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voters who loyally and traditionally voted for them generation after generation. i have heard some of the narrative being spun around this election result this evening. yes, it's true that every muslim is bitterly angry at keir starmer and his misnamed labor party. but you would be very foolish if you didn't realise that millions of other citizens of our country are, too. keir starmer and rishi sunak are two chicks of the same backside. and they got well and truly spanked tonight here in rochdale. —— cheeks. finally i congratulate david tellis on his remarkable achievement. applause his on his remarkable achievement. applaus: , ., , applause his remarkable achievement in cominu applause his remarkable achievement in coming second _ applause his remarkable achievement in coming second in _ applause his remarkable achievement in coming second in this _ applause his remarkable achievement in coming second in this by-election . in coming second in this by—election and trust that even the most biased journalist in the room will realise that this is the first time ever in british political history that the two big parties of the state were thoroughly and soundly beaten. —— i congratulate david tulley on his achievement.— congratulate david tulley on his achievement._ i - congratulate david tulley on his achievement._ i don'tj congratulate david tulley on his - achievement._ i don't think achievement. applause i don't think that will have — achievement. applause i don't think that will have been _ achievement. applause i don't think that will have been listed _ achievement. applause i don't think that will have been listed downing i that will have been listed downing street and wherever keir starmer currently hangs out. that street and wherever keir starmer currently hangs out.— street and wherever keir starmer currently hangs out. that is george galloway during — currently hangs out. that is george galloway during his _ currently hangs out. that is george galloway during his victory - currently hangs out. that is george galloway during his victory speech. j galloway during his victory speech. during that speech, mr galloway was covered in confetti by a stage invader. but look at the moment. i hope to put together a grand alliance of all the parties. to remove... alliance of all the parties. to remove- - -— alliance of all the parties. to remove... ., . . remove... you are a climate change and i are! — remove... you are a climate change and i are! you _ remove... you are a climate change and i are! you said _ remove... you are a climate change and i are! you said in _ remove... you are a climate change and i are! you said in the _ remove... you are a climate change and i are! you said in the hustings l and i are! you said in the hustings that you _ and i are! you said in the hustings that you were to extract oil and gas from _ that you were to extract oil and gas from the _ that you were to extract oil and gas from the golf see and... that you were to extract oil and gas from the golf see and. . ._ from the golf see and... shouting andjeering _ from the golf see and... shouting andjeering t _ from the golf see and... shouting and jeering | want _ from the golf see and... shouting and jeering | want to... _ from the golf see and... shouting i andjeering i want to. . . chanting: andjeering i want to... chanting: galloway, galloway! he andjeering i want to. . . chanting: galloway, galloway!— andjeering i want to... chanting: galloway, galloway! he continued his seech. galloway, galloway! he continued his speech- our— galloway, galloway! he continued his speech. our political _ galloway, galloway! he continued his speech. our political correspondent l speech. our political correspondent spoke to mr galloway after his victory and asked what message he thinks it will send. i victory and asked what message he thinks it will send.— thinks it will send. i think the bi est thinks it will send. i think the biggest messages _ thinks it will send. i think the biggest messages to -- - thinks it will send. i think the - biggest messages to -- message is to biggest messages to —— message is to keir starmer that he has lost the trust and confidence of millions of traditional labour voters. and that will cost labour plenty in the general election this year. this is not a particular— general election this year. this is not a particular set _ general election this year. this is not a particular set of— not a particular set of circumstances, though. would labour have won if they didn't have to drop their candidate?— have won if they didn't have to drop their candidate? none of us can know that. if their candidate? none of us can know that- if you — their candidate? none of us can know that. if you think _ their candidate? none of us can know that. if you think it _ their candidate? none of us can know that. if you think it is _ their candidate? none of us can know that. if you think it is just _ their candidate? none of us can know that. if you think it isjust a _ that. if you think it is just a particular set of circumstances, i beg to differ. i think that all over the country, workers party candidates, independent candidates, significant people will now stand up against labour in those constituencies and defeat them or because that defeat. and that ought to be a matter of concern for care starmer, and i think it is. you are well known- _ starmer, and i think it is. you are well known. you _ starmer, and i think it is. you are well known. you have _ starmer, and i think it is. you are well known. you have history - starmer, and i think it is. you are well known. you have history of. well known. you have history of doing this kind of thing. but does your party have the infrastructure do do more realistically in other parts of the country? taste do do more realistically in other parts of the country?— do do more realistically in other parts of the country? we now 60 parliamentary — parts of the country? we now 60 parliamentary candidates. - parts of the country? we now 60 parliamentary candidates. we i parts of the country? we now 60 i parliamentary candidates. we won't necessarily use them all because we are open to negotiation with others stop if independent a better shout than us, we will negotiate that. that. —— open to negotiation with others. ——if an independent has a better shout than us. i have been in the favelas of brazil. it has been around the world. i think it will spread far. around the world. i think it will spread far-— around the world. i think it will sread far. ., ., ., spread far. reform uk have made claims about _ spread far. reform uk have made claims about the _ spread far. reform uk have made claims about the way _ spread far. reform uk have made claims about the way your - spread far. reform uk have made claims about the way your body i spread far. reform uk have made i claims about the way your body has campaigned, saying that there have been death threats, intimidation, firebombs... been death threats, intimidation, firebombs. . ._ firebombs. .. that would be defamatory- _ firebombs. .. that would be defamatory. i— firebombs. .. that would be defamatory. iwonder- firebombs. .. that would be defamatory. iwonder if- firebombs. .. that would be - defamatory. i wonder if richard thomas is lost his marbles, because i have attacks on my phone from richard tyers inviting me to be the reform party's candidate in a pulmonary by—election not that long ago. —— richard tice. i didn't intend to publish it, but if you want stop telling lies about me, i will start telling the truth about him. tn will start telling the truth about him. . ., will start telling the truth about him. , ., ., , ., will start telling the truth about him. , ., ., i. ., him. in terms of what you do next, ou will him. in terms of what you do next, you will be — him. in terms of what you do next, you will be one _ him. in terms of what you do next, you will be one of _ him. in terms of what you do next, you will be one of 650 _ him. in terms of what you do next, you will be one of 650 mps. - him. in terms of what you do next, you will be one of 650 mps. you i you will be one of 650 mps. you think so. how _ you will be one of 650 mps. you think so. how do _ you will be one of 650 mps. you think so. how do you _ you will be one of 650 mps. you think so. how do you intend - you will be one of 650 mps. you think so. how do you intend to l think so. how do you intend to make- -- _ think so. how do you intend to make- -- do — think so. how do you intend to make... do you _ think so. how do you intend to make... do you really - think so. how do you intend to make... do you really think i think so. how do you intend to | make... do you really think so? think so. how do you intend to i make... do you really think so? i will 'ust make... do you really think so? i williust be _ make... do you really think so? i willjust be one _ make... do you really think so? i willjust be one of _ make... do you really think so? i willjust be one of 650? - make... do you really think so? i willjust be one of 650? on - make... do you really think so? i l willjust be one of 650? on paper, es. this willjust be one of 650? on paper, yes- this is — willjust be one of 650? on paper, yes- this is my _ willjust be one of 650? on paper, yes. this is my seven _ willjust be one of 650? on paper, | yes. this is my seven parliamentary term. if yes. this is my seven parliamentary term- if you — yes. this is my seven parliamentary term. if you are _ yes. this is my seven parliamentary term. if you are a _ yes. this is my seven parliamentary term. if you are a football— yes. this is my seven parliamentary term. if you are a football fan, - yes. this is my seven parliamentary term. if you are a football fan, who | term. if you are a football fan, who would you bet one—on—one heading in for goal? i know the way to go. i know the way to the goal of bursting the toxic bubble of these two frontbenchers. apparently inseparable. two cheeks of the same cars. �* inseparable. two cheeks of the same cars. ~ , ., inseparable. two cheeks of the same cars. �* , ., , inseparable. two cheeks of the same cars. ~ . inseparable. two cheeks of the same cars. . cars. are you saying that you can hold onto — cars. are you saying that you can hold onto the _ cars. are you saying that you can hold onto the seat _ cars. are you saying that you can hold onto the seat and _ cars. are you saying that you can hold onto the seat and as - cars. are you saying that you can hold onto the seat and as you . cars. are you saying that you can l hold onto the seat and as you have orally suggested made gains realistically another parts of the country? —— cheeks of the same ours. i invite you to be humble and imagine that this could be the beginning of something new, something big. and what buttresses my point is the fact that an independent candidate came second. trounced the conservatives. so i win, an independent that the media and the betting markets didn't even see coming, come second. that tells you the depths of alienation that exists in the country about these two big parties. than exists in the country about these two big parties. an extraordinary set of circumstances, _ two big parties. an extraordinary set of circumstances, and - two big parties. an extraordinary set of circumstances, and we - two big parties. an extraordinary. set of circumstances, and we have seen this in many recent by—elections. is there something particular about rochdale, do you think? tt particular about rochdale, do you think? . , ., particular about rochdale, do you think? . ,, . ., particular about rochdale, do you think? . ,, .. , think? it as a special place. the co was think? it as a special place. the cop was born — think? it as a special place. the cop was born here _ think? it as a special place. the cop was born here in _ think? it as a special place. the cop was born here in 1844. - think? it as a special place. the cop was born here in 1844. it i think? it as a special place. the. cop was born here in 1844. it has think? it as a special place. the i cop was born here in 1844. it has a pioneering spirit. but i do think it is of national significance. i think the political class and the media would be unwise to write it off as just a particular set of circumstances that aren't occurring anywhere else at any other time. i honestly believe that the tory and labour duopoly have roundly spaced — despised is a strong word, but they are disliked by millions of people. and if these people get a chance to vote for someone who could win, they might take it, and they did today. you would be aware you are a divisive figure. what would you do to speak to those in rochdale who will be concerned over the fact that you have been elected?— you have been elected? looking at the result doesn't _ you have been elected? looking at the result doesn't look— you have been elected? looking at the result doesn't look that - the result doesn't look that divisive. it looks like the great majority of voters voted for me. politics is about different choices, different paths, different attitudes to 2.3 million people being starved and bombed and shelled. if that is divisive, 0k, and bombed and shelled. if that is divisive, ok, i'm against genocide, some are in favour of it. we need to accept that that is a division. in fairness to the labour party, their position now is for an immediate ceasefire, which is where the international community is now. these are weasel words as shown in parliament the other week. they are really in favour of a ceasefire. they are not really in favour of an end to the occupation of freedom for the palestinian people, theyjust pretend to be. at a humanitarian pauseis pretend to be. at a humanitarian pause is by definition a state of being that will not persist, that will then be followed by further bloodshed. so the s&p motion is one that should have backed but they didn't back it and they didn't back it because they don't believe in it. 37 years ago, your first elected as a labour mp. could you have foreseen the political career that you have now had and all the ups and downs and the various different things that you have managed to achieve? probably not. but i am proud of the stands that i have made. i could do no other. that is where i stood. and i have to stand. and the proof of the pudding is in the eating. i have just equalled mr churchill's record of representing four different towns and cities in parliament. in fact, i batted it, because he was thursday conservative then a liberal member of parliament, the two great parties of parliament, the two great parties of the state at that time. i have been elected three times stop not from within the establishment. i'm proud about that. my children are proud about that. my children are proud of it. my wife is proud of it. so if i had been able to see that far, 37 years ago, i would probably say i would settle for that. that far, 37 years ago, i would probably say i would settle for that.- say i would settle for that. that is geora e say i would settle for that. that is george galloway _ say i would settle for that. that is george galloway talking - say i would settle for that. that is george galloway talking after i say i would settle for that. that is george galloway talking after his| george galloway talking after his victory to our political correspondent. the surprise runner—up was david tulley, a local businessmen and independent candidate with a conservative candidate with a conservative candidate coming third. here is the result for the top six, if you are just waking up. there you can see at the top is george galloway for the workers party of britain, with 12,335 votes. as i mentioned, the independent candidate david tulley came second with 6638. the conservative candidate paul ellison with 3731. labour, azhar ali was on the ballot paper as labour, but you will remember that labour disowned him. but he got 2402 votes. the liberal democrats' iain donaldson with 2164. and simon danczukfrom reform uk, coming sixth with 1968. those of the votes. let's look of the votes. you can see george galloway�*s workers party of britain took 40% with david tulley, the independent, 21. the conservatives on 12, and labour eight with the liberal democrats on seven and reform on that mean about the change between this by—election and that of 2019? they have a 40% share change as there wasn't a workers party of britain in the last election. the interesting are the conservative and labour, conservative don't19% and labour, conservative don't19% and labour done 44%. looking at the difference of what labour is down 44, and the workers party of britain, 40%, you get an idea of what has happened. going onto the swing, who doesn't like a swingometer coming up to 14 minutes past four. this shows a swing of 41.8%. now, during that interview with george galloway, you heard it put to mr galloway, those claims from reform uk. this is what we heard from richard tice before the result was announced. this heard from richard tice before the result was announced.— heard from richard tice before the result was announced. this is to act as a wake-up _ result was announced. this is to act as a wake-up call _ result was announced. this is to act as a wake-up call for _ result was announced. this is to act as a wake-up call for the _ result was announced. this is to act as a wake-up call for the whole i as a wake—up call for the whole british people. we are supposed to be a beacon of democracy, but i am questioning that. and unless something dramatically changes, the reality is this will really repeated in many places at the general election. we faced numerous extremist, anti—semitic lawmakers. the people you are referring to idea to defend themselves. and you have made some strong claims there. a lot of people might look at this and it looks like you haven't done well, this is just sour grapes. looks like you haven't done well, this isjust sour grapes. it is implications _ this isjust sour grapes. it is implications for— this isjust sour grapes. it is implications for our - this isjust sour grapes. it 3 implications for our democracy. how can you run a campaign when you are suffering intimidation, death threats, abuse? you have to move your staff? you are being threatened with failed bombs —— firebombs? so you are saying this could be repeated elsewhere. what evidence do you have? repeated elsewhere. what evidence do ou have? , . repeated elsewhere. what evidence do ouhave? _ repeated elsewhere. what evidence do ouhave? ,, ,_ repeated elsewhere. what evidence do ouhave? ,, ., you have? eyes visibly said at the aeneral you have? eyes visibly said at the general election. _ you have? eyes visibly said at the general election. certain - general election. certain constituencies in the uk. we need to understand what is going on here. —— i specifically said that the general election. . , ., ,., election. can you give me some examples? _ election. can you give me some examples? i — election. can you give me some examples? i have _ election. can you give me some examples? i have given - election. can you give me some examples? i have given them i election. can you give me some | examples? i have given them to election. can you give me some i examples? i have given them to you. there's a video _ examples? i have given them to you. there's a video online _ examples? i have given them to you. there's a video online of— examples? i have given them to you. there's a video online of vile, - there's a video online of vile, racist, desperate abuse to my candidate earlier this week. supporters are being threatened with firebombs. i have had to move my stuff. at this account or my staff have left. �* . stuff. at this account or my staff have left. �* , ., have left. i've been here all night and i haven't— have left. i've been here all night and i haven't seen _ have left. i've been here all night and i haven't seen any _ have left. i've been here all night and i haven't seen any of- have left. i've been here all night and i haven't seen any of this i have left. i've been here all night| and i haven't seen any of this kind of thing going on, to be honest. i haven't spotted any intimidation. you are the media, not the candidate, not the people in the staff of reform uk. i had to bring in security guards to keep my half safe in the last few days. it seems to me that you're distracting from the fact that reform uk hasn't performed well and it has been won by somebody you don't like fundamentally. is that not the case? it isn't at all. liberty has done well except mr galloway. implications for our democracy are very serious indeed. is that how we want our by—elections conducted because max is that how want our general election conducted? these general election conducted ? these are general election conducted? these are serious questions. i'm just putting up what we have experience. others may disagree. but this is this is what has happened on the ground here rochdale. how can you run a proper campaign like that? this is the worst i express my political life. some on my team have been imported so that he is a never seen anything like this. to suggest to the sour grapes is nonsense. that is richard tice, _ to the sour grapes is nonsense. that is richard tice, from _ to the sour grapes is nonsense. that is richard tice, from reform uk. the breaking news is george galloway has won the rochdale by—election by almost 6000 votes. our political correspondent as this report. you could hear the strong message he was earning the degree to kevin starmer, leader of the labour party. he said the muslim population was fed up with their position on that, that they wanted a stronger stance on what is happening in gaza right now. going to some of the other candidates, too, an extraordinary result for the independent candidates, david tulley, who wasn't involved in politics until a few weeks ago coming back and in the by—election. it was the conservatives into third. the labour party it was dropped by the party came forth. is name was next to the labour red rose on the ballot but that was dashed. liberal democrats came fifth, and simon danczuk, disappointing for him, and six. but we are waiting to hear from george galloway comedy star, making an extraordinary comeback to once again. —— george galloway, the star of the night. he said it could be the first of many seeds falling across the midlands, london, areas with large muslim populations, that he thinks will want to send a strong message to the labour party. he has done will have to come out and say something in the morning on this or someone from the shadow cabinet well. they want to play down the significance of this. there were particular circumstances around their candidate in this by—election but this is damaging and when guesstimate turns up in the houses of parliament... george galloway, a lot of those labour mps have lost the whip and are now sitting as an independent. jeremy corbyn, who george galloway supported when he was leader, is still there and has been calling for some time for an immediate ceasefire in gaza. it should be noted that labour does back and immediate humanitarian ceasefire, reflective of where the international community is on that now. it was to be seen as aligned with all those countries around the world like the united states, australia, new zealand, but there's no doubt was probably coming coming terms of the results that castano would have wanted from the election, the worst possible outcome. —— keir starmer. before the result was announced, peter caught up with david tulley and asked why he stood. i thought i would stand in the by—election and give rochdale a voice. i think i've been the front man of that. i am very proud of what we have achieved over the last full week. myself and the community of rochdale. it week. myself and the community of rochdale. . . . week. myself and the community of rochdale. . , , ., , ., rochdale. it has been a bizarre by-election — rochdale. it has been a bizarre by-election campaign. - rochdale. it has been a bizarre by-election campaign. in i rochdale. it has been a bizarre by-election campaign. in the l by—election campaign. in the background, the raving loony party trying to get involved as well. it has also been, according to some i've spoken to, quite a toxic campaign. what is your experience with that, how is that been like? i thought i brought a bit of a breath of fresh air to it, really. i wanted to be a voice for rochdale and i have had a good campaign, we have great support across the community. so i felt i didn't feel the toxic part of the campaign because i haven't got involved with the toxic — that is in my forte. haven't got involved with the toxic - that is in my forte.— haven't got involved with the toxic - that is in my forte. have you seen an of - that is in my forte. have you seen any of that — - that is in my forte. have you seen any of that sort _ - that is in my forte. have you seen any of that sort of— - that is in my forte. have you seen any of that sort of thing _ - that is in my forte. have you seen any of that sort of thing happening, | any of that sort of thing happening, though? —— that is not my forte. idat though? -- that is not my forte. not personally- — though? -- that is not my forte. not personally- i've _ though? —— that is not my forte. ihrt personally. i've lived in this town all my life and have good relationships across the community. i feel like people in relationships across the community. ifeel like people in the community have supported me. i am very humble and very proud of the people of rochdale. it is but a good light to our town for a change, another bad like we have had over the last few years. like we have had over the last few ears. ~ �* ., ., years. we're going to get the decoration — years. we're going to get the decoration on _ years. we're going to get the decoration on the _ years. we're going to get the decoration on the stage i years. we're going to get the decoration on the stage justl years. we're going to get the i decoration on the stage just behind you just in the next 20 minutes or so, i'm told. and we're hearing that you might have come second. is that what you are thinking, to? yes. you might have come second. is that what you are thinking, to?— what you are thinking, to? yes, i'm led to believe. _ what you are thinking, to? yes, i'm led to believe. we _ what you are thinking, to? yes, i'm led to believe. we will _ what you are thinking, to? yes, i'm led to believe. we will see - what you are thinking, to? yes, i'm led to believe. we will see if - what you are thinking, to? yes, i'm led to believe. we will see if that i led to believe. we will see if that pans out in the next 20 minutes. but if that is so, to be involved with something that i didn't really anticipate getting involved in a week ago, and to be in a position now, like i say, i am very proud of the people of rochdale for supporting me. i can only thank them if that is the case. there is — you know, ifeel very humble if that is the case. there is — you know, i feel very humble that we have put a good light on our town and hopefully this is a better change for the people of rochdale and its community. i am out of that, to be honest. and its community. i am out of that, to be honest-— to be honest. david tulley, independent _ to be honest. david tulley, independent candidate, i to be honest. david tulley, i independent candidate, talking to be honest. david tulley, - independent candidate, talking just before the result came in. and he did come second to george galloway, who won the rochdale by—election. we have had some reaction come in to mr galloway�*s when, and the campaign against anti—semitism has said it is extremely concerned about how he will use his platform after winning the by—election. a spokesperson said: so that is a little bit of reaction to mr galloway�*s win. joe twyman, polling expert, has been with us throughout the night and is here to give us his considered thoughts. i wondered if you could sum up what mr galloway�*s win means. this wondered if you could sum up what mr galloway's win means.— galloway's win means. this was a very unusual _ galloway's win means. this was a very unusual campaign. _ galloway's win means. this was a very unusual campaign. even i galloway's win means. this was a very unusual campaign. even by. galloway's win means. this was a i very unusual campaign. even by the standards of by—elections, which are weird and wonderful in many ways each time. but this is particularly unusual. the result is, in many ways, unprecedented, have notjust george galloway win galloway win and win comfortably, but to have local business owner david tulley coming second is really an unprecedented situation in modern british political history. we were sitting back through history books earlier and we found the last have similar circumstances occurred was in the combined scottish universities constituency in the 1945 election. very much in the past for that. but where do we go from here? i imagine this will be a problem for all parties and, indeed, for mainstream politics generally. but it will be of particular concern to labour and care star marker with george galloway returning to the house of commons and basking in the publicity that that will present him with. —— deltapoll. —— keir starmer. he will be able to return to the role of agent provocateur and house of commons, and i'm sure the questions about gaza, palestine, they will be raised, causing discomfort for labour and raised, causing discomfort for labourand keir raised, causing discomfort for labour and keir starmer at a time they don't want to focus on that. mr galloway said it was the start of a movement and in suggesting that his party would stand candidates at the general election. eligible worry for mainstream parties would that be, going forward? ih mainstream parties would that be, going forward?— mainstream parties would that be, going forward? in the 2019 general election mainstream _ going forward? in the 2019 general election mainstream parties- going forward? in the 2019 general election mainstream parties picked up election mainstream parties picked up just under 90% of the votes in rochdale, labour, conservative, and lib dem. in this by—election they could make 27%. it shows just how far those parties have collapsed. having said that, the circumstances were unusual and we don't know what would have happened if labour had had a candidate they had been able to stick with and campaign for. but there is no doubt that this illustrates there is a movement that can be utilised against mainstream politics. the question that now comes, when we get to the general election, likely to be a few months away, in the autumn. will there be enough momentum that are to be continued at a national level? i think that is the big challenge for george galloway and his support is, because in rochdale they might salute his courage, strength, and in difficulty reality, it will be more difficulty reality, it will be more difficult to do that in a series of constituencies. —— indefatigability. the situation between israel and the palestinians, that situation may have changed by the time the general election comes around, so putting all your eggs in that basket may be tactically not beneficial for galloway and his team. joe tactically not beneficial for gallowa and his team. . ., , ., galloway and his team. joe twyman, thank ou galloway and his team. joe twyman, thank you for— galloway and his team. joe twyman, thank you for being _ galloway and his team. joe twyman, thank you for being with _ galloway and his team. joe twyman, thank you for being with us - galloway and his team. joe twyman, thank you for being with us today. i galloway and his team. joe twyman, thank you for being with us today. a | thank you for being with us today. a reminder of the main news, george galloway has won the rochdale by—election. the leader of the workers party of britain received 12,000 votes, nearly double those of the independent candidate david culley who came second, the conservatives in third place. —— david tulley. if you want analysis, you can get it on our special low paid, up and running on the bbc news website and out. you can find that at bbc.co.uk/news or on the bbc news app. more analysis at five a.m.. time for a look at the weather with elizabeth. hello there. well, february was mild on the whole, and it was also very wet for many of us, particularly across parts of east anglia, where some spots saw as much as three times the average february rainfall. now, as we head into march and the start of the meteorological spring, well, it's all about to turn colder. there'll be some frosty nights and the possibility of some of that rain, the showers turn into snow over the higher ground. now, mostly any snow will be over 200 metres elevation. so that does include the high ground of northern ireland, the welsh mountains, the pennines and the cumbrian fells. and some of that rain and snow will be pushing towards the southern uplands as we head towards the end of the day where the snow levels could start to drop a little bit. but there will be a lot of heavy rain as we head through the morning across england, wales and northern ireland. it's all clearing its way northwards and eastwards showers, brighter spells following on behind for many of us, blustery winds up through the channel and for north sea facing coast as well. some of that rain clearing away from northern ireland. it's going to be feeling cold, largely dry across much of scotland until we get to the end of the day when we could start to see some snow just feeding its way in from the south and then gradually pushing northwards as we head throughout the night. the snow levels starting to drop. it's another cold night on friday into saturday. there will be a frost out there for many sheltered spots. temperatures down to low single figures. watch out for some icy stretches, of course, as we start off the weekend. now, on saturday, a low pressure is very much centred right across the uk and it's just spiralling around all of these showers. there could be showers just about anywhere as we head throughout the day on saturday. still brisk northerly winds blowing across the northwest of scotland, down through northern ireland. but elsewhere, the winds will fall a little lighter. there will be some showers again, wintry over the high ground. it's still feeling cold as well, with temperatures peaking only between seven and nine degrees celsius. that's a little below the seasonal average, of course, feeling colder and exposure to the wind and underneath the rain. it's the same again on sunday, but it looks drier for most of us. so fewer showers around. but the showers that we do see again could turn wintry over the higher ground. the winds will be lighter as that low tends to fill. as we head through into the start of next week, another area of low pressure swings in from the southwest. so again, it's looking wet and it's looking windy at times. but after we get to tuesday and wednesday, things will start to settle down. it could turn a bit milder. bye— bye. voice-over: this is bbc news. we'll have the headlines and all the main news stories for you at the top of the hour, straight after this programme. russia's neighbour, georgia, is closely watching what happens in ukraine. it shares a 900km border with russia, who invaded in 2008. russian troops are still stationed in two separatist regions. georgia has just been granted eu candidate status and talks ofjoining nato, yet its government is seen as sympathetic to russia. it's a diplomatic tightrope, and one my guest needs to walk. salome zourabichvili is the country's president. where does georgia's destiny lie — with russia or the west? salome zourabichvili, welcome to hardtalk. thank you for having me for the third time. do you think that russia wants control of georgia?

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