this evening. before that, she talks political thinking with the bbc�*s nick robinson. the woman who became our foreign secretaryjust the woman who became our foreign secretary just 12 weeks ago the woman who became our foreign secretaryjust 12 weeks ago is the daughter of an anti—nuclear claim pain or gets the siting of american missiles in britain. and as liz truss told me the last time she appeared on political thinking, she also used to chant on the streets of scotland. this week, she gave an important speech in which she criticised those and what she called fashionable circles for being ashamed of our past and too doubtful about the future. it's sort of plain speaking that makes her a favourite amongst tory activists and was dubbed the new mrs t. liz truss, welcome back to political thinking. great to be here. do you remember what you said to me about diplomacy last time we sat in the studio? i've completely forgotten, nick. i’m last time we sat in the studio? i've completely forgotten, nick. i'm not very diplomatic — completely forgotten, nick. i'm not very diplomatic. how— completely forgotten, nick. i'm not very diplomatic. how does - completely forgotten, nick. i'm not very diplomatic. how does it - completely forgotten, nick. i'm not very diplomatic. how does it feel i very diplomatic. how does it feel being the country's top diplomat? i think it depends on the way you interpret the word diplomacy. i think what i was getting at is on somebody who likes to speak my mind. i'm clear about what i think and i'm not going to trim my messages for the audience. and i think that quality can be useful in foreign policy when we face, at the moment, a situation with a very aggressive russia, when we face challenges for the free world in terms of our fundamental beliefs in things like freedoms and democracy. maybe now is not the time for diplomat. old—fashioned ideas of diplomacy — schmoozing, telling people what they want to hear, perhaps, constructive ambiguity. i want to hear, perhaps, constructive ambiaui . , want to hear, perhaps, constructive ambiaui . _, ,, ., ., ambiguity. i fully approve of the schmoozing _ ambiguity. i fully approve of the schmoozing part _ ambiguity. i fully approve of the schmoozing part because - ambiguity. i fully approve of the schmoozing part because you i ambiguity. i fully approve of the| schmoozing part because you do ambiguity. i fully approve of the - schmoozing part because you do have to get to know your colleagues, you have to be... martyred diplomacy is now about whatsapp as much as ambassadors' parties. building trust, so even with some of the most difficult interlocutors, you're able to communicate. and that's asked lutely cord to the job. we to communicate. and that's asked lutely cord to the job.— lutely cord to the 'ob. we will come to ower lutely cord to the 'ob. we will come to power later. _ lutely cord to the job. we will come to power later. tell _ lutely cord to the job. we will come to power later. tell me _ lutely cord to the job. we will come to power later. tell me how - lutely cord to the job. we will come to power later. tell me how it - lutely cord to the job. we will come to power later. tell me how it felt, | to power later. tell me how it felt, because you weren't expecting to be foreign secretary. use dried up the amazing staircase and that extraordinary building — you stride. how did it feel? i extraordinary building - you stride. how did it feel?— how did it feel? i was delighted, but ou how did it feel? i was delighted, but you have _ how did it feel? i was delighted, but you have to _ how did it feel? i was delighted, but you have to take _ how did it feel? i was delighted, but you have to take a _ how did it feel? i was delighted, but you have to take a few- but you have to take a few seconds to process your new role. because i'd been trade secretary, i spent quite a lot of time travelling, meeting overseas governments. so, i know a lot of what the role involves. but of course, it's a major step, and it's a hugely impressive government department. we've got one of the best diplomatic networks in the world. the foreign office itself is fine, but the... are assets are really overseas. when robbie cook — are assets are really overseas. when robbie cook got _ are assets are really overseas. when robbie cook got the _ are assets are really overseas. when robbie cook got the job, _ are assets are really overseas. when robbie cook got the job, he - are assets are really overseas. when robbie cook got the job, he sat in the chair and robbie cook got the job, he sat in the chairand said robbie cook got the job, he sat in the chair and said how... i wonder if there was a bit of you who thought, "how did a girl who went to protest against american nuclear weapons, how did she end up here in the foreign office?" the weapons, how did she end up here in the foreign office?"— the foreign office?" the time it occurred to _ the foreign office?" the time it occurred to me _ the foreign office?" the time it occurred to me was _ the foreign office?" the time it occurred to me was when - the foreign office?" the time it occurred to me was when i - the foreign office?" the time it occurred to me was when i was | the foreign office?" the time it l occurred to me was when i was at coffee in glasgow. —— cop. she would never have imagined that she was at cop as foreign secretary in glasgow. that's the time it really hit home. do you remember how to make your blue eater style nuclear missile? no, it was carpet rolls. it was much bigger than that. it was about ten foot long. the problem was that my mother had covered it with flowered wallpaper so it perhaps didn't have the psychological effects of the real nuclear weapon. i the psychological effects of the real nuclear weapon.— the psychological effects of the real nuclear weapon. i imagine that she's pretty — real nuclear weapon. i imagine that she's pretty much _ real nuclear weapon. i imagine that she's pretty much a _ real nuclear weapon. i imagine that she's pretty much a straight - real nuclear weapon. i imagine that she's pretty much a straight talkerl she's pretty much a straight talker like liz truss is, so did she say, "now you're foreign secretary, you better get rid of these weapons?" i think she knows my views. we had many conversations about this in the past. i respect the fact that she's got different views from me, and she refaxed that i have different views. and that's a great thing about living in a free society with reminded parents.- living in a free society with reminded parents. living in a free society with reminded arents. ., v ., , reminded parents. that's a very good description- — reminded parents. that's a very good description. one _ reminded parents. that's a very good description. one thing _ reminded parents. that's a very good description. one thing i _ reminded parents. that's a very good description. one thing i didn't - description. one thing i didn't know, which i've learned since, is not only about your campaign, you were a republican. you are against her majesty, the queen stopped although i do it's fair to say that when i was in my— although i do it's fair to say that when i was in my youth,, i was a professional controversial - when i was in my youth,, i was a professional controversial list . when i was in my youth,, i was a| professional controversial list and i like exploring ideas. you professional controversial list and i like exploring ideas.— professional controversial list and i like exploring ideas. you said we do not believe _ i like exploring ideas. you said we do not believe in _ i like exploring ideas. you said we do not believe in people _ i like exploring ideas. you said we do not believe in people who - i like exploring ideas. you said we do not believe in people who were born to rule? figs do not believe in people who were born to rule? $5 i do not believe in people who were born to rule?— born to rule? as i say, i thinki was in my _ born to rule? as i say, i thinki was in my teens _ born to rule? as i say, i thinki was in my teens at _ born to rule? as i say, i thinki was in my teens at the - born to rule? as i say, i thinki was in my teens at the time i born to rule? as i say, i think i i was in my teens at the time when born to rule? as i say, i think i - was in my teens at the time when i made that statement. i came from a left—wing background. my mother was in the campaign for nuclear desired vent. there were very few people at my school or who i met on a regular basis — in fact, i can count them on one hand — who described as right wing. but i think over time, i began to understand more about why britain is successful, and part of our success is the constitutional monarchy that supports the free democracy. over time... you monarchy that supports the free democracy. overtime... you had to exlain democracy. overtime... you had to exolain that — democracy. overtime... you had to exolain that to _ democracy. over time. .. you had to explain that to her— democracy. overtime... you had to explain that to her majesty? - democracy. overtime... you had to explain that to her majesty? she . democracy. overtime... you had to | explain that to her majesty? she has explain that to her ma'esty? she has never explain that to her ma'esty? she has asked _ explain that to her ma'esty? she has never asked me _ explain that to her majesty? she has never asked me about _ explain that to her majesty? she has never asked me about that. - explain that to her majesty? she has never asked me about that. you - never asked me about that. you ex - lain never asked me about that. you exolain why _ never asked me about that. you exolain why you _ never asked me about that. you explain why you went on this journey. one of the things you told me last time we spoke is you didn't like being told what to do.— like being told what to do. that's still true? i'm _ like being told what to do. that's still true? i'm intrigued - like being told what to do. that's still true? i'm intrigued where i like being told what to do. that's i still true? i'm intrigued where that stems from. certainly when i was at school, i was frustrated by the lip service that was paid to causes, and a lack of telling the truth about the reality. so, it wasn't acceptable to question that. there was a sort of soft biggest scree of low expectations —— bigotry. the general attitude that... low expectations -- bigotry. the general attitude that. . .- general attitude that... people think this way? _ general attitude that... people think this way? exactly. - general attitude that... people think this way? exactly. you i general attitude that... people i think this way? exactly. you gave general attitude that... people - think this way? exactly. you gave a bi seech think this way? exactly. you gave a big speech this _ think this way? exactly. you gave a big speech this week. _ think this way? exactly. you gave a big speech this week. only - think this way? exactly. you gave a big speech this week. only 12 - think this way? exactly. you gave a | big speech this week. only 12 weeks ago. you use the phrase fashionable circles. you said people talking fashionable circles about how we should be ashamed of our history and doubtful about her future. will you thinking back to those schoolteachers?- thinking back to those schoolteachers? , ., ,. schoolteachers? yes, i had school teachers who _ schoolteachers? yes, i had school teachers who would _ schoolteachers? yes, i had school teachers who would regularly - schoolteachers? yes, i had school| teachers who would regularly have schoolteachers? yes, i had school. teachers who would regularly have a go at margaret thatcher over the mind of strike. we had whole lessons on sexism and racism rather than talking about, as i say, the core skills that would've helped children get on. i'm not saying we didn't do english and maths, i'm just saying it was a disproportionate focus on some of those issues. and ifound it really, really frustrating. some of those issues. and i found it really, really frustrating.— really, really frustrating. what's the equivalent _ really, really frustrating. what's the equivalent now? _ really, really frustrating. what's the equivalent now? if- really, really frustrating. what's the equivalent now? if that's i really, really frustrating. what's l the equivalent now? if that's what offended you then, giving a speech now about people being ashamed of our history, what are you thinking of now? ~ . �* ~ ., ., of now? what i'm thinking about now is the movement _ of now? what i'm thinking about now is the movement to _ of now? what i'm thinking about now is the movement to pull _ of now? what i'm thinking about now is the movement to pull down - is the movement to pull down statues, the attack on winston churchill's statue, the... the sort of focus on all of the negative elements of britain's history. now, i'm not saying britain's perfect, but there are very few countries with an unblemished past, and i think... we should focus on what is good about our country today. and good about our country today. and et, good about our country today. and yet. prince — good about our country today. and yet, prince charles was, as you know, the declaration of his independence. what did he do? he talked about "the appalling atrocity of slavery." he called it the darkest days of our past. was he wrong to do that? ida. darkest days of our past. was he wrong to do that?— darkest days of our past. was he wrong to do that? no, he wasn't. crosstalk _ crosstalk the transatlantic slave trade was completely abhorrent. of course he wasn't wrong to do that. but my point is, we are in a world where we face increasingly aggressive authoritarian nations. we see on the border of ukraine russian forces lined up. we're seeing china flexes economic muscles, notjust across south east asia, but across the world. and, yes, of course we need to talk about our past, but i want us to spend more time talking about where we are now, the fact that we are a free country, that we are a democracy. we believe in individual liberty, we give opportunities to everybody in our society. it doesn't matter if you're black or lgbt or a woman, you have opportunities here in britain. what i'm saying is the excessive introspective and does give sucker to our adversary. the auestion give sucker to our adversary. the question i — give sucker to our adversary. the question i want _ give sucker to our adversary. the question i want to ask is whether people having a debate about statues should stand in museums still, even throwing that statue of colston into the water. saying that undermines our fight against the water. saying that undermines ourfight against communism the water. saying that undermines our fight against communism and against president putin, are you? i believe in free speech on the right to protest. people are perfectly entitled to do and say, provided it's within the law, what they want in britain, and that's the nature of our free society. what i'm saying to the foreign office, what i'm saying to the media is let's raise our sights a bit. let's look at what's going on around the world. let's fight for these values we believe in. �* , . ~ fight for these values we believe in. let's talk about those. there's a fi . ht of in. let's talk about those. there's a fight of ideas, _ in. let's talk about those. there's a fight of ideas, as _ in. let's talk about those. there's a fight of ideas, as you _ a fight of ideas, as you say, between democracies, free countries and the rest of the world, mostly china and russia. how much do you fear that on your watch, that in a relatively short period of time — there may be realfights, actual fights, starting with the warnings we've heard all week's about the build—up of forces on ukraine's borderfrom russia? do you really feel, and you recently rep met the russian forest minister —— foreign minister? i’m russian forest minister -- foreign minister? �* p, russian forest minister -- foreign minister? �* . ., , minister? i'm a great believer in deterrence. _ minister? i'm a great believer in deterrence, and _ minister? i'm a great believer in deterrence, and what _ minister? i'm a great believer in deterrence, and what i - minister? i'm a great believer in deterrence, and what i want - minister? i'm a great believer in deterrence, and what i want to i minister? i'm a great believer in i deterrence, and what i want to do minister? i'm a great believer in - deterrence, and what i want to do is work with our friends and allies to avoid that. and the way we avoid thatis avoid that. and the way we avoid that is from a position of strength. so, that's reducing economic dependence on those regimes, including gas from russia. it's about reducing technological dependence. we've removed while away from our 5g network. but it's also about making sure we have the security deterrence and place —— huwei. that's why i visited our troops on the estonian border where nato forces are supporting our baltic friends.— baltic friends. was there a conscious _ baltic friends. was there a conscious decision - baltic friends. was there a conscious decision to - baltic friends. was there a | conscious decision to make baltic friends. was there a - conscious decision to make yourself look like margaret thatcher in that tank? her image in germany in the 19805, tank? her image in germany in the 1980s, yours in a tank with people in russia, calling you the new rn lady? was it a conscious decision to channel her assertiveness? it lady? was it a conscious decision to channel her assertiveness?- channel her assertiveness? it was a conscious decision _ channel her assertiveness? it was a conscious decision to _ channel her assertiveness? it was a conscious decision to go _ channel her assertiveness? it was a conscious decision to go to - channel her assertiveness? it was a conscious decision to go to estonia | conscious decision to go to estonia to show our support for the baltic states when they are under serious pressure from russia. and at a time when we're seeing escalating russian forces. would pound out when we're seeing escalating russian forces. coincidences? ound out when we're seeing escalating russian forces. coincidences? ijnd out when we're seeing escalating russian forces. - coincidences?-|t | are these all coincidences? i think the are, are these all coincidences? i think they are. yes- _ are these all coincidences? i think they are, yes. really. _ are these all coincidences? i think they are, yes. really. yes. - are these all coincidences? i think they are, yes. really. yes. pulls. they are, yes. really. yes. pulls ou are they are, yes. really. yes. pulls you are top _ they are, yes. really. yes. pulls you are top of — they are, yes. really. yes. pulls you are top of their— they are, yes. really. yes. pulls you are top of their choice - they are, yes. really. yes. pulls you are top of their choice to - you are top of their choice to replace the prime minister. let's see. interesting too, it's phrased network of liberty, and memory of your daughter? it network of liberty, and memory of your daughter?— network of liberty, and memory of your daughter? it is. is that what ou your daughter? it is. is that what you changed _ your daughter? it 3 is that what you changed italthough i do the concept of liberty. —— named after your daughter. i concept of liberty. -- named after your daughter-— your daughter. i think that's my number one. — your daughter. i think that's my number one, is the _ your daughter. i think that's my number one, is the freedom i your daughter. i think that's my number one, is the freedom for people to have agency and control over their own lives and be able to decide their own destiny. that's very important for me personally, but it's also important, i think, to achieve a successful life and successful societies. achieve a successful life and successfulsocieties. i achieve a successful life and successful societies. i think successful societies. i think successful societies. i think successful societies are based on giving people power over their own lives. �* p, , giving people power over their own lives. �* . , , ., , lives. and many people in the conservative _ lives. and many people in the conservative party _ lives. and many people in the conservative party would - lives. and many people in the. conservative party would agree lives. and many people in the - conservative party would agree and say that's what brexit did, and then theyjust have say that's what brexit did, and then they just have to say that's what brexit did, and then theyjust have to remind themselves that you described brexit as a leap in the dark. you called on people to go out and vote. if you care about being an outward fixed wing... go out and vote remain. were you wrong? or have you simply seen the error of your ways over time or simply living with the decision? in your ways over time or simply living with the decision?— with the decision? in retrospect, i would have _ with the decision? in retrospect, i would have voted _ with the decision? in retrospect, i would have voted for _ with the decision? in retrospect, i would have voted for brexit - with the decision? in retrospect, i l would have voted for brexit because i think it has given us huge freedom of flexibility as a country we didn't have before. in particular, on foreign policy, we now have the ability to co—ordinate our development policy, or trade policy, or defence policy and our diplomacy together. and we can and are having a huge impact. so, yes, i have changed my mind.— a huge impact. so, yes, i have changed my mind. should people trust a comfort? you've _ changed my mind. should people trust a comfort? you've changed _ changed my mind. should people trust a comfort? you've changed your - changed my mind. should people trust a comfort? you've changed your mind| a comfort? you've changed your mind not once, but twice, on things that people would regard as fundamental values, and there are some people who don't trust people who change their mind. maybe she's wrong now. the way i see it is that i have, from being a child in a left—wing family, i have thought about things from principles. i base my beliefs on the idea that successful societies give people freedom. there's a great margaret thatcher quote. when people are free to choose, they choose freedom. and over time, choose, they choose freedom. and overtime, i have choose, they choose freedom. and over time, i have thought more about how you best created free society, what are the institutions that achieve that, and there was a debate about whether or not mrs thatcher famously supported during the european union, i thought that would be a good way of helping achieve her aims towards the end of her tenure. she became more sceptical. so, i think over time, you have to look at what are the policies, what are the institutional structures you think will achieve those goals. let’s institutional structures you think will achieve those goals. let's turn to what's not _ will achieve those goals. let's turn to what's not been _ will achieve those goals. let's turn to what's not been the _ will achieve those goals. let's turn to what's not been the easiest - will achieve those goals. let's turn. to what's not been the easiest week for governments. did you have a departmental christmas party last year? departmental christmas party last ear? ., departmental christmas party last year? ida. can you help us with a year? no. can you help us with a definition year? tin. can you help us with a definition of what a party is? year? no. can you help us with aj definition of what a party is? no, year? no. can you help us with a. definition of what a party is? no, i can't. definition of what a party is? no, i can't- you — definition of what a party is? no, i can't. you would _ definition of what a party is? no, i can't. you would like _ definition of what a party is? no, i can't. you would like me - definition of what a party is? no, i can't. you would like me to - definition of what a party is? no, i can't. you would like me to help i can't. you would like me to help ou, can't. you would like me to help you. cheese _ can't. you would like me to help you. cheese is — can't. you would like me to help you, cheese is a _ can't. you would like me to help you, cheese is a party, - can't. you would like me to help you, cheese is a party, wind - can't. you would like me to help you, cheese is a party, wind is l can't. you would like me to help you, cheese is a party, wind is aj you, cheese is a party, wind is a party? you, cheese is a party, wind is a .a ? ., �* , you, cheese is a party, wind is a .a ? ., you, cheese is a party, wind is a i party?— you're party? no, i can't help you. you're bein: party? no, i can't help you. you're being very — party? no, i can't help you. you're being very hesitant. _ party? no, i can't help you. you're being very hesitant. seriously, - party? no, i can't help you. you're being very hesitant. seriously, asl party? no, i can't help you. you're| being very hesitant. seriously, as a straight talker... crosstalk the cabinet secretary is, i'm sure, investigating all these questions that you just asked me. so, we will see the results of that in due course. but last christmas, i was spending my time getting trade deals over the line. we had a lot of deal to get done by the 31st of december, so that was my focus. tau to get done by the 31st of december, so that was my focus.— so that was my focus. you didn't feel all your _ so that was my focus. you didn't feel all your work _ so that was my focus. you didn't feel all your work was _ so that was my focus. you didn't feel all your work was needed i so that was my focus. you didn't - feel all your work was needed in the absence on? ida. feel all your work was needed in the absence on?— absence on? no, we were busy workinu. absence on? no, we were busy working. getting _ absence on? no, we were busy working. getting on _ absence on? no, we were busy working. getting on with - absence on? no, we were busy working. getting on with the i absence on? no, we were busy i working. getting on with the job. absence on? no, we were busy - working. getting on with the job. a working. getting on with the 'ob. a lane working. getting on with the 'ob. a plane speakerfi working. getting on with the 'ob. a plane speaker say i working. getting on with the 'ob. a plane speaker say we * working. getting on with the 'ob. a plane speaker say we can _ working. getting on with the job. a plane speaker say we can see - working. getting on with the job. a| plane speaker say we can see there was a party, let'sjust plane speaker say we can see there was a party, let's just say it, move on, except apologies and get on with thejob? i on, except apologies and get on with the “ob? ., �* ~' ., on, except apologies and get on with the “ob? ., �* ~ ., ., ., the “ob? i don't know what went on. i the job? i don't know what went on. i reall the job? i don't know what went on. i really don't — the job? i don't know what went on. i really don't know, _ the job? i don't know what went on. i really don't know, nick. _ the job? i don't know what went on. i really don't know, nick. on - i really don't know, nick. on another serious matter, we're moving into new restrictions again. less than they were. as a liberty lover, does it worry you? have you needed some convincing this is the right thing to do? i some convincing this is the right thing to do?— thing to do? i don't like restrictions _ thing to do? i don't like restrictions on - thing to do? i don't like restrictions on people'sj thing to do? i don't like - restrictions on people's lives, but i do recognise that we are facing a very serious issue. there is this new variant. we don't quite know exactly how the future is going to unfold, so it is right to exercise caution and to bring in unfold, so it is right to exercise caution and to bras in unfold, so it is right to exercise caution and to bras you measures, which as you say, not as odorous as some of the measures, which as you say, not as odoro had; some of the measures, which as you say, not as odoro had in ome of the measures, which as you say, not as odoro had in the of the measures, which as you say, not as odoro had in the past. a measures, which as you say, not as odoro had in the past. so, measures, which as you say, not as ot me had in the past. so, measures, which as you say, not as ot me a |d in the past. so, measures, which as you say, not as ot me a |d in the pa balance. i'm more to me a reasonable balance. i'm more focused on immediate foreign policy issues, which there are quite a few — the iranian negotiations started again today. we have the issues with russia and ukraine, the balkans as well, is an issue of great concern. so, quite a lot. well, is an issue of great concern. so. quite a lot-— so, quite a lot. there is an awful lot on your _ so, quite a lot. there is an awful lot on your plate. _ so, quite a lot. there is an awful. lot on your plate. % say lot on your plate. what do you say to those who in the to those who say in the modern era, not making a comment about you, this might have been true for years if not decades — it's actually number prime ten, it's actually the prime minister, about minister, it is really about relationships between global foreign leaders, not between foreign minister secretary? i disagree with that. of course, _ minister secretary? i disagree with that. of course, the _ that. of course, the prime minister as a former foreign secretary is very in foreign policy, and very involved in foreign policy, and we talk a our various we talk a lot about our various priorities, but foreign policy priorities, but ultimately, there is a to be done in making things happen. he's a busy just now. are he's a busy man just now. we are when talking on thursday morning, when we've just he is a father we've just heard that he is a father for a second time with carrie, his wife. he's got a lot going on. covid, party rows, babies. huge congratulations _ covid, party rows, babies. huge congratulations to _ covid, party rows, babies. huge congratulations to boris - covid, party rows, babies. huge congratulations to boris and - covid, party rows, babies. hire congratulations to boris and carrie this morning. very exciting news. it is good news. has he got too much on, though? i is good news. has he got too much on. though?— on, though? i don't think he does, and i on, though? i don't think he does, and i think— on, though? i don't think he does, and i think he's _ on, though? i don't think he does, and i think he's very _ on, though? i don't think he does, and i think he's very capable - on, though? i don't think he does, and i think he's very capable of- and i think he's very capable of dealing with all the different issues that are happening, but this has been an extraordinary time in politics. we've had brexit, which he successfully delivered, covid, where the uk was really on the front of the uk was really on the front of the vaccine development. but a serious question, as _ the vaccine development. but a serious question, as a - the vaccine development. but a serious question, as a fellow i serious question, as a fellow parent, it's lot of the parent, it's a heck of a lot of the prime minister has to in downing young babies in the flat in downing street. a street. the covid crisis, a political crisis, i out, across britain. who day in, day out, go and dojobs, sometimes across britain. who day in, day out, go and do jobs, sometimes worked two jobs. they're capable of it, and the prime minister is. i'm welcome the fact that fathers are involved in bringing up their children. i5 fact that fathers are involved in bringing up their children. is it important _ bringing up their children. is it important to — bringing up their children. is it important to �*irrelevant that important to you or irrelevant that you are working mother to you are the first working mother to before and sec. that you are the first working mother to before and sec. _ you are the first working mother to before and sec. the first time that's occurred to me, nick! i've been too busy getting on with the job as well as making sure my children are doing the on with the job as well as making sure n to :hildren are doing the on with the job as well as making sure n to bedren are doing the on with the job as well as making sure n to bedren are doing ti but i thing, to be focused on that. but i am pleased that's the case. tau thing, to be focused on that. but i am pleased that's the case. you talk ashle am pleased that's the case. you talk - ashley i times _ am pleased that's the case. you talk - ashley i times about - am pleased that's the case. you talk - ashley i times about what's l quite ashley at times about what's needed to allow women to work, to rise to the very something you rise to the very top. something you care about?— rise to the very top. something you care about? ~ ,,., , , care about? absolutely, and there is more. care about? absolutely, and there is more- there's _ care about? absolutely, and there is more. there's _ to - care about? absolutely, and there is more. there's _ to do i care about? absolutely, and there is| more. there's _ to do on more. there's more reading to do on making sure is affordable making sure childcare is affordable —— more we need to do. in making sure workplaces are supportive of families. i sure workplaces are supportive of families. ., r' sure workplaces are supportive of families. . w , ., ., families. i asked the question for this reason _ families. i asked the question for this reason and _ families. i asked the question for this reason and i _ families. i asked the question for this reason and i hesitate - families. i asked the question for this reason and i hesitate as - families. i asked the question for this reason and i hesitate as a i families. i asked the question for i this reason and i hesitate as a man, a... crosstalk how difficult is it to do a job... to do a job that complex waltz being another —— a mother of teenage girls? another -- a mother of teenage eirls? ~ , another -- a mother of teenage eirls? y . , ., girls? my children were quite young when i was first _ girls? my children were quite young when i was first elected. _ girls? my children were quite young when i was first elected. so, - girls? my children were quite young when i was first elected. so, they i when i was first elected. so, they don't know any different apart from doing anything like canvassing, intending of it — mike attending events. i think they're a bit more clued up on foreign policy. but i enjoy it. i enjoy having a family and working in politics, and i think they are... they should be combinable and they are combinable. your mum got you to make a missile out of carpet role, have you got your daughters to create a banner or a model or... ? my your daughters to create a banner or a model or--- ?_ your daughters to create a banner or a model or... ? my older daughter is currently studying _ a model or... ? my older daughter is currently studying the _ a model or... ? my older daughter is currently studying the cold _ a model or... ? my older daughter is currently studying the cold war, - currently studying the cold war, so we have quite a lot of discussions about what the situation is like now and what it was like in the 60s, 70s and what it was like in the 60s, 70s and 80s. ida and what it was like in the 60s, 705 and 805. ,, and what it was like in the 605, 705 and 805. i. and 805. do you ever debate whether the mum or — and 805. do you ever debate whether the mum or grandma _ and 805. do you ever debate whether the mum or grandma was _ and 805. do you ever debate whether the mum or grandma was right? - and 805. do you ever debate whether| the mum or grandma was right? well, my daughter — the mum or grandma was right? well, my daughter is — the mum or grandma was right? well, my daughter is very — the mum or grandma was right? well, my daughter is very loyal, _ the mum or grandma was right? well, my daughter is very loyal, so - the mum or grandma was right? -ii my daughter is very loyal, so she probably tells me i'm right and my mother she's right when i'm not there. ida mother she's right when i'm not there. ,, ~ mother she's right when i'm not there. i. ~ , �* . there. do you think she'll re'ect our there. do you think she'll re'ect your views �* there. do you think she'll re'ect your views in i there. do you think she'll re'ect your views in a i there. do you think she'll re'ect your views in a way i there. do you think she'll re'ect your views in a way that i there. do you think she'll reject your views in a way that you - your views in a way that you rejected your mother's? i don't re'ect all rejected your mother's? i don't reject all my — rejected your mother's? i don't reject all my mother's - rejected your mother's? i don't reject all my mother's views. i rejected your mother's? i don't i reject all my mother's views. she does have some very good view down my views on education �*s, so i don't reject her view. but i want my children to think for themselves. i am happy that they are... that they are interested, they want to talk about these ideas. and i am very, very relaxed about them taking different views for me. if very relaxed about them taking different views for me.- very relaxed about them taking different views for me. if they want to m different views for me. if they want to _ my member at - different views for me. if they want to _ my member at the | different views for me. if they want to | of- my member at the | different views for me. if they want to | of the - my member at the | different views for me. if they want to | of the problem. lember at the | different views for me. if they want to | of the problem. --1ber at the | different views for me. if they want to tru55, problem. --1ber at the| different views for me. if they want to tru55, thanks m. --1ber at the | different views for me. if they want to tru55, thanks m.�*joining at the | different views for me. if they want to tru55, thanks m.�*joining u5. he| liz truss, thanks forjoining us. what a three years can only has liz truss gun to make. not only has liz truss gun to a leading candidate to boris gigading candidate to renlacebaris she's gone from aileading candidate to renlacebaris she's gone from a woman johnson, but she's gone from a woman happy tojoke about johnson, but she's gone from a woman happy to joke about her past, happy to tell anecdotes and wanted to present herself as the serious foreign secretary, and who knows? perhaps a serious candidate to replace borisjohnson at number ten. that's it from this addition of political thinking. thanks for watching. after a cold weather we've had for a while, things are looking milder and staying mild as we head into next week. tomorrow we will notice the amount of wind in wales, and there will be around —— a lot of cloud around. behind that rain is where we see the temperatures rising. you can see it stays pretty damp a �*moments. further north, a few drier moments. further north, scotland and northern ireland will be clearer and cooler with temperatures a bit closer to where they should be for the time of year. thgiishnuld be far the tirade at year. starts off theiishnuld he fer the tiree ef gear. starts off mild and sunday starts off very mild and working its way northwards cloudy. working its way northwards across scotland. it will be cooler and clearer to the north, but elsewhere, it's going to be noticeably mild. this is bbc news with the latest headlines for viewers in the uk and around the world. devastation across several us states as tornadoes ripped through factories and destroyed towns, that with at least 70 people killed in the worst hit state, kentucky. this the worst hit 5tate, kentucky. this has been the _ the worst hit state, kentucky. ti 3 has been the most devastating tornado event in our state's history and for those who have seen it, what it has done hearing grace county and elsewhere, it is indescribable.

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