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first, the latest headlines. the us supreme court has ruled donald trump is partially immune from prosecution for actions taken while he was in the white house. courts will now need to distinguish between what were official and unofficial actions — and that will be delayed well beyond november's election. the trump ally, steve bannon, has reported to prison to begin his four month sentence for defying a congressional subpoena. bannon refused to give evidence before the committee investigating the storming of the us capitol building injanuary 2021; he was convicted the following year but has stayed out ofjail while appealing the judgment. the first round of france's parliamentary elections has seen the far right make historic gains. marine le pen�*s far right national rally came top, with more than a third of the vote, followed by a surge in support for the left wing coalition. leaving the party of the current president — emmanuel macron — in third. the category—four storm hurricane beryl has made landfall on the caribbean island of carriacou in grenada. saint vincent and the grenadines are also at risk of being hit. forecasters say it is "extremely dangerous", with wind speeds of more than 200 and 15 kilometres an hour. it is an historic ruling that could have significant consequences. the us supreme court has ruled that donald trump is partially immune from prosecution for actions taken while he was in the white house, over his attempts to overturn the result of the 2020 election. courts will now need to distinguish between what were official and unofficial actions — and that will be delayed well beyond november's election. the former president immediately described the decision as a �*big win on truth social. joining me now is sheera shindlin, a retired us districtjudge. thanks for coming on the programme. we'll get into the details and a second. first of all, your immediate thoughts? my second. first of all, your immediate thou~hts? g ., ., , thoughts? my immediate thought is the easy one _ thoughts? my immediate thought is the easy one that _ thoughts? my immediate thought is the easy one that you _ thoughts? my immediate thought is the easy one that you already - thoughts? my immediate thought is the easy one that you already said. | the easy one that you already said. this definitely means there will not be a trial of this federaljanuary six case until after the election, after the election of course, if he wins, he will have hisjustice department dismiss it, so it may never be tried.— never be tried. let's look at some ofthe never be tried. let's look at some of the detail— never be tried. let's look at some of the detail of _ never be tried. let's look at some of the detail of what _ never be tried. let's look at some of the detail of what was - never be tried. let's look at some of the detail of what was decided, what the ruling was. what did you make of the distinction is made in the building itself? i make of the distinction is made in the building itself?— the building itself? i read the ma'ori the building itself? i read the majority opinion _ the building itself? i read the majority opinion and - the building itself? i read the majority opinion and some i the building itself? i read the majority opinion and some ofj the building itself? i read the - majority opinion and some of the dissenting opinion and i have to say the dissenting opinion say —— seemed more persuasive to me. the majority opinion seem to have created these three tiers, there is absolute immunity for core constitutional functions, but then there is something called presumptive immunity for what they call, the outer perimeter of presidential functions. so it wasn't quite as simple as you said between official and an official, personal activities, because there is this middle ground of presumptive but rebuttable immunity for certain acts which are not constitutional. i hope that wasn't too tricky, but what it means is that when this is remanded, as it is now, to the districtjudge, she is going to have to have hearings with briefs and evidence from the lawyers, perhaps witnesses, and all of the different things that are alleged in this indictment that donald trump did, often with his co—conspirators. for each thing that is alleged she is going to have to do is decide is it going to fall in box one, two or box three. then, if she decides that other than a few core functions that were already said to be absolutely immune, so she doesn't have to do anything there, let's say she decides no immunity for the rest, what happens next is that they appeal to the district of columbia circuit and if they agree with her, what do they do next, they appealed to the supreme court. my sense is, this is going to be a long time, if ever, for this case to be tried. �* u, , time, if ever, for this case to be tried. �* , _, time, if ever, for this case to be tried. �* , tried. because you said you were persuaded _ tried. because you said you were persuaded by _ tried. because you said you were persuaded by large _ tried. because you said you were persuaded by large parts - tried. because you said you were persuaded by large parts of- tried. because you said you were persuaded by large parts of the l persuaded by large parts of the dissenting voices, one of the sentences really stand out, one —— the president is aching above the law. what are your thoughts on that. ash —— aching above the law. the law. what are your thoughts on that. ash -- aching above the law.- ash -- aching above the law. the it makes him — ash -- aching above the law. the it makes him untouchable. _ ash -- aching above the law. the it makes him untouchable. he - ash -- aching above the law. the it makes him untouchable. he has. ash -- aching above the law. the it makes him untouchable. he has to| ash —— aching above the law. tue: it makes him untouchable. he has to go way outside of what a president would do. if i was standing on fifth ave and shot somebody, i couldn't be prosecuted, of course he could, that has nothing to do with his residential functions. has nothing to do with his residentialfunctions. i understand residential functions. i understand they residentialfunctions. i understand they are saying there is too much in here that makes him immuno. it is the middle one, that presumptive immunity, and the outer perimeter of his functions, that is the troubling one. it is really a core constitutional function, one. it is really a core constitutionalfunction, like supervising the eternal general, i understand that, that is what presidents do. i can see some basis stop it is that middle one that is so broad that we don't know what it means. it means that a president is like a king and can do whatever he wants and can face no consequences. i want to get a final thoughts from you in a moment. ijust want to bring in our panel first. annabel denham comment editor, the telegraph and jack blanchard uk editor, politico. jack, your reaction to the decision? to british eyes it looks extraordinary to anybody to be put above _ extraordinary to anybody to be put above the — extraordinary to anybody to be put above the law, whether it is trump or anybody— above the law, whether it is trump or anybody else. when these stories come _ or anybody else. when these stories come out _ or anybody else. when these stories come out from america i try to imagine — come out from america i try to imagine them being imposed on our antiquated _ imagine them being imposed on our antiquated british system and the idea of— antiquated british system and the idea of our prime minister breaking a law— idea of our prime minister breaking a law in_ idea of our prime minister breaking a law in a _ idea of our prime minister breaking a law in a serious way and everyone knowing _ a law in a serious way and everyone knowing that and people just being fine with_ knowing that and people just being fine with them being given immunity, beggars— fine with them being given immunity, beggars belief to my eyes. it seems surprising _ beggars belief to my eyes. it seems surprising to me. i realise america has a _ surprising to me. i realise america has a different constitutional system, _ has a different constitutional system, but from a british point of view, _ system, but from a british point of view, out — system, but from a british point of view, out of— system, but from a british point of view, out of the current context, it seems _ view, out of the current context, it seems surreal.— seems surreal. what were your resonse seems surreal. what were your response annabel? _ seems surreal. what were your response annabel? for- seems surreal. what were your response annabel? for all- seems surreal. what were your response annabel? for all of i seems surreal. what were your. response annabel? for all of the complaints _ response annabel? for all of the complaints you _ response annabel? for all of the complaints you hear _ response annabel? for all of the complaints you hear here - response annabel? for all of the complaints you hear here in - response annabel? for all of the l complaints you hear here in britain and the _ complaints you hear here in britain and the disillusionment— complaints you hear here in britain and the disillusionment and - and the disillusionment and disenchantment— and the disillusionment and disenchantment that - and the disillusionment and disenchantment that is - and the disillusionment and disenchantment that is felt| and the disillusionment and . disenchantment that is felt by and the disillusionment and - disenchantment that is felt by many voters _ disenchantment that is felt by many voters with— disenchantment that is felt by many voters with our— disenchantment that is felt by many voters with our politicians _ disenchantment that is felt by many voters with our politicians and - disenchantment that is felt by many voters with our politicians and our . voters with our politicians and our political _ voters with our politicians and our political system _ voters with our politicians and our political system and _ voters with our politicians and our political system and public - political system and public services, _ political system and public services, which _ political system and public services, which are - political system and public - services, which are crumbling, what choice _ services, which are crumbling, what choice facing — services, which are crumbling, what choice facing america, _ services, which are crumbling, what choice facing america, two - services, which are crumbling, what choice facing america, two men- services, which are crumbling, what| choice facing america, two men who are very— choice facing america, two men who are very widely— choice facing america, two men who are very widely disliked, _ choice facing america, two men who are very widely disliked, biden's - are very widely disliked, biden's presidency— are very widely disliked, biden's presidency has _ are very widely disliked, biden's presidency has given _ are very widely disliked, biden's presidency has given the - are very widely disliked, biden's . presidency has given the american people _ presidency has given the american people high— presidency has given the american people high inflation, _ presidency has given the american people high inflation, turmoil- people high inflation, turmoil abroad, — people high inflation, turmoil abroad, trump— people high inflation, turmoil abroad, trump faces - people high inflation, turmoil abroad, trump faces federall people high inflation, turmoil- abroad, trump faces federal charges. 0ver abroad, trump faces federal charges. over his _ abroad, trump faces federal charges. 0ver his participation _ abroad, trump faces federal charges. 0ver his participation in— abroad, trump faces federal charges. 0ver his participation in the _ abroad, trump faces federal charges. 0ver his participation in the scheme i 0ver his participation in the scheme to develop— 0ver his participation in the scheme to develop democracy. _ 0ver his participation in the scheme to develop democracy. in _ 0ver his participation in the scheme to develop democracy. in contrast l 0ver his participation in the schemel to develop democracy. in contrast to that rishi _ to develop democracy. in contrast to that rishi sunak_ to develop democracy. in contrast to that rishi sunak and _ to develop democracy. in contrast to that rishi sunak and keir— to develop democracy. in contrast to that rishi sunak and keir starmer. that rishi sunak and keir starmer don't _ that rishi sunak and keir starmer don't look— that rishi sunak and keir starmer don't look so _ that rishi sunak and keir starmer don't look so terrible _ that rishi sunak and keir starmer don't look so terrible for - that rishi sunak and keir starmer don't look so terrible for the - that rishi sunak and keir starmerl don't look so terrible for the prime ministership— don't look so terrible for the prime ministership of— don't look so terrible for the prime ministership of britain. _ don't look so terrible for the prime ministership of britain. the - don't look so terrible for the primej ministership of britain. the second thing _ ministership of britain. the second thing is _ ministership of britain. the second thing is that— ministership of britain. the second thing is that there _ ministership of britain. the second thing is that there is _ ministership of britain. the second thing is that there is a _ ministership of britain. the second thing is that there is a different - thing is that there is a different constitutional— thing is that there is a different constitutional system - thing is that there is a different constitutional system in - thing is that there is a different. constitutional system in america thing is that there is a different - constitutional system in america to what we _ constitutional system in america to what we have — constitutional system in america to what we have in— constitutional system in america to what we have in britain. _ constitutional system in america to what we have in britain. but - constitutional system in america to what we have in britain. but i - constitutional system in america to what we have in britain. but i think| what we have in britain. but i think it is crucial— what we have in britain. but i think it is crucial that _ what we have in britain. but i think it is crucial that in _ what we have in britain. but i think it is crucial that in the _ what we have in britain. but i think it is crucial that in the uk - it is crucial that in the ukjudges seem _ it is crucial that in the ukjudges seem to — it is crucial that in the ukjudges seem to be _ it is crucial that in the ukjudges seem to be above _ it is crucial that in the ukjudges seem to be above politics - it is crucial that in the ukjudges seem to be above politics and i it is crucial that in the ukjudges . seem to be above politics and look at the _ seem to be above politics and look at the situation _ seem to be above politics and look at the situation you _ seem to be above politics and look at the situation you have _ seem to be above politics and look at the situation you have when - seem to be above politics and looki at the situation you have when they seem _ at the situation you have when they seem to _ at the situation you have when they seem to be — at the situation you have when they seem to be politicised _ at the situation you have when they seem to be politicised and - at the situation you have when they seem to be politicised and that - at the situation you have when they seem to be politicised and that will| seem to be politicised and that will be further— seem to be politicised and that will be further entrenched _ seem to be politicised and that will be further entrenched now - seem to be politicised and that will be further entrenched now since i seem to be politicised and that will| be further entrenched now since the ruling _ be further entrenched now since the ruling trump— be further entrenched now since the ruling. trump chose _ be further entrenched now since the ruling. trump chose three _ be further entrenched now since the ruling. trump chose three of- be further entrenched now since the ruling. trump chose three of those. ruling. trump chose three of those judges _ ruling. trump chose three of those judges who— ruling. trump chose three of those judges who side _ ruling. trump chose three of those judges who side with _ ruling. trump chose three of those judges who side with them. - ruling. trump chose three of those judges who side with them. we i ruling. trump chose three of those i judges who side with them. we have dipped _ judges who side with them. we have dipped our— judges who side with them. we have dipped ourtoe — judges who side with them. we have dipped ourtoe in— judges who side with them. we have dipped our toe in the _ judges who side with them. we have dipped our toe in the water- judges who side with them. we have dipped our toe in the water over- judges who side with them. we have dipped our toe in the water over the| dipped our toe in the water over the last few— dipped our toe in the water over the last few years — dipped our toe in the water over the last few years with _ dipped our toe in the water over the last few years with alex _ dipped our toe in the water over the last few years with alex salmond i dipped our toe in the water over the. last few years with alex salmond and some _ last few years with alex salmond and some of— last few years with alex salmond and some of the — last few years with alex salmond and some of the accusations _ last few years with alex salmond and some of the accusations he _ last few years with alex salmond and some of the accusations he made i some of the accusations he made against _ some of the accusations he made against nicola _ some of the accusations he made against nicola sturgeon- some of the accusations he made against nicola sturgeon and i some of the accusations he made l against nicola sturgeon and angela rayner— against nicola sturgeon and angela rayner being — against nicola sturgeon and angela rayner being investigated - against nicola sturgeon and angela rayner being investigated over- against nicola sturgeon and angela rayner being investigated over the| rayner being investigated over the police _ rayner being investigated over the police over— rayner being investigated over the police over the _ rayner being investigated over the police over the net— rayner being investigated over the police over the net capital- rayner being investigated over the police over the net capital gains. police over the net capital gains that she — police over the net capital gains that she should _ police over the net capital gains that she should have _ police over the net capital gains that she should have paid - police over the net capital gains that she should have paid on. police over the net capital gains that she should have paid on a. that she should have paid on a second — that she should have paid on a second home. _ that she should have paid on a second home. almost - that she should have paid on a second home. almost feeling i that she should have paid on a - second home. almost feeling doubly grateful— second home. almost feeling doubly grateful when — second home. almost feeling doubly grateful when we _ second home. almost feeling doubly grateful when we look _ second home. almost feeling doubly grateful when we look at _ second home. almost feeling doubly grateful when we look at what - second home. almost feeling doubly grateful when we look at what is i grateful when we look at what is happening — grateful when we look at what is happening across _ grateful when we look at what is happening across the _ grateful when we look at what is happening across the pond, i grateful when we look at what is l happening across the pond, not to say we _ happening across the pond, not to say we don't — happening across the pond, not to say we don't have _ happening across the pond, not to say we don't have problems - happening across the pond, not to say we don't have problems on i happening across the pond, not to| say we don't have problems on our own _ say we don't have problems on our own. ., ~' say we don't have problems on our own. . ~ , ., say we don't have problems on our own. . ~ i. ., ., ., ., own. thank you for that. i want to brina ou own. thank you for that. i want to bring you back _ own. thank you for that. i want to bring you back in _ own. thank you for that. i want to bring you back in on _ own. thank you for that. i want to bring you back in on one - own. thank you for that. i want to bring you back in on one of- own. thank you for that. i want to bring you back in on one of those| bring you back in on one of those points by annable, this 6—3 split along the lines that you could have predicted and would expect. how damaging is that to the credibility of the supreme goal? t damaging is that to the credibility of the supreme goal?— of the supreme goal? i think it is very damaging- _ of the supreme goal? i think it is very damaging- it _ of the supreme goal? i think it is very damaging. it makes - of the supreme goal? i think it is very damaging. it makes their i very damaging. it makes their judiciary a bid to be a third political branch and it is not supposed to be but it appears that way when you have six republican appointed, three democrats appointed and they split completely on party lines, it doesn't look good. it looks like they are political actors, especially when you read the one opinion against the other, each opinion tears apart the other one. smart people can differ but this is dramatic. i think it reduces the trust of the people in the judiciary and there are statistics that show respect for the court is at an all—time low impulse, i think it is about 35% approve of the judiciary and i can see why. about 3596 approve of the 'udiciary and i can see wwi and i can see why. thank you so much all three. around the world and across the uk. this is bbc news. with just a few days of campaining left, rishi sunak has denied that he's given up on winning the election saying "it is not over till it's over", despite talking about the prospect of a labour "super—majority. " he's been speaking to our political editor chris mason. today and tomorrow, i'm following the two men who want to be your prime minister this weekend and for the next five years. i'll be talking to labour's keir starmer tomorrow. here we go, last few days. first stop, stoke—on—trent. it's rishi sunak today, as both men embark on a masochistic hurtle around the uk before polling day. so, onto the battle bus for the first visit. welcome to the bus. thank you. this a business that distributes medicines. the production line of campaigning has a similar regularity, too. visits like this are a chance to make his pitch to workers in a relatively controlled environment. applause. here we go. here he comes. and take a listen to rishi sunak�*s tone and emphasis. a vote for the conservatives is notjust a vote to stop a supermajority, but it's also a vote to make sure that we will fight for you. i will fight for you. i will make sure that your voice is heard. right? that is what this is about. and crucially, i will keep cutting your taxes. prime minister, listening to you talking to the workers just now, it sounded like you had given up. no, absolutely not. i'm talking to as many people as i can across the country. talking about a supermajority. yeah, what i was saying to people is i don't want anyone to sleepwalk into thursday because there is a danger of a labour government that i want people to be alive to. and the choice for everyone on thursday is a vote for the conservatives, which will mean their taxes continue to get cut, we will get migration down and secure our borders, pensions will be protected. a vote for anyone else is just going to get the precise opposite of those things. you and your campaign have talked in the last few days about the irreversible damage that a labour government could do and do very quickly in power, and there will be many people who might share that fear, but if you believe that, why did you call the election six months earlier than you needed to? you could have governed as a conservative prime minister for another six months before this moment. i think people deserve a choice. and my priority when i became prime minister was to deliver economic stability, and we have done that, inflation is down from 11% back to normal, wages are rising, the economy is growing faster than our competitors, and taxes are starting to be cut. cheering and applause. this is the week where all the leaders return to their big pitch. here is sir keir starmer, miles ahead in the opinion polls, in hitchin in hertfordshire. and, look, the sun isjust about shining, this is the summer, and we have one job, which is to make this a summerof change. but perhaps rishi sunak can take inspiration from the last—minute heroics of the england team last night. is there a rishi sunak equivalent of ajude bellingham overhead kick that we're going to see in the next 48—72 hours to radically change what looks like the scoreline could be? mine is probably more a kind of flashy, i don't know, cover drive, or off drive, or something instead. a cricket themed answerfor rishi sunak as the road trip trundles on. next stop, warwickshire. let's pick through this with our panel cut, let's pick through this with our annabel denham comment editor, the telegraph and jack blanchard uk editor, politico. what do you think of him pushing this idea of a supermajority? this this idea of a superma'ority? this is the tight * this idea of a supermajority? try 3 is the tight rope that rishi sunak is the tight rope that rishi sunak is trying to walk. he has to insist voters that he has not given up fighting, he will fight for every single vote, that he still thinks there's a chance that the tories could win this election, in what would be an extraordinary result given the polling over the last five weeks. it is an interesting strategy, not necessarily the wrong one, because of course he needs to frighten voters into thinking there might be a labour supermajority. he might be a labour supermajority. he might want to frighten voters into thinking that if the tories are unable to get more than 50 seats, thenit unable to get more than 50 seats, then it could be the case that the liberal democrats are the official opposition and then you have two left—wing parties representing britain. really the interesting story of this election, the one that will have the nephrologist and nerds and historians poring over it for years to come is how starmer will win a supermajority for about 38% of the vote and how will he lead when there isn't a strong mandate for his agenda, just a rejection of the tories and their record in office over the last ia years, specifically the ways in which voters feel betrayed on immigration. there is a visceral dislike of rishi sunak and the conservative party, but that isn't to say that people feel inspired by keir starmer. what do ou make inspired by keir starmer. what do you make of _ inspired by keir starmer. what do you make of the _ inspired by keir starmer. what do you make of the messaging i inspired by keir starmer. what do you make of the messaging we i you make of the messaging we are hearing from rishi sunak so close to an election? it hearing from rishi sunak so close to an election?— an election? it has been going on for a week— an election? it has been going on for a week or _ an election? it has been going on for a week or two _ an election? it has been going on for a week or two i _ an election? it has been going on for a week or two i doesn't i an election? it has been going on for a week or two i doesn't make | an election? it has been going onl for a week or two i doesn't make a lot of— for a week or two i doesn't make a lot of sense — for a week or two i doesn't make a lot of sense and i think to —— chris makin— lot of sense and i think to —— chris makin got— lot of sense and i think to —— chris makin got to — lot of sense and i think to —— chris makin got to the heart of it. he is suggesting that he can't win, he can't _ suggesting that he can't win, he can't go — suggesting that he can't win, he can't go into an election admitting he can't _ can't go into an election admitting he can't win, so he finds himself tongue—tied trying to make two different— tongue—tied trying to make two different arguments at once and i don't _ different arguments at once and i don't think that is going to land very— don't think that is going to land very well— don't think that is going to land very well with voters. it is confusing and doesn't make sense, it doesn't _ confusing and doesn't make sense, it doesn't pass— confusing and doesn't make sense, it doesn't pass the five second sniff test that— doesn't pass the five second sniff test that you need simple political messaging to work. most people don't know what— messaging to work. most people don't know what a supermajority is, i'm not sure _ know what a supermajority is, i'm not sure i— know what a supermajority is, i'm not sure i do. what point does it become — not sure i do. what point does it become a — not sure i do. what point does it become a supermajority? i don't become a supermajority? idon't think— become a supermajority? idon't think keir— become a supermajority? i don't think keir starmer was think he doesn't — think keir starmer was think he doesn't have a mandate if he comes in with— doesn't have a mandate if he comes in with a _ doesn't have a mandate if he comes in with a 200 seat majority. nobody said that _ in with a 200 seat majority. nobody said that about boris johnson. in with a 200 seat majority. nobody said that about borisjohnson. he will say— said that about borisjohnson. he will say he — said that about borisjohnson. he will say he has a mandate to change the country — will say he has a mandate to change the country. people will accept that based _ the country. people will accept that based on _ the country. people will accept that based on the parliamentary maths | based on the parliamentary maths i don't based on the parliamentary maths don't want based on the parliamentary maths j don't want to be on the spot, annabel is saying this strategy is not necessarily wrong but has its difficulty, jack is saying you just don't think it is working. what would be your messaging with just a couple of days left if you were rishi sunak? {3h couple of days left if you were rishi sunak?— couple of days left if you were rishi sunak? , .,, ., , ., �* rishi sunak? oh my gosh, now you're askin: me rishi sunak? oh my gosh, now you're asking me a — rishi sunak? oh my gosh, now you're asking me a difficult _ rishi sunak? oh my gosh, now you're asking me a difficult question. - asking me a difficult question. there — asking me a difficult question. there is— asking me a difficult question. there is nothing he can say. he hasn't — there is nothing he can say. he hasn't got — there is nothing he can say. he hasn't got a _ there is nothing he can say. he hasn't got a leg left to stand on and he — hasn't got a leg left to stand on and he knows it. there isn't a strong — and he knows it. there isn't a strong conservative message. he had a strong _ strong conservative message. he had a strong case to make 18 months ago when _ a strong case to make 18 months ago when he _ a strong case to make 18 months ago when he became prime minister, this was a _ when he became prime minister, this was a clean _ when he became prime minister, this was a clean sweep, i am the change candidate, _ was a clean sweep, i am the change candidate, he should have drawn a clear— candidate, he should have drawn a clear line _ candidate, he should have drawn a clear line between himself and the former— clear line between himself and the former prime minister, who is disliked, — former prime minister, who is disliked, despised and ijoke around the country— disliked, despised and ijoke around the country and he failed to do that _ the country and he failed to do that he — the country and he failed to do that. he went to a fudged unity message — that. he went to a fudged unity message at that point and it means that every— message at that point and it means that every time labour talk about liz that every time labour talk about liz truss. — that every time labour talk about liz truss, the tory's vote goes down again _ liz truss, the tory's vote goes down again he _ liz truss, the tory's vote goes down again he is— liz truss, the tory's vote goes down again. he is trying to make a argument _ again. he is trying to make a argument too late now, it's too late to learn _ argument too late now, it's too late to learn that message. he has missed the boat. _ to learn that message. he has missed the boat, that ship sailed a long time _ the boat, that ship sailed a long time ago — the boat, that ship sailed a long time auo. , ., time ago. very well handled there, with me throwing _ time ago. very well handled there, with me throwing you _ time ago. very well handled there, with me throwing you an _ time ago. very well handled there, | with me throwing you an impossible with me throwing you an impossible question. annabel, iwant with me throwing you an impossible question. annabel, i want to pick up another thought there, the timing of the election, asking why he called at six months before he had to. do you think the reflections will be that he should have waited? absolutely, without a shadow of a doubt. many conservative backbenchers said on may 22 that they were not prepared for a general election. they hadn't even selected over 100 candidates for and a general election to take place that was the expectation it would be in the autumn, that by then the net migration figures would have come down, the economy would be improving further than it has already, the bank of england may have begun to cut interest rates in august, that would have fed through, people would have felt as though the cost of living crisis was starting to abate. there would have been macro indicators that would have been improving later on this year, the question will remain, why? why did rishi sunak decide to choose this moment to do it, was he trying to neutralise the threat of the reform party, before faris emerged. it didn't work. did he hope that perhaps the labour party were more unprepared than they have turned out to be? i wonder whether the conservative back —— party thought they could roll the dice. perhaps they could roll the dice. perhaps they thought the more people saw of they thought the more people saw of the labour party, the more they drew the labour party, the more they drew the labour party on their policies, the labour party on their policies, the less the public would like it. that hasn't worked, keir starmer hasn't been especially for coming of the details stop perhaps it was just a case that on the day they had that good set of inflation data, the first set of good news in some time and decided to go for it. it would have taken a few weeks of planning before that. it is a question we will be asking for many weeks, months and years from now. underlining that not a single vote has been cast yet. thank you both for that, just to underline that our political editor will be following keir starmer around tomorrow so we will delve more into labour's messaging in 2a hours' time. let's look at some other parties. their liberal democrat leader has been proving he has a for heights. look at this. there he goes. this is the latest stunt from ed davey. a bungee jump. why is the question? he says he is urging voters to take a leap of faith and back his party on thursday. as for the snp, not as dramatic. john swinney here said that the party will always put the interests of scotland first as he visited peterhead fish market. he said the conservatives were moved decisively to labour. let's start with the lib dems first of all, jack, i don't know where you want to go with bungeejumps jack, i don't know where you want to go with bungee jumps and leaders jack, i don't know where you want to go with bungeejumps and leaders in messaging. les go with bungee 'umps and leaders in messauuin. , �* , ., messaging. les bickley, all the thins messaging. les bickley, all the thin . s we messaging. les bickley, all the things we are _ messaging. les bickley, all the things we are seeing _ messaging. les bickley, all the things we are seeing all - messaging. les bickley, all the things we are seeing all the i messaging. les bickley, all the l things we are seeing all the party leaders _ things we are seeing all the party leaders do at the moment are completely false. they are ridiculous stunts, just different stunts — ridiculous stunts, just different stunts. you saw ridiculous stunts, just different stunts. you sanohn swinney in a fish market — stunts. you sanohn swinney in a fish market. he was there to look serious _ fish market. he was there to look serious and — fish market. he was there to look serious and walk around for the snp. the stuff— serious and walk around for the snp. the stuff that ed davey is doing is overtly _ the stuff that ed davey is doing is overtly ridiculous but he is doing it to catch — overtly ridiculous but he is doing it to catch our attention and get us talking _ it to catch our attention and get us talking about the lib dems, something that nobody has done for years _ something that nobody has done for years i_ something that nobody has done for years. i would say it has been reasonably effective. it's a bit silly. — reasonably effective. it's a bit silly. but— reasonably effective. it's a bit silly, but he would argue this is what _ silly, but he would argue this is what he — silly, but he would argue this is what he has to do that to get his party— what he has to do that to get his party notice and look different from the candidates. everyone can see they are — the candidates. everyone can see they are stunts but i think it has been _ they are stunts but i think it has been 0k~ — they are stunts but i think it has been 0k. they have some serious messaging — been 0k. they have some serious messaging about policy to talk about — messaging about policy to talk about. 0k, nobody is talking about it very— about. 0k, nobody is talking about it very much, but who has been talking — it very much, but who has been talking about policy in this campaign at all? we have talked about— campaign at all? we have talked about dj. — campaign at all? we have talked about dj, gambling and other gaffes, we have _ about dj, gambling and other gaffes, we have talked about polling but we haven't _ we have talked about polling but we haven't spent much time talking about— haven't spent much time talking about the — haven't spent much time talking about the issues facing britain and their solution. we shouldn't talk about— their solution. we shouldn't talk about the — their solution. we shouldn't talk about the lib dems and criticise them _ about the lib dems and criticise them more for getting notice, they have put— them more for getting notice, they have put a — them more for getting notice, they have put a smile on our faces in a long _ have put a smile on our faces in a long election campaign. annabel, what ou long election campaign. annabel, what you think? _ long election campaign. annabel, what you think? i _ long election campaign. annabel, what you think? i am _ long election campaign. annabel, what you think? i am more i long election campaign. annabel, . what you think? i am more cynical. it is what you think? i am more cynical. it is more — what you think? i am more cynical. it is more striking _ what you think? i am more cynical. it is more striking footage - what you think? i am more cynical. it is more striking footage seeing l it is more striking footage seeing ed davey doing a bungeejumping. you couldn't pay me any amount of money to do that. it's more interesting than seenjohn swinney in a white coat or rishi sunak in a hard hat and hi vis jackets. i imagine conservatives thought they wouldn't get notice and they have attracted some headlines with these stunts. they may say there is no such thing with bad publicity but some of the lib dems things have been quite silly. are people supposed to take the party seriously if they don't take itself seriously? some polls do have the lib dems getting over a0 seats, they got 57 in 2010 and then had a very bruising election in 2019 when their leader lost her seat and they were down to 12 in total. there will be some sort of liberal democrat recovery in the selection, the question will be is that down to the question will be is that down to the campaign, with its many activities, or will it be down to the fact that voters have turned away from the conservative party, perhaps they are not comfortable with voting for any of the other parties. with voting for any of the other arties. ~ . parties. we will see indeed, we will be back with _ parties. we will see indeed, we will be back with both _ parties. we will see indeed, we will be back with both our— parties. we will see indeed, we will be back with both our panellists i parties. we will see indeed, we will be back with both our panellists in i be back with both our panellists in just a second. this is bbc news. hello there. we've seen a good deal of cloud heading our way today, bringing with it some rain here and there as well. and, really, through the rest of this week, it's very changeable. not particularly what we'd expect at this time of the year — cloud, some rain at times, mainly in the west, a cooler breeze keeping temperatures below average as well. and it's notjust on the cooler side here in the uk. you can see from the temperature anomaly map, we've got the cooler blues across many parts of europe. the hotter weather is more across eastern areas and temperatures may build a bit across iberia. but our weather is going to be coming in from the atlantic, which is why western areas will see most of the rain. we've had this band of cloud here on this weather front. it's been taking some rain eastwards today, mainly affecting the northern half of the uk. that weather front will be weakening overnight tonight, taking some thicker cloud, more across eastern and for a while southern parts of england, with a little rain here and there but not very much. clearer skies will follow towards the north—west, in scotland and northern ireland, and here, we could see temperatures perhaps in rural areas as low as seven or eight degrees. temperatures will be higher where we've got that cloud across eastern parts of england. in the morning, it could still produce a little light rain or drizzle here and there. elsewhere, there'll be some sunshine for a while, cloud will bubble up. we'll see more showers breaking out across the northern half of the uk, perhaps merging into longer spells of rain in the afternoon in western scotland and later into northern ireland. and that will limit the temperatures here to around about 16 degrees, but could make 20 again across southern england and south wales. and it shouldn't feel too bad here. but we've got more weather systems coming in from the atlantic overnight and into wednesday, stronger winds behind that as well. now, that's going to leave us with quite a messy picture, i think, on wednesday — a lot of cloud, some rain from time to time, nothing particularly heavy or prolonged. and for scotland and northern ireland, it'll be followed by some sunshine and some showers as well. and again, those temperatures reaching 16, 17, possibly 18 degrees. but that's a little below average, certainly for this time of the year. low pressure running to the north of the uk will bring some stronger winds on thursday. the next system may well bring some rain into england and wales, the southern half of the uk. the position of that rain could change, but essentially, through the week, it's still rather mixed weather. temperatures are disappointing for the time of year. there'll be some sunshine in between the cloud and the rain. hello, i'm lewis vaughanjones. you're watching the context on bbc news. france prepares for a second round of parliamentary elections, with national rally leading. president macron is urging unity to prevent a far—right victory. hundreds of thousands of young people are eligible to vote in the uk election for the first time this year. but only around half of all 18—2a—year—olds voted in the last election in 2019 — so how engaged will they be this time round? bbc news has teamed up with radio 1's newsbeat who are doing a "race across the uk" — stopping at locations, known as checkpoints, some picked by listeners. jordan kenny reports from one of those checkpoints in newcastle. there are around five million 18—2a—year—olds in the uk,

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