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at russian atrocities. and japan says the bodies of ten people have been recovered after their sightseeing boat sank off the northern island of hokkaido. a total of 26 were on board the vessel. hello, and welcome to our look ahead to what the papers will be bringing us tomorrow. with me are lizzy buchan, deputy online political editor at the daily mirror, and david bond, deputy political editor at the evening standard. we will say hello properly to both in just a moment. tomorrow's front pages, starting with... let's start with the metro, which reflects what some other front pages look like tomorrow, marking emmanuel macron�*s expected re—election as france's president, but also focusing on the war in ukraine. their main story tells of three generations of the same family, including a three—month—old baby, killed in russian air strikes in odesa. claims that vladimir putin considers peace talks on ukraine to be at a "dead end" is the second story on the ft. its main feature is macron�*s projected victory in france. to the telegraph, which also focuses on macron�*s expected win. it says he's acknowledged one of the reason he's managed to return to the elysee palace is because people voted in spite of him as they didn't want to choose marine le pen. the guardian also devotes most of its front page to macron�*s projected victory, calling it a victory for him and also for the european union. and finally, the daily mail also has a picture of president macron and his wife brigitte, but its main story is a reported shortage of available hrt drugs. so, let's begin. one big story of course is the french election. good evening to you both and thank you for coming back on. let's start with the daily telegraph as i mentioned as we could almost pick any paper but we will start there. interestingly the line they had picked out is i owe you, emmanuel macron premises france as he admits voters back to him only in order to keep marine le pen from power. what do you make of that? interesting first response from emmanuel macron, who has been pitted to win sort of a decisive victory in the second round of the french presidential election. it's interesting that his first response to that victory, which is the first, makes him the first sitting president to be reelected in more than 20 years, is to basically turn to the voters and say i owe you for this, thank you for lending me your support. and he is very frick about the fact that a lot of people who backed him in this round of the contest will have done so because they did not want marine le pen rid of them because they did want him. he has obviously him and marine le pen were both battling to pick up the votes that went to other parties in the first round. there it was quite certificate number of people who voted for the far left candidate and they were both scrapping for those votes, so he makes the point that he has to try and win the trust of these voters. and i think it's quite interesting that the telegraph picked out in this the comparison between these remarks and boris johnson's election in 2019 where he sort said something quite similar where he said he would repay, when the trust of the voters when they let him their votes to keepjeremy corbyn out of power and to deliver brexit. . , . , brexit. that is an interesting arallel brexit. that is an interesting parallel actually _ brexit. that is an interesting parallel actually and - brexit. that is an interesting parallel actually and actually j brexit. that is an interesting i parallel actually and actually in his speech afterwards, when he mentioned marine le pen's name, the crowd started building as if it was kind of a campaign rally and he made a point of telling them not to boot, say he is the president of all of france now. let's go to the front page of the times and david, their headline is on a similar theme but looks ahead to a difficult challenge with the headline emmanuel macron valves to reunite france after election when. that will not be easy. election when. that will not be eas . ., ., , election when. that will not be eas. ., ., , easy. no, it will not be easy and he is takin: easy. no, it will not be easy and he is taking charge _ easy. no, it will not be easy and he is taking charge again _ easy. no, it will not be easy and he is taking charge again of— easy. no, it will not be easy and he is taking charge again of a - easy. no, it will not be easy and he is taking charge again of a country i is taking charge again of a country that is_ is taking charge again of a country that is deeply divided, according to the election result that we have seen _ the election result that we have seen tonight. and it isjust worth pausing — seen tonight. and it isjust worth pausing to— seen tonight. and it isjust worth pausing to take stock as of course he has _ pausing to take stock as of course he has one — pausing to take stock as of course he has one with a noticeable mandate, but more than 40% of the voters _ mandate, but more than 40% of the voters tonight have backed the far—right party of marine le pen and that's— far—right party of marine le pen and that's a _ far—right party of marine le pen and that's a big — far—right party of marine le pen and that's a big jump on the last result in 2017 _ that's a big jump on the last result in 2017 where i think it was an 8% his point— in 2017 where i think it was an 8% his point increase and of course that vote — his point increase and of course that vote for the far right has increased _ that vote for the far right has increased steadily over time. so if anyone _ increased steadily over time. so if anyone thought that the sorta populist — anyone thought that the sorta populist far right was given the sorta _ populist far right was given the sorta populist far right was given away, _ sorta populist far right was given away, that clearly is not the case and bring — away, that clearly is not the case and bring it— away, that clearly is not the case and bring it further forward, the assembly— and bring it further forward, the assembly elections are in june. and bring it further forward, the assembly elections are injune. and emmanuet— assembly elections are injune. and emmanuel macron's party were to try and find — emmanuel macron's party were to try and find some way to find a consensus between the far left and the far— consensus between the far left and the far right to try and find some mandate — the far right to try and find some mandate to govern because he will find it _ mandate to govern because he will find it actually difficult, marine le pen — find it actually difficult, marine le pen say tonight that she and the sort of— le pen say tonight that she and the sort of fight starts here for those elections — sort of fight starts here for those elections. and there is a risk that despite _ elections. and there is a risk that despite winning again and becoming argue _ despite winning again and becoming argue with the most powerful leader in europe, _ argue with the most powerful leader in europe, someone who is committed to the _ in europe, someone who is committed to the eu _ in europe, someone who is committed to the eu project and there will of been a _ to the eu project and there will of been a huge amount of relief in brussels — been a huge amount of relief in brussels and other european capitals tonight, _ brussels and other european capitals tonight, there is a risk that unless he can— tonight, there is a risk that unless he can secure some kind of mandate and find _ he can secure some kind of mandate and find a _ he can secure some kind of mandate and find a way through in those assembly— and find a way through in those assembly elections in june, and find a way through in those assembly elections injune, then he could _ assembly elections injune, then he could become really bogged down in his second _ could become really bogged down in his second term. let�*s could become really bogged down in his second term.— his second term. let's go to the front page _ his second term. let's go to the front page of — his second term. let's go to the front page of the _ his second term. let's go to the front page of the guardian - his second term. let's go to the front page of the guardian and i front page of the guardian and before you move on from the story i want to reflect the international dimension here. emmanuel macron pledges unity after he fends off marine le pen threat is the headline but interestingly their first sub headline is european leaders hail the french president for a second term as i did not read that very well but we get the idea that he has been billeted and that does not happen very often but the eu responses interesting.- happen very often but the eu responses interesting. yes, so eur0pean _ responses interesting. yes, so european leaders _ responses interesting. yes, so european leaders will - responses interesting. yes, so european leaders will honestly responses interesting. yes, so i european leaders will honestly be breathing a big sigh of relief tonight. emmanuel macron is one of the most in france is one of the most significant forces in the european union. emmanuel macron is a pro—eu candidate and a victory for marine le pen would have been an extraordinary moment for many reasons, but in the context of the european union, it would have been a huge shift from the kind of politics that emmanuel macron is advancing. marine le pen is a validly you're a sceptic and also is sceptical about nato and a lot of papers include in the guardian cast this as a sort of and for european security particularly in the context of the war in ukraine.— particularly in the context of the war in ukraine. exactly that. kind of a continuity — war in ukraine. exactly that. kind of a continuity with _ war in ukraine. exactly that. kind of a continuity with regards - war in ukraine. exactly that. kind of a continuity with regards to - of a continuity with regards to foreign policy. can we stay with un the front page of the guardian and the front page of the guardian and the story on the right—hand side of the story on the right—hand side of the page, the second story, furey etzler angela rayner uses her body to distract prime minister as it is been rambling for couple of days now. , , ., ., ., , now. this is extraordinary. there has been a _ now. this is extraordinary. there has been a huge _ now. this is extraordinary. there has been a huge backlash - now. this is extraordinary. there has been a huge backlash to - now. this is extraordinary. there has been a huge backlash to a i now. this is extraordinary. there - has been a huge backlash to a report in the mail on sunday that some anonymous conservative mps have been floating that angela rayner had tried to distract borisjohnson during prime minister's questions about crossing and uncrossing her legs, which they compared in a frankly as she described it as a perverted smear, comparing her to sharon stone in the film basic instinct, which isjust an absolutely extraordinary thing to say. there has been a huge backlash about this and angela rayner came out and condemned as sort of a wildlife and borisjohnson tweeted earlier that he did not in disagreed with angela rayner on many things in politics but he thought it was appalling and it did not come from him, condemned to outright. so, it's a very interesting thing because it also in the story they make reference to the original story and the fact that compare angela rayner and borisjohnson's backgrounds anonymously borisjohnson is well known to have been educated at eton couege known to have been educated at eton college went to oxford university and they draw on the comparison between his experience in learning and debating in the oxford union and her background where she left school at 16 and was a single teenage mother and worked as a carer. so there is a lot of christmas will about the kind of snobbery and class criticism in that particular really because angela rayner is well regarded as a very strong debater. so it's a very strange story.- so it's a very strange story. really from ou so it's a very strange story. really from you on _ so it's a very strange story. really from you on this, _ so it's a very strange story. really from you on this, does _ so it's a very strange story. really from you on this, does raise - so it's a very strange story. really from you on this, does raise an i from you on this, does raise an eyebrow when he read it and what did you make of the reaction to it? it just looks like an appalling misjudgment by the mail a sunday on this story~ _ misjudgment by the mail a sunday on this story. what happens next is that caroline nokes, who is the chair— that caroline nokes, who is the chair of— that caroline nokes, who is the chair of the women's inequalities committee in parliament, has asked the speaker to examine whether the mail us— the speaker to examine whether the mail us nate journalist who wrote this should have his pastor move. i don't _ this should have his pastor move. i don't know— this should have his pastor move. i don't know what the process they were _ don't know what the process they were exactly or what might happen next but _ were exactly or what might happen next but it's clearly because a huge backlash _ next but it's clearly because a huge backlash with mps and parliamentarians from all sides coming — parliamentarians from all sides coming together to condemn the story~ _ coming together to condemn the story~ and — coming together to condemn the story. and also as she was saying there. _ story. and also as she was saying there. the — story. and also as she was saying there, the interesting thing of course — there, the interesting thing of course is _ there, the interesting thing of course is angela rayner when she has stood _ course is angela rayner when she has stood in _ course is angela rayner when she has stood in pm _ course is angela rayner when she has stood in pm cues for the labour leader— stood in pm cues for the labour leader has— stood in pm cues for the labour leader has won quite a lot of credit for how— leader has won quite a lot of credit for how she — leader has won quite a lot of credit for how she has performed with many actually— for how she has performed with many actually saying that maybe keir starnfer — actually saying that maybe keir starmer has nervously looked at how she performs in the house as she fights— she performs in the house as she fights to — she performs in the house as she fights to in — she performs in the house as she fights to in many ways i don't like this will— fights to in many ways i don't like this will go away quickly. let�*s fights to in many ways i don't like this will go away quickly.- this will go away quickly. let's go to the front _ this will go away quickly. let's go to the front page _ this will go away quickly. let's go to the front page of— this will go away quickly. let's go to the front page of the _ this will go away quickly. let's go to the front page of the times . this will go away quickly. let's go | to the front page of the times and again a story on the right—hand side as we zoom in, and not sounding like great news for the prime minister here. the headline the suit great rapport is so damning borisjohnson will have to quit. can you explain this to us was met so the party gate story will not go away for boris johnson so this is a very interesting bit of briefing that the times have gotten hold of and so sue gray who many rural recall is a senior whitehall civil servant who was tasked with doing an investigation into the reports about lockdown and parties in dentistry and whitehall during the pandemic and whitehall during the pandemic and she was originally supposed to be the person doing the report when the police originally said they would not investigate. and the police originally said they would not investigate. and when the olice to would not investigate. and when the police to come _ would not investigate. and when the police to come out _ would not investigate. and when the police to come out in _ would not investigate. and when the police to come out in january - would not investigate. and when the police to come out in january and - police to come out injanuary and say actually we are going to look at these parties and we will know now that fines be given out by the police, sue gray put her report on hold and let scotland yard finish their investigation. and she is not going to publish until that is completed. but her interim report was quite critical. it was very short but in it she condemned the kata failure of leadership in downing street that allowed these events to take place and the times is saying that her report, or for poor is going to be so excoriating that boris johnson poor is going to be so excoriating that borisjohnson will be put in a position where he may feel he has no choice but to resign. because it will not only criticise the culture that was allowed to build under his leadership but also critically his own attendance at these parties. what do you make of it? i recall that when the lie was going around that when the lie was going around that it borisjohnson was fined and was found to have broken the law, he would have to go. and that did not happen so what do you make of this? we thought about this for quite a long time. sniffing about the story in the _ long time. sniffing about the story in the times is that over the last few months when party gate has been raging, _ few months when party gate has been raging, we _ few months when party gate has been raging, we have mostly been hearing from the _ raging, we have mostly been hearing from the same sorts of conservative mps, _ from the same sorts of conservative mps. often — from the same sorts of conservative mps, often well— known critics of boris _ mps, often well— known critics of boris johnson, mps, often well— known critics of borisjohnson, people who have already— borisjohnson, people who have already sort of copper indigo like tobias _ already sort of copper indigo like tobias ellwood and the like. but the vast majority of conservative backbenchers come if you speak to them _ backbenchers come if you speak to them privately, they will say i quite — them privately, they will say i quite like _ them privately, they will say i quite like to wait and see everything. and we heard this in the debate _ everything. and we heard this in the debate last— everything. and we heard this in the debate last week in the house. on the privilege committee investigation. a lot of them are saying — investigation. a lot of them are saying they still want to see everything, the met inquiry completed in the sue gray report published in full before making a call on _ published in full before making a call on what to do about boris johnson — call on what to do about boris johnson so i think the fact that this briefing and actually could be really _ this briefing and actually could be really excoriating, that can be quite — really excoriating, that can be quite significant. in really excoriating, that can be quite significant.— really excoriating, that can be quite significant. in a similar kind of line and _ quite significant. in a similar kind of line and if— quite significant. in a similar kind of line and if you _ quite significant. in a similar kind of line and if you could _ quite significant. in a similar kind of line and if you could talk- quite significant. in a similar kind of line and if you could talk her. of line and if you could talk her through this because it is linked and the headline is to wait rebels join forces to oust prime minister. so the i is digging into the kata manoeuvring about this. and they make the point that is looking to be a bit more organised this time around. you could see that last week when the debates were happening in parliament about one of the prime minister should be referred to the privileges committee for an investigation into whether he misled parliament with what he said about party gate, which was originally he claimed no rules being broken, which we know now is not the case because he has received a fine from the met police for at least one event and potentially there could be more. and that many fines have been handed out. so, you can see people like steve baker, who is sort of a very prominent backbencher who played a key role in a lot of brexit fighting and was instrumental in kind of a lot of those backbench organisers coming out and saying this is... we cannot thwart the prime minister any more if that is a kind of a sign of the service with and also you are starting to hear more organisation around behind the scenes which could be a problem. around behind the scenes which could be a problem-— be a problem. afraid we are out of time to to — be a problem. afraid we are out of time to to jump — be a problem. afraid we are out of time to to jump in _ be a problem. afraid we are out of time to to jump in but _ be a problem. afraid we are out of time to to jump in but apologies . be a problem. afraid we are out of l time to to jump in but apologies and thank you both very much for talking us through that stuff across a lot of the papers. thank you for that. that's it for the papers this hour. next on bbc news, it's the film review.

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at russian atrocities. and japan says the bodies of ten people have been recovered after their sightseeing boat sank off the northern island of hokkaido. a total of 26 were on board the vessel. hello, and welcome to our look ahead to what the papers will be bringing us tomorrow. with me are lizzy buchan, deputy online political editor at the daily mirror, and david bond, deputy political editor at the evening standard. we will say hello properly to both in just a moment. tomorrow's front pages, starting with... let's start with the metro, which reflects what some other front pages look like tomorrow, marking emmanuel macron�*s expected re—election as france's president, but also focusing on the war in ukraine. their main story tells of three generations of the same family, including a three—month—old baby, killed in russian air strikes in odesa. claims that vladimir putin considers peace talks on ukraine to be at a "dead end" is the second story on the ft. its main feature is macron�*s projected victory in france. to the telegraph, which also focuses on macron�*s expected win. it says he's acknowledged one of the reason he's managed to return to the elysee palace is because people voted in spite of him as they didn't want to choose marine le pen. the guardian also devotes most of its front page to macron�*s projected victory, calling it a victory for him and also for the european union. and finally, the daily mail also has a picture of president macron and his wife brigitte, but its main story is a reported shortage of available hrt drugs. so, let's begin. one big story of course is the french election. good evening to you both and thank you for coming back on. let's start with the daily telegraph as i mentioned as we could almost pick any paper but we will start there. interestingly the line they had picked out is i owe you, emmanuel macron premises france as he admits voters back to him only in order to keep marine le pen from power. what do you make of that? interesting first response from emmanuel macron, who has been pitted to win sort of a decisive victory in the second round of the french presidential election. it's interesting that his first response to that victory, which is the first, makes him the first sitting president to be reelected in more than 20 years, is to basically turn to the voters and say i owe you for this, thank you for lending me your support. and he is very frick about the fact that a lot of people who backed him in this round of the contest will have done so because they did not want marine le pen rid of them because they did want him. he has obviously him and marine le pen were both battling to pick up the votes that went to other parties in the first round. there it was quite certificate number of people who voted for the far left candidate and they were both scrapping for those votes, so he makes the point that he has to try and win the trust of these voters. and i think it's quite interesting that the telegraph picked out in this the comparison between these remarks and boris johnson's election in 2019 where he sort said something quite similar where he said he would repay, when the trust of the voters when they let him their votes to keepjeremy corbyn out of power and to deliver brexit. . , . , brexit. that is an interesting arallel brexit. that is an interesting parallel actually _ brexit. that is an interesting parallel actually and - brexit. that is an interesting parallel actually and actually j brexit. that is an interesting i parallel actually and actually in his speech afterwards, when he mentioned marine le pen's name, the crowd started building as if it was kind of a campaign rally and he made a point of telling them not to boot, say he is the president of all of france now. let's go to the front page of the times and david, their headline is on a similar theme but looks ahead to a difficult challenge with the headline emmanuel macron valves to reunite france after election when. that will not be easy. election when. that will not be eas . ., ., , election when. that will not be eas. ., ., , easy. no, it will not be easy and he is takin: easy. no, it will not be easy and he is taking charge _ easy. no, it will not be easy and he is taking charge again _ easy. no, it will not be easy and he is taking charge again of— easy. no, it will not be easy and he is taking charge again of a - easy. no, it will not be easy and he is taking charge again of a country i is taking charge again of a country that is_ is taking charge again of a country that is deeply divided, according to the election result that we have seen _ the election result that we have seen tonight. and it isjust worth pausing — seen tonight. and it isjust worth pausing to— seen tonight. and it isjust worth pausing to take stock as of course he has _ pausing to take stock as of course he has one — pausing to take stock as of course he has one with a noticeable mandate, but more than 40% of the voters _ mandate, but more than 40% of the voters tonight have backed the far—right party of marine le pen and that's— far—right party of marine le pen and that's a _ far—right party of marine le pen and that's a big — far—right party of marine le pen and that's a big jump on the last result in 2017 _ that's a big jump on the last result in 2017 where i think it was an 8% his point— in 2017 where i think it was an 8% his point increase and of course that vote — his point increase and of course that vote for the far right has increased _ that vote for the far right has increased steadily over time. so if anyone _ increased steadily over time. so if anyone thought that the sorta populist — anyone thought that the sorta populist far right was given the sorta _ populist far right was given the sorta populist far right was given away, _ sorta populist far right was given away, that clearly is not the case and bring — away, that clearly is not the case and bring it— away, that clearly is not the case and bring it further forward, the assembly— and bring it further forward, the assembly elections are in june. and bring it further forward, the assembly elections are injune. and emmanuet— assembly elections are injune. and emmanuel macron's party were to try and find — emmanuel macron's party were to try and find some way to find a consensus between the far left and the far— consensus between the far left and the far right to try and find some mandate — the far right to try and find some mandate to govern because he will find it _ mandate to govern because he will find it actually difficult, marine le pen — find it actually difficult, marine le pen say tonight that she and the sort of— le pen say tonight that she and the sort of fight starts here for those elections — sort of fight starts here for those elections. and there is a risk that despite _ elections. and there is a risk that despite winning again and becoming argue _ despite winning again and becoming argue with the most powerful leader in europe, _ argue with the most powerful leader in europe, someone who is committed to the _ in europe, someone who is committed to the eu _ in europe, someone who is committed to the eu project and there will of been a _ to the eu project and there will of been a huge amount of relief in brussels — been a huge amount of relief in brussels and other european capitals tonight, _ brussels and other european capitals tonight, there is a risk that unless he can— tonight, there is a risk that unless he can secure some kind of mandate and find _ he can secure some kind of mandate and find a _ he can secure some kind of mandate and find a way through in those assembly— and find a way through in those assembly elections in june, and find a way through in those assembly elections injune, then he could _ assembly elections injune, then he could become really bogged down in his second _ could become really bogged down in his second term. let�*s could become really bogged down in his second term.— his second term. let's go to the front page _ his second term. let's go to the front page of — his second term. let's go to the front page of the _ his second term. let's go to the front page of the guardian - his second term. let's go to the front page of the guardian and i front page of the guardian and before you move on from the story i want to reflect the international dimension here. emmanuel macron pledges unity after he fends off marine le pen threat is the headline but interestingly their first sub headline is european leaders hail the french president for a second term as i did not read that very well but we get the idea that he has been billeted and that does not happen very often but the eu responses interesting.- happen very often but the eu responses interesting. yes, so eur0pean _ responses interesting. yes, so european leaders _ responses interesting. yes, so european leaders will - responses interesting. yes, so european leaders will honestly responses interesting. yes, so i european leaders will honestly be breathing a big sigh of relief tonight. emmanuel macron is one of the most in france is one of the most significant forces in the european union. emmanuel macron is a pro—eu candidate and a victory for marine le pen would have been an extraordinary moment for many reasons, but in the context of the european union, it would have been a huge shift from the kind of politics that emmanuel macron is advancing. marine le pen is a validly you're a sceptic and also is sceptical about nato and a lot of papers include in the guardian cast this as a sort of and for european security particularly in the context of the war in ukraine.— particularly in the context of the war in ukraine. exactly that. kind of a continuity — war in ukraine. exactly that. kind of a continuity with _ war in ukraine. exactly that. kind of a continuity with regards - war in ukraine. exactly that. kind of a continuity with regards to - of a continuity with regards to foreign policy. can we stay with un the front page of the guardian and the front page of the guardian and the story on the right—hand side of the story on the right—hand side of the page, the second story, furey etzler angela rayner uses her body to distract prime minister as it is been rambling for couple of days now. , , ., ., ., , now. this is extraordinary. there has been a _ now. this is extraordinary. there has been a huge _ now. this is extraordinary. there has been a huge backlash - now. this is extraordinary. there has been a huge backlash to - now. this is extraordinary. there has been a huge backlash to a i now. this is extraordinary. there - has been a huge backlash to a report in the mail on sunday that some anonymous conservative mps have been floating that angela rayner had tried to distract borisjohnson during prime minister's questions about crossing and uncrossing her legs, which they compared in a frankly as she described it as a perverted smear, comparing her to sharon stone in the film basic instinct, which isjust an absolutely extraordinary thing to say. there has been a huge backlash about this and angela rayner came out and condemned as sort of a wildlife and borisjohnson tweeted earlier that he did not in disagreed with angela rayner on many things in politics but he thought it was appalling and it did not come from him, condemned to outright. so, it's a very interesting thing because it also in the story they make reference to the original story and the fact that compare angela rayner and borisjohnson's backgrounds anonymously borisjohnson is well known to have been educated at eton couege known to have been educated at eton college went to oxford university and they draw on the comparison between his experience in learning and debating in the oxford union and her background where she left school at 16 and was a single teenage mother and worked as a carer. so there is a lot of christmas will about the kind of snobbery and class criticism in that particular really because angela rayner is well regarded as a very strong debater. so it's a very strange story.- so it's a very strange story. really from ou so it's a very strange story. really from you on _ so it's a very strange story. really from you on this, _ so it's a very strange story. really from you on this, does _ so it's a very strange story. really from you on this, does raise - so it's a very strange story. really from you on this, does raise an i from you on this, does raise an eyebrow when he read it and what did you make of the reaction to it? it just looks like an appalling misjudgment by the mail a sunday on this story~ _ misjudgment by the mail a sunday on this story. what happens next is that caroline nokes, who is the chair— that caroline nokes, who is the chair of— that caroline nokes, who is the chair of the women's inequalities committee in parliament, has asked the speaker to examine whether the mail us— the speaker to examine whether the mail us nate journalist who wrote this should have his pastor move. i don't _ this should have his pastor move. i don't know— this should have his pastor move. i don't know what the process they were _ don't know what the process they were exactly or what might happen next but _ were exactly or what might happen next but it's clearly because a huge backlash _ next but it's clearly because a huge backlash with mps and parliamentarians from all sides coming — parliamentarians from all sides coming together to condemn the story~ _ coming together to condemn the story~ and — coming together to condemn the story. and also as she was saying there. _ story. and also as she was saying there. the — story. and also as she was saying there, the interesting thing of course — there, the interesting thing of course is _ there, the interesting thing of course is angela rayner when she has stood _ course is angela rayner when she has stood in _ course is angela rayner when she has stood in pm _ course is angela rayner when she has stood in pm cues for the labour leader— stood in pm cues for the labour leader has— stood in pm cues for the labour leader has won quite a lot of credit for how— leader has won quite a lot of credit for how she — leader has won quite a lot of credit for how she has performed with many actually— for how she has performed with many actually saying that maybe keir starnfer — actually saying that maybe keir starmer has nervously looked at how she performs in the house as she fights— she performs in the house as she fights to — she performs in the house as she fights to in — she performs in the house as she fights to in many ways i don't like this will— fights to in many ways i don't like this will go away quickly. let�*s fights to in many ways i don't like this will go away quickly.- this will go away quickly. let's go to the front _ this will go away quickly. let's go to the front page _ this will go away quickly. let's go to the front page of— this will go away quickly. let's go to the front page of the _ this will go away quickly. let's go to the front page of the times . this will go away quickly. let's go | to the front page of the times and again a story on the right—hand side as we zoom in, and not sounding like great news for the prime minister here. the headline the suit great rapport is so damning borisjohnson will have to quit. can you explain this to us was met so the party gate story will not go away for boris johnson so this is a very interesting bit of briefing that the times have gotten hold of and so sue gray who many rural recall is a senior whitehall civil servant who was tasked with doing an investigation into the reports about lockdown and parties in dentistry and whitehall during the pandemic and whitehall during the pandemic and she was originally supposed to be the person doing the report when the police originally said they would not investigate. and the police originally said they would not investigate. and when the olice to would not investigate. and when the police to come _ would not investigate. and when the police to come out _ would not investigate. and when the police to come out in _ would not investigate. and when the police to come out in january - would not investigate. and when the police to come out in january and - police to come out injanuary and say actually we are going to look at these parties and we will know now that fines be given out by the police, sue gray put her report on hold and let scotland yard finish their investigation. and she is not going to publish until that is completed. but her interim report was quite critical. it was very short but in it she condemned the kata failure of leadership in downing street that allowed these events to take place and the times is saying that her report, or for poor is going to be so excoriating that boris johnson poor is going to be so excoriating that borisjohnson will be put in a position where he may feel he has no choice but to resign. because it will not only criticise the culture that was allowed to build under his leadership but also critically his own attendance at these parties. what do you make of it? i recall that when the lie was going around that when the lie was going around that it borisjohnson was fined and was found to have broken the law, he would have to go. and that did not happen so what do you make of this? we thought about this for quite a long time. sniffing about the story in the _ long time. sniffing about the story in the times is that over the last few months when party gate has been raging, _ few months when party gate has been raging, we _ few months when party gate has been raging, we have mostly been hearing from the _ raging, we have mostly been hearing from the same sorts of conservative mps, _ from the same sorts of conservative mps. often — from the same sorts of conservative mps, often well— known critics of boris _ mps, often well— known critics of boris johnson, mps, often well— known critics of borisjohnson, people who have already— borisjohnson, people who have already sort of copper indigo like tobias _ already sort of copper indigo like tobias ellwood and the like. but the vast majority of conservative backbenchers come if you speak to them _ backbenchers come if you speak to them privately, they will say i quite — them privately, they will say i quite like _ them privately, they will say i quite like to wait and see everything. and we heard this in the debate _ everything. and we heard this in the debate last— everything. and we heard this in the debate last week in the house. on the privilege committee investigation. a lot of them are saying — investigation. a lot of them are saying they still want to see everything, the met inquiry completed in the sue gray report published in full before making a call on _ published in full before making a call on what to do about boris johnson — call on what to do about boris johnson so i think the fact that this briefing and actually could be really _ this briefing and actually could be really excoriating, that can be quite — really excoriating, that can be quite significant. in really excoriating, that can be quite significant.— really excoriating, that can be quite significant. in a similar kind of line and _ quite significant. in a similar kind of line and if— quite significant. in a similar kind of line and if you _ quite significant. in a similar kind of line and if you could _ quite significant. in a similar kind of line and if you could talk- quite significant. in a similar kind of line and if you could talk her. of line and if you could talk her through this because it is linked and the headline is to wait rebels join forces to oust prime minister. so the i is digging into the kata manoeuvring about this. and they make the point that is looking to be a bit more organised this time around. you could see that last week when the debates were happening in parliament about one of the prime minister should be referred to the privileges committee for an investigation into whether he misled parliament with what he said about party gate, which was originally he claimed no rules being broken, which we know now is not the case because he has received a fine from the met police for at least one event and potentially there could be more. and that many fines have been handed out. so, you can see people like steve baker, who is sort of a very prominent backbencher who played a key role in a lot of brexit fighting and was instrumental in kind of a lot of those backbench organisers coming out and saying this is... we cannot thwart the prime minister any more if that is a kind of a sign of the service with and also you are starting to hear more organisation around behind the scenes which could be a problem. around behind the scenes which could be a problem-— be a problem. afraid we are out of time to to — be a problem. afraid we are out of time to to jump — be a problem. afraid we are out of time to to jump in _ be a problem. afraid we are out of time to to jump in but _ be a problem. afraid we are out of time to to jump in but apologies . be a problem. afraid we are out of l time to to jump in but apologies and thank you both very much for talking us through that stuff across a lot of the papers. thank you for that. that's it for the papers this hour. next on bbc news, it's the film review.

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