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Transcripts For BBCNEWS Newsnight 20240704



wednesday and beyond, high pressure building across in scandinavia, low—pressure out to this programme continues on bbc one. later this year, you will choose your next government. tonight, ahead of what could be the last budget before that election, the people of doncaster east tell us what their life is like, and what they would like to hear from politicians in the coming months. election, the people of doncaster east tell us what their life is like, and what they would like to hear from politicians in the coming months. good evening and welcome to lincolnshire. the chancellor delivers his budget in two days�* time, and that could be the last big economic announcement before the next general election. showers elsewhere but many again will have a predominately dry day on wednesday, it's the successor to the don valley seat, a former coal mining area where voters elected only labour mps from 1922 to 2019. that's when the conservatives wanted for the very first time. we've invited an audience and hopefully brought together people from all walks of life. some of you are also joining us because you've specifically raised issues about the cost of living and the challenges faced by small businesses in the region. and we have some politicians too, of course — we'll introduce them after we've heard from you. is for one particular type, people who have severe alopecia and severe, as categorized for this particular treatment, is in excess of 50% of hair loss, so, quite a long way on your hair lossjourney, hair loss, so, quite a long way on your hair loss journey, before you would be able to up until recently i was working as a doctor's receptionist, i'm currently at work —— looking for work. i've never known it to be so difficult. both my sons are looking for work, there's just nothing there, the only thing. only things, everything is minimum wage, obviously i'm 60 this year, i have a lot of skills, done loads of differentjobs and i am really struggling to find work and i have never known to be, i've got a partner who works as well, trying to make ends meet is just nigh partner who works as well, trying to make ends meet isjust nigh on impossible. i5 make ends meet is “ust nigh on impossiblah make ends meet is 'ust nigh on impossiblah impossible. is it? what kind of thins do impossible. is it? what kind of things do you _ impossible. is it? what kind of things do you do _ impossible. is it? what kind of things do you do karen, - impossible. is it? what kind of things do you do karen, what i impossible. is it? what kind of - things do you do karen, what choices do you have to make? like things do you do karen, what choices do you have to make?— do you have to make? like most --eole do you have to make? like most peeple these _ do you have to make? like most people these days _ do you have to make? like most people these days i _ do you have to make? like most people these days i do _ do you have to make? like most people these days i do shopping | do you have to make? like most l people these days i do shopping in aldi and liddle, trying to be as cheap as possible. we don't go on holidays, i can't remember the last time we went out for a meal, everything is to the bear bones, everything is to the bear bones, everything is to the bear bones, everything is going up all the time —— bare bones, everything is going up all the time -- bare bones.— everything is going up all the time -- bare bones, what is responsible do ou -- bare bones, what is responsible do you think. _ -- bare bones, what is responsible do you think, who _ -- bare bones, what is responsible do you think, who is _ -- bare bones, what is responsible do you think, who is responsible? i do you think, who is responsible? the government 100%, the economic policies they have made, the tax cuts for the rich. we said about levelling up, that nobody feels like it is levelled up round here that i know of, and people who are in similar situations to myself, they have worked all their lives and should be a time now, where i can put money away for saving for retirement. it isjust, doesn't seems like an impossible dream at the moment. d0 seems like an impossible dream at the moment-— seems like an impossible dream at the moment. ~ ., ., the moment. do you think about covid and the effect — the moment. do you think about covid and the effect that _ the moment. do you think about covid and the effect that had _ the moment. do you think about covid and the effect that had and _ the moment. do you think about covid and the effect that had and the - the moment. do you think about covid and the effect that had and the war . and the effect that had and the war in ukraine and how that a effecteded energy bills and the help people gave people to help with bills? i do, but i think the ukraine was a political decision, the amount of money that has gone to the ukraine, given the situation of our own country, ijust don't given the situation of our own country, i just don't feel like the right choices have been made, and i completely understand the covid, but the millions, probably billions of like, pounds thaw have been wasted on ppe, and cronyism and ijust think... applause thank you karen. good evening. applause thank ou karen. good evenina. thank you karen. good evening. good evenin: i thank you karen. good evening. good evening i am — thank you karen. good evening. good evening i am mark, _ thank you karen. good evening. good evening i am mark, vicar— thank you karen. good evening. (limo. evening i am mark, vicar of five parishes in the aisle of axholme and chairman of a project, the food share project we are have been running it for two years and it's a food bank essentially.— running it for two years and it's a food bank essentially. what does demand like _ food bank essentially. what does demand like the _ food bank essentially. what does demand like the two _ food bank essentially. what does demand like the two years - food bank essentially. what does demand like the two years ago i food bank essentially. what does i demand like the two years ago and now? ~ , , ., ., , now? when we first started it was robabl now? when we first started it was probably about — now? when we first started it was probably about i _ now? when we first started it was probably about i think _ now? when we first started it was probably about i think on - now? when we first started it was probably about i think on the - now? when we first started it was probably about i think on the first | probably about i think on the first day we had about eight or nine, ten people came in, and now, we are, we are feedings about between 200 and 250 people a week. um? are feedings about between 200 and 250 people a week.— are feedings about between 200 and 250 people a week. why do you think that is? simply _ 250 people a week. why do you think that is? simply because _ 250 people a week. why do you think that is? simply because the - 250 people a week. why do you think| that is? simply because the economic situation, that is? simply because the economic situation. and — that is? simply because the economic situation, and it _ that is? simply because the economic situation, and it is _ that is? simply because the economic situation, and it is not _ that is? simply because the economic situation, and it is notjust _ that is? simply because the economic situation, and it is notjust people - situation, and it is notjust people on low incomes or benefit, it is people who are in full—time employment. people who are in full-time employment-— people who are in full-time employment.- yes, | people who are in full-time _ employment.- yes, absolutely, employment. really? yes, absolutely, in full-time employment _ employment. really? yes, absolutely, in full-time employment and _ employment. really? yes, absolutely, in full-time employment and they - in full—time employment and they cannot make ends meet. we have a food bank as i said, it opens on a friday morning, we have to restrictions on how often people can come, because with some food banks they have, they can only get a certain amount of food, sort of three referrals in a six month period, we open every week, people can come every week, and we also deliver as well, around this local area. ~ ., ., deliver as well, around this local area, ~ ., ., . ., deliver as well, around this local area. ~ ., ., ,, deliver as well, around this local area. ~ ., ., ~ ., area. what do can you think, are the reasons behind _ area. what do can you think, are the reasons behind that _ area. what do can you think, are the reasons behind that big _ area. what do can you think, are the reasons behind that big rise - area. what do can you think, are the reasons behind that big rise in - reasons behind that big rise in demand for your project? i reasons behind that big rise in demand for your project? demand for your pro'ect? i think it is, it's demand for your pro'ect? i think it is. its _ demand for your pro'ect? i think it is, it's rises in _ demand for your pro'ect? i think it is, it's rises in the — demand for your project? i think it is, it's rises in the cost _ demand for your project? i think it is, it's rises in the cost of- is, it's rises in the cost of living, in rents and in fuel, not just domestic fuel but the just transport costs as well. all sorts of things have contributed to that. thank you very much mark. thank you. hello. ,., ., . ., ., , hello. good evening victoria, my name is michael. _ hello. good evening victoria, my name is michael. i— hello. good evening victoria, my name is michael. i am _ hello. good evening victoria, my name is michael. i am a - hello. good evening victoria, my name is michael. i am a born - hello. good evening victoria, my| name is michael. i am a born and bread _ name is michael. i am a born and bread doncaster, being a child of the 60s— bread doncaster, being a child of the 60s i— bread doncaster, being a child of the 605 i can remember the industry we had _ the 605 i can remember the industry we had in _ the 605 i can remember the industry we had in doncaster and scunthorpe up we had in doncaster and scunthorpe up the _ we had in doncaster and scunthorpe up the road, the 5teelwork5, to name a few, _ up the road, the 5teelwork5, to name a few, burton taylor, ici fibre5, internationalal harve5ter5 company 2 so internationalal harve5ter5 company 2 50 big _ internationalal harve5ter5 company 2 so big manufacturers. internationalal harvesters company 2 so big manufacturers.— so big manufacturers. labour intensive _ so big manufacturers. labour intensive manufacturing and. so big manufacturers. labour- intensive manufacturing and then the pits and _ intensive manufacturing and then the pits and those industries, have not been _ pits and those industries, have not been replaced. so the youth and the generation— been replaced. so the youth and the generation that are not the techie, not the _ generation that are not the techie, not the 0 — generation that are not the techie, not the 0 level a—level 5tudent5 not the 0 level a—level students have _ not the 0 level a—level students have nothing to do so they are staying — have nothing to do so they are staying in education for longer than they need _ staying in education for longer than they need tot staying in education for longer than they need to t and we are fudging they need to t and we are fudging the figures, the government is fudging — the figures, the government is fudging figures but throwing loads of money at training when there is no end _ of money at training when there is no end product of a job. i see first handm _ applause . there is plenty of potential, green energy, carbon capture. taste green energy, carbon capture. we need to learn to make thing, the materials— need to learn to make thing, the materials we buy are from germany and france — materials we buy are from germany and france-— and france. could you make them here? british _ and france. could you make them here? british steel, _ and france. could you make them here? british steel, we _ and france. could you make them here? british steel, we weld - and france. could you make them here? british steel, we weld rails| here? british steel, we weld rails touether. here? british steel, we weld rails together- why — here? british steel, we weld rails together. why continue _ here? british steel, we weld rails together. why continue we - here? british steel, we weld rails together. why continue we make | here? british steel, we weld rails - together. why continue we make them here in— together. why continue we make them here in scunthorpe, british steel, -et here in scunthorpe, british steel, get our— here in scunthorpe, british steel, get our finger out and put a business _ get our finger out and put a business together that employs thousands ofjobs. gk, business together that employs thousands ofjobs.— business together that employs thousands of jobs. business together that employs thousands of “obs. . ,, , ., . thousands of “obs. 0k, thank you. we have len thousands ofjobs. 0k, thank you. we have plenty more _ thousands ofjobs. 0k, thank you. we have plenty more opportunity - thousands ofjobs. 0k, thank you. we have plenty more opportunity for, - thousands ofjobs. 0k, thank you. we have plenty more opportunity for, we| have plenty more opportunity for, we want to give your fellow audience member a round of applause, thank you asme brendan clark, we have the chancellor in two days' time, if he was listening, what are you hoping he might do, for some of the people who have spoken this evening? i think this is the impact we have had global factors think this is the impact we have had globalfactors an think this is the impact we have had global factors an inflation think this is the impact we have had globalfactors an inflation is think this is the impact we have had global factors an inflation is the biggest enemy, everything you have heard shows a good example o that. last year it is 10% and now it is down to 4%, if we can't cut inflation. jeremy hunt said the biggest tax cut you can given anybody is getting inflation down. 0nce anybody is getting inflation down. once you get inflation down the bank of england can start looking at interest rates, that affects people's mortgages, the employment we have had to be very careful with public sector pay increases because we don't want to trigger more inflation at the same time, but... what to you want to hear on wednesday?— what to you want to hear on wednesda ? . . , , wednesday? personal tax is very important- _ wednesday? personal tax is very important. taxing _ wednesday? personal tax is very important. taxing the _ wednesday? personal tax is very important. taxing the rich, - wednesday? personal tax is very important. taxing the rich, we i wednesday? personal tax is very i important. taxing the rich, we have been doing that, we have increased taxes a bit. we have had the national insurance cut, i would like to see us going further, help it can self employed out. working parent, there is maybe more we can do with that, looking at the thresholds on top of the childcare.— top of the childcare. alistair, would a potential— top of the childcare. alistair, would a potential labour- top of the childcare. alistair, - would a potential labour government doll anything different, would people see anything different? we people see anything different? - would do things differently. people see anything different? we| would do things differently. what? so our green _ would do things differently. what? so our green investment _ would do things differently. what? so our green investment plan - would do things differently. what? so our green investment plan is i would do things differently. what? so our green investment plan is all about investing in those industries, that we just heard about that are crucial. that we 'ust heard about that are crucial. .. that we 'ust heard about that are crucial. ., , .. that we 'ust heard about that are crucial. ., , ., . ,.. crucial. even though you have scaled that riaht crucial. even though you have scaled that right back? _ crucial. even though you have scaled that right back? but _ crucial. even though you have scaled that right back? but we _ crucial. even though you have scaled that right back? but we have - crucial. even though you have scaled that right back? but we have made i crucial. even though you have scaled| that right back? but we have made it a ractical that right back? but we have made it a practical plan _ that right back? but we have made it a practical plan to — that right back? but we have made it a practical plan to invest _ that right back? but we have made it a practical plan to invest in _ a practical plan to invest in industries with a jobs bonus at the heart, so we know when we are investing in energy future we are getting the jobs for young people and creating a path into the door of those businesses for young people and it breaks my heart to hear of karen talk us about big being a skilled person not able to get a job, and i don't think we have done nearly enough to help people, there is vacancies out there and we have to make sure they are available to people where they are and help people where they are and help people get into those jobs, this is a skilled country with loads of vacancies, we have to put it right. david white. reform uk says it would, if it were in charge it would lower taxes dramatically, do you want to see that on wednesday? the we would increase the income tax threshold, — we would increase the income tax threshold, to— we would increase the income tax threshold, to £20,000, _ we would increase the income tax threshold, to £20,000, that - we would increase the income tax threshold, to £20,000, that is i we would increase the income tax i threshold, to £20,000, that is worth £1500 _ threshold, to £20,000, that is worth £1500 per-anurn _ threshold, to £20,000, that is worth £1500 per—anum. how— threshold, to £20,000, that is worth £1500 per-anum-_ threshold, to £20,000, that is worth £1500 per-anum. how much would that cost? we have — £1500 per-anum. how much would that cost? we have got _ £1500 per-anum. how much would that cost? we have got that _ £1500 per-anum. how much would that cost? we have got that here, _ £1500 per-anum. how much would that cost? we have got that here, i - £1500 per-anum. how much would that cost? we have got that here, i am - cost? we have got that here, i am the only one _ cost? we have got that here, i am the only one with _ cost? we have got that here, i am the only one with a _ cost? we have got that here, i am the only one with a fully _ cost? we have got that here, i am the only one with a fully costed i the only one with a fully costed manifesto _ the only one with a fully costed manifesto-— the only one with a fully costed manifesto. ., . ., _,, manifesto. how much would it cost? we have identified _ manifesto. how much would it cost? we have identified 1501e _ manifesto. how much would it cost? we have identified 1501e cost - we have identified 150le cost savings _ we have identified 150le cost savings. please _ we have identified 150le cost savings. please take - we have identified 150le cost savings. please take a - we have identified 150le cost savings. please take a look. i we have identified 150le cost. savings. please take a look. 150 billion, it savings. please take a look. billion, it didn't say that, so carry on, you think there is inefficiency savings to be made. in government? that was admitted by the chancellor— government? that was admitted by the chancellor in the _ chancellor in the telegraph yesterday _ chancellor in the telegraph yesterday-— chancellor in the telegraph esterda. ., ' :: , ., .. yesterday. not 150 billion worth. just back to _ yesterday. not 150 billion worth. just back to what _ yesterday. not 150 billion worth. just back to what the _ yesterday. not 150 billion worth. just back to what the auditor - yesterday. not 150 billion worth. | just back to what the auditor says specifically. — just back to what the auditor says specifically, this is _ just back to what the auditor says specifically, this is important. i. specifically, this is important. i know_ specifically, this is important. i know the — specifically, this is important. i know the area _ specifically, this is important. i know the area very, _ specifically, this is important. i know the area very, very - specifically, this is important. i know the area very, very well. i specifically, this is important. ii know the area very, very well. it specifically, this is important. i- know the area very, very well. it is tragic— know the area very, very well. it is tragic some — know the area very, very well. it is tragic some of— know the area very, very well. it is tragic some of the _ know the area very, very well. it is tragic some of the things - know the area very, very well. it is tragic some of the things i - know the area very, very well. it is tragic some of the things i have i tragic some of the things i have heard, — tragic some of the things i have heard, the _ tragic some of the things i have heard, the manufacturing, - tragic some of the things i have heard, the manufacturing, i- tragic some of the things i havei heard, the manufacturing, i now tragic some of the things i have - heard, the manufacturing, i now live in barnsley. — heard, the manufacturing, i now live in barnsley. i— heard, the manufacturing, i now live in barnsley, i talk— heard, the manufacturing, i now live in barnsley, i talk to _ heard, the manufacturing, i now live in barnsley, i talk to ex—miners - heard, the manufacturing, i now live in barnsley, i talk to ex—miners on l in barnsley, i talk to ex—miners on a daily— in barnsley, i talk to ex—miners on a daily basis— in barnsley, i talk to ex—miners on a daily basis some _ in barnsley, i talk to ex—miners on a daily basis some the _ in barnsley, i talk to ex—miners on a daily basis some the things- a daily basis some the things brendan— a daily basis some the things brendan mentioned - a daily basis some the things brendan mentioned there, i a daily basis some the things. brendan mentioned there, hang a daily basis some the things- brendan mentioned there, hang on this has— brendan mentioned there, hang on this has happened _ brendan mentioned there, hang on this has happened recently, - brendan mentioned there, hang on this has happened recently, in - brendan mentioned there, hang on this has happened recently, in fact| this has happened recently, in fact 14 years _ this has happened recently, in fact 14 years and the _ this has happened recently, in fact 14 years and the labour— this has happened recently, in fact. 14 years and the labour government before _ 14 years and the labour government before that, — 14 years and the labour government before that, who _ 14 years and the labour government before that, who actually— 14 years and the labour government before that, who actually closed - before that, who actually closed more _ before that, who actually closed more pits— before that, who actually closed more pits than— before that, who actually closed more pits than the _ before that, who actually closed more pits than the conservative| more pits than the conservative government, _ more pits than the conservative government, 50— more pits than the conservative government, so this _ more pits than the conservative government, so this has - more pits than the conservative i government, so this has happened more pits than the conservative - government, so this has happened for 20, 25_ government, so this has happened for 20, 25 years _ government, so this has happened for 20,25 years and the _ government, so this has happened for 20, 25 years and the manufacturing, l 20, 25 years and the manufacturing, the tractor. — 20, 25 years and the manufacturing, the tractor. i— 20, 25 years and the manufacturing, the tractor, i remember— 20, 25 years and the manufacturing, the tractor, i remember driving - 20, 25 years and the manufacturing, the tractor, i remember driving past| the tractor, i remember driving past the tractor, i remember driving past the tractor— the tractor, i remember driving past the tractor factory, _ the tractor, i remember driving past the tractor factory, british _ the tractor, i remember driving past the tractor factory, british steel - the tractor, i remember driving past the tractor factory, british steel i i the tractor factory, british steel i my father— the tractor factory, british steel i my father ran _ the tractor factory, british steel i my father ran a _ the tractor factory, british steel i my father ran a business - the tractor factory, british steel i i my father ran a business alongside british— my father ran a business alongside british steet — my father ran a business alongside british steel.— my father ran a business alongside british steel. what would you do to help people — british steel. what would you do to help people here? _ british steel. what would you do to help people here? it _ british steel. what would you do to help people here? it a _ british steel. what would you do to help people here? it a huge - british steel. what would you do to help people here? it a huge tax, i british steel. what would you do to | help people here? it a huge tax, we have to stimulate _ help people here? it a huge tax, we have to stimulate the _ help people here? it a huge tax, we have to stimulate the economy, - help people here? it a huge tax, we have to stimulate the economy, we| have to stimulate the economy, we have to stimulate the economy, we have to _ have to stimulate the economy, we have to cut — have to stimulate the economy, we have to cut personal _ have to stimulate the economy, we have to cut personal taxation, - have to stimulate the economy, we have to cut personal taxation, we l have to cut personal taxation, we have _ have to cut personal taxation, we have to _ have to cut personal taxation, we have to help _ have to cut personal taxation, we have to help businesses- have to cut personal taxation, we have to help businesses large - have to cut personal taxation, we have to help businesses large an| have to help businesses large an small~ _ have to help businesses large an small~ we — have to help businesses large an small. we will— have to help businesses large an small. we will talk _ have to help businesses large an small. we will talk about - have to help businesses large an. small. we will talk about levelling up small. we will talk about levelling up late _ small. we will talk about levelling up late her. — small. we will talk about levelling up late her. it— small. we will talk about levelling up late her, it has _ small. we will talk about levelling up late her, it has been _ small. we will talk about levelling up late her, it has been a - small. we will talk about levellingl up late her, it has been a disaster, what _ up late her, it has been a disaster, what has _ up late her, it has been a disaster, what has it— up late her, it has been a disaster, what has it done _ up late her, it has been a disaster, what has it done for— up late her, it has been a disaster, what has it done for the _ up late her, it has been a disaster, what has it done for the area - up late her, it has been a disaster, what has it done for the area little i what has it done for the area we will ask what has it done for the area will ask people later. let me what has it done for the area“ will ask people later. let me bring in christine jardine what would you like to see i in christine jardine what would you like to see .. ~' in christine jardine what would you like to see ., ~ .. in christine jardine what would you like to see ., ~ ., , like to see i would like to see him sa in i like to see i would like to see him saying i can't— like to see i would like to see him saying i can't give _ like to see i would like to see him saying i can't give you _ like to see i would like to see him saying i can't give you the - like to see i would like to see him saying i can't give you the budget| saying i can't give you the budget because rishi has gone to the palace to ask for a general election. we want change. we have heard about the problem, the cronyism, we have had seven years of cronyism and spending on pe, that you know we are hearing about fraud that has to be recovered, when, you know, it is just, it is too much for people, apprenticeships, we need something done about apprenticeship, we have lots of young people with terrific skills but they are not given alternative career paths, we need investment in fixing small businesses, sorting out the problem with business rate, and frankly, the only way i think we will get it is not anything jeremy hunt will say, unless it is we are having a general election. people want change, they want a different way and it is time to do it. bic my name is catherine, to do it. ok. my name is catherine, i am a retired teacher. as a country i am a retired teacher. as a country i think we are living, we are addicted to living beyond our means and if we were a family like that we would be pulling our bell belts in and concentrating on seven basic thing, food security, energy, housing, transport, and employment, health and education. and i think thatis health and education. and i think that is what the chancellor should be doing, he should be putting money into that, he should be fixing the systems that are broken at the moment. ~ ., systems that are broken at the moment. ~ . ., , .. ~' systems that are broken at the moment. ~ . ., i. ,, , systems that are broken at the moment. ~ . ., ,, , , moment. what do you think is broken? transort moment. what do you think is broken? transport certainly _ moment. what do you think is broken? transport certainly is _ moment. what do you think is broken? transport certainly is broken _ moment. what do you think is broken? transport certainly is broken at - moment. what do you think is broken? transport certainly is broken at the - transport certainly is broken at the moment, and get things back up to speed and also, to ensure affordability of some of the things for ordinary working families that can't afford them at the moment. let us bounce round. i _ can't afford them at the moment. let us bounce round. i am _ can't afford them at the moment. let us bounce round. i am ian _ can't afford them at the moment. let us bounce round. i am ian from - us bounce round. i am ian from gainsborough _ us bounce round. i am ian from gainsborough i _ us bounce round. i am ian from gainsborough i could _ us bounce round. i am ian from gainsborough i could who - us bounce round. i am ian from gainsborough i could who like i us bounce round. i am ian from| gainsborough i could who like to us bounce round. i am ian from - gainsborough i could who like to ask the conservative mp to do with the standing _ the conservative mp to do with the standing charges of gas and electric, _ standing charges of gas and electric, it is ridiculous. that is what you _ electric, it is ridiculous. that is what you pay. _ electric, it is ridiculous. that is what you pay. it _ electric, it is ridiculous. that is what you pay, it is _ electric, it is ridiculous. that is what you pay, it is like - electric, it is ridiculous. that is what you pay, it is like your. electric, it is ridiculous. that is| what you pay, it is like your line rental in a way, doesn't matter how much you use you have to pay that? exactly. in london it is probably 30 pence _ exactly. in london it is probably 30 pence a _ exactly. in london it is probably 30 pence a day— exactly. in london it is probably 30 pence a day cheaper than what it is herer _ pence a day cheaper than what it is here and — pence a day cheaper than what it is here and i— pence a day cheaper than what it is here, and i can't understand you know _ here, and i can't understand you know, surely, it should be across the country — know, surely, it should be across the country we should be paying the samer _ the country we should be paying the same why— the country we should be paying the same, why are they paying less than us, i same, why are they paying less than us i know— same, why are they paying less than us, i know that i will say the infrastructure, i used to work in the power— infrastructure, i used to work in the power station industry, it seems ridiculous— the power station industry, it seems ridiculous people who are struggling for money— ridiculous people who are struggling for money and they have to pay the standing _ for money and they have to pay the standing charge before they start paying _ standing charge before they start paying gas and electric. pass that microphone _ paying gas and electric. pass that microphone over. _ lam mark i am mark and i own a vehicle logistics — i am mark and i own a vehicle logistics company— i am mark and i own a vehicle logistics company and - i am mark and i own a vehicle logistics company and i - i am mark and i own a vehicle logistics company and i live i i am mark and i own a vehiclej logistics company and i live in doncaster~ _ logistics company and i live in doncaster. i've _ logistics company and i live in doncaster. i've lived - logistics company and i live in doncaster. i've lived in- logistics company and i live in doncaster. i've lived in my. logistics company and i live in. doncaster. i've lived in my house for 12 _ doncaster. i've lived in my house for 12 years — doncaster. i've lived in my house for 12 years in _ doncaster. i've lived in my house for 12 years in the _ doncaster. i've lived in my house for 12 years in the private - doncaster. i've lived in my house for 12 years in the private rentali for 12 years in the private rental sector— for 12 years in the private rental sector with _ for 12 years in the private rental sector with the _ for 12 years in the private rental sector with the cost _ for 12 years in the private rental sector with the cost of - for 12 years in the private rental sector with the cost of living - for 12 years in the private rentall sector with the cost of living and the cost — sector with the cost of living and the cost of — sector with the cost of living and the cost of gas _ sector with the cost of living and the cost of gas, electric- sector with the cost of living and the cost of gas, electric and - sector with the cost of living and the cost of gas, electric and all. the cost of gas, electric and all the cost of gas, electric and all the bills, — the cost of gas, electric and all the bills, i_ the cost of gas, electric and all the bills, i cannot _ the cost of gas, electric and all the bills, i cannot even - the cost of gas, electric and all the bills, i cannot even get - the cost of gas, electric and all the bills, i cannot even get to. the cost of gas, electric and all- the bills, i cannot even get to save the bills, i cannot even get to save the money— the bills, i cannot even get to save the money for— the bills, i cannot even get to save the money for a _ the bills, i cannot even get to save the money for a deposit _ the bills, i cannot even get to save the money for a deposit to - the bills, i cannot even get to save the money for a deposit to buy - the bills, i cannot even get to save the money for a deposit to buy my| the money for a deposit to buy my property — the money for a deposit to buy my property to— the money for a deposit to buy my property to have _ the money for a deposit to buy my property. to have the _ the money for a deposit to buy my property. to have the mortgage i the money for a deposit to buy my| property. to have the mortgage on the property— property. to have the mortgage on the property i— property. to have the mortgage on the property i have _ property. to have the mortgage on the property i have would - property. to have the mortgage on the property i have would be - property. to have the mortgage on i the property i have would be cheaper than the _ the property i have would be cheaper than the rent — the property i have would be cheaper than the rent i — the property i have would be cheaper than the rent i am _ the property i have would be cheaper than the rent i am paying _ the property i have would be cheaper than the rent i am paying now. - the property i have would be cheaper than the rent i am paying now. i- than the rent i am paying now. i have _ than the rent i am paying now. i have no— than the rent i am paying now. i have no rent arrears _ than the rent i am paying now. i have no rent arrears in 12 - than the rent i am paying now. i have no rent arrears in 12 years. i can quite — have no rent arrears in 12 years. i can quite clearly— have no rent arrears in 12 years. i can quite clearly afford _ have no rent arrears in 12 years. i can quite clearly afford my - have no rent arrears in 12 years. i can quite clearly afford my house| can quite clearly afford my house that i_ can quite clearly afford my house that i live — can quite clearly afford my house that i live in _ can quite clearly afford my house that i live in and _ can quite clearly afford my house that i live in and it— can quite clearly afford my house that i live in and it would - can quite clearly afford my house that i live in and it would be - that i live in and it would be cheaper _ that i live in and it would be cheaper and _ that i live in and it would be cheaper and beneficial- that i live in and it would be cheaper and beneficial for i that i live in and it would be i cheaper and beneficial for me that i live in and it would be - cheaper and beneficial for me to buy that house _ cheaper and beneficial for me to buy that house but — cheaper and beneficial for me to buy that house but i _ cheaper and beneficial for me to buy that house but i cannot— cheaper and beneficial for me to buy that house but i cannot afford - cheaper and beneficial for me to buy that house but i cannot afford to - that house but i cannot afford to rat that house but i cannot afford to get the — that house but i cannot afford to get the deposit _ that house but i cannot afford to get the deposit together. - that house but i cannot afford to get the deposit together. iiiitt�*ho i that house but i cannot afford to get the deposit together. who or what is responsible _ get the deposit together. who or what is responsible for— get the deposit together. who or what is responsible for the - get the deposit together. who or what is responsible for the fact i get the deposit together. who or l what is responsible for the fact you can't afford to get a mortgage? i think it's the cost of living. does| think it's the cost of living. does that mean _ think it's the cost of living. does that mean covid, _ think it's the cost of living. does that mean covid, the _ think it's the cost of living. does that mean covid, the ukraine i think it's the cost of living.“ that mean covid, the ukraine war, but policies? it’s that mean covid, the ukraine war, but policies?— but policies? it's a mixture. it's been a hail _ but policies? it's a mixture. it's been a hail storm _ but policies? it's a mixture. it's been a hail storm all— but policies? it's a mixture. it's been a hail storm all at - but policies? it's a mixture. it's been a hail storm all at once, i but policies? it's a mixture. it's i been a hail storm all at once, with the gas _ been a hail storm all at once, with the gas and — been a hail storm all at once, with the gas and electricity, _ been a hail storm all at once, with the gas and electricity, allegedly. the gas and electricity, allegedly caused _ the gas and electricity, allegedly caused by— the gas and electricity, allegedly caused by ukraine, _ the gas and electricity, allegedly caused by ukraine, covid, whichl caused by ukraine, covid, which caused — caused by ukraine, covid, which caused people _ caused by ukraine, covid, which caused people to _ caused by ukraine, covid, which caused people to lose _ caused by ukraine, covid, which caused people to lose their - caused by ukraine, covid, which caused people to lose theirjobsj caused by ukraine, covid, which. caused people to lose theirjobs and the interest— caused people to lose theirjobs and the interest rates— caused people to lose theirjobs and the interest rates go— caused people to lose theirjobs and the interest rates go up. _ caused people to lose theirjobs and the interest rates go up. it's - caused people to lose theirjobs and the interest rates go up. it's a - the interest rates go up. it's a snowball— the interest rates go up. it's a snowball effect— the interest rates go up. it's a snowball effect of— the interest rates go up. it's a snowball effect of everything i the interest rates go up. it's a i snowball effect of everything at once _ snowball effect of everything at once he — snowball effect of everything at once. y .. snowball effect of everything at once. ,. . snowball effect of everything at once. . ., . ., once. do you want to respond? nation transort once. do you want to respond? nation transport is — once. do you want to respond? nation transport is important _ once. do you want to respond? nation transport is important and _ once. do you want to respond? nation transport is important and one - once. do you want to respond? nation transport is important and one of- transport is important and one of the great things about the change to the great things about the change to the plans with hs2 is that money can be redistributed. irate the plans with h52 is that money can be redistributed.— be redistributed. we had original cabinet last _ be redistributed. we had original cabinet last week _ be redistributed. we had original cabinet last week and _ be redistributed. we had original cabinet last week and there - be redistributed. we had original| cabinet last week and there were plans— cabinet last week and there were plans and — cabinet last week and there were plans and out for that in my own constituency, a new train line is opening — constituency, a new train line is opening the with buses, we have the two pad _ opening the with buses, we have the two pad bus— opening the with buses, we have the two pad bus fares and lots of other things _ two pad bus fares and lots of other things |s— two pad bus fares and lots of other thints_ , ., , two pad bus fares and lots of other thins. . . , ., two pad bus fares and lots of other thints, , . , ., ., things. is it actually going to ha--en? things. is it actually going to happen? it's _ things. is it actually going to happen? it's already - things. is it actually going to i happen? it's already happening things. is it actually going to - happen? it's already happening to an extent. happen? it's already happening to an extent- there — happen? it's already happening to an extent. there is _ happen? it's already happening to an extent. there is more _ happen? it's already happening to an extent. there is more money - happen? it's already happening to an extent. there is more money for - extent. there is more money for areas _ extent. there is more money for areas like — extent. there is more money for areas like ours step standing charges _ areas like ours step standing charges, there is clearly an issue with that — charges, there is clearly an issue with that and we want to keep people's— with that and we want to keep people's bills down and we've tried to help _ people's bills down and we've tried to help government support but global— to help government support but global factors have gored some issues — global factors have gored some issues but that is why we are looking — issues but that is why we are looking at a more pragmatic approach to net— looking at a more pragmatic approach to not zero _ looking at a more pragmatic approach to not zero i— looking at a more pragmatic approach to net zero. i know people have been concerned _ to net zero. i know people have been concerned with that. the gentleman with housing, i know how important it is to _ with housing, i know how important it is to many— with housing, i know how important it is to many to own their own home, i it is to many to own their own home, i was _ it is to many to own their own home, i was put _ it is to many to own their own home, i was put up — it is to many to own their own home, i was put up with it being important to me _ i was put up with it being important to me and — i was put up with it being important to me and it— i was put up with it being important to me and it made me a conservative. it's to me and it made me a conservative. it's a _ to me and it made me a conservative. it's a great _ to me and it made me a conservative. it's a great dream of margaret thatcher~ _ it's a great dream of margaret thatcher. lots of people bought their— thatcher. lots of people bought their council taxes in my area. you have never — their council taxes in my area. you have never met _ their council taxes in my area. you have never met your _ their council taxes in my area. mt, have never met your target year since 2010 step i have never met your target year since 2010 step— have never met your target year since 2010 step i think some of the ”lannin since 2010 step i think some of the planning laws _ since 2010 step i think some of the planning laws need _ since 2010 step i think some of the planning laws need changing - since 2010 step i think some of the planning laws need changing to - since 2010 step i think some of the planning laws need changing to tip| since 2010 step i think some of the | planning laws need changing to tip i think some of the mortgage rules, there _ think some of the mortgage rules, there are people who can clearly afford _ there are people who can clearly afford a — there are people who can clearly afford a mortgage with the amount of rent they— afford a mortgage with the amount of rent they are paying but they are being _ rent they are paying but they are being taken out of this like mortgage prisoners who are prevented from having cheap mortgages. bn the from having cheap mortgages. on the transort from having cheap mortgages. on the transport issuer _ from having cheap mortgages. on the transport issue, h52 _ from having cheap mortgages. on the transport issue, h52 was _ from having cheap mortgages. on the transport issue, h52 was promised i transport issue, hs2 was promised for a long time, had cross—party agreement, clearly there were big challenges in the delivery but i just feel completely lost faith in our ability to get big transport schemes like that under this government done and we need a much more pragmatic approach, and it comes back tojobs, because one thing that holds us back in transport is having people to work in what is a really good industry, with greatjobs in transport. we need to make sure that young people especially have access, which is one reason... if especially have access, which is one reason... ,. especially have access, which is one reason... i. , _. reason... if you become the next government. _ reason... if you become the next government, you're _ reason... if you become the next government, you're not - reason... if you become the nextl government, you're not promising reason... if you become the next - government, you're not promising an extra for transport. ida. government, you're not promising an extra for transport.— extra for transport. no, but we have a [an to extra for transport. no, but we have a plan to make _ extra for transport. no, but we have a plan to make sure _ extra for transport. no, but we have a plan to make sure the _ a plan to make sure the apprenticeship scheme actually works to build that path for young people into those good jobs. when you put on a train at the moment, if its to late, quite often it's because they are lacking staff. making the industry work better, helping people get to work, it's a virtuous circle if we can get apprenticeships sorted out. i want to say to the gentleman, who describes the problem well, the cost of living crisis is exacerbating his housing situation, which is why we have got to make sure that people are able to do better. it's my, help make sure our public services are there for people, to help them get into good jobs and be supported, which will mean, as we build more houses, people can get access to them. we are going to talk about public services next. there's a lot to get through. 0pinion polls show that, alongside the economy, the state of the nhs is one of the most important issues to voters. so is it to some of the people here in yorkshire and the humber? what is people's experience of the nhs and other services? we have some people who work in the nhs. welcome, hello. its, work in the nhs. welcome, hello. a clinical pharmacist and i work in lincolnshire. _ clinical pharmacist and i work in lincolnshire. obviously, - clinical pharmacist and i work in lincolnshire. obviously, as- clinical pharmacist and i work in lincolnshire. obviously, as a i lincolnshire. obviously, as a pharmacist _ lincolnshire. obviously, as a pharmacist i_ lincolnshire. obviously, as a pharmacist. i would - lincolnshire. obviously, as a pharmacist. i would want - lincolnshire. obviously, as a pharmacist. i would want to| lincolnshire. obviously, as a - pharmacist. i would want to look at the nhs _ pharmacist. i would want to look at the nhs funding— pharmacist. i would want to look at the nhs funding and _ pharmacist. i would want to look at the nhs funding and make - pharmacist. i would want to look at the nhs funding and make sure - pharmacist. i would want to look atl the nhs funding and make sure that on wednesday — the nhs funding and make sure that on wednesday that _ the nhs funding and make sure that on wednesday that is _ the nhs funding and make sure that on wednesday that is fairly - on wednesday that is fairly represented _ on wednesday that is fairly represented and _ on wednesday that is fairly represented and i'd - on wednesday that is fairly . represented and i'd encourage on wednesday that is fairly - represented and i'd encourage the chancellor— represented and i'd encourage the chancellor to — represented and i'd encourage the chancellor to really— represented and i'd encourage the chancellor to really look— represented and i'd encourage the chancellor to really look at - represented and i'd encourage the chancellor to really look at publici chancellor to really look at public services, — chancellor to really look at public services, especially _ chancellor to really look at public services, especially the - chancellor to really look at public services, especially the nhs, - chancellor to really look at public| services, especially the nhs, and make _ services, especially the nhs, and make sure — services, especially the nhs, and make sure funding _ services, especially the nhs, and make sure funding is— services, especially the nhs, and make sure funding is therefore i services, especially the nhs, and i make sure funding is therefore that. since _ make sure funding is therefore that. since 2010, — make sure funding is therefore that. since 2010, the _ make sure funding is therefore that. since 2010, the nhs— make sure funding is therefore that. since 2010, the nhs has— make sure funding is therefore that. since 2010, the nhs has received i make sure funding is therefore that. since 2010, the nhs has received ai since 2010, the nhs has received a real terms increase in spending every year. real terms increase in spending every year-— real terms increase in spending eve ear. , . . �*, every year. absolutely, and that's one into every year. absolutely, and that's gone into upskilling _ every year. absolutely, and that's gone into upskilling the _ every year. absolutely, and that's gone into upskilling the current i gone into upskilling the current workforce _ gone into upskilling the current workforce, like _ gone into upskilling the current workforce, like myself. - gone into upskilling the current workforce, like myself. i- gone into upskilling the current workforce, like myself. iwas i gone into upskilling the current workforce, like myself. iwas a| workforce, like myself. iwas a community— workforce, like myself. iwas a community pharmacist- workforce, like myself. iwas a community pharmacist and - workforce, like myself. iwas a community pharmacist and i. workforce, like myself. i was a - community pharmacist and i decided to be a clinical— community pharmacist and i decided to be a clinical pharmacist, - community pharmacist and i decided to be a clinical pharmacist, so - to be a clinical pharmacist, so that's— to be a clinical pharmacist, so that's fantastic. _ to be a clinical pharmacist, so that's fantastic. there - to be a clinical pharmacist, so that's fantastic. there is - to be a clinical pharmacist, so that's fantastic. there is thatl that's fantastic. there is that opportunity— that's fantastic. there is that opportunity across— that's fantastic. there is that opportunity across the - that's fantastic. there is that opportunity across the board | that's fantastic. there is that. opportunity across the board for that's fantastic. there is that - opportunity across the board for all other— opportunity across the board for all other health — opportunity across the board for all other health care _ opportunity across the board for all other health care professionals - opportunity across the board for all other health care professionals at i other health care professionals at welford _ other health care professionals at welford up— other health care professionals at welford up but— other health care professionals at welford up but for— other health care professionals at welford up but for myself- other health care professionals at welford up but for myself as - other health care professionals at| welford up but for myself as well, personally — welford up but for myself as well, personally as _ welford up but for myself as well, personally as well, _ welford up but for myself as well, personally as well, last _ welford up but for myself as well, personally as well, last year, - personally as well, last year, unfortunately, _ personally as well, last year, unfortunately, i— personally as well, last year, unfortunately, i lost - personally as well, last year, unfortunately, i lost my- personally as well, last year, - unfortunately, i lost my husband after _ unfortunately, i lost my husband after a _ unfortunately, i lost my husband after a two — unfortunately, i lost my husband after a two and _ unfortunately, i lost my husband after a two and a _ unfortunately, i lost my husband after a two and a half _ unfortunately, i lost my husband after a two and a half month - unfortunately, i lost my husband i after a two and a half month battle with cancer— after a two and a half month battle with cancer and _ after a two and a half month battle with cancerand i— after a two and a half month battle with cancer and i can _ after a two and a half month battle with cancer and i can see _ after a two and a half month battle with cancer and i can see from - after a two and a half month battle with cancer and i can see from the| with cancer and i can see from the other— with cancer and i can see from the other side — with cancer and i can see from the other side the _ with cancer and i can see from the other side the pressure _ with cancer and i can see from the other side the pressure on- with cancer and i can see from the other side the pressure on the - with cancer and i can see from the l other side the pressure on the nhs, being _ other side the pressure on the nhs, being on— other side the pressure on the nhs, being on the — other side the pressure on the nhs, being on the ward _ other side the pressure on the nhs, being on the ward weekly, - other side the pressure on the nhs, being on the ward weekly, in- other side the pressure on the nhs, being on the ward weekly, in going i being on the ward weekly, in going in being on the ward weekly, in going ihand— being on the ward weekly, in going inand out, — being on the ward weekly, in going inand out, and— being on the ward weekly, in going in and out, and they— being on the ward weekly, in going in and out, and they are _ being on the ward weekly, in going in and out, and they are working i being on the ward weekly, in going | in and out, and they are working so hard _ in and out, and they are working so hard but _ in and out, and they are working so hard but there _ in and out, and they are working so hard but there is— in and out, and they are working so hard but there is such _ in and out, and they are working so hard but there is such pressure - in and out, and they are working so hard but there is such pressure oni hard but there is such pressure on demand, — hard but there is such pressure on demand, because _ hard but there is such pressure on demand, because there _ hard but there is such pressure on demand, because there is - hard but there is such pressure on demand, because there is not - hard but there is such pressure on - demand, because there is not enough workforce _ demand, because there is not enough workforce and — demand, because there is not enough workforce and we _ demand, because there is not enough workforce and we need _ demand, because there is not enough workforce and we need to _ demand, because there is not enough workforce and we need to get - demand, because there is not enough workforce and we need to get peoplel workforce and we need to get people trained _ workforce and we need to get people trained we — workforce and we need to get people trained. we need— workforce and we need to get people trained. we need to _ workforce and we need to get people trained. we need to retain— workforce and we need to get people trained. we need to retain the - workforce and we need to get people trained. we need to retain the staff. trained. we need to retain the staff we have _ trained. we need to retain the staff we have there — trained. we need to retain the staff we have there already. _ trained. we need to retain the staff we have there already. and - trained. we need to retain the staff we have there already. and i- trained. we need to retain the staff we have there already. and i couldi we have there already. and i could really— we have there already. and i could really see — we have there already. and i could really see how _ we have there already. and i could really see how hard _ we have there already. and i could really see how hard they— we have there already. and i could really see how hard they were - we have there already. and i could i really see how hard they were trying but it's _ really see how hard they were trying but it'si'ust — really see how hard they were trying but it's just difficult. _ really see how hard they were trying but it'sjust difficult. the _ really see how hard they were trying but it's just difficult. the funding - but it'sjust difficult. the funding would _ but it'sjust difficult. the funding would definitely— but it'sjust difficult. the funding would definitely help. _ but it'sjust difficult. the funding would definitely help. i- but it'sjust difficult. the funding would definitely help. i bin - but it'sjust difficult. the funding would definitely help. i am really sor to would definitely help. i am really sorry to hear— would definitely help. i am really sorry to hear about _ would definitely help. i am really sorry to hear about your - would definitely help. i am really| sorry to hear about your husband. thank you for sharing that with us. thank you for sharing that with us. thank you for telling us about your own experience as a pharmacist. hello, sir. i a own experience as a pharmacist. hello, sir-— hello, sir. i a gp. iwork in a rural practice. _ hello, sir. i a gp. iwork in a rural practice. in _ hello, sir. i a gp. iwork in a rural practice. in the - hello, sir. i a gp. iwork in a rural practice. in the last - hello, sir. i a gp. iwork in a rural practice. in the last 15. rural practice. in the last 15 years, _ rural practice. in the last 15 years, i_ rural practice. in the last 15 years, i have _ rural practice. in the last 15 years, i have now- rural practice. in the last 15 years, i have now seen- rural practice. in the last 15- years, i have now seen patients who constantly— years, i have now seen patients who constantly keep _ years, i have now seen patients who constantly keep coming _ years, i have now seen patients who constantly keep coming to _ years, i have now seen patients who constantly keep coming to us - years, i have now seen patients who. constantly keep coming to us because they are _ constantly keep coming to us because they are waiting — constantly keep coming to us because they are waiting for— constantly keep coming to us because they are waiting for a _ constantly keep coming to us because they are waiting for a long _ constantly keep coming to us because they are waiting for a long time - constantly keep coming to us because they are waiting for a long time to- they are waiting for a long time to id they are waiting for a long time to go to— they are waiting for a long time to go to hospital— they are waiting for a long time to go to hospital to— they are waiting for a long time to go to hospital to see _ they are waiting for a long time to go to hospital to see specialists. i go to hospital to see specialists. when _ go to hospital to see specialists. when they— go to hospital to see specialists. when they are _ go to hospital to see specialists. when they are waiting, - go to hospital to see specialists. when they are waiting, they - go to hospital to see specialists. when they are waiting, they will| go to hospital to see specialists. i when they are waiting, they will hit crisis _ when they are waiting, they will hit crisis point — when they are waiting, they will hit crisis point where _ when they are waiting, they will hit crisis point where they— when they are waiting, they will hit crisis point where they need - crisis point where they need emergency— crisis point where they need emergency help, _ crisis point where they need emergency help, either- crisis point where they needl emergency help, either from crisis point where they need - emergency help, either from us in primary— emergency help, either from us in primary care — emergency help, either from us in primary care or— emergency help, either from us in primary care or from _ emergency help, either from us in primary care or from a&e, - emergency help, either from us in primary care or from a&e, and - primary care or from a&e, and certainly— primary care or from a&e, and certainly that, _ primary care or from a&e, and certainly that, if— primary care or from a&e, and certainly that, if you _ primary care or from a&e, and certainly that, if you don't - primary care or from a&e, andl certainly that, if you don't have the right— certainly that, if you don't have the right funding _ certainly that, if you don't have the right funding support, - certainly that, if you don't have the right funding support, all. certainly that, if you don't have i the right funding support, all they ret the right funding support, all they get is _ the right funding support, all they get is a _ the right funding support, all they get is a temporary— the right funding support, all they get is a temporary sticking - the right funding support, all theyj get is a temporary sticking plaster and they— get is a temporary sticking plaster and they come _ get is a temporary sticking plaster and they come out _ get is a temporary sticking plaster and they come out and _ get is a temporary sticking plaster and they come out and go - get is a temporary sticking plaster and they come out and go back. get is a temporary sticking plasterj and they come out and go back in. you may— and they come out and go back in. you may have _ and they come out and go back in. you may have heard _ and they come out and go back in. you may have heard the _ and they come out and go back in. | you may have heard the chancellor stay at the weekend, it's not all about funding, in terms at the nhs, it's about the way the money is spent. do you see that as well or not? , , , �* , not? definitely, but king's fund did some research _ not? definitely, but king's fund did some research and the _ not? definitely, but king's fund did some research and the nhs is - some research and the nhs is very efficient _ some research and the nhs is very efficient you — some research and the nhs is very efficient. you cannot— some research and the nhs is very efficient. you cannot buy— some research and the nhs is very efficient. you cannot buy things. efficient. you cannot buy things which _ efficient. you cannot buy things which cost _ efficient. you cannot buy things which cost more _ efficient. you cannot buy things which cost more now, - efficient. you cannot buy things which cost more now, so- efficient. you cannot buy things which cost more now, so new. efficient. you cannot buy things- which cost more now, so new drugs, new medication, _ which cost more now, so new drugs, new medication, research _ which cost more now, so new drugs, new medication, research done - which cost more now, so new drugs, i new medication, research done needs more _ new medication, research done needs more funds _ new medication, research done needs more funds they— new medication, research done needs more funds. they keep _ new medication, research done needs more funds. they keep promising - new medication, research done needs more funds. they keep promising the| more funds. they keep promising the public— more funds. they keep promising the public that— more funds. they keep promising the public that they — more funds. they keep promising the public that they deserve _ more funds. they keep promising the public that they deserve the - more funds. they keep promising the public that they deserve the best - public that they deserve the best care but— public that they deserve the best care but at— public that they deserve the best care but at the _ public that they deserve the best care but at the minute, - public that they deserve the best care but at the minute, i- public that they deserve the best care but at the minute, i am - care but at the minute, i am practising _ care but at the minute, i am practising what _ care but at the minute, i am practising what will- care but at the minute, i am practising what will be - care but at the minute, i am| practising what will be called care but at the minute, i am - practising what will be called the best affordable _ practising what will be called the best affordable care, _ practising what will be called the best affordable care, not - practising what will be called the best affordable care, not best i practising what will be called the i best affordable care, not best care. thank _ best affordable care, not best care. thank christine _ best affordable care, not best care. thank christine charting, _ best affordable care, not best care. thank christine charting, the - best affordable care, not best care. thank christine charting, the lib. thank christine charting, the lib dems— thank christine charting, the lib dems last — thank christine charting, the lib dems last year _ thank christine charting, the lib dems last year dropped - thank christine charting, the lib dems last year dropped their. thank christine charting, the lib. dems last year dropped their plans to add _ dems last year dropped their plans to add a _ dems last year dropped their plans to add a penny— dems last year dropped their plans to add a penny on _ dems last year dropped their plans to add a penny on income - dems last year dropped their plans to add a penny on income tax, - dems last year dropped their plans i to add a penny on income tax, which you said _ to add a penny on income tax, which you said would — to add a penny on income tax, which you said would go _ to add a penny on income tax, which you said would go to _ to add a penny on income tax, which you said would go to the _ to add a penny on income tax, which you said would go to the nhs. - to add a penny on income tax, which you said would go to the nhs. whyfl you said would go to the nhs. why? because tim — you said would go to the nhs. why? because tim krul_ you said would go to the nhs. why? because tim krul the _ you said would go to the nhs. why? because tim krul the nhs _ you said would go to the nhs.“ because tim krul the nhs does need investment. we want to see the government reversing the cuts, because it's been a real terms budget cut. a new policy will be unveiled before the election and we want to see investment in the nhs. will you bring back the 1p on income tax? brute will you bring back the 1p on income tax? ~ ., will you bring back the 1p on income tax? ~ . . , ., tax? we will wait and see what the chancellor announced _ tax? we will wait and see what the chancellor announced on _ tax? we will wait and see what the i chancellor announced on wednesday because it's vital there is a reversal of the cut we have seen in real terms to the nhs budget of about £1.3 billion. what we want to see happen is reversing things like the cut of the surcharges to the big banks. they should be paying more. the banking rates, the cuts there should be reversed. they have been cut since 2016. that is how we would find the money to invest in the nhs. what about the 1p on income tax? brute what about the 1p on income tax? - thought there was a better way of doing it, not putting more tax on people, but things like the windfall tax, if we had a proper windfall tax it would raise £15 billion over five years. reversing the cuts to the big bank bonuses would raise £3 billion in one yearand bank bonuses would raise £3 billion in one year and 18 billion over five years. that's where the money needs to come from to invest in the nhs. let me bring in david white of reform uk. what would reform uk to the waiting list? brute reform uk. what would reform uk to the waiting list?— the waiting list? we have promised to et the waiting list? we have promised to get waiting _ the waiting list? we have promised to get waiting lists _ the waiting list? we have promised to get waiting lists down _ the waiting list? we have promised to get waiting lists down to - the waiting list? we have promised to get waiting lists down to zero i to get waiting lists down to zero within— to get waiting lists down to zero within two years.— within two years. really? tell me how that's _ within two years. really? tell me how that's doable? _ within two years. really? tell me how that's doable? if _ within two years. really? tell me how that's doable? if you - within two years. really? tell me how that's doable? if you look i within two years. really? tell me how that's doable? if you look at | how that's doable? if you look at the performance _ how that's doable? if you look at the performance of _ how that's doable? if you look at the performance of nhs - how that's doable? if you look at i the performance of nhs hospitals, there _ the performance of nhs hospitals, there is— the performance of nhs hospitals, there is a — the performance of nhs hospitals, there is a golf compared to private hospitals — there is a golf compared to private hospitals i— there is a golf compared to private hospitals. i read a report last year that talked — hospitals. i read a report last year that talked about the management of the nhs, _ that talked about the management of the nhs, the huge inefficiencies. that was— the nhs, the huge inefficiencies. that was written in the early 19905 by sir— that was written in the early 19905 by sirjohn— that was written in the early 19905 by sirjohn hodge jones and nothing was changed. in real terms, the nhs has received — was changed. in real terms, the nhs has received more funding than ever before _ has received more funding than ever before. ., has received more funding than ever before. . ., . before. there are now about 7.7 million cases _ before. there are now about 7.7 million cases on _ before. there are now about 7.7 million cases on the _ before. there are now about 7.7 million cases on the waiting - before. there are now about 7.7| million cases on the waiting list. how would you get that to zero in two years? bi; how would you get that to zero in two years?— two years? by introducing power sector competition, _ two years? by introducing power sector competition, giving - two years? by introducing power. sector competition, giving patients a voucher— sector competition, giving patients a voucher scheme whereby, if they can't _ a voucher scheme whereby, if they can't see _ a voucher scheme whereby, if they can't see a — a voucher scheme whereby, if they can't see a gp in three days, go to a private _ can't see a gp in three days, go to a private gp~ — can't see a gp in three days, go to a private gp. what i will say as well, _ a private gp. what i will say as well, because you talk about the experience of the nhs, they literally— experience of the nhs, they literally saved my life for five years — literally saved my life for five years ago and the service and attention— years ago and the service and attention i got was absolutely exemplary, so there is a huge personal— exemplary, so there is a huge personal debt there. but i still don't — personal debt there. but i still don't think a lot of the figures bandied — don't think a lot of the figures bandied about are accurate. we need much _ bandied about are accurate. we need much more _ bandied about are accurate. we need much more efficiency within the nhs, five turnaround for patient care. do ou five turnaround for patient care. you have a five turnaround for patient care. idif,�* you have a figure for how much it would cost to get the nhs there over two years? it’s would cost to get the nhs there over two ears? �* , ., would cost to get the nhs there over two ears? �* , . ., would cost to get the nhs there over two ears? �*, . ., two years? it's all in our contract. its two years? it's all in our contract. its 30 billion _ two years? it's all in our contract. its 30 billion over _ two years? it's all in our contract. its 30 billion over two _ two years? it's all in our contract. its 30 billion over two years, - two years? it's all in our contract. its 30 billion over two years, and | its 30 billion over two years, and there is a technical white of you raising that money, but it's on the website if you are interested. i’m website if you are interested. i'm from sheffield that i run the largest— from sheffield that i run the largest network _ from sheffield that i run the largest network of- from sheffield that i run the largest network of baby - from sheffield that i run the l largest network of baby banks from sheffield that i run the - largest network of baby banks in the uk and _ largest network of baby banks in the uk and i_ largest network of baby banks in the uk and i want — largest network of baby banks in the uk and i want to— largest network of baby banks in the uk and i want to know— largest network of baby banks in the uk and i want to know how- largest network of baby banks in the uk and i want to know how you - largest network of baby banks in the uk and i want to know how you are i uk and i want to know how you are going _ uk and i want to know how you are going to _ uk and i want to know how you are going to retain— uk and i want to know how you are going to retain nhs— uk and i want to know how you are going to retain nhs staff. - uk and i want to know how you are going to retain nhs staff. i- going to retain nhs staff. i work with midwives _ going to retain nhs staff. i work with midwives and _ going to retain nhs staff. i work with midwives and health - going to retain nhs staff. i worki with midwives and health visitors and local— with midwives and health visitors and local authority _ with midwives and health visitors and local authority workers. - with midwives and health visitorsj and local authority workers. they are so _ and local authority workers. they are so dedicated _ and local authority workers. they are so dedicated to _ and local authority workers. they are so dedicated to what - and local authority workers. they are so dedicated to what they. and local authority workers. they| are so dedicated to what they do. and to _ are so dedicated to what they do. and to providing _ are so dedicated to what they do. and to providing the _ are so dedicated to what they do. and to providing the best- are so dedicated to what they do. and to providing the best for- are so dedicated to what they do. and to providing the best for the| and to providing the best for the families— and to providing the best for the families they _ and to providing the best for the families they support. _ and to providing the best for the families they support. but - and to providing the best for the families they support. but they. and to providing the best for the . families they support. but they are so overworked. _ families they support. but they are so overworked. we _ families they support. but they are so overworked. we have _ families they support. but they are so overworked. we have midwives| so overworked. we have midwives collecting — so overworked. we have midwives collecting from _ so overworked. we have midwives collecting from us _ so overworked. we have midwives collecting from us on _ so overworked. we have midwives collecting from us on their - so overworked. we have midwives collecting from us on their days i so overworked. we have midwives| collecting from us on their days off because _ collecting from us on their days off because they — collecting from us on their days off because they want _ collecting from us on their days off because they want to _ collecting from us on their days off because they want to do _ collecting from us on their days off because they want to do their - collecting from us on their days off because they want to do their best| because they want to do their best for the _ because they want to do their best for the families— because they want to do their best for the families and _ because they want to do their best for the families and i— because they want to do their best for the families and i don't- because they want to do their best for the families and i don't know. for the families and i don't know how we — for the families and i don't know how we are _ for the families and i don't know how we are going _ for the families and i don't know how we are going to _ for the families and i don't know how we are going to keep- for the families and i don't knowi how we are going to keep going. for the families and i don't know- how we are going to keep going. we are already— how we are going to keep going. we are already seeing _ how we are going to keep going. we are already seeing the _ how we are going to keep going. we are already seeing the health - are already seeing the health support— are already seeing the health support fund _ are already seeing the health support fund being _ are already seeing the health support fund being cut, - are already seeing the health . support fund being cut, holiday hunger— support fund being cut, holiday hunger being _ support fund being cut, holiday hunger being cut, _ support fund being cut, holiday hunger being cut, i— support fund being cut, holiday hunger being cut, i am - support fund being cut, holiday hunger being cut, i am scared. support fund being cut, holiday- hunger being cut, i am scared what the referral— hunger being cut, i am scared what the referral rates _ hunger being cut, i am scared what the referral rates in— hunger being cut, i am scared what the referral rates in my— the referral rates in my organisation _ the referral rates in my organisation are - the referral rates in my organisation are going i the referral rates in my. organisation are going to the referral rates in my- organisation are going to rise to later— organisation are going to rise to later this — organisation are going to rise to later this year _ organisation are going to rise to later this year and _ organisation are going to rise to later this year and how- organisation are going to rise to later this year and how the - organisation are going to rise to later this year and how the nhs| organisation are going to rise to l later this year and how the nhs is going _ later this year and how the nhs is going to _ later this year and how the nhs is going to cope _ later this year and how the nhs is going to cope hithe— later this year and how the nhs is going to cone-— later this year and how the nhs is going to cope-— later this year and how the nhs is ua-ointocoe.~ , ., ~ . going to cope. why do you think that our going to cope. why do you think that your referral — going to cope. why do you think that your referral rates _ going to cope. why do you think that your referral rates are _ going to cope. why do you think that your referral rates are going - going to cope. why do you think that your referral rates are going to - going to cope. why do you think that your referral rates are going to go i your referral rates are going to go up? your referral rates are going to go u . ? �* . ., , , your referral rates are going to go up? because they support isn't there for families to _ up? because they support isn't there for families to one _ up? because they support isn't there for families to one in _ up? because they support isn't there for families to one in 100 _ up? because they support isn't there for families to one in 100 babies - for families to one in 100 babies born— for families to one in 100 babies born in— for families to one in 100 babies born in 2022— for families to one in 100 babies born in 2022 received _ for families to one in 100 babies born in 2022 received a - for families to one in 100 babies born in 2022 received a moses l for families to one in 100 babies- born in 2022 received a moses basket from one _ born in 2022 received a moses basket from one of— born in 2022 received a moses basket from one of my— born in 2022 received a moses basket from one of my sentence, _ born in 2022 received a moses basket from one of my sentence, not - born in 2022 received a moses basket from one of my sentence, not the - from one of my sentence, not the baby— from one of my sentence, not the baby banks — from one of my sentence, not the baby banks around _ from one of my sentence, not the baby banks around the _ from one of my sentence, not the baby banks around the uk. - from one of my sentence, not the baby banks around the uk. what. from one of my sentence, not the baby banks around the uk. what do ou think baby banks around the uk. what do you think about _ baby banks around the uk. what do you think about the _ baby banks around the uk. what do you think about the fact _ baby banks around the uk. what do you think about the fact that - baby banks around the uk. what do you think about the fact that those l you think about the fact that those are not figures? it’s you think about the fact that those are not figures?— are not figures? it's horrendous. the demand _ are not figures? it's horrendous. the demand have _ are not figures? it's horrendous. the demand have never- are not figures? it's horrendous. the demand have never been - are not figures? it's horrendous. - the demand have never been higher than it— the demand have never been higher than it is— the demand have never been higher than it is now — the demand have never been higher than it is now. families— the demand have never been higher than it is now. families are - than it is now. families are struggling _ than it is now. families are struggling and _ than it is now. families are struggling and they - than it is now. families are struggling and they need . than it is now. families are - struggling and they need support. i hear horror— struggling and they need support. i hear horror stories _ struggling and they need support. i hear horror stories of _ hear horror stories of eight—week—old - hear horror stories of eight—week—old babyi hear horror stories of . eight—week—old baby is hear horror stories of _ eight—week—old baby is sleeping in bouncy— eight—week—old baby is sleeping in bouncy chairs, _ eight—week—old baby is sleeping in bouncy chairs, two—year—old - eight—week—old baby is sleeping in. bouncy chairs, two—year—old sleeping in valves _ bouncy chairs, two—year—old sleeping in valves because _ bouncy chairs, two—year—old sleeping in valves because families _ bouncy chairs, two—year—old sleeping in valves because families can - bouncy chairs, two—year—old sleeping in valves because families can get - in valves because families can get the support— in valves because families can get the support they— in valves because families can get the support they need. _ in valves because families can get the support they need. —— - in valves because families can get. the support they need. —— sleeping in bathurst~ — the support they need. —— sleeping in bathurst. it's— the support they need. —— sleeping in bathurst. it's horrendous- the support they need. —— sleeping in bathurst. it's horrendous and - the support they need. —— sleeping in bathurst. it's horrendous and we do all— in bathurst. it's horrendous and we do all we _ in bathurst. it's horrendous and we do all we can— in bathurst. it's horrendous and we do all we can to— in bathurst. it's horrendous and we do all we can to ensure _ in bathurst. it's horrendous and we do all we can to ensure every- in bathurst. it's horrendous and we do all we can to ensure every child | do all we can to ensure every child has to— do all we can to ensure every child has to sleep. — do all we can to ensure every child has to sleep. to _ do all we can to ensure every child has to sleep, to sleep, _ do all we can to ensure every child has to sleep, to sleep, to- do all we can to ensure every child has to sleep, to sleep, to make i do all we can to ensure every child . has to sleep, to sleep, to make sure families— has to sleep, to sleep, to make sure families don't — has to sleep, to sleep, to make sure families don't have _ has to sleep, to sleep, to make sure families don't have to _ has to sleep, to sleep, to make sure families don't have to choose - families don't have to choose between _ families don't have to choose between food _ families don't have to choose between food and _ families don't have to choose between food and heat - families don't have to choose between food and heat and l families don't have to choose - between food and heat and clothing and school — between food and heat and clothing and school shoes, _ between food and heat and clothing and school shoes, but— between food and heat and clothing and school shoes, but we _ between food and heat and clothing and school shoes, but we get- between food and heat and clothing and school shoes, but we get no. and school shoes, but we get no government— and school shoes, but we get no government funding. _ and school shoes, but we get no government funding. to - and school shoes, but we get no government funding. to source i and school shoes, but we get no. government funding. to source that money _ government funding. to source that money my— government funding. to source that money. my sheffield _ government funding. to source that money. my sheffield sent... - government funding. to source that money. my sheffield sent... if- government funding. to source that money. my sheffield sent... if you. money. my sheffield sent... if you and our money. my sheffield sent... if you and your organisation _ money. my sheffield sent... if you and your organisation weren't - money. my sheffield sent...” and your organisation weren't there what would that mean? more pressure on social care- — what would that mean? more pressure on social care. more _ what would that mean? more pressure on social care. more children _ what would that mean? more pressure on social care. more children would - on social care. more children would be taken _ on social care. more children would be taken into— on social care. more children would be taken into care. _ on social care. more children would be taken into care. i’m“ _ on social care. more children would be taken into care.— be taken into care. i'm going to come back— be taken into care. i'm going to come back to — be taken into care. i'm going to come back to alison _ be taken into care. i'm going to come back to alison mcgovern l come back to alison mcgovern about the images work. before covid, there were about 100,000 vacancies in the nhs. covid had a devastating effect but how would you retain people and get more people in? make it tough. i'm married to somebody who works in their chest so i know all about it. my their chest so i know all about it. my mother lots of it was. these issues have affected us as a family. we have had young children, so childcare has been really important and i have been the children and families minister. we try to provide as much support as possible. sometimes we also rely on the voluntary sector and we work hand—in—hand with them but at the same time with the nhs it's not been helped with waiting lists with the pandemic, and we had to play catch—up. pandemic, and we had to play catch-unm— pandemic, and we had to play catch-u-. , my , , catch-up. this is by 'ust putting in more money _ catch-up. this is by 'ust putting in more money isn't — catch-up. this is byjust putting in more money isn't going _ catch-up. this is byjust putting in more money isn't going to - catch-up. this is byjust putting in more money isn't going to solve l catch-up. this is byjust putting in l more money isn't going to solve the problem _ more money isn't going to solve the problem. you can't magic staff out of thin— problem. you can't magic staff out of thin air~ — problem. you can't magic staff out of thin air. ~ . ., problem. you can't magic staff out of thin air-— of thin air. what would solve the problem? _ of thin air. what would solve the problem? and — of thin air. what would solve the problem? and haven't _ of thin air. what would solve the problem? and haven't you - of thin air. what would solve the problem? and haven't you had l of thin air. what would solve the - problem? and haven't you had enough time to fix it?— time to fix it? workload is important- _ time to fix it? workload is important. we _ time to fix it? workload is important. we have - time to fix it? workload is important. we have to - time to fix it? workload is i important. we have to make time to fix it? workload is - important. we have to make sure people _ important. we have to make sure people are — important. we have to make sure people are valued and paid a good salary— people are valued and paid a good salary but — people are valued and paid a good salary but also there are doctors who are — salary but also there are doctors who are retiring, and some to that because _ who are retiring, and some to that because the — who are retiring, and some to that because the tax rules with the pensions, _ because the tax rules with the pensions, so we have looked at that to make _ pensions, so we have looked at that to make it— pensions, so we have looked at that to make it worth their while. he vomited — to make it worth their while. he vomited mentioned —— the pharmacist mentioned, _ vomited mentioned —— the pharmacist mentioned, and there is a lot they can do _ mentioned, and there is a lot they can do. we — mentioned, and there is a lot they can do. ~ . ., mentioned, and there is a lot they can do. ~ . . ,, ., , mentioned, and there is a lot they cando. . . ,, can do. we all want the nhs to be as efficient as they _ can do. we all want the nhs to be as efficient as they can _ can do. we all want the nhs to be as efficient as they can be, _ can do. we all want the nhs to be as efficient as they can be, and - can do. we all want the nhs to be as efficient as they can be, and it - can do. we all want the nhs to be as efficient as they can be, and it is - efficient as they can be, and it is very efficient. we all want people, my gp surgery, you can book an appointment online for trip i think i am probably, appointment online for trip i think lam probably, i appointment online for trip i think i am probably, i don't think that's everywhere the tip but the truth is that the nhs is on its knees. what that the nhs is on its knees. what would ou that the nhs is on its knees. what would you do _ that the nhs is on its knees. what would you do differently? - that the nhs is on its knees. what would you do differently? when i i would you do differently? when i hear people _ would you do differently? when i hear people in — would you do differently? when i hear people in the _ would you do differently? when i hear people in the nhs, - would you do differently? when i i hear people in the nhs, particularly on the wirral, talking to me about the type of staffing problems they have got, we need the workforce plan that the tories agreed to labour's but also we need to enter that non—dom tax break to get that money into the nhs, non-dom tax break to get that money into the nhs.— into the nhs, because that will rovide into the nhs, because that will provide for _ into the nhs, because that will provide for 2 — into the nhs, because that will provide for 2 million _ into the nhs, because that will provide for 2 million more - provide for 2 million more operations and appointments, get that funding in support our nhs. i am very worried about the knock—on impact that the nhs's situation has on people's daily lives, their ability to do all the things they might wish to. of course, efficiency and effectiveness have to be a priority, but get that non—dom tax break ended and get that money into our nhs. we wa nt we want to talk about levelling up. it was one of the signature policies of the boris johnson government to people here when it was elected in 2019. a report out today suggests that former coal—mining areas like here are falling further behind the rest of britain, decades on from pit closures — that's according to the coalfields regeneration trust. doncaster is one of 55 towns and cities chosen to get a share of the £1 billion levelling up fund — just over 18 million it's getting to transform its city centre. what does levelling up mean to you? i am here representing sd thermal, you mention carbon capture a while ago, it a company that is looking to do that, for me i have heard about skills and employment and that is why we are putting our effort as an organisation, i think having pace on investment, and encouraging private investment, and encouraging private investment alongside public spending is important to us, and i don't disagree with anything i have heard necessarily, but what i do feel about this area and the broader region is there is a lot of positivity, so there is large organisations looking to invest private money. organisations looking to invest private money-— organisations looking to invest rivate mone . ~ . , . ,, . private money. what is your appeal to politician — private money. what is your appeal to politician of— private money. what is your appeal to politician of all— private money. what is your appeal to politician of all colours _ private money. what is your appeal to politician of all colours and - to politician of all colours and have you seen some of it from the conservative government?- have you seen some of it from the conservative government? we're have treat conservative government? we're have great commitment _ conservative government? we're have great commitment from _ conservative government? we're have great commitment from conservative l great commitment from conservative and labour, a clean power system, what we need is pace in encouraging private investment. that is looking at policies and business models that sit round that but the bigger picture around what we need to remember is what that can deliver for people so we see investment and the benefits they bring and invest in services and people living and working in the area, that is key, putting pace behind these investments and real commitment from both parties. what does levelling up mean to you. i am michelle from doncaster housing for young _ i am michelle from doncaster housing for young people we work with 16—25—year—olds who are homeless or sprain _ 16—25—year—olds who are homeless or sprain rabblely housed. i want to ask about — sprain rabblely housed. i want to ask about the housing allowance and the living _ ask about the housing allowance and the living allowance for the universal credit, specifically around _ universal credit, specifically around over 35s and under 35s, because — around over 35s and under 35s, because because it... around over 35s and under 35s, because because it. . ._ around over 35s and under 35s, because because it... more for under #355, because because it... more for under #35s. sorry — because because it... more for under #35s. sorry to _ because because it... more for under #35s, sorry to interrupts, _ because because it... more for under #35s, sorry to interrupts, that - #355, sorry to interrupts, that affects younger people when they are trying to rent somewhere, a landlord might say it is not enough. thea;r trying to rent somewhere, a landlord might say it is not enough.— might say it is not enough. they get a lot less so — might say it is not enough. they get a lot less so we _ might say it is not enough. they get a lot less so we don't _ might say it is not enough. they get a lot less so we don't have - might say it is not enough. they get a lot less so we don't have enough l a lot less so we don't have enough social— a lot less so we don't have enough social housing they are in the private — social housing they are in the private rented sector and a landlord is always _ private rented sector and a landlord is always going to choose somebody who is _ is always going to choose somebody who is getting more money. so is always going to choose somebody who is getting more money.- who is getting more money. so are ou sa int who is getting more money. so are you saying levelling _ who is getting more money. so are you saying levelling up _ who is getting more money. so are you saying levelling up is _ who is getting more money. so are you saying levelling up is matching | you saying levelling up is matching what a 25—year—old and 35—year—old gets? what a 25-year-old and 35-year-old tets? �* , ,., , what a 25-year-old and 35-year-old tets?,,, , 4' ., , gets? absolutely, you know, they, the , the gets? absolutely, you know, they, they. the bills _ gets? absolutely, you know, they, they, the bills are _ gets? absolutely, you know, they, they, the bills are the _ gets? absolutely, you know, they, they, the bills are the same, - gets? absolutely, you know, they, they, the bills are the same, gas, | they, the bills are the same, gas, electric— they, the bills are the same, gas, electric it — they, the bills are the same, gas, electric it is — they, the bills are the same, gas, electric it is all the same, so, yes — electric it is all the same, so, es. . ~' electric it is all the same, so, es. . ~ , ., electric it is all the same, so, es. . a electric it is all the same, so, es. ., ~' a ., electric it is all the same, so, yes. thank you michelle. hello. i amar rick— yes. thank you michelle. hello. i amar rick from _ yes. thank you michelle. hello. i amar rick from doncaster, - yes. thank you michelle. hello. i amar rick from doncaster, i'm . yes. thank you michelle. hello. i amar rick from doncaster, i'm a| amar rick from doncaster, i'm a business owner, a fire safety club tansey, we spend a lot of our time relooking at refurbishments for buildings that have been brought back up to housing, a lot of the time, but levelling up to me is all about that improving the infrastructure, improving buildings. have you seen it in this area? some of it. i have you seen it in this area? some of it- lthink— have you seen it in this area? some of it. | think that — have you seen it in this area? some of it. | think that a _ have you seen it in this area? some of it. | think that a lot _ have you seen it in this area? some of it. i think that a lot of— have you seen it in this area? some of it. | think that a lot of it - have you seen it in this area? some of it. i think that a lot of it is, - of it. i think that a lot of it is, of it. i think that a lot of it is, of course, you know, private refurbishments, so improvement of buildings, think there needs to be more of it. think there is a lot of buildings that are dying to be refurbished. i was talking earlier, with someone regarding this, in sheffield, and in doncaster there needs to be more, shopping centres, shopping store, department stores that have been... flan shopping store, department stores that have been. . ._ that have been... can i ask, on sin that have been... can i ask, on signty -- _ that have been... can i ask, on signty -- unscientific _ that have been... can i ask, on signty -- unscientific sample, | that have been... can i ask, on - signty -- unscientific sample, have signty —— unscientific sample, have you seen levelling up in this area. allzthat sounded like pretty much everyone in the room. all:that sounded like pretty much everyone in the room.— all:that sounded like pretty much everyone in the room. victoria, born and bread doncaster, _ everyone in the room. victoria, born and bread doncaster, walk— everyone in the room. victoria, born and bread doncaster, walk through i and bread doncaster, walk through doncaster last week, it's a ghost town, it is not a city, it is a town, it is not a city, it is a town, it is not a city, it is a town, it a ghost town, and there ises than been a lack of investment. people used to come to doncaster from miles round, it is a ghost town, they have put investment in and turned it into the booze capital of yorkshire, i delta variant go out on a saturday night in doncaster, it is fearful. we have turn it into a ghost town, it needs generation and investment back in to doncaster, if they are going to put it in. that money will _ they are going to put it in. that money will help? _ they are going to put it in. that money will help? let _ they are going to put it in. that money will help? let us - they are going to put it in. that money will help? let us see i they are going to put it in. that. money will help? let us see action and not words. _ and not words. action not words, brendan clarke—smith, it sounded to me like everyone in the room said they hadn't seen levelling up, that was the big promise from the 2019 conservative manifesto. you can't have growth without the private sector which goes hand in hand with what the government does but in pass let law i can give you several example, we have had money for the a&e department and the children's ward, we have had money for the town centre for we know town centres have changed. we a former coal mime mining area, we were one of the last coal—fired power stations in the country. that will generate jobs. coal—fired power stations in the country. that will generatejobs. it is all linked in. this is the point, it a long—term mission for us, really, it is not going to happen overnight. really, it is not going to happen overnitht. :: ' really, it is not going to happen overnight-— really, it is not going to happen overnitht. :: ' ., , overnight. 20% of the levelling up ro'ects overnight. 20% of the levelling up projects that _ overnight. 20% of the levelling up projects that have _ overnight. 20% of the levelling up projects that have been _ overnight. 20% of the levelling up projects that have been starting . projects that have been starting aren't— projects that have been starting aren't completed. it feels to people in the _ aren't completed. it feels to people in the country, that it is not levelling _ in the country, that it is not levelling up, it is levelling down, you go— levelling up, it is levelling down, you go to — levelling up, it is levelling down, you go to town centres throughout the country, you see empty buildings that could _ the country, you see empty buildings that could be refurbished as the gentleman said for house, it is not happening. — gentleman said for house, it is not happening, the basic problem is that this government doesn't have a plan, it doesn't— this government doesn't have a plan, it doesn't have an industrial plan, i it doesn't have an industrial plan, i doesn't — it doesn't have an industrial plan, i doesn't have an investment plan for businesses. do i doesn't have an investment plan for businesses.— for businesses. do you want to resond for businesses. do you want to respond top — for businesses. do you want to respond top that? _ for businesses. do you want to respond top that? it _ for businesses. do you want to respond top that? it doesn't i for businesses. do you want to i respond top that? it doesn't have for businesses. do you want to - respond top that? it doesn't have a [an for respond top that? it doesn't have a plan for the — respond top that? it doesn't have a plan forthe nhs. _ respond top that? it doesn't have a plan for the nhs, it _ respond top that? it doesn't have a plan for the nhs, it goes _ respond top that? it doesn't have a plan for the nhs, it goes from - plan for the nhs, it goes from crisis — plan for the nhs, it goes from crisis to— plan for the nhs, it goes from crisis to crisis and... plan for the nhs, it goes from crisis to crisis and. . ._ plan for the nhs, it goes from crisis to crisis and... certainly in terms of how — crisis to crisis and... certainly in terms of how we _ crisis to crisis and... certainly in terms of how we want _ crisis to crisis and... certainly in terms of how we want to - crisis to crisis and... certainly in terms of how we want to invest, borisjohnson made a big deal of levelling up. it is nojust about large cash transferser it is about pride in community, opportunities... there are people here, with respect, there are people here in the audience who are laughing at what you are seeing because they don't... we spent £400 on the pandemic, it has impacted the nhs, a lot of building project, it has impacted all of these things together now so we are still recovering from that but we are going on the right path. getting inflation down and we will see that levelling up and investment, including here in doncaster east. but investment, including here in doncaster east.— investment, including here in doncaster east. �* �* . doncaster east. but there wasn't a andemic doncaster east. but there wasn't a pandemic when — doncaster east. but there wasn't a pandemic when conservative - pandemic when conservative chancellors like george osborne decided — chancellors like george osborne decided that local authorities would take the _ decided that local authorities would take the brunt of the cuts and they would _ take the brunt of the cuts and they would get — take the brunt of the cuts and they would get year— by—year settlements and never— would get year— by—year settlements and never been able to properly plan or make _ and never been able to properly plan or make things happen, so the gentleman there said we need action, not words. _ gentleman there said we need action, not words, and i think he's right, levelling — not words, and i think he's right, levelling up, this competition between area, that was the wrong idea, _ between area, that was the wrong idea, what— between area, that was the wrong idea, what you needed was consistent plans, _ idea, what you needed was consistent plans, in— idea, what you needed was consistent plans, in places that really needed it over— plans, in places that really needed it over time. plans, in places that really needed it overtime. i know plans, in places that really needed it over time. i know it is not easy and has — it over time. i know it is not easy and has been pointed out we have lots of _ and has been pointed out we have lots of empty buildings, we need a retrofitting scheme to bring them back in— retrofitting scheme to bring them back in use, it is not easy but what we need _ back in use, it is not easy but what we need is — back in use, it is not easy but what we need is consistency and not to make _ we need is consistency and not to make our— we need is consistency and not to make our town halls again and again and again— make our town halls again and again and again bearthe make our town halls again and again and again bear the brunt of cuts. levelling — and again bear the brunt of cuts. levelling up, when that was announce everybody was excited. it sounded great. 4 billion was never going to scratch the surface, local councils, the governments have adopted a begging bowl approach where local councils have to fill out tenners, it is estimated £27 million has been spent by a local councils applying for levelling up funding what do we see for it? we, i know the area very well, in barnsley we have exactly the same issues as doncaster town centre spent a lot more than £18 million there, has it worked, to a degree, but... it million there, has it worked, to a degree. but---— million there, has it worked, to a degree, but... it works if the money tets degree, but... it works if the money gets there- — degree, but... it works if the money gets there- to _ degree, but... it works if the money gets there. to a _ degree, but... it works if the money gets there. to a degree. _ degree, but... it works if the money gets there. to a degree. yes, - degree, but... it works if the money gets there. to a degree. yes, we i gets there. to a degree. yes, we haven't got _ gets there. to a degree. yes, we haven't got much _ gets there. to a degree. yes, we haven't got much time _ gets there. to a degree. yes, we haven't got much time left i gets there. to a degree. yes, we haven't got much time left so i i haven't got much time left so i might whizz the microphone along. i am from doncaster and i work in theatre, let us call it out what it is, it is meaningless, it's a meaningless phrase, it is complete rhetoric... applause. who knee knew that borisjohnson might put a policy out and lie about it. (w might put a policy out and lie about it. 'j~ . , . might put a policy out and lie about it. 'j~ . might put a policy out and lie about it. 'f~ ., , ., .,. how it. the 18ml, that is a fact... how much has — it. the 18ml, that is a fact... how much has been _ it. the 18ml, that is a fact... how much has been taken _

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wednesday and beyond, high pressure building across in scandinavia, low—pressure out to this programme continues on bbc one. later this year, you will choose your next government. tonight, ahead of what could be the last budget before that election, the people of doncaster east tell us what their life is like, and what they would like to hear from politicians in the coming months. election, the people of doncaster east tell us what their life is like, and what they would like to hear from politicians in the coming months. good evening and welcome to lincolnshire. the chancellor delivers his budget in two days�* time, and that could be the last big economic announcement before the next general election. showers elsewhere but many again will have a predominately dry day on wednesday, it's the successor to the don valley seat, a former coal mining area where voters elected only labour mps from 1922 to 2019. that's when the conservatives wanted for the very first time. we've invited an audience and hopefully brought together people from all walks of life. some of you are also joining us because you've specifically raised issues about the cost of living and the challenges faced by small businesses in the region. and we have some politicians too, of course — we'll introduce them after we've heard from you. is for one particular type, people who have severe alopecia and severe, as categorized for this particular treatment, is in excess of 50% of hair loss, so, quite a long way on your hair lossjourney, hair loss, so, quite a long way on your hair loss journey, before you would be able to up until recently i was working as a doctor's receptionist, i'm currently at work —— looking for work. i've never known it to be so difficult. both my sons are looking for work, there's just nothing there, the only thing. only things, everything is minimum wage, obviously i'm 60 this year, i have a lot of skills, done loads of differentjobs and i am really struggling to find work and i have never known to be, i've got a partner who works as well, trying to make ends meet is just nigh partner who works as well, trying to make ends meet isjust nigh on impossible. i5 make ends meet is “ust nigh on impossiblah make ends meet is 'ust nigh on impossiblah impossible. is it? what kind of thins do impossible. is it? what kind of things do you _ impossible. is it? what kind of things do you do _ impossible. is it? what kind of things do you do karen, - impossible. is it? what kind of things do you do karen, what i impossible. is it? what kind of - things do you do karen, what choices do you have to make? like things do you do karen, what choices do you have to make?— do you have to make? like most --eole do you have to make? like most peeple these _ do you have to make? like most people these days _ do you have to make? like most people these days i _ do you have to make? like most people these days i do _ do you have to make? like most people these days i do shopping | do you have to make? like most l people these days i do shopping in aldi and liddle, trying to be as cheap as possible. we don't go on holidays, i can't remember the last time we went out for a meal, everything is to the bear bones, everything is to the bear bones, everything is to the bear bones, everything is going up all the time —— bare bones, everything is going up all the time -- bare bones.— everything is going up all the time -- bare bones, what is responsible do ou -- bare bones, what is responsible do you think. _ -- bare bones, what is responsible do you think, who _ -- bare bones, what is responsible do you think, who is _ -- bare bones, what is responsible do you think, who is responsible? i do you think, who is responsible? the government 100%, the economic policies they have made, the tax cuts for the rich. we said about levelling up, that nobody feels like it is levelled up round here that i know of, and people who are in similar situations to myself, they have worked all their lives and should be a time now, where i can put money away for saving for retirement. it isjust, doesn't seems like an impossible dream at the moment. d0 seems like an impossible dream at the moment-— seems like an impossible dream at the moment. ~ ., ., the moment. do you think about covid and the effect — the moment. do you think about covid and the effect that _ the moment. do you think about covid and the effect that had _ the moment. do you think about covid and the effect that had and _ the moment. do you think about covid and the effect that had and the - the moment. do you think about covid and the effect that had and the war . and the effect that had and the war in ukraine and how that a effecteded energy bills and the help people gave people to help with bills? i do, but i think the ukraine was a political decision, the amount of money that has gone to the ukraine, given the situation of our own country, ijust don't given the situation of our own country, i just don't feel like the right choices have been made, and i completely understand the covid, but the millions, probably billions of like, pounds thaw have been wasted on ppe, and cronyism and ijust think... applause thank you karen. good evening. applause thank ou karen. good evenina. thank you karen. good evening. good evenin: i thank you karen. good evening. good evening i am — thank you karen. good evening. good evening i am mark, _ thank you karen. good evening. good evening i am mark, vicar— thank you karen. good evening. (limo. evening i am mark, vicar of five parishes in the aisle of axholme and chairman of a project, the food share project we are have been running it for two years and it's a food bank essentially.— running it for two years and it's a food bank essentially. what does demand like _ food bank essentially. what does demand like the _ food bank essentially. what does demand like the two _ food bank essentially. what does demand like the two years - food bank essentially. what does demand like the two years ago i food bank essentially. what does i demand like the two years ago and now? ~ , , ., ., , now? when we first started it was robabl now? when we first started it was probably about — now? when we first started it was probably about i _ now? when we first started it was probably about i think _ now? when we first started it was probably about i think on - now? when we first started it was probably about i think on the - now? when we first started it was probably about i think on the first | probably about i think on the first day we had about eight or nine, ten people came in, and now, we are, we are feedings about between 200 and 250 people a week. um? are feedings about between 200 and 250 people a week.— are feedings about between 200 and 250 people a week. why do you think that is? simply _ 250 people a week. why do you think that is? simply because _ 250 people a week. why do you think that is? simply because the - 250 people a week. why do you think| that is? simply because the economic situation, that is? simply because the economic situation. and — that is? simply because the economic situation, and it _ that is? simply because the economic situation, and it is _ that is? simply because the economic situation, and it is not _ that is? simply because the economic situation, and it is notjust _ that is? simply because the economic situation, and it is notjust people - situation, and it is notjust people on low incomes or benefit, it is people who are in full—time employment. people who are in full-time employment-— people who are in full-time employment.- yes, | people who are in full-time _ employment.- yes, absolutely, employment. really? yes, absolutely, in full-time employment _ employment. really? yes, absolutely, in full-time employment and _ employment. really? yes, absolutely, in full-time employment and they - in full—time employment and they cannot make ends meet. we have a food bank as i said, it opens on a friday morning, we have to restrictions on how often people can come, because with some food banks they have, they can only get a certain amount of food, sort of three referrals in a six month period, we open every week, people can come every week, and we also deliver as well, around this local area. ~ ., ., deliver as well, around this local area, ~ ., ., . ., deliver as well, around this local area. ~ ., ., ,, deliver as well, around this local area. ~ ., ., ~ ., area. what do can you think, are the reasons behind _ area. what do can you think, are the reasons behind that _ area. what do can you think, are the reasons behind that big _ area. what do can you think, are the reasons behind that big rise - area. what do can you think, are the reasons behind that big rise in - reasons behind that big rise in demand for your project? i reasons behind that big rise in demand for your project? demand for your pro'ect? i think it is, it's demand for your pro'ect? i think it is. its _ demand for your pro'ect? i think it is, it's rises in _ demand for your pro'ect? i think it is, it's rises in the — demand for your project? i think it is, it's rises in the cost _ demand for your project? i think it is, it's rises in the cost of- is, it's rises in the cost of living, in rents and in fuel, not just domestic fuel but the just transport costs as well. all sorts of things have contributed to that. thank you very much mark. thank you. hello. ,., ., . ., ., , hello. good evening victoria, my name is michael. _ hello. good evening victoria, my name is michael. i— hello. good evening victoria, my name is michael. i am _ hello. good evening victoria, my name is michael. i am a - hello. good evening victoria, my name is michael. i am a born - hello. good evening victoria, my| name is michael. i am a born and bread _ name is michael. i am a born and bread doncaster, being a child of the 60s— bread doncaster, being a child of the 60s i— bread doncaster, being a child of the 605 i can remember the industry we had _ the 605 i can remember the industry we had in _ the 605 i can remember the industry we had in doncaster and scunthorpe up we had in doncaster and scunthorpe up the _ we had in doncaster and scunthorpe up the road, the 5teelwork5, to name a few, _ up the road, the 5teelwork5, to name a few, burton taylor, ici fibre5, internationalal harve5ter5 company 2 so internationalal harve5ter5 company 2 50 big _ internationalal harve5ter5 company 2 so big manufacturers. internationalal harvesters company 2 so big manufacturers.— so big manufacturers. labour intensive _ so big manufacturers. labour intensive manufacturing and. so big manufacturers. labour- intensive manufacturing and then the pits and _ intensive manufacturing and then the pits and those industries, have not been _ pits and those industries, have not been replaced. so the youth and the generation— been replaced. so the youth and the generation that are not the techie, not the _ generation that are not the techie, not the 0 — generation that are not the techie, not the 0 level a—level 5tudent5 not the 0 level a—level students have _ not the 0 level a—level students have nothing to do so they are staying — have nothing to do so they are staying in education for longer than they need _ staying in education for longer than they need tot staying in education for longer than they need to t and we are fudging they need to t and we are fudging the figures, the government is fudging — the figures, the government is fudging figures but throwing loads of money at training when there is no end _ of money at training when there is no end product of a job. i see first handm _ applause . there is plenty of potential, green energy, carbon capture. taste green energy, carbon capture. we need to learn to make thing, the materials— need to learn to make thing, the materials we buy are from germany and france — materials we buy are from germany and france-— and france. could you make them here? british _ and france. could you make them here? british steel, _ and france. could you make them here? british steel, we _ and france. could you make them here? british steel, we weld - and france. could you make them here? british steel, we weld rails| here? british steel, we weld rails touether. here? british steel, we weld rails together- why — here? british steel, we weld rails together. why continue _ here? british steel, we weld rails together. why continue we - here? british steel, we weld rails together. why continue we make | here? british steel, we weld rails - together. why continue we make them here in— together. why continue we make them here in scunthorpe, british steel, -et here in scunthorpe, british steel, get our— here in scunthorpe, british steel, get our finger out and put a business _ get our finger out and put a business together that employs thousands ofjobs. gk, business together that employs thousands ofjobs.— business together that employs thousands of jobs. business together that employs thousands of “obs. . ,, , ., . thousands of “obs. 0k, thank you. we have len thousands ofjobs. 0k, thank you. we have plenty more _ thousands ofjobs. 0k, thank you. we have plenty more opportunity - thousands ofjobs. 0k, thank you. we have plenty more opportunity for, - thousands ofjobs. 0k, thank you. we have plenty more opportunity for, we| have plenty more opportunity for, we want to give your fellow audience member a round of applause, thank you asme brendan clark, we have the chancellor in two days' time, if he was listening, what are you hoping he might do, for some of the people who have spoken this evening? i think this is the impact we have had global factors think this is the impact we have had globalfactors an think this is the impact we have had global factors an inflation think this is the impact we have had globalfactors an inflation is think this is the impact we have had global factors an inflation is the biggest enemy, everything you have heard shows a good example o that. last year it is 10% and now it is down to 4%, if we can't cut inflation. jeremy hunt said the biggest tax cut you can given anybody is getting inflation down. 0nce anybody is getting inflation down. once you get inflation down the bank of england can start looking at interest rates, that affects people's mortgages, the employment we have had to be very careful with public sector pay increases because we don't want to trigger more inflation at the same time, but... what to you want to hear on wednesday?— what to you want to hear on wednesda ? . . , , wednesday? personal tax is very important- _ wednesday? personal tax is very important. taxing _ wednesday? personal tax is very important. taxing the _ wednesday? personal tax is very important. taxing the rich, - wednesday? personal tax is very important. taxing the rich, we i wednesday? personal tax is very i important. taxing the rich, we have been doing that, we have increased taxes a bit. we have had the national insurance cut, i would like to see us going further, help it can self employed out. working parent, there is maybe more we can do with that, looking at the thresholds on top of the childcare.— top of the childcare. alistair, would a potential— top of the childcare. alistair, would a potential labour- top of the childcare. alistair, - would a potential labour government doll anything different, would people see anything different? we people see anything different? - would do things differently. people see anything different? we| would do things differently. what? so our green _ would do things differently. what? so our green investment _ would do things differently. what? so our green investment plan - would do things differently. what? so our green investment plan is i would do things differently. what? so our green investment plan is all about investing in those industries, that we just heard about that are crucial. that we 'ust heard about that are crucial. .. that we 'ust heard about that are crucial. ., , .. that we 'ust heard about that are crucial. ., , ., . ,.. crucial. even though you have scaled that riaht crucial. even though you have scaled that right back? _ crucial. even though you have scaled that right back? but _ crucial. even though you have scaled that right back? but we _ crucial. even though you have scaled that right back? but we have - crucial. even though you have scaled that right back? but we have made i crucial. even though you have scaled| that right back? but we have made it a ractical that right back? but we have made it a practical plan _ that right back? but we have made it a practical plan to — that right back? but we have made it a practical plan to invest _ that right back? but we have made it a practical plan to invest in _ a practical plan to invest in industries with a jobs bonus at the heart, so we know when we are investing in energy future we are getting the jobs for young people and creating a path into the door of those businesses for young people and it breaks my heart to hear of karen talk us about big being a skilled person not able to get a job, and i don't think we have done nearly enough to help people, there is vacancies out there and we have to make sure they are available to people where they are and help people where they are and help people get into those jobs, this is a skilled country with loads of vacancies, we have to put it right. david white. reform uk says it would, if it were in charge it would lower taxes dramatically, do you want to see that on wednesday? the we would increase the income tax threshold, — we would increase the income tax threshold, to— we would increase the income tax threshold, to £20,000, _ we would increase the income tax threshold, to £20,000, that - we would increase the income tax threshold, to £20,000, that is i we would increase the income tax i threshold, to £20,000, that is worth £1500 _ threshold, to £20,000, that is worth £1500 per-anurn _ threshold, to £20,000, that is worth £1500 per—anum. how— threshold, to £20,000, that is worth £1500 per-anum-_ threshold, to £20,000, that is worth £1500 per-anum. how much would that cost? we have — £1500 per-anum. how much would that cost? we have got _ £1500 per-anum. how much would that cost? we have got that _ £1500 per-anum. how much would that cost? we have got that here, _ £1500 per-anum. how much would that cost? we have got that here, i - £1500 per-anum. how much would that cost? we have got that here, i am - cost? we have got that here, i am the only one _ cost? we have got that here, i am the only one with _ cost? we have got that here, i am the only one with a _ cost? we have got that here, i am the only one with a fully _ cost? we have got that here, i am the only one with a fully costed i the only one with a fully costed manifesto _ the only one with a fully costed manifesto-— the only one with a fully costed manifesto. ., . ., _,, manifesto. how much would it cost? we have identified _ manifesto. how much would it cost? we have identified 1501e _ manifesto. how much would it cost? we have identified 1501e cost - we have identified 150le cost savings _ we have identified 150le cost savings. please _ we have identified 150le cost savings. please take - we have identified 150le cost savings. please take a - we have identified 150le cost savings. please take a look. i we have identified 150le cost. savings. please take a look. 150 billion, it savings. please take a look. billion, it didn't say that, so carry on, you think there is inefficiency savings to be made. in government? that was admitted by the chancellor— government? that was admitted by the chancellor in the _ chancellor in the telegraph yesterday _ chancellor in the telegraph yesterday-— chancellor in the telegraph esterda. ., ' :: , ., .. yesterday. not 150 billion worth. just back to _ yesterday. not 150 billion worth. just back to what _ yesterday. not 150 billion worth. just back to what the _ yesterday. not 150 billion worth. just back to what the auditor - yesterday. not 150 billion worth. | just back to what the auditor says specifically. — just back to what the auditor says specifically, this is _ just back to what the auditor says specifically, this is important. i. specifically, this is important. i know_ specifically, this is important. i know the — specifically, this is important. i know the area _ specifically, this is important. i know the area very, _ specifically, this is important. i know the area very, very - specifically, this is important. i know the area very, very well. i specifically, this is important. ii know the area very, very well. it specifically, this is important. i- know the area very, very well. it is tragic— know the area very, very well. it is tragic some — know the area very, very well. it is tragic some of— know the area very, very well. it is tragic some of the _ know the area very, very well. it is tragic some of the things - know the area very, very well. it is tragic some of the things i - know the area very, very well. it is tragic some of the things i have i tragic some of the things i have heard, — tragic some of the things i have heard, the _ tragic some of the things i have heard, the manufacturing, - tragic some of the things i have heard, the manufacturing, i- tragic some of the things i havei heard, the manufacturing, i now tragic some of the things i have - heard, the manufacturing, i now live in barnsley. — heard, the manufacturing, i now live in barnsley. i— heard, the manufacturing, i now live in barnsley, i talk— heard, the manufacturing, i now live in barnsley, i talk to _ heard, the manufacturing, i now live in barnsley, i talk to ex—miners - heard, the manufacturing, i now live in barnsley, i talk to ex—miners on l in barnsley, i talk to ex—miners on a daily— in barnsley, i talk to ex—miners on a daily basis— in barnsley, i talk to ex—miners on a daily basis some _ in barnsley, i talk to ex—miners on a daily basis some the _ in barnsley, i talk to ex—miners on a daily basis some the things- a daily basis some the things brendan— a daily basis some the things brendan mentioned - a daily basis some the things brendan mentioned there, i a daily basis some the things. brendan mentioned there, hang a daily basis some the things- brendan mentioned there, hang on this has— brendan mentioned there, hang on this has happened _ brendan mentioned there, hang on this has happened recently, - brendan mentioned there, hang on this has happened recently, in - brendan mentioned there, hang on this has happened recently, in fact| this has happened recently, in fact 14 years _ this has happened recently, in fact 14 years and the _ this has happened recently, in fact 14 years and the labour— this has happened recently, in fact. 14 years and the labour government before _ 14 years and the labour government before that, — 14 years and the labour government before that, who _ 14 years and the labour government before that, who actually— 14 years and the labour government before that, who actually closed - before that, who actually closed more _ before that, who actually closed more pits— before that, who actually closed more pits than— before that, who actually closed more pits than the _ before that, who actually closed more pits than the conservative| more pits than the conservative government, _ more pits than the conservative government, 50— more pits than the conservative government, so this _ more pits than the conservative government, so this has - more pits than the conservative i government, so this has happened more pits than the conservative - government, so this has happened for 20, 25_ government, so this has happened for 20, 25 years _ government, so this has happened for 20,25 years and the _ government, so this has happened for 20, 25 years and the manufacturing, l 20, 25 years and the manufacturing, the tractor. — 20, 25 years and the manufacturing, the tractor. i— 20, 25 years and the manufacturing, the tractor, i remember— 20, 25 years and the manufacturing, the tractor, i remember driving - 20, 25 years and the manufacturing, the tractor, i remember driving past| the tractor, i remember driving past the tractor, i remember driving past the tractor— the tractor, i remember driving past the tractor factory, _ the tractor, i remember driving past the tractor factory, british _ the tractor, i remember driving past the tractor factory, british steel - the tractor, i remember driving past the tractor factory, british steel i i the tractor factory, british steel i my father— the tractor factory, british steel i my father ran _ the tractor factory, british steel i my father ran a _ the tractor factory, british steel i my father ran a business - the tractor factory, british steel i i my father ran a business alongside british— my father ran a business alongside british steet — my father ran a business alongside british steel.— my father ran a business alongside british steel. what would you do to help people — british steel. what would you do to help people here? _ british steel. what would you do to help people here? it _ british steel. what would you do to help people here? it a _ british steel. what would you do to help people here? it a huge - british steel. what would you do to help people here? it a huge tax, i british steel. what would you do to | help people here? it a huge tax, we have to stimulate _ help people here? it a huge tax, we have to stimulate the _ help people here? it a huge tax, we have to stimulate the economy, - help people here? it a huge tax, we have to stimulate the economy, we| have to stimulate the economy, we have to stimulate the economy, we have to _ have to stimulate the economy, we have to cut — have to stimulate the economy, we have to cut personal _ have to stimulate the economy, we have to cut personal taxation, - have to stimulate the economy, we have to cut personal taxation, we l have to cut personal taxation, we have _ have to cut personal taxation, we have to _ have to cut personal taxation, we have to help _ have to cut personal taxation, we have to help businesses- have to cut personal taxation, we have to help businesses large - have to cut personal taxation, we have to help businesses large an| have to help businesses large an small~ _ have to help businesses large an small~ we — have to help businesses large an small. we will— have to help businesses large an small. we will talk _ have to help businesses large an small. we will talk about - have to help businesses large an. small. we will talk about levelling up small. we will talk about levelling up late _ small. we will talk about levelling up late her. — small. we will talk about levelling up late her. it— small. we will talk about levelling up late her, it has _ small. we will talk about levelling up late her, it has been _ small. we will talk about levelling up late her, it has been a - small. we will talk about levellingl up late her, it has been a disaster, what _ up late her, it has been a disaster, what has _ up late her, it has been a disaster, what has it— up late her, it has been a disaster, what has it done _ up late her, it has been a disaster, what has it done for— up late her, it has been a disaster, what has it done for the _ up late her, it has been a disaster, what has it done for the area - up late her, it has been a disaster, what has it done for the area little i what has it done for the area we will ask what has it done for the area will ask people later. let me what has it done for the area“ will ask people later. let me bring in christine jardine what would you like to see i in christine jardine what would you like to see .. ~' in christine jardine what would you like to see ., ~ .. in christine jardine what would you like to see ., ~ ., , like to see i would like to see him sa in i like to see i would like to see him saying i can't— like to see i would like to see him saying i can't give _ like to see i would like to see him saying i can't give you _ like to see i would like to see him saying i can't give you the - like to see i would like to see him saying i can't give you the budget| saying i can't give you the budget because rishi has gone to the palace to ask for a general election. we want change. we have heard about the problem, the cronyism, we have had seven years of cronyism and spending on pe, that you know we are hearing about fraud that has to be recovered, when, you know, it is just, it is too much for people, apprenticeships, we need something done about apprenticeship, we have lots of young people with terrific skills but they are not given alternative career paths, we need investment in fixing small businesses, sorting out the problem with business rate, and frankly, the only way i think we will get it is not anything jeremy hunt will say, unless it is we are having a general election. people want change, they want a different way and it is time to do it. bic my name is catherine, to do it. ok. my name is catherine, i am a retired teacher. as a country i am a retired teacher. as a country i think we are living, we are addicted to living beyond our means and if we were a family like that we would be pulling our bell belts in and concentrating on seven basic thing, food security, energy, housing, transport, and employment, health and education. and i think thatis health and education. and i think that is what the chancellor should be doing, he should be putting money into that, he should be fixing the systems that are broken at the moment. ~ ., systems that are broken at the moment. ~ . ., , .. ~' systems that are broken at the moment. ~ . ., i. ,, , systems that are broken at the moment. ~ . ., ,, , , moment. what do you think is broken? transort moment. what do you think is broken? transport certainly _ moment. what do you think is broken? transport certainly is _ moment. what do you think is broken? transport certainly is broken _ moment. what do you think is broken? transport certainly is broken at - moment. what do you think is broken? transport certainly is broken at the - transport certainly is broken at the moment, and get things back up to speed and also, to ensure affordability of some of the things for ordinary working families that can't afford them at the moment. let us bounce round. i _ can't afford them at the moment. let us bounce round. i am _ can't afford them at the moment. let us bounce round. i am ian _ can't afford them at the moment. let us bounce round. i am ian from - us bounce round. i am ian from gainsborough _ us bounce round. i am ian from gainsborough i _ us bounce round. i am ian from gainsborough i could _ us bounce round. i am ian from gainsborough i could who - us bounce round. i am ian from gainsborough i could who like i us bounce round. i am ian from| gainsborough i could who like to us bounce round. i am ian from - gainsborough i could who like to ask the conservative mp to do with the standing _ the conservative mp to do with the standing charges of gas and electric, _ standing charges of gas and electric, it is ridiculous. that is what you _ electric, it is ridiculous. that is what you pay. _ electric, it is ridiculous. that is what you pay. it _ electric, it is ridiculous. that is what you pay, it is _ electric, it is ridiculous. that is what you pay, it is like - electric, it is ridiculous. that is what you pay, it is like your. electric, it is ridiculous. that is| what you pay, it is like your line rental in a way, doesn't matter how much you use you have to pay that? exactly. in london it is probably 30 pence _ exactly. in london it is probably 30 pence a _ exactly. in london it is probably 30 pence a day— exactly. in london it is probably 30 pence a day cheaper than what it is herer _ pence a day cheaper than what it is here and — pence a day cheaper than what it is here and i— pence a day cheaper than what it is here, and i can't understand you know _ here, and i can't understand you know, surely, it should be across the country — know, surely, it should be across the country we should be paying the samer _ the country we should be paying the same why— the country we should be paying the same, why are they paying less than us, i same, why are they paying less than us i know— same, why are they paying less than us, i know that i will say the infrastructure, i used to work in the power— infrastructure, i used to work in the power station industry, it seems ridiculous— the power station industry, it seems ridiculous people who are struggling for money— ridiculous people who are struggling for money and they have to pay the standing _ for money and they have to pay the standing charge before they start paying _ standing charge before they start paying gas and electric. pass that microphone _ paying gas and electric. pass that microphone over. _ lam mark i am mark and i own a vehicle logistics — i am mark and i own a vehicle logistics company— i am mark and i own a vehicle logistics company and - i am mark and i own a vehicle logistics company and i - i am mark and i own a vehicle logistics company and i live i i am mark and i own a vehiclej logistics company and i live in doncaster~ _ logistics company and i live in doncaster. i've _ logistics company and i live in doncaster. i've lived - logistics company and i live in doncaster. i've lived in- logistics company and i live in doncaster. i've lived in my. logistics company and i live in. doncaster. i've lived in my house for 12 _ doncaster. i've lived in my house for 12 years — doncaster. i've lived in my house for 12 years in _ doncaster. i've lived in my house for 12 years in the _ doncaster. i've lived in my house for 12 years in the private - doncaster. i've lived in my house for 12 years in the private rentali for 12 years in the private rental sector— for 12 years in the private rental sector with _ for 12 years in the private rental sector with the _ for 12 years in the private rental sector with the cost _ for 12 years in the private rental sector with the cost of - for 12 years in the private rental sector with the cost of living - for 12 years in the private rentall sector with the cost of living and the cost — sector with the cost of living and the cost of — sector with the cost of living and the cost of gas _ sector with the cost of living and the cost of gas, electric- sector with the cost of living and the cost of gas, electric and - sector with the cost of living and the cost of gas, electric and all. the cost of gas, electric and all the cost of gas, electric and all the bills, — the cost of gas, electric and all the bills, i_ the cost of gas, electric and all the bills, i cannot _ the cost of gas, electric and all the bills, i cannot even - the cost of gas, electric and all the bills, i cannot even get - the cost of gas, electric and all the bills, i cannot even get to. the cost of gas, electric and all- the bills, i cannot even get to save the bills, i cannot even get to save the money— the bills, i cannot even get to save the money for— the bills, i cannot even get to save the money for a _ the bills, i cannot even get to save the money for a deposit _ the bills, i cannot even get to save the money for a deposit to - the bills, i cannot even get to save the money for a deposit to buy - the bills, i cannot even get to save the money for a deposit to buy my| the money for a deposit to buy my property — the money for a deposit to buy my property to— the money for a deposit to buy my property to have _ the money for a deposit to buy my property. to have the _ the money for a deposit to buy my property. to have the mortgage i the money for a deposit to buy my| property. to have the mortgage on the property— property. to have the mortgage on the property i— property. to have the mortgage on the property i have _ property. to have the mortgage on the property i have would - property. to have the mortgage on the property i have would be - property. to have the mortgage on i the property i have would be cheaper than the _ the property i have would be cheaper than the rent — the property i have would be cheaper than the rent i — the property i have would be cheaper than the rent i am _ the property i have would be cheaper than the rent i am paying _ the property i have would be cheaper than the rent i am paying now. - the property i have would be cheaper than the rent i am paying now. i- than the rent i am paying now. i have _ than the rent i am paying now. i have no— than the rent i am paying now. i have no rent arrears _ than the rent i am paying now. i have no rent arrears in 12 - than the rent i am paying now. i have no rent arrears in 12 years. i can quite — have no rent arrears in 12 years. i can quite clearly— have no rent arrears in 12 years. i can quite clearly afford _ have no rent arrears in 12 years. i can quite clearly afford my - have no rent arrears in 12 years. i can quite clearly afford my house| can quite clearly afford my house that i_ can quite clearly afford my house that i live — can quite clearly afford my house that i live in _ can quite clearly afford my house that i live in and _ can quite clearly afford my house that i live in and it— can quite clearly afford my house that i live in and it would - can quite clearly afford my house that i live in and it would be - that i live in and it would be cheaper _ that i live in and it would be cheaper and _ that i live in and it would be cheaper and beneficial- that i live in and it would be cheaper and beneficial for i that i live in and it would be i cheaper and beneficial for me that i live in and it would be - cheaper and beneficial for me to buy that house _ cheaper and beneficial for me to buy that house but — cheaper and beneficial for me to buy that house but i _ cheaper and beneficial for me to buy that house but i cannot— cheaper and beneficial for me to buy that house but i cannot afford - cheaper and beneficial for me to buy that house but i cannot afford to - that house but i cannot afford to rat that house but i cannot afford to get the — that house but i cannot afford to get the deposit _ that house but i cannot afford to get the deposit together. - that house but i cannot afford to get the deposit together. iiiitt�*ho i that house but i cannot afford to get the deposit together. who or what is responsible _ get the deposit together. who or what is responsible for— get the deposit together. who or what is responsible for the - get the deposit together. who or what is responsible for the fact i get the deposit together. who or l what is responsible for the fact you can't afford to get a mortgage? i think it's the cost of living. does| think it's the cost of living. does that mean _ think it's the cost of living. does that mean covid, _ think it's the cost of living. does that mean covid, the _ think it's the cost of living. does that mean covid, the ukraine i think it's the cost of living.“ that mean covid, the ukraine war, but policies? it’s that mean covid, the ukraine war, but policies?— but policies? it's a mixture. it's been a hail _ but policies? it's a mixture. it's been a hail storm _ but policies? it's a mixture. it's been a hail storm all— but policies? it's a mixture. it's been a hail storm all at - but policies? it's a mixture. it's been a hail storm all at once, i but policies? it's a mixture. it's i been a hail storm all at once, with the gas _ been a hail storm all at once, with the gas and — been a hail storm all at once, with the gas and electricity, _ been a hail storm all at once, with the gas and electricity, allegedly. the gas and electricity, allegedly caused _ the gas and electricity, allegedly caused by— the gas and electricity, allegedly caused by ukraine, _ the gas and electricity, allegedly caused by ukraine, covid, whichl caused by ukraine, covid, which caused — caused by ukraine, covid, which caused people _ caused by ukraine, covid, which caused people to _ caused by ukraine, covid, which caused people to lose _ caused by ukraine, covid, which caused people to lose their - caused by ukraine, covid, which caused people to lose theirjobsj caused by ukraine, covid, which. caused people to lose theirjobs and the interest— caused people to lose theirjobs and the interest rates— caused people to lose theirjobs and the interest rates go— caused people to lose theirjobs and the interest rates go up. _ caused people to lose theirjobs and the interest rates go up. it's - caused people to lose theirjobs and the interest rates go up. it's a - the interest rates go up. it's a snowball— the interest rates go up. it's a snowball effect— the interest rates go up. it's a snowball effect of— the interest rates go up. it's a snowball effect of everything i the interest rates go up. it's a i snowball effect of everything at once _ snowball effect of everything at once he — snowball effect of everything at once. y .. snowball effect of everything at once. ,. . snowball effect of everything at once. . ., . ., once. do you want to respond? nation transort once. do you want to respond? nation transport is — once. do you want to respond? nation transport is important _ once. do you want to respond? nation transport is important and _ once. do you want to respond? nation transport is important and one - once. do you want to respond? nation transport is important and one of- transport is important and one of the great things about the change to the great things about the change to the plans with hs2 is that money can be redistributed. irate the plans with h52 is that money can be redistributed.— be redistributed. we had original cabinet last _ be redistributed. we had original cabinet last week _ be redistributed. we had original cabinet last week and _ be redistributed. we had original cabinet last week and there - be redistributed. we had original| cabinet last week and there were plans— cabinet last week and there were plans and — cabinet last week and there were plans and out for that in my own constituency, a new train line is opening — constituency, a new train line is opening the with buses, we have the two pad _ opening the with buses, we have the two pad bus— opening the with buses, we have the two pad bus fares and lots of other things _ two pad bus fares and lots of other things |s— two pad bus fares and lots of other thints_ , ., , two pad bus fares and lots of other thins. . . , ., two pad bus fares and lots of other thints, , . , ., ., things. is it actually going to ha--en? things. is it actually going to happen? it's _ things. is it actually going to happen? it's already - things. is it actually going to i happen? it's already happening things. is it actually going to - happen? it's already happening to an extent. happen? it's already happening to an extent- there — happen? it's already happening to an extent. there is _ happen? it's already happening to an extent. there is more _ happen? it's already happening to an extent. there is more money - happen? it's already happening to an extent. there is more money for - extent. there is more money for areas _ extent. there is more money for areas like — extent. there is more money for areas like ours step standing charges _ areas like ours step standing charges, there is clearly an issue with that — charges, there is clearly an issue with that and we want to keep people's— with that and we want to keep people's bills down and we've tried to help _ people's bills down and we've tried to help government support but global— to help government support but global factors have gored some issues — global factors have gored some issues but that is why we are looking — issues but that is why we are looking at a more pragmatic approach to net— looking at a more pragmatic approach to not zero _ looking at a more pragmatic approach to not zero i— looking at a more pragmatic approach to net zero. i know people have been concerned _ to net zero. i know people have been concerned with that. the gentleman with housing, i know how important it is to _ with housing, i know how important it is to many— with housing, i know how important it is to many to own their own home, i it is to many to own their own home, i was _ it is to many to own their own home, i was put _ it is to many to own their own home, i was put up — it is to many to own their own home, i was put up with it being important to me _ i was put up with it being important to me and — i was put up with it being important to me and it— i was put up with it being important to me and it made me a conservative. it's to me and it made me a conservative. it's a _ to me and it made me a conservative. it's a great _ to me and it made me a conservative. it's a great dream of margaret thatcher~ _ it's a great dream of margaret thatcher. lots of people bought their— thatcher. lots of people bought their council taxes in my area. you have never — their council taxes in my area. you have never met _ their council taxes in my area. you have never met your _ their council taxes in my area. mt, have never met your target year since 2010 step i have never met your target year since 2010 step— have never met your target year since 2010 step i think some of the ”lannin since 2010 step i think some of the planning laws _ since 2010 step i think some of the planning laws need _ since 2010 step i think some of the planning laws need changing - since 2010 step i think some of the planning laws need changing to - since 2010 step i think some of the planning laws need changing to tip| since 2010 step i think some of the | planning laws need changing to tip i think some of the mortgage rules, there _ think some of the mortgage rules, there are people who can clearly afford _ there are people who can clearly afford a — there are people who can clearly afford a mortgage with the amount of rent they— afford a mortgage with the amount of rent they are paying but they are being _ rent they are paying but they are being taken out of this like mortgage prisoners who are prevented from having cheap mortgages. bn the from having cheap mortgages. on the transort from having cheap mortgages. on the transport issuer _ from having cheap mortgages. on the transport issue, h52 _ from having cheap mortgages. on the transport issue, h52 was _ from having cheap mortgages. on the transport issue, h52 was promised i transport issue, hs2 was promised for a long time, had cross—party agreement, clearly there were big challenges in the delivery but i just feel completely lost faith in our ability to get big transport schemes like that under this government done and we need a much more pragmatic approach, and it comes back tojobs, because one thing that holds us back in transport is having people to work in what is a really good industry, with greatjobs in transport. we need to make sure that young people especially have access, which is one reason... if especially have access, which is one reason... ,. especially have access, which is one reason... i. , _. reason... if you become the next government. _ reason... if you become the next government, you're _ reason... if you become the next government, you're not - reason... if you become the nextl government, you're not promising reason... if you become the next - government, you're not promising an extra for transport. ida. government, you're not promising an extra for transport.— extra for transport. no, but we have a [an to extra for transport. no, but we have a plan to make _ extra for transport. no, but we have a plan to make sure _ extra for transport. no, but we have a plan to make sure the _ a plan to make sure the apprenticeship scheme actually works to build that path for young people into those good jobs. when you put on a train at the moment, if its to late, quite often it's because they are lacking staff. making the industry work better, helping people get to work, it's a virtuous circle if we can get apprenticeships sorted out. i want to say to the gentleman, who describes the problem well, the cost of living crisis is exacerbating his housing situation, which is why we have got to make sure that people are able to do better. it's my, help make sure our public services are there for people, to help them get into good jobs and be supported, which will mean, as we build more houses, people can get access to them. we are going to talk about public services next. there's a lot to get through. 0pinion polls show that, alongside the economy, the state of the nhs is one of the most important issues to voters. so is it to some of the people here in yorkshire and the humber? what is people's experience of the nhs and other services? we have some people who work in the nhs. welcome, hello. its, work in the nhs. welcome, hello. a clinical pharmacist and i work in lincolnshire. _ clinical pharmacist and i work in lincolnshire. obviously, - clinical pharmacist and i work in lincolnshire. obviously, as- clinical pharmacist and i work in lincolnshire. obviously, as a i lincolnshire. obviously, as a pharmacist _ lincolnshire. obviously, as a pharmacist i_ lincolnshire. obviously, as a pharmacist. i would - lincolnshire. obviously, as a pharmacist. i would want - lincolnshire. obviously, as a pharmacist. i would want to| lincolnshire. obviously, as a - pharmacist. i would want to look at the nhs _ pharmacist. i would want to look at the nhs funding— pharmacist. i would want to look at the nhs funding and _ pharmacist. i would want to look at the nhs funding and make - pharmacist. i would want to look at the nhs funding and make sure - pharmacist. i would want to look atl the nhs funding and make sure that on wednesday — the nhs funding and make sure that on wednesday that _ the nhs funding and make sure that on wednesday that is _ the nhs funding and make sure that on wednesday that is fairly - on wednesday that is fairly represented _ on wednesday that is fairly represented and _ on wednesday that is fairly represented and i'd - on wednesday that is fairly . represented and i'd encourage on wednesday that is fairly - represented and i'd encourage the chancellor— represented and i'd encourage the chancellor to — represented and i'd encourage the chancellor to really— represented and i'd encourage the chancellor to really look— represented and i'd encourage the chancellor to really look at - represented and i'd encourage the chancellor to really look at publici chancellor to really look at public services, — chancellor to really look at public services, especially _ chancellor to really look at public services, especially the - chancellor to really look at public services, especially the nhs, - chancellor to really look at public| services, especially the nhs, and make _ services, especially the nhs, and make sure — services, especially the nhs, and make sure funding _ services, especially the nhs, and make sure funding is— services, especially the nhs, and make sure funding is therefore i services, especially the nhs, and i make sure funding is therefore that. since _ make sure funding is therefore that. since 2010, — make sure funding is therefore that. since 2010, the _ make sure funding is therefore that. since 2010, the nhs— make sure funding is therefore that. since 2010, the nhs has— make sure funding is therefore that. since 2010, the nhs has received i make sure funding is therefore that. since 2010, the nhs has received ai since 2010, the nhs has received a real terms increase in spending every year. real terms increase in spending every year-— real terms increase in spending eve ear. , . . �*, every year. absolutely, and that's one into every year. absolutely, and that's gone into upskilling _ every year. absolutely, and that's gone into upskilling the _ every year. absolutely, and that's gone into upskilling the current i gone into upskilling the current workforce _ gone into upskilling the current workforce, like _ gone into upskilling the current workforce, like myself. - gone into upskilling the current workforce, like myself. i- gone into upskilling the current workforce, like myself. iwas i gone into upskilling the current workforce, like myself. iwas a| workforce, like myself. iwas a community— workforce, like myself. iwas a community pharmacist- workforce, like myself. iwas a community pharmacist and - workforce, like myself. iwas a community pharmacist and i. workforce, like myself. i was a - community pharmacist and i decided to be a clinical— community pharmacist and i decided to be a clinical pharmacist, - community pharmacist and i decided to be a clinical pharmacist, so - to be a clinical pharmacist, so that's— to be a clinical pharmacist, so that's fantastic. _ to be a clinical pharmacist, so that's fantastic. there - to be a clinical pharmacist, so that's fantastic. there is - to be a clinical pharmacist, so that's fantastic. there is thatl that's fantastic. there is that opportunity— that's fantastic. there is that opportunity across— that's fantastic. there is that opportunity across the - that's fantastic. there is that opportunity across the board | that's fantastic. there is that. opportunity across the board for that's fantastic. there is that - opportunity across the board for all other— opportunity across the board for all other health — opportunity across the board for all other health care _ opportunity across the board for all other health care professionals - opportunity across the board for all other health care professionals at i other health care professionals at welford _ other health care professionals at welford up— other health care professionals at welford up but— other health care professionals at welford up but for— other health care professionals at welford up but for myself- other health care professionals at welford up but for myself as - other health care professionals at| welford up but for myself as well, personally — welford up but for myself as well, personally as _ welford up but for myself as well, personally as well, _ welford up but for myself as well, personally as well, last _ welford up but for myself as well, personally as well, last year, - personally as well, last year, unfortunately, _ personally as well, last year, unfortunately, i— personally as well, last year, unfortunately, i lost - personally as well, last year, unfortunately, i lost my- personally as well, last year, - unfortunately, i lost my husband after _ unfortunately, i lost my husband after a _ unfortunately, i lost my husband after a two — unfortunately, i lost my husband after a two and _ unfortunately, i lost my husband after a two and a _ unfortunately, i lost my husband after a two and a half _ unfortunately, i lost my husband after a two and a half month - unfortunately, i lost my husband i after a two and a half month battle with cancer— after a two and a half month battle with cancer and _ after a two and a half month battle with cancerand i— after a two and a half month battle with cancer and i can _ after a two and a half month battle with cancer and i can see _ after a two and a half month battle with cancer and i can see from - after a two and a half month battle with cancer and i can see from the| with cancer and i can see from the other— with cancer and i can see from the other side — with cancer and i can see from the other side the _ with cancer and i can see from the other side the pressure _ with cancer and i can see from the other side the pressure on- with cancer and i can see from the other side the pressure on the - with cancer and i can see from the l other side the pressure on the nhs, being _ other side the pressure on the nhs, being on— other side the pressure on the nhs, being on the — other side the pressure on the nhs, being on the ward _ other side the pressure on the nhs, being on the ward weekly, - other side the pressure on the nhs, being on the ward weekly, in- other side the pressure on the nhs, being on the ward weekly, in going i being on the ward weekly, in going in being on the ward weekly, in going ihand— being on the ward weekly, in going inand out, — being on the ward weekly, in going inand out, and— being on the ward weekly, in going in and out, and they— being on the ward weekly, in going in and out, and they are _ being on the ward weekly, in going in and out, and they are working i being on the ward weekly, in going | in and out, and they are working so hard _ in and out, and they are working so hard but _ in and out, and they are working so hard but there _ in and out, and they are working so hard but there is— in and out, and they are working so hard but there is such _ in and out, and they are working so hard but there is such pressure - in and out, and they are working so hard but there is such pressure oni hard but there is such pressure on demand, — hard but there is such pressure on demand, because _ hard but there is such pressure on demand, because there _ hard but there is such pressure on demand, because there is - hard but there is such pressure on demand, because there is not - hard but there is such pressure on - demand, because there is not enough workforce _ demand, because there is not enough workforce and — demand, because there is not enough workforce and we _ demand, because there is not enough workforce and we need _ demand, because there is not enough workforce and we need to _ demand, because there is not enough workforce and we need to get - demand, because there is not enough workforce and we need to get peoplel workforce and we need to get people trained _ workforce and we need to get people trained we — workforce and we need to get people trained. we need— workforce and we need to get people trained. we need to _ workforce and we need to get people trained. we need to retain— workforce and we need to get people trained. we need to retain the - workforce and we need to get people trained. we need to retain the staff. trained. we need to retain the staff we have _ trained. we need to retain the staff we have there — trained. we need to retain the staff we have there already. _ trained. we need to retain the staff we have there already. and - trained. we need to retain the staff we have there already. and i- trained. we need to retain the staff we have there already. and i couldi we have there already. and i could really— we have there already. and i could really see — we have there already. and i could really see how _ we have there already. and i could really see how hard _ we have there already. and i could really see how hard they— we have there already. and i could really see how hard they were - we have there already. and i could i really see how hard they were trying but it's _ really see how hard they were trying but it'si'ust — really see how hard they were trying but it's just difficult. _ really see how hard they were trying but it'sjust difficult. the _ really see how hard they were trying but it's just difficult. the funding - but it'sjust difficult. the funding would _ but it'sjust difficult. the funding would definitely— but it'sjust difficult. the funding would definitely help. _ but it'sjust difficult. the funding would definitely help. i- but it'sjust difficult. the funding would definitely help. i bin - but it'sjust difficult. the funding would definitely help. i am really sor to would definitely help. i am really sorry to hear— would definitely help. i am really sorry to hear about _ would definitely help. i am really sorry to hear about your - would definitely help. i am really| sorry to hear about your husband. thank you for sharing that with us. thank you for sharing that with us. thank you for telling us about your own experience as a pharmacist. hello, sir. i a own experience as a pharmacist. hello, sir-— hello, sir. i a gp. iwork in a rural practice. _ hello, sir. i a gp. iwork in a rural practice. in _ hello, sir. i a gp. iwork in a rural practice. in the - hello, sir. i a gp. iwork in a rural practice. in the last - hello, sir. i a gp. iwork in a rural practice. in the last 15. rural practice. in the last 15 years, _ rural practice. in the last 15 years, i_ rural practice. in the last 15 years, i have _ rural practice. in the last 15 years, i have now- rural practice. in the last 15 years, i have now seen- rural practice. in the last 15- years, i have now seen patients who constantly— years, i have now seen patients who constantly keep _ years, i have now seen patients who constantly keep coming _ years, i have now seen patients who constantly keep coming to _ years, i have now seen patients who constantly keep coming to us - years, i have now seen patients who. constantly keep coming to us because they are _ constantly keep coming to us because they are waiting — constantly keep coming to us because they are waiting for— constantly keep coming to us because they are waiting for a _ constantly keep coming to us because they are waiting for a long _ constantly keep coming to us because they are waiting for a long time - constantly keep coming to us because they are waiting for a long time to- they are waiting for a long time to id they are waiting for a long time to go to— they are waiting for a long time to go to hospital— they are waiting for a long time to go to hospital to— they are waiting for a long time to go to hospital to see _ they are waiting for a long time to go to hospital to see specialists. i go to hospital to see specialists. when _ go to hospital to see specialists. when they— go to hospital to see specialists. when they are _ go to hospital to see specialists. when they are waiting, - go to hospital to see specialists. when they are waiting, they - go to hospital to see specialists. when they are waiting, they will| go to hospital to see specialists. i when they are waiting, they will hit crisis _ when they are waiting, they will hit crisis point — when they are waiting, they will hit crisis point where _ when they are waiting, they will hit crisis point where they— when they are waiting, they will hit crisis point where they need - crisis point where they need emergency— crisis point where they need emergency help, _ crisis point where they need emergency help, either- crisis point where they needl emergency help, either from crisis point where they need - emergency help, either from us in primary— emergency help, either from us in primary care — emergency help, either from us in primary care or— emergency help, either from us in primary care or from _ emergency help, either from us in primary care or from a&e, - emergency help, either from us in primary care or from a&e, and - primary care or from a&e, and certainly— primary care or from a&e, and certainly that, _ primary care or from a&e, and certainly that, if— primary care or from a&e, and certainly that, if you _ primary care or from a&e, and certainly that, if you don't - primary care or from a&e, andl certainly that, if you don't have the right— certainly that, if you don't have the right funding _ certainly that, if you don't have the right funding support, - certainly that, if you don't have the right funding support, all. certainly that, if you don't have i the right funding support, all they ret the right funding support, all they get is _ the right funding support, all they get is a _ the right funding support, all they get is a temporary— the right funding support, all they get is a temporary sticking - the right funding support, all theyj get is a temporary sticking plaster and they— get is a temporary sticking plaster and they come _ get is a temporary sticking plaster and they come out _ get is a temporary sticking plaster and they come out and _ get is a temporary sticking plaster and they come out and go - get is a temporary sticking plaster and they come out and go back. get is a temporary sticking plasterj and they come out and go back in. you may— and they come out and go back in. you may have _ and they come out and go back in. you may have heard _ and they come out and go back in. you may have heard the _ and they come out and go back in. | you may have heard the chancellor stay at the weekend, it's not all about funding, in terms at the nhs, it's about the way the money is spent. do you see that as well or not? , , , �* , not? definitely, but king's fund did some research _ not? definitely, but king's fund did some research and the _ not? definitely, but king's fund did some research and the nhs is - some research and the nhs is very efficient _ some research and the nhs is very efficient you — some research and the nhs is very efficient. you cannot— some research and the nhs is very efficient. you cannot buy— some research and the nhs is very efficient. you cannot buy things. efficient. you cannot buy things which _ efficient. you cannot buy things which cost _ efficient. you cannot buy things which cost more _ efficient. you cannot buy things which cost more now, - efficient. you cannot buy things which cost more now, so- efficient. you cannot buy things which cost more now, so new. efficient. you cannot buy things- which cost more now, so new drugs, new medication, _ which cost more now, so new drugs, new medication, research _ which cost more now, so new drugs, new medication, research done - which cost more now, so new drugs, i new medication, research done needs more _ new medication, research done needs more funds _ new medication, research done needs more funds they— new medication, research done needs more funds. they keep _ new medication, research done needs more funds. they keep promising - new medication, research done needs more funds. they keep promising the| more funds. they keep promising the public— more funds. they keep promising the public that— more funds. they keep promising the public that they — more funds. they keep promising the public that they deserve _ more funds. they keep promising the public that they deserve the - more funds. they keep promising the public that they deserve the best - public that they deserve the best care but— public that they deserve the best care but at— public that they deserve the best care but at the _ public that they deserve the best care but at the minute, - public that they deserve the best care but at the minute, i- public that they deserve the best care but at the minute, i am - care but at the minute, i am practising _ care but at the minute, i am practising what _ care but at the minute, i am practising what will- care but at the minute, i am practising what will be - care but at the minute, i am| practising what will be called care but at the minute, i am - practising what will be called the best affordable _ practising what will be called the best affordable care, _ practising what will be called the best affordable care, not - practising what will be called the best affordable care, not best i practising what will be called the i best affordable care, not best care. thank _ best affordable care, not best care. thank christine _ best affordable care, not best care. thank christine charting, _ best affordable care, not best care. thank christine charting, the - best affordable care, not best care. thank christine charting, the lib. thank christine charting, the lib dems— thank christine charting, the lib dems last — thank christine charting, the lib dems last year _ thank christine charting, the lib dems last year dropped - thank christine charting, the lib dems last year dropped their. thank christine charting, the lib. dems last year dropped their plans to add _ dems last year dropped their plans to add a _ dems last year dropped their plans to add a penny— dems last year dropped their plans to add a penny on _ dems last year dropped their plans to add a penny on income - dems last year dropped their plans to add a penny on income tax, - dems last year dropped their plans i to add a penny on income tax, which you said _ to add a penny on income tax, which you said would — to add a penny on income tax, which you said would go _ to add a penny on income tax, which you said would go to _ to add a penny on income tax, which you said would go to the _ to add a penny on income tax, which you said would go to the nhs. - to add a penny on income tax, which you said would go to the nhs. whyfl you said would go to the nhs. why? because tim — you said would go to the nhs. why? because tim krul_ you said would go to the nhs. why? because tim krul the _ you said would go to the nhs. why? because tim krul the nhs _ you said would go to the nhs.“ because tim krul the nhs does need investment. we want to see the government reversing the cuts, because it's been a real terms budget cut. a new policy will be unveiled before the election and we want to see investment in the nhs. will you bring back the 1p on income tax? brute will you bring back the 1p on income tax? ~ ., will you bring back the 1p on income tax? ~ . . , ., tax? we will wait and see what the chancellor announced _ tax? we will wait and see what the chancellor announced on _ tax? we will wait and see what the i chancellor announced on wednesday because it's vital there is a reversal of the cut we have seen in real terms to the nhs budget of about £1.3 billion. what we want to see happen is reversing things like the cut of the surcharges to the big banks. they should be paying more. the banking rates, the cuts there should be reversed. they have been cut since 2016. that is how we would find the money to invest in the nhs. what about the 1p on income tax? brute what about the 1p on income tax? - thought there was a better way of doing it, not putting more tax on people, but things like the windfall tax, if we had a proper windfall tax it would raise £15 billion over five years. reversing the cuts to the big bank bonuses would raise £3 billion in one yearand bank bonuses would raise £3 billion in one year and 18 billion over five years. that's where the money needs to come from to invest in the nhs. let me bring in david white of reform uk. what would reform uk to the waiting list? brute reform uk. what would reform uk to the waiting list?— the waiting list? we have promised to et the waiting list? we have promised to get waiting _ the waiting list? we have promised to get waiting lists _ the waiting list? we have promised to get waiting lists down _ the waiting list? we have promised to get waiting lists down to - the waiting list? we have promised to get waiting lists down to zero i to get waiting lists down to zero within— to get waiting lists down to zero within two years.— within two years. really? tell me how that's _ within two years. really? tell me how that's doable? _ within two years. really? tell me how that's doable? if _ within two years. really? tell me how that's doable? if you - within two years. really? tell me how that's doable? if you look i within two years. really? tell me how that's doable? if you look at | how that's doable? if you look at the performance _ how that's doable? if you look at the performance of _ how that's doable? if you look at the performance of nhs - how that's doable? if you look at i the performance of nhs hospitals, there _ the performance of nhs hospitals, there is— the performance of nhs hospitals, there is a — the performance of nhs hospitals, there is a golf compared to private hospitals — there is a golf compared to private hospitals i— there is a golf compared to private hospitals. i read a report last year that talked — hospitals. i read a report last year that talked about the management of the nhs, _ that talked about the management of the nhs, the huge inefficiencies. that was— the nhs, the huge inefficiencies. that was written in the early 19905 by sir— that was written in the early 19905 by sirjohn— that was written in the early 19905 by sirjohn hodge jones and nothing was changed. in real terms, the nhs has received — was changed. in real terms, the nhs has received more funding than ever before _ has received more funding than ever before. ., has received more funding than ever before. . ., . before. there are now about 7.7 million cases _ before. there are now about 7.7 million cases on _ before. there are now about 7.7 million cases on the _ before. there are now about 7.7 million cases on the waiting - before. there are now about 7.7| million cases on the waiting list. how would you get that to zero in two years? bi; how would you get that to zero in two years?— two years? by introducing power sector competition, _ two years? by introducing power sector competition, giving - two years? by introducing power. sector competition, giving patients a voucher— sector competition, giving patients a voucher scheme whereby, if they can't _ a voucher scheme whereby, if they can't see _ a voucher scheme whereby, if they can't see a — a voucher scheme whereby, if they can't see a gp in three days, go to a private _ can't see a gp in three days, go to a private gp~ — can't see a gp in three days, go to a private gp. what i will say as well, _ a private gp. what i will say as well, because you talk about the experience of the nhs, they literally— experience of the nhs, they literally saved my life for five years — literally saved my life for five years ago and the service and attention— years ago and the service and attention i got was absolutely exemplary, so there is a huge personal— exemplary, so there is a huge personal debt there. but i still don't — personal debt there. but i still don't think a lot of the figures bandied — don't think a lot of the figures bandied about are accurate. we need much _ bandied about are accurate. we need much more _ bandied about are accurate. we need much more efficiency within the nhs, five turnaround for patient care. do ou five turnaround for patient care. you have a five turnaround for patient care. idif,�* you have a figure for how much it would cost to get the nhs there over two years? it’s would cost to get the nhs there over two ears? �* , ., would cost to get the nhs there over two ears? �* , . ., would cost to get the nhs there over two ears? �*, . ., two years? it's all in our contract. its two years? it's all in our contract. its 30 billion _ two years? it's all in our contract. its 30 billion over _ two years? it's all in our contract. its 30 billion over two _ two years? it's all in our contract. its 30 billion over two years, - two years? it's all in our contract. its 30 billion over two years, and | its 30 billion over two years, and there is a technical white of you raising that money, but it's on the website if you are interested. i’m website if you are interested. i'm from sheffield that i run the largest— from sheffield that i run the largest network _ from sheffield that i run the largest network of- from sheffield that i run the largest network of baby - from sheffield that i run the l largest network of baby banks from sheffield that i run the - largest network of baby banks in the uk and _ largest network of baby banks in the uk and i_ largest network of baby banks in the uk and i want — largest network of baby banks in the uk and i want to— largest network of baby banks in the uk and i want to know— largest network of baby banks in the uk and i want to know how- largest network of baby banks in the uk and i want to know how you - largest network of baby banks in the uk and i want to know how you are i uk and i want to know how you are going _ uk and i want to know how you are going to _ uk and i want to know how you are going to retain— uk and i want to know how you are going to retain nhs— uk and i want to know how you are going to retain nhs staff. - uk and i want to know how you are going to retain nhs staff. i- going to retain nhs staff. i work with midwives _ going to retain nhs staff. i work with midwives and _ going to retain nhs staff. i work with midwives and health - going to retain nhs staff. i worki with midwives and health visitors and local— with midwives and health visitors and local authority _ with midwives and health visitors and local authority workers. - with midwives and health visitorsj and local authority workers. they are so _ and local authority workers. they are so dedicated _ and local authority workers. they are so dedicated to _ and local authority workers. they are so dedicated to what - and local authority workers. they are so dedicated to what they. and local authority workers. they| are so dedicated to what they do. and to _ are so dedicated to what they do. and to providing _ are so dedicated to what they do. and to providing the _ are so dedicated to what they do. and to providing the best- are so dedicated to what they do. and to providing the best for- are so dedicated to what they do. and to providing the best for the| and to providing the best for the families— and to providing the best for the families they _ and to providing the best for the families they support. _ and to providing the best for the families they support. but - and to providing the best for the families they support. but they. and to providing the best for the . families they support. but they are so overworked. _ families they support. but they are so overworked. we _ families they support. but they are so overworked. we have _ families they support. but they are so overworked. we have midwives| so overworked. we have midwives collecting — so overworked. we have midwives collecting from _ so overworked. we have midwives collecting from us _ so overworked. we have midwives collecting from us on _ so overworked. we have midwives collecting from us on their - so overworked. we have midwives collecting from us on their days i so overworked. we have midwives| collecting from us on their days off because _ collecting from us on their days off because they — collecting from us on their days off because they want _ collecting from us on their days off because they want to _ collecting from us on their days off because they want to do _ collecting from us on their days off because they want to do their - collecting from us on their days off because they want to do their best| because they want to do their best for the _ because they want to do their best for the families— because they want to do their best for the families and _ because they want to do their best for the families and i— because they want to do their best for the families and i don't- because they want to do their best for the families and i don't know. for the families and i don't know how we — for the families and i don't know how we are _ for the families and i don't know how we are going _ for the families and i don't know how we are going to _ for the families and i don't know how we are going to keep- for the families and i don't knowi how we are going to keep going. for the families and i don't know- how we are going to keep going. we are already— how we are going to keep going. we are already seeing _ how we are going to keep going. we are already seeing the _ how we are going to keep going. we are already seeing the health - are already seeing the health support— are already seeing the health support fund _ are already seeing the health support fund being _ are already seeing the health support fund being cut, - are already seeing the health . support fund being cut, holiday hunger— support fund being cut, holiday hunger being _ support fund being cut, holiday hunger being cut, _ support fund being cut, holiday hunger being cut, i— support fund being cut, holiday hunger being cut, i am - support fund being cut, holiday hunger being cut, i am scared. support fund being cut, holiday- hunger being cut, i am scared what the referral— hunger being cut, i am scared what the referral rates _ hunger being cut, i am scared what the referral rates in— hunger being cut, i am scared what the referral rates in my— the referral rates in my organisation _ the referral rates in my organisation are - the referral rates in my organisation are going i the referral rates in my. organisation are going to the referral rates in my- organisation are going to rise to later— organisation are going to rise to later this — organisation are going to rise to later this year _ organisation are going to rise to later this year and _ organisation are going to rise to later this year and how- organisation are going to rise to later this year and how the - organisation are going to rise to later this year and how the nhs| organisation are going to rise to l later this year and how the nhs is going _ later this year and how the nhs is going to _ later this year and how the nhs is going to cope _ later this year and how the nhs is going to cope hithe— later this year and how the nhs is going to cone-— later this year and how the nhs is going to cope-— later this year and how the nhs is ua-ointocoe.~ , ., ~ . going to cope. why do you think that our going to cope. why do you think that your referral — going to cope. why do you think that your referral rates _ going to cope. why do you think that your referral rates are _ going to cope. why do you think that your referral rates are going - going to cope. why do you think that your referral rates are going to - going to cope. why do you think that your referral rates are going to go i your referral rates are going to go up? your referral rates are going to go u . ? �* . ., , , your referral rates are going to go up? because they support isn't there for families to _ up? because they support isn't there for families to one _ up? because they support isn't there for families to one in _ up? because they support isn't there for families to one in 100 _ up? because they support isn't there for families to one in 100 babies - for families to one in 100 babies born— for families to one in 100 babies born in— for families to one in 100 babies born in 2022— for families to one in 100 babies born in 2022 received _ for families to one in 100 babies born in 2022 received a - for families to one in 100 babies born in 2022 received a moses l for families to one in 100 babies- born in 2022 received a moses basket from one _ born in 2022 received a moses basket from one of— born in 2022 received a moses basket from one of my— born in 2022 received a moses basket from one of my sentence, _ born in 2022 received a moses basket from one of my sentence, not - born in 2022 received a moses basket from one of my sentence, not the - from one of my sentence, not the baby— from one of my sentence, not the baby banks — from one of my sentence, not the baby banks around _ from one of my sentence, not the baby banks around the _ from one of my sentence, not the baby banks around the uk. - from one of my sentence, not the baby banks around the uk. what. from one of my sentence, not the baby banks around the uk. what do ou think baby banks around the uk. what do you think about _ baby banks around the uk. what do you think about the _ baby banks around the uk. what do you think about the fact _ baby banks around the uk. what do you think about the fact that - baby banks around the uk. what do you think about the fact that those l you think about the fact that those are not figures? it’s you think about the fact that those are not figures?— are not figures? it's horrendous. the demand _ are not figures? it's horrendous. the demand have _ are not figures? it's horrendous. the demand have never- are not figures? it's horrendous. the demand have never been - are not figures? it's horrendous. - the demand have never been higher than it— the demand have never been higher than it is— the demand have never been higher than it is now — the demand have never been higher than it is now. families— the demand have never been higher than it is now. families are - than it is now. families are struggling _ than it is now. families are struggling and _ than it is now. families are struggling and they - than it is now. families are struggling and they need . than it is now. families are - struggling and they need support. i hear horror— struggling and they need support. i hear horror stories _ struggling and they need support. i hear horror stories of _ hear horror stories of eight—week—old - hear horror stories of eight—week—old babyi hear horror stories of . eight—week—old baby is hear horror stories of _ eight—week—old baby is sleeping in bouncy— eight—week—old baby is sleeping in bouncy chairs, _ eight—week—old baby is sleeping in bouncy chairs, two—year—old - eight—week—old baby is sleeping in. bouncy chairs, two—year—old sleeping in valves _ bouncy chairs, two—year—old sleeping in valves because _ bouncy chairs, two—year—old sleeping in valves because families _ bouncy chairs, two—year—old sleeping in valves because families can - bouncy chairs, two—year—old sleeping in valves because families can get - in valves because families can get the support— in valves because families can get the support they— in valves because families can get the support they need. _ in valves because families can get the support they need. —— - in valves because families can get. the support they need. —— sleeping in bathurst~ — the support they need. —— sleeping in bathurst. it's— the support they need. —— sleeping in bathurst. it's horrendous- the support they need. —— sleeping in bathurst. it's horrendous and - the support they need. —— sleeping in bathurst. it's horrendous and we do all— in bathurst. it's horrendous and we do all we _ in bathurst. it's horrendous and we do all we can— in bathurst. it's horrendous and we do all we can to— in bathurst. it's horrendous and we do all we can to ensure _ in bathurst. it's horrendous and we do all we can to ensure every- in bathurst. it's horrendous and we do all we can to ensure every child | do all we can to ensure every child has to— do all we can to ensure every child has to sleep. — do all we can to ensure every child has to sleep. to _ do all we can to ensure every child has to sleep, to sleep, _ do all we can to ensure every child has to sleep, to sleep, to- do all we can to ensure every child has to sleep, to sleep, to make i do all we can to ensure every child . has to sleep, to sleep, to make sure families— has to sleep, to sleep, to make sure families don't — has to sleep, to sleep, to make sure families don't have _ has to sleep, to sleep, to make sure families don't have to _ has to sleep, to sleep, to make sure families don't have to choose - families don't have to choose between _ families don't have to choose between food _ families don't have to choose between food and _ families don't have to choose between food and heat - families don't have to choose between food and heat and l families don't have to choose - between food and heat and clothing and school — between food and heat and clothing and school shoes, _ between food and heat and clothing and school shoes, but— between food and heat and clothing and school shoes, but we _ between food and heat and clothing and school shoes, but we get- between food and heat and clothing and school shoes, but we get no. and school shoes, but we get no government— and school shoes, but we get no government funding. _ and school shoes, but we get no government funding. to - and school shoes, but we get no government funding. to source i and school shoes, but we get no. government funding. to source that money _ government funding. to source that money my— government funding. to source that money. my sheffield _ government funding. to source that money. my sheffield sent... - government funding. to source that money. my sheffield sent... if- government funding. to source that money. my sheffield sent... if you. money. my sheffield sent... if you and our money. my sheffield sent... if you and your organisation _ money. my sheffield sent... if you and your organisation weren't - money. my sheffield sent...” and your organisation weren't there what would that mean? more pressure on social care- — what would that mean? more pressure on social care. more _ what would that mean? more pressure on social care. more children _ what would that mean? more pressure on social care. more children would - on social care. more children would be taken _ on social care. more children would be taken into— on social care. more children would be taken into care. _ on social care. more children would be taken into care. i’m“ _ on social care. more children would be taken into care.— be taken into care. i'm going to come back— be taken into care. i'm going to come back to — be taken into care. i'm going to come back to alison _ be taken into care. i'm going to come back to alison mcgovern l come back to alison mcgovern about the images work. before covid, there were about 100,000 vacancies in the nhs. covid had a devastating effect but how would you retain people and get more people in? make it tough. i'm married to somebody who works in their chest so i know all about it. my their chest so i know all about it. my mother lots of it was. these issues have affected us as a family. we have had young children, so childcare has been really important and i have been the children and families minister. we try to provide as much support as possible. sometimes we also rely on the voluntary sector and we work hand—in—hand with them but at the same time with the nhs it's not been helped with waiting lists with the pandemic, and we had to play catch—up. pandemic, and we had to play catch-unm— pandemic, and we had to play catch-u-. , my , , catch-up. this is by 'ust putting in more money _ catch-up. this is by 'ust putting in more money isn't — catch-up. this is byjust putting in more money isn't going _ catch-up. this is byjust putting in more money isn't going to - catch-up. this is byjust putting in more money isn't going to solve l catch-up. this is byjust putting in l more money isn't going to solve the problem _ more money isn't going to solve the problem. you can't magic staff out of thin— problem. you can't magic staff out of thin air~ — problem. you can't magic staff out of thin air. ~ . ., problem. you can't magic staff out of thin air-— of thin air. what would solve the problem? _ of thin air. what would solve the problem? and — of thin air. what would solve the problem? and haven't _ of thin air. what would solve the problem? and haven't you - of thin air. what would solve the problem? and haven't you had l of thin air. what would solve the - problem? and haven't you had enough time to fix it?— time to fix it? workload is important- _ time to fix it? workload is important. we _ time to fix it? workload is important. we have - time to fix it? workload is important. we have to - time to fix it? workload is i important. we have to make time to fix it? workload is - important. we have to make sure people _ important. we have to make sure people are — important. we have to make sure people are valued and paid a good salary— people are valued and paid a good salary but — people are valued and paid a good salary but also there are doctors who are — salary but also there are doctors who are retiring, and some to that because _ who are retiring, and some to that because the — who are retiring, and some to that because the tax rules with the pensions, _ because the tax rules with the pensions, so we have looked at that to make _ pensions, so we have looked at that to make it— pensions, so we have looked at that to make it worth their while. he vomited — to make it worth their while. he vomited mentioned —— the pharmacist mentioned, _ vomited mentioned —— the pharmacist mentioned, and there is a lot they can do _ mentioned, and there is a lot they can do. we — mentioned, and there is a lot they can do. ~ . ., mentioned, and there is a lot they can do. ~ . . ,, ., , mentioned, and there is a lot they cando. . . ,, can do. we all want the nhs to be as efficient as they _ can do. we all want the nhs to be as efficient as they can _ can do. we all want the nhs to be as efficient as they can be, _ can do. we all want the nhs to be as efficient as they can be, and - can do. we all want the nhs to be as efficient as they can be, and it - can do. we all want the nhs to be as efficient as they can be, and it is - efficient as they can be, and it is very efficient. we all want people, my gp surgery, you can book an appointment online for trip i think i am probably, appointment online for trip i think lam probably, i appointment online for trip i think i am probably, i don't think that's everywhere the tip but the truth is that the nhs is on its knees. what that the nhs is on its knees. what would ou that the nhs is on its knees. what would you do _ that the nhs is on its knees. what would you do differently? - that the nhs is on its knees. what would you do differently? when i i would you do differently? when i hear people _ would you do differently? when i hear people in — would you do differently? when i hear people in the _ would you do differently? when i hear people in the nhs, - would you do differently? when i i hear people in the nhs, particularly on the wirral, talking to me about the type of staffing problems they have got, we need the workforce plan that the tories agreed to labour's but also we need to enter that non—dom tax break to get that money into the nhs, non-dom tax break to get that money into the nhs.— into the nhs, because that will rovide into the nhs, because that will provide for _ into the nhs, because that will provide for 2 — into the nhs, because that will provide for 2 million _ into the nhs, because that will provide for 2 million more - provide for 2 million more operations and appointments, get that funding in support our nhs. i am very worried about the knock—on impact that the nhs's situation has on people's daily lives, their ability to do all the things they might wish to. of course, efficiency and effectiveness have to be a priority, but get that non—dom tax break ended and get that money into our nhs. we wa nt we want to talk about levelling up. it was one of the signature policies of the boris johnson government to people here when it was elected in 2019. a report out today suggests that former coal—mining areas like here are falling further behind the rest of britain, decades on from pit closures — that's according to the coalfields regeneration trust. doncaster is one of 55 towns and cities chosen to get a share of the £1 billion levelling up fund — just over 18 million it's getting to transform its city centre. what does levelling up mean to you? i am here representing sd thermal, you mention carbon capture a while ago, it a company that is looking to do that, for me i have heard about skills and employment and that is why we are putting our effort as an organisation, i think having pace on investment, and encouraging private investment, and encouraging private investment alongside public spending is important to us, and i don't disagree with anything i have heard necessarily, but what i do feel about this area and the broader region is there is a lot of positivity, so there is large organisations looking to invest private money. organisations looking to invest private money-— organisations looking to invest rivate mone . ~ . , . ,, . private money. what is your appeal to politician — private money. what is your appeal to politician of— private money. what is your appeal to politician of all— private money. what is your appeal to politician of all colours _ private money. what is your appeal to politician of all colours and - to politician of all colours and have you seen some of it from the conservative government?- have you seen some of it from the conservative government? we're have treat conservative government? we're have great commitment _ conservative government? we're have great commitment from _ conservative government? we're have great commitment from conservative l great commitment from conservative and labour, a clean power system, what we need is pace in encouraging private investment. that is looking at policies and business models that sit round that but the bigger picture around what we need to remember is what that can deliver for people so we see investment and the benefits they bring and invest in services and people living and working in the area, that is key, putting pace behind these investments and real commitment from both parties. what does levelling up mean to you. i am michelle from doncaster housing for young _ i am michelle from doncaster housing for young people we work with 16—25—year—olds who are homeless or sprain _ 16—25—year—olds who are homeless or sprain rabblely housed. i want to ask about — sprain rabblely housed. i want to ask about the housing allowance and the living _ ask about the housing allowance and the living allowance for the universal credit, specifically around _ universal credit, specifically around over 35s and under 35s, because — around over 35s and under 35s, because because it... around over 35s and under 35s, because because it. . ._ around over 35s and under 35s, because because it... more for under #355, because because it... more for under #35s. sorry — because because it... more for under #35s. sorry to _ because because it... more for under #35s, sorry to interrupts, _ because because it... more for under #35s, sorry to interrupts, that - #355, sorry to interrupts, that affects younger people when they are trying to rent somewhere, a landlord might say it is not enough. thea;r trying to rent somewhere, a landlord might say it is not enough.— might say it is not enough. they get a lot less so — might say it is not enough. they get a lot less so we _ might say it is not enough. they get a lot less so we don't _ might say it is not enough. they get a lot less so we don't have - might say it is not enough. they get a lot less so we don't have enough l a lot less so we don't have enough social— a lot less so we don't have enough social housing they are in the private — social housing they are in the private rented sector and a landlord is always _ private rented sector and a landlord is always going to choose somebody who is _ is always going to choose somebody who is getting more money. so is always going to choose somebody who is getting more money.- who is getting more money. so are ou sa int who is getting more money. so are you saying levelling _ who is getting more money. so are you saying levelling up _ who is getting more money. so are you saying levelling up is _ who is getting more money. so are you saying levelling up is matching | you saying levelling up is matching what a 25—year—old and 35—year—old gets? what a 25-year-old and 35-year-old tets? �* , ,., , what a 25-year-old and 35-year-old tets?,,, , 4' ., , gets? absolutely, you know, they, the , the gets? absolutely, you know, they, they. the bills _ gets? absolutely, you know, they, they, the bills are _ gets? absolutely, you know, they, they, the bills are the _ gets? absolutely, you know, they, they, the bills are the same, - gets? absolutely, you know, they, they, the bills are the same, gas, | they, the bills are the same, gas, electric— they, the bills are the same, gas, electric it — they, the bills are the same, gas, electric it is — they, the bills are the same, gas, electric it is all the same, so, yes — electric it is all the same, so, es. . ~' electric it is all the same, so, es. . ~ , ., electric it is all the same, so, es. . a electric it is all the same, so, es. ., ~' a ., electric it is all the same, so, yes. thank you michelle. hello. i amar rick— yes. thank you michelle. hello. i amar rick from _ yes. thank you michelle. hello. i amar rick from doncaster, - yes. thank you michelle. hello. i amar rick from doncaster, i'm . yes. thank you michelle. hello. i amar rick from doncaster, i'm a| amar rick from doncaster, i'm a business owner, a fire safety club tansey, we spend a lot of our time relooking at refurbishments for buildings that have been brought back up to housing, a lot of the time, but levelling up to me is all about that improving the infrastructure, improving buildings. have you seen it in this area? some of it. i have you seen it in this area? some of it- lthink— have you seen it in this area? some of it. | think that — have you seen it in this area? some of it. | think that a _ have you seen it in this area? some of it. | think that a lot _ have you seen it in this area? some of it. i think that a lot of— have you seen it in this area? some of it. | think that a lot of it - have you seen it in this area? some of it. i think that a lot of it is, - of it. i think that a lot of it is, of it. i think that a lot of it is, of course, you know, private refurbishments, so improvement of buildings, think there needs to be more of it. think there is a lot of buildings that are dying to be refurbished. i was talking earlier, with someone regarding this, in sheffield, and in doncaster there needs to be more, shopping centres, shopping store, department stores that have been... flan shopping store, department stores that have been. . ._ that have been... can i ask, on sin that have been... can i ask, on signty -- _ that have been... can i ask, on signty -- unscientific _ that have been... can i ask, on signty -- unscientific sample, | that have been... can i ask, on - signty -- unscientific sample, have signty —— unscientific sample, have you seen levelling up in this area. allzthat sounded like pretty much everyone in the room. all:that sounded like pretty much everyone in the room.— all:that sounded like pretty much everyone in the room. victoria, born and bread doncaster, _ everyone in the room. victoria, born and bread doncaster, walk— everyone in the room. victoria, born and bread doncaster, walk through i and bread doncaster, walk through doncaster last week, it's a ghost town, it is not a city, it is a town, it is not a city, it is a town, it is not a city, it is a town, it a ghost town, and there ises than been a lack of investment. people used to come to doncaster from miles round, it is a ghost town, they have put investment in and turned it into the booze capital of yorkshire, i delta variant go out on a saturday night in doncaster, it is fearful. we have turn it into a ghost town, it needs generation and investment back in to doncaster, if they are going to put it in. that money will _ they are going to put it in. that money will help? _ they are going to put it in. that money will help? let _ they are going to put it in. that money will help? let us - they are going to put it in. that money will help? let us see i they are going to put it in. that. money will help? let us see action and not words. _ and not words. action not words, brendan clarke—smith, it sounded to me like everyone in the room said they hadn't seen levelling up, that was the big promise from the 2019 conservative manifesto. you can't have growth without the private sector which goes hand in hand with what the government does but in pass let law i can give you several example, we have had money for the a&e department and the children's ward, we have had money for the town centre for we know town centres have changed. we a former coal mime mining area, we were one of the last coal—fired power stations in the country. that will generate jobs. coal—fired power stations in the country. that will generatejobs. it is all linked in. this is the point, it a long—term mission for us, really, it is not going to happen overnight. really, it is not going to happen overnitht. :: ' really, it is not going to happen overnight-— really, it is not going to happen overnitht. :: ' ., , overnight. 20% of the levelling up ro'ects overnight. 20% of the levelling up projects that _ overnight. 20% of the levelling up projects that have _ overnight. 20% of the levelling up projects that have been _ overnight. 20% of the levelling up projects that have been starting . projects that have been starting aren't— projects that have been starting aren't completed. it feels to people in the _ aren't completed. it feels to people in the country, that it is not levelling _ in the country, that it is not levelling up, it is levelling down, you go— levelling up, it is levelling down, you go to — levelling up, it is levelling down, you go to town centres throughout the country, you see empty buildings that could _ the country, you see empty buildings that could be refurbished as the gentleman said for house, it is not happening. — gentleman said for house, it is not happening, the basic problem is that this government doesn't have a plan, it doesn't— this government doesn't have a plan, it doesn't have an industrial plan, i it doesn't have an industrial plan, i doesn't — it doesn't have an industrial plan, i doesn't have an investment plan for businesses. do i doesn't have an investment plan for businesses.— for businesses. do you want to resond for businesses. do you want to respond top — for businesses. do you want to respond top that? _ for businesses. do you want to respond top that? it _ for businesses. do you want to respond top that? it doesn't i for businesses. do you want to i respond top that? it doesn't have for businesses. do you want to - respond top that? it doesn't have a [an for respond top that? it doesn't have a plan for the — respond top that? it doesn't have a plan forthe nhs. _ respond top that? it doesn't have a plan for the nhs, it _ respond top that? it doesn't have a plan for the nhs, it goes _ respond top that? it doesn't have a plan for the nhs, it goes from - plan for the nhs, it goes from crisis — plan for the nhs, it goes from crisis to— plan for the nhs, it goes from crisis to crisis and... plan for the nhs, it goes from crisis to crisis and. . ._ plan for the nhs, it goes from crisis to crisis and... certainly in terms of how — crisis to crisis and... certainly in terms of how we _ crisis to crisis and... certainly in terms of how we want _ crisis to crisis and... certainly in terms of how we want to - crisis to crisis and... certainly in terms of how we want to invest, borisjohnson made a big deal of levelling up. it is nojust about large cash transferser it is about pride in community, opportunities... there are people here, with respect, there are people here in the audience who are laughing at what you are seeing because they don't... we spent £400 on the pandemic, it has impacted the nhs, a lot of building project, it has impacted all of these things together now so we are still recovering from that but we are going on the right path. getting inflation down and we will see that levelling up and investment, including here in doncaster east. but investment, including here in doncaster east.— investment, including here in doncaster east. �* �* . doncaster east. but there wasn't a andemic doncaster east. but there wasn't a pandemic when — doncaster east. but there wasn't a pandemic when conservative - pandemic when conservative chancellors like george osborne decided — chancellors like george osborne decided that local authorities would take the _ decided that local authorities would take the brunt of the cuts and they would _ take the brunt of the cuts and they would get — take the brunt of the cuts and they would get year— by—year settlements and never— would get year— by—year settlements and never been able to properly plan or make _ and never been able to properly plan or make things happen, so the gentleman there said we need action, not words. _ gentleman there said we need action, not words, and i think he's right, levelling — not words, and i think he's right, levelling up, this competition between area, that was the wrong idea, _ between area, that was the wrong idea, what— between area, that was the wrong idea, what you needed was consistent plans, _ idea, what you needed was consistent plans, in— idea, what you needed was consistent plans, in places that really needed it over— plans, in places that really needed it over time. plans, in places that really needed it overtime. i know plans, in places that really needed it over time. i know it is not easy and has — it over time. i know it is not easy and has been pointed out we have lots of _ and has been pointed out we have lots of empty buildings, we need a retrofitting scheme to bring them back in— retrofitting scheme to bring them back in use, it is not easy but what we need _ back in use, it is not easy but what we need is — back in use, it is not easy but what we need is consistency and not to make _ we need is consistency and not to make our— we need is consistency and not to make our town halls again and again and again— make our town halls again and again and again bearthe make our town halls again and again and again bear the brunt of cuts. levelling — and again bear the brunt of cuts. levelling up, when that was announce everybody was excited. it sounded great. 4 billion was never going to scratch the surface, local councils, the governments have adopted a begging bowl approach where local councils have to fill out tenners, it is estimated £27 million has been spent by a local councils applying for levelling up funding what do we see for it? we, i know the area very well, in barnsley we have exactly the same issues as doncaster town centre spent a lot more than £18 million there, has it worked, to a degree, but... it million there, has it worked, to a degree. but---— million there, has it worked, to a degree, but... it works if the money tets degree, but... it works if the money gets there- — degree, but... it works if the money gets there- to _ degree, but... it works if the money gets there. to a _ degree, but... it works if the money gets there. to a degree. _ degree, but... it works if the money gets there. to a degree. yes, - degree, but... it works if the money gets there. to a degree. yes, we i gets there. to a degree. yes, we haven't got _ gets there. to a degree. yes, we haven't got much _ gets there. to a degree. yes, we haven't got much time _ gets there. to a degree. yes, we haven't got much time left i gets there. to a degree. yes, we haven't got much time left so i i haven't got much time left so i might whizz the microphone along. i am from doncaster and i work in theatre, let us call it out what it is, it is meaningless, it's a meaningless phrase, it is complete rhetoric... applause. who knee knew that borisjohnson might put a policy out and lie about it. (w might put a policy out and lie about it. 'j~ . , . might put a policy out and lie about it. 'j~ . might put a policy out and lie about it. 'f~ ., , ., .,. how it. the 18ml, that is a fact... how much has — it. the 18ml, that is a fact... how much has been _ it. the 18ml, that is a fact... how much has been taken _

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