hello, i'm christian fraser. you're watching the context on bbc news. uk prime minister rishi sunak could be set to delay a decision on downgrading the h52 high—speed rail link after a backlash from his own party. and it looks rishi sunak looks to have pushed back a decision on downgrading hs2 after a furious tory backlash. the pm was expected to announce that the manchester leg of the project, phase 2, was being axed or postponed because of the spiralling costs. the only trouble is he is due in manchester next week for the tory party conference. mr sunak is said to be "stunned" by the overruns and is said to prefer regional transport projects instead. so how has a project priced in 2009 at {32.7 billion soared to more than £100 billion? let's talk to a man who may have the answer. joining me now is trevor parkin, who is a retired mining engineer and has worked on the h52 route for seven years. this looks like every building quote i have ever had. it comes in way over budget. why is that, trevor, what has gone wrong? i over budget. why is that, trevor, what has gone wrong?— over budget. why is that, trevor, what has gone wrong? i think it is a combination — what has gone wrong? i think it is a combination of— what has gone wrong? i think it is a combination of things. _ what has gone wrong? i think it is a combination of things. that - what has gone wrong? i think it is a l combination of things. that evening. first of all, i think that the biggest problem with these major infrastructure projects is that the original pricing is unrealistic. i think that is probably done to enable the thing to get going in the first instance. this project originated in 2009, we are now in 2023 so we have gone 14 years. the latest information is it won't be finished until 2041. so i think you have unrealistic expectations from the beginning and also in the case of hs2, the beginning and also in the case of h52, i the beginning and also in the case of hs2, i don't think they knew enough about the route. i think that they have plotted a route without actually understanding what all of the conditions are along the route and exactly how much it's going to cost. building a high skilled —— high—speed rail rate and a compact country like the uk is a difficult project. country like the uk is a difficult ro'ect. ., , country like the uk is a difficult ro'ect. .,, , ., project. people saying it should have been _ project. people saying it should have been cancelled _ project. people saying it should have been cancelled years - project. people saying it should have been cancelled years ago | project. people saying it should - have been cancelled years ago when it became clear that the costs were out of control but now we are in the classic problem, we have sunk a lot of money into it so what do we do with it. lord bamford today suggested that the hs2 route could be repurposed for cabling infrastructure. with the amount for electricity is soaring, is that viable? is electricity is soaring, is that viable? , , ., viable? is the first time i have heard of that. _ viable? is the first time i have heard of that. i _ viable? is the first time i have heard of that. i don't - viable? is the first time i have heard of that. i don't think - viable? is the first time i have | heard of that. i don't think it is actually necessary. the reality of the situation is that phase one, which is the section between london and the west midlands, not birmingham, the west midlands, they have spent the best part of £25 million and created a lot of the start for the infrastructure, the tunnels have been bored, some fire ducks and bridges constructed. a lot of land has been stripped. i don't think you need to cancel phase one. i don't think that is realistic and apolitical way. i don't think that is realistic and apoliticalway. i i don't think that is realistic and apolitical way. i think what they need do is repurpose phase one, get the best out of phase one that they possibly can, but that does not mean you need to continue with phase two. so, what people don't realise phase one joins onto the west coast land in south staffordshire in the place 50 miles north of birmingham. that will enable hs2 trains to serve the destinations that they were always intended to. if you cancel phase two, then you will save upwards of £30 billion at current prices. before i bring into him who has loads of thoughts on this, i'm sure, the prime minister's proposal is to have regional transport projects post as someone from the north—west who has travelled across the country in a hopeless way for most of my life, how realistic is it to build the fast lines that would get us, say from liverpool to holland in what time? with that be any cheaper, is it any it reasonable to look at the sort of projects in the second phase of the hs2 line? h the sort of projects in the second phase of the h52 line?— phase of the h52 line? i think havin: a phase of the h52 line? i think having a much _ phase of the h52 line? i think having a much better - phase of the h52 line? i think having a much better rail- phase of the h52 line? i think. having a much better rail service between the north—west and the east coast is in essential thing. but if it is realistic, i'm not sure if it is realistic to put a high—speed railway along that route. there are plenty of opportunities to look at the existing lines, some lines that are closed, upgrade the route across the pen nine. they will be a very challenging prospect to put a high spill —— high—speed rail in. you have cities close together, liverpool, manchester, leeds, bradford to consider and you have whole, york, newcastle, they are all much closer. so i don't think a high—speed rail link between those cities is the best prospect. what we need is a far better service than is currently provided. on what is effectively a community in which it stops everywhere between manchester in leeds and has no capacity to actually get on the train during rush hour. actually get on the train during rush hour-— rush hour. tim montgomery, sunporters — rush hour. tim montgomery, sunporters say _ rush hour. tim montgomery, supporters say that - rush hour. tim montgomery, supporters say that the - rush hour. tim montgomery, | supporters say that the prime minister is after a more honest debate, do you think he is a man to take difficult decisions or is he a man pushing difficult decisions into the long grass? the man pushing difficult decisions into the long grass?— man pushing difficult decisions into the long grass? the last few days he seems to be — the long grass? the last few days he seems to be floating _ the long grass? the last few days he seems to be floating a _ the long grass? the last few days he seems to be floating a position - seems to be floating a position and really— seems to be floating a position and really weighing the reaction. clearly. _ really weighing the reaction. clearly, hsz is a project and massive _ clearly, hsz is a project and massive trouble. the cost overruns are enormous. i have always been against _ are enormous. i have always been against this— are enormous. i have always been against this project because i worry that rather— against this project because i worry that rather than actually helping the north, it will only really suck growth _ the north, it will only really suck growth downwards, make london even more important. ithink growth downwards, make london even more important. i think people growth downwards, make london even more important. ithink people in manchester or people in wales or other— manchester or people in wales or other parts of the uk are crowded, trains— other parts of the uk are crowded, trains without air—conditioning, poor— trains without air—conditioning, poor services, would have much rather— poor services, would have much rather the — poor services, would have much rather the money be invested in local— rather the money be invested in local upgrades that brother gaston was talking about. the problem is, i have different positions on this every— have different positions on this every day, i'm afraid, as i hear other— every day, i'm afraid, as i hear other perspectives, the problem is, how do— other perspectives, the problem is, how do those of sunk costs which are enormous, _ how do those of sunk costs which are enormous, to— how do those of sunk costs which are enormous, to abandon the project now would _ enormous, to abandon the project now would almost make britain a laughing stock _ would almost make britain a laughing stock 50— would almost make britain a laughing stock. so repurpose in a meaningful way must _ stock. so repurpose in a meaningful way must be the priority. some stock. so repurpose in a meaningful way must be the priority.— way must be the priority. some of his suoporters _ way must be the priority. some of his supporters tonight _ way must be the priority. some of his supporters tonight are - way must be the priority. some of his supporters tonight are saying, | his supporters tonight are saying, he is tired of the people weaving around the golden credit card as if he weren't part of this decision making progress. he was the chancellor, he was signing up the checks for this project for many years. can he absolve himself of some of the responsibility? hat some of the responsibility? not reall . some of the responsibility? not really- you _ some of the responsibility? not really. you make a good point. george — really. you make a good point. george osborne who has been writing in the _ george osborne who has been writing in the times yesterday, saying that this project must go ahead. ice to an editor— this project must go ahead. ice to an editor of— this project must go ahead. ice to an editor of the times and when i was there. — an editor of the times and when i was there, the former labour chancellor alastair, wrote a piece ten years— chancellor alastair, wrote a piece ten years ago now against hsz chancellor alastair, wrote a piece ten years ago now against h52 and he warned _ ten years ago now against h52 and he warned about exactly what has happened. he said cost overruns would _ happened. he said cost overruns would occur and he talked about the failure _ would occur and he talked about the failure to _ would occur and he talked about the failure to reap benefits in places like scotland, wales, east, those who would — like scotland, wales, east, those who would not benefit despite the enormous costs in the whole project overtaken _ enormous costs in the whole project overtaken by technological developments like self driving cars. so these _ developments like self driving cars. so these problems were predictable and predicted. the rishi sunak and george _ and predicted. the rishi sunak and george osborne have a lot to answer for her— george osborne have a lot to answer for her and _ george osborne have a lot to answer for her and leave the project run the way— for her and leave the project run the way it— for her and leave the project run the way it has. for her and leave the pro'ect run the way it has.�* for her and leave the pro'ect run the way it has. saying we would be a lau~ahin the way it has. saying we would be a laughing stock _ the way it has. saying we would be a laughing stock but _ the way it has. saying we would be a laughing stock but it _ the way it has. saying we would be a laughing stock but it laments - the way it has. saying we would be a laughing stock but it laments a - laughing stock but it laments a liberal state of affairs that ministers at large don't manage big infrastructure projects well. we have been having the debate for many years since donald trump was in power about the united states's abilities to build bridges and railways at how hopeless they have been at it. why can't we build big projects at this?— projects at this? yes, this would not be unique — projects at this? yes, this would not be unique to _ projects at this? yes, this would not be unique to the _ projects at this? yes, this would not be unique to the uk - projects at this? yes, this would not be unique to the uk if- projects at this? yes, this would not be unique to the uk if they l projects at this? yes, this would - not be unique to the uk if they were to become _ not be unique to the uk if they were to become a — not be unique to the uk if they were to become a laughing _ not be unique to the uk if they were to become a laughing stock- not be unique to the uk if they were to become a laughing stock to - not be unique to the uk if they were to become a laughing stock to fail. to become a laughing stock to fail to become a laughing stock to fail to excel_ to become a laughing stock to fail to excel and — to become a laughing stock to fail to excel and create _ to become a laughing stock to fail to excel and create infrastructural to excel and create infrastructure that is _ to excel and create infrastructure that is kneeing _ to excel and create infrastructure that is kneeing timetables - to excel and create infrastructure that is kneeing timetables and i that is kneeing timetables and deliverables _ that is kneeing timetables and deliverables and _ that is kneeing timetables and deliverables and budget - that is kneeing timetables and - deliverables and budget requirements that were _ deliverables and budget requirements that were first — deliverables and budget requirements that were first laid _ deliverables and budget requirements that were first laid out _ deliverables and budget requirements that were first laid out by— that were first laid out by visionaries. _ that were first laid out by visionaries. we _ that were first laid out by visionaries. we have - that were first laid out by visionaries. we have thei that were first laid out by- visionaries. we have the same problem — visionaries. we have the same problem in _ visionaries. we have the same problem in suburban - visionaries. we have the same . problem in suburban washington, visionaries. we have the same - problem in suburban washington, dc, it's called _ problem in suburban washington, dc, it's called the — problem in suburban washington, dc, it's called the purple _ problem in suburban washington, dc, it's called the purple line, _ problem in suburban washington, dc, it's called the purple line, the - it's called the purple line, the light— it's called the purple line, the light rail— it's called the purple line, the light rail line, _ it's called the purple line, the light rail line, 60 _ it's called the purple line, the light rail line, 60 miles - it's called the purple line, the light rail line, 60 miles long, | it's called the purple line, the. light rail line, 60 miles long, it has already— light rail line, 60 miles long, it has already doubled _ light rail line, 60 miles long, it has already doubled in - light rail line, 60 miles long, it has already doubled in terms . light rail line, 60 miles long, it| has already doubled in terms of cost _ has already doubled in terms of cost. doubled _ has already doubled in terms of cost. doubled in— has already doubled in terms of cost. doubled in terms - has already doubled in terms of cost. doubled in terms of- has already doubled in terms ofi cost. doubled in terms of length has already doubled in terms of. cost. doubled in terms of length of construction — cost. doubled in terms of length of construction. but _ cost. doubled in terms of length of construction. but it— cost. doubled in terms of length of construction. but it has— cost. doubled in terms of length of construction. but it has to - construction. but it has to get done — construction. but it has to get done i— construction. but it has to get done ijust _ construction. but it has to get done. ijust don't _ construction. but it has to get done. ijust don't think- construction. but it has to get done. ijust don't think we - construction. but it has to get done. ijust don't think we do| done. ijust don't think we do big of a structure _ done. ijust don't think we do big of a structure well _ done. ijust don't think we do big of a structure well any _ done. ijust don't think we do big of a structure well any more. - done. ijust don't think we do bigj of a structure well any more. the density— of a structure well any more. the density in — of a structure well any more. the density in particular— of a structure well any more. the density in particular in— of a structure well any more. the density in particular in urban - density in particular in urban areas. — density in particular in urban areas. of— density in particular in urban areas, of the _ density in particular in urban areas, of the living - density in particular in urban areas, of the living and - density in particular in urban i areas, of the living and housing density in particular in urban - areas, of the living and housing and infrastructure — areas, of the living and housing and infrastructure and _ areas, of the living and housing and infrastructure and the _ areas, of the living and housing and infrastructure and the lines, - areas, of the living and housing and infrastructure and the lines, sewer. infrastructure and the lines, sewer lines. _ infrastructure and the lines, sewer lines, electrical— infrastructure and the lines, sewer lines, electrical lines, _ infrastructure and the lines, sewer lines, electrical lines, all- infrastructure and the lines, sewer lines, electrical lines, all of- lines, electrical lines, all of that, — lines, electrical lines, all of that, it _ lines, electrical lines, all of that, it is _ lines, electrical lines, all of that, it is so _ lines, electrical lines, all of that, it is so hard _ lines, electrical lines, all of that, it is so hard to- lines, electrical lines, all of- that, it is so hard to reconfigure that, it is so hard to reconfigure that infrastructure _ that, it is so hard to reconfigure that infrastructure that - that, it is so hard to reconfigure that infrastructure that it - that, it is so hard to reconfigure that infrastructure that itjust. that, it is so hard to reconfigure that infrastructure that itjust is| that infrastructure that itjust is never— that infrastructure that itjust is never as— that infrastructure that itjust is never as optimistic— that infrastructure that itjust is never as optimistic as - that infrastructure that itjust is never as optimistic as the - that infrastructure that itjust is never as optimistic as the firstl never as optimistic as the first projections _ never as optimistic as the first projections are. _ never as optimistic as the first projections are. that - never as optimistic as the first projections are. that said, - never as optimistic as the firstl projections are. that said, over time, _ projections are. that said, over time, these _ projections are. that said, over time, these kinds _ projections are. that said, over time, these kinds of— projections are. that said, over time, these kinds of rail- projections are. that said, over. time, these kinds of rail projects can truly— time, these kinds of rail projects can truly transform _ time, these kinds of rail projects can truly transform regions, - time, these kinds of rail projects. can truly transform regions, make them _ can truly transform regions, make them cleaner, _ can truly transform regions, make them cleaner, easier, _ can truly transform regions, make them cleaner, easier, more - them cleaner, easier, more accessible _ them cleaner, easier, more accessible and _ them cleaner, easier, more accessible and equitable. . them cleaner, easier, morel accessible and equitable. so them cleaner, easier, more - accessible and equitable. so they are major— accessible and equitable. so they are major investments, _ accessible and equitable. so they are major investments, just - are major investments, just oftentimes— are major investments, just oftentimes sold _ are major investments, just oftentimes sold added - are major investments, just oftentimes sold added —— l are major investments, just - oftentimes sold added —— lower cost and quicker— oftentimes sold added —— lower cost and quickertime _ oftentimes sold added —— lower cost and quicker time than _ oftentimes sold added —— lower cost and quicker time than they- oftentimes sold added —— lower cost and quicker time than they actually. and quicker time than they actually are. and quicker time than they actually are i— and quicker time than they actually are. . , and quicker time than they actually are, ., , ., and quicker time than they actually are. .,, ., ., ,., are. i was reading about in china and asking _ are. i was reading about in china and asking about _ are. i was reading about in china and asking about checks - are. i was reading about in china and asking about checks later. are. i was reading about in china| and asking about checks later on. are. i was reading about in china - and asking about checks later on. so no better. maybe that is the way to do it. lovely to have you on the programme, trevor. to south korea now where, for the first time there, a man has been sentenced to prison for producing child pornography using artificial intelligence. in april, the man created 360 sexually explicit images on an image—generating ai programme installed on a laptop, with commands including "10—years—old", "nude" and "child". that follows the story we covered yesterday in southern spain where naked images of school girls were circulating online. it's believed fully clothed pictures of girls aged 11—17, which had been uploaded onto their social media pages, were altered using an ai programme, so that they were pictured without their clothes on. live to san antonio, texas, to speak to david armano, an ai strategist and digital media expert. thank you for coming on the programme. we have two examples, in almost as many days of illegal images being uploaded onto the internet using artificial intelligence. it tells us we don't have the rules and regulations in place, does it not? that have the rules and regulations in place, does it not?— have the rules and regulations in place, does it not? that is correct. it is even more _ place, does it not? that is correct. it is even more than _ place, does it not? that is correct. it is even more than rules - place, does it not? that is correct. it is even more than rules and - it is even more than rules and regulations. we are going to have to learn cultural and societal ways to respond to these things. i want to thank the bbc for drawing attention to these stories because awareness is going to be key with all of these developments as ai becomes part of our everyday technology consumption. and creation. the problem at the moment is we don't have a traffic light system that flags for users and images that has been created using ai and surely without that we are in danger of flooding the internet with fake images that will just sit there. if that is the case, surely this is an accidental threat to the internet. —— existential. yes. we have had this existential threat before, for example deep fakes, especially in that story in spain, that has existed for a while. but with these generative ai tools and technologies, all that becomes accelerated. i was encouraged to see with the south korean example, you had mentioned the person had actually put in information so what they actually did is put in those terms, nude, ten—year—old, girl, they were put into a prompt box work comp fuelled which is how a lot of these generative ai technologies work. so if you think about how you search on google and use a search field, we know how law—enforcement now uses those, what is actually searched for, to make the case against people. it is encouraging to see that the same technique can be applied with things like these prompt fields which will be built into a lot of these ai tools. so the methods that we have are there, but the challenge is going to be, it will be in a reaction to. and really this is where awareness is key. there does need to be an update from a legal perspective, but also from a societal and cultural perspective. you just all my question there. i wasjust good to you just all my question there. i was just good to ask about corporate responsibility on the apple internet service? —— on the app. in responsibility on the apple internet service? -- on the app.— service? -- on the app. in the past we have had _ service? -- on the app. in the past we have had the _ service? -- on the app. in the past we have had the social _ service? -- on the app. in the past we have had the social networks i we have had the social networks saying that they are media companies so, i'm sorry that they are not media companies, so they are not beholden to the same rules. so we are likely to see more of the same there. although many of these companies have beefed up on the moderation and how they actually flagged images. that is actually, some of that is using algorithms which are powered by ai, but there are also people who have to train those algorithms and pour through scores of inappropriate content so they can train the algorithms as well. so it is happening. it is probably not happening at the skill he needs to. in that case that happened in spain, i think the images were uploaded on whatsapp, we need systems in place that can quickly flag those images. and then alert the right people. i quickly flag those images. and then alert the right people.— know about you, ten but if there is an image you don't like of yourself thatis an image you don't like of yourself that is on the internet and then you try to get in touch with google or yahoo or whoever to get that image taken down, it is pretty much impossible. that, surely is the concern. that these images could proliferate on the internet and there's not a lot we could do about it. . ., ., y there's not a lot we could do about it. . ., ., , , there's not a lot we could do about it. . .,.,_ ., there's not a lot we could do about it. technology is moving so fast that we are _ it. technology is moving so fast that we are always _ it. technology is moving so fast that we are always slow - it. technology is moving so fast that we are always slow to - it. technology is moving so fast that we are always slow to get i it. technology is moving so fast i that we are always slow to get on top of— that we are always slow to get on top of a _ that we are always slow to get on top of a problem. but the technology is also _ top of a problem. but the technology is also advancing through to our advantage to get in control of these horrible _ advantage to get in control of these horrible images as well. sol probably— horrible images as well. sol probably share your pessimism at the moment, _ probably share your pessimism at the moment, but we need to keep the political— moment, but we need to keep the political pressure, the public pressure _ political pressure, the public pressure on the internet companies to find _ pressure on the internet companies to find ways, using rapidly advancing technology, not least ai advancing technology, not least al to ensure — advancing technology, not least al to ensure they can get of the content _ to ensure they can get of the content. within the next few months. if content. within the next few months. if that _ content. within the next few months. if that means legal pressure to force _ if that means legal pressure to force them to hurry up their processes all the better. but, even those _ processes all the better. but, even those that— processes all the better. but, even those that images are ai generated they are _ those that images are ai generated they are stimulating a horrible desire, — they are stimulating a horrible desire, satisfying a horrible desire in people — desire, satisfying a horrible desire in people so we need to crack down on them _ in people so we need to crack down on them. we in people so we need to crack down on them. ~ ., ., on them. we will need to leave it there. thank you _ on them. we will need to leave it there. thank you for _ on them. we will need to leave it there. thank you for coming - on them. we will need to leave it there. thank you for coming onto the programme. around the world and across the uk, this is bbc news. bringing you different stories from across the uk. harry burns started as an apprentice at trent barton in 2011, but now he's an award winner. he's been named the best in the business after going up against a rival boss companies at a skills challenge. you go day—to—day doing yourjob to the best that you can. to compete against other people that that you would presume are better than yourself to actually go compete and beat them people it's nice to know that you you're good at what you're doing day—to—day. so the inspection one that i did was inspecting a vehicle, picking up faults with it. are they ok? are they not? and then categorising it to the inspection manual and the marking down what failure that would be in the category. but there's other tests, stripping down engines, tires and all sorts of air valves and braking system. harry's gone from being an apprentice to helping train new ones. trent barton has upped its investment this year and has taken on more than double the usual amount of apprentices. it's nice to to make a difference, and i feel like that the position i'm in i can make a difference. for more stories from across the uk, head to the bbc news website. now it's time for the panel. joel rubin we will start with your story, a development there because the canadian speaker has tonight resigned, the speaker of the lower house after encouraging his fellow parliamentarians to rise for a standing ovation for someone who had served in a nazi unit, care to explain? served in a nazi unit, care to exolain?_ served in a nazi unit, care to exlain? ., ,, , , ., ., explain? thank you. this is one of the most shameful— explain? thank you. this is one of the most shameful political- explain? thank you. this is one of i the most shameful political episodes of the _ the most shameful political episodes of the modern era and watching canadian — of the modern era and watching canadian parliament give a standing ovation _ canadian parliament give a standing ovation, applause to a former member of the _ ovation, applause to a former member of the world _ ovation, applause to a former member of the world war ii brigade. this gentleman should not have been applauded, he should have been arrested — applauded, he should have been arrested and sent to trial. what happened — arrested and sent to trial. what happened is that he was there, celebrating, freedom fighting of ukraine — celebrating, freedom fighting of ukraine in front of zelensky who is jewish— ukraine in front of zelensky who is jewish himself. it is a shameful, embarrassing episode and to add to that it _ embarrassing episode and to add to that it happens during the jewish hi-h that it happens during the jewish high holidays. we just had drunk a poor yesterday so it is a very painful— poor yesterday so it is a very painful the jewish community —— yom kippur~ _ painful the jewish community —— yom kippur. canada, it's not a surprise and he _ kippur. canada, it's not a surprise and he deceived in this way but canada — and he deceived in this way but canada prevented jews who were fleeing _ canada prevented jews who were fleeing nazi crimes, canada prevented them from entering. i think— prevented them from entering. i think the — prevented them from entering. i think the government of canada has never— think the government of canada has never fully— think the government of canada has never fully come to terms with that. now with _ never fully come to terms with that. now with the moment that we are in with anti—semitism rights and global loosely— with anti—semitism rights and global loosely -- _ with anti—semitism rights and global loosely —— rising globally, a tremendous amount of hate speech in the us— tremendous amount of hate speech in the us and _ tremendous amount of hate speech in the us and around the world and attacks— the us and around the world and attacks againstjewish the us and around the world and attacks against jewish communities physical— attacks against jewish communities physical and online and social media, — physical and online and social media, what we saw in the canadian parliament— media, what we saw in the canadian parliament wasjust media, what we saw in the canadian parliament was just beyond the parliament wasjust beyond the pale. and hopefully this resignation would be the _ and hopefully this resignation would be the start of a bit of accountability and a teaching moment. but this is a moment that really— moment. but this is a moment that really did _ moment. but this is a moment that really did bring shame to the canadian _ really did bring shame to the canadian parliament and is a very dark dav — canadian parliament and is a very dark da . . , canadian parliament and is a very darkda . ., ., dark day. untenable position for the seaker. dark day. untenable position for the speaker. quickly, _ dark day. untenable position for the speaker. quickly, tim, _ dark day. untenable position for the speaker. quickly, tim, a _ dark day. untenable position for the speaker. quickly, tim, a gargoyle . dark day. untenable position for the j speaker. quickly, tim, a gargoyle in wiltshire. tell us about it. i flipped from the serious. wiltshire. tell us about it. i flipped from the serious. but planning is a massive issue. people hate having their houses and the changes they want controlled by local planners. this gargoyle produced by someone who had been frustrated by a counsellor in my home countyjust made me chuckle today. and quite well done actually, the council leaders being a gargoyle took it in humour as well. so all is well the ends world. i’m took it in humour as well. so all is well the ends world.— took it in humour as well. so all is well the ends world. i'm sure there are a lot of — well the ends world. i'm sure there are a lot of people _ well the ends world. i'm sure there are a lot of people around - are a lot of people around the country who will share the frustration with local counsellors and planning laws. we are out of time, sorry to squeeze you on that story. joel rubin and tim montgomery. we will be back at the same time tomorrow. i hope you will join us for that. have a good evening. hello. all four home nations were in action tonight in the second round of group matches in the women's nations league... and there was no dream return home for england boss sarina weigman. england were beaten 2—1 by the netherlands in utrecht. martens put the dutch ahead, before alessia russo equalised after the break. renate jansen who scored a dramatic 90th minute winner for the netherlands. handing englander third defeat under the the coach. leaving it to the 94th minute to score an equaliser. sandra put the visitors in front. equalising deep in stoppage time with a header, means belgian topping the group. netherlands second followed by england, scotland or at the bottom. wells outplayed by brilliant denmark at cardiff city stadium. a hat trick to hand it wails a 5—1 defeat. it means wales are bottom of their group with zero points for two games. tanya oxtoby�*s first home game in charge of northern ireland ended in a 1—0 victory over albania... lauren wade the goal—scorer for the hosts on her 50th appearance for her country. tapping home from close range in the 57th minute. manchester united started their defence of the efl trophy. currently 3—0 up against crystal palace in an all premier league crash at old trafford. alejandro garnacho and casemiro gave the home side a 2—0 halftime lead. anthony added a third just before the hour mark. just three minutes left in that game. well that was one of seven games tonight. in the other ties... high flyers ipswich mounted a brilliant comeback from 2—0 down to be wolves. they had a goal disallowed before the full—time whistle. league1 disallowed before the full—time whistle. league 1 side exeter caused a cup of said as they had been beaten the newcomers, dimitri mitchell set off after five minutes of scoring. full details from all of tonight schemes on the bbc sport website and the app as well. —— games. the excitiment is building in rome... ahead of the ryder cup which gets started on friday... team europe will be looking to extend their home record and win the cup back from the usa. they'll be trying to do so with a team that features four debutants... captain luke donald says his team are ready to write a new chapter in ryder cup history. i think every team is different. this is a team that has some new faces and some guys that have been part of the ryder cup that are not here, but they understand it is their opportunity now to write their story and write their history this week and create, start writing and creating that history for themselves, so they are very excited to be here and very ready. team usa, arrived in rome with the trophy, and if they want to hold onto it, they'll have to win a ryder cup on european soilfor the first time for 30 years. however, they have a team featuring six of the worlds top ten golfers... and believe europes home record wont have any effect on the result this week: we were not on others losing teams. i was on a couple of them, but i played well, so it is like... justin played well. it does not matter to us, i guess. i said it at whistling straits after the round, i said it — this is really nice, but until we win over there, nobody can talk about a change in the ryder cup or the us or anything like that. the european teams have been very stout, very good, very deep, and this year is no different. it isjust difficult. i know what history says. i am very aware of that. at the same time, i can speak confidently and talk to my team. these guys are ready and want to embrace that difficulty and want to just look at this as a great opportunity. the third and final one day international beteen england and ireland was abandoned due to heavy rain... just, as the home side looked to be heading for a massive score. england raced away, scoring over a hundred runs in theirfirst ten overs. ben duckett scored his maiden odi century, and was on 107 from 78 balls before the skies opened at bristol, bringing proceedings to an early end. the teams went off with england on 280 for 4 after 31 overs. england have won the series 1—0, with the world cup starting in just 9 days' time. and that's all the sport for now. hello there. some evidence that we may see a steam to form something that really accelerates the wins and at its peak, allowed to see, the winds are modelled to reach 120 mph and costs. so ferocious winds staying well away from land. by the time agnes works its way across the uk it will be working in as a weakening area of low pressure. still when strong enough to bring some disruption as we see in at the moment. if you are outside of the moment you may notice winds picking up across wales and south was england, otherwise, a breezy kind of night, quite cool for scotland where there will be one or two shoppers, whether turning increasingly mild. as we head into the first part of wednesday morning. the strongest winds from agnes will be working through irish sea coast where gusts could reach 60—70 miles an hour, strong enough to bring some disruption. there will be a bright start with some sunshine for scotland in eastern england having a relatively quiet day. through the afternoon that we get this swathe of really strong winds moving in. the winds and strong enough to bring some power cuts, may be some transport disruption. maybe with cancellations or delays. maybe some trees blown over as well due to the strong winds. the winds continue overnight. across northern england and scotland, some very windy here wednesday night before agnes starts to clear out into the norwegian sea. we do not get a ridge of high pressure, just ahead of the neck system. —— we get. actually, for there is a it means that for a time we will see a slightly drier weather with a bit of sunshine with agnes working away before the next band of rain works its way in. still the rank be quite heavy in the west thursday afternoon. it continues to be mild, temperature is about 16-20 c be mild, temperature is about 16—20 c was not another relatively mild day on the cards for friday. there will be a lot of showers are on for scotland, northern ireland, the far north of them, perhaps merging together across the corner for scotland. where costs of the areas of wales it could be a dry day on friday with some warm spells of sunshine. temperatures 16—21. what about the weekend weather prospects? well, things look quite unsettled at the moment. we're looking at the risk of showers or some longer spells of rain for many of us this weekend. but it will stay on the mild side for now. at 10pm, the growing crisis of underage vaping. a senior doctor says advice suggesting it's effectively safe is failing too many youngsters. he says the claim that e—cigarettes are "95% safer" than cigarettes has hooked too many under—18s, with the long—term effects unknown. we've got it wrong. and that means we have to change. and, yeah, i think the 95% quote has not been helpful,