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under the current law, independent schools can register as charities if they can demonstrate they make places available for those of more "modest means" — usually through scholarships and bursaries. in return they get tax breaks on their annual profits. there is a logic to this u—turn, which i'm going to set out. you can amend rules in a finance bill and they could do that in the first year of labour government, removing charitable status is a much more complex affair. probably open to legal challenge. that is the reasoning probably behind it. what about politically? how concerned are you that yet again they are accused of a u—turn? you that yet again they are accused of a hum?— of a u-turn? that's the point, this wouldn't be _ of a u-turn? that's the point, this wouldn't be a _ of a u-turn? that's the point, this wouldn't be a story _ of a u-turn? that's the point, this wouldn't be a story of— of a u-turn? that's the point, this wouldn't be a story of sir- wouldn't be a story of sir keir starmer hadn't been under pressure for several weeks now for making u—turns on quite significant policy. if he is to be the leader of the yeutter two labour party all those years ago. this is a u—turn in my book. he still committed to removing the benefits of private schools have by being two charities. in reality what that means is not having to pay vat and business rays. he is still committed to making sure private schools pay taxes and don't get subsidised from the taxpayer. that would make a much more equal playing field when it comes to the provision of education. it doesn't look like if it's a classical u—turn but i think he is getting accused of this because of the track record of the past few weeks. he suddenly moved if not you turn completely.— not you turn completely. listen to his interview _ not you turn completely. listen to his interview this _ not you turn completely. listen to his interview this week _ not you turn completely. listen to his interview this week on - not you turn completely. listen to his interview this week on nick . his interview this week on nick robinson's political thinking. he said look, it's up to the school whether or not they pass on that vat charge to parents. which is pretty disingenuous, he knows a lot of these schools, the smaller independent schools run on tight margins and will probably pass it on to parents who are already feeling a cost—of—living crisis. do you think he can of board to annoy that demographic that supports private schools? is that what he is wary about? i schools? is that what he is wary about? ~ . ., about? i think the centre ground in british politics _ about? i think the centre ground in british politics is _ about? i think the centre ground in british politics is about _ about? i think the centre ground in british politics is about economic i british politics is about economic security and people wanting their kids to have a better lives than themselves. i don't think this changes the ambition from irish voters and i think that's ultimately what keir starmer is important in the next election. i think it's disingenuous when you examine the suggestion you might take away tax breaks from private school. the first thing they say will have to go is their own efficiencies as the scholarships of the bursaries they offer. i think if that makes any sense that those opportunities provided in any altruistic fashion shows them exactly which they are, which are linked to institutional institution which tax breaks that standardised by the public. that's why think keir starmer is absolutely right to make sure when he is in office they pay their fair share in our subsidised not by the public anymore. if our subsidised not by the public an more. , ., anymore. if it is a lie private education — anymore. if it is a lie private education what _ anymore. if it is a lie private education what is _ anymore. if it is a lie private education what is an - anymore. if it is a lie private education what is an ego - anymore. if it is a lie private - education what is an ego the full hog like segment and be in private schools altogether? that hog like segment and be in private schools altogether?— hog like segment and be in private schools altogether? that would be my dream in many — schools altogether? that would be my dream in many decades' _ schools altogether? that would be my dream in many decades' time - schools altogether? that would be my dream in many decades' time i - schools altogether? that would be my dream in many decades' time i think. dream in many decades' time i think that could be a reality in the united kingdom. you have to start from where they are. this is a question of fairness. is it for other private schools get tax breaks with max i think most people in the united kingdom will suggest that it's not. therefore to follow a leader that's prepared to address that. if you change the question and said to keir starmer was to ban private tomorrow and take away choice i don't think they would be a majority of support for that. that might be what he believes but he will have to spend a bit of time convincing to them acknowledging the public in that direction. there convincing to them acknowledging the public in that direction.— public in that direction. there is no issue there _ public in that direction. there is no issue there is _ public in that direction. there is no issue there is more - public in that direction. there is| no issue there is more choctaw, public in that direction. there is - no issue there is more choctaw, nor debated in this country for that i've been listening to the radio programmes about this and it does divide opinion. —— talked about. we had such an interesting conversation last night and joe marino assay with their attendant states now offering parents tax breaks who want to send their children to private schools. he is pro—choice. is there a similar debate in the united states about this in about the direction of schooling?— this in about the direction of schooling? this in about the direction of schoolina? ' :: :: , , schooling? 100%. let me put it in! on this, schooling? 10096. let me put it in! on this, the _ schooling? 10096. let me put it in! on this, the city— schooling? 10096. let me put it in! on this, the city of— schooling? 10096. let me put it in! on this, the city of baltimore, - on this, the city of baltimore, maryland _ on this, the city of baltimore, maryland has 36 public schools that 13 of those schools, high schools, they are _ 13 of those schools, high schools, they are students are proficient at maths _ they are students are proficient at maths at — they are students are proficient at maths at 0%. this is looking at students — maths at 0%. this is looking at students going up to the eighth grade — students going up to the eighth grade. parents want choices, parents want options. you look at my friend joe merino — want options. you look at my friend joe marino who lives in the commonwealth of virginia and the current_ commonwealth of virginia and the current governor who many are saying should _ current governor who many are saying should jump _ current governor who many are saying should jump into this presidential rate did _ should jump into this presidential rate did not race late read on the notion— rate did not race late read on the notion to — rate did not race late read on the notion to allow parents to choice an opportunity— notion to allow parents to choice an opportunity to move their kids away from a _ opportunity to move their kids away from a failing school and give them a better_ from a failing school and give them a better opportunity. i completely understand the debate going on in the uk _ understand the debate going on in the uk. but certainly here in the united _ the uk. but certainly here in the united states we look at this and say, you — united states we look at this and say, you should be able to take your student _ say, you should be able to take your student to _ say, you should be able to take your student to a — say, you should be able to take your student to a religious school or a charter— student to a religious school or a charter school or another opportunity if that public school is failing _ opportunity if that public school is failina. ., , opportunity if that public school is failin.. , opportunity if that public school is failin. . ,, . opportunity if that public school is failin.. , ., , failing. labours says that if they ut failing. labours says that if they - ut vat failing. labours says that if they put vat on _ failing. labours says that if they put vat on school _ failing. labours says that if they put vat on school fees - failing. labours says that if they put vat on school fees they - failing. labours says that if they put vat on school fees they willj put vat on school fees they will raise around seven £7.5 billion of that they can put into —— 1.5 billion into education. the point is if you give tax breaks to parents and this is the point i made last night, if you give tax breaks to parents who send their children to private school that is money deprived to the exchequer which could go into public schooling to improve the standards that you just talked about. we improve the standards that you 'ust talked about.— talked about. we have the same art ument talked about. we have the same argument here _ talked about. we have the same argument here in _ talked about. we have the same argument here in the _ talked about. we have the same argument here in the states. - talked about. we have the same argument here in the states. i l argument here in the states. i would say to— argument here in the states. i would say to you _ argument here in the states. i would say to you that that should be a decision— say to you that that should be a decision that is made by the parent not from _ decision that is made by the parent not from a — decision that is made by the parent not from a revenue generating mechanism by the treasury or by the chancellor_ mechanism by the treasury or by the chancellor exchequer for that it should — chancellor exchequer for that it should be the parents to can find the best— should be the parents to can find the best way to educate the child. is it the best way to educate the child. is itjust_ the best way to educate the child. is itjust about the best way to educate the child. is it just about that though? you mentioned brian young kim, how much of this is about the debate? is been an angry debate about books and things children are reading in public schools that republicans think are inappropriate. we had a bizarre thing last week, senator john kennedy reading a book in the senate about the life of a gay child. this is a really hot button issue on the republican side. i wonder if that's why they have so much support for private schools. i think this is a silent majority issue — think this is a silent majority issue i_ think this is a silent majority issue. i don't like itjust republicans, democrats, independents, republicans who want their opportunity for their kids and they see _ their opportunity for their kids and they see that by and large sitting in the _ they see that by and large sitting in the district of columbia of washington, dc that our schools are failing _ washington, dc that our schools are failing and _ washington, dc that our schools are failing and parentsjust washington, dc that our schools are failing and parents just want to make _ failing and parents just want to make sure that the kids get the best education _ make sure that the kids get the best education that they can. one make sure that the kids get the best education that they can.— education that they can. one lash issue, education that they can. one lash issue. kezia. _ education that they can. one lash issue, kezia, my _ education that they can. one lash issue, kezia, my son _ education that they can. one lash issue, kezia, my son who - education that they can. one lash issue, kezia, my son who just - education that they can. one lashj issue, kezia, my son who just got into senior school only got his third choice cool this time, which he was upset about. then he did get his first choice school in the clearing system for senior schools because there were parents who took their children out of that first choice school and sent their kids to private school. it freed up a place for my son. we chatted about this in the office today, those who have young kids, does it put more pressure on state schools for those of us who want to send to state school if you don't have the private option? {lit school if you don't have the private 0 -tion? . ., , school if you don't have the private o-tion? _, , ., , ., option? of course it does for certainly _ option? of course it does for certainly do _ option? of course it does for certainly do that _ option? of course it does for certainly do that in _ option? of course it does for certainly do that in the - option? of course it does for certainly do that in the short| option? of course it does for - certainly do that in the short term. in scotland that's a really key issue in edinburgh because 24% of kids in edinburgh go to private school and that is vastly higher than any part of the country. the argument there is is all the kids in private school go into the system the system will collapse. that will be the strongest argument against it. that's why i rest on the fact that he has to be long—term planning, you have to take people with you and it takes time. there's no slapdash _ with you and it takes time. there's no slapdash answer— with you and it takes time. there's no slapdash answer here. - with you and it takes time. there's no slapdash answer here. really . no slapdash answer here. really interesting. a great topic to discuss. thank you for that. let's touch on something that's been happening in congress. the first of a series of hearings got under way today on capitol hill, which republicans hope will lead to the impeachment ofjoe biden. the republican chair of the house oversight committee, james comer suggests there is a mountain of evidence already to support their inquiry. the house oversight committee has uncovered how the bidens and their associates created over 20 shell companies, most of what were created when presidentjoe biden was vice president and breaks in over $20 million what were the bidens selling to make of this money? joe biden himself. joe biden himself. democrats say this is an impeachment inquiry in search of the evidence. a stunt designed to distract from the many indictments that donald trump is facing. here is ranking memberjamie raskin who co—wrote a single article of impeachment against donald trump two years ago. let's get it straight, we're 62 hours away from shutting down the government of the united states of america and republicans are launching in an impeachment drive based on a long debunked and discredited live. fine based on a long debunked and discredited live.— discredited live. one of two witnesses _ discredited live. one of two witnesses called _ discredited live. one of two witnesses called today - discredited live. one of two witnesses called today was| discredited live. one of two - witnesses called today was your good friend who says he does not see the evidence for high crimes and misdemeanors at the moment but he thinks there should be an inquiry. is it a fishing exercise? i thinks there should be an inquiry. is it a fishing exercise?— is it a fishing exercise? i don't think so- _ is it a fishing exercise? i don't think so- i _ is it a fishing exercise? i don't think so. ithink— is it a fishing exercise? i don't think so. i think for _ is it a fishing exercise? i don't think so. i think for him - is it a fishing exercise? i don't think so. i think for him being | is it a fishing exercise? i don't i think so. i think for him being my constitutional law professor got it right _ constitutional law professor got it right i_ constitutional law professor got it right. i think there is an obligation that in inquiry of impeachment is different than impeachment is different than impeachment itself. it allows the house _ impeachment itself. it allows the house of — impeachment itself. it allows the house of representatives, should they vote — house of representatives, should they vote with 280 votes the majority _ they vote with 280 votes the majority to go not to the justice department but to be able to use the court system to subpoena and look for evidence. i think what professor turiey— for evidence. i think what professor turtey was— for evidence. i think what professor turley was trying to articulate is lots— turley was trying to articulate is let's have — turley was trying to articulate is let's have the discussion, let's see if there _ let's have the discussion, let's see if there is— let's have the discussion, let's see if there is evidence.— if there is evidence. isn't that ttuttin if there is evidence. isn't that putting the — if there is evidence. isn't that putting the cart _ if there is evidence. isn't that putting the cart before - if there is evidence. isn't that putting the cart before the i if there is evidence. isn't that - putting the cart before the horse? impeachment was a very rare thing it was usually brought before the house for a vote, they would vote on whether to open an inquiry, which of course the republicans haven't done. they would vote to open an inquiry if there was evidence of high crimes and misdemeanors was it was usually brought before the house for a vote, they would vote on whether to open an inquiry, which of course the republicans haven't done. they would vote to open an inquiry if there was evidence of high crimes and misdemeanors. quite neve did nancy pelosi. ., , misdemeanors. quite neve did nancy pelosi. . _ , ., pelosi. nancy pelosi went straight to brinttin pelosi. nancy pelosi went straight to bringing impeachment - pelosi. nancy pelosi went straight i to bringing impeachment articles... she got— to bringing impeachment articles... she got a _ to bringing impeachment articles... she got a vote on the house floor. for impeachment articles but she never_ for impeachment articles but she never opened in an impeachment inquiry _ never opened in an impeachment inquiry i— never opened in an impeachment inquiry. i think that's where we need _ inquiry. i think that's where we need to— inquiry. i think that's where we need to start. you're actually right — need to start. you're actually right. andrewjohnson was impeached in the _ right. andrewjohnson was impeached in the 18605 and bill right. andrewjohnson wa5 impeached in the 18605 and bill clinton in i998~ — in the 18605 and bill clinton in i998~ 0t— in the 18605 and bill clinton in 1998. of course the two most recent of trauma _ 1998. of course the two most recent of trauma i— 1998. of course the two most recent of trauma. i think we're headed on a very weapon — of trauma. i think we're headed on a very weapon eye5 cour5e. —— most recent— very weapon eye5 cour5e. —— most recent of— very weapon eye5 cour5e. —— most recent of trump. u5ing impeachment a5 a recent of trump. u5ing impeachment as a weapon — recent of trump. u5ing impeachment a5 a weapon for the other party and that is— a5 a weapon for the other party and that is my— a5 a weapon for the other party and that is my biggest concern with this impeachment inquiry. speaker of the house _ impeachment inquiry. speaker of the house kevin mccarthy, if he doesn't hou5e kevin mccarthy, if he doesn't do this. _ hou5e kevin mccarthy, if he doesn't do this. go— hou5e kevin mccarthy, if he doesn't do this, go down this road they can offer— do this, go down this road they can offer a _ do this, go down this road they can offer a motion to remove him from being speaker. i think that's what he is _ being speaker. i think that's what he is most — being speaker. i think that's what he is most afraid of.— he is most afraid of. this case links two _ he is most afraid of. this case links two of — he is most afraid of. this case links two of the _ he is most afraid of. this case links two of the stories we've | he is most afraid of. this case - links two of the stories we've been talking about to die threat to democracy and the way that politics are perceived in washington. we're two days away, perhaps 24 hours away from the shutdown of the american government, which is a serious thing which affects markets all around the world. and yet they are focused on their divisions in the committees. what do you make of that? let, their divisions in the committees. what do you make of that? a couple of thints what do you make of that? a couple of things to — what do you make of that? a couple of things to say _ what do you make of that? a couple of things to say about _ what do you make of that? a couple of things to say about that, - of things to say about that, the first is isn't it astonishing what you have two separate presidential candidates largely shrugging off the concept of impeachment? ones has nothing to see here and the other doesn't care he will write it out. it won't damage them and if anything it will enhance his standing. the second thing to notice all the evidence that there is was up the standing of additions in the eyes of the public. issues like impeachment trials lower trust in politics generally and that will drive down turnout. it increases levels of distrust in politicians and political institutions and processes. ifearthe political institutions and processes. i fear the product political institutions and processes. ifear the product of thatis processes. ifear the product of that is the little guy loses out for the other woman who's working three jobs, somebody who needs the government to work seven each paycheque should be made to make ends meet needs of government to function. as it is very much as a product of popular chisholm and it really does a huge disservice to people who need government to work better than it does. it is indisputable _ better than it does. it is indisputable whatever l better than it does. it is indisputable whatever you make of the evidence are not surrounding joe biden, it is indisputable that donald trump is pulling the strings in the background. he got supporters in the background. he got supporters in the background. he got supporters in the house who he doesn't want to approve a spending bill. support of the committee who he wants to press for impeachment. he is pulling the strings and it is chaotic. {lit strings and it is chaotic. of course- — strings and it is chaotic. of course- i — strings and it is chaotic. of course. i agree with my distinguished colleagues here. the function _ distinguished colleagues here. the function of the american government is to function. at the stroke of midnight — is to function. at the stroke of midnight on september30 is to function. at the stroke of midnight on september 30 there are or preparation bill5 midnight on september 30 there are or preparation bills that have not been _ or preparation bills that have not been passed. that will lead to a government shutdown. —— appropriation bills. that will really— appropriation bills. that will really bring down markets in the united _ really bring down markets in the united states but will lead to uncertainty but i think that's a speaker— uncertainty but i think that's a speaker of the house feel so indebted to president trump for his speakership and the same with the chairman— speakership and the same with the chairman and house oversight committee that they are willing to id committee that they are willing to go down _ committee that they are willing to go down that road. i say if you are elected _ go down that road. i say if you are elected and — go down that road. i say if you are elected and you swear in those to the constitution you don't swear an oath to— the constitution you don't swear an oath to donald trump. that the constitution you don't swear an oath to donald trump.— oath to donald trump. that senate compromise _ oath to donald trump. that senate compromise that _ oath to donald trump. that senate compromise that they _ oath to donald trump. that senate compromise that they put - oath to donald trump. that senate compromise that they put together oath to donald trump. that senate i compromise that they put together on thursday, that's lucky to be put on the floor. there is no way out of this. —— likely to be put on the floor. i this. -- likely to be put on the floor. ., �* , ~' floor. i don't see it. i think the senate compromise _ floor. i don't see it. i think the senate compromise was - floor. i don't see it. i think the senate compromise was very l floor. i don't see it. i think the - senate compromise was very wise, it kicks _ senate compromise was very wise, it kicks the _ senate compromise was very wise, it kicks the can— senate compromise was very wise, it kicks the can down the road for a few more — kicks the can down the road for a few more weeks for them to negotiate. there were very conservative republicans and more moderate _ conservative republicans and more moderate republicans in the house that came — moderate republicans in the house that came forward with a similar compromise to kick the road a little bit. compromise to kick the road a little bit i_ compromise to kick the road a little bit ijust _ compromise to kick the road a little bit. ijust think that president trump — bit. ijust think that president trump to— bit. ijust think that president trump to your opening inquiry here is more _ trump to your opening inquiry here is more interesting and shutting the government down and having the impeachment inquiry than he is about keeping _ impeachment inquiry than he is about keeping the government open. he thinks _ keeping the government open. he thinks the — keeping the government open. he thinks the government should be shot drain the _ thinks the government should be shot drain the swamp. and thinks the government should be shot drain the swamp.— drain the swamp. and the salaries of federalworkers, _ drain the swamp. and the salaries of federal workers, let's _ drain the swamp. and the salaries of federal workers, let's not _ drain the swamp. and the salaries of federal workers, let's not forget - 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cost now to keeping pets. for more stories from across the uk head to | stories from across the uk head to the bbc news website. you're watching bbc news. it's time for the panel. kezia, you're watching bbc news. it's time forthe panel. kezia, hungerstart with you. sarah michael gambon who has died at the age of 82, iconic actor notjust here in the uk but in the united states as well of course. six decades on stage and screen and film and television, what a legacy. absolutely. desperately sad to lose such a major figure absolutely. desperately sad to lose such a majorfigure in absolutely. desperately sad to lose such a major figure in the absolutely. desperately sad to lose such a majorfigure in the united kingdom what a career this man had. starting is one of the original members of the royal national theatre. he is very much an actors actor, known for the roles he played in theatres across the country for many years before he broke through on our screens. he had six decades of being an actor, very successful actor. most recently the younger generations associated best with playing dumbledore from harry potter from a i think the third film on words. yourfilm box will from a i think the third film on words. your film box will know better than i. just one of those actors that was able to turn his hand from shakespeare, to harry potter to back it, everything in between. and hugely loved by everyone and will be greatly remembered as a phenomenal actor. have you got a favourite role they play. have you got a favourite role they play, ron? would be dumbledore? so many roles, so many opportunities on the silver— many roles, so many opportunities on the silver screen, on the big screen. _ the silver screen, on the big screen, no. iwould say the silver screen, on the big screen, no. i would say this, christian. _ screen, no. i would say this, christian, he's the goat. one of the best of— christian, he's the goat. one of the best of all— christian, he's the goat. one of the best of all times greatest of all times— best of all times greatest of all times what in historic actor and is done _ times what in historic actor and is done so _ times what in historic actor and is done so much not only of the uk but here in_ done so much not only of the uk but here in the _ done so much not only of the uk but here in the united states but around the world _ here in the united states but around the world of bringing joy to people to decompress from the world around us. ~ to decompress from the world around us. . ,., us. here, here. well said. there he is. i us. here, here. well said. there he is- i think — us. here, here. well said. there he is. i think everybody _ us. here, here. well said. there he is. i think everybody knows - us. here, here. well said. there he is. i think everybody knows who - is. i think everybody knows who michael gambon is for them he has died today at the age of 82. sympathies to his family. ron christie, you want to talk about... with us on the spending bill but the one thing we focus on is how much money is enough of that rock ukraine. and the compromise for the senate, 6 billion? is not can be put on the floor so what can we say about that?— on the floor so what can we say about that? what we will say is i think there's _ about that? what we will say is i think there's a _ about that? what we will say is i think there's a deep _ about that? what we will say is i think there's a deep divide - about that? what we will say is i | think there's a deep divide within the republican caucus both from the house _ the republican caucus both from the house and _ the republican caucus both from the house and the senate side for the particular— house and the senate side for the particular house republicans who say that in _ particular house republicans who say that in the _ particular house republicans who say that in the defence of appropriation bill we _ that in the defence of appropriation bill we don't want any additional money— bill we don't want any additional money going to ukraine. and despite what president biden wants to do about— what president biden wants to do about making an additional promise to president zelensky, we're not a vote for— to president zelensky, we're not a vote for it — to president zelensky, we're not a vote for it. when you look at the soul— vote for it. when you look at the soul of— vote for it. when you look at the soul of the — vote for it. when you look at the soul of the republican party right now it _ soul of the republican party right now it looks to geopolitical stability for the particularly in regards — stability for the particularly in regards to ukraine. you might also say taiwan— regards to ukraine. you might also say taiwan and other hotspots around the world _ say taiwan and other hotspots around the world. what are the republicans -et a the world. what are the republicans get a do? _ the world. what are the republicans get a do? are they willing to walk away— get a do? are they willing to walk away for— get a do? are they willing to walk away for the sake of walking away or will they— away for the sake of walking away or will they support their allies? you look at _ will they support their allies? you look at my— will they support their allies? you look at my former boss president george _ look at my former boss president george w— look at my former boss president george w bush was very much in favour— george w bush was very much in favour of— george w bush was very much in favour of this. the republican establishing now issues the foreign establishment for that where we go from here? it's a big question we need _ from here? it's a big question we need answered. 30 from here? it's a big question we need answered.— need answered. 30 seconds, his ventures and — need answered. 30 seconds, his ventures and overseas _ need answered. 30 seconds, his ventures and overseas like - need answered. 30 seconds, his ventures and overseas like iraq | need answered. 30 seconds, his - ventures and overseas like iraq puts the republican party in their mind they now are? i the republican party in their mind they now are?— they now are? i think that's right. i think they now are? i think that's right. i think there _ they now are? i think that's right. i think there are _ they now are? i think that's right. i think there are a _ they now are? i think that's right. i think there are a lot _ they now are? i think that's right. i think there are a lot of - they now are? i think that's right. i think there are a lot of folks - they now are? i think that's right. i think there are a lot of folks got| i think there are a lot of folks got shy about — i think there are a lot of folks got shy about iraq. i think a lot of it republicans gun shy about the way president — republicans gun shy about the way president biden withdrew american forces _ president biden withdrew american forces from afghanistan. they look at the _ forces from afghanistan. they look at the horn— forces from afghanistan. they look at the horn of africa and they look at the horn of africa and they look at taiwan — at the horn of africa and they look at taiwan in— at the horn of africa and they look at taiwan in the south china sea and say we _ at taiwan in the south china sea and say we don't — at taiwan in the south china sea and say we don't want any part of this, we're _ 5ay we don't want any part of this, we're just— say we don't want any part of this, we're just gonna stay here in the united _ we're just gonna stay here in the united states and we're knocking to -et united states and we're knocking to get involved in any more conflicts. thank— get involved in any more conflicts. thank you — get involved in any more conflicts. thank you very much. hello from the bbc sport centre. the ryder cup will get underway in the morning, with all eyes on the swedish 23—year—old ludvig aberg. who's been thrown straight into the deep end on his debut for europe, he'll play in the first session tomorrow against the united states after the opening pairings for the foursomes were revealed at the opening ceremony in rome. aberg is the first golfer to feature at a ryder cup before even playing a major. he is part of a team hoping to regain the trophy and avenge their record defeat two years ago, with captain luke donald aiming to record an eighth victory in 12 for europe at the marco simone golf and country club. so it'll be an early start for the foursomes tomorrow morning. at 6.35 england's tyrrell hatton and spain's world number three jon rahm take on the number one—ranked scottie scheffler and sam burns. then it's aberg, who only turned pro injune, partening viktor hovland against us rookies brian harman and max homa. ireland's shane lowry partners austria's sepp straka against rickie fowler and collin morikawa amd then in arguably the match of the morning rory mcilroy and tommy fleetwood face xander schauffele and patrick cantlay. i'v e i've seen over the past few weeks and months the world class skill and talent you possess in addition to the fact that each and every one of you are fine men. qualities that together have seen you book your place on this team. it is these attributes that i know will see you do absolutely everything in your power to turn this very special trophy back to european hands come sunday night! this week you will see incredible shotmaking. you see players on both sides stare _ shotmaking. you see players on both sides stare into the magnitude and weight— sides 5tare into the magnitude and weight of— sides stare into the magnitude and weight of the moment. and hit unbelievable golf shots. that's because — unbelievable golf shots. that's because this competition brings out the best in all of us. both ca ttains out the best in all of us. both captains with _ out the best in all of us. both captains with a _ out the best in all of us. both captains with a more - out the best in all of us. entry captains with a more build—up on bbc website. england have qualified for the quarter finals of the rugby world cup without playing after samoa lost to japan this evening. england will play samoa in their final pool match a week tomorrow. japan were in control early in the second leading by 25 points to eight soon after samoa was sent off for the despite being man down pulled a try back to cut the deficit to ten points for the a penalty should've madejapan comfortable. samoa have hit back with just seconds to go. i can tell you it is job done then for japan. samoa will play england in the final fixture japan. samoa will play england in the finalfixture a japan. samoa will play england in the final fixture a week from tomorrow. japan still have to face argentina for that we will keep you updated with reaction to that across the night. championship title—holders jersey reds "ceased trading" on wednesday and say liquidation is "inevitable" unless they are instead told they were out of the job after 11 years in the neck and tear. a decade as a professional and face liquidation unless less emergency funding can be secured. club champion mark morgan criticised the power brokers failing to put it to place a structure that would've allowed the cup to attract financing. conjuring that by saying that club is been given clear confirmation of funding levels for the new season building towards game partnership next year. surrey have retained the county championship. their nearest rivals essex needed to score at least 400 in their first innings in their game against northamptonshire, but they were dismissed for just 211, with last manjamie porter bowled for a duck. it means surrey are guaranteed to retain the championship regardless of the result of their match against hampshire in southampton. obviously winning it last year and our goal was to go back to back and waited again. to me it was very atleasin. ~ i. , ., pleasing. when did you get news that essex had been _ pleasing. when did you get news that essex had been bowled _ pleasing. when did you get news that essex had been bowled out? - pleasing. when did you get news that essex had been bowled out? we - pleasing. when did you get news that essex had been bowled out? we saw| essex had been bowled out? we saw some reaction- _ essex had been bowled out? we saw some reaction. i— essex had been bowled out? we saw some reaction. ithink— essex had been bowled out? we saw some reaction. i think a _ essex had been bowled out? we saw some reaction. i think a few - essex had been bowled out? we saw some reaction. i think a few people i some reaction. i think a few people in the balconies and the hotel side celebrating. i think that was it. that was the time we knew and the boy started singing for them it was quite enjoyable. former england lionessjodie taylor has decided to retire from football at the age of 37. she played for her country 51 times, featuring at two world cups and a european championships, winning league and cup honours in four different countries. she played at 17 different clubs before ending her career with a second spell at arsenal. i kind of knew going into playing there that i was smoke likely going to be my last into playing. i think i would've loved anything more than to have got my boots with arsenal. and when that time is right it's only you who we can call that and be ready to announce that. i think i've been ready for a while. but it's taken me to this point to officially be able to announce it. just taken me to this point to officially be able to announce it.— be able to announce it. just a reminder— be able to announce it. just a reminder in _ be able to announce it. just a reminder in the _ be able to announce it. just a reminder in the last - be able to announce it. just a reminder in the last few- be able to announce it. just a - reminder in the last few moments japan have beaten samoa so england to the court a file of rugby world cup. that is all your support for now. —— rugby world cup. hello there. much of the sunshine we got to see today was quite hazy in nature, thanks to a mix of high cloud and wildfire smoke from north america that was blown all the way across the atlantic in the wake of storm agnes, which you can see here swinging away from our shores. there is, though, another weather system now pushing in from the west, already bringing some of us some outbreaks of rain which will continue through the evening and into the night. some of that rain will be pretty heavy. so as we head into the night, some pretty wet weather for a time in western scotland, drying up there in northern ireland. but the heaviest rain, i think, will be across parts of south wales, and then up into the midlands and lincolnshire. there could be enough rain in one or two locations, perhaps most especially in the south of wales, for some localised flooding and some travel disruption. and then that rain band's weakening all the while, pushing towards the southeast corner, where it is going to stay very mild. further north and west, something cooler and fresher to take us into friday morning. so this weather system mayjust take a little bit of time to clear from the southeast corner through tomorrow morning. high pressure to the south, low pressure to the north — that brings a mix of weather fortunes. the further south you are, it should be mostly dry, not too many showers, plenty of sunshine. further north, some sunshine too, but more in the way of showers, particularly in the west of scotland, with gales possible in the far north. certainly quite a windy day across scotland. temperatures of 13 celsius in lerwick and 20 celsius in london. now, friday night will be quite chilly as this ridge of high pressure topples its way eastwards, but it doesn't last long. here comes our next rain—bearing weather system for saturday. some heavy bursts of rain pushing across northern ireland, fringing into parts of north wales, northwest england, and then up across scotland. further south, we'll see some spells of sunshine. it may just start to feel a little warmer and a little more humid. that's certainly a theme we will take with us into sunday. we could see highs of 23 celsius in the southeast corner, given enough sunshine. there will be a band of cloud and showery rain draped somewhere across central, southern england into wales. to the north of that sunshine and showers, 16 celsius the top temperature in glasgow. and then into next week, well, thoroughly mixed. there'll be more rain at times, it'll often be quite breezy, but it mayjust turn a little warmer for a time in the south. at ten — the family of a 15—year—old girl stabbed and killed in south london say their "hearts are broken" by her "senseless death". relatives and friends visit the scene where elianne andam died in croydon, mourning the loss of "the light of their lives". she was intelligent, thoughtful, kind, and had a bright future ahead of her. so, what is being done to tackle the scourge of knife crime, on britain's streets? also tonight... dutch police arrest a gunman after three people are shot dead in rotterdam. the racism row engulfing irish gymnastics, after a black girl isn't handed a medal following a competition. the olympic champion simone biles weighs in. i know you've worked incredibly hard at the sport and i wanted to say that i'm rooting for you from here. and, a horizon view no more. a sycamore tree near hadrian's wall — one of the most photographed in britain — is felled.

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