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Controversies admitting the School Shootings and 9 11 Terror Attacks are, in fact, real. Also breaking, a lawyer for former President Trump saying he will not testify under oath at his Impeachment Trial on the senate floor next week after a dramatic move by House Democratic Impeachment Managers calling on him to take part in the proceeding. Meanwhile, we just heard President Biden make his first Foreign Policy address since taking office and declaring, im quoting him now, america is back, diplomacy is back as he announced some major Policy Shifts in a rebuke of his predecessor. Lets start our coverage this hour up on capitol hill. Our chief Congressional Correspondent manu raju is joining us right now. Were standing by for an extraordinary vote to begin. Tell our viewers whats going on. House democrats are pushing forward a truly unprecedented measure to strip Marjorie Taylor greene from two of her Committee Assignments punishing her for views that she expressed before she was a member of congress. This will have support from some republicans on the house side but a vast majority of republicans oppose this measure. The Top Republicans in the house are urging the members to vote against this. Even though some Top Senate Republicans are frustrated at the decision by Republican Leaders in the house not to take, punish Marjorie Taylor greene in any way with one the number two republican in the senate, john thune, telling me just earlier, i think we have to be a party of ideas and policies and prince tliples and get Awaym Members Dabbling in conspiracies and mitt romney calling Kevin Mccarthys move to allow her to stay on her committees a mistake. Her Conspiracy Theories caused an uproar. Wild claims like suggesting School Massacres were staged. Even questioning the events of 9 11. Today in the house, a partisan brawl erupted over congresswoman Marjorie Taylor greene who for the first time publicly distanced herself from Fringe Theories she expressed just two years ago. These were words of the past, and these things do not represent me. They do not represent my district. And they do not represent my values. Reporter democrats werent buying it. I think giving congresswoman green a megaphone on a Standing Committee would be a cancer on this entire congress. Reporter the house moving to strip her from her assignments on the education and budget committees. A move that republicans called a damaging precedent. Todays resolution raises serious questions for these institutions. The action the majority is proposing to take today is not only premature, but, in fact, unprecedented in the history of the house. Reporter but democrats said her views are dangerous. With the House Speaker referencing revelations from cnns k file that greene repeatedly indicated support for executing prominent democratic politicians in 2018 and 2019. Today nancy pelosi brushed back a question from cnn about the precedent being set. Are you worried at all about the precedent it would set none, not at all. If any of our members threatened the safety of other members, wed be the first ones to take them off of a committee. Thats it. Reporter today greene took to the house floor to appeal to her colleagues. And insist she is not a conspiracy theorist. I never once said any of the things that i am being accused of today during my campaign. I never said any of these things since i have been elected for congress. Reporter yet, after she was elected, greene defended Qanon Believers in an interview with cnn. Regular American People that just are looking things up on the internet. Reporter during the Campaign Last year, she said this about qanon. You say, quote, q is a patriot. Do you believe that . Is that what you believe . Ive only ever seen patriot imsen ic sentiment coming out of that source and other sources. Reporter on the floor today she said she doesnt believe in the fringe theory. I stumbled across something at the end of some2017 called q. I got very interested in. I posted on facebook, i read about it, talked about it t i asked questions about it. I would ask questions about them and talk about them. And that is absolutely what i regret. Reporter disavowing her past belief of conspiracies. I also want to tell you 9 11 absolutely happened. School shootings are absolutely real. And every child that is lost, those families mourn it. Reporter and, wolf, House Democrats are preparing for another dramatic showdown. This with the former president donald trump, democratic Impeachment Managers preparing for a senate trial next week. Sent a letter to donald trump asking him to come to the senate and testify in his own defense. Saying that they wanted to hear why he disputes key facts in this case. But, wolf, just moments ago, an adviser to donald trump sent a Response Back making it very clear that he would not testify in this case. With his attorneys saying that this is just all a publicity stunt. The question ahead of next week, wolf, will the Democrats Press forward, potentially subpoena the former president . Will that will Senate Democrats vote to subpoena him and what will the president do then . Wolf . Those are good questions. And well find out fairly soon. Thanks very much. Manu. For that. Lets discuss all these late breaking developments. The cnn senior commentator, former Ohio Republican governor, john kasich is with us. Cnn political commentator van jones is with us. And our chief political analyst Gloria Borger is here as well. You know, gloria, were minutes away from this vote. What message will it send if congresswoman greene is, in fact, removed from these committees . Well, she should be removed from these committees. The Republican Party should have done it from the outset. The message that this sends is that the Republican Party and its leadership, Kevin Mccarthy, couldnt not outright divorce itself from the lunacy of Marjorie Taylor greene. Not only the lunacy, but the danger that she represents. And what the leaders should have done right away is said, we cant live with this, you can not be on the education committee, you cannot be on the budget committee. But instead, he abdicated his leadership and now the democrats have said, okay, were going to take her off of the committee. So republicans have to cast a tough vote. Mccarthy says this is an abuse of power. He just said that minutes ago on the floor. But, in fact, what the democrats are doing is what the republicans should have done from the outset and said, you know what, were more interested in policy than in lunacy and we cant live with this. You know, governor kasich, this is about a lot more than one congresswoman and her conspiratorial comments and her lies. Its about what the Republican Party is willing, in fact, to accept. What is the party willing to accept . Because many of them, many of those republican members, gave her a standing ovation behind closed doors. Yeah. Last night. Well, first of all, i would say to gloria that when she said they have a tough vote, to me its not a tough vote. Its a Pretty Simple vote. Well she should be removed from these she should be removed from these committees. I mean, we think in washington about all the issues of tough vote or i need to look strong, or we can win, and it obscures the purpose of being an elected official. For republicans, you know, fortunately, you got mitt romney, you got people in the senate, john thune beginning to speak out against this saying they want to be a party of ideas. In the house, i tell you what i thinks going on. I think theyre trying to play both sides. They dont want to Vaggravate Te people who sort of sign up to qanon and these Conspiracy Theories. They dont want to aggravate them but they also want to win the majority. Its all a fight for power and a powi is er to do what . I wish somebody would ask these folks what exactly is your jaja agenda, what exactly do you want to do about health care, what do you want to do about community and police, what do you want to do about the gap between the rich and poor . I dont want to hear you bashing somebody else. Id like to know what you believe. At least in the senate when they have objected to joe bidens 1. 9 trillion, at least they came up with their own plan. I have no clue what those in the house are doing except theyre hungry to get power. And power, to me, without purpose, is bankrupt. You know, van, this 11thhour speech that this congresswoman gave on the House Floor Today, she had years to walk back these comments. Many of them made 2018, 2019. She never did. She didnt. She couldnt even bring herself today to formally apologize. Asked for forgiveness for the outrageous comments that she made. What does that say to you . Well, i mean, too little too late with regard to her speech. You know, Kevin Mccarthy has a point. This is unprecedented. It does set a, quote unquote, bad precedent. But what precedent do we choose . We now have two precedents we have to choose. Its unprecedented for us to have a violent assault on the capitol and have cheerleaders for it sitting in the building. Its unprecedented for us to have somebody in the building who has winked and nodded at killing people in the building. So thats unprecedented. And then the house stepping guard, it does set a precedent when you do something youve never done. If you dont want this precedent, you have to deal with the first one. So she should have never, never, ever been giving these Committee Assignments. That is his fault. That is on him. And he dared the country to put up with it. And so if he wants to make sure that we dont have to have these kinds of tough votes, and they are tough votes in terms of you dont want the speaker to be able to do the stuff all the time, then he needs to do a better Job Taking Care of this stuff. She should be banished from public life. Kevin mccarthy should be ashamed of himself for having put her in the Committee Assignment in the first place. Gloria, its going to be an awkward vote for a lot of republican representatives coming up fairly soon. You know, as the governor said, it shouldnt be an awkward vote for. For some of them in districts where there may be some supporters of hers, maybe it would be tough, but a good leader would have just done what a leader should do. Which is make a decision and say, you know what, we cant give her these Committee Assignments, or not given them to her in the first place as van was saying. The thing that struck me about her speech today which i found disgraceful is that while she was sort solve trying to apologize, she made herself the victim here. You know, shes the victim of cancel culture. Shes the victim of the media. She said these things. She did these things. Its on tape. It kind of remipdnds me of dona trump who always portrayed himself as a victim, said he never said such things then you go back to the videotape and there he was. She was kind of saying i dont believe that anymore, but, anyway, i never really said that, which she did. She didnt need to she wasnt going to change anybodys mind on the floor today and i think she did a disservice to the House Of Representatives. She harassed the a young teenager yeah. Who was a survivor of the parkland mass shooting. I mean, it was horrible what we saw. I want to bring in norm eisen right now. He served as Impeachment Counsel for the House Democrats during the first trump Impeachment Trial about a year or so ago. Hes also now a cnn legal analyst. Norm, the House Managers, the democrats, theyre requesting that the former president actually testify under oath in this Impeachment Trial. The subject of crossexamination, they say, at the same time. The president s attorney just released a statement saying thats not going to happen. They say this is just a Public Relations stunt on the part of the house Impeachment Managers. What do you make of this . Well, wolf, thanks for having me back. I think it is an important point that the House Managers are making. The president filed an answer on paper this week. He repeated his big lie that the Election Results were suspect. He claimed farcically that his fighting words to his followers, that the Insurrection Tailgate on january 6th, were simply about Election Security in the future when he said if you dont fight for your democracy, youre going to lose it. Told them to march on the capitol. So, if hes going to put these lies on paper, let him show up and subject himself to crossexamination under oath. I think its smart. Now, when he doesnt show, as his lawyers are saying he will not, they can point to the empty chair and say, hey, the president wont stand by his words because they are false. Can they subpoena him . Can they vote on the senate floor to issue a subpoena . They could issue a subpoena for the president. Hell go to court. Hell tie that up in knots. I think theyve made their legal point today, the response by the president s lawyers, that the rules essentially, that the rules of evidence dont apply in an Impeachment Trial, wolf. It was just ridiculous. Under senate rule 7, that we lived under in the last impeachment, all the rules of evidence come in. So i think that theyve put themselves strategically in a good space. It was a surprise. It got peoples attention. Probably not the last surprise were going to see from this very able group of trial lawyers. Yeah, senate trial is supposed to begin next tuesday. All right. Everybody, stand by. Were watching truly Extraordinary Events unfolding right now up on capitol hill. Where lawmakers are about to vote on whether to strip republican representative Marjorie Taylor greene of her Committee Assignments. Were going to talk about that and more. Democratic congressman jason crow, there you see him, hes standing by live. Well discuss when we come back. W smartphone deal. 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Were following multiple breaking stories here in the Situation Room including the House Of Representatives now getting ready to vote on whether to actually remove, remove, republican congresswoman Marjorie Taylor greene from her Committee Assignments. Lets discuss with democratic representative jason crow of colorado. Congressman, thank you so much for joining us. So what message are you and your fellow democrats trying to send with this vote . The question before us, wolf, is will this country allow hateful, violent, rhetoric, incitement of violence, threats against our fellow americans, and members of congress, and engaging in lies and Conspiracy Theories, are we going to allow that to become a part of the mainstream . Because this has to do with Marjorie Taylor greene, but it also has to

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