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in the uk, ministers reveal the one—way ticket to rwanda they say will deter illegal immigration. with record numbers now crossing the channel, borisjohnson says the scheme is part of the plan to take back control of immigration. this innovative approach, driven by our shared humanitarian impulse and it made possible by brexit freedoms will provide safe and legal roots for asylum while disrupting the business model of the gangs. this is where claimants will stay in the rwandan capital — even those who make refugee status will have to settle in the country. human rights groups called it inhumane. here's the leader of the opposition. it will cost billions of pounds and reflect a prime minister who hasn't no grip and no answers to the questions that need answering. find questions that need answering. and elon musk offers to buy twitter and says he is the right person to unlock the platform's potential. welcome to the programme. we start in ukraine, where it's been 50 days since russia's invasion. a lot has happened in those 50 days, and in a moment we'll look at that, and at what the latest on the ground is. but first, i want to show you this interview — our correspondent clive myrie sat down with ukraine's president, volodymyr zelensky, in kyiv. he said european countries that continue to buy russian oil are earning their money in other people's blood. president zelensky also urged western countries to send more military aid to help his troops, let's have a listen. mr president, clive myrie, a pleasure to meet you, good to see you... for the entirety of the war, volodymyr zelensky has called this heavily fortified building home in the centre of kyiv. and how difficult has it been for you to be here through all this, without your family? it is myjob. i have to do it, and it is difficult without family to be anywhere. his wife and children are safe at an undisclosed location. his companions here, heavily armed troops, sandbags and minds. at the start of the war, they walked around in the darkness here, afraid of russian shelling. to victory, i hope so. as we enter what is labelled the situation room, the president gets a text. from macron. oh, it is emmanuel macron? he phoned me. we have connections, that is it! he has dropped you a message, i can see it! just tried to reach you, my friend — when you have some time! so we are holding up mr macron! i can see the +33, that is paris. that is true! a few minutes later, he returns. his preoccupation — a renewed military onslaught about to begin in the east. are you getting the right weapons you need from the west? translation: we need weapons today so we can fight, _ we cannot wait until some country decides to give or sell us weapons. some have still not decided on this, and we cannot wait for two or three weeks or a month. the united states, the united kingdom and some european countries are helping, but we need it sooner, we need it now. is it enough? we don't think so. the priority word is sooner, the priority word is quickly, the priority word is now. he is a president who has been cut off from his people, a citizenry suffering unimaginable horrors at the hands of a ruthless adversary. he is full of hate, he says, for russia's troops and their leaders, gradually limiting the scope for peace talks. how do you sit across the table to try and stop the war? how do you do that? putin is, in this process, closing the possibilities. bucha, mariupol. so i don't have, you know, it is not about me, it is more about russia. they will not have so many chances, in the long period, to speak with us. and what of those other countries are still selling billions to russia in oil and gas revenues? translation: we don't understand how you can | make money out of blood. unfortunately some european countries have done this. before the war began i spoke to chancellor angela merkel and said if a full—scale invasion of ukraine happens, they will go further into poland and after that they will be on the border with germany. if that happened, would you say to your people, it's fine, it is just business? how do you maintain hope in the future given everything that has happened? it's not hope, it is certainty. that you will win? yes, of course. mr president, thank you. thank you so much. a man from london from the islamic state group has been found guilty of all charges against him. he was accused of being part of the notorious so—called beatles cell, nicknamed by the captives due to their english accents. our correspondent has been following the trial in virginia and warning you may find some images distressing. it has been nearly a since the world sought shocking videos of journalists and aid workers being beheaded in syria and now el shafee elsheikh will pay for his crimes. he has been found guilty of being part of a trio who kidnapped and killed many hostages. —— since the world saw shocking videos. among them are four americans. saw shocking videos. among them are fouramericans. he saw shocking videos. among them are four americans. he also conspired in the death of two britons. none of their bodies were ever found. david's brother mike says he will never forget the moment he david's brother mike says he will neverforget the moment he heard of his death. i never forget the moment he heard of his death. ., ., ~' , never forget the moment he heard of his death. ., ., ~ , �*, never forget the moment he heard of his death. , �*, ., , his death. i took my mum's hands... and told her— his death. i took my mum's hands... and told her her— his death. i took my mum's hands... and told her her son _ his death. i took my mum's hands... and told her her son could _ his death. i took my mum's hands... and told her her son could not - his death. i took my mum's hands... and told her her son could not be - and told her her son could not be hurt any more. that was truly the worst night of my life. the families had to relive _ worst night of my life. the families had to relive the _ worst night of my life. the families had to relive the nightmare - worst night of my life. the families had to relive the nightmare as - worst night of my life. the familiesj had to relive the nightmare as they gaveit had to relive the nightmare as they gave it detail evidence in court. one of that worked on the stand as she read out ransom e—mails from the jihadists saying they wanted millions for her daughter be released. michael said the video of his brother's execution is burned into his brain. former hostages who survived described the gang as a sadist who electrocuted, water boarded and stop them. one said he tried to kill himself to escape. the defence argued this was a case of mistaken identity. they described el shafee elsheikh as a simple ois fighter, but is not one of the so—called beatles who were always fully must around hostages, but prosecutors used el shafee elsheikh�*s own interviews after he was captured to prove he knew the hostages. —— always fully masked. they asked me to get e—mails and details _ they asked me to get e—mails and details about their family contacts, anything _ details about their family contacts, anything that is relevant like that and pass— anything that is relevant like that and pass them on to him. they said it roved and pass them on to him. they said it proved he — and pass them on to him. they said it proved he knowingly _ and pass them on to him. they said it proved he knowingly took- and pass them on to him. they said it proved he knowingly took part - and pass them on to him. they said it proved he knowingly took part in | it proved he knowingly took part in the hostagetaking which led to the deaths. el shafee elsheikh is the last man from the so—called beatles to face a reckoning. another was killed by a drone strike in 2015, another was brought to the us with el shafee elsheikh but pleaded guilty last year. as part of his plea deal, he met some of the families. i plea deal, he met some of the families. . , plea deal, he met some of the families. ., , ., , ., ., , families. i was nervous to go, but jim would families. i was nervous to go, but jim would have — families. i was nervous to go, but jim would have wanted _ families. i was nervous to go, but jim would have wanted me - families. i was nervous to go, but jim would have wanted me to - families. i was nervous to go, but jim would have wanted me to go. | families. i was nervous to go, but - jim would have wanted me to go. are ou able jim would have wanted me to go. are you able to forgive? he _ jim would have wanted me to go. are you able to forgive? he did _ jim would have wanted me to go. are you able to forgive? he did not - you able to forgive? he did not asked me _ you able to forgive? he did not asked me to — you able to forgive? he did not asked me to forgive _ you able to forgive? he did not asked me to forgive him, - you able to forgive? he did not asked me to forgive him, but l you able to forgive? he did not asked me to forgive him, but if you able to forgive? he did not. asked me to forgive him, but if he doesin asked me to forgive him, but if he does in the future, i must try to forgive him. does in the future, i must try to forgive him-— does in the future, i must try to for: ive him. ., , ., , forgive him. the families have been in court every _ forgive him. the families have been in court every day — forgive him. the families have been in court every day supporting - forgive him. the families have been in court every day supporting each | in court every day supporting each other while sitting just yards away from the man who played a role in the deaths of their loved ones. this verdict has given them a sense of justice, but it has also allowed america to prove that it can hold international terrorists to account. el shafee elsheikh will be sentenced at a later date, but as part of the us uk extradition deal to get him here in the first place, he will not face the death penalty. we can speak to nomia now and give us a sense of what it was like in that courtroom today? this us a sense of what it was like in that courtroom today?- us a sense of what it was like in that courtroom today? this is a long road to justice _ that courtroom today? this is a long road to justice for _ that courtroom today? this is a long road to justice for the _ that courtroom today? this is a long road to justice for the families - that courtroom today? this is a long road to justice for the families and l road to justice for the families and when the verdict was delivered, the families quietly sobbed and hugged each other. they have been rocks at each other. they have been rocks at each other. they have been rocks at each other. i'm joined now by diane, james' mother, and you saw her in the report there. tell me how you felt in that verdict came three. relief and tremendous sense of gratitude. i feel like we are seeing justice _ gratitude. i feel like we are seeing justice has— gratitude. i feel like we are seeing justice has prevailed today, that elsheikh — justice has prevailed today, that elsheikh received a very fair trial, legal— elsheikh received a very fair trial, legal counsel, protection, orthat legal counsel, protection, or that he legal counsel, protection, orthat he needed, all the opposite of what was allotted to our citizens and british— was allotted to our citizens and british citizens, so this is a big day todav _ british citizens, so this is a big day today. a big day for accountability. we will never stop hostagetaking without accountability and justice. hostagetaking without accountability and 'ustice. ~ ., hostagetaking without accountability and 'ustice. ., ~ and justice. what was it like relivinu and justice. what was it like reliving it — and justice. what was it like reliving it all? _ and justice. what was it like reliving it all? because - and justice. what was it like - reliving it all? because obviously you gave evidence, you heard evidence about your son. it you gave evidence, you heard evidence about your son. it was very difficult, evidence about your son. it was very difficult. and — evidence about your son. it was very difficult. and i _ evidence about your son. it was very difficult, and i think— evidence about your son. it was very difficult, and i think it _ evidence about your son. it was very difficult, and i think it was _ difficult, and i think it was particularly difficult hearing at the other families' stories, equally as horrific— the other families' stories, equally as horrific as our own. i have lived our story, — as horrific as our own. i have lived our story, lrut— as horrific as our own. i have lived our story, but to hear what the other— our story, but to hear what the other families have been through, it is so heartbreaking. what other families have been through, it is so heartbreaking.— other families have been through, it is so heartbreaking. what lessons do ou think is so heartbreaking. what lessons do you think have _ is so heartbreaking. what lessons do you think have been _ is so heartbreaking. what lessons do you think have been learnt _ is so heartbreaking. what lessons do you think have been learnt for- is so heartbreaking. what lessons do you think have been learnt for the i you think have been learnt for the us and the uk are moving forward? what was interesting, we saw former hostages who had managed to survive giving evidence. that hostages who had managed to survive giving evidence-— giving evidence. that occurs their countries chose _ giving evidence. that occurs their countries chose it _ giving evidence. that occurs their countries chose it to _ giving evidence. that occurs their countries chose it to negotiate i giving evidence. that occurs their i countries chose it to negotiate with the captors and to me, that is the lesson _ the captors and to me, that is the lesson that— the captors and to me, that is the lesson. that if we americans and british— lesson. that if we americans and british choose not to negotiate with captors, _ british choose not to negotiate with captors, our citizens are gone. the art ument captors, our citizens are gone. the argument has _ captors, our citizens are gone. tue: argument has a captors, our citizens are gone. t'te: argument has a ways been captors, our citizens are gone. tte: argument has a ways been we do not negotiate with terrorists once you start meeting ransom demands, you legitimise their tactics.— legitimise their tactics. nobody wants to pay — legitimise their tactics. nobody wants to pay ransom _ legitimise their tactics. nobody wants to pay ransom to - legitimise their tactics. nobody i wants to pay ransom to terrorists. that wants to pay ransom to terrorists. t hat is — wants to pay ransom to terrorists. that is making it to black—and—white an issue _ that is making it to black—and—white an issue it— that is making it to black—and—white an issue it is— that is making it to black—and—white an issue. it is much more of a grey issue _ an issue. it is much more of a grey issue i_ an issue. it is much more of a grey issue i thing — an issue. it is much more of a grey issue. i thing we have to be shrewd enough _ issue. i thing we have to be shrewd enough to— issue. i thing we have to be shrewd enough to find ways to interact with any chapter and find ways around it so that _ any chapter and find ways around it so that we — any chapter and find ways around it so that we can give them save face and give _ so that we can give them save face and give our— so that we can give them save face and give our people back, but at the same _ and give our people back, but at the same time, — and give our people back, but at the same time, obviously we do not want to support _ same time, obviously we do not want to support terrorist activities. that— to support terrorist activities. that is— to support terrorist activities. that is not what this is about. it is about— that is not what this is about. it is about the _ that is not what this is about. it is about the willingness to negotiate and engage with captors. you told _ negotiate and engage with captors. you told me earlier that you have met with one of the other members of the so—called isis beatles and that is part of his plea deal, to meet with the families. would you want to meet with elsheikh? t do with the families. would you want to meet with elsheikh?— meet with elsheikh? i do not know. it meet with elsheikh? i do not know. it depends- — meet with elsheikh? i do not know. it depends- on _ meet with elsheikh? i do not know. it depends. on him. _ meet with elsheikh? i do not know. it depends. on him. if— meet with elsheikh? i do not know. it depends. on him. if he _ meet with elsheikh? i do not know. it depends. on him. if he does i meet with elsheikh? i do not know. it depends. on him. if he does not| it depends. on him. if he does not want _ it depends. on him. if he does not want to, _ it depends. on him. if he does not want to, i— it depends. on him. if he does not want to, ido— it depends. on him. if he does not want to, i do not care to. do you know— want to, i do not care to. do you know what — want to, i do not care to. do you know what i— want to, i do not care to. do you know what i mean? but if there is an opening. _ know what i mean? but if there is an opening. as — know what i mean? but if there is an opening. as i — know what i mean? but if there is an opening, as i was with alexander, i am more _ opening, as i was with alexander, i am more than happy to. i thinkjames would _ am more than happy to. i thinkjames would want _ am more than happy to. i thinkjames would want is to come out to have the courage — would want is to come out to have the courage to face them and give them _ the courage to face them and give them the — the courage to face them and give them the benefit of the doubt and hear their— them the benefit of the doubt and hear their story. everyone lost in this, _ hear their story. everyone lost in this, sow — hear their story. everyone lost in this, so. - -_ hear their story. everyone lost in this, so... ., ,, ., , ., ., this, so... talking ofjames, how do ou want this, so... talking ofjames, how do you want him _ this, so... talking ofjames, how do you want him to _ this, so... talking ofjames, how do you want him to be _ this, so... talking ofjames, how do you want him to be remembered? l this, so... talking ofjames, how do you want him to be remembered? i | you want him to be remembered? i just want him to be remembered for the brave. _ just want him to be remembered for the brave, committed, compassionate young— the brave, committed, compassionate young american he was and i pray that he _ young american he was and i pray that he can — young american he was and i pray that he can inspire other journalists and young americans to be people — journalists and young americans to be people of moral courage. he aspired — be people of moral courage. he aspired to — be people of moral courage. he aspired to be a man of moral courage. _ aspired to be a man of moral courage, so ijust pray that our country— courage, so ijust pray that our country needs more moral courage and we need _ country needs more moral courage and we need to— country needs more moral courage and we need to be able to stand up for the best— we need to be able to stand up for the best of— we need to be able to stand up for the best of what we are founded on. thank— the best of what we are founded on. thank you _ the best of what we are founded on. thank you so much.— thank you so much. thank you for our thank you so much. thank you for your time- — thank you so much. thank you for your time. diane _ thank you so much. thank you for your time. diane there, _ thank you so much. thank you for your time. diane there, the i thank you so much. thank you for. your time. diane there, the mother of james foley, _ your time. diane there, the mother of james foley, giving _ your time. diane there, the mother ofjames foley, giving her- your time. diane there, the mother of james foley, giving her reaction| ofjames foley, giving her reaction and we spoke to her other family members as well who are so relieved that this verdict has come through, that this verdict has come through, that they have finally got a sense of justice for that they have finally got a sense ofjustice for their that they have finally got a sense of justice for their loved ones. that they have finally got a sense ofjustice for their loved ones. as i mentioned them in the report, their loved ones have never been found, but this has given them some sense of closure moving forward. nomia, thank you very much. let's turn to the uk and the government's new immigration plans, which will see some asylum seekers arriving in britain relocated to rwanda. the government says it will deter illegal arrivals and stop people smuggling. but it's been met with criticism from human rights groups. the home secretary, priti patel, was in rwanda earlier to sign the deal — this was that moment. and this is what she had to say afterwards. we have agreed that people who enter the uk illegally will be considered for relocation to rwanda to have their asylum claims decided and those who are resettled will be given the support, including up to five years of training with the help of integration, accommodation, health care, so that they can resettle and thrive. here's what we know about the scheme. it focuses on single men and women arriving on boats or lorries. so it doesn't apply to children and families. and it'll apply to those arrived, or arriving, from the start of this year. people would be sent to rwanda to undergo the asylum process there and if successful, would get long—term accommodation in rwanda. that means that even if someone is successful in their application, they wouldn't get to reside in the uk. more now from the uk prime minister. this innovative approach driven by our shared humanitarian impulse and made possible by brexit freedoms will provide safe and legal routes that asylum while disrupting the business model of the gangs. let's take a closer look at some of the numbers. have a look at this graph. it shows the number of people crossing the channel each year. the red line represents last year and it shows a big increase. in 2021, well over 28,000 people are known to have crossed in small boats. that's up from around 8,000 in 2020. we also know that around 600 people made the crossing on wednesday alone. and that number is expected to go up. these pictures are from dover — they show people arriving today. our correspondent simonjones is there. dover is of course at the sharp end of the immigration debate and speaking to people in the town this morning, there does seem to be a consensus that something needs to be done to stop people risking their lives crossing the channel in this way, but no consensus about whether sending people 4000 miles from here to rwanda is the answer. in many ways, today has been business as usual in the channel. from here on the white cliffs it is incredibly calm overlooking the sea. we have seen several boats being brought to shore by the border force and the rnli, potentially another 200 or so people today on top of the 600 people who arrived yesterday, but in other ways, things are very different out there today, because from today, the military have taken operational control in the channel from the border force. i think they are going to bring in more surveillance, there is going to be £50 million available for new equipment. one idea that has been abandoned though is the idea of trying to turn migrant boats back in the channel. it has considered it is simply too dangerous and critics say actually the government has a history of making big announcements that then never actually become reality. there's been plenty of political reaction — this was from the leader of the opposition. they are unworkable, they are extortionate, they are going to cost the taxpayers billions of pounds and theyjust reflect the taxpayers billions of pounds and they just reflect a the taxpayers billions of pounds and theyjust reflect a prime minister who has no grip, no answers to the questions that need answering and no shame and ijust think britain deserves better than this. our home editor mark easton is in rwanda — he has more on some of the logistical hurdles. the accommodation block we saw had accommodation for around 100 asylum seekers. now, obviously we know that there were 29,000 asylum seekers coming across the channel last year, so a tiny, tiny proportion of that. now, it is possible that this centre, they can process quite a few in the course of the year, so maybe we could push it up to, i don't know, 400, 500 going through that accommodation centre in a year, but still, £120 million is the deal. we do not know the length of time that the deal covers, but never the less it is just perhaps an inkling of the costs actually of achieving what the government wants to do. there's another element to this too — rwanda's human rights record. a recent us state department report describes "significant human rights issues" in the country. it lists a whole host of concerns, including "unlawful or arbitrary killings by the government, forced disappearance by the government" and "torture." those findings were echoed by the uk government just last year. in a speech at the un, the uk raised concerns about "continued restrictions to civil and political rights and media freedom" in rwanda. human rights watch has been investigating this — this is what they've found. what we as human rights watch and other international organisations have documented is the clear oppression in rwanda, not only of political dissidence when we have seen people extrajudicially killed, we are seeing torture, indefinite detention, so on and so forth, but we have also seen really stark violence against refugees. for example, a number of refugees were killed for merely speaking about and protesting about their conditions. and dozens of them were put in prison. so what we're talking about is not sending people to a place where they will be safe, we are talking about a place where there is clear documentation of human rights violations against individuals in rwanda, including refugees. let's talk to peter walsh from... thanks forjoining us. let me ask you first of all, do you think this is a good idea? tt you first of all, do you think this is a good idea?— you first of all, do you think this is a good idea? it is not for me to comment — is a good idea? it is not for me to comment on _ is a good idea? it is not for me to comment on government - is a good idea? it is not for me to comment on government policy, | is a good idea? it is not for me to i comment on government policy, but certainly it has been extremely controversial. the government will encounter substantial logistical challenges, the challenges of providing sufficient care for people who have often experienced trauma, and that has associated with it substantial financial cost and that was something that was learned by australia. one and a half billion australian dollars to house as few as 300 asylum seekers offshore. 800 times more expensive to do that than to process the claim on shore and by contrast, the uk asylum system cost now about one half billion pounds, that includes housing 56,000 asylum seekers in the uk, so there are the financial challenges as well. the uk government is soon to come up against. government is soon to come up atainst. �* ., , government is soon to come up atainst. �* .,, ., , ., against. and there has not been a lot of detail _ against. and there has not been a lot of detail on _ against. and there has not been a lot of detail on the _ against. and there has not been a lot of detail on the actual- against. and there has not been a lot of detail on the actual costing | lot of detail on the actual costing of all of this?— lot of detail on the actual costing of all of this? there has not. what we can be — of all of this? there has not. what we can be fairly — of all of this? there has not. what we can be fairly sure _ of all of this? there has not. what we can be fairly sure about - of all of this? there has not. what we can be fairly sure about is i of all of this? there has not. what we can be fairly sure about is the l we can be fairly sure about is the £120 million that has been pledged. that is not the whole story. not your exact what that includes or for how long, but we can suspect it probably does not include the quite substantial costs to move people there. there may be additional costs in setting up the infrastructure and that of course, getting the staff over there, the carrots, the psychologist, the medical staff, the immigration officials to process, this can lead to spiralling costs. —— the carers. this can lead to spiralling costs. -- the carers-— this can lead to spiralling costs. -- the carers. and people who do have a successful _ -- the carers. and people who do have a successful application, i -- the carers. and people who do | have a successful application, they are then told they will stay wonder. yes, so there is a question about how many people would wish to stay in rome israel had a similar scheme where it sent about 4000 eritrean and sudanese asylum seekers to rwanda and actually most left. they pursued asylum elsewhere. it is thought that perhaps just a few dozen actually stayed in rwanda. so in terms of the number of people that may fall under this category of people who potentially could be sent there. it is not looking like a lot, is it? ., ., ., , there. it is not looking like a lot, isit? ., ., ., ,,, ., is it? no, and that is because of the capacity _ is it? no, and that is because of the capacity of— is it? no, and that is because of the capacity of the _ is it? no, and that is because of the capacity of the facility, i is it? no, and that is because of the capacity of the facility, 100, j the capacity of the facility, 100, may be stretching to 300. last year we had 30,000 people which the uk via small boat which suggests the probability of people being sent to rwanda is a small and of course that raises the question of whether it is going to change, the decision—making of asylum seekers in calais who are thinking about making the trip. find thinking about making the trip. and that is what a lot of people who are criticising this scheme are saying today, they are saying this is not going to act as a deterrent, it will change the way that asylum seekers and particularly human traffickers operate. do you agree? potentially, but it will be — operate. do you agree? potentially, but it will be between _ operate. do you agree? potentially, but it will be between one, - operate. do you agree? potentially, but it will be between one, two, i operate. do you agree? potentially, but it will be between one, two, 3%| but it will be between one, two, 3% of people who cross via small boat sent to rwanda. that, for me, does not really represent a big deterrent effect, so it does raise questions about whether in practice this is likely to deter asylum seekers who we know are determined to reach the uk. i we know are determined to reach the uk. 4' ., ., , , ., we know are determined to reach the uk. «m, , uk. i know a big question, but potentially _ uk. i know a big question, but potentially what _ uk. i know a big question, but potentially what is _ uk. i know a big question, but potentially what is the - uk. i know a big question, but| potentially what is the answer? there are no easy answers, i am afraid. there is one policy solution which is attracting quite a lot of attention, quite popular among refugee ngos and that is actually to get rid of the system we have at present which is where to claim asylum in the uk, you have to be in the uk. it is not possible to claim asylum abroad. that leads to people taking these unauthorised and dangerous journeys, taking these unauthorised and dangerousjourneys, so taking these unauthorised and dangerous journeys, so one taking these unauthorised and dangerousjourneys, so one proposal has not received much enthusiasm is to allow people to claim asylum at uk embassies abroad.— to allow people to claim asylum at uk embassies abroad. interesting to have ount uk embassies abroad. interesting to have young the _ uk embassies abroad. interesting to have young the programme, - uk embassies abroad. interesting to have young the programme, thank l uk embassies abroad. interesting to i have young the programme, thank you so much. we will be back in a few minutes with more on outside source, stay with us. overall, a lot of dry weather this easter weekend. there is an east, west are split across the uk. for many, skies will be like this, not clear blue but some warm, sunny spells coming through. the further west you are, you will be closer to atlantic weather fronts trying to come in, so the cloudy skies here and the chance of seeing a little rain at times, whereas further to the east, you're close to high pressure. and are keeping these atlantic weather fronts from sweeping right across the uk and giving the driest, most settled weather, the warmest sunny spells in eastern areas. much of the weekend, the air from the south, attempt is above average but turning cool on easter monday. this is how things are looking for tonight and again it closer to atlantic weather fronts, the cloudy skies will be in western areas, little bit patchy rain here and there are quite messy and back across much of wales and south—west england by morning. elsewhere, chance of a few fog patches here and there, no trust exacted this weekend. tomorrow, cloudy skies for south—west england, wales, northern ireland, south of scotland, could see light rain or drizzle here and there, heaviershowers see light rain or drizzle here and there, heavier showers may push into northern ireland, could stay messy on the coast. through scotland and england the chance of a shower, vast majority will stay dry and warm day, 70 degrees in glasgow,. —— 17 degrees in glasgow. saturday, dry weather, when the cloud as they can you may get a shower and a weather front getting close at her northern ireland and the western isles, breezy conditions on the chance of some rain. there is a weatherfront has more success by easter sunday in coming into the uk rather than being held at bay to our west. whilst there are still some uncertainty about how far to the uk it is going to come, it does look as though it is most likely we will get some rain into northern ireland, parts of scotland, especially in the west on easter sunday that some of that rain may just easter sunday that some of that rain mayjust ranging towards parts of wales and the western side of england, where a steady head of that, you may get a shower but three central eastern parts of england, this is where we are mostly to continue with the warm, sunny spells. this system with some consistency with progress, looks like it will push in through to monday. monday, chance of a shower, not a fine weather, telling cooler and could be windy with some rain in northern scotland. hello, this is outside source. on day 50 of the russian invasion of ukraine, the bbc is told that the war is utterly pointless. thea;r ukraine, the bbc is told that the war is utterly pointless. they can destroy us. _ war is utterly pointless. they can destroy us, but _ war is utterly pointless. they can destroy us, but they _ war is utterly pointless. they can destroy us, but they will - war is utterly pointless. they can destroy us, but they will answer. j destroy us, but they will answer. they can kill us and they will also die. i can't understand for what. a former islamic state militant who was part of a group in syria known as the beatles is convicted of involvement in the murder of four american hostages. video emerges in the us of a police officer fatally shooting a black man as he lay face down on the ground. and elon musk offers to buy twitter, saying he has the right person to unlock the platform's potential. welcome back to the programme. let's get more on ukraine now. the search is on for evidence of war crimes in ukraine — like in bucha, near kyiv — recently under russian control. authorities says 400 bodies have been found there. this is bucha, today. it shows people queueing at a local government office, looking for any trace of their dead and missing relatives. and pictures like these — this is mariupol, it's an attack on a children's and maternity hospital — also bear witness to the brutality of russia's invasion. all of this evidence could one day be used in a possible war crimes trial. let's cross to our correspondent in kyiv, anna foster. i have seen myself the investigative work that is just beginning here in ukraine to really gather that vital evidence that will bring any potential perpetrators to justice. i am joined by the chief prosecutor at the international criminal court. you have been here for a few days. we were seeing pictures there over bucha. what have you witnessed in these towns around kyiv that have been under russian occupation? the ictures been under russian occupation? tte: pictures you have seen on tv are accurate, there is massive destruction of civilian places, apartment blocks, bridges and also this human caravan of people that are fleeing into poland and other neighbouring countries in fear of their lives, and of course i have seen bodies that have been dug up in bucha, behind st andrews church. we have seen so much trauma. it is our job to try to get to the bottom of this, why it took place, were any crimes committed and who was responsible. crimes committed and who was responsible-— crimes committed and who was responsible. have you seen any evidence of— responsible. have you seen any evidence of war _ responsible. have you seen any evidence of war crimes - responsible. have you seen any i evidence of war crimes committed by russian forces here? bill evidence of war crimes committed by russian forces here?— russian forces here? all sites have letal russian forces here? all sites have legal response _ russian forces here? all sites have legal response abilities _ russian forces here? all sites have legal response abilities in - russian forces here? all sites have legal response abilities in a - legal response abilities in a conflict, not to look away from these basic considerations of humanity that prohibit genocide, crimes against humanity or war crimes. certainly we have made a determination that there is reasonable grounds to believe that crimes within the jurisdiction of the court have been committed. we also have the referral from 42 states. thejob is to also have the referral from 42 states. the job is to get concrete evidence that will stand up to scrutiny that we can verify, we can forensically analyse, that can help inform us as to whether or not they are crimes and who is responsible. we can give that to the judges and they can decide if warrants are appropriate. they can decide if warrants are appropriate-— appropriate. what about the announcements _ appropriate. what about the announcements that - appropriate. what about the announcements that are i appropriate. what about the l announcements that are being appropriate. what about the - announcements that are being made already, joe biden calling this a genocide. is that helpful to your investigation or does it hinder it? politicians all over the world have greater latitude to describe issues instinctively or based upon information they have. as a prosecutor, i have to build a case based upon evidence and we have to first investigate incriminating and exculpatory evidence equally, and that will help us determine if criminal offences have been committed and, if so, which offence. it is a legal test and we need evidence to make those decisions. there is a generation of people around the world who have seen the icc only bring people to justice a long time after the crimes were committed. t5 long time after the crimes were committed-— long time after the crimes were committed. , ., ,., , ., committed. is that something you would agree _ committed. is that something you would agree with? _ committed. is that something you would agree with? i _ committed. is that something you would agree with? i think- would agree with? i think absolutely. there is a need for internationaljustice absolutely. there is a need for international justice to absolutely. there is a need for internationaljustice to move faster, to be more effective and to have an impact on people's lives. this law is not for the judges or the prosecutor in the courtroom in the hague, it affects people's lives around the world. we have to find ways to be more nimble, more effective and to show the law in action. i think we can. share effective and to show the law in action. i think we can.— action. i think we can. are you doin: action. i think we can. are you doing anything _ action. i think we can. are you doing anything meaningful i action. i think we can. are you doing anything meaningful to. action. i think we can. are you i doing anything meaningful to speed that process up? t doing anything meaningful to speed that process up?— that process up? i think we are. internally. _ that process up? i think we are. internally, we _ that process up? i think we are. internally, we are _ that process up? i think we are. internally, we are making i that process up? i think we are. i internally, we are making changes in terms of reorganisation. i started that reform from june, when i was sworn in. so those changes are taking place was not even with how we approach things, i think we need to start with low hanging fruit, we need to find evidence that is reliable and start building cases and be willing to go up if we think there is come of responsibility. we cannot be waiting for years because people rightfully say, what are you doing and are you relevant at all? if you identify individuals who have perpetrated war crimes here in ukraine, a country like russia, for example, does not have form in hiding those people over to go on trial. do you think there will be a meaningful conclusion to your investigation?— meaningful conclusion to your investigation? meaningful conclusion to your investitation? ., ., , ., investigation? none of us have the wisdom of cassandra, _ investigation? none of us have the wisdom of cassandra, and - investigation? none of us have the wisdom of cassandra, and that i investigation? none of us have the wisdom of cassandra, and that is l investigation? none of us have the wisdom of cassandra, and that is a great question. but what we have seen over many situations, there was a time before the london charter, where nobody thought the architects of national socialism and the major nazi war criminals would be brought to justice. nazi war criminals would be brought tojustice. people thought nazi war criminals would be brought to justice. people thought there was no way that others would see the inside of a courtroom. yet, with persistence, with stamina and hard work, we have seen thatjustice can be brought effectively into practice. but i think we also need to change our models of approach so we can work more effectively and more quickly. we can work more effectively and more quickly-— more quickly. what about international _ more quickly. what about international backing i more quickly. what about international backing for i more quickly. what about i international backing for this? more quickly. what about - international backing for this? the words and the platitudes are there, but you need countries around the world to assist in a tangible way, provide evidence. do you think they will cooperate with your investigation? 50 will cooperate with your investigation?— will cooperate with your investigation? will cooperate with your investitation? ., , investigation? so far, there is some encouraging — investigation? so far, there is some encouraging signs — investigation? so far, there is some encouraging signs will— investigation? so far, there is some encouraging signs will stop - investigation? so far, there is some encouraging signs will stop within i encouraging signs will stop within 48 out of my invitation that states are further matter to me and to the court, to allow an investigation to take place, we had 39 states. japan and north macedonia and chile in latin america followed. i think there is some support, but it requires focus and stamina and a willingness politically not to lose attention and move onto the next crisis when it occurs. if we have that focus, i believejustice crisis when it occurs. if we have that focus, i believe justice can crisis when it occurs. if we have that focus, i believejustice can be something that can be to delivered effectively. you something that can be to delivered effectivel . ., , ., effectively. you saw those queues of --eole in effectively. you saw those queues of people in itucha _ effectively. you saw those queues of people in bucha today _ effectively. you saw those queues of people in bucha today who _ effectively. you saw those queues of people in bucha today who want i effectively. you saw those queues of people in bucha today who want to l people in bucha today who want to give information, who are waiting for some kind ofjustice for their loved ones who have been killed. what would you say to them? t loved ones who have been killed. what would you say to them? i think two thins. what would you say to them? i think two things- on _ what would you say to them? i think two things- on a _ what would you say to them? i think two things. on a human _ what would you say to them? i think two things. on a human level, i what would you say to them? i thinkl two things. on a human level, people are not lying about losing their loved ones. their experiences are correct and our heart goes out to refugees around the world and here in ukraine that have enjoyed what none of us should have to endure. as a prosecutor of the icc, lease continue to show your faith and patience. it is not perfect, i will make mistakes, the office well, justice does everywhere, but we will try to effectively build cases so we get to the truth and, if get to that point, i have every confidence that the impartialjudges of the international court will analyse it and do theirjob properly as well. thank you forjoining me. russia says its most important ship in its black sea fleet has been seriously damaged. this is it. ukraine says they hit it with two missiles. that has not been confirmed. russia says a fire on board caused it to explode, but it is still afloat. the crew have been evacuated. the black sea navy supports russia's land offensives in ukraine, like mariupol, where they are trying to seize control. these are trying to seize control. these are pictures of the ship before the attack. you can see it firing missiles from on—board. it has a crew of around 500, as well as anti—ship and anti—aircraft missiles, torpedoes and guns. it has been an important part of russia's navy since the 1980s, and it still is. here is flood of putin on board a few weeks ago. let's say from jenny hill on what we have heard from the kremlin. moscow says that a fire broke out on board, which caused ammunition to catch fire and then explode. it has admitted that significant damage was done to the vessel, although they are now saying that the main missiles on board were not damaged. nevertheless, the russians say that the ship will be towed back to port. we are not sure which port, although it has been good at sevastopol previously. an investigation is going on into the cause of the fire, which moscow says has not been established. ukraine maintains it hit the ship with two neptune missiles. who is telling the truth? we can discuss this now. thank you forjoining us. how likely do you think that this is a self—inflicted accident, like the russians are maintaining? fits accident, like the russians are maintaining?— accident, like the russians are maintaining? accident, like the russians are maintainint? ~ , , , ., maintaining? as you say, this is all still unconfirmed _ maintaining? as you say, this is all still unconfirmed and _ maintaining? as you say, this is all still unconfirmed and it _ maintaining? as you say, this is all still unconfirmed and it is - maintaining? as you say, this is all still unconfirmed and it is a - maintaining? as you say, this is all still unconfirmed and it is a fast i still unconfirmed and it is a fast moving situation. we have seen a lot of conflicting information from both sides, as well as on social media. i'm sure analysts around the world will be frantically racing to establish what has happened. if it is an accident, is a russians claim, thatis is an accident, is a russians claim, that is a significant. it is certainly quite unusual during such a high profile situation like this. the russian navy is not without precedent of having incidents like this. it's larger ship had such a fire in 2019 while it was undergoing maintenance. we are seeing reports coming out suggesting that the vessel was 60 or 70 miles off the coast, well within the range of the anti—ship missiles in question, which the ukrainians have. there are suggestions that other russian vessels in the areas deployed further away from the ukrainian coast after the incident, which again could be consistent with a recognised threat from coastal based missile systems will stop if this is an accident, that is significant militarily but would speak to concerns with the equipment, the organisation, training and maintenance of the russian naval vessels. there are concerns about the hardware and so on. the ukrainians _ the hardware and so on. the ukrainians are _ the hardware and so on. the ukrainians are saying it was a missile strike, if that is true, what is the significant of that? fin what is the significant of that? on the military front, if this is indeed a ukrainian strike, and there are suggestions it was notjust using anti—ship weapons but also potentially unmanned aerial vehicles or drones to support reconnaissance and targeting, that would represent and targeting, that would represent a real psychological blow to russian forces. a commensurate boon to the morale of the ukrainian forces who are fighting for their country. it would also resent a new threat to the russian navy, which has been relatively successful in operating throughout the black sea. it would potentially cause them to pull their forces further from the coast, which in turn would have a knock—on effect on their ability to provide fire support to russian forces on land, as well as to potentially support landings towards odesa. it is quite significant in that sense. there is also a broader political and economic cost for russia, from seeing such a high—profile asset such as this struck, one or another. it has been good to get your input. thank you. let's move on to a police video of a white officer fatally shooting a black mountain the back of the head after a scuffle over a stun gun. i'm going to show you the video from the lead—up to the shooting. you may find some of the images in tim allman's report disturbing. grand rapids, michigan earlier this month. police stop a car being driven by 26—year—old patrick lyoya. the two men get out of their vehicles in what appears to be a fairly routine interaction, but that's when things start to go wrong. i'm stopping you. do you have a license? do you have a driver's license? do you speak english? yes. can i see your license? what does he want? the plate doesn't belong in this car? do you have a license or no? the officer repeatedly asks to see patrick lyoya's driving license, which he says is inside the car. but then he closes the door and appears to try and walk away. no, no, no. stop, stop, put your hand where i can see them... the policeman tries to stop him. there's a struggle, and mr lyoya runs off. he's caught and they both fall to the ground. they get back up again. the officer has pulled out his taser, which they then fight over. let go of the taser. at this point, according to police, the officer accidentally turned off his body camera. stop! by now, the passenger in patrick lyoya's car was filming the incident on his phone. then the police officer appears to shoot mr lyoya in the back of the head. in the last few minute, the lawyer representing the family spoke. this was unnecessary and unjustifiable. it was excessive use of fatal force. you see a police officer escalate a minor traffic stop into a deadly execution. let's talk tojohn stop into a deadly execution. let's talk to john southworth who stop into a deadly execution. let's talk tojohn southworth who is in washington. what are the police saying about what happened? well, the police have, as you would expect, and announced that there will be an investigation. they have not yet released the name of the officer who fired that shot. they say that, at the moment, the principal of innocent until proven guilty applies, and that they will only, as is normal protocol, release the name of that officer if the investigation results in charges being laid. now, already this incident, as you heard in that report, took place over a week ago, has prompted protests in grand rapids, people demanding that the name of that police officer be released. but obviously, having now released. but obviously, having now released the video, the police are saying they have done that in the interests of transparency, that has of course only fuelled the sense of outrage. you heard there from the attorney who has been involved in other similar cases where black or asian people have been shot by police officers in america, talking about this unnecessary, unjustified and excessive. but the police are saying that they have a process, a procedure and the investigation needs to be allowed to take its course. ~ ., ., ., ~ ., ., course. what more do we know about the victim? — course. what more do we know about the victim? he _ course. what more do we know about the victim? he is _ course. what more do we know about the victim? he is 26 _ course. what more do we know about the victim? he is 26 years _ course. what more do we know about the victim? he is 26 years old. i course. what more do we know about the victim? he is 26 years old. at i the victim? he is 26 years old. at that same — the victim? he is 26 years old. at that same press _ the victim? he is 26 years old. at that same press conference, i the victim? he is 26 years old. at i that same press conference, where you heard mr crump speaking, he was joined by his parents, his mother and father. obviously very emotional, crying through much of the speech. and his brothers and sisters as well. they claim as a family in 2014, immigrants from the democratic republic of congo. i think the focus here will be on the question of racialjustice and law enforcement. that is obviously front and centre of this case, where you have had a shooting of an unarmed black man by a white police officer. it will highlight that wider issue of gun violence forced the washington post has been keeping a tally of police fatalities over the past few years and already this year, 250 people in the united states have been shot dead by police officers in the line of duty. i think, once again, people are asking how what looked like a very routine, very minor police incident, this traffic stop, could have escalated into once again have put that very question of racialjustice and law enforcement at the heart of the national agenda again.- enforcement at the heart of the national agenda again. tesla boss elon musk has offered to buy twitter. mr musk said he would pay $54.20 a share for twitter, valuing the firm at $41 billion. he's currently the biggest twitter shareholder after it was revealed last week that he had a 9.2% share. twitter quickly offered elon musk a seat on its board on the condition that he not own more than 14.9% of the outstanding stock. he declined, instead polling his 80 million followers about changes they might want in twitter. in messages published in the filing, mr musk said, "it's a high price and your shareholders will love it", and that if his offer was rejected, he'd "reconsider my position as shareholder". here's michelle fleury. all eyes now turn to the board and how they respond. one of the challenges they face is that this offer values the company at above what they shares have been trading outcome are likely. the price offer is 38% higher than when mr musk�*s state was first unveiled publicly. it puts pressure on the board to come up with a reason to reject it. that doesn't mean necessarily that this is a done deal. a quick reminder of who elon musk is — he's the ceo of tesla, the electric carmaker, and space x, the space exploration business. he is the world's richest man, with a personalfortune of $273 billion, according to forbes. he is also a big supporter of free speech — he calls himelf a free—speech absolutist — and has been critical of twitter�*s policies. his many twitter polls include asking his more than 80 million followers whether they believed the platform adheres to the principle of free speech. in his letter to the twitter chairman he wrote... "i invested in twitter as i believe in its potential to be the platform for free speech, as a societal imperative. however, i now realise the company with neither thrive nor serve this societal imperative in its current form. twitter needs to be transformed as a private company." here's our business correspondent, taig enright, on that. he has said that, having been brought into the twitter family, as it were, he is not convinced it can achieve its full potential in its current ownership format, basically. it is a publicly listed company, answerable to stock market regulators and to its own shareholders. he thinks it needs to fulfil what he calls a global societal imperative to be a platform for free speech, and the only way to do it is to take it private, to delist it so it only has one shareholder, him. news of the potential takeover has divided opinion on twitter. followers of donald trump and other far—right political figures who've had their accounts suspended for violating twitter�*s content standards support the bid. others believe democracy needs more content moderation, not less. let's go live to san francisco to talk to the bbc�*s technology correspondent, james clayton, is in san francisco. what exactly do you think elon musk�*s plans offer twitter? t what exactly do you think elon musk's plans offer twitter? i think it is re musk's plans offer twitter? i think it is pretty clear— musk's plans offer twitter? i think it is pretty clear what _ musk's plans offer twitter? i think it is pretty clear what his - musk's plans offer twitter? i think it is pretty clear what his plans i it is pretty clear what his plans are. he thinks that twitter has over moderated. he says he believes in free speech, he wants the platform to essentially step back. if someone articulates some thing that is hateful or disinformation, he wants to leave that up. he says he is a free speech absolutist. that is a difference of opinion he has with twitter�*s ceo. that is the direction he wants to take it in. if he does by the company, he will absolutely be king of twitter, able to do whatever he wants, to feel like he has articulated absolutely power. it opens the door to donald trump, back on twitter. there are lots of potential ramifications for this potential ramifications for this potential move. twitter is contemplating this deal right now. we wait to see what their responses. i touched a little bit on what the response of the people on twitter has been. what have his 80 million followers being saying? tt is followers being saying? it is obviously — followers being saying? it is obviously a _ followers being saying? it is obviously a lot _ followers being saying? it is obviously a lot of _ followers being saying? tt 3 obviously a lot of people following him, so they say all sorts of things. there are lots of donald trump supporters who are very excited. from's own social media platform has tanked, it doesn't work. he would absolutely love to get onto twitter. it was always his platform of choice. if elon musk gets on, that will open the door for him. orthe gets on, that will open the door for him. or the moment, gets on, that will open the door for him. orthe moment, he gets on, that will open the door for him. or the moment, he is banned for life under the current chief executive. there are a lot of trump fancy were happy about this, but also democrats who are happy as well because there is this theory going on that the republicans are doing well because mr trump hasn't had a voice on twitter. it is almost bad for republican politics. it is better for them for republican politics. it is betterfor them if for republican politics. it is better for them if he for republican politics. it is betterfor them if he is silent, rather than tweeting controversial things. so all sorts of opinions on twitter and it is only the board that really knows what is going on. we have had nothing from them so far? ~ . �* we have had nothing from them so far? ~ ., �* ., ., far? we haven't heard from them so far. the far? we haven't heard from them so far- the chief _ far? we haven't heard from them so far. the chief executive _ far? we haven't heard from them so far. the chief executive of _ far? we haven't heard from them so far. the chief executive of twitter i far. the chief executive of twitter always sends a statement when something has been agreed or a statement has been confirmed. we wait to see what twitter says, but as michelle said, it is a reasonable deal, not a great deal. i can also imagine that the co—founder of twitter, who is also on the board, he believes in it passionately, do you want to put that in the hands of this renegade, divisive figure? t’m this renegade, divisive figure? i'm not convinced. thank you. that is it for now. i will be back in a few minutes, sojoin us that is it for now. i will be back in a few minutes, so join us then for more news. but, for now, goodbye. overall, a lot of dry weather this easter weekend. an east—west split across the uk, though. for many, the skies will be like this, not clear blue but sunny spells coming through. the further west you are, you are closer to weather fronts trying to climb in. further to the east, you are closer to high pressure, for now keeping the weather fronts from sweeping right across the uk, and giving the driest, most settled weather, the warmest sunny spells in eastern areas. for most of the weekend, the airfrom areas. for most of the weekend, the air from the south with temperatures above—average. overnight, the closer to atlantic weather fronts, the cloudy of the skies will be, with patchy rain here and there. elsewhere, clear spells, a chance for some fog patches here and there. no frost is expected this weekend. tomorrow, the cloudless skies in the west. you could see —— the cloudier skies. it could say misty around some of the coasts. elsewhere, through the rest of scotland and england, the chance of some sunshine. for saturday, again, a lot of dry weather, cloud, some sunny spells, you may get a kluwer —— may get a shower where the cloud is the can. breezy conditions at the chance of seeing some rain in the west. by easter sunday, the weather front has more success in coming into the uk. still some uncertainty about how far into the uk it will come, it does look as though it will be most likely we will get rain in northern ireland, western scotland, but some of that rain may move into parts of wales and the western side of england, where is ahead of that you may get a shower but through central and eastern parts of england, we are most likely to continue with warm sunny spells. this system, with some uncertainty about its progress, looks like it will push through on sunday night into monday. turning cooler, quite windy and some rain in northern scotland. hello, i'm maryam moshiri. this is outside source. on day 50 of russia's invasion of ukraine, the man leading the defence, president zelensky tells the bbc russia's were on his country is utterly pointless. they can't destroy us, they can kill us, and they will also die. i can't understand for what. is convicted and the involvement of the murder of four american hostages. in the uk, ministers reveal the one—way ticket to rwanda they say will deter illegal immigration. with record numbers now crossing the channel, borisjohnson says the scheme is part of the plan to take back control of immigration. this innovative approach, driven by our shared humanitarian impulse and it made possible by brexit freedoms will provide safe and legal routes for asylum while disrupting the business model of the gangs. media merges in the united states where police officer fatally shoots a black man as he lay face down on the ground. welcome to the programme. we start in ukraine, where it's been 50 days since russia's invasion. a lot has happened in those 50 days, and in a moment we'll look at that, and at what the latest on the ground is. but first, i want to show you this interview — our correspondent clive myrie sat down with ukraine's president, volodymyr zelensky, in kyiv. he said european countries that continue to buy russian oil are earning their money in other people's blood. president zelensky also urged western countries to send more military aid to help his troops, let's have a listen. this is what he told him. mr president, clive myrie, a pleasure to meet you, good to see you... for the entirety of the war, volodymyr zelensky has called this heavily fortified building home in the centre of kyiv. and how difficult has it been for you to be here through all this, without your family? it is myjob. i have to do it, and it is difficult without family to be anywhere. his wife and children are safe at an undisclosed location. his companions here, heavily armed troops, sandbags and mines. at the start of the war, they walked around in the darkness here, afraid of russian shelling. like our country, our country going through the dark to victory, i hope so. as we enter what is labelled the situation room, the president gets a text. from macron. oh, it is emmanuel macron? he phoned me. we have connections, that is it! he has dropped you a message, i can see it! just tried to reach you, my friend — when you have some time! so we are holding up mr macron! i can see the +33, that is paris. that is true! a few minutes later, he returns. his preoccupation — a renewed military onslaught about to begin in the east. are you getting the right weapons you need from the west? translation: we need weapons today so we can fight, _ we cannot wait until some country decides to give or sell us weapons. some have still not decided on this, and we cannot wait for two or three weeks or a month. the united states, the united kingdom and some european countries are helping, but we need it sooner, we need it now. is it enough? we don't think so. the priority word is sooner, the priority word is quickly, the priority word is now. he is a president who has been cut off from his people, a citizenry suffering unimaginable horrors at the hands of a ruthless adversary. he is full of hate, he says, for russia's troops and their leaders, gradually limiting the scope for peace talks. how do you sit across the table to try and stop the war? how do you do that? putin is, in this process, closing the possibilities. bucha, mariupol. so i don't have, you know, it is not about me, it is more about russia. they will not have so many chances, in the long period, to speak with us. and what of those other countries are still selling billions to russia in oil and gas revenues? translation: we don't understand how you can | make money out of blood. unfortunately some european countries have done this. before the war began i spoke to chancellor angela merkel and said if a full—scale invasion of ukraine happens, they will go further into poland and after that they will be on the border with germany. if that happened, would you say to your people, it's fine, it is just business? how do you maintain hope in the future given everything that has happened? it's not hope, it is certainty. that you will win? yes, of course. mr president, thank you. thank you so much. from ukraine to the united states. _ a man from london from the islamic state group has been found guilty of all charges against him. he was accused of being part of the notorious so—called beatles cell, nicknamed by the captives due to their english accents. our correspondent has been following the trial in virginia and warning you may find some images distressing. it has been nearly a decade since the world saw shocking videos ofjournalists and aid workers being beheaded in syria and now el shafee elsheikh will pay for his crimes. he has been found guilty of being part of a trio who kidnapped and killed many hostages. among them are four americans. he also conspired in the death of two britons. none of their bodies were everfound. david's brother mike says he will never forget the moment he heard of his death. i took my mum's hands... and told her her son could not be hurt any more. that was truly the worst night of my life. the families had to relive the nightmare as they gave detailed evidence in court. the mother wept on the stand as she read out ransom e—mails from the jihadists saying they wanted millions for her daughter be released. michael said the video of his brother's execution is burnt into his brain. former hostages who survived described the gang as a sadists who electrocuted, water boarded and stop them. one said he tried to kill himself to escape. the defence argued this was a case of mistaken identity. they described el shafee elsheikh as a simple is fighter, but is not one of the so—called beatles who were always fully masked around hostages, but prosecutors used el shafee elsheikh's own interviews after he was captured to prove he knew the hostages. they asked me to get e—mails and details about their family contacts, anything that is relevant like that and pass them on to him. they said it proved he knowingly took part in the hostagetaking which led to the deaths. el shafee elsheikh is the last man from the so—called beatles to face a reckoning. another was killed by a drone strike in 2015, another was brought to the us with el shafee elsheikh but pleaded guilty last year. as part of his plea deal, he met some of the families. well, i was nervous to go, butjim would have wanted me to go. are you able to forgive? he did not ask me to forgive him, but if he does in the future, i must try to forgive him. the families have been in court every day supporting each other while sitting just yards away from the man who played a role in the deaths of their loved ones. this verdict has given them a sense ofjustice, but it has also allowed america to prove that it can hold international terrorists to account. el shafee elsheikh will be sentenced at a later date, but as part of the us uk extradition deal to get him here in the first place, he will not face the death penalty. i spoke to nomia shortly after that verdict came in. this is a long road tojustice for the families. and when the verdict was delivered the families quietly sobbed and hugged each other. they have been rocks to each other and i'm joined now by diane foley. he saw diane in the report there. can you tell me how you felt when that verdict against there? just you tell me how you felt when that verdict against there?— verdict against there? just to relief and _ verdict against there? just to relief and a _ verdict against there? just to relief and a tremendous i verdict against there? just to l relief and a tremendous sense verdict against there? just to - relief and a tremendous sense of gratitude — relief and a tremendous sense of gratitude. i feel like relief and a tremendous sense of gratitude. ifeel like mercy relief and a tremendous sense of gratitude. i feel like mercy and justice — gratitude. i feel like mercy and justice has prevailed today. he received — justice has prevailed today. he received a very failed trial, legal counsel, — received a very failed trial, legal counsel, protection, allthat received a very failed trial, legal counsel, protection, all that he needed, — counsel, protection, all that he needed, the opposite of what was allotted _ needed, the opposite of what was allotted to our citizens and british citizens. _ allotted to our citizens and british citizens, so this is a big day today, _ citizens, so this is a big day today, a _ citizens, so this is a big day today, a big day for accountability. we will— today, a big day for accountability. we will never stop hostagetaking without _ we will never stop hostagetaking without accountability and justice. what _ without accountability and justice. what was — without accountability and justice. what was it like reliving it all? because obviously you gave evidence can be heard evidence about your son. it can be heard evidence about your son. ., , , can be heard evidence about your son. . , , , . can be heard evidence about your son. . , , ' . ~' son. it was very difficult. i think it was particularly _ son. it was very difficult. i think it was particularly difficult - son. it was very difficult. i think it was particularly difficult to . it was particularly difficult to hear — it was particularly difficult to hear the _ it was particularly difficult to hear the other families stories equally— hear the other families stories equally as poignant and horrific to our own — equally as poignant and horrific to our own. i've lived our story, but to hear— our own. i've lived our story, but to hear what _ our own. i've lived our story, but to hear what the other families have endured _ to hear what the other families have endured is _ to hear what the other families have endured isjust so heartbreaking, truty~ _ endured is 'ust so heartbreaking, trul . ~ . endured is 'ust so heartbreaking, trul. . , ., endured is 'ust so heartbreaking, trul. . , ~ endured is 'ust so heartbreaking, trul. . , truly. what lessons do you think can be learned for _ truly. what lessons do you think can be learned for the _ truly. what lessons do you think can be learned for the us, _ truly. what lessons do you think can be learned for the us, the _ truly. what lessons do you think can be learned for the us, the uk - truly. what lessons do you think can l be learned for the us, the uk moving forward? we saw former hostages who had managed to survive, giving evidence. because their countries chose to negotiate with the captors, and to me, that is the lesson. that if we, americans and british, choose not to negotiate with captors, our citizens are gone. the argument is always been we don't negotiate with terrorists, once you start meeting ransom demands can delegitimize their tactics. ransom demands can delegitimize their tactics— ransom demands can delegitimize theirtactics. . , ., ., , their tactics. ransom is one, nobody wants to pay — their tactics. ransom is one, nobody wants to pay ransom _ their tactics. ransom is one, nobody wants to pay ransom to _ their tactics. ransom is one, nobody wants to pay ransom to terrorists, i wants to pay ransom to terrorists, and even, that is not... that's making it to black—and—white an issue. it is much more of a gray issue. it is much more of a gray issue. it is much more of a gray issue. i think we have to be shrewd enough to find ways to interact with any captor and find ways around it so that we can give them a way to save face and give our people back, but at the same time, obviously, we don't want to supports terrorist activity. that is not but this is about to. it's about the willingness to negotiate and engage with captors. to negotiate and engage with ca tors. ., ., . to negotiate and engage with cators. ., ., . . captors. you told me earlier that ou have captors. you told me earlier that you have met — captors. you told me earlier that you have met with _ captors. you told me earlier that you have met with one _ captors. you told me earlier that you have met with one of- captors. you told me earlier that you have met with one of the - captors. you told me earlier that i you have met with one of the other members of the so—called isis beatles, and that is part of his plea deal to meet with the family is. what you want to meet? i don't know. it depends _ is. what you want to meet? i don't know. it depends on _ is. what you want to meet? i don't know. it depends on him. - is. what you want to meet? i don't know. it depends on him. if- is. what you want to meet? i don't know. it depends on him. if he - know. it depends on him. if he doesn't want to, i don't care to, do you know what i mean? but if there is an opening as there was, i am more than happy to. i thinkjim would want us, to be honest, he would want us, to be honest, he would want us, to be honest, he would want us to have the courage to face them and to give them the benefit of the doubt and hear their story, you know? everyone lost in this. . ~ story, you know? everyone lost in this. . ,, ., , ., ., this. talking of james, how do you want james _ this. talking of james, how do you want james to _ this. talking of james, how do you want james to be _ this. talking of james, how do you want james to be remembered? . this. talking of james, how do you want james to be remembered? i| this. talking ofjames, how do you . want james to be remembered? ijust want james to be remembered? i 'ust want james to be remembered? i 'ust want him to — want james to be remembered? i 'ust want him to be — want james to be remembered? inst want him to be remembered for the brave, committed, compassionate young american he was. and i pray that he can inspire other journalists and young americans to be people of moral courage. he aspired to be a man of moral courage, so ijust pray that our country needs more moral courage and we need to be able to stand up for the best of what we are founded on. thank you so much, diane.- the best of what we are founded on. thank you so much, diane. thank you for our thank you so much, diane. thank you for yourtime- — thank you so much, diane. thank you for your time. diane _ thank you so much, diane. thank you for your time. diane foley _ thank you so much, diane. thank you for your time. diane foley there, - for your time. diane foley there, the mother— for your time. diane foley there, the mother of _ for your time. diane foley there, the mother of james _ for your time. diane foley there, the mother of james foley - for your time. diane foley there, the mother of james foley giving for your time. diane foley there, - the mother of james foley giving her the mother ofjames foley giving her reaction, we are speaking to other family members as well who are just so relieved that this verdict has come through, that they have finally got a sense ofjustice for their loved ones, as i mentioned there in their reports, their loved ones have never been found, but this has given them some sense of closure moving forward. let's turn to the uk and a story that has been dominating headlines here — the government's new immigration plans, which will see some asylum seekers arriving in britain relocated to rwanda. the government says it will deter illegal arrivals and stop people smuggling. but it's been met with criticism from human rights groups. home secretary priti patel was in rwanda earlier to sign the deal — this was that moment. and this is what she had to say afterwards. we have agreed that people who enter the uk illegally will be considered for relocation to rwanda to have their asylum claims decided and those who are resettled will be given the support, including up to five years of training with the help of integration, accommodation, health care, so that they can resettle and thrive. here's what we know about the scheme. it focuses on single men and women arriving on boats or lorries. so it doesn't apply to children and families. and it'll apply to those arrived — or arriving — from the start of this year. people would be sent to rwanda to undergo the asylum process there and, if successful, would get long—term accommodation in rwanda. that means that even if someone is successful in their application, they wouldn't get to reside in the uk. more now from the british prime minister. this innovative approach driven by our shared humanitarian impulse and made possible by brexit freedoms will provide safe and legal routes for asylum while disrupting the business model of the gangs. let's take a closer look at some of the numbers. have a look at this graph. it shows the number of people crossing the channel each year. the red line represents last year — and it shows a big increase. in 2021, well over 28,000 people are known to have crossed in small boats. that's up from around 8,000 in 2020. we also know around 600 people made the crossing on wednesday alone. and that number is expected to go up. these pictures are from dover — they show people arriving today. our correspondent simonjones is there. dover is of course at the sharp end of the immigration debate and speaking to people in the town this morning, there does seem to be a consensus that something needs to be done to stop people risking their lives crossing the channel in this way, but no consensus about whether sending people 4000 miles from here to rwanda is the answer. in many ways, today has been business as usual in the channel. from here on the white cliffs it is incredibly calm overlooking the sea. we have seen several boats being brought to shore by the border force and the rnli, potentially another 200 or so people today on top of the 600 people who arrived yesterday, but in other ways, things are very different out there today, because from today, the military have taken operational control in the channel from the border force. i think they are going to bring in more surveillance, there is going to be £50 million available for new equipment. one idea that has been abandoned though is the idea of trying to turn migrant boats back in the channel. it has considered it is simply too dangerous and critics say actually the government has a history of making big announcements that then never actually become reality. there's been plenty of political reaction. this was from the leader of the opposition. they are unworkable, they are extortionate, they are going to cost the taxpayers billions of pounds, and theyjust reflect a prime minister who has got no grip, no answers to the questions that need answering and no shame and i think britain deserves better than this. there's another element to this too — rwanda's human rights record. a recent us state department report describes 'significant human rights issues�* in the country. it lists a whole host of concerns, including — unlawful or arbitrary killings by the government, forced disappearance by the government and torture. those findings were echoed by the uk government, just last year. in a speech at the un, the uk raised concerns about "continued restrictions to civil and political rights and media freedom" in rwanda. human rights watch has been investigating this. what we as human rights watch and other international organisations have documented is the clear repression in rwanda, not only of political dissidence when we have seen people extrajudicially killed, we have seen torture, indefinite detention, so on and so forth, but we have also seen really stark violence against refugees. for example, a number of refugees were killed for merely speaking about and protesting about their conditions. and dozens of them were put in prison. so what we're talking about is not sending people to a place where they will be safe, we are talking about a place where there is clear documentation of human rights violations against individuals in rwanda, including refugees. the government will encounter substantial logistical challenges, the challenges of providing sufficient care for people who have often experienced trauma, and that has associated with it substantial financial cost and that was something that was learned by australia. one and a half billion australian dollars to house as few as 300 asylum seekers offshore. 800 times more expensive to do that than to process the claim on shore and by contrast, the uk asylum system cost now about one half billion pounds, that includes housing 56,000 asylum seekers in the uk, so there are the financial challenges as well. the uk government is soon to come up against. in the united states, police video has been released of a white officer fatally shooting a black man in the back of the head after a scuffle over a stun gun. i'm going to show you the video from the lead—up to the shooting. you may find some of the images in tim altman's report disturbing. grand rapids, michigan earlier this month. police stop a car being driven by 26—year—old patrick lyoya. the two men get out of their vehicles in what appears to be a fairly routine interaction, but that's when things start to go wrong. i'm stopping you. do you have a license? do you have a driver's license? do you speak english? yes. can i see your license? what does he want? the plate doesn't belong in this car? do you have a license or no? the officer repeatedly asks to see patrick lyoya's driving license, which he says is inside the car. but then he closes the door and appears to try and walk away. no, no, no. stop, stop, put your hand where i can see them... the policeman tries to stop him. there's a struggle, and mr lyoya runs off. he's caught and they both fall to the ground. they get back up again. the officer has pulled out his taser, which they then fight over. let go of the taser. at this point, according to police, the officer accidentally turned off his body camera. stop! by now, the passenger in patrick lyoya's car was filming the incident on his phone. then the police officer appears to shoot mr lyoya in the back of the head. his mother is speaking at a press conference. translation: i started thinkin: i conference. translation: i started thinking i am — conference. translation: i started thinking i am surprised _ conference. translation: i started thinking i am surprised and - thinking i am surprised and astonished to see that my son is here, that my son has been killed with the bullets. i have seen my heart beats broken, really. that was my beloved son, and you know how you love your first—born son. and i cannot have another one who will replace patrick. forthat, i needjustice for my son. the emergence of the footage of patrick lyoya's death has led to protests. dozens of demonstrators gathered peacefully outside the grand rapids police department on wednesday. they demanded the name of the police officer involved be made public. the officer is currently on administrative leave pending the outcome of an investigation by state police. the question for many is, why do traffic stops often seem to escalate to this extent? kim barker has been investigating that for the new york times. our investigation found that over five years, more than 400 motorists who were not holding a knife or a gun, not wielding a weapon in any way, where shot and killed by police in america at these traffic stops, many of which were minor. you look at the one that patrick was stopped for, it was a very minor stop from his licence plate did not match his car, and then all of a sudden he ends up dead out of it. our correspondentjohn sudworth has more from washington. the focus here will be, of course, and the _ the focus here will be, of course, and the question of racialjustice and the question of racialjustice and law— and the question of racialjustice and law enforcement. that's obvious the frant— and law enforcement. that's obvious the front and centre of this case where _ the front and centre of this case where you — the front and centre of this case where you have had a shooting of an unarmed _ where you have had a shooting of an unarmed black man by a white police officer _ unarmed black man by a white police officer it _ unarmed black man by a white police officer. it will once again i think i officer. it will once again i think i liked _ officer. it will once again i think i liked that whiter issue, the bigger— i liked that whiter issue, the bigger issue of gun violence, that the washington post has been keeping a tally— the washington post has been keeping a tally of— the washington post has been keeping a tally of police fatalities over the past — a tally of police fatalities over the past few years. already this year. _ the past few years. already this year. 250 — the past few years. already this year, 250 people in the united states— year, 250 people in the united states have been shot dead by police officers _ states have been shot dead by police officers in _ states have been shot dead by police officers in the line of duty. i think— officers in the line of duty. i think once again, people are asking what looked like a very routine, a very minor— what looked like a very routine, a very minor police incident —— incident~ _ very minor police incident —— incident. this traffic stop could've escatated — incident. this traffic stop could've escalated into something that has once again put that very question of racial— once again put that very question of racialjustice and law enforcement at the _ racialjustice and law enforcement at the heart of the national agenda once more — at the heart of the national agenda once more. its at the heart of the national agenda once more-— at the heart of the national agenda once more. , , ., at the heart of the national agenda once more. x. ,, , y ., ., once more. as always, plenty more on our website- — once more. as always, plenty more on our website. you _ once more. as always, plenty more on our website. you are _ once more. as always, plenty more on our website. you are watching - our website. you are watching outside source on the bbc. hello. overall, a lot of dry weather this easter weekend. there is an east to west split across the uk, though. for many, the skies will be like this, not clear blue, but there will be some warm sunny styles coming through. the further west you are, you will be closer to atlantic weather friends trying to come in. so the cloudier skies and a chance of seeing a little rain at times, whereas further to the east, you are closer to high—pressure. for now, keeping these atlantic weather friends from sleeping right across the uk and getting the driest most settled weather, the warm and sunny spells and eastern areas. for much of the weekend, air from the south, temperatures above average, turning cooler on easter monday. this is how things are looking through tonight. well, again, closer to atlantic weather fronts, well, again, closer to atlantic weatherfronts, the well, again, closer to atlantic weather fronts, the copy of will be in western areas, a little bit of patchy rain here and there. quite misty and murky across much of wales in southwest england by morning. elsewhere, clear spells, a chance very few fog here and there, no frost is expected throughout this weekend. so tomorrow, the cloudier skies, southwest england, wales, northern ireland, southwest scotland can even see a bit of light rain or drizzle, few heavy showers may post into northern ireland, could stay misty around the coast. as a threat to the rest of scotland and england, there is a chance of a shower, the vast majority will stay dry and it's a warmer day. 17 celsius in glasgow, near 20 celsius in northern england, up near 20 celsius in northern england, up to 22 celsius and south england. a lot of dry weather, a mixture of clouds, some sunny spells, where the cloud is taking up to me make it a shower or a few spots of rain. the weather friends getting closer to northern ireland and the western aisles later in the day, breezy or conditions, a chance at seeing some rain. this weather front has my success by easter sunday by coming into the uk rather than being held at bay to our west. whilst there is still some uncertainty about how far into the uk it is going to come, it does look as if it is most likely we will get some rain into northern ireland, parts of scotland, especially into the west on easter sunday, but some of that rain may just range into parts of wales and the western side of england where as to the head of that, you make get a shower, but the central eastern parts of england, this is where we are most likely to continue with the warm sunny spells. this system, with some degree of uncertainty about its progress looks like it will push on through to sunday night into monday. following him behind on monday, chance of shower, a lot of find medic turning around, could be cooler, could be quite windy with rain in northern scotland. hello, i'm maryam moshiri, this is outside source. on day 50 of russia's invasion of ukraine, the man leading ukraine's defence, president zelensky, tells the bbc that russia's war on his country is "utterly pointless". they can destroy us, but we will answer. they can kill us, and they will also die. i cannot understand for what. in the uk, ministers reveal the one—way ticket to rwanda they say will deter illegal immigration. with record numbers now crossing the channel, borisjohnson says the scheme is part of the plan to take back control of immigration. this innovative approach driven by our shared humanitarian impulse and made possible by brexit freedoms will provide safe and legal routes for asylum while disrupting the business model of the gangs. this is where claimants will stay in the rwandan capital — even those who make refugee status will have to settle in the country. human rights groups call the scheme inhumane. the leader of the opposition said this. one workable and extortionate. it will cost billions of pounds and reflect a prime minister who hasn't no grip and no answers to the questions that need answering. and elon musk offers to buy twitterfor $40 billion and says he's the right person to unlock the platform's potential. welcome back to the programme. let's get more on ukraine now. the search is on for evidence of war crimes in the country. like in bucha near kyiv, recently under russian control. authorities says 400 bodies have been found there. this is bucha, today. it shows people queueing at a local government office, looking for any trace of their dead and missing relatives. and pictures like these — this is mariupol, it's an attack on a children's and maternity hospital — also bear witness to the brutality of russia's invasion. all of this evidence could one day be used in a possible war crimes trial. our correspondent anna foster has been speaking to karim khan, the chief prosecutor at the international criminal court. the pictures your viewers have seen are accurate, massive destruction in apartment blocks, bridget, and the human caravan of people are fleeing into poland and neighbouring countries in sa sale of their lives. and of course i've seen bodies dug up, for example in bucha behind the church. and we see trauma in the faces of so many. ourjob is to get to the bottom of it. —— in fear of their lives. to the bottom of it. -- in fear of their lives-— to the bottom of it. -- in fear of their lives. . , ., , . their lives. have you seen evidence of war crimes _ their lives. have you seen evidence of war crimes committed _ their lives. have you seen evidence of war crimes committed by - their lives. have you seen evidence | of war crimes committed by russian forces? mi of war crimes committed by russian forces? �* . . of war crimes committed by russian forces? . , , . ., forces? all sides have a responsibility _ forces? all sides have a responsibility not - forces? all sides have a responsibility not to - forces? all sides have a| responsibility not to look forces? all sides have a - responsibility not to look away forces? all sides have a _ responsibility not to look away from crimes against humanity and war crimes. certainly determination that there are reasonable grounds to believe crimes within the jurisdiction of the court have been committed. i made that determination. we also have the referral. thejob is to determination. we also have the referral. the job is to get concrete evidence that will stand up to scrutiny that we can forensically analyse, that can help us inform us as to whether or not they are crimes, who is responsible, and we can give it tojudges crimes, who is responsible, and we can give it to judges to decide if it warrants appropriate action. what it warrants appropriate action. what about the judgments _ about the judgments and pronouncements about thejudgments and pronouncements being made already, for examplejoe biden has called this genocide, is it helpful to your investigation or does it hinder it? politicians all over the world have greater latitude to describe issues instinctively, based upon information they have. as an officer of the court, as a prosecutor, i have to build a case based on evidence. first we have to investigate criminal eight in —— incriminating and exculpatory evidence, and that will help determine whether offences have been committed, it is a legal test and we need evidence to make those decisions. need evidence to make those decisions-— need evidence to make those decisions. , . . ., ., decisions. there is a generation of --eole decisions. there is a generation of people around _ decisions. there is a generation of people around the _ decisions. there is a generation of people around the world _ decisions. there is a generation of people around the world who - decisions. there is a generation of people around the world who have seen the icc only bring people to justice a long time after crimes were committed. is that something you would agree with?— you would agree with? absolutely, there is a need _ you would agree with? absolutely, there is a need for— you would agree with? absolutely, there is a need for international. there is a need for international justice to move faster and have an impact on people's lives. this is not for the judges impact on people's lives. this is not for thejudges and impact on people's lives. this is not for the judges and the prosecutor in the courtroom in the hague, it affects people's lives throughout the world, notjust ukraine but others. we have to be more nimble and effective and to show the law in action, and i think we can. are you doing anything meaningful to speed up the process? internally we are making quite a few changes to the reorganisation. i started that when i was sworn in. those changes are taking place, but even how we approach things, often we need to start with whatever the low hanging fruit is, we need to find reliable evidence and build cases and be willing to go up if we think there are criminal responsibilities. we can't be waiting for years, because people would rightfully say, what are you doing? would rightfully say, what are you doin: ? �* , ., would rightfully say, what are you doin: ? . , ., . would rightfully say, what are you doin: ? . i. . . would rightfully say, what are you doin:? . . . . doing? are you relevant at all? if ou doing? are you relevant at all? if you identify _ doing? are you relevant at all? if you identify individuals _ doing? are you relevant at all? if you identify individuals who - doing? are you relevant at all? if you identify individuals who have| you identify individuals who have perpetrated war crimes in ukraine, russia does not have form in handing people over to go on trial. 50 do people over to go on trial. so do ou think people over to go on trial. so do you think there _ people over to go on trial. so do you think there will— people over to go on trial. so do you think there will ever - people over to go on trial. so do you think there will ever be - people over to go on trial. so do you think there will ever be a . you think there will ever be a meaningful conclusion to your investigation? none of us have the wisdom of cassandra or a crystal ball, it's a great question. there was a time before the london charter where nobody thought the architects of national socialism and the nazi war criminals would be brought to justice in nuremberg. there was a time when people thought there was no way no loss of itch or read about carriage it would see a courtroom or charles taylor would ever be brought to justice, charles taylor would ever be brought tojustice, but charles taylor would ever be brought to justice, but with charles taylor would ever be brought tojustice, but with persistence to justice, but with persistence and stamina and hard work, we have seen thatjustice can be brought into practice. —— slobbed and the loss of itch or radovan karadzic would be brought into a courtroom. russia says its most important ship in its black sea fleet has been seriously damaged. this is it — it's called the moskva. ukraine says they hit it with two missiles — that's not been confirmed. russia says a fire on board caused it to explode but it's still afloat. (00v) russia's black sea navy supports its land offensives in southern ukraine — like mariupol, where russia is trying to seize control. these are pictures of the moskva before the attack — you can see it firing missiles from onboard. it's got a crew of around 500, as well as anti—ship and anti—aircraft missiles, torpedoes and guns. it's been an important part of russia's navy since the 19805. and it still is. here's vladimir putin on board a few weeks ago. let's hear from jenny hill on what we've heard from the kremlin. a fire broke out on board the moskva, which caused ammunition to catch fire and then explode. it has admitted that significant damage was done to the vessel, although, they are now saying here that the main missiles on board were not damaged. nevertheless, the russians say that the ship will be towed back to port. we're not quite sure which port, although it has been in the past, and that an investigation is ongoing into the cause of the fire, which moscow says still hasn't been established. so that's what russia is saying — but what actually happened isn't yet clear. what we do know is this was it's last known location — two days ago. ukraine says it fired two missiles from inland. they said they fired neptune missiles. they're ukrainian—made — not supplied from elsewhere. for more on what ukraine has said, here's anna foster. as faras ukrainian military are concerned, this was a victory for them. this was two of their missiles that were fired and hit their target. they say that any fire, any damage onboard was caused by them and of course ukrainian sea power is not what the russian sea power is. these missiles that they are believed to have used are still quite new, actually, to the ukrainian military, so here it is being viewed very much as a small victory and a symbolic and james black, a defence researcher at the rand corporation — gave me his analysis. if it is an accident, as the russians claim, that is significant. it certainly quite unusual on such a high—profile operation such as this. the russian navy is not without precedent in terms of having major mishaps and fires in the past, its largest ship, an aircraft carrier, experienced a fire in 2019 whilst it was undergoing repairs in port. it would certainly be very surprising to see this sort of thing happen, particularly in such a heightened kind of tension as these live operations. and we are seeing reports coming out suggesting that the vessel was 60—70 miles off the coast of odesa in southwest ukraine, which would be well within the range of the anti—ship missiles in question, which the ukrainians have, which is about two or three times that distance. and we are also seeing some suggestions that other russian vessels in the area deployed further away from the ukrainian coast after the incident, which again would be potentially consistent with a recognised threat from coastal based missile systems. so if this is an accident, that is very significant militarily, but also it would speak to real concerns with the equipment and organisation, the training, the maintenance of russia navy vessels. and we have seen similar concerns about the quality of logistics and hardware and so on with russia's ground and air forces over the rest of the force. so ukraine is saying that this is a ukrainian strike. if that is the case, what is the significance of that? so, i think there is this kind of three main areas of impact, the first is military, the second is political and the third is economic. on the military front, if this is indeed a ukrainian strike, and are suggestions that it's not just using anti—ship weapons, but also potentially unmanned vehicles or drones to support recognisance targeting. that would represent a real psychological blow to russian forces. a man from london who was a member of the islamic state group has been found guilty of all charges against him, including hostage—taking and conspiring to murderjournalists and aid workers in syria. el shafee elsheikh was accused of being a part of the notorious so—called "beatles cell" — nicknamed by their captives — due to their english accents. one of the victims was david haines. he was a british aid worker who was captured and killed by the islamic state group in september 2014. his brother mike has been speaking to our reporter steve swann. david was my little brother. hejust had this charisma around him. he was a bubbly person. he drew people in. when david started talking with refugees, he changed. we saw for the first time a sense of purpose. he found his calling. then you heard the news he'd been kidnapped. yeah. i thought it was the worst day of my life. having to tell my mum, our mum, our parents, our family that he had been taken. ijust couldn't imagine anything worse. we firmly believed that once isis knew that they had british and american hostages, they were dead men walking. itjust took them 18 months of hell. and then you heard the worst news possible. can you tell us about that? well, the 13th of september was the night my family was torn apart. just a few days beforehand, i'd moved most of my family to my home. we had people sleeping on the couch, airbags, all of places. airbags, all sorts of places. the 13th of september was a beautiful day, we filled it full of family love and laughter and hope. he sniffles. hope my brother would come home safe. there had been an outcry around the world calling for the release of a humanitarian worker called david haines. we had all gone to our beds, i'm sat on the side of my bed undressing. my phone began to ring, it's three minutes past 11 at night. and there was a blackness inside of me. because i knew it was the call that i had been dreading since day one. it was my team leader in london telling me that david was no longer with us. and i gathered my family together, i took my mum's hands... and told her her son couldn't be hurt any more. terrorists with any attack are looking to spread hatred. their actions of murdering my brother were about hate, and if i hate, they win. they hold a big part of my life because i have hate for them. so i will not give them hate. david's remains are rotting in the desert somewhere. he was not brought home. and for me, that's not important. because david walks with me still. the number of people killed in floods in south africa has reached more than 300. officials have called it one of the worst storms in the country's history. a state of disaster has been declared in the province of kwazulu—natal. it includes the port city of durban. some areas there saw month's worth of rain fall in one day. the south african president cyril ramaphosa has been surveying the damage by helicopter. we know that roads damaged by floods and landslides have made it difficult for relief teams to get to people who need help. you can see from these pictures the force of the floods. shipping containers have been left littered across this part of durban, which is usually the busiest shipping terminal in sub—saharan africa. for many people there's a grueling search through rubble. this was a church which collapsed onto a house, killing four children. and this is the reality for thousands more people. assessing the damage and clearing mud and debris from their homes. some have been speaking about their experiences. we lose everything, we can't find anything now. taste we lose everything, we can't find anything now— we lose everything, we can't find. anything now._ the anything now. we start again. the floods were _ anything now. we start again. the floods were over _ anything now. we start again. the floods were over here. _ anything now. we start again. the floods were over here. it - anything now. we start again. the floods were over here. it was - anything now. we start again. the floods were over here. it was like | floods were over here. it was like thism _ floods were over here. it was like thism at— floods were over here. it was like this... at this level on this house. it this... at this level on this house. it flooded — this... at this level on this house. it flooded everywhere. what happened. _ it flooded everywhere. what happened. we _ it flooded everywhere. what happened, we tried - it flooded everywhere. what happened, we tried to- it flooded everywhere. what happened, we tried to move it flooded everywhere. what - happened, we tried to move away and then we _ happened, we tried to move away and then we went — happened, we tried to move away and then we went to— happened, we tried to move away and then we went to the _ happened, we tried to move away and then we went to the civic _ happened, we tried to move away and then we went to the civic hall. - happened, we tried to move away and then we went to the civic hall. then . then we went to the civic hall. then it was— then we went to the civic hall. then it was raining — then we went to the civic hall. then it was raining and _ then we went to the civic hall. then it was raining and we were - then we went to the civic hall. then it was raining and we were walking i it was raining and we were walking with children. _ it was raining and we were walking with children, and _ it was raining and we were walking with children, and everyone - it was raining and we were walkingl with children, and everyone started to come _ with children, and everyone started to come. ~ ., , with children, and everyone started to come. ~ to come. when i opened the door, the water was so — to come. when i opened the door, the water was so high _ to come. when i opened the door, the water was so high in _ to come. when i opened the door, the water was so high in the _ to come. when i opened the door, the water was so high in the door. - to come. when i opened the door, the water was so high in the door. i - water was so high in the door. i woke up my wife, to take some clothes, we ran away. we left everything here, because we were scared for our lives. find everything here, because we were scared for our lives.— scared for our lives. and then i went away. _ scared for our lives. and then i went away. i — scared for our lives. and then i went away, i left _ scared for our lives. and then i went away, i left everything i scared for our lives. and then i - went away, i left everything behind. and we _ went away, i left everything behind. and we were on top of that ruth there. _ and we were on top of that ruth there, watching the water. we didn't know— there, watching the water. we didn't know what _ there, watching the water. we didn't know what to do. we tried to call for help. — know what to do. we tried to call for help, but there was no response. when _ for help, but there was no response. when the _ for help, but there was no response. when the flood was coming, we only had to— when the flood was coming, we only had to run. _ when the flood was coming, we only had to run, there was _ when the flood was coming, we only had to run, there was nothing we - had to run, there was nothing we could _ had to run, there was nothing we could do — had to run, there was nothing we could do we _ had to run, there was nothing we could do. we didn't— had to run, there was nothing we could do. we didn't know- had to run, there was nothing we could do. we didn't know where. had to run, there was nothing we . could do. we didn't know where we were _ could do. we didn't know where we were running. — could do. we didn't know where we were running. we— could do. we didn't know where we were running, we were _ could do. we didn't know where we were running, we were just- could do. we didn't know where we| were running, we were just moving. some _ were running, we were just moving. some sort— were running, we were just moving. some sort of— were running, we were just moving. some sort of area _ were running, we were just moving. some sort of area where _ were running, we were just moving. some sort of area where we - were running, we were just moving. some sort of area where we can - were running, we were just moving. i some sort of area where we can stay. some areas have seen protests against the government's response. like this one. this is a township near durban. residents are singing 'this place is bad'. they are angry about the lack of public services after the floods cut supplies of water and electricity. our correspondent shingai nyoka is 20km away in a different part of durban and sent this update. just days after the floods, there is a sense of disbelief, despair, but also frustration. the police have been deployed to this community of reservoir hills where protesters had gathered. they are angry at the government, they say that authorities have done little before the floods, and now in the wake of the floods, they have received little support. further downstream, communities are picking up the pieces as best they can. i'm at a business centre in red hill where the effects of the flood are still evident. you can see here the barrier wall that was knocked down, and further down, there are vehicles that are still in the river. we are told that the debris, as you can see on that bridge is an indication ofjust how high the waters rose. it's about five metres. they spent devastation all over amounting to tens of millions of dollars, and the question that so many people here have is how long will it take to rebuild and to what extent the government will be able to assist them? tesla boss elon musk has offered to buy twitter. mr musk said he would pay $54.20 a share for twitter, valuing the firm at $41 billion. he's currently the biggest twitter shareholder after it was revealed last week that he'd a 9.2% share. twitter quickly offered elon musk a seat on its board on the condition that he not own more than 14.9% of the outstanding stock. he declined, instead polling his 80 million followers about changes they might want in twitter. in messages published in the filing, mr musk said, "it's a high price and your shareholders will love it," and that if his offer was rejected he'd "reconsider my position as shareholder". here's michelle fleury. all eyes now turn to the board and how they respond. one of the challenges they face is that this offer values the company at above what they shares have been trading at lately. the price offer is 38% higher than when mr musk's stake was first unveiled publicly. it puts pressure on the board to come up with a reason to reject it. that doesn't mean necessarily that this is a done deal. a quick reminder of who elon musk is — he's the ceo of tesla, the electric carmaker, and spacex, the space exploration business. he is the world's richest man with a personal fortune of $273 billion, according to forbes. he is also a big supporter of free speech — he calls himelf a free—speech absolutist — and has been critical of twitter�*s policies. his many twitter polls include asking his more than 80 million followers whether they believed the platform adheres to the principle of free speech. in his letter to the twitter chairman he wrote. here's our business correspondent taig enright on that. he has said that, having been brought into the twitter family, as it were, he is not convinced it can achieve its full potential in its current ownership format, basically. it is a publicly listed company, answerable to stock market regulators and to its own shareholders. he thinks it needs to fulfil what he calls a global societal imperative to be a platform for free speech, and the only way to do it is to take it private, to delist it so it only has one shareholder, him. news of the potential takeover has divided opinion on twitter. followers of donald trump and other far—right political figures who ve had their accounts suspended support the bid — others believe democracy needs more content moderation, not less. earlier i spoke to the bbc�*s technology correspondent james clayton, in san francisco. i think it is pretty clear what his plans are. he thinks that twitter has over—moderated. he says he believes in free speech, he wants the platform to essentially step back. if someone articulates something that is hateful or disinformation, he wants to leave that up. he says he is a free speech absolutist. that is a difference of opinion he has with twitter�*s ceo. that is the direction he wants to take it in. if he does buy the company, he will absolutely be king of twitter, able to do whatever he wants, to feel like he has articulated absolute power. it opens the door to donald trump, back on twitter. there are lots of potential ramifications for this potential move. twitter is contemplating this deal right now. we wait to see what their response is. i touched a little bit on what the response of the people on twitter has been. what have his 80 million followers being saying? it is obviously a lot of people following him, so they say all sorts of things. there are lots of mr trump supporters who are very excited. trump's own social media platform has tanked, it doesn't work. he would absolutely love to get onto twitter. it was always his platform of choice. if elon musk gets on, that will open the door for him. at the moment, he is banned for life under the current chief executive. there are a lot of trump fans who were happy about this, but also democrats who are happy as well because there is this theory going on that the republicans are doing well because mr trump hasn't had a voice on twitter. it's almost bad for republican politics. it is better for them if he is silent, rather than tweeting controversial things. so all sorts of opinions on twitter and it is only the board that really knows what is going on. we have heard nothing from them so far? we haven't heard from them so far. the chief executive of twitter always tweets a statement when something has been agreed or a statement has been confirmed. we wait to see what twitter says, but as michelle said, it's a reasonable deal, not a great deal. i can also imagine thatjack dorsey the co—founder of twitter, who is also on the board, he believes in it passionately, do you want to put that in the hands of this renegade, divisive figure? i'm not convinced. that is it for now. overall, a lot of dry weather this easter weekend. there is an east, west are split across the uk. for many, skies will be like this, not clear blue but some warm, sunny spells coming through. the further west you are, you will be closer to atlantic weather fronts trying to come in, so the cloudy skies here and the chance of seeing a little rain at times, whereas further to the east, you're closer to high pressure. and keeping these atlantic weather fronts from sweeping right across the uk and giving the driest, most settled weather, the warmest sunny spells in eastern areas. much of the weekend, the air from the south, temperatures above average but turning cool on easter monday. this is how things are looking for tonight and again it closer to atlantic weather fronts, the cloudy skies will be in western areas, little bit patchy rain here and there are quite misty across much of wales and south—west england by morning. elsewhere, chance of a few fog patches here and there, no frost exacted this weekend. tomorrow, cloudy skies for south—west england, wales, northern ireland, south of scotland, could see light rain or drizzle here and there, heavier showers may push into northern ireland, could stay misty on the coast. through scotland and england the chance of a shower, vast majority will stay dry and warm day, 17 degrees in glasgow. saturday, dry weather, the cloud is thick, you may get a shower and a weather front getting close at her northern ireland and the western isles, breezy conditions on the chance of some rain. there is a weather front has more success by easter sunday in coming into the uk rather than being held at bay to our west. whilst there are still some uncertainty about how far into the uk it is going to come, it does look as though it is most likely we will get some rain into northern ireland, parts of scotland, especially in the west on easter sunday that some of that rain mayjust ranging towards parts of wales and the western side of england, where a steady head of that, you may get a shower but through central eastern parts of england, this is where we are mostly to continue with the warm, sunny spells. this system with some consistency with progress, looks like it will push in through to monday. monday, chance of a shower, fine weather, telling cooler and could be windy with some rain in northern scotland. hello, i'm nuala mcgovern. you're watching the context on bbc news. a message of defiance, as ukraine's president talks to the bbc. they can destroy us, but we'll answer. they can kill us, and they will also die. i can't understand for what. so 50 days into russia's war on ukraine, what's happened to vladimir putin's hopes of achieving a rapid victory? we'll talk live to general david petraeus. as the uk government unveils plans to deal with unwanted migration offshore, we'll hear live from a rwandan government spokesman in kigali. dude, i'm stopping you. do you have a licence? _ dude, i'm stopping you. do you have a licence? do— dude, i'm stopping you. do you have a licence? do you— dude, i'm stopping you. do you have a licence? do you have _ dude, i'm stopping you. do you have a licence? do you have a _ dude, i'm stopping you. do you have a licence? do you have a licence? . and video emerges in the united states of a police officer fatally shooting a black man as he lay face—down on the ground.

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