scandal later today. between 1999 and 2015 hundreds of sub—postmasters were wrongly prosecuted due to faulty software. it's the first time she'll publicly speak about her role in the scandal for nearly a decade. our business correspondent emma simpson has the details. it's 2012, and paula vennells is in herfirst year as the new boss of the post office. she's already spent half a decade with the business. and here she's on a visit to the shop floor. retail is detail. i don't know whoever it was that said that, but it is that. and you come to places like this and you find out the little things that make the operation much more efficient. back then, the post office was haemorrhaging money. the pressure is on to turn things around. but did she put profits before people? there's a sack full of questions waiting for her now. lee bought the bridlington branch in 2003. the losses soon began. here he is after the post office made him bankrupt with huge legal costs as they pursued him in court. so important for me personally that i understand. 20 years on, hejust wants some answers. i'm not looking for her to be crucified or anything like that. i'm just looking for the truth. why, who, what, when? ijust need to understand just to help me in myjourney. politicians had plenty of dealings with paula vennells, too. i don't expect there to be many gotcha moments because her solicitors are very good. lord arbuthnot played a key role, putting pressure on the post office to come clean. the inquiry�*s likely to ask about this appearance before mps when she defended the faulty horizon it system. if there had been any miscarriages ofjustice, it would have been really important to me and the post office that we actually surface those and as the investigations have gone through so far, we've had no evidence of that. she must have known of the clerk advice which referred to one fujitsu witness who had misled the court and who has now been referred to the metropolitan police in view of some of the evidence that he gave. and how did she square what she said in 2015 with what the barrister had told her and the rest of the post office in 2013? in guildford, a theatre fills up with people who've come to hear more about the scandal. they're here to listen to the journalist who has spent years helping expose the truth. for him, leadership or lack of it is key. if your business prosecutes people, prosecuting people is the most important part of your business and you need to be all over it. and i don't think she was. she relied on post office loyalists and highly paid legal advisers to tell her the truth she wanted to hear. and i think now it's time that we heard the actual truth from her. the stage now set for the biggest moment in the public inquiry. paula vennells' solicitors say she's focused on cooperating with it, breaking her silence for the first time in almost a decade. emma simpson, bbc news. ben boulos is in central london for us this morning ahead of paula vennells giving evidence. what can we expect this morning, ben? it's a hugely significant day because it's the first time paula venabies — because it's the first time paula venables will have spoken publicly about _ venables will have spoken publicly about what has happened in almost a decade _ about what has happened in almost a decade -- _ about what has happened in almost a decade —— vennells. as we heard from the report— decade —— vennells. as we heard from the report from emma, mrs vennells was in _ the report from emma, mrs vennells was in charge of the post chief executive, and during that time wrongful— executive, and during that time wrongful prosecution is continued against _ wrongful prosecution is continued against innocent sub—postmaster is. during _ against innocent sub—postmaster is. during that — against innocent sub—postmaster is. during that time evidence was growing — during that time evidence was growing was starting to emerge that the horizon it system provided by foiitsu _ the horizon it system provided by fujitsu was faulty. and during the period _ fujitsu was faulty. and during the period in— fujitsu was faulty. and during the period in 2019, the high court ruled there _ period in 2019, the high court ruled there were — period in 2019, the high court ruled there were problems with the accounting system, so here are some of the _ accounting system, so here are some of the key— accounting system, so here are some of the key questions paula vennells ntight— of the key questions paula vennells might face. when did she know that those _ might face. when did she know that those accounts could be accessed remotely — those accounts could be accessed remotely unchanged without the knowledge of sub—postmasters? did she teti— knowledge of sub—postmasters? did she tell the truth to parliament in 2015 when — she tell the truth to parliament in 2015 when she told mps on the business — 2015 when she told mps on the business select committee she had seen no _ business select committee she had seen no evidence of miscarriages of justice _ seen no evidence of miscarriages of justice as — seen no evidence of miscarriages of justice. as chief executive of the organisation, why didn't she do more to find _ organisation, why didn't she do more to find out— organisation, why didn't she do more to find out what was going on? and why did _ to find out what was going on? and why did she — to find out what was going on? and why did she allow the post offices to take _ why did she allow the post offices to take the sub—postmasters to court and spent _ to take the sub—postmasters to court and spent hundreds of millions of pounds _ and spent hundreds of millions of pounds defending the legal challenge brought— pounds defending the legal challenge brought against the organisation what _ brought against the organisation what conversations went on behind closed _ what conversations went on behind closed doors? the post office is owned _ closed doors? the post office is owned by— closed doors? the post office is owned by the government and we do not know— owned by the government and we do not know what conversations and information was shared by ministers and post _ information was shared by ministers and post office bosses. all of those questions _ and post office bosses. all of those questions and many more are likely to be _ questions and many more are likely to be out— questions and many more are likely to be out to — questions and many more are likely to be put to her in the coming days. we expect paula vennells to turn up at the inquiry while we are on air and we will go back to ben and there will be full coverage across the bbc news in the next couple of days. it news in the next couple of days. it will be a busy programme. in around an hour, we'll find out the latest inflation figures. nina's keeping an eye on this for us — what are we expecting? we might be expecting a big moment, actually, _ we might be expecting a big moment, actually, which would be inflation hitting _ actually, which would be inflation hitting the point that the bank of england — hitting the point that the bank of england would like to see it at, and that is— england would like to see it at, and that is the — england would like to see it at, and that is the measure of how quickly prices _ that is the measure of how quickly prices are — that is the measure of how quickly prices are rising, including everything from supermarket shops to energy— everything from supermarket shops to energy bills, to filling up the car or buying — energy bills, to filling up the car or buying a new telly. remember it leaped to 11.1% in october 2022 — when energy prices rocketed — this was a 40 year high and it was a shock to every household. but it has been slowing down since. last month — to its lowest rate since then — remember it hit 3.2%? although we are still needing a sitdown when we hit the supermarket tills and it's still way above the bank of england's target of 2% — that's where price rises are seen as healthy — growth that's under control. if we get back there today, it could signal to the bank of england that it's time to bring down interest rates. that could see mortgage prices drop. but don't expect immediate relief. you can see the good side in regard to energy— you can see the good side in regard to energy prices _ you can see the good side in regard to energy prices which _ you can see the good side in regard to energy prices which we _ you can see the good side in regard to energy prices which we have - you can see the good side in regardl to energy prices which we have seen come _ to energy prices which we have seen come down — to energy prices which we have seen come down and _ to energy prices which we have seen come down and continue _ to energy prices which we have seen come down and continue to - to energy prices which we have seen come down and continue to fall - to energy prices which we have seenl come down and continue to fall which nfeans_ come down and continue to fall which means the _ come down and continue to fall which means the average _ come down and continue to fall which means the average person _ come down and continue to fall which means the average person might- come down and continue to fall whichi means the average person might have an extra _ means the average person might have an extra 20 _ means the average person might have an extra 20 or— means the average person might have an extra 20 or £40 _ means the average person might have an extra 20 or £40 per— means the average person might have an extra 20 or £40 per month - means the average person might have an extra 20 or £40 per month but - means the average person might have an extra 20 or £40 per month but the| an extra 20 or £40 per month but the reality— an extra 20 or £40 per month but the reality is— an extra 20 or £40 per month but the reality is most— an extra 20 or £40 per month but the reality is most of— an extra 20 or £40 per month but the reality is most of the _ an extra 20 or £40 per month but the reality is most of the household - reality is most of the household bills have — reality is most of the household bills have gone _ reality is most of the household bills have gone up _ reality is most of the household bills have gone up so _ reality is most of the household bills have gone up so for- reality is most of the household bills have gone up so for most i bills have gone up so for most people — bills have gone up so for most people they— bills have gone up so for most people they are _ bills have gone up so for most people they are still— bills have gone up so for most people they are still in - bills have gone up so for most people they are still in a - bills have gone up so for most people they are still in a placej people they are still in a place where — people they are still in a place where they— people they are still in a place where they are _ people they are still in a place where they are still _ people they are still in a placei where they are still struggling, people they are still in a place - where they are still struggling, the cost of— where they are still struggling, the cost of living — where they are still struggling, the cost of living is _ where they are still struggling, the cost of living is still— where they are still struggling, the cost of living is still too _ where they are still struggling, the cost of living is still too high - where they are still struggling, the cost of living is still too high for. cost of living is still too high for the average _ cost of living is still too high for the average person _ cost of living is still too high for the average person and - cost of living is still too high for the average person and it - cost of living is still too high for the average person and it is - the average person and it is something _ the average person and it is something that _ the average person and it is something that there - the average person and it is something that there is - the average person and it is something that there is still the average person and it is i something that there is still a the average person and it is - something that there is still a lot of work— something that there is still a lot of work that— something that there is still a lot of work that needs _ something that there is still a lot of work that needs to _ something that there is still a lot of work that needs to be - something that there is still a lot of work that needs to be done. . of work that needs to be done. sally. — of work that needs to be done. sally. seven— of work that needs to be done. sally, seven o'clock _ of work that needs to be done. sally, seven o'clock we - of work that needs to be done. sally, seven o'clock we find - of work that needs to be done. | sally, seven o'clock we find out of work that needs to be done. . sally, seven o'clock we find out if inflation — sally, seven o'clock we find out if inflation has hit the 2% that we always— inflation has hit the 2% that we always use as a mark of good health. if so always use as a mark of good health. if so it _ always use as a mark of good health. if so it will— always use as a mark of good health. if so it will feel symbolic for now but it _ if so it will feel symbolic for now but it is— if so it will feel symbolic for now but it is a — if so it will feel symbolic for now but it is a signal we are returning to some — but it is a signal we are returning to some sense of normal and that life, hopefully is set to be more affordable. we will keep our eye on that _ affordable. we will keep our eye on that. ., ~ affordable. we will keep our eye on that. . ,, , ., ., tributes have been paid to a 73—year—old british man who died when a singapore airlines flight from london hit severe turbulence and dropped around 6,000 feet within four minutes. dozens of injured passengers — and some crew — are still receiving medical treatment in thailand, but most of those onboard have finally arrived in singapore. our reporter paul hawkins has more. relief and gratitude at changi airport. over 140 airline staff and passengers finally completing their nightmare journey, including this student. i didn't understand at all the full scale of what happened until we landed. like, i didn't realise the things that broke within the airplane, the dents that were made in overhead luggage compartments, and all the additional kind of paneling above our heads. like, i thought it was just the oxygen masks coming out and then popping out the panel. but in fact, like heads had literally pushed through and broken those plastic panels. and like, there'sjust blood and there's bits and pieces just broken everywhere. this was how some left the boeing 777 after it was forced to land in bangkok. some in a critical condition while dozens were injured during sudden severe air turbulence. tough day. definitely, yes. worst in my life, actually. suddenly that plane plunged. i don't know how far, but it they said 6000 feet. it didn't seem like 6000 feet, but it was a long way. and so sudden — there was no warning at all. and i ended up hitting my head on the ceiling. my wife did. some poor people who were walking around, ended up doing somersaults. 73 year old geoff kitchen from gloucestershire wasn't so fortunate. the retired insurance man died from a heart attack. his theatre group describing him as a gentleman with honesty and integrity. the flight with 229 people on board left london late on monday night, bound for singapore. but on the final leg near the myanmar coast, it ran into difficulty. dozens are still being treated for their injuries in bangkok. an investigation is underway. paul hawkins, bbc news. our correspondent monica miller is at singapore airport, where many of the passengers and crew were taken. monica, what's the latest on those who were injured? ican i can tell you right now that this old school — i can tell you right now that this old school newspaper, front page, front _ old school newspaper, front page, front fold. — old school newspaper, front page, front fold, this is what people are talking _ front fold, this is what people are talking about in singapore. as you can see, _ talking about in singapore. as you can see, i'm — talking about in singapore. as you can see, i'm not at the airport but iam— can see, i'm not at the airport but lam in— can see, i'm not at the airport but lam inthe— can see, i'm not at the airport but i am in the centre of the city where tourists— i am in the centre of the city where tourists are — i am in the centre of the city where tourists are here taking pictures. this is— tourists are here taking pictures. this is an — tourists are here taking pictures. this is an iconic spot at the marina bay sands — this is an iconic spot at the marina bay sands casino behind us and a place _ bay sands casino behind us and a place where many tourists come and sometimes — place where many tourists come and sometimes this is their final destination but many move on and it's a _ destination but many move on and it's a pit— destination but many move on and it's a pit stop as they head to australia _ it's a pit stop as they head to australia and places like bali and indonesia — australia and places like bali and indonesia which is what some of the passengers — indonesia which is what some of the passengers were doing on that uneventful flight as it started out which _ uneventful flight as it started out which ended in an emergency landing in bangkok, but in terms of where the passengers are, just a few hours a-o the passengers are, just a few hours ago my— the passengers are, just a few hours ago my team and i were at the airport— ago my team and i were at the airport and we were quite far from many— airport and we were quite far from many of— airport and we were quite far from many of passengers getting off the plane _ many of passengers getting off the plane but we could visibly how exhausted they were and some were greeted _ exhausted they were and some were greeted try— exhausted they were and some were greeted by family members and it was an incredibly emotional tie with a lot of— an incredibly emotional tie with a lot of hugs and tears and we did try to reach— lot of hugs and tears and we did try to reach out— lot of hugs and tears and we did try to reach out to one of them asking how you _ to reach out to one of them asking how you feel and she said i'm just -lad how you feel and she said i'm just glad to— how you feel and she said i'm just glad to be — how you feel and she said i'm just glad to be alive. how you feel and she said i'm “ust glad to be alivei how you feel and she said i'm 'ust glad to be alive. monitor, thank you ve much glad to be alive. monitor, thank you very much indeed. _ a former royal marine charged with assisting the hong kong intelligence service has been found dead in a park in maidenhead. 37—year—old matthew trickett, who was a home office immigration officer, appeared in court last week, charged under the national security act. his death is being treated as unexplained. wylfe in anglesey has been chosen by the government as the preferred site for a large—scale nuclear power plant, similar to that at hinkley in somerset. the japanese firm hitachi suspended plans to build on the site in 2019, after it failed to secure government funding. ministers said the site would provide thousands ofjobs. a nursery nurse will be sentenced today for the manslaughter of a baby girl at tiny toes nursery in stockport in may 2022. kate roughley strapped nine—month—old genevieve meehan face down to a beanbag and left herfor 90 minutes. police in england have been told to consider making fewer arrests, because of a lack of space in prisons. in a letter seen by the bbc, the national police chiefs council warns forces that the current situation is unsustainable. our chief political correspondent, henry zeffman is in westminster for us this morning. henry, how has this news gone down amongst mps? the current situation unsustainable. an interesting word. very serious, potentially. there's nothing more important to the political parties particularly in a general election year than being seen to keep the public safe and this growing pressure on prisons in england is really concerning people here in westminster. what this is as a letter from the national police chief counsel that coordinates activities between forces and it was sent ten days or so ago and went out to all of the police forces and it suggested that the chief constables think about pausing what they called non—priority arrest. consideration has been given to pausing non—priority arrests and any planned operations where large numbers of arrests might take place to ease the pressure in the criminaljustice system, so the letter to chief constables were saying that the prisons are so for that they should consider delaying arrests of people who they might otherwise arrest for fear they might end up having to be held in custody and increase the pressure on prisons. this letter was circulated at around the same time the government triggered something called operation early dawn, another measure designed to ease the pressure on prisons by delaying some magistrates earrings, so you can see from each end of the system the pressure on prison places is increasing and the government spokesperson said last night the public safety will always be first priority but acknowledge they continue to see pressure on jails following the impact of the pandemic and the barristers strike. a year—long investigation has found that more than a thousand workers may have died from ill—treatment during germany's occupation of alderney in world war two. around 7,000 prisoners from 27 countries were shipped to the channel island to build the bunkers of hitler's so—called atlantic wall. it was previously concluded that just under 400 had died. our reporter robert hall has more. well over 7000 prisoners from 27 countries were shipped to alderney during five years of german occupation. the regime was inhuman. the prisoners were there to work. if they faltered through starvation or exhaustion, they were beaten or killed. as a small child, i used to go to alderney and with my father. he witnessed the execution of a young soviet boy for changing cement bags on his feet. he was shot at point blank range, by an ss guard, and he also witnessed a hanging. i believe it was in sylt camp. and they would be brought to the burial side more often than not be buried using the false bottom coffin, which could then be reused, obviously, for succeeding burials. after alderney was liberated, british intelligence officers came to the island. they interviewed thousands of former prisoners and german soldiers. and based on that evidence, they estimated that around 400 slave workers had been buried here on this common. the pickles inquiry is expected to revise that figure to nearer 1,000. some graves contained more than one body and in one or two instances, allegedly up to four or five bodies. alderney had been evacuated before the germans arrived. departing prisoners of war shared vital evidence, but few of the guilty were ever brought to justice. i can't feel any anger. towards those people. what a terrible, depraved mindset i you must be in to do such thingsl to your fellow human being. this community has never forgotten its past. now islanders must consider how to mark a reshaped chapter of their wartime history. robert hall, bbc news, alderney. if you were watching on monday, you might remember we were talking about imogen boddy — who was hoping to make history by becoming the fastest person ever to complete the national three peaks challenge. well, she's done it! over six days, five hours and 43 minutes she climbed the uk's highest mountains, running 420 miles between them — the equivalent of 16 marathons back—to—back. and she managed to take an impressive 18 hours off the previous record. i look, she is still not stopping. maybe she is going for a well—deserved swim. maybe she is going for a well-deserved swim. ,., , , well-deserved swim. somebody needs to tell her she — well-deserved swim. somebody needs to tell her she can _ well-deserved swim. somebody needs to tell her she can stop _ well-deserved swim. somebody needs to tell her she can stop now. _ well-deserved swim. somebody needs to tell her she can stop now. that's - to tell her she can stop now. that's the moment _ to tell her she can stop now. that's the moment. just _ to tell her she can stop now. that's the moment. just don't _ to tell her she can stop now. that's the moment. just don't drink- to tell her she can stop now. that's the moment. just don't drink it. - the moment. just don't drink it. sunny when she finished, probably glad she did it then, carol. tudor; glad she did it then, carol. today we have torrential— glad she did it then, carol. today we have torrential rain _ glad she did it then, carol. today we have torrential rain and - glad she did it then, carol. today we have torrential rain and a - glad she did it then, carol. today we have torrential rain and a risk| we have torrential rain and a risk of localised — we have torrential rain and a risk of localised flooding and the weather is a dogs breakfast is probably— weather is a dogs breakfast is probably the best way to describe it. probably the best way to describe it good _ probably the best way to describe it. good morning. this morning we have _ it. good morning. this morning we have heavy— it. good morning. this morning we have heavy and persistent rain that's— have heavy and persistent rain that's been coming in from the south through— that's been coming in from the south through the — that's been coming in from the south through the course of the night and will continue to push north and west — will continue to push north and west this— will continue to push north and west. this morning it's not raining as much— west. this morning it's not raining as much across parts of scotland and northern _ as much across parts of scotland and northern ireland and we have some showers _ northern ireland and we have some showers which you can see where we have heavy— showers which you can see where we have heavy and persistent rain pushing — have heavy and persistent rain pushing up towards the north and west of— pushing up towards the north and west of the country. to the south of it you _ west of the country. to the south of it you will _ west of the country. to the south of it you will find there will be further— it you will find there will be further showers and these could be thundery— further showers and these could be thundery with heavy downpours coming out of _ thundery with heavy downpours coming out of those and for northern ireland — out of those and for northern ireland and scotland, a lot of cloud with showers and that could be quite potent _ with showers and that could be quite potent on _ with showers and that could be quite potent on the rain eventually arriving — potent on the rain eventually arriving in scotland and clipping eastern — arriving in scotland and clipping eastern parts of northern ireland. the wind — eastern parts of northern ireland. the wind is — eastern parts of northern ireland. the wind is picking up across the west— the wind is picking up across the west coast— the wind is picking up across the west coast of scotland on the coast of northern ireland in particular. temperatures today ranging from 14 in the _ temperatures today ranging from 14 in the north to 18 in the south but if you _ in the north to 18 in the south but if you are — in the north to 18 in the south but if you are stuck under the cloud and rain the _ if you are stuck under the cloud and rain the temperature won't get much higher— rain the temperature won't get much higher than— rain the temperature won't get much higher than at the moment, looking roughly— higher than at the moment, looking roughly about 14 at best and with the cloud — roughly about 14 at best and with the cloud and rain. through the evening — the cloud and rain. through the evening and overnight it continues to advance — evening and overnight it continues to advance northwards and west and still some _ to advance northwards and west and still some heavy and persistent rain on the _ still some heavy and persistent rain on the wind — still some heavy and persistent rain on the wind picking up on a lot of cloud _ on the wind picking up on a lot of cloud and — on the wind picking up on a lot of cloud and murkiness in the coasts and hills, — cloud and murkiness in the coasts and hills, but it won't be a cold night _ and hills, but it won't be a cold night and — and hills, but it won't be a cold night and all this will help maintain the temperature between ei-ht maintain the temperature between eight and _ maintain the temperature between eight and 12 degrees. as we head into tomorrow the low pressure driving — into tomorrow the low pressure driving the weather still producing this rain— driving the weather still producing this rain and across scotland and northern— this rain and across scotland and northern ireland and northern england — northern ireland and northern england and wales further south it looks— england and wales further south it looks like — england and wales further south it looks like it will be drier and trrighter— looks like it will be drier and brighter but you see the odd lighter shower— brighter but you see the odd lighter shower and it will be a windy day and these — shower and it will be a windy day and these are the temperatures tomorrow, 13 in the north to 18 in the south — tomorrow, 13 in the north to 18 in the south but then it improves. not so much of — the south but then it improves. not so much of a _ the south but then it improves. iirrt so much of a dogs breakfast. the south but then it improves. not so much of a dogs breakfast. a - the south but then it improves. not| so much of a dogs breakfast. a dogs bank holiday — so much of a dogs breakfast. a dogs bank holiday weekend. _ so much of a dogs breakfast. a dogs bank holiday weekend. we - so much of a dogs breakfast. a dogs bank holiday weekend. we will - so much of a dogs breakfast. a dogs bank holiday weekend. we will find l bank holiday weekend. we will find out later. hat bank holiday weekend. we will find out later. ., ., ., ~' bank holiday weekend. we will find out later. ., ., ., ,, ., ., out later. not looking too bad them, actuall . out later. not looking too bad them, actually- carol. _ out later. not looking too bad them, actually. carol, thank _ out later. not looking too bad them, actually. carol, thank you. _ the conservative mp — craig mackinlay — is returning to parliament for the first time today, after losing his hands and feet to sepsis. when craig was rushed to hospital last year, he was given just a five percent chance of survival, and put into an induced coma. now back home and using prosthetic limbs, he's been speaking to our political correspondent, helen catt. here she comes, olivia, they're going to come and say hello. what did you think? what do you think of them? you can — look — and close them and open them. for his daughter, craig mckinlay calls them his magic hands. he's only got these new prosthetics this week. this is the first time that olivia has seen them. stop! it won't work! hey, i think you turned it off. oh, it's still working, right? let's get on the swing. i think children are just so remarkably adjustable. she adapted to it very easily and probably better than everybody else, frankly. but that's what they do. kiss, kiss, daddy. and this is a family which has had a lot to adjust to since that day in september, when craig was taken into hospital after feeling a little unwell. within about half an hour, i went this very, very strange blue. top to bottom, ears, everything blue. it's when you're having a a very severe sort of septic event. and they knew what it was and they pretty much immediately put me into an induced coma. and for the next 16 days i was in dreamland. my wife being told within a few hours is one of the earliest people we see in this hospital and prepare for the worst. but surviving was just the start. i remember coming to and there was discussions happening about these arms and legs, because by then they had turned black. i've never seen anything like it in my life, but they say frostbite is a bit like that, but you get frostbite in a few fingers. i had frostbite, it was effectively up to elbow and just below my knee. how do you cope with that psychologically? i was surprisingly stoic about it, actually. i don't know why i was. again, might be the various cocktail of drugs i was on. but i wasn't upset about it. i had sort of acceptance that these these things are dead and they're going to come off some time. craig's hands and feet were amputated on the 1st of december this year brought more surgery and learning to use his prosthetic legs. trying to run before i could walk. so i wasn't ever worried about the legs, was the hands. because we don't realize how much you do with your hands. that dexterity isjust amazing, to use your phone, hold the hand of your child, touch your wife. do the garden. it's all these things. 0r cooking. and i love cooking. and i'm hoping with these amazing things, i'll be able to get somewhere towards it. but it's never going to be quite the same, obviously. there we go. none of this would work without my wife. all of those things that people who are very severely disabled need doing for them, my wife has been doing and i wouldn't be where i am today without her. we knew the first few days . was very much touch and go. in hospital, koti was by his bedside every day, playing him audiobooks and his favorite music. i think it was about the fifth day when the first time calypso, he| sort of mimics. 0k. ijust knew he would probably. somewhere down deep listening and hearing me. so if i'm there and just assuring that things would be ok... - and, uh.,, it's just there was not any other option. - you hear people always bring in music or someone celebrity comes in to see children in a coma. it does work. you are listening. those ears do listen, even if in the depths of a coma. the couple are optimistic about the future, especially now craig has his new hands. you can do a little function, which then makes them do something entirely different. so that's how they're meant to work. and how is that? how are you telling it to do this? it's literally the muscle on the outside open. so you're doing a little muscle twitch and on the inside it's closed. so it's as simple as that. and it's also driven, including a really clever one, which i think i'll have to be using on wednesday, a handshake one. he returns to westminster then with new issues to campaign on and perhaps a slightly different outlook. i think it's made me think a bit differently about life. we all probably spend too much time in westminster away from family chasing this, that and the other. where you now, after this, realise the important things are family. having been very close to death, i'm now not likely to die. so life is now the important thing. i think there will be a queue of people waiting today to shake that hand. let's take a look at today's papers. the mirror carries the headline �*terror in the sky', reporting on the death of pensioner geoff kitchen, who died after the plane he was on dropped six thousand feet during severe turbulence. the times reports that police are being told to make fewer arrests because of the shortage of space in prisons. the paper says it's seen an internal document, urging chief constables to consider pausing "non priority arrests" until there is enough capacity. the guardian says there's been a big increase in under 40s being diagnosed with type two diabetes. figures from diabetes uk show a 39 percent rise in six years, something it blames on a rise in obesity caused byjunk food and "stark inequalities". and the telegraph front page says the international monetary fund is urging the bank of england to cut interest rates three times this year, as inflation figures published within the next hour are expected to fall to 2%. nina is on standby. an interesting story in the times. we did the social media on children safety edition a couple of weeks ago and one of the ideas being talked about was esther saying she thinks smartphones should be banned for under 16. smartphones should be banned for under16. saint smartphones should be banned for under 16. saint aubyn is in hertfordshire wants to become the first city in the uk to go smartphone free for children under the age of 14 and they have head teachers from 20 local primary schools who have signed a letter to parents across the city, what is the phrasing, that parents should reset the expectations of their children and resist pressure and try to make sure they do not have a phone that can do anything other than texting and calling until they are 14 years old. it and calling until they are 14 years old. , , . ., ., , old. it is such a good idea. it is hard to enforce. _ old. it is such a good idea. it is hard to enforce. so _ old. it is such a good idea. it is hard to enforce. so in - old. it is such a good idea. it is hard to enforce. so in st - old. it is such a good idea. it is i hard to enforce. so in st albans, they want to lead the way. it’s they want to lead the way. it's because we — they want to lead the way. it's because we got some figures from ofcom a couple of weeks ago which said a third of children aged between five and seven are now using social media regularly unsupervised and that is the kind of thing they want to tackle, whether under 14—year—olds in sane organs are quite so keen. —— in saint old bones. kevin sinfield willjoin us in the studio to reveal the details of his latest challenge to raise money for mnd a very good morning from bbc london, i'm alice salfield. neighbours of a woman who was mauled to death by her two xl bully dogs in east london have paid tribute to her saying she was kind and loving. the victim has been named locally as angeline mahal. she was attacked on monday at her home in hornchurch. the two registered dogs were seized after being contained in a room. more than 100 people on five housing estates in south london have been told to look for somewhere else to live. the private tenants had moved onto estates which had been earmarked for regeneration and potential demolition by lambeth council. it says the homes were let on a short term basis and it would provide vital housing for homeless families. but tenants have accused the council of failing to be transparent, with one saying within months of agreeing to a renewal they were told the landlord wanted the property back. we've told them that this is our home, we want to make it our home, we are looking for a long—term home. yeah, i just felt fooled, because obviously ijust thought that they knew what's going on with the property since day one, they knew their intention and they've never been transparent. drivers are being warned to avoid albert bridge next week as it's closing for essential maintenance. the crossing which connects chelsea to battersea will be shut in both directions from tuesday until saturday. pedestrians and cyclists can still use it, but vehicles will have to follow a diversion. children at a school in north london have been crowned britain's funniest class. it's after a nationwide competition in the beano, which asked pupils to submit their bestjokes. year six at northside primary in finchley took the title with 42% of the vote and will now see their entry featured in the comic. and if you want to find out the winning joke you can head to our website! but now let's take a look at the tubes. we've got a part suspension on thejubilee line with no service between stratford and north greenwich currently. after all the rain, let's see what the weather's looking like today with kate. good morning. another unsettled day today. the rain not perhaps so persistent but we have some frequent, heavy, perhaps showers moving through. perhaps thundery showers moving through. the wind is a bit stronger today so they will race through fairly quickly. temperatures today getting up to just somewhere between 14 and 16 celsius so feeling a little chillier. overnight those daytime showers will fade, becoming dry, still quite cloudy at least for a time but we mightjust see that cloud break a little as we head through to dawn. the minimum temperature double figures, around 10 celsius. now, low pressurejust starts to shift northwards as we head through thursday. we may get a bit of cloud to start with but it should start to thin and break, it is a much drier day tomorrow. there is a small chance of a shower but largely dry and in the sunshine, temperatures still feeling quite cool, actually. still breezy tomorrow, the maximum just 17 celsius. as we head towards the end of the week, and into the bank holiday weekend, it is looking a little more settled and the temperature with those sunny spells getting back up to around 20 celsius. that's it, there's plenty more on the bbc news app. but now it's back to sally and jon. hello, this is breakfast with sally nugent and jon kay. in the next half an hour we'll find out the latest inflation figure. nina is here to tell us more. it's coming, the economy has been on a wild ride of the past 18 months or so, we came out of a and then russia invaded ukraine, that sent the value of energy soaring and as a result household energy bills, going to the supermarket, your mortgage, rent, everything went through the roof. nobody was protected. that peaked at 11% at autumn 2022. we have seen a gradual reduction toward something close to normal, the hope is we will get close to 2%, where the bankable —— bank of england will want in place to be and they will make a decision in the next few months to bring down interest rate or not which will affect mortgages. it will be a big moment for economists, whether it means anything to us immediately is questionable but it recognises a child along that businesses are already feeling as ben king has been finding out. the recipes haven't changed in 90 years at this traditional bakery in west sussex, but the cost of their ingredients has. flour prices, meat prices, energy prices all up. the cost of fat has doubled. that's put the squeeze on profits, but the end is in sight. prices aren't continuing to increase that much. they're definitely not coming down, that doesn't happen very often, but it does seem to feel like things are plateauing a little bit, and i'm really hoping to see that the pressure is eased a little bit and in the next few months we can start passing that on to our customer and our own employees as well, which is going to be brilliant for everyone. and officialfigures are telling the same story. a big cut in the ofgem energy price cap means gas and electricity bills are down for most of us. that makes for a big fall in the headline inflation number. meanwhile, prices for most other things, including food, are rising more slowly. i think it's peaked now, i don't find it's gone up any more, but it's increased by about 50% over the last year or two. everywhere i go, even if i pop in and have a coffee, it's, "how much?" i've changed some of my habits, so i don't buy something - that's gone up so much. i change it to something else and i can still manage - on my small pension. today's inflation number is the first of two that we get before the next time the bank of england's monetary policy committee meets to set interest rates again. and if both of those numbers show inflation coming down, as we expect, that makes it much more likely that they'll decide that the time has now come to start cutting interest rates. after nearly three years of soaring inflation, things are finally cooling off. but thatjust means prices are going up more slowly, not coming down. and for most of us, our standard of living is still not what it used to be. ben king, bbc news, rustington, west sussex. that's the thing as he was saying, even at 2%, things will feel sticky for a while, there will not be an immediate loosening of the belt. mortgages and rent will stay high, there will still be a sharp intake of breath every time we go to the supermarket, lots of people saying to me theyjust are not going on holiday because their savings have gone over the past 18 months. the newspaper is reporting this morning that the international monetary fund are the heading for a soft landing coming out of recession, so that means things are looking good, the economy is starting to grow, inflation is coming down and crucially, this is really important to economists, things are becoming under control, things are becoming predictable. although we are not going to feel immediate relief, long—term what that means for you and me is that our wages are going to come closer to price rises again, things will feel a lot easier in the coming months. by, things will feel a lot easier in the coming months.— things will feel a lot easier in the cominu months. �* , ., . . coming months. a bit more balanced. a sense that — coming months. a bit more balanced. a sense that we _ coming months. a bit more balanced. a sense that we can _ coming months. a bit more balanced. a sense that we can do _ coming months. a bit more balanced. a sense that we can do nice _ coming months. a bit more balanced. a sense that we can do nice things . a sense that we can do nice things again instead of bare essentials. brute again instead of bare essentials. we will again instead of bare essentials. - will get the figures at 7am, on standby? will get the figures at 7am, on standb ? , , ., standby? yes, sure am. and the _ standby? yes, sure am. and the chancellor- standby? yes, sure am. and the chancellor will. standby? yes, sure am. i and the chancellor will be standby? yes, sure am. - and the chancellor will be here standby? yes, sure am. _ and the chancellor will be here with us, jeremy hunt, at 7:30am. some breaking news in football last night, chetan will explain it to us. managerial moves. yes, chelsea are looking for a new boss. for the seventh time in five years, chelsea are looking for a new manager after mauricio pochettino parted company with the club last night by mutual consent. he'd spent much of what was an underwhelming season under pressure but a run of five successive wins at the end including at home to bournemouth on sunday meant they finished sixth in the premier league and qualified for europe. they lost the carabao cup final to a weakened liverpool side earlier this year, and went out of the fa cup at the semifinal stage to manchester city. the club's spent over £1 billion on players across the past couple of years. pochetino's understood to have departed on very amicable terms we're told after discussions with senior club officials. england manager gareth southgate has put sentiment aside when naming his provisional squad for this summers european championship in germany which is less than a month away. marcus rashford, raheem sterling and jordan henderson all miss out. there may well be questions about england in defence but in terms of forward players, the likes ofjude bellingham, phil foden, bukayo saka, harry kane, means there's an embarrassment of riches in attack and southgate can understand why his side are being talked up as potential winners. well, the next one is always the best chance, you know? i obviously played with a brilliant team in �*96, i was close to the group heading into 2004, 2006 when they had unbelievable squads. we've gone really close ourselves. so, yeah, of course it's great that when we took this over eight years ago, there wasn't a lot of enthusiasm for the team, there wasn't huge excitement about going to russia for the world cup. now there is, it's brilliant. and we want to embrace that, we are looking forward to it ourselves. scotland manager steve clarke will name his provisional squad for the euros later today. their opening game of the tournament is against the hosts germany on june the 14th. one man definitely going there is portugal star cristiano ronaldo. remember this? look away, wales fans. ronaldo here scoring in the semis in 2016. they went on to beat france in the final of course and lift the trophy. ronaldo, who's 39, is set to play in his 11th major international tournament and his sixth european championship. next to chaotic scenes at the giro d'italia where riders refused to take the planned route for the latest stage due to safety concerns, because of driving rain and snow in parts of the mountains which caused plenty of disruption and a three hour delay. riders eventually took the bus to a different start point. tadej pogacar extended his huge overall lead by picking up a fifth stage win of the race. britain's geraint thomas dropped to third overall. england's cricketers start a four—match t20 series against pakistan in leeds later today, although the weather forecast isn't looking great. jofra archer is due to make his first international appearance since march last year. the fast bowler�*s career has been hampered by a series of injuries but he's also been named in england's provisional squad for the defence of their t20 world cup which starts in the west indies injune. she's been likened to the olympic champion dame kelly holmes, and is one of team gb�*s best chances on the track at the paris olympics this summer having won silver in tokyo four years ago. this weekend, middle—distance runner keely hodgkinson will get an idea of what form she's in ahead of the games, when she runs her first 800 metres of the year at the diamond league event in eugene, oregon. she's been speaking tojo currie. keely hodgkinson! it was the moment a teenager from wigan became an athletics star. keely hodgkinson takes the silver, showing the rest of the world the way. 19—year—old keely hodgkinson arrived at the tokyo olympics relatively unknown, but she stepped off the track. an olympic silver medallist. this summer she's aiming to go one better. i feel like i've really grown up in some ways. as i look back from when i was 19 and i was just such a naive little soul, ready to go to the olympics. but i have a lot of experience now. i've been doing this a long time and, yeah, i think i'm just as excited this time around as i was then. some of sport's biggest rivalries have come on the track. the women's 800 metres is no different and hodgkinson is now looking to change a reoccurring theme. olympic silver, world silver, commonwealth games silver. what would that elusive gold medal mean to you? i think it would be very emotional. i think, you know, when you spend three years just trying to find those little tiny 1%s, like, i train so much harder than i did three years ago. and you just hope that it's enough. i've always looked at other athletes and thought, how do they maintain every single yea,r come out and medal year, come out and medal and medal and medal? it gets harder, but that's just part of the job and i enjoy the pressure, to be honest. i think it's a privilege. and of standing on top of the podium isn't incentive enough, world athletics will award prize money to gold medallists at this year's games for the first time. it definitely would make a difference, i think... well, who would say no to £50,000? it's definitely a significant amount of money. but then, yeah, if you compare it to the likes of tennis, football, it's nothing really, is it? athletics needs that. i'm all for it, to be honest, i guess, you know, why would you not be? but yeah, i think hopefully you can keep going and bring it into other sports and make it a more professional environment. at 22 years old, hodgkinson may not even peak on the track until the next olympics in la in 2028. this is what keely's good at! after this summer, though, her place in history may already be secure. jo currie, bbc news. i love that some athletes have not spoken about the prize money and she is saying, it's great, bring it on, and bring on the pressure as well. i spoke to her after tokyo and she said he wanted to become one of britain's greatest athletes, dreaming big, taking on the ambition and all that pressure and stress that that entails, i wish her massive good luck going into the games. i massive good luck going into the names. ., ., ., , ., �*, games. i love that ambition, it's areat. games. i love that ambition, it's great- thank— games. i love that ambition, it's great. thank you, _ games. i love that ambition, it's great. thank you, chetan. - if your local council are forever changing the rules on which rubbish goes in which colour bin, this next story will be music to your ears. the nature and's blood pressure is rising right now! —— mcrae the nation's blood pressure is rising right now! the government want to introduce a new system, that would allow all recycling to be collected in just one bin. they claim it would increase recycling rates and put an end to streets littered with lots of bins. our reporterjake zuckerman has been finding out more. recycling bins come in many different colours, and depending on where you live, you can put different things in them. it can sometimes seem like they're taking over the world. but are we about to see these space invaders sent packing? the government has announced that it wants councils to collect all recycling in just the one bin. it's only a few months since i was here in calthorpe talking to people about the new separate recycling bin they'd got for card and paper. so how do they feel about going back to the old system where all the recycling goes in one bin? well, where we've got it, i think we should stay as we are. i wouldn't want them to take it all away again. it's an extraordinary expense. do you think it would be good to have all of your recycling in one bin? well, it would certainly help people who live in a terraced house, wouldn't it? it's only a few months ago, since we saw you trying to throw away the box from this e—bike. yes, yeah. have you got to grips with the new recycling system here? yeah, yeah, pretty much now. yeah, it's literally pretty much easy as clockwork as they say. would you like to see it go back to one bin or... yeah, definitely. because for one, it's space in your garden, it's chucked an extra bin in your garden, innit? so for me personally it would be a lot better for room and space, you know what i mean, to have that bin taken away again. but is that actually going to happen? well, don't hold your breath. my name is rhys baker, i am cabinet member for waste and environment. do you think it was the right thing to bring in the purple lidded bins here? given what the government's advice is now, was it a mistake? no, i don't think it was a mistake to introduce an extra bin. what we're offering in south kesteven as part of the lincolnshire waste partnership is a collection stream that is above and beyond what the government have announced in their simpler recycling update. we are providing a separation of our waste which gives lower contamination rates and that ultimately allows us to collect a higher standard and quality of recycling which can be sold on at the end of the stream for money that can be reinvested into our services. so we're not going back to one bin then? there are no plans to go back to one bin, what we're offering is better. it seems then that in south kesteven at least the bins are here to stay. it is my bin day today. i'm feeling quite triggered. i have got to do my whole palaver. 50 quite triggered. i have got to do my whole palaver-_ quite triggered. i have got to do my whole palaver. so the bins had to go out last night _ whole palaver. so the bins had to go out last night or _ whole palaver. so the bins had to go out last night or tonight? _ whole palaver. so the bins had to go out last night or tonight? it's - whole palaver. so the bins had to go out last night or tonight? it's an - out last night or tonight? it's an exciting moment.— out last night or tonight? it's an exciting moment. yes, always look forward to wednesday. _ exciting moment. yes, always look forward to wednesday. let - exciting moment. yes, always look forward to wednesday. let us - exciting moment. yes, always look| forward to wednesday. let us know what you think about that, i expect to have thoughts, i have! you can use the qr code, tell us where you are, show us your rubbish! trio. use the qr code, tell us where you are, show us your rubbish! no, don't show us your— are, show us your rubbish! no, don't show us your rubbish, _ are, show us your rubbish! no, don't 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bins. i know this is getting on _ about your bins. i know this is getting on everybody's - about your bins. i know this is| getting on everybody's nerves, about your bins. i know this is - getting on everybody's nerves, pot holes. brute getting on everybody's nerves, pot holes. ~ ., getting on everybody's nerves, pot holes. ~ . ., , , getting on everybody's nerves, pot holes. . ., , , , , holes. we are really whiny people up this morning! — holes. we are really whiny people up this morning! -- _ holes. we are really whiny people up this morning! -- winding _ holes. we are really whiny people up this morning! -- winding people - holes. we are really whiny people up this morning! -- winding people up! | residents in a village near salisbury are worried they will soon become completely cut off from the road network because of a giant pothole. a huge crater 12 metres long and two metres wide has caused the road into charlton—all—saints to become almost impassable. that is much more than a whole! our reporter dan o'brien has been to find out more. as holes in the road go, this one is a whopper. so that's 12 and a half metres? wow! locals dave and vince are going to need a bigger tape measure for their village's new water feature, at charlton—all—saints near salisbury. a few deliveries brave their way, but most use the other route, itself prone to flooding. big puddle! with the risk this village gets cut off. if they try to repair it when it's soaking wet like this, it's not going to last. so we all appreciate it can't be fixed until the drainage is fixed, but therefore the drainage needs to be fixed and it needs to be done soon rather than later. another year like we've had, if this doesn't get done, church lane potholes actually degrade further, where does that actually leave us? i'm sure it won't get to that. but nevertheless, your point, that is what rural communities actually have to put up with is getting that attention... before they get cut off. the land alongside the road is owned by longford estates, who told us their drainage routes are clear but the ground is too saturated, leaving the water nowhere to go. getting this sorted is on wiltshire council's to—do list but it says that can only happen once the ground is dried out, which can only happen once the drainage is sorted. but there is a concern across rural parts of wiltshire that in quiet spots like this, the problem just isn't taken seriously enough. roads like charlton, where literally the village is on the floodplain, it's on the pretty much the river level, there really are limits as to what you can do with the volume of rain we're getting at the moment. the problem we've got with not all but almost all of the rural locations now where we've got potholes, and there are a fair number and i'm painfully familiar with many of them, is that they have been full of water and the rain just hasn't stopped. the water table has been literally up to the pretty much the top of the soil. it is finally falling. wiltshire council says a temporary repair should happen in the next 24 hours. but for a longer term fix we're at the mercy of the weather forecast. well, that is goodtiming! they could build a massive _ well, that is goodtiming! they could build a massive bridge _ well, that is goodtiming! they could build a massive bridge out _ well, that is goodtiming! they could build a massive bridge out of - well, that is goodtiming! they could build a massive bridge out of all - well, that is goodtiming! they could build a massive bridge out of all of l build a massive bridge out of all of the recycling bins. the build a massive bridge out of all of the recycling bins.— the recycling bins. the weather forecast, the recycling bins. the weather forecast. we — the recycling bins. the weather forecast, we have _ the recycling bins. the weather forecast, we have it, _ the recycling bins. the weather forecast, we have it, good - the recycling bins. the weather - forecast, we have it, good morning, carol. good morning. more rain on the way today, some of us already seeing it and it is heavy and persistent. good morning to you. some heavy rain coming in across parts of the south of england and wales as we go through the course of today, and you can see the heavy glad we have got as well. this rain is going to be moving steadily north and east, it will be cooler today and tomorrow, but only friday when the rain will be waning and then the temperature is rising into the bank holiday weekend. low pressure dominating our weather currently, the wind will strengthen today. this amber weather warning hasjust strengthen today. this amber weather warning has just been strengthen today. this amber weather warning hasjust been issued, meaning be prepared for impact because of the severity of the weather. heavy rain valid from midday today until midday tomorrow, north wales, north—west england and parts of the west midlands. 30 to 40 millimetres of rain widely, on the hills we could get up to 150 millimetres or more, round about six inches of rain. you can see the progress it is making pushing north and west, and in its wake there will be thunderstorms developing across southern england, likely to produce a lot of rain. rain eventually getting into parts of scotland where we start with some showers. showers in northern ireland with rain coming into the east. temperature is 13 to 18 degrees but lower than that under the banner of rain. this evening it will be pushing north and west getting into northern ireland more, the wind will strengthen, a lot of cloud and mist and murk around. these are the overnight temperatures. eight to 12 degrees. tomorrow we have the low pressure area dominating our weather still, producing some heavy and persistent rain, a windy day as well. in the southern half of the country something drier and brighter but we cannot completely rule out a shower. temperatures 11 to 18. temperatures have slipped from what we have had recently. up to thursday, this is the rightful accumulation that you can expect. where we have got the jade and brighter colours, we could have as much as 100 millimetres especially on the hills. the risk of localised flooding, risk of disruption and on friday low pressure starts to loosen its grip on us. a lot of cloud and showers around but not as persistent. temperatures 13 to 18 degrees. if you are wondering about the bank holiday weekend, it is all change. drier and brighter, a few showers at times, the temperature will rise and it will feel much warmer. so it times, the temperature will rise and it will feel much warmer.— it will feel much warmer. so it is caettin it will feel much warmer. so it is getting better? _ it will feel much warmer. so it is getting better? yes, _ it will feel much warmer. so it is getting better? yes, it— it will feel much warmer. so it is getting better? yes, it is. - it will feel much warmer. so it is getting better? yes, it is. thankj getting better? yes, it is. thank ou! when you think of climate change, it's often the phrase �*global warming' that comes to mind, but here in the uk, it's actually getting wetter. we can telljust by listening to what carol has said. according to scientists at the world weather attribution group, rainfall over the last few months was 20% heavier because of human—produced greenhouse gasses. our climate editor, justin rowlatt, is in worcester to tell us more. it looks like it might be raining! it is raining, it has been persistent rain here in weston. as you say, the incredibly sodden autumn and winter we all endured this year was made four times more likely because of climate change. that extreme weather, we remember caused terrible floods, at least 13 people died in it. and more than half a billion pounds of damage was caused according to british insurers. i am caused according to british insurers. iam in caused according to british insurers. i am in a caused according to british insurers. iam in a place, the home of a guy who single—handedly managed to hold back the flood waters here. this is home, and viewers may well remember its, although it looks very different. he built this fantastic wall, that is the clue. it looks very different when it is not surrounded by water, take a look at this. this is how nick's home looked during the terrible floods that have hit parts of the uk since last october. an island in a sea of floodwater. this is a flood risk area and nick was getting sick of mopping up the mess. although the house has got some really good mitigations in place, like barriers on the doors and pumps below the floor level, we finally decided to build ourselves a wall around the house. this winter was the ultimate test, with some of the highest water levels on record in the area, and nick's wall held firm. many other people didn't fare so well, though. the period between october and march was the second wettest on record, with a series of big storms barrelling in. researchers say the rain the country experienced then would have been a one in 80 year event if humans hadn't heated up the planet. homes and infrastructure were damaged, many people had to power outages and farmers lost crops and livestock. researchers say the rain the country experienced then would have been a one in 80 year event if humans hadn't heated up the planet. now we can expect it once every 20 years. our climate is changing, and in this study we found that we do expect the increase in rainfall intensity to continue in the future. but how much future climate change we experience does depend on how rapidly and quickly we and the world can respond and reduce our emissions of greenhouse gases and other pollutants. and the bad news is, the scientists say it is going to get worse unless the world makes dramatic cuts in greenhouse gas emissions. so, that's the message from the scientists. we will be talking to nick who built this fabulous wall in a moment. first we have dave who used to be the, one of the environment agency's men here in the midlands. how has flooding changed in the time we have been looking at it? ., ., , , in the time we have been looking at it? , , ., it? the floods in this part of the world have _ it? the floods in this part of the world have been _ it? the floods in this part of the world have been bigger- it? the floods in this part of the world have been bigger and - it? the floods in this part of the l world have been bigger and more frequent and they last longer. if we take a really big flood that is going to challenge nick's wall, five metres at worcester, through the whole of the last century we saw four above four metres, and since 2020 we have seen it nine in this part of the world. for 2020 we have seen it nine in this part of the world.— part of the world. for in the last century and _ part of the world. for in the last century and nine _ part of the world. for in the last century and nine since - part of the world. for in the last century and nine since 2020? i century and nine since 2020? exactly, and they are lasting longer. smallerfloods, we would get ten per year and now 15, 20, 25 per year. is ten per year and now 15, 20, 25 per ear. , ., . , ten per year and now 15, 20, 25 per ear. , . . , ., ., year. is a chilly quite warmer air can hold, _ year. is a chilly quite warmer air can hold. for — year. is a chilly quite warmer air can hold, for every _ year. is a chilly quite warmer air can hold, for every degree - year. is a chilly quite warmer air can hold, for every degree the l year. is a chilly quite warmer air. can hold, for every degree the air gets warmer, it can hold 70% more moisture. does that worry you when the world continues to warm? absolutely and we should not be surprised, you cannot beat physics. all of the forecasts are saying that we need to expect floods to be ten and 20% bigger in the next 20 years in this part of the world.— in this part of the world. dave, thank you _ in this part of the world. dave, thank you very _ in this part of the world. dave, thank you very much. - in this part of the world. dave, thank you very much. nick, - in this part of the world. dave, | thank you very much. nick, this in this part of the world. dave, i thank you very much. nick, this is your home, you wear the man behind the wall. 30 million people watched one of the videos of your home. are you worried listening to dave that he may be have not built it big enough and you need a bigger wall? i enough and you need a bigger wall? i don't think we do at this stage. we built the _ don't think we do at this stage. we built the wall about 12 inches higher— built the wall about 12 inches higher than the highest flood that we have _ higher than the highest flood that we have had and that is quite a lot of water— we have had and that is quite a lot of water in — we have had and that is quite a lot of water in this area in the floodplain, it is a vast floodplain round _ floodplain, it is a vast floodplain round here. but we do need to be ready— round here. but we do need to be ready to _ round here. but we do need to be ready to take precautions if it were to come _ ready to take precautions if it were to come over the wall, what would we do there _ to come over the wall, what would we do there and — to come over the wall, what would we do there and what our contingency plan is _ do there and what our contingency plan is we — do there and what our contingency plan is. we have other features in the house — plan is. we have other features in the house like barriers on the doors and pumps — the house like barriers on the doors and pumps that will hopefully get to the house _ and pumps that will hopefully get to the house and even if it does —— keep— the house and even if it does —— keep the — the house and even if it does —— keep the water out of the house and even if— keep the water out of the house and even if it— keep the water out of the house and even if it does flood, we are able to recover— even if it does flood, we are able to recover quite quickly. this even if it does flood, we are able to recover quite quickly.- to recover quite quickly. this is a flood prone _ to recover quite quickly. this is a flood prone area _ to recover quite quickly. this is a flood prone area and _ to recover quite quickly. this is a flood prone area and you - to recover quite quickly. this is a flood prone area and you knew. to recover quite quickly. this is a - flood prone area and you knew when you bought the house it is likely to flood, i'm intrigued to know whether your neighbours are coming to you saying, we want to build similar walls? i saying, we want to build similar walls? ., ., ., ., ,, walls? i would love to take the credit that _ walls? i would love to take the credit that actually, _ walls? i would love to take the credit that actually, near - credit that actually, near neighbours around here, there are three _ neighbours around here, there are three other— neighbours around here, there are three other people that i can think of who— three other people that i can think of who have built walls before i did. of who have built walls before i did they— of who have built walls before i did. they were the inspiration for me to _ did. they were the inspiration for me to build — did. they were the inspiration for me to build the wall. i'm glad they inspired _ me to build the wall. i'm glad they inspired me to do so. it me to build the wall. i'm glad they inspired me to do so.— me to build the wall. i'm glad they inspired me to do so. it has worked so well. inspired me to do so. it has worked so well- so — inspired me to do so. it has worked so well. so from _ inspired me to do so. it has worked so well. so from nick's _ inspired me to do so. it has worked so well. so from nick's came, - inspired me to do so. it has worked so well. so from nick's came, his i so well. so from nick's came, his fabulous flood wall he has built here, back to you in the studio. go and get yourself dry somewhere, justin! ., ., ., ., go and get yourself dry somewhere, justin! ., ., . ., ., justin! you would have thought a climate editor _ justin! you would have thought a climate editor would _ justin! you would have thought a climate editor would have - justin! you would have thought a climate editor would have an - climate editor would have an umbrella!— climate editor would have an umbrella! ~ . ., , umbrella! we will have the headlines and the inflation _ umbrella! we will have the headlines and the inflation figures _ umbrella! we will have the headlines and the inflation figures in _ umbrella! we will have the headlines and the inflation figures in a - and the inflation figures in a moment. time now to get the news, travel and weather where you are. a very good morning from bbc london. i'm alice salfield. neighbours of a woman who was mauled to death by her two xl bully dogs in east london have paid tribute to her — saying she was kind and loving. the victim has been named locally as angeline mahal. she was attacked on monday at her home in hornchurch. the two registered dogs were seized after being contained in a room. more than 100 people on five housing estates in south london have been told to look for somewhere else to live. the private tenants had moved onto estates which had been earmarked for regeneration and potential demolition by lambeth council. the council says its homes were let on a short term basis and it will provide vital housing for homeless families. but tenants have accused them of failing to be transparent, with one saying within months of agreeing to a renewal they were told the landlord wanted the property back. we've told them that this is our home, we want to make it our home, we are looking for a long—term house. yeah, i just felt fooled, because obviously ijust thought that they knew what's going on with the property since day one, they knew their intention and they've never been transparent. drivers are being warned to avoid albert bridge next week as it's closing for essential maintenance. the crossing which connects chelsea to battersea will be shut in both directions from tuesday until saturday. pedestrians and cyclists can still use it, but vehicles will have to follow a diversion. children at a school in north london have been crowned �*britain's funniest class.�* it's after a nationwide competition in the beano, which asked pupils to submit their bestjokes. year 6 at northside primary in finchley took the title with 42 percent of the vote — and will now see their entry featured in the comic. and if you want to find out the winning joke, you can head to our website! but now let's take a look at the tubes we've got a part suspension on thejubilee line with no service between stratford and north greenwich. and minor delays on the northern line. well, after all the rain, let's see how the weather's looking today with kate. good morning. another unsettled day today. the rain not perhaps so persistent but we have some frequent, heavy, perhaps thundery showers moving through. the wind is a bit stronger today so they will race through fairly quickly. temperatures today getting up to just somewhere between 14 and 16 celsius so feeling a little chillier. overnight those daytime showers will fade, becoming dry, still quite cloudy at least for a time but we mightjust see that cloud break a little as we head through to dawn. the minimum temperature double figures, around 10 celsius. now, low pressurejust starts to shift northwards as we head through thursday. we may get a bit of cloud to start with but it should start to thin and break, it is a much drier day tomorrow. there is a small chance of a shower but largely dry and in the sunshine, temperatures still feeling quite cool, actually. still breezy tomorrow, the maximum just 17 celsius. as we head towards the end of the week, and into the bank holiday weekend, it is looking a little more settled and the temperature with those sunny spells getting back up to around 20 celsius. that's it — but you can get all the latest on the bbc news app. i'll see you in half an hour. bye— bye. good morning and welcome to breakfast with sally nugent and jon kay. our headlines today. inflation falls to 2.3%. closer to the government's target. closer but not quite there or where it should _ closer but not quite there or where it should be. we'll take a look to see if things are really returning to normal? face to face with the victims of the post office scandal. former chief executive paula vennells finally gives evidence to the public inquiry tributes are paid to 73—year—old geoff kitchen who died after a plane hit severe turbulance on its way from london to singapore the government says it will move quickly to compensate the victims of the infected blood scandal, with some set to receive more than £2 million. good morning. for many of us some heavy and persistent rain pushing north and west and if you don't have that, it's likely to be fairly overcast with some showers. i will have the details later in the programme. it's wednesday 22 may. our main story. in the last few minutes we have the latest inflation figures and nina can tell us more and explain. yes. can tell us more and explain. yes, aood can tell us more and explain. yes, good morning- _ can tell us more and explain. yes, good morning. we _ can tell us more and explain. yes, good morning. we learn _ can tell us more and explain. use: good morning. we learn that inflation hit 2.3%, representing a further move away from the horrible 40 year high of 11% in october 2022. it's hugely significant as we are shifting closer to where the bank of england wants it to be which would be 2% representing economic growth thatis be 2% representing economic growth that is healthy and under control. economists this morning will be breathing a huge sigh of relief. but can you? it's probable you are still reeling every time you go to the supermarket. it's possible you've had to hit the savings to get through the last two years, and that summer holiday is looking unlikely. for the government it's been costly and they borrowed to support energy costs and it has made for a miserable electorate, so while this is a symbolic moment but for most people it will feel little more than that. the bank of england might start thinking more seriously about bringing interest rates down and having a knock—on from mortgages and food prices are even starting to fall on some products. wage rises are statistically meaning a little bit more. but the last two years have given the economy an enormous shock. inflation at 2.3% but we will be catching our breath for a while net. ~ , ., ~ be catching our breath for a while net. ~ , ., ,, ., net. we will be talking to the chancellor — net. we will be talking to the chancellor about _ net. we will be talking to the chancellor about that. - the former chief executive of the post office, paula vennells, will begin giving evidence at the public inquiry into the horizon it scandal later today. it's the first time she'll publicly speak about her role in the scandal for almost a decade. our business correspondent emma simpson has the details. it's 2012, and paula vennells is in herfirst year as the new boss of the post office. she's already spent half a decade with the business. and here she's on a visit to the shop floor. retail is detail. i don't know whoever it was that said that, but it is that. and you come to places like this and you find out the little things that make the operation much more efficient. back then, the post office was haemorrhaging money. the pressure is on to turn things around. but did she put profits before people? there's a sack full of questions waiting for her now. lee bought the bridlington branch in 2003. the losses soon began. here he is after the post office made him bankrupt with huge legal costs as they pursued him in court. so important for me personally that i understand. 20 years on, hejust wants some answers. i'm not looking for her to be crucified or anything like that. i'm just looking for the truth. why, who, what, when? ijust need to understand just to help me in myjourney. politicians had plenty of dealings with paula vennells, too. i don't expect there to be many gotcha moments because her solicitors are very good. lord arbuthnot played a key role, putting pressure on the post office to come clean. the inquiry�*s likely to ask about this appearance before mps when she defended the faulty horizon it system. if there had been any miscarriages ofjustice, it would have been really important to me and the post office that we actually surface those and as the investigations have gone through so far, we've had no evidence of that. she must have known of the clerk advice which referred to one fujitsu witness who had misled the court and who has now been referred to the metropolitan police in view of some of the evidence that he gave. and how did she square what she said in 2015 with what the barrister had told her and the rest of the post office in 2013? in guildford, a theatre fills up with people who've come to hear more about the scandal. they're here to listen to the journalist who has spent years helping expose the truth. for him, leadership or lack of it is key. if your business prosecutes people, prosecuting people is the most important part of your business and you need to be all over it. and i don't think she was. she relied on post office loyalists and highly paid legal advisers to tell her the truth she wanted to hear. and i think now it's time that we heard the actual truth from her. the stage now set for the biggest moment in the public inquiry. paula vennells' solicitors say she's focused on cooperating with it, breaking her silence for the first time in almost a decade. emma simpson, bbc news. tributes have been paid to a 73—year—old british man who died when a singapore airlines flight from london hit severe turbulence and dropped around 6,000 feet within four minutes. dozens of injured passengers — and some crew — are still receiving medical treatment in thailand, but most of those onboard have finally arrived in singapore. our reporter paul hawkins has more. relief and gratitude at changi airport. over 140 airline staff and passengers finally completing their nightmare journey, including this student. i didn't understand at all the full scale of what happened until we landed. like, i didn't realise the things that broke within the airplane, the dents that were made in overhead luggage compartments, and all the additional kind of paneling above our heads. like, i thought it was just the oxygen masks coming out and then popping out the panel. but in fact, like, heads had literally pushed through and broken those plastic panels. and like, there'sjust blood and there's bits and pieces just broken everywhere. this was how some left the boeing 777 after it was forced to land in bangkok. some in a critical condition while dozens were injured during sudden severe air turbulence. tough day. definitely, yes. worst in my life, actually. suddenly that plane plunged. i don't know how far, but they said 6000 feet. it didn't seem like 6000 feet, but it was a long way. and so sudden — there was no warning at all. and i ended up hitting my head on the ceiling. my wife did. some poor people who were walking around ended up doing somersaults. 73—year—old geoff kitchen from gloucestershire wasn't so fortunate. the retired insurance man died from a heart attack. his theatre group describing him as a gentleman with honesty and integrity. the flight with 229 people on board left london late on monday night, bound for singapore. but on the final leg near the myanmar coast, it ran into difficulty. dozens are still being treated for their injuries in bangkok. an investigation is underway. paul hawkins, bbc news. our correspondent monica miller is at singapore airport, where many of the passengers and crew were taken. monica, what's the latest on those who were injured? some people still being treated? in bangkok they are. the passengers who arrived here and the crew last night, there were more than 140 of them who were non—injured and willing to get back on a plane having gone through that harrowing experience. my team and i were there earlier this morning and they were absolutely frazzled and exhausted. they were kept at quite a distance as they got off the plane but we were able to ask how they were feeling and said they were just glad to be alive. we do have our colleagues in bangkok who are keeping an eye on the progress or the status of those passengers who were taken to bangkok hospital and what we do know is 71 passengers and crew were checked into the hospital and we are expecting an update on their condition later today and we do know that that number is now six are critical rather than seven. monica, thank you very much. a former royal marine charged with assisting the hong kong intelligence service has been found dead in a park in maidenhead. 37—year—old matthew trickett, who was a home office immigration officer, appeared in court last week, charged under the national security act. his death is being treated as unexplained. wylfe in anglesey has been chosen by the government as the preferred site for a large—scale nuclear power plant, similar to that at hinkley in somerset. the japanese firm hitachi suspended plans to build on the site in 2019, after it failed to secure government funding. ministers said the site would provide thousands ofjobs. a nursery nurse will be sentenced today for the manslaughter of a nine—month—old baby at tiny toes nursery in stockport in may 2022. kate roughley strapped genevieve meehan face down to a beanbag and left her for 90 minutes. police in england have been told to consider making fewer arrests, because of a lack of space in prisons. in a letter seen by the bbc, the national police chiefs council warns forces that the current situation is unsustainable. our chief political correspondent, henry zeffman is in westminster for us this morning. henry, how will this news be received by mps? i think they will be pretty concerned. we have known for some time that the prison system is under extreme strain and we've seen the government take measures to reduce that strain by the early release of some prisoners, by delaying hearings in some magistrates courts, and now we know more about what is happening in police forces. this is all to do with a letter from the national police chief council which coordinates policy across police forces which were sent to chief constables and all forces in england eight or so days ago and was leaked to the times newspaper and this is a bit of what it said. it told chief constables that consideration is to be given to pausing non—priority arrests and any planned operations where large numbers of arrests might take place to ease the pressure in the criminaljustice system. what does it mean? it means police forces were being told to consider not arresting people because that might put strain on the prison system. that is pretty serious. politically, nothing is more important to a government's credibility to a political party's election winning strategy than being seen to keep the country safe and that is why, as you say, mps will be concerned about this. we had a statement from the government to say public safety will always be the first priority and they also say there is pressure on jails but it's because of the impact of the pandemic and also of a strike by criminal barristers. a powerful tornado has ripped through a town in the us state of iowa, killing a number of people and leaving at least a dozen injured, according to the authorities there. images from the town of greenfield show a path of utter destruction — with cars overturned, homes destroyed and debris strewn everywhere. police said they couldn't yet say how many people had died in the storm. iran's government has declared today a public holiday, to mark the funeral of the country's president — ebrahim raisi — who was killed in a helicopter crash near the azerbaijan border on sunday. his body is expected to be taken from the capital tehran, and buried in his birthplace, mashhad on thursday. the conservative mp, craig mackinlay, is returning to parliament for the first time today after losing his hands and feet to sepsis. when he was rushed to hospital last year, craig was given just a 5% chance of survival and put into an induced coma. now back home, he wants to be known as the first "bionic mp", as he's been fitted with prosthetic legs and hands. this actually puts life into context. we all probably spend too much time in westminster, away from family, chasing this, that all the other, whereas after this you realise the important things are family. your children, your child, and friends, and all of those things that really do count. so maybe that has changed. i may have changed my outlook, but having been very closed to death, they are not likely to die, so life is the important thing. craig mckinley talking openly and powerfully about what he has been through. we will hear more from him in a programme. lovely and sunny in his garden, but this morning we are pretty much waking up and it is a bit grim. pretty much waking up and it is a bit rim. ., v , bit grim. that's right. it is murky and there is _ bit grim. that's right. it is murky and there is a _ bit grim. that's right. it is murky and there is a lot _ bit grim. that's right. it is murky and there is a lot of _ bit grim. that's right. it is murky and there is a lot of low - bit grim. that's right. it is murky and there is a lot of low cloud, . and there is a lot of low cloud, mist _ and there is a lot of low cloud, mist and — and there is a lot of low cloud, mist and fog and some persistent rain as— mist and fog and some persistent rain as well. the rain has been coming — rain as well. the rain has been coming in— rain as well. the rain has been coming in from the south and is pushing — coming in from the south and is pushing north and west through the course _ pushing north and west through the course of— pushing north and west through the course of the day and that will also be persistent, a good description. what _ be persistent, a good description. what happens as we go through the course _ what happens as we go through the course of— what happens as we go through the course of the day is the risk of localised — course of the day is the risk of localised flooding because of the amount— localised flooding because of the amount of rainfall and there will be amount of rainfall and there will be a lot of— amount of rainfall and there will be a lot of surface water and spray on the roads— a lot of surface water and spray on the roads and disruption and you can see where _ the roads and disruption and you can see where we have the heavy persistent rain there are some showers — persistent rain there are some showers in _ persistent rain there are some showers in the also some thundery showers _ showers in the also some thundery showers coming in across parts of devon, _ showers coming in across parts of devon, and — showers coming in across parts of devon, and this will continue to drift— devon, and this will continue to drift north — devon, and this will continue to drift north and west and the met office _ drift north and west and the met office has issued an amber weather warning _ office has issued an amber weather warning meaning impacts are likely from the _ warning meaning impacts are likely from the severe weather and it's valid _ from the severe weather and it's valid from — from the severe weather and it's valid from midday today until tomorrow and in all of these areas across— tomorrow and in all of these areas across north wales and north west england _ across north wales and north west england. between 30 and 40 millimetres of rain widely but are hundred — millimetres of rain widely but are hundred and 50 and possibly more on the tops— hundred and 50 and possibly more on the tops of— hundred and 50 and possibly more on the tops of the hills especially the welsh _ the tops of the hills especially the welsh mountains. you can see the progress _ welsh mountains. you can see the progress the rain makes moving north and west— progress the rain makes moving north and west and behind it there will be thundery— and west and behind it there will be thundery showers across coastal counties — thundery showers across coastal counties and some of those could be torrential _ counties and some of those could be torrential. heavy rain moving across wales _ torrential. heavy rain moving across wales and _ torrential. heavy rain moving across wales and in— torrential. heavy rain moving across wales and in through the midlands and east _ wales and in through the midlands and east anglia into northern england _ and east anglia into northern england clipping the south of scotland and for northern ireland, a brighter— scotland and for northern ireland, a brighter start with a few showers and also — brighter start with a few showers and also showers across western scotland — and also showers across western scotland and brate are initially in the east — scotland and brate are initially in the east but that won't last because this rain— the east but that won't last because this rain is— the east but that won't last because this rain is going to continue to move _ this rain is going to continue to move north and will click parts of northern— move north and will click parts of northern ireland, eastern northern ireland _ northern ireland, eastern northern ireland through the day and here there _ ireland through the day and here there will— ireland through the day and here there will be a brisk wind coming down _ there will be a brisk wind coming down from — there will be a brisk wind coming down from the north. temperatures between _ down from the north. temperatures between 13— down from the north. temperatures between 13 or 18 degrees but feeling colder— between 13 or 18 degrees but feeling colder if— between 13 or 18 degrees but feeling colder if you are stuck in the rain. as we _ colder if you are stuck in the rain. as we go — colder if you are stuck in the rain. as we go through the evening and overnight— as we go through the evening and overnight the rain continues to push north— overnight the rain continues to push north and _ overnight the rain continues to push north and the wind will pick up but one thing — north and the wind will pick up but one thing is— north and the wind will pick up but one thing is it will not be a cold night _ one thing is it will not be a cold niuht. ., ., ., ~ one thing is it will not be a cold niuht. ., ., . ,, i. one thing is it will not be a cold niuht. ., ., . ~' ,, night. carroll, thank you, so changeable. _ night. carroll, thank you, so changeable. this _ night. carroll, thank you, so changeable. this week- night. carroll, thank you, so changeable. this week on i night. carroll, thank you, so - changeable. this week on breakfast we've heard — changeable. this week on breakfast we've heard from _ changeable. this week on breakfast we've heard from many _ changeable. this week on breakfast we've heard from many victims - changeable. this week on breakfast we've heard from many victims of l changeable. this week on breakfast l we've heard from many victims of the nhs infected blood scandal. between 1970 and 1991, more than 30,000 people were infected with hiv and hepatitis c after receiving contaminated blood products and transfusions. now the government has outlined its plan to compensate those affected. the scheme suggests some victims could get more than 2 million although many will receive far less. there will be payments to those infected, or into their estate if they've died. the partners, family and friends of victims will also be able to apply for compensation if they have been impacted. payments will be exempt from tax and not means tested. there will be an interim payment of £210,000 within 90 days to the most urgent cases. final payments will be made by the end of the year. the total cost could eventually be in the region of £10 billion. we'rejoined now by hepatitis c victim dena peacock and her husband dave, as well as bob strachen, whose dad died of hiv in 1987. good morning, bob. thank you for coming in. i know it has been an exhausting week a roller—coaster. how have you found it? it exhausting week a roller-coaster. how have you found it?— exhausting week a roller-coaster. how have you found it? it has been u . how have you found it? it has been u- and how have you found it? it has been pp and down- _ how have you found it? it has been up and down. the _ how have you found it? it has been up and down. the report _ how have you found it? it has been up and down. the report 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and why compensation is so important-— and why compensation is so imortant. , . important. basically i was infected in 2017 with _ important. basically i was infected in 2017 with a _ important. basically i was infected in 2017 with a blood _ important. basically i was infected in 2017 with a blood transfusion, l in 2017 with a blood transfusion, sorry, _ in 2017 with a blood transfusion, sorry, in— in 2017 with a blood transfusion, sorry, in t9 _ in 2017 with a blood transfusion, sorry. in t9 80 _ in 2017 with a blood transfusion, sorry, in 19 80 and _ in 2017 with a blood transfusion, sorry, in 19 80 and i— in 2017 with a blood transfusion, sorry, in 19 80 and i found - in 2017 with a blood transfusion, sorry, in 19 80 and i found out. in 2017 with a blood transfusion, | sorry, in 19 80 and i found out in 2017~ _ sorry, in 19 80 and i found out in 2017~ so— sorry, in 19 80 and i found out in 2017~ so i've _ sorry, in 19 80 and i found out in 2017. so i've struggled _ sorry, in 19 80 and i found out in. 2017. so i've struggled throughout my life. _ 2017. so i've struggled throughout my life. and — 2017. so i've struggled throughout my life. and yeah. _ 2017. so i've struggled throughout my life, and yeah, it's _ 2017. so i've struggled throughout my life, and yeah, it's not - 2017. so i've struggled throughout my life, and yeah, it's not been i my life, and yeah, it's not been very— my life, and yeah, it's not been very good _ my life, and yeah, it's not been very good. compensation - my life, and yeah, it's not been very good. compensation for i my life, and yeah, it's not beenl very good. compensation for me my life, and yeah, it's not been i very good. compensation for me is my life, and yeah, it's not been - very good. compensation for me is so i very good. compensation for me is so i have _ very good. compensation for me is so i have close _ very good. compensation for me is so i have close here _ very good. compensation for me is so i have close here and _ very good. compensation for me is so i have close here and i— very good. compensation for me is so i have close here and i can _ very good. compensation for me is so i have close here and i can enjoy- i have close here and i can enjoy what _ i have close here and i can enjoy what time — i have close here and i can enjoy what time we _ i have close here and i can enjoy what time i've got _ i have close here and i can enjoy what time i've got with - i have close here and i can enjoy what time i've got with the - what time i've got with the children _ what time i've got with the children-— what time i've got with the children. ., ., , . ., what time i've got with the children. ., . , . ., children. how many children have you not? i've children. how many children have you got? we got — children. how many children have you got? we got six- _ children. how many children have you got? i've got six. and _ children. how many children have you got? i've got six. and your _ children. how many children have you got? i've got six. and your blood - got? i've got six. and your blood transfusion _ got? i've got six. and your blood transfusion that _ got? i've got six. and your blood transfusion that you _ got? i've got six. and your blood transfusion that you got - got? i've got six. and your blood transfusion that you got was - got? i've got six. and your blood i transfusion that you got was during that period when you are having your babies. in that period when you are having your babies. " j~:: ., that period when you are having your babies. "3:1. "3 that period when you are having your babies. "3:1. �* babies. in 1980 and 1982, i didn't find out babies. in 1980 and1982, i didn't find out until— babies. in 1980 and 1982, i didn't find out until 2017, _ babies. in 1980 and 1982, i didn't find out until 2017, but _ babies. in 1980 and 1982, i didn't find out until 2017, but in - babies. in 1980 and 1982, i didn't find out until 2017, but in all- babies. in 1980 and 1982, i didn't find out until 2017, but in all that| find out until 2017, but in all that time _ find out until 2017, but in all that time i_ find out until 2017, but in all that time i was — find out until 2017, but in all that time i was suffering _ find out until 2017, but in all that time i was suffering extreme - find out until 2017, but in all that . time i was suffering extreme fatigue and was _ time i was suffering extreme fatigue and was in _ time i was suffering extreme fatigue and was in bed— time i was suffering extreme fatigue and was in bed for— time i was suffering extreme fatigue and was in bed for days _ time i was suffering extreme fatigue and was in bed for days on _ time i was suffering extreme fatigue and was in bed for days on end - time i was suffering extreme fatigue and was in bed for days on end and i and was in bed for days on end and my children — and was in bed for days on end and my children basically _ and was in bed for days on end and my children basically had _ and was in bed for days on end and my children basically had to - and was in bed for days on end and my children basically had to bring i my children basically had to bring themselves— my children basically had to bring themselves up. _ my children basically had to bring themselves up, so— my children basically had to bring themselves up, so they - my children basically had to bring themselves up, so they didn't - my children basically had to bring. themselves up, so they didn't really have a _ themselves up, so they didn't really have a mother— themselves up, so they didn't really have a mother around. _ themselves up, so they didn't really have a motheraround. i— themselves up, so they didn't really have a mother around. i lost- themselves up, so they didn't really have a mother around. i lost my. themselves up, so they didn't reallyi have a mother around. i lost myjob, lost my— have a mother around. i lost myjob, lost my home, — have a mother around. i lost myjob, lost my home, so _ have a mother around. i lost myjob, lost my home, so it— have a mother around. i lost myjob, lost my home, so it was— have a mother around. i lost myjob, lost my home, so it was quite - lost my home, so it was quite impactful— lost my home, so it was quite impactful and _ lost my home, so it was quite impactful and then— lost my home, so it was quite impactful and then actually. lost my home, so it was quitel impactful and then actually the virus _ impactful and then actually the virus itself _ impactful and then actually the virus itself has _ impactful and then actually the virus itself has given _ impactful and then actually the virus itself has given me - impactful and then actually the virus itself has given me otherl virus itself has given me other health— virus itself has given me other health issues— virus itself has given me other health issues as _ virus itself has given me other health issues as well. - virus itself has given me other health issues as well. so, - virus itself has given me other health issues as well. so, not| virus itself has given me other- health issues as well. so, not good. bob, _ health issues as well. so, not good. bob, you _ health issues as well. so, not good. bob, you lost — health issues as well. so, not good. bob. you lost your— health issues as well. so, not good. bob, you lost your dad _ health issues as well. so, not good. bob, you lost your dad to _ health issues as well. so, not good. bob, you lost your dad to hiv- health issues as well. so, not good. bob, you lost your dad to hiv as - health issues as well. so, not good. bob, you lost your dad to hiv as a i bob, you lost your dad to hiv as a result of contaminated blood. that's correct. result of contaminated blood. that's correct- you — result of contaminated blood. that's correct. you said _ result of contaminated blood. that's correct. you said you _ result of contaminated blood. that's correct. you said you felt _ result of contaminated blood. that's correct. you said you felt the - result of contaminated blood. that's correct. you said you felt the rug - correct. you said you felt the rug had been pulled _ correct. you said you felt the rug had been pulled from _ correct. you said you felt the rug had been pulled from under- correct. you said you felt the rug had been pulled from under you| correct. you said you felt the rug i had been pulled from under you in the last 24 hours with details of the last 24 hours with details of the compensation scheme. explain why. the compensation scheme. explain wh . ., ., , the compensation scheme. explain wh. ., ., , ., the compensation scheme. explain why. emotions were so high after a phenomenal— why. emotions were so high after a phenomenal report, _ why. emotions were so high after a phenomenal report, so _ why. emotions were so high after a phenomenal report, so well - why. emotions were so high after a| phenomenal report, so well written and clear— phenomenal report, so well written and clear and phenomenal report, so well written and clearand then phenomenal report, so well written and clear and then the prime minister's statement was so well received. — minister's statement was so well received, and then putting robert francis— received, and then putting robert erancis in— received, and then putting robert francis in charge of this scheme and the framework that's already been laid out, _ the framework that's already been laid out, it— the framework that's already been laid out, it seemed to be quite straightforward. and then obviously the statement came out and the report— the statement came out and the report on— the statement came out and the report on the government website, and it— report on the government website, and it has— report on the government website, and it has caused great confusion and it has caused great confusion and great — and it has caused great confusion and great stress within our community. we are a community we are supporting _ community. we are a community we are supporting everyone and people are turning _ supporting everyone and people are turning on— supporting everyone and people are turning on each other and that should — turning on each other and that should not be, just because of misunderstandings and not knowing where _ misunderstandings and not knowing where it _ misunderstandings and not knowing where it is — misunderstandings and not knowing where it is. our community is the most _ where it is. our community is the most important thing whether it is hepatitis _ most important thing whether it is hepatitis c, hiv infected, affected, and everyone is there to support each _ and everyone is there to support each other— and everyone is there to support each other and it is sad to see everybody— each other and it is sad to see everybody so elated, and then it 'ust everybody so elated, and then it just went~ — everybody so elated, and then it 'ust went. ~ ., everybody so elated, and then it 'ust went. ~ . ., ., ., just went. what detail would have heled just went. what detail would have helped you? _ just went. what detail would have helped you? perhaps _ just went. what detail would have helped you? perhaps less - just went. what detail would have j helped you? perhaps less details, just went. what detail would have i helped you? perhaps less details, to be honest. helped you? perhaps less details, to be honest- just _ helped you? perhaps less details, to be honest. just to _ helped you? perhaps less details, to be honest. just to make _ helped you? perhaps less details, to be honest. just to make sure - helped you? perhaps less details, to be honest. just to make sure that. be honest. just to make sure that the infected are getting the payment. i thought this was a great thing. _ payment. i thought this was a great thing. get _ payment. i thought this was a great thing, get those infected a payment as soon— thing, get those infected a payment as soon as _ thing, get those infected a payment as soon as possible. the rest can be sorted _ as soon as possible. the rest can be sorted out _ as soon as possible. the rest can be sorted out later. so as soon as possible. the rest can be sorted out later.— sorted out later. so you think it is a bit confusing, _ sorted out later. so you think it is a bit confusing, what _ sorted out later. so you think it is a bit confusing, what has - sorted out later. so you think it is a bit confusing, what has been i a bit confusing, what has been presented, too much out there? it is the interpretation because everybody has a different interpretation of things — has a different interpretation of things. when i first read it i thought. _ things. when i first read it i thought, great, the infected folks and those — thought, great, the infected folks and those with little time left are going _ and those with little time left are going to — and those with little time left are going to get the compensation before it is too— going to get the compensation before it is too late because our police said, _ it is too late because our police said. we — it is too late because our police said, we are losing the rate of about— said, we are losing the rate of about one _ said, we are losing the rate of about one every four days, 90 days means _ about one every four days, 90 days means we — about one every four days, 90 days means we could lose between 25 and 30 people _ means we could lose between 25 and 30 people before it happens. that was of— 30 people before it happens. that was of utmost importance, to get that done — was of utmost importance, to get that done and some people didn't see the report, _ that done and some people didn't see the report, sadly but it's so important that those infected people -et important that those infected people get that— important that those infected people get that as quickly as possible but then not— get that as quickly as possible but then not understanding fully what it meant. _ then not understanding fully what it meant, half figures that could mean anything _ meant, half figures that could mean anything and that was meant as a guide _ anything and that was meant as a guide and — anything and that was meant as a guide and was not full and factual and it's— guide and was not full and factual and it'sjust been a bit of a... from — and it'sjust been a bit of a... from our— and it'sjust been a bit of a... from our point of view we were told the support— from our point of view we were told the support payments would be for life, the support payments would be for life. so _ the support payments would be for life, so people have taken out mortgages on the belief of that and matt hancock on youtube said they were for— matt hancock on youtube said they were for life, not youtube, said they— were for life, not youtube, said they were — were for life, not youtube, said they were for life and now they are saying _ they were for life and now they are saying they are taking that away and the money— saying they are taking that away and the money they suggest they will compensate us with is less than what we would _ compensate us with is less than what we would have with the support payments for life. and the support payments — payments for life. and the support payments were meant to go to our spouses— payments were meant to go to our spouses after we had passed, so basically, — spouses after we had passed, so basically, no, we are not any better off. �* , ., ., ., basically, no, we are not any better off. �* ., ., off. are you worried that you might be worse off _ off. are you worried that you might be worse off overall _ off. are you worried that you might be worse off overall by _ off. are you worried that you might be worse off overall by losing - off. are you worried that you might be worse off overall by losing the l be worse off overall by losing the support payments? yes because basically the amount they are suggesting they will pay esson compensation stop if you figure out how long they might possibly live, is going to be less than you would get in the support payments, basically. get in the support payments, basicall . , . ., basically. they bounce one off auainst basically. they bounce one off against the — basically. they bounce one off against the other. _ basically. they bounce one off against the other. how - basically. they bounce one off against the other. how does i basically. they bounce one offj against the other. how does it basically. they bounce one off- against the other. how does it work? how does the — against the other. how does it work? how does the compensation - against the other. how does it work? how does the compensation scheme | how does the compensation scheme work for you? i know that you look after dena a lot. i work for you? i know that you look after dena a lot.— after dena a lot. i look after dena, and if she died _ after dena a lot. i look after dena, and if she died before _ after dena a lot. i look after dena, and if she died before me, - after dena a lot. i look after dena, and if she died before me, i- after dena a lot. i look after dena, and if she died before me, i would| and if she died before me, iwould then have — and if she died before me, iwould then have received a support payment for my— then have received a support payment for my lifetime. to acknowledge the care i_ for my lifetime. to acknowledge the care i have — for my lifetime. to acknowledge the care i have given dena. as it currently— care i have given dena. as it currently stands, our understanding of it is _ currently stands, our understanding of it is the _ currently stands, our understanding of it is the support payment would stop and _ of it is the support payment would stop and you would just get compensation. dena said, if you look at that. _ compensation. dena said, if you look at that. to _ compensation. dena said, if you look at that, to buying an annuity or talking — at that, to buying an annuity or talking about pension pots, i would need more — talking about pension pots, i would need more than that to maintain the same _ need more than that to maintain the same level— need more than that to maintain the same level that dena now gets. there's— same level that dena now gets. there's a — same level that dena now gets. there's a lot of upset people a lot of frightened _ there's a lot of upset people a lot of frightened people. _ there's a lot of upset people a lot of frightened people. and - there's a lot of upset people a lot of frightened people. and there i there's a lot of upset people a lot i of frightened people. and there are people _ of frightened people. and there are people who — of frightened people. and there are people who have _ of frightened people. and there are people who have gone _ of frightened people. and there are people who have gone a _ of frightened people. and there are people who have gone a while - of frightened people. and there are people who have gone a while afterj people who have gone a while after the news _ people who have gone a while after the news yesterday, _ people who have gone a while after the news yesterday, so _ people who have gone a while after the news yesterday, so they- people who have gone a while after the news yesterday, so they forget| the news yesterday, so they forget we suffer— the news yesterday, so they forget we suffer from _ the news yesterday, so they forget we suffer from mental— the news yesterday, so they forget we suffer from mental health - the news yesterday, so they forget. we suffer from mental health issues and they— we suffer from mental health issues and they are — we suffer from mental health issues and they are worried, _ we suffer from mental health issues and they are worried, as _ we suffer from mental health issues and they are worried, as people - we suffer from mental health issues and they are worried, as people are | and they are worried, as people are planning _ and they are worried, as people are planning on — and they are worried, as people are planning on buying _ and they are worried, as people are planning on buying houses - and they are worried, as people are planning on buying houses and - and they are worried, as people are i planning on buying houses and being comfortable — planning on buying houses and being comfortable and _ planning on buying houses and being comfortable and they _ planning on buying houses and being comfortable and they can't _ planning on buying houses and being comfortable and they can't even - planning on buying houses and being comfortable and they can't even do i comfortable and they can't even do that now _ comfortable and they can't even do that now. ., . ~' comfortable and they can't even do that now. ., ., ,, ., ., that now. you talk about a community. _ that now. you talk about a community, but _ that now. you talk about a community, but this - that now. you talk about a community, but this is - that now. you talk about a community, but this is a i community, but this is a very vulnerable community and lots of ways, notjust physical. edit vulnerable community and lots of ways, notjust physical. ways, not 'ust physical. of course. folks like ways, notjust physical. of course. folks like myself, _ ways, notjust physical. of course. folks like myself, i _ ways, notjust physical. of course. folks like myself, i have _ ways, notjust physical. of course. folks like myself, i have adhd, i ways, notjust physical. of course. i folks like myself, i have adhd, and add to— folks like myself, i have adhd, and add to ptsd to things like that when you have _ add to ptsd to things like that when you have those things, there is one thing _ you have those things, there is one thing said _ you have those things, there is one thing said and it's an imbalance, anyway~ — thing said and it's an imbalance, anyway. but to put that on a whole community— anyway. but to put that on a whole community and see things starting to lo, community and see things starting to go. it's— community and see things starting to go, it's really hard to take. i haven't— go, it's really hard to take. i haven't received anything personally, and important thing was to make _ personally, and important thing was to make sure that the infected get what they— to make sure that the infected get what they should so they can get closure. — what they should so they can get closure, and they can know the families— closure, and they can know the families are supported, so it's a very— families are supported, so it's a very trying — families are supported, so it's a very trying time and on monday it was wonderful, but now it is starting _ was wonderful, but now it is starting to feel like it is building up starting to feel like it is building up and — starting to feel like it is building up and becoming overwhelming again, and again. _ up and becoming overwhelming again, and again, another point where the nhs failed us, even after my dad died. _ nhs failed us, even after my dad died. that— nhs failed us, even after my dad died, that there was no support or grief— died, that there was no support or grief counselling, nothing there to help us— grief counselling, nothing there to help us through those difficult times — help us through those difficult times. and there is still not. i times. and there is still not. think times. and there is still not. i think everybody is shocked by the stories they've heard this week and is heartbroken on your behalf and what you have been through and we have to balance that with the government having limited funds and they are talking about ten or £12 billion of compensation and that lines have to be drawn somewhere. can you understand how the officials who have to administrate this have to make tough decisions or compromising some areas? ida. to make tough decisions or com-uromisin some areas? ., . , compromising some areas? no, because the allow compromising some areas? no, because they allow this — compromising some areas? no, because they allow this to — compromising some areas? no, because they allow this to happen. _ compromising some areas? no, because they allow this to happen. they - they allow this to happen. they tried _ they allow this to happen. they tried to — they allow this to happen. they tried to save _ they allow this to happen. they tried to save money— they allow this to happen. they tried to save money all- they allow this to happen. they tried to save money all those i they allow this to happen. they - tried to save money all those years a-o tried to save money all those years ago and _ tried to save money all those years ago and they— tried to save money all those years ago and they decided _ tried to save money all those years ago and they decided that - tried to save money all those years ago and they decided that our - tried to save money all those years ago and they decided that our life i ago and they decided that our life was expendable _ ago and they decided that our life was expendable to _ ago and they decided that our life was expendable to save - ago and they decided that our life was expendable to save money. i ago and they decided that our life i was expendable to save money. and also. _ was expendable to save money. and also. that _ was expendable to save money. and also. that money— was expendable to save money. and also, that money they _ was expendable to save money. and also, that money they promised - was expendable to save money. and also, that money they promised it. also, that money they promised it was going — also, that money they promised it was going to — also, that money they promised it was going to be _ also, that money they promised it was going to be for— also, that money they promised it was going to be for life _ also, that money they promised it was going to be for life and - also, that money they promised it was going to be for life and it - also, that money they promised it was going to be for life and it was| was going to be for life and it was a support— was going to be for life and it was a support payment— was going to be for life and it was a support payment basically, - was going to be for life and it was a support payment basically, andl a support payment basically, and theyiust — a support payment basically, and theyiust are _ a support payment basically, and theyjust are renaming _ a support payment basically, and theyjust are renaming as - theyjust are renaming as compensation _ theyjust are renaming as compensation and - theyjust are renaming as i compensation and stopping theyjust are renaming as - compensation and stopping the support— compensation and stopping the support payments _ compensation and stopping the support payments which - compensation and stopping the support payments which they. compensation and stopping the i support payments which they said they would — support payments which they said they would never— support payments which they said they would never do. _ support payments which they said they would never do. so - support payments which they said they would never do. so they- support payments which they said | they would never do. so they have lied again~ — they would never do. so they have lied aaain. ~ . ., they would never do. so they have lied aaain. . ., ., ,, they would never do. so they have lied auain.~ ., ., i. they would never do. so they have lied aain_ . ., ., ., lied again. what would you say about that? i can understand _ lied again. what would you say about that? i can understand it _ lied again. what would you say about that? i can understand it will- lied again. what would you say about that? i can understand it will take - that? i can understand it will take to fiaure that? i can understand it will take to figure everything _ that? i can understand it will take to figure everything out. - that? i can understand it will take to figure everything out. i've - that? i can understand it will take to figure everything out. i've lost| to figure everything out. i've lost my father — to figure everything out. i've lost my father and there are people who have lost _ my father and there are people who have lost both parents, sisters, i can see — have lost both parents, sisters, i can see that taking a while and i agree _ can see that taking a while and i agree with — can see that taking a while and i agree with what dena said, i can see it taking _ agree with what dena said, i can see it taking time but there is a framework that has already been in place _ framework that has already been in place and _ framework that has already been in place and it shouldn't take that time _ place and it shouldn't take that time and — place and it shouldn't take that time and shouldn't be that complicated.— time and shouldn't be that complicated. time and shouldn't be that comlicated. . , ., ., complicated. and bearing in mind how lona ou complicated. and bearing in mind how long you have — complicated. and bearing in mind how long you have been _ complicated. and bearing in mind how long you have been waiting, _ complicated. and bearing in mind how long you have been waiting, you - long you have been waiting, you would hope the framework would be ready to go and you would get the answers. . . .., . ready to go and you would get the answers. , , .. , ,, ready to go and you would get the answers. , , , ,, �* ., ready to go and you would get the answers. , ,, �* ., answers. yes because sir brian said last ear, answers. yes because sir brian said last year. pay _ answers. yes because sir brian said last year, pay compensation - answers. yes because sir brian said last year, pay compensation now i answers. yes because sir brian said. last year, pay compensation now and all of— last year, pay compensation now and all of a _ last year, pay compensation now and all of a sudden. — last year, pay compensation now and all of a sudden, after— last year, pay compensation now and all of a sudden, after the _ last year, pay compensation now and all of a sudden, after the report, - all of a sudden, after the report, they— all of a sudden, after the report, they said — all of a sudden, after the report, they said we _ all of a sudden, after the report, they said we are _ all of a sudden, after the report, they said we are paying - they said we are paying compensation, - they said we are paying compensation, so - they said we are paying compensation, so whyl they said we are paying. compensation, so why did they said we are paying - compensation, so why did they they said we are paying _ compensation, so why did they wait until the _ compensation, so why did they wait until the day— compensation, so why did they wait until the day after— compensation, so why did they wait until the day after the _ compensation, so why did they wait until the day after the report? - compensation, so why did they wait until the day after the report? theyj until the day after the report? they could have done _ until the day after the report? they could have done it _ until the day after the report? could have done it last until the day after the report? tip;- could have done it last year. until the day after the report? could have done it last year. we have to leave it there but thank you so much. thank you for your time. still to come on breakfast. we're looking at the impact of climate change on the uk's wet weather. our climate editor, justin rowlatt, is in worcester, where one resident has built his own flood defences. good morning, justin. appropriately enou~h, good morning, justin. appropriately enough. it's — good morning, justin. appropriately enough. it's very — good morning, justin. appropriately enough, it's very rainy _ good morning, justin. appropriately enough, it's very rainy here - good morning, justin. appropriately enough, it's very rainy here in - enough, it's very rainy here in worcester— enough, it's very rainy here in worcester but i'm outside the house of nick— worcester but i'm outside the house of nick lupton who built this fabulous flood wall that people might — fabulous flood wall that people might rememberfrom fabulous flood wall that people might remember from the intense flooding we had during the autumn and winter— flooding we had during the autumn and winter last year and this wall held back— and winter last year and this wall held back the floodwaters from his home _ held back the floodwaters from his home and — held back the floodwaters from his home and actually the video that was made _ home and actually the video that was made by— home and actually the video that was made by the bbc was viewed more than 30 million _ made by the bbc was viewed more than 30 million times. a huge amount of interest— 30 million times. a huge amount of interest on— 30 million times. a huge amount of interest on that and we are here because — interest on that and we are here because researchers have found that the incredibly wet weather we experienced in the autumn and winter last year— experienced in the autumn and winter last year was made four times more likely— last year was made four times more likely by— last year was made four times more likely by climate change and if you lookiust _ likely by climate change and if you look just at likely by climate change and if you lookjust at the rainfall in storms, that was— lookjust at the rainfall in storms, that was made ten times more likely and 20%_ that was made ten times more likely and 20% more intense, so a strong fingerprint. — and 20% more intense, so a strong fingerprint, if you like, of climate change _ fingerprint, if you like, of climate change in — fingerprint, if you like, of climate change in the weather here. we are notjust— change in the weather here. we are notjust getting hotter, we are getting — notjust getting hotter, we are getting wetter as well. now for the travel— getting wetter as well. now for the travel and — getting wetter as well. now for the travel and whether in your area, over— travel and whether in your area, over to — travel and whether in your area, over to our— travel and whether in your area, over to our regional newsrooms. a very good morning from bbc london, i'm alice salfield. neighbours of a woman who was mauled to death by her two xl bully dogs in east london have paid tribute to her saying she was kind and loving. the victim has been named locally as angeline mahal. she was attacked on monday at her home in hornchurch. the two registered dogs were seized after being contained in a room. more than 100 people on five housing estates in south london have been told to look for somewhere else to live. the private tenants had moved onto estates which had been earmarked for regeneration and potential demolition by lambeth council. the council says its homes were let on a short term basis and it will provide vital housing for homeless families. but tenants have accused them of failing to be transparent, with one family saying within months of agreeing to a renewal they were told the landlord wanted the property back. we've told them that this is our home, we want to make it our home, we are looking for a long—term house. yeah, i just felt fooled, because obviously ijust thought that they knew what's going on with the property since day one, they knew their intention and they've never been transparent. drivers are being warned to avoid albert bridge next week as it's closing for essential maintenance. the crossing which connects chelsea to battersea will be shut in both directions from tuesday until saturday. pedestrians and cyclists can still use it, but vehicles will have to follow a diversion. children at a school in north london have been crowned britain's funniest class. it's after a nationwide competition in the beano, which asked pupils to submit their bestjokes. year six at northside primary in finchley took the title with 42% of the vote and will now see their entry featured in the comic. and if you want to find out the winning joke you can head to our website! but now let's take a look at the tubes. we've got a part suspension on thejubilee line with no service between stratford and north greenwich. and minor delays on the northern line. well after all the rain, let's see how the weather's looking today with kate. good morning. another unsettled day today. the rain not perhaps so persistent but we have some frequent, heavy, perhaps thundery showers moving through. the wind is a bit stronger today so they will race through fairly quickly. temperatures today getting up to just somewhere between 14 and 16 celsius so feeling a little chillier. overnight those daytime showers will fade, becoming dry, still quite cloudy at least for a time but we mightjust see that cloud break a little as we head through to dawn. the minimum temperature double figures, around 10 celsius. now, low pressurejust starts to shift northwards as we head through thursday. we may get a bit of cloud to start with but it should start to thin and break, it is a much drier day tomorrow. there is a small chance of a shower but largely dry and in the sunshine, temperatures still feeling quite cool, actually. still breezy tomorrow, the maximum just 17 celsius. as we head towards the end of the week, and into the bank holiday weekend, it is looking a little more settled and the temperature with those sunny spells getting back up to around 20 celsius. that's it but you can get all the latest on the bbc news app. now it's back to sally and jon. hello, this is breakfast with sally nugent and jon kay. in the last half hour, we've found out that inflation has fallen to 2.3%. it's the lowest level in almost three years, but is still above the government's target of 2%. let's speak to the chancellor, jeremy hunt. he chancellor, jeremy hunt. joins us from north—west good he joins us from north—west london, good morning. it begins with a two but it is not quite 2%, a bit above, are you slightly disappointed that you are not back at your target? know, because it is down nearly 1% since the last inflation numbers we have had, and it is now lower than the united states or the eurozone, and for families worried about cost of living pressures, it will be a real relief that inflation has fallen finally to much more normal levels. however prices are still much higher than they were a year ago, the level of prices is still higher, which is why we need to continue to stick to the plan to get inflation down to the 2% target. i think what will encourage those families is that yesterday the international monetary fund confirmed that going forward, they believe the uk economy will grow faster than france, germany, believe the uk economy will grow fasterthan france, germany, italy, orjapan, any other large european country, and japan. so when people are thinking about their prospects, the security of theirjobs, the things that can really worry people, whether university jet graduates things that can really worry people, whether universityjet graduates are going to getjobs, those signs are very encouraging. the managing director of the imf said that the uk is in a good play. fin director of the imf said that the uk is in a good play-— is in a good play. on innovation cominu is in a good play. on innovation coming down — is in a good play. on innovation coming down to _ is in a good play. on innovation coming down to 2.3%, - is in a good play. on innovation coming down to 2.3%, it - is in a good play. on innovation coming down to 2.3%, it is - is in a good play. on innovationl coming down to 2.3%, it is down is in a good play. on innovation - coming down to 2.3%, it is down to the bank of england, isn't it? they are independent of government, you have nothing to do with them, they set interest rates, if everybody should get credit for this, it is them, isn't it?— should get credit for this, it is them, isn't it? , . . ., , them, isn't it? they have certainly taken action. _ them, isn't it? they have certainly taken action, we _ them, isn't it? they have certainly taken action, we have _ them, isn't it? they have certainly taken action, we have supported i them, isn't it? they have certainly - taken action, we have supported them in that. the managing director of the international monetary fund yesterday said that it was difficult decisions by rishi sunak, myself and the governor of the bank of england, in particular in order to support the bank of england we had to take very hard decisions a year and a half ago in that autumn statement where we had to put up some taxes unfortunately and cut some spending plans, taken together that has created the environment that has meant that as she said, the uk is now approaching a soft landing. there is a very difficult thing to do when you have inflation at 11%. the bank of england was predicting the longest recession in 100 years. we have actually, by the action that all of us had taken, been able to bring down inflation to normal levels, without that. in fact living standards have slightly risen over the past year. i think people will be relieved that that has happened. but in an election year, we will be saying that as the country that has created morejobs saying that as the country that has created more jobs than saying that as the country that has created morejobs than nearly anywhere else in europe, that is because of difficult decisions taken by me and my conservative predecessors on having a flexible labour, market, getting taxes down and reforming welfare that the labour government would not take and thatis labour government would not take and that is the big choice we face in an election year. that is the big choice we face in an election year-— that is the big choice we face in an election year. let's talk about your predecessors. _ election year. let's talk about your predecessors, kwasi _ election year. let's talk about your predecessors, kwasi kwarteng - election year. let's talk about your predecessors, kwasi kwarteng was chancellor under liz truss, we have had an e—mail in from our reviewer chris who has said, i hopejeremy hunt is not going to post about this as a glowing success of this government. he's saying part of the problem that you are dealing with that we are all living with is the liz truss what he calls the particle, and that the information we are still living with should not have got this point in the first place —— the liz truss debacle, and the conservatives are to blame for the conservatives are to blame for the situation you say you are trying to meet correct.— the situation you say you are trying to meet correct. there were mistakes made in that — to meet correct. there were mistakes made in that in _ to meet correct. there were mistakes made in that in the _ to meet correct. there were mistakes made in that in the mini _ to meet correct. there were mistakes made in that in the mini budget, - to meet correct. there were mistakes made in that in the mini budget, and| made in that in the mini budget, and the first thing that rishi sunak and myself did was to try to correct those. it's wrong to say that those in the main reasons for the pressures we have been facing. living standards have fallen by more in countries like germany, austria and sweden, and the principal cause of the problems we have been having is a once in a century pandemic, a global 19705 style is a once in a century pandemic, a global 19705 5tyle energy shock caused by the invasion of ukraine, and that has caused inflation to go up and that has caused inflation to go up everywhere which means all countries have earned very difficult choices. but looking forward, what independent experts like the international monetary fund say is notjust international monetary fund say is not just that the uk international monetary fund say is notjust that the uk has turned the corner, but our prospects are very good compared to similar countrie5. and the amount of foreign investment we are getting in greenfield investment, foreigners want to build offices and factories here, we have attracted more of that than anywhere else in the world apart from the united states and china since 2010. so foreigners are saying, when want to invest our dollars to get the best return? it's the uk with our incredibly strong technology and life science industries, they see the opportunities here. you life science industries, they see the opportunities here.- life science industries, they see the opportunities here. you are very keen to talk — the opportunities here. you are very keen to talk about _ the opportunities here. you are very keen to talk about the _ the opportunities here. you are very keen to talk about the internationall keen to talk about the international monetary fund and what they say about the economy. let me point out another thing they said in their report. they have warned you against cutting taxes ahead of an election, saying the economy cannot stand it, you don't have enough money, will you don't have enough money, will you bear that in mind you don't have enough money, will you bearthat in mind in you don't have enough money, will you bear that in mind in the months ahead? ~ ., , ., ., ahead? well, we actually had a disagreement _ ahead? well, we actually had a disagreement with _ ahead? well, we actually had a disagreement with them - ahead? well, we actually had a disagreement with them on - ahead? well, we actually had a| disagreement with them on that point. b. disagreement with them on that oint. �* . . . disagreement with them on that oint. ~ ,, . point. a respectful disagreement... you cannot — point. a respectful disagreement... you cannot pick— point. a respectful disagreement... you cannot pick and _ point. a respectful disagreement... you cannot pick and choose. - point. a respectful disagreement... you cannot pick and choose. you i point. a respectful disagreement... | you cannot pick and choose. you say you agree with your figures... let you agree with your figures. .. let me explain _ you agree with your figures... let me explain why we disagree, the fastest growing economies in north america and asia are ones which tend to have lower taxes. they said they did accept that some tax cuts help growth and they did understand that the national insurance cuts that we have introduced are going to help fill vacancies and help companies expand that they were not against those in principle. 50 expand that they were not against those in principle.— expand that they were not against those in principle. so you are going to cut taxes. _ those in principle. so you are going to cut taxes, ignore _ those in principle. so you are going to cut taxes, ignore their _ those in principle. so you are going to cut taxes, ignore their warnings | to cut taxes, ignore their warnings and do it before an election. look what we have _ and do it before an election. look what we have done. _ and do it before an election. look what we have done. you - and do it before an election. look what we have done. you are, i and do it before an election. look what we have done. you are, you | and do it before an election. look i what we have done. you are, you are auoin to what we have done. you are, you are going to do — what we have done. you are, you are going to do it- _ what we have done. you are, you are going to do it. yeah, _ what we have done. you are, you are going to do it. yeah, well, _ what we have done. you are, you are going to do it. yeah, well, hang i what we have done. you are, you are going to do it. yeah, well, hang on. | going to do it. yeah, well, hang on. we haven't — going to do it. yeah, well, hang on. we haven't announced _ going to do it. yeah, well, hang on. we haven't announced that - going to do it. yeah, well, hang on. we haven't announced that we i going to do it. yeah, well, hang on. we haven't announced that we are l we haven't announced that we are going to... i we haven't announced that we are going t0- - -— we haven't announced that we are going to- - -— going to... i think you 'ust have! we going to... i think you 'ust have! we haven-t * going to... i think you 'ust have! we haven't made _ going to... i think you 'ust have! we haven't made a _ going to... i think you just have! we haven't made a decision - going to... i think you just have! we haven't made a decision on | going to... i think you just have! - we haven't made a decision on that. we haven't made a decision on that. we haven't made a decision on that. we have not. we have said that we will make a decision when the time is right. we will make a decision when the time is riuht. ~ ., ., , ., is right. we want to bring down the tax burden because _ is right. we want to bring down the tax burden because that _ is right. we want to bring down the tax burden because that is - is right. we want to bring down the tax burden because that is one - is right. we want to bring down the tax burden because that is one of l tax burden because that is one of the great divide in british politics, laboursaid the great divide in british politics, labour said they do not think we should bring down the tax burden. rachel reeves spoke for more than an hour in her speech and she did not once mention bringing down the tax burden. when families are facing cost of living pressures to put an extra £900 into people's pocket on the average salary makes a difference. but most importantly, it's good for growing the economy and that's why we think it is very important that we do the hard work to keep bringing down taxes. tom to keep bringing down taxes. two minutes ago. _ to keep bringing down taxes. two minutes ago, you told us that kwasi kwarteng and liz truss made mistakes. with the economy. and now you are saying that you are prepared, very prepared by the sounds of it, to cut taxes against all of the warnings from the imf. are you potentially kwasi kwarteng 2.0? ., ., are you potentially kwasi kwarteng 2.0? a, a, , a, a a, 2.0? no, and i very made it clear that, m 2.0? no, and i very made it clear that. my record — 2.0? no, and i very made it clear that, my record demonstrates, i 2.0? no, and i very made it clear. that, my record demonstrates, that every time we have cut taxes, it's because we can afford to do it and we have done it without increasing borrowing. that was the mistake that kwasi kwarteng made. ithink borrowing. that was the mistake that kwasi kwarteng made. i think it's very important, if you look back since 2010 at the record of successive conservative governments, we have actually grown faster than any major european economy. and as we said and the imf said, we will continue to grow faster than any major european economy and that is because conservative governments are prepared to take difficult decisions that a labour government would not. the labour priority is to increase spending, they have not funded all of their spending plans, we think they would have to put up taxes by about £2000 per household to do that. that is a big divide in british politics. and we need to have that debate about the future because this is an election year. and what international commentators say is that the uk economy is in a good place at the moment and we want to make sure that continues. louie good place at the moment and we want to make sure that continues.— to make sure that continues. we will be sneaking — to make sure that continues. we will be speaking to _ to make sure that continues. we will be speaking to labour— to make sure that continues. we will be speaking to labour about - to make sure that continues. we will be speaking to labour about their. be speaking to labour about their plans shortly. can i talk to you about the compensation about the infected blood scandal, we had just beenjoined by infected blood scandal, we had just been joined by some of the victims, i know you were health secretary yourself and this is close to your heart. we are hearing a figure of £10 billion for the accommodation package, is that the kind of figure you are envisaging having to pay out? ., _, , ., out? -- for the compensation package? _ out? -- for the compensation package? we _ out? -- for the compensation package? we do _ out? -- for the compensation package? we do not - out? -- for the compensation package? we do not know - out? -- for the compensation | package? we do not know the out? -- for the compensation - package? we do not know the final number. we have appointed sir robert francis to chair the organisation which will be responsible for giving out the compensation and we have asked him to give us an estimate. it may be, it is certainly many billions of pounds. this is a terrible injustice and we will as the prime minister said pay what it takes and we want to honour the recommendations as to the amounts necessary made by the inquiry. eome necessary made by the inquiry. some victims have — necessary made by the inquiry. some victims have told _ necessary made by the inquiry. some victims have told us _ necessary made by the inquiry. some victims have told us this _ necessary made by the inquiry. some victims have told us this morning that they are baffled, confused, disappointed that they have not got the information and potentially the support going forward that they were hoping. . support going forward that they were hoina. ~ support going forward that they were ho . in i _ . ., support going forward that they were hoina. ~ . . hoping. . we have given as much information _ hoping. . we have given as much information that _ hoping. . we have given as much information that we _ hoping. . we have given as much information that we were - hoping. . we have given as much information that we were able i hoping. . we have given as much information that we were able to | hoping. . we have given as much i information that we were able to do thatis information that we were able to do that is consistent with the report but perhaps i could explain to them that one of the things that was made very clear in the report is the way we take this compensation forward should notjust be a decision made by a government minister, and the money given out, we need to have an independent body chaired by someone independent body chaired by someone independent which sir robert francis certainly will be, and that person needs to go through claims in detail. 50 it takes longer, but it is fairer. in order to make sure people get paid as much as possible as quickly as possible, we are going to do further interim payments and we will get theirs out as quickly as possible to the people, the 4000 people whose names and addresses we know, but there will be other people who come forward because of knowledge of what's happened, and that will obviously take a little bit longer. we want to do this as quickly as possible. there is absolutely no one in government saying, slow this down because we do not want to get the money out of the door, we do. but we want to do it in a way that is consistent with what their prime lang star's recommendations were. one last ruestion, recommendations were. one last question. the _ recommendations were. one last question, the issue _ recommendations were. one last question, the issue of _ recommendations were. one last question, the issue of unpaid - recommendations were. one last i question, the issue of unpaid carers is something we talk about here. some of them have unwittingly gone over the limit with their earnings and have been forced to paid back thousands of pounds byjust going over by a couple of pence. the total that they have to pay back the state is about £250 million, and a lot of people are struggling with that. would you be prepared to let them off that? i would you be prepared to let them off that? ~ , . , off that? i think it is fair, first off that? i think it is fair, first of all, unpaid _ off that? i think it is fair, first of all, unpaid carers - off that? i think it is fair, first of all, unpaid carers do - off that? i think it is fair, first of all, unpaid carers do an - off that? i think it is fair, first - of all, unpaid carers do an amazing job and that is what we recognise in the benefit system with the carer�*s allowance. it has gone up by i think £1500 per year since conservatives came to office so we recognise the brilliant role they do. it's also important to the taxpayers who pay for benefits that people only receive what they are entitled to. so we are trying to set up a system that stops people inadvertently claiming more than they should, so that they let us know earlier. we are trying to get that system right because we want to be fair to taxpayers as well as to people who do this brilliant role in society. we have to leave it there i know you have other interviews to do. thank you. have other interviews to do. thank ou. ., have other interviews to do. thank ou. . carol is with us in the studio this morning. it is a bit chilly out where we are. it is, it is more chilly everywhere this morning, and potentially wet as well. we have got some torrential rain, this is a weather watcher picture and you can see it is a wet start to the day in derbyshire. the next few days, it is going to be cooler, it will be cloudier, and many of us will see some of that heavy rain. talking of such things, low pressure is bringing that in, driving the weather notjust today but tomorrow and to an extent on friday. the bank holiday weekend is looking drier with fewer showers, and warmer. this morning the met office has issued an amber weather warning, be prepared for impact because of the severity of the weather, valid from 12 today until noon tomorrow, in all of these areas across northern england and north wales. we could have up to 150 millimetres of rain on the hills, possibly more than that. it is likely to cause some disruption to travel and the risk of localised flooding. you can see the track that the rain is taking pushing north and west, to the south of it, southern coastal counties will have heavy and thundery showers potentially, thundery showers potentially, thunder and lightning already this morning, the rain while tracking across parts of scotland, clipped eastern parts of northern ireland and we had gusty winds across the west coast of scotland and northern ireland. these other temperatures, 13 to 18. if you are stuck under the heavy persistent rain, it will feel colder, 13 degrees. the rain continues to push north in through the rest of scotland and a bit more of northern ireland and wales. the rainfall totals will be picking up and it will be a windy night, temperatures eight to 12 degrees. tomorrow low pressure in a serial area and the rain falling in a similararea, area and the rain falling in a similar area, still heavy and persistent. windy but further south we have something drier and brighter with some sunshine, we cannot rule out a shower. but 13 to 18 degrees, not that long ago we had 23 and 24. by not that long ago we had 23 and 24. by the time we get to thursday you can see the rainfall totals that we are looking at. the scale is up here, where we have brighter colours we have 80 to 90 millimetres, but possibly more on the hills. on friday low pressure will start to loosen its grip on us so we see a fair bit of cloud, some showers in the north, but by the end of the day we should start to see some of that breakdown and season sunshine coming our way. as for the bank holiday weekend, sunshine and showers will be the order of the day, more sunshine than showers, and it is going to feel warmer than it has done. in the last few minutes, paula vennells, the former chief executive of the post office, has arrived at the inquiry into the horizon it scandal. just to remind you, she was chief executive of the post office between 2012 and 2019. you can see the intense interest in her as she arrives. it's the first time she will have spoken about this publicly in around a decade. during the time she was in charge postmasters were still being prosecuted but the post office continued to deny that the horizon software was faulty, despite mounting evidence. just horizon software was faulty, despite mounting evidence.— horizon software was faulty, despite mounting evidence. just saw somebody with their arm — mounting evidence. just saw somebody with their arm around _ mounting evidence. just saw somebody with their arm around her _ mounting evidence. just saw somebody with their arm around her protecting i with their arm around her protecting her, surrounded by the police escort, dozens of photographers, journalists throwing questions, but the real questioning will begin under oath at the inquiry this morning, the first of three days of paula vennells giving evidence. full coverage of that important moment in the post office scandal across bbc news over the next few days. today is the seventh anniversary of the manchester arena attack, which killed 22 people. to mark the date, the mother of one of the victims will complete an almost 200—mile walk from manchester to downing street, as part of her campaign for greater security at public venues. figen murray has called for legislation, known as martyn's law, since her son martyn hett died in the bombing. let's have a look at her journey so far. honest to god, things we have to deal with and go through to get this damn legislation done. figen murrayjoins us now. morning, figen. a significant day for you, a significant date, after this very, very long journey you have undertaken, how are you feeling about the day ahead? ishireii. have undertaken, how are you feeling about the day ahead?— about the day ahead? well, it's auoin to about the day ahead? well, it's going to be _ about the day ahead? well, it's going to be a — about the day ahead? well, it's going to be a momentous - about the day ahead? well, it's going to be a momentous day. | about the day ahead? well, it's| going to be a momentous day. i normally go quiet on the anniversary, switch all my social media off, and just have a day of reflection. today is going to be totally the opposite, i'm going to be very out there. but it's for an important reason, obviously. that reason being. _ important reason, obviously. that reason being, you _ important reason, obviously. that reason being, you will— important reason, obviously. that reason being, you will get to downing street in a couple of miles time with a letter, what does the letter to the prime minister say? the letter is basically asking the prime minister to give us an absolute guaranteed date for when the legislation is going to go to parliament. it's been five years since the campaign started, and i have had a telephone conversation in december 2022 on what would have been martyn's 35th birthday, on the 15th of december 22, and in this telephone conversation rishi sunak told me that he was very committed told me that he was very committed to the legislation and he will get it done as soon as possible. and that 18 months ago. so i basically now asking him to keep his promise. figen, that phone call and the earlier promise, that's why you started this walk in the first place, i guess. started this walk in the first place, iguess. on started this walk in the first place, i guess. on thejourney that you have been on, what have you learned, who have you spoken to and who has helped you?— who has helped you? well, we have soken to who has helped you? well, we have spoken to lots _ who has helped you? well, we have spoken to lots of _ who has helped you? well, we have spoken to lots of security _ who has helped you? well, we have spoken to lots of security experts i spoken to lots of security experts who are confirming that this legislation is absolutely important, and we have had lots of support on the way, we had people from the ambulance service, fire service join us, we have had the general public join us, people beeping their horns in support. we have had lots of people from education, the academic side, lots of people walked with us and also more importantly we have had other victims of terrorism who walked with us alongside because they, like me, don't want this to happen to anyone else again. which must have made _ happen to anyone else again. which must have made this _ happen to anyone else again. which must have made this an _ happen to anyone else again. which must have made this an enormously emotional experience for you, exhausting and emotional. yes. emotional experience for you, exhausting and emotional. yes, yeah, ou are exhausting and emotional. yes, yeah, you are right — exhausting and emotional. yes, yeah, you are right on _ exhausting and emotional. yes, yeah, you are right on both _ exhausting and emotional. yes, yeah, you are right on both counts. - exhausting and emotional. yes, yeah, you are right on both counts. we - you are right on both counts. we have had very emotional moments because people have been so kind and literallyjust because people have been so kind and literally just shared this journey with us. but also, we have had, obviously, challenging moments, the weather has been very challenging in both ways, we have had rain and we will have rain today for the last three miles we are doing, unfortunately, but we have also had sunshine and although that is very welcome, when you walk all day, it can get rather tedious, the sun! and can get rather tedious, the sun! and i imaaine can get rather tedious, the sun! and i imagine today, figen, you will not be taking any, i don't know, how can i put this? you are going to want a very specific answer from rishi sunak, aren't you? absolutely, i would like _ sunak, aren't you? absolutely, i would like a _ sunak, aren't you? absolutely, i would like a date, _ sunak, aren't you? absolutely, i would like a date, please, - sunak, aren't you? absolutely, i would like a date, please, when | sunak, aren't you? absolutely, i - would like a date, please, when this is going to be introduced in parliament. as i said i am a very patient person, but i have waited 18 months since that focal and it's about time he commits to it with a proper date. about time he commits to it with a proper date-— proper date. and when you get to downin: proper date. and when you get to downing street, _ proper date. and when you get to downing street, and _ proper date. and when you get to downing street, and you - proper date. and when you get to downing street, and you finally i proper date. and when you get to i downing street, and you finally have a rest after the 200 miles, is there one moment, one encounter that will always stay in your mind which sums up always stay in your mind which sums up what this journey has been like for you? we up what this 'ourney has been like for ou? ~ ., up what this 'ourney has been like for ou? ~ . ., for you? we have even had little children walk _ for you? we have even had little children walk with _ for you? we have even had little children walk with us. _ for you? we have even had little children walk with us. there - for you? we have even had little children walk with us. there are | for you? we have even had little i children walk with us. there are so many special moments during that walk. i couldn't pinpoint any single one, to be honest. the whole two weeks walking has been an emotional roller—coaster, really, if i'm honest. me personally, we had funny moments as well. me personally, i am only five foot short, and i have walked over 500,000, more than half a million steps. my co—campaigner nick is much taller and he was on 10,000 steps a day less than me. so they were funny moments. on the whole it has been incredible. and whole it has been incredible. and all of it with _ whole it has been incredible. and all of it with martyn's backpack on your shoulders.— all of it with martyn's backpack on your shoulders. yes, absolutely. i had martyn's _ your shoulders. yes, absolutely. i had martyn's backpack— your shoulders. yes, absolutely. i had martyn's backpack with - your shoulders. yes, absolutely. i had martyn's backpack with me i your shoulders. yes, absolutely. ii had martyn's backpack with me all the time. most of the time, there was one day it was raining so heavily i didn't want to get it wet but most of the time and it is with me now. we but most of the time and it is with me now. ~ , , ., me now. we wish you well with the last three miles, _ me now. we wish you well with the last three miles, good _ me now. we wish you well with the last three miles, good luck. - me now. we wish you well with the last three miles, good luck. thank| last three miles, good luck. thank ou, last three miles, good luck. thank you. thank — last three miles, good luck. thank you. thank you — last three miles, good luck. thank you, thank you very _ last three miles, good luck. thank you, thank you very much. - still to come on breakfast. we'll catch up with craig mckinley and his family. the conservative mp returns to parliament today, after having both hands and feet amputated because of sepsis. he says he wants to become the bionic mp. he is back at work today, i'm sure they will be plenty of people there to greet him, delighted to see him back. ~ ., ., to greet him, delighted to see him back. . . . , ., , to greet him, delighted to see him back. ~ . ., , ., , ., to greet him, delighted to see him back. . ., , ., , time now to get the news, travel and weather where you are. a very good morning from bbc london, i'm alice salfield. neighbours of a woman who was mauled to death by her two xl bully dogs in east london have paid tribute to her — saying she was kind and loving. the victim has been named locally as angeline mahal. she was attacked on monday at her home in hornchurch. the two registered dogs were seized after being contained in a room. more than 100 people on five housing estates in south london have been told to look for somewhere else to live. the private tenants had moved onto estates which had been earmarked for regeneration and potential demolition by lambeth council. the council says its homes were let on a short term basis and it will provide vital housing for homeless families. but tenants have accused them of failing to be transparent. we've told them that this is our home, we want to make it our home, we are looking for a long—term house. yeah, i just felt fooled, because obviously ijust thought that they knew what's going on with the property since day one, they knew their intention and they've never been transparent. now let's take a look at the tubes. we've got severe delays on thejubilee line and minor delays on the northern line. today's weather. rain will come and go all day — with some showers heavy and thundery. a gentle breeze with a top temperature of 17 degrees celsius. that's it, but you can get all the latest on the bbc news app. now it's back to sally and jon. bye— bye. good morning and welcome to breakfast with sally nugent and jon kay. our headlines today. face to face with the victims of the post office scandal. former chief executive paula vennells arrives at the public inquiry to finally give evidence inflation falls to 2.3%. closer to the government's target. close — but not quite there. price rises have crept much closer to normal — but i look at why our budgets are still feeling far from it. tributes are paid to 73—year—old geoff kitchen who died after a plane hit severe turbulance on its way from london to singapore mp craig mackinlay almost died after contracting sepsis. today he returns to parliament having had both his hands and feet amputated. this puts life into context. we probably— this puts life into context. we probably spend too much time in westminster, away from family, chasing — westminster, away from family, chasing this, that and the other. heavy— chasing this, that and the other. heavy rain— chasing this, that and the other. heavy rain is pushing across england and wales_ heavy rain is pushing across england and wales at— heavy rain is pushing across england and wales at the _ heavy rain is pushing across england and wales at the moment _ heavy rain is pushing across england and wales at the moment and - heavy rain is pushing across england and wales at the moment and will i and wales at the moment and will move _ and wales at the moment and will move into — and wales at the moment and will move into scotland _ and wales at the moment and will move into scotland through - and wales at the moment and will move into scotland through the i move into scotland through the course — move into scotland through the course of — move into scotland through the course of the _ move into scotland through the course of the day _ move into scotland through the course of the day and _ move into scotland through the course of the day and clipped i move into scotland through the i course of the day and clipped the east of— course of the day and clipped the east of northern _ course of the day and clipped the east of northern ireland. - course of the day and clipped the east of northern ireland. for- course of the day and clipped the east of northern ireland. for the| east of northern ireland. for the rest of— east of northern ireland. for the rest of us, — east of northern ireland. for the rest of us, overcast _ east of northern ireland. for the rest of us, overcast with - east of northern ireland. for the rest of us, overcast with heavy. rest of us, overcast with heavy showers — rest of us, overcast with heavy showers and _ rest of us, overcast with heavy showers and i _ rest of us, overcast with heavy showers and i will _ rest of us, overcast with heavy showers and i will have - rest of us, overcast with heavy showers and i will have all- rest of us, overcast with heavy showers and i will have all of. rest of us, overcast with heavy. showers and i will have all of the details _ showers and i will have all of the details shortly. _ it's wednesday 22 may. our main story. in the last half hour, the former chief executive of the post office, paula vennells, has arrived at the public inquiry into the horizon it scandal later today. our correspondent is outside the hearing. that was quite a moment as she went in. hearing. that was quite a moment as she went in-— she went in. yes, indeed, and gives ou a she went in. yes, indeed, and gives you a sense — she went in. yes, indeed, and gives you a sense of _ she went in. yes, indeed, and gives you a sense of how— she went in. yes, indeed, and gives you a sense of how much _ she went in. yes, indeed, and gives you a sense of how much interest i you a sense of how much interest there _ you a sense of how much interest there is— you a sense of how much interest there is and — you a sense of how much interest there is and how important today is in this— there is and how important today is in this public inquiry where we have seen _ in this public inquiry where we have seen so _ in this public inquiry where we have seen so many high—profile figures, none _ seen so many high—profile figures, none more — seen so many high—profile figures, none more so than paula vennells who will begin— none more so than paula vennells who will begin her evidence today. i should — will begin her evidence today. i should warn you flashing images are coming _ should warn you flashing images are coming up _ should warn you flashing images are coming up but in the last few nrinutes— coming up but in the last few minutes she arrived about 50 yards down _ minutes she arrived about 50 yards down the _ minutes she arrived about 50 yards down the road and the scrum around her was _ down the road and the scrum around her was so _ down the road and the scrum around her was so big that at some point she could — her was so big that at some point she could not move towards the door, that door— she could not move towards the door, that door that she goes through where _ that door that she goes through where she gives evidence today stop nothing _ where she gives evidence today stop nothing that she says or reveals will undo — nothing that she says or reveals will undo the harm or suffering that so many— will undo the harm or suffering that so many of— will undo the harm or suffering that so many of the sub—postmasters have been through but they hope to find out the _ been through but they hope to find out the truth about what was known and when _ out the truth about what was known and when and why certain decisions were made — and when and why certain decisions were made. let's look at paula vennells — were made. let's look at paula vennells role in the post office from _ vennells role in the post office from my— vennells role in the post office from my colleague, emma simpson. it's 2012, and paula vennells is in herfirst year as the new boss of the post office. she's already spent half a decade with the business. and here she's on a visit to the shop floor. retail is detail. i don't know whoever it was that said that, but it is that. and you come to places like this and you find out the little things that make the operation much more efficient. back then, the post office was haemorrhaging money. the pressure is on to turn things around. but did she put profits before people? there's a sack full of questions waiting for her now. lee bought the bridlington branch in 2003. the losses soon began. here he is after the post office made him bankrupt with huge legal costs as they pursued him in court. so important for me personally that i understand. 20 years on, hejust wants some answers. i'm not looking for her to be crucified or anything like that. i'm just looking for the truth. why, who, what, when? ijust need to understand just to help me in myjourney. politicians had plenty of dealings with paula vennells, too. i don't expect there to be many gotcha moments because her solicitors are very good. lord arbuthnot played a key role, putting pressure on the post office to come clean. the inquiry�*s likely to ask about this appearance before mps when she defended the faulty horizon it system. if there had been any miscarriages ofjustice, it would have been really important to me and the post office that we actually surface those and as the investigations have gone through so far, we've had no evidence of that. she must have known of the clerk advice which referred to one fujitsu witness who had misled the court and who has now been referred to the metropolitan police in view of some of the evidence that he gave. and how did she square what she said in 2015 with what the barrister had told her and the rest of the post office in 2013? in guildford, a theatre fills up with people who've come to hear more about the scandal. they're here to listen to the journalist who has spent years helping expose the truth. for him, leadership or lack of it is key. if your business prosecutes people, prosecuting people is the most important part of your business and you need to be all over it. and i don't think she was. she relied on post office loyalists and highly paid legal advisers to tell her the truth she wanted to hear. and i think now it's time that we heard the actual truth from her. the stage now set for the biggest moment in the public inquiry. paula vennells' solicitors say she's focused on cooperating with it, breaking her silence for the first time in almost a decade. emma simpson, bbc news. in the last few minutes paula venables arrived to give evidence to the inquiry. flashing images coming up, i should worry —— paula vennells. during the short walk as her car pulled up down the road, such as the interest in her appearance and she is such a crucial figure that the scrum of camera crews and photographers try to get footage of her was so intense that she could not move up the road. police were here and they are not always hear out the inquiry but they know she is such a hope profile person of such interest that there was this police presence to make sure things did not get out of hand. she was very much front and centre of the itv drama that brought the scandal to wider public attention and she is someone who is relatively private but today she finds herself in the spotlight once again when she will be asked questions that the victims of the scandal hope will shed light and give answers to the questions they have waited years to find the answers to. in the last hour, we've found out that uk inflation fell to 2.3% in the 12 months to april. it means that prices are rising at a more normal rate — but haven't quite slowed to where the government would like them to be. nina can explain. for the last two years the cost of living crisis has been at the forefront of the mind in most households. that's because of inflation and how quickly prices are rising. that includes everything from the supermarket shop to energy bills, to filling up the car or buying a new telly. so inflation was 2.3% — that is today's update and it represents a huge slow down in price rises. remember it leaped to 11.1% in october 2022 — when energy prices rocketed. this was a 40—year high and it was a shock to every household. and it's still above the bank of england's target of 2% — that's where price rises are seen as healthy; growth that's under control. being in that ballpark represents a relief for the government and today the chancellor recognised there is still some way to go. for the chancellor recognised there is still some way to go.— still some way to go. for families worried about _ still some way to go. for families worried about cost _ still some way to go. for families worried about cost of _ still some way to go. for families worried about cost of living i worried about cost of living pressures it will be a real relief that inflation has fallen finally to normal levels but prices are still much higher than they were a year ago and the level of prices is still higher which is why we need to continue to stick to the plan to get inflation down to the 2% target. can the government claim this move in the government claim this move in the right direction? energy prices came down following the war in the ukraine but it was also the bank of england playing a key role by increasing interest rates, so does that mean they start to bring them down to help with mortgages? food inflation has been falling and some businesses are starting to feel a slight creep towards normalcy. it does seem to think that things are plateauing and i hope the pressure is eased _ plateauing and i hope the pressure is eased a — plateauing and i hope the pressure is eased a bit in the next few months _ is eased a bit in the next few months and we can start passing it on to— months and we can start passing it on to customers and employees as well which — on to customers and employees as well which will be brilliant for everyone. well which will be brilliant for everyone-— well which will be brilliant for eve one. , . ., ., everyone. things chugging along in the riaht everyone. things chugging along in the right direction. _ everyone. things chugging along in the right direction. for— everyone. things chugging along in the right direction. for you - everyone. things chugging along in the right direction. for you at i everyone. things chugging along in| the right direction. for you at home things are probably still is sticky and its probable your mortgage or rent has gone up and you are stuck there and you might still be reeling when you go to the supermarket and its possible you had to hit the savings to get through the last two years and may be that summer holiday is looking unlikely. the last two years have given the economy the shock of a generation. and we will all be catching our breath for some time. ., ., ~ all be catching our breath for some time. . ., ~ i. tributes have been paid to a 73—year—old british man who died when a singapore airlines flight from london hit severe turbulence and dropped around 6,000 feet within four minutes. dozens of injured passengers — and some crew — are still receiving medical treatment in thailand, but most of those onboard have finally arrived in singapore. our reporter paul hawkins has more. relief and gratitude at changi airport. over 140 airline staff and passengers finally completing their nightmare journey, including this student. i didn't understand at all the full scale of what happened until we landed. like, i didn't realise the things that broke within the airplane, the dents that were made in overhead luggage compartments, and all the additional kind of paneling above our heads. like, i thought it was just the oxygen masks coming out and then popping out the panel. but in fact, like, heads had literally pushed through and broken those plastic panels. and like, there'sjust blood and there's bits and pieces just broken everywhere. this was how some left the boeing 777 after it was forced to land in bangkok. some in a critical condition while dozens were injured during sudden severe air turbulence. tough day? definitely, yes. worst in my life, actually. suddenly that plane plunged. i don't know how far, but they said 6000 feet. it didn't seem like 6000 feet, but it was a long way. and so sudden — there was no warning at all. and i ended up hitting my head on the ceiling. my wife did. some poor people who were walking around ended up doing somersaults. 73—year—old geoff kitchen from gloucestershire wasn't so fortunate. the retired insurance man died from a heart attack. his theatre group describing him as a gentleman with honesty and integrity. the flight with 229 people on board left london late on monday night, bound for singapore. but on the final leg near the myanmar coast, it ran into difficulty. dozens are still being treated for their injuries in bangkok. an investigation is underway. paul hawkins, bbc news. a former royal marine charged with assisting the hong kong intelligence service has been found dead in a park in maidenhead. 37—year—old matthew trickett, who was a home office immigration officer, appeared in court last week, charged under the national security act. his death is being treated as unexplained. wylfe in anglesey has been chosen by the government as the preferred site for a large—scale nuclear power plant, similar to that at hinkley in somerset. the japanese firm hitachi suspended plans to build on the site in 2019, after it failed to secure government funding. ministers said the site would provide thousands ofjobs. a nursery nurse will be sentenced today for the manslaughter of a nine—month—old baby at tiny toes nursery in stockport in may 2022. kate roughley strapped genevieve meehan face down to a beanbag and left her for 90 minutes. police in england have been told to consider making fewer arrests, because of a lack of space in prisons. in a letter seen by the bbc, the national police chiefs council warns forces that the current situation is unsustainable. our chief political correspondent, henry zeffman is in westminster for us this morning. henry, how will this news he received by mps? what will they make of the word unsustainable?— what will they make of the word unsustainable? they will be pretty concerned because _ unsustainable? they will be pretty concerned because we've - unsustainable? they will be pretty concerned because we've seen i unsustainable? they will be prettyi concerned because we've seen the severe shortage in prison places having an impact in various ways recently. we saw ten days or so ago that the government announced emergency measures to delay hearings and mantra straights courts to free up and mantra straights courts to free up space in prisons and we've also seen the government announced early release of some prisoners and some prisoners will be released up to 70 days early and now courtesy of the leaked letter amongst chief constables we know that some police forces are delaying even arresting people in case that adds to the pressure on prisons. this has come from a letter circulated by the national police chief counsels that coordinates policy across forces on this is what it said. it said consideration is to be given to causing non—priority arrests and any planned operations where large numbers of arrests might take place in order to ease the pressure within the criminaljustice system so a pretty clear bit of language. chief constables were to consider not arresting people but they might consider putting prisoners overcapacity and that is serious and the government say public safety will be the first priority and they admit there is pressure on the jails following the impact of the pandemic and also of a previous strike by criminal barristers.— and also of a previous strike by criminal barristers. henry, thank ou. a powerful tornado has ripped through a town in the us state of iowa, killing a number of people and leaving at least a dozen injured. images from the town of greenfield show a path of destruction — with cars overturned, homes destroyed and debris scattered. police said they couldn't yet say how many people have died in the storm. terrible scenes. on the other side at the early onset. —— of the atlantic. hopefully nothing quite so dramatic here.— atlantic. hopefully nothing quite so dramatic here. good morning, both, torrential rain _ dramatic here. good morning, both, torrential rain and _ dramatic here. good morning, both, torrential rain and a _ dramatic here. good morning, both, torrential rain and a lot _ dramatic here. good morning, both, torrential rain and a lot of— dramatic here. good morning, both, torrential rain and a lot of us - dramatic here. good morning, both, torrential rain and a lot of us are i torrential rain and a lot of us are seeing _ torrential rain and a lot of us are seeing it— torrential rain and a lot of us are seeing it here, but some yet to see it. seeing it here, but some yet to see it good _ seeing it here, but some yet to see it. good morning everyone. you can see from _ it. good morning everyone. you can see from the — it. good morning everyone. you can see from the weather watchers picture — see from the weather watchers picture how wet it is, huge puddles on the _ picture how wet it is, huge puddles on the road — picture how wet it is, huge puddles on the road and a lot of them today and the _ on the road and a lot of them today and the risk— on the road and a lot of them today and the risk of localised flooding. this one — and the risk of localised flooding. this one was taken in nottinghamshire just a little bit earlier~ — nottinghamshire just a little bit earlier. but the heaviest rain is going _ earlier. but the heaviest rain is going to — earlier. but the heaviest rain is going to be across north wales and north—west england. the met office has a _ north—west england. the met office has a number weather warning and force _ has a number weather warning and force which— has a number weather warning and force which means to be prepared for impacts— force which means to be prepared for impacts due — force which means to be prepared for impacts due to the severe weather and is _ impacts due to the severe weather and is valid — impacts due to the severe weather and is valid from midday today until midday— and is valid from midday today until midday tomorrow and could have as much _ midday tomorrow and could have as much is _ midday tomorrow and could have as much is this, — midday tomorrow and could have as much is this, hundred and 50 millimetres or more on the welsh mountains — millimetres or more on the welsh mountains widely 30 to 40 millimetres. the met office also has lots of— millimetres. the met office also has lots of yellow warnings in force but they are _ lots of yellow warnings in force but they are the level below amber. as we go _ they are the level below amber. as we go through the morning and into the afternoon the rain continues across— the afternoon the rain continues across england and wales and it will be heavy— across england and wales and it will be heavy and persistent and then it will migrate through scotland and there _ will migrate through scotland and there will be showers in the west, showers _ there will be showers in the west, showers across northern ireland and gusty— showers across northern ireland and gusty winds on the west coast of scotland — gusty winds on the west coast of scotland on the coast of northern ireland _ scotland on the coast of northern ireland to— scotland on the coast of northern ireland. to the south, as the rain moves _ ireland. to the south, as the rain moves away— ireland. to the south, as the rain moves away we are looking at heavy and potentially thundery storms across _ and potentially thundery storms across the southern counties of england — across the southern counties of england but it will be drier than it is going _ england but it will be drier than it is going to — england but it will be drier than it is going to be this morning. as we head _ is going to be this morning. as we head through the rush hour this afternoon — head through the rush hour this afternoon you will see where we have the heavy— afternoon you will see where we have the heavy rain across eastern scotland. _ the heavy rain across eastern scotland, the central belt and also into southern scotland. rain just clipping — into southern scotland. rain just clipping the east of northern ireland — clipping the east of northern ireland and it will be showery with gusty— ireland and it will be showery with gusty winds and all of the rain across— gusty winds and all of the rain across north—west england and through— across north—west england and through north wales with thundery showers _ through north wales with thundery showers in the south. and the rain then— showers in the south. and the rain then moves— showers in the south. and the rain then moves northwards and it will be windy— then moves northwards and it will be windy but— then moves northwards and it will be windy but one thing is it is not going — windy but one thing is it is not going to — windy but one thing is it is not going to be cold. we're going to look now at a country in the grip of a war, but largely forgotten by the outside world. myanmar in south east asia. rebels are fighting a battle against the military regime, with press freedom in the country also being restricted. three years ago, a military coup occurred, with the elected government led by the nobel peace prize laureate, aung san suu kyi, being ousted. people took to the streets in protest, but were met with a crackdown. in october rebel groups formed a single nationwide insurgency, which has made big gains, conquering large swathes of territory. the united nations says that two and a half million people have fled their homes, with the civil war leaving thousands for dead. our correspondent quentin sommerville, and camera—journalist, darren conway, have spent a month with the rebels in karenni state, at theirjungle bases, and on the frontline. this a revolution is rising across myanmar. hidden from the world by its remoteness. few countries are more isolated, few conflicts more unseen. we spent a month with the insurgents on back roads and jungle tracks in karenni state where they are winning against the army. they've driven the military out of most of their territory. but main roads are mined and we're still in range of army warplanes. so we have to take the long way around. a steep opposition hilltop above one of the last four military bases remaining in the state. air sniper, can they see us from here? yeah, sniper can see. sniper... sniper men can see here. the insurgents come with a message, a chance to surrender for the soldiers in the base below. they start firing to me. and mortar bombing. we cannot start yet. we already prepare our loudspeaker. but we still, no problem, we'll start soon. this man defected to the resistance after 12 years with the army. he says he speaks the soldiers' language. for now, they don't appear to be listening. there are 80 men still holding out in the bass below. cease fire! cease fire, please. translation: i do not wish to fight against you because i think - of you as my brothers. i'm fighting against the system. we have surrounded you. this is your last chance. all of your lives will be spared. i will not let you die. few of these young fighters expect he'll be successful. so the men there, as you can hear, they still have plenty of weaponry, despite the fact that they've been stuck in that base for a month. for these men, they've sent their message. they've had their response. it doesn't look like the surrendering today. so they're withdrawing. sometime i think the world is forgot us. they concentrate on the ukraine about and also the israelis. and after that they forget us. it's a war from another age with close quarter combat and casualties run high. the karenni nationalities defence force has taken its fair share. their leader, maui, seen here, has led from the front and paid the price. more than 350 of our brother and sister already sacrificed their life. more than 200 sacrificed for their body parts. at the same time, as you see this morning, hundreds of people are willing to join with us and willing to fight against the burma army. so those are our friends. it's a slow and ferocious conflict. in shan state at this base a counter—offensive against the kndf. mortars start landing around us. none of these fighters have body armour or helmets. get in these trenches here. and neither do we. so we head for the only available cover. there's another one. so that's i think three shells have come in in the last five minutes. and you really get the sense of what this conflict is about, because that is a professional, professional military over there firing artillery, firing mortars. these men are irregulars, they are strong alliance, a ragtag of rebel groups. and they've had a lot of success, but they've taken on a professional army. and that army is edging closer. beyond these banana trees, the military are crawling through the undergrowth. so you said now it's not safe. so then we go back and later we can decide again and come. we can come back any time. all right, let's go. let's go fast. the kndf are used to sneak attacks, but this is unexpected. let's go, let's go. let's get out of range. go, go, go. so it looks like as we arrived here, a military squad was coming in and have been training their guns on this area. indistinct. the commander said we have to get out of here and head back to the second lane. hopefully out of range of the weapons. go, go, go, go. directly ahead of us, a fresh mortar strike. they're narrowing in on the vehicles. just look here. bleep. that's another one just slightly behind us. just keep driving, phil, as fast as you can. it seems like they're trained on the road. just checking to see if our other vehicles made it. behind us, more near—misses. bleep. very quickly, they have a drone, so it's dangerous. we have drones following us. you don't have enough ammo to mount the assaults that you need to to take these final bases. the military rulers in this country have everything. how are you going to defeat that advantage? they have the artillery, they have the airplanes, they have the mortars. we do have enough heart. we do have enough morale. we do have enough humanity. that's the way, how we're going to defeat them. even we don't have physical material and not enough. but this is enough. and now they have record volunteers for it all. their ranks have never been stronger. their victories never greater. # i am a warrior and this is my song. the ballot box failed them. their peaceful protests were met with force. so they're taking the fight to the military. myanmar�*s new revolutionaries are on the march. # if it don't bring you fear, i swear you'll fear these marching feet. quentin sommerville, bbc news, karenni state, myanmar. extraordinary. karenni state, myanmar. remarkable access. plenty extraordinary. remarkable access. plenty more coming up on the programme. time now to get the news, travel and weather where you are. a very good morning from bbc london, i'm alice salfield. neighbours of a woman who was mauled to death by her two xl bully dogs in east london have paid tribute to her saying she was kind and loving. the victim has been named locally as angeline mahal. she was attacked on monday at her home in hornchurch. the two registered dogs were seized after being contained in a room. more than 100 people on five housing estates in south london have been told to look for somewhere else to live. the private tenants had moved onto estates which had been earmarked for regeneration and potential demolition by lambeth council. the council says its homes were let on a short term basis and it will provide vital housing for homeless families. but tenants have accused them of failing to be transparent, with one family saying within months of agreeing to a renewal they were told the landlord wanted the property back. we've told them that this is our home, we want to make it our home, we are looking for a long—term house. yeah, i just felt fooled, because obviously ijust thought that they knew what's going on with the property since day one, they knew their intention and they've never been transparent. drivers are being warned to avoid albert bridge next week as it's closing for essential maintenance. the crossing which connects chelsea to battersea will be shut in both directions from tuesday until saturday. pedestrians and cyclists can still use it, but vehicles will have to follow a diversion. children at a school in north london have been crowned britain's funniest class. it's after a nationwide competition in the beano, which asked pupils to submit their bestjokes. year six at northside primary in finchley took the title with 42% of the vote and will now see their entry featured in the comic. if you want to hear the winning joke it's on our website! but now let's take a look at the tubes. we've got severe delays on thejubilee line and minor delays on the northern line. well after all the rain, let's see how the weather's looking today with kate. good morning. another unsettled day today. the rain not perhaps so persistent but we have some frequent, heavy, perhaps thundery showers moving through. the wind is a bit stronger today so they will race through fairly quickly. temperatures today getting up to just somewhere between 14 and 16 celsius so feeling a little chillier. overnight those daytime showers will fade, becoming dry, still quite cloudy at least for a time but we mightjust see that cloud break a little as we head through to dawn. the minimum temperature double figures, around 10 celsius. now, low pressurejust starts to shift northwards as we head through thursday. we may get a bit of cloud to start with but it should start to thin and break, it is a much drier day tomorrow. there is a small chance of a shower but largely dry and in the sunshine, temperatures still feeling quite cool, actually. still breezy tomorrow, the maximum just 17 celsius. as we head towards the end of the week, and into the bank holiday weekend, it is looking a little more settled and the temperature with those sunny spells getting back up to around 20 celsius. that's it but you can get all the latest on the bbc news app. now it's back to sally and jon. i'll see you at around 9.15. bye bye. hello, this is breakfast with sally nugent and jon kay. the conservative mp craig mackinlay is returning to parliament for the first time today, after losing his hands and feet to sepsis. when he was rushed to hospital last year, mr mackinlay was given just a 5% chance of survival, and put into an induced coma. now back home and using prosthetic limbs, he's been speaking to our political correspondent, helen catt. here she comes, olivia, they're going to come and say hello. what did you think? what do you think of them? you can — look — and close them and open them. for his daughter, craig mackinlay calls them his magic hands. he's only got these new prosthetics this week. this is the first time that olivia has seen them. stop, stop! it won't work! hey, i think you turned it off. oh, it's still working, right? let's get on the swing. i think children are just so remarkably adjustable. she adapted to it very easily and probably better than everybody else, frankly. but that's what they do. papa! and this is a family which has had a lot to adjust to since that day in september, when craig was taken into hospital after feeling a little unwell. within about half an hour, i went this very, very strange blue. top to bottom, ears, everything blue. it's when you're having a very severe sort of septic event. and they knew what it was and they pretty much immediately put me into an induced coma. and for the next 16 days i was in dreamland. my wife being told within a few hours is one of the earliest people hours, he's one of the illest people we see in this hospital and prepare for the worst. but surviving was just the start. i remember coming to and there was discussions happening about these arms and legs, because by then they had turned black. i've never seen anything like it in my life, but they say frostbite is a bit like that, but you get frostbite in a few fingers. i had frostbite, it was effectively up to elbow and just below my knee. how do you cope with that psychologically? i was surprisingly stoic about it, actually. i don't know why i was. again, might be the various cocktail of drugs i was on. but i wasn't upset about it. i had sort of acceptance that these these things are dead and they're going to come off some time. craig's hands and feet were amputated on the 1st of december. this year brought more surgery and learning to use his prosthetic legs. trying to run before i could walk. so i wasn't ever worried about the legs, was the hands. because we don't realise how much you do with your hands. that dexterity is just amazing, to use your phone, hold the hand of your child, touch your wife. do the garden. it's all these things. or cooking and i love cooking. and i'm hoping with these amazing things, i'll be able to get somewhere towards it. but it's never going to be quite the same, obviously. there we go. none of this would work without my wife. all of those things that people who are very severely disabled need doing for them, my wife has been doing and i wouldn't be where i am today without her. we knew the first few days i was very much touch and go. in hospital, koti was by his bedside every day, playing him audiobooks and his favorite music. i think it was about the fifth day when the first time i calypso, he sort of mimics. 0k. ijust knew he would probably somewhere down deep - listening and hearing me. so if i'm there and just assuring that things would be ok... i and, uh... yeah. it's just there was not any other option. i you hear people always bring in music or someone celebrity comes in to see children in a coma. it does work. you are listening. those ears do listen, even if in the depths of a coma. the couple are optimistic about the future, especially now craig has his new hands. you can do a little function, which then makes them do something entirely different. so that's how they're meant to work. and how is that? how are you telling it to do this? it's literally the muscle on the outside open. so you're doing a little muscle twitch and on the inside it's closed. so it's as simple as that. and it's also app—driven, including a really clever one, which i think i'll have to be using on wednesday, a handshake one. he returns to westminster then with new issues to campaign on and perhaps a slightly different outlook. i think it's made me think a bit differently about life. we all probably spend too much time in westminster away from family chasing this, that and the other. where you now, after this, realise the important things are family. having been very close to death, i'm now not likely to die. so life is now the important thing. going back to work today, i'm imagining there will be a lot of people waiting to shake his hand. quite a reception in the house of commons, i'm sure. it quite a reception in the house of commons, i'm sure.— quite a reception in the house of commons, i'm sure. it has been a busy morning _ commons, i'm sure. it has been a busy morning in — commons, i'm sure. it has been a busy morning in london. - the former chief executive of the post office, paula vennells, will begin giving evidence at the public inquiry into the horizon it scandal later today. it's the first time she'll speak publicly about it for nearly a decade. between 1999 and 2015 hundreds of sub—postmasters were wrongly prosecuted for stealing due to the faulty software. ben boulos is outside the inquiry in london. ben, we saw the level of interest as she arrived a short time ago and that interest is only going to increase in the hours and days ahead as she gives evidence, isn't it? absolutely right, good morning from outside the public inquiry where you can see just outside the public inquiry where you can seejust some outside the public inquiry where you can see just some of the people who have gathered, such as interest in paula vennells appearing to give evidence. some flashing images coming up. these are from a few minutes before eight o'clock, when her car pulled up, 50 yards down the road, she was surrounded by a scrum of photographers, camera crews, journalists all keen to ask questions and get photos of her, being such a central figure questions and get photos of her, being such a centralfigure in questions and get photos of her, being such a central figure in this scandal. she was very prominent in the itv drama that brought this post office itv scandal to wider public attention. unusually there were police president outside as she arrived, they are not always here but they are aware of how much interest you generate because of her role as a former chief executive of the organisation at the centre of what has been described as the biggest miscarriage ofjustice in british legal history. with me are two people who were victims of that scandal, janet skinner and lee castleton. morning. as you prepare to go in and see and hear paula vennells give evidence, how are you feeling about the proceedings that will happen today? i’m feeling about the proceedings that will happen today?— feeling about the proceedings that will happen today? i'm quite nervous for her to be — will happen today? i'm quite nervous for her to be honest. _ will happen today? i'm quite nervous for her to be honest. i— will happen today? i'm quite nervous for her to be honest. i think - will happen today? i'm quite nervous for her to be honest. i think she i for her to be honest. i think she has got — for her to be honest. i think she has got a — for her to be honest. i think she has got a big road ahead of her in the next — has got a big road ahead of her in the next three days. ijust hope that she — the next three days. ijust hope that she answers everything. i�*m that she answers everything. i'm really looking forward to it, i hope she has— really looking forward to it, i hope she has the — really looking forward to it, i hope she has the strength _ really looking forward to it, i hope she has the strength to _ really looking forward to it, i hope she has the strength to tell - really looking forward to it, i hope she has the strength to tell the i she has the strength to tell the truth, — she has the strength to tell the truth, tell— she has the strength to tell the truth, tell it _ she has the strength to tell the truth, tell it like _ she has the strength to tell the truth, tell it like it— she has the strength to tell the truth, tell it like it is— she has the strength to tell the truth, tell it like it is a - she has the strength to tell the truth, tell it like it is a let's i truth, tell it like it is a let's all listen _ truth, tell it like it is a let's all listen. there _ truth, tell it like it is a let's all listen. there is - truth, tell it like it is a let's all listen. there is going i truth, tell it like it is a let's all listen. there is going to| truth, tell it like it is a let's i all listen. there is going to be a lot of— all listen. there is going to be a lot of paperwork _ all listen. there is going to be a lot of paperwork that _ all listen. there is going to be a lot of paperwork that no - all listen. there is going to be a lot of paperwork that no one i all listen. there is going to be ai lot of paperwork that no one had seen _ lot of paperwork that no one had seen before _ lot of paperwork that no one had seen before and _ lot of paperwork that no one had seen before and i— lot of paperwork that no one had seen before and i am _ lot of paperwork that no one had seen before and i am looking i lot of paperwork that no one had i seen before and i am looking forward to the _ seen before and i am looking forward to the inquiry— seen before and i am looking forward to the inquiry team _ seen before and i am looking forward to the inquiry team being _ seen before and i am looking forward to the inquiry team being able - seen before and i am looking forward to the inquiry team being able to i to the inquiry team being able to ask questions _ to the inquiry team being able to ask questions that _ to the inquiry team being able to ask questions that nobody - to the inquiry team being able to ask questions that nobody has i to the inquiry team being able to i ask questions that nobody has ever been _ ask questions that nobody has ever been able — ask questions that nobody has ever been able to— ask questions that nobody has ever been able to ask _ ask questions that nobody has ever been able to ask her— ask questions that nobody has ever been able to ask her before. - ask questions that nobody has ever been able to ask her before. whall ask questions that nobody has ever been able to ask her before. what do ou want been able to ask her before. what do you want to — been able to ask her before. what do you want to hear, _ been able to ask her before. what do you want to hear, is _ been able to ask her before. what do you want to hear, is it _ been able to ask her before. what do you want to hear, is it an _ been able to ask her before. what do you want to hear, is it an apology, i you want to hear, is it an apology, is it at of what went wrong, what's. .. is it at of what went wrong, what's- - -— is it at of what went wrong, what's... ~ .,, , . ., is it at of what went wrong, what's... , . ., , what's. .. accountability. what she has not to what's. .. accountability. what she has got to do. _ what's. .. accountability. what she has got to do, she _ what's. .. accountability. what she has got to do, she has _ what's. .. accountability. what she has got to do, she has a _ what's. .. accountability. what she has got to do, she has a perfect i has got to do, she has a perfect opportunity now to defend herself as well. ,, . , opportunity now to defend herself as well. ,, ., , ., ., opportunity now to defend herself as well. ,, ., ., , ., ., well. she has got a huge platform. she's had a — well. she has got a huge platform. she's had a lot _ well. she has got a huge platform. she's had a lot of _ well. she has got a huge platform. she's had a lot of mud _ well. she has got a huge platform. she's had a lot of mud slung i well. she has got a huge platform. she's had a lot of mud slung at i well. she has got a huge platform. i she's had a lot of mud slung at her over the last couple of years of the inquiry, and i think she needs to defend herself. teii inquiry, and i think she needs to defend herself.— defend herself. tell it straight. tell it as it _ defend herself. tell it straight. tell it as it is. _ defend herself. tell it straight. tell it as it is. the _ defend herself. tell it straight. tell it as it is. the world i defend herself. tell it straight. tell it as it is. the world is i tell it as it is. the world is watching- _ tell it as it is. the world is watching. there _ tell it as it is. the world is watching. there are i tell it as it is. the world is watching. there are a i tell it as it is. the world is watching. there are a lot l tell it as it is. the world is | watching. there are a lot of tell it as it is. the world is - watching. there are a lot of people around _ watching. there are a lot of people around the — watching. there are a lot of people around the world have watched the drama. _ around the world have watched the drama. and — around the world have watched the drama, and seen this unfolding. and it's her_ drama, and seen this unfolding. and it's her chance to put it out there, what _ it's her chance to put it out there, what she — it's her chance to put it out there, what she saw and heard, and the document — what she saw and heard, and the document. if what she saw and heard, and the document-— what she saw and heard, and the document. ., ., ., document. if not, who gave her the instructions- _ document. if not, who gave her the instructions. she _ document. if not, who gave her the instructions. she hasn't _ document. if not, who gave her the instructions. she hasn't made i instructions. she hasn't made decisions on her own, this has been board level, government level. there are a lot of people involved in this and what has happened have come to the —— a lot of people have come to the —— a lot of people have come to the inquiry saying, i don't recall, i don't remember, they don't remember their own job description. people have put statements in that are 30 _ people have put statements in that are 30 pages, paula vennells has got 800 pages. that isn't someone who doesn't _ 800 pages. that isn't someone who doesn't want to put it out there and doesn't _ doesn't want to put it out there and doesn't want to put it out there and doesn't want to put it out there and doesn't want to answer questions. let's _ doesn't want to answer questions. let's see _ doesn't want to answer questions. let's see what she can recall and let's— let's see what she can recall and let's see — let's see what she can recall and let's see what she can make all of that _ let's see what she can make all of that it _ let's see what she can make all of that it will— let's see what she can make all of that. it will be interesting to see. given— that. it will be interesting to see. given how— that. it will be interesting to see. given how prominently she features in the itv drama, do you think there is a danger that she becomes a caricature of ellen and the fall guy for all of this, when others may have been involved or do you put the blame squarely at her door? you have been involved or do you put the blame squarely at her door?- blame squarely at her door? you can onl make blame squarely at her door? you can only make decisions _ blame squarely at her door? you can only make decisions based _ blame squarely at her door? you can only make decisions based on i only make decisions based on information you have got. she hasn't done this on — information you have got. she hasn't done this on her— information you have got. she hasn't done this on her own. _ information you have got. she hasn't done this on her own. a _ information you have got. she hasn't done this on her own. a lot - information you have got. she hasn't done this on her own. a lot of- done this on her own. a lot of --eole done this on her own. a lot of people have _ done this on her own. a lot of people have worked - done this on her own. a lot of people have worked through i done this on her own. a lot of. people have worked through the inquiry— people have worked through the inquiry when i don't recall. let's see who — inquiry when i don't recall. let's see who is — inquiry when i don't recall. let's see who is leading her information. he wasn't_ see who is leading her information. he wasn't the ceo when i was sent to prison in 2007. he wasn't the ceo when i was sent to prison in 2001— prison in 2007. both of your cases redated prison in 2007. both of your cases predated her— prison in 2007. both of your cases predated her as _ prison in 2007. both of your cases predated her as chief _ prison in 2007. both of your cases predated her as chief executive i predated her as chief executive however she allowed the post office to defend that case in the high court which ate up a lot of the settlement money that you would otherwise have got, how do you feel about that? it’s otherwise have got, how do you feel about that? �* , otherwise have got, how do you feel about that?— about that? it's the time, that's the problem- — about that? it's the time, that's the problem. all _ about that? it's the time, that's the problem. all of _ about that? it's the time, that's the problem. all of this - about that? it's the time, that's the problem. all of this takes i about that? it's the time, that's i the problem. all of this takes time. whatever— the problem. all of this takes time. whatever the legal fight in takes years— whatever the legal fight in takes years and years. and people have died waiting forjustice. that's the saddest— died waiting forjustice. that's the saddest part of this. can died waiting forjustice. that's the saddest part of this.— saddest part of this. can anything undo the harm _ saddest part of this. can anything undo the harm and _ saddest part of this. can anything undo the harm and suffering i saddest part of this. can anything undo the harm and suffering that| undo the harm and suffering that you, and the losses that you and others... ., . , you, and the losses that you and others. . ._ certainly others... not anything. certainly not an apology — others... not anything. certainly not an apology or— others... not anything. certainly not an apology or money. i others... not anything. certainlyl not an apology or money. money, --eole not an apology or money. money, people think — not an apology or money. money, people think that _ not an apology or money. money, people think that money - not an apology or money. money, people think that money is i not an apology or money. money, people think that money is going | not an apology or money. money, i people think that money is going to end it all for us but unfortunately, the monies and the apologies... it’s the monies and the apologies... it's the monies and the apologies... it's the accountability. we _ the monies and the apologies... it's the accountability. we have - the monies and the apologies... it's the accountability. we have to i the monies and the apologies... it's the accountability. we have to live | the accountability. we have to live with it for the — the accountability. we have to live with it for the rest _ the accountability. we have to live with it for the rest of _ the accountability. we have to live with it for the rest of our - the accountability. we have to live with it for the rest of our lives. i with it for the rest of our lives. if the people involved in those decisions which affected you, how much do we think we will hear about what went on behind closed door, what went on behind closed door, what went on with government ministers? taste what went on with government ministers?— what went on with government ministers? ~ ., ., , ., ministers? we are hoping that some documentation _ ministers? we are hoping that some documentation was _ ministers? we are hoping that some documentation was not _ ministers? we are hoping that some documentation was not destroyed i ministers? we are hoping that some! documentation was not destroyed so we will— documentation was not destroyed so we will have black and white documents which will leave questions which _ documents which will leave questions which will— documents which will leave questions which will be answered, that's all we can— which will be answered, that's all we can ask — which will be answered, that's all we can ask. do which will be answered, that's all we can ask-— which will be answered, that's all we can ask. ,, ~ we can ask. do you think there will be a strong — we can ask. do you think there will be a strong emotional— we can ask. do you think there will be a strong emotional reaction i we can ask. do you think there will be a strong emotional reaction in l be a strong emotional reaction in that inquiry, heckling from the public gallery? it that inquiry, heckling from the public gallery?— public gallery? it will not be allowed. it's _ public gallery? it will not be allowed. it's very _ public gallery? it will not be | allowed. it's very respectful. public gallery? it will not be i allowed. it's very respectful. you are going in there and you have to act as if you are in a court. so it has to be respectful. everything has been respectable _ has to be respectful. everything has been respectable up _ has to be respectful. everything has been respectable up until— has to be respectful. everything has been respectable up until now. i has to be respectful. everything has been respectable up until now. and| has to be respectful. everything has| been respectable up until now. and i expect— been respectable up until now. and i expect it _ been respectable up until now. and i expect it to— been respectable up until now. and i expect it to stay the same. people want _ expect it to stay the same. people want to— expect it to stay the same. people want to hear her, you know. we want to hear, want to hear her, you know. we want to hear. don't— want to hear her, you know. we want to hear, don't we? _ want to hear her, you know. we want to hear, don't we? i— want to hear her, you know. we want to hear, don't we? i don't— want to hear her, you know. we want to hear, don't we? i don't want i want to hear her, you know. we want to hear, don't we? i don't want to - to hear, don't we? i don't want to be ut in to hear, don't we? i don't want to be put in a _ to hear, don't we? i don't want to be put in a situation, _ to hear, don't we? i don't want to be put in a situation, or— to hear, don't we? i don't want to be put in a situation, or put - to hear, don't we? i don't want to be put in a situation, or put her. to hear, don't we? i don't want to be put in a situation, or put her in a situation — be put in a situation, or put her in a situation where she doesn't want to speak, — a situation where she doesn't want to speak, this is her opportunity, let's_ to speak, this is her opportunity, let's hear— to speak, this is her opportunity, let's hear it _ to speak, this is her opportunity, let's hear it— let's hear it. this is a big day ahead, let's hear it. this is a big day ahead. look _ let's hear it. this is a big day ahead, look forward - let's hear it. this is a big day ahead, look forward to - let's hear it. this is a big day . ahead, look forward to speaking let's hear it. this is a big day - ahead, look forward to speaking to you as things progress in hearing your thoughts later today. thank you for speaking to us this morning. we should say that the inquiry will be going on throughout the day, the first of three days of questioning for paula vennells. if you want to follow line byline detail there is a live page on the bbc news website, you can follow that on the website of the app. we will have a round—up of the app. we will have a round—up of what happens each day here on bbc breakfast. this morning we've found out that inflation has fallen to 2.3%, the lowest level in almost three years, but is still above the government's target of 2%. the chancellorjeremy hunt says prices are still "much higher" than they were a year ago but it is encouraging. we can speak now to labour's darren jones, who's shadow chief secretary to the treasury. . good morning, mrjones. 2.3%, heading in the right direction, then? u, ., heading in the right direction, then? , ., ., ., heading in the right direction, then? ., , , ., then? good morning. numbers are cominu then? good morning. numbers are coming down _ then? good morning. numbers are coming down and _ then? good morning. numbers are coming down and that _ then? good morning. numbers are coming down and that is _ then? good morning. numbers are coming down and that is great - then? good morning. numbers are coming down and that is great but| then? good morning. numbers are i coming down and that is great but 296 coming down and that is great but 2% is what should be normal. the fact is what should be normal. the fact is inflation spiked at 11% and the damage is already done because people have had to pay out that money. core inflation is still higher than it should be an overall the figures are higher than what we in the market were hoping for this morning. so now is not the time for any victory lap from the conservatives, more work needs to be done so the people at home can experience the stability of a growing economy and enjoy opportunities in. we growing economy and en'oy opportunities mi growing economy and en'oy opportunities in. we had the chancellor _ opportunities in. we had the chancellor on _ opportunities in. we had the chancellor on the _ opportunities in. we had the l chancellor on the programme opportunities in. we had the - chancellor on the programme an hour ago and there was no sign of a victory lap but he did say that the government is approaching their target and one of their key pledges, you have to admit that is something at least a. the you have to admit that is something at least a. ., ., , , ., at least a. the target of 296 is what we should expect _ at least a. the target of 296 is what we should expect as _ at least a. the target of 296 is what we should expect as normal. - we should expect as normal. the reason we have gone from a grossly incompetent government to a mildly incompetent government to a mildly incompetent government to a mildly incompetent government is welcome news, but there is still massive problems in the economy that need fixing that are not being dealt with by the government. one example, the reason inflation is coming down today primarily is because of the energy price cap but we are still reliant on international gas prices to produce our electricity, instead of building energy energy like a labour government were to do with gb energy if we win the election later this year. only by getting more stable home—grown sources of energy will be remove the risk of international prices as we have experience in the last 18 months. we know the chancellor unveiled a dossierjust last week adding up how much labour's spending commitments would cost if labour was in power. they claim that would leave a 38.5 billion black hole in government finances, what you say to that, how do you respond? if finances, what you say to that, how do you respond?_ do you respond? if you look at the detail of how _ do you respond? if you look at the detail of how they _ do you respond? if you look at the detail of how they did _ do you respond? if you look at the detail of how they did their- do you respond? if you look at the | detail of how they did their maths, it is all wrong, basically. ml of it is all wrong, basically. all of it? yeah. _ it is all wrong, basically. all of it? yeah, basically. _ it is all wrong, basically. all of it? yeah, basically. the - it is all wrong, basically. all of| it? yeah, basically. the costing it is all wrong, basically. all of. it? yeah, basically. the costing is done from — it? yeah, basically. the costing is done from political _ it? yeah, basically. the costing is done from political advisers - it? yeah, basically. the costing is done from political advisers from | done from political advisers from the conservatives who ask economic advisers in government to cost assumptions set by the conservative party. many of those policies were not reflective of labour party policy at all, and their numbers didn't add up. even one example which is one policy to give incentive payments to dentists to set up nhs dentists in areas where you cannot get one, the conservative party has adopted our policy but they included it in their dossier of uncosted labour party policies. presumably they are paying for it already they have adopted our policy. already they have adopted our oli . g , , , ., already they have adopted our oli . ., , , policy. just respond to this, in his interview on _ policy. just respond to this, in his interview on this _ policy. just respond to this, in his interview on this programme, - policy. just respond to this, in his interview on this programme, he | policy. just respond to this, in his - interview on this programme, he said that a labour government would put up that a labour government would put up taxes that would cost each household £2000. if you are anywhere near right? m0. household £2000. if you are anywhere near riuht? ., . �* household £2000. if you are anywhere near riuht? ., ., �* , , near right? no, and i'm pretty disappointed _ near right? no, and i'm pretty disappointed in _ near right? no, and i'm pretty disappointed in jeremy. - near right? no, and i'm pretty| disappointed in jeremy. jeremy near right? no, and i'm pretty- disappointed in jeremy. jeremy and i disappointed injeremy. jeremy and i used to chair select committee together, he is a reasonable guy, he's normally quite pragmatic but he seems to have gone slightly mad now that we are getting closer to the election. we have been very clear in the labour party that we want the tax burden to come down on working people so we have supported the last two cuts on national insurance and we have committed not to increase taxes on working people in the course of the next government if we win. i thinkjeremy should focus on turning the economy around instead of throwing around pretty desperate political point scoring shots which are not lending because the british people know from their own experience at home that after 1a years of chaos from the conservatives, we have all been paying the price and it's time for change. d0 paying the price and it's time for chance. ,, paying the price and it's time for chance. ., , change. do you feel that we might be a- roachin: change. do you feel that we might be approaching something _ change. do you feel that we might be approaching something of _ change. do you feel that we might be approaching something of a - change. do you feel that we might be approaching something of a corner. approaching something of a corner turn with inflation lower than in the us and the eurozone? i turn with inflation lower than in the us and the eurozone? i welcome the us and the eurozone? i welcome the conservatives _ the us and the eurozone? i welcome the conservatives going _ the us and the eurozone? i welcome the conservatives going from - the us and the eurozone? i welcome the conservatives going from being l the conservatives going from being grossly incompetent to mildly incompetent, that is good progress. my incompetent, that is good progress. my ambition for the country is much higher. and i think the ambition the british people expect from their politicians is much higher as well. we need to bring stability back to the economy, that is one of our first steps as an incoming labour government but we had then what to get the economy back on track and growing so that people can have a bit of spare money at the end of the month of the paying bills to enjoy their lives and have a sense of optimism about where the country is going again. we are still in a bleak doom spiral of despair after 1a years of conservatives and that is why things have to change. let’s why things have to change. let's stop talking _ why things have to change. let's stop talking about _ why things have to change. let's stop talking about the _ why things have to change. let's stop talking about the conservatives and the chancellor and talk about the imf. they say any new government whoever that might beat this time next year would have to raise substantial tax revenues or pathfinder spending savings worth an average of 1% of gdp or £22 billion to reduce the debt ratio in the next five years. how are you planning to fix that should you be in government?— fix that should you be in government? fix that should you be in covernment? , ., ._ government? the first thing to say about the imf _ government? the first thing to say about the imf report _ government? the first thing to say about the imf report is _ government? the first thing to say about the imf report is that - government? the first thing to say about the imf report is that it - about the imf report is that it highlights what we in the labour party had been cordoned up sometime, which is the state of disrepair in our public services and the net in the economy. we know if we win the election we are going to inherit a really sticky wicket and it will be hard to begin with. but what the imf showed in their report is that if you do take the measures necessary to get the economy back into growing again, that you start to create the space to be able to turn things around. whether it is our policy to reform the planning system, to help unlock investment to get people back into work, to provide more access to training and apprenticeship skills, put more teachers back into schools, help people get off the nhs waiting lists, all of these are policy initiatives which are done properly can bring the economy back up which the imf recognises in its report. thank you. we know on breakfast, that former leeds rhinos captain, kevin sinfield, really likes a challenge. from seven marathons in seven days, to an ultra—marathon every day, for seven days, in seven different cities, we've followed kev as he's raised millions of pounds for mnd charities, there is a theme to this, isn't there? in recognition of his friend and former team mate rob burrow who was diagnosed with the disease in 2019. so what else is there left to do? there's only one man who can tell us. good morning. good morning. you're auoin to good morning. good morning. you're going to reveal— good morning. good morning. you're going to reveal another— good morning. good morning. you're going to reveal another challenge - good morning. good morning. you're going to reveal another challenge in i going to reveal another challenge in a moment, you will keep us waiting for a second. you have had a busy time, you have been hobnobbing with royalty? i time, you have been hobnobbing with ro al ? ., , time, you have been hobnobbing with roal? ., , , royalty? i have been sat alongside rob with royalty. _ royalty? i have been sat alongside rob with royalty. it's _ royalty? i have been sat alongside rob with royalty. it's been - royalty? i have been sat alongside rob with royalty. it's been a - royalty? i have been sat alongside rob with royalty. it's been a busy| rob with royalty. it's been a busy start to the year especially with rob's marathon ten days ago which was incredible again, and both being awarded our cba and it was a special day. —— cbe. awarded our cba and it was a special day- -- cbe— day. -- cbe. you and rob started with something _ day. -- cbe. you and rob started with something which _ day. -- cbe. you and rob started with something which almost - day. -- cbe. you and rob started with something which almost felt| day. -- cbe. you and rob started. with something which almost felt a bit on the hoof, i have decided to do this and go for a run, and here we arejust a do this and go for a run, and here we are just a few years later, just a small amount of time later, and the future king is interested. not just interested but hugely foraging. do you ever pinch yourself and think, how did we do this? yeah, because we _ think, how did we do this? yeah, because we winged _ think, how did we do this? yeah, because we winged it. _ think, how did we do this? yeah, because we winged it. the - think, how did we do this? yeah, because we winged it. the first i think, how did we do this? yeah, l because we winged it. the first one we threw together in a couple of weeks. to have people interested and involved and want to support and the awareness that has been generated, and the money, it has made such a difference. and then to see the fight in rob, the inspiration he has given so many people across the uk, it has been incredible to be a part of. and in its simplest form, i always bring it back to, i'm just trying to help my mate. and our team are very passionate about that. i are very passionate about that. i think that's true. years ago when rob said i would fight this with every breath, we all heard that. but he is a living embodiment of fighting this with every breath. and it's every day, it's another new level of surprise and admiration and respect for what he's doing. absolutely. i love spending time with him. he makes me every moment i am with him, i am laughing. the inspiration and fight and courage he has shown everybody across the uk and worldwide, what bravery really looks like. i think we all thank him for that, looks like. i think we all thank him forthat, ourfriendship, looks like. i think we all thank him for that, ourfriendship, and the way he has fought this, the way lindsay and the kids and his mum and dad have gone about it, they are a stand at firmly for us all. this dad have gone about it, they are a stand at firmly for us all.— stand at firmly for us all. this was the moment _ stand at firmly for us all. this was the moment last _ stand at firmly for us all. this was the moment last year _ stand at firmly for us all. this was the moment last year when - stand at firmly for us all. this was the moment last year when you i stand at firmly for us all. this was i the moment last year when you took him over the finishing line in the matter with you.— matter with you. yeah, really secial matter with you. yeah, really special moment. _ matter with you. yeah, really special moment. i— matter with you. yeah, really special moment. i share - matter with you. yeah, really special moment. i share the l matter with you. yeah, really - special moment. i share the story about this moment but what happened about this moment but what happened about seven k earlier than this, it in the books, we were in second place. in terms of pushing the wheelchairs, and getting it through. it had been a tough battle up until that point in the marathon, and i leaned over to rob, and i tested his competitiveness, still, tested his fight, and we put ourfoot competitiveness, still, tested his fight, and we put our foot down from that moment and got it finished and make sure he won his marathon. so at that oint, make sure he won his marathon. so at that point. you — make sure he won his marathon. so at that point, you actually _ make sure he won his marathon. so at that point, you actually wanted to win? ~ , ., , ., , that point, you actually wanted to win? ~ , ., ,._ that point, you actually wanted to win? . , ., , ., , g: win? well, yeah! the story was, 34 or35 win? well, yeah! the story was, 34 or 35 k into — win? well, yeah! the story was, 34 or 35 k into a _ win? well, yeah! the story was, 34 or 35 k into a marathon, _ win? well, yeah! the story was, 34 or 35 k into a marathon, tired, - win? well, yeah! the story was, 34 or 35 k into a marathon, tired, it i or 35 k into a marathon, tired, it was really warm and hot, and rob was finding it difficult. so we knew we had to get him back quickly. but we had to get him back quickly. but we had had to do a lot of stops that we had had to do a lot of stops that we had not planned. there was another wheelchair competitor in front of us, and i said, are you going to lose on your marathon day? if you want to lose, we can keep stopping, or we can go as hard as we can and not to stop and get this done. and we will make sure he would win. find we will make sure he would win. and the rest is history. you have updated the book for the paperback edition which talks about that, and it talks about meeting prince william and getting the honour, what did he say to you when you met the prince of wales? he did he say to you when you met the prince of wales?— did he say to you when you met the prince of wales? he was fully aware of everything _ prince of wales? he was fully aware of everything we _ prince of wales? he was fully aware of everything we had _ prince of wales? he was fully aware of everything we had done. - prince of wales? he was fully aware of everything we had done. he - of everything we had done. he thanked us both for the work we had done with the mmd community, rob cheekily asked him if he would open the centre in leeds and it is built, and he said yes. to be awarded the cbe at the ground where we had so many fond memories, it was special for us both. d0 many fond memories, it was special for us both-— for us both. do you think prince william has _ for us both. do you think prince william has a _ for us both. do you think prince william has a pair— for us both. do you think prince william has a pair of— for us both. do you think prince william has a pair of trainers? i for us both. do you think prince i william has a pair of trainers? i'm sure he's got _ william has a pair of trainers? i'm sure he's got a — william has a pair of trainers? i“n sure he's got a pair of trainers. william has a pair of trainers? i'm| sure he's got a pair of trainers. do ou sure he's got a pair of trainers. do you know if he likes running? i'm| you know if he likes running? i'm sure he does. _ you know if he likes running? i'm sure he does. do _ you know if he likes running? i'm sure he does. do you _ you know if he likes running? i'm sure he does. do you know - you know if he likes running? i'm| sure he does. do you know where you know if he likes running? i'm i sure he does. do you know where i you know if he likes running? i'm - sure he does. do you know where i am auoin ? sure he does. do you know where i am uroin? he sure he does. do you know where i am going? he is— sure he does. do you know where i am going? he is more _ sure he does. do you know where i am going? he is more than _ sure he does. do you know where i am going? he is more than welcome - sure he does. do you know where i am going? he is more than welcome to i going? he is more than welcome to 'oin us at going? he is more than welcome to join us at any _ going? he is more than welcome to join us at any point. _ going? he is more than welcome to join us at any point. and _ going? he is more than welcome to join us at any point. and that - going? he is more than welcome to join us at any point. and that will. join us at any point. and that will be when? _ join us at any point. and that will be when? we — join us at any point. and that will be when? we go _ join us at any point. and that will be when? we go again, - join us at any point. and that will be when? we go again, our- join us at any point. and that will| be when? we go again, our usual slot, december— be when? we go again, our usual slot, december1-7. _ be when? we go again, our usual slot, december 1-7. a _ be when? we go again, our usual slot, december 1-7. a bit - be when? we go again, our usual slot, december 1-7. a bit of - be when? we go again, our usual slot, december 1-7. a bit of a i slot, december 1—7. a bit of a christmas theme going on this time. you have your santa hat on. hand christmas theme going on this time. you have your santa hat on.- you have your santa hat on. and we are moving — you have your santa hat on. and we are moving around _ you have your santa hat on. and we are moving around the _ you have your santa hat on. and we are moving around the country - you have your santa hat on. and we l are moving around the country again. nipping over to northern ireland for a day, but we are going to run 50 kilometres a day at least in a variety of different cities across the uk. banging that drum for mnd. the centre theme, where is that coming from? you have run in december before, it will be different this time with the centre theme? abs. different this time with the centre theme? �* , , , theme? a little bit, but still with theme? a little bit, but still with the similar— theme? a little bit, but still with the similar things. _ theme? a little bit, but still with the similar things. the _ theme? a little bit, but still with the similar things. the santa - theme? a little bit, but still with | the similar things. the santa claus theme, we will hopefully start and finish with a santa dash, one in liverpool and one in saddleworth back home. that will be the plan, thatis back home. that will be the plan, that is why there is a santa theme, so we don't have a name for it. so what are we going to do about that, then? �* , , , ., , what are we going to do about that, then? i, , ., what are we going to do about that, then? , ., then? any suggestions would be more than welcome- — then? any suggestions would be more than welcome. breakfast _ then? any suggestions would be more than welcome. breakfast viewers, - then? any suggestions would be more than welcome. breakfast viewers, you j than welcome. breakfast viewers, you know what you — than welcome. breakfast viewers, you know what you need _ than welcome. breakfast viewers, you know what you need to _ than welcome. breakfast viewers, you know what you need to do, _ than welcome. breakfast viewers, you know what you need to do, a - know what you need to do, a suggestion for the name, number seven in their somewhere? seven ultramarathons _ seven in their somewhere? seven ultramarathons in _ seven in their somewhere? seven ultramarathons in seven - seven in their somewhere? seven ultramarathons in seven days, i seven in their somewhere? seven i ultramarathons in seven days, each hour is run in seven k slot and then the rest of it is recovery but that gives us a chance to meet the mnd community. that gives people the chance to come and see us, raise awareness, spend some time with us and then run. awareness, spend some time with us and then run-— and then run. people have been caettin in and then run. people have been getting in touch _ and then run. people have been getting in touch all _ and then run. people have been getting in touch all morning - and then run. people have been - getting in touch all morning because they all want to ask you questions. gail has been in touch, she wants to know— gail has been in touch, she wants to know what_ gail has been in touch, she wants to know what your greatest achievement has been _ know what your greatest achievement has been on and off the pitch. off the has been on and off the pitch. the pitch is has been on and off the pitch. off the pitch is easy, the stuff we have donein the pitch is easy, the stuff we have done in the last four years, the work, combined work from the team and i say the team, that includes you guys and everybody connected with the mnd group now. the awareness that has been generated, the funds that have been raised, the difference we have all made and that is people who have donated, stood on the street you have supported, beep their horn, whatever they have done, had played a part in this community. how do you prevent getting blisters, says anne marie? you how do you prevent getting blisters, says anne marie?— how do you prevent getting blisters, says anne marie? you don't! you 'ust deal with says anne marie? you don't! you 'ust dealwith it- — says anne marie? you don't! you 'ust deal with it. you fl says anne marie? you don't! you 'ust deal with it. you just i says anne marie? you don't! you 'ust deal with it. you just get i says anne marie? you don't! you 'ust deal with it. you just get on i says anne marie? you don't! you 'ust deal with it. you just get on with i deal with it. you just get on with it. get on with it. deal with it. you 'ust get on with it. get on with it.— it. get on with it. what did you think the answer _ it. get on with it. what did you think the answer was? - it. get on with it. what did you think the answer was? i - it. get on with it. what did you think the answer was? i knew i it. get on with it. what did you | think the answer was? i knew it it. get on with it. what did you - think the answer was? i knew it was that. you think the answer was? i knew it was that- you do — think the answer was? i knew it was that. you do your— think the answer was? i knew it was that. you do your best, _ think the answer was? i knew it was that. you do your best, tape - think the answer was? i knew it was that. you do your best, tape your. that. you do your best, tape your feet u - , that. you do your best, tape your feet up. i have — that. you do your best, tape your feet up, i have done _ that. you do your best, tape your feet up, i have done a _ that. you do your best, tape your feet up, i have done a variety - that. you do your best, tape your feet up, i have done a variety of. feet up, i have done a variety of different things but when you are running and then wet in the mud in december, then you get blisters and cuts. �* ., , december, then you get blisters and cuts. ~ ., .,, cuts. adrian says, does kevin ever 'ust sit cuts. adrian says, does kevin ever just sit down _ cuts. adrian says, does kevin ever just sit down and _ cuts. adrian says, does kevin ever just sit down and chill? _ cuts. adrian says, does kevin ever just sit down and chill? i _ cuts. adrian says, does kevin ever just sit down and chill? i do, - cuts. adrian says, does kevin ever just sit down and chill? i do, and i | just sit down and chill? i do, and i aet asked just sit down and chill? i do, and i get asked this _ just sit down and chill? i do, and i get asked this a _ just sit down and chill? i do, and i get asked this a lot. _ just sit down and chill? i do, and i get asked this a lot. but - just sit down and chill? i do, and i get asked this a lot. but when - just sit down and chill? i do, and i j get asked this a lot. but when you are passionate about something, it's really easy to go again. we always have a choice in life, whatever we want to do and our team wants to help. and there will come a time when people are completely sick of us which is fine but we still wants to help so why should we stop? paula sa s, can to help so why should we stop? paula says. can you — to help so why should we stop? paula says, can you stand _ to help so why should we stop? paula says, can you stand for _ to help so why should we stop? paula says, can you stand for prime - says, can you stand for prime minister?— says, can you stand for prime minister? ., �* , _ minister? no! i'm too busy running! and the whole _ minister? no! i'm too busy running! and the whole idea _ minister? no! i'm too busy running! and the whole idea for _ minister? no! i'm too busy running! and the whole idea for this - minister? no! i'm too busy running! and the whole idea for this comes l and the whole idea for this comes from a christmas day tradition, tell us about that. it’s from a christmas day tradition, tell us about that.— us about that. it's going back from when i played- _ us about that. it's going back from when i played. we _ us about that. it's going back from when i played. we used _ us about that. it's going back from when i played. we used to - us about that. it's going back from when i played. we used to train i when i played. we used to train every christmas day, still train every christmas day, still train every christmas day, not crazy amounts, but it has or has been good for me to come out of that competitiveness, to try and give you a mental edge if you like. i run a christmas day and i could neverfind a santa running top. so we have had one made, we have got one designed, and we will be wearing it. we one made, we have got one designed, and we will be wearing it.— and we will be wearing it. we look forward to seeing _ and we will be wearing it. we look forward to seeing it. _ and we will be wearing it. we look forward to seeing it. it _ and we will be wearing it. we look forward to seeing it. it really - and we will be wearing it. we look forward to seeing it. it really is i and we will be wearing it. we look forward to seeing it. it really is a i forward to seeing it. it really is a santa santa _ forward to seeing it. it really is a santa santa dash. _ forward to seeing it. it really is a santa santa dash. if— forward to seeing it. it really is a santa santa dash. if you - forward to seeing it. it really is a santa santa dash. if you have i forward to seeing it. it really is a| santa santa dash. if you have got forward to seeing it. it really is a i santa santa dash. if you have got a name for the _ santa santa dash. if you have got a name for the challenge... - santa santa dash. if you have got a| name for the challenge... christmas is infield? seven _ name for the challenge... christmas is infield? seven centres _ name for the challenge... christmas is infield? seven centres running? i is infield? seven centres running? we will— is infield? seven centres running? we will pass them on. live from london. this is bbc news. spain, ireland and norway say they will recognise an independent palestinian state, leading israel to recall its ambassadors. uk inflation falls to its lowest level in almost three years at 2.3% — and just above the bank of england's 2% target. these are live pictures from tehran where tens of thousands of people are gathering for the funeral of president ebrahim raisi who died in a helicopter crash on sunday. former post office chief executive, paula vennells, will begin giving evidence shortly at the public inquiry. the head of singapore airlines says he's "very sorry" after a passenger dies following severe turbulence on a flight from london to singapore. welcome to this hour. in the last hour spain, ireland and norway have announced they will formally recognise an independent palestinian state. the irish pm simon harris said that the children of palestine and israel deserved peace and that it was "the right thing to do". spain's pedro sanchez said there was "an obligation to act" while norway's prime minister said a two—state solution was in israel's best interests. reacting to the news — israel's foreign minister, israel katz, said the move endangers his country's security. he is recalling the ambassadors to the three countries.