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right now, there is no evidence that i'm aware of that would suggest that boosting the entire population is going to necessarily provide any greater protection for individuals against hospitalisation or death. tens of thousands of people face a sixth night without power following outages in north england and scotland caused by storm arwen. the government outlines more details of its 10—year plan to reform the social care system in england, including 300 million pound investment to help people live longer independently. staff at 58 universities begin a 3 day strike about pay, pensions and working conditions. pressure is growing on the prime minister after reports christmas parties were held in downing street at the height of the second lockdown last year. at prime ministers questions today, borisjohnson insisted no covid rules had been broken. the bbc has spoken to a source who attended the party last christmas, as first reported by the mirror newspaper today. the source said there were �*several dozen�* people at the gathering which took place on december 18th. ina in a moment, we will talk with ben right, just starting out the technicals, but first, we are going to talk to human rights lawyer, adam wegner who i think is with us. yes, we have got him, thank goodness. sorry about the technical issues. hello to you and thank you for being there when we need you. good evenina. there when we need you. good evening. right, _ there when we need you. good evening. right, so, _ there when we need you. good evening. right, so, first- there when we need you. good evening. right, so, first of- there when we need you. good evening. right, so, first of all, j there when we need you. good i evening. right, so, first of all, to some of the _ evening. right, so, first of all, to some of the 18th _ evening. right, so, first of all, to some of the 18th last _ evening. right, so, first of all, to some of the 18th last year, - evening. right, so, first of all, to some of the 18th last year, take l evening. right, so, first of all, to l some of the 18th last year, take us back, just a few days before where where we in terms of cobit roles in england? where we in terms of cobit roles in encland? 'j~ ., , . , england? so, the 18th of december, we in london. _ england? so, the 18th of december, we in london, they _ england? so, the 18th of december, we in london, they were _ england? so, the 18th of december, we in london, they were the - england? so, the 18th of december, we in london, they were the three i we in london, they were the three tiers which later became the four tiers, and in tier three, you could not have a gathering of over one person and indoors without it being reasonably necessary for work. that is for work purposes. and at the same time, you have government guidance which is very clear, christmas guidance, there was a lot of talk about will be cut or couldn't do over christmas, and at the same time, guidance that set although there are exemptions for work purposes, you must not have a work purposes, you must not have a work lunch or a christmas party where that is a primarily social activity and is not otherwise permitted by the you that rules. so i think that's pretty clear. 50. i think that's pretty clear. so, from your _ i think that's pretty clear. so, from your reading _ i think that's pretty clear. 50, from your reading of that i think that's pretty clear. so, from your reading of that guidance and thank you for reminding us about it, does this gathering at number ten downing st on december the 18th, did it break the rules? the ten downing st on december the 18th, did it break the rules?— did it break the rules? the first auestion did it break the rules? the first question is _ did it break the rules? the first question is is _ did it break the rules? the first question is is it _ did it break the rules? the first question is is it a _ did it break the rules? the first question is is it a christmas - question is is it a christmas party? is at a primarily social activity? and from what your source says, it was party games, they went on until after midnight. it was quite clearly after midnight. it was quite clearly a christmas party, so it's certainly in my view broke that guidance, which is the government's on guidance, and a question of what such a criminal offence? where at that time you could get a 10,000 penalty notice automatically if you are involved in holding or held a gathering of over 30 people indoors. so, that, you know can i think that's an important question, and there is a fee was slightly complicated legal questions around the status of ten downing st, whether the rules apply there, but without a doubt, the guidance of cloud there is the government some guidance,. i cloud there is the government some auidance,. ., �* ~' ., cloud there is the government some auidance,. ~ ., guidance,. i don't know if you watch pmp is, but when _ guidance,. i don't know if you watch pmp is, but when the _ guidance,. i don't know if you watch pmp is, but when the leader of - guidance,. i don't know if you watch pmp is, but when the leader of the | pmp is, but when the leader of the labour party asked if a party had been held at number ten on december the 18th during practicum in the prime minister said" all guidance is followed." ., �* , prime minister said" all guidance is followed.“ . �*, ., , , prime minister said" all guidance is followed.“ . �*, ., _ ., followed." that's obviously wrong. i aet asked followed." that's obviously wrong. i get asked a — followed." that's obviously wrong. i get asked a lot _ followed." that's obviously wrong. i get asked a lot of _ followed." that's obviously wrong. i get asked a lot of questions - followed." that's obviously wrong. i get asked a lot of questions about l get asked a lot of questions about these regulations, and i have been over the last 18 months, quite often, there is slightly complicated question where the rules were followed or not, but this rule said no christmas parties. it is as clear as night and day, and if you can have a party, which everybody would consider that to be a party with party games, secret santa i think was reported in the mirror, drinks, that sort of thing, obviously that didn't follow the guidance, whether it's a criminal offence is quite possible that it was. the attendee who has spoken _ possible that it was. the attendee who has spoken to _ possible that it was. the attendee who has spoken to our— possible that it was. the attendee who has spoken to our political. who has spoken to our political editor is sad that the gathering had gone on past midnight and the mood was down with concerned building about the new kent variants what do you think of that?— you think of that? well, i mean, doesnt you think of that? well, i mean, doesn't matter _ you think of that? well, i mean, doesn't matter if _ you think of that? well, i mean, doesn't matter if it _ you think of that? well, i mean, doesn't matter if it was - you think of that? well, i mean, doesn't matter if it was good - you think of that? well, i mean, l doesn't matter if it was good party or a bad party. doesn't matter if it was good party ora bad party. it doesn't matter if it was good party or a bad party. it was still prohibited by the rules. they certainly don't require people to be having a good time, and i think, you know, it'sjust pretty having a good time, and i think, you know, it's just pretty clear to me that that probe the guidance and potential he was a criminal offence as well, notjust for the people who organise step up for everyone who attended as well. qm. organise step up for everyone who attended as well.— attended as well. 0k, very interesting, _ attended as well. 0k, very interesting, criminal- attended as well. 0k, very i interesting, criminal offence potentially for everyone there. thank you very much for talking to us. thank you for your insight into what the rules were last year. we will show you the christmas tree in downing street outside number ten because the lights have just been switched on. that is definitely a gathering, but potentially not, they hadn't been switched on, so sorry, but there is a gathering which is allowed at this point, but that kind of thing wasn't in the last year. let's speak with ben. ok, we heard what the prime minister said at lunch time. what is downing street saying about it now has more questions are asked?- saying about it now has more questions are asked? they are re -aeatin questions are asked? they are repeating the _ questions are asked? they are repeating the line _ questions are asked? they are repeating the line that - questions are asked? they are repeating the line that as - questions are asked? they are repeating the line that as far l questions are asked? they are | repeating the line that as far as they are concerned all the rules were obeyed, that no rules were broken. the prime minister will be out in downing street any second now to turn on the lights and it is packed out here, schoolchildren who have come from his constituency, a brass band about to pipe up, so, there is a very busy atmosphere today, but all the focus as you have been saying is what was happening this time last year, and questions around those two parties. and as he said for me bbc has confirmed that there was a party of sorts on the 18th of december as the daily mirror first reported today, and these reports formed the basis of the clash between cara starmer and boris johnson at prime minister is question time this lunchtime. —— are one. —— kier starmer. "you must not have a work christmas lunch or party." does the prime minister really expect the country to believe that while people were banned from seeing their loved ones at christmas last year, it was fine for him and his friends to throw a boozy party in downing street? since he asks about what we are l asking the country to do this year, mr speaker, which i think is frankly a more relevant consideration, - to make sure, as we have said, that you wear masks in, - on public transport and in shops, mr speaker, and that _ you self—isolate if you come - into contact with somebody who has omicron, mr speaker, _ and above all we are strengthening our measures at the borders, and particularly, i think this l will be valuable for everybody to hear — get your booster. i so, as we heard, all the guidance was followed, downing street are repeating this afternoon, as you have just told us, repeating this afternoon, as you havejust told us, that repeating this afternoon, as you have just told us, that no rules were broken. how is it possible that no rules were broken? thatjust doesn't make sense, does it? we can't doesn't make sense, does it? - can'tjudge yet whether doesn't make sense, does it? - can't judge yet whether rules were can'tjudge yet whether rules were broken or not. we have downing street's assistance that the rules where at the time, particularly on the 18th of december, two parties where had. when at the end of november and the second one once london had already gone into tier three restrictions, they are saying confidently that no rules were broke in, and the guidance was adhered to, but, like, they could be more details that come out that make that a difficult claim to sustain. at the moment, downing street are sticking to the line that the rules are followed. laboursense to the line that the rules are followed. labour sense that it's onto something here and is causing the government political difficulty, accusing it once again of hypocrisy and following one set of rules while others in the country were being told to do something else. that of course is the charge from labour. and will you be able to ask questions and some questions when he comes out to switch the lights on? well certainly i will probably shout something if it's possible, but this is a gathering for his constituency, for people who work in whitehall, for people who work in whitehall, for people who grew the tree, which i can take them from devon. this could make asking a question quite difficult, victoria. the band has started. he will be out any second. thank you very much, been for the moment. maybe we look back to downing street when the prime ministry marriages. ican take i can take their 32 confirmed cases at the moment throughout the uk. 22 of those are in england and ten are in scotland. as i've said recently, we do expect cases to go up, and we are working hard in terms of testing and target testing and sequencing of those tests to do that, but also some of the recent measures that we announced i think are very targeted measures, such as the need to self isolate if you come into close contact with someone who might have a suspected case of this new variant. i think these are together the right type of measures. i think they are balanced and proportionate. what do you make of whose current analysis _ what do you make of whose current analysis that the new variant may be, analysis that the new variant may he, the _ analysis that the new variant may be, the cases that they see our miid~ _ be, the cases that they see our miid~ |— be, the cases that they see our mild. ~' be, the cases that they see our mild. ~ ., ., .. .,,, mild. i think we altogether across the world learn _ mild. i think we altogether across the world learn more _ mild. i think we altogether across the world learn more about - mild. i think we altogether across the world learn more about this i the world learn more about this variant, the work that the world health organisation does, it will be important, but equally what we do, i hosted a call for my g7 counterparts just yesterday to talk with them and listen to them about the work that they are doing, so we will all work together, and i think in doing so, we can collectively learn much more about this variant.— about this variant. before he made that comment. _ about this variant. before he made that comment, the _ health secretary and the prime minister have both said there is no need to cancel christmas parties, despite the emergence of the omicron variant, but hospitality businesses have already reported a rise in cancellations over the last number of days. one business owner who has seen an impact already is dave critchley, owner and executive head chef at lu ban restaurant in liverpool. hello to you. tell us what is happening on the ground. it has been, happening on the ground. it has been. well. _ happening on the ground. it has been, well, worryingly, - happening on the ground. it has been, well, worryingly, to - happening on the ground. it has been, well, worryingly, to be i been, well, worryingly, to be honest. we have had a few cancellations coming in, likely not too many at this stage, but certainly enough to almost have us looking over our shoulder and seen, right, what is coming, what will happen again? we lost a few bigger parties, largertables, happen again? we lost a few bigger parties, larger tables, these would been office parties are big family gatherings, yeah, they have cancelled with covid being the main reason, which is obviously worrying at this time of year for us, large parties are our bread and butter over the festive period, so it is a bit of a worry. over the festive period, so it is a bit of a worry-— bit of a worry. presumably you've not the bit of a worry. presumably you've got the right number— bit of a worry. presumably you've got the right number of _ bit of a worry. presumably you've got the right number of staff, - bit of a worry. presumably you've| got the right number of staff, you have bought food, supplies, drink, you have paid for all of that i assume. ., you have paid for all of that i assume. . ., , . , assume. yeah, i mean december traditionally _ assume. yeah, i mean december traditionally be _ assume. yeah, i mean december traditionally be gearing _ assume. yeah, i mean december traditionally be gearing up - assume. yeah, i mean december traditionally be gearing up for- assume. yeah, i mean december traditionally be gearing up for a l traditionally be gearing up for a really big month. it's a month that as hospitality owners, we end staff members, we look forward to it. it's a good month of trade for us and one that we do rely on to cs the leaner months into january. obviously with us being closed for such a long time, we do have these debts from last year that we are desperate to get paid off and done. so, december would normally be a time where we are stocking up big, a lot of hours for all of our staff, yeah, at the moment, as it stands, it still looking guide, but obviously the number of bookings that are starting to cancel, we have to be conscious about it. do to cancel, we have to be conscious about it. ,, ~ ., ., . to cancel, we have to be conscious about it. ~' ., ., . ., , about it. do you know how much money ou have about it. do you know how much money you have lost — about it. do you know how much money you have lost so — about it. do you know how much money you have lost so far— about it. do you know how much money you have lost so far as _ about it. do you know how much money you have lost so far as a _ about it. do you know how much money you have lost so far as a result - about it. do you know how much money you have lost so far as a result of- you have lost so far as a result of those cancellations?— you have lost so far as a result of those cancellations? i mean, i can onl be a those cancellations? i mean, i can only be a rough — those cancellations? i mean, i can only be a rough estimate, - those cancellations? i mean, i can only be a rough estimate, but - those cancellations? i mean, i can only be a rough estimate, but wel those cancellations? i mean, i can i only be a rough estimate, but we did lose a couple of large outside catering gigs for us, which meant we would've been off the premises delivering canapes and food in another establishment. we've lost two of those, which would've been considerable for a small independent business like ours, that would've been about £12,000. each of the big parties that you are looking at, it could be anything. every big party, ten plus, we could be making decent money off of that, up to 50 or hundred pounds each. so for a small business like ours, that is a considerable amount of money. {iii considerable amount of money. of course it is. can i ask you, dave, as you have just described, christmas parties are being cancelled. what about to the taxpayer the claim that there was a party at number ten downing st a year ago during lockdown, number ten say all covid guidance was followed. for me, not really going to get into that, but to my concern at the moment is my staff. wejust that, but to my concern at the moment is my staff. we just have to do what we are advised to do. we want to keep our staff safe in our guests safe, and we want to survive as a business. so for me, all eyes forward on christmas and trying to make it as profitable as possible, fingers crossed as well to make sure that we don't see too many more cancellations or even worse we see another lockdown on the horizon because that could be really tough for us. . ., because that could be really tough for us. . ~' ,, because that could be really tough for us. ., ,, i. ., ., ,, ., because that could be really tough for us. ., ,, ., ., ,, ., , for us. thank you for talking to us. take care- — for us. thank you for talking to us. take care. thanks _ for us. thank you for talking to us. take care. thanks very _ for us. thank you for talking to us. take care. thanks very much. - this afternoon, the world health organisation have been giving an update on the new variant. dr mike ryan, executive director of the who's health emergencies programme, said there is no evidence that he knows of, that giving boosters to whole populations will provide greater protection. the primary objective, i think, of all governments now must be in the face of delta and omicron is to ensure that all vulnerable individuals, people of older age, people with underlying conditions are immediately offered the vaccine to ensure that everyone has had at least a primary course of vaccine. they may have a better answer than me regarding the benefits of a booster regarding other variants, but right now, there is no evidence that i'm aware of that would suggest that boosting the entire population is going to necessarily provide any greater protection for otherwise healthy individuals against hospitalisation or debt. ——against hospitalisation or death. the real risk of severe disease, hospitalisation and death lies in particularly at risk and vulnerable individuals who do require protection against all variants of covid—19. i'm joined by dr margaret harris from the world health organisation in geneva. can you just explain that in more detail, what your colleague was saying there?— detail, what your colleague was saying there? detail, what your colleague was sa in: there? . , saying there? that evening. yes, the oint there saying there? that evening. yes, the point there is — saying there? that evening. yes, the point there is that _ saying there? that evening. yes, the point there is that we _ saying there? that evening. yes, the point there is that we are _ saying there? that evening. yes, the point there is that we are not - point there is that we are not seeing giving the booster necessarily changes anything in the healthy population. the people that you really need to be focusing on are those who are most likely, the vulnerable, most likely to have a severe illness, that's all there people, that's people with comorbidities, and they are not living generally in the uk because you have been really great at getting those people vaccinated. we are talking about the people around the world who remain unvaccinated who are in those categories because it's in those people that you're going to see the virus create large numbers of copies of itself because they get the more severe disease. so that's where you have the opportunity for the virus to develop variants and pose ever greater threats to all of us. so variants and pose ever greater threats to all of us.— variants and pose ever greater threats to all of us. so should we be aaivin threats to all of us. so should we be giving our _ threats to all of us. so should we be giving our boosters _ threats to all of us. so should we be giving our boosters to - threats to all of us. so should we be giving our boosters to poorerl be giving our boosters to poorer populations?— be giving our boosters to poorer --oulations? ~ ., . ., , populations? well, we have certainly been sa in: populations? well, we have certainly been saying please _ populations? well, we have certainly been saying please have _ populations? well, we have certainly been saying please have a _ populations? well, we have certainly. been saying please have a moratorium on booster is. first of all, because we would like to see the evidence. we have not seen the evidence that this actually confers any kind of advantage, but secondly, because there is such a maldistribution of there is such a maldistribution of the vaccine. we have been screaming out, as i think you know, over and over again for greater supplies of vaccines for the rest of the world, and it's not necessarily that the one you get tomorrow doesn't go to somebody in afghanistan, but if you are much more attractive market for the producers, they are going to focus on you and we are going to struggle to get to the front of the queue to purchase the vaccines for the rest of the world.— queue to purchase the vaccines for the rest of the world. when you say ou the rest of the world. when you say you haven't — the rest of the world. when you say you haven't seen _ the rest of the world. when you say you haven't seen the _ the rest of the world. when you say you haven't seen the evidence - the rest of the world. when you say you haven't seen the evidence that l you haven't seen the evidence that boosters do confirm more protection on healthy population, we have heard our chief medical officer, the chief scientific adviser urging us to get boosters and thejcb i.e., they are the independent vaccination experts have suggested that all 80 —— over eight teams in this country should get the booster programme. because immunity wanes and the booster boosts immunity. 50. immunity wanes and the booster boosts immunity.— immunity wanes and the booster boosts immunity. so, we are seeing, i think boosts immunity. so, we are seeing, i think one — boosts immunity. so, we are seeing, i think one of — boosts immunity. so, we are seeing, i think one of the _ boosts immunity. so, we are seeing, i think one of the big _ boosts immunity. so, we are seeing, i think one of the big confusing - i think one of the big confusing things is especially against delta the vaccines have never been that good at preventing transmission from us and many governments, many countries have looked to putting an extra dose into their populations in order to do something about transmission. the critical thing to do to barely stop transmission and other public health and social measures which are much less popular because that means not crowding, that means wearing your mask, working from home or you can, really improving tech tracking and trading in testing and i heard people talking about isolating if they been in contact with some of what omicron, you should be isolating if you are in contact with simone without the. it is delta that is ripping through europe right now. the uk is in that number of cases and your death rate has gone up dramatically in the last few weeks. it is the delta outbreak that we ought to be really serious about. that's interesting. the focus, as you know, is on omicron. what does the who know so far about omicron, given that nigeria's public health institute said today that they have a sample dating back to october. so, we are a sample dating back to october. srr, we are certainly a sample dating back to october. so, we are certainly not a sample dating back to october. s53, we are certainly not surprised to hear that omicron has been around longer since the middle of november, but we know that south africa has done a fantastic science and have always been good. they picked one of the first variance that was paid out, which was identified at the same time as the variant outside, which is identified by great signs in the uk. but which is identified by great signs in the uk. �* ., ,, ., ., in the uk. but what we know about emiurants in the uk. but what we know about emigrants of— in the uk. but what we know about emigrants of our? _ in the uk. but what we know about emigrants of our? anyway, - in the uk. but what we know about emigrants of our? anyway, it's - in the uk. but what we know about emigrants of our? anyway, it's not| emigrants of our? anyway, it's not surrisin: emigrants of our? anyway, it's not surprising that _ emigrants of our? anyway, it's not surprising that it _ emigrants of our? anyway, it's not surprising that it may _ emigrants of our? anyway, it's not surprising that it may have - emigrants of our? anyway, it's not surprising that it may have been i surprising that it may have been around before hanscom and it's not surprising that it may have been in countries. what we don't know yet is how transmissible and what level of disease it causes and whether it has the ability to escape the vaccines. we do know that many more than we've seenin we do know that many more than we've seen in previous variance. some of those mutations has been seen in other variance and have given those variance a degree of an advantage. so that's why we raised it right to the variance of concern level right from the start.— from the start. 0k, and england, there are 22 _ from the start. 0k, and england, there are 22 cases _ from the start. 0k, and england, there are 22 cases thus _ from the start. 0k, and england, there are 22 cases thus far. - from the start. 0k, and england, there are 22 cases thus far. it's l from the start. 0k, and england, there are 22 cases thus far. it's a j there are 22 cases thus far. it's a tiny amount. there are 22 cases thus far. it's a tiny amount-— tiny amount. yes, you want to find the cases and _ tiny amount. yes, you want to find the cases and so _ tiny amount. yes, you want to find the cases and so you _ tiny amount. yes, you want to find the cases and so you really - tiny amount. yes, you want to find the cases and so you really go - the cases and so you really go looking, but in deed what you need to be focusing on is the big elephant in the room, and that is delta. . ., elephant in the room, and that is delta. ., ,, , ., elephant in the room, and that is delta. . ~' , ., , elephant in the room, and that is delta. ., ,, i. , . delta. 0k, thank you very much, thank you _ delta. ok, thank you very much, thank you for— delta. 0k, thank you very much, thank you for talking _ delta. 0k, thank you very much, thank you for talking to - delta. 0k, thank you very much, thank you for talking to us. - delta. 0k, thank you very much, thank you for talking to us. back| delta. 0k, thank you very much, i thank you for talking to us. back to downing street, where this year's christmas tree lights have just been switched on. oh, now, they happen. i'll my goodness. i keep telling you, and then a look at the picture, and they are still in darkness. laughter i apologise. we better not miss this now after this build—up. iamjust i am just looking at the social distancing or not that is going on there, is anyone wearing a mask? i mean, you know, they are outside, obviously, some maybe that makes a difference. the lights having not gone on yet, as he can tell. so, i promise you that in another minute and a half, i would say that the lights will be switched on and may be, by that time, they will have gone. the number of people on the nhs waiting list and england could double to 12,000,000 come in a little over three years commit also estimates that the number of referrals for a suspected cancer cases made by gps in england during the pandemic as between a quarter of 1,000,000 three quarters of a million fewer than would had been expected. sean walsh as head of public affairs and campaigning at cancer research uk. hello to you, mister walsh. this is during the pandemic, up to 740,000 missing patients, how do you react to that? ., . , missing patients, how do you react to that? ., ., , , , ., to that? unfortunately, this is not a surrise to that? unfortunately, this is not a surprise to _ to that? unfortunately, this is not a surprise to us _ to that? unfortunately, this is not a surprise to us at _ to that? unfortunately, this is not| a surprise to us at cancer research uk or across the cancer community which have been ringing the alarm bell on this for some time now and it's a stark reminder that cancer won't wait for the pandemic to pass. what we really need to see and we are expecting him for the government to publish their elective care strategy cancer services, the restoration of cancer services and reaching out and finding the missing patients identified in the report has to be an absolute priority for that plan. has to be an absolute priority for that lan. ~ , ., i. has to be an absolute priority for that lan. ~ , ., ,, ~' has to be an absolute priority for thatlan.~ , ., ~ �*, ., that plan. why do you think it's not ha enin: that plan. why do you think it's not happening so _ that plan. why do you think it's not happening so far- _ that plan. why do you think it's not happening so far. the _ that plan. why do you think it's not happening so far. the nhs - that plan. why do you think it's not happening so far. the nhs has - that plan. why do you think it's not| happening so far. the nhs has been treating cancer for happening so far. the nhs has been treating cancerfor a happening so far. the nhs has been treating cancer for a while happening so far. the nhs has been treating cancerfor a while now, not the initial stages of lockdown everyone says they understand, but it has been opened up to potential cancer cases so why are these people not coming forward? i cancer cases so why are these people not coming forward?— not coming forward? i think there is a uimlet of not coming forward? i think there is a gimlet of the _ not coming forward? i think there is a gimlet of the fact _ not coming forward? i think there is a gimlet of the fact so, _ not coming forward? i think there is a gimlet of the fact so, you - a gimlet of the fact so, you know, early in the pandemic screening services especially stopped and we calculated that there was about 3,000,000 appointments that were not held. people did not come forward, as he segment i think there is still some medicine to monks the public about coming forward. they read and hear about how much pressure the nhs is under they often don't want to be a further burden on that. the nhs is absolutely open for you, and if people have any concerns about their health or bumps and lumps they are not sure about they should absolutely go and see the gp and get that checked out. the nhs is open, as you say, cancer services has started to recover, but the real challenge was that we were missing cancer waiting time targets before the pandemic hit us, so what we have seen is the pandemic really reinforcing and compounding that challenge. what we really need, and this is not something that will solve the problem today, but because we haven't addressed it, it's compounding the problem we face today. there is simply a shortage of nhs cancer work for us. there's not enough people working in nhs to diagnose and treat cancer soon enough. what we need to see in the government committed to this in the recent spending reveal what's funding for the cancer work for us. we have no clarity on that, so alongside the elective recovery plan, we need to see a commitment to funding the workforce so that they are people there to meet the demand for diagnosis, which as you say is increasing. for diagnosis, which as you say is increasing-— for diagnosis, which as you say is increasing. the extra billions that the government _ increasing. the extra billions that the government has _ increasing. the extra billions that the government has is _ increasing. the extra billions that the government has is given - increasing. the extra billions that the government has is given to i increasing. the extra billions that l the government has is given to the nhs this year, next and going forwards. are you saying you need a bit of that to be ring fenced bar cancer work for us, or are you saying you need an extra bed? well, i think saying you need an extra bed? well, i think most — saying you need an extra bed? well, i think most health _ saying you need an extra bed? -ii i think most health observers would say we need an extra bit, but we have to recognise the environment in which we are breaking. the government had committed prior to the spending review that there would be funding allocated for cancer services and the cancer work for us. the government did announce 100 new community diagnostic centres, which is really good news, so means and mechanisms by which we can diagnose cancer earlier and sooner, but we need to staff to run those services, you know? the mantra we have is planes need pilots, so we can build as many hospitals, we can invest in as many hospitals, we can invest in as many hospitals, we can invest in as many services and kit would need for people to bundle services, and as you know, the real tragedy of cancer is diagnosing it soon. that's the real key to cancer is diagnosing its impulse that there is hope that we have almost doubled cancer survivor and the last 40 years. largely to research, understanding cancer better, understanding the kind of interventions we can make which lead to better health outcomes, but unless we have the people to do those diagnostic tests, then we are going to be swimming up hill on this issue, i'm afraid. thank you very much, mister walsh, thank you. thank you for talking to us. five days after the worst of storm arwen, 30,000 homes are still without power — because of "catastrophic" damage to the electricity network. parts of aberdeenshire have the been worst affected areas — with areas of the north of england also suffering. the business secretary, kwasi kwarteng, told mps that a dedicated team of engineers were working around the clock to restore the network. i'm satisfied that these operators are sharing their resources through mutual aid agreements and through putting engineers to the worst affected areas, and i'm extremely grateful to emergency responders who have also been working very hard to keep people as comfortable as possible, providing torches, blankets and other necessities. scottish power has apologised to customers as work continues to repair supplies there. we have been speaking to a man in barix share who was discharged from hospital last night and is still with our electric dash without electricity at home. it's not been great for my life because dash my wife because she suffers from copd and her eyesight is poor. i took her to the hospital last wednesday, and ijust got out last wednesday, and ijust got out last night, i was an emergency admission from a size you can see, i'm a bit worse for wear, but i'm worried because i'm not the dash i've not been in contact with my way for a few 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tomorrow. here is the range of clear southern counties in the next couple of hours. we will carry on with sarah's running in from the north sea through the night and as it turns called to my risk of them turning wintry, even down to sea level across scotland and ice first thing particularly for northern scotland, the northeast of england, parts of wales and the southwest where we pick up some showers towards the end of the night as well. they have wintry weather across the highlands on thursday, some wintry showers running again out down the north sea integrating into pride of east anglia. overall, actually, the biggest proportion of the uk, the day will be a fine line with a lot of sunshine, but the one thing we cannot escape is just how chilly it is going to the ultimate particularly in the breeze. top temperature is four to the ultimate particularly in the breeze. top temperatures for four or five celsius quite widely. hello this is bbc news. the headlines. after the prime minister refuses to deny that christmas gatherings took place in downing street during lockdown, an attendee tells the bbc that several dozen people were there for drinks, food and games. borisjohnson said all boris johnson said all guidance borisjohnson said all guidance was followed. human rights character told as everyone at the party could've been a criminal offence. it's pretty clear to me that guidance and probably a criminal offence as well. notjust for the organisers were for everybody who attended. no need to cancel your christmas parties says the health secretary — despite the rise in cases of the omicron variant. sajid javid urged people to get their booster jab to combat covid. it comes as leaked documents from scientific advisers urge officials to prepare for �*a potentially significant wave' of infections — the world health organisation urges developed countries to focus on sharing jabs with poorer nations, instead of expanding their own booster programmes. right now there is no evidence that i'm aware of that will suggest boosting the entire population is going to necessarily provide any greater protection for otherwise healthy individuals against hospitalisation or death. tens of thousands of people face a sixth night without power following outages in north england and scotland caused by storm arwen. the government outlines more details of its 10—year plan to reform the social care system in england, including £300 million investment to help people live longer independently. sport and for a full round up, from the bbc sport centre... not long to go unti lthe merseyside derby later — it's one of six fixtures in the premier league tonight. and, while rafael benitez has managed at 14 of those games — this will be his first time as everton manager. of course he was boss at liverpool for six seasons. and he'll become the first man in more than a century to have taken charge of both clubs in a merseyside derby. but he has a tough task on his hands. his everton side are not in the best form, they're without a win in seven matches — 14th in the league — liverpool are up in third. it is a massive game for us and we had a bad run now. and we need to start winning and the derby is always an opportunity to put things right, so a massive game for us and we are thinking aboutjust getting three points. it is a massive game for us and we had a bad run now. and we need to start winning and the derby is always an opportunity to put things right, so a massive game for us and we are thinking aboutjust getting three points. at the same time, manchester city manager pep guardiola says he has an emergency ahead of tonights match against aston villa. jack grealish was expected to play against his old club, but he is one of several doubts for city, leaving the manager with only 14 or 15 first team players available. we are in an emergency, and emergency of the fact of the squad having a few, few people. and, for red cards, people are missing out. we have to come back and never complain and never miss the players who are not possible to play for injuries, red cards, for any reason. four games in the scottish premiership tonight. after putting them out of the scottish league cup, hibs play rangers in the league later. that's sixth place taking on the top of the table at easter road. elsewhere livingston travel to pittodrie to play aberdeen. dundee host st johnstone. and a long journey for ross county from dingwall to play st mirren in paisley. johanna konta has said she's very grateful for her career in tennis after announcing her retirement from the sport. the thirty year old won four titles on the wta tour and holds the record for the longest time as women's british number one. konta reached the semi—finals at wimbledon in 2017, eventually losing to simona halep. but that took her to the position of world number four that year — the highest ranking by a british woman since virginia wade in 1978. however, konta has struggled with her fitness. an abdominal injury, then contracting covid, meant she missed both wimbledon and the olympics this year. she's also been sufferring from heart palpitations. konta said whatever she does next, it will involve tennis. i definitely see myself staying in this sport, to a certain extent. i don't know to what capacity but i love the sport on this board ——sport has given so much to me so i would definitely love to share that with other people. scottish swimmer hannah miley has also announced her retirement. miley won world, european and commonwealth titles, only olympic medals eluding her, she represented great britain at three olympic games. former england captain michael vaughan has been dropped from bt sport's coverage of the ashes, following the accusation made by former yorkshire cricketer azeem rafiq that he made a racist comment to a group of asian players. vaughan has repeatedly denied the allegation, specifically in a recent interview with bbc breakfast a few days ago where he also apologised for the pain azeem rafiq experienced during his time at yorkshire. the allegation was mentioned in rafiq's testimony to a dcms select committee looking into historical racism at yorkshire county cricket club. bt sport's decision comes after the bbc dropped vaughan from their ashes coverage. bt sport said in a statement... ronnie o'sullivan is through to the quarterfinals of the uk snooker championship in york. the seven—time champion saw off thailand's noppon saeng—kham, winning four straight frames to take the match 6—3, finishing with a century break. he faces kyren wilson or ben wollaston next. in the other fourth round match, zhao xintong beat england's peter lines 6—4. and before we go, glasgow has won the bid to host the world athletics indoor championships in 2024. more on that story on the bbc sport website. next sportsday with john watson at 6.30. i'm john watson at 6.30. guessing you are at the edge your i'm guessing you are at the edge of your seat waiting for the lights to be turned on. we try to catch the moment earlier and failed twice. but the prime minister has now switched them on. here it is.— them on. here it is. five, for the 84. three. _ them on. here it is. five, for the 84. three. two. _ them on. here it is. five, for the 84, three, two, one. _ them on. here it is. five, for the 84, three, two, one. cheering.| them on. here it is. five, for the - 84, three, two, one. cheering. nowa typical_ 84, three, two, one. cheering. nowa typical uk— 84, three, two, one. cheering. nowa typical uk family will spend £17 more _ typical uk family will spend £17 more according to a forecast by bbc panorama — it's also from problems in the uk supply chain from a shortage of drivers... what's for dinner tonight? this family are struggling with rising prices. nikki, a nurse and husband martin who works for a builders merchant are on average incomes. ladle builders merchant are on average incomes. ~ , ., , , incomes. we try and budget very 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doubled in price. _ up. my drink, that's definitely doubled in price. yoghurt, i doubled in price. yoghurt, definitely, that is going up for sure — definitely, that is going up for sure. , . . definitely, that is going up for sure. , ., . ., ., definitely, that is going up for sure. ., ., .,., ., sure. research done for panorama track prices _ sure. research done for panorama track prices of _ sure. research done for panorama track prices of some _ sure. research done for panorama track prices of some essential - sure. research done for panorama track prices of some essential fuelj track prices of some essential fuel did not food track prices of some essential fuel did not foo— did not food none of it shows that since inflation _ did not food none of it shows that since inflation is _ did not food none of it shows that since inflation is expected - did not food none of it shows that since inflation is expected to - did not food none of it shows that | since inflation is expected to stand at least 4% by time christmas comes around. fortypical at least 4% by time christmas comes around. for typical household in the uk that means their monthly spending will be around hundred and £9 higher thanit will be around hundred and £9 higher than it was for the same basket of goods and services last year time. across the uk supply chain there are shortages of lorry drivers and seasonal workers. the result of brexit and covid. some of the challenges are due to global pressure. it offered 30,000 visas for seasonal workers but growers say it's not enough. and like a charter one company has offered tempting wages to try and lure british workers. ~ ., ., , ., workers. we had airline pilot supply and all sorts- _ workers. we had airline pilot supply and all sorts. there _ workers. we had airline pilot supply and all sorts. there is _ workers. we had airline pilot supply and all sorts. there is only - and all sorts. there is only actually tend they could do the job. the government says a long—term answer to the labour shortages investment in technology like robo veg, a machine picks broccoli. we've set it u- veg, a machine picks broccoli. we've set it up to — veg, a machine picks broccoli. we've set it up to be _ veg, a machine picks broccoli. we've set it up to be as— veg, a machine picks broccoli. we've set it up to be as fast _ veg, a machine picks broccoli. we've set it up to be as fast as _ veg, a machine picks broccoli. we've set it up to be as fast as a _ veg, a machine picks broccoli. we've set it up to be as fast as a team of. set it up to be as fast as a team of seven— set it up to be as fast as a team of seven people in the field. a machine like this will — seven people in the field. a machine like this will cost _ seven people in the field. a machine like this will cost nearly _ seven people in the field. a machine like this will cost nearly £500,000, | like this will cost nearly £500,000, a significant investment. and it can't solve richard's problems right now. , ., . , can't solve richard's problems right now. , .. , ., ., , can't solve richard's problems right now. , , ., ., , now. these machines are really good to be a commercial _ now. these machines are really good to be a commercial use _ now. these machines are really good to be a commercial use for another. to be a commercial use for another two or— to be a commercial use for another two or three — to be a commercial use for another two or three years. until we get there _ two or three years. until we get there we — two or three years. until we get there we need people to do the work. with all— there we need people to do the work. with all their costs, labour and energy rising to, this grower says the increases will eventually have to be passed on to consumers. the government says it will carry on working with industry to tackle ongoing challenges. new figures for the office for national statistics show that 688 homeless people died. died. in england and wales in 2020. this is a decrease from 778 in 2019 and is the first fall in the number of estimated deaths since 2014. the figures are affected by the everyone in scheme — where homeless people were provided with emergency accommodation during the pandemic. the founder and lead of find and treat service based out of university college london hospital. take her talking to us with up to tell us about this first week back service first of all. tell tell us about this first week back service first of all.— service first of all. tell us what ou do. service first of all. tell us what you do- good _ service first of all. tell us what you do. good evening - service first of all. tell us what you do. good evening all. - service first of all. tell us what you do. good evening all. we i service first of all. tell us what i you do. good evening all. we are in outreach team that have been working for the last two decades, outreach and health care to the most vulnerable people in our society. people who experience the highest rate of life shortening premature death out of any group in this country. mainly people experiencing homelessness, which is what use just that it's been rising year on year for the last decade. everyone in was in unprecedented offer of accommodation to people where we were fast, we were able to mobilise quickly, were able to get in london alone more than 5,000 people in by may. people came in from should the street in the image of their own room with the dignity of their own dorm, a bed, three square meals a day, bathroom, access to health care and an expert staff team to support them. �* ., and an expert staff team to support them. �* . ., ,, , ., and an expert staff team to support them. ~ . ., ,, , ., , . them. and that makes a difference. but et them. and that makes a difference. itut yet still — them. and that makes a difference. but yet still despite _ them. and that makes a difference. but yet still despite that _ but yet still despite that happening from april, may onwards, still 688 people died who are homeless. that’s people died who are homeless. that's 'ust a people died who are homeless. that's just a testament _ people died who are homeless. that's just a testament to _ people died who are homeless. that's just a testament to the _ people died who are homeless. “trust�*s just a testament to the shocking premature mortality that we see. homelessness is preventable, deaths in homeless people are preventable. the mortality that most people who are living on the street is comparable to people in a war zone. if these were maternal child would have a national inquiry. i5 if these were maternal child would have a national inquiry.— have a national inquiry. is that riaht, have a national inquiry. is that right, equivalent _ have a national inquiry. is that right, equivalent to _ have a national inquiry. is that right, equivalent to people - have a national inquiry. is that right, equivalent to people in l have a national inquiry. is that| right, equivalent to people in a have a national inquiry. is that - right, equivalent to people in a war zoneyes, absolutely. the right, equivalent to people in a war zoneyes, absolutely.— zoneyes, absolutely. the risk of premature _ zoneyes, absolutely. the risk of premature death _ zoneyes, absolutely. the risk of premature death that _ zoneyes, absolutely. the risk of premature death that you - zoneyes, absolutely. the risk of premature death that you see i zoneyes, absolutely. the risk of| premature death that you see in zoneyes, absolutely. the risk of - premature death that you see in men and women in the street is almost tenfold than that seen in the general population. so, it's almost off the map. it's an absolute cliff, it's an aberration.— off the map. it's an absolute cliff, it's an aberration. now you may have been one of— it's an aberration. now you may have been one of those _ it's an aberration. now you may have been one of those people _ it's an aberration. now you may have been one of those people who - it's an aberration. now you may have been one of those people who said i been one of those people who said last year, "look, we can do this, we can give accommodation, we can give a roof, four walls and some dignity to people who normally would sleep on the street. we did it, so why are we doing it now? this on the street. 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". we did it, so why are we doing it now? this is a very aood are we doing it now? this is a very good point- _ are we doing it now? this is a very good point. homelessness, - are we doing it now? this is a very good point. homelessness, is - are we doing it now? this is a very good point. homelessness, is a i good point. homelessness, is a problem that's unfixable for that with its become normal, desensitised to people living on the streets. and it took a pandemic to bring that humanity out of us and realise that we can do this and we did that. homelessness is a strange issue. it's a problem that probably cost a lot more to manage than it would to fix. if you look at what was achieved and everyone in i think that's really large in the drop in the first time we ever measured a fall in mortality amongst people experiencing homelessness is up and in my mind that's quite simply attributable to the dignity of what we consider normal. a bed, food, health care and some work to basically recover away from the stress and nightmare of living on the streets. stress and nightmare of living on the streets-— stress and nightmare of living on the streets. . ,, , ., , . ., the streets. thank you very much for talkin: to the streets. thank you very much for talking to us- — the government has announced a new repair service to help homeless and independent lay in their own home is part of a social care reform. it's investing at least £300,000,000 or increase the range of supported housing. and at least £150 to drive greater adoption of technology which can support independent living and improve care. the measures are all part of an announcement of how ministers plan to reform social care. labour say the plans fall way short of what is required. the ca re care minister laid out the plans of the house of commons. care minister laid out the plans of the house of commons. time and time again we have heard about the challenges in this house. the high turnover in the workforce, the lottery of how people pay for it. the unsustainable local markets. the varying quality and safety of care. the low uptake of technology. the carers who are notjust unpaid but underappreciated and the complexity of the system for everyone involved. i am sure honourable members have their own challenges that they will add to the list. make no mistake, these are complex issues. so complex that successive governments over decades have decided to duck them rather than deal with them. but this government is determined to get it right. after all, you cannot be serious about levelling up unless you are serious about social care. in september we took a vital first step on the route to fixing this generational problem. when the prime minister, the chancellor and the secretary of state announced our new health and care levy. and that focus on how we must pay for it is absolutely right. but we were clear then and we are clear now that there is much more and much else we need to do. this white paper contains more detail on what we plan to do over liz kendall is the shadow minister for social care. thank you very much for talking to us. you say the government is a go far enough. how far would you go and how much would you spend? iltlul’e’d far enough. how far would you go and how much would you spend?— how much would you spend? we'd be -auttin in how much would you spend? we'd be putting in place _ how much would you spend? we'd be putting in place the — how much would you spend? we'd be putting in place the real— how much would you spend? we'd be putting in place the real reforms - how much would you spend? we'd be putting in place the real reforms we | putting in place the real reforms we need to improve the lives of older and disabled people and their families in this country. we have to spend every pound of taxpayers money wisely. and what we would've liked to a scene is a proposal that really makes sure we have the staff we need to help older and disabled people, that has joined up teams between the nhs and social care to really focus on preventing people from seeing their conditions get worse and ending up in expensive hospital services when they don't need to. and i think that's the real problem with what the government announced. it wasn't a radical enough reform with a change in services that we need to keep people at home. because that's better for them and need to keep people at home. because that's betterfor them and it's better for the taxpayer to. haifa better for the taxpayer to. how much, if better for the taxpayer to. how much. if you — better for the taxpayer to. how much, if you did _ better for the taxpayer to. how much, if you did that, - better for the taxpayer to. how much, if you did that, how much would that cost just much, if you did that, how much would that costjust out of interest? would that cost 'ust out of interesnh would that cost 'ust out of interest? ~ . ., , would that cost 'ust out of interest? ~ . , ., interest? we are asking people to -a an interest? we are asking people to pay any more _ interest? we are asking people to pay any more money, _ interest? we are asking people to pay any more money, that's - interest? we are asking people to pay any more money, that's what| interest? we are asking people to i pay any more money, that's what the governments doing. what we are saying they've got to use that money wisely. i think the problem with what the minister announced today it was, it doesn't deal with the staff shortages, it doesn't bring health and care staff together in one team and care staff together in one team and it doesn't support the families who are doing so much to care for their loved ones. and if they see their loved ones. and if they see their own health suffer and they can't look after their loved ones, it cost us even more. so it's about spending that money better in a way that gives people at home and keeps them out of more expensive hospital and residential care for as long as possible. there is nothing really about that. possible. there is nothing really about that-— possible. there is nothing really about that. . ., ., about that. can i ask you about the family carers? _ about that. can i ask you about the family carers? you _ about that. can i ask you about the family carers? you did _ about that. can i ask you about the family carers? you did say - about that. can i ask you about the family carers? you did say in - about that. can i ask you about the family carers? you did say in the i family carers? you did say in the comment that the government support for unplayed singing ?? transmit ?? capnext unpaid family cares actually amounts to an extra £1 60 a year, is that what you say it is?— to an extra £1 60 a year, is that what you say it is? yes. when you look in the — what you say it is? yes. when you look in the white _ what you say it is? yes. when you look in the white paper— what you say it is? yes. when you look in the white paper it - what you say it is? yes. when you look in the white paper it says - look in the white paper it says that there is £55,000,000 additional support for unpaid family carers. 11,000,000 unpaid carers in england. over three years that allows you £1 60. �* , , . ., ,~ 60. it's 'ust terrific. let me ask ou, 60. it'sjust terrific. let me ask you. what _ 60. it'sjust terrific. let me ask you. what do — 60. it'sjust terrific. let me ask you. what do you _ 60. it'sjust terrific. let me ask you, what do you think- 60. it'sjust terrific. let me ask you, what do you think unpaid l you, what do you think unpaid carers, what extras should they be paid per year? obviously not £1 60. what... no, that's not about money going into a payment. they are saying that money is going to pay the price of the people of missile. if i was in government now is the care minister i would look to the extra money going into the system and said, let's look at how we spend that in the best way. if you want to keep people in their own homes, which we do, you will help their families, you will get a staff together as well as the technology and other support. and they have a got a plan for that. i don't know why the government keeps looking at the nhs workforce and the social network force separately. i don't know why they are not investing that money to keep people at home now. that's can help the nhs as well as older and disabled people. the first because you ask is not how much more you can span but how much more wisely you can spend that money. and that's what were focused on. ok. final question about this gathering that was held on downing street on december the 18th last year, just before christmas, england was in tears recover today the prime minister said that all guidance was followed. do you believe him? i think if the guidance was being followed that wouldn't have happened in the first place. i mean, the government has a terrible track record on this. we all remember one rule for the country and a different rule for the country and a different rule for the conservatives. i think that really sticks in people. so... when he says all covid guidance was followed are you saying that he's lying? he followed are you saying that he's l in. ? , followed are you saying that he's l in.? , ., followed are you saying that he's lint? ., ., lying? he says that all the time. and we know — lying? he says that all the time. and we know that _ lying? he says that all the time. and we know that that's - lying? he says that all the time. and we know that that's not - lying? he says that all the time. | and we know that that's not true. why was there that gathering? many people had to go without meeting up with their friends and family over christmas, i like them to be completely open and transparent about that. and if you are far more details about what really happened i'm sure you and the rest of your colleagues will be asking questions of conservative mps and ministers of the coming 24 hours.— the coming 24 hours. thank you. shadow care _ the coming 24 hours. thank you. shadow care minister. _ the winner of the turner prize 2021 is being announced this evening at coventry cathedral. for the first time, the nominees are made up of collectives which the organisers say have helped to "inspire social change through art". let's cross to coventry cathedral and our media and arts correspondent david sillito. hi david. well the great and good at the art world — hi david. well the great and good at the art world are _ hi david. well the great and good at the art world are all _ hi david. well the great and good at the art world are all gathering - hi david. well the great and good at the art world are all gathering herel the art world are all gathering here at covena ntee the art world are all gathering here at covenantee can theatre all the announced tonight of turner prize. of announced tonight of turner prize. of course a prize associated with famous names over the years, hers, george, to share their own and he went names are talking about because all the nominees are collectives. to explain more onjoined now by the creative director of where the turner exhibition is taking place. what does this mean, collectives? there are five collectives, are there? , ., there are five collectives, are there? , . �* ., there? they are. brilliant collectives. _ there? they are. brilliant collectives. so _ there? they are. brilliant collectives. so groups i there? they are. brilliant collectives. so groups of| there? they are. brilliant - collectives. so groups of artists that work together. _ collectives. so groups of artists that work together. why - collectives. so groups of artists that work together. why no - that work together. why no individual artist ishea? iuntil]! that work together. why no individual artist ishea? will talk abut about _ individual artist ishea? will talk abut about that _ individual artist ishea? will talk abut about that this _ individual artist ishea? will talk abut about that this evening. i individual artist ishea? will talk i abut about that this evening. what they were — abut about that this evening. what they were looking for is something that really— they were looking for is something that really shouts it about context that really shouts it about context that we _ that really shouts it about context that we find ourselves nationally. i think— that we find ourselves nationally. i think over— that we find ourselves nationally. i think over the last 18 months we've really— think over the last 18 months we've really seen — think over the last 18 months we've really seen as collective coming to gather— really seen as collective coming to gather as — really seen as collective coming to gather as a — really seen as collective coming to gather as a caring nation or each other~ _ gather as a caring nation or each other~ and — gather as a caring nation or each other. and this is really reflected in all— other. and this is really reflected in all the — other. and this is really reflected in all the collectives that have been — in all the collectives that have been nominated.— been nominated. let's talk specifically _ been nominated. let's talk specifically about - been nominated. let's talk specifically about the - been nominated. let's talk specifically about the arts. | been nominated. let's talk- specifically about the arts. one of the groups, a neuro— digest virgin collectives from haste doing at hastings. what this is project art works. 50 hastings. what this is pro'ect art works. , hastings. what this is pro'ect art works, , ., hastings. what this is pro'ect art works. ., works. so is a fantastical collection _ works. so is a fantastical collection for _ works. so is a fantastical collection for work - works. so is a fantastical collection for work with i works. so is a fantastical - collection for work with people who have diverse needs. they work in an enabling _ have diverse needs. they work in an enabling way to support artist to carry— enabling way to support artist to carry out — enabling way to support artist to carry out their practice whether that be — carry out their practice whether that be creating work or exhibiting or selling — that be creating work or exhibiting or selling. it's absolutely an amazing _ or selling. it's absolutely an amazing collective.- or selling. it's absolutely an amazing collective. there is one also about _ amazing collective. there is one also about cooking, _ amazing collective. there is one also about cooking, isn't - amazing collective. there is one also about cooking, isn't there? j also about cooking, isn't there? it's cooking sections. this is about salmon farming and climate. yes cookin: salmon farming and climate. yes cooking sections. so have been ill on an— cooking sections. so have been ill on an eight— cooking sections. so have been ill on an eight year project. that's really— on an eight year project. that's really looking at how we eat and what _ really looking at how we eat and what we — really looking at how we eat and what we eat impacts the environment. the project _ what we eat impacts the environment. the project that they've created for is about _ the project that they've created for is about salmon farming and the damage — is about salmon farming and the damage that does to wildlife. it's a really— damage that does to wildlife. it's a really interesting piece, and really awareness — really interesting piece, and really awareness raising piece. let�*s really interesting piece, and really awareness raising piece. let's array collective go _ awareness raising piece. let's array collective go to _ awareness raising piece. let's array collective go to northern _ awareness raising piece. let's array collective go to northern ireland - collective go to northern ireland now,, this is completely different. this is about street protests, banners, songs, jokes. again, another group of artists.- banners, songs, jokes. again, another group of artists. what is this about? _ another group of artists. what is this about? array _ another group of artists. what is this about? array collective - another group of artists. what is this about? array collective are l this about? array collective are really _ this about? array collective are really fun — this about? array collective are really fun and collective. they performative base and they've got a show _ performative base and they've got a show that _ performative base and they've got a show that can lead that commemorates the petitioner, got of two parts. one part — the petitioner, got of two parts. one part that is of religious ceremony in another part that is part of— ceremony in another part that is part of about license. you ceremony in another part that is part of about license.— ceremony in another part that is part of about license. you got a pot built in your — part of about license. you got a pot built in your gallery, _ part of about license. you got a pot built in your gallery, haven't - part of about license. you got a pot built in your gallery, haven't you? | built in your gallery, haven't you? array collective we do, thank you. that is— array collective we do, thank you. that is always with us a performance, video work and got a much _ performance, video work and got a much more — performance, video work and got a much more energised vibe about it. it's much more energised vibe about it. it's all— much more energised vibe about it. it's all very— much more energised vibe about it. it's all very political, is in a? what is the message of having a pub in your gallery? i what is the message of having a pub in your gallery?— in your gallery? i think the message about coming _ in your gallery? i think the message about coming together. _ in your gallery? i think the message about coming together. it's - in your gallery? i think the message about coming together. it's where i about coming together. it's where eo - le about coming together. it's where people human _ about coming together. it's where people human stories. _ about coming together. it's where people human stories. we - about coming together. it's where people human stories. we are - about coming together. it's where i people human stories. we are going to leave david and his guest at coventry cathedral. would you will hear the news two news announced life. let's bring you the weather. hello, the winds are turning back onto the northwest again which is why it's turning colder. tomorrow is likely to be colder day than today. but many places will be dry and quite sunny. showers overnight even some of these down the eastern coast is of these down the eastern coast is of england and scotland could be wintry. snow to lower levels even across scotland and northern ireland heading to wales in the southwest. some of these wintry. where we keep the shower tonight this is where we are more likely to have icy conditions into tomorrow morning. tomorrow morning will start much court did not colder than this morning for the widespread process temperatures and scotland for the won't be long before we see the back of the showers in southwest wales and england for the should turn dryer in scotland but easton anglia. it of the areas quite sunny except for northern ireland where we got more clout coming in quite quickly and that will arrive into western scotland during the afternoon. i had a bet in the cold air despite the sunshine temperatures could be no higher than four orfive. today at six: stepping up the vaccine booster campaign across the uk, with firefighters and soldiers among those called to help out. this was the scene at a centre in llangefni, and welsh ministers admit the booster programme will put the nhs under immense pressure. we recognise that the workforce is absolutely exhausted, which is why we are really making sure that the net is really cast much wider this time to make sure that we can ask those volunteers to come back in. as preparations for christmas go ahead, some doctors say it's best to avoid large gatherings — but ministers say it's the individual�*s responsibility. we've all got a role to play in this, it is a national mission what we've set out in vaccinations, we can all play a role. we'll have more on the situation here in wales, and across the uk. also on the programme...

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