better ratings. >> you got it. >> so they stick around. >> brian appreciate it don't miss full circle, the digital news show, 6 "p" eastern on cnn.com/watch it there on the cnn app or any time let'shand it over to chris cuomo. >> quick legal point dobbs being gone does nothing to the lawsuit. >> of course. >> his actions condoned by his employer, deferred in their response, that's all you need as the plaintiff in that lawsuit. i hope you have a good weekend, best to you and the boy, anderson. >> thanks, chris. >> i'm chris cuomo welcome to primetime. the news world is buzzing about about president biden. listen. >> should former president trump still receive intelligence briefings? >> i think not. >> why not. >> because of his erratic behavior, unrelated to the insurrection. >> i mean, you've called him an existential threat, dangerous, reckless. >> yeah, i have. and i believe it. >> what's your worst fear if he continues to get these intelligence briefings? >> i'd rather not speculate out loud. i just think there is no need for him to have the intelligence brechgs. what value is giving him an intelligence brechg? what impact does he have other than the fact he might slip and say something. >> this is all over, highly controversial. quick take. by definition, it is not controversial. because by definition controversial means you're contrary to the truth. what did the president say? that is contrary to the truth? if anything, the president was being too nice. what is shocking you? of course trump would leak the information. he leaked to the russians when he was president. we watched it happen in realtime. isn't it odd that biden said he is erratic unrelated to the insurrection. why unrelated? the man showed he was fine with people coming to attack our congress. that's a good reason for him not to get intel briefings. and why are all the righties ringing hands? it's not a controversy. it's a non-troversy. the president doesn't control brevrlgs. intel does. trump has to request one first. what is the chance of that? this man didn't pay attention to the intel briefings when he was president. and now the republicans care if a former president gets them. you didn't care that he didn't care about them. but now you care. just do your damn job and stop stalling. and of course, that's the real story. the clear deterioration of any sense of duty on the right. and what that means to our ability to handle the crises all around us. because clearly that party thinks the longer the pain endures the better it is for them in the mid-terms. trump being in the rear view mirror does not mean our problems are behind us. that guy did not take us down alone. and now we see that. in the newly minted gop q, that gives more support to a lying kook who wishes death on democratic leaders than on their own leadership who had the courage to tell the truth about trump. why give so much attention to the qanon lady? because she is everything wrong with them and our state of play. a qanon kook. and the gop q just fought for her to be a leader in their ranks. it is the most flagrant example of how toxic things have become. 198 in that party backed up this new rising star. last night you heard one of them on this show say she asked for forgiveness. she said she doesn't believe in the toxic hoaxes anymore. today she literally laughed in their faces. tweeting i woke up early in this morning literally laughing, thinking about what a bunch of moran plus 11, knows are her own people are for giving me -- giving someone like me free time, someone like me. she knows she is a kook. she knows she is a hack. she is laughing at the situation, laughing about spreading hoaxes, about 9/11 and about kids dying at schools. it's funny? who is the joke on? that's the question for us. now, you heard her apologize yesterday, right? remember, i know the pain and the fear that dave hogg had and the other kids. remember, that was before the vote. what's the test? what do you do once you get what you want? this is what she did. >> david hogg was an adult when i talked to him. my voice matters too. and so, no, i'm not sorry for telling him he shouldn't push for gun control. >> there it is, you see what i'm saying. this is who she is, literally the lowest common denominator for a party that's all about fishing -- pushing the worst of us. that's why she matters. she is them. she is sorry for pushing hoaxes she said. remember that? she said that before the vote. today, listen. >> i was in the chamber, unlike aoc, representative ocasio-cortes that faked her outrage with another hoax, just another hoax. >> another hoax, you mean like the pentagon not getting hit by a plane, like jews shooting laysers at us from space, like those hoaxes she still hasn't denied? that's why she matters. this is where petting a snake gets you. snake bit. chaos. murdering a capitol police officer. chanting, hang mike pence. breaking into the cradle our democracy with zip ties and weapons looking for men and women giving them cover now. think of how perverse this is. how sick do your intentions have to be to embrace somebody like this? we just learned today. have you heard this, from the acting capitol police chief, 125 officers were assaulted. 125. over 70 were injured while engaged in hand to hand combat with pro-trump insurrectionists. assaulted with chemical irritants, tasters, pipes, bats, bricks and american flag poles. now the party that chooses to ignore that that happened, you have seen no high dungeon. it took a month for biden and the democrats to get the ability to commemorate what happened on january 6th. now the same people embrace a qanon kook, the group all over the worst acts in that insurrection. now what happens, see, it keeps getting worse and you have to identify the pattern because it makes everything make sense. the qanon lady, that will be the end of it. two house republicans today fined $5,000 apiece for refusing to go through security screening to enter the house floor. andrew collide of florida. and louis gomer of texas. talk about elitist, too good for safety in so much for the party of law and order. this is why other members of congress are scared. who won't go through a skaurt security check? what you got to hide? but i'll tell what you, the q you a none kook is right about one thing. and it's this. >> teaching people to hate and addicting them to it is killing our country. >> ironic. right, she would know, right? that's what she was doing. she did it on purpose to bring herself into some kind of notoriety, because there is no difference, right? fame, infamy what's the difference now in politics, as long as you are known, right? and it brought her in the warm boss om of the gop q, the party all about animous. why harp on her, on this? because it's a metaphor for the madness in our midst. why do you think democrats can't get a deal? why was the pandemic relief delayed for seven months when they were in charge of the senate? why didn't they want us to have an homeland security head right away? why does the hate parade over on fox cokes you to hate me and anyone who tests their toxicity, because this is where we are. we were not one trump away from nice, from stable. this didn't happen because of him alone. it is who and what remains. this is the state of play. own it. see it for what it is. it is not an aberration. the question becomes, what will be the gop q's next step to cause chaos. let's tap the brains of john harwood and michael smerconish. brother smirk irk you were a mentor to you. listen to you on the record, follow you on the raid are radio. i lean on you here. i get it good for business. courting angry whites. i can't believe it's about that anymore. this has to be a step farther afield. they didn't need to embrace a qanon kook who went bad on her right-of-way just to have white people vote for them did they. >> i want to tie this to some some other events in the news tonight as i answer the question. lou dobbs getting cancelled. rudy giuliani speaking of radio shows now having an embarrassing disclaimer airing on wabc before you hear his voice. mike lindell's movie with a lengthy disclaimer. the only folks who didn't get the memo are the rnc. and, chris, i do think it's about winning. political parties exist for one purpose. it's to win. kevin mccarthy and company made a calculation this week that they can't cut loose the fringe. they need her in the tent. and they need liz cheney in the tent. and that's the decision they made. and in the short-term it may work in georgia's 14th. but it's going to cost them in suburbia all across the country. >> because it's not a tent it's a zoo, john. i don't care what happens in either of the parties, right for me it's about the culmination of it you're not getting a deal done on relief. you're not getting a deal done on the pandemic or anything. because opposition is the elixir for them. am i wrong? >> well, we are going to get a deal on relief. and it's going to pass the congress. it's just going to be a deal within the democratic party. >> but that's not a deal. >> maybe a couple of republicans -- well if it passes and the checks go out, that's a deal. >> it's a law. i'm saying you won't see the two sides come together. fair point gnaw may be making. is the democrats have some devil in the details on their own side. but know what i'm saying. they are not having bipartisanship. >> look, the republican party is a diseased institution at the moment. they -- you know, you talk about them accommodating marjorie taylor greene. they need people like marjorie taylor greene at the grass roots. and that's going to be reflected in the congress. the energy, the intensity from the most extreme elements of that white working class base are vital for the republican party to compete in elections. yes, as michael said, they drive away college educated whites. but they were quite competitive in in presidential election with joe biden. yes, he lost decisively. but donald trump was within striking distance had a few states tipped the other way. they did well in congressional elections. gaining seats in the house. and they ended up 50/50 in the senate. >> right. >> this is the way the republican party has evolved. >> de. >> in the midst six 80% of republicans were white christianss. now less than half. as move closer to becoming a majority, minority country which will happen in 25 years. who feel desperate they are losing their house. the evangelical, small town and rural, the lesser educated people who think the culture is changing and the economy changing to their disadvantage. >> right. >> their fear and anxiety is what is the pro pelant for the republican coalition right now. marjorie taylor greene is tapping that. donald trump tapped that better than anybody. >> michael, last point to you. the next big moment is the trial that begins next week. the trial of course off the impeachment of the former president. do you think this is an accelerant or do you think both sides just want to get it over with. >> the latter. i think it ends a week from tomorrow. i think that each side is going through the motions that they feel obligated to portray. it will take the oxygen out of the room for another week of the biden administration. and then i think we are truly beyond it. i find the lack of statement of any interview -- i know he is restricted on social media. but the way that president trump is in hiding is really stunning. and i think it's to keep his head down and just get through next week. >> we will see. and we'll do it together. gentlemen, some peace for you this weekend for your families and thank you for helping the audience tonight. john harwood, michael smerconish. now tomorrow marks a month since the attempted coup at the capitol. can you believe it? from all the videos you have seen from that horrific day there is one you may not have, that may have gone without notice. yet, it is the most disturbing of all. michael smerconish just mentioned it. we're going to sift through what plays exactly as propaganda, a pro pellen the for violent. we'll look at it thinly disguised messages to let you see what the risk is of what could be to come. i'm not being playful when i say any released the cracken. these extremist groups have been dprit as for a way into mainstream dialogue. you need to understand this to understand what to watch out for, next. ion dip. i'm going to start the bidding at $5. thank you, sir. $6 over there! going once. going twice. sold! don't get mad get e*trade and get more than just trading investing. banking. guidance. hi, i'm a new customer and get more than just trading and i want your best new smartphone deal. well i'm an existing customer and i'd like your best new smartphone deal. oh do ya? actually it's for both new and existing customers. i feel silly. but i do want the fastest 5g network. oh i want the fastest 5g network. are we actually doing this again? 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listen to my next guest, a scholar of propaganda who has decoded every frame of this video for the website, just security. yale professor jason stanley. good to see you, professor. thank you. >> thank you for having me on the show. >> i see this and i say yeah, it's trump campaign piffle with music underneath. you see something else. how? >> well, the video opens with a hollywood sign omitted in what you showed. then it goes to biden with a vacate expression. and then shifts to senator schumer and pelosi flanked by two jewish congresswoman, nadler representative nadler and representative schiff. the elites have betrayed you, who are they, the people chroming hollywood who is biden controlled by? well he is controlled by chuck schumer. why is chuck schumer wearing a kenta cloth. in anti-semitic ideology juice foment racial division in order to take over. they push in the kkk ideology, they push for racial division. push for a race war in order to divide the country. so the juice are controlling pelosi. the jews are the elites that have betrade you. how? they betrayed you into wars. they betrayed the white working class into poverty. and who is the representative who is going to save you from the elites, the ones mo control hollywood, the chuck schumers? donald trump. >> how can you know this is their intention and not just something you are describing? >> the way politics works is you can never know. there is always plausible deniability. but hollywood in anti-semitic ideology we've got hollywood is controlled by the jews, chuck schumer wearing a kenta cloth. this is deeply embedded in our social memory. >> you think who ever did this knew what they were doing. and of course it winds up being no coincidence that they gave someone a pass who believes in an organize that says jews shoot lays frers outer space to start wivlds. let's play the next part which you believe is a thoughtful evolution of argument, and really chaos. listen to the next piece of th e >>. ♪ ♪ >> what do you see? >> we see the years of rowe before coronavirus, when trump ruled, when trump shoved the elites aside and was the deer leader of the country. he restored our great military, the sign of all authoritiarians. he restored our manufacturing secret. we saw before a dekrep it pickup truck. now we see new pickup trucks we see people weeping at joy and add las vegas. we don't see democracy we see a lettered. we don't see the republican party, one single leader ruling over a happy nation. we see no racial division. we see a black man and white man joined together in adulation. >> now is that different thn any other kpoin video. >> there is no symbol of democracy. as i talk about in the piece i don't want to compare trump to hit letter. it's facist propaganda we are looking at. >> i hear you on that. then there comes to the key element of what they want to do with this video which makes the timing disturbing in hindsight. because this was what a lot of that group that went to the capitol was watching before they went. let's watch the next ♪ ♪ >> it's interesting when i watch this, i saw that biden smile. and i said that's weird. they've got a nice shot of joe biden in there. you say no, not a nice shot. by design, why? >> it's betrayal, biden appears in the frame before barr is testifying. there is two things we see. biden is obviously smirking there. and he said -- what's being suggested is that the -- the court attack on trump is an illegitimate attack on our leader. and then covid, of course, the trumpism, if you look at the far-right website they promote covid denialism. why are the streets empty? why are -- why is everything closed? why is the glory of the trump years shut down? because of an invention, covid. because of treachery, the elites are back. they're betraying us. political violence requires a justification. political violence requires a reason. in video is giving a reason. it's saying that we have been betrayed by the elites. covid was a sham. covid has destroyed our economy as a way of tearing us apart. and we need to restore our leader in order to restore the glory of trumpism. >> you know, ordinarily when i would have the conversations over the years with people in your position, or sociologistises. i would say, all right, all right, i think you're being hyperbolic. the scary thing about this is we know what happened after they saw this video. it is frightening aligned with your representation of the same. thank you for this. and we have to be ware of what the messages can do in resonance and that's what we watch for next. professor stanley. appreciate you. let's start with pandemic and start differently. there is good news about what's happening in this country with coronavirus. i just don't know that it will continue. there is good news about the vaccine. okay? 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kind of interchangeably they're not the same thing. when a virus becomes stronger then it's a new strain. okay? so it's a meaningful distinction. and two of the strains already here appear to be more contagious. with the strain linked to the uk on track to become the predominant one next month. okay when you hear strain your ears should peak up a bit more. the only way you get to the finish line is taking big steps. that's why yankee stadium becomes a mass vaccination sites and the nfl committing to using every statement. get people in keep them safe. get them out. vaccinated. there is talk about treating this like a war. but it's taken more than a year. to be honest it's all talk no walk. the last administration didn't even plan for its own success in getting the vaccine they didn't plan to administer it. now you're going to have a thousand troops to help fema. the goal is to ramp up to another 450,000 vaccines a day. that would be on top of the 1.3 million shots that we're up to every day. some places are still doing better than others. west virginia wsh 85% of the doses they've done have gone into arms. that's good. this isn't just about finishing at the top of the class. the numbers have real impact on lives in west virginia. we're talking about 40 to 45% fewer funerals. thank god for that. half as many people needing to go to the hospital. thank god for that. it all works hand in hand. west virginia, serious about maning masks still. meanwhile, you got iowa, the governor just said that they are lifting all mandates on masks. all mandates on crowd size and other public health measures. why? their positivity rate is three times the national average. their vaccination rate is 47th in the country. do you know what that is? it's poison thinking in a time of a pandemic. an extension of the gopq. this isn't about party. both governors have an r next to their name. west virginia and iowa. but it's telling that the one thing that you hear from both of them, they need more supplies. listen. >> we need vaccines and we're trying. we're writing letters and our congressman are pushing and trying to help. other than me running up there and sitting on somebody, you know, i -- we are doing everything. it's coming from all fronts. >> join q aton that may get the party behind you. the president biden is now using the defense production act to try to boost production with pfizer. okay? but a vaccine isn't the only option. that's why he is also talking about increasing at-home tests and more masks. let's bring in the chief doctor, sanjay gupta to discuss the need. start with the good news how do you see it. >> cases are down 15% from last week. hospitalizations down 12%. those are good numbers. death rate still plateaued but as you know, chris, that's the last indicator. the vaccine news is good, chris. as you point out. all let discussion about the sfrans as you correctly define them, there is evidence the vaccines work for what is most important in the strains, which is to decrease hospitalizations, nearly eliminate deaths. i mean, you know, 75,000 people in the clinical trials, chris, who received a vaccine and in places like south africa and brazil and the uk where the strains have been circulating some time, they worked well in those places as well. so, you know, that's the good news. how much more of this -- because they are more transmissible how much of a problem is that going forward? how many more people would become infected that wouldn't have over the next months before the vaccine race can be -- before the vaccines can catch up? that's the real concern. >> the iowa mentality is the problem. the word of the vaccine as and numbers go the right way mean mavericks don't matter anymore. what's the converse? >> well, the idea that you would do that at this point, you know, that you would start -- because, we're the home run touchdown society, the vaccines are in sight and they are amazing. no question. but this is not the time to lift the base being health measures. you know, chris, that's the thing that struck me throughout this entire pandemic. i hold up the masks n 95, kn 95 here. got the surgical masks here. whatever it is if you wear one of these, besides a vaccine it's like bubbling yourself, right. you do this when you go into hybrid situations that makes a huge difference. you got the states still so many months in the pandemic, despite the evidence, you see -- you see states that have maverick mandates reduce growth rate of hospitalizations, not just the number of hospitalizations they take the fuel out of the fire of the inertia of hospitalizations. and it happens fast. 5.5% drop within a couple of weeks. that makes a big difference. it's really frustrating and, you know, frankly it really disheartening to see the measures lifted. because people will unnecessarily get sick. and so close really in the scheme of things to the finish line. >> so starting next week the time is now for me in terms of accountability for the new administration. what do they know about their inventory and their supply in when are they getting more masks out there. what is the timing on these things? it's time for action. they've had time to ramp up and plan. now we have to push as long as it doesn't have do with congress because we know that's going anywhere with the impeachment trial. the friday night surprise. keep sharp building a better brain at any age. now, in book was suggested to me. i won't say by who -- as something i need. you trying to tell me something, gupta? >> no, chris, it's just because i love you like a brother. no, seriously, come on, you know that. i spent a lot of time on this book. and, you know, aim a neuroscientist, neurosurgeon. and i was hearing from people working in the field for some time that at any age in your life you could continue to build new brain cells. i found that simple statement to be deeply inspiring. i used to think as a baby you can make new brain cells maybe in response to a brain injury like a stroke or traumatic brain injury you can make new cells. the idea that your brain can get sharper throughout your life, a, that's inspiring. b, how do you do it? that's what the book is really about. and if it was me who suggested this book to you -- which i think that's what you are suggesting, it's purelily out of love. you got a sharp brain, chris. keep it that way. >> i'm just saying i got a phone call this morning, you really need this. i'll tell but it on the show. i shouldn't have left it to live tvrgs to find it out. give me a little taste what people will understand about the idea that you get older, your brain declines and that's how it is. why does it not have to be that way? >> well, so, i was thinking about this the other day. our brains are like how we are living our covid life right now. we use all of our brains. but right now yat days, you drive to the studio, the grocery store. in the brain the metaphor would be we use 10 to 20% of our brain, 80 to 90% of of the time. if you use other parts of your brain, you start to build cognitive resill yns, when you do that it's like building new roads in your brain you can travel on. you access different parts of your brain. which helps you now. you may connect patterns you wouldn't otherwise see. but more importantly the roads you got so used to travel in your brain, if one becomes blocked for some reason pb am lloyd block, tangles. if you have no other way to get through the different destinations in your brain, you're having cognitive decline, memory loss. my point is this. if you -- if you can build up that reserve in your brain now, it helps you now. it's a fun thing to do. but it can protect you later in life. >> is it something you can do later in life? can you do it later in life? start at any time. >> yeah. >> all right. >> you can build the new brain cells at any point. if the roads are blocked you have other roads to choose from. you're not sfeelg the symptoms. that's the key. there is 47 million people in the country if you scan their brains they might have some evidence of amyloid plaque. what can we learn from them. >> here is is the book. keep sharp, building a better brain at any age. i'm buying one of these for all the senior members of my family. and evidently i need two. sanjay, beautiful work. i love you are thinking about us and how to make us better even when you're not on the job. good luck with the book. eileen talking about it. god bless you, brother. >> thank you, love you take care. >> gumt thea thinks i'm stupid. and he is not wrong. how do we get out of the economic hole caused by the pandemic? will biden's covid relief bill be the trick? plus what did gamestop mean. >> what does it mean that lou dobbs got taken off the air at fox and there is the disclaimer before the rudy giuliani radio show? 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he said tonight, i don't think the $15 minimum wage is going to plak it. that sounds right within his own caucus even. is he doing the right things? what else needs to be done? >> no he is taking the right steps, particularly with stimulus. in my mind interest rates are 1%. can we earn more than 1% by investing in the people of the united states of america? and the answer is yes. i think we'll get an amazing return and by investing -- adding the $1,400, seeing where that takes us. by the way, the first stimulus -- the second half stimulus all improved the economy. let's not wres with it let's keep on doing it and see what happens next. >> and to the people who say no, no that's not real economics you are giving them money shouldn't do it. >> they're wrong rb, right, the proof is in the pudding when we got the first stimulus back in april, may, whenever it was we saw growth in the economy. real growth in the economy and it helped turn it around. i think the challenge is people are dog mattic on economics but this is working. >> gamestop what does it mean in terms of investing culture. >> two things, in terms of investing culture, all of wall street has had advantage over the little guy. look, the little guy has been diminished in the eyes of every traditional significant investor. they're called minos. but now when they -- when they aggregate and work together even with wallstreetbets. that is new circumstances. it doesn't mean all trades are provrtable. doesn't mean everybody comes out ahead and there are no painful lessons. but if they can aggregate particularly in the counterculture with the cryptocurrency and the people spent the summer learning about tennessee decentralized finance, there is really something here. it's not taking over tomorrow or one year or five years. but i think over the long-term it has a significant impact and benefit the small investor. >> did you hear that fox canceled lou dobbs? there was a disclaim. >> and the guy that put out the propaganda video that was used a at the trump rally, now it comes with a big explanation, a disclaimer before it. do you think there is a culture shift going on? >> i hope so. i really, really hope so. when you hold people accountable for their words by suing them in court, there are consequences. you know, words have consequences. i think these lawsuits filed by dominion are great. my only hope is he doesn't settle, that he takes it all the way to trial and we get to find out why what happened happened and what people were thinking when they were making those proclamation on air that were obviously incorrect. >> you want the discovery process as it's called in litigation. >> yes. >> and how do you square that with what we saw this week in the gop q, as they call it now, embracing someone they know is a co kook, who they know is betraying them? >> you know, politicians have been doing anything to get votes for a long, long time. so it doesn't surprise me at all. it's disappointing, but we'll see what happens, right? hopefully, you know, there is going to be consequences to them and the folks that believe in qanon, as crazy as it will, will lose, right? but it's just really unfortunate. and it's not good for the country at all. >> on your smell test, do you think this summer we're in a better place? >> yes, absolutely, 100%. you know, the vaccinations will never go as fast as everybody wants them to, but we're already starting to see some progress. here in dallas we're seeing the cases having fallen from 3,000 plus a day to under a thousand and continuing to track. we're seeing the reticence to getting the vaccinations declining. i think really things are going in the right direction. i know with the mavericks, we're talking having first responders and health care workers who have been vaccinated in, and we'll talk to the city and county about expanding our limited base of fans that we're allowed to have come in. so hopefully that people will record we'll be able to have group outings again the more people that get vaccinated and they'll see that as a reward. >> mark cuban, let's end it on the optimism. i appreciate you, brother. i know you don't have a lot of time. thanks for spending some of it with us on a friday night. >> it's always a pleasure, chris, thanks for having me on. >> be well and say hi to the family. you just heard this interesting development over at hate tv. i used to call it state tv. but susan, my writer said how can you keep calling it that? they're not in control of the state anymore. fair point. fox just dumped lou dobbs from its lineup. that because he just got sued? that's not going to help them. what does it mean? is there a culture shift? there are a lot of guys more poisonous than him over there. is cancelling the right thing? are we going to see more of it? i have a great guest, brian stelter. nobody knows better. what does this mean? next. ♪ if you have moderate to severe psoriasis... or psoriatic arthritis, little things, can become your big moment. that's why there's otezla. otezla is not an injection or a cream... ...it's a pill that treats differently. for psoriasis, 75% clearer skin is achievable... ...with reduced redness, thickness, and scaliness of plaques. for psoriatic arthritis, ...otezla is proven.... to reduce joint swelling, tenderness, and pain. and the otezla prescribing information has no requirement for routine lab monitoring. don't use if you're allergic to otezla. it may cause severe diarrhea, nausea, or vomiting. otezla is associated with an... increased risk of depression. tell your doctor if you have a history of depression or suicidal thoughts.... ...or if these feelings develop. some people taking otezla reported weight loss. your doctor should monitor your weight and may stop treatment. upper respiratory tract infection and headache may occur. tell your doctor about your medicines and if you're pregnant or planning to be. otezla. show more of you. oh, you think this is just a community center? 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well, the spin from fox is that advertisers didn't like him. he was a pain in the you know what to management, his time was up. but clearly this lawsuit was a big factor, chris. >> if they were going to get rid of people because they won't get advertise owners their show, they have much juicier choices on the mother ship. >> tucker carlson, definitely right. tucker carlson, others are not advertising magnets. but lou dobbs, he in some ways he was the vestige of an earlier era at fox news. he was hired by roger ailes. there are some good excuses for getting rid of him now, but you have to wonder if this is a broader change by the murdochs, trying to appease people and trying to get this lawsuit off their back. as you said earlier, this is not going to change the lawsuit against fox news. >> him not being there anymore is irrelevant because of the behavior that's being sued on happened already, and fox defended. now how do you tie this in with rudy giuliani's radio show on wabc now having a disclaimer before it? and that guylynn del who put out the trump video has a long disclaimer before the video. what do you make of these developments? >> every source i've talked to, i've been reinterviewing people for the next edition of my book. everybody says the same thing. they are desperate to win their audience back. their viewers are mad, mad that trump lost. they believe that trump actually won the election, and producers at fox are desperate to win their audience back. that's what's going on at newsmax. that's what's going on at one america news. so these shows are trying to feed this fantasy story that trump also won, but they're also trying to avoid being sued, trying to avoid the scrutiny and embarrassment. and frankly, chris, it's impossible to do both. it's impossible to spin these lies and avoid being held accountable. we know dominion has sued rudy giuliani. dominion may sue the networks next, and we know they have already sued fox news. there is no way to have it both way, but goodness, they are trying. >> it's not going to help them in terms of the litigable nature of the claim, and it's not going to help them in terms of not having to defend deputy constable because he is going to have an indeem indication claim. competition for that angry white audience. so it will be interesting what happens. brian stelter, this was good. thank you for jumping in here last second to take us through this. appreciate you. good luck with the new edition of the book. can't wait to read it. >> thanks. thank you very much for watching us. you know, i like on a friday to try to pick some spots of the things that shaped the week. the lou dobbs thing just happened. i don't think it's a one off off. i don't think what they're doing over there anymore. but obviously things aren't works in terms of th