the bill that would affect tens of millions of americans. at least a dozen lawmakers that said they could not be at the capitol due to the on going public health emergency oddly enough sought refuge in the same place, orlando, florida where they're taking part in cpac and the idea of the respect they have down there for the on going public health emergency, listen to this. >> everyone, when you're in the ballroom, when you're seated, you should still be wearing a mask so if everybody can go ahead, work on that. i know. i know it's not the most fun. >> you have the right -- >> one of the cpac refugees is freshman north carolina congressman madison. with proxy voting democrats were asking for because the pandemic who was a private citizen said leaders show up. they won't be voting in person for that we go to ryan nobles. >> anderson, it looks that this bill will pass. it could be late tonight into early tomorrow morning but democrats are confident that they have the votes. they would need 217 votes to pass. it means they could only lose three democrats if it were to cross the finish line. there is a chance maybe one, maybe two democrats do not vote in favor of the package and maybe one republican crosses over and votes with the democrats but right now, democrats and pressing a lot of confidence particularly because the minimum wage hike is part of this house version. when it comes to the senate side, it's a different story. for now, it's part of it so democrats are confident they will pass that legislation later tonight. >> abby, if the minimum wage increases, how much easier is it for the white house to get this bill passed? >> significantly easier. this is a bigger sticking point from a procedural perspective but also for some of the moderates who just maybe agree with increasing the minimum wage but perhaps don't agree with doing it in the timeline that was included in the bill and also perhaps at the rate that was included in the bill. so this takes that issue off the table and makes it much harder for them to push back on this and makes it easier for the biden administration to say all the rest of the stuff in here is necessary for the economy right now and i think that that's really kind of where the biden administration hoped to be at the end of the day. >> ryan, there is talk from some democrats about vice president harris and her capacity as president in the senate and over ruling the paramen tar yin. omar said the parma tar yin should be fired. is any of that realistic at all? >> well, anderson, one thing you'll note about the members of congress who are making that suggestion is they are all members of congress who have absolutely no power when it comes to making that decision. it comes from the house side and progressives. senators who would be tasked with making a decision as bold as something like firing a parala men tar yin or over ruling her said the exact of si -- of side. the white house does not want to step outside the current rules of the senate and the most progressive senators, i know you'll have senator bernie sanders on later. he has not suggested they should take the step of firing her. that seems like an unlikely course of action right now. it is good messaging for progressives in the house that want to show they are very serious about pasting a minimum wage. but in reality, it is not going to happen. >> and abby, as we mentioned, you know, cpac is going on. you have republican lawmakers saying they couldn't vote in person because of the on going public health emergency and now they're there at cpac. is there any reason to think that gop leadership will be upset by that at all? >> no, i don't think so at all. i mean, look, the priority for the republican party and republican leadership especially in the house is to show to donald trump and that's what they are at cpac doing now. beyond that, they have shown very little interest in the bill in general. republicans are expecting to have pretty much unanimity in this bill so they are trying to vote no and move on and i don't think they will care one way or another. it is embarrassing, though, in part because i think one of the messaging things for republican -- for democrats will be that republicans didn't care enough to show up on this issue one way or another on something you might december agree with the bill but i think everyone can agree on that. >> where does the battle over the minimum wage increase go from here? >> great question, anderson. something we pressed speaker nancy pelosi about this afternoon. the reality is in order for it to pass as a stand alone bill here on the senate side of the capitol, especially after the r50 ruling for the senate paramen tar yin, it needs 60 votes and republicans would certainly put up a filibuster at any attempt at a $15 minimum wage. the question becomes what avenue do you have to pass something like a minimum wage increase. there is the possibility some of the more moderate senators will offer a proposal with a slightly lower increase to the minimum $ hour minimum wage increase and perhaps you can get ten republicans but those are preliminary discussions. perhaps another reconciliation package comes through later in the year they can attach it to that. they run into the same problems with the parlamintarian. this is something they have gone to voters and supporters and said they would push and accomplish. that is both the white house and them on the congressional side and right now they don't have an avenue to get there. >> thanks very much. joining us now, the independent senator from vermont, bernie sanders, chairman sanders, what happens with the $15 minimum wage now? the white house made it clear they will not push to overrule the parala men tar yin. where does it go from here? >> walmart is owned by the wealthiest family in this country worth 200 billion and starting off workers at $11 an hour. mcdonald's, burger king, large corporations are doing the same thing. we think through a tax provision which says if you're not paying your worker as living wage of $15 an hour, you're going to have to pay more in taxes. we think that is an approach. it is not the ideal approach but an approach that will raise minimum wage for the millions of workers. look, at the end of the day, anderson, what is so upsetting about the parliamentarians decision, you have 60% out american people want to raise that minimum wage. the house already passed that legislation. president wants it. we have the votes in the senate. yet, an unelected staffer if you like of the senate decides that 30 million people cannot get a wage increase, and that deals with the undemocratic rules of the senate. it's another issue. it's something that we have to deal with. >> yeah, to your point, cnn reported the senate majority leader schumer would penalize large corporations and you floated that yesterday. i know senators joe mansion, kirsten cinema indicated they would not vote for a covid bill that would increase. >> i don't think that's quite accurate, anderson. it's complicated. it deals with democratic politics. in my view at the end of the day, the question is will every democrat support the president? will every democrat vote for a $1.9 trillion bill that provides $1400 to every working class person and their children which greatly expands health care and cuts childhood poverty by 50%, which opens up summer programs for kids all over this country, which provides aid for cities and state across america. i think every democrat will vote the right way and the vice president will give us the vote we need. >> how do you pick which corporations would be penalized? >> you know, we're working out the details but you have a situation going back to walmart as i think the poster child. this is a family that is incredibly wealthy. one of their owners spends zillions of dollars on antique cars and they have mansions and art collections but somehow or another they can't pay the starting wage at more than 1 1 an hour. same thing for mcdonald's and burger king and dollar general. there is a way to do it. to be honest with you, i would prefer to have a simple minimum wage of $15 over a four-year period. that's the easy way. with that set back yesterday, we have to figure out another way to raise wages because in my view, when we talk about the economy, anderson, i would say probably the most distressing aspect of where we are today is that half of our people, half of our people are living paycheck to paycheck. their car breaks down, they're in serious financial trouble. millions of people are working for starvation wages. minimum wage today nationally is $7.25 an hour and to my mind, people can disagree with me if they want, that is a starvation wage. hasn't been raised by congress since 2007. we got to take care of low income workers in this country. the right thing to do. >> you said there is no way to stand alone bill on a $15 an hour bill would pass and the only way to get it done is end the filibuster meaning you only need a simple majority 51 votes to get passed. if reconciliation is a dead end, should democrats be pushing to end the filibuster? 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[ cheers ] >> i heard someone earlier phrase it a little bit better, tpac. >> get it? do do donnie junior might be right about this one. probably is. senator cruz was happy to second the notion but not before dumping on texas constituents that froze to death that other time he fled the state. >> i got to say orlando is awesome. it's not as nice as cancun. but it's nice. >> these kids today with their jokes. so with that as the opener, he got straight to the bottom line and kissed it. >> let me tell you this right now, donald j. trump ain't going anywhere. [ cheers ] >> and the republican party is not the party just of the country clubs. >> not just the party of country clubs. an odd thing to say about a man who owns a string of country clubs and these days is living in one. never mind. he's as right as dj tj who the party belongs to. the conference schedule speaks to that pushing the election lie. such as senator cruz who tried to overturn the electoral vote and josh hawley of course did the same after the mob he raised a fist in solidarity to after the siege out capitol. he objected that evening to the electoral count and mischaracterized it today in orlando. >> i stood up, and i said, i said, we ought to have a debate about it. >> he stood up and objected to the certified electors of pennsylvania and arizona based on false and debunked narratives, lies to be precise which senator halley cruz made into their religion complete with that golden idle. jim acosta attended the conference and joins us now. jim, besides getting yelled at, what are you hearing from cpac leaders how it's going so far? >> reporter: anderson, i felt like a dentist today because i was pulling teeth trying to get cpac leaders and attendees to admit to the fact that the president, former president donald trump did not win the 2020 election. and to admit he had anything to do with the violent insurrection at the capitol on january 6th. you talked to people like matt who runs this conference. you talk to the regular run of the mill attendee. they refuse to admit to any of these things. take for example a bit of this exchange i had with matt earlier today just refusing to concede this issue that donald trump continues to lie about the election in 2020. here is how it went down. >> are you concerned about having the president back here at cpac where he's going to continue to say that the election was stolen from him when that just isn't true? >> are there any illegal ballots cast in that election? >> i suppose there might have been. >> how many? >> you said there was illegal in the last eviction. let me finish. did you sit down with a team in nevada or georgia or these states and ever go through the binders of information that good patriotic americans came up with? >> not enough to overturn the results of the election. >> how can you know that if you don't know the number? are you that good at math? >> how is there no way that is physically possible? >> and so, it continued like that, anderson. i tried to ask did donald trump have anything to do with the violence at the capitol? he refused to concede that, as well. anderson, as we talked to matt schlapp, there were donald trump supporters getting irate trying to give us hell with questions about all sorts of different things and their complaints about cancel culture at this cpac, anderson, it seemed like they wanted to cancel us and not let us do our jobs here. >> so the former president is going to speak sunday. any -- is there a sense of what -- i mean, we all know what he says over and over again so i assume it will be the same thing he would normally say. >> reporter: that's right. obviously, he's going to rip into joe biden. they see this as a coming out party for the former president. he's obviously going to tease this crowd with the idea that he may run for election in 2024. he is going to ging to pedal the the election was stolen from him, which we know isn't the case. anderson, it's once again going to be a strange through the looking glass type of moment for this country because here you have a former president typically as you know, anderson, former presidents when they lose elections, they usually retire from the scene. they go off to california or, you know, florida wherever and retire and enjoy the post presidency. donald trump is not going to do this. he is fixated on two things, revision and revenge, revision that he wants to put across to supporters out there this notion that not only did he win the election and that this election was stolen from him -- from joe biden but that somehow he had nothing to do with the violence at the capitol on january 6th, which is just a lie. just another one of his lies. and anderson, you know, for all the talk of cancel culture, it was sort of like cult culture is what we observed. they literally rolled in a golden statute of donald trump at this cpac conference. it's bizarre to see the idolizing of this former president and the fashion that we're seeing it but that is today's republican party and donald trump is the head of that f party until somebody pulls it from him. >> it's interesting to hear donnie trump junior talk about it and echoing what he said january 6th to that crowd in washington that morning where he said that this was -- this is trump's party and that anybody who especially doesn't bow to trump, that they're going to be primariediy and go after him. >> reporter: that's right. and the former president announced he's going to support a republican candidate in ohio who is primarying a republican house member who voted to impeach the then president at the time. anderson, i mean, this is, you know, this is a party that is almost trying to ride on the back of the insurrection to 2024. we saw josh hawley today defending his attempt to overturn the election, defending his decision to side with the house members that wanted to overturn the results of the election and got a standing ovation from the crowd at cpac. it is an alarming sight to see that there is just no sense of remorse, no sense othat anybody is sorry outside this trump movement, this trump base about anything that took place on january 6th and that people died and when i tried to talk to matt schlab about this, he'll say again and again donald trump had nothing to do with it despite we all watched that unfold on television. >> busy trying to rewrite history. jim acosta, appreciate it. thank you. perspective from amanda carpenter and scott jennings, clo clo >> this is trump's party. the coverage of cpac feels like 2016 where everyone is looking at the panels and looking at the outrageous things people are saying and what is trump going to say next? it's different. it's different for why jim explained. it's different because of the insurrection. i watch what is happening and it's just really hard to come to terms with and i've talked with many republicans who kept going along with trump-ism until the end because after he lost in november, they thought this will resolve itself and go away. yeah, he's going to fight it and say stupid stuff but there will be a chance to reset after the certification on january 6th. but the insurrection changed all that. it has changed everything for the republican party because looking at what is happening at the conference, people like josh hawley and ted cruz are essentially campaigning on it and they know that it's trump's republican party but they're hoping for second place on that poll fin anisher and they do th ballots and who can be a good 2024 contender. this is a party that is okay with an insurrection. mitch mcconnell said yesterday sure. if trump is the 2024 nominee, i'll support him. so people republicans of good conscience sha can't go with this have to consider other options. it may be working with republicans more or backing liz cheney and make sure she has a voice and not run out of the party for daring to speak her mind because what we're doing now is not working. look at cpac. >> scott, i remember you said not long ago on this program the republican party needed to get unified and focused and dispatch with the crazy. it seems like they're at least right now leaning into the cr crazy. >> yeah, you can see how in influential i am on these panels. i don't care for what i've seen out of some of the speeches and i don't care for the fact -- for most of my professional career, amanda as well, republicans have been known as the conservative party. our party had a platform, which i didn't bother to write last year. i'm not sure what formulations were known. move the party to the left on a number of things. not everything but a number of things. now we define ourselves by being anti, anti media, anti liberal, anti democrat, even anti republican. i mean, ted cruz is trying to lop off every white collar worker who sits in a cube kill in america. so instead of being anti and trying to shrink this club, and grows the club. it's not working and and fraction and the opposite of what they're doing. >> i mean, scott brought up which is my next question to you, what do republicans stand for now? from cpac we're hearing about president biden gaining ground in swing states on election night and disguising themselves as trump supporters on the day of insurrection. what are republicans? >> i mean, it's supporting trump, right? developing a media network. essentially, the media is the party for them. it's all they pretty much care about. cancelled culture. i mean, josh hawley talks about he can't have his pick of book publishers, right? it's just about getting privilege status in society. i do think there is some i think ls of policy debates down there about anti masking and opening up businesses but the speakers that went down there to talk about that perhaps and should happen about coronavirus spending relief and how we can deliver that aid and instead, people are skipping out votes in the house so that they can go down and be part of trump's republican party instead of doing their job in washington because for a lot of show boaters, it's about making their voice heard and making a statement and not much else. >> scott, i got to ask you about your thoughts on senate minority leader mitch mcconnell. i want to play for the viewers what he said after the former president was acquitted and as amanda mentioned, what he said on fox. >> president trump's actions preceded the riot for a disgraceful, disgraceful election of duty. this was to intensify conspiracy theories orchestrated by the out going president to torch the institutions on the way out. president trump is responsible for everything he did in office as an ordinary citizen. >> if he was the nominee, would you support him? >> the nominee of the party? absolutely. >> so scott, how does one figure that out? of y obviously, mcconnell is known as a tactical master of the senate. what do you think? >> well, i think couple things. number one, i'm just going to put my mcconnell explainer hat on here. he's an outcomes based politician and for most of his career, he has preferred, in fact, all of his career he preferred there to be a republican in the white house to sign legislation republicans in the white house would send over. that's what happened for the four years of trump. that doesn't mean he agreed or get along or play golf together or whatever. it did mean he got outcomes that he preferred. i think amanda made a good point, everything for me changed on january 6th but for mcconnell, despite the rhetoric and back and forth, his entire career is being defined by having republican leadership. the position of the statements is difficult for me to look at to be candid with you but at the same time, i'm looking around the rest of the party wondering who else is trying to enforce a policy outcomes based platform except for mitch mcelcconnell? 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>> i think it's a little battle. i don't know there will be a major hurdle. i think it got to be explained well but what people often see is one number and they pit it against another number and say that is more effective. i'll have that one. we can put the numbers on the screen. it's worth explaining again. it is true that if you look at the johnson & johnson numbers and how they sort of performed around the world, that you do see a lower effeeffective. they paid attention to the number on the right side of the screen. 85% protection against severe disease. no hospitalizations in a month. no deaths at all. that's the sort of peace of mind i think people want from these vaccines. also, anderson, it's a point but the johnson & johnson vaccine was trialed at a different time and in different places as compared to other vaccines. i was trialed against a more serious disease. if you take the moderna and pfizer and trial them in the same place, they would be similar. maybe an optics battle. >> you've been vaccinated but would you get this one if you hadn't? >> i would absolutely get it. that sort of protection and no hospitalizations, no deaths. one thing i will say, i think it may be thoughtful to say you have one-shot vaccine. it doesn't need the super cold storage. maybe the cdc will say, look, for people who are more transient and homeless and less likely to show up for a second shot. for some it's convenience, for some it may be necessity. >> dr. gander, do you see that the same community gets served by the other two approved vaccines or, you know, is sanjay's point it's better to focus on people who may not be able to make it for two shots? >> i think whatever vaccine you can get is the vaccine that is for you. my colleagues on the advisory board to the biden, harris transition team published an op ed specifically on this point about a week or so ago because we anticipated that this was going to be the discussion, you know, is there one of these vaccines that's better than the other and quite frankly, if you look at the outcomes that matter, so preventing hospitalization, preventing death, if you wait 28 days after receiving the johnson & johnson vaccine, that is equivalent 100% protective against hospitalization and death and that's what you get after two doses of pfizer and moderna vaccines and wait a couple weeks after that. this is highly efficient. one dose and i think it will really depend on what different providers are equipped to deliver to different populations. >> you know, sanjay, i heard from the head of the cdc saying the covid case and death count declined which we've been seeing is leveling off at a high number. she said it was a concerning shift. it just, to me, it's such a reminder that every time we see some improvements, it feels like things are loosened and we see another rise in numbers are plateauing. >> yeah, it is a constant roller coaster, you know, for sure, anderson and i think this has made us humble saying look, we're out of woods or definitely continue to go down. i'd like to continue to see these numbers for another week or so to understand if this is really a trend. i think that everyone is talking about the vvariants. when we look at models on variants, they are of concern but the numbers from the sequencing we've seen aren't so hyaigh yet. if that happens, it will be march. the big question, anderson, something we've been talking about for a year now, if the case numbers do go up and they may, will you get a corresponding sort of increase in hospitalizations a few weeks later and corresponding increase in deaths? you're likely to see increase in hospitalizations and deaths but because there is increased immunity there, hopefully, it will be lower number, lower proportion than what we've seen in the past. >> dr. gander, is there a magic formula to determine how quickly people need to get vaccinated to out pace the spread of variants? >> we don't have that formula because we're also dealing with different variants, the one that is spreading most widely accounts for 10% of covid cases in the u.s. right now. that's the u.k. variant and then there are others that are of concern, one out of south africa and brazil that are much more rare right now that may become more common later in the summer, but i think right now the message is we're not out of the woods yet. we just need to be a little more patient for more people to get vaccinated. the vaccine supply is going to open up dramatically come the spring and into the early summer and i think by the midsummer, every american who wants to get vaccinated will be able to. >> all right. dr. selene gander and sanjay, thank you. just ahead, how the big lie about a stolen election you'll hear promoted is filtered down to the former president's most loyal supporters. you'll hear what these voters have to say about the election and qanon when we return. the harry's razor is not the same our razors have 5 german-engineered blades designed to stay sharp so you can enjoy lasting comfort and we never upcharge you for high quality harry's. available in store and at harrys.com thousands of women with metastatic breast cancer, which is breast cancer that has spread to other parts of the body, are living in the moment and taking ibrance. ibrance with an aromatase inhibitor is for postmenopausal women or for men with hr+/her2- metastatic breast cancer, as the first hormonal based therapy. ibrance plus letrozole significantly delayed disease progression versus letrozole, and shrank tumors in over half of patients. patients taking ibrance can develop low white blood cell counts, which may cause serious infections that can lead to death. ibrance may cause severe inflammation of the lungs that can lead to death. tell your doctor right away if you have new or worsening symptoms, including trouble breathing, shortness of breath, cough, or chest pain. before taking ibrance, tell your doctor if you have fever, chills, or other signs of infection, liver or kidney problems, are pregnant, breastfeeding, or plan to become pregnant. common side effects include low red blood cell and low platelet counts, infections, tiredness, nausea, sore mouth, abnormalities in liver blood tests, diarrhea, hair thinning or loss, vomiting, rash, and loss of appetite. be in your moment. ask your doctor about ibrance. for people living with h-i-v, keep being you. and ask your doctor about biktarvy. biktarvy is a complete, one-pill, once-a-day treatment used for h-i-v in certain adults. it's not a cure, but with one small pill, biktarvy fights h-i-v to help you get to and stay undetectable. that's when the amount of virus is so low it cannot be measured by a lab test. research shows people who take h-i-v treatment every day and get to and stay undetectable can no longer transmit h-i-v through sex. serious side effects can occur, including kidney problems and kidney failure. rare, life-threatening side effects include a buildup of lactic acid and liver problems. do not take biktarvy if you take dofetilide or rifampin. tell your doctor about all the medicines and supplements you take, if you are pregnant or breastfeeding, or if you have kidney or liver problems, including hepatitis. if you have hepatitis b, do not stop taking biktarvy without talking to your doctor. common side effects were diarrhea, nausea, and headache. if you're living with hiv, keep loving who you are. and ask your doctor if biktarvy is right for you. covid's still a threat. and on reopening schools, we know what happens when we don't put safety first. ignore proper ventilation or rates of community spread, and the virus worsens. fail to provide masks or class sizes that allow for social distancing, and classrooms close back down. a successful reopening requires real safety and accountability measures. including prioritizing vaccines for educators. parents and educators agree: reopen schools. putting safety first. as we demonstrate earlier in the broadcast, republican leaders and makers at cpac are in with a big lie about the election. is that a reality? that trickle the down to those who support the president and the white house is imminent. we are joined with more on this fantasy. >> reporter: hey, anderson. yes, it is essentially becoming the qanon caucus and seeing it from coast-to-coast. we're seeing it at cpaclorida t and last weekend. we spoke to trump supporters, many of whom believe the conspiracy theory. have a watch. these trump supporters are in denial what happened on january 6th and some believe in qanon. >> who is going to happen at some point there will be arrests and that will include media -- >> they keep saying that. for years and it's not happened. >> it hasn't been years. >> since 2017. it's been years. >> this is 6,000-year-old death cult. you can't take it down that quick. >> i understand you're very passionate trump supporter, right? you surely -- you surely can admit that the people who stormed the capitol were trump supporters. >> no, i definitely cannot. you're talking to the right person. i can show footage that was all the left. the blm dressed up as trump supporters. >> come on. >> it is my hope that president trump comes back as the 19th president of the united states under the 1776 and that he is inaugurated on march 44th. that is my hope. >> some have bought into a new conspiracy theory trump will return as the nineteenth president on march 4th. they misinterpreted an 1871 law and believes grant inaugurated on march 4th, 1869 was america's last legitimate president. it may sound bizarre but online discussion about march 44th is contributing factor about keeping the national guard in washington d.c. will you feel foolish on march 5th when biden is still president? >> trump has a different plan in play. >> reporter: everybody keeps saying trump has a plan. >> he didn't lose the election, sir. trump did not lose the election and that's where we differ. >> reporter: all right. >> and that's where i believe the information that mike lindell has put out. >> reporter: the pillow guy. >> of all the abuse, corruption, stealing -- >> reporter: you trust the man more who sells pillows than the republican officials in georgia? >> oh, absolutely. >> reporter: do you realize that sounds -- >> well, let me just tell you that the people in georgia are sick -- >> reporter: while most of the world looks on in horror at a deadly military coup in myanmar, supporters hope to see happen here in the united states of america. >> this whole thing is biden, he's like a puppet president. the military is in charge. it's going to be like myanmar, what's happening in myanmar. the military is doing their own investigation. at the right time they're going to be restoring the republic with trump as president. >> what's going on in myanmar? the government took over and they're redoing the election. you know why? because the election was stolen from us. >> i never would have believed cnn would give me a chance to speak the truth, what a miracle, praise god. >> reporter: but we're going to say in our report that qanon is a conspiracy theory. >> i know it isn't. i'm not much for believing, i have to know. >> donie, just fascinating, as always. you've been covering qanon and folks who believe in this for at least a year. you were at the capitol on january 6th. is there any change in the tone you're hearing? you and i discussed this, there was some thought about some people leaving qanon once biden was elected because they realized nothing they had been promised has come to pass, but like the lady in the piece, they just change what the prediction is supposed to be. >> reporter: exactly. and when trump doesn't become the 19th president next week, they'll move on to something else as well. i found it very concerning last weekend when we were speaking to these folks, particularly when they were talking about myanmar and celebrating the military coup there and wanting to see that happen here in the u.s. you listen to that, it is obviously a ridiculous and bizarre conspiracy theory but we know from the 6th of january, this isn't all just rhetoric, a lot of it can lead to action. it doesn't seem like it's going away. >> donie o'sullivan, thank you very much. tonight, we have a special on "the cult of qanon." some have lost their faith but some continue to come up with new prophecies about the return of trump. tonight we'll speak to one man who says he isn't a follower of qanon but believes many of their claims. he reached out to me saying i was going to be executed. you dm'd me saying i was going to be executed. >> yes, i wasn't very nice. >> you said you would enjoy it. then you followed up and said, "execution, bang, you're dead." >> yes, i did. that wasn't very polite. you aren't the only one i said that to. and i've since backed off because i can't prove anything but you, anderson. all i know is there's a lot of strange coincidences. i would say anybody, anybody who is high up should be shown to the world, umm, via public execution. hillary should be executed live so all of us can see the end of evil. and like i said, lesser people, we don't necessarily need to see it. so if someone who's not high up in the cabal, we don't need to see it. >> president obama, president biden, you're saying they -- >> george bush. >> george bush, they should all be executed publicly? >> for sure. because they're part of this. >> he later said they should have military tribunals before execution. 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