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in england's local elections. the tories lost almost 500 council seats on thursday. the sunday express looks ahead to borisjohnson�*s queen's speech next week, which promises to slash red tape, boost economic growth and make the uk thrive. the mail on sunday splashes beergate on its front page. sir keir starmerfaces fresh questions over a leaked memo which, the paper says, undermines the labour leader's claim that his takeaway was actually spontaneous. the sunday people says ukrainian hackers halt vladimir putin's party vodka. booze missiles is its headline. the sunday mirror reports the duke and duchess of cambridge are set to scrap formalities when on duty — including curtsies, bows and even using their royal titles. we will get to that, but we will start with the result in northern ireland. we'll we�* ll start we'll start by looking at the observer, which has the picture of the two sinn fein leaders taking a selfie and the headline. fuels debate on future of the union. joe twyman, what will that debate look like? ~ twyman, what will that debate look like? , ,,,_ twyman, what will that debate look like? , ., like? well, it will probably be long and bitter, and _ like? well, it will probably be long and bitter, and it _ like? well, it will probably be long and bitter, and it will— like? well, it will probably be long and bitter, and it will probably - like? well, it will probably be long and bitter, and it will probably not| and bitter, and it will probably not be resolved in any satisfactory manner. there is no doubt that it is a historic situation to have sinn fein, a party who, within our memories, was prevented from making broadcasts on british television coming to talk to the polls in northern ireland. the first time the national party has managed to do this. it's slightly more complicated than the headline findings would have us leave. sinn fein received 29% of the vote, up i% on the previous performance in 2017. the decline of the dup, 7% down on their previous figure. it's really the fall of the dup that has let in sinn fein. now they get to nominate our first minister, and the dup, a party which some may say has been set up to say no, gets to nominate the deputy first minister. they have said they will not do that until the northern ireland protocol is sorted out. the protocol has been a thorn in the side of the british government for some time now. if there were an easy resolution to it, they would have found it already. so lots of complexity, lots of difficulty, and i imagine lots of arguments and perhaps some negotiations.— arguments and perhaps some negotiations. let's build on this sto and negotiations. let's build on this story and bring _ negotiations. let's build on this story and bring in _ negotiations. let's build on this story and bring in the _ negotiations. let's build on this story and bring in the sunday i negotiations. let's build on this - story and bring in the sunday times. it also features the picture of sinn fein taking that selfie and the headline. is that the right way to see it, lucy? it’s headline. is that the right way to see it. lucy?— see it, lucy? it's definitely one wa to see it, lucy? it's definitely one way to see _ see it, lucy? it's definitely one way to see it — see it, lucy? it's definitely one way to see it through, - see it, lucy? it's definitely one way to see it through, and - see it, lucy? it's definitely one way to see it through, and the | see it, lucy? it's definitely one i way to see it through, and the du see it, lucy? it's definitely one - way to see it through, and the du pr going _ way to see it through, and the du pr going to _ way to see it through, and the du pr going to make it progress. but the uk government are very keen that brussels don't dig their heels in, and liz— brussels don't dig their heels in, and liz truss is cited as being... we must — and liz truss is cited as being... we must all_ and liz truss is cited as being... we must all work together and not try to _ we must all work together and not try to jam — we must all work together and not try to jam up the work. there is enough — try to jam up the work. there is enough in — try to jam up the work. there is enough in the current situation constitutionally within northern ireland — constitutionally within northern ireland which could make it very difficult — ireland which could make it very difficult for stormont to sit. if there — difficult for stormont to sit. if there were also increased brexit tensions — there were also increased brexit tensions. then that could really inflame — tensions. then that could really inflame situations. at the moment, but one _ inflame situations. at the moment, but one senses from that piece in the sunday— but one senses from that piece in the sunday times is an attempt to be very much— the sunday times is an attempt to be very much on the front foot and say to brusseis— very much on the front foot and say to brussels don't try to escalate a situation that's already very fragile, _ situation that's already very fragile, very delicate. if we could all pull— fragile, very delicate. if we could all pull together, that would be much better stuff like how big a story— much better stuff like how big a story is— much better stuff like how big a story is northern ireland in mainland britain, given the fact that you — mainland britain, given the fact that you are remembering listening to politicians _ that you are remembering listening to politicians years _ that you are remembering listening to politicians years ago. _ it is not a big story or a big issue for most people in the mainland. when you ask people whether it would be a good or bad thing if northern ireland left the united kingdom, people say they wouldn't mind either way. though there is support for northern ireland staying part of the uk, you also have large numbers of people who say the opposite and equally large numbers who say they don't know. so, it really is an issue that up until now, at least, has really not attracted a lot of attention on this side of the irish sea. that me wary —— may very well change. there's a lot of support in northern ireland, even though at the moment, a plurality support staying part of the uk. i think inevitably, with sinn fein as the lead party in stormont and with them having first minister, the discussion of when a referendum takes place rather than if will now become the focus. but at the same time, political leaders don't tend to like calling referendum the last they know they have a good chance in of winning —— unless they know. that could change dramatically, but it's on my —— i imagine it's something we will pay increasing attention to. let’s imagine it's something we will pay increasing attention to.— increasing attention to. let's go with the mail— increasing attention to. let's go with the mail on _ increasing attention to. let's go with the mail on sunday. - increasing attention to. let's go with the mail on sunday. the i with the mail on sunday. the headline photo, beergate story. lucy beresford, already the first pair paragraph. how do you see it?— already the first pair paragraph. how do you see it? well, as someone who survived — how do you see it? well, as someone who survived pretty — how do you see it? well, as someone who survived pretty much _ how do you see it? well, as someone who survived pretty much for- how do you see it? well, as someone who survived pretty much for three i who survived pretty much for three years _ who survived pretty much for three years while — who survived pretty much for three years while i was at durham on takeaway— years while i was at durham on takeaway curries, i can confirm that they are _ takeaway curries, i can confirm that they are very— takeaway curries, i can confirm that they are very delicious, but i had no idea they might be career destroying. in this memo which has been _ destroying. in this memo which has been leaked to the mail on sunday, there's— been leaked to the mail on sunday, there's also another story about the witness _ there's also another story about the witness who was at this event, which is blowing apart the idea that it was a _ is blowing apart the idea that it was a very— is blowing apart the idea that it was a very spontaneous order of curry, _ was a very spontaneous order of curry, and — was a very spontaneous order of curry, and therefore there was some presentation around it and therefore, it went against the lockdown laws as they existed on the 13th of _ lockdown laws as they existed on the 13th of april last year. the very difficult — 13th of april last year. the very difficult situation for keir starmer is that— difficult situation for keir starmer is that if— difficult situation for keir starmer is that if that analysis is correct, then— is that if that analysis is correct, then it _ is that if that analysis is correct, then it rather looks as though he's been very— then it rather looks as though he's been very hypocritical in terms of calling _ been very hypocritical in terms of calling for— been very hypocritical in terms of calling for people like boris johnson and in particular rishi sunak— johnson and in particular rishi sunak to — johnson and in particular rishi sunak to resign. rishi sunak was fined _ sunak to resign. rishi sunak was fined for— sunak to resign. rishi sunak was fined for what appears to be pitching _ fined for what appears to be pitching up for a meeting only to discover— pitching up for a meeting only to discover that somebody else was serving _ discover that somebody else was serving some cake at the time. keir starmer— serving some cake at the time. keir starmer has — serving some cake at the time. keir starmer has gone very big on that for a _ starmer has gone very big on that for a long — starmer has gone very big on that for a long time about how that kind of behaviour was very unacceptable, and now _ of behaviour was very unacceptable, and now it _ of behaviour was very unacceptable, and now it looks like he's actually in danger— and now it looks like he's actually in danger of having done very similar— in danger of having done very similar things. let's bring in the sunday telegraph, which also features an angle on this story. i beg your pardon, the sunday times. i got my sundays mixed up. all the papers are called sundays. new crisis first army —— starmer. is it really unraveling for keir starmer?— it really unraveling for keir starmer? ., , , , starmer? some of the newspapers certainly are _ starmer? some of the newspapers certainly are presenting _ starmer? some of the newspapers certainly are presenting it - starmer? some of the newspapers certainly are presenting it as - starmer? some of the newspapers certainly are presenting it as such. i certainly are presenting it as such. you could argue that they have an interest in ensuring that everyone is treated equally under the law. you could also argue they're out to get the labour party. that's very much the view —— for the viewers to decide. what's clear is that new evidence has come forward. we assume this has been submitted to the police. it would appear that the interpretation that the labour party would put forward is that this is a work itinerary, and if travelling to durham, it's the people are fed. it will inevitably come down to a discussion about exactly what took place in more context and who was in the right. it will be for the police investigation to decide, but lucy is absolutely right that the finding of rishi sunak really sets an interesting precedent, and while everything is innocent until proven guilty, if the balance of probability rests on just turning up at a work event, then that could be potentially bad news for keir starmer —— fining rishi sunak. how he responds remains to be seen. diane abbott, who isn't famous for her support of him, has been the first mp to come out and say that if he is fine, he should resign. i imagine there will be calls from people who are fond of keir starmer in the coming days, but it does relay some really interesting questions. having presented himself as very fair and balanced. if he is found to have broken the rules it would place him in difficult position. around one in ten people believe that the government's figures were sticking to the rules, and that only rose to a quarter for labourfigures. it's not the and that only rose to a quarter for labour figures. it's not the case now that the public views of labour as the absolute pure adherence to the covid rules and the conservatives as something opposite. we've looked at the labour leader, let's look at the government on the sunday telegraph. i'm getting that one right. housing crisis, tories might have to learn lessons from a losses. —— election losses. the might have to learn lessons from a losses. -- election losses.- losses. -- election losses. the 11 noble -- — losses. -- election losses. the 11 noble -- inevitable _ losses. -- election losses. the 11 noble -- inevitable postmorteml losses. -- election losses. the 11 i noble -- inevitable postmortem has noble —— inevitable postmortem has begun, _ noble —— inevitable postmortem has begun, and — noble —— inevitable postmortem has begun, and very many mps have different— begun, and very many mps have different reasons as to why there wasn't _ different reasons as to why there wasn't such an appalling result. michael— wasn't such an appalling result. michael gove, who is the minister for leveling up, has identified it must _ for leveling up, has identified it must be — for leveling up, has identified it must be to do with the fact that people — must be to do with the fact that people under 35 haven't been able to -et people under 35 haven't been able to get on _ people under 35 haven't been able to get on the _ people under 35 haven't been able to get on the housing ladder. that's absolutely right. that could be one reason _ absolutely right. that could be one reason for — absolutely right. that could be one reason for many people to think, why should _ reason for many people to think, why should i bother putting tory was back— should i bother putting tory was back at the same time, that particular— back at the same time, that particular cohort of people have also been — particular cohort of people have also been clobbered with extra taxes or the _ also been clobbered with extra taxes or the increase in national contributions. it's a partial rationale _ contributions. it's a partial rationale as to why those people didn't— rationale as to why those people didn't vote for conservative. what's interesting — didn't vote for conservative. what's interesting about this article, it's notjust— interesting about this article, it's notjust michael gove. bills around improving how many houses _ bills around improving how many houses are — bills around improving how many houses are built and whether landlords can rejuvenate the high streets — landlords can rejuvenate the high streets. but if you look at some of the other— streets. but if you look at some of the other mp5 and what they're saying — the other mp5 and what they're saying about why people didn't vote for the _ saying about why people didn't vote for the conservatives, there coming up for the conservatives, there coming up with— for the conservatives, there coming up with different reasons, and some of them _ up with different reasons, and some of them are — up with different reasons, and some of them are to do with boris johnson -- thev're _ of them are to do with boris johnson -- thev're it— of them are to do with boris johnson —— they're. it was a bad night for the conservatives, but even internally, people are saying it's a bad night — internally, people are saying it's a bad night for boris johnson as well. the sunday— bad night for boris johnson as well. the sunday express. it doesn't want to look at postmortems too much. pm promises brexit bills bonanza. synthetic headline.— promises brexit bills bonanza. s nthetic headline. , ., , synthetic headline. yes, reasonably. like the queen _ synthetic headline. yes, reasonably. like the queen 's _ synthetic headline. yes, reasonably. like the queen 's speech _ synthetic headline. yes, reasonably. like the queen 's speech itself, i synthetic headline. yes, reasonably. like the queen 's speech itself, we l like the queen �*s speech itself, we assume the article is short on detail. there is a lot of analysis to show the kind of difficulty that the conservatives face and a whole host of different areas. the discussion that red tape will be slashed and growth will be boosted is all very well, but how are you going to achieve that? presumably, it would have been done by now. no one waits until elections before producing a plan for growth and the slashing of red tape. little in detail. analysis by the academic willjennings showed that at the local elections, there is a link between the areas labour gained and warehouse prices increased. this is the kind of thing the conservatives will be looking at and thinking how they address that. a lot of noise and speeches about how they are going to both fix it, whether it is the housing crisis, the cost of living crisis, rising inflation or any other issues. how they actually address that remains to be seen. so far, the local elections and the polling suggests they have some way to go to convince the public that solutions they have are workable or even viable. let's look at our final paper, the sunday mirror. i'm going to give you each about 32nd. is that losing the fun? it each about 32nd. is that losing the fun? .,, , ., each about 32nd. is that losing the fun? , ., ., fun? it loses the whole allure of... there's also _ fun? it loses the whole allure of... there's also a _ fun? it loses the whole allure of... there's also a story _ fun? it loses the whole allure of... there's also a story about - fun? it loses the whole allure of... there's also a story about how i fun? it loses the whole allure of... | there's also a story about how likes baked _ there's also a story about how likes baked beans. iwant there's also a story about how likes baked beans. i want them to be different, i want them to sparkle and i_ different, i want them to sparkle and i want — different, i want them to sparkle and i want them to be able to curtsv — and i want them to be able to curtsv i— and i want them to be able to curtsy. i knowjoe does, too. do you want them — curtsy. i knowjoe does, too. do you want them to _ curtsy. i know joe does, too. do you want them to be _ curtsy. i knowjoe does, too. do you want them to be olympian - curtsy. i knowjoe does, too. do you want them to be olympian or- want them to be olympian or opprobrium?— want them to be olympian or opprobrium? want them to be olympian or o- robrium? �* , , , ., opprobrium? beings, beings, are good for our opprobrium? beings, beings, are good for your heart. — opprobrium? beings, beings, are good for your heart, beans, _ opprobrium? beings, beings, are good for your heart, beans, beans, - opprobrium? beings, beings, are good for your heart, beans, beans, make i foryour heart, beans, beans, make you queen? using first names is all very well, but the whole divine right offers a degree of traditionalism around all of this. i can't imagine it would produce a massive change in public support. i would bet her once and did bowel, but they were considerably... —— did bowel. i but they were considerably... -- did bowel. ., �* ~'

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