correspondent has been following the negotiations around the demands and interests of various groups. we waited and we waited and then... hearing no objection, it is so decided. with the bang of a gavel, the deal was done. applause. and it got a standing ovation. so the hammer has just gone down here, and that was the fastest an agreement text has ever been agreed. the presidency is calling this an historic agreement, but it is hedged around with questions and doubts. it calls on countries to contribute to ambitious actions to tackle climate change. now, i could do a single plate and claim to have contributed to doing the washing up, but would you consider that i had really pulled my weight? the president of these talks was in no doubt how important it was. together we have confronted realities, and we have set the world in the right direction. there was support from many country, especially richer nations. this is a moment where multi—lateralism has come together and people have taken individual interests and attempted to define the common good. that is hard. it is the hardest thing in diplomacy it's it is the hardest thing in politics. and congratulations from saudi arabia too, which had pushed to weaken the agreement. but many of the representatives of the country's most vulnerable to climate change, the small island states were not in the room and they said there is a litany of loopholes here. the course correction that is needed has not been secured. what we needed is a step change in our actions and support. but including a commitment to transition away from fossil fuels is a first for these cop conference, a belated acknowledgement of the central challenge in the climate battle. getting rid of coal, oil and gas, and that is an important step forward. just in bbc news, dubai. david shukman thinks the first real test of change is just two years down the line. test of change is “ust two years down the line._ test of change is “ust two years down the line. what is meant to ha en down the line. what is meant to happen now _ down the line. what is meant to happen now is _ down the line. what is meant to happen now is that _ down the line. what is meant to happen now is that all— down the line. what is meant to happen now is that all of - down the line. what is meant to happen now is that all of the - happen now is that all of the governments that have signed this deal and made this promise go back home and upgrade and update their climate plans, their carbon reduction strategies. and that is when we will see how seriously they are taking this. are they really moving away from fossil fuels? 0n past form, they won't all do that. i think the other strand to this which is really critical is what signal is sent by this statement about the move away from fossil fuels to businesses? so imagine if you are around the boardroom table, weighing up an investment, fossil fuels, renewables? for example. if you are a bank, weighing up what to invest in, who to lend money to. wind farm, oilfield? right? these are the critical decisions that are now faced. and one would imagine that many of them would be influenced by this, i think, powerful signal that the world has decided a new sense of direction. let's now hear from michal kurtyka, the former minister of climate, energy and environment of poland and the president of copzii conference five years ago. hello to you. thank you very much forjoining us. what do you think, is this a turning point on fossil fuel? ~ ., , ., ,., . ~ is this a turning point on fossil fuel? ~ ., , ., . ~ ., fuel? will governments go back to their country _ fuel? will governments go back to their country now, _ fuel? will governments go back to their country now, the _ fuel? will governments go back to their country now, the leaders, i fuel? will governments go back to l their country now, the leaders, and make massive changes, do you think? thank you very much for inviting me. my thank you very much for inviting me. my pleasure. that is a very unusual cop comedy gusts it was when i was the president, it starts when it ends. which was to say that the real negotiations start when, in fact, the deadlines are approaching. we have a very important decision which has been adopted prior to the closure of the kop which again is good and bad. good in a sense that we have the outcome, and paradoxical in the sense that from previous wording of phasing out of fossil fuels, we moved to somehow more vague concept of moving away from fossil fuel. vague concept of moving away from fossilfuel. so vague concept of moving away from fossil fuel. so we vague concept of moving away from fossilfuel. so we have vague concept of moving away from fossil fuel. so we have this vague concept of moving away from fossilfuel. so we have this paradox and these paradoxes have been very much present at this cop. this is one of the cops which dedicated the most of the money to private sectors. the first day, i remember, the president said that $30 billion would be flowing to a private fund and $100 million to loss and damage funds. so 300 to one public sector only one and a private 300. so we have a cop where indeed this investment, financial dimension, is extremely important. and the world is effectively already spending more money on renewables than it is spending on oil and gas. whether out of that we can say that it is a turning point, probably not. it is talkin: turning point, probably not. it is talking about — turning point, probably not. it is talking about a _ turning point, probably not. it is talking about a tripling in terms of the renewables, isn't it? is that realistic? ~ ., , realistic? well, the world is already spending, - realistic? well, the world is already spending, for - realistic? well, the world is already spending, for every| realistic? well, the world is i already spending, for every $1 realistic? well, the world is - already spending, for every $1 for oil and gas industry, $1.7 for renewables. we have right now a record year. 500 gigawatts of renewables are being delivered this year. every day alone we are spending more than $1 billion on deployment of solar power only. three years ago, one in every 25 cars was electric. this year it is one in every five. effectively, the world already has taken this curve and we are entering into an era of massive deployment of new energy. but it does not mean that oil and gas culture is, and especially gulf countries know this very well, the end of fossil fuel. countries know this very well, the end of fossilfuel. this is something that indeed is extremely paradoxical. something that indeed is extremely aradoxical. ,, . ., something that indeed is extremely aradoxical. ,, . . , . ., paradoxical. such a huge percentage ofthe paradoxical. such a huge percentage of the world's _ paradoxical. such a huge percentage of the world's energy _ paradoxical. such a huge percentage of the world's energy comes - paradoxical. such a huge percentage of the world's energy comes from i of the world's energy comes from fossil fuel still, doesn't it? of the world's energy comes from fossilfuel still, doesn't it? 80%. it is going to be a huge cost, isn't it? in terms of the text in financing and helping other countries, the text says that it recognises that the current level of finance is given by rich countries to help their poorer counterparts cope with climate change and move to renewables has been lacking. that is all that it says. it doesn't actually say anything specific on more than that, just that it has been lacking before.— been lacking before. yes, but i would also _ been lacking before. yes, but i would also point _ been lacking before. yes, but i would also point out _ been lacking before. yes, but i would also point out another . would also point out another declaration, and of a claim, which is tripling of the nuclear capacities. which is probably more important than the one regarding renewables, because again comment regarding renewables, we started to be already on track in terms of delivering more investment into renewables than traditional fossil fuel industries already since the last two or three years. but nuclear has traditionally been a little bit emitted as a subject. every single study, including ibc, and is predicting that in order to reach climate neutrality we desperately need stable sources of energy, and nuclear is one of them. so we have this cop of a lot of questions regarding whether we are at a turning point, and this is also the question that one might ask already now with this declaration being adopted, but this is not a declaration which in fact is sending the signal about phasing down fossil fuels. so we don't know what moving away means, whether it doesn't mean for example that we can increase fossil fuel emissions for example that we can increase fossilfuel emissions in for example that we can increase fossil fuel emissions in the coming years. fossil fuel emissions in the coming ears. , , , fossil fuel emissions in the coming ears. , , ., years. just very quickly, how tricky is it to be the _ years. just very quickly, how tricky is it to be the president _ years. just very quickly, how tricky is it to be the president of- years. just very quickly, how tricky is it to be the president of cop? i is it to be the president of cop? you did it five years ago, it looks like a thankless task, but also a very tricky one with all of these differing views that you are trying to shepherd around. yes. differing views that you are trying to shepherd around.— differing views that you are trying to shepherd around. yes, you have 196 parties. _ to shepherd around. yes, you have 196 parties. so _ to shepherd around. yes, you have 196 parties, so to _ to shepherd around. yes, you have 196 parties, so to convert - to shepherd around. yes, you have 196 parties, so to convert 196 - 196 parties, so to convert 196 different actors with unanimity which comes at the end, they something which is really incredibly complicated and requires a lot of preparation. lots of leadership and lots of transparency as well, lots of trust. trust between parties, and this trust is to be delivered by the chairman, by the president of the kop. so when you have an outcome, it is in fact the result of trust, which is being expressed by parties, participating in the kop. expressed in the leadership. right now, we also have this complicated thing is not everybody being at the table right now, we have heard that a couple of countries moved away during the decisions. so this is something also which is a paradox. we have the decision but yet nobody is with us. it is we have the decision but yet nobody is with us. , ., we have the decision but yet nobody is with us. , . ., , we have the decision but yet nobody is with us. , ., ., , my is with us. it is a really tricky one. is with us. it is a really tricky one- thank _ is with us. it is a really tricky one. thank you _ is with us. it is a really tricky one. thank you so _ is with us. it is a really tricky one. thank you so much - is with us. it is a really tricky one. thank you so much forl is with us. it is a really tricky - one. thank you so much for talking to us about it. i appreciate your time. a former environment minister of poland and a former cop president. thank you. the israeli army says it's carried out more than 250 strikes in gaza over the past 2a hours. it also revealed that nine soldiers, including a battalion commander, were killed in one incident on tuesday. palestinian health officials say at least 50 people were killed in the latest wave of air strikes. the health ministry in gaza has said that its supply of vaccines for children has run out, as un agencies warn of a public health disaster. 85% of the population of gaza has been displaced by the war with israel, and people are living in overcrowded, unsanitary shelters. the world health organization has reported a sharp rise in respiratory infections, diarrhoea, lice and scabies. president biden came out and blamed his indiscreet bombing of gaza for the lack of global support. at the un general assembly last night three quarters of the 193 members are voting in favour of an immediate humanitarian ceasefire. 0nly voting in favour of an immediate humanitarian ceasefire. only 23 countries abstaining, including the uk. in ten countries voting against, including the us and israel. they both argue that hamas would only benefit from a ceasefire at this stage. but there were other comments by president biden indicating how their increasing tensions and disagreements opening up between israel and the us. that is very important because israel looks to the us for financial important because israel looks to the us forfinancial support, for military aid, but also as a diplomatic shield of bodies like the un. and what washington has been saying increasingly in recent days is that it is worried about notjust the conduct of the war but also the plan for what happens after the war. washington is talking about seeing a role for the palestinian authority, which governs parts of the west bank, in gaza, and it is talking about how israel needs to show commitment to this long—standing international formula for peace, the idea of creating an independent palestinian state down the line. the area where president biden and benjamin netanyahu disagree in terms of the palestinian authority's role in the future is interesting, isn't it? we have even had president biden saying that benjamin netanyahu may need to haven't we? that saying that benjamin netanyahu may need to haven't we?— need to haven't we? that is right, and remember _ need to haven't we? that is right, and remember that _ need to haven't we? that is right, and remember that this _ need to haven't we? that is right, and remember that this is - need to haven't we? that is right, and remember that this is the - need to haven't we? that is right, i and remember that this is the most far right government that israel has ever had. mr netanyahu is presiding over. increasingly, the claim that we are seeing in the israeli media circulating is that angeli netanyahu is not looking here to end the war in gaza, the conduct there, but also to his own political future, in gaza, the conduct there, but also to his own politicalfuture, and thatis to his own politicalfuture, and that is causing some modelling of things. that is causing some modelling of thins. ., ., ., ., things. your land now there from jerusalem- _ things. your land now there from jerusalem. let's _ things. your land now there from jerusalem. let's speak _ things. your land now there from jerusalem. let's speak now- things. your land now there from jerusalem. let's speak now to i jerusalem. let's speak now to associate professor of modern middle eastern history and politics at the university of reading. perhaps we canjust pick up on university of reading. perhaps we can just pick up on what was said that about president biden's comments. he was saying earlier that israel is losing support over its indiscriminate bombing of gaza. are you seeing that? are you saying that israel is losing support from its allies? i israel is losing support from its allies? ~ ., , israel is losing support from its allies? ~ . ,. ., , allies? i think that is certainly the case- _ allies? i think that is certainly the case- we _ allies? i think that is certainly the case. we have _ allies? i think that is certainly the case. we have seen - allies? i think that is certainly the case. we have seen it - allies? i think that is certainly the case. we have seen it in l allies? i think that is certainly i the case. we have seen it in the allies? i think that is certainly - the case. we have seen it in the un. and we have seen it in this sort of probably the most strident criticism that biden has made thus far. and that biden has made thus far. and that many people will be saying is long overdue. whether that translates into concrete action on the part of the us that would really put pressure on to israel is a different matter.— put pressure on to israel is a different matter. . , different matter. that is the thing. could we see _ different matter. that is the thing. could we see the _ different matter. that is the thing. could we see the us _ different matter. that is the thing. could we see the us perhaps - could we see the us perhaps threatening to withdraw its military and financial support? it has not been doing so so far, has it? lilo. and financial support? it has not been doing so so far, has it? no, it hasn't. been doing so so far, has it? no, it hasn't- that — been doing so so far, has it? no, it hasn't. that is _ been doing so so far, has it? no, it hasn't. that is certainly _ been doing so so far, has it? no, it hasn't. that is certainly one - been doing so so far, has it? no, it hasn't. that is certainly one way . hasn't. that is certainly one way that it could flex its diplomatic muscle. i think that is a possibility, though not a likelihood. in the immediate short term that is. the other option of course is that the us breton is not to use its veto powers, calling for a ceasefire. so there are some options available tojoe biden in terms of putting pressure on israel, but the question is whether he is going to be sufficiently motivated andindeed going to be sufficiently motivated and indeed able to put those into play. and indeed able to put those into .la , , and indeed able to put those into -la . , , ., and indeed able to put those into play. yes, in terms of israel's reaction _ play. yes, in terms of israel's reaction to — play. yes, in terms of israel's reaction to what _ play. yes, in terms of israel's reaction to what he _ play. yes, in terms of israel's reaction to what he has - play. yes, in terms of israel's reaction to what he has been| play. yes, in terms of israel's - reaction to what he has been saying, we had the statement today from israel's foreign minister saying that israel will continue the war against hamas with or without international support. he went on to say a ceasefire at the current stage is a gift to the terrorist organisation hamas and would allow it to return and threaten the residents of israel. it does not seem to be making any difference obviously anyway right now. yes! seem to be making any difference obviously anyway right now. yes, at the moment — obviously anyway right now. yes, at the moment it _ obviously anyway right now. yes, at the moment it is _ obviously anyway right now. yes, at the moment it is just _ obviously anyway right now. yes, at the moment it isjust words. - obviously anyway right now. yes, at the moment it is just words. what l the moment it is “ust words. what about in terms _ the moment it isjust words. what about in terms of— the moment it isjust words. what about in terms of the _ the moment it isjust words. what about in terms of the future? there is this disagreement as we were hearing from our correspondent there about who should be in charge of gaza if and when this conflict ends, the role of the palestinian authority, the us being in favour of it playing a large part and benjamin netanyahu not. is there any sort of support in israel for the role of the palestinian authority being a big one in gaza?— the palestinian authority being a big one in gaza? well, i think there is some criticism, _ big one in gaza? well, i think there is some criticism, certainly, - big one in gaza? well, i think there is some criticism, certainly, in - is some criticism, certainly, in israel of the current policy in gaza, which is ultimately not likely to achieve the levels of security that israel is seeking. 0n the contrary, we know israeli security experts have said that hamas recruits from the families of those killed by israeli forces. so whilst in the short—term there could be some inroads made in terms of really cutting hamas down to size, in the longer term, the history of insurgencies tell us that this is not a fruitful solution to the problem. so i think of a question of what comes next is really important, and there is, but i think, a broad recognition that israel is looking at this in a fairly short—term way. a military success but ultimately political victory. that is if a military success is indeed forthcoming. we have seen numerous israeli casualties as well as the horrendous loss of life on the palestinian side, and we still have over 100 israeli hostages that are held by hamas. so this is not looking like an imminent success for israel, in my opinion. {lilia looking like an imminent success for israel, in my opinion.— israel, in my opinion. 0k, thank you so much for— israel, in my opinion. 0k, thank you so much for talking _ israel, in my opinion. 0k, thank you so much for talking to _ israel, in my opinion. 0k, thank you so much for talking to us. _ israel, in my opinion. 0k, thank you so much for talking to us. around i so much for talking to us. around the world and across the uk, this is bbc news. you are watching bbc news life, the government's candidate for bbc chair says that gary lineker�*s recent tweet about politicians appear to breach the social media guidelines. the former england footballer recently hit back after the defence secretary questioned whether the much of the day hurst should express his political views. gary lineker was also among a group of celebrities to sign a letter calling for the government to scrap its rwanda scheme. and for political leaders to come up with a fair new plan for refugees. samir shah who is expected to take on the chairmanship was speaking to mps at her appointment hearing. with more on this, he is our cultural reporter, charlotte gallagher. thank you so much forjoining. tell us what more we know about what he said? mellie we know about what he said? well, firstl , we know about what he said? well, firstly. gary — we know about what he said? well, firstly, gary lineker— we know about what he said? well, firstly, gary lineker and _ we know about what he said? well, firstly, gary lineker and his - we know about what he said? -ii firstly, gary lineker and his social media past our long—running issue for bbc managers. you have right—leaning newspapers in the uk and conservative politicians accusing him essentially of being in breach of the bbc�*s impartiality guidelines. today we saw the government choice to be the new chairman being questioned by cross—party mps about a range of issues, and gary lineker. the chair to be said that he felt and believed that in recent tweet that gary lineker had made about three conservative politicians, jonathan gullis, lee anderson and the defence secretary, grant shapps, appeared to be in breach of the bbc�*s social media guidelines. and he said that this issue is helpful —— is not helpful for the bbc or gary lineker, describing it as a psychodrama. however, we should probably say that these three mps had to criticised gary lineker and he was responding to what they had said. mr xiao was also asked what he thought about gary lineker signing that letter, as you mention, criticising the government's policy about sending asylum seekers to rwanda. let's hear what he had to say. let asylum seekers to rwanda. let's hear what he had to say.— what he had to say. let me say that i don't what he had to say. let me say that i don't think— what he had to say. let me say that i don't think it — what he had to say. let me say that i don't think it was _ what he had to say. let me say that i don't think it was very _ what he had to say. let me say that i don't think it was very helpful. - what he had to say. let me say that i don't think it was very helpful. i i i don't think it was very helpful. i don't _ idon't think it was very helpful. i don't think— i don't think it was very helpful. i don't think it was helpful either for gary— don't think it was helpful either for gary lineker over bbc all because _ for gary lineker over bbc all because he supports. what happens, as we _ because he supports. what happens, as we have _ because he supports. what happens, as we have seen, is that it becomes as we have seen, is that it becomes a story— as we have seen, is that it becomes a story of— as we have seen, is that it becomes a story of the — as we have seen, is that it becomes a story of the bbc and gary lineker. another_ a story of the bbc and gary lineker. another turn of that particular wheel~ — another turn of that particular wheel~ i— another turn of that particular wheel. i don't think that is wheel. idon't think that is terribly— wheel. i don't think that is terribly helpful. context is that there _ terribly helpful. context is that there are — terribly helpful. context is that there are a set of social media rules— there are a set of social media rules to — there are a set of social media rules to govern the social media behaviour— rules to govern the social media behaviour of non—news presenters. i think— behaviour of non—news presenters. i think there _ behaviour of non—news presenters. i think there is — behaviour of non—news presenters. i think there is a slight misunderstanding, rememberthat the misunderstanding, remember that the bbc has _ misunderstanding, remember that the bbc has to _ misunderstanding, rememberthat the bbc has to balance freedom of expression, the right to have an opinion, — expression, the right to have an opinion, the right to say what you feel and _ opinion, the right to say what you feel and believe, especially if there — feel and believe, especially if there are things that you don't believe — there are things that you don't believe with, social media somewhat loosely— believe with, social media somewhat loosely has _ believe with, social media somewhat loosely has been presented very clearlx — loosely has been presented very clearly. non—news presenters are free to _ clearly. non—news presenters are free to express this opinions but there _ free to express this opinions but there are — free to express this opinions but there are guidelines to do with the manner_ there are guidelines to do with the manner and civility of it. not to make _ manner and civility of it. not to make ad — manner and civility of it. not to make ad hominem attacks. as far as i am aware. _ make ad hominem attacks. as far as i am aware, the signing of the letter did not— am aware, the signing of the letter did not breach those guidelines. i do think— did not breach those guidelines. i do think however the more recent tweet_ do think however the more recent tweet that — do think however the more recent tweet that gary lineker identified some _ tweet that gary lineker identified some politicians does, on the face of it, _ some politicians does, on the face of it. seem — some politicians does, on the face of it, seem to breach those particular— of it, seem to breach those particular guidelines. i am of it, seem to breach those particular guidelines. lam not of it, seem to breach those particular guidelines. i am not sure how egregious i it is but it does. i would _ how egregious i it is but it does. i would imagine that the bbc is now looking _ would imagine that the bbc is now looking into that and considering its response. looking into that and considering its response-— its response. charlotte, he “ust said there fl its response. charlotte, he “ust said there that i its response. charlotte, he “ust said there that i i its response. charlotte, he “ust said there that i would * its response. charlotte, hejust said there that i would imagine j its response. charlotte, he just - said there that i would imagine the bbc is considering its response. what has the bbc said about this? well, we asked them of course what they thought about semi i shall�*s statement and they referred us to something that they said earlier this week when asked about gary lineker and his social media post. they say that essentially people are allowed to talk about things that matter to them, however, people matterto them, however, people should always be civil and do not call into question other people's characters. and they say they will discuss issues as they arise. with each individual presenter. of course there are different rules, for example, we because we work in news can't really tweet any opinions but gary lineker is a different case because he works in sport. he is also a freelance, so he is allowed to tweet some opinions, but the bbc will obviously be deciding if what he has tweeted recently breaches of the new guidelines.— he has tweeted recently breaches of the new guidelines. charlotte, thank ou so the new guidelines. charlotte, thank you so much — the new guidelines. charlotte, thank you so much for— the new guidelines. charlotte, thank you so much for that. _ the new guidelines. charlotte, thank you so much for that. let's - the new guidelines. charlotte, thank you so much for that. let's move - you so much for that. let's move onto another story. wales's first minister has announced he is stepping down as welsh labour leader. in a statement he said that he would remain in the role until a new party leader is before easter. when i stood for the leadership of the labour party in wales, i said that if i were to be elected, i would aim to serve for five years. and exactly five years have passed to the day since i was confirmed as first minister in 2018. now nominations for my successor as welsh labour leader will open shortly, and i am confident that the process can be concluded by the end of the spring term. and that will enable the name of the winner of that contest to be put to the senate before the easter recess. lets that contest to be put to the senate before the easter recess.— before the easter recess. lets look ahead now. — before the easter recess. lets look ahead now. the — before the easter recess. lets look ahead now, the home _ before the easter recess. lets look ahead now, the home affairs - ahead now, the home affairs committee will be questioning home office ministers responsible for 0ffice ministers responsible for legal and illegal migration in a session focusing on migration and asylum issues. in fact, focusing on asylum issues. in fact, focusing on a regular migration. it comes as rishi sunak a scene of a tory rebellion over his flagship rwanda bill. but he still faces a battle to get it through parliament. we are also getting to crunch time for another of the prime minister's migration pledges, that is to do with the asylum backlog. so let's go live now to damian grammaticas at westminster. damian, thank you for joining. what will be scrutinised in the select hearing?— the select hearing? well, what we have is an afternoon _ the select hearing? well, what we have is an afternoon session - have is an afternoon session basically where mps on this committee will be questioning, as you say, there's two ministers and also the director general of migration and borders at the home office. what they have said in 0ffice. what they have said in advanceis 0ffice. what they have said in advance is that their questions will focus on a couple of things, first it is on this area of asylum claims, those coming to the uk seeking asylum. and particularly that rwanda policy on which there was the vote yesterday. the focus here is going to be on the actual policy and the questions around that. so is it going to act as a deterrent? now, we note that there has been quite a lot of talk that there is no evidence or little evidence that this policy itself is acting as a deterrent at the minute. so there will be focusing on that question. also questions about whether it delivers value for money. again, on that issue, mps heard just earlier in the week from the most senior civil service in the department responsible, the home office, that he could not at the minute say that there was evidence that it would deliver value for money. that could be changing in the future, but at the minute, the situation is that the minute, the situation is that the government has spent a couple hundred million and the cost is likely to go up to around 400 million. and not a single asylum seeker has been removed to rwanda. and even if they were, if the numbers removed remain in the low hundreds, that would put the cost at about £1 million per person. so the question is the mps on the committee will be asking will focus on that value for money question as well. the other thing that they also said they want to talk about is the question of the general immigration picture in the uk, and the government's policy is to try to bring down levels of migration to the uk. that was announced just a few days ago because they have reached record levels and are going to try to explore the impact of those policies are those ideas. essentially, it is about whether the scheme does what it says on the ten, and you went into the detail that there is about the fact that perhaps there is about the fact that perhaps there isn't as much evidence as the government would like about that. so what do we actually expect these home office ministers to say? what case are they likely to make during this hearing?— this hearing? well, of course there is no evidence _ this hearing? well, of course there is no evidence because _ this hearing? well, of course there is no evidence because no - this hearing? well, of course there is no evidence because no asyluml is no evidence because no asylum seekers have been sent to rwanda yet under this policy, which has been going since more than a year, early last year was when it was first brought forward. i guess what the mps will be trying to probe is the sort of assessment is that the government has made, the sort of basis for belief of why they might believe that the policy is worth pursuing. what are the impact assessments? what are the assessments? what are the assessments that have been made on how it might work in practice? what sort of benefits it might deliver. then of course the other side of it, the actual immigration to the uk, so workers coming on visas, and governors increasing the salary threshold, for example, to bring skilled workers in, by a lot i think, in that case it is increasing from about £26,000 per year to £38,000, that is what you would have to pay someone if you are bringing them in on a skilled worker visa. there will be a lot of questions about that. the impact on sectors of the economy. the impact of changes on the health and care sector comedy cast at the minute, those who are coming into work in that area could bring families, that is going to be stopped, if you are coming to work in health sector, you cannot ring family members with you. the government says that is about limiting the numbers and it will have an impact, the question for the mps will be seeking to ask ministers is where that will leave hospitals and care homes who are needing new staff. will this mean that those who might come to the uk will now look elsewhere forjobs?— might come to the uk will now look elsewhere forjobs? elsewhere for “obs? damien, looking at the elsewhere forjobs? damien, looking at the legislation _ elsewhere forjobs? damien, looking at the legislation that _ elsewhere forjobs? damien, looking at the legislation that just _ elsewhere forjobs? damien, looking at the legislation thatjust passed - at the legislation thatjust passed its first hurdle in the commons, and of course the prime minister saw off a tory rebellion in order to get it past that first hurdle, what sort of concession did he have to make so far? ., , concession did he have to make so far? ., , . ,, ., ., far? the only concession he made in fact was to — far? the only concession he made in fact was to meet _ far? the only concession he made in fact was to meet those _ far? the only concession he made in fact was to meet those who - far? the only concession he made in fact was to meet those who were - fact was to meet those who were unhappy and to suggest that he would be willing to look at possible changes, possible alterations to the legislation. there is no indication of how sort of far—reaching those would be. those who were opposed to the... conservatives who said they did not believe this legislation goes far enough, they talked a lot about the fact that they fought to the legislation was not fit for purpose and the prior minister was doing something that was not going to deliver in the event none of them voted against it. they have indicated that if he... they believe he will try to bring changes and if he will try to bring changes and if he doesn't they will bring their own changes down the line. the difficulty that they have is that at this point their numbers assembled, fewer than 30 we believe, is sort of on the cusp of what they need to cause real problems for the government down the line. will they be able to increase those numbers? are very unclear. will they be able to create real problems? not sure, but they could create a lot of noise and difficulties injanuary. but they could create a lot of noise and difficulties in january. damien, i think it and difficulties in january. damien, i think it has _ and difficulties in january. damien, i think it has actually _ and difficulties in january. damien, i think it has actuallyjust _ and difficulties in january. damien, i think it has actuallyjust begun i i think it has actuallyjust begun so we can take a listen now. we have a lot to get through today. can i welcome first of all our witnesses and i wondered if you'd like to introduce yourself to the panel. like to introduce yourself to the anel. . ~ like to introduce yourself to the anel. ., ~' ,, like to introduce yourself to the anel. ., ~' y., ., panel. thank you for extending the invitation to _ panel. thank you for extending the invitation to us. _ panel. thank you for extending the invitation to us. i— panel. thank you for extending the invitation to us. i was _ panel. thank you for extending the invitation to us. i was in _ panel. thank you for extending the invitation to us. i was in the - invitation to us. i was in the chamber— invitation to us. i was in the chamber this time last week when you were grilling the home secretary, saying _ were grilling the home secretary, saying it _ were grilling the home secretary, saying it is — were grilling the home secretary, saying it is the minister going to turn up — saying it is the minister going to turn up to— saying it is the minister going to turn up to our committee next week? i turn up to our committee next week? i was _ turn up to our committee next week? i was sitting _ turn up to our committee next week? i was sitting next to him and little to did _ i was sitting next to him and little to did i_ i was sitting next to him and little to did i think i'd be the minister, my name — to did i think i'd be the minister, my name is— to did i think i'd be the minister, my name is michael tomlinson and it is my— my name is michael tomlinson and it is my privilege to be a minister in the home — is my privilege to be a minister in the home office.— is my privilege to be a minister in the home office._ i - 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