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Controversies admitting the School Shootings and 9 11 Terror Attacks are, in fact, real. Also breaking, a lawyer for former President Trump saying he will not testify under oath at his Impeachment Trial on the senate floor next week after a dramatic move by House Democratic Impeachment Managers calling on him to take part in the proceeding. Meanwhile, we just heard President Biden make his first Foreign Policy address since taking office and declaring, im quoting him now, america is back, diplomacy is back as he announced some major Policy Shifts in a rebuke of his predecessor. Lets start our coverage this hour up on capitol hill. Our chief Congressional Correspondent manu raju is joining us right now. Were standing by for an extraordinary vote to begin. Tell our viewers whats going on. House democrats are pushing forward a truly unprecedented measure to strip Marjorie Taylor greene from two of her Committee Assignments punishing her for views that she expressed before she was a member of congress. This will have support from some republicans on the house side but a vast majority of republicans oppose this measure. The Top Republicans in the house are urging the members to vote against this. Even though some Top Senate Republicans are frustrated at the decision by Republican Leaders in the house not to take, punish Marjorie Taylor greene in any way with one the number two republican in the senate, john thune, telling me just earlier, i think we have to be a party of ideas and policies and prince tliples and get Awaym Members Dabbling in conspiracies and mitt romney calling Kevin Mccarthys move to allow her to stay on her committees a mistake. Her Conspiracy Theories caused an uproar. Wild claims like suggesting School Massacres were staged. Even questioning the events of 9 11. Today in the house, a partisan brawl erupted over congresswoman Marjorie Taylor greene who for the first time publicly distanced herself from Fringe Theories she expressed just two years ago. These were words of the past, and these things do not represent me. They do not represent my district. And they do not represent my values. Reporter democrats werent buying it. I think giving congresswoman green a megaphone on a Standing Committee would be a cancer on this entire congress. Reporter the house moving to strip her from her assignments on the education and budget committees. A move that republicans called a damaging precedent. Todays resolution raises serious questions for these institutions. The action the majority is proposing to take today is not only premature, but, in fact, unprecedented in the history of the house. Reporter but democrats said her views are dangerous. With the House Speaker referencing revelations from cnns k file that greene repeatedly indicated support for executing prominent democratic politicians in 2018 and 2019. Today nancy pelosi brushed back a question from cnn about the precedent being set. Are you worried at all about the precedent it would set none, not at all. If any of our members threatened the safety of other members, wed be the first ones to take them off of a committee. Thats it. Reporter today greene took to the house floor to appeal to her colleagues. And insist she is not a conspiracy theorist. I never once said any of the things that i am being accused of today during my campaign. I never said any of these things since i have been elected for congress. Reporter yet, after she was elected, greene defended Qanon Believers in an interview with cnn. Regular American People that just are looking things up on the internet. Reporter during the Campaign Last year, she said this about qanon. You say, quote, q is a patriot. Do you believe that . Is that what you believe . Ive only ever seen patriot imsen ic sentiment coming out of that source and other sources. Reporter on the floor today she said she doesnt believe in the fringe theory. I stumbled across something at the end of some2017 called q. I got very interested in. I posted on facebook, i read about it, talked about it t i asked questions about it. I would ask questions about them and talk about them. And that is absolutely what i regret. Reporter disavowing her past belief of conspiracies. I also want to tell you 9 11 absolutely happened. School shootings are absolutely real. And every child that is lost, those families mourn it. Reporter and, wolf, House Democrats are preparing for another dramatic showdown. This with the former president donald trump, democratic Impeachment Managers preparing for a senate trial next week. Sent a letter to donald trump asking him to come to the senate and testify in his own defense. Saying that they wanted to hear why he disputes key facts in this case. But, wolf, just moments ago, an adviser to donald trump sent a Response Back making it very clear that he would not testify in this case. With his attorneys saying that this is just all a publicity stunt. The question ahead of next week, wolf, will the Democrats Press forward, potentially subpoena the former president . Will that will Senate Democrats vote to subpoena him and what will the president do then . Wolf . Those are good questions. And well find out fairly soon. Thanks very much. Manu. For that. Lets discuss all these late breaking developments. The cnn senior commentator, former Ohio Republican governor, john kasich is with us. Cnn political commentator van jones is with us. And our chief political analyst Gloria Borger is here as well. You know, gloria, were minutes away from this vote. What message will it send if congresswoman greene is, in fact, removed from these committees . Well, she should be removed from these committees. The Republican Party should have done it from the outset. The message that this sends is that the Republican Party and its leadership, Kevin Mccarthy, couldnt not outright divorce itself from the lunacy of Marjorie Taylor greene. Not only the lunacy, but the danger that she represents. And what the leaders should have done right away is said, we cant live with this, you can not be on the education committee, you cannot be on the budget committee. But instead, he abdicated his leadership and now the democrats have said, okay, were going to take her off of the committee. So republicans have to cast a tough vote. Mccarthy says this is an abuse of power. He just said that minutes ago on the floor. But, in fact, what the democrats are doing is what the republicans should have done from the outset and said, you know what, were more interested in policy than in lunacy and we cant live with this. You know, governor kasich, this is about a lot more than one congresswoman and her conspiratorial comments and her lies. Its about what the Republican Party is willing, in fact, to accept. What is the party willing to accept . Because many of them, many of those republican members, gave her a standing ovation behind closed doors. Yeah. Last night. Well, first of all, i would say to gloria that when she said they have a tough vote, to me its not a tough vote. Its a Pretty Simple vote. Well she should be removed from these she should be removed from these committees. I mean, we think in washington about all the issues of tough vote or i need to look strong, or we can win, and it obscures the purpose of being an elected official. For republicans, you know, fortunately, you got mitt romney, you got people in the senate, john thune beginning to speak out against this saying they want to be a party of ideas. In the house, i tell you what i thinks going on. I think theyre trying to play both sides. They dont want to Vaggravate Te people who sort of sign up to qanon and these Conspiracy Theories. They dont want to aggravate them but they also want to win the majority. Its all a fight for power and a powi is er to do what . I wish somebody would ask these folks what exactly is your jaja agenda, what exactly do you want to do about health care, what do you want to do about community and police, what do you want to do about the gap between the rich and poor . I dont want to hear you bashing somebody else. Id like to know what you believe. At least in the senate when they have objected to joe bidens 1. 9 trillion, at least they came up with their own plan. I have no clue what those in the house are doing except theyre hungry to get power. And power, to me, without purpose, is bankrupt. You know, van, this 11thhour speech that this congresswoman gave on the House Floor Today, she had years to walk back these comments. Many of them made 2018, 2019. She never did. She didnt. She couldnt even bring herself today to formally apologize. Asked for forgiveness for the outrageous comments that she made. What does that say to you . Well, i mean, too little too late with regard to her speech. You know, Kevin Mccarthy has a point. This is unprecedented. It does set a, quote unquote, bad precedent. But what precedent do we choose . We now have two precedents we have to choose. Its unprecedented for us to have a violent assault on the capitol and have cheerleaders for it sitting in the building. Its unprecedented for us to have somebody in the building who has winked and nodded at killing people in the building. So thats unprecedented. And then the house stepping guard, it does set a precedent when you do something youve never done. If you dont want this precedent, you have to deal with the first one. So she should have never, never, ever been giving these Committee Assignments. That is his fault. That is on him. And he dared the country to put up with it. And so if he wants to make sure that we dont have to have these kinds of tough votes, and they are tough votes in terms of you dont want the speaker to be able to do the stuff all the time, then he needs to do a better Job Taking Care of this stuff. She should be banished from public life. Kevin mccarthy should be ashamed of himself for having put her in the Committee Assignment in the first place. Gloria, its going to be an awkward vote for a lot of republican representatives coming up fairly soon. You know, as the governor said, it shouldnt be an awkward vote for. For some of them in districts where there may be some supporters of hers, maybe it would be tough, but a good leader would have just done what a leader should do. Which is make a decision and say, you know what, we cant give her these Committee Assignments, or not given them to her in the first place as van was saying. The thing that struck me about her speech today which i found disgraceful is that while she was sort solve trying to apologize, she made herself the victim here. You know, shes the victim of cancel culture. Shes the victim of the media. She said these things. She did these things. Its on tape. It kind of remipdnds me of dona trump who always portrayed himself as a victim, said he never said such things then you go back to the videotape and there he was. She was kind of saying i dont believe that anymore, but, anyway, i never really said that, which she did. She didnt need to she wasnt going to change anybodys mind on the floor today and i think she did a disservice to the House Of Representatives. She harassed the a young teenager yeah. Who was a survivor of the parkland mass shooting. I mean, it was horrible what we saw. I want to bring in norm eisen right now. He served as Impeachment Counsel for the House Democrats during the first trump Impeachment Trial about a year or so ago. Hes also now a cnn legal analyst. Norm, the House Managers, the democrats, theyre requesting that the former president actually testify under oath in this Impeachment Trial. The subject of crossexamination, they say, at the same time. The president s attorney just released a statement saying thats not going to happen. They say this is just a Public Relations stunt on the part of the house Impeachment Managers. What do you make of this . Well, wolf, thanks for having me back. I think it is an important point that the House Managers are making. The president filed an answer on paper this week. He repeated his big lie that the Election Results were suspect. He claimed farcically that his fighting words to his followers, that the Insurrection Tailgate on january 6th, were simply about Election Security in the future when he said if you dont fight for your democracy, youre going to lose it. Told them to march on the capitol. So, if hes going to put these lies on paper, let him show up and subject himself to crossexamination under oath. I think its smart. Now, when he doesnt show, as his lawyers are saying he will not, they can point to the empty chair and say, hey, the president wont stand by his words because they are false. Can they subpoena him . Can they vote on the senate floor to issue a subpoena . They could issue a subpoena for the president. Hell go to court. Hell tie that up in knots. I think theyve made their legal point today, the response by the president s lawyers, that the rules essentially, that the rules of evidence dont apply in an Impeachment Trial, wolf. It was just ridiculous. Under senate rule 7, that we lived under in the last impeachment, all the rules of evidence come in. So i think that theyve put themselves strategically in a good space. It was a surprise. It got peoples attention. Probably not the last surprise were going to see from this very able group of trial lawyers. Yeah, senate trial is supposed to begin next tuesday. All right. Everybody, stand by. Were watching truly Extraordinary Events unfolding right now up on capitol hill. Where lawmakers are about to vote on whether to strip republican representative Marjorie Taylor greene of her Committee Assignments. Were going to talk about that and more. Democratic congressman jason crow, there you see him, hes standing by live. Well discuss when we come back. W smartphone deal. 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Were following multiple breaking stories here in the Situation Room including the House Of Representatives now getting ready to vote on whether to actually remove, remove, republican congresswoman Marjorie Taylor greene from her Committee Assignments. Lets discuss with democratic representative jason crow of colorado. Congressman, thank you so much for joining us. So what message are you and your fellow democrats trying to send with this vote . The question before us, wolf, is will this country allow hateful, violent, rhetoric, incitement of violence, threats against our fellow americans, and members of congress, and engaging in lies and Conspiracy Theories, are we going to allow that to become a part of the mainstream . Because this has to do with Marjorie Taylor greene, but it also has to do with a lot more than marjorie dtaylor greene. There have always been people that peddle in lies and falsehoods in our country. This is different because this has to do with an entire political party, congress, that has to stand up and say are we going to push back on it . The congresswoman said she regrets her comments made in 2018, 2019. She never did actually formally apologize. She spent much of the time deflecting blame. Do you think her speech on the House Floor Today changed any minds, and im speaking specifically about mostly republicans. I dont know whether it changed other peoples minds. I didnt hear what i needed to hear. Listen, i believe in second chances. I actually believe in redemption. I believe that people can change and can correct their mistakes. So i think it would have been great if Marjorie Taylor greene would have come up and say, i was wrong. What i said was wrong. It was a mistake. And im going to change it. But that is not what we heard. And you also have to look at whats happening outside of that speech. You know, she is fundraising off of this over the last couple of of days. Shes attacking people on twitter. She got a standing ovation in the gop Caucus Last Night For Fighting back. This is not a repentant individual. This is somebody who has not learned her lesson. And thats why were having to take the action were taking. While i have you, congressman, lets talk about the impeach the trial coming up next people on the floor of the u. S. Senate. The former president just rejected an invitation from democrats to testify at the upcoming trial. You served as House Manager during the first trump impeachment a year or so ago. Do you think democrats should subpoena the former president and actually try to force him to testify under oath including crossexamination . Well, what i know is that you have in jamie raskin the lead Impeachment Manager Somebody whos a constitutional scholar and a lawyer without equal in this congress. So hes going to take a look at all the facts. Take a look at the needs. You know, i know that im not in that room anymore. I dont know what conversations theyre having with President Trumps lawyers. So i know that jamie raskin and that team will make the decision thats right for the country. And for the congress to get to the truth and hold the president accountable. That trial starts next tuesday. All right, congressman crow, thank you so much for joining us. Thank you, wolf. All right. Theres more Breaking News were following as we await the House Vote On Whether to strip this republican congresswoman of her committee post. And is the Biden Administration trying to send masks, face masks, to every american . We have details on all the late breaking developments in the pandemic when we come back. Want to save hundreds on your wireless bill . With Xfinity Mobile you can. How about saving hundreds on the new Samsung Galaxy s21 ultra 5g . You can do that too. All on the most Reliable Network. Sure thing and with fast nationwide 5g included at no extra cost. Weve got you covered. So join the carrier rated 1 in customer satisfaction. And get a new Samsung Galaxy starting at 17 a month. Learn more at xfinitymobile. Com or visit your local xfinity store today. Tonight the u. S. Coronavirus death toll topped 454,000 people with more than 26. 6 million confirmed cases here in the United States. Although new infections are declining nationwide, the number of daily deaths remains alarmingly high. Cnns lucy kavenof has the latest. Reporter as fears grow of another looming covid19 surge, sources familiar with the Biden Administrations Coronavirus Response say the white house may be looking at Coordinating Mask Shipments directly to americans. No decision has been made to do that, so i dont have a cost assessment. Obviously, it would depend on how many people would be sent a mask. Reporter curving the spread is a race against the clock. With new questions about the faster spreading variant first identified in the uk. Is it more deadly . Theres increasing data that suggests that some of the variants, the b117 variant, may actually be increased lead to increased mortality. And the jury is still out with regard to how these vaccines are going to work with regard against these variants. Reporter and could it become the dominant variant in hot spots like florida and california . Now is not the time to ditch your mask. I think this game is at halftime. Got off of the deficit. We tied the game at halftime. We need to keep pushing and not give this virus a chance to play well the second half. Reporter after months of darkness, finally a glimmer of light. New cases continuing to decline across the nation. 41 states showing downward trends. Eight holding steady. The pace of vaccinations on the rise since midjanuary. The u. S. Now administering an average of 1. 32 million vaccine doses a day, but that still might not be fast enough. We do need to make it go faster, though, to stay ahead of those variant strains and to really help contain the pandemic. Reporter the pandemic remains as deadly as ever. The u. S. Averaging more than 3,000 deaths a day. The cdc predicting more than half a million could die of covid19 by the end of the month. That would amount to one death per every minute of the pandemic. Schools are safe schools are safe reporter meanwhile, the fight over reopening schools continues. What we believe is exactly what the cdc, dr. Fauci, what the Biden Administration, believes. That we can safely reopen schools. Reporter californias governor pushing for students to return to inperson learning before all teachers are vaccinated. Open schools now reporter the city of San Francisco suing its School District and board to force schools to reopen. The ball is in the ctus court. Reporter chicago forced to delay reopening again as the School District and Teachers Union fail to meet a deadline for a deal. We do not have a deal to report this morning, but we will remain at the table in an effort to get a deal done. Reporter while the new study found that weekly rapid tests for teachers, students and staff could cut Infection Rates by 50 . It doesnt matter how much the data suggests that they can be made safe. They dont feel safe. We have the ability to vaccinate them. So lets just vaccinate them. Reporter and in the rush to vaccinate as many people as possible, especially before these more contagious spreads variants of covid19 become more widespread, there was some hope based on preliminary research that those who had already had the coronavirus could maybe get away with taking just one dose of the vaccine. Well, dr. Anthony fauci dispelling that notion today, tweeting that nose who have had covid19 should stick to the fda guidance. Getting two doses, two shots, at 21 or 28 days apart. Wolf . Better to be safe than sorry. Lucy, thank you very, very much. Lets get more on all of this. Michael osterholm is joining using. Professor, thanks so much for joining us. Let me get your thoughts on this thank you. Plan out there at least to start Shipping Masks to every american. Do you think sendi ing masks directly to american households will make people more likely to actually wear them . I think it very well could. It does two things. One, it makes it available where someone who might not know where to go get one now has one. The second thing is now that you have it in your hand and find that its not some kind of awkward instrument to have to wear, you very well may wear it. So right now, i think anything we can do like that to decrease the potential for transmission is a good thing. New cases and hospitalizations, as you just heard in lucys report, are declining, but if this new highly contagious viral variant is also more deadly, do you worry its only a matter of time before we, got fd forbid, see another big surge . Its inevitable from where i sit right now. Were going to continue to see these ups and downs. Dont forget that we were at 32,000 cases in april. That was as high as it could get. Then we got into july, we got 70,000 cases. Thats as high as it could get. Then we got 200,000 cases in november, as high as it could get. Then we hit 300,000 cases in january. I think this next surge with this new variant from the United Kingdom could very well far surpass 300,000 cases a day. So as much as we all want to feel better about whats happening, we just have to understand that we have some very, very dark days ahead. Which is so sad to hear. Lets talk about the fight over school reopening. Schools across the country, many states are actually pushing for kids to return to the classroom before teachers are vaccinated. Is that the right call . The data we have today shows, particularly in younger kids, the risk of transmission to schools is exceedingly low and kind of put that into perspective. If you look at the last eight years here in minnesota, weve had 31 children who have died from influenza. While attending school. Much of the transmission occurred in schools. And no one called for the stopping of education of closing schools, but now today, where weve not had a single child of school age die from covid19 in this state, theres reluctance. I understand these teachers. Its a fearful kind of event. We have to help educate them that, in fact, they can work if those environments quite safely. So from that perspective i believe that particularly for younger children, this is a good thing to do. At the same somtime, please getr teachers vaccinated. I agree. Get them vaccinated and the kids back in the classroom. Its so critically important. Dr. Osterholm, thank you for joining us. Thank you, quwolf. Declaring the days of, in his words, rolling over in the face of russias aggressive actions, the president says those days are over. 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Well compete from a position of strength by Building Back better at home, working with our allies and partners, renewing our role in international institutions. And reclaiming our credibility and moral authority. Reporter president s first visit to the state Department Underscoring a stark shift from his predecessor. I will always put america first. Reporter biden laying out an indictment of the trump administrations work across the globe, signaling a new approach on russia. The days of the United States rolling over in the face of russias aggressive actions, interfering with our elections, cyber attacks, poisoning itself citizens, are over. We will not hesitate to raise the cost on russia and defend our vital interests and our people. Reporter alining allies to push back on the imprisonment of alexei navalny. Hes been targeted. Targeted. For exposing corruption. He should be released immediately and without condition. Reporter with biden providing glimpses of the administrations stance on china, pushing strength. Well confront chinas economic abuses. Counter its aggressive, coercive action to push back on chinas attack on human rights, intellectual property, and global governance. Reporter but with a willingness to talk. But were ready to work with beijing when its in americas interest to do so. Reporter and on the press. We believe a free press isnt an adversary. Rather, its essential. Reporter biden moving to end u. S. Support for offensive actions in yemen. While halting the drawdown of u. S. Troops in germany amid a Global Force Posture review. And signing an Executive Order to boost refugee numbers. Even as he acknowledged the dramatically reduced levels will take time to rebuild. Its going to take time to rebuild what has been so badly damaged, but thats precisely what were going to do. Reporter all serving as a baseline for a dramatic shift in u. S. Posture. Weve taken steps to acknowledge and address systemic racism and the scourge of White Supremacy in our own country. Reporter as the u. S. Grapples with its own deep divides. Many of these values have come under intense pressure in recent years. Even pushed to the brink in the last few weeks. The American People are going to merge from this moment stronger, more determined, and better equipped to unite the world in fighting to defend democracy because we have fought for it ourselves. Reporter and, wolf, while the president was focused on Foreign Policy today, the white house still urgency pressing for action on its cornerstone legislative proposal. That 1. 9 trillion kz coronavir relief package. Right now engaged in a become a back and forth. Monday night, ten Senate Republicans meeting for nearly two hours with President Biden. Shortly after that by 11 00 the next morning at President Bidens request, white house staff sending detailed policy memos to those republicans laying out justifications for those proposals that republicans disagree with on the scope and scale. A short while ago republicans responding to those memos laying out in detail their objections to several of those proposals in some, wolf, really underscoring a divide in how both side are approaching this. Republicans making clear they want targeted action. The Biden Administration repeatedly saying from President Biden on down, they want to act big. The danger is going too small. Not too big. All underscoring that a bipartisan solution, a bipartisan agreement, seems very far off right now as democrats on capitol hill move forward in this process. Wolf . All right. Well see what happens in the days ahead. Thanks very much, Phil Mattingly over at the white house. An important Programming Note for our viewers. Be sure to join me on monday when the new secretary of state, tony blinken, will give us an interview here on cnn. Tony blinken, the new secretary of state, joins me live on monday. Well discuss all the late breaking international developments. Meanwhile, lets discuss whats going on with the senator from delaware, senator chris coons. Hes a key member of the Senate Foreign relations committee. Thanks so much, senator, for joining us. You heard President Bidens Foreign Policy speech today. Its coming into shape. We also heard the stark warning that he, in his words, will not hesitate to raise the cost on russia for what he describes as its malign activities. But what do you think that cost will actually look like . Well, wolf, that forceful response to russias actions, both a poisoning and arrest of navalny, and Opposition Leader and the way in which through their cyber hack of American National security systems, and their assault on our 2016 election, the ways in which russia has tested and tested the United States, our leadership in the world, our commitment to democracy, a forceful response such as we heard from President Biden today was long overdue. There are ways that we can target through sanctions the closest supporters of Vladimir Putin and make it more expensive for the Senior Leadership of russia, that corrupt inner core that sustains putins hold on russia, for them to continue their aggressive actions in the region and the world. The president has made some veiled references to the damage done during the trump administration. Saying the United States will have to, quote, earn back our leadership position. Thats a direct quote. On the global stage. How does the president earn that back . Well, wolf, one of the things i talked with President Biden about yesterday is the urgency, the importance, of our vaccinating all of the United States so that we can get out of this pandemic but also working in partnership with the world health organization, with covaxx, with other leading western nations to make sure that scientifically sound, affordable and effective vaccines, are available for the world. The russians are promoting their socalled sputnik vaccine which wasnt subject to rigorous testing, isnt clearly safe, but both china and russia are offering their vaccines to billions of people in the developing world. I think the United States has an opportunity here to earn back some of our Global Leadership in public health. Wolf, i also think we need to lock arms with some of our closest and most trusted allies. The folks who have long stood shoulder to shoulder with us in nato, for example, whove stood alongside us in afghanistan and iraq and elsewhere. President trump really rattled the cage of our close allies, both by pushing them relentlessly to increase their contributions and by testing them with tariffs, national securitybased tariffs that impose costs on close allies like canada, south korea, japan, the United Kingdom, at a time when we need to pull them closer in our global contest with china. I want to get your thoughts, while i have you, on this covid Emergency Relief Bill that the administration is putting forward. 1. 9 trillion. These ten republican senators who met with President Biden in the oval office earlier in the week have now sent him a letter outlining their concerns. They say they have significant questions about the price tag considering the amount of money unspent so far from the previous covid emergency packages. How do you address those concerns . Well, wolf, first, janet yellen, the treasury secretary, has said the risks of our going too small are far greater than our risks of going too big. I do think President Biden will continue to engage in thorough and sincere outreach with republicans in an effort to find a path toward a robust package that meets the real needs of American Families all over our country. But we will be up very late tonight here in the senate ensuring that we have a pathway for that 1. 9 trillion package to be passed if we have to with only democratic votes by midmarch which is when Unemployment Checks run out. When the Eviction Moratorium expires. President biden when ive spoken to him, when he has spoken to our caucus, is perfectly clear. He wants to deliver relief to the American People in a bipartisan way. If possible. And he is going to respond to concerns about how to target that. How to make it effective. But he is not going to spend months and months chasing negotiations if they dont go anywhere. So we are doing what we have to in the senate tonight to be prepared to support President Biden with or without republican votes. Well see if you get all 50 if you get all 50 democrats onboard, you need 50 democrats plus the Vice President to break a tie if that happens. Well see if it does. Senator coons, thanks so much for joining us. Thank you, wolf. Coming up, how the Antivaccine Movement merged with stop the steal supporters of the former president on the day of the capitol siege. We have new information. Youll want to see this when we come back. announcer carvanas had a lot of firsts. 100 online car buying. Car vending machines. And now, putting you in control of your financing. At carvana, get personalized terms, browse for cars that fit your budget, then customize your down payment and monthly payment. And these arent madeup numbers. Its what youll really pay, right down to the penny. Whether youre shopping or just looking. It only takes a few seconds, and it wont affect your credit score. Finally a totally different way to finance your ride. Only from carvana. The new way to buy a car. After former President Trumps defeat, some leaders of the antivaxxeen movement actually latched on to the socalled stop the steal movement, bringing together two Conspiracy Theories the day of the capitol siege. Cnn investigative correspondent drew griffin is working the story for us. Thank you all for being here. On january 6th on a separate stage yet very much part of the election protest, this microrally had a different folkts. These are the antivaxxers. Forced covid vaccine, such a scam. Innocent people are being lined up, walking to their potential death. Their event, part pandemic denial, part stop the steal, part prayer service. For those participating in the capitol storm. We pay for the patriots that are there now, inside. Theyre trying to get inside that capitol. Lord, use these people to eradicate this evil. These swamp creatures, the cesspool of filth and waste. A cnn review finds the people involved in this microrally are locking the antigovernment stop the steal rally to the antivaccine connection. Some are connected to the Disinformation Network of roger stone. They name drop stop the steal organizer alley alexander, and are peddling the same type of conspiracy linked Health Products at alex jones, essentially turning conspiracy into business. This is war between good and evil. Antivaccine advocate introduced speaker after speaker, stopping occasionally to gleefully report what was happening in the capitol about a block away, her husband left the rally to join in. I asked if he was in the capitol. He said outside it. The capitol has been swarmed by patriots. Were winning. Also speaking, mickey willis, whose discredited video was viewed millions of times before being removed by youtube. Invited to speak, dr. Simone gold, the antivaxxer who seeks donations to pusher conspiracies. She became infamous with a stunt at the Supreme Court last year, appearing with doctors who claim alien dna is being put in medicine. This is what she said at a maggie rally january 5th. If you dont want to take an experimental biological agent, you must not allow yourself to be coerced. The next game, she went inside the capitol and was later arrested. Through her organization, she tells cnn she didnt participate in violence and rebukes such conspiracy. Conspiracy is the sauce that linked them all together, according to one who wrote a study about the antivaxx movement and said making money is at the heart of all of this. These are snake oil salesmen. And lets be clear, for the money. For the profit. Snake oil salesmen need to turn a profit. Thats apparent in The Business Of Ty and charlene bollinger. Its ty and charlene. They have their own Political Action committee and run two businesses centered on k conspiracies. Their social media pages have more than a million followers. Have you heard the truth about cancer or the truth about vaccines . The bollingers live on 13 acres in this 7600 square foot 1. 5 million mansion in rural tenn tennessee. Their cancer and vaccine websites are businesses marketing their video series that costs up to 500. An air purifier thats more than 300, Body Clenanses and other unproven products. Disclaimers warn nothing presented is intended to treat, cure, or prevent any disease, and any purchased through their sites means the bollingers will be paid in some way. While theyre not camera shy, the bollingers did not respond to multiple requests for comment from cnn. For all these conspiracies are dangerous, but particularly dangerous are the ones that say dont take the vaccine. Not just to people who potentially will not get a lifesaving vaccine, but to the rest of us who are counting on as many people getting it so that we might achieve herd immunity. Wolf. Drew griffin reporting for us, thank you. 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