hello and welcome to our look ahead to what the papers will be bringing us tomorrow. with me are our guestsjoining me tonight arejournalist and times radio presenter jenny kleeman, and martin lipton, chief sports reporter at the sun. hello to you both. a quick look through ourfront pages. the daily telegraph tomorrow looks at coronavirus vaccines, reporting the astrazeneca jab may give longer lasting immunity than other vaccines. the guardian reports of treasury frustration at number ten's handling of major political decisions following a serious of botched announcements. trouble at the top — the i says a number ten spokesperson has insisted the prime minister is not unwell and he has not lost his grip. meanwhile, the metro's front page has the news of a couple found stabbed to death in their home, allegedly due to a dispute over parking. and the ft reports that the former prime minister, david cameron, lobbied a conservative on the board lloyds banking group who he'd given a title to, to reverse a decision to cut ties with the ailing greensill capital. that was a quick look through some of ourfront pages. let us begin our chat. jenny, i wonder if you could kick us off. it's the first story, astrazeneca may have actually longer per section then bought the. this may have actually longer per section then bought the.— then bought the. this is according to the chief _ then bought the. this is according to the chief executive. _ then bought the. this is according to the chief executive. he - then bought the. this is according to the chief executive. he would l then bought the. this is according i to the chief executive. he would say that, but apparently this is backed up that, but apparently this is backed up by that, but apparently this is backed up by quite a few experts. this is all about trying to unpack the reason why we aren't seeing the same spike in cases and hospitalizations that our neighbours in europe have been seeing. we've had high levels of infection for quite a long time, but we haven't seen the recentjump that our neighbours have, and we are on the same spike and hospitalizations. the question is, is it do to how he unlocked or how we vaccinated. we know that in france, emmanuel macron had some very disparaging things to say. there were lots of fears about astrazeneca, meaning it wasn't given out in the same way. the chief executive has suggested that perhaps the reason why we have not gone the same way as our european neighbours, may be because of the fact we opted to max vaccinate with the astrazeneca vaccine. it must be said that france, who is reaching high levels of infection, has 30,000 infections at the moment. it's still quite a lot lower than the level of infection we've had in this country for quite a long time. what we're not seeing is the spike that europe is seeing. it might be down to the vaccine. a is seeing. it might be down to the vaccine.- quite _ is seeing. it might be down to the| vaccine.- quite interesting vaccine. martin? quite interesting that we have _ vaccine. martin? quite interesting that we have the _ vaccine. martin? quite interesting that we have the claims _ vaccine. martin? quite interesting that we have the claims backed i vaccine. martin? quite interestingi that we have the claims backed up vaccine. martin? quite interesting i that we have the claims backed up by various_ that we have the claims backed up by various scientists. the —— best responses _ various scientists. the —— best responses seem to come if you get a first dose _ responses seem to come if you get a first dose of— responses seem to come if you get a first dose of the astrazeneca vaccine — first dose of the astrazeneca vaccine followed by pfizer. anything that's _ vaccine followed by pfizer. anything that's long—term good for me is... they're _ that's long—term good for me is... they're playing to my audience here. ithink— they're playing to my audience here. i think it's _ they're playing to my audience here. i think it's interesting that there is still— i think it's interesting that there is still this — i think it's interesting that there is still this game being played ahout— is still this game being played about which was the better vaccine, and nobody— about which was the better vaccine, and nobody knew when they were developing the vaccine which one would _ developing the vaccine which one would work best. would they all work the same? _ would work best. would they all work the same? would somebody not as a fish of? _ the same? would somebody not as a fish of? -- _ the same? would somebody not as a fish of? —— efficient. potentially, the astrazeneca impact on the elderly— the astrazeneca impact on the elderly population might be beneficial, which will be good for the older— beneficial, which will be good for the older people in this country with a — the older people in this country with a very, very high take—up of the vaccine _ with a very, very high take-up of the vaccine-— with a very, very high take-up of the vaccine. before we move on, i would like — the vaccine. before we move on, i would like to _ the vaccine. before we move on, i would like to ask _ the vaccine. before we move on, i would like to ask the _ the vaccine. before we move on, i would like to ask the both - the vaccine. before we move on, i would like to ask the both of- the vaccine. before we move on, i would like to ask the both of you, | the vaccine. before we move on, i | would like to ask the both of you, i don't know if you followed the news this evening. if possible, work from home, and scotland and northern ireland. there was a warning from nicola sturgeon about taking care into winter. as far as england goes, they say we need to take the lateral flow tests. what you're feeling as to how things will unfold? it does look as though it's helping, but we have those cold winter months to come. , ., ., �* ~ ., . come. yes, and we don't know which direction this — come. yes, and we don't know which direction this is _ come. yes, and we don't know which direction this is going. _ come. yes, and we don't know which direction this is going. whether - direction this is going. whether we've managed to dodge it. my feeling in terms of people's behaviour is the sort of people who are choosing to wear masks are probably the sort of people who would take a lateral flow tests before going to a christmas party or going to a crowded place. i think people have decided how they are going to take personal responsibility for their behaviour during this pandemic. this is enough strong government messaging to suggest that people should take any different action now. i don't think people are going to change their behaviour until there is a. d0 people are going to change their behaviour until there is a. do you think that's _ behaviour until there is a. do you think that's where _ behaviour until there is a. do you think that's where it _ behaviour until there is a. do you think that's where it is, _ behaviour until there is a. do you think that's where it is, the - behaviour until there is a. do you think that's where it is, the lack i think that's where it is, the lack of messaging coming from the government? if of messaging coming from the government?— of messaging coming from the government? if you look at the icture government? if you look at the picture on _ government? if you look at the picture on the _ government? if you look at the picture on the front _ government? if you look at the picture on the front of- picture on the front of the telegraph, it's a very sombre scene. it's telegraph, it's a very sombre scene. it's a _ telegraph, it's a very sombre scene. it's a memorial service for sir david — it's a memorial service for sir david amess. none of the prime ministers — david amess. none of the prime ministers are masks, which is a bit of a surprise — ministers are masks, which is a bit of a surprise we've been told politicians or should be leading the way. i find it worrying that i am the minority who is wearing _ worrying that i am the minority who is wearing a — worrying that i am the minority who is wearing a mask when i should be in the _ is wearing a mask when i should be in the majority. likewise, i've lost count— in the majority. likewise, i've lost count of— in the majority. likewise, i've lost count of the — in the majority. likewise, i've lost count of the number of lateral flow tests _ count of the number of lateral flow tests and _ count of the number of lateral flow tests and pcr tests i've taken over the last _ tests and pcr tests i've taken over the last few months since i started travelling — the last few months since i started travelling again, which i did when i went— travelling again, which i did when i went to _ travelling again, which i did when i went to the — travelling again, which i did when i went to the tokyo olympics. i've done _ went to the tokyo olympics. i've done an— went to the tokyo olympics. i've done an awful lot of flying, which at one _ done an awful lot of flying, which at one point was a test every other day. at one point was a test every other dav i'm _ at one point was a test every other dav i'm still— at one point was a test every other day. i'm still taking them extremely regularlv _ day. i'm still taking them extremely regularly. when i go out to any nreeting. i_ regularly. when i go out to any meeting, i think it'sjust right for meeting, i think it'sjust right for me to _ meeting, i think it'sjust right for me to look— meeting, i think it'sjust right for me to look after the potential. clearly. — me to look after the potential. clearly, not everybody takes that view _ clearly, not everybody takes that view. ~ �* ., ., , view. we're going to stay with the tele . ra - h view. we're going to stay with the telegraph and _ view. we're going to stay with the telegraph and the _ view. we're going to stay with the telegraph and the cbi _ view. we're going to stay with the telegraph and the cbi speech, - view. we're going to stay with the | telegraph and the cbi speech, the broken rambling speech by the prime minister, still making headlines. the pm is not losing his grip, says downing street. jenny? it’s the pm is not losing his grip, says downing street. jenny? it's amazing downin: downing street. jenny? it's amazing downing street _ downing street. jenny? it's amazing downing street has _ downing street. jenny? it's amazing downing street has had _ downing street. jenny? it's amazing downing street has had to _ downing street. jenny? it's amazing downing street has had to respond i downing street. jenny? it's amazing l downing street has had to respond to this, but i guess it's not that surprising. downing street says it's an assumption, calling for the prime minister's resignation. this is because the prime minister made a speech to the cvi which was like a not very good after dinner speech rambling, 20 seconds when he asked people to forgive him because he forgot his place, and atjokes about peppa pig. dinner is a since this is a prime minister who is losing his grip —— this is a sense. also things like the integrated rail plan, the announcement last week which went down very badly. many parts of the country. borisjohnson has always just been someone who can bumble his way through in an amiable way, but yesterday, it seems that people's patients ran out.— patients ran out. martin, there's alwa s patients ran out. martin, there's always the _ patients ran out. martin, there's always the cartoon _ patients ran out. martin, there's always the cartoon on _ patients ran out. martin, there's always the cartoon on the - patients ran out. martin, there's always the cartoon on the front. always the cartoon on the front there. also, turning to the front of there. also, turning to the front of the i, because the same story. this toes the i, because the same story. this aoes into the i, because the same story. this goes into what _ the i, because the same story. this goes into what will _ the i, because the same story. this goes into what will be known as the peppa _ goes into what will be known as the peppa pig _ goes into what will be known as the peppa pig fiasco speech, i'm afraid. one savs _ peppa pig fiasco speech, i'm afraid. one says boris has made a u—turn. he's_ one says boris has made a u—turn. he's going — one says boris has made a u—turn. he's going to — one says boris has made a u—turn. he's going to make a thomas the tank engine _ he's going to make a thomas the tank engine speech. sums up the sense of bizarre _ engine speech. sums up the sense of bizarre. when you've got someone saving _ bizarre. when you've got someone saving hes— bizarre. when you've got someone saying he's not lost it, whether you stop kicking — saying he's not lost it, whether you stop kicking your cat, questions you don't _ stop kicking your cat, questions you don't want — stop kicking your cat, questions you don't want to be asked. i'm surprised _ don't want to be asked. i'm surprised he's not unwell. but there is a warning — surprised he's not unwell. but there is a warning between the pm... most agreed by the owen patterson mess _ most agreed by the owen patterson mess. some mps are... last—minute approach — mess. some mps are... last—minute approach to— mess. some mps are... last—minute approach to everything. it doesn't sound _ approach to everything. it doesn't sound or— approach to everything. it doesn't sound or feel... approach to everything. it doesn't sound orfeel... i approach to everything. it doesn't sound or feel... i don't think anyone — sound or feel... i don't think anyone can _ sound or feel... i don't think anyone can say things have gone well _ anyone can say things have gone well the — anyone can say things have gone well. the alternative... governments lose them, _ well. the alternative... governments lose them, and they lose them when they lose _ lose them, and they lose them when they lose control. we remember the back they lose control. we remember the hack to _ they lose control. we remember the back to basics campaign, and it led to 13 _ back to basics campaign, and it led to 13 years— back to basics campaign, and it led to 13 years of labour government. the ground — to 13 years of labour government. the ground government ended with quite heavily grip on wire that was going _ quite heavily grip on wire that was going in— quite heavily grip on wire that was going in those last two years. and it does— going in those last two years. and it does appear at the moment to be a sort of— it does appear at the moment to be a sort of sense — it does appear at the moment to be a sort of sense of decay and fumbling at number— sort of sense of decay and fumbling at numberten. sort of sense of decay and fumbling at number ten.— sort of sense of decay and fumbling at number ten. ., �* ,., ., at number ten. you've both mentioned some of the _ at number ten. you've both mentioned some of the stories _ at number ten. you've both mentioned some of the stories - _ at number ten. you've both mentioned some of the stories - the _ at number ten. you've both mentioned some of the stories - the backlash - some of the stories — the backlash of social care, we've had sleaze, we've had backpacking on hs to — but his behaviour yesterday, his demeanour, he genuinely looked confused. �* �* , ., , ., confused. and he didn't usually do his boris confused. and he didn't usually do his itoris the _ confused. and he didn't usually do his boris the smooth _ confused. and he didn't usually do l his boris the smooth entertainment, which was to make a joke. it was uncomfortable to watch that 22nd of him apologising and saying forgive me. he found his place, butjust started off from where he should have been. he didn't seem to acknowledge what had happened. he looked like somebody who was uncomfortable, not the one thing borisjohnson is uncomfortable, not the one thing boris johnson is famous for, uncomfortable, not the one thing borisjohnson is famous for, a particular kind of warmth of being fun. �* , ., ., fun. let's turn to the front page of the guardian. _ fun. let's turn to the front page of the guardian. is _ fun. let's turn to the front page of the guardian. is it _ fun. let's turn to the front page of the guardian. is it more _ fun. let's turn to the front page of the guardian. is it more of - fun. let's turn to the front page of the guardian. is it more of the - the guardian. is it more of the scene or something slightly different?— scene or something slightly different? �*, , , ., different? it's probably more damaging and _ different? it's probably more damaging and more - different? it's probably more i damaging and more dangerous. if you had a briefing from number 11 about— if you had a briefing from number 11 about numberten, if you had a briefing from number 11 about number ten, these are the dangers — about number ten, these are the dangers. this takes us back to all the crises — dangers. this takes us back to all the crises that undermined a lot of the crises that undermined a lot of the second — the crises that undermined a lot of the second half of the new labour project _ the second half of the new labour project. that is not a good sign. this— project. that is not a good sign. this is— project. that is not a good sign. this is an — project. that is not a good sign. this is an argument that there needs to he _ this is an argument that there needs to be someone to get hold and shake up to be someone to get hold and shake up the _ to be someone to get hold and shake up the downing street operation. rishi _ up the downing street operation. rishi sunak's department says it's understand to be concerned about the prime _ understand to be concerned about the prime minister's tendency to overpromise. i think it's fair to say in — overpromise. i think it's fair to say in the _ overpromise. i think it's fair to say in the end, a source told the guardian— say in the end, a source told the guardian what happens with a £96 billion— guardian what happens with a £96 billion amount but. somebody else said they— billion amount but. somebody else said they weren't sure —— announcement. you wouldn't expect these sort _ announcement. you wouldn't expect these sort of comments in the midst of a government that was feeling comfortable about where things were going _ comfortable about where things were going this— comfortable about where things were going. this happens when there's a crisis _ going. this happens when there's a crisis mode — going. this happens when there's a crisis mode and a sense of drift, there's— crisis mode and a sense of drift, there's a — crisis mode and a sense of drift, there's a sense that may be the tectonic— there's a sense that may be the tectonic plates are moving and something has to happen. one of the prime _ something has to happen. one of the prime beneficiaries, would be the... many— prime beneficiaries, would be the... many people would allow imagine he would _ many people would allow imagine he would he _ many people would allow imagine he would be the most likely choice of the next _ would be the most likely choice of the next conservative prime minister~ _ the next conservative prime minister. , , , ., the next conservative prime minister, , , ., ., minister. jenny, you were nodding there. minister. jenny, you were nodding there- there _ minister. jenny, you were nodding there. there have _ minister. jenny, you were nodding there. there have been _ minister. jenny, you were nodding there. there have been a - minister. jenny, you were nodding there. there have been a couple l minister. jenny, you were nodding| there. there have been a couple of stories highlighting some tensions between number ten and ii. this stories highlighting some tensions between number ten and 11. this is nothin: between number ten and 11. this is nothing new- _ between number ten and 11. this is nothing new. this _ between number ten and 11. this is nothing new. this is _ between number ten and 11. this is nothing new. this is a _ between number ten and 11. this is nothing new. this is a briefing - nothing new. this is a briefing from number 11, nothing new. this is a briefing from number11, and i think nothing new. this is a briefing from number 11, and i think it's extraordinary, the idea that this announcement of the integrated rail plan that could have been time to better, it would have been better received at a time. it's going to be badly received at any time that this £96 billion of investment couldn't have been spun as a positive has something from the north or the people who moved home to make wave for a track never built. what is beyond any doubt is in on middle of the election cycle, the government needs to make real strides to show they can make good on their manifesto promises, and at the moment, they'rejust manifesto promises, and at the moment, they're just teetering from one crisis to

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