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former colleague, david axelrod, has a different take. here's what he said. he said, let trump make his conviction a top issue. and full minute about it until the cows come home. biden needs to pound the vast differences between them on the issues and touch people's lives i'm for you. he's for him. >> your thoughts yeah. >> i've look i've i've not i've never gone very far in my life betting against david axelrod my boss for many years, to be smart, i will i will say just two things. one david is exactly right for most voters, inflation and abortion and issues like that are incredibly important. so he cannot see the ground on those i just believed that in this moment, in this immediate environment where it's sorta get people's attention when something pops out of the hermetically sealed bubbles that most people live in. that's the time to shape it right? and to talk about it. and so there doesn't mean he should put aside all the economic events, all the inflation sap talking about the real threat to democracy and