hello and welcome to our look ahead to what the the papers will be hello and welcome to our look ahead to what the papers will be bringing us tomorrow. with me are polly mackenzie, chief executive of the think tank demos and rachel watson who's deputy political editor of the scottish daily mail. tomorrow's front pages, starting with: the metro reports more than 150 commuters were fined, in a single day, for not wearing a face covering on public transport. the paper says passengers have �*nose�* excuse. the i newspaper has the headline, deleted: usage of nhs covid contact tracing app has fallen sharply since the pingdemic, as omicron covid cases rise in the uk. the daily telegraph pictures six—year—old arthur labijo—hughes, who was starved, tortured and neglected by his step—mother and his father, before dying of a head injury lastjune. the financial times reports that parliament's spending watchdog has said attempts to recover fraudulent covid loans for small business have been inadequate. so, let's begin. the metro saying how may passengers have been fined and removed from those who travel on public transport are not wearing masks still? it is are not wearing masks still? it is been mandatory _ are not wearing masks still? it is been mandatory to _ are not wearing masks still? it 3 been mandatory to wear a mask are not wearing masks still? it 1 been mandatory to wear a mask on their network for a long time now. it was not removed as a requirement in the summeras it was not removed as a requirement in the summer as it was as a national requirement but the enforcement was negligible to nothing and that is what is shifty here. i think it's the reality and i understand why the government wants to just trust us to use common sense, but when you know there no risk of enforcement, the people who are not exempt, but forgot the mask and get into the habit of it. if night and going to be stopped at the door of the supermarket. and the guards of the tube station aren't going to even mention it. and challenge people. and i think it is good tojust challenge people. and i think it is good to just reset the norm. some people don't wear a mask for health reasons and there's some people that are deeply opposed to mask wear for political reasons and those people may choose not to but they may choose to be hostile to important staff and they won't do that but you can expect that you will never get absolutely 100% compliance with this and you have to set the expectation that will be challenged, otherwise most people would just get out of the habit and others mandatory can went up to see waves of enforcement this just to reset the result. rachel, what you make of this? do you think this is the day one story of some attempted enforcement that's going to have any impact or relevance across the uk? has remained _ relevance across the uk? has remained mandatory in scotland and it is still, _ remained mandatory in scotland and it is still, there are more venues we have — it is still, there are more venues we have to — it is still, there are more venues we have to wear masks in scotland than in _ we have to wear masks in scotland than in england despite the rule changes — than in england despite the rule changes. and public transport venues. — changes. and public transport venues, all these places, you still have _ venues, all these places, you still have to _ venues, all these places, you still have to wear face covering and i think_ have to wear face covering and i think compliance scotland is pretty hi-h think compliance scotland is pretty high and _ think compliance scotland is pretty high and you see the groups of people — high and you see the groups of people were on public transport who choose _ people were on public transport who choose not— people were on public transport who choose not to wear masks for whatever _ choose not to wear masks for whatever reasons, whether they are politically— whatever reasons, whether they are politically feeling that they are against — politically feeling that they are against them orjust because they have forgotten them., but i think because — have forgotten them., but i think because they've remained mandatory in scotland _ because they've remained mandatory in scotland for so many settings. you're _ in scotland for so many settings. you're tess — in scotland for so many settings. you're less likely to leave home and i you're less likely to leave home and i have _ you're less likely to leave home and i have one _ you're less likely to leave home and i have one single jacket holder. they're — i have one single jacket holder. they're everywhere the moment. but when _ they're everywhere the moment. but when you _ they're everywhere the moment. but when you get the constant change of behaviour— when you get the constant change of behaviour where you didn't have to wear _ behaviour where you didn't have to wear them — behaviour where you didn't have to wear them we went to the shops we went to _ wear them we went to the shops we went to the — wear them we went to the shops we went to the pub so we went to work, or other— went to the pub so we went to work, or other places during the day, you -et or other places during the day, you get out _ or other places during the day, you get out of— or other places during the day, you get out of the habit and so, give to -et get out of the habit and so, give to get back— get out of the habit and so, give to get back into the habit and challenging people and enforcing that is— challenging people and enforcing that is the way to do it. if you do not wear— that is the way to do it. if you do not wear a — that is the way to do it. if you do not wear a mask, but go into a shop and most _ not wear a mask, but go into a shop and most likely, i'm not going to be stopped _ and most likely, i'm not going to be stopped it— and most likely, i'm not going to be stopped it i — and most likely, i'm not going to be stopped if i don't wear a mask, pc people without them, i think in scotland. — people without them, i think in scotland, we never really lost that habit _ scotland, we never really lost that habit it— scotland, we never really lost that habit. if we had stopped wearing them _ habit. if we had stopped wearing them in — habit. if we had stopped wearing them in then we are wearing them again. _ them in then we are wearing them again, there might be a little bit more _ again, there might be a little bit more enforcement because those numbers— more enforcement because those numbers of people would be higher. i do think— numbers of people would be higher. i do think there's a bit of a behavioural change in getting people back into _ behavioural change in getting people back into the habit of wearing a mask— back into the habit of wearing a mask and — back into the habit of wearing a mask and there is that constant changing — mask and there is that constant changing of restrictions of what you're — changing of restrictions of what you're asking people to do. just to brin: it in here, they are saying that the nhs app here, they are saying that the nhs app is falling and people are deleting the app and it is happening with lots of people being pinged, people did not fancy that. and people did not fancy that. and people will point to perhaps, the prime minister and hospitals not wearing masks, parties happening when they weren't supposed to be happening. conflicting messages from people and all of the parties in essence of leadership a very different feeling to compare to europe in germany in particular. fin europe in germany in particular. on masks, that normal setting by our political leaders is something which you do see more in scotland. it does matter that on the conservative benches in parliament, they're not really wearing masks that the prime minister went to the hospital not wearing a mask. it tells people that you don't really need to worry about that. and with the apt, i think lots of people to deleted over the summer because so many people working pinged by the app because we had this explosion briefly which then petered out, there is a sense that we're being told by government that essentially, this is over so we did not have worry about it. in some people did stop checking into venues. and i'm not sure if i felt, but we still supposed be checking in in venues? people got out of those habits and are still not certain about the omicron variant and the extent to which this is. as a substantially more transmissible? is it more dangerous to us? we don't know. and given that uncertainty, i think the government is holding back from this going hell for leather and saying, we need to turn all of the back on again. saying, we need to turn all of the back on again-— saying, we need to turn all of the back on aaain. .. . , back on again. rachel, we have seen a fourfold increase _ back on again. rachel, we have seen a fourfold increase in _ back on again. rachel, we have seen a fourfold increase in the _ a fourfold increase in the likelihood of this being more transmissible is high. we don't know about severity yet. do you think, this set of political set of leaders has the power to convince people to go back in the box of more restrictions if it comes to that? because you know, we've had very mixed messages in a very open society compared to other european nations. i society compared to other european nations. ~ .,, nations. i think those mixed messages — nations. i think those mixed messages across _ nations. i think those mixed messages across the - nations. i think those mixed messages across the board | nations. i think those mixed i messages across the board at nations. i think those mixed - messages across the board at the moment, — messages across the board at the moment, i— messages across the board at the moment, i listen to an expert talk about— moment, i listen to an expert talk about it _ moment, i listen to an expert talk about it when they were not that concerned — about it when they were not that concerned about this very intimate of the _ concerned about this very intimate of the government had actually acted pretty— of the government had actually acted pretty quickly because they had their— pretty quickly because they had their fingers burned less time by not doing — their fingers burned less time by not doing anything. and travel restrictions and in england. i think people _ restrictions and in england. i think people feel a bit of a holding pattern— people feel a bit of a holding pattern now because there's so much conflicting _ pattern now because there's so much conflicting and so many people sing so many— conflicting and so many people sing so many different things about it at the moment that how scared should we be of omicron? should we be concerned about our parents going out again— concerned about our parents going out again even though they've had their three — out again even though they've had their three vaccines, for example? 0r their three vaccines, for example? or should — their three vaccines, for example? or should we be cancelling christmas next week— or should we be cancelling christmas next week because we just don't know that even_ next week because we just don't know that even in— next week because we just don't know that even in scotland, if the government were more cautious, we're being _ government were more cautious, we're being told — government were more cautious, we're being told that we can still have our christmas parties, butjust make sure you're _ our christmas parties, butjust make sure you're wearing your mask when you go. _ sure you're wearing your mask when you go, taking the lateral flow test when _ you go, taking the lateral flow test when you _ you go, taking the lateral flow test when you there's all of that. and last christmas, it's pretty rubbish for a _ last christmas, it's pretty rubbish for a lot— last christmas, it's pretty rubbish for a lot of— last christmas, it's pretty rubbish for a lot of people and people want to go— for a lot of people and people want to go and _ for a lot of people and people want to go and see the family christmas and we _ to go and see the family christmas and we don't know how high tolerance beef restrictions. people are saying we are _ beef restrictions. people are saying we are asked not to see her family again— we are asked not to see her family again or— we are asked not to see her family again or keep christmas small and hope _ again or keep christmas small and hope it— again or keep christmas small and hope it doesn't happen and we, what is the _ hope it doesn't happen and we, what is the tolerance level, will people really _ is the tolerance level, will people really go — is the tolerance level, will people really go with that again and it's all done — really go with that again and it's all done to the politicians and the experts _ all done to the politicians and the experts to— all done to the politicians and the experts to make sure they're not giving _ experts to make sure they're not giving his — experts to make sure they're not giving his conflicting evidence and guidance — giving his conflicting evidence and guidance and that we are being informed — guidance and that we are being informed of everything as it is. it's informed of everything as it is. it's a _ informed of everything as it is. it's a question of whether people dare say with actually think because the debate is very toxic and pressured. let us move on to the financial times. and this is about money that was lent to businesses, to keep them going through very tough restrictions and a problem with recouping from fraudulent covid—i9 loans and the attempt to recruit the money that we have seen is inadequate, rachel. how much money should be spent on tracing this money? is going to be worth it? yes. money? is going to be worth it? yes, that is why the _ money? is going to be worth it? yes, that is why the questions i think the people who, despite a pandemic, there is— the people who, despite a pandemic, there is still fraudulent and they will use — there is still fraudulent and they will use whatever means necessary that the _ will use whatever means necessary that the field to get this money and as this _ that the field to get this money and as this report has said, they feel that what— as this report has said, they feel that what is happening now is inadequate but also they took too lon- inadequate but also they took too long to _ inadequate but also they took too long to get those measures in place to make _ long to get those measures in place to make sure the fraudulent claims can be _ to make sure the fraudulent claims can be made in the first place and i think— can be made in the first place and i think there — can be made in the first place and i think there is that pressure of how much _ think there is that pressure of how much you — think there is that pressure of how much you should spend to get this back because you have seen this before _ back because you have seen this before with other things and other measures— before with other things and other measures that have come in place with covid—19, how much money does governments been trying to get money back. governments been trying to get money back but, _ governments been trying to get money back. but, what lessons can be learned? — back. but, what lessons can be learned? again, i really hope that we are _ learned? again, i really hope that we are not— learned? again, i really hope that we are not in this situation again where _ we are not in this situation again where we — we are not in this situation again where we have to have business support — where we have to have business support funds and we go into lockdown. but, there will be lessons to be _ lockdown. but, there will be lessons to be learned from governments in the future — to be learned from governments in the future who may have to consider these _ the future who may have to consider these things and i think that's reatty— these things and i think that's really important things we have reports — really important things we have reports like this as well. let's go to the daily telegraph and is absolutely horrific action that is absolutely horrific action that is happened. the loss of a little boy who was six years old and this case has, the man who is treated appallingly. and the telegraph has been very opposed to lockdown measures but they are trying to link this with, the legitimate fears of closed societies and more domestic abuse and obviously what is happened here is awful. abuse and obviously what is happened here is awful-— here is awful. yes, it is incredibly difficult to _ here is awful. yes, it is incredibly difficult to read _ here is awful. yes, it is incredibly difficult to read any _ here is awful. yes, it is incredibly difficult to read any account - here is awful. yes, it is incredibly difficult to read any account of. difficult to read any account of this case. it is just devastating of what that little boy went through. and really big questions for children services to answer, given the police, given their uncles and grandparents try to raise the alarm. they're all concerned about the future pandemic, or any other circumstances about what happens when you close down essential public services, social workers not able to visit families and anywhere like the intensity that he would have done normally and schools operate to educate children but also as a surveillance mechanism to see how kids are doing and alarms were raised at the time, but took a long time to reestablish those essential services. in cases like these, it talks about the case of more than a decade ago, these cases do happen, they're not caused by the pandemic, but the question is how to services improve and how can we do more to prevent a horrific murder like this happening again? it’s prevent a horrific murder like this happening again?— happening again? it's been very difficult to watch _ happening again? it's been very difficult to watch the _ happening again? it's been very difficult to watch the piece - happening again? it's been very difficult to watch the piece that l happening again? it's been very i difficult to watch the piece that we were able to show and allow the evidence was broadcasted today. certainly. i want to move on to another front page story in the telegraph which is talking about fears over privacy laws after the duchess victory. and she is an incredible. thea;r laws after the duchess victory. and she is an incredible.— she is an incredible. they have u - held she is an incredible. they have upheld the _ she is an incredible. they have upheld the high _ she is an incredible. they have upheld the high court - she is an incredible. they have upheld the high court ruling i she is an incredible. they have - upheld the high court ruling against the mail— upheld the high court ruling against the mail on sunday and meghan markle had a reasonable expectation of privacy — had a reasonable expectation of privacy over the letter she sent her father— privacy over the letter she sent her father that — privacy over the letter she sent her father that was then shared by him and published in the newspaper and parts that— and published in the newspaper and parts that were published in the newspaper. i think we look at i think— newspaper. i think we look at i think there are people who thought that the _ think there are people who thought that the evidence and the statements that the evidence and the statements that we've _ that the evidence and the statements that we've heard them last couple of weeks _ that we've heard them last couple of weeks about meghan markle admitting that she _ weeks about meghan markle admitting that she forgot the people were reading — that she forgot the people were reading the book and but see this go to trial— reading the book and but see this go to trial and _ reading the book and but see this go to trial and this might flip that. it to trial and this might flip that. it did _ to trial and this might flip that. it did not— to trial and this might flip that. it did not flip it and as you said before. — it did not flip it and as you said before, those of a strong statement

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