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Transcripts For BBCNEWS BBC News 20240709



hello and welcome if you're watching in the uk or around the world. archbishop desmond tutu, who helped end the racial segregation and discrimination of south africa's apartheid era, has died aged 90. a friend of nelson mandela, he was awarded the nobel peace prize in 1984 for campaigning against apartheid. the south african president, cyril ramaphosa, said the death marked another chapter in the nation's farewell to a "generation of outstanding south africans". 0ur africa correspondent, andrew harding, looks back at his life. raise our hands and we say, we will be free! desmond tutu was a man of hope. a south african priest who became one of the world's great moral voices. it was during south africa's long and violent struggle against white minority rule that desmond tutu rose to prominence. a diminutive priest, defying the apartheid government, comparing them to the nazis. the system of this country, apartheid, is immoral! the system of this country is evil! while nelson mandela was imprisoned for decades, desmond tutu became the face and voice of south africa's liberation movement. desmond tutu was somebody at the height of the anti—apartheid struggle who, when nelson mandela and his leadership comrades in the freedom struggle were locked up on robben island, ouseu — the faithful, inspired people. desmond tutu was fearless, condemning the brutal apartheid state, but also urging black south africans to shun violence, to remain united. in 1984 desmond tutu was awarded the nobel peace prize. and he used his global prominence to criticise britain and america for being too soft on the apartheid government. when freedom finally arrived in south africa, tutu did not fade into the background. instead, often in tears, he presided over a truth and reconciliation commission, shining a light on apartheid's victims and its perpetrators. in later years, tutu continue to speak out, condemning corruption, criticising south africa's own liberation heroes when iam warning, i am warning you. that we will pray and we will we pray for the downfall of the apartheid government, we will pray for the downfall of the government that misrepresents us. desmond tutu was that rare thing, a truly independent, truly fearless moralfigure, but never a gloomy one. he said to me once that when he dies he hopes the epitaph will be very clear, desmond tutu loved, he laughed and he was a man of tremendous joy. the one thing that helps desmond tutu stand out and occupy this unique place in south african history is that he was there at every step of the way, through this country's tortuous journey from apartheid to democracy and beyond with that clear, sometimes laughing voice, a man defined above all by his sense of hope. archbishop desmond tutu who has died at the age of 90. here in the uk, the queen has paid tribute to tutu. she said... "i am joined by the whole royal family in being deeply "saddened by the news of the death of archbishop desmond tutu, "a man who tirelessly championed human rights in south africa "and across the world. "i remember with fondness my meetings with him "and his great warmth and humour." tributes have also been coming in from leaders around the world. former us president, barack 0bama, has posted on twitter saying, "archbishop desmond tutu was a mentor, a friend, and a moral "compass for me and so many others. "a universal spirit, archbishop tutu was grounded in the struggle "for liberation and justice in his own country, "but also concerned with injustice everywhere." the president of south africa, cyril ramaphosa, said, "the passing "of archbishop desmond tutu is another chapter of bereavement "in our nation's farewell to a generation of outstanding "south africans who have bequeathed us a liberated south africa." and the uk prime minister, borisjohnson said he was "deeply "saddened to hear of the death of archbishop desmond tutu. "he was a critical figure in the fight against apartheid "and in the struggle to create a new south africa — "and will be remembered for his spiritual leadership "and irrepressible good humour." most serco is our correspondent in soweto and is outside desmond tutu's home. she told me more about how the community has responded. —— nomsa maseko. many people are saying ilanga selishonile, which loosely translated means that the sun has set on south africa. desmond tutu was a towering figure, a unifying figure who often left in the face of adversity. but even at times, you know, risked his own life to ensure that there was no bloodshed even during those dark days of apartheid. but he was also a man who never shied away from criticising the government of the day, especially when it came to issues of corruption. he was clearly very angry as he expressed himself at the time president zuma was in office and when there were a series of allegations. did that create difficulties for him, do you think? because until that point he had been regarded as someone who had stood shoulder to shoulder with some of those other big figures. but here he was calling out corruption, maintaining his consistency, but perhaps also then challenging the leadership of the party that had helped to end apartheid. he was heavily criticised and even sidelined by the governing anc with some leaders in the anc saying that he thinks that he is a deputy jesus christ because of the moral compass that, you know, he had, especially in the country. but also the fact that not only did he speak out on political issues but also on issues like hiv—aids and homophobia, even going as far as he would not go to church. he would rather stay home than to praise a homophobic god. those are some of the things that he said. he is deeply remembered here by many who have gathered outside the house which was his many years ago, people laying a wreaths here and even lighting candles and speaking of the memories that they used to have of him, seeing him jogging up—and—down the street, going to buy newspapers with his wife, and even walking down to the anglican church here in soweto. some lovely memories coming in from soweto, in our coverage of the life and death of desmond tutu. the bodies of 16 iraqi kurds who drowned when their inflatable boat sank last month in the channel while trying to reach england have been returned to northern iraq. burial services have taken place in irbil. the majority of the 29 people who died in the incident were iraqi kurds. an estimated 40,000 people from the region left for europe in the past year alone, using clandestine routes. those burials have taken place in northern iraq. you're watching bbc news. new covid restrictions have come into force in scotland, wales and northern ireland to try to halt the surge in infections of the 0micron variant. curbs have been introduced on the hospitality and leisure industry including social distancing rules and limits on the size of gatherings. boris johnson hasn't announced any further restrictions in england. tomas morgan has this report. another winter and another set of restrictions. social life will be curtailed yet again in wales, scotland, and northern ireland as the devolved governments have brought restrictions in again as an attempt to slow the spread of the 0micron variant to ease pressure on the nhs and to give more people the opportunity to be boosted at mass vaccination centres. having only reopened less then six months ago, nightclubs will have to turn their lights off once again in both wales and northern ireland from today. some industry bosses feel like they're being made scapegoats in this latest round of rules. we've essentially had four and a half months of trade and we're back here again. and the issue is, we are not clear when this will be lifted. we have not been provided yet with any data on why this sector particularly has been closed and what conditions will need to be met for the sector to be reopened again. restrictions on large events and spectator sports will also apply from today in wales and scotland. the premier league brought forward their break in scotland due to measures limiting fan attendance. across all hospitality venues the rule of six is back in wales as a social distancing. smaller tables mean smaller profits and two metres means fewer guests. the mean smaller profits and two metres means fewer guests.— means fewer guests. the two-metre rule has a massive _ means fewer guests. the two-metre rule has a massive effect _ means fewer guests. the two-metre rule has a massive effect on - rule has a massive effect on capacity. we have had to phone a few people and unfortunately cancel people and unfortunately cancel people for new year's eve. iuruihiile people for new year's eve. while restrictions _ people for new year's eve. while restrictions in _ people for new year's eve. while restrictions in northern _ people for new year's eve. while restrictions in northern ireland i people for new year's eve. while restrictions in northern ireland and its scottish pubs and restaurants come into force tomorrow, the stormont executive said they would keep the measures under review. whilst first minister nicola sturgeon told the public theirs would be in place for at least three weeks. meanwhile, her counterpart further south mark drakeford said rules would be reviewed frequently. his next free weekly assessment is due the end ofjanuary. his next free weekly assessment is due the end of january. with large events due to be attended by thousands of people across the uk called off, it looks like this new year's eve will be just as subdued as the last. tomos morgan, bbc news. the number of flights that have been cancelled worldwide over the christmas weekend because of the 0micron coronavirus variant has risen to more than 7,000. flight operators said many pilots and crew were testing positive for the virus. that is a big part of the problem. let's get more from our reporter who can bring us up to date with the latest. most of the disruption is caused by coronavirus in various forms and there has been a bit of disruption because of adverse weather conditions and when it comes to coronavirus it is having a big on china, a city is in lockdown, that's 13 million people, and that is the most disruptive in terms of how many flights leave from the city have been cancelled. 0ther flights leave from the city have been cancelled. other cities in china have also seen lots of disruption impact, six out of the seven most disrupted airports in the world are in china. they include beijing, shanghai and the authorities there are obviously mindful, it is suspected that this outbreak in may have come from a flight and they are worried about the spread ahead of the olympics that start in beijing in a few weeks' time. elsewhere there have been lots of disruptions in the united states because airlines are finding themselves without enough staff to run their operations properly and that means they have had to cancel flights. typically, united airlines, one of the big three, have told me that has been a nationwide spike in 0micron cases having a direct impact on their flight crews which meant flight cancellations have had to happen. they are sorry for the destruction of course. in terms of where the disruption has been committed be new york, atlanta and los angeles. they are most heavily affected. they are the places with the most flights to start with. other us carriers had big problems. delta said it has cancelled more than 300 flights today so far and is expecting more cancellations. so widespread disruption including on some transatlantic flights. so disruption including on some transatlantic flights. so there must be a worry now _ transatlantic flights. so there must be a worry now that _ transatlantic flights. so there must be a worry now that this _ transatlantic flights. so there must be a worry now that this is - transatlantic flights. so there must be a worry now that this is a - transatlantic flights. so there must be a worry now that this is a sign i be a worry now that this is a sign of things to come, jonathan. i{finite of things to come, jonathan. quite likel , of things to come, jonathan. quite likely. lucy- _ of things to come, jonathan. quite likely, lucy. there _ of things to come, jonathan. quite likely, lucy. there has _ of things to come, jonathan. quite likely, lucy. there has been - of things to come, jonathan. quite likely, lucy. there has been a - likely, lucy. there has been a growing number of flight cancellations as the number of cases of 0micron have spiked, and this is something that is a worry across europe, where there are more restrictions in terms of the freedoms allowed to be and the ability to travel. but airlines have seen this coming to a degree. the head of delta ed bastian wrote a letter to the us authorities, to the centre for disease can last week warning of the significant disruptions that 0micron restrictions and isolation conditions may well cause to his airline in terms of staff being available to crew flights. airlines around the world are struggling because they have less resources at their disposal. a lot of them have reduced the size of their operations because of coronavirus, since the pandemic started they have cut the amount of flights they operate, they have less staff and there is less ability to absorb this sort of disruption. ability to absorb this sort of disruption-_ ability to absorb this sort of disruption-— ability to absorb this sort of disru tion. , , ., disruption. this is the thing for the airlines, _ disruption. this is the thing for the airlines, they _ disruption. this is the thing for the airlines, they have - disruption. this is the thing for the airlines, they have had - disruption. this is the thing for| the airlines, they have had such disruption. this is the thing for i the airlines, they have had such a tough time already all through the pandemic and this must be the last thing they need right now. absolutely, airlines in the us and europe and other parts of the world are looking at their schedules for the next few weeks trying to reassess them, do they need to run so many flights? how much excess capacity is there? altogether the airline industry has lost around $200 billion so far because of the pandemic, that's before 0micron came into play according to the international airlines transport association which represents about 286 of the world's biggest airlines. so there are big concerns and no doubt that if these restrictions from governments continue the airlines will be calling for more financial support in the weeks to come. , ., ., ., ., financial support in the weeks to come. ., ., ., . ., come. jonathan, thanks so much for the update. — come. jonathan, thanks so much for the update, jonathan _ come. jonathan, thanks so much for the update, jonathan joseph - come. jonathan, thanks so much for the update, jonathan joseph is - the update, jonathanjoseph is there. let's bring you some sport with a full round—up from the bbc sport centre. good evening. deja vu for england, we start with cricket because out in australia they have been bowled out for 185 on the opening day of the third ashes test in melbourne. it is a match england have to win to keep the series alive but it was the same old problem with the bat as our sports correspondentjoe wilson reports. a new match, new innings, a new beginning for nine minutes. haseeb hameed out for zero. england recalled zak crawley and pat cummins got him for 12 and that's why he won the toss and bowled. melbourne's boxing day test is a spectator occasion. it is a huge ground. proof of vaccination was required. no restrictions on the capacity. and no limits on pat cummins who got dawid malan for 14. butjoe root had the touches which put him in a different class, which took to 50, which made the next so disappointing. edged and caught and out, and why? joe root could not tell you. he couldn't believe it himself. ben stokes tried all sorts of shots. this was the last one, gone for 25. jos buttler on three was aiming for the boundary, presumably but got nowhere near it. there is a field, that's the catch. jonny bairstow was surprised on 35 and england were soon 185 all out. normal service resumed. according and even summon a gust of optimism? australia reached 61-1 in gust of optimism? australia reached 61—1 in reply. david one of them and dismissed. the final ball was almost another wicket. dismissed. the final ball was almost anotherwicket. but dismissed. the final ball was almost another wicket. but every almost must be a success when you are in this kind of mess. joe wilson, bbc news. england are in need of a comeback. leicester city nearly pulled one off today in what would have been one of the greatest stories in premier league history. ultimately they were beaten at manchester city where pep guardiola's side raced into a 4—0 lead before half an hour was even played and three points looked a formality. de bruyne, mahrez, gundogan, sterling with the goals. but in the second half the unthinkable started to happen, in a ten—minute period maddison, lookman, iheanacho all scored making it 4—3. but that was as far as the comeback got, sterling scored again and laporte making it 6—3, giving the champions breathing room again — and that's exactly what they've got at the top of the table, too, where they are six points clear. tottenham's good form continues. they are up to fifth after a 3—0 win over crystal palace — who were without manager patrick vieira because of covid. harry kane scored the first before a flying header from lucas moura made it two. spurs were well in control and soon after palace had wilfried zaha sent off. lucas moura's cross set up son heung min to score tottenham's third. they're still unbeaten in the premier league under antonio conte. arsenal remain six points ahead of spurs, strengthening their hold on fourth for now after thrashing norwich 5—0 at carrow road. bukayo sakha scored twice. west ham continue to slip down the table, a big result for southampton at the london stadium where they won 3—2. steven gerrard's not in the aston villa dugout this evening because of covid, they kick off shortly against chelsea. brighton v brentford is an 8pm kick—off. in pursuit of rangers at the top of the scottish premiership, celtic got a comfortable win at bottom side stjohnstone. abada scored twice in the first half to put celtic in control. chris kane had pulled one back for stjohnstone but nir bitton ended their hopes of a comeback. but rangers have re—established their six—point lead at the top of the table going into the winter break in scotland — after a 2—0 win over st mirren. also wins for aberdeen, hibs, hearts and motherwell. in rugby union's premiership leicester tigers maintained their perfect start to the season, with a dramatic win over bristol bears at ashton gate. with the clock in the red, the tigers scored in the fourth minute of added time to win by 28—26. guy porter with his first premiership try. that's now ten wins from ten for the tigers in the league this season — their best run for 21 years. and there was a big shock at kempton in the king george vi chase this afternoon. the 28—1 shot tornado flyer, ridden by danny mullins and trained by his uncle willie mullins, went on to finish nine lengths clear of the joint favourite clan des 0beaux, who was twice a winner in the past, with saint calvados third. that's all the sport for now. sportsday is at 6:30pm. but back to you now, lucy. thank you so much. let's return to our top story and the news of the death of archbishop desmond tutu. i'm joined now by the former prime minister gordon brown. it's good to see you. i know you encountered him as a friend. tell us about him. he encountered him as a friend. tell us about him. . , encountered him as a friend. tell us about him. ., , ., encountered him as a friend. tell us about him-— about him. he was one of the ureatest about him. he was one of the greatest people _ about him. he was one of the greatest people i've - about him. he was one of the greatest people i've ever- about him. he was one of the | greatest people i've ever met. about him. he was one of the - greatest people i've ever met. he and nelson mandela are the two leaders who ended apartheid. but you know that he was a teacher, he was a moral leader, he was a campaigner. when he walked into the room irradiated joy and light, yet he was one of the most modest and humble and people you could also meet. so he leaves behind a legacy, one of the last of the generation of people who told us that apartheid was wrong and stood up for human rights everywhere, and he never stopped doing that right throughout his life. he went into retirement in 2010 and then i know he came out of retirement to fight for human rights issues. he will never be forgotten as one of the great leaders of our time. s, , , as one of the great leaders of our time. , ,, ., ., as one of the great leaders of our time. , ., ., time. he was hugely passionate about education as — time. he was hugely passionate about education as well. _ time. he was hugely passionate about education as well. tell _ time. he was hugely passionate about education as well. tell us _ time. he was hugely passionate about education as well. tell us about - education as well. tell us about some of the experiences you had working with him around issues of education. e ., , education. when he retired as archbishop — education. when he retired as archbishop had _ education. when he retired as archbishop had moved - education. when he retired as archbishop had moved out. education. when he retired as archbishop had moved out of| education. when he retired as - archbishop had moved out of formal campaigning on the issues about the truth and reconciliation commission and the rainbow coalition which he talked about in south africa, he decided he wanted to educate every child in africa, so as a un envoy myself i worked with him as we tried to get more and more children into school and even now there are millions of children who are not yet going to school and are deprived of a childhood and he had this campaign to give every child a desk, so he had a desk that was full of information that he tried to get across africa. i remember him coming to the united nations to launch a campaign with me and i got a message that he had been kept outside the united nations because his name was not on the list and i went out thinking he'd be angry, but he was not admitted in, but he was so placid and so unassuming and so modest, hejust saw placid and so unassuming and so modest, he just saw it as an oversight and not anything that was to be worried about. he was that sort of guy, the life and soul of the party, but also someone who is completely modest and aware that every human being have something to offer, always wanting to find the goodin offer, always wanting to find the good in everyone, and of course wanting children in particular to get the chance of developing their potential to the full. he was simply a great human being. that's not only because he won the nobel prize, which he did, but throughout his full life he fought for things that he thought were important and would enhance the dignity of human beings. as you are remembering him you are smiling and we are watching pictures of him at the same time on the screen dancing and laughing as well. it seems an irrepressible humour is such a unique thing, given what he went through. such a unique thing, given what he went through-— such a unique thing, given what he went through. yes, and of course he could have — went through. yes, and of course he could have been _ went through. yes, and of course he could have been assassinated - went through. yes, and of course he could have been assassinated during these terrible anti—apartheid years. he was very controversial when he stood out against some of the things that even nelson mandela who was a great friend of his had done. he spoke out about human rights, he believed, for example, in assisted dying, he believed in supporting gay rights, he was not someone who was a traditional person in the sense that he held to the old views, he was prepared to look at the future and what the ideas of the future yielded. so he was a very modern person, and having started off, i think, as a teacher before he became an archbishop, or a think, as a teacher before he became an archbishop, ora bishop think, as a teacher before he became an archbishop, or a bishop and ben an archbishop, or a bishop and ben an archbishop, or a bishop and ben an archbishop, i think he always wanted to be both learning and educating the younger generation. that is really how i will remember him, as the person who was so kind to everybody he met, subservient to no one but treated everybody equally. and you know that's a great test of the humanity of an individual. and i think he represented that to such a great degree that he will never be forgotten. he will always be missed, and of course he has a very special place because without him and nelson mandela perhaps apartheid would have lasted for many, many more years. and as you talk about the many issues he was passionate about and involved in, do you think you can even begin to measure his influence? i think when he talked about the rainbow coalition in south africa, he talked about everybody coming together, south africa could have endedin together, south africa could have ended in bloodshed with the defence of white rule and the refusal to accept the end of apartheid, and even when mandela was about to become president there was always a danger that there would be civil war breaking out across south africa and tutu and mandela pleaded with people to put the recriminations behind and to put the recriminations behind and to reconcile, and that's why he chaired the truth and reconciliation commission. he was very honest and nobody dumb like many people did not tell the truth and he complained about that but he wanted people to find a way to live together. he was somebody who represents the best of human nature but equally somebody who had a vision of a world where people, despite any ideological and other differences, could come together and recognised they had more in common than what divided them. that is his legacy, that he wants people are different colours and different religions and different ideologies to find a way to work together. it’s different ideologies to find a way to work together.— to work together. it's a huge lea , to work together. it's a huge legacy. a _ to work together. it's a huge legacy, a massive _ to work together. it's a huge legacy, a massive one - to work together. it's a huge - legacy, a massive one command as to work together. it's a huge _ legacy, a massive one command as you have paid such a wonderful tribute to him i wonderfinally is there just one moment of connection that you had with him, or one memory that you had with him, or one memory that you have of him, that will remain with you particularly tonight? so with you particularly tonight? sr many with you particularly tonight? 5r many of with you particularly tonight? 5;r many of the with you particularly tonight? 5r many of the meetings because this is the radiating smile, it is the faith in the future, it is the human being himself who would never look down on anybody. he was never condescending. and so whether it is my young sons, or whether it was someone who was aged and elderly and a senior leader, he would treat everybody equally. that's how i remember him, subservient to no one because he knew that apartheid had treated people so unfairly, but he treated everybody equally. and yet he was such a modest human being that you couldn't fail to notice that he was bringing out the good in everybody. that's the person i remember. he was the most extraordinary _ that's the person i remember. he was the most extraordinary human - that's the person i remember. he was the most extraordinary human being l the most extraordinary human being and that is a wonderful tribute you have paid to him tonight. gordon brown, thank you very much for talking to us. some breaking news. a man who was arrested within the grounds of windsor castle on christmas day while in possession of a crossbow has been detained under the mental health act. the man entered the grounds but was not able to get into any buildings due to security. the 19—year—old man from southampton was arrested on suspicion of breach or trespass of a protected site and possession of an offensive weapon. the former bbc radio presenter janice long has died following a short illness. she was best known as a presenter on radio 1, radio 2, top of the pops and most recently on bbc radio wales. she died at home on christmas day surrounded by her family. the bbc�*s director general said she was a stellar presenter who was loved and respected across the industry. many tributes being paid to her today. joining me now is ian mcnabb — band member of the icicle works and good friend ofjanice. we are sending you our condolences on what must be such a sad christmas for you, on what must be such a sad christmas foryou, learning on what must be such a sad christmas for you, learning of the death of janice. what was she like? she was the best friend _ janice. what was she like? she was the best friend that _ janice. what was she like? she was the best friend that you _ janice. what was she like? she was the best friend that you could - janice. what was she like? she was the best friend that you could hope| the best friend that you could hope to have, i knew herfor 40 years, exactly 40 years, and she started out on bbc radio merseyside. she had a programme called street life, which went out on a sunday night and she would play all the local acts. she gave everybody a chance, she loved music. i remember after our first interview on the show, as soon as the show finished we were next door in the pub and a friendship was cemented for life. she loved music, she really wanted to be able to play music, but as with many great broadcasters and music writers she did the next best thing, which was promote as many musical things that she enjoyed that she didn't think other people would get to hear unless she presented it. but you know, i don't think ofjanice as a broadcaster. it's been really incredible today to see the massive outpouring of love forjanice long, broadcaster. you know, she's my friend. i wish she could see the immense amount of love coming her way today. she immense amount of love coming her wa toda . ,, s, , immense amount of love coming her wa toda. ,, , . ., way today. she was such a trailblazer _ way today. she was such a trailblazer in _ way today. she was such a trailblazer in the _ way today. she was such a trailblazer in the industry i way today. she was such a l trailblazer in the industry as way today. she was such a - trailblazer in the industry as well, lots of people are talking about how important she was, one of the first women to hold so many of the positions she held as well. did she see herself in that way? i positions she held as well. did she see herself in that way?— see herself in that way? i wouldn't think that she — see herself in that way? i wouldn't think that she is _ see herself in that way? i wouldn't think that she is thought _ see herself in that way? i wouldn't think that she is thought of - see herself in that way? i wouldn'tj think that she is thought of herself as a trailblazer. like i said, she was just as a trailblazer. like i said, she wasjust simply a as a trailblazer. like i said, she was just simply a fan of what she did. she was so enthusiastic. she went to gig is often not phoning ahead to let them know that she was coming and she'd buy tickets. she was a fan like the rest of us. i know that when she first went to national bbc radio and tv, she was one of the only, i think there was only two lady presenters at that time and she was one of them. she got to do some on live aid. 0ne time and she was one of them. she got to do some on live aid. one of the last times i spoke to her we were just having a casual conversation. she was going," i went to the school because paul mccartney was doing pass the prize and stuff and he tapped me on the shoulder and came up and started talking to me. i couldn't believe it." i said, have you met him before. and she said, yeah, loads of times. and she said, yeah, loads of times. and she said, yeah, but i still couldn't believe it. . �* , yeah, but i still couldn't believe it. . �*, t, ., , yeah, but i still couldn't believe it. that's a lovely story. she busily had — it. that's a lovely story. she busily had an _ it. that's a lovely story. she busily had an instinct - it. that's a lovely story. she busily had an instinct of- it. that's a lovely story. she | busily had an instinct of what it. that's a lovely story. she - busily had an instinct of what made great music and what talent was. that's unusual, isn't it?— that's unusual, isn't it? huge. absolutely _ that's unusual, isn't it? huge. absolutely unusual. _ that's unusual, isn't it? huge. absolutely unusual. she - that's unusual, isn't it? huge. absolutely unusual. she was l absolutely unusual. she was incredibly proud of coming from liverpool. she was lucky, as were my self and other artists around that time, that the spotlight had definitely fallen on liverpool once again and she was in the right place to kind of push that forward. you know, she was just always wanting to help you. even in the darkest moments she'd call you up, and we'd have some wonderful late night conversations putting the world to write that nobody would ever get to hear. she was incredibly funny and i'm

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hello and welcome if you're watching in the uk or around the world. archbishop desmond tutu, who helped end the racial segregation and discrimination of south africa's apartheid era, has died aged 90. a friend of nelson mandela, he was awarded the nobel peace prize in 1984 for campaigning against apartheid. the south african president, cyril ramaphosa, said the death marked another chapter in the nation's farewell to a "generation of outstanding south africans". 0ur africa correspondent, andrew harding, looks back at his life. raise our hands and we say, we will be free! desmond tutu was a man of hope. a south african priest who became one of the world's great moral voices. it was during south africa's long and violent struggle against white minority rule that desmond tutu rose to prominence. a diminutive priest, defying the apartheid government, comparing them to the nazis. the system of this country, apartheid, is immoral! the system of this country is evil! while nelson mandela was imprisoned for decades, desmond tutu became the face and voice of south africa's liberation movement. desmond tutu was somebody at the height of the anti—apartheid struggle who, when nelson mandela and his leadership comrades in the freedom struggle were locked up on robben island, ouseu — the faithful, inspired people. desmond tutu was fearless, condemning the brutal apartheid state, but also urging black south africans to shun violence, to remain united. in 1984 desmond tutu was awarded the nobel peace prize. and he used his global prominence to criticise britain and america for being too soft on the apartheid government. when freedom finally arrived in south africa, tutu did not fade into the background. instead, often in tears, he presided over a truth and reconciliation commission, shining a light on apartheid's victims and its perpetrators. in later years, tutu continue to speak out, condemning corruption, criticising south africa's own liberation heroes when iam warning, i am warning you. that we will pray and we will we pray for the downfall of the apartheid government, we will pray for the downfall of the government that misrepresents us. desmond tutu was that rare thing, a truly independent, truly fearless moralfigure, but never a gloomy one. he said to me once that when he dies he hopes the epitaph will be very clear, desmond tutu loved, he laughed and he was a man of tremendous joy. the one thing that helps desmond tutu stand out and occupy this unique place in south african history is that he was there at every step of the way, through this country's tortuous journey from apartheid to democracy and beyond with that clear, sometimes laughing voice, a man defined above all by his sense of hope. archbishop desmond tutu who has died at the age of 90. here in the uk, the queen has paid tribute to tutu. she said... "i am joined by the whole royal family in being deeply "saddened by the news of the death of archbishop desmond tutu, "a man who tirelessly championed human rights in south africa "and across the world. "i remember with fondness my meetings with him "and his great warmth and humour." tributes have also been coming in from leaders around the world. former us president, barack 0bama, has posted on twitter saying, "archbishop desmond tutu was a mentor, a friend, and a moral "compass for me and so many others. "a universal spirit, archbishop tutu was grounded in the struggle "for liberation and justice in his own country, "but also concerned with injustice everywhere." the president of south africa, cyril ramaphosa, said, "the passing "of archbishop desmond tutu is another chapter of bereavement "in our nation's farewell to a generation of outstanding "south africans who have bequeathed us a liberated south africa." and the uk prime minister, borisjohnson said he was "deeply "saddened to hear of the death of archbishop desmond tutu. "he was a critical figure in the fight against apartheid "and in the struggle to create a new south africa — "and will be remembered for his spiritual leadership "and irrepressible good humour." most serco is our correspondent in soweto and is outside desmond tutu's home. she told me more about how the community has responded. —— nomsa maseko. many people are saying ilanga selishonile, which loosely translated means that the sun has set on south africa. desmond tutu was a towering figure, a unifying figure who often left in the face of adversity. but even at times, you know, risked his own life to ensure that there was no bloodshed even during those dark days of apartheid. but he was also a man who never shied away from criticising the government of the day, especially when it came to issues of corruption. he was clearly very angry as he expressed himself at the time president zuma was in office and when there were a series of allegations. did that create difficulties for him, do you think? because until that point he had been regarded as someone who had stood shoulder to shoulder with some of those other big figures. but here he was calling out corruption, maintaining his consistency, but perhaps also then challenging the leadership of the party that had helped to end apartheid. he was heavily criticised and even sidelined by the governing anc with some leaders in the anc saying that he thinks that he is a deputy jesus christ because of the moral compass that, you know, he had, especially in the country. but also the fact that not only did he speak out on political issues but also on issues like hiv—aids and homophobia, even going as far as he would not go to church. he would rather stay home than to praise a homophobic god. those are some of the things that he said. he is deeply remembered here by many who have gathered outside the house which was his many years ago, people laying a wreaths here and even lighting candles and speaking of the memories that they used to have of him, seeing him jogging up—and—down the street, going to buy newspapers with his wife, and even walking down to the anglican church here in soweto. some lovely memories coming in from soweto, in our coverage of the life and death of desmond tutu. the bodies of 16 iraqi kurds who drowned when their inflatable boat sank last month in the channel while trying to reach england have been returned to northern iraq. burial services have taken place in irbil. the majority of the 29 people who died in the incident were iraqi kurds. an estimated 40,000 people from the region left for europe in the past year alone, using clandestine routes. those burials have taken place in northern iraq. you're watching bbc news. new covid restrictions have come into force in scotland, wales and northern ireland to try to halt the surge in infections of the 0micron variant. curbs have been introduced on the hospitality and leisure industry including social distancing rules and limits on the size of gatherings. boris johnson hasn't announced any further restrictions in england. tomas morgan has this report. another winter and another set of restrictions. social life will be curtailed yet again in wales, scotland, and northern ireland as the devolved governments have brought restrictions in again as an attempt to slow the spread of the 0micron variant to ease pressure on the nhs and to give more people the opportunity to be boosted at mass vaccination centres. having only reopened less then six months ago, nightclubs will have to turn their lights off once again in both wales and northern ireland from today. some industry bosses feel like they're being made scapegoats in this latest round of rules. we've essentially had four and a half months of trade and we're back here again. and the issue is, we are not clear when this will be lifted. we have not been provided yet with any data on why this sector particularly has been closed and what conditions will need to be met for the sector to be reopened again. restrictions on large events and spectator sports will also apply from today in wales and scotland. the premier league brought forward their break in scotland due to measures limiting fan attendance. across all hospitality venues the rule of six is back in wales as a social distancing. smaller tables mean smaller profits and two metres means fewer guests. the mean smaller profits and two metres means fewer guests.— means fewer guests. the two-metre rule has a massive _ means fewer guests. the two-metre rule has a massive effect _ means fewer guests. the two-metre rule has a massive effect on - rule has a massive effect on capacity. we have had to phone a few people and unfortunately cancel people and unfortunately cancel people for new year's eve. iuruihiile people for new year's eve. while restrictions _ people for new year's eve. while restrictions in _ people for new year's eve. while restrictions in northern _ people for new year's eve. while restrictions in northern ireland i people for new year's eve. while restrictions in northern ireland and its scottish pubs and restaurants come into force tomorrow, the stormont executive said they would keep the measures under review. whilst first minister nicola sturgeon told the public theirs would be in place for at least three weeks. meanwhile, her counterpart further south mark drakeford said rules would be reviewed frequently. his next free weekly assessment is due the end ofjanuary. his next free weekly assessment is due the end of january. with large events due to be attended by thousands of people across the uk called off, it looks like this new year's eve will be just as subdued as the last. tomos morgan, bbc news. the number of flights that have been cancelled worldwide over the christmas weekend because of the 0micron coronavirus variant has risen to more than 7,000. flight operators said many pilots and crew were testing positive for the virus. that is a big part of the problem. let's get more from our reporter who can bring us up to date with the latest. most of the disruption is caused by coronavirus in various forms and there has been a bit of disruption because of adverse weather conditions and when it comes to coronavirus it is having a big on china, a city is in lockdown, that's 13 million people, and that is the most disruptive in terms of how many flights leave from the city have been cancelled. 0ther flights leave from the city have been cancelled. other cities in china have also seen lots of disruption impact, six out of the seven most disrupted airports in the world are in china. they include beijing, shanghai and the authorities there are obviously mindful, it is suspected that this outbreak in may have come from a flight and they are worried about the spread ahead of the olympics that start in beijing in a few weeks' time. elsewhere there have been lots of disruptions in the united states because airlines are finding themselves without enough staff to run their operations properly and that means they have had to cancel flights. typically, united airlines, one of the big three, have told me that has been a nationwide spike in 0micron cases having a direct impact on their flight crews which meant flight cancellations have had to happen. they are sorry for the destruction of course. in terms of where the disruption has been committed be new york, atlanta and los angeles. they are most heavily affected. they are the places with the most flights to start with. other us carriers had big problems. delta said it has cancelled more than 300 flights today so far and is expecting more cancellations. so widespread disruption including on some transatlantic flights. so disruption including on some transatlantic flights. so there must be a worry now _ transatlantic flights. so there must be a worry now that _ transatlantic flights. so there must be a worry now that this _ transatlantic flights. so there must be a worry now that this is - transatlantic flights. so there must be a worry now that this is a - transatlantic flights. so there must be a worry now that this is a sign i be a worry now that this is a sign of things to come, jonathan. i{finite of things to come, jonathan. quite likel , of things to come, jonathan. quite likely. lucy- _ of things to come, jonathan. quite likely, lucy. there _ of things to come, jonathan. quite likely, lucy. there has _ of things to come, jonathan. quite likely, lucy. there has been - of things to come, jonathan. quite likely, lucy. there has been a - likely, lucy. there has been a growing number of flight cancellations as the number of cases of 0micron have spiked, and this is something that is a worry across europe, where there are more restrictions in terms of the freedoms allowed to be and the ability to travel. but airlines have seen this coming to a degree. the head of delta ed bastian wrote a letter to the us authorities, to the centre for disease can last week warning of the significant disruptions that 0micron restrictions and isolation conditions may well cause to his airline in terms of staff being available to crew flights. airlines around the world are struggling because they have less resources at their disposal. a lot of them have reduced the size of their operations because of coronavirus, since the pandemic started they have cut the amount of flights they operate, they have less staff and there is less ability to absorb this sort of disruption. ability to absorb this sort of disruption-_ ability to absorb this sort of disruption-— ability to absorb this sort of disru tion. , , ., disruption. this is the thing for the airlines, _ disruption. this is the thing for the airlines, they _ disruption. this is the thing for the airlines, they have - disruption. this is the thing for the airlines, they have had - disruption. this is the thing for| the airlines, they have had such disruption. this is the thing for i the airlines, they have had such a tough time already all through the pandemic and this must be the last thing they need right now. absolutely, airlines in the us and europe and other parts of the world are looking at their schedules for the next few weeks trying to reassess them, do they need to run so many flights? how much excess capacity is there? altogether the airline industry has lost around $200 billion so far because of the pandemic, that's before 0micron came into play according to the international airlines transport association which represents about 286 of the world's biggest airlines. so there are big concerns and no doubt that if these restrictions from governments continue the airlines will be calling for more financial support in the weeks to come. , ., ., ., ., financial support in the weeks to come. ., ., ., . ., come. jonathan, thanks so much for the update. — come. jonathan, thanks so much for the update, jonathan _ come. jonathan, thanks so much for the update, jonathan joseph - come. jonathan, thanks so much for the update, jonathan joseph is - the update, jonathanjoseph is there. let's bring you some sport with a full round—up from the bbc sport centre. good evening. deja vu for england, we start with cricket because out in australia they have been bowled out for 185 on the opening day of the third ashes test in melbourne. it is a match england have to win to keep the series alive but it was the same old problem with the bat as our sports correspondentjoe wilson reports. a new match, new innings, a new beginning for nine minutes. haseeb hameed out for zero. england recalled zak crawley and pat cummins got him for 12 and that's why he won the toss and bowled. melbourne's boxing day test is a spectator occasion. it is a huge ground. proof of vaccination was required. no restrictions on the capacity. and no limits on pat cummins who got dawid malan for 14. butjoe root had the touches which put him in a different class, which took to 50, which made the next so disappointing. edged and caught and out, and why? joe root could not tell you. he couldn't believe it himself. ben stokes tried all sorts of shots. this was the last one, gone for 25. jos buttler on three was aiming for the boundary, presumably but got nowhere near it. there is a field, that's the catch. jonny bairstow was surprised on 35 and england were soon 185 all out. normal service resumed. according and even summon a gust of optimism? australia reached 61-1 in gust of optimism? australia reached 61—1 in reply. david one of them and dismissed. the final ball was almost another wicket. dismissed. the final ball was almost anotherwicket. but dismissed. the final ball was almost another wicket. but every almost must be a success when you are in this kind of mess. joe wilson, bbc news. england are in need of a comeback. leicester city nearly pulled one off today in what would have been one of the greatest stories in premier league history. ultimately they were beaten at manchester city where pep guardiola's side raced into a 4—0 lead before half an hour was even played and three points looked a formality. de bruyne, mahrez, gundogan, sterling with the goals. but in the second half the unthinkable started to happen, in a ten—minute period maddison, lookman, iheanacho all scored making it 4—3. but that was as far as the comeback got, sterling scored again and laporte making it 6—3, giving the champions breathing room again — and that's exactly what they've got at the top of the table, too, where they are six points clear. tottenham's good form continues. they are up to fifth after a 3—0 win over crystal palace — who were without manager patrick vieira because of covid. harry kane scored the first before a flying header from lucas moura made it two. spurs were well in control and soon after palace had wilfried zaha sent off. lucas moura's cross set up son heung min to score tottenham's third. they're still unbeaten in the premier league under antonio conte. arsenal remain six points ahead of spurs, strengthening their hold on fourth for now after thrashing norwich 5—0 at carrow road. bukayo sakha scored twice. west ham continue to slip down the table, a big result for southampton at the london stadium where they won 3—2. steven gerrard's not in the aston villa dugout this evening because of covid, they kick off shortly against chelsea. brighton v brentford is an 8pm kick—off. in pursuit of rangers at the top of the scottish premiership, celtic got a comfortable win at bottom side stjohnstone. abada scored twice in the first half to put celtic in control. chris kane had pulled one back for stjohnstone but nir bitton ended their hopes of a comeback. but rangers have re—established their six—point lead at the top of the table going into the winter break in scotland — after a 2—0 win over st mirren. also wins for aberdeen, hibs, hearts and motherwell. in rugby union's premiership leicester tigers maintained their perfect start to the season, with a dramatic win over bristol bears at ashton gate. with the clock in the red, the tigers scored in the fourth minute of added time to win by 28—26. guy porter with his first premiership try. that's now ten wins from ten for the tigers in the league this season — their best run for 21 years. and there was a big shock at kempton in the king george vi chase this afternoon. the 28—1 shot tornado flyer, ridden by danny mullins and trained by his uncle willie mullins, went on to finish nine lengths clear of the joint favourite clan des 0beaux, who was twice a winner in the past, with saint calvados third. that's all the sport for now. sportsday is at 6:30pm. but back to you now, lucy. thank you so much. let's return to our top story and the news of the death of archbishop desmond tutu. i'm joined now by the former prime minister gordon brown. it's good to see you. i know you encountered him as a friend. tell us about him. he encountered him as a friend. tell us about him. . , encountered him as a friend. tell us about him. ., , ., encountered him as a friend. tell us about him-— about him. he was one of the ureatest about him. he was one of the greatest people _ about him. he was one of the greatest people i've - about him. he was one of the greatest people i've ever- about him. he was one of the | greatest people i've ever met. about him. he was one of the - greatest people i've ever met. he and nelson mandela are the two leaders who ended apartheid. but you know that he was a teacher, he was a moral leader, he was a campaigner. when he walked into the room irradiated joy and light, yet he was one of the most modest and humble and people you could also meet. so he leaves behind a legacy, one of the last of the generation of people who told us that apartheid was wrong and stood up for human rights everywhere, and he never stopped doing that right throughout his life. he went into retirement in 2010 and then i know he came out of retirement to fight for human rights issues. he will never be forgotten as one of the great leaders of our time. s, , , as one of the great leaders of our time. , ,, ., ., as one of the great leaders of our time. , ., ., time. he was hugely passionate about education as — time. he was hugely passionate about education as well. _ time. he was hugely passionate about education as well. tell _ time. he was hugely passionate about education as well. tell us _ time. he was hugely passionate about education as well. tell us about - education as well. tell us about some of the experiences you had working with him around issues of education. e ., , education. when he retired as archbishop — education. when he retired as archbishop had _ education. when he retired as archbishop had moved - education. when he retired as archbishop had moved out. education. when he retired as archbishop had moved out of| education. when he retired as - archbishop had moved out of formal campaigning on the issues about the truth and reconciliation commission and the rainbow coalition which he talked about in south africa, he decided he wanted to educate every child in africa, so as a un envoy myself i worked with him as we tried to get more and more children into school and even now there are millions of children who are not yet going to school and are deprived of a childhood and he had this campaign to give every child a desk, so he had a desk that was full of information that he tried to get across africa. i remember him coming to the united nations to launch a campaign with me and i got a message that he had been kept outside the united nations because his name was not on the list and i went out thinking he'd be angry, but he was not admitted in, but he was so placid and so unassuming and so modest, hejust saw placid and so unassuming and so modest, he just saw it as an oversight and not anything that was to be worried about. he was that sort of guy, the life and soul of the party, but also someone who is completely modest and aware that every human being have something to offer, always wanting to find the goodin offer, always wanting to find the good in everyone, and of course wanting children in particular to get the chance of developing their potential to the full. he was simply a great human being. that's not only because he won the nobel prize, which he did, but throughout his full life he fought for things that he thought were important and would enhance the dignity of human beings. as you are remembering him you are smiling and we are watching pictures of him at the same time on the screen dancing and laughing as well. it seems an irrepressible humour is such a unique thing, given what he went through. such a unique thing, given what he went through-— such a unique thing, given what he went through. yes, and of course he could have — went through. yes, and of course he could have been _ went through. yes, and of course he could have been assassinated - went through. yes, and of course he could have been assassinated during these terrible anti—apartheid years. he was very controversial when he stood out against some of the things that even nelson mandela who was a great friend of his had done. he spoke out about human rights, he believed, for example, in assisted dying, he believed in supporting gay rights, he was not someone who was a traditional person in the sense that he held to the old views, he was prepared to look at the future and what the ideas of the future yielded. so he was a very modern person, and having started off, i think, as a teacher before he became an archbishop, or a think, as a teacher before he became an archbishop, ora bishop think, as a teacher before he became an archbishop, or a bishop and ben an archbishop, or a bishop and ben an archbishop, or a bishop and ben an archbishop, i think he always wanted to be both learning and educating the younger generation. that is really how i will remember him, as the person who was so kind to everybody he met, subservient to no one but treated everybody equally. and you know that's a great test of the humanity of an individual. and i think he represented that to such a great degree that he will never be forgotten. he will always be missed, and of course he has a very special place because without him and nelson mandela perhaps apartheid would have lasted for many, many more years. and as you talk about the many issues he was passionate about and involved in, do you think you can even begin to measure his influence? i think when he talked about the rainbow coalition in south africa, he talked about everybody coming together, south africa could have endedin together, south africa could have ended in bloodshed with the defence of white rule and the refusal to accept the end of apartheid, and even when mandela was about to become president there was always a danger that there would be civil war breaking out across south africa and tutu and mandela pleaded with people to put the recriminations behind and to put the recriminations behind and to reconcile, and that's why he chaired the truth and reconciliation commission. he was very honest and nobody dumb like many people did not tell the truth and he complained about that but he wanted people to find a way to live together. he was somebody who represents the best of human nature but equally somebody who had a vision of a world where people, despite any ideological and other differences, could come together and recognised they had more in common than what divided them. that is his legacy, that he wants people are different colours and different religions and different ideologies to find a way to work together. it’s different ideologies to find a way to work together.— to work together. it's a huge lea , to work together. it's a huge legacy. a _ to work together. it's a huge legacy, a massive _ to work together. it's a huge legacy, a massive one - to work together. it's a huge - legacy, a massive one command as to work together. it's a huge _ legacy, a massive one command as you have paid such a wonderful tribute to him i wonderfinally is there just one moment of connection that you had with him, or one memory that you had with him, or one memory that you have of him, that will remain with you particularly tonight? so with you particularly tonight? sr many with you particularly tonight? 5r many of with you particularly tonight? 5;r many of the with you particularly tonight? 5r many of the meetings because this is the radiating smile, it is the faith in the future, it is the human being himself who would never look down on anybody. he was never condescending. and so whether it is my young sons, or whether it was someone who was aged and elderly and a senior leader, he would treat everybody equally. that's how i remember him, subservient to no one because he knew that apartheid had treated people so unfairly, but he treated everybody equally. and yet he was such a modest human being that you couldn't fail to notice that he was bringing out the good in everybody. that's the person i remember. he was the most extraordinary _ that's the person i remember. he was the most extraordinary human - that's the person i remember. he was the most extraordinary human being l the most extraordinary human being and that is a wonderful tribute you have paid to him tonight. gordon brown, thank you very much for talking to us. some breaking news. a man who was arrested within the grounds of windsor castle on christmas day while in possession of a crossbow has been detained under the mental health act. the man entered the grounds but was not able to get into any buildings due to security. the 19—year—old man from southampton was arrested on suspicion of breach or trespass of a protected site and possession of an offensive weapon. the former bbc radio presenter janice long has died following a short illness. she was best known as a presenter on radio 1, radio 2, top of the pops and most recently on bbc radio wales. she died at home on christmas day surrounded by her family. the bbc�*s director general said she was a stellar presenter who was loved and respected across the industry. many tributes being paid to her today. joining me now is ian mcnabb — band member of the icicle works and good friend ofjanice. we are sending you our condolences on what must be such a sad christmas for you, on what must be such a sad christmas foryou, learning on what must be such a sad christmas for you, learning of the death of janice. what was she like? she was the best friend _ janice. what was she like? she was the best friend that _ janice. what was she like? she was the best friend that you _ janice. what was she like? she was the best friend that you could - janice. what was she like? she was the best friend that you could hope| the best friend that you could hope to have, i knew herfor 40 years, exactly 40 years, and she started out on bbc radio merseyside. she had a programme called street life, which went out on a sunday night and she would play all the local acts. she gave everybody a chance, she loved music. i remember after our first interview on the show, as soon as the show finished we were next door in the pub and a friendship was cemented for life. she loved music, she really wanted to be able to play music, but as with many great broadcasters and music writers she did the next best thing, which was promote as many musical things that she enjoyed that she didn't think other people would get to hear unless she presented it. but you know, i don't think ofjanice as a broadcaster. it's been really incredible today to see the massive outpouring of love forjanice long, broadcaster. you know, she's my friend. i wish she could see the immense amount of love coming her way today. she immense amount of love coming her wa toda . ,, s, , immense amount of love coming her wa toda. ,, , . ., way today. she was such a trailblazer _ way today. she was such a trailblazer in _ way today. she was such a trailblazer in the _ way today. she was such a trailblazer in the industry i way today. she was such a l trailblazer in the industry as way today. she was such a - trailblazer in the industry as well, lots of people are talking about how important she was, one of the first women to hold so many of the positions she held as well. did she see herself in that way? i positions she held as well. did she see herself in that way?— see herself in that way? i wouldn't think that she — see herself in that way? i wouldn't think that she is _ see herself in that way? i wouldn't think that she is thought _ see herself in that way? i wouldn't think that she is thought of - see herself in that way? i wouldn'tj think that she is thought of herself as a trailblazer. like i said, she was just as a trailblazer. like i said, she wasjust simply a as a trailblazer. like i said, she was just simply a fan of what she did. she was so enthusiastic. she went to gig is often not phoning ahead to let them know that she was coming and she'd buy tickets. she was a fan like the rest of us. i know that when she first went to national bbc radio and tv, she was one of the only, i think there was only two lady presenters at that time and she was one of them. she got to do some on live aid. 0ne time and she was one of them. she got to do some on live aid. one of the last times i spoke to her we were just having a casual conversation. she was going," i went to the school because paul mccartney was doing pass the prize and stuff and he tapped me on the shoulder and came up and started talking to me. i couldn't believe it." i said, have you met him before. and she said, yeah, loads of times. and she said, yeah, loads of times. and she said, yeah, but i still couldn't believe it. . �* , yeah, but i still couldn't believe it. . �*, t, ., , yeah, but i still couldn't believe it. that's a lovely story. she busily had — it. that's a lovely story. she busily had an _ it. that's a lovely story. she busily had an instinct - it. that's a lovely story. she busily had an instinct of- it. that's a lovely story. she | busily had an instinct of what it. that's a lovely story. she - busily had an instinct of what made great music and what talent was. that's unusual, isn't it?— that's unusual, isn't it? huge. absolutely _ that's unusual, isn't it? huge. absolutely unusual. _ that's unusual, isn't it? huge. absolutely unusual. she - that's unusual, isn't it? huge. absolutely unusual. she was l absolutely unusual. she was incredibly proud of coming from liverpool. she was lucky, as were my self and other artists around that time, that the spotlight had definitely fallen on liverpool once again and she was in the right place to kind of push that forward. you know, she was just always wanting to help you. even in the darkest moments she'd call you up, and we'd have some wonderful late night conversations putting the world to write that nobody would ever get to hear. she was incredibly funny and i'm

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