helpless, so terrified, and so confused, _ helpless, so terrified, and so confused, can _ helpless, so terrified, and so confused, can you _ helpless, so terrified, and so confused, can you imagine i helpless, so terrified, and so . confused, can you imagine your helpless, so terrified, and so - confused, can you imagine your child in this— confused, can you imagine your child in this situation? _ confused, can you imagine your child in this situation? they _ confused, can you imagine your child in this situation? they disappeared l in this situation? they disappeared from our— in this situation? they disappeared from our life. — in this situation? they disappeared from our life, we _ in this situation? they disappeared from our life, we don't— in this situation? they disappeared from our life, we don't know- in this situation? they disappeared from our life, we don't know when| in this situation? they disappeared i from our life, we don't know when we would _ from our life, we don't know when we would see _ from our life, we don't know when we would see them — from our life, we don't know when we would see them again. _ from our life, we don't know when we would see them again. [— from our life, we don't know when we would see them again.— would see them again. i want to welcome back _ would see them again. i want to welcome back or _ would see them again. i want to welcome back or reviewers, - would see them again. i want to welcome back or reviewers, we | would see them again. i want to i welcome back or reviewers, we are here in composition with three mothers who have lost their children, kidnapped, currently in gaza. we have spoken lots about what happened on the day, ijust want to understand, you spoke about your emotions, i want to understand what happens when these videos and some hostages are released, due to take hope from that or is it twist the knife? is it worse because of those videos? �* . knife? is it worse because of those videos? �* , ' . , videos? let's differentiate between the videos hamas _ videos? let's differentiate between the videos hamas was _ videos? let's differentiate between the videos hamas was sending - videos? let's differentiate between the videos hamas was sending thatj the videos hamas was sending that the videos hamas was sending that the binning, parts of their propaganda, all of its, including the video— propaganda, all of its, including the video hadas was talking about, showing _ the video hadas was talking about, showing that the children be taken from their— showing that the children be taken from their home. if you are talking about— from their home. if you are talking about the — from their home. if you are talking about the hostages released, both of them. _ about the hostages released, both of them. the _ about the hostages released, both of them, the last ones that were released — them, the last ones that were released are from our community, at least. _ released are from our community, at least. i_ released are from our community, at least. i was — released are from our community, at least, i was very hopeful after their— least, i was very hopeful after their release because it seems to me that maybe _ their release because it seems to me that maybe there is some humanity on the other— that maybe there is some humanity on the other end and they saw elderly ladies _ the other end and they saw elderly ladies that needed medical care and decided _ ladies that needed medical care and decided to— ladies that needed medical care and decided to release them to stop so maybe _ decided to release them to stop so maybe there is hope after all. you said you're — maybe there is hope after all. you said you're not — maybe there is hope after all. um, said you're not getting information from the israeli government, mark regev is coming on the programme tonight, what do i need to ask him? i don't expect them to give me any information, because any information given— information, because any information given to _ information, because any information given to me _ information, because any information given to me would probably put my childreh's_ given to me would probably put my children's life at risk, so even if they— children's life at risk, so even if they know— children's life at risk, so even if they know something, they will not tell at— they know something, they will not tell at 200 or families what is going — tell at 200 or families what is going on— tell at 200 or families what is going on and what they know or don't. _ going on and what they know or don't. i— going on and what they know or don't, i understand it's a complex situation. — don't, i understand it's a complex situation, but i do want them to be obligated _ situation, but i do want them to be obligated to is to get the children out. obligated to is to get the children out l'm — obligated to is to get the children out. i'm not sure it's his first priority _ out. i'm not sure it's his first priority l— out. i'm not sure it's his first riori . . . out. i'm not sure it's his first riori . ., �*, out. i'm not sure it's his first riori . �*, . out. i'm not sure it's his first priority-— out. i'm not sure it's his first riori. �*, . priority. i was let's ask you that, do ou priority. i was let's ask you that, do you think _ priority. i was let's ask you that, do you think the _ priority. i was let's ask you that, do you think the hostages - priority. i was let's ask you that, do you think the hostages are i priority. i was let's ask you that, | do you think the hostages are the first priority?— first priority? children, hostages in reneral first priority? children, hostages in general yes. _ first priority? children, hostages in general yes, but _ first priority? children, hostages in general yes, but children - first priority? children, hostages l in general yes, but children should be out _ in general yes, but children should be out now. — in general yes, but children should be out now, no deals, no negotiationsjust be out now, no deals, no negotiations just timeout for children, get them out. we understand _ children, get them out. a understand there are decisions the war cabinet is following and it need and desire for retribution, but as you say are the hostages being prioritise in that and is the strategy right? it prioritise in that and is the strategy right?— prioritise in that and is the strategy right? prioritise in that and is the strate: riuht? . ., ., ., strategy right? it is not for me to sa , i'm strategy right? it is not for me to say. i'm not _ strategy right? it is not for me to say. i'm not a — strategy right? it is not for me to say, i'm not a politician, - strategy right? it is not for me to| say, i'm not a politician, strategic consultant. — say, i'm not a politician, strategic consultant, general in the army, 'ust consultant, general in the army, just a _ consultant, general in the army, just a mother of two who are being held hostage and i think it is my government responsibility to get them _ government responsibility to get them out, and since they are children— them out, and since they are children they should be released no questions _ children they should be released no questions asked. they should be agreed _ questions asked. they should be agreed on — questions asked. they should be agreed on both sides, on both sides, children— agreed on both sides, on both sides, children out — agreed on both sides, on both sides, children out. we agreed on both sides, on both sides, children out-— children out. we are out of time, but i am grateful _ children out. we are out of time, but i am grateful to _ children out. we are out of time, but i am grateful to all— children out. we are out of time, but i am grateful to all of- children out. we are out of time, but i am grateful to all of you - but i am grateful to all of you coming in and i'm sure the sympathies and thoughts are there from all our viewers watching, thank you for coming, and we wish for the safe return of your relatives. thank you thank you. i want to bring you some breaking news because what were talking we were getting some details about our murder investigation launched. some breaking news from here in the uk — a murder investigation has been launched after a 15—year—old boy was stabbed near a school in leeds, west yorkshire. emergency services were called to town street in horsforth, near st margaret's primary school, just before three o'clcok this afternoon. the boy, a former student at nearby horsforth school, later died in hospital. police say two teenage boys have been arrested over the incident. we will keep across that and bring you details that come to us. sport and for a full round—up, from the bbc sport centre, here's gavin. it's a huge night of champions league action across europe, with qualification for the knockout phase, at stake for some. barcelona missed out on becoming the first side to make the last 16 — they were beaten 1—0 by shakhtar donetsk. that was one of the earlier kick offs — another of those saw dortmund again get the better of newcastle. in the same group, psg can put themselves in an even stronger position — they're 1—1 with milan. about half an hour gone there. manchester city the holders, can seal their spot later if they beat young boys. erling haaland started for them, and scored a penalty — 1—0 at the etihad. celtic are 1—0 down to atletico madrid. to an absolute thriller at the cricket world cup now — where a spectacular double century from glenn maxwell saw australia clinch their spot in the semifinals. they beat afghanistan, but it really was the maxwell show in mumbai, his flurry of sixes sealing an incredible fightback for the aussies. it all began brightly for afghanistan, setting their opponents 292 to win. ibrahim zadran with a slice of history of his own, his hundred their first in a world cup. they were cruising in their hunt for australian wickets. naveen ul—haq getting the better of travis head and mitchell marsh, which had australia five wickets down and floundering, but maxwell had other ideas — arriving at the crease after australia slumped to 91—7. he inspired australia with his 201 not out as australia chased down the target to win by three wickets. his team—mates in awe of his performance. i think that's the greatest odi innings i've ever seen. it's probably the greatest odi innings ever. we were just chatting about it, we all said it's one of those days where you say, "i was there in the stadium that day maxwell chased down that total by himself". yeah, i'm sure he will be fine. i think you saw out there how much he loves playing for australia and he will do anything to play so i am sure he will be fine. and that's all the sport for now. thank you. if you are listening to our discussion with the three mothers in the studio, you know we were talking about what happens after the conflict, and interview benjamin netanyahu gave to abc news and went he said israeli troops would probably need to be in gaza indefinitely to ensure israel's security. some reaction from the white house let's bring in our correspondent and colleague. barb put pressure. what is the white house saying about what mr netanyahu told abc news and do they supported? the white house and state department say the us does not support reoccupation of gaza, that palestinians should be the one who determined what it looks like the day after. the issue here is that israelis have been telling americans they don't want to reoccupy gaza and as i said the us strongly supports that so they are trying to figure out what history netanyahu means by an indefinite period of being in charge of overall security. it is not the first time they have spoken about a new security regime but permission is scarce stop what you haveis permission is scarce stop what you have is repeating the us policy, you've that from secretary of state antony blinken, in testimony to the senate he said the day after, or if israel manages to oust, ask for power in gaza, there should not be a long—term israeli occupation of gaza nor any return to hamas governing gaza, in between there are permutations, it would make more sense for it revitalise palestinian authority to take control. that is completed because the palestinian president said he would not go into gaza on the back of an israeli tanks, and the fact that she's not very popular right now because he's weakened, in effect, and the fact that the palestinian authority has recognised israel to try to work toward a two state solution for years, so it's quite completed. antony blinken said maybe other countries in the region or international agencies could step into the gap, again that would be an issueif into the gap, again that would be an issue if israel feels it addresses the security, also, other countries in the region, arab countries, are not speaking about as it currently and what they are calling for a cease—fire in the current conflict, but not what will come at the day after. so, it's a matter of state the parameters of what the us would like to see, and being conscious of other factors in between like to see, and being conscious of otherfactors in between determining how this will play out. we other factors in between determining how this will play out.— how this will play out. we might ick how this will play out. we might -ick that how this will play out. we might pick that up _ how this will play out. we might pick that up with _ how this will play out. we might pick that up with mark _ how this will play out. we might l pick that up with mark regev who how this will play out. we might - pick that up with mark regev who is standing by, just on the humanitarian pause thatjoe biden is pushing for, it seems to me that john kirby or the white house doesn't think there is not enough aid going in despite the lack of a humanitarian crisis that the israeli government seems to be talking about. . . . , government seems to be talking about. . .. , ., government seems to be talking about. . , . . about. the americans have also been ve clear about. the americans have also been very clear about _ about. the americans have also been very clear about this, _ about. the americans have also been very clear about this, they _ about. the americans have also been very clear about this, they have - very clear about this, they have worked hard to get that stream of eight in to gaza as it exists, but they also say and agree with you and a few shows that the humanitarian aid is not enough, hence the idea of aid is not enough, hence the idea of a humanitarian pause, to which mr netanyahu responded somewhat, and said they could have an hour here or there to make it more efficient. the americans have never spelled out what they mean by a pause, humanitarian officials want something long enough to make a significant difference in terms of aid but the us agrees with israel in terms of not calling for a cease—fire, saying that would only benefit hamas, but officials at the un are calling for a cease—fire. thank you barbara for the update, we would speak to mark regev who is waiting for us but a quick break before that. around the world and across the uk. this is bbc news. bringing you different stories from across the uk. villagers who gathered to meet their mp in a pub car park in nottinghamshire havejust found out about the latest proposal for a solar park. the great north road scheme plans battery storage for the grid and a chain of what is called solar islands linked by underground cables serving the village. the majority of the community is not against solar but i think the dimension of this project is so huge and vast. the proposals cover dozens of villages, thousands of acres and will have a profound impact on landscape and quality of life of people living in this area. the company behind the plan says if it goes ahead they will pay £1 million a year to projects suggested by the community. this is just the start of a consultation which really gets going next year, and a nationally significant infrastructure projects with the final decision made by the secretary of state for energy. for more stories across the uk, head to the bbc news website. you're live with bbc news. live now to mark regev, senior adviser to israel's prime minister benjamin netanyahu. good to see you and thank you for coming on the programme will stop you would've heard barbara speaking from washington and the reaction from washington and the reaction from the white house to what is really by minister benjamin netanyahu said on the abc interview, that israelis would need an indefinite occupation to secure gaza to stop what do you have in mind question went you have to listen carefully to what the prime minister actually said. he carefully to what the prime minister actually said-— actually said. he spoke about his security present, _ actually said. he spoke about his security present, and _ actually said. he spoke about his security present, and ongoing i security present, and ongoing security present, and ongoing security present, and ongoing security present, he didn't say occupation, or political control. it is important to distinguish between political control and security. from our perspective, we want to see guys that governs itself when it is over, and we want to see a post hamas demilitarised gaza and the only thing is we want to vent it resurgent hamas coming back. controlled by who? you heard mahmoud abbas said he's not going to write into gaza on the back of an israeli tank. ~ . into gaza on the back of an israeli tank. . . , . . tank. we are in the stand are familiar with _ tank. we are in the stand are familiar with his _ tank. we are in the stand are familiar with his perspective, j tank. we are in the stand arel familiar with his perspective, i won't go into specifics about who would be in charge, i'm only thing is really is not interested in ruling over positivist indians in gaza, wejust ruling over positivist indians in gaza, we just want to ensure we don't have another october and seventh massacre, we have to protect our people, and for the time being there has to be some sort of israeli security present manatt permanent underground, fluid, forces going out and in when needed. the goal is that this is when it's over, once again, a demilitarised post — hamas gaza, and effort from those in the region to reestablish a society there, we want to see gaza succeeds and i gaza that lives in peace with israel. the palestinian — that lives in peace with israel. the palestinian authority said the israeli government is exploiting the preoccupation with the war in gaza to take new church is underground. by to take new church is underground. by the sins of been displaced in areas since october seven. are you doing enough to rein in extremist elements in the west bank? anyone who takes the _ elements in the west bank? anyone who takes the law _ elements in the west bank? anyone who takes the law into _ elements in the west bank? anyone who takes the law into their - elements in the west bank? anyone who takes the law into their hands, l who takes the law into their hands, and a vigilante, we condemn it. share and a vigilante, we condemn it. are ou and a vigilante, we condemn it. are you stopping it? the _ and a vigilante, we condemn it. are you stopping it? the police - and a vigilante, we condemn it. are you stopping it? the police are - you stopping it? the police are auoin to you stopping it? the police are going to arrest _ you stopping it? the police are going to arrest such _ you stopping it? the police are going to arrest such people. it| you stopping it? the police are i going to arrest such people. it is you stopping it? the police are . going to arrest such people. it is a month