structures— moment to shore up the internal structures of the building that will enable _ structures of the building that will enable the investigation to take place. _ enable the investigation to take place, but it is a very difficult situation _ place, but it is a very difficult situation within that building. having — situation within that building. having said that, fire crews have been _ having said that, fire crews have been able — having said that, fire crews have been able to prevent any more damage to that _ been able to prevent any more damage to that raw— been able to prevent any more damage to that row of houses. all been able to prevent any more damage to that row of houses.— to that row of houses. all members five peeple — to that row of houses. all members five peeple who _ to that row of houses. all members five people who lost _ to that row of houses. all members five people who lost their _ to that row of houses. all members five people who lost their life - five people who lost their life members of the same family? taste members of the same family? we believe that at this time. we are not looking for anyone else at this time and we are keeping an open mind as to this incident, this very tragic incident.— as to this incident, this very tragic incident. how many of the five peeple _ tragic incident. how many of the five people were _ tragic incident. how many of the five people were children? - tragic incident. how many of the | five people were children? three tragic incident. how many of the i five people were children? three of the five were _ five people were children? three of the five were children. _ five people were children? three of the five were children. there - five people were children? three of the five were children. there were l the five were children. there were seven peeple _ the five were children. there were seven peeple in — the five were children. there were seven people in the _ the five were children. there were seven people in the house - the five were children. there were seven people in the house at - the five were children. there were seven people in the house at the i seven people in the house at the time, _ seven people in the house at the time, one — seven people in the house at the time, one person who escaped before you arrived, _ time, one person who escaped before you arrived, fifa passed away and one unaccounted for. were all seven part of— one unaccounted for. were all seven part of the _ one unaccounted for. were all seven part of the same family? | one unaccounted for. were all seven part of the same family?— part of the same family? i can't comment _ part of the same family? i can't comment on — part of the same family? i can't comment on all— part of the same family? i can't comment on all seven - part of the same family? i can't comment on all seven at - part of the same family? i can't comment on all seven at this i part of the same family? i can't - comment on all seven at this time, i'm sorry. that comment on all seven at this time, i'm sor . �* ., , i'm sorry. at the moment it is too difficult to — i'm sorry. at the moment it is too difficult to tell — i'm sorry. at the moment it is too difficult to tell that _ i'm sorry. at the moment it is too difficult to tell that because - i'm sorry. at the moment it is too difficult to tell that because we i difficult to tell that because we are stitt— difficult to tell that because we are still having to make sure, we are still having to make sure, we are stitt— are still having to make sure, we are still shoring up inside the property. _ are still shoring up inside the property. once we are able to do that we _ property. once we are able to do that we will be able to see if escape — that we will be able to see if escape routes were blocked. at the moment, _ escape routes were blocked. at the moment, the damage inside the building — moment, the damage inside the building is too severe for us to be able to— building is too severe for us to be able to make that assessment. for the time _ able to make that assessment. for the time being, untilthe investigation is played out and we have the — investigation is played out and we have the specialist resources into the building, it is too early to speculate. at the moment, we can't comment— speculate. at the moment, we can't comment any further until the investigation has concluded thing then we — investigation has concluded thing then we will be able to provide that detait _ then we will be able to provide that detait do _ then we will be able to provide that detail. , ., then we will be able to provide that detail. i. ~ ., then we will be able to provide that detail. , ., ~ ., ., then we will be able to provide that detail. i. ~ ., ., ., , detail. do you know who owns the ro -e ? detail. do you know who owns the property? did _ detail. do you know who owns the property? did the _ detail. do you know who owns the property? did the family - detail. do you know who owns the property? did the family own - detail. do you know who owns the property? did the family own it, l detail. do you know who owns the property? did the family own it, ai property? did the family own it, a landlord? i property? did the family own it, a landlord? . ., ., . ., ., landlord? i have no information on the ownership _ landlord? i have no information on the ownership of _ landlord? i have no information on the ownership of the _ landlord? i have no information on the ownership of the property. - landlord? i have no information on| the ownership of the property. how are the firefighters? all of the emergency services he attended the scene _ emergency services he attended the scene were faced with an horrific situation~ — scene were faced with an horrific situation. we have counselling services — situation. we have counselling services available to all of our crew — services available to all of our crew and _ services available to all of our crew and i_ services available to all of our crew and i would like to give my gratitude — crew and i would like to give my gratitude to all of the people who were able to assist in what was a tragic and — were able to assist in what was a tragic and terrible incident. there you have at a news conference on that fire enhanced low. they say three of those people who died were children, they said they were unable to give us details of the edges of the children. it is a very difficult time for the family members of those who died, but also for the local area. it was a house fire in hounslow. many of the reporters asked the police afterwards if they are any closer to establishing a cause of the fire. they say that they are keeping an open mind on that at the moment. a little update doubt that we got on that house fire in hounslow in west london. we will bring you more on that as and when we get it. let's go back to our main story, and live in downing street for what has been a very busy morning here. it began with the sacking of the home secretary, suella braverman. now we have a new home secretary, james cleverly, who has left the foreign office. the foreign office, the new entrance is david cameron. of course, the former british prime minister. a bit of a surprise to see him back. he has taken a relatively back seat when it has come to politics since he has left downing street. now he is back in the front line. he has one of the great offices of state as foreign secretary. i'mjoined offices of state as foreign secretary. i'm joined now by giles canning him, who used to be an adviser to david cameron and help run his former election campaign. he know mr cameron very well. what do you think its calculations where when it came to accepting thatjob and returning to front line politics? and returning to front line olitics? and returning to front line politics?— and returning to front line olitics? . , ., and returning to front line -olitics? . . ., politics? he always wanted to return to ublic politics? he always wanted to return to public life. _ politics? he always wanted to return to public life, wanted _ politics? he always wanted to return to public life, wanted a _ politics? he always wanted to return to public life, wanted a role - politics? he always wanted to return to public life, wanted a role in - to public life, wanted a role in public life, believe the public service but felt after the brexit referendum which was incredibly polarising that he needed to step back. it has now been seven years since that referendum. it would be on the ballot paper at the next election. i think he has a lot to offer. he could be that wise voice around the table. he will somewhat provide the role that william hague provided to him when he was foreign secretary, i expect he will do the similarjob for rishi sunak. he is a team player, he has high levels of emotional intelligence. i think he will be a big asset to the government. i will be a big asset to the government.— will be a big asset to the government. will be a big asset to the covernment. ., �* ,, ., �* government. i don't know if you're still in regular— government. i don't know if you're still in regular contact _ government. i don't know if you're still in regular contact with - government. i don't know if you're still in regular contact with mr - still in regular contact with mr cameron or not, giles, but do you think this was months in the making, something he was pushing for? i something he was pushing for? i don't know about timelines, but i think a lot of people recognise within tory circles that he still had a lot to give public life when he left office and i suspect this is him wanting him still to contribute. we need a statesman on the world stage, someone who has had a lot of experience of world affairs at an incredible rocky, difficult time. i think he will have a lot to offer. no doubt i expect you will see him on the airwaves quite a lot in the run—up to the election which could be six months to a year away. there are some who _ be six months to a year away. there are some who take _ be six months to a year away. there are some who take the _ be six months to a year away. there are some who take the country - be six months to a year away. there are some who take the country view that it are some who take the country view thatitis are some who take the country view that it is an old face and it doesn't really represent an evolving and changing party to simply bring back a former prime minister, not least the prime minister had to quit because the campaign he supported to remain didn't actually succeed. the government — remain didn't actually succeed. tie: government needs someone remain didn't actually succeed. ti2 government needs someone who has almost unprecedented levels of experience. they need that wise counsel. of course, it is politics so you will not please all of the people all of the time and some people all of the time and some people will not be happy with this appointment, but i will reinforce that he is a team player, he has led a party, he has been an election winner and i think he brings a lot more to the table. rishi sunak will admit that calculation. he does lead admit that calculation. he does lead a party which is a series of delicate coalitions and they will have to think about how this plays out in westminster with the party. he is obviously made the calculation that the pros outweigh the cons. that is something i agree with. he will not be one of these former prime ministers sniping from the sidelines, since he left office he has kept his counsel. he has only intervened on certain issues and not intervened on certain issues and not in a way to undermine the government. he will put his differences aside and be a team player. differences aside and be a team -la er. ~ . ., differences aside and be a team .la err ., ., “ differences aside and be a team -la er. ~ . ,, player. what do you think he can brin: to player. what do you think he can bring to the _ player. what do you think he can bring to the foreign _ player. what do you think he can bring to the foreign office? - player. what do you think he can bring to the foreign office? of. bring to the foreign office? of course, he is used to travelling internationally, he has led delegations around the world, he knows foreign leaders, but what's do you think he can add to the mix? ihe you think he can add to the mix? he has you think he can add to the mix? h2 has immense experience on the world stage, will know some of these leaders, was well respected on the stage. he knows the different dynamics at play. we are going through an unprecedented period. geopolitics is very rocky. he will be a studying voice. britain needs to assure that it is asserting itself on the world stage and assuring that while we are going through this each period of disruption that we remain one of the big players around the table. i think he has that person and will be that person, have that dialogue with people who can open doors, but also bring with it a huge amount of experience. bring with it a huge amount of exoerience-— bring with it a huge amount of experience. bring with it a huge amount of exerience. ~ . ., ,, . experience. what do you think about the other moves? _ experience. what do you think about the other moves? you _ experience. what do you think about the other moves? you have - experience. what do you think about the other moves? you have served l experience. what do you think about| the other moves? you have served in the other moves? you have served in the conservative party in a number of rules. what about the move of james cleverly from the foreign office to the home office? suella braverman's _ office to the home office? suella braverman's position _ office to the home office? suella braverman's position was - office to the home office? suella l braverman's position was becoming unsustainable, the attack on the police made her position somewhat untenable and also, crucially, she was undermining the prime minister, becoming a polarising figure, at a time when we are only 12 months from the election. departure was inevitable. do you think she will be a problem on the backbenches? i think so. i have no doubt she will make noises from the backbenches and she will seek to probably undermine the government, but i don't think long—term she will necessarily be much of a problem, at all. {lilia long-term she will necessarily be much of a problem, at all. ok, giles cannina , much of a problem, at all. ok, giles canning. former— much of a problem, at all. ok, giles canning, former special _ much of a problem, at all. ok, giles canning, former special adviser - much of a problem, at all. ok, giles canning, former special adviser to l canning, former special adviser to david cameron, thank you very much for sharing your insights on this very busy morning here in westminster. of course there has been lots of activity in downing street. just about 30 seconds ago we saw stephen barclay, the health secretary, walk through the big black door. as someone who might know what that is about as chief political correspondent, henry. mr barclay going through that door, anything to read into that? i going through that door, anything to read into that?— read into that? i think we can read into it that — read into that? i think we can read into it that he — read into that? i think we can read into it that he is _ read into that? i think we can read into it that he is moving _ read into that? i think we can read into it that he is moving to - read into that? i think we can read into it that he is moving to a - read into that? i think we can read into it that he is moving to a new i into it that he is moving to a new job. that is the choreography of a reshuffle day. if somebody walks up the street, something is happening to them. he has been here for the entire time of rishi sunak. he was briefly borisjohnson's chief of staff, he was brexit secretary. he has been around the block for a while and it would seem that rishi sunak doesn't want that experience in the health department any more but he does want it in government. it will be interesting to see where he is moving too.— he is moving too. health is a big “ob, so if he is moving too. health is a big job. so if that — he is moving too. health is a big job, so if that is _ he is moving too. health is a big job, so if that is to _ he is moving too. health is a big job, so if that is to change - he is moving too. health is a big job, so if that is to change it - job, so if that is to change it could be a bigger reshuffle than we were expecting. it is could be a bigger reshuffle than we were exoecting-_ were expecting. it is one of those many areas _ were expecting. it is one of those many areas of — were expecting. it is one of those many areas of public _ were expecting. it is one of those many areas of public life - were expecting. it is one of those many areas of public life where i many areas of public life where there is a big dispute at the moment. we have seen consultants on strike recently, junior doctors strike, nurses on strike. if there is a huge stout —— is a new health secretary, that will be the biggest item in their entry. there is a general election coming up, and that is hanging over all these appointments, and you can expect nhs waiting list to be a big part of the election campaign. it'll be fascinating to see who rishi sunak will put there. that could be a big part of the election campaign, defending the government's record and asking the public to trust them with the nhs moving forward. there are no women _ with the nhs moving forward. there are no women now _ with the nhs moving forward. there are no women now in _ with the nhs moving forward. there are no women now in the _ with the nhs moving forward. there are no women now in the four- with the nhs moving forward. there are no women now in the four main offices of state.— offices of state. that has been the case for a while. _ offices of state. that has been the case for a while. a _ offices of state. that has been the case for a while. a lot _ offices of state. that has been the case for a while. a lot of— offices of state. that has been the case for a while. a lot of people i case for a while. a lot of people talking about rishi sunak possibly sacking suella braverman, that did come up before he did sack her. obviously, that will be a thing that people will talk about. i wonder if we will see rishi sunak try to promote more women to senior ranks of the government. i guess the two most senior woman in government now are the science secretary and the energy secretary. perhaps we will see a woman in the health department.— see a woman in the health department. see a woman in the health deartment. ~ ., , , . department. we saw to rhys carre earlier. department. we saw to rhys carre earlier- yes. _ department. we saw to rhys carre earlier. yes, that _ department. we saw to rhys carre earlier. yes, that was _ department. we saw to rhys carre earlier. yes, that was odd, - department. we saw to rhys carre earlier. yes, that was odd, to - department. we saw to rhys carre earlier. yes, that was odd, to sayl earlier. yes, that was odd, to say the least- — earlier. yes, that was odd, to say the least. was _ earlier. yes, that was odd, to say the least. was that _ earlier. yes, that was odd, to say the least. was that just _ earlier. yes, that was odd, to say the least. was that just a - the least. was that 'ust a random. . . ? 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