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this is cnn breaking news. hello again, everyone. thanks so much for joining me. i'm frederricka whitfield. right now the u.s. is on the verge of another major milestone in the fight against coronavirus. a panel of cdc advisers is set to vote any moment now on whether to recommend the onjohnn & johnson vaccine for people over the age of 18. the group will also make recommendations on who should get priority access. jacqueline howard joining me now. jacqueline, what are we anticipating and how quickly would a recommendation go into play? >> right now the cdc advisory panel, fred, is meeting to vote on whether to recommend the vaccine, and then what happens next, like you said, the director will sign off on the recommendations, and then in the next few days, we could see the official rollout of the third authorized covid-19 vaccine here in the united states. and here's what the rollout plan will look like. we've looked at these numbers before, but they're really important. johnson & johnson says that it will have 3.9 million doses ready to go, ready to ship out, and those doses will be allocated to states and local jurisdictions, retail pharmacies, federally qualified health centers and community vaccine centers. so that's what we can expect to see in the next few days, fred, this rollout happen, but it all depends on first hearing from the cdc. and during the cdc panel meeting that's, again, happening right now, i watched some of the meeting today and there were discussions on data around the efficacy of this vaccine. now, when trial data were first published, there were some raised eyebrows because the vaccine did not show as high of an efficacy number as moderna and pfizer, which are already authorized. but here's what those numbers are. the study -- excuse me, the vaccine was studied in the united states, latin america and south africa, and it was found to be 72% effective in preventing moderate and severe covid-19, 95% against preventing covid-19. and though it's not as high as the moderna and pfizer vaccine, it's still pretty high. they said there is no reason to think that the johnson & johnson vaccine is not worth getting if it is made available to you. actually, fred, dr. anthony fauci, the chief medical adviser to president biden, he said if he were not already vaccinated and he had the opportunity to get this vaccine, he would take it. have a listen. >> if i were not vaccinated now and i had a choice of getting a j & j vaccine now or waiting for another vaccine, i would take whatever vaccine would be available to me as quickly as possible for the simple reason of what i said a moment ago. we want to get as many people vaccinated as quickly and as expeditiously as possible. >> reporter: you see there, there is this effort to get people vaccinated as quickly as possible, and there is hope that the johnson & johnson vaccine, which is a one-dose shot and easy to store, it just requires refrigeration, there is hope that this vaccine will help in our fight against covid-19. fred? >> it certainly seems more simplified. we shall see. jacqueline howard, thank you so much. joining me now, dr. swami nation. thank you for joining me. who should qualify for this vaccine? >> we don't know if there is a best group, but we can kind of tailor it. if there is a group that's harder for them to get to the site for a vaccination, that's the group we should be targeting because it's a single dose. i think we should flip this around, too, saying, where should we get this vaccine because there were limitations with the other two. we need to bring this vaccine to people and change the way we're doing this, bring the vaccine to people instead of people to the vaccine. >> you're zeroing in on the access and those are the determinations that really need to be made that will make a huge difference in terms of, you know, who is getting it. this means that offices such as yourself, hospitals that you work in, would be able to store it more handily as the other vaccines. you need special refrigeration, et cetera. do you believe this is a real game changer, is this going to make a sizeable impact, in your view, in addressing this pandemic? >> it's going to make a big impact. it might not be immediate because of the limavailable dos we have right away, but it lets us get to where we were limited before. the one shot dose is important, too. with the others you had to get one shot and then make an appointment to get another shot. it really avoids some of these big issues. when you look at marginalized groups or groups that have been having difficult access, this is the perfect vaccine. what dr. fauci said is absolutely right. we have to get the shots into arms. the more people we get the vaccine to, the better it's going to be for everybody, the less the variants are going to spread. so we really need to be getting this to people, doing it quickly, and we've all been saying the same thing. the best shot you can get, the best vaccine, is the one you can get right now. >> i love this ice cream truck imagery you just put into my head here. but you do need to address to some who say, okay, the efficacy rate is under 70% whereas pfizer and moderna, it's very high, over 90%, so what do you say to people who say they are either going to wait, you know, for this single dose or perhaps refrain from it because of what i just stated with the efficacy rates? >> i think we're focused on the wrong number here. yes, it is important to reduce all infections, but more important than that is to prevent serious infections, no deaths in people who get the vaccine, and that's what we're focusing on. zero deaths, massive reduction in the united states, massive reduction in severe disease. we need to be focused on those numbers, and i will tell people get the vaccine you can get right now. >> and research is continuing on johnson & johnson because right now they're studying pregnant women very soon. that could be as early as april. the cdc says getting vaccinated is a personal choice for pregnant women as there is limit data availability about the safety. what is your view on pregnant women and whether they should be vaccinated? >> we really do need to see better data on this, and any data, really, is what we need to see. this is a hard thing because this is how most drugs, most vaccines get tested. they don't get tested in pregnancy. but organizations around the world have said this is probably the right thing to do, is to get this vaccine if you're pregnant, because the danger of getting covid is far more than the dangers from the vaccines themselves. but we would like to have some data to really be able to tell our patients this is the best thing to do based on evidence. right now we're saying it's the best thing to do based on hard evidence. >> all very encouraging, dr. amash swathination. any moment the cdc panel will vote on the johnson & johnson vaccine. cnn's jean casarez joining me from new york. jean, how are officials preparing for more vaccines? >> reporter: they're asking for it. new york needs it, because here are the statistics they've just come out with. 89% of the first doses they have already administered. they don't have that much left at this point. they're trying to get shots in the arm as efficiently and quickly as possible, but the statistics show that 10 million people in new york are eligible for the vaccine now, and they don't have enough doses of the vaccine for 10 million people. so johnson & johnson, a third supplier, can only be welcomed here in new york. i spoke with people as they were coming out of the javits center, because everyone is coming today for their appointment. you have to have that appointment to get your covid vaccine, because there is a question whether there are some people, especially underserved communities, that aren't getting the vaccine, may not want to or be scared or just can't go to get it. i asked them what their friends and family are telling them. >> you have to consult with your primary physician. you have to consult with all your doctors to make sure that you're in the best physical state, and you just have to have faith, you know, and do the right thing. >> i think it's more a question of whether or not it's accessible. what you'll find is -- again, those in my age group will go out and get the vaccine. but if you're in areas where it's not accessible and you happen to not have transportation, you don't want to get on the subway so there's less probability. >> reporter: and governors in some of the states are saying they do expect to get johnson & johnson vaccine by mid-week. fred? >> that's quite extraordinary. jean casarez, thank you so much in a rainy new york city. a political firestorm in new york politics. governor cuomo reportedly facing new allegations of sexual harrassment. so where does the investigation go from here? and later this hour, president trump speaks for the first time since leaving office. find out what he plans to say at a gathering about his successor at cpac in florida. e that will e felt from this street. to this street. to no street. and everywhere in between. all it takes is the slightest push in just the right place and that will be the tipping point that changes everything. ♪ ♪ a lot of people think dealing with copd is and ta walk in the park.ping point that changes everything. if i have something to help me breathe better, everything will be fun and nice. but i still have bad days flare-ups (coughs), which can permanently damage my lungs. my lungs need protection against flare-ups. so it's time to get real. because in the real world our lungs deserves the real protection of breztri. breztri gives you better breathing symptom improvement, and flare-up protection. it's the first and only copd medicine proven to reduce flare-ups by 52% breztri won't replace a rescue inhaler for sudden breathing problems. it is not for asthma. tell your doctor if you have a heart condition or high blood pressure before taking it. don't take breztri more than prescribed. breztri may increase your risk of thrush, pneumonia, and osteoporosis. call your doctor if worsened breathing, chest pain, mouth or tongue swelling, problems urinating, vision changes, or eye pain occur. for real protection ask your doctor about breztri. this breaking news right now, a panel of cdc advisers have just officially voted to recommend the johnson & johnson vaccine for people in the u.s. over the age of 18. cdc director dr. rochelle walensky is expected to accept the recommendations and issue a final sign-off by the end of the day day. the johnson & johnson vaccine will be the third authorized vaccine here in the u.s. it only requires one dose and can be stored in regular refrigeration. officials say nearly 4 million doses will be available right away. the "new york times" is reporting a second former aide to new york governor andrew cuomo has come forward accusing him of sexual harrassment. the former aide, charlotte bennett, tells the "times" the alleged conversations happened late last spring during the height of the state's fight against coronavirus. and now there is a growing fight over who should investigate the harassment allegations against governor cuomo. cnn's brynn gingras is following the story for us and joins us right now. brynn, what more do we know about these allegations, the status of the investigation, how the governor is responding? >> reporter: you mentioned former aide charlotte bennett. she's 25 years old. she spoke to the "new york times" and she said she had a number of interactions with the governor during her time in the administration starting last spring, as you mentioned, feeling like at times he was her mentor initially, but that changed. she particularly, to the "times," recalled one incident from last june telling the newspaper she was alone with cuomo in his office and he asked her a number of personal questions, like if she had ever been with an older man, and she said he said he was open to relationships with women in their 20s. she interpreted those questions as clear overtures to a sexual relationship and she was also discomforted because of previous issues of sexual harrassment. he wrote, ms. bennett was a hardworking and valued member of our team during covid. she has every right to speak out. when he she came to me and opened up about being a sexual assault survivor and how it impacted her and her ongoing efforts to create an organization that empowered her voice to help other survivors, i tried to be supportive and helpful. ms. bennett has every right. i believe the best way to get to the truth is a full investigation. i ask people to wait for their views until we have a full investigative report. remember earlier in the week, former aide lindsey boylan said cuomo gave her an unwanted kiss on her lips when she worked there in 2018. cuomo denied that and lindsey bo boylan never came forward. he has been taking a lot of criticism about nursing home death data during the pandemic. so now he'll be facing two different investigations, one on harassment allegations and one in the early stages by the fbi in regards to the nursing home data, but it's unclear at this point that the probe is on the governor or members of administration, but again, fred, a lot going on there. >> right. so, brynn, when do we know about the status of the investigation into these accusations? >> reporter: yeah, so fred, the governor's office has asked the attorney general and the chief judge in the highest state to have an independent investigation, but we're already hearing from sources and lawmakers that this is not enough. here's the issue. they say what the governor's office is proposing doesn't allow subpoena power for the investigation, meaning they wouldn't be able to compel witnesses, they may not get their hands on certain data, so they're calling for cuomo to make a referral to the a.g.'s office which would grant those powers. the a.g. has been very vocal about this already, too, saying she doesn't accept what the governor is proposing and that her office can completely handle this investigation on its own, it just needs that referral from the governor's office. this certainly is going to be shaking out in the next couple days, fred. >> all right, brynn gingras, thank you so much for that. still to come, two weeks without running water to bathe or drink or cook. frustrations growing for some residents of jackson, mississippi after a devastating winter storm. it's only human to care for those we love. and also help light their way. ♪ it's why last year chevron invested billions of dollars to bring affordable, reliable, ever cleaner energy to america. ♪ ♪ jackson hewitt knows times have changed... ...both how and where you work. and your taxes could have changed too. let our tax pros work for you and fight for every dollar you deserve. ♪ hey now, you're an all-star, get your game on, go play ♪ ♪ hey now, you're a rock star, get the show on, get paid ♪ ♪ and all that glitters is gold ♪ get 5 boneless wings for $1 with any handcrafted burger. only at applebee's. your grooming business is booming. you need to hire. i need indeed. indeed you do. the moment you sponsor a job on indeed you get a shortlist of quality candidates from a resume data base. claim your seventy-five-dollar credit when you post your first job at indeed.com/groomer (vo) welcome to the next, next level. this phone paired with 5g ultra wideband-- wow! 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>> service has been restored to central power and water, but a lot of folks are still without water service because there is breakage in lines at facilities, pumps havthat have not been tur back on line, a lot of repairs being done now. we have a lot of water distribution sites around town, we have door-to-door distribution of water to folks who have been without for a long time. homebound seniors, disabled, et cetera, so it is still an all hands on deck to recover from this storm. and see mayor bumbe, your residents didn't have water for days. how are you doing? >> our situation is similar to our friends in san antonio. our systems were not meant to sustain the extreme water deference we faced in several storms back to back. it reduced the pressure being released to the system, and so those who were the furthest away from the plant sustained without water for the longest period of time. so we are doing distribution of both potable and nonpotable water throughout the community and that continues. >> who are the most vulnerable, mayor lumumba, in your area. >> of course those seniors are most vulnerable, suffer from mobility issues. many have health concerns and need water. obviously we're concerned about the sanitary issues, and we have to remember we are still in the midst of a pandemic where we are encouraging people to wash their hands frequently, to do all of the measures that we have recited over time, time and time again, and that becomes increasingly difficult without access to water. so frustrations are high. people don't understand how systems can fail in this way, and they don't necessarily understand just how aged our infrastructure is and also that we are experiencing more extreme weather conditions in recent years. >> you know, frustrations are high not just because of the deficit of these basic needs like water, but mayor nuremburg, people are really concerned about money and being hit with exorbitant bills. you told cnn earlier that there would be hell to pay if individual residents are forced to pay for sky high electricity bills. so what are you hearing about the kind of relief that might be coming the way of residents? we talked to one last week who said he might have like a $7,000 electricity bill. what are residents being told, and who is going to pay for this stuff? >> well, there is a state investigation underway right now, and what i'll tell you, fredricka, is that this was an outrageous market collapse of the deregulated energy system here in texas. and if allowed to go forward without any intervention would probably be the most massive redistribution of wealth from citizens to a very few profiteers that we've ever seen. we are asking for intervention. we are going to exhaust every avenue, including legal, to help the raped payers who are being asked to burden the cost. >> so, mayor, how do you prepare for the next possible storm? >> we have to do what promises were made and broken last time, which is we have to have weatherization of the entire texas energy grid. the public utility commission has the authority to regulate that and to require those kinds of measures to be put in place so we could have been ready. they did not do that. they also, at the same time, allowed for this just obscene profiteering to happen as consumers, the market, was forced to buy gas at just insane costs, so there is a huge amount of work to be done, but to your point, infrastructure preparation for what we know is the reality of the changing climate has to be addressed immediately. >> and, mayor lumumba, are you getting what you need from washington? >> we certainly need more support. it's long overdue for a federal package that addresses the issues cities are facing today. not only do we have aged infrastructure, but we're experiencing hotter summers and more rain than has historically been the case. so communities need the support from washington. our annual budgets, our city budgets are not sufficient to address the need. in jackson alone, we know that we have nearly a $2 billion infrastructure challenge, so we have to really demonstrate in the things that we fund what our values are as a nation, and we have found in safe drinking water for our residents, we must support that effort. >> mayor nirenberg, are you getting what you need from washington? >> we had approval from fema disaster relief done very soon, so i appreciate the white house response to that. but to mayor lumumba's point, we have to demonstrate the fact that we are not going to leave anyone behind. it is always the most disadvantaged members of our community that are forced to endure infrastructure that stays in disrepair. as a result, they're also in homes and other shelters that are likely to be more impacted by power going out with poor weatherization, et cetera. so we've started our effort locally to set up some funds where people can access immediate relief to get repairs done immediately, but we also are going to need the state and the federal government to put their money where their mouths have been for a while, which is that we need equity in our infrastructure investments. >> mayors ron nirenberg and mayor chokwe lumumba, thank you. we'll be right back. later on this hour, former president donald trump will make his final speech since leaving office. he is the closer for cpac, the florida gathering for conservatives and trump loyalists. despite his election loss and his role in inciting the deadly riot on the u.s. capitol last month, trump remains the gop's biggest star and the face of the republican party. michael warren is covering the cpac conference in orlando, ron brownstein is the senior editor for "the atlantic." greetings to both of you. tell us what we might be hearing from the former president when he takes the stage. >> reporter: fred, we're just minutes away from president trump taking the stage and speaking to the conservative faithful here. our own jim acosta obtained a few excerpts of what the former president intends to say, including a hint at really the big question of this weekend, will donald trump run again for president in 2024? here is some of what we expect him to say. we expect him to say that the work that they are doing is -- excuse me, i stand before you today to declare that the incredible journey we began together four years ago is far from over. he also takes a shot at the man who beat him for re-election in november, joe biden, has had the most disastrous first month of any president in modern history. also hitting on a theme that's been quite common here at cpac, that the republican party is united. the only division is between a handful of washington, d.c. establishment political hacks and everybody else all over the country. finally a sort of message of encouragement to the troops here, the greater the challenge and the tougher the task, the more determined we must be to pull through and win. quite a speech for the attendees here. >> ron, two things here. number one, usually a predecessor kind of goes dark for a while, reflecting on what's next filphilanthropicall et cetera, and there are a small number who are ready to move on from donald trump. here's what bill cassidy said. >> we have to win in two years, we have to win in four years. if we do that, we'll speak volumes to the american people and there is a lot to speak about right now, not by putting one person on the pedestal and make that go a focal point. we have economic policies that were working. if that works, and we can speak those policies to the family, then we will win. but if we idolize one person, we will lose. >> so bie gop lost the house an senate in the white house during trump's presidency, so why is trump still front and center right now? >> because hereconfigured the party at the center of the public coalition. if you look at recent polling, two-thirds of republicans say discrimination against whites is as big of a problem as discrimination against white minorities. two-thirds say christianity is under assault in america, three-fifths are saying immigrants are invading our country, and 55% said the american way of life is disappearing so fast, we may have to use force to save it. this is the party that donald trump has left behind, and that's why i think that for republicans like cassidy or others who are criticizing him, they face the reality that he holds the dominant hand in the party. and, really, the question for the roughly one-fifth or one-quarter of republican voters who are uneasy with the way the party is being redefined, this kind of nationalist, nativist authoritarian, their question is are they remaining to stay in the party in a subordinate role? because right now they have very little chance of overcoming trump's dominance. those are the roles of republicans now, and they are by and large in his mold and comfortable with his direction. >> so, mike, is there a feeling that the gathering here at cpac, is it at all representative of the republican party? are people interested in hearing other conservative voices, or, really, is this all about a pep rally for trump? >> reporter: well, we just got the results of the cpac straw poll which attendees take here. it's not scientific but it can give us a sense of the answer to that question. they were asked whether or not they wanted donald trump or another republican to be the 2024 nominee. when asked with donald trump, trump won 55% of the vote. the closest person behind him was florida senator ron desantis. here in florida he got about 20%, everybody else got in single digits. interestingly enough, they asked the poll question without donald trump. the winner of that was ron desantis as well. we may be seeing florida bias, but dominant here is donald trump. he remains the favorite. everybody here wants him to run. i think 68% in the straw poll said they would like him to run for president in 2024. it's still donald trump's party, fred. >> at any moment i expect trump will be taking to the stage there, but in that excerpt we just heard from his speech, he does say the gop is united except for a handful of what he calls establishment political hacks. perhaps he might be talking about people like gop congresswoman liz cheney who did take a stand this week against trump's role. listen. >> that's up to cpac. i've been clear in my views about president trump and the extent to which following january 6, i don't believe he should be playing a role in the republican party for our country. >> on that high note -- >> a real distinction there. cheney says, no, trump should not be playing a role in cpac and mccarthy saying, yes, he should, so is that representative of what the party is struggling with right now? >> reporter: yes. what the former president is not exactly accurate. it's not just a few elected officials in washington. if you look across all the polling, it's pretty clear that somewhere between a fifth and a quarter of traditional republican voters are uneasy with trump continuing to be the face of the party. they're uneasy with the way republicans have responded and acted since the november election. they are certainly unnerved by the assault on the capitol. they are the ones who face the question, i think, because right now there is no doubt that because of all the things, the way in which he's reconfidgured made it uneasy with the way the country is changing. because of all of that, voters who don't like trump's direction are the minority and they're unlikely to be the majority any time soon. mitch mcconnell waved the white flag of surrender after his very tough speech on trump, saying he would support him if he were the nominee. so the question is not whether the trump side is the dominant hand, the question is what do those other republicans do? right now we're seeing republicans of all spots linking arms to pursue what is possibly the most aggressive wave of voter repression since the arms act in 1975. in practice, they are linking against voting on the covid bill, for example, in the house, and perhaps all of them will in the senate. the core issue is do those republicans who are uneasy with trump's imprint on the party, are they willing to accept a subordinate role in what will remain for quite a few years now a trump-oriented party, even if he himself is not the nominee in 2024? >> those voter suppression efforts particularly in those states where trump and his allies were trying to contest, saying that those votes, which were free and fair, were not valid, and now a new effort to try to change, make it more difficult for voters to vote. a next go-round. michael warren, ron brownstein, appreciate it. next, attacks on asian americans stoking fear and anger across the country. what can be done to fix the problem? the epson ecotank. no more buying cartridges. look at all this ink it comes with. big ink tanks. lots of ink. no more cartridges. incredible amount of ink. the epson ecotank. just fill and chill. ♪ hey now, you're an all-star, get your game on, go play ♪ ♪ hey now, you're a rock star, get the show on, get paid ♪ ♪ and all that glitters is gold ♪ get 5 boneless wings for $1 with any handcrafted burger. if you're 55 and up, t-mobile has plans built just for you. only at applebee's. get 2 unlimited lines for a fixed rate of $70 bucks. with any handcrafted burger. and now get netflix on us. plus, switch and get a free smartphone for each line. when dehydration gets real... ♪ hey! that's mine. i'll buy you a pony. advanced hydration isn't just for kids. pedialyte helps you hydrate during recovery. the new myww+ gives you more of what you need to help you lose weight! more simplicity with the what's in your fridge? 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