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about the language in the text. it does not mention phase out. it does not talk about this critical decade. there's no finance on the table for low and middle—income countries to make this clean energy transition. so it's just a complete disaster of a text, and there are still a few hours left. we can definitely turn this around, but there has to be the political will and the presidency has to ensure that we get the outcome that we came here to secure. we will get the views of our panel over the next hour. joining me is our panel, amanda renteria, who was the national political director for hillary clinton's 2016 presidential campaign willjoin us in a moment. now, peterwalker, deputy political editor at the guardian. c0 p28, cop28, so much talk about phasing out fossil fuels we get the text a couple of hours ago and it's not in there. do you make of it? fitter couple of hours ago and it's not in there. do you make of it? after were ve , ve there. do you make of it? after were very. very strange — there. do you make of it? after were very, very strange things. _ there. do you make of it? after were very, very strange things. i've - there. do you make of it? after were very, very strange things. i've only i very, very strange things. i've only been _ very, very strange things. i've only been 226 _ very, very strange things. i've only been 226 which was the one in the uk that i've _ been 226 which was the one in the uk that i've been to other summits of leaders _ that i've been to other summits of leaders get the text at the end but cops _ leaders get the text at the end but cops are _ leaders get the text at the end but cops are different leaders get the text at the end but cops are different things. partly it to see _ cops are different things. partly it to see the — cops are different things. partly it to see the leaders wandering around but also _ to see the leaders wandering around but also to— to see the leaders wandering around but also to go on so long. it's a process— but also to go on so long. it's a process that builds up for months and must — process that builds up for months and must be people who understand it, colleagues of mine who is a nice of them, _ it, colleagues of mine who is a nice of them, never quite know where they are going _ of them, never quite know where they are going to— of them, never quite know where they are going to get because they could suddenly— are going to get because they could suddenly seem likely going really badly— suddenly seem likely going really badly and did you get this amazing text _ badly and did you get this amazing text over— badly and did you get this amazing text. over in this case, there is a lot of— text. over in this case, there is a lot of about — text. over in this case, there is a lot of about this one and it goes to pieces _ lot of about this one and it goes to pieces. there is still some time left _ pieces. there is still some time left the — pieces. there is still some time left. the obvious point to make is that there — left. the obvious point to make is that there is no payment to baeza fossil— that there is no payment to baeza fossil fuels in a meaningful way, and we — fossil fuels in a meaningful way, and we are — fossil fuels in a meaningful way, and we are not going to get to the magic— and we are not going to get to the magic of— and we are not going to get to the magic of limiting global warming to 1.5. magic of limiting global warming to 15 so _ magic of limiting global warming to 1.5. so there is an awful lot to play for~ — 1.5. so there is an awful lot to play for. it's quite difficult with c0ps _ play for. it's quite difficult with cops because the guy was so long almost _ cops because the guy was so long almost forget how high the stakes of this is— almost forget how high the stakes of this is a _ almost forget how high the stakes of this is a really volatile and basically for the world. you mentioned _ basically for the world. you mentioned how _ basically for the world. you mentioned how long - basically for the world. wm. mentioned how long they go on. it is due to end tomorrow but they actually can extend these deadlines. initially movable. let's speak to amanda renteria, if she is there and here is. good to see you, amanda. what you think of this development at cop28 over the last few hours? i at cop28 over the last few hours? i think this is very much the energy we have _ think this is very much the energy we have been— think this is very much the energy we have been seeing _ think this is very much the energy we have been seeing here - think this is very much the energy we have been seeing here moving forward _ we have been seeing here moving forward and — we have been seeing here moving forward and so _ we have been seeing here moving forward and so it's— we have been seeing here moving forward and so it's not— we have been seeing here moving forward and so it's not too- forward and so it's not too surprising, _ forward and so it's not too surprising, especially- forward and so it's not too surprising, especially as l forward and so it's not too. surprising, especially as the conversations— surprising, especially as the conversations here - surprising, especially as the conversations here about i surprising, especially as the l conversations here about the importance _ conversations here about the importance of— conversations here about the importance of what - conversations here about the importance of what we're - conversations here about the . importance of what we're going conversations here about the - importance of what we're going to do going _ importance of what we're going to do going forward — importance of what we're going to do going forward in— importance of what we're going to do going forward in the _ importance of what we're going to do going forward in the global— importance of what we're going to do going forward in the global economyl going forward in the global economy and has _ going forward in the global economy and has built— going forward in the global economy and has built up— going forward in the global economy and has built up locations _ going forward in the global economy and has built up locations also - going forward in the global economy and has built up locations also for i and has built up locations also for this administration— and has built up locations also for this administration in _ and has built up locations also for this administration in their - this administration in their leadership— this administration in their leadership overseas- this administration in their leadership overseas as - this administration in theirl leadership overseas as well this administration in their. leadership overseas as well is this administration in their - leadership overseas as well is a very— leadership overseas as well is a very key— leadership overseas as well is a very key item _ leadership overseas as well is a very key item not _ leadership overseas as well is a very key item not only - leadership overseas as well is a very key item not only in - leadership overseas as well is a very key item not only in the i very key item not only in the selection _ very key item not only in the selection of— very key item not only in the selection of the _ very key item not only in the selection of the public - very key item not only in the selection of the public about| selection of the public about involved _ selection of the public about involved and _ selection of the public about involved and engaged - selection of the public about involved and engaged as - selection of the public about involved and engaged as we | selection of the public about - involved and engaged as we think of the end _ involved and engaged as we think of the end of— involved and engaged as we think of the end of the — involved and engaged as we think of the end of the election _ involved and engaged as we think of the end of the election cycle - involved and engaged as we think of the end of the election cycle gear. the end of the election cycle gear in the _ the end of the election cycle gear in the us— the end of the election cycle gear in the us in— the end of the election cycle gear in the us in 24. this— the end of the election cycle gear in the us in 24. this conversation and movement— in the us in 24. this conversation and movement is— in the us in 24. this conversation and movement is to _ in the us in 24. this conversation and movement is to be _ in the us in 24. this conversation and movement is to be really- and movement is to be really important _ and movement is to be really important here _ and movement is to be really important here as _ and movement is to be really important here as president. and movement is to be really- important here as president biden enters _ important here as president biden enters an— important here as president biden enters an election _ important here as president biden enters an election cycle _ important here as president biden enters an election cycle in - important here as president biden enters an election cycle in the - important here as president biden enters an election cycle in the usi enters an election cycle in the us and 24 _ enters an election cycle in the us and 24 this _ enters an election cycle in the us and 24. this conversation - enters an election cycle in the us and 24. this conversation and - and 24. this conversation and movement— and 24. this conversation and movement to _ and 24. this conversation and movement to be _ and 24. this conversation and movement to be really - and 24. this conversation and . movement to be really important and 24. this conversation and - movement to be really important here as president— movement to be really important here as president biden _ movement to be really important here as president biden enters _ movement to be really important here as president biden enters an- as president biden enters an election— as president biden enters an election cycle _ as president biden enters an election cycle and _ as president biden enters an election cycle and we - as president biden enters an election cycle and we begin. as president biden enters an. election cycle and we begin to as president biden enters an- election cycle and we begin to talk to a lot _ election cycle and we begin to talk to a lot of— election cycle and we begin to talk to a lot of younger _ election cycle and we begin to talk to a lot of younger generations - election cycle and we begin to talkl to a lot of younger generations who are tuned _ to a lot of younger generations who are tuned into— to a lot of younger generations who are tuned into this _ to a lot of younger generations who are tuned into this conversation - to a lot of younger generations who are tuned into this conversation asl are tuned into this conversation as well _ are tuned into this conversation as well. , ., ., . ,, well. peter, 'ust one final quick thou~ht well. peter, 'ust one final quick thought for— well. peter, just one final quick thought for you _ well. peter, just one final quick thought for you on _ well. peter, just one final quick thought for you on this. - well. peter, just one final quick thought for you on this. we - well. peter, just one final quickl thought for you on this. we have heard from island nation alliance is speaking out say this is their future effectively. that really visceral anger that these words are not strong enough and the very real feeling from them that this will be a failure. it feeling from them that this will be a failure. , ., , , , a failure. it is for me, yes. this is one of— a failure. it is for me, yes. this is one of the — a failure. it is for me, yes. this is one of the most _ a failure. it is for me, yes. this is one of the most interesting l is one of the most interesting things— is one of the most interesting things about going to a cop is he going _ things about going to a cop is he going to — things about going to a cop is he going to these massive international offence. _ going to these massive international offence. it— going to these massive international offence, it tends to be just leaders from _ offence, it tends to be just leaders from the _ offence, it tends to be just leaders from the big patients who were the ones to— from the big patients who were the ones to listen to. i recall at cop26 listening _ ones to listen to. i recall at cop26 listening to — ones to listen to. i recall at cop26 listening to the pacific island nations— listening to the pacific island nations to speak and they have as much _ nations to speak and they have as much protein time as anyone else and there _ much protein time as anyone else and there is— much protein time as anyone else and there is this _ much protein time as anyone else and there is this incredibly visceral political— there is this incredibly visceral political message which says this incredibly visceral political message which says that he says if you and _ message which says that he says if you and those in the spring now do something. — you and those in the spring now do something, then our nations will not exist in— something, then our nations will not exist in a _ something, then our nations will not exist in a matter of years. it has been _ exist in a matter of years. it has been incredibly powerful message to tec and _ been incredibly powerful message to tec and it _ been incredibly powerful message to tec and it does put people on. but you most— tec and it does put people on. but you most amazing thing is it has not been _ you most amazing thing is it has not been enough to get as much is needed to be done _ been enough to get as much is needed to be done as is done. and who knows, — to be done as is done. and who knows, cop28 might pull out of the ba l knows, cop28 might pull out of the bag things not working currently very good. bag things not working currently ve aood. . ~ bag things not working currently ve aood. ., ,, i. bag things not working currently ve aood. ., ,, bag things not working currently ve aood. . ~' , bag things not working currently ve aood. ., ~' , . very good. thank you both very much for that and — very good. thank you both very much for that and we _ very good. thank you both very much for that and we are _ very good. thank you both very much for that and we are back— very good. thank you both very much for that and we are back with - very good. thank you both very much for that and we are back with you - very good. thank you both very much for that and we are back with you a i for that and we are back with you a little later. now the israel—gaza war. first, the situation on the ground. khan younis, israeli tanks reached the main north—south road there. while in the north of gaza, take a look. this is the jabalia refugee camp. staff at the al awda hospital say they're under siege. a person difficult testimony from people trapped there. jason lee is the country director in the occupied palestinian territory for charity save the children, and he's told me about the worsening situation. the conditions in rafah are getting worse. as they are throughout all of the gaza strip. with the increased military offensive in khan younis, the population once again is being forced to move south. and these are people that had already moved to khan younis on the premise of being safe. rafah cannot accommodate the hundreds of thousands of civilians that once again will be homeless. there is not enough access to shelter. there is no room to accommodate them. there isn't enough infrastructure, access to food, to water, to sanitation, and critically, the health system is on the brink of collapse. let's go straight back to the panel. the us played an absolutely crucial role at the moment with that veto at the un security council.— the un security council. yeah, and this is becoming _ the un security council. yeah, and this is becoming a _ the un security council. yeah, and this is becoming a bigger - the un security council. yeah, and| this is becoming a bigger discussion here in— this is becoming a bigger discussion here in the — this is becoming a bigger discussion here in the states _ this is becoming a bigger discussion here in the states as _ this is becoming a bigger discussion here in the states as well— this is becoming a bigger discussion here in the states as well is - this is becoming a bigger discussion here in the states as well is how - here in the states as well is how can we _ here in the states as well is how can we do— here in the states as well is how can we do more _ here in the states as well is how can we do more for— here in the states as well is how can we do more for the - here in the states as well is how can we do more for the militaryl here in the states as well is how i can we do more for the military in a, but _ can we do more for the military in a, but it— can we do more for the military in a, but it is— can we do more for the military in a, but it is a — can we do more for the military in a, but it is a very— can we do more for the military in a, but it is a very balanced - can we do more for the military in a, but it is a very balanced block. a, but it is a very balanced block right— a, but it is a very balanced block right now— a, but it is a very balanced block right now that _ a, but it is a very balanced block right now that this _ a, but it is a very balanced block right now that this is _ a, but it is a very balanced block right now that this is an - a, but it is a very balanced block. right now that this is an expression is play— right now that this is an expression is play as— right now that this is an expression is play as trying _ right now that this is an expression is play as trying to _ right now that this is an expression is play as trying to figure _ right now that this is an expression is play as trying to figure out - right now that this is an expression is play as trying to figure out how i is play as trying to figure out how to make — is play as trying to figure out how to make sure _ is play as trying to figure out how to make sure that _ is play as trying to figure out how to make sure that israel- is play as trying to figure out how to make sure that israel has - is play as trying to figure out how to make sure that israel has the i to make sure that israel has the ability— to make sure that israel has the ability to— to make sure that israel has the ability to keep _ to make sure that israel has the ability to keep itself _ to make sure that israel has the ability to keep itself safe - to make sure that israel has the ability to keep itself safe and at| ability to keep itself safe and at the same — ability to keep itself safe and at the same time _ ability to keep itself safe and at the same time making - ability to keep itself safe and at the same time making sure - ability to keep itself safe and at the same time making sure to. ability to keep itself safe and at - the same time making sure to have military— the same time making sure to have military and — the same time making sure to have military and eight. _ the same time making sure to have military and eight. so _ the same time making sure to have military and eight. so what - the same time making sure to have military and eight. so what you're l military and eight. so what you're beginning — military and eight. so what you're beginning to _ military and eight. so what you're beginning to see _ military and eight. so what you're beginning to see is— military and eight. so what you're beginning to see is a _ military and eight. so what you're beginning to see is a lot - beginning to see is a lot more conversations _ beginning to see is a lot more conversations from _ beginning to see is a lot more conversations from domesticl beginning to see is a lot more - conversations from domestic leaders here trving _ conversations from domestic leaders here trying to — conversations from domestic leaders here trying to explain _ conversations from domestic leaders here trying to explain the _ here trying to explain the complicated _ here trying to explain the complicated position - here trying to explain the complicated position in l here trying to explain the i complicated position in the here trying to explain the - complicated position in the states in his— complicated position in the states in his hand — complicated position in the states in his hand and _ complicated position in the states in his hand and at _ complicated position in the states in his hand and at the _ complicated position in the states in his hand and at the same - complicated position in the states in his hand and at the same timel in his hand and at the same time understanding _ in his hand and at the same time understanding how— in his hand and at the same time understanding how can _ in his hand and at the same time understanding how can we - in his hand and at the same time understanding how can we applyl in his hand and at the same time - understanding how can we apply more pressure _ understanding how can we apply more pressure in _ understanding how can we apply more pressure in order— understanding how can we apply more pressure in order to _ understanding how can we apply more pressure in order to do _ understanding how can we apply more pressure in order to do what - understanding how can we apply more pressure in order to do what is - pressure in order to do what is right— pressure in order to do what is right at— pressure in order to do what is right at this _ pressure in order to do what is right at this moment, - pressure in order to do what is. right at this moment, especially pressure in order to do what is - right at this moment, especially as conditions — right at this moment, especially as conditions that— right at this moment, especially as conditions that need _ right at this moment, especially as conditions that need to _ right at this moment, especially as conditions that need to worsen. . right at this moment, especially asl conditions that need to worsen. and what we're — conditions that need to worsen. and what we're seeing _ conditions that need to worsen. and what we're seeing all— conditions that need to worsen. and what we're seeing all of _ conditions that need to worsen. and what we're seeing all of the - conditions that need to worsen. and what we're seeing all of the screen. what we're seeing all of the screen is really— what we're seeing all of the screen is really affecting _ what we're seeing all of the screen is really affecting only— what we're seeing all of the screen is really affecting only how - what we're seeing all of the screen is really affecting only how peoplel is really affecting only how people are thinking — is really affecting only how people are thinking about _ is really affecting only how people are thinking about what _ is really affecting only how people are thinking about what is - is really affecting only how people i are thinking about what is happening overseas, _ are thinking about what is happening overseas, but — are thinking about what is happening overseas, but really— are thinking about what is happening overseas, but really foreign - are thinking about what is happening overseas, but really foreign policy. overseas, but really foreign policy in real— overseas, but really foreign policy in real time — overseas, but really foreign policy in real time as _ overseas, but really foreign policy in real time as well. _ overseas, but really foreign policy in real time as well.— overseas, but really foreign policy in real time as well. in realtime as well. and, peter, at that us security — in realtime as well. and, peter, at that us security council— in realtime as well. and, peter, at that us security council vote - in realtime as well. and, peter, at that us security council vote that i | that us security council vote that i mentioned the america of and stood with israel, the uk abstained. that's a reasonable summary of what the uk _ that's a reasonable summary of what the uk is _ that's a reasonable summary of what the uk is doing at the moment. the uk is _ the uk is doing at the moment. the uk is trying — the uk is doing at the moment. the uk is trying to tacked to the mission _ uk is trying to tacked to the mission in a certain extent within the context— mission in a certain extent within the context of the uk voice does not matter— the context of the uk voice does not matter quite so much but it's very difficult _ matter quite so much but it's very difficult because the government excess _ difficult because the government excess obviously what happened on october _ excess obviously what happened on october the 7th was actually a policy— october the 7th was actually a policy and israel, they say, has a right— policy and israel, they say, has a right to _ policy and israel, they say, has a right to fight back. but there is a lot of— right to fight back. but there is a lot of political pressure coming on both conservative and peas and particularly labour mps people seeing — particularly labour mps people seeing the things of what is taking place _ seeing the things of what is taking place now— seeing the things of what is taking place now and the fact that you have this very— place now and the fact that you have this very heavy area where about 80% of population are longer able to live with — of population are longer able to live with them only with his coming is inherent — live with them only with his coming is inherent refugee camp, but the question— is inherent refugee camp, but the question is— is inherent refugee camp, but the question is i've noticed put the call of— question is i've noticed put the call of politicians in the uk more and more — call of politicians in the uk more and more is not so much has israel had a _ and more is not so much has israel had a right— and more is not so much has israel had a right to do this you know i was too — had a right to do this you know i was too that's being asked but basically— was too that's being asked but basically what is the planned? is a political— basically what is the planned? is a political strategy to do this? is there — political strategy to do this? is there a — political strategy to do this? is there a way out? at the moment that is for— there a way out? at the moment that is for the _ there a way out? at the moment that is for the difficult question for british— is for the difficult question for british politicians to answer if i don't _ british politicians to answer if i don't think the israelis have those answers— don't think the israelis have those answers yet. and basically the longer— answers yet. and basically the longer it— answers yet. and basically the longer it goes on from there might not be _ longer it goes on from there might not be a _ longer it goes on from there might not be a cease—fire for a couple of weeks _ not be a cease—fire for a couple of weeks at the least public pressure on british— weeks at the least public pressure on british politicians will get a great — on british politicians will get a great deal greater. interesting to contrast that _ great deal greater. interesting to contrast that this _ great deal greater. interesting to contrast that this week _ great deal greater. interesting to contrast that this week with - great deal greater. interesting to contrast that this week with the l great deal greater. interesting to i contrast that this week with the us, amanda come over public pressure for additionally has been very much as the us has already expressed in support on the international stage for israel. i want to come back to what you raised, this idea of getting more aid in. jason who i spoke to there was frank given the fighting that's going on, but yes, more trucks of a deal in and of course will help, but in his view frankly only a cease—fire would allow enough aid in to get the people up and down gaza. and that's part of the real problem if you're trying to get more radiant while also supporting his real�*s right to go after hamas, and you have charities on the ground say those two things right now are not possible at the same time. yes, this is very difficult. _ possible at the same time. yes, this is very difficult, so _ possible at the same time. yes, this is very difficult, so i _ possible at the same time. yes, this is very difficult, so i will— possible at the same time. yes, this is very difficult, so i will say - possible at the same time. yes, this is very difficult, so i will say in - is very difficult, so i will say in the us— is very difficult, so i will say in the us there _ is very difficult, so i will say in the us there is _ is very difficult, so i will say in the us there is a _ is very difficult, so i will say in the us there is a growing - is very difficult, so i will say in. the us there is a growing divide is very difficult, so i will say in - the us there is a growing divide in what _ the us there is a growing divide in what he _ the us there is a growing divide in what he receives _ the us there is a growing divide in what he receives relationally. - the us there is a growing divide in what he receives relationally. so i what he receives relationally. so what _ what he receives relationally. so what is _ what he receives relationally. so what is true _ what he receives relationally. so what is true political— what he receives relationally. so what is true political it _ what he receives relationally. so what is true political it is- what he receives relationally. so what is true political it is a - what he receives relationally. so what is true political it is a very. what is true political it is a very tight— what is true political it is a very tight relationship— what is true political it is a very tight relationship with - what is true political it is a very tight relationship with israel, . what is true political it is a very i tight relationship with israel, but you're _ tight relationship with israel, but you're beginning _ tight relationship with israel, but you're beginning to— tight relationship with israel, but you're beginning to see - tight relationship with israel, but you're beginning to see a - tight relationship with israel, but you're beginning to see a new. you're beginning to see a new generation— you're beginning to see a new generation with _ you're beginning to see a new generation with different - generation with different perspectives— generation with different perspectives to - generation with different perspectives to this - generation with differentj perspectives to this from generation with different. perspectives to this from an entirely— perspectives to this from an entirely different _ perspectives to this from an i entirely different distribution. social— entirely different distribution. social media _ entirely different distribution. social media has _ entirely different distribution. social media has allowed - entirely different distribution. . social media has allowed people entirely different distribution. - social media has allowed people to move _ social media has allowed people to move into — social media has allowed people to move into or— social media has allowed people to move into or seeing _ social media has allowed people to move into or seeing what _ social media has allowed people to move into or seeing what is- move into or seeing what is happening _ move into or seeing what is happening in— move into or seeing what is happening in gaza, - move into or seeing what is happening in gaza, and - move into or seeing what is| happening in gaza, and that move into or seeing what is- happening in gaza, and that really is changing — happening in gaza, and that really is changing the _ happening in gaza, and that really is changing the conversation - happening in gaza, and that really is changing the conversation not i is changing the conversation not 'ust is changing the conversation not just in— is changing the conversation not just in the — is changing the conversation not just in the us _ is changing the conversation not just in the us but _ is changing the conversation not just in the us but actually - is changing the conversation not just in the us but actually in the j just in the us but actually in the halls _ just in the us but actually in the halls of— just in the us but actually in the halls of congress _ just in the us but actually in the halls of congress where - just in the us but actually in the halls of congress where you - just in the us but actually in the halls of congress where you are | halls of congress where you are seeing — halls of congress where you are seeing a — halls of congress where you are seeing a generational— halls of congress where you are seeing a generational shift- halls of congress where you are seeing a generational shift and| seeing a generational shift and divide — seeing a generational shift and divide right— seeing a generational shift and divide right now— seeing a generational shift and divide right now as _ seeing a generational shift and divide right now as people - seeing a generational shift and divide right now as people arei divide right now as people are talking — divide right now as people are talking about _ divide right now as people are talking about what _ divide right now as people are talking about what are - divide right now as people are talking about what are the - divide right now as people are. talking about what are the next steps — talking about what are the next steps so — talking about what are the next steps so as _ talking about what are the next steps. so as this _ talking about what are the next steps. so as this goes - talking about what are the next steps. so as this goes on, - talking about what are the next steps. so as this goes on, i- talking about what are the next i steps. so as this goes on, i think you will— steps. so as this goes on, i think you will begin _ steps. so as this goes on, i think you will begin to _ steps. so as this goes on, i think you will begin to see _ steps. so as this goes on, i think you will begin to see more - steps. so as this goes on, i thinkl you will begin to see more critical pressure — you will begin to see more critical pressure coming _ you will begin to see more critical pressure coming from _ you will begin to see more critical pressure coming from a _ you will begin to see more critical pressure coming from a new- pressure coming from a new generation— pressure coming from a new generation sav— pressure coming from a new generation say what - pressure coming from a new generation say what is - pressure coming from a new. generation say what is america prospect — generation say what is america prospect role _ generation say what is america prospect role in _ generation say what is america prospect role in the _ generation say what is america prospect role in the military. generation say what is america | prospect role in the military and crisis _ prospect role in the military and crisis and — prospect role in the military and crisis and when _ prospect role in the military and crisis and when does _ prospect role in the military and crisis and when does it - prospect role in the military and crisis and when does it make . prospect role in the military and i crisis and when does it make sense to push— crisis and when does it make sense to push israel— crisis and when does it make sense to push israel harder— crisis and when does it make sense to push israel harder and _ crisis and when does it make sense to push israel harder and this- crisis and when does it make sense to push israel harder and this was. to push israel harder and this was a ship with— to push israel harder and this was a ship with israel— to push israel harder and this was a ship with israel a _ to push israel harder and this was a ship with israel a little _ to push israel harder and this was a ship with israel a little bit— to push israel harder and this was a ship with israel a little bit harder. ship with israel a little bit harder as well? — ship with israel a little bit harder as well? . ~ ship with israel a little bit harder as well? ., ,, , ., ship with israel a little bit harder as well? ., ,, i. ship with israel a little bit harder as well? . ~' ,, , ship with israel a little bit harder as well? ., ,, , . as well? thank you both very much for that. stay with us. this is bbc news. quite a day for the uk prime minister with questions from the cover inquiry and about his new room on the regression bill from several parts of his own party. look at what it means. the ukrainian president is in washington he will try to persuade her to provide the latest military and financial aid package which is become deadlocked in congress. and barbie and oppenheimer leave the nominations at the going clothes. stay with us. let's look at some other stories making news. the three people who tortured, starved and beat to death a woman from west london have been found guilty of her murder. shakira spencer was 35 when she was driven back to her flat in a car boot by people she had once believed to be friends in september. the uk's health security agency warns that longer and warmer summers could increase the risk of mosquitoes becoming established in the uk. the insects can spread diseases including dengue fever and zika virus. the report is based on a worst—case scenario temperature increase of four degrees celsius. prince harry has to pay more than £48,000 in legal costs to the publishers of the mail on sunday after losing part of his libel battle. his lawyers failed to strike out part of a defence against a claim he is bringing against the newspaper relating to an article about his security arrangements. you are alive with bbc news. here in the uk, the covid inquiry looking into how political decisions were made during the pandemic is continuing. today, it was the turn of british prime minister rishi sunak to answer the questions. he began by apologising to everyone who lost loved ones during the pandemic. rishi sunak, who was chancellor at the time, has been accused by some of putting the economy before lives. the main criticism centres around his month—long eat out to help out scheme in august 2020. diners received 50% off meals out on mondays, tuesdays and wednesdays subsidised by the government. at the time, rishi sunak said it would protectjobs in the hospitality industry and boost the economy, but one analysis suggests the benefit to the industry was comparatively small compared to other measures. the scheme started in august and covid cases began to rise again in september, but we don't know for certain why. here's mr sunak speaking today. my primary concern was protecting millions ofjobs of particularly vulnerable people who worked in this industry. all the data, all the evidence, all the polling, all the input from those companies suggested that unless we did something, many of those jobs would have been at risk with devastating consequences for those people and their families. and that's why independent think tanks had recommended doing something like this, indeed other countries had done something like this, because everyone was grappling with the same issue, of how to ensure that those jobs are safeguarded because people have returned. that was the primary driver for what we were doing. back to the panel. what do you think that we learned from this appearance before the inquiry? the that we learned from this appearance before the inquiry?— before the inquiry? the funny thing is we did not _ before the inquiry? the funny thing is we did not actually _ before the inquiry? the funny thing is we did not actually learn - before the inquiry? the funny thing is we did not actually learn all- is we did not actually learn all that— is we did not actually learn all that much from him. i think rishi sunak— that much from him. i think rishi sunak was— that much from him. i think rishi sunak was out there with his delivery— sunak was out there with his delivery plan to not create a headline _ delivery plan to not create a headline at a time when politics or headline at a time when politics or he was _ headline at a time when politics or he was already quite tricky. he is falling _ he was already quite tricky. he is falling out — he was already quite tricky. he is falling out with the left of the conservative party and the right of the conservative party over other things. _ the conservative party over other things, overthe integration plans, and he's _ things, overthe integration plans, and he's probably already had a very difficult _ and he's probably already had a very difficult week. the last thing he did was— difficult week. the last thing he did was to spend six hours being questioned in minute detail about one of— questioned in minute detail about one of the — questioned in minute detail about one of the leading lawyers in the countrv — one of the leading lawyers in the country. and he was defending this role that— country. and he was defending this role that he had given particularly the eat— role that he had given particularly the eat out to help out scheme is sometimes strange ways. a lot of his testimony— sometimes strange ways. a lot of his testimony involved in the question of certain— testimony involved in the question of certain meetings and comments people _ of certain meetings and comments people said and responding to his grasp— people said and responding to his grasp of— people said and responding to his grasp of is— people said and responding to his grasp of is extremely good. he was often _ grasp of is extremely good. he was often saying i cannot member or don't _ often saying i cannot member or don't know— often saying i cannot member or don't know or don't recall and it felt like — don't know or don't recall and it felt like he _ don't know or don't recall and it felt like he was trying to play guite — felt like he was trying to play quite a — felt like he was trying to play quite a long view of not saying too much _ quite a long view of not saying too much of _ quite a long view of not saying too much of wanting to clock out while still defending this very difficult but we — still defending this very difficult but we did have because his ministerial role at the time was not one of— ministerial role at the time was not one of the — ministerial role at the time was not one of the health focused one. it was one — one of the health focused one. it was one about how you get economic matters _ was one about how you get economic matters kind of meeting and going. and he _ matters kind of meeting and going. and he had — matters kind of meeting and going. and he had had a bit of a patient visits— and he had had a bit of a patient visits during the process i wasjust thinking about different death that he was _ thinking about different death that he was supposedly given. and he pushed _ he was supposedly given. and he pushed back quite strongly against that, but— pushed back quite strongly against that, but he was quite difficult and quite _ that, but he was quite difficult and quite kind — that, but he was quite difficult and quite kind of control that i think at the _ quite kind of control that i think at the end — quite kind of control that i think at the end of it reimbursed without any major— at the end of it reimbursed without any major new headlines being made and what _ any major new headlines being made and what he wanted.— and what he wanted. there are headlines _ and what he wanted. there are headlines surrounding - and what he wanted. there are headlines surrounding him - and what he wanted. there are headlines surrounding him on | and what he wanted. there are - headlines surrounding him on mission will come to un a moment as you alluded to. amanda, what do you make of this in the us of the covid inquiry and the experience in the us? is inquiry and the experience in the us? , , , .., , inquiry and the experience in the us? , , , , ., us? is quite interesting because of ou make us? is quite interesting because of you make those — us? is quite interesting because of you make those decisions - us? is quite interesting because of you make those decisions at - us? is quite interesting because of you make those decisions at the i you make those decisions at the time, _ you make those decisions at the time, the — you make those decisions at the time, the context— you make those decisions at the time, the context is— you make those decisions at the time, the context is totally- time, the context is totally different— time, the context is totally different than— time, the context is totally different than how - time, the context is totally different than how peoplel time, the context is totally- different than how people view it now _ different than how people view it now it's — different than how people view it now it's sleazy— different than how people view it now. it's sleazy politicians - now. it's sleazy politicians including _ now. it's sleazy politicians including in _ now. it's sleazy politicians including in the _ now. it's sleazy politicians including in the us, - now. it's sleazy politicians - including in the us, presidential candidate — including in the us, presidential candidate like rhonda _ including in the us, presidential candidate like rhonda santos, i including in the us, presidential. candidate like rhonda santos, try including in the us, presidential- candidate like rhonda santos, try to figure _ candidate like rhonda santos, try to figure out _ candidate like rhonda santos, try to figure out how — candidate like rhonda santos, try to figure out how to _ candidate like rhonda santos, try to figure out how to actually— candidate like rhonda santos, try to figure out how to actually use - candidate like rhonda santos, try to figure out how to actually use what. figure out how to actually use what he did _ figure out how to actually use what he did during — figure out how to actually use what he did during that— figure out how to actually use what he did during that time _ figure out how to actually use what he did during that time to - figure out how to actually use what he did during that time to benefit i he did during that time to benefit his provincial— he did during that time to benefit his provincial campaign _ he did during that time to benefit his provincial campaign but- he did during that time to benefit his provincial campaign but the l his provincial campaign but the context— his provincial campaign but the context is— his provincial campaign but the context is entirely _ his provincial campaign but the context is entirely different. in| context is entirely different. in some — context is entirely different. in some cases _ context is entirely different. in some cases people _ context is entirely different. in some cases people actually. context is entirely different. in i some cases people actually view context is entirely different. in - some cases people actually view it as a bad _ some cases people actually view it as a bad thing _ some cases people actually view it as a bad thing in— some cases people actually view it as a bad thing in other— some cases people actually view it as a bad thing in other cases- some cases people actually view it as a bad thing in other cases it - some cases people actually view it| as a bad thing in other cases it was as a bad thing in other cases it was a long _ as a bad thing in other cases it was a long time — as a bad thing in other cases it was a long time ago— as a bad thing in other cases it was a long time ago and nobody- as a bad thing in other cases it was| a long time ago and nobody putting more _ a long time ago and nobody putting more talk— a long time ago and nobody putting more talk about _ a long time ago and nobody putting more talk about that. _ a long time ago and nobody putting more talk about that. and - a long time ago and nobody putting more talk about that. and so - a long time ago and nobody putting more talk about that. and so i - a long time ago and nobody putting | more talk about that. and so i think covid-19 _ more talk about that. and so i think covid-19 is — more talk about that. and so i think covid-19 is very— more talk about that. and so i think covid—19 is very complicated - covid—19 is very complicated piece to talk_ covid—19 is very complicated piece to talk about — covid—19 is very complicated piece to talk about because _ covid—19 is very complicated piece to talk about because our- covid—19 is very complicated piece to talk about because our lives - covid—19 is very complicated piece i to talk about because our lives have changed _ to talk about because our lives have changed because _ to talk about because our lives have changed because people _ to talk about because our lives have changed because people feel- to talk about because our lives have changed because people feel like i to talk about because our lives have| changed because people feel like we are stilt— changed because people feel like we are still recovering _ changed because people feel like we are still recovering from _ changed because people feel like we are still recovering from you - are still recovering from you and others _ are still recovering from you and others feet. _ are still recovering from you and others feel, the _ are still recovering from you and others feel, the validity - are still recovering from you and others feel, the validity of - are still recovering from you and others feel, the validity of the l others feel, the validity of the decisions _ others feel, the validity of the decisions we _ others feel, the validity of the decisions we do _ others feel, the validity of the decisions we do different - others feel, the validity of the | decisions we do different place others feel, the validity of the - decisions we do different place now. so it does— decisions we do different place now. so it does make _ decisions we do different place now. so it does make it— decisions we do different place now. so it does make it very— decisions we do different place now. so it does make it very complicatedi so it does make it very complicated and i think— so it does make it very complicated and i thihkthe_ so it does make it very complicated and i think the best _ so it does make it very complicated and i think the best case _ so it does make it very complicated and i think the best case here - so it does make it very complicated and i think the best case here is- so it does make it very complicated and i think the best case here is to| and i think the best case here is to realty— and i think the best case here is to really stay— and i think the best case here is to really stay out _ and i think the best case here is to really stay out of the _ and i think the best case here is to really stay out of the headlines - really stay out of the headlines when _ really stay out of the headlines when you — really stay out of the headlines when you are _ really stay out of the headlines when you are not _ really stay out of the headlines when you are not sure - really stay out of the headlines when you are not sure how - really stay out of the headlines when you are not sure how the i really stay out of the headlines - when you are not sure how the public is going _ when you are not sure how the public is going to _ when you are not sure how the public is going to interpret— when you are not sure how the public is going to interpret what _ when you are not sure how the public is going to interpret what you - when you are not sure how the public is going to interpret what you did - is going to interpret what you did at a time — is going to interpret what you did at a time that _ is going to interpret what you did at a time that is— is going to interpret what you did at a time that is so— is going to interpret what you did at a time that is so different - is going to interpret what you didi at a time that is so different than today _ at a time that is so different than toda . �* . . ., ~ at a time that is so different than toda .�* . . . ~ at a time that is so different than toda .~ . . . ~ ., at a time that is so different than toda .�* . . . ~ ., . today. amanda, thank you for that. as we alluded _ today. amanda, thank you for that. as we alluded to _ today. amanda, thank you for that. as we alluded to just _ today. amanda, thank you for that. as we alluded to just there, - sunak left the covid inquiry, headed just there, back towards downing street. more questions tonight about his rwanda bill. the pan is get people who arrive in uk on small boats to be put on planes to rwanda. this attempt to make it happen has too many holes in it, say one group of conservative mps. a vote on tuesday, which is tomorrow. john west at the political view. where do you think this is the one that bill stands this evening? genuinely no one seems to know. there _ genuinely no one seems to know. there is— genuinely no one seems to know. there is a — genuinely no one seems to know. there is a suspicion that with the complicated public preprocessor have to -o complicated public preprocessor have to go through the next step on tuesday— to go through the next step on tuesdayis to go through the next step on tuesday is second reading, which confusingly is the first time and please — confusingly is the first time and please get the chance to vote on it. every _ please get the chance to vote on it. every eye _ please get the chance to vote on it. every eye is — please get the chance to vote on it. every eye is going to be on how many conservative — every eye is going to be on how many conservative mps of staying open usuatty _ conservative mps of staying open usually vote against it. at the time it does— usually vote against it. at the time it does not— usually vote against it. at the time it does not look like there will be able to— it does not look like there will be able to put it down. you need about 20 acres _ able to put it down. you need about 20 acres we — able to put it down. you need about 20 acres we had for that to take place and — 20 acres we had for that to take place and it looks like it will probably hold fire and then try and amend _ probably hold fire and then try and amend the bill later on during the political— amend the bill later on during the political process. but the problem is that— political process. but the problem is that the — political process. but the problem is that the government is saying you cannot— is that the government is saying you cannot amend the bill because if you change _ cannot amend the bill because if you change it— cannot amend the bill because if you change it so— cannot amend the bill because if you change it so it subverts human rights — change it so it subverts human rights laws, then the whole deal will fatt— rights laws, then the whole deal will fall to pieces. and at the same time you've — will fall to pieces. and at the same time you've got conservative mps in the centre _ time you've got conservative mps in the centre of the party who will accept — the centre of the party who will accept that. so tuesday is going to be a realty— accept that. so tuesday is going to be a really fascinating day and it's starting _ be a really fascinating day and it's starting to — be a really fascinating day and it's starting to feel quite a lot like brexit— starting to feel quite a lot like brexit and of 2017 or 2018 atiemwen theresa _ brexit and of 2017 or 2018 atiemwen theresa may's government could not -et theresa may's government could not get anything for it because there was this— get anything for it because there was this impasse. people on the bricks— was this impasse. people on the bricks inside saying one thing people — bricks inside saying one thing people notice of the party also not budget _ people notice of the party also not budget. do people notice of the party also not budaet. ,, ,, , budget. do you think this is high-stakes _ budget. do you think this is high-stakes is _ budget. do you think this is high-stakes is that - budget. do you think this is - high-stakes is that potentially? yes and no. high-stakes is that potentially? yes and n0- it's — high—stakes is that potentially? yes and no. it's not got the salience of brexit. trut— and no. it's not got the salience of brexit, but if an early election was going _ brexit, but if an early election was going to _ brexit, but if an early election was going to be — brexit, but if an early election was going to be prompted, this will be the reason — going to be prompted, this will be the reason and it's because rishi sunak— the reason and it's because rishi sunak has— the reason and it's because rishi sunak has made a big issue of it if you can _ sunak has made a big issue of it if you can see — sunak has made a big issue of it if you can see on the lectern. he put stop the _ you can see on the lectern. he put stop the boats on it. he has made it work— stop the boats on it. he has made it work for— stop the boats on it. he has made it work for me — stop the boats on it. he has made it work for me for those with a relatively— work for me for those with a relatively minor issue for the most dominant— relatively minor issue for the most dominant issue of the time period and the _ dominant issue of the time period and the problem is this it is almost impossible — and the problem is this it is almost impossible to stop. so when it redant — impossible to stop. so when it redant on his own back. and we have two opposing sides of the party who will not _ two opposing sides of the party who will not easily give ground so it's very hard — will not easily give ground so it's very hard to see where he goes from here _ very hard to see where he goes from here. �* . . very hard to see where he goes from here. �* , , ., , here. but be sure to 'ust lay inside the conservative — here. but be sure to just lay inside the conservative party _ here. but be sure to just lay inside the conservative party to - here. but be sure to just lay inside the conservative party to view - here. but be sure to just lay inside the conservative party to view this| the conservative party to view this as an issue that voters will care about. in him being a team to try to do things to avoid is of little calculation that he hopes will benefit him.— calculation that he hopes will benefit him. , . �* , benefit him. yes, that's true, it certainly conservative - benefit him. yes, that's true, it certainly conservative motors i benefit him. yes, that's true, it i certainly conservative motors care more _ certainly conservative motors care more about — certainly conservative motors care more about it than labour but that's partly— more about it than labour but that's partly because it's been such a focus — partly because it's been such a focus because basically the numbers of people _ focus because basically the numbers of people across the channel has been _ of people across the channel has been able — of people across the channel has been able to be happy what a long time _ been able to be happy what a long time but— been able to be happy what a long time. but in the pre—covid—19 era before _ time. but in the pre—covid—19 era before security checks of the french ports _ before security checks of the french ports were — before security checks of the french ports were beefed up, there were 'ust ports were beefed up, there were just usually sneaking underneath for his or— just usually sneaking underneath for his or her— just usually sneaking underneath for his or her any more is not this visibte — his or her any more is not this visible thing with small boats when returning _ visible thing with small boats when returning above each visibility has gotten _ returning above each visibility has gotten a _ returning above each visibility has gotten a lot more obvious, but for the prime — gotten a lot more obvious, but for the prime minister, he has to get this political commission the deputy goes. _ this political commission the deputy goes. he _ this political commission the deputy goes. he is — this political commission the deputy goes, he is physically appealing to his core _ goes, he is physically appealing to his core and perhaps people who might— his core and perhaps people who might you — his core and perhaps people who might you note vote for other right—wing groups. but the labour voters. _ right—wing groups. but the labour voters, anyway bring putter noticing that one _ voters, anyway bring putter noticing that one attempt over, the potentially that we care about this as i potentially that we care about this as i said _ potentially that we care about this as i said before, this is an incredibly— as i said before, this is an incredibly complicated and multifaceted international problem that you _ multifaceted international problem that you cannot solve it in the year that you cannot solve it in the year that he _ that you cannot solve it in the year that he has— that you cannot solve it in the year that he has got.— that he has got. let's go to amanda on 'ust that he has got. let's go to amanda on just that. — that he has got. let's go to amanda on just that. in _ that he has got. let's go to amanda on just that, in immigration - onjust that, in immigration incredibly international and multifaceted problem. you know something about that there in the us. , ., ~ �* , . . ., us. yes, we do. and it's an election cominu us. yes, we do. and it's an election coming on — us. yes, we do. and it's an election coming on in _ us. yes, we do. and it's an election coming up in what _ us. yes, we do. and it's an election coming up in what is _ us. yes, we do. and it's an election coming up in what is essential - coming up in what is essential again? — coming up in what is essential again? immigration. - coming up in what is essential again? immigration. what- coming up in what is essential again? immigration. what are coming up in what is essential. again? immigration. what are we sitting _ again? immigration. what are we sitting on— again? immigration. what are we sitting on our— again? immigration. what are we sitting on our screens? _ again? immigration. what are we sitting on our screens? again - again? immigration. what are we| sitting on our screens? again with pictures— sitting on our screens? again with pictures of— sitting on our screens? again with pictures of what _ sitting on our screens? again with pictures of what arborg _ sitting on our screens? again with pictures of what arborg looks - sitting on our screens? again with| pictures of what arborg looks like. so this— pictures of what arborg looks like. so this has— pictures of what arborg looks like. so this has been _ pictures of what arborg looks like. so this has been since _ pictures of what arborg looks like. so this has been since 2016 wheni pictures of what arborg looks like. i so this has been since 2016 when the president— so this has been since 2016 when the president waltzed _ so this has been since 2016 when the president waltzed down _ so this has been since 2016 when the president waltzed down and - so this has been since 2016 when the president waltzed down and read - president waltzed down and read introduce — president waltzed down and read introduce a — president waltzed down and read introduce a key _ president waltzed down and read introduce a key target _ president waltzed down and read introduce a key target and - president waltzed down and read introduce a key target and that l introduce a key target and that has continued — introduce a key target and that has continued to — introduce a key target and that has continued to really _ introduce a key target and that has continued to really solidify- introduce a key target and that has continued to really solidify the - continued to really solidify the republican _ continued to really solidify the republican party. _ continued to really solidify the republican party. and - continued to really solidify the republican party. and you're i republican party. and you're beginning _ republican party. and you're beginning to _ republican party. and you're beginning to see _ republican party. and you're beginning to see governors i republican party. and you're i beginning to see governors who republican party. and you're - beginning to see governors who were border— beginning to see governors who were border states — beginning to see governors who were border states also— beginning to see governors who were border states also what _ beginning to see governors who were border states also what you - beginning to see governors who were border states also what you as - beginning to see governors who were border states also what you as of- border states also what you as of this conversation— border states also what you as of this conversation continues i border states also what you as of this conversation continues to i border states also what you as of| this conversation continues to get intense _ this conversation continues to get intense at this _ this conversation continues to get intense at this period _ this conversation continues to get intense at this period of - this conversation continues to get intense at this period of time i this conversation continues to get intense at this period of time and | intense at this period of time and we too _ intense at this period of time and we too are — intense at this period of time and we too are stuck— intense at this period of time and we too are stuck in _ intense at this period of time and we too are stuck in a _ intense at this period of time and we too are stuck in a shutdown i intense at this period of time and i we too are stuck in a shutdown like no where _ we too are stuck in a shutdown like no where ukraine _ we too are stuck in a shutdown like no where ukraine funding - we too are stuck in a shutdown like | no where ukraine funding over what we are _ no where ukraine funding over what we are going — no where ukraine funding over what we are going to— no where ukraine funding over what we are going to do— no where ukraine funding over what we are going to do with _ no where ukraine funding over what we are going to do with our- no where ukraine funding over what we are going to do with our borderi we are going to do with our border on a regression _ we are going to do with our border on a regression. so— we are going to do with our border on a regression. so once - we are going to do with our border on a regression. so once again- we are going to do with our border. on a regression. so once again feels like this— on a regression. so once again feels like this is— on a regression. so once again feels like this is something _ on a regression. so once again feels like this is something that— on a regression. so once again feels like this is something that we are i like this is something that we are always— like this is something that we are always talking _ like this is something that we are always talking about _ like this is something that we are always talking about and - like this is something that we are always talking about and yet i like this is something that we are i always talking about and yet never do anything — always talking about and yet never do anything to _ always talking about and yet never do anything to truly— always talking about and yet never do anything to truly build - always talking about and yet never do anything to truly build and i always talking about and yet neveri do anything to truly build and have a policy— do anything to truly build and have a policy that— do anything to truly build and have a policy that we _ do anything to truly build and have a policy that we are _ do anything to truly build and have a policy that we are to _ do anything to truly build and have a policy that we are to move i do anything to truly build and have i a policy that we are to move forward with an _ a policy that we are to move forward with an immigration _ a policy that we are to move forward with an immigration but also - a policy that we are to move forward with an immigration but also just i a policy that we are to move forward with an immigration but alsojust so| with an immigration but alsojust so the body— with an immigration but alsojust so the body itself— with an immigration but alsojust so the body itself can _ with an immigration but alsojust so the body itself can move _ with an immigration but alsojust so the body itself can move forward. i the body itself can move forward. you mentioned _ the body itself can move forward. you mentioned ukraine _ the body itself can move forward. you mentioned ukraine there. i the body itself can move forward. i you mentioned ukraine there. let's talk about that. ukraine's president zelensky has flown to washington, where he'll try to persuade political leaders to revive the latest military and financial aid package, which has become deadlocked in congress. republicans in the us senate want more spending on america's own border security before they will approve the $61 billion deal, which would also provide assistance to israel and humanitarian aid to gaza. the us has been ukraine's biggest supporter since the russian invasion, but the current help is set to expire at the end of the year. let's go straight back to amanda. so what is going on here?— what is going on here? you're beginning _ what is going on here? you're beginning to _ what is going on here? you're beginning to see _ what is going on here? you're beginning to see the - what is going on here? you'rei beginning to see the congress what is going on here? you're i beginning to see the congress as we get to— beginning to see the congress as we get to the _ beginning to see the congress as we get to the end — beginning to see the congress as we get to the end of— beginning to see the congress as we get to the end of the year, - beginning to see the congress as we get to the end of the year, there i beginning to see the congress as we get to the end of the year, there is. get to the end of the year, there is always— get to the end of the year, there is always something _ get to the end of the year, there is always something you _ get to the end of the year, there is always something you to _ get to the end of the year, there is always something you to that i get to the end of the year, there is always something you to that very| always something you to that very last deadline. _ always something you to that very last deadline. a— always something you to that very last deadline. a lot _ always something you to that very last deadline. a lot of _ always something you to that very last deadline. a lot of publicans i last deadline. a lot of publicans are using — last deadline. a lot of publicans are using for— last deadline. a lot of publicans are using for leverage _ last deadline. a lot of publicans are using for leverage for- last deadline. a lot of publicans are using for leverage for the i last deadline. a lot of publicans are using for leverage for the of talking — are using for leverage for the of talking about _ are using for leverage for the of talking about how— are using for leverage for the of talking about how to _ are using for leverage for the of talking about how to solve i are using for leverage for the of talking about how to solve the i talking about how to solve the border — talking about how to solve the border crisis _ talking about how to solve the border crisis and _ talking about how to solve the border crisis and frankly- talking about how to solve the border crisis and frankly are i talking about how to solve the i border crisis and frankly are also putting _ border crisis and frankly are also putting on— border crisis and frankly are also putting on the _ border crisis and frankly are also putting on the radar— border crisis and frankly are also putting on the radar that - border crisis and frankly are also putting on the radar that we i border crisis and frankly are also putting on the radar that we are | putting on the radar that we are going _ putting on the radar that we are going to — putting on the radar that we are going to talk _ putting on the radar that we are going to talk about _ putting on the radar that we are going to talk about immigration| putting on the radar that we are i going to talk about immigration in the 24 _ going to talk about immigration in the 24 election, _ going to talk about immigration in the 24 election, now _ going to talk about immigration in the 24 election, now is _ going to talk about immigration in the 24 election, now is a - going to talk about immigration in the 24 election, now is a time i going to talk about immigration in| the 24 election, now is a time that that gets _ the 24 election, now is a time that that gets set — the 24 election, now is a time that that gets set into _ the 24 election, now is a time that that gets set into place. _ the 24 election, now is a time that that gets set into place. so - the 24 election, now is a time that that gets set into place. so what i that gets set into place. so what you're _ that gets set into place. so what you're seeing _ that gets set into place. so what you're seeing is— that gets set into place. so what you're seeing is how— that gets set into place. so what you're seeing is how is _ that gets set into place. so what you're seeing is how is this- that gets set into place. so what you're seeing is how is this bill. you're seeing is how is this bill going — you're seeing is how is this bill going to — you're seeing is how is this bill going to pass— you're seeing is how is this bill going to pass and _ you're seeing is how is this bill going to pass and all— you're seeing is how is this bill going to pass and all forces i you're seeing is how is this bill. going to pass and all forces trying to really— going to pass and all forces trying to really do— going to pass and all forces trying to really do right _ going to pass and all forces trying to really do right by— going to pass and all forces trying to really do right by ukraine, i going to pass and all forces trying| to really do right by ukraine, right now what's— to really do right by ukraine, right now what's happening, _ to really do right by ukraine, right now what's happening, coming - to really do right by ukraine, right| now what's happening, coming out to really do right by ukraine, right. now what's happening, coming out as a little _ now what's happening, coming out as a little circuit— now what's happening, coming out as a little circuit but _ now what's happening, coming out as a little circuit but also _ now what's happening, coming out as a little circuit but also having - a little circuit but also having zelensky— a little circuit but also having zelensky come _ a little circuit but also having zelensky come in _ a little circuit but also having zelensky come in to - a little circuit but also having zelensky come in to talk - a little circuit but also having i zelensky come in to talk about himselt— zelensky come in to talk about himself will— zelensky come in to talk about himself will be _ zelensky come in to talk about himself will be an _ zelensky come in to talk about himself will be an important. zelensky come in to talk about - himself will be an important piece. especially— himself will be an important piece. especially because _ himself will be an important piece. especially because the _ himself will be an important piece. especially because the criticism - especially because the criticism they hear— especially because the criticism they hear hearing _ especially because the criticism they hear hearing from - especially because the criticism. they hear hearing from publicans i’i l ht they hear hearing from publicans right now — they hear hearing from publicans right now is _ they hear hearing from publicans right now is we _ they hear hearing from publicans right now is we cannot _ they hear hearing from publicans right now is we cannot give - they hear hearing from publicans right now is we cannot give a - they hear hearing from publicans l right now is we cannot give a blank check _ right now is we cannot give a blank check we — right now is we cannot give a blank check we need _ right now is we cannot give a blank check. we need to _ right now is we cannot give a blank check. we need to know— right now is we cannot give a blank check. we need to know what - check. we need to know what ukraine is going _ check. we need to know what ukraine is going to _ check. we need to know what ukraine is going to do — check. we need to know what ukraine is going to do this— check. we need to know what ukraine is going to do this monday. _ check. we need to know what ukraine is going to do this monday. another. is going to do this monday. another person— is going to do this monday. another person to _ is going to do this monday. another person to deliver— is going to do this monday. another person to deliver that _ is going to do this monday. another person to deliver that message - is going to do this monday. another person to deliver that message that the ukraine — person to deliver that message that the ukraine president _ person to deliver that message that the ukraine president himself. - person to deliver that message that the ukraine president himself. he’s| the ukraine president himself. he's a owerful the ukraine president himself. a powerful spokesperson. the ukraine president himself. high: a powerful spokesperson. how the ukraine president himself.- a powerful spokesperson. how would you rate the republican opposition? is it something that is significant for relatively small but loud? how would you characterise it? it is would you characterise it? it is small but _ would you characterise it? it is small but loud _ would you characterise it? it is small but loud in _ would you characterise it? it is small but loud in the - would you characterise it? it is small but loud in the senate and it is quite _ small but loud in the senate and it is quite mild — small but loud in the senate and it is quite mild in— small but loud in the senate and it is quite mild in the _ small but loud in the senate and it is quite mild in the house, - is quite mild in the house, and therein— is quite mild in the house, and thereih lies _ is quite mild in the house, and therein lies the _ is quite mild in the house, and therein lies the problem. - is quite mild in the house, and therein lies the problem. we . is quite mild in the house, and . therein lies the problem. we need is quite mild in the house, and - therein lies the problem. we need to figure _ therein lies the problem. we need to figure out— therein lies the problem. we need to figure out how— therein lies the problem. we need to figure out how does _ therein lies the problem. we need to figure out how does assist _ therein lies the problem. we need to figure out how does assist me - therein lies the problem. we need to figure out how does assist me for- figure out how does assist me for of the house _ figure out how does assist me for of the house that— figure out how does assist me for of the house that has— figure out how does assist me for of the house that has certain - figure out how does assist me for of| the house that has certain pressures on him _ the house that has certain pressures on him that— the house that has certain pressures on him that are _ the house that has certain pressures on him that are quite _ the house that has certain pressures on him that are quite oriented - on him that are quite oriented aqaihst — on him that are quite oriented against this— on him that are quite oriented against this kind _ on him that are quite oriented against this kind of _ on him that are quite oriented against this kind of funding i on him that are quite oriented . against this kind of funding work on him that are quite oriented - against this kind of funding work to put it— against this kind of funding work to put it in— against this kind of funding work to put it in a _ against this kind of funding work to put it in a different _ against this kind of funding work to put it in a different way, _ against this kind of funding work to put it in a different way, they- against this kind of funding work to put it in a different way, they want| put it in a different way, they want a lot of— put it in a different way, they want a lot of money— put it in a different way, they want a lot of money for— put it in a different way, they want a lot of money for the border, - put it in a different way, they wanti a lot of money for the border, loss of political — a lot of money for the border, loss of political power— a lot of money for the border, loss of political power to _ a lot of money for the border, loss of political power to be _ a lot of money for the border, loss of political power to be talking - of political power to be talking about — of political power to be talking about immigration— of political power to be talking about immigration in- of political power to be talking about immigration in the - of political power to be talking about immigration in the us. i of political power to be talking l about immigration in the us. he of political power to be talking - about immigration in the us. he is making _ about immigration in the us. he is making his — about immigration in the us. he is making his own— about immigration in the us. he is making his own kind _ about immigration in the us. he is making his own kind of— about immigration in the us. he is making his own kind of platform i about immigration in the us. he is i making his own kind of platform and branch, _ making his own kind of platform and branch, and — making his own kind of platform and branch, and i— making his own kind of platform and branch, and i think— making his own kind of platform and branch, and i think what _ making his own kind of platform and branch, and i think what you - making his own kind of platform and branch, and i think what you will- branch, and i think what you will seek— branch, and i think what you will seek is— branch, and i think what you will seek is last—minute, _ branch, and i think what you will seek is last—minute, our, - branch, and i think what you will seek is last—minute, our, finally| seek is last—minute, our, finally getting — seek is last—minute, our, finally getting a — seek is last—minute, our, finally getting a deal— seek is last—minute, our, finally getting a deal past _ seek is last—minute, our, finally getting a deal past because - seek is last—minute, our, finally. getting a deal past because there seek is last—minute, our, finally- getting a deal past because there is a lot wrapped — getting a deal past because there is a lot wrapped up _ getting a deal past because there is a lot wrapped up irr— getting a deal past because there is a lot wrapped up in this _ getting a deal past because there is a lot wrapped up in this ukrainian, i a lot wrapped up in this ukrainian, the only— a lot wrapped up in this ukrainian, the only messaging _ a lot wrapped up in this ukrainian, the only messaging but _ the only messaging but immigration is a topic— the only messaging but immigration is a topic qoihq _ the only messaging but immigration is a topic going forward _ the only messaging but immigration is a topic going forward in _ the only messaging but immigration is a topic going forward in 2024 - the only messaging but immigration is a topic going forward in 2024 for. is a topic going forward in 2024 for the party — is a topic going forward in 2024 for the -a . , �* , the party. interesting. peter, let's come for the _ the party. interesting. peter, let's come for the international- the party. interesting. peter, let's| come for the international element here because can to leave support is actually vital for ukraine's more effort but is notjust the us, it's the uk, that he was well. it is effort but is notjust the us, it's the uk, that he was well. it is very much and the _ the uk, that he was well. it is very much and the uk _ the uk, that he was well. it is very much and the uk has _ the uk, that he was well. it is very much and the uk has had - the uk, that he was well. it is very much and the uk has had quite an| much and the uk has had quite an important — much and the uk has had quite an important role in this world to be speakihq — important role in this world to be speaking. when borisjohnson was in charge, _ speaking. when borisjohnson was in charge, he _ speaking. when borisjohnson was in charge, he very much nailed his colours — charge, he very much nailed his colours to— charge, he very much nailed his colours to the ukrainian maths that has become the sort of maximum of uk policy— has become the sort of maximum of uk policy in _ has become the sort of maximum of uk policy in the _ has become the sort of maximum of uk policy in the last couple of years from _ policy in the last couple of years from troth— policy in the last couple of years from both sides of the political spectrum. that you support ukraine and we _ spectrum. that you support ukraine and we ought to get as much is we possibly— and we ought to get as much is we possibly can, and for the conservatives this is quite a thing because _ conservatives this is quite a thing because if— conservatives this is quite a thing because if the republicans and particularly if donald trump is president and move away from that, that's— president and move away from that, that's quite — president and move away from that, that's quite difficult for them because _ that's quite difficult for them because the two parties are normally allied _ because the two parties are normally allied quite closely. this would be very serious of a split and you have done _ very serious of a split and you have done this— very serious of a split and you have done this thing we have also with a more _ done this thing we have also with a more populist right parties in europe — more populist right parties in europe like hungary and things like that are _ europe like hungary and things like that are starting to edge away from this road _ that are starting to edge away from this road ukraine line. and so britain — this road ukraine line. and so britain is _ this road ukraine line. and so britain is not part of an important role in _ britain is not part of an important role in keeping the you on—site for this and _ role in keeping the you on—site for this and the — role in keeping the you on—site for this and the russians, this is almost — this and the russians, this is almost a _ this and the russians, this is almost a sign that you the sense that they— almost a sign that you the sense that they canjust almost a sign that you the sense that they can just visibly play the lon- that they can just visibly play the long game and hope people will get in the _ long game and hope people will get in the power to molest up on this and they— in the power to molest up on this and they get what they want. who is back with our _ and they get what they want. who is back with our panelists _ and they get what they want. who is back with our panelists and - and they get what they want. who is back with our panelists and a - back with our panelists and a moment where in the little things we will get their thoughts on the barbie movie. that's what i'm here for. this is bbc news. hello there, good evening. well, following two named storms over the weekend, elin and fergus, then it was a much quieter day of weather today, with lots of blue sky and sunshine around, such as here in staffordshire as captured by one of our weather watchers. but looking very different again tomorrow. it's all change. back to long spells of rain, particularly through the morning, strong, gusty winds, and blustery heavy showers throughout the afternoon for many of us, all courtesy of another area of low pressure that will be swinging its way in from the south—west, pushing northwards and eastwards through tonight and into tomorrow morning. it will bring some heavy downpours of rain across northern ireland, particularly counties down and armagh. as we go through the overnight period, that rain sweeping across wales and england towards southern scotland, north—east england by the time we get into tuesday morning itself. a brief frost towards eastern counties, but temperatures will rise again with the approaching cloud and the rain. and this is how we'll start off tuesday morning, so temperatures well above freezing. strong, gusty winds towards irish sea coasts and down through the channel, as well. there'll be some heavy rain for a time across east lothian, fife and down through north—east england. the main rain band will start to clear, but there'll be plenty of showers just swirling around this area of low pressure. some of the showers heavy and thundery, particularly towards the south and the west. but the air is mild, temperatures peaking between 7—13 degrees celsius, the snow levels dropping a little across scotland, so here, we could see some wintry showers just over the highest peaks. now, as we head through tuesday night into wednesday, well, our area of low pressure pulls away to the near continent, so we're starting off wednesday with a hang back of cloud. still a brisk easterly wind for north sea—facing coasts, a few morning showers, a brightening process from the west, but also some colder—feeling air along with a north—westerly wind. for most, 3—9 degrees celsius. we look out towards the north and the west to find this band of rain pushing eastwards as we head through wednesday night, briefly turning to snow before turning quite quickly back to rain. we could see some very transitory snow across the scottish mountains and the pennines for a time, but that rain will be clearing as we head through thursday morning. so, again, another improving picture from the west. so turning a lot drier as we head through the day on thursday. high pressure then builds in from the south as we head through friday, and that should keep us largely dry as we head through the rest of the week. but it will stay quite windy. still some rain towards the north and the west. bye—bye for now. hello, i'm lewis vaughanjones. you're watching the context on bbc news. barbenheimer goes on.

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