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hello and welcome to our look ahead to what the the papers will be bringing us tomorrow. with me are parliamentary journalist tony grew and journalist and broadcaster, caroline frost. hello to you both. tomorrow's front pages, starting with... says record numbers of people have been referred for cancer checks in the last year after a decline during the last year after a decline during the pandemic. however, the express says despite record referral levels, health care officials are worried about clearing a backlog in cases caused by the pandemic. the guardian says the government is facing intense pressure from its own mps as well as opposition parties to take action over misogyny and harassment in westminster. and the telegraph says that borisjohnson wants to give more than 2 million households in england who rent properties from housing association is the power to purchase their homes at a discounted price. the mail says that conservative mps are calling on sir keir starmer to prove that he didn't break covid rules last year after the labor leader was filmed drinking beer with colleagues at an event last april. and you may have noticed, princess charlotte features on many of the front pages today including the mirror. and the photo taken by her mother that the duchess of cambridge, charlotte is celebrating her seventh birthday. tomorrow, of course. tony, you will kick us off, front page of the times, and a positive story, there is a boost for cancer care as referrals hit record levels. there is cause for _ referrals hit record levels. there is cause for concern _ referrals hit record levels. there is cause for concern today - referrals hit record levels. there is cause for concern today with l referrals hit record levels. there l is cause for concern today with the that they are not exactly hitting the target in terms of rates for referrals, but this is saying a record number of people have been for checks for cancer, and they are now above pre—pandemic levels and thatis now above pre—pandemic levels and that is on the face of it good news but it is worth pointing out that cancer is not the only thing the energis deals with, with waiting times for elective surgery in the nhs all significantly up and the service itself is in crisis. people are coming out of the pandemic into the massive backlog caused by the pandemic, so this might well be a positive story in that sense but there are lots of things happening in the nhs that are not positive. caroline? , , ., , ., , ., caroline? this is a story we have seen with _ caroline? this is a story we have seen with these _ caroline? this is a story we have seen with these front _ caroline? this is a story we have seen with these front pages, - caroline? this is a story we havei seen with these front pages, the times_ seen with these front pages, the times and — seen with these front pages, the times and daily express, that there two ways— times and daily express, that there two ways of looking at this bit of data. _ two ways of looking at this bit of data. it — two ways of looking at this bit of data. it is — two ways of looking at this bit of data, it is good news that the restrictions of lockdown, particularly horrifying stories of people — particularly horrifying stories of people having to go through treatment without having visitors, are very _ treatment without having visitors, are very solitary experience, back these _ are very solitary experience, back these numbers are very high, and the express— these numbers are very high, and the express is— these numbers are very high, and the express is concentrating on the negative, — express is concentrating on the negative, the size of the backlog and the — negative, the size of the backlog and the fact that they could possibly take years to catch up in any meaningful way, but in theory, this is— any meaningful way, but in theory, this is a _ any meaningful way, but in theory, this is a step towards that happening. this has got to be better, — happening. this has got to be better, although these numbers are horribly— better, although these numbers are horribly high than these people not getting _ horribly high than these people not getting the treatment, diagnosis and referrals _ getting the treatment, diagnosis and referrals that they need so it depends— referrals that they need so it depends what way you want to look at it, i depends what way you want to look at it. i guess _ depends what way you want to look at it, i guess. you depends what way you want to look at it, i cuess. ., ., ., ~' depends what way you want to look at it, i cuess. ., ., ., ~ , depends what way you want to look at it, i cuess. ., , ., it, i guess. you took us to the front page _ it, i guess. you took us to the front page of _ it, i guess. you took us to the front page of the _ it, i guess. you took us to the front page of the express. - it, i guess. you took us to the l front page of the express. that it, i guess. you took us to the - front page of the express. that is great. would you like to add anything to that before we move on, tony? anything to that before we move on, ton ?, , ., anything to that before we move on, ton 7, , ., ., ., anything to that before we move on, ton , , ., .., , tony? just that caroline has rightly identified how _ tony? just that caroline has rightly identified how different _ tony? just that caroline has rightly identified how different these - identified how different these papers can take the same fact and make a different story out of it. turning to the guardian now, a political story, the bad apples claim fuels a parliamentary sexism row. , , ., claim fuels a parliamentary sexism row. , , . ., , claim fuels a parliamentary sexism row. , ,. ., , row. this is an ill-advised comment from kwasi — row. this is an ill-advised comment from kwasi kwarteng, _ row. this is an ill-advised comment from kwasi kwarteng, the _ row. this is an ill-advised comment from kwasi kwarteng, the cabinet l from kwasi kwarteng, the cabinet minister. firstly there should not be any bad apples, it is not as if there being a few of them makes their behaviour acceptable, and this is by my camp around the third or fourth time there's been a massive scandal in parliament to do with the behaviour of members of parliament. and i think that what we really need to do is reflect on ways in which the culture at westminster can be changed, and that is going to be very difficult. the conservative party are talking about having more female candidates, hoping that having more female mps will help with that but there are structural issues around the ways in which mps are expected to hire and manage their own staff, which many of them are not qualified to do, which leads to very bad consequences. it is to very bad consequences. it is interesting _ to very bad consequences. it is interesting that _ to very bad consequences. it is interesting that the _ to very bad consequences. it is interesting that the tory line, the government line this morning was that clearly it is somehow worse to be seen _ that clearly it is somehow worse to be seen to— that clearly it is somehow worse to be seen to be having a torture than it is to _ be seen to be having a torture than it is to have — be seen to be having a torture than it is to have these bad apples, as tony— it is to have these bad apples, as tony said. — it is to have these bad apples, as tony said, one had apples, the spending — tony said, one had apples, the spending on its later rottenness, then there — spending on its later rottenness, then there be trouble. but something is the _ then there be trouble. but something is the day~ _ then there be trouble. but something is the day. it is 56 bad apples being — is the day. it is 56 bad apples being investigated for various misbehaviour is, across all of the parties _ misbehaviour is, across all of the parties and — misbehaviour is, across all of the parties and obviously something has -ot parties and obviously something has got to— parties and obviously something has got to give, all heroes of this business _ got to give, all heroes of this business being conducted in bars, in a state _ business being conducted in bars, in a state of— business being conducted in bars, in a state of social behaviour as much as government and parliamentary behaviour— as government and parliamentary behaviour and of course these mps are a _ behaviour and of course these mps are a long — behaviour and of course these mps are a long way from home and it takes _ are a long way from home and it takes over— are a long way from home and it takes over their lives. we have seen this all— takes over their lives. we have seen this all too— takes over their lives. we have seen this all too often in the reports that have — this all too often in the reports that have come out, so something has -ot that have come out, so something has got to— that have come out, so something has got to give _ that have come out, so something has got to give i_ that have come out, so something has got to give. i am not quite sure what _ got to give. i am not quite sure what the — got to give. i am not quite sure what the solution is, because of this system as it currently is with all of— this system as it currently is with all of the — this system as it currently is with all of the representation in one metropolis, in one building but clearly, — metropolis, in one building but clearly, having a more equal balance of women _ clearly, having a more equal balance of women and men in that building would _ of women and men in that building would he _ of women and men in that building would he a — of women and men in that building would be a start.— would be a start. tony, before we move on. — would be a start. tony, before we move on. if— would be a start. tony, before we move on. if we — would be a start. tony, before we move on, if we talk— would be a start. tony, before we move on, if we talk about - would be a start. tony, before we move on, if we talk about the - move on, if we talk about the culture, was it always there, or has it been allowed to develop, and is it been allowed to develop, and is it a case, more, that it is being reported now rather than being allowed to slide? what is the true picture? it allowed to slide? what is the true icture? , ., , ., ., ., picture? it is a bit of all of those thins. picture? it is a bit of all of those things- the _ picture? it is a bit of all of those things. the drinking _ picture? it is a bit of all of those things. the drinking culture - picture? it is a bit of all of those things. the drinking culture is i things. the drinking culture is different from what it was in the 19705 different from what it was in the 1970s but there are still alcohol available. my concern is about the way in which mps behave in their offices, how they treat their staff. and that, to me, is a bigger part of it. there are big problems with alcohol in the sense that some people drink too much but it is worth pointing out that it is not the vast majority of mps, they are not going around watching pornography in the chamber, or trying to sexually molest researchers. but in the conservative party particularly, a significant majority of the mps are men and that just inevitably leads to a different culture. it just inevitably leads to a different culture. , , ., ., culture. it is interesting that more and more younger _ culture. it is interesting that more and more younger people - culture. it is interesting that more and more younger people are - culture. it is interesting that more i and more younger people are aware culture. it is interesting that more - and more younger people are aware of what is going on because much of this is on social media and they don't have to read the newspapers, it pops up on the timeline one way or another. the daily telegraph, caroline, and we are talking about, it is not a new plan, is it? it is it is not a new plan, is it? it is very familiar— it is not a new plan, is it? it is very familiar to _ it is not a new plan, is it? it is very familiar to an _ it is not a new plan, is it? it is very familiar to an old - it is not a new plan, is it? it is very familiar to an old plan, isn't it? i_ very familiar to an old plan, isn't it? iam— very familiar to an old plan, isn't it? i am amazed that this hasn't popped — it? i am amazed that this hasn't popped up — it? i am amazed that this hasn't popped up out of the tory playbook, the manual, for winning elections before, _ the manual, for winning elections before, really, but borisjohnson is wanting _ before, really, but borisjohnson is wanting to — before, really, but borisjohnson is wanting to offer people who are in co—ownership with housing associations, the chance to buy their— associations, the chance to buy their own. _ associations, the chance to buy their own, what is the variation, 'ust their own, what is the variation, just to _ their own, what is the variation, just to he — their own, what is the variation, just to be byron council house, this is by— just to be byron council house, this is by your— just to be byron council house, this is by your own housing association dwelling, _ is by your own housing association dwelling, so obviously hoping that property— dwelling, so obviously hoping that property ownership will go up and, as we _ property ownership will go up and, as we know, that is historically associated with voting conservative, somehow _ associated with voting conservative, somehow as soon as you get a deed document— somehow as soon as you get a deed document in— somehow as soon as you get a deed document in your lap, you suddenly become _ document in your lap, you suddenly become a _ document in your lap, you suddenly become a tory. i'm not sure whether that happens— become a tory. i'm not sure whether that happens but i guess it is protecting your own backyard, but it does happen, and i think he is thinking — does happen, and i think he is thinking that maybe at some point in his administration is going to have to come _ his administration is going to have to come up— his administration is going to have to come up with a policy that isn't 'ust to come up with a policy that isn't just reacting to world and domestic events, _ just reacting to world and domestic events, and this could be his winner. _ events, and this could be his winner, but we will see how far he takes _ winner, but we will see how far he takes it _ winner, but we will see how far he takes it do — winner, but we will see how far he takes it. , ., ,, winner, but we will see how far he takes it. ,, ~' ., takes it. do you think it would ha en, takes it. do you think it would happen. and _ takes it. do you think it would happen, and also, _ takes it. do you think it would happen, and also, what- takes it. do you think it would happen, and also, what is- takes it. do you think it would happen, and also, what is thej takes it. do you think it would - happen, and also, what is the legacy of thatcher's plan back in? the lea is of thatcher's plan back in? the legacy is that _ of thatcher's plan back in? tie: legacy is that councils did of thatcher's plan back in? tue: legacy is that councils did not get the money to rebuild those salsa so thatis the money to rebuild those salsa so that is why we have a massive housing crisis in this. i could presume they have not consulted housing associations on these plans to sell off their homes. this old chestnut again, i am not against that, anything that increases home ownership is good but the point is that this is a government that has already has pledged 300,000 homes a year and is never new that targets of the idea that they are going to sell off more than 2 million properties and not replace them is madness as far as i am concerned. let's turn to the mail. here we go again. show us the proof, sir keir. this is the government drawing, some people _ this is the government drawing, some people might think a false equivalence, but certainly trying to point _ equivalence, but certainly trying to point out _ equivalence, but certainly trying to point out that where keir starmer has been — point out that where keir starmer has been doing a good job standing up has been doing a good job standing up at _ has been doing a good job standing up at prime minister's questions and laying _ up at prime minister's questions and laying on _ up at prime minister's questions and laying on the line the lies and mendacity the government has been guilty— mendacity the government has been guilty of— mendacity the government has been guilty of during the partygate saga, they are _ guilty of during the partygate saga, they are trying to lay one at his door _ they are trying to lay one at his door we — they are trying to lay one at his door. we saw that someone months ago that picture _ door. we saw that someone months ago that picture of him with a beard, wearing — that picture of him with a beard, wearing glasses, and he has been saving _ wearing glasses, and he has been saying over and over again that this was a _ saying over and over again that this was a legal— saying over and over again that this was a legal break during a working day and _ was a legal break during a working day and he — was a legal break during a working day and he is being told that the onus _ day and he is being told that the onus is — day and he is being told that the onus is on — day and he is being told that the onus is on you to prove that. i would — onus is on you to prove that. i would have _ onus is on you to prove that. i would have thought that the onus was on someone else to disprove that but this is— on someone else to disprove that but this is obviously playing to their base, _ this is obviously playing to their base, daily mail readers reading this first — base, daily mail readers reading this first thing tomorrow thinking that perhaps is a bit of a hypocrite after _ that perhaps is a bit of a hypocrite after all _ that perhaps is a bit of a hypocrite after all. the one thing that voters do not _ after all. the one thing that voters do not like — after all. the one thing that voters do not like since the back to basics days is— do not like since the back to basics days is hypocrisy so he may find it easy— days is hypocrisy so he may find it easy to _ days is hypocrisy so he may find it easy to disprove this. the days is hypocrisy so he may find it easy to disprove this.— days is hypocrisy so he may find it easy to disprove this. the blows are not landing — easy to disprove this. the blows are not landing because _ easy to disprove this. the blows are not landing because 56 _ easy to disprove this. the blows are not landing because 56 people - easy to disprove this. the blows are not landing because 56 people have| not landing because 56 people have been fine at downing street for breaking the law. this is a flimflam. there was a delivery driver but he changed the story when approached by the mail. they are trying to shift the story away from documented lawbreaking in downing street. there is a case for —— if there is a case for keir starmer to answer that is up to durham police to investigate but my understanding is that they do not think there is a case to answer, but for him to have to prove that he was still working at five past ten on a friday night, that are such an odd angle to take but it shows that the conservatives are trying to react with this partygate thing and do encompass the labour party into that and to my mind, this isjust not working. the mind, this is 'ust not working. the mirror, mind, this isjust not working. the mirror, happy birthday princess charlotte, caroline? can mirror, happy birthday princess charlotte, caroline?— mirror, happy birthday princess charlotte, caroline? can you believe that she is seven? _ charlotte, caroline? can you believe that she is seven? word _ charlotte, caroline? can you believe that she is seven? word of - charlotte, caroline? can you believe that she is seven? word of the - charlotte, caroline? can you believe| that she is seven? word of the years -o? that she is seven? word of the years go? i_ that she is seven? word of the years go? i know— that she is seven? word of the years go? i know that for two of them we have all— go? i know that for two of them we have all been locked away but it feels _ have all been locked away but it feels that the impressive, freshly new mother and the duchess of cambridge was standing on those steps. _ cambridge was standing on those steps. it— cambridge was standing on those steps, it seems like yesterday. it is a very— steps, it seems like yesterday. it is a very sweet picture, a beautiful dog. _ is a very sweet picture, a beautiful dog. we _ is a very sweet picture, a beautiful dog. we all— is a very sweet picture, a beautiful dog, we all love a picture of a dog, that is— dog, we all love a picture of a dog, that is the — dog, we all love a picture of a dog, that is the only thing you should be posting _ that is the only thing you should be posting on — that is the only thing you should be posting on twitter is a picture of a sweet _ posting on twitter is a picture of a sweet dog! — posting on twitter is a picture of a sweet dog! this is a tradition that the duchess of cambridge gets her camera _ the duchess of cambridge gets her camera out for her children and it seems _ camera out for her children and it seems to— camera out for her children and it seems to be playing to that quite neat strategy that the cambridge blue might have with the press which is, give _ blue might have with the press which is, give us _ blue might have with the press which is, give us some sweet pictures of her smiling — is, give us some sweet pictures of her smiling brood and they generally -et her smiling brood and they generally get left _ her smiling brood and they generally get left alone the rest of the time. tony. _ get left alone the rest of the time. tony. the — get left alone the rest of the time. tony, the adopted dog is 0rla, she's tony, the adopted dog is orla, she's three years old, i love providing you with these details! the thing is with charlotte, in terms of engaging with charlotte, in terms of engaging with journalists, with charlotte, in terms of engaging withjournalists, she is over the —— always the one who waves and does look at the photographers, isn't she? t look at the photographers, isn't she? .�* look at the photographers, isn't she? ., �* ~ ., look at the photographers, isn't she? ., �* 4' ., ., she? i don't know! one thing i would sa , it is she? i don't know! one thing i would say, it is interesting _ she? i don't know! one thing i would say, it is interesting how— she? i don't know! one thing i would say, it is interesting how the - say, it is interesting how the duchess of cambridge controls the image, takes the photos, send them to the newspapers. she is quite snappy in dealing with the media in that sense but it is a lovely dog! there were three images but that is the one that all of the papers have gone for. it was wasted on you, caroline, totally wasted. he wouldn't — caroline, totally wasted. he wouldn't understand the importance, very strange. she wouldn't understand the importance, very strange-— very strange. she has the royal wave down to a pat. _ very strange. she has the royal wave down to a pat, tony _ very strange. she has the royal wave down to a pat, tony was _ very strange. she has the royal wave down to a pat, tony was a _ very strange. she has the royal wave down to a pat, tony was a pleasure, | down to a pat, tony was a pleasure, as with you, caroline, a very good evening for you both, you're in for a cracking week, tony, thank you both very much indeed! thank you for joining us on the papers, from myself and the team, i wish you good night. goodbye. hello and a very warm welcome to the film review on bbc news. i'm glad to see mark kermode is back from his holidays. hello! what have you been watching? well, we have a new downton abbey movie. i'm assuming that you're familiar with downton abbey! oh, yes! we have we're all going to the world's fair, which is an eerie internet horrorfilm. and casablanca beats, which was the moroccan entry for the academy awards. ah, downton! ah! it's like slipping into a warm bath, isn't it? i've been humming the theme tune all day! so, downton abbey: a new era. new? so, the stately home's roof is leaking, so they have to allow the "kinema" to come to downton, to make a film — i think they call it "practising colour photography" — in order to make some money to fix the roof. and dominic west and laura haddock are the two screen icons who turn up. meanwhile, half of the cast are sent off to the south of france, because maggie smith's dowager has magically inherited a villa, although no—one is quite sure why! here's a clip. enjoy your stay. he clears throat |your butler lends a welcome air| of splendour to the proceedings. he can stand down if you prefer.

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