeing a president lean over a podium like that and reach out and basically shake americans by the lapels and say, i need you. help me. help me. it was different. >> it felt a lot more reading about fdr than seeing modern presidents we've could have had in that setting in the east room who are more formal and are more grave and certainly president biden had the gravity, but i was struck by the same thing. he leaned forward. he's a very professional politician. he's been for decades, as we know, but he has not lost that common touch and that is really what defines him and the empathy. so to combine the empathy, the ability to lead the country in grieving but then say i need something very specific of you. and as you were discussing with sanjay, it's so important the weather is getting warmer. look at our polling showing most people think we're basically out of this thing. there's still so metropolitan pain out in the country economically, of course, and there are more precautions at that take with regard to this virus. it was a fine line for the president to walk, and i thought he did it very well. >> and given that there's so much economic pain, were you surprised that he didn't trumpet the $1.9 trillion more? >> yeah, well, a couple of things. i'm surprised where he put it in the speech, and i still think he has from a political point of view some salesmanship to do, which he will be doing across the country. and i raise the politics because no republicans voted for this that we know. i think the playbook there is to look to the midterms. it's very much like how republicans stood in the way of president obama's agenda. but there is a sense of do we still need all of this money? is it targeted enough? is this more of a progressive giveaway? and republicans after trump are going to want to go back to the one thing that they felt was working against democrats which is to say be afraid of the left, be afraid of too much government. and this is going to be a big target. i was a little surprised he didn't break down specifically what it would do and why it's still needed. again, what sanjay mentioned, the president still faces the obstacle of people feeling we're even further ahead than we are. if people are thinking, oh, great, july 4th we can gather, people are already doing that in a lot of quarters, and they'll do more of that. they won't just stay outside on july 4th. the public health community realizes that, and they're trying to pull people back to a safer zone. >> it's a little different when people -- it's hard to imagine people being afraid of a $1,400 check in their mailbox or being afraid of an increased child tax credit, which an enormous number of americans will be getting. so i absolutely agree with you on the big government argument but it's just a little bit different this time than has been made in the past. >> i totally agree and i think this is the fear really republicans have of how do you oppose people getting free money? but, let's remember, major entitlements, even like health care reform, right, that was delivering health care to so many people, that was something that you'd be hard to turn down and yet a big government program of any stripe becomes a big target. certainly in the shorter term it gets harder to take away. but i think that the opportunity here is for the president and his team to say there is this huge need. it's been there for a long time and we're going to be there for you while you're trying to recover and the country is trying to recover from the virus and from all of the effects of the virus that we're going to see. he also has, i think, an obligation to really hit the idea hard of reopening schools. i think parents are waiting for this, this evidence that it's safe to do so. i think he will be judged on that and that has to be a major piece and he should be touting the money going toward that end as participate of this bill. >> david gregory, thanks for being with us this morning. so republican states, republican-led states, racing to roll back access to voting after the 2020 election. what is going on in florida? 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>> bill as it sits right now is just that, several things in it that are very unkind to the voter. it creates a tremendous burden on us, the administrators of the elections, and, you know, it's a time like this when my legislative experience does come in handy because i realize that it's not time to push the panic button. let's just everybody stay calm and recognize that while their intentions are probably good, their methods need some guidance. they need some adult supervision, if you will, from the elections professionals. and our 67 election supervisors in this state did a tremendous job last year, and so we need to have the legislators come sit down and listen to how things should be done correctly, but for us to eliminate the use of drop boxes is a total, total mistake. >> and, quickly, senator, are they open to that, or are the republican state politicians open to coming in and being educated about this? >> i expect they are. if they're not, hang on. we'll have some more interviews, i'm sure, because we supervisors are determined to do everything that we can to enhance the election day experience for all our voters. that's one of the great things i totally enjoy about this job now is we can discard all the partisanship. we're all about good public policy. and to eliminate the use of drop boxes is bad policy. >> how many voters in florida use the drop boxes and were there significant problems or even insignificant problems with that? >> well, good morning. about a million and a half voters in florida used drop boxes. they're convenient. you can avoid waiting in long lines as a result of those drop boxes as well as using early voting in your mail. but the drop boxes were important last year because there were concerns about the united states postal service. this proposal this tallahassee is a solution in search of a problem. even governor desantis has said that 2020 was a model election in florida and then he immediately contradicts himself by saying we need election reform. that makes no sense whatsoever. >> so, senator, you are a republican. you know these folks who are still in the state government. why are they doing this? >> i didn't ask why because, frankly, i don't care why. it's not good policy and i'm going to oppose it. so why waste my time asking them why are you doing this? >> i guess because it begs the question are they doing it to restrict voting access? >> again, alisyn, i don't care why they're doing it. it's not good policy, and i'm going to fight every day of the week to protect the voting privileges of the people of lake county whom i represent and i answer to the people of lake county and not to the people of tallahassee. >> so this is interesting to see bipartisanship about this and yet this effort. so who is going to win and why do you think they're so hellbent on doing this? >> we truly hope the voters win and support the supervisors of elections and the poll workers who put on a great election last year. who will benefit? it certainly won't be the voters of florida. you're going to be restricting the access to vote by mail. you're going to be restricting the ballot boxes by completely eliminating them. one wonders just what's going on here. we think it's voting suppression. >> and you think it's voter suppression because, why? don't republicans use drop boxes? >> absolutely. and that's why it makes no sense what they're doing. they're claiming we put on a great election, yet they want to make improvements. why fix what is not broken? >> senator, you at the end of the day do not think this bill will pass? >> no, ma'am, i do not. our association has offered language to make it acceptable and to keep the use of the drop boxes, and they will be secure. they were secure. we have no evidence, nobody yet, has put anything before us and said on this day at this place at this time we saw this dastardly act take place. none of that is here. and to patti's point this appears at this time to be a solution looking for a problem, and so our association is offering to the legislators the language that will put in the statute the proper kind of security and still allow the voters to use these drop boxes which are a very important part of our election process. >> well, patricia brigham, allen hayes, you both make a compelling case. we'll see who is listening. thank you both very much. >> okay, thank you. >> thank you. >> so the massive relief package is now law. it is supported only by the democrats in congress. one representative is taking issue with what his republican colleagues are focused on. that's next. some say this is my greatest challenge. governments in record debt; inflation rising, currencies falling. but i've seen centuries of this. with one companion that hedges the risks you choose and those that choose you. the physical seam of a digital world, traded with a touch. my strongest and closest asset. the gold standard, so to speak ;) people call my future uncertain. but there's one thing i am sure of... so you're a small business, or a big one. you were thriving, but then... oh. ah. okay. plan, pivot. how do you bounce back? 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>> well, i think you could hear a collective sigh of relief and i thought joe biden did a magnificent job last night of really being the adult in the room, setting the course for the country, being calm, saying we have to come together. and these people will be better off, our citizens will be better off. they have unemployment extended until september. that's a big sigh of relief that they're going to be able to make ends meet until then and then the president is talking about, you know, june/july, things starting to open back up so people can go back to work, they can get a job. i think they feel a lot better. it sounds like these $1,400 checks will start getting out the door here real quick. so people are going to feel immediate relief, but it's the emotional toll that has been taken on so many families, so many people that just -- and you're cooped up. you don't have social interaction and all of these things. it's been the perfect storm. so i think ignoring those needs and all of a sudden talking about, oh, my god, budget deficits. no one -- no republican was talking about budget deficits for four years when trump was in. so it's time to start taking care of the american worker. >> i noticed the last couple of nights on a different cable station, not a news station, this guy, tucker carlson, using his soapbox to criticize the military for, i think -- and i don't really understand what he's saying because it's hard to follow along there, but for making military uniforms for women who are pregnant. is that the type of thing you are talking about, pulling the focus from what matters to the american people? >> yeah, no question. and i don't think there's anything like an economic -- a severe economic challenge for the country to really refocus people. and so what fox is doing, what tucker is doing, what the right-wing media apparatus is doing is fighting the last war, honestly, and that stuff worked in good economic times. that stuff worked when the stock market was going crazy and people were back to work, but now it's tone deaf. they're going down the road of cultural wars and democrats are moving no a space i've been advocating for for a long time, the economic space and they're leaving it wide open and so there's an opportunity here for us to say, look, this is the mature party. we're the ones who understand how to govern the country and the other side is out in left field talking about things that aren't relevant to the economic needs of the american people and they're going to pay a big price for that. >> well, are they? i do wonder because politics in some ways is a free market system. there's supply and demand. it's possible that side is doing this because they think there's a demand. in places like youngstown there's support for the former president and maybe his type of rhetoric. what is the disconnect you are hearing from people about what they're being told by republicans? >> look, trump is a unique animal, a unique political animal. once in a generation type of candidate but, look, take one example. trump was pushing for the $2,000 check and these guys are balking at that. they don't want to do it. and so they're getting off of, which is fine, but they're getting off of the message really that they used to have about helping people economically. and so that's not what your uniforms look like if you're pregnant and in the military or what some of these dr. seuss books have said or all of these other things they keep talking about that just aren't relevant. they're not meeting the moment. and so they're getting away from the very recipe that got trump elected in the first place. >> congressman, i don't know if you heard but there was big political news in ohio overnight which is that geraldo rivera announced he is not going to run for the open senate seat of portman. i wasn't joking. it's true. he did announce it. >> i know. >> let me ask you, where are you on your plans about whether to run for senate? >> i was about ready to start growing a mustache. i mean, that's where i was going. no, we're looking at it very closely. it's a heck of an opportunity. the senate needs, i think, a strong voice on behalf of workers, what you heard in the intro with the speech on the floor. i think the senate could use somebody like that similar to sherrod brown where we're talking about workers, whether they're white or they're black or they're brown or they're gay or they're straight. working class people need a strong economic voice in the senate. so we're looking very closely at it. it's exciting for all of us in ohio. we haven't held a seat in decades. so we're looking at it very closely and we're getting a lot of support from around the country. a lot of phone calls, a lot of people want to raise money for us. so the unions have come out and endorsed before we even announced, so that's a good sign. so we're looking at it very closely. we won't break any news this morning with you but we'll keep you posted. >> decision by when? >> i don't know. i'm doing a lot of work on the security of the capitol, that's the committee i chair appropriations in charge of funding the supplemental bills taking up a good deal of my time with speaker pelosi and congresswoman delauro so that's eating up a good deal of time right now. so once weep get through this a little bit more, we'll make a decision. >> congressman tim ryan, thank you for being with us. if you want to break some news, come on "new day" to do it. >> you're some of my favorites. a veteran police officer in kala kalamazoo, michigan, is using his own money to help the homeless. how this officer went beyond the call of duty. it's been kind of quiet. >> reporter: a silent shift. >> i work the day shift from 7:00 a.m. to 7:00 p.m. >> reporter: it is a gift. >> it's tough wearing a badge in general. >> reporter: he patrols the streets of kalamazoo, michigan. >> i don't think about the worst calls. >> reporter: but some calls he will never forget. >> a majority of the calls we get downtown are with the homeless. >> reporter: this is the largest homeless encampment in the city. >> so a lot of the tents are bunched up, as you can see. >> reporter: the area is filled with fearly 90 tents people use for shelter. police say they were dispatched here 19 times in february. officer alwin realized people here needed his help. >> the ones that are on the outside areas kind of keep to themselves. >> reporter: motivating the 21-year veteran to go beyond the call of duty. >> he has been a bundle of joy for not only our organization, the city, but, more importantly, the people that he has served in our community. >> reporter: at least three families now have a place to call home thanks to alwin connecting them to city resources, and he has help. >> my wife has been amazing. >> reporter: together they supply essentials. >> gloves, hats, and socks. >> we get batteries, flashlights. >> reporter: homelessness. >> repor >> it's not a crime to be homeless. >> my brother struggled for years. >> reporter: jen's brother is now off the streets , and his story reminds alwin why he does this work. >> each and every one of us can be in this situation in the drop of a hat, whether the market crashes or we lose a loved one. >> reporter: alwin kept his work a secret for months. now that the word is out, other officers have pitched in, too, here on some of the coldest michigan nights. >> you get accustomed to the weather. it's michigan. one day it's 60. the next day it's negative 2. >> reporter: alwin and jen pay for the supplies with their own money. the price? 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christi romans with all the answers. this weekend families can expect thousands of dollars in relief. this law is a historic rescue of working families and low-income americans and the treasury secretary says, no, it's not too big. >> i don't believe we've overshot the mark. i think this package is the right size. we put it together by asking what are the needs of americans? where do we need to get money and how much to relieve all the suffering that's occurring in the economy? >> reporter: how much? checks now for 90% of americans, if your bank information is on file with the irs that money could come in days. it's based on your most recent tax return, that's 2019 if you haven't filed for 2020 yet. the full $1,400 for people making up to $75,000, phasing out at $80,000. a $1,400 check for each child and this time adult dependents qualify, an elderly parent or college-aged child qualify. there's an extra $300 a week in jobless benefits. that's through the fall. but maybe most critical is the child tax credit, a guaranteed income for the year for low-income families. regular direct deposits from the government instead of a lump sum at tax time. unclear how long it will take the treasury department to start getting those payments into families' checking accounts. we have come so far, john and alisyn. a year ago this week, remember, the stock market crashed. the dow dropped 2,000 points. the worst point drop in history. fast forward a year and the dow is now up 38% since then. guys, the same week 12 years ago it was the bottom in the 2008-2009 stock market crash. remember a subprime housing mess led to a financial crisis, sparked a downturn so terrible it urned its own nickname the great recession. the dow crashed to 6400. it set a record high yesterday above 32,000. and, john and alisyn, also this week in history do you remember the stock puppet? yes, this week in the year 2000 the dot-com bubble collapsed. this is the week the nasdaq topped 5,000 and lost half of its value in a heartbeat. it took years to recover. look at that, today the nasdaq is above 13,000. i guess bottom line the lesson is that crises come and go, alisyn, but it doesn't pay to bet against america, right? >> that's a very good lesson and thank you for the sock puppet. >> remember? do you know there are some people who may not remember. >> i do get it confused with the triumph dog. one was very naughty. >> one went from ipo to liquidation in 260 days or something. that was 2000 in tech stocks. >> thank you very much for the explainer, christine. great to see you. so days after harry and meghan's bombshell, the world witnessed their bond after the loss of their mother, but it turns out the royal brothers have been growing apart for longer than we knew. cnn's max foster is live in england with more. what have you learn, max? >> reporter: alisyn, the queen is head of state in 16 countries around the world including the uk, and the future of monarchy looks different in those countries now that the sussexs aren't part of it but there's also the human story here, isn't there, the way the two brothers grew up in the public eye united through tragedy and now, sadly, drifting apart. have you spoken to your brother since the interview? >> i haven't but i will do. >> reporter: can you let me know is the royal family a racist family, sir? >> we're very much not a racist family. >> reporter: a reporter breaking protocol with unsolicited questions. the royal rift never more apparent than just days after a scathing no-holds barred interview in which harry made allegation that is will live with the monarchy for years if not decades. prince william still the heir, prince harry no longer his stand-in, an ocean apart for the distance between the two even greater. >> the relationship is space at the moment. >> reporter: that space confirmed, it seemed, on thursday by the future king of the united kingdom, a far cry from this. >> he's definitely got more brains than me. when it comes to hands on, i'm much better. >> reporter: when it comes to the ribbing of two brothers who have been through so much show how inseparable their bond seemed to be. >> pretty rich coming from a ginger. >> reporter: these two young men who had grown up being watched by millions living through the unimaginable tragedy of losing their mother as young boys and emerging on the other side candidly exposing their pain. >> we have been brought closer because of circumstances as well. you are uniquely bonded because of what we've been through. >> reporter: making mental health a centerpiece of their platform. unaware of the duty on william's duties as future king. their grandmother only adding to the burden they were meant to share. >> there were times both myself and my brother wished obviously that we were just completely normal, but we've been born into this position and, therefore, will do what we need to do. >> reporter: but after a period of smooth sailing, royal tours, engagements, weddings and birth, rumors of turmoil within. becoming reality as harry and meghan took steps last year to stand back and ultimately to stand apart. prince william reportedly saddened by the couple's decision. according to "the sunday times" saying to a friend, i put my arm around my brother all our lives, and i can't do that anymore. we're separate entities. harry solidifying that separation in a sitdown tell-all with his wife to oprah winfrey. >> he's my brother. we've been through hell together. we have a shared experience, but we are on different paths. >> reporter: alisyn, no word yet on when the two brothers plan to speak. i think everyone is rooting for them and hoping they can patch things up. >> i agree, max. looking at those videos of them in their playful moments during their bond, those were really heartwarming. i think that we all felt like, oh, they had found some sort of peace after the horrible tragedy and we hope that they can get back to that. max, thank you very much for all of the reporting. so this weekend marks one year since breonna taylor was killed by louisville police. next, her mother will be here on why still no one has been held accountable. woman: i have moderate to severe plaque psoriasis. now, there's skyrizi. ♪ things are getting clearer ♪ ♪ yeah i feel free ♪ ♪ to bare my skin, ♪ ♪ yeah, that's all me ♪ ♪ nothing and me ♪ ♪ go hand in hand ♪ ♪ nothing on my skin, that's my new plan ♪ ♪ nothing is everything ♪ woman: keep your skin clearer with skyrizi. with skyrizi, 3 out of 4 people achieved 90% clearer skin at 4 months. of those, nearly 9 out of 10 sustained it through 1 year. and skyrizi is 4 doses a year, after 2 starter doses. ♪ i see nothing in a different way ♪ ♪ and it's my moment so i just gotta say ♪ ♪ nothing is everything ♪ skyrizi may increase your risk of infections and lower your ability to fight them. before treatment, your doctor should check you for infections and tuberculosis. tell your doctor if you have an infection or symptoms such as fevers, sweats, chills, muscle aches, or coughs or if you plan to, or recently received a vaccine. ♪ nothing is everything ♪ woman: now is the time to ask your dermatologist about skyrizi. i've lost count of how many asthma attacks i've had. i've been on and off oral steroids to manage my asthma. does that sound normal to you? 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>> tomorrow, the family has planned a rally that's a continuing call for justice. for the family and many there still has not been justice for br bre breonna, and they'll continue to feel that way until the officers who are responsible for her death are criminally charged. >> a grand jury declined to do that. what now? is it still possible any of the officers could be charged? >> i think we have to go back and remember a grand jury did not decline to charge the officers. instead, it was daniel cameron's office who decided not to present charges on behalf of breonna to a grand jury. so a grand jury has never heard charges as it relates to the killing of breonna taylor. that's primarily what the family and community is asking for at this time, to let the criminal justice system play its course, present charges to a grand jury, and let the grand jury decide if the charges should be held accountable. not take that decision making into the hands of the prosecutor, and that's what daniel cameron did. >> thank you for that clarification. that is really important. here are the things that have happened since her killing. the family got a big settlement, a big financial settlement, $12 million. from the louisville police department. and i know that no amount of money can ever, you know, heal a hole in our hearts, but is that accountability on some level? is that holding the police department responsible on some level? >> it holds the police accountable and the city accountable, but it does not hold the officers responsible for breonna's murder aeer accountable. that's what the family continues to ask for. for the officers who lied to get a search warrant for her apartment to be held accountable as anyone else would be under the law. >> we think we have resolved our technical problems so joining us is breonna taylor's mom, tamika palmer. thank you for your patience with us. we have been talking about this year, how hard and horrible this year has been for you. what are your thoughts as we approach tomorrow, the one-year mark? >> crazy that it's been a year. still unbelievable. >> i know that you -- i read that you said mostly anger. >> definitely. definitely anger. just anger that the way this whole thing happened, anger that it was so avoidable. and anger that she lost her life for it. >> and anger that no one has been held accountable. what would justice for breonna mean for you? >> to have these officers arrested and charged and convicted. that's it. >> have the louisville police ever satisfactorily told you why this happened? >> no. >> you haven't had communication with them? >> not at all. >> isn't that incredible? >> it's insane. it's disrespectful. it's -- >> would you want to talk to them? >> at this point, i don't really know what they could say. like, you've avoided me for a year. i don't know what it would do at this point. >> yeah. a few things have happened since breonna was killed. there have been some changes made in the police department. so no-knock warrants banned in louisville, kentucky. that happened. there's also this disciplinary flag system. an early warning system adopted to flag officers with any disciplinary problems. there's a search warrant approval overhaul, the commanding officer has to review and now give written approval for all search warrants. there's also community policing they're trying to beef up, where officers are encouraged to perform two hours of paid community service. there's also -- it's now mandatory for ambulances to be idling nearby when police conduct a search. do you feel those things are progress, that those things on some small level are justice? >> no, i don't think that they're justice at all. they don't help breonna, but the goal is for there not to be another breonna, so you know, there's steps moving forward to insure, hopefully insure this won't happen again. >> and so, ms. baker, tell us about that. i hear what you're saying about what you both want right now. what so many want. what the protests want. but what can happen here next? >> well, it's still very possible for these officers and their charges to be presented to a grand jury. and at the end of the day, that's what we ask for. we have always maintained if this was a decision of the grand jury, we may not be happy with it, but we could accept it was at least presented the way everyone else's charges are presented. however, that's yet to happen. so the charges still can be presented to a grand jury. there's nothing to prohibit that from happening, and that's what we're going to continue to push for. there's still an ongoing federal investigation. we look forward to that wrapping up and for charges -- the appropriate charges to come out of that, but with that, there's no timeline on that investigation, so we just don't know when that's going to wrap up, but the family, the community, we're here and we're going to stay here and continue to fight. and it's the only way we're going to ever change things is for these officers to begin to be held accountable. >> tamika, i anyhow you said the tens of,000s of protesters who marched in honor of breonna have given you strength. >> yes. >> what do you say to them today? >> thank you. thank you that i'm grateful that the work hasn't went unnoticed. but to not lose focus, to not give up. because we still haven't got what we came for. that's justice. and so until that happens, i just hope they continue to have the strength and the courage to be out in the streets. >> yeah. tamika palmer, lanita baker, thank you both very much. we're thinking of you as we will be tomorrow as well. >> thank you. >> thank you. and "new day" continues right now. this is "new day" with alisyn camerota and john berman. >> good morning, everyone. welcome to our viewers in the united states and around the world. this is "new day." imagine a july 4th barbecue, a backyard barbecue. >> are you inviting me? >>