to to her questioning you again about this? all that s subject for an investigation by sue gray. it s absolutely right that the prime minister moved swiftly to commission that independent inquiry by miss gray. and all i ask is that sue gray be allowed to complete her inquiry into that day and several others so that the full facts can be established. let s bring in caroline slocock, the first woman to serve as a private secretary in number ten, working for two conservative prime ministers margaret thatcher and john major. she is the first woman to hold that position. thanks for being with us. i read today that in the nineteen eighties, sue grey paused her stellar civil service career to buy a pub in ireland in the midst of the troubles. so that tells me she s no pushover, am i right? she troubles. so that tells me she s no pushover, am i right? pushover, am i right? she could lavishly pull pushover, am i right? she could lavishly pull a pushover, am i right? she could lavishly pul