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surgeon at the al—shifa hospital. he told the bbc the situation there was desperate. here in shifa, i'm hearing the shooting and bombardment everywhere around me in shifa hospital. it's a horrible situation now, and some of the displaced people moved, evacuated from shifa because it is not a safe place to stay in it, but our staff is still there, and our patients in the department is still there, and we are taking all the casualties. today they bombarded some of our displaced people who were here in shifa, they moved to one shelter to the school, and the other school, they were under attack, and more than 15 people were killed at that moment. we've also verified this footage. it shows explosions around the indonesian hospital in northern gaza. you can hear screams and people running for cover. the palestinian red crescent says that electricity, internet and water have now been cut off and the hospital is in complete darkness. the al-quds hospital has also been left in darkness. you can see medics there operating by torchlight. electricity and fuel has run out there. the palestinian red crescent says israeli snipers have fired at the hospital. and these images show the al—rantisi paediatric hospital in gaza city, which also came under attack. it's funded by the us—based palestinian children's relief fund and is said to be the only medical facility in gaza that treats children with cancer. this footage shows israeli troops surrounding the al—rantisi hospital. witnesses say loud—hailers were being used to order anyone who wasn't medical staff or a patient to leave. this map shows the location of these hospitals, all in close vicinity in northern gaza. speaking to the bbc, a spokesman for the israel defense forces, lieutenant colonel peter lerner, confirmed its forces were there. our forces are operating around the area of al—shifa and around the area of other hospitals because hamas has chosen to strategically position their terrorist capabilities in, under and around hospitals. this is the situation currently. it has been for several days. we have been trying to encourage people taking refuge in the hospitals to evacuate. the images i'm about to show you are graphic. they show displaced palestinians who've left their homes in northern gaza, travelling by foot on the main road taking them to the south, where they've been told to go for safety. three people were killed here after an israeli strike on the road. let's hear from some of the people fleeing israeli attacks. translation: i am a resident of al-shati camp. _ no—one's left there. the bombing is indiscriminate, i targeting civilians in their homes. houses collapse - on their inhabitants. they don't spare children or women. they leave nothing i but human remains. god is enough for us and is with us. the world isjust watching us. this is humanity- and our human rights. translation: the “ourney was a tragedy. _ we walked from shifa hospital to wadi gaza. notjust me, but thousands like me, on foot. and here we are in the western part of wadi gaza. israel is just acting like it's above international law. schools are also being hit by israeli air strikes. the bbc has just verified this footage of the al—buraq school in northern gaza, where people were sheltering. gaza's health ministry says more than 11,000 palestinians have now been killed, including a500 children. the conflict began after hamas killed more than moo people in israel on october the 7th. a short while ago we heard from our gaza correspondent and our double medic correspondent injerusalem. fighting continues around the four key hospitals you mentioned it. it is the _ key hospitals you mentioned it. it is the main — key hospitals you mentioned it. it is the main hospital in gaza city, the biggest medical facility in the entire _ the biggest medical facility in the entire gaza strip, the al—shifa. the tanks _ entire gaza strip, the al—shifa. the tanks came — entire gaza strip, the al—shifa. the tanks came from four directions around — tanks came from four directions around the _ tanks came from four directions around the hospital. 0ne tanks came from four directions around the hospital. one of them is the around the hospital. 0ne of them is the treach— around the hospital. one of them is the beach camp or the al—shati camp. most who _ the beach camp or the al—shati camp. most who were in the hospital were fleeing _ most who were in the hospital were fleeing the fight from the beach camp— fleeing the fight from the beach camp yesterday and fled to the hospitai — camp yesterday and fled to the hospital. this morning there were a couple _ hospital. this morning there were a couple of— hospital. this morning there were a couple ofjournalists inside the hospital— couple ofjournalists inside the hospital and one of them filled the video— hospital and one of them filled the video that — hospital and one of them filled the video that you showed. he told me this morning that he saw an israeli drone _ this morning that he saw an israeli drone firing — this morning that he saw an israeli drone firing on the people inside the hospital. the director of the hospital— the hospital. the director of the hospital as well confirm to the bc tonight— hospital as well confirm to the bc tonight that it was an israeli drone, _ tonight that it was an israeli drone, israeli fire that killed at least _ drone, israeli fire that killed at least one — drone, israeli fire that killed at least one person and injured a couple — least one person and injured a couple of— least one person and injured a couple of people from the displaced people _ couple of people from the displaced people inside the hospital. tonight i people inside the hospital. tonight i made _ people inside the hospital. tonight i made contact with the director of the hospital again in a journalist, the hospital again in a journalist, the last— the hospital again in a journalist, the lastjournalist he remained inside — the lastjournalist he remained inside the hospital. he said they were _ inside the hospital. he said they were still— inside the hospital. he said they were still about 15,000 people taking — were still about 15,000 people taking the hospital as shelter and also hundreds of patients, some of them _ also hundreds of patients, some of them are _ also hundreds of patients, some of them are allaying in the ground and in the _ them are allaying in the ground and in the court — them are allaying in the ground and in the court or of the hospital because _ in the court or of the hospital because they say there is notice, notice _ because they say there is notice, notice in — because they say there is notice, notice in the emergency room or the operation _ notice in the emergency room or the operation room to treat these people — operation room to treat these people. very serious situation and said this _ people. very serious situation and said this medical centre, which is located _ said this medical centre, which is located in— said this medical centre, which is located in the west of gaza city futsome — located in the west of gaza city fulsome underground tanks are advancing into the heart of gaza city. _ advancing into the heart of gaza city. into — advancing into the heart of gaza city. into a _ advancing into the heart of gaza city, into a neighbourhood that is a very important place for gaza because _ very important place for gaza because most of the institutions including — because most of the institutions including the palestinian parliament, the central bank, the headquarters of the telecommunications company, also the two mobile _ telecommunications company, also the two mobile carrier headquarters, are in this— two mobile carrier headquarters, are in this place — two mobile carrier headquarters, are in this place so it's quite significant, very important for the people _ significant, very important for the people of— significant, very important for the people of gaza. also the main street is in the _ people of gaza. also the main street is in the middle of this road which is in the middle of this road which is the _ is in the middle of this road which is the main — is in the middle of this road which is the main economic hub for the gaza _ is the main economic hub for the gaza and — is the main economic hub for the gaza and most of the big companies and shops— gaza and most of the big companies and shops are there. this is in the western— and shops are there. this is in the western side — and shops are there. this is in the western side close to the al—shifa. also two _ western side close to the al—shifa. also two or— western side close to the al—shifa. also two or 35—star hotels and most of the _ also two or 35—star hotels and most of the restaurants and most of the viiias— of the restaurants and most of the villas and — of the restaurants and most of the villas and wealthy neighbourhoods are around this western side of the city. tonight, also fighting around the al-quds hospital for the people inside _ the al-quds hospital for the people inside that hospital without electricity and without internet. they— electricity and without internet. they managed to send some of the messages — they managed to send some of the messages through the radio transmission to khan younis saying there _ transmission to khan younis saying there was— transmission to khan younis saying there was some sniping and some steppers — there was some sniping and some steppers in — there was some sniping and some steppers in high positions around the hospital and they were trying to deal with— the hospital and they were trying to deal with the militants who were trying _ deal with the militants who were trying to— deal with the militants who were trying to confront israeli troops in the area — trying to confront israeli troops in the area. they have issued a statement saying they targeted israeii — statement saying they targeted israeli tanks in the area with anti-tank— israeli tanks in the area with anti—tank missiles and the situation is difficult _ anti—tank missiles and the situation is difficult and gaza city tonight. stay on — is difficult and gaza city tonight. stay on the line and let's go to paul adams injerusalem. lots of mixed messages coming from the ground when it's hard to tell what is real and what is not sometimes. israel says it does not target hospitals but it does not deny that his troops operate near to hospitals. we have seen footage of these strikes. what do we know about these strikes. what do we know about the israeli operations? weill. these strikes. what do we know about the israeli operations?— the israeli operations? well, as you heard from — the israeli operations? well, as you heard from peter— the israeli operations? well, as you heard from peter lerner— the israeli operations? well, as you heard from peter lerner a _ the israeli operations? well, as you heard from peter lerner a short - the israeli operations? well, as you | heard from peter lerner a short time a-o, heard from peter lerner a short time ago. the _ heard from peter lerner a short time ago. the israeiis _ heard from peter lerner a short time ago, the israelis believe _ heard from peter lerner a short time ago, the israelis believe in _ heard from peter lerner a short time ago, the israelis believe in publish . ago, the israelis believe in publish what they— ago, the israelis believe in publish what they say _ ago, the israelis believe in publish what they say is _ ago, the israelis believe in publish what they say is evidence - ago, the israelis believe in publish what they say is evidence that - ago, the israelis believe in publish i what they say is evidence that hamas is operating _ what they say is evidence that hamas is operating in. — what they say is evidence that hamas is operating in, note _ what they say is evidence that hamas is operating in, note near— what they say is evidence that hamas is operating in, note near or- what they say is evidence that hamas is operating in, note near or in - what they say is evidence that hamas is operating in, note near or in the i is operating in, note near or in the case _ is operating in, note near or in the case of— is operating in, note near or in the case of al—shifa _ is operating in, note near or in the case of al—shifa hospital, - case of al—shifa hospital, underneath— case of al—shifa hospital, underneath hospitals. - case of al—shifa hospital, i underneath hospitals. the case of al—shifa hospital, - underneath hospitals. the israeli argument — underneath hospitals. the israeli argument is _ underneath hospitals. the israeli argument is that, _ underneath hospitals. the israeli argument is that, yes, _ underneath hospitals. the israeli argument is that, yes, and - underneath hospitals. the israeli. argument is that, yes, and argued hospital— argument is that, yes, and argued hospital should _ argument is that, yes, and argued hospital should be _ argument is that, yes, and argued hospital should be protected - argument is that, yes, and argued| hospital should be protected under international— hospital should be protected under international law— hospital should be protected under international law but _ hospital should be protected under international law but if _ hospital should be protected under international law but if a _ hospital should be protected under international law but if a armed - international law but if a armed group _ international law but if a armed group is — international law but if a armed group is using _ international law but if a armed group is using it _ international law but if a armed group is using it for— international law but if a armed group is using it for military- group is using it for military purposes— group is using it for military purposes that _ group is using it for military purposes that it _ group is using it for military purposes that it becomes . group is using it for military purposes that it becomes a | purposes that it becomes a legitimate _ purposes that it becomes a legitimate military- purposes that it becomes a legitimate military target. i purposes that it becomes a . legitimate military target. and that's— legitimate military target. and that's what— legitimate military target. and that's what it _ legitimate military target. and that's what it become - legitimate military target. and i that's what it become inevitable that's what it become inevitable that as — that's what it become inevitable that as the _ that's what it become inevitable that as the israeli _ that's what it become inevitable that as the israeli troops - that's what it become inevitable that as the israeli troops come. that's what it become inevitable i that as the israeli troops come into gaza city. — that as the israeli troops come into gaza city. they— that as the israeli troops come into gaza city, they were _ that as the israeli troops come into gaza city, they were going - that as the israeli troops come into gaza city, they were going to- that as the israeli troops come into| gaza city, they were going to direct their attention _ gaza city, they were going to direct their attention into— gaza city, they were going to direct their attention into some _ gaza city, they were going to direct their attention into some of- gaza city, they were going to direct their attention into some of these i their attention into some of these key hospitals _ their attention into some of these key hospitals i_ their attention into some of these key hospitals. i think _ their attention into some of these key hospitals. i think what - their attention into some of these key hospitals. i think what they. their attention into some of these i key hospitals. i think what they are going _ key hospitals. i think what they are going to _ key hospitals. i think what they are going to try— key hospitals. i think what they are going to try to _ key hospitals. i think what they are going to try to do _ key hospitals. i think what they are going to try to do is _ key hospitals. i think what they are going to try to do is frankly- key hospitals. i think what they are going to try to do is frankly scared i going to try to do is frankly scared of the _ going to try to do is frankly scared of the remaining _ going to try to do is frankly scared of the remaining civilian _ going to try to do is frankly scared l of the remaining civilian population away, _ of the remaining civilian population away, to— of the remaining civilian population away. to try— of the remaining civilian population away. to try and _ of the remaining civilian population away, to try and encourage - of the remaining civilian population away, to try and encourage them . of the remaining civilian population| away, to try and encourage them to move _ away, to try and encourage them to move out— away, to try and encourage them to move out of— away, to try and encourage them to move out of gaza _ away, to try and encourage them to move out of gaza city, _ away, to try and encourage them to move out of gaza city, to _ away, to try and encourage them to i move out of gaza city, to move south so they— move out of gaza city, to move south so they can _ move out of gaza city, to move south so they can deal _ move out of gaza city, to move south so they can deal with _ move out of gaza city, to move south so they can deal with hamas - move out of gaza city, to move south so they can deal with hamas withoutl so they can deal with hamas without having _ so they can deal with hamas without having to _ so they can deal with hamas without having to be — so they can deal with hamas without having to be worried _ so they can deal with hamas without having to be worried about - so they can deal with hamas without having to be worried about the - having to be worried about the consequences _ having to be worried about the consequences of— having to be worried about the consequences of the _ having to be worried about the consequences of the civilian i consequences of the civilian population _ consequences of the civilian population. the _ consequences of the civilian population. the problem i consequences of the civilian. population. the problem now consequences of the civilian - population. the problem now is a situation — population. the problem now is a situation in — population. the problem now is a situation in gaza, _ population. the problem now is a situation in gaza, is— population. the problem now is a situation in gaza, is the - population. the problem now is a situation in gaza, is the just - population. the problem now is a situation in gaza, is the just so i situation in gaza, is the just so vividiv— situation in gaza, is the just so vividly described, _ situation in gaza, is the just so vividly described, is _ situation in gaza, is the just so vividly described, is so - situation in gaza, is the just so| vividly described, is so chaotic, so dangerous— vividly described, is so chaotic, so dangerous that _ vividly described, is so chaotic, so dangerous that i _ vividly described, is so chaotic, so dangerous that i think— vividly described, is so chaotic, so dangerous that i think people - vividly described, is so chaotic, so dangerous that i think people arel dangerous that i think people are afraid _ dangerous that i think people are afraid to — dangerous that i think people are afraid to leave. _ dangerous that i think people are afraid to leave. they— dangerous that i think people are afraid to leave. they think - dangerous that i think people are afraid to leave. they think that. dangerous that i think people are. afraid to leave. they think that the only way— afraid to leave. they think that the only way for— afraid to leave. they think that the only way for them _ afraid to leave. they think that the only way for them to _ afraid to leave. they think that the only way for them to stay - afraid to leave. they think that the only way for them to stay safe - afraid to leave. they think that the only way for them to stay safe is l afraid to leave. they think that the| only way for them to stay safe is to be close _ only way for them to stay safe is to be close to — only way for them to stay safe is to be close to those _ only way for them to stay safe is to be close to those hospitals, and i be close to those hospitals, and that is _ be close to those hospitals, and that is a — be close to those hospitals, and that is a huge _ be close to those hospitals, and that is a huge problem - be close to those hospitals, and that is a huge problem if- be close to those hospitals, and that is a huge problem if israel. be close to those hospitals, and l that is a huge problem if israel is going _ that is a huge problem if israel is going to — that is a huge problem if israel is going to carry— that is a huge problem if israel is going to carry on _ that is a huge problem if israel is going to carry on trying _ that is a huge problem if israel is going to carry on trying to - that is a huge problem if israel is. going to carry on trying to confront hamas— going to carry on trying to confront hamas in— going to carry on trying to confront hamas in and _ going to carry on trying to confront hamas in and around _ going to carry on trying to confront hamas in and around those - going to carry on trying to confront hamas in and around those areas. | hamas in and around those areas. let's _ hamas in and around those areas. let's go _ hamas in and around those areas. let's go live — hamas in and around those areas. let's go live now— hamas in and around those areas. let's go live now to _ hamas in and around those areas. let's go live now to matthew- let's go live now to matthew schmidt, and military and security analyst from the university of new havenin analyst from the university of new haven in connecticut and former professor of planning at the us military command. thank you so much for being with us. what do we know about what stage of the military operation israel is at and what it might do next with yellow some israel has moved beyond what we call the shaping stage. that's largely strategic bombing that we have seen that essentially wiped out in northern gaza and that what they are doing is trying to draw out— doing is trying to draw out hamas fiuhters doing is trying to draw out hamas fighters and _ doing is trying to draw out hamas fighters and kill— doing is trying to draw out hamas fighters and kill them. _ doing is trying to draw out hamas fighters and kill them. they - doing is trying to draw out hamas fighters and kill them. they are l doing is trying to draw out hamas l fighters and kill them. they are not even trying to capture them. so really in the second phase. haifa even trying to capture them. so really in the second phase. how one miaht really in the second phase. how one might discontinue _ really in the second phase. how one might discontinue for? _ really in the second phase. how one might discontinue for? it's - really in the second phase. how one might discontinue for? it's really - might discontinue for? it's really hard to say _ might discontinue for? it's really hard to say because _ might discontinue for? it's really hard to say because we - might discontinue for? it's really hard to say because we don't - might discontinue for? it's really. hard to say because we don't have good numbers i have many hamas fighters there are. initial numbers before this war started were about 20,000. i see numbers now that are changing to up to 30,000. we civilly don't know it as it could be a very long time. don't know it as it could be a very long time-— long time. israel has a fairly well-funded _ long time. israel has a fairly well-funded military. - long time. israel has a fairly| well-funded military. hamas long time. israel has a fairly i well-funded military. hamas is well—funded military. hamas is listed as a terror organisation by many western governments. give us a sense of the military structures of each side and neck of abilities and resources. the each side and neck of abilities and resources. , , ., ., , ~ resources. the idf is organised like a western military. _ resources. the idf is organised like a western military. it _ resources. the idf is organised like a western military. it is _ resources. the idf is organised like a western military. it is always - a western military. it is always been built and focus to do two things. one is to counter terrorism as we are seeing here in gaza and the other has been to defend the country against a peer competitor in iran. hamas is more and more organised as a small army. is a conventional army, organised as a small army. is a conventionalarmy, but organised as a small army. is a conventional army, but it still using these terror tactics and what we saw in the october seven attack was a very well structured, conventional attack into israel but as they were falling back, what you see is the fighters that are in gaza are going to become more and more disorganised but you also have a large amount of hamas fighters and particularly leadership that have likely fled gaza and not even been there since october the 7th and they are busy using this like terror organisations do as a pr campaign. you mentioned iran there, which of course backs hamas. hamas is also a lot ideologically with the likes of hezbollah, to the north of israel and they have their own intelligent structures. how much does it hamas rely on iran and the likes of hezbollah its counteroffensive against israel? taste hezbollah its counteroffensive against israel?— hezbollah its counteroffensive against israel? we don't know. i think that the _ against israel? we don't know. i think that the hamas _ against israel? we don't know. i think that the hamas leadership | against israel? we don't know. i l think that the hamas leadership in gaza figured they would get more support from hezbollah and iran and they have not. in this if they have been left out at this point. and it probably worries to leadership. and as the casualties mount and world opinion is turning towards israel, you may see that hezbollah and iran find a chance to come back in in the fight and game about supporting hamas now. fight and game about supporting hamas now— fight and game about supporting hamas now. . , . , . , hamas now. 0k, military and security anal st hamas now. 0k, military and security analyst from — hamas now. 0k, military and security analyst from connecticut, _ hamas now. 0k, military and security analyst from connecticut, thank - hamas now. 0k, military and security analyst from connecticut, thank you l analyst from connecticut, thank you very much being with us. like pictures now coming to an from the sky line over gaza city and this is just happened in the last few seconds of my apologies, this is the border of israel and gaza and we can see rockets being fired in and explosions and smoke as well. lighting up the sky line there. this is gaza city as i'm being corrected and this is happening right now. it's about 915 p.m. local time and this is gaza city that you can see there and we will try to find out what is happening and bring it to you when we can. around the world and across the uk, this is bbc news. let's look at some other stories making news. latest official figures show no economic growth in the uk between july and september after a succession of interest rate rises. the performance was slightly better than expected. many analysts had believed it would shrink. last week, the bank of england said the uk economy was likely to see zero growth until 2025, although it is expected to avoid a recession. england's chief medical officer has warned that the uk faces a "health crisis" because of a rapidly ageing population. in his annual report, professor chris whitty says while more people are living longer, many of their later years are spent in bad health. an inquest has ruled that a british couple died in egypt from carbon monoxide poisoning after the next—door hotel room was sprayed with pesticide to kill bedbugs. john cooper and susan cooper, from lancashire, fell ill while on a family holiday in hurghada on the 21st of august 2018. you're live with bbc news. very good to have you with us. back to the live pictures now from the border of israel and gaza and even come in the last few seconds, a live shot of the border there over the last couple of minutes and we have seen rockets being fired into the territory, lighting up the sky line as you can see smoke and explosions going on there. we will bring you more on this when we have as we try to find out what is happening there. in the uk, the metropolitan police is imposing an exclusion zone around the cenotaph, britain's war memorial, and whitehall in central london ahead of the pro—palestinian march and rememberance events this weekend. almost 2000 police officers will be on duty as people from across the uk come to the capital. the home circuitry met with the commissioner of the met police this morning as they discuss preparations for this. it comes as downing street says the prime minister has full confidence in the home secretary, suella braverman, after growing calls to sack her. it's over an article she wrote in which she accused the police of bias. 0ur deputy political editor vicki young has more. at 11am tomorrow morning, crowds will gather here to mark the end of the first world war. later, in another part of london, tens of thousands will take to the streets, calling for a ceasefire in an ongoing conflict in the middle east. a political row has erupted about the policing of these two events. scotland yard says a huge security operation is under way, far greater and more complex than previous years. we do have intelligence that there will be people coming for a counterprotest, and the police's job this weekend is to keep everybody safe, whether exercising their right to protest, whether coming down to counterprotest, but particularly for those veterans and our really vulnerable communities who are scared and who are frightened. and ourjob is to ensure that they are safe and that they feel safe, and that is what our plan is there to do. these weekly demonstrations have prompted the home secretary to accuse the police of favouritism. in the times, she wrote that "pro—palestinian mobs" were largely ignored while right—wing protesters were met with a stern response. are you resigning, home secretary? her article wasn't approved by downing street. there's been no reprimand from the prime minister, but others are deeply concerned. you have to make decisions based on the law, not based _ on popularity or polls. we are in danger of turning - the police into an arm of the state directed by politicians. suella braverman didn't make the changes to her article that rishi sunak wanted, and he hasn't repeated her criticism of the police. but plenty of tory mps are backing her. number 10 has full confidence in suella. she has not breached cabinet responsibilities. she's not criticised government policy. she's set out an opinion publicly that many of the public share. downing street says the government's focused on making sure this weekend's events go ahead without disruption. some think the outspoken remarks by suella braverman have made that more difficult. she's openly defied rishi sunak, and he is under pressure to act. but for now it seems that dealing with the home secretary is on hold. the most pressing issue now is what happens on london's streets this weekend. the met says it's constantly gathering intelligence and developing its tactics so that anyone trying to cause disorder is quickly dealt with. vicki young, bbc news, westminster. the metropolitan police has now allowed the march to go ahead under certain conditions. protesters will gather at hyde park at midday. the metropolitan police have allowed tomorrow's march organised by the palestinian solidarity campaign to go ahead under certain conditions. protesters will gather at hyde park at midday, an hour after the armistice day two—minute silence. their march route will avoid the cenotaph and finish at the us embassy in south london. at least a dozen coaches full of demonstrators will travel from leicester to the capital to join thousands calling for a ceasefire in gaza. ismail patel is the founder of the leicester—based friends of al—aqsa, one of the organisations which have planned the march. tell us what do you have planned for tomorrow. . ~ tell us what do you have planned for tomorrow. ., ,, , ., tell us what do you have planned for tomorrow. . ~' , ., ., tomorrow. thank you for inviting me. man of us tomorrow. thank you for inviting me. many of us have _ tomorrow. thank you for inviting me. many of us have come _ tomorrow. thank you for inviting me. many of us have come past _ tomorrow. thank you for inviting me. many of us have come past hope - tomorrow. thank you for inviting me. many of us have come past hope to l many of us have come past hope to come down to london with people from leicester and across the country as well to hopefully call for a cease—fire and that is what our demand has been since the attacks started on gaza.— started on gaza. there are high emotions around _ started on gaza. there are high emotions around this _ started on gaza. there are high emotions around this topic. - started on gaza. there are high i emotions around this topic. there are high emotions around the topic of the israel— gaza war as it is and thatis of the israel— gaza war as it is and that is exacerbated somewhat by the fact that there are now these protests and marches happening on britain's remembrance davis of their many who feel this is insensitive and question whether this could not have just waited and been done another day. how would you respond to that? , ., ., , ., to that? first and foremost, is not auoin to to that? first and foremost, is not going to be _ to that? first and foremost, is not going to be on _ to that? first and foremost, is not going to be on remembrance, - to that? first and foremost, is not going to be on remembrance, it. to that? first and foremost, is not - going to be on remembrance, it would be on armistice day, the 11th day of the 11th hour of the 11th month and armistice day we normally practice over the last century that we have a two minute silence and this is what we will do and respect. that silence and after that we will have a demonstration. as the rest of the country and members of the public will do, they will go to football matches, they will go to festivals and shopping and it will be asking for our armistice on armistice day. you are right as this is armistice day and not remembrance day, my apologies for that but we have seen unfortunately some incidents in previous demonstrations and marches where there have been claims and complaints of anti—semitic remarks and hate speech as one of the organisers behind this march. what organisers behind this march. what responsibility _ organisers behind this march. what responsibility do _ organisers behind this march. what responsibility do you take for the actions of people who are out demonstrating?— demonstrating? most of our demonstrations _ demonstrating? most of our demonstrations have - demonstrating? most of our demonstrations have been l demonstrating? most of our - demonstrations have been peaceful demonstrating? most of our _ demonstrations have been peaceful as the police have indicated. and if there has been anybody, we condemn it right from the beginning. but in this time, particularly after what suella braverman has done and she has fanned the flames of hatred against us, we have taken precautions and given out guidance to the people who will hopefully be joining us on saturday on how they should behave, what they should say and should not say and so it does not go out of hand. and we are concerned about that. but because not what are protesters like you to do but rather because what suella braverman has whipped this up as a frenzy in the country. {lilia braverman has whipped this up as a frenzy in the country.— frenzy in the country. 0k, one of the organisers _ frenzy in the country. 0k, one of the organisers for _ frenzy in the country. 0k, one of the organisers for tomorrow's i the organisers for tomorrow's pro—palestinian march, thank you very much for being with us. and on the topic of suella braverman, we can now speak... we can speak now to katy balls, the political editor of the spectator. what do you think of her situation? is what do you think of her situation? is very— what do you think of her situation? is very much — what do you think of her situation? is very much in the air and we had the sense — is very much in the air and we had the sense that they had not given full concern about alleged police bias from — full concern about alleged police bias from number ten but i think today— bias from number ten but i think today things have calmed from the sense _ today things have calmed from the sense is— today things have calmed from the sense is quite clear that number ten does not _ sense is quite clear that number ten does not want to act. first before they have — does not want to act. first before they have investigated it, though i think— they have investigated it, though i think it's _ they have investigated it, though i think it's probably quite a simple investigation as to how an op—ed appear— investigation as to how an op—ed appear without their permission, but secondly— appear without their permission, but secondlv i _ appear without their permission, but secondly i think they don't want to do much _ secondly i think they don't want to do much ahead of the protest this weekend — do much ahead of the protest this weekend. and to therefore have a situation — weekend. and to therefore have a situation where you were changing the home — situation where you were changing the home secretary while you have obviously _ the home secretary while you have obviously one of the largest pro—palestinian march as yet. and all the _ pro—palestinian march as yet. and all the complications that will come from that— all the complications that will come from that anything about how most of the week— from that anything about how most of the week up until suella braverman op-ed _ the week up until suella braverman op-ed had — the week up until suella braverman op—ed had been about whether the met police _ op—ed had been about whether the met police should cancel it or if there is a threat — police should cancel it or if there is a threat to disorder and so forth — is a threat to disorder and so forth so _ is a threat to disorder and so forth. so in a slight holding pattern— forth. so in a slight holding pattern until next week when the prime _ pattern until next week when the prime minister will come at a pressure _ prime minister will come at a pressure to act either way. what su ort pressure to act either way. what support does _ pressure to act either way. what support does the _ pressure to act either way. what support does the holmes - pressure to act either way. what support does the holmes or- pressure to act either way. twist support does the holmes or terry have a monster cabinet colleagues? i have a monster cabinet colleagues? i think it months cabinet colleagues, this is_ think it months cabinet colleagues, this is a _ think it months cabinet colleagues, this is a ttit— think it months cabinet colleagues, this is a bit more lukewarm than perhaps— this is a bit more lukewarm than perhaps parts of the party. i think there _ perhaps parts of the party. i think there is— perhaps parts of the party. i think there is a — perhaps parts of the party. i think there is a sense this week because it was— there is a sense this week because it was not— there is a sense this week because it was notjust there is a sense this week because it was not just about the times peace — it was not just about the times peace and _ it was not just about the times peace and that northern ireland comparison but there is discomfort from _ comparison but there is discomfort from last— comparison but there is discomfort from last weekend when it came to a tweet— from last weekend when it came to a tweet that _ from last weekend when it came to a tweet that she said about rough steeping — tweet that she said about rough sleeping and the idea of a lifestyle choice _ sleeping and the idea of a lifestyle choice at — sleeping and the idea of a lifestyle choice. at that point he began to see fetiow— choice. at that point he began to see fellow members of cabinet going out on _ see fellow members of cabinet going out on the _ see fellow members of cabinet going out on the airwaves and doing media and distancing themselves from her language _ and distancing themselves from her language. and therefore i think there _ language. and therefore i think there is— language. and therefore i think there is a — language. and therefore i think there is a frustration amongst members _ there is a frustration amongst members of the cabinet that they feel as _ members of the cabinet that they feel as though they are spending more _ feel as though they are spending more time talking about what their colleague — more time talking about what their colleague has sent and whether they agree _ colleague has sent and whether they agree or— colleague has sent and whether they agree or disagree and a lot of time is disagree — agree or disagree and a lot of time is disagree that talking about their trriefs— is disagree that talking about their briefs and — is disagree that talking about their briefs and with the prime minister is doing — briefs and with the prime minister is doing. and therefore i think cabinet — is doing. and therefore i think cabinet is _ is doing. and therefore i think cabinet is going to be cold but some sopporters_ cabinet is going to be cold but some supporters but in the water party, there _ supporters but in the water party, there are — supporters but in the water party, there are a — supporters but in the water party, there are a block of mp still very loyal— there are a block of mp still very loyal to— there are a block of mp still very loyal to suella braverman who think that she _ loyal to suella braverman who think that she is _ loyal to suella braverman who think that she is speaking to an audience and people — that she is speaking to an audience and people many think that. we are to leave it there, _ and people many think that. we are to leave it there, thank _ and people many think that. we are to leave it there, thank you - and people many think that. we are to leave it there, thank you very - to leave it there, thank you very much forjoining us and we will end on these live pictures this half hour, live shots from the israel— got a border in the last 50 minutes orso got a border in the last 50 minutes or so and we have seen rockets fired and we have seen explosions and as you can see smoke rising into the sky there. stick with us on bbc news. hello. some of us are set to start the weekend with a touch of frost and some fog patches, and where that fog does develop, it could be quite slow to clear. saturday should be a mostly dry day with some sunshine. things change a bit on remembrance sunday with some outbreaks of rain in places. now, as we head through the rest of this evening and tonight, we will continue to see some showers here and there, but most of those will fade. clear spells, the winds are falling lighter. that will allow some fog patches to develop, and it will also allow temperatures to drop. —i there, for example, in the centre of glasgow. some places will get colder than that, and widely we will be quite close to freezing. so, into saturday morning, we will find ourselves in this gap between weather systems, and that means quite a lot of dry weather. but with those fog patches early on, some of which could be slow to clear, particularly across parts of northern england, northern ireland and scotland. the few showers just peppering eastern coast, but otherwise it is a fine—looking day, and for most, there should be quite a lot of sunshine. temperatures — seven degrees in glasgow, 12 in cardiff and plymouth, maybe 13 in the channel islands. but through the late afternoon and the evening, we will bring some heavy rain in across the channel islands and into the far south—west of england. in association with a frontal system, in fact a few different frontal systems starting to push in from the atlantic, but still with a bit of uncertainty about the timing. the further north and east you are, though, northern england and scotland, sunday is a likely to start with a lot of mist and murk and some fog patches. some of that fog slow to clear. so if you are off to any commemorations at 11 o'clock, scotland could well be decidedly murky, decidedly cold as well. and into this mix of mist and murk in northern england, we are likely to bring some outbreaks of rain. showery rain for wales and southern england, unlikely to be raining all the time, but there certainly is the chance. that rain also affecting northern ireland and then pushing a little further north—eastwards through the day. if it stays dry across scotland, it's also likely to stay quite murky and decidedly chilly. but milder towards the south—west of england. and things will turn milderfor all of us into the start of the new week. as frontal systems push in from the atlantic, outbreaks of rain, perhaps some brisk winds at times, but temperatures up to around 14—15 degrees in places. it mayjust turn a little bit drier as we head towards the end of the week. this is bbc news, the headlines... explosions and shelling have been reported around gaza's largest hospital, which was struck by at least one projectile on friday. the israel defence force confirmed they are operating in the area, but denied firing on medicalfacilities. the hamas—run health ministry in gaza says more than 11,000 people have now been killed, including more than a,500 children. the un has appealed for an immediate ceasefire in northern myanmar, where ethnic armed groups launched an offensive against the military two weeks ago. it said a pause was crucial to allow aid to reach displaced people. and here in london, a judge has ruled that prince harry and several other high—profile figures can continue their legal action against the publishing group associated newspapers. an emergency meeting of the arab league will be held riyadh on saturday to build a cohesive response to the israel gaza war. earlier, palestinian president mahmoud abbas said the palestinian authority is ready to assume responsibilities in the gaza strip as part of a political solution for the occupied west bank, eastjerusalem and gaza. as efforts at mediation between israel and hamas continue, the emir of qatar met with the egyptian president in cairo in a diplomatic push to find a way out of the war. live now to dr yossi beilin, a former israeli government justice minister and one of the key negotiators of the oslo peace accord agreed between palestinians and israelis. he's in tel aviv. thank you very much for being with us. what do you

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