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on the united states joint exercises in the region. and this time next week the programme will be in new delhi for the 620 summit. what can we expect from india, who are hosting it for the first time? welcome back. grant shapps has had a very busy year. this is his fifth cabinet appointment. today, he was reassigned again — this time, to the ministry of defence. he replaces the outgoing ben wallace, who had previously served in the scots guards. the role of defence secretary has never been more important. just this morning, the royal navy said its warships and raf patrol aircraft were tracking russian vessels in waters close to the uk. here's our political editor chris mason. the wheels of politics are turning with a bit of zip again. before mps return next week, downing street has a spot of housekeeping to attend to — finding a new defence secretary. enter then grant shapps — the government's utility man has another newjob. it's his fifth — yes, fifth — cabinetjob in a year. this, then, the first of many uniformed companions for grant shapps, as he left downing street and headed for the ministry of defence. what is your first priority? first of all, i will get my feet in the door and pay tribute to my predecessor, i think. he's talking about this man, ben wallace, the former soldier—turned—defence secretary who had done the job for four years under three prime ministers. in his resignation letter he wrote... he also said... taking a step back, this was a safety first reshuffle. loyalty in the prime minister prized and, yes, limited in scale. chris mason, bbc news, at westminster. what we can say is that mr schapps is no stranger to ukraine. let me tell you about what i saw in ukraine today. just last, week he was in kyiv to see for himself how they were maintaining the energy infrastructure, which might now be seen an early introduction to president zelensky�*s team. and last year, he opened his home to a ukrainian family that was fleeing the war. but he has no experience in the armed forces, and he arrives at a time when there is immense pressure on the mod's resources. let's bring in the former chief of the defence staff, general lord dannatt, who now sits in the house of lords. it is argued plead the most importantjob in the cabinet right now, the defence budget is under pressure, is he the man who can make the case for more funding? the answer is _ the case for more funding? the answer is that _ the case for more funding? tie: answer is that time will tell. there is an open question now as to whether rishi sunak is appointing grant shapps as a safe pair of hands to support him as prime minister in the cabinet and to speak on the airwaves which he is adept at doing or is grant shapps going to really come to terms and get to grips with theissues come to terms and get to grips with the issues of defence which is probably the most significant issue in front of us at the present moment? the security of the nation has to be the number one responsibility of government. what responsibility of government. what about the broadside _ responsibility of government. what about the broadside from a few, most of them unknown, who says he does not get across to detail and he is not get across to detail and he is not someone familiar with the workings of the mod. do you need to be to do the job effectively? it be to do the job effectively? it doesn't matter. when i was chief of the general staff, a month before i took up my appointment, des browne came from being chief secretary to the treasury, the chief bean counter, and he knew nothing about defence, but he became a very good secretary of state for defence and we worked very well with him. previous experience does not matter but what really matters is whether he is prepared to get stuck into the brief and understand the complexities of defence and to listen to his otherwise very good team of defence ministers and the chiefs of staff, the chief of defence staff and the single service chiefs and then decide for himself whether the issues of defence are so pressing that he needs to press the issueis pressing that he needs to press the issue is himself in cabinet. if he has an open mind he will realise that ben wallace has been on the right side of the argument for the last four years and he has a duty on the half of the nation to continue to press the case for defence in cabinet and with the chancellor. irate cabinet and with the chancellor. we could all agree it is not any longer discretionary spending because we are in effect at war and we are making our2% are in effect at war and we are making our 2% commitment that we made to nato. one of the concerns is that in our rush to support the ukrainian forces, we have depleted our own inventory is? how concerned are you about that and what case we have to make within cabinet? he have to make within cabinet? tie: would have to make an urgent case, and take for example, one of the close support artillery regiments that supports the only british deployable division, it has got no guns. an artillery regiment with no guns. an artillery regiment with no guns. why? because we have given them all to ukraine, which is fine, but do we have a programme which can urgently replace them with alternatives. no, we don't. it will take some time and people are sceptical about that. we must support ukraine, it is in our national interest and european interest and in an hour later interest and in an hour later interest but we need have to increase our defence spending —— and increase our defence spending —— and in our nato interest. we need to make sure the safety and security of this country is as it should be so this country is as it should be so this is a big challenge and grant shapps has got to decide, easy going to go quietly in cabinet and support the prime minister or is he going to grasp the nettle and push the case for defence? i would like to think that where are some people say there are no votes in defence, the british people are not so stupid and they will realise their security is really important at the next election. t really important at the next election. ., really important at the next election. . ., , ., election. i want to bring in our -anel lanhee chen, republican former domestic and foreign policy adviser to mitt romney. grant shapps will have to make the case to the americans, the republicans, of which you are one, so is it new to make that case when you are new in thejob? —— is it easy to make that case. you are new in the job? -- is it easy to make that case.- you are new in the job? -- is it easy to make that case. what would make it easy — easy to make that case. what would make it easy is _ easy to make that case. what would make it easy is the _ easy to make that case. what would make it easy is the fact _ easy to make that case. what would make it easy is the fact that - easy to make that case. what would make it easy is the fact that grant . make it easy is the fact that grant shapps— make it easy is the fact that grant shapps with a fair amount of political— shapps with a fair amount of political acumen and expertise and in the _ political acumen and expertise and in the us, — political acumen and expertise and in the us, this conversation around american _ in the us, this conversation around american support for ukraine has become _ american support for ukraine has become politicised, as everything else is, _ become politicised, as everything else is, so— become politicised, as everything else is, so understanding the politics— else is, so understanding the politics of why continuing american support— politics of why continuing american suapori is— politics of why continuing american support is important, that is a case that we _ support is important, that is a case that we need to be made to republicans, because republicans are split on_ republicans, because republicans are split on the question of whether us support— split on the question of whether us support for ukraine should continue and what _ support for ukraine should continue and what level, and you saw the split _ and what level, and you saw the split in _ and what level, and you saw the split in the — and what level, and you saw the split in the first presidential debate _ split in the first presidential debate which happened last week. some _ debate which happened last week. some in_ debate which happened last week. some in the republican party believe that has— some in the republican party believe that has to _ some in the republican party believe that has to come back, and so having someone _ that has to come back, and so having someone who can make the case for the politics— someone who can make the case for the politics of why this is important, i hope to be crass, but at the _ important, i hope to be crass, but at the end — important, i hope to be crass, but at the end of the day what these politicians really care about is politically what are the implications of continuing support for ukraine at the level they are continuing — for ukraine at the level they are continuing with and it seems the new minister— continuing with and it seems the new minister is— continuing with and it seems the new minister is well—positioned to make those arguments. minister is well-positioned to make those arguments.— those arguments. what he will not acce -t is those arguments. what he will not accept is any _ those arguments. what he will not accept is any signal _ those arguments. what he will not accept is any signal that _ those arguments. what he will not accept is any signal that spending l accept is any signal that spending is discretionary. they will want to know that spending is being ramped up know that spending is being ramped up and they will want to hear it from him?— up and they will want to hear it from him? , . ,, , , from him? yes, and i think because he is somebody _ from him? yes, and i think because he is somebody who _ from him? yes, and i think because he is somebody who has _ from him? yes, and i think because he is somebody who has had - from him? yes, and i think because he is somebody who has had a - from him? yes, and i think because l he is somebody who has had a variety of experience, notjust in he is somebody who has had a variety of experience, not just in the defence _ of experience, not just in the defence sector but in other areas, that will— defence sector but in other areas, that will he — defence sector but in other areas, that will be helpful. this is a very fraught _ that will be helpful. this is a very fraught time for us involvement in ukraine _ fraught time for us involvement in ukraine and i do see a crumbling of the kind— ukraine and i do see a crumbling of the kind of— ukraine and i do see a crumbling of the kind of alliances that had been built in— the kind of alliances that had been built in the — the kind of alliances that had been built in the us which have supported this action _ built in the us which have supported this action so far, so it will be a delicate — this action so far, so it will be a delicate case to make but one that he will _ delicate case to make but one that he will have to begin making right away~ _ he will have to begin making right awa . , , ., he will have to begin making right awa . , , . . he will have to begin making right awa. , ., away. yes, it is a critical period because the — away. yes, it is a critical period because the resolve _ away. yes, it is a critical period because the resolve might - away. yes, it is a critical period i because the resolve might waver under these pressures especially in the winter months. andrew fisher, let me get you to do the politics of theirs, and in terms of the number of times he has been reshuffled, five times, why him for the job? of times he has been reshuffled, five times, why him for thejob? it five times, why him for the job? it reflects the fact he is a very adaptable _ reflects the fact he is a very adaptable minister- reflects the fact he is a very adaptable minister and - reflects the fact he is a very . adaptable minister and people reflects the fact he is a very - adaptable minister and people have talked _ adaptable minister and people have talked about — adaptable minister and people have talked about him _ adaptable minister and people have talked about him being _ adaptable minister and people have talked about him being within- talked about him being within westminster, _ talked about him being within westminster, being - talked about him being within westminster, being quite - westminster, being quite lightweight, _ westminster, being quite lightweight, but - westminster, being quite lightweight, but a - westminster, being quite lightweight, but a good . westminster, being quite - lightweight, but a good articular performer— lightweight, but a good articular performer in _ lightweight, but a good articular performer in the _ lightweight, but a good articular performer in the media - lightweight, but a good articular performer in the media and - lightweight, but a good articular performer in the media and thatj lightweight, but a good articular. performer in the media and that is may be _ performer in the media and that is may be a — performer in the media and that is may be a strength _ performer in the media and that is may be a strength but _ performer in the media and that is may be a strength but also - performer in the media and that is may be a strength but also a - may be a strength but also a weakness _ may be a strength but also a weakness -- _ may be a strength but also a weakness —— articulate. - may be a strength but also a weakness —— articulate. he i may be a strength but also a . weakness —— articulate. he has may be a strength but also a - weakness —— articulate. he has a tough _ weakness —— articulate. he has a tough act — weakness —— articulate. he has a tough act to— weakness —— articulate. he has a tough act to follow— weakness —— articulate. he has a tough act to follow in _ weakness —— articulate. he has a tough act to follow in ben - weakness —— articulate. he has ai tough act to follow in ben wallace so i'm _ tough act to follow in ben wallace so i'm not— tough act to follow in ben wallace so i'm not praising _ tough act to follow in ben wallace so i'm not praising him _ tough act to follow in ben wallace so i'm not praising him unduly- so i'm not praising him unduly because — so i'm not praising him unduly because i'm _ so i'm not praising him unduly because i'm not _ so i'm not praising him unduly because i'm not a _ so i'm not praising him unduly because i'm not a fan - so i'm not praising him unduly because i'm not a fan of- so i'm not praising him unduly because i'm not a fan of the l because i'm not a fan of the conservatives— because i'm not a fan of the conservatives but— because i'm not a fan of the conservatives but he - because i'm not a fan of the conservatives but he kept. because i'm not a fan of the i conservatives but he kept his because i'm not a fan of the - conservatives but he kept hisjob under— conservatives but he kept hisjob under boris — conservatives but he kept hisjob under borisjohnson, _ conservatives but he kept hisjob under borisjohnson, liz- conservatives but he kept hisjob under boris johnson, liz truss i conservatives but he kept hisjob. under boris johnson, liz truss and rishi _ under boris johnson, liz truss and rishi sunak— under boris johnson, liz truss and rishi sunak and _ under boris johnson, liz truss and rishi sunak and they— under boris johnson, liz truss and rishi sunak and they kept - under boris johnson, liz truss and rishi sunak and they kept him - under boris johnson, liz truss and rishi sunak and they kept him in. rishi sunak and they kept him in place _ rishi sunak and they kept him in place for— rishi sunak and they kept him in place for a — rishi sunak and they kept him in place for a reason, _ rishi sunak and they kept him in place for a reason, because - rishi sunak and they kept him in place for a reason, because we i rishi sunak and they kept him in. place for a reason, because we are at war— place for a reason, because we are at war effectively, _ place for a reason, because we are at war effectively, supporting - at war effectively, supporting ukraine — at war effectively, supporting ukraine in— at war effectively, supporting ukraine in a _ at war effectively, supporting ukraine in a conflict - at war effectively, supporting ukraine in a conflict with - at war effectively, supporting. ukraine in a conflict with russia. he had _ ukraine in a conflict with russia. he had gained _ ukraine in a conflict with russia. he had gained a _ ukraine in a conflict with russia. he had gained a lot— ukraine in a conflict with russia. he had gained a lot of— ukraine in a conflict with russia. he had gained a lot of respect. he had gained a lot of respect within— he had gained a lot of respect within the _ he had gained a lot of respect within the military, _ he had gained a lot of respect within the military, and - he had gained a lot of respect within the military, and also l he had gained a lot of respect- within the military, and also across parliament, — within the military, and also across parliament, and _ within the military, and also across parliament, and grant _ within the military, and also across parliament, and grant shapps- within the military, and also across parliament, and grant shapps is. within the military, and also across parliament, and grant shapps is al parliament, and grant shapps is a very different _ parliament, and grant shapps is a very different political _ parliament, and grant shapps is a very different political beast - parliament, and grant shapps is a very different political beast and i very different political beast and he is _ very different political beast and he is seen — very different political beast and he is seen as— very different political beast and he is seen as much— very different political beast and he is seen as much more - very different political beast and he is seen as much more partyi he is seen as much more party political— he is seen as much more party political and _ he is seen as much more party political and much _ he is seen as much more party political and much more - he is seen as much more party. political and much more partisan. he is seen as much more party- political and much more partisan. a bit like _ political and much more partisan. a bit like john — political and much more partisan. a bit like john reid _ political and much more partisan. a bit like john reid who _ political and much more partisan. a bit like john reid who played - political and much more partisan. a bit like john reid who played a - bit like john reid who played a similar— bit like john reid who played a similar role _ bit like john reid who played a similar role for— bit like john reid who played a similar role for the _ bit like john reid who played a similar role for the last - bit like john reid who played a similar role for the last labourj similar role for the last labour government. _ similar role for the last labour government. a _ similar role for the last labour government, a fighter- similar role for the last labour government, a fighter in - similar role for the last labour government, a fighter in the l similar role for the last labour- government, a fighter in the media rather— government, a fighter in the media rather than — government, a fighter in the media rather than a — government, a fighter in the media rather than a minister— government, a fighter in the media rather than a minister who - government, a fighter in the media rather than a minister who gets - rather than a minister who gets things— rather than a minister who gets things done _ rather than a minister who gets things done which _ rather than a minister who gets things done which is— rather than a minister who gets things done which is why - rather than a minister who gets things done which is why he - rather than a minister who gets| things done which is why he has rather than a minister who gets - things done which is why he has been shifted _ things done which is why he has been shifted around — things done which is why he has been shifted around rather— things done which is why he has been shifted around rather than _ things done which is why he has been shifted around rather than being - shifted around rather than being allowed — shifted around rather than being attowed to— shifted around rather than being allowed to get _ shifted around rather than being allowed to get on _ shifted around rather than being allowed to get on with _ shifted around rather than being allowed to get on with a - shifted around rather than being i allowed to get on with a particular brief _ allowed to get on with a particular brief it's— allowed to get on with a particular brief it's an — allowed to get on with a particular brief. it's an interesting _ brief. it's an interesting appointment— brief. it's an interesting appointment and - brief. it's an interesting appointment and i'm i brief. it's an interesting - appointment and i'm surprised someone — appointment and i'm surprised someone from _ appointment and i'm surprised someone from within - appointment and i'm surprised someone from within the - appointment and i'm surprised i someone from within the defence appointment and i'm surprised - someone from within the defence team was not _ someone from within the defence team was not promoted — someone from within the defence team was not promoted actually, _ someone from within the defence team was not promoted actually, to - someone from within the defence team was not promoted actually, to have - someone from within the defence team was not promoted actually, to have a l was not promoted actually, to have a bit more _ was not promoted actually, to have a bit more consistency, _ was not promoted actually, to have a bit more consistency, but _ was not promoted actually, to have a bit more consistency, but will- was not promoted actually, to have a bit more consistency, but will be - bit more consistency, but will be interesting — bit more consistency, but will be interesting to _ bit more consistency, but will be interesting to see _ bit more consistency, but will be interesting to see how— bit more consistency, but will be interesting to see how he - bit more consistency, but will be interesting to see how he gets . bit more consistency, but will bei interesting to see how he gets on because _ interesting to see how he gets on because it — interesting to see how he gets on because it is _ interesting to see how he gets on because it is a _ interesting to see how he gets on because it is a serious _ interesting to see how he gets on because it is a serious situation . interesting to see how he gets on| because it is a serious situation at the moment— because it is a serious situation at the moment with _ because it is a serious situation at the moment with ukraine - because it is a serious situation at the moment with ukraine and - because it is a serious situation atl the moment with ukraine and what else is— the moment with ukraine and what else is going — the moment with ukraine and what else is going on _ the moment with ukraine and what else is going on in _ the moment with ukraine and what else is going on in the _ the moment with ukraine and what else is going on in the world. - the moment with ukraine and what else is going on in the world. lordl else is going on in the world. lord dannatt, thanks _ else is going on in the world. lord dannatt, thanks for _ else is going on in the world. dannatt, thanks forjoining us. well, one theatre of operations that is becoming increasingly important to nato and its allies is the south china sea. and this past few weeks there has been plenty going on. the united states and its allies have been running joint military exercises with australia and the philippines, there has been a series of mock beach landings and air assault manoeuvres. it comes against a backdrop of growing regional tension. china continues to assert its sovereignty over almost the entire south china sea, one of the world's busiest sea lanes, despite a un—backed tribunal ruling that is tribunal ruling that its claims are groundless. analysts say washington is intent on sending a message to china, that the alliance is in lockstep and will not be intimidated. our asia pacific correspondent laura bicker reports from the island of palawan. on the edge of this filipino paradise, survival depends on the sea. if you don't fish, you don't eat. they are used to battling wind and tide. but this country is also in a standoff with beijing over who owns which part of the south china sea. the crew of this boat used to fish near contested waters and from the age of ia the deputy captain spent months on those shoals, but not anymore. translation: we might not return there, ma'am. - we are now scared. the fishermen have been asked tojoin a militia to help defend filipino territory. but life is already bathed in saltwater and sweat while steering boats made of simple bamboo. they have no wish to take on a global superpower. if we guard it, how could we feed ourfamilies? what we need is to fish. that's our goal. out in the sea. the chinese might fire their water cannons. we just have a wooden boat. we're really afraid of going back there. this is what the fishermen are afraid of. the chinese fired their water cannons at the filipino coast guard earlier this month. these are philippine waters, according to un law. resolved to keep hold of their reefs, manila deliberately ran aground a rusting world war two ship on what is known as a shoal. but recent monthly efforts to supply troops on board with food and water have become increasingly tense. china argues that it is doing what is necessary to protect its sovereignty, its claims over the south china sea. the problem is, beijing's tactics and beijing's actions are pushing american allies in this region closer together against what they see as aggression. rapid gunfire. in a show of solidarity, australia held its first large scale joint exercises with the philippines last week. they practiced retaking an enemy controlled island. and in manila bay, japanese and us navy warships sit side by side ready forjoint drills. allied support has emboldened the philippines to speak out. really, it is a david versus goliath issue. butjust like david, they will continue to pound and double down on the need to protect the resources which are important for the future of the philippines. the outcome of this dispute could have a profound impact here. where once their future was determined by ocean currents, now it may depend on the resolve of world leaders. laura bicker, bbc news, palawan. joining me now is tiffany ma, from the bower group asia. thanks forjoining us. the pentagon hopes the exercises will act as a form of deterrent. are you concerned it might push china into a corner? i think august, looking back, is a pivotal month in the south china sea, and we mention the philippines and we started off with a blockade of the sierra madre a and then add a series of exercises. all of these are actions between the us and their allies to show resolve to china, and it is unclear that despite the increasing numbers of tools that the us and its allies having its tool box, whether china remains to be deterred, but it sends an incredibly strong signal resolve especially given it is australia and the philippines�*s largest exercise to date and we are seeing under a new philippine administration where the government is taking a closer step towards the us, unlike the previous administration. the towards the us, unlike the previous administration.— administration. the “ury is still out on newt administration. the “ury is still out on how china _ administration. the jury is still out on how china will - administration. the jury is still| out on how china will respond? administration. the jury is still - out on how china will respond? there is a downturn in the economy there and one thinks there might be a charm offensive but the other side thanks that may it starts to turn attentions to taiwan and the south china sea to distract the public from domestic challenges at home. which way will it go? that from domestic challenges at home. which way will it go?— which way will it go? that was the million-dollar _ which way will it go? that was the million-dollar question. _ which way will it go? that was the million-dollar question. what - which way will it go? that was the million-dollar question. what we | which way will it go? that was the i million-dollar question. what we are million—dollar question. what we are seeing in the taiwan strait is related to what we are seeing in the south china sea, where china has unresolved territorial disputes and these are considered by beijing as part of its core interest and it is developing the military capabilities and economic capabilities to try and push countries it is in dispute with to resolve these outcomes. from the perspective of beijing, they have had mixed success and they have raised a significant risk of countries pushing back with the us and its allies, because for the us and its allies, because for the us and its allies, these actions from china are seen as a challenge to the original rules —based order. igrai’hdt original rules -based order. what about south _ original rules -based order. what about south korea? _ original rules —based order. what about south korea? south korea does not take much of an interest in the south china sea. but it is now. does that make a difference? igrai’hdt south china sea. but it is now. does that make a difference?— that make a difference? what is really interesting _ that make a difference? what is really interesting with _ that make a difference? what is really interesting with south - that make a difference? what is i really interesting with south korea is what we are seeing happening in cape david this week, conversations and cooperation between the us and japan and south korea —— camp david. not only do south korea and japan have their own issues but they are also important us allies in a range of potential contingencies and flashpoints in the northeast asia, whether it is taiwan or the korean peninsula, so south korea being more involved in the multilateral approaches to regional security is very encouraging.— approaches to regional security is very encouraging. tiffany, we have not to very encouraging. tiffany, we have got to leave _ very encouraging. tiffany, we have got to leave it _ very encouraging. tiffany, we have got to leave it for _ very encouraging. tiffany, we have got to leave it for now. _ very encouraging. tiffany, we have got to leave it for now. we - very encouraging. tiffany, we have got to leave it for now. we will. very encouraging. tiffany, we have got to leave it for now. we will go | got to leave it for now. we will go to a short break. let's look at some other stories making news. a police officer driving a van who followed two teenagers before they both died in an e—bike crash is being investigated for dangerous driving. 16—year—old kyrees sullivan and harvey evans, who was 15, died after the bike they were riding crashed in ely, cardiff, in may. the deaths led to riots which saw 15 officers injured and dozens arrested. the former conservative mp antoinette sandbach has asked to be removed from an academic�*s research that connects her to a slave—owning ancestor. malik al nasir named ms sandbach as a descendant of samuel sandbach, a liverpool merchant who had a stake in plantations in the west indies, in a 2021 video. she argues there's no public interest in identifying her. a last—minute deal to save the collapsed retailer wilko has fallen through. hundreds ofjob losses are expected to follow. the discount chain went into administration earlier this month, although for now it's stores remain open. you're live with bbc news. there are 1.8 million british indians. they are the largest ethnic minority group here in the uk and an increasingly important part of the electorate. next week, rishi sunak will travel to new delhi for the 620 summit. quite a moment. two hindu heads of government — the old power and the new — which you might think would bring them closer together. but it is not always a smooth relationship. not least because of britain's colonial history. and for prime minister modi, it is important, always has been, that internationally india, a growing super power, stands alone. he steers a delicate line between east and west. under pressure from the white house, he has refused to distance himself from vladimir putin. in fact, they have taken full advantage of the embargo europe has imposed, buying up the cheaper oil available. so what sort of summit will this be? what can britain get out of it? what does india, as host, want the 620 to deliver? james heale hasjust written a fascinating article for the spectator. what is the answer? what does india want out of the 620? abs, what is the answer? what does india want out of the 620? ah. lat what is the answer? what does india want out of the g20?— want out of the g20? a lot of different things _ want out of the g20? a lot of different things and - want out of the g20? a lot of different things and in - want out of the g20? a lot of different things and in terms | want out of the g20? a lot of. different things and in terms of want out of the g20? a lot of- different things and in terms of the british context, we are working on a trade deal which has been in talks for the best part of two years, and there is also conversations about what that will involve in terms of visas being a part of it and what kind of access and tariffs will be part of that but is one element. you look at the post—war tradition, they have tried to steer a middle way, between the west and the east, and that will be a key flashpoint in the summit because on the one hand, they have quinn to board oil purchases from russia but there is also the clashes going on with china and a keeper at the british strategy will be trying to convince india they have an interest in working together to act as a boardwalk against the rise of china in the coming decades ahead. , rise of china in the coming decades ahead. w' , ~ ., ahead. tell me quickly, ukraine, the did ahead. tell me quickly, ukraine, they did rrot _ ahead. tell me quickly, ukraine, they did not get _ ahead. tell me quickly, ukraine, they did not get an _ ahead. tell me quickly, ukraine, they did not get an agreement . they did not get an agreement because china and russia are sitting at the table and would veto any agreement, so how would it be treated in new delhi next week? in economic terms it is the elephant in the room. we economic terms it is the elephant in the room. ~ ., economic terms it is the elephant in the room. ~ . . ., , economic terms it is the elephant in the room. . . . , , the room. we have already seen vladimir putin _ the room. we have already seen vladimir putin and _ the room. we have already seen vladimir putin and xi _ the room. we have already seen vladimir putin and xi jinping - the room. we have already seen vladimir putin and xi jinping are| vladimir putin and xijinping are not going to go to the summit, so if you are looking in terms of the communicate that the summits produce, it is unlikely to produce the kind of communication are working towards a statement that we were hoping to, and i think it will be something that will be something that deals with clean energy and climate change and green development which is something everyone can get around but we are going to see stand—offs and flashpoints and this is something the british would rather talk about, to china in this contest. —— context. brute rather talk about, to china in this contest. -- context.— rather talk about, to china in this contest. -- context. we were talking last week about _ contest. -- context. we were talking last week about the _ contest. -- context. we were talking last week about the summit - contest. -- context. we were talking last week about the summit and - contest. -- context. we were talking last week about the summit and this| last week about the summit and this was a counterbalance to the 620 but we have nowjust spoke about the south china sea and there are border tensions between china and india so there is an opportunity for the west to get in there and may be appealed to get in there and may be appealed to prime minister modi? —— may be appeal. to prime minister modi? -- may be a- eal. , to prime minister modi? -- may be aueal. , ,, appeal. there is. especially in the us in particular, _ appeal. there is. especially in the us in particular, but _ appeal. there is. especially in the us in particular, but there - appeal. there is. especially in the us in particular, but there is - appeal. there is. especially in the us in particular, but there is a - us in particular, but there is a view— us in particular, but there is a view that— us in particular, but there is a view that india can be a stable and reliable _ view that india can be a stable and reliable partner going forward as a hedge _ reliable partner going forward as a hedge against what is undoubtedly increasing tension with the people's republic— increasing tension with the people's republic of china and there has been reporting _ republic of china and there has been reporting as recently an hour ago in some _ reporting as recently an hour ago in some us _ reporting as recently an hour ago in some us media outlets that president xi jinping _ some us media outlets that president xi jinping will not attend the 620 and that— xi jinping will not attend the 620 and that should not be a surprise given— and that should not be a surprise given where it is, first of all, and the fact— given where it is, first of all, and the fact that you have these increasing tensions between the west and china _ increasing tensions between the west and china. it is an opportunity for the us— and china. it is an opportunity for the us and — and china. it is an opportunity for the us and other western countries to build _ the us and other western countries to build a _ the us and other western countries to build a continuing alliance with as well— to build a continuing alliance with as well as — to build a continuing alliance with as well as a measure of support with the indian _ as well as a measure of support with the indian government but that being said, the indian government but that being said. itll— the indian government but that being said, it'll be interesting to see what _ said, it'll be interesting to see what topics of come up and how bland of a communique comes out of this and then— of a communique comes out of this and then fundamentally going forward, what pathway there will be in the _ forward, what pathway there will be in the us— forward, what pathway there will be in the us engagement with india given— in the us engagement with india given that there is not only tension between _ given that there is not only tension between the us and china but also tension _ between the us and china but also tension between india and china as well _ tension between india and china as well l— tension between india and china as well. ., �* ~' ., tension between india and china as well. ~' ., tension between india and china as well. ., �* ~ ., . . well. i don't know if you have read the article — well. i don't know if you have read the article by _ well. i don't know if you have read the article by james _ well. i don't know if you have read the article by james but _ well. i don't know if you have read the article by james but he - well. i don't know if you have read the article by james but he talks i the article by james but he talks about the base brexit deal tilt towards the indo—pacific region and we have done a deal with japan already and also with australia, so why don't we have an indian trade to —— trade deal? ftithe why don't we have an indian trade to -- trade deal?— -- trade deal? one of the main negotiating _ -- trade deal? one of the main negotiating task _ -- trade deal? one of the main negotiating task from _ -- trade deal? one of the main negotiating task from the - -- trade deal? one of the main| negotiating task from the indian side is _ negotiating task from the indian side is greater— negotiating task from the indian side is greater access _ negotiating task from the indian side is greater access to - negotiating task from the indian side is greater access to the - negotiating task from the indian side is greater access to the uk| side is greater access to the uk through— side is greater access to the uk through visas _ side is greater access to the uk through visas especially- side is greater access to the uk| through visas especially student visas _ through visas especially student visas and — through visas especially student visas and other— through visas especially student visas and other work— through visas especially student visas and other work visas. - through visas especially student visas and other work visas. and| through visas especially student. visas and other work visas. and the government— visas and other work visas. and the government is— visas and other work visas. and the government is reluctant _ visas and other work visas. and the government is reluctant to - visas and other work visas. and the government is reluctant to do - visas and other work visas. and the government is reluctant to do this. government is reluctant to do this given— government is reluctant to do this given the — government is reluctant to do this given the patient _ government is reluctant to do this given the patient they _ government is reluctant to do this given the patient they are - government is reluctant to do this given the patient they are under, i given the patient they are under, self-imposed _ given the patient they are under, self—imposed predominately, - given the patient they are under, . self—imposed predominately, about getting _ self—imposed predominately, about getting immigration— self—imposed predominately, about getting immigration down— self—imposed predominately, about getting immigration down —— - self—imposed predominately, about getting immigration down —— given| getting immigration down —— given the pressure — getting immigration down —— given the pressure they— getting immigration down —— given the pressure they are _ getting immigration down —— given the pressure they are under. - getting immigration down —— giveni the pressure they are under. clearly they cannot — the pressure they are under. clearly they cannot say _ the pressure they are under. clearly they cannot say that _ the pressure they are under. clearly they cannot say that to _ the pressure they are under. clearly they cannot say that to a _ the pressure they are under. clearly they cannot say that to a domestic. they cannot say that to a domestic audience _ they cannot say that to a domestic audience and _ they cannot say that to a domestic audience and then— they cannot say that to a domestic audience and then hand _ they cannot say that to a domestic audience and then hand out - they cannot say that to a domestic audience and then hand out an- they cannot say that to a domestic. audience and then hand out an open door policy— audience and then hand out an open door policy to — audience and then hand out an open door policy to india _ audience and then hand out an open door policy to india which _ audience and then hand out an open door policy to india which is - audience and then hand out an open door policy to india which is what . door policy to india which is what it wants — door policy to india which is what it wants. there _ door policy to india which is what it wants. there is _ door policy to india which is what it wants. there is a _ door policy to india which is what it wants. there is a tension - door policy to india which is whatj it wants. there is a tension there within— it wants. there is a tension there within the — it wants. there is a tension there within the british _ it wants. there is a tension there within the british government. i it wants. there is a tension there i within the british government. india is rightly— within the british government. india is rightly holding _ within the british government. india is rightly holding outfit, _ within the british government. india is rightly holding outfit, it— within the british government. india is rightly holding outfit, it is- within the british government. india is rightly holding outfit, it is in- is rightly holding outfit, it is in their— is rightly holding outfit, it is in their economic— is rightly holding outfit, it is in their economic interests. - is rightly holding outfit, it is in their economic interests. —— l is rightly holding outfit, it is in- their economic interests. —— rightly holding _ their economic interests. —— rightly holding out— their economic interests. —— rightly holding out for _ their economic interests. —— rightly holding out for it. _ their economic interests. —— rightly holding out for it. the _ their economic interests. —— rightly holding out for it. the mild - holding out for it. the mild downturn _ holding out for it. the mild downturn in _ holding out for it. the mild downturn in china - holding out for it. the mild downturn in china has- holding out for it. the mild| downturn in china has been holding out for it. the mild - downturn in china has been referred to but— downturn in china has been referred to but india — downturn in china has been referred to but india is— downturn in china has been referred to but india is in _ downturn in china has been referred to but india is in a _ downturn in china has been referred to but india is in a worse _ downturn in china has been referred to but india is in a worse state - downturn in china has been referred to but india is in a worse state and i to but india is in a worse state and they have — to but india is in a worse state and they have introduced _ to but india is in a worse state and they have introduced an _ to but india is in a worse state and they have introduced an export - to but india is in a worse state and| they have introduced an export ban which _ they have introduced an export ban which could — they have introduced an export ban which could actually— they have introduced an export ban which could actually put _ they have introduced an export ban which could actually put up - they have introduced an export ban which could actually put up food . which could actually put up food price _ which could actually put up food price inflation _ which could actually put up food price inflation again. _ which could actually put up food price inflation again. there - which could actually put up food price inflation again. there are. price inflation again. there are real issues— price inflation again. there are real issues with _ price inflation again. there are real issues with india - price inflation again. there are real issues with india and - price inflation again. there are real issues with india and i- price inflation again. there are real issues with india and idol price inflation again. there are i real issues with india and i do not think— real issues with india and i do not think it _ real issues with india and i do not think it will — real issues with india and i do not think it will be — real issues with india and i do not think it will be plain— real issues with india and i do not think it will be plain sailing - real issues with india and i do not think it will be plain sailing to- think it will be plain sailing to -et think it will be plain sailing to get anything _ think it will be plain sailing to get anything done. _ think it will be plain sailing to get anything done. the - think it will be plain sailing to get anything done. the 620 i think it will be plain sailing to| get anything done. the 620 is think it will be plain sailing to- get anything done. the 620 is pretty much _ get anything done. the 620 is pretty much a _ get anything done. the 620 is pretty much a talking — get anything done. the 620 is pretty much a talking shop _ get anything done. the 620 is pretty much a talking shop because - get anything done. the 620 is pretty much a talking shop because of- get anything done. the 620 is pretty much a talking shop because of the i much a talking shop because of the divisions— much a talking shop because of the divisions and — much a talking shop because of the divisions and the _ much a talking shop because of the divisions and the communique - much a talking shop because of the divisions and the communique willi much a talking shop because of the . divisions and the communique will be bland _ divisions and the communique will be bland but— divisions and the communique will be bland but what— divisions and the communique will be bland but what is _ divisions and the communique will be bland but what is interesting - divisions and the communique will be bland but what is interesting is- divisions and the communique will be bland but what is interesting is the i bland but what is interesting is the bilateral— bland but what is interesting is the bilateral talks _ bland but what is interesting is the bilateral talks that— bland but what is interesting is the bilateral talks that happen - bland but what is interesting is the bilateral talks that happen at - bland but what is interesting is the bilateral talks that happen at the l bilateral talks that happen at the margins — bilateral talks that happen at the margins of— bilateral talks that happen at the margins of the _ bilateral talks that happen at the margins of the summit, - bilateral talks that happen at the margins of the summit, that - bilateral talks that happen at the margins of the summit, that is l bilateral talks that happen at the - margins of the summit, that is where the action— margins of the summit, that is where the action happens— margins of the summit, that is where the action happens as _ margins of the summit, that is where the action happens as it— margins of the summit, that is where the action happens as it were. - margins of the summit, that is where the action happens as it were. we. the action happens as it were. we have not the action happens as it were. have got to leave it there. we the action happens as it were.“ have got to leave it there. we are going to go into a break. we are going to go into a break. we are going to go to new delhi and focus on that next week. james's article has been good reading ahead of that visit so thanks for that and thanks for coming on the programme. on the other side of the break we will talk about artificial intelligence. do we need legislation now? it is developing so fast. one person in the uk says we have weeks, not months, to get some rules and regulations in place. stay with us. hello there. low pressure and its weather fronts brought a rather cloudy, damp day to many central, southern and western parts of the uk. quite a bit of sunshine, though, across scotland and north—east england. as we head into friday, this area of low pressure will be weakening, fizzling out and conditions will be improving. as we head into the weekend, into next week, high pressure will bring dry, sunny, warm weather for many of us. so these weather fronts, then, continue to bring outbreaks of rain through the evening and overnight. we could see an area of thundery rain move through the channel. may just graze southern counties of england. certainly wet nights in store for the channel islands. further north, rather cloudy with some patchy light rain and drizzle. quite a mild night in the south, but under clear skies in scotland, it'll be quite chilly. so, for friday, we start off with plenty of sunshine across most of scotland. southern scotland, northern ireland, northern england will see this weakening weather front, some spots of rain on it. it'll also be brightening up across other parts of england and wales through the afternoon. some sunshine, also a few showers on the heavy side in places, and feeling warmer, up to 22 degrees. as we move through friday night, that weather front across central areas will continue to fizzle out. clouds break up, and we'll see increasing clear skies. but that way leads to mist and fog to develop by dawn, certainly across parts of england, wales, into northern ireland. a mild night to come again first thing saturday, but it's not going to be quite as much as what we'll expect tonight. weekend, then, is looking dry, sunny and warm thanks to high pressure building in. there mayjust be the odd shower, and we will see these weather fronts just flirting with the far north of scotland. otherwise, most places will be fine and settled. we do start, though, with the mist and fog, some low cloud through saturday morning. and then that will tend to lift and burn away, and we should see plenty of sunshine. could develop into just the odd isolated shower across england and wales, but most places will be dry. it'll feel warmer — up to 23 degrees in the south, 20 degrees through central and eastern scotland. sunday, we do it all again. again, some early mist and fog. that'll clear to plenty of sunshine. this weather front will bring some wetter and breezier weather to the north and west of scotland. 18 degrees there for stornoway, but warmer further south. 21r—25 degrees across some central and southern areas. and that fine, dry, sunny, warm weather continues for the upcoming week, but towards the end of the week, we'll start to see some showers moving in off the atlantic. take 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on the united states joint exercises in the region. and this time next week the programme will be in new delhi for the 620 summit. what can we expect from india, who are hosting it for the first time? welcome back. grant shapps has had a very busy year. this is his fifth cabinet appointment. today, he was reassigned again — this time, to the ministry of defence. he replaces the outgoing ben wallace, who had previously served in the scots guards. the role of defence secretary has never been more important. just this morning, the royal navy said its warships and raf patrol aircraft were tracking russian vessels in waters close to the uk. here's our political editor chris mason. the wheels of politics are turning with a bit of zip again. before mps return next week, downing street has a spot of housekeeping to attend to — finding a new defence secretary. enter then grant shapps — the government's utility man has another newjob. it's his fifth — yes, fifth — cabinetjob in a year. this, then, the first of many uniformed companions for grant shapps, as he left downing street and headed for the ministry of defence. what is your first priority? first of all, i will get my feet in the door and pay tribute to my predecessor, i think. he's talking about this man, ben wallace, the former soldier—turned—defence secretary who had done the job for four years under three prime ministers. in his resignation letter he wrote... he also said... taking a step back, this was a safety first reshuffle. loyalty in the prime minister prized and, yes, limited in scale. chris mason, bbc news, at westminster. what we can say is that mr schapps is no stranger to ukraine. let me tell you about what i saw in ukraine today. just last, week he was in kyiv to see for himself how they were maintaining the energy infrastructure, which might now be seen an early introduction to president zelensky�*s team. and last year, he opened his home to a ukrainian family that was fleeing the war. but he has no experience in the armed forces, and he arrives at a time when there is immense pressure on the mod's resources. let's bring in the former chief of the defence staff, general lord dannatt, who now sits in the house of lords. it is argued plead the most importantjob in the cabinet right now, the defence budget is under pressure, is he the man who can make the case for more funding? the answer is _ the case for more funding? the answer is that _ the case for more funding? tie: answer is that time will tell. there is an open question now as to whether rishi sunak is appointing grant shapps as a safe pair of hands to support him as prime minister in the cabinet and to speak on the airwaves which he is adept at doing or is grant shapps going to really come to terms and get to grips with theissues come to terms and get to grips with the issues of defence which is probably the most significant issue in front of us at the present moment? the security of the nation has to be the number one responsibility of government. what responsibility of government. what about the broadside _ responsibility of government. what about the broadside from a few, most of them unknown, who says he does not get across to detail and he is not get across to detail and he is not someone familiar with the workings of the mod. do you need to be to do the job effectively? it be to do the job effectively? it doesn't matter. when i was chief of the general staff, a month before i took up my appointment, des browne came from being chief secretary to the treasury, the chief bean counter, and he knew nothing about defence, but he became a very good secretary of state for defence and we worked very well with him. previous experience does not matter but what really matters is whether he is prepared to get stuck into the brief and understand the complexities of defence and to listen to his otherwise very good team of defence ministers and the chiefs of staff, the chief of defence staff and the single service chiefs and then decide for himself whether the issues of defence are so pressing that he needs to press the issueis pressing that he needs to press the issue is himself in cabinet. if he has an open mind he will realise that ben wallace has been on the right side of the argument for the last four years and he has a duty on the half of the nation to continue to press the case for defence in cabinet and with the chancellor. irate cabinet and with the chancellor. we could all agree it is not any longer discretionary spending because we are in effect at war and we are making our2% are in effect at war and we are making our 2% commitment that we made to nato. one of the concerns is that in our rush to support the ukrainian forces, we have depleted our own inventory is? how concerned are you about that and what case we have to make within cabinet? he have to make within cabinet? tie: would have to make an urgent case, and take for example, one of the close support artillery regiments that supports the only british deployable division, it has got no guns. an artillery regiment with no guns. an artillery regiment with no guns. why? because we have given them all to ukraine, which is fine, but do we have a programme which can urgently replace them with alternatives. no, we don't. it will take some time and people are sceptical about that. we must support ukraine, it is in our national interest and european interest and in an hour later interest and in an hour later interest but we need have to increase our defence spending —— and increase our defence spending —— and in our nato interest. we need to make sure the safety and security of this country is as it should be so this country is as it should be so this is a big challenge and grant shapps has got to decide, easy going to go quietly in cabinet and support the prime minister or is he going to grasp the nettle and push the case for defence? i would like to think that where are some people say there are no votes in defence, the british people are not so stupid and they will realise their security is really important at the next election. t really important at the next election. ., really important at the next election. . ., , ., election. i want to bring in our -anel lanhee chen, republican former domestic and foreign policy adviser to mitt romney. grant shapps will have to make the case to the americans, the republicans, of which you are one, so is it new to make that case when you are new in thejob? —— is it easy to make that case. you are new in the job? -- is it easy to make that case.- you are new in the job? -- is it easy to make that case. what would make it easy — easy to make that case. what would make it easy is _ easy to make that case. what would make it easy is the _ easy to make that case. what would make it easy is the fact _ easy to make that case. what would make it easy is the fact that - easy to make that case. what would make it easy is the fact that grant . make it easy is the fact that grant shapps— make it easy is the fact that grant shapps with a fair amount of political— shapps with a fair amount of political acumen and expertise and in the _ political acumen and expertise and in the us, — political acumen and expertise and in the us, this conversation around american _ in the us, this conversation around american support for ukraine has become _ american support for ukraine has become politicised, as everything else is, _ become politicised, as everything else is, so— become politicised, as everything else is, so understanding the politics— else is, so understanding the politics of why continuing american support— politics of why continuing american suapori is— politics of why continuing american support is important, that is a case that we _ support is important, that is a case that we need to be made to republicans, because republicans are split on_ republicans, because republicans are split on the question of whether us support— split on the question of whether us support for ukraine should continue and what _ support for ukraine should continue and what level, and you saw the split _ and what level, and you saw the split in _ and what level, and you saw the split in the — and what level, and you saw the split in the first presidential debate _ split in the first presidential debate which happened last week. some _ debate which happened last week. some in_ debate which happened last week. some in the republican party believe that has— some in the republican party believe that has to _ some in the republican party believe that has to come back, and so having someone _ that has to come back, and so having someone who can make the case for the politics— someone who can make the case for the politics of why this is important, i hope to be crass, but at the _ important, i hope to be crass, but at the end — important, i hope to be crass, but at the end of the day what these politicians really care about is politically what are the implications of continuing support for ukraine at the level they are continuing — for ukraine at the level they are continuing with and it seems the new minister— continuing with and it seems the new minister is— continuing with and it seems the new minister is well—positioned to make those arguments. minister is well-positioned to make those arguments.— those arguments. what he will not acce -t is those arguments. what he will not accept is any _ those arguments. what he will not accept is any signal _ those arguments. what he will not accept is any signal that _ those arguments. what he will not accept is any signal that spending l accept is any signal that spending is discretionary. they will want to know that spending is being ramped up know that spending is being ramped up and they will want to hear it from him?— up and they will want to hear it from him? , . ,, , , from him? yes, and i think because he is somebody _ from him? yes, and i think because he is somebody who _ from him? yes, and i think because he is somebody who has _ from him? yes, and i think because he is somebody who has had - from him? yes, and i think because he is somebody who has had a - from him? yes, and i think because l he is somebody who has had a variety of experience, notjust in he is somebody who has had a variety of experience, not just in the defence _ of experience, not just in the defence sector but in other areas, that will— defence sector but in other areas, that will he — defence sector but in other areas, that will be helpful. this is a very fraught _ that will be helpful. this is a very fraught time for us involvement in ukraine _ fraught time for us involvement in ukraine and i do see a crumbling of the kind— ukraine and i do see a crumbling of the kind of— ukraine and i do see a crumbling of the kind of alliances that had been built in— the kind of alliances that had been built in the — the kind of alliances that had been built in the us which have supported this action _ built in the us which have supported this action so far, so it will be a delicate — this action so far, so it will be a delicate case to make but one that he will _ delicate case to make but one that he will have to begin making right away~ _ he will have to begin making right awa . , , ., he will have to begin making right awa . , , . . he will have to begin making right awa. , ., away. yes, it is a critical period because the — away. yes, it is a critical period because the resolve _ away. yes, it is a critical period because the resolve might - away. yes, it is a critical period i because the resolve might waver under these pressures especially in the winter months. andrew fisher, let me get you to do the politics of theirs, and in terms of the number of times he has been reshuffled, five times, why him for the job? of times he has been reshuffled, five times, why him for thejob? it five times, why him for the job? it reflects the fact he is a very adaptable _ reflects the fact he is a very adaptable minister- reflects the fact he is a very adaptable minister and - reflects the fact he is a very . adaptable minister and people reflects the fact he is a very - adaptable minister and people have talked _ adaptable minister and people have talked about — adaptable minister and people have talked about him _ adaptable minister and people have talked about him being _ adaptable minister and people have talked about him being within- talked about him being within westminster, _ talked about him being within westminster, being - talked about him being within westminster, being quite - westminster, being quite lightweight, _ westminster, being quite lightweight, but - westminster, being quite lightweight, but a - westminster, being quite lightweight, but a good . westminster, being quite - lightweight, but a good articular performer— lightweight, but a good articular performer in _ lightweight, but a good articular performer in the _ lightweight, but a good articular performer in the media - lightweight, but a good articular performer in the media and - lightweight, but a good articular performer in the media and thatj lightweight, but a good articular. performer in the media and that is may be _ performer in the media and that is may be a — performer in the media and that is may be a strength _ performer in the media and that is may be a strength but _ performer in the media and that is may be a strength but also - performer in the media and that is may be a strength but also a - may be a strength but also a weakness _ may be a strength but also a weakness -- _ may be a strength but also a weakness —— articulate. - may be a strength but also a weakness —— articulate. he i may be a strength but also a . weakness —— articulate. he has may be a strength but also a - weakness —— articulate. he has a tough _ weakness —— articulate. he has a tough act — weakness —— articulate. he has a tough act to— weakness —— articulate. he has a tough act to follow— weakness —— articulate. he has a tough act to follow in _ weakness —— articulate. he has a tough act to follow in ben - weakness —— articulate. he has ai tough act to follow in ben wallace so i'm _ tough act to follow in ben wallace so i'm not— tough act to follow in ben wallace so i'm not praising _ tough act to follow in ben wallace so i'm not praising him _ tough act to follow in ben wallace so i'm not praising him unduly- so i'm not praising him unduly because — so i'm not praising him unduly because i'm _ so i'm not praising him unduly because i'm not _ so i'm not praising him unduly because i'm not a _ so i'm not praising him unduly because i'm not a fan - so i'm not praising him unduly because i'm not a fan of- so i'm not praising him unduly because i'm not a fan of the l because i'm not a fan of the conservatives— because i'm not a fan of the conservatives but— because i'm not a fan of the conservatives but he - because i'm not a fan of the conservatives but he kept. because i'm not a fan of the i conservatives but he kept his because i'm not a fan of the - conservatives but he kept hisjob under— conservatives but he kept hisjob under boris — conservatives but he kept hisjob under borisjohnson, _ conservatives but he kept hisjob under borisjohnson, liz- conservatives but he kept hisjob under boris johnson, liz truss i conservatives but he kept hisjob. under boris johnson, liz truss and rishi _ under boris johnson, liz truss and rishi sunak— under boris johnson, liz truss and rishi sunak and _ under boris johnson, liz truss and rishi sunak and they— under boris johnson, liz truss and rishi sunak and they kept - under boris johnson, liz truss and rishi sunak and they kept him - under boris johnson, liz truss and rishi sunak and they kept him in. rishi sunak and they kept him in place _ rishi sunak and they kept him in place for— rishi sunak and they kept him in place for a — rishi sunak and they kept him in place for a reason, _ rishi sunak and they kept him in place for a reason, because - rishi sunak and they kept him in place for a reason, because we i rishi sunak and they kept him in. place for a reason, because we are at war— place for a reason, because we are at war effectively, _ place for a reason, because we are at war effectively, supporting - at war effectively, supporting ukraine — at war effectively, supporting ukraine in— at war effectively, supporting ukraine in a _ at war effectively, supporting ukraine in a conflict - at war effectively, supporting ukraine in a conflict with - at war effectively, supporting. ukraine in a conflict with russia. he had _ ukraine in a conflict with russia. he had gained _ ukraine in a conflict with russia. he had gained a _ ukraine in a conflict with russia. he had gained a lot— ukraine in a conflict with russia. he had gained a lot of— ukraine in a conflict with russia. he had gained a lot of respect. he had gained a lot of respect within— he had gained a lot of respect within the _ he had gained a lot of respect within the military, _ he had gained a lot of respect within the military, and - he had gained a lot of respect within the military, and also l he had gained a lot of respect- within the military, and also across parliament, — within the military, and also across parliament, and _ within the military, and also across parliament, and grant _ within the military, and also across parliament, and grant shapps- within the military, and also across parliament, and grant shapps is. within the military, and also across parliament, and grant shapps is al parliament, and grant shapps is a very different _ parliament, and grant shapps is a very different political _ parliament, and grant shapps is a very different political beast - parliament, and grant shapps is a very different political beast and i very different political beast and he is _ very different political beast and he is seen — very different political beast and he is seen as— very different political beast and he is seen as much— very different political beast and he is seen as much more - very different political beast and he is seen as much more partyi he is seen as much more party political— he is seen as much more party political and _ he is seen as much more party political and much _ he is seen as much more party political and much more - he is seen as much more party. political and much more partisan. he is seen as much more party- political and much more partisan. a bit like _ political and much more partisan. a bit like john — political and much more partisan. a bit like john reid _ political and much more partisan. a bit like john reid who _ political and much more partisan. a bit like john reid who played - political and much more partisan. a bit like john reid who played a - bit like john reid who played a similar— bit like john reid who played a similar role _ bit like john reid who played a similar role for— bit like john reid who played a similar role for the _ bit like john reid who played a similar role for the last - bit like john reid who played a similar role for the last labourj similar role for the last labour government. _ similar role for the last labour government. a _ similar role for the last labour government, a fighter- similar role for the last labour government, a fighter in - similar role for the last labour government, a fighter in the l similar role for the last labour- government, a fighter in the media rather— government, a fighter in the media rather than — government, a fighter in the media rather than a — government, a fighter in the media rather than a minister— government, a fighter in the media rather than a minister who - government, a fighter in the media rather than a minister who gets - rather than a minister who gets things— rather than a minister who gets things done _ rather than a minister who gets things done which _ rather than a minister who gets things done which is— rather than a minister who gets things done which is why - rather than a minister who gets things done which is why he - rather than a minister who gets| things done which is why he has rather than a minister who gets - things done which is why he has been shifted _ things done which is why he has been shifted around — things done which is why he has been shifted around rather— things done which is why he has been shifted around rather than _ things done which is why he has been shifted around rather than being - shifted around rather than being allowed — shifted around rather than being attowed to— shifted around rather than being allowed to get _ shifted around rather than being allowed to get on _ shifted around rather than being allowed to get on with _ shifted around rather than being allowed to get on with a - shifted around rather than being i allowed to get on with a particular brief _ allowed to get on with a particular brief it's— allowed to get on with a particular brief it's an — allowed to get on with a particular brief. it's an interesting _ brief. it's an interesting appointment— brief. it's an interesting appointment and - brief. it's an interesting appointment and i'm i brief. it's an interesting - appointment and i'm surprised someone — appointment and i'm surprised someone from _ appointment and i'm surprised someone from within - appointment and i'm surprised someone from within the - appointment and i'm surprised i someone from within the defence appointment and i'm surprised - someone from within the defence team was not _ someone from within the defence team was not promoted — someone from within the defence team was not promoted actually, _ someone from within the defence team was not promoted actually, to - someone from within the defence team was not promoted actually, to have - someone from within the defence team was not promoted actually, to have a l was not promoted actually, to have a bit more _ was not promoted actually, to have a bit more consistency, _ was not promoted actually, to have a bit more consistency, but _ was not promoted actually, to have a bit more consistency, but will- was not promoted actually, to have a bit more consistency, but will be - bit more consistency, but will be interesting — bit more consistency, but will be interesting to _ bit more consistency, but will be interesting to see _ bit more consistency, but will be interesting to see how— bit more consistency, but will be interesting to see how he - bit more consistency, but will be interesting to see how he gets . bit more consistency, but will bei interesting to see how he gets on because _ interesting to see how he gets on because it — interesting to see how he gets on because it is _ interesting to see how he gets on because it is a _ interesting to see how he gets on because it is a serious _ interesting to see how he gets on because it is a serious situation . interesting to see how he gets on| because it is a serious situation at the moment— because it is a serious situation at the moment with _ because it is a serious situation at the moment with ukraine - because it is a serious situation at the moment with ukraine and - because it is a serious situation atl the moment with ukraine and what else is— the moment with ukraine and what else is going — the moment with ukraine and what else is going on _ the moment with ukraine and what else is going on in _ the moment with ukraine and what else is going on in the _ the moment with ukraine and what else is going on in the world. - the moment with ukraine and what else is going on in the world. lordl else is going on in the world. lord dannatt, thanks _ else is going on in the world. lord dannatt, thanks for _ else is going on in the world. dannatt, thanks forjoining us. well, one theatre of operations that is becoming increasingly important to nato and its allies is the south china sea. and this past few weeks there has been plenty going on. the united states and its allies have been running joint military exercises with australia and the philippines, there has been a series of mock beach landings and air assault manoeuvres. it comes against a backdrop of growing regional tension. china continues to assert its sovereignty over almost the entire south china sea, one of the world's busiest sea lanes, despite a un—backed tribunal ruling that is tribunal ruling that its claims are groundless. analysts say washington is intent on sending a message to china, that the alliance is in lockstep and will not be intimidated. our asia pacific correspondent laura bicker reports from the island of palawan. on the edge of this filipino paradise, survival depends on the sea. if you don't fish, you don't eat. they are used to battling wind and tide. but this country is also in a standoff with beijing over who owns which part of the south china sea. the crew of this boat used to fish near contested waters and from the age of ia the deputy captain spent months on those shoals, but not anymore. translation: we might not return there, ma'am. - we are now scared. the fishermen have been asked tojoin a militia to help defend filipino territory. but life is already bathed in saltwater and sweat while steering boats made of simple bamboo. they have no wish to take on a global superpower. if we guard it, how could we feed ourfamilies? what we need is to fish. that's our goal. out in the sea. the chinese might fire their water cannons. we just have a wooden boat. we're really afraid of going back there. this is what the fishermen are afraid of. the chinese fired their water cannons at the filipino coast guard earlier this month. these are philippine waters, according to un law. resolved to keep hold of their reefs, manila deliberately ran aground a rusting world war two ship on what is known as a shoal. but recent monthly efforts to supply troops on board with food and water have become increasingly tense. china argues that it is doing what is necessary to protect its sovereignty, its claims over the south china sea. the problem is, beijing's tactics and beijing's actions are pushing american allies in this region closer together against what they see as aggression. rapid gunfire. in a show of solidarity, australia held its first large scale joint exercises with the philippines last week. they practiced retaking an enemy controlled island. and in manila bay, japanese and us navy warships sit side by side ready forjoint drills. allied support has emboldened the philippines to speak out. really, it is a david versus goliath issue. butjust like david, they will continue to pound and double down on the need to protect the resources which are important for the future of the philippines. the outcome of this dispute could have a profound impact here. where once their future was determined by ocean currents, now it may depend on the resolve of world leaders. laura bicker, bbc news, palawan. joining me now is tiffany ma, from the bower group asia. thanks forjoining us. the pentagon hopes the exercises will act as a form of deterrent. are you concerned it might push china into a corner? i think august, looking back, is a pivotal month in the south china sea, and we mention the philippines and we started off with a blockade of the sierra madre a and then add a series of exercises. all of these are actions between the us and their allies to show resolve to china, and it is unclear that despite the increasing numbers of tools that the us and its allies having its tool box, whether china remains to be deterred, but it sends an incredibly strong signal resolve especially given it is australia and the philippines�*s largest exercise to date and we are seeing under a new philippine administration where the government is taking a closer step towards the us, unlike the previous administration. the towards the us, unlike the previous administration.— administration. the “ury is still out on newt administration. the “ury is still out on how china _ administration. the jury is still out on how china will - administration. the jury is still| out on how china will respond? administration. the jury is still - out on how china will respond? there is a downturn in the economy there and one thinks there might be a charm offensive but the other side thanks that may it starts to turn attentions to taiwan and the south china sea to distract the public from domestic challenges at home. which way will it go? that from domestic challenges at home. which way will it go?— which way will it go? that was the million-dollar _ which way will it go? that was the million-dollar question. _ which way will it go? that was the million-dollar question. what - which way will it go? that was the million-dollar question. what we | which way will it go? that was the i million-dollar question. what we are million—dollar question. what we are seeing in the taiwan strait is related to what we are seeing in the south china sea, where china has unresolved territorial disputes and these are considered by beijing as part of its core interest and it is developing the military capabilities and economic capabilities to try and push countries it is in dispute with to resolve these outcomes. from the perspective of beijing, they have had mixed success and they have raised a significant risk of countries pushing back with the us and its allies, because for the us and its allies, because for the us and its allies, these actions from china are seen as a challenge to the original rules —based order. igrai’hdt original rules -based order. what about south _ original rules -based order. what about south korea? _ original rules —based order. what about south korea? south korea does not take much of an interest in the south china sea. but it is now. does that make a difference? igrai’hdt south china sea. but it is now. does that make a difference?— that make a difference? what is really interesting _ that make a difference? what is really interesting with _ that make a difference? what is really interesting with south - that make a difference? what is i really interesting with south korea is what we are seeing happening in cape david this week, conversations and cooperation between the us and japan and south korea —— camp david. not only do south korea and japan have their own issues but they are also important us allies in a range of potential contingencies and flashpoints in the northeast asia, whether it is taiwan or the korean peninsula, so south korea being more involved in the multilateral approaches to regional security is very encouraging.— approaches to regional security is very encouraging. tiffany, we have not to very encouraging. tiffany, we have got to leave _ very encouraging. tiffany, we have got to leave it _ very encouraging. tiffany, we have got to leave it for _ very encouraging. tiffany, we have got to leave it for now. _ very encouraging. tiffany, we have got to leave it for now. we - very encouraging. tiffany, we have got to leave it for now. we will. very encouraging. tiffany, we have got to leave it for now. we will go | got to leave it for now. we will go to a short break. let's look at some other stories making news. a police officer driving a van who followed two teenagers before they both died in an e—bike crash is being investigated for dangerous driving. 16—year—old kyrees sullivan and harvey evans, who was 15, died after the bike they were riding crashed in ely, cardiff, in may. the deaths led to riots which saw 15 officers injured and dozens arrested. the former conservative mp antoinette sandbach has asked to be removed from an academic�*s research that connects her to a slave—owning ancestor. malik al nasir named ms sandbach as a descendant of samuel sandbach, a liverpool merchant who had a stake in plantations in the west indies, in a 2021 video. she argues there's no public interest in identifying her. a last—minute deal to save the collapsed retailer wilko has fallen through. hundreds ofjob losses are expected to follow. the discount chain went into administration earlier this month, although for now it's stores remain open. you're live with bbc news. there are 1.8 million british indians. they are the largest ethnic minority group here in the uk and an increasingly important part of the electorate. next week, rishi sunak will travel to new delhi for the 620 summit. quite a moment. two hindu heads of government — the old power and the new — which you might think would bring them closer together. but it is not always a smooth relationship. not least because of britain's colonial history. and for prime minister modi, it is important, always has been, that internationally india, a growing super power, stands alone. he steers a delicate line between east and west. under pressure from the white house, he has refused to distance himself from vladimir putin. in fact, they have taken full advantage of the embargo europe has imposed, buying up the cheaper oil available. so what sort of summit will this be? what can britain get out of it? what does india, as host, want the 620 to deliver? james heale hasjust written a fascinating article for the spectator. what is the answer? what does india want out of the 620? abs, what is the answer? what does india want out of the 620? ah. lat what is the answer? what does india want out of the g20?— want out of the g20? a lot of different things _ want out of the g20? a lot of different things and - want out of the g20? a lot of different things and in - want out of the g20? a lot of different things and in terms | want out of the g20? a lot of. different things and in terms of want out of the g20? a lot of- different things and in terms of the british context, we are working on a trade deal which has been in talks for the best part of two years, and there is also conversations about what that will involve in terms of visas being a part of it and what kind of access and tariffs will be part of that but is one element. you look at the post—war tradition, they have tried to steer a middle way, between the west and the east, and that will be a key flashpoint in the summit because on the one hand, they have quinn to board oil purchases from russia but there is also the clashes going on with china and a keeper at the british strategy will be trying to convince india they have an interest in working together to act as a boardwalk against the rise of china in the coming decades ahead. , rise of china in the coming decades ahead. w' , ~ ., ahead. tell me quickly, ukraine, the did ahead. tell me quickly, ukraine, they did rrot _ ahead. tell me quickly, ukraine, they did not get _ ahead. tell me quickly, ukraine, they did not get an _ ahead. tell me quickly, ukraine, they did not get an agreement . they did not get an agreement because china and russia are sitting at the table and would veto any agreement, so how would it be treated in new delhi next week? in economic terms it is the elephant in the room. we economic terms it is the elephant in the room. ~ ., economic terms it is the elephant in the room. ~ . . ., , economic terms it is the elephant in the room. . . . , , the room. we have already seen vladimir putin _ the room. we have already seen vladimir putin and _ the room. we have already seen vladimir putin and xi _ the room. we have already seen vladimir putin and xi jinping - the room. we have already seen vladimir putin and xi jinping are| vladimir putin and xijinping are not going to go to the summit, so if you are looking in terms of the communicate that the summits produce, it is unlikely to produce the kind of communication are working towards a statement that we were hoping to, and i think it will be something that will be something that deals with clean energy and climate change and green development which is something everyone can get around but we are going to see stand—offs and flashpoints and this is something the british would rather talk about, to china in this contest. —— context. brute rather talk about, to china in this contest. -- context.— rather talk about, to china in this contest. -- context. we were talking last week about _ contest. -- context. we were talking last week about the _ contest. -- context. we were talking last week about the summit - contest. -- context. we were talking last week about the summit and - contest. -- context. we were talking last week about the summit and this| last week about the summit and this was a counterbalance to the 620 but we have nowjust spoke about the south china sea and there are border tensions between china and india so there is an opportunity for the west to get in there and may be appealed to get in there and may be appealed to prime minister modi? —— may be appeal. to prime minister modi? -- may be a- eal. , to prime minister modi? -- may be aueal. , ,, appeal. there is. especially in the us in particular, _ appeal. there is. especially in the us in particular, but _ appeal. there is. especially in the us in particular, but there - appeal. there is. especially in the us in particular, but there is - appeal. there is. especially in the us in particular, but there is a - us in particular, but there is a view— us in particular, but there is a view that— us in particular, but there is a view that india can be a stable and reliable _ view that india can be a stable and reliable partner going forward as a hedge _ reliable partner going forward as a hedge against what is undoubtedly increasing tension with the people's republic— increasing tension with the people's republic of china and there has been reporting _ republic of china and there has been reporting as recently an hour ago in some _ reporting as recently an hour ago in some us _ reporting as recently an hour ago in some us media outlets that president xi jinping _ some us media outlets that president xi jinping will not attend the 620 and that— xi jinping will not attend the 620 and that should not be a surprise given— and that should not be a surprise given where it is, first of all, and the fact— given where it is, first of all, and the fact that you have these increasing tensions between the west and china _ increasing tensions between the west and china. it is an opportunity for the us— and china. it is an opportunity for the us and — and china. it is an opportunity for the us and other western countries to build _ the us and other western countries to build a _ the us and other western countries to build a continuing alliance with as well— to build a continuing alliance with as well as — to build a continuing alliance with as well as a measure of support with the indian _ as well as a measure of support with the indian government but that being said, the indian government but that being said. itll— the indian government but that being said, it'll be interesting to see what _ said, it'll be interesting to see what topics of come up and how bland of a communique comes out of this and then— of a communique comes out of this and then fundamentally going forward, what pathway there will be in the _ forward, what pathway there will be in the us— forward, what pathway there will be in the us engagement with india given— in the us engagement with india given that there is not only tension between _ given that there is not only tension between the us and china but also tension _ between the us and china but also tension between india and china as well _ tension between india and china as well l— tension between india and china as well. ., �* ~' ., tension between india and china as well. ~' ., tension between india and china as well. ., �* ~ ., . . well. i don't know if you have read the article — well. i don't know if you have read the article by _ well. i don't know if you have read the article by james _ well. i don't know if you have read the article by james but _ well. i don't know if you have read the article by james but he - well. i don't know if you have read the article by james but he talks i the article by james but he talks about the base brexit deal tilt towards the indo—pacific region and we have done a deal with japan already and also with australia, so why don't we have an indian trade to —— trade deal? ftithe why don't we have an indian trade to -- trade deal?— -- trade deal? one of the main negotiating _ -- trade deal? one of the main negotiating task _ -- trade deal? one of the main negotiating task from _ -- trade deal? one of the main negotiating task from the - -- trade deal? one of the main| negotiating task from the indian side is _ negotiating task from the indian side is greater— negotiating task from the indian side is greater access _ negotiating task from the indian side is greater access to - negotiating task from the indian side is greater access to the - negotiating task from the indian side is greater access to the uk| side is greater access to the uk through— side is greater access to the uk through visas _ side is greater access to the uk through visas especially- side is greater access to the uk| through visas especially student visas _ through visas especially student visas and — through visas especially student visas and other— through visas especially student visas and other work— through visas especially student visas and other work visas. - through visas especially student visas and other work visas. and| through visas especially student. visas and other work visas. and the government— visas and other work visas. and the government is— visas and other work visas. and the government is reluctant _ visas and other work visas. and the government is reluctant to - visas and other work visas. and the government is reluctant to do - visas and other work visas. and the government is reluctant to do this. government is reluctant to do this given— government is reluctant to do this given the — government is reluctant to do this given the patient _ government is reluctant to do this given the patient they _ government is reluctant to do this given the patient they are - government is reluctant to do this given the patient they are under, i given the patient they are under, self-imposed _ given the patient they are under, self—imposed predominately, - given the patient they are under, . self—imposed predominately, about getting _ self—imposed predominately, about getting immigration— self—imposed predominately, about getting immigration down— self—imposed predominately, about getting immigration down —— - self—imposed predominately, about getting immigration down —— given| getting immigration down —— given the pressure — getting immigration down —— given the pressure they— getting immigration down —— given the pressure they are _ getting immigration down —— given the pressure they are under. - getting immigration down —— giveni the pressure they are under. clearly they cannot — the pressure they are under. clearly they cannot say _ the pressure they are under. clearly they cannot say that _ the pressure they are under. clearly they cannot say that to _ the pressure they are under. clearly they cannot say that to a _ the pressure they are under. clearly they cannot say that to a domestic. they cannot say that to a domestic audience _ they cannot say that to a domestic audience and _ they cannot say that to a domestic audience and then— they cannot say that to a domestic audience and then hand _ they cannot say that to a domestic audience and then hand out - they cannot say that to a domestic audience and then hand out an- they cannot say that to a domestic. audience and then hand out an open door policy— audience and then hand out an open door policy to — audience and then hand out an open door policy to india _ audience and then hand out an open door policy to india which _ audience and then hand out an open door policy to india which is - audience and then hand out an open door policy to india which is what . door policy to india which is what it wants — door policy to india which is what it wants. there _ door policy to india which is what it wants. there is _ door policy to india which is what it wants. there is a _ door policy to india which is what it wants. there is a tension - door policy to india which is whatj it wants. there is a tension there within— it wants. there is a tension there within the — it wants. there is a tension there within the british _ it wants. there is a tension there within the british government. i it wants. there is a tension there i within the british government. india is rightly— within the british government. india is rightly holding _ within the british government. india is rightly holding outfit, _ within the british government. india is rightly holding outfit, it— within the british government. india is rightly holding outfit, it is- within the british government. india is rightly holding outfit, it is in- is rightly holding outfit, it is in their— is rightly holding outfit, it is in their economic— is rightly holding outfit, it is in their economic interests. - is rightly holding outfit, it is in their economic interests. —— l is rightly holding outfit, it is in- their economic interests. —— rightly holding _ their economic interests. —— rightly holding out— their economic interests. —— rightly holding out for _ their economic interests. —— rightly holding out for it. _ their economic interests. —— rightly holding out for it. the _ their economic interests. —— rightly holding out for it. the mild - holding out for it. the mild downturn _ holding out for it. the mild downturn in _ holding out for it. the mild downturn in china - holding out for it. the mild downturn in china has- holding out for it. the mild| downturn in china has been holding out for it. the mild - downturn in china has been referred to but— downturn in china has been referred to but india — downturn in china has been referred to but india is— downturn in china has been referred to but india is in _ downturn in china has been referred to but india is in a _ downturn in china has been referred to but india is in a worse _ downturn in china has been referred to but india is in a worse state - downturn in china has been referred to but india is in a worse state and i to but india is in a worse state and they have — to but india is in a worse state and they have introduced _ to but india is in a worse state and they have introduced an _ to but india is in a worse state and they have introduced an export - to but india is in a worse state and| they have introduced an export ban which _ they have introduced an export ban which could — they have introduced an export ban which could actually— they have introduced an export ban which could actually put _ they have introduced an export ban which could actually put up - they have introduced an export ban which could actually put up food . which could actually put up food price _ which could actually put up food price inflation _ which could actually put up food price inflation again. _ which could actually put up food price inflation again. there - which could actually put up food price inflation again. there are. price inflation again. there are real issues— price inflation again. there are real issues with _ price inflation again. there are real issues with india - price inflation again. there are real issues with india and - price inflation again. there are real issues with india and i- price inflation again. there are real issues with india and idol price inflation again. there are i real issues with india and i do not think— real issues with india and i do not think it _ real issues with india and i do not think it will — real issues with india and i do not think it will be — real issues with india and i do not think it will be plain— real issues with india and i do not think it will be plain sailing - real issues with india and i do not think it will be plain sailing to- think it will be plain sailing to -et think it will be plain sailing to get anything _ think it will be plain sailing to get anything done. _ think it will be plain sailing to get anything done. the - think it will be plain sailing to get anything done. the 620 i think it will be plain sailing to| get anything done. the 620 is think it will be plain sailing to- get anything done. the 620 is pretty much _ get anything done. the 620 is pretty much a _ get anything done. the 620 is pretty much a talking — get anything done. the 620 is pretty much a talking shop _ get anything done. the 620 is pretty much a talking shop because - get anything done. the 620 is pretty much a talking shop because of- get anything done. the 620 is pretty much a talking shop because of the i much a talking shop because of the divisions— much a talking shop because of the divisions and — much a talking shop because of the divisions and the _ much a talking shop because of the divisions and the communique - much a talking shop because of the divisions and the communique willi much a talking shop because of the . divisions and the communique will be bland _ divisions and the communique will be bland but— divisions and the communique will be bland but what— divisions and the communique will be bland but what is _ divisions and the communique will be bland but what is interesting - divisions and the communique will be bland but what is interesting is- divisions and the communique will be bland but what is interesting is the i bland but what is interesting is the bilateral— bland but what is interesting is the bilateral talks _ bland but what is interesting is the bilateral talks that— bland but what is interesting is the bilateral talks that happen - bland but what is interesting is the bilateral talks that happen at - bland but what is interesting is the bilateral talks that happen at the l bilateral talks that happen at the margins — bilateral talks that happen at the margins of— bilateral talks that happen at the margins of the _ bilateral talks that happen at the margins of the summit, - bilateral talks that happen at the margins of the summit, that - bilateral talks that happen at the margins of the summit, that is l bilateral talks that happen at the - margins of the summit, that is where the action— margins of the summit, that is where the action happens— margins of the summit, that is where the action happens as _ margins of the summit, that is where the action happens as it— margins of the summit, that is where the action happens as it were. - margins of the summit, that is where the action happens as it were. we. the action happens as it were. we have not the action happens as it were. have got to leave it there. we the action happens as it were.“ have got to leave it there. we are going to go into a break. we are going to go into a break. we are going to go to new delhi and focus on that next week. james's article has been good reading ahead of that visit so thanks for that and thanks for coming on the programme. on the other side of the break we will talk about artificial intelligence. do we need legislation now? it is developing so fast. one person in the uk says we have weeks, not months, to get some rules and regulations in place. stay with us. hello there. low pressure and its weather fronts brought a rather cloudy, damp day to many central, southern and western parts of the uk. quite a bit of sunshine, though, across scotland and north—east england. as we head into friday, this area of low pressure will be weakening, fizzling out and conditions will be improving. as we head into the weekend, into next week, high pressure will bring dry, sunny, warm weather for many of us. so these weather fronts, then, continue to bring outbreaks of rain through the evening and overnight. we could see an area of thundery rain move through the channel. may just graze southern counties of england. certainly wet nights in store for the channel islands. further north, rather cloudy with some patchy light rain and drizzle. quite a mild night in the south, but under clear skies in scotland, it'll be quite chilly. so, for friday, we start off with plenty of sunshine across most of scotland. southern scotland, northern ireland, northern england will see this weakening weather front, some spots of rain on it. it'll also be brightening up across other parts of england and wales through the afternoon. some sunshine, also a few showers on the heavy side in places, and feeling warmer, up to 22 degrees. as we move through friday night, that weather front across central areas will continue to fizzle out. clouds break up, and we'll see increasing clear skies. but that way leads to mist and fog to develop by dawn, certainly across parts of england, wales, into northern ireland. a mild night to come again first thing saturday, but it's not going to be quite as much as what we'll expect tonight. weekend, then, is looking dry, sunny and warm thanks to high pressure building in. there mayjust be the odd shower, and we will see these weather fronts just flirting with the far north of scotland. otherwise, most places will be fine and settled. we do start, though, with the mist and fog, some low cloud through saturday morning. and then that will tend to lift and burn away, and we should see plenty of sunshine. could develop into just the odd isolated shower across england and wales, but most places will be dry. it'll feel warmer — up to 23 degrees in the south, 20 degrees through central and eastern scotland. sunday, we do it all again. again, some early mist and fog. that'll clear to plenty of sunshine. this weather front will bring some wetter and breezier weather to the north and west of scotland. 18 degrees there for stornoway, but warmer further south. 21r—25 degrees across some central and southern areas. and that fine, dry, sunny, warm weather continues for the upcoming week, but towards the end of the week, we'll start to see some showers moving in off the atlantic. take care. hello, i'm christian fraser. you're watching the context on bbc news. a uk parliamentary committee calls for the regulation of al to be sped up. we'll speak to its chair.

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