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prince andrew will face a civil trial in the united states over accusations of sexual assault. a new yorkjudge ruled his attempt to dismiss it was without merit. tonight with the context, daily mail columnist sarah vine and the political editor of the daily mirror, pippa crerar. hello, a warm welcome. for the first time, borisjohnson has admitted he did attend a downing st party during last years lockdown. and, for the first time, the leader of the opposition has called on him to resign. the prime minister urged all sides to await the findings of an internal inquiry led by the senior civil servant sue gray. but as far as lawbreaking goes, many would say he has already admitted, that his advisers — if not the prime minister himself — were in breach of laws, that many others have been fined for breaking. i thought it was a work event and, mr speaker, i regret very much that we did not do things differently that evening and, mr speaker, as i said, i take full responsibility and apologise, mr speaker. where that leaves the prime minister tonight, we will discuss in the next half hour — suffice to say, there are a number of conservative mp�*s now publically calling on him to go. in the next half hour — suffice to say, there are a number of conservative mp�*s now publically calling on him to go. we have the prime minister attending down parties in clear breach of rules — down parties in clear breach of rules we _ down parties in clear breach of rules. we have ridiculous denials which _ rules. we have ridiculous denials which he — rules. we have ridiculous denials which he knows are untrue. a clear breach— which he knows are untrue. a clear breach of— which he knows are untrue. a clear breach of the ministerial code. that code says _ breach of the ministerial code. that code says ministers who knowingly miss and _ code says ministers who knowingly miss and lead parliament are expected to offer the resignation —— mislead~ _ expected to offer the resignation —— mislead. the party's over, prime ministeh — mislead. the party's over, prime minister. the only question is, will the british— minister. the only question is, will the british public to come out? will his party— the british public to come out? will his party kick him out? or will he do the _ his party kick him out? or will he do the decent thing and resign? cheering. sarah, iwas sarah, i was reading your column, i'll put the headline up... where you so angry?— i'll put the headline up... where you so angry? well, number one, because it — you so angry? well, number one, because it was _ you so angry? well, number one, because it wasjust _ you so angry? well, number one, because it was just unnecessary l you so angry? well, number one, i because it wasjust unnecessary and because it was just unnecessary and stupid. nobody was having parties then, it wasn't what anyone was doing, and people were having a rough time. in the rules were so complicated and difficult, and confusing — there was a bit of insanity around at the time, everyone was just insanity around at the time, everyone wasjust under insanity around at the time, everyone was just under so much stress. so the idea that you'd have a bit of a party seemed kind of odd. but also, i think that in the wider sense, it's very frustrating because it almost eclipses all the good stuff that boris johnson has it almost eclipses all the good stuff that borisjohnson has done, in terms of the vaccine roll—out and getting us through this crisis. because now, he'll be remembered— he threw that all away for what, a couple glasses of warm white wine and nibbles? it'sjust infantile. does it go deeper than that? i want to spell this out for our world viewers, because they may not know your relationship to your now x democrat ex—husband, michael gove, who was at the time the cabinet secretary and he was setting rules and emphasising to all of us how important those rules were. given you were locked down with him and seeing first—hand the pressure and stress he was probably under, does it make you more angry? i stress he was probably under, does it make you more angry?— stress he was probably under, does it make you more angry? i mean, none of us left the — it make you more angry? i mean, none of us left the house _ it make you more angry? i mean, none of us left the house practically, - of us left the house practically, and he was here all the time, they were working constantly, seven days a week, and lists virtual calls, these terrible figures coming out, really scary stuff. i'm not dominic cummings, iwill get really scary stuff. i'm not dominic cummings, i will get you —— won't give you all the inside stuff. i just don't understand at one point anyone at number ten thought it would be ok to bend the rules for themselves? because the reason the rules are so strict was because there was a real fear that this thing could be completely out of control. i remember matt hancock talking about bodies piling up in the streets. they were really worried it was going to be a very serious catastrophe, and they felt they had no choice but to do this. i just don't understand — i saw people working as hard as they could in a very difficult situation, and the prime minister really did nearly die of covid, and hejust prime minister really did nearly die of covid, and he just got straight back to work. they were very, very determined — and itjust feels so stupid to have thrown it all away like this. i think that's my major frustration, it's been my very odd, unique point of view. if it frustration, it's been my very odd, unique point of view.— unique point of view. if it was a .a l unique point of view. if it was a party. which — unique point of view. if it was a party. which it— unique point of view. if it was a party, which it says _ unique point of view. if it was a party, which it says on - unique point of view. if it was a party, which it says on the - unique point of view. if it was a i party, which it says on the e-mail party, which it says on the e—mail that it was, and he attended it for 25 minutes — then many people around the country would take the view that he's broken the law and, in so doing, the implication is that he lied to the house. it's his position untenable?— lied to the house. it's his position untenable? , , , ., , ., untenable? this is the problem for him - really. _ untenable? this is the problem for him - really. i— untenable? this is the problem for him - really, i don't— untenable? this is the problem for him - really, i don't see _ untenable? this is the problem for him - really, i don't see how- untenable? this is the problem for him - really, i don't see how boris| him — really, i don't see how boris johnson _ him — really, i don't see how boris johnson could've said anything other than he did — johnson could've said anything other than he did in the house of commons today _ than he did in the house of commons today if— than he did in the house of commons today if he _ than he did in the house of commons today. if he had carried on hiding behind _ today. if he had carried on hiding behind the — today. if he had carried on hiding behind the inquiry, the lion of ministers _ behind the inquiry, the lion of ministers over the past 24 hours is that we _ ministers over the past 24 hours is that we need to wait for the results of the _ that we need to wait for the results of the inquiry over the next week or the week— of the inquiry over the next week or the week after this rate before they pronounce — the week after this rate before they pronounce any detail or give any explanation — then we would've had this void _ explanation — then we would've had this void filled by increasingly harrowing stories. people made themselves during the first lockdown, which sarah rightly said, was very— lockdown, which sarah rightly said, was very intense. and the public anger— was very intense. and the public anger mounted. tory mps will be feeling _ anger mounted. tory mps will be feeling that in their in boxes, in their— feeling that in their in boxes, in their constituency surgeries, and become — their constituency surgeries, and become even more mutinous than they clearly— become even more mutinous than they clearly already are. if he'd taken the other— clearly already are. if he'd taken the other option and put his hands up the other option and put his hands up and _ the other option and put his hands up and confessed, and said, you know. _ up and confessed, and said, you know. come _ up and confessed, and said, you know, come up with a credible excuse for attending the event and pretty much _ for attending the event and pretty much admitted that it was a party, as it said _ much admitted that it was a party, as it said on— much admitted that it was a party, as it said on the e—mail, given there — as it said on the e—mail, given there were _ as it said on the e—mail, given there were drinks and tables laden with food, — there were drinks and tables laden with food, people walking around with food, people walking around with glasses of wine rather than spreadsheets in the garden that day - then _ spreadsheets in the garden that day - then he _ spreadsheets in the garden that day — then he would be admitting both effectively that he'd broken the rules— effectively that he'd broken the rules and misled parliament, which are resigning matters. so he came up with an _ are resigning matters. so he came up with an incredible version of events suggesting that it was a work event — a suggesting that it was a work event - a trit— suggesting that it was a work event - a bit of— suggesting that it was a work event - a bit of a — suggesting that it was a work event — a bit of a fudge that buys some time _ — a bit of a fudge that buys some time until— — a bit of a fudge that buys some time until the inquiry next week, basically asking his backbenchers to be patient _ basically asking his backbenchers to be patient and to give him some time while _ be patient and to give him some time while still— be patient and to give him some time while still issuing an apology, albeit— while still issuing an apology, albeit not a personal one for his own actions. and i think that was really— own actions. and i think that was really only— own actions. and i think that was really only the only option he had available — really only the only option he had available to him. the really only the only option he had available to him.— the way this tends to work is that conservative mps would send a letter to the chair of the 1922 committee, calling for the pm to stand aside. we don't know how many letters have been sent, but 54 would trigger a vote. this was the conservative mp sir roger gail talking to the bbc earlier today — he has already submitted his letter calling for the pm to resign. the prime minister's put us in an impossible position. he's asking us to believe that there was some sort of bring—a—bottle work party in downing street, and he was there for 25 minutes. at the despatch box on the 8th of december, he said there was no party. he misled the house. all of the responses i've received from my constituents have been negative. i'm afraid they've lost their faith in mrjohnson, theyjust don't believe any more. —— believe him any more. and i think we've now got to the stage where the 1922 committee has to intervene. let's bring in shailesh vara, conservative mp for north west cambridgeshire. welcome to the programme. have you ever stood in a pub for 25 minutes and not know that you are standing in a pub? and not know that you are standing in a ub? and not know that you are standing ina ub? , ., in a pub? good evening, christian. no, i've in a pub? good evening, christian. no. we always — in a pub? good evening, christian. no, i've always known _ in a pub? good evening, christian. no, i've always known when - in a pub? good evening, christian. no, i've always known when i've i in a pub? good evening, christian. i no, i've always known when i've gone into a _ no, i've always known when i've gone into a pub _ no, i've always known when i've gone into a pub and — no, i've always known when i've gone into a pub and as— no, i've always known when i've gone into a pub. and as far— no, i've always known when i've gone into a pub. and as far as— no, i've always known when i've gone into a pub. and as far as today's - into a pub. and as far as today's concern, — into a pub. and as far as today's concern, i— into a pub. and as far as today's concern, i was _ into a pub. and as far as today's concern, i was in _ into a pub. and as far as today's concern, i was in the _ into a pub. and as far as today's i concern, i was in the chamber been the prime _ concern, i was in the chamber been the prime ministers— concern, i was in the chamber been the prime ministers book, - concern, i was in the chamber been the prime ministers book, i- concern, i was in the chamber been| the prime ministers book, ithought he gave _ the prime ministers book, ithought he gave a _ the prime ministers book, ithought he gave a very — the prime ministers book, ithought he gave a very heartfelt _ the prime ministers book, ithought he gave a very heartfelt a _ the prime ministers book, ithought he gave a very heartfelt a policy - the prime ministers book, ithought he gave a very heartfelt a policy —— i he gave a very heartfelt a policy —— apology _ he gave a very heartfelt a policy —— apology there _ he gave a very heartfelt a policy —— apology. there was _ he gave a very heartfelt a policy —— apology. there was due _ he gave a very heartfelt a policy ——| apology. there was due recognition of the _ apology. there was due recognition of the millions _ apology. there was due recognition of the millions and _ apology. there was due recognition of the millions and millions - apology. there was due recognition of the millions and millions of - of the millions and millions of people — of the millions and millions of people throughout _ of the millions and millions of people throughout the - of the millions and millions of| people throughout the country of the millions and millions of - people throughout the country who have suffered — people throughout the country who have suffered enormously- people throughout the country who have suffered enormously and - people throughout the country who. have suffered enormously and made hu-e have suffered enormously and made huge sacrifices, _ have suffered enormously and made huge sacrifices, unable _ have suffered enormously and made huge sacrifices, unable to— have suffered enormously and made huge sacrifices, unable to be - have suffered enormously and made huge sacrifices, unable to be with i huge sacrifices, unable to be with their— huge sacrifices, unable to be with their loved — huge sacrifices, unable to be with their loved ones— huge sacrifices, unable to be with their loved ones in— huge sacrifices, unable to be with their loved ones in their- huge sacrifices, unable to be with their loved ones in their last - their loved ones in their last moments _ their loved ones in their last moments or— their loved ones in their last moments or attend - their loved ones in their lasti moments or attend funerals, their loved ones in their last - moments or attend funerals, and so on. moments or attend funerals, and so on and _ moments or attend funerals, and so on and he — moments or attend funerals, and so on. and he rightfully— moments or attend funerals, and so on. and he rightfully recognised, i moments or attend funerals, and so on. and he rightfully recognised, as| on. and he rightfully recognised, as was referred — on. and he rightfully recognised, as was referred to _ on. and he rightfully recognised, as was referred to earlier— on. and he rightfully recognised, as was referred to earlier on _ on. and he rightfully recognised, as was referred to earlier on by- on. and he rightfully recognised, as was referred to earlier on by one i was referred to earlier on by one of your panelists, the rage _ was referred to earlier on by one of your panelists, the rage and - your panelists, the rage and angerm _ your panelists, the rage and men .. your panelists, the rage and anuer... , ., anger... he said he understood how millions of people _ anger... he said he understood how millions of people would _ anger... he said he understood how millions of people would see - anger... he said he understood how millions of people would see it - millions of people would see it around the country — but he didn't accept fully that it was a party. technically, he said, he didn't think you broke the rules. let me show you the pole that's out tonight, quite a big pole, 2500 people have listened to what boris johnson said — and that's how many of them, 88%, think it was a party that he attended. only 4% don't think it was a party. and if you drill into that poll, 85% of conservative voters think it was a party. so he has a problem, doesn't he? in party. so he has a problem, doesn't he? , , . he? in his statement, he did recognise — he? in his statement, he did recognise that _ he? in his statement, he did recognise that number - he? in his statement, he did recognise that number ten l he? in his statement, he did| recognise that number ten is he? in his statement, he did - recognise that number ten is bound by the _ recognise that number ten is bound by the same — recognise that number ten is bound by the same rules _ recognise that number ten is bound by the same rules as _ recognise that number ten is bound by the same rules as the _ recognise that number ten is bound by the same rules as the rest - recognise that number ten is bound by the same rules as the rest of - recognise that number ten is bound by the same rules as the rest of the country. _ by the same rules as the rest of the country and — by the same rules as the rest of the country, and that _ by the same rules as the rest of the country, and that clearly— by the same rules as the rest of the country, and that clearly didn't - country, and that clearly didn't happen, — country, and that clearly didn't happen. and _ country, and that clearly didn't happen, and he's taken- country, and that clearly didn't happen, and he's taken full- happen, and he's taken full responsibility— happen, and he's taken full responsibility for— happen, and he's taken full responsibility for that. - happen, and he's taken full responsibility for that. and | happen, and he's taken fulli responsibility for that. and i happen, and he's taken full- responsibility for that. and i think it's important— responsibility for that. and i think it's important now— responsibility for that. and i think it's important now that _ responsibility for that. and i think it's important now that we - responsibility for that. and i think. it's important now that we recognise there _ it's important now that we recognise there has— it's important now that we recognise there has been— it's important now that we recognise there has been a _ it's important now that we recognise there has been a full— it's important now that we recognise there has been a full and _ it's important now that we recognise there has been a full and proper- there has been a full and proper apology — there has been a full and proper apology there's _ there has been a full and proper apology, there's been _ there has been a full and proper apology, there's been a - there has been a full and proper. apology, there's been a recognition of the _ apology, there's been a recognition of the millions _ apology, there's been a recognition of the millions of— apology, there's been a recognition of the millions of people who - apology, there's been a recognition of the millions of people who are l of the millions of people who are upset _ of the millions of people who are upset and — of the millions of people who are upset and angry _ of the millions of people who are upset and angry, suffered - of the millions of people who are upset and angry, suffered in - of the millions of people who are | upset and angry, suffered in their own ways, — upset and angry, suffered in their own ways, but _ upset and angry, suffered in their own ways, but also _ upset and angry, suffered in their own ways, but also are _ upset and angry, suffered in their own ways, but also are angry - upset and angry, suffered in their own ways, but also are angry and i own ways, but also are angry and outraged — own ways, but also are angry and outraged by— own ways, but also are angry and outraged by what's _ own ways, but also are angry and outraged by what's happened. . own ways, but also are angry and outraged by what's happened. i. own ways, but also are angry and - outraged by what's happened. i think what we _ outraged by what's happened. i think what we now— outraged by what's happened. i think what we now need _ outraged by what's happened. i think what we now need to _ outraged by what's happened. i think what we now need to do _ outraged by what's happened. i think what we now need to do is _ outraged by what's happened. i think what we now need to do is to - outraged by what's happened. i think what we now need to do is to wait. what we now need to do is to wait for the _ what we now need to do is to wait for the inquiry— what we now need to do is to wait for the inquiry to _ what we now need to do is to wait for the inquiry to be completed. i| for the inquiry to be completed. i think we — for the inquiry to be completed. i think we should _ for the inquiry to be completed. i think we should not _ for the inquiry to be completed. i. think we should not underestimate that inquiry — think we should not underestimate that inquiry she _ think we should not underestimate that inquiry. she will— think we should not underestimate that inquiry. she will be _ that inquiry. she will be considering _ that inquiry. she will be considering a _ that inquiry. she will be considering a number. that inquiry. she will be| considering a number of that inquiry. she will be _ considering a number of functions, and she'll— considering a number of functions, and she'll be — considering a number of functions, and she'll be doing _ considering a number of functions, and she'll be doing a _ considering a number of functions, and she'll be doing a thorough- and she'll be doing a thorough inquiry — and she'll be doing a thorough inquiry shatt— and she'll be doing a thorough inquiry, shall be _ and she'll be doing a thorough inquiry, shall be looking - and she'll be doing a thorough inquiry, shall be looking at- and she'll be doing a thoroughl inquiry, shall be looking at who organised — inquiry, shall be looking at who organised the _ inquiry, shall be looking at who organised the events, - inquiry, shall be looking at who organised the events, what - inquiry, shall be looking at whol organised the events, what their purpose — organised the events, what their purpose was, _ organised the events, what their purpose was, who _ organised the events, what their purpose was, who attended, - organised the events, what their. purpose was, who attended, what organised the events, what their- purpose was, who attended, what was said, purpose was, who attended, what was said. and so— purpose was, who attended, what was said. and so on — purpose was, who attended, what was said, and so on. and _ purpose was, who attended, what was said, and so on. and let's _ purpose was, who attended, what was said, and so on. and let's not - said, and so on. and let's not underestimate _ said, and so on. and let's not underestimate who— said, and so on. and let's not underestimate who sue - said, and so on. and let's not underestimate who sue greyl said, and so on. and let's not i underestimate who sue grey is, said, and so on. and let's not - underestimate who sue grey is, she's a formidable — underestimate who sue grey is, she's a formidable civil— underestimate who sue grey is, she's a formidable civil servant... - underestimate who sue grey is, she's a formidable civil servant... we - a formidable civil servant... we make _ a formidable civil servant... we make we — a formidable civil servant... we make we will— a formidable civil servant... we make we will come _ a formidable civil servant... we make we will come to - a formidable civil servant... we make we will come to her, - a formidable civil servant... we make we will come to her, butl a formidable civil servant... we| make we will come to her, but i a formidable civil servant... we - make we will come to her, but i want to get— make we will come to her, but i want to get as _ make we will come to her, but i want to get as many— make we will come to her, but i want to get as many questions _ make we will come to her, but i want to get as many questions and - make we will come to her, but i want to get as many questions and as - make we will come to her, but i want to get as many questions and as i- to get as many questions and as i can with — to get as many questions and as i can with you _ to get as many questions and as i can with you-— can with you. what struck me yesterday _ can with you. what struck me yesterday when _ can with you. what struck me yesterday when the _ can with you. what struck me | yesterday when the paymaster can with you. what struck me - yesterday when the paymaster general set up to defend the prime minister, yes, there were no conservative backbenchers in the house — but there was no one in the front bench, no one to support him. the whips couldn't find anyone to stand alongside him in support. this is the tweet that the chancellor has sent out tonight. i will go i've been busy all day considering work on our plan forjobs as well as meeting mps to discuss the energy situation." the pm was right to apologise and i support his request for patients while sue grey investigates." that's hardly fulsome investigates." that's hardly fulsome in support, isn't it? does he have the confidence of the cabinet? i the confidence of the cabinet? i would've thought so, because otherwise _ would've thought so, because otherwise the _ would've thought so, because otherwise the individuals - would've thought so, because otherwise the individuals who| would've thought so, because - otherwise the individuals who don't -ive otherwise the individuals who don't give him _ otherwise the individuals who don't give him their— otherwise the individuals who don't give him their support _ otherwise the individuals who don't give him their support would - otherwise the individuals who don't give him their support would be - give him their support would be asked _ give him their support would be asked cabinet— give him their support would be asked cabinet ministers. - give him their support would be asked cabinet ministers. but. give him their support would be i asked cabinet ministers. but the fulsome — asked cabinet ministers. but the fulsome apology _ asked cabinet ministers. but the fulsome apology i'm _ asked cabinet ministers. but the fulsome apology i'm referring i asked cabinet ministers. but the fulsome apology i'm referring toi asked cabinet ministers. but the - fulsome apology i'm referring to was the apology— fulsome apology i'm referring to was the apology given _ fulsome apology i'm referring to was the apology given by _ fulsome apology i'm referring to was the apology given by prime - fulsome apology i'm referring to was the apology given by prime ministerl the apology given by prime minister in the _ the apology given by prime minister in the recognition _ the apology given by prime minister in the recognition that _ the apology given by prime minister in the recognition that he _ the apology given by prime minister in the recognition that he could've i in the recognition that he could've done _ in the recognition that he could've done things— in the recognition that he could've done things a _ in the recognition that he could've done things a whole _ in the recognition that he could've done things a whole lot _ in the recognition that he could've done things a whole lot better. i in the recognition that he could've| done things a whole lot better. he fully appreciates the _ done things a whole lot better. he fully appreciates the outrage of. fully appreciates the outrage of the people _ fully appreciates the outrage of the peopte in this — fully appreciates the outrage of the people in this country, and - fully appreciates the outrage of the people in this country, and i think. people in this country, and i think it's also— people in this country, and i think it's also important _ people in this country, and i think it's also important to _ people in this country, and i think it's also important to recognise i it's also important to recognise that he — it's also important to recognise that he recognises— it's also important to recognise that he recognises number- it's also important to recognise that he recognises number teni it's also important to recognise i that he recognises number ten is bound _ that he recognises number ten is bound by— that he recognises number ten is bound by the _ that he recognises number ten is bound by the same _ that he recognises number ten is bound by the same rules - that he recognises number ten is bound by the same rules as - that he recognises number ten is bound by the same rules as the l that he recognises number ten is. bound by the same rules as the rest of this— bound by the same rules as the rest of this country _ bound by the same rules as the rest of this country. you _ bound by the same rules as the rest of this country. you say _ bound by the same rules as the rest of this country. you say you'll - bound by the same rules as the rest of this country. you say you'll come | of this country. you say you'll come back to _ of this country. you say you'll come back to sucre — of this country. you say you'll come back to sucre later _ of this country. you say you'll come back to sucre later — _ of this country. you say you'll come back to sucre later — i— of this country. you say you'll come back to sucre later — ijust - of this country. you say you'll come back to sucre later — ijust want - back to sucre later — ijust want to make _ back to sucre later — ijust want to make my— back to sucre later — ijust want to make my contribution _ back to sucre later — ijust want to make my contribution on - back to sucre later — ijust want to make my contribution on sucre . back to sucre later — ijust want to make my contribution on sucre ——i make my contribution on sucre —— sucre, _ make my contribution on sucre —— sucre. to — make my contribution on sucre —— sucre, to recognise _ make my contribution on sucre —— sucre, to recognise she _ make my contribution on sucre —— sucre, to recognise she is - make my contribution on sucre —— sucre, to recognise she is a - sucre, to recognise she is a formidable _ sucre, to recognise she is a formidable civil— sucre, to recognise she is a formidable civil servant - sucre, to recognise she is a| formidable civil servant who sucre, to recognise she is a - formidable civil servant who will do an incredible — formidable civil servant who will do an incredible job. _ formidable civil servant who will do an incredible job. ._ formidable civil servant who will do an incredible job. . she _ formidable civil servant who will do an incredible job. . she will- formidable civil servant who will do an incredible job. . she will leave i an incredible job. . she will leave no stone — an incredible job. . she will leave no stone unturned, _ an incredible job. . she will leave no stone unturned, she - an incredible job. . she will leave no stone unturned, she will- an incredible job. . she will leave no stone unturned, she will do. an incredible job. . she will leave no stone unturned, she will do a| no stone unturned, she will do a thorough — no stone unturned, she will do a thorough inquiry, _ no stone unturned, she will do a thorough inquiry, and _ no stone unturned, she will do a thorough inquiry, and what - no stone unturned, she will do a thorough inquiry, and what we i no stone unturned, she will do a . thorough inquiry, and what we now need to— thorough inquiry, and what we now need to do— thorough inquiry, and what we now need to do is— thorough inquiry, and what we now need to do is recognise _ thorough inquiry, and what we now need to do is recognise there's- thorough inquiry, and what we now. need to do is recognise there's been a fulsome _ need to do is recognise there's been a fulsome apology _ need to do is recognise there's been a fulsome apology, and _ need to do is recognise there's been a fulsome apology, and also - need to do is recognise there's been a fulsome apology, and also that. need to do is recognise there's been a fulsome apology, and also that we shouldn't— a fulsome apology, and also that we shouldn't prejudge _ a fulsome apology, and also that we shouldn't prejudge the _ a fulsome apology, and also that we shouldn't prejudge the outcome - a fulsome apology, and also that we shouldn't prejudge the outcome of. shouldn't prejudge the outcome of what i'm _ shouldn't prejudge the outcome of what i'm sure _ shouldn't prejudge the outcome of what i'm sure will— shouldn't prejudge the outcome of what i'm sure will be _ shouldn't prejudge the outcome of what i'm sure will be a _ shouldn't prejudge the outcome of what i'm sure will be a very- what i'm sure will be a very thorough _ what i'm sure will be a very thorough inquiry. _ what i'm sure will be a very thorough inquiry. the - what i'm sure will be a veryl thorough inquiry. the prime what i'm sure will be a very- thorough inquiry. the prime minister has said _ thorough inquiry. the prime minister has said that — thorough inquiry. the prime minister has said that this _ thorough inquiry. the prime minister has said that this —— _ thorough inquiry. the prime minister has said that this —— he _ thorough inquiry. the prime minister has said that this —— he will- thorough inquiry. the prime minister has said that this —— he will come - has said that this —— he will come back and — has said that this —— he will come back and take _ has said that this —— he will come back and take questions - has said that this —— he will come back and take questions from - has said that this —— he will come back and take questions from the benches — back and take questions from the benches and _ back and take questions from the benches and backbenchers, - back and take questions from the benches and backbenchers, and i benches and backbenchers, and opposition— benches and backbenchers, and opposition benches, _ benches and backbenchers, and opposition benches, and - benches and backbenchers, and opposition benches, and his - benches and backbenchers, andi opposition benches, and his own benches and backbenchers, and - opposition benches, and his own 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indeed for coming on, we appreciatel indeed for coming on, we appreciate it. pippa, here's the story you broke in the mirror at the beginning of december — the first time we became aware rules had been broken. and this was the prime minsiter�*s response to the house later that day. what i can tell the right honourable gentleman is that all guidance was followed completely during number ten. a week laster, itv released a recording in which his advisers joked about a christmas party they had attended — and this was his response. i apologise... i apologise unreservedly for the defence democrat offence it has caused up and down the country, and i apologise for the impression that it gives. but i repeat, mr speaker, that i have been repeatedly assured since these allegations emerged that there was no party... and no covid rules were broken. and that is what i have been repeatedly assured. a few days later, he was asked about a picture taken on 15 may — in which he and his wife were at what looked liked a cheese and wine event. he said they were people at work, talking about work. here's the case for the defence. i'm not saying i believe it, but i know a little bit about the war and that is downing street, this war and of georgian shoe boxes where everyone is cramming together. if we think back to the end of april, everybody got covid in downing street. it was not a healthfully environment and the way to get out of that was to spill into the garden. you couldn't have a beer and a pub or at home with a friend, or on a park bench. you could probably have a beer while you were working with one of your work colleagues. is that what happened?— work colleagues. is that what ha ened? ., ., �* , , happened? note, and we've been very clear throughout _ happened? note, and we've been very clear throughout in _ happened? note, and we've been very clear throughout in making _ happened? note, and we've been very clear throughout in making a _ clear throughout in making a distinction — and we've uncovered four of— distinction — and we've uncovered four of these gatherings and are reporting — four of these gatherings and are reporting that sue grey is looking at. reporting that sue grey is looking at we've — reporting that sue grey is looking at. we've been clear we were not looking _ at. we've been clear we were not looking at— at. we've been clear we were not looking at the grey area, if you like. _ looking at the grey area, if you like, people having a beer at their desk— like, people having a beer at their desk or— like, people having a beer at their desk or at — like, people having a beer at their desk or at the end of the working day - _ desk or at the end of the working day - which— desk or at the end of the working day — which at number ten never ends, _ day — which at number ten never ends. but — day — which at number ten never ends, but goes late into the night. whether— ends, but goes late into the night. whether or— ends, but goes late into the night. whether or not that was within the rutes— whether or not that was within the rules are _ whether or not that was within the rules are not, we consider that to be borderline, and possibly understandable if it was technically a breach— understandable if it was technically a breach of the rules at the time. but we _ a breach of the rules at the time. but we concentrated on, and certainly _ but we concentrated on, and certainly the gatherings that sue l rey certainly the gatherings that sue grey is— certainly the gatherings that sue grey is concentrating on, are those who guite — grey is concentrating on, are those who quite clearly had no work aspect to them _ who quite clearly had no work aspect to them and were all social. they all took _ to them and were all social. they all took place after conventional working — all took place after conventional working hours and did, there was e-maits — working hours and did, there was emails or— working hours and did, there was e—mails or messages describing them as parties _ e—mails or messages describing them as parties in— e—mails or messages describing them as parties. in the case of the most recent— as parties. in the case of the most recent allegations, the dominic cummings one about may 2020, staff were urged _ cummings one about may 2020, staff were urged to bring their own bottle — were urged to bring their own bottle. there were all sorts of other— bottle. there were all sorts of other activities going on, like christmas games and quizzes, secret santas— christmas games and quizzes, secret santas that _ christmas games and quizzes, secret santas that quite clearly could not be considered work activities. and i think— be considered work activities. and i think that _ be considered work activities. and i think that distinction is really important because irregardless of what a _ important because irregardless of what a rabbit warren number ten might— what a rabbit warren number ten might be, — what a rabbit warren number ten might be, and hospitals that were dealing _ might be, and hospitals that were dealing with similar working conditions, there was a set of rule in place _ conditions, there was a set of rule in place. nothing to stop them from going _ in place. nothing to stop them from going to the garden and doing work out there. — going to the garden and doing work out there, of course, but it looks to me _ out there, of course, but it looks to me like — out there, of course, but it looks to me like they were not following the rules they expected everyone else to _ the rules they expected everyone else to follow. the the rules they expected everyone else to follow.— the rules they expected everyone else to follow. the reason i put the ruestion i else to follow. the reason i put the question i did _ else to follow. the reason i put the question i did about _ else to follow. the reason i put the question i did about whether - else to follow. the reason i put the question i did about whether or - else to follow. the reason i put the question i did about whether or not borisjohnson knew he was at a party is because it comes down to the judgment. and i must ask you, because we've already talked about michael gove, everybody remembers backin michael gove, everybody remembers back in 2016 and the reason he didn't support him as prime minister was because, having consulting widely, he didn't feel that he had the ability to bring the party and the ability to bring the party and the country together. and there was a question mark over hisjudgment then. he's been very supportive tonight, if you look at the tweet tonight, if you look at the tweet tonight, in the 1922 committee, but i wonder privately whether he will think he'll be vindicated. i i wonder privately whether he will think he'll be vindicated.— think he'll be vindicated. i can't answer that _ think he'll be vindicated. i can't answer that question _ think he'll be vindicated. i can't answer that question because l think he'll be vindicated. i can't answer that question because i | think he'll be vindicated. i can't - answer that question because i don't live with him any more. but what i will say is that one of the big problems with this whole thing is that what effectively the prime minister is now asking us to do is to show him a bit of slack, to show some sympathy for his situation that existed at number ten at the time. the problem with that is that no one showed members of the public any sympathy. we had old ladies being interviewed by the police because they had a cup of tea on the wrong bench. we had people being fined for going for walks with their dogs in situations that seem to be completely ok. i can river sitting on a bench in the park in london, and some policeman coming up to me and bellowing at me and my megaphone —— in my ear with his megaphone that if i didn't get up, i would be arrested. this is the difficulty. you cannot expect the public to show you sympathy when actually, these rules were enforced in a very draconian way. so rules were enforced in a very draconian way.— rules were enforced in a very draconian way. rules were enforced in a very draconian wa . , ., ., ., ~ ., draconian way. so when you look at that ole draconian way. so when you look at that pole and. _ draconian way. so when you look at that pole and, in _ draconian way. so when you look at that pole and, in mind _ draconian way. so when you look at that pole and, in mind of— draconian way. so when you look at that pole and, in mind of what - draconian way. so when you look at that pole and, in mind of what you | that pole and, in mind of what you just said, should he resign? trio. that pole and, in mind of what you just said, should he resign? kiwi just said, should he resign? no, i don't think— just said, should he resign? no, i don't think is _ just said, should he resign? no, i don't think is there _ just said, should he resign? no, i don't think is there yet. _ just said, should he resign? no, i don't think is there yet. i - just said, should he resign? no, i don't think is there yet. i think i don't think is there yet. i think that there will be... the prime minister's main problem is dominic cummings, and his main mistake was to not secure dominic cummings�*s silence when he walked out of number ten. and the thing about cummings is that he is the master of guerrilla political warfare. and the context of the situation, boris is like a giant beast, and cummings is like a tiny little, very sharp toothed little mammal, and he'lljust keep on going. and he will bring him down, because that's what he wants to do. let's not forget what cummings is capable of in terms of persuasion. and i think that is a huge problem. i suspect the reckoning will be local elections in may. a lot will depend on that, i think. but the other thing to say is that the conservative party in general is nervous because they're looking down the line at the next general election, and they're just general election, and they�* re just wondering general election, and they're just wondering what christians will they be answering on the doorstep. and if this isn't cleared up, then i think it be sticky. this isn't cleared up, then i think it be sticky-— it be sticky. dominic cummings, revenue it be sticky. dominic cummings, revenge is a _ it be sticky. dominic cummings, revenge is a dish _ it be sticky. dominic cummings, revenge is a dish best _ it be sticky. dominic cummings, revenge is a dish best served i it be sticky. dominic cummings, i revenge is a dish best served cold, i think. on the evidence of today's performance in the house, borisjohnson is a political gambler tying his future as prime minister directly to the findings of the official inquiry, which will report next week. sir keir starmer reminded him several times that ministers who are found to have misled parliament are expected to resign. but mrjohnson is playing for time, which means a lot of pressure now falls on the shoulders of the civil servant overseeing the investigation. all of that, as you know, is the subject of a proper investigation by sue gray. so have you already been interviewed by sue gray — and, if not, do you object to to her questioning you again about this? all that's subject for an investigation by sue gray. it's absolutely right that the prime minister moved swiftly to commission that independent inquiry by miss gray. and all i ask is that sue gray be allowed to complete her inquiry into that day and several others so that the full facts can be established. let's bring in caroline slocock, the first woman to serve as a private secretary in number ten, working for two conservative prime ministers — margaret thatcher and john major. she is the first woman to hold that position. thanks for being with us. i read today that in the nineteen eighties, sue grey paused her stellar civil service career to buy a pub in ireland in the midst of the troubles. so that tells me she's no pushover, am i right? she troubles. so that tells me she's no pushover, am i right?— pushover, am i right? she could lavishly pull— pushover, am i right? she could lavishly pull a — pushover, am i right? she could lavishly pull a point, _ pushover, am i right? she could lavishly pull a point, as - pushover, am i right? she could lavishly pull a point, as well. - pushover, am i right? she could lavishly pull a point, as well. i. lavishly pull a point, as well. i haven't met a person — and she has a formidable reputation, and i think people hold her in high regard — but i think she's even the best person, the best civil servant in this position who will really struggle with this particular task. because it is not the job of civil servants to embarrass their ministers. trio. to embarrass their ministers. no, she will be _ to embarrass their ministers. no, she will be aware _ to embarrass their ministers. no, she will be aware that she has the reputation of the prime minister and senior civil servants serving and perhaps her office, in her hands. and that's a difficult position to be in. ,, �* , , and that's a difficult position to bein.,, ,., ., and that's a difficult position to bein. ,, ,., ., ., be in. she's built her reputation on bein: be in. she's built her reputation on being tough _ be in. she's built her reputation on being tough on _ be in. she's built her reputation on being tough on damien _ be in. she's built her reputation on being tough on damien green - be in. she's built her reputation on being tough on damien green and| being tough on damien green and andrew mitchell on plate gate, if you recall. but she was investigating on behalf of the prime minister, and she was reporting back to the prime minister who, in those two cases, took some pretty tough decisions. political careers were halted. ., �* , ., decisions. political careers were halted. , ., , decisions. political careers were halted. ., �* , ., , , halted. you've been a very senile democrat senior _ halted. you've been a very senile democrat senior civil _ halted. you've been a very senile democrat senior civil servant- i halted. you've been a very senile . democrat senior civil servant- would democrat senior civil servant— would you say that it would've been better to get a judge to look at this? i to get a judge to look at this? i think certainly an independent person, whether it's a judge or someone else, would have been better. and a natural person would have been the ministerial adviser —— adviser on ministerial standards. but he's already highlighted that his powers aren't strong enough, really, to look into the dealings of the prime minister, and he's holding out now for some better powers, statutory footing to initiate investigations, his report is being published promptly. so he's in trouble even when he's outside the civil service. sue grey is working for the prime minister, she's working for simon case, who had to recuse himself, and the prime minister — and her report and findings will certainly be pored over by those people, and they'll be given the opportunity to defend. it's very difficult for her, what will she do? her only tool really is to resign, which i think is very difficult. ~ ., ., ., difficult. we have to leave it there, thank _ difficult. we have to leave it there, thank you, _ difficult. we have to leave it there, thank you, we - difficult. we have to leave it there, thank you, we are . difficult. we have to leave it - there, thank you, we are almost out of time. ijust there, thank you, we are almost out of time. i just want to finish with you, pippa, on this thought — is there more to come? sarah has already pointed out that dominic cummings will give up, can you give us an answer on that? i cummings will give up, can you give us an answer on that?— us an answer on that? i don't think cummings — us an answer on that? i don't think cummings is the _ us an answer on that? i don't think cummings is the only _ us an answer on that? i don't think cummings is the only source - us an answer on that? i don't think cummings is the only source of. cummings is the only source of these things _ cummings is the only source of these things he _ cummings is the only source of these things. he certainly wasn't my source — things. he certainly wasn't my source as— things. he certainly wasn't my source. as you know, he and i don't have _ source. as you know, he and i don't have the _ source. as you know, he and i don't have the best — source. as you know, he and i don't have the best relationships after our bernard castle revelations. but i rememberthat our bernard castle revelations. but i remember that first story i did, speaking — i remember that first story i did, speaking to lots of people who said there _ speaking to lots of people who said there was— speaking to lots of people who said there was a culture at number ten. so it wouldn't surprise me if there are more — so it wouldn't surprise me if there are more revelations to come, or pictures— are more revelations to come, or pictures of— are more revelations to come, or pictures of the garden party that's under discussion just now. pictures of the garden party that's under discussionjust now. that will make _ under discussionjust now. that will make numberten very under discussionjust now. that will make number ten very anxious as it waits— make number ten very anxious as it waits for— make number ten very anxious as it waits for the — make number ten very anxious as it waits for the sucre inquiry probably next week — waits for the sucre inquiry probably next week. ~ ., , . , next week. more pictures in the wins next week. more pictures in the wings perhaps. _ next week. more pictures in the wings perhaps, we _ next week. more pictures in the wings perhaps, we will - next week. more pictures in the wings perhaps, we will see - next week. more pictures in the wings perhaps, we will see you. next week. more pictures in the - wings perhaps, we will see you. stay with us, we have more on prince andrew and russia and nato talking in brussels. hello there. for many of us, it wasn't a bad day today. we saw quite a bit of sunshine around. there was more cloud around, though, across scotland, more of a breeze here as well. for the next few days, certainly for the foreseeable future, high pressure is going to dominate the scene, so we will see a lot of dry and settled weather, but frost and dense fog is going to become a problem over the next few days, especially across england and wales. the fog patches will start developing through the overnight period, more extensive than we had the last couple of nights, and it will be cold where skies are clear as well. generally a cold, frosty night across the south. further north, more of a breeze, more cloud. less cold here — temperatures maybe 3—7 celsius for stornoway. our area of high pressure is with us for thursday. you can see more isobars across the north of the country, so here it will remain breezy. but barely any wind further south. that fog to start with, could be really quite dense in places, could cause issues to travel, and some of it may even linger on throughout the whole day. should clear for many. we should see some sunshine here. another fine day for many places that see that sunshine. some sunshine for parts of northern ireland, cloudier, breezy conditions for the northwest of scotland. temperatures, double figure values in the north, around 6—8 celsius in the south, but where the fog lingers, struggling to get much above freezing. we can see those temperatures around the seasonal norm as we head on into friday, keeping the very cold weather out at bay, all thanks to this area of high pressure which is pretty much sitting across england and wales. again, with light winds, we're going to start with that mist and fog for friday morning, some of it really quite dense and quite extensive once again. a bit more cloud for scotland and northern ireland, but where the fog lifts for england and wales, we should see some sunshine breaking through and temperatures again 5—8 celsius. colder where the fog lingers, 10 degrees for the far northwest of scotland. fog may become a problem over the next few days, could be dense and stubborn to clear. likely cause some disruption to travel. so stay tuned to bbc local radio or subs weather forecasts. and then, into the weekend, largely fine and settled thanks to the high pressure. chance of a few showers. most places will stay dry. hello, i'm christian fraser. you're watching context on bbc news — prince andrew faces a civil trial in the united states over accusations of sexual assault — after a judge refuses to dismiss it. virginia giuffree is suing the duke of york, claiming he abused her when she was 17 — allegations he strenuously denies. nato warns there's still a real risk of armed conflict in europe, after talks with russia end with significant differences unresolved. it should be allowed to happen and they don't want it to happen again. i wanted to .net the only way as socket have to again is you have to solve... �* ., socket have to again is you have to solve... �* . , ., , ., , solve... and after years of trying to net an solve... and after years of trying to get an interview— solve... and after years of trying to get an interview with - solve... and after years of trying to get an interview with donald l to get an interview with donald trump it ended up coming to an abrupt end. trump it ended up coming to an abrupt end. tonight with the context, daily mail columnist sarah vine and political editor of the daily mirror, pippa crerar. prince andrew will face a civil case in the united states over allegations he sexually assaulted a woman when she was 17. virginia giuffre is suing the prince, claiming he abused her in 2001. an allegation he has strenously denied. his lawyers had argued, the case in new york should be thrown out, citing a 2009 settlement which she signed with the convicted sex offenderjeffrey epstein. but today in a sternly worded 46—page ruling, thejudge lewis kaplan, said the earlier settlement did not apply to the duke and york and the defendents motion to dismiss the complaint. was denied in all respects. and so the prince is left with three options — he could settle out of court paying possibly a substantial sum of money without no admission of liability. he could default, ignore the case entirely and by default they would then find against him. or he could fight it out, but that would mean a deposition under oath, rival stories would be tested, and the matter eventually decided in open court. let's discuss what this all means for prince andrew and the case itself with moira penza, a former federal prosecutor, who also served in new york's eastern district. a new york's eastern district. settlement if i'm right to a settlement if i'm right needs two to tango. she doesn't have to was settled, thejunior to tango. she doesn't have to was settled, the junior giuffre, to tango. she doesn't have to was settled, thejunior giuffre, does settled, the junior giuffre, does she? settled, the “unior giuffre, does she? ~ ., settled, the “unior giuffre, does she? ~ . ., settled, the “unior giuffre, does she? . . ., , ., settled, the “unior giuffre, does she? . ., , ., ., she? what we have seen a more of these cases — she? what we have seen a more of these cases is _ she? what we have seen a more of these cases is a _ she? what we have seen a more of these cases is a lot _ she? what we have seen a more of these cases is a lot of _ she? what we have seen a more of these cases is a lot of women - she? what we have seen a more of these cases is a lot of women who | these cases is a lot of women who are now bringing claims based on sexual abuse as minors are really looking to have their day in court. now virginia giuffre has settled in the past, she settled withjeffrey epstein, we know that because of 2009. and depending on herfeelings toward that settlement, what happened, that it really have a big impact here as to whether she is even willing to entertain a settlement in this case. i even willing to entertain a settlement in this case. i suppose a lot is left to — settlement in this case. i suppose a lot is left to workout. _ settlement in this case. i suppose a lot is left to workout. because - lot is left to workout. because court cases are very expensive. whether a settlement is the better way to go. in the meantime, we are going to pretrial discovery. what happens there, what is the prince have to do? de happens there, what is the prince have to do?— have to do? de discovery in the united states _ have to do? de discovery in the united states is _ have to do? de discovery in the united states is a _ have to do? de discovery in the united states is a very - have to do? de discovery in thel united states is a very extensive process. it costs a lot of money. that's why you really saw this initial attempt to dismiss the case without having to go through the process. now prudence andrew will have to sit for a deposition as well —— prince andrew. as well as michael whaen and other witnesses. there are very limited rules as to topics that are off limits. you basically can ask any question as long as it is not something that is covered by the attorney—client privilege. this is a really arduous process for litigants at this point. in addition were going to see document discovery, both sides requesting documents. there's going to be requests certainly for her medical records, travel records as well as other forms of written discovery. there's often a lot of litigation during this process where we may see filings from either side moving to compel the other side to do certain things or to prevent them from doing certain things. things or to prevent them from doing certain things-— certain things. sarah, this would be the most sensational— certain things. sarah, this would be the most sensational child. - certain things. sarah, this would be the most sensational child. there i certain things. sarah, this would be i the most sensational child. there is no way given how sensational it would be that prince andrew is going to go to america and give evidence. i don't think he will go to america. i don't think he will go to america. i suppose — i don't think he will go to america. i suppose the question i have is, the other— i suppose the question i have is, the other person describes sounds like a _ the other person describes sounds like a trial— the other person describes sounds like a trial without a jury. i'm not sure _ like a trial without a jury. i'm not sure i_ like a trial without a jury. i'm not sure i really— like a trial without a jury. i'm not sure i really understand what that is. i sure i really understand what that is i don't— sure i really understand what that is. i don't want to sign the back understand _ is. i don't want to sign the back understand why the princes lawyers are trying to get these things move to the _ are trying to get these things move to the uk — are trying to get these things move to the uk. the alleged incident took place _ to the uk. the alleged incident took place in _ to the uk. the alleged incident took place in the uk. i don't understand why he _ place in the uk. i don't understand why he is— place in the uk. i don't understand why he is called to america. i don't understand — why he is called to america. i don't understand-— understand. no “uries sits in a civil case h understand. no “uries sits in a civil case like _ understand. no “uries sits in a civil case like it — understand. no juries sits in a civil case like it they _ understand. no juries sits in a civil case like it they moved i understand. no juries sits in a i civil case like it they moved to understand. no juries sits in a - civil case like it they moved to the uk? ., �* , ., , ., , civil case like it they moved to the uk? ., �*, ., , ., , ., uk? that's not true. this would be a 'u trial. uk? that's not true. this would be a jury trial- and _ uk? that's not true. this would be a jury trial. and so civil— uk? that's not true. this would be a jury trial. and so civil cases - jury trial. and so civil cases absolutely are tried to juries in this country. there can be sometimes where they are tried two judges, those are called bench trials. but the default is that you would be entitled to a trial byjury. this is always the process. there is always the process in a civil case of having discovery at the outset. and there are different other procedural mechanisms. as to why this is in the united states, ms. giuffre has laid out allegations that this did have a nexus to the southern district of new york where the case was being brought. certain actions did take place within new york and so that is why that's an appropriate venue here. and that would not... one of the basis of dismissing the case the question is, the queens going into the platinumjubilee. to question is, the queens going into the platinum jubilee.— question is, the queens going into the platinum jubilee. to be have a cli? i the platinum jubilee. to be have a clip? lthink— the platinum jubilee. to be have a clip? i think we _ the platinum jubilee. to be have a clip? i think we have _ the platinum jubilee. to be have a clip? i think we have a _ the platinum jubilee. to be have a clip? i think we have a clip - the platinum jubilee. to be have a clip? i think we have a clip of - clip? i think we have a clip of prince andrew talking to news night in that famous interview. he is asked whether it's overshadowed things for the queen. and this is what he said what's up have a listen. i don't believe it's been damaging to the cleaned it all. it has to me. if i was in a position to be able to answer with sensible answers other than the ones that i gave that gave closure then add love it. but i'm afraid i can't. because i'm just as much in the dark as anybody. he’s much in the dark as anybody. he's duties, much in the dark as anybody. he's duties. he — much in the dark as anybody. he's duties, he still— much in the dark as anybody. he's duties, he still colonel— much in the dark as anybody. he's duties, he still colonel the grenadier years. duties, he still colonel the grenadieryears. do duties, he still colonel the grenadier years. do you think that they will put him somewhere while they will put him somewhere while thejubilee year is underway. will he retire from public service? he temporarily has, effectively, hasn't he? while — temporarily has, effectively, hasn't he? while the _ temporarily has, effectively, hasn't he? while the clean _ temporarily has, effectively, hasn'tl he? while the clean understandably will have _ he? while the clean understandably will have a — he? while the clean understandably will have a natural— he? while the clean understandably will have a natural instinct - he? while the clean understandably will 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line duties is on the cards. i we will leave that they are. thank you for bringing us up to date with the way this will work in new york. good to get your expertise. the united states and nato have rejected today the demands that russia put down for easing the tensions over ukraine. the meeting in brussels, the first of its kind in two years, ended without any agreements, but the alliance held out the offer of future talks on arms control, missile deployments and military exercises. there are concerns in europe that in setting unrealistic demands, russia is using these talks as a pretext for war. around 100,000 russian troops are still massed on the border with ukraine. on monday — in what was a strangely worded statement — the russian foreign ministry insisted there were no plans, no intentions to "attack" ukraine. attack was put in quotes. and it was pre—empted, with a list of demands. president putin wants nato to pull its forces out of the former soviet countries, and to rule out the possibility ukraine will everjoin the alliance. nato's secretary general says the two sides have significant differences, but the door remain open. it's not possible to say anything with certainty on the likelihood of conflict. what i do know is there's a real risk for renewed use of force against ukraine. that's exactly why the meeting today was important. because we believe in political path that we engage in good faith and sit down and ukraine to find a peaceful way forward. and ukraine to find a peaceful way forward. admiraljames stavridis is a retired united states navy admiral and joins us from jacksonville, florida. lovely to see you. essentially, russia was a veto on all nato's activities in europe, that's a nonstarter, quite plainly. so what we doinu nonstarter, quite plainly. so what we doing here? _ nonstarter, quite plainly. so what we doing here? we _ nonstarter, quite plainly. so what we doing here? we are _ nonstarter, quite plainly. so what we doing here? we are going - nonstarter, quite plainly. so what we doing here? we are going to l nonstarter, quite plainly. so what i we doing here? we are going to put nonstarter, quite plainly. so what - we doing here? we are going to put a few things on the table. let's face it, this is a negotiation that is really more like a hostage situation in which ukraine is the hostage, russia has put a gun to the head of the hostage and says it will shoot the hostage and says it will shoot the hostage and says it will shoot the hostage unless we negotiate. so we are not to offer a heck of a lot on this one. i think your setup is correct was up there are some things we can discuss about exercises, balance on both sides of these borders, nato and russia's. about missile deployment, perhaps missile defence systems in eastern europe. there are some things that can be discussed. but yes, the idea of russia gaining a veto of a nato membership is preposterous. and it won't happen. the membership is preposterous. and it won't happen-— won't happen. the nato treaty of course keeps _ won't happen. the nato treaty of course keeps the _ won't happen. the nato treaty of course keeps the door _ won't happen. the nato treaty of course keeps the door open - won't happen. the nato treaty of course keeps the door open for. won't happen. the nato treaty of - course keeps the door open for other countries tojoin. course keeps the door open for other countries to join. the deputy secretary of state was asked about that today. this is what she said. collectively we are preparing for every eventuality. we have made it clear and we told the russians directly again today, that if russia further invades ukraine there will be significant costs and consequences well beyond what they faced in 2014. did given assurance to ukraine and georgia but in 2008 that they would be able to join nato. no georgia but in 2008 that they would be able tojoin nato. no one really think that's a good idea. but no it's good to put it in black and white, are they a? i it's good to put it in black and white, are they a?— white, are they a? i don't think ou'll white, are they a? i don't think you'll see _ white, are they a? i don't think you'll see it — white, are they a? i don't think you'll see it written _ white, are they a? i don't think you'll see it written down. - white, are they a? i don't think you'll see it written down. butl white, are they a? i don't think. you'll see it written down. but the real issue here, by the way you mentioned the nato treaty, i encourage viewers to actually read it. it's only 14 articles long, it's 28 sentences long, it's eight model of elegance and sensibility. and it maintains an open door. i would say what vladimir putin is doing here is a real strategic failure on his part as follows — the more he pushes honest i think the more likely it is that ultimately ukraine and georgia may have a path to membership. but i'll tell you it's quite interesting to me is what our opinion to finland and sweden going to do? for both of where we see polls, those two nations joining where we see polls, those two nationsjoining nato. so vladimir putin may end up with a much more worse situation that he started. i think we have a map of nato's positions in europe which is worth looking at. it shows you how big nato's footprint is across the continent. i guess these baltic states that were looking at, they're not there to be in support of nato pulling back from the front here when there's 100,000 troops on ukraine's border. when there's100,000 troops on ukraine's border.— when there's100,000 troops on ukraine's border. right? exactly. alain, ukraine's border. right? exactly. again. vladimir— ukraine's border. right? exactly. again, vladimir putin _ ukraine's border. right? exactly. again, vladimir putin may - ukraine's border. right? exactly. again, vladimir putin may fancy. again, vladimir putin may fancy himself a very clever tactician but he's failing as a strategist here. he's going to push more nations into the alliance, ischemic create alliance solidarity. ultimately, if he invades ukraine you watch those nato forces load up on his borders, exactly what he doesn't want. the de - u exactly what he doesn't want. the deputy foreign minister of russia did speak after they left brussels today, he looks at that map and he says nato is all about threatening russia. translation: the main task of nato policy and military i deployment is to deter russia. and enormous resources are being allocated for this purpose. they don't conceal that this is the alliances main purpose. from its always been that way, hasn't it? this was established pretty much after the fall of the soviet union. is the footprint of nato any bigger than it was at the end of the war?— end of the war? slightly. we've added a few _ end of the war? slightly. we've added a few nations _ end of the war? slightly. we've added a few nations in - end of the war? slightly. we've added a few nations in the - end of the war? slightly. we've - added a few nations in the balkans. not exactly powerhouses but montenegro, north macedonia have joined. here's the point, for the russians to say they are threatened by nato when they are the ones who have invaded georgia, invaded ukraine in 2014, they hold a chunk of a small country called mould over, they are the ones who are consistently sending their troops into other nations often without consent. so i think the history here pretty much favours the nato position which is, we are not here to invade you but you are showing us a propensity to do so therefore we have to be prepared.— have to be prepared. thank you for cominu onto the program. standoff. but there may be help at hand because liz truss, foreign secretary here has said that she's heading off to moscow next month. is that a good idea, is i can make the difference to what's going on, the dispute of the ukraine?— the ukraine? well, this trip has been confirmed _ the ukraine? well, 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certainly a very— to tread very gently here. certainly a very fragile — to tread very gently here. certainly a very fragile situation. _ to tread very gently here. certainly a very fragile situation. it’s - to tread very gently here. certainly a very fragile situation.— a very fragile situation. it's a aood a very fragile situation. it's a good photo _ a very fragile situation. it's a good photo up _ a very fragile situation. it's a good photo up though. - a very fragile situation. it's a good photo up though. if- a very fragile situation. it's a i good photo up though. if there a very fragile situation. it's a - good photo up though. if there is going to be a leadership battle and you there standing next to president putin, could be any better. note am worried about? i worried they're going to say, look, there's nothing to worry about from nato, were not expanding to the baltic frontier. and you know which picture they can bring up, they can bring up this picture of liz truss in a tank in estonia heading towards russia. that's what they're gonna do. that's what i was gonna _ that's what they're gonna do. that's what i was gonna say. _ that's what they're gonna do. that's what i was gonna say. she _ that's what they're gonna do. that's what i was gonna say. she doesn't i what i was gonna say. she doesn't have to _ what i was gonna say. she doesn't have to be — what i was gonna say. she doesn't have to be straddling _ what i was gonna say. she doesn't have to be straddling large - what i was gonna say. she doesn't have to be straddling large metall have to be straddling large metal objects was— have to be straddling large metal objects was up _ have to be straddling large metal objects was up she _ have to be straddling large metal objects was up she did _ have to be straddling large metal objects was up she did one, - have to be straddling large metal objects was up she did one, i- have to be straddling large metal. objects was up she did one, i think it was— 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but i do think _ opportunity for her. but i do think i_ opportunity for her. but i do think... i don't know, i wouldn't underestimate putin, he's got a nice piece _ underestimate putin, he's got a nice piece of— underestimate putin, he's got a nice piece of work, was already did in salisbury. — piece of work, was already did in salisbury, demand is a play by the rules. _ salisbury, demand is a play by the rules. let's— salisbury, demand is a play by the rules, let's be honest. no. salisbury, demand is a play by the rules, let's be honest.— rules, let's be honest. no. ithink that isfair— rules, let's be honest. no. ithink that is fair to _ rules, let's be honest. no. ithink that is fair to say _ rules, let's be honest. no. ithink that is fair to say for _ rules, let's be honest. no. ithink that is fair to say for the - rules, let's be honest. no. ithink that is fair to say for the the - that is fair to say for the the ukrainians would quite agree with that. now... increasingly donald trump is trying out other outlets. the not—for—profit national public radio or npr has been bidding for an interview on successive levered seven years. rather like us. mr trump is rather relented that he wish he didn't. the question on republicans distancing himself from him and that election. why is it that you think the vast majority of your allies in the united states senators are not standing behind you? we did have that statement by mike rollins. because mitch mcconnell is a loser. when npr's steven inskeep continued to press him about the election, this is how the conversation ended. it shouldn't be allowed to happen and they don't want it to happen again. iwant to... the only way is not can happen again is, you have to solve the problem of the presidentially rigged election of 2020. so, steve thank you very much. one more question, i want to ask about a court hearing yesterday on january six, thejudge — he's gone, okay. too late, too late. let's bring in our senior north america reporter, anthony zurcher. it's an extraordinary tactic when his interview, he literally bombards the interviewer, bamboozled them. with a number of facts that actually don't back up or bear relation to the facts without most of them just gets off by it. actually steve to keep at it. the big equation i think is is he right? are some of the republicans now starting to ask bigger questions about what president trump is saying? well, that mike rollins _ president trump is saying? well, that mike rollins statement - president trump is saying? -ii that mike rollins statement that he referenced there, all my role and said, the senator from referenced there, all my role and said, the senatorfrom south dakota was thatjoe biden won the 2020 election. and that prompted donald trump to issue yet another one of these overheated press releases attacking mike rounds. i think it reflects a sensitivity donald trump as to some members of the republican party perhaps starting to try to get some daylight between him and them. because they see donald trump i think, as a detriment in the midterm elections are coming up this november. republicans have the political wind at their back here. they have an unpopular president right now, they're in the minority so they can make the case that they need to come back into power. the last thing they want is trump meddling and speaking up and becoming the new story because that distracts from their message. it also will activate the democratic base and get them out to vote. so i think they are starting to sense that they need to have some space. peppa, let's face it, the mirror is behind npr. you like it an interview. do you fancy a, would you like to interview him?— like to interview him? sorry, go on. of course but _ like to interview him? sorry, go on. of course but i _ like to interview him? sorry, go on. of course but i think _ like to interview him? sorry, go on. of course but i think he _ like to interview him? sorry, go on. of course but i 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house and - today. he was making to the public outside the white house and there| outside the white house and there was that— outside the white house and there was that awful _ outside the white house and there was that awful riot _ outside the white house and there was that awful riot which _ outside the white house and there was that awful riot which he - outside the white house and there was that awful riot which he was i was that awful riot which he was impeached — was that awful riot which he was impeached over. _ was that awful riot which he was impeached over. he _ was that awful riot which he was impeached over. he potentiallyl was that awful riot which he was. impeached over. he potentially is was that awful riot which he was i impeached over. he potentially is a dangerous— impeached over. he potentially is a dangerous figure _ impeached over. he potentially is a dangerous figure in _ impeached over. he potentially is a dangerous figure in american - dangerous figure in american politics _ dangerous figure in american politics he's— dangerous figure in american politics. he's not— dangerous figure in american politics. he's not planning. dangerous figure in american politics. he's not planning oni dangerous figure in american - politics. he's not planning on going away— politics. he's not planning on going away anytime — politics. he's not planning on going away anytime soon. _ politics. he's not planning on going away anytime soon. i— politics. he's not planning on going away anytime soon. idon't- politics. he's not planning on going away anytime soon. i don't think i away anytime soon. i don't think republicans _ away anytime soon. i don't think republicans do _ away anytime soon. idon't think republicans do think— away anytime soon. i don't thinkl republicans do think republicans away anytime soon. i don't think - republicans do think republicans are right _ republicans do think republicans are right i— republicans do think republicans are riht, , , republicans do think republicans are riuht. , , ., right. i suppose it will depend on what comes _ right. i suppose it will depend on what comes of _ right. i suppose it will depend on what comes of the _ right. i suppose it will depend on what comes of the generous - right. i suppose it will depend on what comes of the generous six l right. i suppose it will depend on | what comes of the generous six in korea whether there is a criminal charge at the end of it. they've subpoenaed three more people. one of them is the person that wrote his speech onjanuary them is the person that wrote his speech on january six, the them is the person that wrote his speech onjanuary six, the speech that he gave at the ellipse. i5 speech on january six, the speech that he gave at the ellipse. is that important? _ that he gave at the ellipse. is that important? because _ that he gave at the ellipse. is that important? because that - that he gave at the ellipse. is that important? because that speech l that he gave at the ellipse. is that i important? because that speech has been cited as one of the reasons why the people who are at the ellipse for that stop the steel rally marched down pennsylvania avenue and stormed the capital. some of them stormed the capital. some of them storm the capital. they want to see what sort of knowledge but into that speech, what sort of thinking went behind some of that language to fight and to be brave and all of those lives at donald trump used. they were cited during the impeachment trial and they want to get at the motivation behind it and what kind of knowledge they may have been that there was a potential for violence. a, ~ �* been that there was a potential for violence. . �* ., ~ been that there was a potential for violence. . �* ., ,, ., violence. okay. we've talked about really serious _ violence. okay. we've talked about really serious things _ violence. okay. we've talked about really serious things tonight. - violence. okay. we've talked about really serious things tonight. so - really serious things tonight. so let's get to the nitty—gritty. the real story that i want to talk about tonight. it's the new bar, venue 45 in trump tower in new york. which openedin in trump tower in new york. which opened in november. there is a cocktail, it's called number 45 as in the 45 president. it is of course $45. it comes with two small hamburgers. sorry, i nearly said two small hands. two small hamburgers and a diet coke. what do you think is in the 45, what is the kids made with? �* , ., is in the 45, what is the kids made with? �*, ., ., ., , with? it's an orange. it must presumably _ with? it's an orange. it must presumably contain a - with? it's an orange. it must presumably contain a lot - with? it's an orange. it must presumably contain a lot of. with? it's an orange. it must - presumably contain a lot of alcohol. it is presumably contain a lot of alcohol. it is not _ presumably contain a lot of alcohol. it is not that any fans are in it, wronu. �* ., p it is not that any fans are in it, wronu.�* ., p h it is not that any fans are in it, wronup ., �*, ., it is not that any fans are in it, wron_�* ., �*, ., it is not that any fans are in it, wronu. ., wrong. anthony? it's a whisky bar so i'll sa whisky and it and... you are a trained observer. it does. it i whisky and it and... you are a i trained observer. it does. it has wine and whiskey. what about the floaters, what you think the floaters, what you think the floaters has got in a? something ve ve floaters has got in a? something very very icy. — floaters has got in a? something very very icy. lots _ floaters has got in a? something very very icy, lots of _ floaters has got in a? something very very icy, lots of eyes. - floaters has got in a? something very very icy, lots of eyes. lots i floaters has got in a? somethingl very very icy, lots of eyes. lots of ice, ve very very icy, lots of eyes. lots of ice. very drive- — very very icy, lots of eyes. lots of ice, very drive. i'll— very very icy, lots of eyes. lots of ice, very drive. i'll give _ very very icy, lots of eyes. lots of ice, very drive. i'll give you - ice, very drive. i'll give you another clue. it's ever so slightly distilled. . another clue. it's ever so slightly distilled.- n _ another clue. it's ever so slightly distilled.- n is _ another clue. it's ever so slightly distilled.- it is a _ another clue. it's ever so slightly distilled. jen? it is a jen. another clue. it's ever so slightly distilled. jen? it is ajen. it's another clue. it's ever so slightly distilled. jen? it is a jen. it's a white wine _ distilled. jen? it is a jen. it's a white wine and _ distilled. jen? it is a jen. it's a white wine and agn _ distilled. isi it is a jen. it's a white wine and agn ensemble. that is only $29. it's only the 45 that is so expensive. but i want to know, do you have any pictures of your self sarah, at home? pictures of you on your mantelpiece? ida. sarah, at home? pictures of you on your mantelpiece?— your mantelpiece? no, no i hate that. i your mantelpiece? no, no i hate that- ldo- _ your mantelpiece? no, no i hate that- l do- i— your mantelpiece? no, no i hate that. ido. i have _ your mantelpiece? no, no i hate that. i do. i have so _ your mantelpiece? no, no i hate that. i do. i have so many - your mantelpiece? no, no i hate i that. i do. i have so many pictures of myself- — that. i do. i have so many pictures of myself- i— that. i do. i have so many pictures of myself. i wonder _ that. i do. i have so many pictures of myself. i wonder what - that. i do. i have so many pictures of myself. i wonder what it - that. i do. i have so many pictures of myself. i wonder what it says i of myself. i wonder what it says about donald trump that there are 39 pictures of him, 39 pictures of him in this bar. what does that say about him? i in this bar. what does that say about him?— in this bar. what does that say about him? ., ., ., . ., about him? i have no idea. what could possibly — about him? i have no idea. what could possibly say, _ about him? i have no idea. what could possibly say, christian? i. could possibly say, christian? i love it — could possibly say, christian? i love it. ~ ., ., ., could possibly say, christian? i loveit. ~ .., ., . ., , could possibly say, christian? i loveit. ~ .., . . . , ., love it. megalomaniac, clearly. you think? what — love it. megalomaniac, clearly. you think? what do — love it. megalomaniac, clearly. you think? what do you _ love it. megalomaniac, clearly. you think? what do you think— love it. megalomaniac, clearly. you think? what do you think anthony? | think? what do you think anthony? i'm not surprised at all. remember this is a man who had a framed picture of him on the cover of time magazine hanging in his newjersey golf club when he hadn't even been on the cover of time magazine yet. i think there's a certain amount of egocentric perhaps. idistill think there's a certain amount of egocentric perhaps.— think there's a certain amount of egocentric perhaps. will you go to the bar? may _ egocentric perhaps. will you go to the bar? may is— egocentric perhaps. will you go to the bar? may is manifesting. - egocentric perhaps. will you go to l the bar? may is manifesting. maybe he is. the bar? may is manifesting. maybe he is- would — the bar? may is manifesting. maybe he is. would you _ the bar? may is manifesting. maybe he is. would you go _ the bar? may is manifesting. maybe he is. would you go to _ the bar? may is manifesting. maybe he is. would you go to the - the bar? may is manifesting. maybe he is. would you go to the bar, - he is. would you go to the bar, anthony? is up the road from you? no, i'll be in new york this weekend maybe i'll go there and give you a report. maybe i'll go there and give you a re ort. �* . maybe i'll go there and give you a re ort. �* , , ., report. i'm 'ust feeding you the stories. report. i'm just feeding you the stories. have _ report. i'm just feeding you the stories. have a _ report. i'm just feeding you the stories. have a 45 _ report. i'm just feeding you the stories. have a 45 on _ report. i'm just feeding you the stories. have a 45 on me, - report. i'm just feeding you the - stories. have a 45 on me, anthony. just don't send me the check. it's been so good. peppa, i hope you can come back. it's been so interested in getting your thoughts this evening particularly on such a big news day here in the uk. thank you both very much for being with us. tomorrow is the turn of president transformer campaign advisor, and formal labour wasn't looking forward to bolt. we will see you tomorrow same time. bye—bye. hello there. there's a lot of benign weather in this ten—day forecast thanks to high pressure which is going to dominate the weather scene, bringing a lot of dry and settled weather, with some sunshine around, but we'll also have some frost and fog at night, particularly across england and wales, where the fog could be very dense, stubborn to clear, and could cause some issues over the next few days. so some disruption is possible. stay tuned to bbc local radio or to subsequent weather forecasts. and the reason for it is because of this large blocking area of high pressure. very light winds across the south of the country, a bit more of a breeze further north, so here we won't have any problems with fog. some cloud around, one or two showers, otherwise largely dry. we start off with dense fog patches across parts of england and wales tomorrow morning, some of it stubborn to clear, and if it does linger around, its going to feel very cold indeed. winds will be light — no wind at all, really, to speak of to shift that fog, whereas further north will have more of a breeze, those mean wind—speed gusts could be a little bit higher. but it's milder here, 10—11 celsius. further south, where the sunshine comes out, 6—8 celsius, colder than that where we hold on to the fog. the fog re—forms again as we move through thursday night, could be quite dense and extensive once again. bit more of a breeze. some showery bursts of rain for the far north of scotland, tied in with this weather front. but it's high pressure dominating the scene. as we head on into friday, you can see very few isobars around, so it's going to be a really foggy one to start friday morning, and again some of that fog really dense in places — could cause some trouble with travel, roads and airports in fact. could see a bit more cloud around generally on friday across the north of the country, the odd shower. most places, though, will be dry. now, where you have the sunshine, it will feel quite pleasant, but where the fog lingers temperatures may struggle to get much above freezing, so it will be grey, foggy and cold all day. but these are the sorts of temperatures we'll see when the sunshine comes out — range from 5—9 celsius, again 10 celsius there for stornoway. for the weekend, then, little change. it's going to be mostly dry and settled, thanks to the high pressure. could start to see some lower pressure or a few weather fronts pushing in from the west, and this could bring one or two showers mainly to north—western parts of the country, so this is the pressure set—up for saturday. you can see many places starting dry again. there could be some mist and fog around across england and wales. variable amounts of cloud, some sunshine, just the chance of a few showers getting into western areas later on. i think most places should stay dry throughout the day. temperatures around the seasonal norm, 5—8 celsius. this weather front could bring more showery rain to the north and west of the country through sunday, so i think sunday looking like being probably the better chance of catching some showers around, mainly in northern and western areas. i think largely dry further east. variable cloud, some spells of sunshine, and again, temperatures around the seasonal norm, i think topping out at around 8—9 for many. could see 10 celsius across the far south—west. now, beyond sunday into next week the outlook is for high pressure to dominate the scene once again, keeping weather fronts out at bay. so again with light winds we could see problems with mist and fog, and towards the end of next week, another area of high pressure moving down from the north—west. this could bring a colder influx of airfor a time across northern and eastern areas. but the temperatures i think will be flip—flopping at times. of course, it will feel colder where you hold on to mist and fog. this is the general outlook next week of weather. variable cloud, little bit of sunshine around, mist and fog could become a problem, and temperatures around the seasonal norm, could be colder at times. tonight at ten, for the first time, borisjohnson admits he did attend a drinks party at number ten during the first lockdown. he went to tell mps he regretted what happened, but he still insisted the gathering, in his view, was a work event. i regret the way the event i have described was handled. i bitterly regret it and wish that we could have done things differently, and i have and will continue to apologise for what we did. but many mps were incensed by the prime minister's suggestion that the gathering had been within the rules in a technical sense. the party's over, prime minister. the only question is, will the british public kick him out, will his party kick him out, or will he do the decent thing and resign? cheering

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prince andrew will face a civil trial in the united states over accusations of sexual assault. a new yorkjudge ruled his attempt to dismiss it was without merit. tonight with the context, daily mail columnist sarah vine and the political editor of the daily mirror, pippa crerar. hello, a warm welcome. for the first time, borisjohnson has admitted he did attend a downing st party during last years lockdown. and, for the first time, the leader of the opposition has called on him to resign. the prime minister urged all sides to await the findings of an internal inquiry led by the senior civil servant sue gray. but as far as lawbreaking goes, many would say he has already admitted, that his advisers — if not the prime minister himself — were in breach of laws, that many others have been fined for breaking. i thought it was a work event and, mr speaker, i regret very much that we did not do things differently that evening and, mr speaker, as i said, i take full responsibility and apologise, mr speaker. where that leaves the prime minister tonight, we will discuss in the next half hour — suffice to say, there are a number of conservative mp�*s now publically calling on him to go. in the next half hour — suffice to say, there are a number of conservative mp�*s now publically calling on him to go. we have the prime minister attending down parties in clear breach of rules — down parties in clear breach of rules we _ down parties in clear breach of rules. we have ridiculous denials which _ rules. we have ridiculous denials which he — rules. we have ridiculous denials which he knows are untrue. a clear breach— which he knows are untrue. a clear breach of— which he knows are untrue. a clear breach of the ministerial code. that code says _ breach of the ministerial code. that code says ministers who knowingly miss and _ code says ministers who knowingly miss and lead parliament are expected to offer the resignation —— mislead~ _ expected to offer the resignation —— mislead. the party's over, prime ministeh — mislead. the party's over, prime minister. the only question is, will the british— minister. the only question is, will the british public to come out? will his party— the british public to come out? will his party kick him out? or will he do the _ his party kick him out? or will he do the decent thing and resign? cheering. sarah, iwas sarah, i was reading your column, i'll put the headline up... where you so angry?— i'll put the headline up... where you so angry? well, number one, because it — you so angry? well, number one, because it was _ you so angry? well, number one, because it wasjust _ you so angry? well, number one, because it was just unnecessary l you so angry? well, number one, i because it wasjust unnecessary and because it was just unnecessary and stupid. nobody was having parties then, it wasn't what anyone was doing, and people were having a rough time. in the rules were so complicated and difficult, and confusing — there was a bit of insanity around at the time, everyone was just insanity around at the time, everyone wasjust under insanity around at the time, everyone was just under so much stress. so the idea that you'd have a bit of a party seemed kind of odd. but also, i think that in the wider sense, it's very frustrating because it almost eclipses all the good stuff that boris johnson has it almost eclipses all the good stuff that borisjohnson has done, in terms of the vaccine roll—out and getting us through this crisis. because now, he'll be remembered— he threw that all away for what, a couple glasses of warm white wine and nibbles? it'sjust infantile. does it go deeper than that? i want to spell this out for our world viewers, because they may not know your relationship to your now x democrat ex—husband, michael gove, who was at the time the cabinet secretary and he was setting rules and emphasising to all of us how important those rules were. given you were locked down with him and seeing first—hand the pressure and stress he was probably under, does it make you more angry? i stress he was probably under, does it make you more angry?— stress he was probably under, does it make you more angry? i mean, none of us left the — it make you more angry? i mean, none of us left the house _ it make you more angry? i mean, none of us left the house practically, - of us left the house practically, and he was here all the time, they were working constantly, seven days a week, and lists virtual calls, these terrible figures coming out, really scary stuff. i'm not dominic cummings, iwill get really scary stuff. i'm not dominic cummings, i will get you —— won't give you all the inside stuff. i just don't understand at one point anyone at number ten thought it would be ok to bend the rules for themselves? because the reason the rules are so strict was because there was a real fear that this thing could be completely out of control. i remember matt hancock talking about bodies piling up in the streets. they were really worried it was going to be a very serious catastrophe, and they felt they had no choice but to do this. i just don't understand — i saw people working as hard as they could in a very difficult situation, and the prime minister really did nearly die of covid, and hejust prime minister really did nearly die of covid, and he just got straight back to work. they were very, very determined — and itjust feels so stupid to have thrown it all away like this. i think that's my major frustration, it's been my very odd, unique point of view. if it frustration, it's been my very odd, unique point of view.— unique point of view. if it was a .a l unique point of view. if it was a party. which — unique point of view. if it was a party. which it— unique point of view. if it was a party, which it says _ unique point of view. if it was a party, which it says on - unique point of view. if it was a party, which it says on the - unique point of view. if it was a i party, which it says on the e-mail party, which it says on the e—mail that it was, and he attended it for 25 minutes — then many people around the country would take the view that he's broken the law and, in so doing, the implication is that he lied to the house. it's his position untenable?— lied to the house. it's his position untenable? , , , ., , ., untenable? this is the problem for him - really. _ untenable? this is the problem for him - really. i— untenable? this is the problem for him - really, i don't— untenable? this is the problem for him - really, i don't see _ untenable? this is the problem for him - really, i don't see how- untenable? this is the problem for him - really, i don't see how boris| him — really, i don't see how boris johnson _ him — really, i don't see how boris johnson could've said anything other than he did — johnson could've said anything other than he did in the house of commons today _ than he did in the house of commons today if— than he did in the house of commons today if he _ than he did in the house of commons today. if he had carried on hiding behind _ today. if he had carried on hiding behind the — today. if he had carried on hiding behind the inquiry, the lion of ministers _ behind the inquiry, the lion of ministers over the past 24 hours is that we _ ministers over the past 24 hours is that we need to wait for the results of the _ that we need to wait for the results of the inquiry over the next week or the week— of the inquiry over the next week or the week after this rate before they pronounce — the week after this rate before they pronounce any detail or give any explanation — then we would've had this void _ explanation — then we would've had this void filled by increasingly harrowing stories. people made themselves during the first lockdown, which sarah rightly said, was very— lockdown, which sarah rightly said, was very intense. and the public anger— was very intense. and the public anger mounted. tory mps will be feeling _ anger mounted. tory mps will be feeling that in their in boxes, in their— feeling that in their in boxes, in their constituency surgeries, and become — their constituency surgeries, and become even more mutinous than they clearly— become even more mutinous than they clearly already are. if he'd taken the other— clearly already are. if he'd taken the other option and put his hands up the other option and put his hands up and _ the other option and put his hands up and confessed, and said, you know. _ up and confessed, and said, you know. come _ up and confessed, and said, you know, come up with a credible excuse for attending the event and pretty much _ for attending the event and pretty much admitted that it was a party, as it said _ much admitted that it was a party, as it said on— much admitted that it was a party, as it said on the e—mail, given there — as it said on the e—mail, given there were _ as it said on the e—mail, given there were drinks and tables laden with food, — there were drinks and tables laden with food, people walking around with food, people walking around with glasses of wine rather than spreadsheets in the garden that day - then _ spreadsheets in the garden that day - then he _ spreadsheets in the garden that day — then he would be admitting both effectively that he'd broken the rules— effectively that he'd broken the rules and misled parliament, which are resigning matters. so he came up with an _ are resigning matters. so he came up with an incredible version of events suggesting that it was a work event — a suggesting that it was a work event - a trit— suggesting that it was a work event - a bit of— suggesting that it was a work event - a bit of a — suggesting that it was a work event — a bit of a fudge that buys some time _ — a bit of a fudge that buys some time until— — a bit of a fudge that buys some time until the inquiry next week, basically asking his backbenchers to be patient _ basically asking his backbenchers to be patient and to give him some time while _ be patient and to give him some time while still— be patient and to give him some time while still issuing an apology, albeit— while still issuing an apology, albeit not a personal one for his own actions. and i think that was really— own actions. and i think that was really only— own actions. and i think that was really only the only option he had available — really only the only option he had available to him. the really only the only option he had available to him.— the way this tends to work is that conservative mps would send a letter to the chair of the 1922 committee, calling for the pm to stand aside. we don't know how many letters have been sent, but 54 would trigger a vote. this was the conservative mp sir roger gail talking to the bbc earlier today — he has already submitted his letter calling for the pm to resign. the prime minister's put us in an impossible position. he's asking us to believe that there was some sort of bring—a—bottle work party in downing street, and he was there for 25 minutes. at the despatch box on the 8th of december, he said there was no party. he misled the house. all of the responses i've received from my constituents have been negative. i'm afraid they've lost their faith in mrjohnson, theyjust don't believe any more. —— believe him any more. and i think we've now got to the stage where the 1922 committee has to intervene. let's bring in shailesh vara, conservative mp for north west cambridgeshire. welcome to the programme. have you ever stood in a pub for 25 minutes and not know that you are standing in a pub? and not know that you are standing in a ub? and not know that you are standing ina ub? , ., in a pub? good evening, christian. no, i've in a pub? good evening, christian. no. we always — in a pub? good evening, christian. no, i've always known _ in a pub? good evening, christian. no, i've always known when - in a pub? good evening, christian. no, i've always known when i've i in a pub? good evening, christian. i no, i've always known when i've gone into a _ no, i've always known when i've gone into a pub _ no, i've always known when i've gone into a pub and — no, i've always known when i've gone into a pub and as— no, i've always known when i've gone into a pub. and as far— no, i've always known when i've gone into a pub. and as far as— no, i've always known when i've gone into a pub. and as far as today's - into a pub. and as far as today's concern, — into a pub. and as far as today's concern, i— into a pub. and as far as today's concern, i was _ into a pub. and as far as today's concern, i was in _ into a pub. and as far as today's concern, i was in the _ into a pub. and as far as today's i concern, i was in the chamber been the prime _ concern, i was in the chamber been the prime ministers— concern, i was in the chamber been the prime ministers book, - concern, i was in the chamber been the prime ministers book, i- concern, i was in the chamber been| the prime ministers book, ithought he gave _ the prime ministers book, ithought he gave a _ the prime ministers book, ithought he gave a very — the prime ministers book, ithought he gave a very heartfelt _ the prime ministers book, ithought he gave a very heartfelt a _ the prime ministers book, ithought he gave a very heartfelt a policy - the prime ministers book, ithought he gave a very heartfelt a policy —— i he gave a very heartfelt a policy —— apology _ he gave a very heartfelt a policy —— apology there _ he gave a very heartfelt a policy —— apology. there was _ he gave a very heartfelt a policy —— apology. there was due _ he gave a very heartfelt a policy ——| apology. there was due recognition of the _ apology. there was due recognition of the millions _ apology. there was due recognition of the millions and _ apology. there was due recognition of the millions and millions - apology. there was due recognition of the millions and millions of - of the millions and millions of people — of the millions and millions of people throughout _ of the millions and millions of people throughout the - of the millions and millions of| people throughout the country of the millions and millions of - people throughout the country who have suffered — people throughout the country who have suffered enormously- people throughout the country who have suffered enormously and - people throughout the country who. have suffered enormously and made hu-e have suffered enormously and made huge sacrifices, _ have suffered enormously and made huge sacrifices, unable _ have suffered enormously and made huge sacrifices, unable to— have suffered enormously and made huge sacrifices, unable to be - have suffered enormously and made huge sacrifices, unable to be with i huge sacrifices, unable to be with their— huge sacrifices, unable to be with their loved — huge sacrifices, unable to be with their loved ones— huge sacrifices, unable to be with their loved ones in— huge sacrifices, unable to be with their loved ones in their- huge sacrifices, unable to be with their loved ones in their last - their loved ones in their last moments _ their loved ones in their last moments or— their loved ones in their last moments or attend - their loved ones in their lasti moments or attend funerals, their loved ones in their last - moments or attend funerals, and so on. moments or attend funerals, and so on and _ moments or attend funerals, and so on and he — moments or attend funerals, and so on. and he rightfully— moments or attend funerals, and so on. and he rightfully recognised, i moments or attend funerals, and so on. and he rightfully recognised, as| on. and he rightfully recognised, as was referred — on. and he rightfully recognised, as was referred to _ on. and he rightfully recognised, as was referred to earlier— on. and he rightfully recognised, as was referred to earlier on _ on. and he rightfully recognised, as was referred to earlier on by- on. and he rightfully recognised, as was referred to earlier on by one i was referred to earlier on by one of your panelists, the rage _ was referred to earlier on by one of your panelists, the rage and - your panelists, the rage and angerm _ your panelists, the rage and men .. your panelists, the rage and anuer... , ., anger... he said he understood how millions of people _ anger... he said he understood how millions of people would _ anger... he said he understood how millions of people would see - anger... he said he understood how millions of people would see it - millions of people would see it around the country — but he didn't accept fully that it was a party. technically, he said, he didn't think you broke the rules. let me show you the pole that's out tonight, quite a big pole, 2500 people have listened to what boris johnson said — and that's how many of them, 88%, think it was a party that he attended. only 4% don't think it was a party. and if you drill into that poll, 85% of conservative voters think it was a party. so he has a problem, doesn't he? in party. so he has a problem, doesn't he? , , . he? in his statement, he did recognise — he? in his statement, he did recognise that _ he? in his statement, he did recognise that number - he? in his statement, he did recognise that number ten l he? in his statement, he did| recognise that number ten is he? in his statement, he did - recognise that number ten is bound by the _ recognise that number ten is bound by the same — recognise that number ten is bound by the same rules _ recognise that number ten is bound by the same rules as _ recognise that number ten is bound by the same rules as the _ recognise that number ten is bound by the same rules as the rest - recognise that number ten is bound by the same rules as the rest of - recognise that number ten is bound by the same rules as the rest of the country. _ by the same rules as the rest of the country and — by the same rules as the rest of the country, and that _ by the same rules as the rest of the country, and that clearly— by the same rules as the rest of the country, and that clearly didn't - country, and that clearly didn't happen, — country, and that clearly didn't happen. and _ country, and that clearly didn't happen, and he's taken- country, and that clearly didn't happen, and he's taken full- happen, and he's taken full responsibility— happen, and he's taken full responsibility for— happen, and he's taken full responsibility for that. - happen, and he's taken full responsibility for that. and | happen, and he's taken fulli responsibility for that. and i happen, and he's taken full- responsibility for that. and i think it's important— responsibility for that. and i think it's important now— responsibility for that. and i think it's important now that _ responsibility for that. and i think it's important now that we - responsibility for that. and i think. it's important now that we recognise there _ it's important now that we recognise there has— it's important now that we recognise there has been— it's important now that we recognise there has been a _ it's important now that we recognise there has been a full— it's important now that we recognise there has been a full and _ it's important now that we recognise there has been a full and proper- there has been a full and proper apology — there has been a full and proper apology there's _ there has been a full and proper apology, there's been _ there has been a full and proper apology, there's been a - there has been a full and proper. apology, there's been a recognition of the _ apology, there's been a recognition of the millions _ apology, there's been a recognition of the millions of— apology, there's been a recognition of the millions of people who - apology, there's been a recognition of the millions of people who are l of the millions of people who are upset _ of the millions of people who are upset and — of the millions of people who are upset and angry _ of the millions of people who are upset and angry, suffered - of the millions of people who are upset and angry, suffered in - of the millions of people who are | upset and angry, suffered in their own ways, — upset and angry, suffered in their own ways, but _ upset and angry, suffered in their own ways, but also _ upset and angry, suffered in their own ways, but also are _ upset and angry, suffered in their own ways, but also are angry - upset and angry, suffered in their own ways, but also are angry and i own ways, but also are angry and outraged — own ways, but also are angry and outraged by— own ways, but also are angry and outraged by what's _ own ways, but also are angry and outraged by what's happened. . own ways, but also are angry and outraged by what's happened. i. own ways, but also are angry and - outraged by what's happened. i think what we _ outraged by what's happened. i think what we now— outraged by what's happened. i think what we now need _ outraged by what's happened. i think what we now need to _ outraged by what's happened. i think what we now need to do _ outraged by what's happened. i think what we now need to do is _ outraged by what's happened. i think what we now need to do is to - outraged by what's happened. i think what we now need to do is to wait. what we now need to do is to wait for the _ what we now need to do is to wait for the inquiry— what we now need to do is to wait for the inquiry to _ what we now need to do is to wait for the inquiry to be completed. i| for the inquiry to be completed. i think we — for the inquiry to be completed. i think we should _ for the inquiry to be completed. i think we should not _ for the inquiry to be completed. i. think we should not underestimate that inquiry — think we should not underestimate that inquiry she _ think we should not underestimate that inquiry. she will— think we should not underestimate that inquiry. she will be _ that inquiry. she will be considering _ that inquiry. she will be considering a _ that inquiry. she will be considering a number. that inquiry. she will be| considering a number of that inquiry. she will be _ considering a number of functions, and she'll— considering a number of functions, and she'll be — considering a number of functions, and she'll be doing _ considering a number of functions, and she'll be doing a _ considering a number of functions, and she'll be doing a thorough- and she'll be doing a thorough inquiry — and she'll be doing a thorough inquiry shatt— and she'll be doing a thorough inquiry, shall be _ and she'll be doing a thorough inquiry, shall be looking - and she'll be doing a thorough inquiry, shall be looking at- and she'll be doing a thoroughl inquiry, shall be looking at who organised — inquiry, shall be looking at who organised the _ inquiry, shall be looking at who organised the events, - inquiry, shall be looking at who organised the events, what - inquiry, shall be looking at whol organised the events, what their purpose — organised the events, what their purpose was, _ organised the events, what their purpose was, who _ organised the events, what their purpose was, who attended, - organised the events, what their. purpose was, who attended, what organised the events, what their- purpose was, who attended, what was said, purpose was, who attended, what was said. and so— purpose was, who attended, what was said. and so on — purpose was, who attended, what was said, and so on. and _ purpose was, who attended, what was said, and so on. and let's _ purpose was, who attended, what was said, and so on. and let's not - said, and so on. and let's not underestimate _ said, and so on. and let's not underestimate who— said, and so on. and let's not underestimate who sue - said, and so on. and let's not underestimate who sue greyl said, and so on. and let's not i underestimate who sue grey is, said, and so on. and let's not - underestimate who sue grey is, she's a formidable — underestimate who sue grey is, she's a formidable civil— underestimate who sue grey is, she's a formidable civil servant... - underestimate who sue grey is, she's a formidable civil servant... we - a formidable civil servant... we make _ a formidable civil servant... we make we — a formidable civil servant... we make we will— a formidable civil servant... we make we will come _ a formidable civil servant... we make we will come to - a formidable civil servant... we make we will come to her, - a formidable civil servant... we make we will come to her, butl a formidable civil servant... we| make we will come to her, but i a formidable civil servant... we - make we will come to her, but i want to get— make we will come to her, but i want to get as _ make we will come to her, but i want to get as many— make we will come to her, but i want to get as many questions _ make we will come to her, but i want to get as many questions and - make we will come to her, but i want to get as many questions and as - make we will come to her, but i want to get as many questions and as i- to get as many questions and as i can with — to get as many questions and as i can with you _ to get as many questions and as i can with you-— can with you. what struck me yesterday _ can with you. what struck me yesterday when _ can with you. what struck me yesterday when the _ can with you. what struck me | yesterday when the paymaster can with you. what struck me - yesterday when the paymaster general set up to defend the prime minister, yes, there were no conservative backbenchers in the house — but there was no one in the front bench, no one to support him. the whips couldn't find anyone to stand alongside him in support. this is the tweet that the chancellor has sent out tonight. i will go i've been busy all day considering work on our plan forjobs as well as meeting mps to discuss the energy situation." the pm was right to apologise and i support his request for patients while sue grey investigates." that's hardly fulsome investigates." that's hardly fulsome in support, isn't it? does he have the confidence of the cabinet? i the confidence of the cabinet? i would've thought so, because otherwise _ would've thought so, because otherwise the _ would've thought so, because otherwise the individuals - would've thought so, because otherwise the individuals who| would've thought so, because - otherwise the individuals who don't -ive otherwise the individuals who don't give him _ otherwise the individuals who don't give him their— otherwise the individuals who don't give him their support _ otherwise the individuals who don't give him their support would - otherwise the individuals who don't give him their support would be - give him their support would be asked _ give him their support would be asked cabinet— give him their support would be asked cabinet ministers. - give him their support would be asked cabinet ministers. but. give him their support would be i asked cabinet ministers. but the fulsome — asked cabinet ministers. but the fulsome apology _ asked cabinet ministers. but the fulsome apology i'm _ asked cabinet ministers. but the fulsome apology i'm referring i asked cabinet ministers. but the fulsome apology i'm referring toi asked cabinet ministers. but the - fulsome apology i'm referring to was the apology— fulsome apology i'm referring to was the apology given _ fulsome apology i'm referring to was the apology given by _ fulsome apology i'm referring to was the apology given by prime - fulsome apology i'm referring to was the apology given by prime ministerl the apology given by prime minister in the _ the apology given by prime minister in the recognition _ the apology given by prime minister in the recognition that _ the apology given by prime minister in the recognition that he _ the apology given by prime minister in the recognition that he could've i in the recognition that he could've done _ in the recognition that he could've done things— in the recognition that he could've done things a _ in the recognition that he could've done things a whole _ in the recognition that he could've done things a whole lot _ in the recognition that he could've done things a whole lot better. i in the recognition that he could've| done things a whole lot better. he fully appreciates the _ done things a whole lot better. he fully appreciates the outrage of. fully appreciates the outrage of the people _ fully appreciates the outrage of the peopte in this — fully appreciates the outrage of the people in this country, and - fully appreciates the outrage of the people in this country, and i think. people in this country, and i think it's also— people in this country, and i think it's also important _ people in this country, and i think it's also important to _ people in this country, and i think it's also important to recognise i it's also important to recognise that he — it's also important to recognise that he recognises— it's also important to recognise that he recognises number- it's also important to recognise that he recognises number teni it's also important to recognise i that he recognises number ten is bound _ that he recognises number ten is bound by— that he recognises number ten is bound by the _ that he recognises number ten is bound by the same _ that he recognises number ten is bound by the same rules - that he recognises number ten is bound by the same rules as - that he recognises number ten is bound by the same rules as the l that he recognises number ten is. bound by the same rules as the rest of this— bound by the same rules as the rest of this country _ bound by the same rules as the rest of this country. you _ bound by the same rules as the rest of this country. you say _ bound by the same rules as the rest of this country. you say you'll - bound by the same rules as the rest of this country. you say you'll come | of this country. you say you'll come back to _ of this country. you say you'll come back to sucre — of this country. you say you'll come back to sucre later _ of this country. you say you'll come back to sucre later — _ of this country. you say you'll come back to sucre later — i— of this country. you say you'll come back to sucre later — ijust - of this country. you say you'll come back to sucre later — ijust want - back to sucre later — ijust want to make _ back to sucre later — ijust want to make my— back to sucre later — ijust want to make my contribution _ back to sucre later — ijust want to make my contribution on - back to sucre later — ijust want to make my contribution on sucre . back to sucre later — ijust want to make my contribution on sucre ——i make my contribution on sucre —— sucre, _ make my contribution on sucre —— sucre. to — make my contribution on sucre —— sucre, to recognise _ make my contribution on sucre —— sucre, to recognise she _ make my contribution on sucre —— sucre, to recognise she is - make my contribution on sucre —— sucre, to recognise she is a - sucre, to recognise she is a formidable _ sucre, to recognise she is a formidable civil— sucre, to recognise she is a formidable civil servant - sucre, to recognise she is a| formidable civil servant who sucre, to recognise she is a - formidable civil servant who will do an incredible — formidable civil servant who will do an incredible job. _ formidable civil servant who will do an incredible job. ._ formidable civil servant who will do an incredible job. . she _ formidable civil servant who will do an incredible job. . she will- formidable civil servant who will do an incredible job. . she will leave i an incredible job. . she will leave no stone — an incredible job. . she will leave no stone unturned, _ an incredible job. . she will leave no stone unturned, she - an incredible job. . she will leave no stone unturned, she will- an incredible job. . she will leave no stone unturned, she will do. an incredible job. . she will leave no stone unturned, she will do a| no stone unturned, she will do a thorough — no stone unturned, she will do a thorough inquiry, _ no stone unturned, she will do a thorough inquiry, and _ no stone unturned, she will do a thorough inquiry, and what - no stone unturned, she will do a thorough inquiry, and what we i no stone unturned, she will do a . thorough inquiry, and what we now need to— thorough inquiry, and what we now need to do— thorough inquiry, and what we now need to do is— thorough inquiry, and what we now need to do is recognise _ thorough inquiry, and what we now need to do is recognise there's- thorough inquiry, and what we now. need to do is recognise there's been a fulsome _ need to do is recognise there's been a fulsome apology _ need to do is recognise there's been a fulsome apology, and _ need to do is recognise there's been a fulsome apology, and also - need to do is recognise there's been a fulsome apology, and also that. need to do is recognise there's been a fulsome apology, and also that we shouldn't— a fulsome apology, and also that we shouldn't prejudge _ a fulsome apology, and also that we shouldn't prejudge the _ a fulsome apology, and also that we shouldn't prejudge the outcome - a fulsome apology, and also that we shouldn't prejudge the outcome of. shouldn't prejudge the outcome of what i'm _ shouldn't prejudge the outcome of what i'm sure _ shouldn't prejudge the outcome of what i'm sure will— shouldn't prejudge the outcome of what i'm sure will be _ shouldn't prejudge the outcome of what i'm sure will be a _ shouldn't prejudge the outcome of what i'm sure will be a very- what i'm sure will be a very thorough _ what i'm sure will be a very thorough inquiry. _ what i'm sure will be a very thorough inquiry. the - what i'm sure will be a veryl thorough inquiry. the prime what i'm sure will be a very- thorough inquiry. the prime minister has said _ thorough inquiry. the prime minister has said that — thorough inquiry. the prime minister has said that this _ thorough inquiry. the prime minister has said that this —— _ thorough inquiry. the prime minister has said that this —— he _ thorough inquiry. the prime minister has said that this —— he will- thorough inquiry. the prime minister has said that this —— he will come - has said that this —— he will come back and — has said that this —— he will come back and take _ has said that this —— he will come back and take questions - has said that this —— he will come back and take questions from - has said that this —— he will come back and take questions from the benches — back and take questions from the benches and _ back and take questions from the benches and backbenchers, - back and take questions from the benches and backbenchers, and i benches and backbenchers, and opposition— benches and backbenchers, and opposition benches, _ benches and backbenchers, and opposition benches, and - benches and backbenchers, and opposition benches, and his - benches and backbenchers, andi opposition benches, and his own benches and backbenchers, and - opposition benches, and his own back benches, _ opposition benches, and his own back benches, some— opposition benches, and his own back benches, some of— opposition benches, and his own back benches, some of whom _ opposition benches, and his own back benches, some of whom as _ opposition benches, and his own back benches, some of whom as you - benches, some of whom as you highlighted _ benches, some of whom as you highlighted are _ benches, some of whom as you highlighted are not _ benches, some of whom as you highlighted are not happy- benches, some of whom as you highlighted are not happy with. benches, some of whom as you i highlighted are not happy with him at the _ highlighted are not happy with him at the moment. _ highlighted are not happy with him at the moment.— highlighted are not happy with him at the moment. thank you very much indeed for coming _ at the moment. thank you very much indeed for coming on, _ at the moment. thank you very much indeed for coming on, we _ at the moment. thank you very much indeed for coming on, we appreciatel indeed for coming on, we appreciate it. pippa, here's the story you broke in the mirror at the beginning of december — the first time we became aware rules had been broken. and this was the prime minsiter�*s response to the house later that day. what i can tell the right honourable gentleman is that all guidance was followed completely during number ten. a week laster, itv released a recording in which his advisers joked about a christmas party they had attended — and this was his response. i apologise... i apologise unreservedly for the defence democrat offence it has caused up and down the country, and i apologise for the impression that it gives. but i repeat, mr speaker, that i have been repeatedly assured since these allegations emerged that there was no party... and no covid rules were broken. and that is what i have been repeatedly assured. a few days later, he was asked about a picture taken on 15 may — in which he and his wife were at what looked liked a cheese and wine event. he said they were people at work, talking about work. here's the case for the defence. i'm not saying i believe it, but i know a little bit about the war and that is downing street, this war and of georgian shoe boxes where everyone is cramming together. if we think back to the end of april, everybody got covid in downing street. it was not a healthfully environment and the way to get out of that was to spill into the garden. you couldn't have a beer and a pub or at home with a friend, or on a park bench. you could probably have a beer while you were working with one of your work colleagues. is that what happened?— work colleagues. is that what ha ened? ., ., �* , , happened? note, and we've been very clear throughout _ happened? note, and we've been very clear throughout in _ happened? note, and we've been very clear throughout in making _ happened? note, and we've been very clear throughout in making a _ clear throughout in making a distinction — and we've uncovered four of— distinction — and we've uncovered four of these gatherings and are reporting — four of these gatherings and are reporting that sue grey is looking at. reporting that sue grey is looking at we've — reporting that sue grey is looking at. we've been clear we were not looking _ at. we've been clear we were not looking at— at. we've been clear we were not looking at the grey area, if you like. _ looking at the grey area, if you like, people having a beer at their desk— like, people having a beer at their desk or— like, people having a beer at their desk or at — like, people having a beer at their desk or at the end of the working day - _ desk or at the end of the working day - which— desk or at the end of the working day — which at number ten never ends, _ day — which at number ten never ends. but — day — which at number ten never ends, but goes late into the night. whether— ends, but goes late into the night. whether or— ends, but goes late into the night. whether or not that was within the rutes— whether or not that was within the rules are _ whether or not that was within the rules are not, we consider that to be borderline, and possibly understandable if it was technically a breach— understandable if it was technically a breach of the rules at the time. but we _ a breach of the rules at the time. but we concentrated on, and certainly _ but we concentrated on, and certainly the gatherings that sue l rey certainly the gatherings that sue grey is— certainly the gatherings that sue grey is concentrating on, are those who guite — grey is concentrating on, are those who quite clearly had no work aspect to them _ who quite clearly had no work aspect to them and were all social. they all took _ to them and were all social. they all took place after conventional working — all took place after conventional working hours and did, there was e-maits — working hours and did, there was emails or— working hours and did, there was e—mails or messages describing them as parties _ e—mails or messages describing them as parties in— e—mails or messages describing them as parties. in the case of the most recent— as parties. in the case of the most recent allegations, the dominic cummings one about may 2020, staff were urged _ cummings one about may 2020, staff were urged to bring their own bottle — were urged to bring their own bottle. there were all sorts of other— bottle. there were all sorts of other activities going on, like christmas games and quizzes, secret santas— christmas games and quizzes, secret santas that _ christmas games and quizzes, secret santas that quite clearly could not be considered work activities. and i think— be considered work activities. and i think that _ be considered work activities. and i think that distinction is really important because irregardless of what a _ important because irregardless of what a rabbit warren number ten might— what a rabbit warren number ten might be, — what a rabbit warren number ten might be, and hospitals that were dealing _ might be, and hospitals that were dealing with similar working conditions, there was a set of rule in place _ conditions, there was a set of rule in place. nothing to stop them from going _ in place. nothing to stop them from going to the garden and doing work out there. — going to the garden and doing work out there, of course, but it looks to me _ out there, of course, but it looks to me like — out there, of course, but it looks to me like they were not following the rules they expected everyone else to _ the rules they expected everyone else to follow. the the rules they expected everyone else to follow.— the rules they expected everyone else to follow. the reason i put the ruestion i else to follow. the reason i put the question i did _ else to follow. the reason i put the question i did about _ else to follow. the reason i put the question i did about whether - else to follow. the reason i put the question i did about whether or - else to follow. the reason i put the question i did about whether or not borisjohnson knew he was at a party is because it comes down to the judgment. and i must ask you, because we've already talked about michael gove, everybody remembers backin michael gove, everybody remembers back in 2016 and the reason he didn't support him as prime minister was because, having consulting widely, he didn't feel that he had the ability to bring the party and the ability to bring the party and the country together. and there was a question mark over hisjudgment then. he's been very supportive tonight, if you look at the tweet tonight, if you look at the tweet tonight, in the 1922 committee, but i wonder privately whether he will think he'll be vindicated. i i wonder privately whether he will think he'll be vindicated.— think he'll be vindicated. i can't answer that _ think he'll be vindicated. i can't answer that question _ think he'll be vindicated. i can't answer that question because l think he'll be vindicated. i can't answer that question because i | think he'll be vindicated. i can't - answer that question because i don't live with him any more. but what i will say is that one of the big problems with this whole thing is that what effectively the prime minister is now asking us to do is to show him a bit of slack, to show some sympathy for his situation that existed at number ten at the time. the problem with that is that no one showed members of the public any sympathy. we had old ladies being interviewed by the police because they had a cup of tea on the wrong bench. we had people being fined for going for walks with their dogs in situations that seem to be completely ok. i can river sitting on a bench in the park in london, and some policeman coming up to me and bellowing at me and my megaphone —— in my ear with his megaphone that if i didn't get up, i would be arrested. this is the difficulty. you cannot expect the public to show you sympathy when actually, these rules were enforced in a very draconian way. so rules were enforced in a very draconian way.— rules were enforced in a very draconian way. rules were enforced in a very draconian wa . , ., ., ., ~ ., draconian way. so when you look at that ole draconian way. so when you look at that pole and. _ draconian way. so when you look at that pole and, in _ draconian way. so when you look at that pole and, in mind _ draconian way. so when you look at that pole and, in mind of— draconian way. so when you look at that pole and, in mind of what - draconian way. so when you look at that pole and, in mind of what you | that pole and, in mind of what you just said, should he resign? trio. that pole and, in mind of what you just said, should he resign? kiwi just said, should he resign? no, i don't think— just said, should he resign? no, i don't think is _ just said, should he resign? no, i don't think is there _ just said, should he resign? no, i don't think is there yet. _ just said, should he resign? no, i don't think is there yet. i - just said, should he resign? no, i don't think is there yet. i think i don't think is there yet. i think that there will be... the prime minister's main problem is dominic cummings, and his main mistake was to not secure dominic cummings�*s silence when he walked out of number ten. and the thing about cummings is that he is the master of guerrilla political warfare. and the context of the situation, boris is like a giant beast, and cummings is like a tiny little, very sharp toothed little mammal, and he'lljust keep on going. and he will bring him down, because that's what he wants to do. let's not forget what cummings is capable of in terms of persuasion. and i think that is a huge problem. i suspect the reckoning will be local elections in may. a lot will depend on that, i think. but the other thing to say is that the conservative party in general is nervous because they're looking down the line at the next general election, and they're just general election, and they�* re just wondering general election, and they're just wondering what christians will they be answering on the doorstep. and if this isn't cleared up, then i think it be sticky. this isn't cleared up, then i think it be sticky-— it be sticky. dominic cummings, revenue it be sticky. dominic cummings, revenge is a _ it be sticky. dominic cummings, revenge is a dish _ it be sticky. dominic cummings, revenge is a dish best _ it be sticky. dominic cummings, revenge is a dish best served i it be sticky. dominic cummings, i revenge is a dish best served cold, i think. on the evidence of today's performance in the house, borisjohnson is a political gambler tying his future as prime minister directly to the findings of the official inquiry, which will report next week. sir keir starmer reminded him several times that ministers who are found to have misled parliament are expected to resign. but mrjohnson is playing for time, which means a lot of pressure now falls on the shoulders of the civil servant overseeing the investigation. all of that, as you know, is the subject of a proper investigation by sue gray. so have you already been interviewed by sue gray — and, if not, do you object to to her questioning you again about this? all that's subject for an investigation by sue gray. it's absolutely right that the prime minister moved swiftly to commission that independent inquiry by miss gray. and all i ask is that sue gray be allowed to complete her inquiry into that day and several others so that the full facts can be established. let's bring in caroline slocock, the first woman to serve as a private secretary in number ten, working for two conservative prime ministers — margaret thatcher and john major. she is the first woman to hold that position. thanks for being with us. i read today that in the nineteen eighties, sue grey paused her stellar civil service career to buy a pub in ireland in the midst of the troubles. so that tells me she's no pushover, am i right? she troubles. so that tells me she's no pushover, am i right?— pushover, am i right? she could lavishly pull— pushover, am i right? she could lavishly pull a — pushover, am i right? she could lavishly pull a point, _ pushover, am i right? she could lavishly pull a point, as - pushover, am i right? she could lavishly pull a point, as well. - pushover, am i right? she could lavishly pull a point, as well. i. lavishly pull a point, as well. i haven't met a person — and she has a formidable reputation, and i think people hold her in high regard — but i think she's even the best person, the best civil servant in this position who will really struggle with this particular task. because it is not the job of civil servants to embarrass their ministers. trio. to embarrass their ministers. no, she will be _ to embarrass their ministers. no, she will be aware _ to embarrass their ministers. no, she will be aware that she has the reputation of the prime minister and senior civil servants serving and perhaps her office, in her hands. and that's a difficult position to be in. ,, �* , , and that's a difficult position to bein.,, ,., ., and that's a difficult position to bein. ,, ,., ., ., be in. she's built her reputation on bein: be in. she's built her reputation on being tough _ be in. she's built her reputation on being tough on _ be in. she's built her reputation on being tough on damien _ be in. she's built her reputation on being tough on damien green - be in. she's built her reputation on being tough on damien green and| being tough on damien green and andrew mitchell on plate gate, if you recall. but she was investigating on behalf of the prime minister, and she was reporting back to the prime minister who, in those two cases, took some pretty tough decisions. political careers were halted. ., �* , ., decisions. political careers were halted. , ., , decisions. political careers were halted. ., �* , ., , , halted. you've been a very senile democrat senior _ halted. you've been a very senile democrat senior civil _ halted. you've been a very senile democrat senior civil servant- i halted. you've been a very senile . democrat senior civil servant- would democrat senior civil servant— would you say that it would've been better to get a judge to look at this? i to get a judge to look at this? i think certainly an independent person, whether it's a judge or someone else, would have been better. and a natural person would have been the ministerial adviser —— adviser on ministerial standards. but he's already highlighted that his powers aren't strong enough, really, to look into the dealings of the prime minister, and he's holding out now for some better powers, statutory footing to initiate investigations, his report is being published promptly. so he's in trouble even when he's outside the civil service. sue grey is working for the prime minister, she's working for simon case, who had to recuse himself, and the prime minister — and her report and findings will certainly be pored over by those people, and they'll be given the opportunity to defend. it's very difficult for her, what will she do? her only tool really is to resign, which i think is very difficult. ~ ., ., ., difficult. we have to leave it there, thank _ difficult. we have to leave it there, thank you, _ difficult. we have to leave it there, thank you, we - difficult. we have to leave it there, thank you, we are . difficult. we have to leave it - there, thank you, we are almost out of time. ijust there, thank you, we are almost out of time. i just want to finish with you, pippa, on this thought — is there more to come? sarah has already pointed out that dominic cummings will give up, can you give us an answer on that? i cummings will give up, can you give us an answer on that?— us an answer on that? i don't think cummings — us an answer on that? i don't think cummings is the _ us an answer on that? i don't think cummings is the only _ us an answer on that? i don't think cummings is the only source - us an answer on that? i don't think cummings is the only source of. cummings is the only source of these things _ cummings is the only source of these things he _ cummings is the only source of these things. he certainly wasn't my source — things. he certainly wasn't my source as— things. he certainly wasn't my source. as you know, he and i don't have _ source. as you know, he and i don't have the _ source. as you know, he and i don't have the best — source. as you know, he and i don't have the best relationships after our bernard castle revelations. but i rememberthat our bernard castle revelations. but i remember that first story i did, speaking — i remember that first story i did, speaking to lots of people who said there _ speaking to lots of people who said there was— speaking to lots of people who said there was a culture at number ten. so it wouldn't surprise me if there are more — so it wouldn't surprise me if there are more revelations to come, or pictures— are more revelations to come, or pictures of— are more revelations to come, or pictures of the garden party that's under discussion just now. pictures of the garden party that's under discussionjust now. that will make _ under discussionjust now. that will make numberten very under discussionjust now. that will make number ten very anxious as it waits— make number ten very anxious as it waits for— make number ten very anxious as it waits for the — make number ten very anxious as it waits for the sucre inquiry probably next week — waits for the sucre inquiry probably next week. ~ ., , . , next week. more pictures in the wins next week. more pictures in the wings perhaps. _ next week. more pictures in the wings perhaps, we _ next week. more pictures in the wings perhaps, we will - next week. more pictures in the wings perhaps, we will see - next week. more pictures in the wings perhaps, we will see you. next week. more pictures in the - wings perhaps, we will see you. stay with us, we have more on prince andrew and russia and nato talking in brussels. hello there. for many of us, it wasn't a bad day today. we saw quite a bit of sunshine around. there was more cloud around, though, across scotland, more of a breeze here as well. for the next few days, certainly for the foreseeable future, high pressure is going to dominate the scene, so we will see a lot of dry and settled weather, but frost and dense fog is going to become a problem over the next few days, especially across england and wales. the fog patches will start developing through the overnight period, more extensive than we had the last couple of nights, and it will be cold where skies are clear as well. generally a cold, frosty night across the south. further north, more of a breeze, more cloud. less cold here — temperatures maybe 3—7 celsius for stornoway. our area of high pressure is with us for thursday. you can see more isobars across the north of the country, so here it will remain breezy. but barely any wind further south. that fog to start with, could be really quite dense in places, could cause issues to travel, and some of it may even linger on throughout the whole day. should clear for many. we should see some sunshine here. another fine day for many places that see that sunshine. some sunshine for parts of northern ireland, cloudier, breezy conditions for the northwest of scotland. temperatures, double figure values in the north, around 6—8 celsius in the south, but where the fog lingers, struggling to get much above freezing. we can see those temperatures around the seasonal norm as we head on into friday, keeping the very cold weather out at bay, all thanks to this area of high pressure which is pretty much sitting across england and wales. again, with light winds, we're going to start with that mist and fog for friday morning, some of it really quite dense and quite extensive once again. a bit more cloud for scotland and northern ireland, but where the fog lifts for england and wales, we should see some sunshine breaking through and temperatures again 5—8 celsius. colder where the fog lingers, 10 degrees for the far northwest of scotland. fog may become a problem over the next few days, could be dense and stubborn to clear. likely cause some disruption to travel. so stay tuned to bbc local radio or subs weather forecasts. and then, into the weekend, largely fine and settled thanks to the high pressure. chance of a few showers. most places will stay dry. hello, i'm christian fraser. you're watching context on bbc news — prince andrew faces a civil trial in the united states over accusations of sexual assault — after a judge refuses to dismiss it. virginia giuffree is suing the duke of york, claiming he abused her when she was 17 — allegations he strenuously denies. nato warns there's still a real risk of armed conflict in europe, after talks with russia end with significant differences unresolved. it should be allowed to 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with the convicted sex offenderjeffrey epstein. but today in a sternly worded 46—page ruling, thejudge lewis kaplan, said the earlier settlement did not apply to the duke and york and the defendents motion to dismiss the complaint. was denied in all respects. and so the prince is left with three options — he could settle out of court paying possibly a substantial sum of money without no admission of liability. he could default, ignore the case entirely and by default they would then find against him. or he could fight it out, but that would mean a deposition under oath, rival stories would be tested, and the matter eventually decided in open court. let's discuss what this all means for prince andrew and the case itself with moira penza, a former federal prosecutor, who also served in new york's eastern district. a new york's eastern district. settlement if i'm right to a settlement if i'm right needs two to tango. she doesn't have to was settled, thejunior to tango. she doesn't have to was settled, the junior giuffre, to tango. she doesn't have to was settled, thejunior giuffre, does settled, the junior giuffre, does she? settled, the “unior giuffre, does she? ~ ., settled, the “unior giuffre, does she? ~ . ., settled, the “unior giuffre, does she? . . ., , ., settled, the “unior giuffre, does she? . ., , ., ., she? what we have seen a more of these cases — she? what we have seen a more of these cases is _ she? what we have seen a more of these cases is a _ she? what we have seen a more of these cases is a lot _ she? what we have seen a more of these cases is a lot of _ she? what we have seen a more of these cases is a lot of women - she? what we have seen a more of these cases is a lot of women who | these cases is a lot of women who are now bringing claims based on sexual abuse as minors are really looking to have their day in court. now virginia giuffre has settled in the past, she settled withjeffrey epstein, we know that because of 2009. and depending on herfeelings toward that settlement, what happened, that it really have a big impact here as to whether she is even willing to entertain a settlement in this case. i even willing to entertain a settlement in this case. i suppose a lot is left to — settlement in this case. i suppose a lot is left to workout. _ settlement in this case. i suppose a lot is left to workout. because - lot is left to workout. because court cases are very expensive. whether a settlement is the better way to go. in the meantime, we are going to pretrial discovery. what happens there, what is the prince have to do? de happens there, what is the prince have to do?— have to do? de discovery in the united states _ have to do? de discovery in the united states is _ have to do? de discovery in the united states is a _ have to do? de discovery in the united states is a very - have to do? de discovery in thel united states is a very extensive process. it costs a lot of money. that's why you really saw this initial attempt to dismiss the case without having to go through the process. now prudence andrew will have to sit for a deposition as well —— prince andrew. as well as michael whaen and other witnesses. there are very limited rules as to topics that are off limits. you basically can ask any question as long as it is not something that is covered by the attorney—client privilege. this is a really arduous process for litigants at this point. in addition were going to see document discovery, both sides requesting documents. there's going to be requests certainly for her medical records, travel records as well as other forms of written discovery. there's often a lot of litigation during this process where we may see filings from either side moving to compel the other side to do certain things or to prevent them from doing certain things. things or to prevent them from doing certain things-— certain things. sarah, this would be the most sensational— certain things. sarah, this would be the most sensational child. - certain things. sarah, this would be the most sensational child. there i certain things. sarah, this would be i the most sensational child. there is no way given how sensational it would be that prince andrew is going to go to america and give evidence. i don't think he will go to america. i don't think he will go to america. i suppose — i don't think he will go to america. i suppose the question i have is, the other— i suppose the question i have is, the other person describes sounds like a _ the other person describes sounds like a trial— the other person describes sounds like a trial without a jury. i'm not sure _ like a trial without a jury. i'm not sure i_ like a trial without a jury. i'm not sure i really— like a trial without a jury. i'm not sure i really understand what that is. i sure i really understand what that is i don't— sure i really understand what that is. i don't want to sign the back understand _ is. i don't want to sign the back understand why 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uk? that's not true. this would be a 'u trial. uk? that's not true. this would be a jury trial- and _ uk? that's not true. this would be a jury trial. and so civil— uk? that's not true. this would be a jury trial. and so civil cases - jury trial. and so civil cases absolutely are tried to juries in this country. there can be sometimes where they are tried two judges, those are called bench trials. but the default is that you would be entitled to a trial byjury. this is always the process. there is always the process in a civil case of having discovery at the outset. and there are different other procedural mechanisms. as to why this is in the united states, ms. giuffre has laid out allegations that this did have a nexus to the southern district of new york where the case was being brought. certain actions did take place within new york and so that is why that's an appropriate venue here. and that would not... one of the basis of dismissing the case the question is, the queens going into the platinumjubilee. to question is, the queens going into the platinum jubilee.— question is, the queens going into the platinum jubilee. to be have a cli? i the platinum jubilee. to be have a clip? lthink— the platinum jubilee. to be have a clip? i think we _ the platinum jubilee. to be have a clip? i think we have _ the platinum jubilee. to be have a clip? i think we have a _ the platinum jubilee. to be have a clip? i think we have a clip - the platinum jubilee. to be have a clip? i think we have a clip of - clip? i think we have a clip of prince andrew talking to news night in that famous interview. he is asked whether it's overshadowed things for the queen. and this is what he said what's up have a listen. i don't believe it's been damaging to the cleaned it all. it has to me. if i was in a position to be able to answer with sensible answers other than the ones that i gave that gave closure then add love it. but i'm afraid i can't. because i'm just as much in the dark as 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line duties is on the cards. i we will leave that they are. thank you for bringing us up to date with the way this will work in new york. good to get your expertise. the united states and nato have rejected today the demands that russia put down for easing the tensions over ukraine. the meeting in brussels, the first of its kind in two years, ended without any agreements, but the alliance held out the offer of future talks on arms control, missile deployments and military exercises. there are concerns in europe that in setting unrealistic demands, russia is using these talks as a pretext for war. around 100,000 russian troops are still massed on the border with ukraine. on monday — in what was a strangely worded statement — the russian foreign ministry insisted there were no plans, no intentions to "attack" ukraine. attack was put in quotes. and it was pre—empted, with a list of demands. president putin wants nato to pull its forces out of the former soviet countries, and to rule out the possibility ukraine will everjoin the alliance. nato's secretary general says the two sides have significant differences, but the door remain open. it's not possible to say anything with certainty on the likelihood of conflict. what i do know is there's a real risk for renewed use of force against ukraine. that's exactly why the meeting today was important. because we believe in political path that we engage in good faith and sit down and ukraine to find a peaceful way forward. and ukraine to find a peaceful way forward. admiraljames stavridis is a retired united states navy admiral and joins us from jacksonville, florida. lovely to see you. essentially, russia was a veto on all nato's activities in europe, that's a nonstarter, quite plainly. so what we doinu nonstarter, quite plainly. so what we doing here? _ nonstarter, quite plainly. so what we doing here? we _ nonstarter, quite plainly. so what we doing here? we are _ nonstarter, quite plainly. so what we doing here? we are going - nonstarter, quite plainly. so what we doing here? we are going to l nonstarter, quite plainly. so what i we doing here? we are going to put nonstarter, quite plainly. so what - we doing here? we are going to put a few things on the table. let's face it, this is a negotiation that is really more like a hostage situation in which ukraine is the hostage, russia has put a gun to the head of the hostage and says it will shoot the hostage and says it will shoot the hostage and says it will shoot the hostage unless we negotiate. so we are not to offer a heck of a lot on this one. i think your setup is correct was up there are some things we can discuss about exercises, balance on both sides of these borders, nato and russia's. about missile deployment, perhaps missile defence systems in eastern europe. there are some things that can be discussed. but yes, the idea of russia gaining a veto of a nato membership is preposterous. and it won't happen. the membership is preposterous. and it won't happen-— won't happen. the nato treaty of course keeps _ won't happen. the nato treaty of course keeps the _ won't happen. the nato treaty of course keeps the door _ won't happen. the nato treaty of course keeps the door open - won't happen. the nato treaty of course keeps the door open for. won't happen. the nato treaty of - course keeps the door open for other countries tojoin. course keeps the door open for other countries to join. the deputy secretary of state was asked about that today. this is what she said. collectively we are preparing for every eventuality. we have made it clear and we told the russians directly again today, that if russia further invades ukraine there will be significant costs and consequences well beyond what they faced in 2014. did given assurance to ukraine and georgia but in 2008 that they would be able to join nato. no georgia but in 2008 that they would be able tojoin nato. no one really think that's a good idea. but no it's good to put it in black and white, are they a? i it's good to put it in black and white, are they a?— white, are they a? i don't think ou'll white, are they a? i don't think you'll see _ white, are they a? i don't think you'll see it — white, are they a? i don't think you'll see it written _ white, are they a? i don't think you'll see it written down. - white, are they a? i don't think you'll see it written down. butl white, are they a? i don't think. you'll see it written down. but the real issue here, by the way you mentioned the nato treaty, i encourage viewers to actually read it. it's only 14 articles long, it's 28 sentences long, it's eight model of elegance and sensibility. and it maintains an open door. i would say what vladimir putin is doing here is a real strategic failure on his part as follows — the more he pushes honest i think the more likely it is that ultimately ukraine and georgia may have a path to membership. but i'll tell you it's quite interesting to me is what our opinion to finland and sweden going to do? for both of where we see polls, those two nations joining where we see polls, those two nationsjoining nato. so vladimir putin may end up with a much more worse situation that he started. i think we have a map of nato's positions in europe which is worth looking at. it shows you how big nato's footprint is across the continent. i guess these baltic states that were looking at, they're not there to be in support of nato pulling back from the front here when there's 100,000 troops on ukraine's border. when there's100,000 troops on ukraine's border.— when there's100,000 troops on ukraine's border. right? exactly. alain, ukraine's border. right? exactly. again. vladimir— ukraine's border. right? exactly. again, vladimir putin _ ukraine's border. right? exactly. again, vladimir putin may - ukraine's border. right? exactly. again, vladimir putin may fancy. again, vladimir putin may fancy himself a very clever tactician but he's failing as a strategist here. he's going to push more nations into the alliance, ischemic create alliance solidarity. ultimately, if he invades ukraine you watch those nato forces load up on his borders, exactly what he doesn't want. the de - u exactly what he doesn't want. the deputy foreign minister of russia did speak after they left brussels today, he looks at that map and he says nato is all about threatening russia. translation: the main task of nato policy and military i deployment is to deter russia. and enormous resources are being allocated for this purpose. they don't conceal that this is the alliances main purpose. from its always been that way, hasn't it? this was established pretty much after the fall of the soviet union. is the footprint of nato any bigger than it was at the end of the war?— end of the war? slightly. we've added a few _ end of the war? slightly. we've added a few nations _ end of the war? slightly. we've added a few nations in - end of the war? slightly. we've added a few nations in the - end of the war? slightly. we've - added a few nations in the balkans. not exactly powerhouses but montenegro, north macedonia have joined. here's the point, for the russians to say they are threatened by nato when they are the ones who have invaded georgia, invaded ukraine in 2014, they hold a chunk of a small country called mould over, they are the ones who are consistently sending their troops into other nations often without consent. so i think the history here pretty much favours the nato position which is, we are not here to invade you but you are showing us a propensity to do so therefore we have to be prepared.— have to be prepared. thank you for cominu onto the program. standoff. but there may be help at hand because liz truss, foreign secretary here has said that she's heading off to moscow next month. is that a good idea, is i can make the difference to what's going on, the dispute of the ukraine?— the ukraine? well, this trip has been confirmed _ the ukraine? well, 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her international trade job, _ experience touring the globe for her internationaltradejob, doesn't- internationaltradejob, doesn't have _ internationaltradejob, doesn't have a — internationaltradejob, doesn't have a huge _ internationaltradejob, doesn't have a huge amount _ internationaltradejob, doesn't have a huge amount of- internationaltradejob, doesn't. have a huge amount of experience internationaltradejob, doesn't- have a huge amount of experience in diplomatic— have a huge amount of experience in diplomatic details— have a huge amount of experience in diplomatic details becomes - have a huge amount of experience in diplomatic details becomes with - diplomatic details becomes with being _ diplomatic details becomes with being foreign— diplomatic details becomes with being foreign secretary. - diplomatic details becomes with being foreign secretary. i- diplomatic details becomes with being foreign secretary. i thinkl diplomatic details becomes withl being foreign secretary. i think a long-standing _ being foreign secretary. i think a long—standing relationship - being foreign secretary. i think a long—standing relationship with i long—standing relationship with nato's — long—standing relationship with nato's and _ long—standing relationship with nato's and allies. _ long—standing relationship with nato's and allies. i _ long—standing relationship with nato's and allies. ithink- long—standing relationship with nato's and allies. i think the i nato's and allies. i think the foreign— nato's and allies. i think the foreign office _ nato's and allies. i think the foreign office will— nato's and allies. i think the . foreign office will encouraging nato's and allies. i think the - foreign office will encouraging her to tread _ foreign office will encouraging her to tread very — foreign office will encouraging her to tread very gently _ foreign office will encouraging her to tread very gently here. - foreign office will encouraging her| to tread very gently here. certainly a very— to tread very gently here. certainly a very fragile — to tread very gently here. certainly a very fragile situation. _ to tread very gently here. certainly a very fragile situation. it’s - to tread very gently here. certainly a very fragile situation.— a very fragile situation. it's a aood a very fragile situation. it's a good photo _ a very fragile situation. it's a good photo up _ a very fragile situation. it's a good photo up though. - a very fragile situation. it's a good photo up though. if- a very fragile situation. it's a i good photo up though. if there a very fragile situation. it's a - good photo up though. if there is going to be a leadership battle and you there standing next to president putin, could be any better. note am worried about? i worried they're going to say, look, there's nothing to worry about from nato, were not expanding to the baltic frontier. and you know which picture they can bring up, they can bring up this picture of liz truss in a tank in estonia heading towards russia. that's what they're gonna do. that's what i was gonna _ that's what they're gonna do. that's what i was gonna say. _ that's what they're gonna do. that's what i was gonna say. she _ that's what they're gonna do. that's what i was gonna say. she doesn't i what i was gonna say. she doesn't have to _ what i was gonna say. she doesn't have to be — what i was gonna say. she doesn't have to be straddling _ what i was gonna say. she doesn't have to be straddling large - what i was gonna say. she doesn't have to be straddling large metall have to be straddling large metal objects was— have to be straddling large metal objects was up _ have to be straddling large metal objects was up she _ have to be straddling large metal objects was up she did _ have to be straddling large metal objects was up she did one, - have to be straddling large metal objects was up she did one, i- have to be straddling large metal. objects was up she did one, i think it was— objects was up she did one, i think it was in— objects was up she did one, i think it was injapan_ objects was up she did one, i think it was injapan on a _ objects was up she did one, i think it was in japan on a motorbike - objects was up she did one, i think it was injapan on a motorbike as. it was injapan on a motorbike as well _ it was injapan on a motorbike as well i— it was in japan on a motorbike as well. ~ , it was in japan on a motorbike as well. ~' , ,, ., , ., well. i think in terms... she was a secies well. i think in terms... she was a species as — well. i think in terms... she was a species as a _ well. i think in terms... she was a species as a statesman _ well. i think in terms... she was a species as a statesman or - species as a statesman or saleswoman, i don't how we say these saleswoman, idon't how we say these things— saleswoman, i don't how we say these things these _ saleswoman, i don't how we say these things these days. it's an absolute opportunity for her. but i do think _ opportunity for her. but i do think i_ opportunity for her. but i do think... i don't know, i wouldn't underestimate putin, he's got a nice piece _ underestimate putin, he's got a nice piece of— underestimate putin, he's got a nice piece of work, was already did in salisbury. — piece of work, was already did in salisbury, demand is a play by the rules. _ salisbury, demand is a play by the rules. let's— salisbury, demand is a play by the rules, let's be honest. no. salisbury, demand is a play by the rules, let's be honest.— rules, let's be honest. no. ithink that isfair— rules, let's be honest. no. ithink that is fair to _ rules, let's be honest. no. ithink that is fair to say _ rules, let's be honest. no. ithink that is fair to say for _ rules, let's be honest. no. ithink that is fair to say for the - rules, let's be honest. no. ithink that is fair to say for the the - that is fair to say for the the ukrainians would quite agree with that. now... increasingly donald trump is trying out other outlets. the not—for—profit national public radio or npr has been bidding for an interview on successive levered seven years. rather like us. mr trump is rather relented that he wish he didn't. the question on republicans distancing himself from him and that election. why is it that you think the vast majority of your allies in the united states senators are not standing behind you? we did have that statement by mike rollins. because mitch mcconnell is a loser. when npr's steven inskeep continued to press him about the election, this is how the conversation ended. it shouldn't be allowed to happen and they don't want it to happen again. iwant to... the only way is not can happen again is, you have to solve the problem of the presidentially rigged election of 2020. so, steve thank you very much. one more question, i want to ask about a court hearing yesterday on january six, thejudge — he's gone, okay. too late, too late. let's bring in our senior north america reporter, anthony zurcher. it's an extraordinary tactic when his interview, he literally bombards the interviewer, bamboozled them. with a number of facts that actually don't back up or bear relation to the facts without most of them just gets off by it. actually steve to keep at it. the big equation i think is is he right? are some of the republicans now starting to ask bigger questions about what president trump is saying? well, that mike rollins _ president trump is saying? well, that mike rollins statement - president trump is saying? -ii that mike rollins statement that he referenced there, all my role and said, the senator from referenced there, all my role and said, the senatorfrom south dakota was thatjoe biden won the 2020 election. and that prompted donald trump to issue yet another one of these overheated press releases attacking mike rounds. i think it reflects a sensitivity donald trump as to some members of the republican party perhaps starting to try to get some daylight between him and them. because they see donald trump i think, as a detriment in the midterm elections are coming up this november. republicans have the political wind at their back here. they have an unpopular president right now, they're in the minority so they can make the case that they need to come back into power. the last thing they want is trump meddling and speaking up and becoming the new story because that distracts from their message. it also will activate the democratic base and get them out to vote. so i think they are starting to sense that they need to have some space. peppa, let's face it, the mirror is behind npr. you like it an interview. do you fancy a, would you like to interview him?— like to interview him? sorry, go on. of course but _ like to interview him? sorry, go on. of course but i _ like to interview him? sorry, go on. of course but i think _ like to interview him? sorry, go on. of course but i think he _ like to interview him? sorry, go on. of course but i think he would - like to interview him? sorry, go on. | of course but i think he would storm out in _ of course but i think he would storm out in less— of course but i think he would storm out in less than— of course but i think he would storm out in less than nine _ of course but i think he would storm out in less than nine minutes. - out in less than nine minutes. certainly— out in less than nine minutes. certainly i _ out in less than nine minutes. certainly i don't _ out in less than nine minutes. certainly i don't sure - out in less than nine minutes. certainly i don't sure i- out in less than nine minutes. certainly i don't sure i get- out in less than nine minutes. | certainly i don't sure i get that long _ certainly i don't sure i get that long for— certainly i don't sure i get that long for that _ certainly i don't sure i get that long for that we _ certainly i don't sure i get that long for that we also _ certainly i don't sure i get that long for that we also joke - certainly i don't sure i get thatl long for that we also joke about donald — long for that we also joke about donald trump _ long for that we also joke about donald trump who _ long for that we also joke about donald trump who now - long for that we also joke about donald trump who now is - long for that we also joke about donald trump who now is just i donald trump who now is just certainly— donald trump who now is just certainly internationally - donald trump who now is just certainly internationally as - donald trump who now is just certainly internationally as a i certainly internationally as a sideline _ certainly internationally as a sideline discredited - certainly internationally as a sideline discredited figure. i certainly internationally as a - sideline discredited figure. let's not forget. _ sideline discredited figure. let's not forget. it's— sideline discredited figure. let's not forget, it's only _ sideline discredited figure. let's not forget, it's only a _ sideline discredited figure. let's not forget, it's only a year - sideline discredited figure. let's not forget, it's only a year sincei not forget, it's only a year since the remarks _ not forget, it's only a year since the remarks he _ not forget, it's only a year since the remarks he made _ not forget, it's only a year since the remarks he made on - not forget, it's only a year since the remarks he made on the - not forget, it's only a year since i the remarks he made on the radio today _ the remarks he made on the radio today he — the remarks he made on the radio today he was— the remarks he made on the radio today. he was making _ the remarks he made on the radio today. he was making to - the remarks he made on the radio today. he was making to the - the remarks he made on the radiol today. he was making to the public outside _ today. he was making to the public outside the — today. he was making to the public outside the white house _ today. he was making to the public outside the white house and - today. he was making to the public outside the white house and there| outside the white house and there was that— outside the white house and there was that awful _ outside the white house and there was that awful riot _ outside the white house and there was that awful riot which _ outside the white house and there was that awful riot which he - outside the white house and there was that awful riot which he was i was that awful riot which he was impeached — was that awful riot which he was impeached over. _ was that awful riot which he was impeached over. he _ was that awful riot which he was impeached over. he potentiallyl was that awful riot which he was. impeached over. he potentially is was that awful riot which he was i impeached over. he potentially is a dangerous— impeached over. he potentially is a dangerous figure _ impeached over. he potentially is a dangerous figure in _ impeached over. he potentially is a dangerous figure in american - dangerous figure in american politics _ dangerous figure in american politics he's— dangerous figure in american politics. he's not— dangerous figure in american politics. he's not planning. dangerous figure in american politics. he's not planning oni dangerous figure in american - politics. he's not planning on going away— politics. he's not planning on going away anytime — politics. he's not planning on going away anytime soon. _ politics. he's not planning on going away anytime soon. i— politics. he's not planning on going away anytime soon. idon't- politics. he's not planning on going away anytime soon. i don't think i away anytime soon. i don't think republicans _ away anytime soon. i don't think republicans do _ away anytime soon. idon't think republicans do think— away anytime soon. i don't thinkl republicans do think republicans away anytime soon. i don't think - republicans do think republicans are right _ republicans do think republicans are right i— republicans do think republicans are riht, , , republicans do think republicans are riuht. , , ., right. i suppose it will depend on what comes _ right. i suppose it will depend on what comes of _ right. i suppose it will depend on what comes of the _ right. i suppose it will depend on what comes of the generous - right. i suppose it will depend on what comes of the generous six l right. i suppose it will depend on | what comes of the generous six in korea whether there is a criminal charge at the end of it. they've subpoenaed three more people. one of them is the person that wrote his speech onjanuary them is the person that wrote his speech on january six, the them is the person that wrote his speech onjanuary six, the speech that he gave at the ellipse. i5 speech on january six, the speech that he gave at the ellipse. is that important? _ that he gave at the ellipse. is that important? because _ that he gave at the ellipse. is that important? because that - that he gave at the ellipse. is that important? because that speech l that he gave at the ellipse. is that i important? because that speech has been cited as one of the reasons why the people who are at the ellipse for that stop the steel rally marched down pennsylvania avenue and stormed the capital. some of them stormed the capital. some of them storm the capital. they want to see what sort of knowledge but into that speech, what sort of thinking went behind some of that language to fight and to be brave and all of those lives at donald trump used. they were cited during the impeachment trial and they want to get at the motivation behind it and what kind of knowledge they may have been that there was a potential for violence. a, ~ �* been that there was a potential for violence. . �* ., ~ been that there was a potential for violence. . �* ., ,, ., violence. okay. we've talked about really serious _ violence. okay. we've talked about really serious things _ violence. okay. we've talked about really serious things tonight. - violence. okay. we've talked about really serious things tonight. so - really serious things tonight. so let's get to the nitty—gritty. the real story that i want to talk about tonight. it's the new bar, venue 45 in trump tower in new york. which openedin in trump tower in new york. which opened in november. there is a cocktail, it's called number 45 as in the 45 president. it is of course $45. it comes with two small hamburgers. sorry, i nearly said two small hands. two small hamburgers and a diet coke. what do you think is in the 45, what is the kids made with? �* , ., is in the 45, what is the kids made with? �*, ., ., ., , with? it's an orange. it must presumably _ with? it's an orange. it must presumably contain a - with? it's an orange. it must presumably contain a lot - with? it's an orange. it must presumably contain a lot of. with? it's an orange. it must - presumably contain a lot of alcohol. it is presumably contain a lot of alcohol. it is not _ presumably contain a lot of alcohol. it is not that any fans are in it, wronu. �* ., p it is not that any fans are in it, wronu.�* ., p h it is not that any fans are in it, wronup ., �*, ., it is not that any fans are in it, wron_�* ., �*, ., it is not that any fans are in it, wronu. ., wrong. anthony? it's a whisky bar so i'll sa whisky and it and... you are a trained observer. it does. it i whisky and it and... you are a i trained observer. it does. it has wine and whiskey. what about the floaters, what you think the floaters, what you think the floaters has got in a? something ve ve floaters has got in a? something very very icy. — floaters has got in a? something very very icy. lots _ floaters has got in a? something very very icy, lots of _ floaters has got in a? something very very icy, lots of eyes. - floaters has got in a? something very very icy, lots of eyes. lots i floaters has got in a? somethingl very very icy, lots of eyes. lots of ice, ve very very icy, lots of eyes. lots of ice. very drive- — very very icy, lots of eyes. lots of ice, very drive. i'll— very very icy, lots of eyes. lots of ice, very drive. i'll give _ very very icy, lots of eyes. lots of ice, very drive. i'll give you - ice, very drive. i'll give you another clue. it's ever so slightly distilled. . another clue. it's ever so slightly distilled.- n _ another clue. it's ever so slightly distilled.- n is _ another clue. it's ever so slightly distilled.- it is a _ another clue. it's ever so slightly distilled. jen? it is a jen. another clue. it's ever so slightly distilled. jen? it is ajen. it's another clue. it's ever so slightly distilled. jen? it is a jen. it's a white wine _ distilled. jen? it is a jen. it's a white wine and _ distilled. jen? it is a jen. it's a white wine and agn _ distilled. isi it is a jen. it's a white wine and agn ensemble. that is only $29. it's only the 45 that is so expensive. but i want to know, do you have any pictures of your self sarah, at home? pictures of you on your mantelpiece? ida. sarah, at home? pictures of you on your mantelpiece?— your mantelpiece? no, no i hate that. i your mantelpiece? no, no i hate that- ldo- _ your mantelpiece? no, no i hate that- l do- i— your mantelpiece? no, no i hate that. ido. i have _ your mantelpiece? no, no i hate that. i do. i have so _ your mantelpiece? no, no i hate that. i do. i have so many - your mantelpiece? no, no i hate i that. i do. i have so many pictures of myself- — that. i do. i have so many pictures of myself- i— that. i do. i have so many pictures of myself. i wonder _ that. i do. i have so many pictures of myself. i wonder what - that. i do. i have so many pictures of myself. i wonder what it - that. i do. i have so many pictures of myself. i wonder what it says i of myself. i wonder what it says about donald trump that there are 39 pictures of him, 39 pictures of him in this bar. what does that say about him? i in this bar. what does that say about him?— in this bar. what does that say about him? ., ., ., . ., about him? i have no idea. what could possibly — about him? i have no idea. what could possibly say, _ about him? i have no idea. what could possibly say, christian? i. could possibly say, christian? i love it — could possibly say, christian? i love it. ~ ., ., ., could possibly say, christian? i loveit. ~ .., ., . ., , could possibly say, christian? i loveit. ~ .., . . . , ., love it. megalomaniac, clearly. you think? what — love it. megalomaniac, clearly. you think? what do — love it. megalomaniac, clearly. you think? what do you _ love it. megalomaniac, clearly. you think? what do you think— love it. megalomaniac, clearly. you think? what do you think anthony? | think? what do you think anthony? i'm not surprised at all. remember this is a man who had a framed picture of him on the cover of time magazine hanging in his newjersey golf club when he hadn't even been on the cover of time magazine yet. i think there's a certain amount of egocentric perhaps. idistill think there's a certain amount of egocentric perhaps.— think there's a certain amount of egocentric perhaps. will you go to the bar? may _ egocentric perhaps. will you go to the bar? may is— egocentric perhaps. will you go to the bar? may is manifesting. - egocentric perhaps. will you go to l the bar? may is manifesting. maybe he is. the bar? may is manifesting. maybe he is- would — the bar? may is manifesting. maybe he is. would you _ the bar? may is manifesting. maybe he is. would you go _ the bar? may is manifesting. maybe he is. would you go to _ the bar? may is manifesting. maybe he is. would you go to the - the bar? may is manifesting. maybe he is. would you go to the bar, - he is. would you go to the bar, anthony? is up the road from you? no, i'll be in new york this weekend maybe i'll go there and give you a report. maybe i'll go there and give you a re ort. �* . maybe i'll go there and give you a re ort. �* , , ., report. i'm 'ust feeding you the stories. report. i'm just feeding you the stories. have _ report. i'm just feeding you the stories. have a _ report. i'm just feeding you the stories. have a 45 _ report. i'm just feeding you the stories. have a 45 on _ report. i'm just feeding you the stories. have a 45 on me, - report. i'm just feeding you the - stories. have a 45 on me, anthony. just don't send me the check. it's been so good. peppa, i hope you can come back. it's been so interested in getting your thoughts this evening particularly on such a big news day here in the uk. thank you both very much for being with us. tomorrow is the turn of president transformer campaign advisor, and formal labour wasn't looking forward to bolt. we will see you tomorrow same time. bye—bye. hello there. there's a lot of benign weather in this ten—day forecast thanks to high pressure which is going to dominate the weather scene, bringing a lot of dry and settled weather, with some sunshine around, but we'll also have some frost and fog at night, particularly across england and wales, where the fog could be very dense, stubborn to clear, and could cause some issues over the next few days. so some disruption is possible. stay tuned to bbc local radio or to subsequent weather forecasts. and the reason for it is because of this large blocking area of high pressure. very light winds across the south of the country, a bit more of a breeze further north, so here we won't have any problems with fog. some cloud around, one or two showers, otherwise largely dry. we start off with dense fog patches across parts of england and wales tomorrow morning, some of it stubborn to clear, and if it does linger around, its going to feel very cold indeed. winds will be light — no wind at all, really, to speak of to shift that fog, whereas further north will have more of a breeze, those mean wind—speed gusts could be a little bit higher. but it's milder here, 10—11 celsius. further south, where the sunshine comes out, 6—8 celsius, colder than that where we hold on to the fog. the fog re—forms again as we move through thursday night, could be quite dense and extensive once again. bit more of a breeze. some showery bursts of rain for the far north of scotland, tied in with this weather front. but it's high pressure dominating the scene. as we head on into friday, you can see very few isobars around, so it's going to be a really foggy one to start friday morning, and again some of that fog really dense in places — could cause some trouble with travel, roads and airports in fact. could see a bit more cloud around generally on friday across the north of the country, the odd shower. most places, though, will be dry. now, where you have the sunshine, it will feel quite pleasant, but where the fog lingers temperatures may struggle to get much above freezing, so it will be grey, foggy and cold all day. but these are the sorts of temperatures we'll see when the sunshine comes out — range from 5—9 celsius, again 10 celsius there for stornoway. for the weekend, then, little change. it's going to be mostly dry and settled, thanks to the high pressure. could start to see some lower pressure or a few weather fronts pushing in from the west, and this could bring one or two showers mainly to north—western parts of the country, so this is the pressure set—up for saturday. you can see many places starting dry again. there could be some mist and fog around across england and wales. variable amounts of cloud, some sunshine, just the chance of a few showers getting into western areas later on. i think most places should stay dry throughout the day. temperatures around the seasonal norm, 5—8 celsius. this weather front could bring more showery rain to the north and west of the country through sunday, so i think sunday looking like being probably the better chance of catching some showers around, mainly in northern and western areas. i think largely dry further east. variable cloud, some spells of sunshine, and again, temperatures around the seasonal norm, i think topping out at around 8—9 for many. could see 10 celsius across the far south—west. now, beyond sunday into next week the outlook is for high pressure to dominate the scene once again, keeping weather fronts out at bay. so again with light winds we could see problems with mist and fog, and towards the end of next week, another area of high pressure moving down from the north—west. this could bring a colder influx of airfor a time across northern and eastern areas. but the temperatures i think will be flip—flopping at times. of course, it will feel colder where you hold on to mist and fog. this is the general outlook next week of weather. variable cloud, little bit of sunshine around, mist and fog could become a problem, and temperatures around the seasonal norm, could be colder at times. tonight at ten, for the first time, borisjohnson admits he did attend a drinks party at number ten during the first lockdown. he went to tell mps he regretted what happened, but he still insisted the gathering, in his view, was a work event. i regret the way the event i have described was handled. i bitterly regret it and wish that we could have done things differently, and i have and will continue to apologise for what we did. but many mps were incensed by the prime minister's suggestion that the gathering had been within the rules in a technical sense. the party's over, prime minister. the only question is, will the british public kick him out, will his party kick him out, or will he do the decent thing and resign? cheering

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