recruited and groomed by ghislaine maxwell into jeffrey recruited and groomed by ghislaine maxwell intojeffrey epstein�*s web, but it was helpful for these women to have men on the stand, people who work for them, also testifying that the recollections matched the recollections of these young victims who were 14, 15 years old, and it is been 20 years for them and they made a have the strong as memory, so i think the case that the prosecution presented was strong. the amount of time the jury took to deliberate meant they were taken on the details very seriously, and i think ultimatelyjustice very seriously, and i think ultimately justice was served. very seriously, and i think ultimatelyjustice was served. find ultimately 'ustice was served. and et for ultimatelyjustice was served. and et for the ultimatelyjustice was served. and yet for the victims, _ ultimatelyjustice was served. and yet for the victims, the survivors, the evidence they had to go through, they must�*ve looked and saw somebody who wasn't currently wealthy n was —— was incredibly wealthy and well—connected and must�*ve doubted whetherjustice well—connected and must�*ve doubted whether justice would well—connected and must�*ve doubted whetherjustice would be done at. that is absolutely the feeling these women must have had, that hope was lost when jeffrey epstein died women must have had, that hope was lost whenjeffrey epstein died in prison, and it took a year for the feds to essentially find ghislaine maxwell and serve her and to bring her into custody, and for that period of time — that was when i was working on the podcast and i interviewed virginia defray, so many of these girls who decided not to be jane to and put their names forward —— virginia giuffre. they were associated with ghislaine maxwell or jeffrey epstein, including even the royalfamily, so a member of jeffrey epstein, including even the royal family, so a member of the royal family, so a member of the royalfamily, so so many royal family, so a member of the royal family, so so many people wanted to sort of go away and these women were so brave and kept beating the drum and telling their stories to whoever would listen. i personally knocked on the door of one of the witnesses in the case, the houseman, with virginia roberts and she said, i would love for you to help me in this case, we need you to come out and speak about what you saw, the same thing with one of the chefs that was working forjeffrey epstein. they understood the need to some third—party witnesses that would be willing to take the stand and recall what they saw and match the stories from their youth.- the stories from their youth. some ofthe the stories from their youth. some of the evidence _ the stories from their youth. some of the evidence was _ the stories from their youth. some of the evidence was picked - the stories from their youth. some of the evidence was picked apart . the stories from their youth. some of the evidence was picked apart in a way that you would expect the defence to do, but must being fairly traumatic for people, for these women who have lived through these horrendous crimes against them, and then to be accused of being able to cry on command, to be called an actress, and then for the defence witness to say people's memory can be falsified and memories... i agree with ou, be falsified and memories... i agree with you. and _ be falsified and memories... i agree with you. and i _ be falsified and memories... i agree with you, and i think— be falsified and memories... i agree with you, and i think that _ be falsified and memories... i agree with you, and i think that is - with you, and i think that is the most painful part about all of it. it is a typical defence tactic, to poke holes in the story of survivors, but trauma is something thatis survivors, but trauma is something that is life—changing and i'm sure so many of these women worked hard to forget what happened, and now they're being told to remember it and tell it to the world? just about every day, they had to forget the trauma they lived through. also, in these six were back trafficking operations, the predators — in this case, ghislaine maxwell and jeffrey epstein — they specifically found people who were from broken families, people who were poor, maybe they were ambitious, but there was something they needed and ghislaine maxwell and jeffrey epstein saw that as an opportunity to prey on these young impressionable women, and they had to live with this the rest of their lives. it took a lot of bravery was top notch is for the women who testified, but the women in the media, talking about their stories and continuing to preside with lawsuits, it has been really hard but i think collective the as a whole, there are so many of them, they call themselves survivor sisters... sadly, the operation was huge, but there are so money women out there with the same story supporting themselves. the build-up to this trial for _ supporting themselves. the build-up to this trial for them _ supporting themselves. the build-up to this trial for them would _ supporting themselves. the build-up to this trial for them would have - to this trial for them would have been a pivotal moment, especially what we have seen in the last hour or so, that verdict of the jury coming through of guilty on five of the six counts, ijust wonder what happens to those women now, because there must be a sense of, there has been so much build—up to this, it is a moment when they have long awaited for it. how do they move forward from here? what do they do from now on to try and put this behind them and rebuild their lives? i on to try and put this behind them and rebuild their lives?— and rebuild their lives? i think they have _ and rebuild their lives? i think they have been _ and rebuild their lives? i think they have been doing - and rebuild their lives? i think they have been doing that - and rebuild their lives? i think they have been doing that for| and rebuild their lives? i thinkl they have been doing that for a and rebuild their lives? i think- they have been doing that for a very long time, they have been trying to find justice for so long, and this is the first time did the justice system has done that for them, because as we knowjeffrey epstein very least served any time in prison. he got non——— his accomplices got nonprosecution agreements. there were so many who may never be held to account and thatis may never be held to account and that is something these women are going to have to live with. the other difficult part about the story is thatjeffrey epstein used these vulnerable girls to recruit other vulnerable girls to recruit other vulnerable women and so a lot of them feel like they are somehow complicit in this, not really understanding that they were children, that they were being manipulated, and there are still a lot of women living in the shadows we have more stories about more people who helped jeffrey epstein recruit and sexually abuse young women because of the story is not over. i think this isjust women because of the story is not over. i think this is just the tip of the iceberg and it is just the beginning. of the iceberg and it is 'ust the beginningfi of the iceberg and it is 'ust the beaainnin. ., ., ., ., ~ beginning. 0k, tara palmieri, thank ou ve beginning. 0k, tara palmieri, thank you very much _ beginning. 0k, tara palmieri, thank you very much for — beginning. 0k, tara palmieri, thank you very much for speaking - beginning. 0k, tara palmieri, thank you very much for speaking to - beginning. 0k, tara palmieri, thank you very much for speaking to us. . you very much for speaking to us. thank you. we can now speak to sam lister, political editor at the daily express. your reaction? is obviously such an im ortant your reaction? is obviously such an important verdict _ your reaction? is obviously such an important verdict for _ your reaction? is obviously such an important verdict for the _ your reaction? is obviously such an important verdict for the women i important verdict for the women abused, but also a real warning to the rich and powerful that they are not above the lawful stub that said, this has taken many, many years to come to this point, but obviously a very difficult trial, but i am sure the women involved must be relieved at this verdict tonight. find the women involved must be relieved at this verdict tonight.— at this verdict tonight. and this is at this verdict tonight. and this is a trail that _ at this verdict tonight. and this is a trail that has _ at this verdict tonight. and this is a trail that has lasted _ at this verdict tonight. and this is a trail that has lasted some - at this verdict tonight. and this is l a trail that has lasted some weeks, there was the break over the christmas period, and i suppose from your point of view, as someone involved in publishing a newspaper, you are watching closely for this, the time it has come through, is it possible to reflected in your additions in the morning? 0r possible to reflected in your additions in the morning? or what happens with that? it is additions in the morning? or what happens with that?— happens with that? it is very difficult, obviously, - happens with that? it is very difficult, obviously, because| happens with that? it is very i difficult, obviously, because it happens with that? it is very - difficult, obviously, because it has come through so late at night, but at least the verdict and the initial take will make the first additions, second edition tomorrow, but certainly if you look on the newspaper websites tonight, they have all got their own take already. in the times, it does reflect the impact it will have on the duke of york and the concerns that will raise in the palace, so i'll beastly a lot of very quick reaction out there on newspaper websites tonight. —— so obviously. and how much interest has there been in this case? i5 interest has there been in this case? , . . . , interest has there been in this case? ,, ._ , case? is a case, essentially, it is a really difficult _ case? is a case, essentially, it is a really difficult case _ case? is a case, essentially, it is a really difficult case because - a really difficult case because there were so many really disturbing and terrible things that happened in this, people actually do struggle to read it. it is such a difficult subject matter, that it is hard for people to engage with in some respects, but i think people do want to know thatjustice is served and they want to see people being held to account for such a boring crimes. and then we look ahead to the fact that there is a separate, and it is a civil case, against prince andrew connected with jeffrey a civil case, against prince andrew connected withjeffrey epstein —— up —— abhorrence crimes. how much interest is there in that? tim interest is there in that? our readers are _ interest is there in that? our readers are always _ interest is there in that? cl" readers are always very interested in royal matters, and this is no exception. as i say, looking around on the reaction from the newspapers tonight, online, there is certainly a lot of interest in the duke of york and that side of things, and people are pointing out that, actually, jurors around... nobody will be able to forget the verdict they have heard here tonight. verdict they have heard here toniaht. ., ., verdict they have heard here toniaht. ., ~ i. , verdict they have heard here toniaht. ., ,, ,, , . tonight. 0k, thank you very much indeed, tonight. 0k, thank you very much indeed. sam _ tonight. 0k, thank you very much indeed, sam lister, _ tonight. ok, thank you very much indeed, sam lister, political- tonight. 0k, thank you very much l indeed, sam lister, political editor of the daily express newspaper. let's just remind you of the breaking news this hour, that a jury in the united states has found the british socialite ghislaine maxwell guilty on five of the six charges she was facing, of helping the late financierjeffrey epstein sexually abused teenage girls. she is 60 years old. for the most serious of those guilty verdicts, she faces a0 years in prison, but with the others, it is thought she could face up others, it is thought she could face up to 70 years in prison, suspending the rest of her days behind bars. she was found guilty on five counts in all, connected with procuring the victims and facilitating the abuse that was carried out byjeffrey epstein, the late financier. she was found not guilty on one that other conference of those verdicts, coming through the last hour or so, bringing to a close a trial which has lasted some weeks and capture the attention of people notjust in the attention of people notjust in the united states but indeed around the united states but indeed around the world. this is bbc news. thanks for watching. hello there. earlier today, we saw temperatures reaching 16 celsius in southampton, and also here in exeter in devon. it's very mild air that's come our way today that's followed a band of rain that's been sweeping away towards the northeast. it remains unsettled in the next few days, some rain at times, some stronger winds too, the main feature of the weatherjust how mild it's going to be as we head into the new year. now, we could reach 17 celsius across some parts of england in the next few days — bear in mind the average is near eight celsius at this time of the year. it could be the warmest new year's eve and new year's day on record. there is still some rain in the forecast, and after a brief respite, we are going to find wetter weather developing overnight as the cloud thickens. especially in western areas, and it turns wetter here. we've still got these brisk south to south—westerly wind, and temperatures aren't going to drop very much at all tonight, very mild. much milder than last night in the northeast of scotland. but tomorrow does start cloudy, we've got some rain around first thing. it pushes eastwards, but there won't be much rain for the eastern side of the uk. we will see the cloud thickening to bring some rain back into the southwest, into wales, perhaps the west midlands. ahead of that, though, could be some sunshine for eastern scotland and the northeast of england. quite a windy day again during tomorrow, very mild, of course, much milder than today across northern scotland where it's also going to be drier than it's been today as well. we will see rain pushing northwards and eastwards overnight. that should be tending to move away during friday. could lingerfor a while in southern scotland and the northeast of england, but the trend is for it to become drier and brighter on friday, and the winds will start to ease down as well. still very mild, not quite as mild, perhaps, in scotland on friday, but i6—i7 celsius towards the southeast and east anglia. why is it so mild? it's because the air is coming all the way from the tropics, these southerly winds bringing in higher temperatures, a lot of cloud, ahead of these weather fronts, an area of low pressure that's focusing the wet weather more towards the northwest of the uk. you are going to be seeing in the new year, away from here, there's a good chance it's going to be dry, and all areas will be exceptionally mild. we've still got some wet weather to come on new year's day. more towards northern ireland, northwest england and scotland, that is pushing away towards the northeast. it's brightening up during the day with some sunshine, a few showers coming in. quite a windy day, i think, on saturday, but, of course, it will be very mild everywhere, ia celsius in glasgow, i6 celsius in london. this is bbc news with the latest headlines for viewers in the uk and around the world. the british socialite ghislaine maxwell is found guilty on five counts of grooming and trafficking teenage girls for abuse by a jury in new york. maxwell procured the girls for the financier and convicted sex offenderjeffrey epstein — she faces the rest of her life behind bars. it doesn't matter who you are, no matter what kind of circles you travel in, no matter how much money you have, no matter how many years have passed since the sexual abuse, justice is still possible. we'll be looking at the implications of the verdict for prince andrew, who is named in a lawsuit brought by a woman who says she was groomed by maxwell and abused by the prince.