make more deliveries in the uk? would it undermine plans to upscale british workers? it's ronaldo to the rescue once again. the manchester united striker caps off another astonishing champions league come back, this time to beat atalanta and it eases the pressure on the united manager. good morning. a cold start to the day today. for many of us it will be drier and sunnier than it was yesterday. having said that some showers coming in on a brisk north—westerly wind with gales on the north sea coastline. all the details later in the programme. it's thursday, the 21st of october. our main story. pressure is growing on the government to re—impose some covid restrictions in england, amid a surge in cases. it comes as the british medical association has accused ministers of being "wilfully negligent." it says measures, such as compulsory face coverings and social distancing should be brought back in now, to protect the nhs as we head into the winter months. here's our political correspondent, jonathan blake. the nhs under pressure. staff and resources always strained as winter approaches, but as covid admissions rise, doctors warn it could become unbearable. the government should be making sure that the public are expected and required to follow simple infection control measures, such as the wearing of masks in indoor public settings, including public transport. now is the time to act. we have enough evidence that this a trajectory heading in the wrong direction. yesterday, the health secretary acknowledged things would get worse. 100,000 cases per day, he warned. and unless people took precautions, ministers would have to act. am i saying that if we don't do our bit, get vaccinated, you know, all of those behavioural changes that we can make, that we are more likely to face restrictions as we head into winter, then i am saying that. i think we have been really clear that we've all got a role to play. for now, the government is holding firm and says it's not yet time to take further measures. moving to the government's plan b in england would make face coverings mandatory in some settings. people would be asked to work from home, and vaccine passports introduced. in northern ireland, face coverings remain a legal requirement in crowded indoor spaces. it's the same for masks in wales, where proof of vaccination is needed in nightclubs and people are asked to work from home. scotland's strategy similarly includes vaccine passports and face masks are required in schools and some other settings. for now, the focus at westminster is urging those not yet vaccinated to come forward, and getting booster jabs to those eligible. but doctors say it's wilfully negligent of ministers not to take further steps, and pressure on the health service is likely only to increase in the coming weeks. jonathan blake, bbc news. let's get more now from our political correspondent chris mason. very good morning to you. we heard from the health secretary very clearly outlining the scale of the problem where we are now, on the other hand we have health leaders and nhs leaders to say now is the time. where have we got in this debate today?— time. where have we got in this debate today? time. where have we got in this debate toda ? , . , , ., , debate today? keep 'abbing and carry on cautiously. _ debate today? keep 'abbing and carry on cautiously. that — debate today? keepjabbing and carry on cautiously. that seemed _ debate today? keepjabbing and carry on cautiously. that seemed to - debate today? keepjabbing and carry on cautiously. that seemed to be - debate today? keepjabbing and carry on cautiously. that seemed to be the | on cautiously. that seemed to be the message yesterday and today. england seem to be an outline as far as restrictions are concerned. now there is glamour from restrictions are concerned. now there is glamourfrom people in the medical world saying something has to happen quickly, otherwise you encounter a worse problem further down the tracks. the chief scientific adviser is ever saying to the prime minister, you have to go quicker than you think you have at any stage of the situation gets worse. the government is clearly reluctant to start slamming down further restrictions, even those restrictions around plan b are at the relatively light end of the spectrum compared with where we are with the lockdown is. i have been looking this morning at the government's covid winter plan which has published five weeks ago when we last had a downing street covid press conference. in that under plan b it talks about facemasks and working from home if you can but the first point is the government making the case that we as individuals should act cautiously. in other words it seems to me an elemental plan b was implemented yesterday with sajid javid saying to us as individuals in england, i ask you to behave responsibly voluntarily and if you do not you will have to impose some rules.- if you do not you will have to impose some rules. thank you very much for that. _ impose some rules. thank you very much for that. we _ impose some rules. thank you very much for that. we will _ impose some rules. thank you very much for that. we will be _ impose some rules. thank you very much for that. we will be speaking | much for that. we will be speaking to the health minister 7:30am. let us know if you have thoughts about the precautions you are taking or not taking. 0n yesterday's breakfast, we told you about a spate of reports of a number of women being injected with drugs on nights out. now the home secretary, priti patel, has asked police for an update, and night time industry leaders have called for an inquiry. more than 150,000 people have signed a petition calling on the government to make searches at bars and clubs mandatory. 0perators across the country have been working with police, local authorities, key stakeholders. their focus has been on safeguarding customers, particularly women at night, and they, without a doubt, have been escalating their front line protocols in terms of searching. the boss of one of the uk s biggest energy companies has called for the price cap — which sets a maximum price that households pay — to be abolished. keith anderson, who's the chief executive of scottish power, said the recent energy crisis had exposed deep flaws in the way the market was structured and serious failures on the part of the regulator, 0fgem. 0fgem said the price cap had helped protect millions of customers from sudden increases in global gas prices. a huge leak of documents seen by bbc news shows how countries are trying to change a crucial scientific report on how to tackle climate change. the leak reveals saudi arabia, japan and australia are among countries asking the un to play down the need to move rapidly away from fossilfuels, raising questions for the cop26 climate summit in november. nearly 1,500 people have been arrested in england and wales in a week—long operation against so—called county lines drug networks. they involve dealers — usually in big urban centres — selling to customers in smaller places using dedicated phone—lines. more than 130 lines were closed last week and almost £2 million of class a drugs seized. police searching for the missing fiance of a murdered american blogger have found what appear to be "human remains" in a park in florida. agents said items belonging to brian laundrie, who is a person of interest in gabby petito's death, were also found during the search. mr laundrie has been missing for more than a month after returning to florida from a joint trip without his partner. a new type of medicine called gene silencing is set to be used to treat a genetic disease that leaves people in crippling pain. acute intermittent porphyria can lead to paralysis and is sometimes fatal. it is hoped gene silencing can also lead to therapies for a range of untreatable diseases. here's our health and science correspondent james gallagher. we remember both how traumatic it was for both me going through it and for you guys as a family watching me go through it. it was that element for me of the total pain and the sickness and eventually the paralysis and the seizures. sisters liz and sue have lived in pain that few can imagine. they both have the genetic disease acute intermittent porphyria. potent opioid painkillers were a feature of their daily life and liz was paralysed for two years. one of the times they had to transfer me from one hospital to another because i wasn't breathing very well at all and i needed intensive care and mum was following behind in her car, following the ambulance. as soon as the blue lights went on, shejust crumbled. i lost it all, it felt overnight. i lost myjob, my company car, lost everything i'd been working hard towards and in a new relationship not knowing whether my partner would stay with me. he did. we're married. we've got a little girl now. yeah, it was scary. gene silencing therapies get to the root cause of liz and sue's genetic disease rather than just managing their pain. they were part of trials here at king's college hospital, which showed the drug cut severe symptoms by 75%. so to find a drug that really does transform people's lives is extraordinary. the first time i've seen it really in my career as a doctor. if we can control genes and switch them off when you want to and switch them on when we want to then almost anything is possible in terms of treating conditions, including alzheimer's and cancer and everything else. so you've been on the drug for a while now. what kind of difference is it been making? the difference is astronomical. we're not in pain any more and not feeling sick. and able to predict life, not having to wait for attacks to happen, which means you're generally more dependable, you're not dependent on opiate—based pain relief and that leads to things like being able to succeed in a job. and sue? i think being so much - stronger, not being in pain, being able to sleep. just being able to plan life a little bit, being able - to be a mother better, - being able to be a wife better and just live life. liz and sue are some of the first people to benefit from gene silencing medicines but they won't be the last. james gallagher, bbc news. now the weather with carol. morning. good morning, both. good morning to you. yesterday there were reports of tornadoes, one in widnes and unconfirmed reports of ones in fareham, west sussex and another potentially in falmouth. today we do have a chilly winter. we are hanging on to slightly higher temperatures at the moment in the south which will not last. we have a weather front sinking southwards. it will turn colder behind. a lot of dry weather and sunshine. 0n turn colder behind. a lot of dry weather and sunshine. on this brisk wind we are looking at a few showers. some of them will be wintry on higher ground. we are looking at gales down the north sea coastline. with spring tides we could see overtopping on the north sea coastline and in 0rkney. at on the wind—chill it will feel colder, especially on the north—east coastline. as we head on through the evening and overnight we continue with some clear skies. it was still be windy and we still have the showers packing in from the west, wintry on higher ground. it would be frosty. locally apache frost in the east. for most of us it will not be because of bt windy. —— a patchy frost. still showers coming in from the west. a bit more cloud but not as windy with highs of 1a. not as cold. thank you. pleasure. the government is coming under pressure to take action on covid, with the uk's number of new daily cases approaching 50,000. but the health secretary sajid javid has said there are no plans — for the moment — to bring back restrictions in england. instead he said the public should take up their vaccines and, where necessary, booster jabs. the gp dr sarahjarvisjoins us now. sarah, good to see this morning. what did you make of work sajid javid the health secretary, had to say? javid the health secretary, had to sa ? ., ,., , ., ., , say? one of the points he made was we have not — say? one of the points he made was we have not broken _ say? one of the points he made was we have not broken the _ say? one of the points he made was we have not broken the link- say? one of the points he made was| we have not broken the link between infections and deaths but we have definitely weakened it. there he is right. the last time we had this level of infection was in mid—january. at that stage we had 39,000 people in hospital and about 28,500 deaths and 28,500 people admitted in the previous week. now those figures are a fraction of that stop the number of deaths is up 21% on a week ago. in that respect we are in a much better position. the trends are really worrying. we are seeing figures going up, up to one in 60 people infected in england and one in 45 people infected in wales in the week up to the 9th of october. from my perspective there 0ctober. from my perspective there are real concerns we should be thinking about doing things that do not affect the economy. if you look at what other countries are doing, we are way behind. like at what other countries are doing, we are way behind.— at what other countries are doing, we are way behind. like what? what should we be — we are way behind. like what? what should we be doing? _ we are way behind. like what? what should we be doing? in _ we are way behind. like what? what should we be doing? in other - should we be doing? in other countries. — should we be doing? in other countries, i— should we be doing? in other countries, i have _ should we be doing? in other countries, i have a _ should we be doing? in other countries, i have a lot - should we be doing? in other countries, i have a lot of - countries, i have a lot of colleagues who work in spain and portugal, you need to wear a face covering and nobody thinks twice about it when nobody argues about civil liberties. they know it is there to protect other people. you need to show evidence of double vaccination or a negative lateral flow test to get into restaurant or a 15,000 person venue. also a lot more people working from home than we do, it is notjust protecting people working from home, if public transport is less busy you are going to protect the people who cannot work from home as well.- to protect the people who cannot work from home as well. there has been some — work from home as well. there has been some confusion _ work from home as well. there has been some confusion and _ work from home as well. there has been some confusion and lots - work from home as well. there has been some confusion and lots of. been some confusion and lots of reports about people now who are clinically vulnerable, who are entitled to the jab and then the cohort entitled to a boosterjab and the availability of this firstly engp's surgeries and an understanding of what is needed. there is definitely a problem with people who need a third vaccine. there is real confusion. those are the most vulnerable, people whose immune systems are most surprised by including those who have had stem cell transplant and have had an organ transplant in the last six months, have had chemotherapy and radiotherapy in their last six months, people with advanced hiv or aids. that is those swords of groups. the issue we have is the national guidance that came out as hospitals should be identifying with those patients when they should have an individual clinical assessment with them and they should identify the best time to give the blister when the immune system is most likely to be leased suppressed. people have understandably gone to gps and they have said, we do not know when you are supposed to be having it because you are supposed to be assessed by a hospital consultant that there is real worry among these groups. whether booster people are concerned, there is much more clarity. what we have seen is 1.8 million invitations going out this week people to book by the national booking system. the advice now is if you have not heard within a week of the six month anniversary of your second vaccine then you should go onto the national booking system or ring 119 to book an appointment. there there is much more availability. we appointment. there there is much more availability.— more availability. we recommend eo - le more availability. we recommend --eole do more availability. we recommend people do that — more availability. we recommend people do that. always _ more availability. we recommend people do that. always good - more availability. we recommend i people do that. always good talking to you. always thanking you taking the time. let's take a look at today's papers. many of today's papers lead on the health secretary's warning that if not enough people get vaccinated, it is more likely that covid restrictions will be reintroduced in england. "have your boosterjab to keep your freedoms" is the headline in the telegraph. the daily mirror says the "fight" is "not over" and reports that cases could reach 100,000 a day. but the paper says the government is "dragging its feet" over introducing its winter "plan b". the times says sajid javid implied people need to "get serious about face masks" in what it described as "a downbeat downing street briefing warning of darker months and new variants ahead." there's also a picture of sarah buckle on the front page, who is one of the victims of a needle attack who we will be speaking to just after 8 o'clock. and one of the most read stories on the bbc news website is about the eurovision song contest. it says the team behind the singer dua lipa will choose the uk's entrant for the 2022 contest, after last year's entry failed to score a single point. we'll be discussing this with a eurovision superfan just before 8 o'clock. a little bit of viking news for you on the inside pages in the daily telegraph. scientists have dated the first known crossing of the atlantic by the vikings. it was known for some time vikings got there before christopher columbus did. it turns out it is 471 before. they were there way ahead. they have been analysing bits of wood the vikings were known and have come up with the new data to say they were far, far ahead. why, you are asking me? why did the vikings want to cross the atlantic? is this like the why did the chicken cross the road joke? why did the vikings cross the water? why did the vikings cross the water? why did the vikings cross the atlantic on the epic voyage? the answer is, they were looking forward. apparently they were looking forward timber. there were no trees. where? in norway? they were looking for different varieties of trees grow stronger trees. you know what the vikings are all about. we've been following the story of andy, mike and tim on breakfast. they're the three dads doing an epic charity walk in memory of their daughters, who all took their own lives. it isa it is a very inspiring story. a lot of smiles and happiness along the way and memories of their loved ones. on saturday, they'll finish their 300—mile trek. but along the way, they've been meeting people who've offered support, and shared their own experiences too. alison freeman reports. we lost our sonjamie two years ago. just over two years ago to suicide. how old was he? he was 17. they'd started out as three dads walking. following on from my daughter, sinead, dying by suicide on 14th of july, 2021, i hit a very low point. and i saw you three guys on bbc breakfast and you showed that there is hope. along the way they have been joined by so many other people with very personal stories to tell. my daughter died in march this year, having taken her own life. she was aged 36. my father killed himself a month after i got married and my- grandad also committed suicide. in 2019, i lost my daughter, tasha's little sister, katrina, and last year we lost my husband, tasha's stepfather, damien. i recently lost my daughter to suicide and ijust need to understand why and there's loads of unanswered questions. i'm a member of the same club. i lost a daughter, nikki, - when she was 19, back in 1987. tim, andy and mike all lost their daughters to suicide. united by their loss, they decided they wanted to stop otherfamilies going through the same thing. so they started walking the 300 miles between their homes in cumbria, greater manchester and norfolk to raise awareness of and money for the help that's out there. it's a very powerfuljourney. people are reaching out, people are meeting us while we're walking. you know, with incredible stories about mental health and suicide. as well as meeting new people, other friends have come along to support them, like mark and his son zac. why are we doing this today, zac? three reasons. 0ne because we want to help support them. and helped by the fact that mike is a good friend of dad's, and two to raise money for papyrus, and three simply because we love walking. the dads have managed to stay on track, despite the odd unexpected locked gate. three dads walking, stopped. there is a route about that way a mile or there is a shorter route that way but it's quite boggy this time of year. andy, having a few problems with his feet. make it a bit more comfortable for you. and of course the great british weather. walking across the muddy fields of lincolnshire on day 11. 22 miles to go today. they seem to be the muddiest fields ever. along the way the aim has stayed the same. well done, chaps. making it easier to talk about suicide. we had a really powerful conversation with a lady yesterday. she'd seen us on television. it's the first time she'd been able to sit down with her teenage children and talk about suicide. she had a very frank and open conversation with them and we have almost created that mission in homes to do that. i think what you do should be embedded in any school, curriculum, workplace and we need to get that message out. a message to teenagers saying that there is an l option, there's always a way. suicide is a permanent solution to a temporary problem. - i hope very much we can publicise the problem of depression, which has got such a stigma still. people are embarrassed — a bit afraid to talk about it. but these three blokes are reaching out and talking to people, which i have huge respect for. real down—to—earth guys, - who we can relate to, who've been through exactly the same thing, | talked and told their own stories and it's helped a lot, i think. makes you realise it'sjust the depth of humanity and how kind and thoughtful everybody is and the support that's there, if you are willing to accept it and let it wash over you. i think the key thing i'd say is that, you know, not to be on your own really. is to talk to other people. alison freeman, bbc news. we have in very lucky because we have had andy, mike and tim on the sofa. spoken to them a lot. they obviously wanted to raise money and awareness. when they get to meet people, they said the most important thing is to meet people, like that gentleman and young men needed to talk, they are getting people to talk. that is the most important thing. they have got people talking. i think that film really brought it home. certainly meeting them did. the roller—coaster of emotions they are going through. they are enjoying themselves. in the moment they are smiling and taking the mickey out of each other and then the moments where people come up and talk to them which is what it is all about. we wish them well the last few days. if you have been affected by any of the issues raised in that interview, you can find help and information on the bbc action line. time now to get the news, travel and weather where you are. good morning from bbc london, i'm tolu adeoye. there are calls for a statue to be erected as a memorial to the late southend mp sir david amess in recognition of his contribution to the area. the 69—year—old father of five, was stabbed to death during a constituency surgery last week. he regularly championed southend's case to be a city — the queen's already agreed to grant the status — but it's hoped even more can be done to honour him. what i would say, though, is we need to take a little bit of time to make sure that what we do do to honour sir david is fully in accordance with the wishes of his family. the thames barrier will close today for the two hundreth time since it became operational in 1982. it's the second largest moveable flood barrier in the world — reducing the risk of flooding for up to 640,000 properties along the river thames. the closure comes as the environment agency warns of increasing sea levels along the thames estuary as a result of climate change. just to say on the subject of climate change, london's mayor sadiq khan will be taking your questions on the expansion of the ultra low emission zone. he'll be on bbc london tonight at 630. a film made by young people focusing on youth violence and how it affects mental health has won an award at the london international film festival. ijust think you i just think you need someone to talk to, someone who doesn't know you and you don't know them. it has to be someone neutral. 'sick�* was produced by paul mckenzie, co—founder of youth unity — a group which develops projects to help disadvantged young people. he hopes it will help break the stigma around the subject of mental health. let's take a look at the travel situation. this is how tfl services are looking right now. just minor delays on the metropolitan line. 0nto the weather now with kate kinsella. good morning. last night's rainfall totals widely saw 25 to 35 rainham however saw 53, so a very wet night. this morning, we still could see some rain as the cold front moves south but that will clear up fairly quickly and what it will do is introduce much colder air and we will notice that temperature drop through the course of today. that is our cold front the rain clearing behind it, and it is dry, we have sunshine, but an brisk north—westerly breeze and that will make things feel chilly. temperatures may be 13 or 14 c, significantly chillier than the last few days. 0vernight tonight we will hang on to the breeze. there is a small chance of a shower blowing down from the north—west but largely dry with clear spells and a minimum temperature dropping to three or 4 c, so again, a chillier night. we have a ridge of high pressure building on both friday and we start to open up a south—westerly breeze and that will bring in some slightly milder air so the temperature will make a recovery as we head towards the weekend. plenty of dry weather in the forecast, but a few glimpses of sunshine. i'm back with the latest from the bbc london in half an hour. now though it's back to charlie and naga. bye for now. good morning and welcome to breakfast with naga munchetty and charlie stayt. coming up on breakfast this morning. 0wain's not stopped practicing on his drums since we revealed his epic "children in need" 24—hour drumathon challenge last week, so we thought he deserved a treat. we'll show you the moment we took him to meet one of his all—time musical heroes. spotted a year ago, he's now the youngest—ever recruit to arsenal football club's pre—academy — we'll meet the five—year—old who's being called "little messi". music. and after a string of eurovision flops, we'll be asking if dua lipa's management can help the uk get to the top of the famous song contest leader board. if you were watching breakfast yesterday, you'll know that we reported on so—called "spiking", after a number of women said they'd been injected with drugs on nights out. nottinghamshire police have told us they've had 12 reports in just the last three weeks. it comes as nearly 150,000 people have signed a petition calling on the government to make searches at bars and clubs mandatory. fi lamdin has this report. miranda's drink was spiked after a night out in leeds. after a few sips she felt unwell and asked for help. it makes me feel deeply frightened because all i kept thinking that night when i was sort of going in and out of consciousness, i was feeling like i was going to die, you know? and sadly it wasn't taken seriously. but 40 miles away in sheffield this bar certainly is. they already have anti—smoking measures in place. the bars are aware of it but they did not want to shout about it. it's a negative connotation for the night out and i think bars were thinking it was not good for business and i think there's been a shift in realising that if this is not snuffed out and taken care of soon then it could cause bigger problems down the line for the whole industry. spiking, whether it be putting drugs in people's drinks or injecting the victims directly, it's all causing so much concern that here in bristol many people are boycotting clubs and pubs next wednesday. joining the national campaign girls night in. all of my male friends in my social group all feel the same way of my best mates are both girls and two of them been spiked and i feel very scared for them. you hear about it every day, people that you love and you would like to be safe, so i thinkjust in solidarity i think all of us will definitely be doing the strike. like alex's friend ilana, a 3rd—year student at bristol university. three weeks ago she was spiked on a night out. i basically got spiked at a nightclub in bristol and i only knew it happened, like, when i saw the videos of it and looking back on it i could have predicted it happening. luckily, i was with friends, so basically looking back on it this guy spiked me and the moment i told him i am with my boyfriend he asked me if i wanted to dance with him and the moment i was like i'm with my boyfriend he left me completely and an hour later i went back home and it hit and i was completely paralysed. she was unable to move. her boyfriend filmed this footage which he wanted us to broadcast. go to bed. ilana has since been back to talk to the club. what they could do, whether it's even like putting a lid cups like they do with takeaway coffee cups that can prevent spiking so much and i feel like the fact they don't is just shocking. and it was a similar story for immi a 4th—year student. i believe i have had my drink spiked but i think a lot- of girls are thinking that. what are you doing to protect yourself? wearing a denim jacket because i've heard it's harder for the needles- to pierce through the denim, i but aside from that is just trying ito be aware as possible and looking l out for my female friends and making sure they get home safe and stuff like that which has always - been important to me. will it stop you going out? yes, 100%. i would rather say i am safe at home or do something safe at home with my friends when no one is going to do anything there. and it's notjust in england. in scotland they are also joining next wednesday's boycott. we just genuinely believe that if security is not going to be taken seriously when it comes to women especially with spiking in nightclubs then we simply won't turn up and show that we make—up a large percentage of people who attend nightlife and without us what are the venues going to do? for weeks, many victims say they feel they have been ignored but finally the industry and the police seem to be listening. so how much of the responsibility for preventing this should be on the bars and clubs themselves? let's speak to michael kill from the night time industries association. thank night time industries association. you for your tim morning. thank you for your time this morning. first of all, some harrowing accounts in the report just now and i'm sure you have been watching and listening to a few of them, so what do you make of what you have heard? it’s them, so what do you make of what you have heard?— you have heard? it's hugely concerning _ you have heard? it's hugely concerning to _ you have heard? it's hugely concerning to hear - you have heard? it's hugely concerning to hear about i you have heard? it's hugely| concerning to hear about the you have heard? it's hugely - concerning to hear about the reports and the individual experiences from women at night and the number of spiking is taking place across the country and without a doubt, just to reinforce our position, we do take these incidents very seriously. and we are working extremely hard with police and the key stakeholders and people who have experienced this to put protocols in place, to raise awareness, communicate and extend our extend our community measures to make sure people are safe at night. can i ask you a straight question? did you know about this before yesterday. we did you know about this before yesterday-— did you know about this before esterda . ~ . , ., yesterday. we have seen escalating cases over the _ yesterday. we have seen escalating cases over the last _ yesterday. we have seen escalating cases over the last three _ yesterday. we have seen escalating cases over the last three or - yesterday. we have seen escalating cases over the last three or four - cases over the last three or four weeks. there have been isolated cases, without a doubt over the last few years and since many people have beenin few years and since many people have been in the industry, they've been very isolated, not to the scope and size reported at the moment, hence the reason we are asking for the home office to put an enquiry in place and really look at the scope and size of this issue because there are some challenges outside of this in terms of convictions, confidence from women coming forward and other people coming forward and this is not women who have this issue as over 20% of the victims are men also, so we need to understand the size and scope of the imminent position we are undertaking is to extend safety measures and safeguarding measures to ensure people can come out and have confidence we are taking every measure possible to keep them safe. talk me through some of the practicalities. somebody wants to go to a nightclub this weekend, it could be tonight, the morrow, the weekend, so what checks will there be? will they be closely searched, like body searches of people going in? will that be happening? is it now a in? willthat be happening? is it now a requirement? in? willthat be happening? is it nowa requirement? for in? willthat be happening? is it now a requirement? for many places open down the country there are still strong protocols in search of searching and things like metal ones and some people have undertaken looking at testing kits but they've also got things like on—site medics, drink, done is, covers four bottles and toppers on the reasons there is and toppers on the reasons there is a stringent duty of care is the people are really addressing their training and making sure staff and security are more vigilant on people coming in but also people leaving. the one thing we would ask and one of the challenges we have is that collaborative working relationship with the community, particularly the police, who we need to proactively involved so we can start to turn some of these people who are committing these crimes and getting some convictions. 0ne committing these crimes and getting some convictions. one of the stance thatis some convictions. one of the stance that is frustrating out of bristol is over 500 cases of this since 2016 but not one conviction and we need to change the narrative. back but not one conviction and we need to change the narrative.— to change the narrative. back to some of the _ to change the narrative. back to some of the practicalities, - to change the narrative. back to some of the practicalities, if- to change the narrative. back to some of the practicalities, if i i to change the narrative. back to i some of the practicalities, if i was a young woman thinking about going to a club over the next few nights, is it unreasonable of me to say, i expect, in fact i demand that the club i am going to, the venue, has properly body searched all of the men going into the venue? is that acceptable? is that a reasonable request? acceptable? is that a reasonable reauest? ., . , acceptable? is that a reasonable reauest? ., ., , , , acceptable? is that a reasonable reauest? ., ., , , request? for many venues it is part ofthe request? for many venues it is part of the licence. _ request? for many venues it is part of the licence. the _ request? for many venues it is part of the licence. the problem - request? for many venues it is part of the licence. the problem here i request? for many venues it is part of the licence. the problem here is| of the licence. the problem here is is what we — of the licence. the problem here is is what we know _ of the licence. the problem here is is what we know now _ of the licence. the problem here is is what we know now because - of the licence. the problem here is is what we know now because of i of the licence. the problem here is i is what we know now because of what is what we know now because of what is coming out from the stories we hear, it hasn't worked, because this is happening now, so what i'm asking is, what will change, not the procedures in place right now. you understand the difference because this is happening regardless? i understand that. what i'm saying is that the searching is happening on the door now and the pat downs are happening on the door for male and female customers coming through the door, so we are doing everything we can in terms of admission, and pat downs without a doubt show up lots of different things, so we work with the police on that and we are doing, in every way possible, the best we can to make sure people are safe and not bringing things into the venue. that's something that has to be dealt with not only by the industry and businesses but also needs to be dealt with as a community is key stakeholders and also policing, so we are asking the police to step up and take an active part in the convictions and the handing over of people who potentially are looking to commit the crime.— to commit the crime. michael, the roblem to commit the crime. michael, the problem here _ to commit the crime. michael, the problem here and _ to commit the crime. michael, the problem here and what _ to commit the crime. michael, the problem here and what i _ to commit the crime. michael, the problem here and what i was - to commit the crime. michael, the | problem here and what i was trying to address before, is you say you are doing everything you can but we have a problem, so i'm not quite sure what you think is going to change? this sure what you think is going to chance? �* , sure what you think is going to chance? a ., ., change? as we said, one of the bi est change? as we said, one of the biggest challenges _ change? as we said, one of the biggest challenges we - change? as we said, one of the biggest challenges we have - change? as we said, one of the biggest challenges we have is l change? as we said, one of the l biggest challenges we have is the communication and education of some of the challenges around spiking and educating women and raising awareness, but also doing everything we can to stem anyone coming in with anything. the challenge we have, all along is that this has to be a collective approach and is notjust about the night—time economy, this is also about people being very aware of the situation and also, as i alluded to, making sure that those perpetrators, evidence is gathered on the perpetrators are convicted through law. flan on the perpetrators are convicted through law-— through law. can i pick up on one thin ou through law. can i pick up on one thing you said — through law. can i pick up on one thing you said just _ through law. can i pick up on one thing you said just there, - through law. can i pick up on one thing you said just there, and - through law. can i pick up on one| thing you said just there, and you said we've got to educate women. it seems a curious message to come out of a situation where women are victims. ., ., .. ., ., victims. no, no, education and raising awareness _ victims. no, no, education and raising awareness is _ victims. no, no, education and raising awareness is the - victims. no, no, education and raising awareness is the key i victims. no, no, education and raising awareness is the key to j victims. no, no, education and i raising awareness is the key to it, so understanding the vulnerabilities on the issues within the night—time economy as a key part of what we do already. communication is key. we need to make awareness of the perpetrators out there so they understand the gravity of the situation when they come in the venues we are talking about, so at present we are collectively working with people who have been victims of this crime but also working with the police and key stakeholders and particularly charities to make sure that the communication is right and people are very aware of the challenges so they do not place themselves in this situation. michael, thank you for your time. from the night—time industries association. we shall also educate the people who think it's ok to do that to women and men as well. three weeks auo that to women and men as well. three weeks ago i — that to women and men as well. three weeks ago i was _ that to women and men as well. three weeks ago i was talking _ that to women and men as well. three weeks ago i was talking about - weeks ago i was talking about cristiano ronaldo and a late rescue act for old trafford on a wednesday night in the champions league and he's done it again. a different team, but equally dramatic. it was a night when it was raining goals and four for chelsea who swept aside malmo in london.while the latest european rescue mission at manchester united has taken them to the top of their champions league group and once again it was ronaldo late onand once againit lifted the pressure on his manager asjoe wilson reports the manager may say he is impervious to negativity but 0le gunnar solskjaer�*s not made of norwegian wood. he knows the expectation at manchester united. he knows that when atalanta from italy found a way to goal so quickly and they are ahead! ..it would increase the scrutiny on him. but he does not defend. he's not there to compete in the air when a corner comes in. good corner. it is 2-0! yep, this was happening. any ideas? bad to worse for manchester united. this pass from bruno fernandes was perfect. now it was down to marcus rashford — had to score. is this the moment for rashford? did. hope was back. now sancho. with all united's attacking stars who do you want with this chance? harry maguire? 75th minute, still time, still someone. 2-2! a story with all these turns and twists could only be complete with a ronaldo leap. into ronaldo! old trafford shook with the rhythm of revival. genius, isn't he? he was even down in the six yard box and blocked defending at the end. you can see him sprinting. he did everything a centre forward should be doing, leading the line and defending, so of course, the goal is just what he does better than most. meanwhile, chelsea were in control in west london. kai havertz here, 4—0 final score against malmo. lukaku and werner limped off but this result no dramas. joe wilson, bbc news. leicester city also staged a dramatic fight back in moscow and this was all about summer signing patson daka who scored all four. a special achievement according to his manager brendan rodgers. leicester were 2—0 down at spartak moscow before daka, a zambian international, began the comeback just before half time and the goals kept on coming as he capped of the match with this impressive fourth. spartak did pull one back but the foxes had already done enough to secure the victory. leicester are up now to second in group c. the captain of england's t20 team is in such poorform, he admits he might consider dropping himself for the t20 world cup, if his performances don't improve. despite victory over new zealand, in theirfinalwarm—up match, morgan managed just 10 runs, of england's innings of 163 for 6. england face the west indies in their first match on saturday. meanwhile, in the race, to qualify, for the main event, the super 12, ireland have suffered a set back as they were beaten by sri lanka by 70 runs yesterday— joshua little, the last man to fall for the irish. it meas that sri lanka have qualified for the next stage of the competition, but ireland, face a winner takes all tie with namibia, tomorrow, to see if their world cup campaign can continue. and today it is about scotland as they can reach the super 12 if they can beat a man but it is taking place in the home ground on the coast of oman. home advantage always has an influence. the government is considering allowing foreign—registered trucks to move more freight around in the uk before returning to their home country. the move is designed to increase deliveries which have been held up as a result of the shortage of hgv drivers. but not everyone is happy with the plans. nina is at a haulage firm in cheshire for us. it's about talking to people who do the job, it's about talking to people who do thejob, so it's about talking to people who do the job, so what is the picture there? it the job, so what is the picture there? ., , , ., the job, so what is the picture there? . , , ., ., ,, there? it really is, and you talk about moving _ there? it really is, and you talk about moving freight _ there? it really is, and you talk about moving freight around i there? it really is, and you talk| about moving freight around the there? it really is, and you talk i about moving freight around the uk and i want to show you it's not that straightforward. this is one truck, and they don't know what is there until they pulled back the curtain and there are some pies, and may be some kids toys and garden furniture may be some hospitality glasses to be delivered and some new potatoes on their way to the supermarket, so it is bits and bobs and we moved to different parts of the country and it's very unpredictable which is why we have a shortage of drivers and there are problems. the shortage continues and we have seen a real spike in applicants but it doesn't unblock the current problem and that is why the government is addressing something called cabotage. it is long established where foreign workers can come to the uk and do more than one trip around once they have dropped off the initial load. as things stand, the moment, the rules are that can make to cabotage trips in the space of seven days and the consultation that ends today would look at whether they can make unlimited numbers of cabotage trips around the uk over the period of 14 days and this would be a temporary measure and only allowed to take place for six months, and the aim of that would be to unblock the current supply chain issues and number one, would it work, and what would it do to government plans to obscure british workers. let's speak to simon he's been in the trade since he was this big and you're nan used to drive these. find he was this big and you're nan used to drive these.— he was this big and you're nan used to drive these. and my grandma used to drive these. and my grandma used to drive these. and my grandma used to drive the — to drive these. and my grandma used to drive the trucks. _ to drive these. and my grandma used to drive the trucks. fantastic. - to drive the trucks. fantastic. there's been _ to drive the trucks. fantastic. there's been a _ to drive the trucks. fantastic. there's been a tiny _ to drive the trucks. fantastic. there's been a tiny uptake i to drive the trucks. fantastic. there's been a tiny uptake of| there's been a tiny uptake of foreign drivers taking the visas, so why would this measure were? it would be easier because they are already— would be easier because they are already coming in with the truck and they don't— already coming in with the truck and they don't need to apply with the visa and — they don't need to apply with the visa and they are here with the truck_ visa and they are here with the truck and — visa and they are here with the truck and can deliver the load from europe _ truck and can deliver the load from europe and — truck and can deliver the load from europe and pick up another load, a domestic— europe and pick up another load, a domestic load in the uk from somewhere and deliver it would be easier_ somewhere and deliver it would be easier because they are already coming — easier because they are already coming in — easier because they are already coming in with the truck and they don't _ coming in with the truck and they don't need — coming in with the truck and they don't need to apply with the visa and they— don't need to apply with the visa and they are here with the truck and can deliver— and they are here with the truck and can deliver the load from europe and pick up _ can deliver the load from europe and pick up another load, a domestic load _ pick up another load, a domestic load in _ pick up another load, a domestic load in the — pick up another load, a domestic load in the uk from somewhere and delivery— load in the uk from somewhere and delivery and in a 14 day period and can then _ delivery and in a 14 day period and can then leave the uk and come straight — can then leave the uk and come straight back in and carry on working _ straight back in and carry on working. if they can do that with the heightened number of shuttle runs: _ the heightened number of shuttle runs, what does it do to firms like you. _ runs, what does it do to firms like you, because it is your bread and butter? _ you, because it is your bread and butter? there is a risk that the eastern — butter? there is a risk that the eastern european hauliers could come in and _ eastern european hauliers could come in and do _ eastern european hauliers could come in and do some of the loads cheaper than we _ in and do some of the loads cheaper than we can — in and do some of the loads cheaper than we can. 0ur in and do some of the loads cheaper than we can. our customers are under extreme _ than we can. our customers are under extreme pressure to get the freight moving _ extreme pressure to get the freight moving and we all in the shops and where _ moving and we all in the shops and where we _ moving and we all in the shops and where we wanted to be at the right time but _ where we wanted to be at the right time but if— where we wanted to be at the right time but if they do it cheaper and we haven't— time but if they do it cheaper and we haven't got the loads, the uk industry. — we haven't got the loads, the uk industry, the haulage industry has been _ industry, the haulage industry has been investing in the wages and training — been investing in the wages and training massively now, and if we lose some — training massively now, and if we lose some of the work, we might not be able _ lose some of the work, we might not be able to— lose some of the work, we might not be able to invest as much and as quickly — be able to invest as much and as ruickl . ., , be able to invest as much and as ruickl . . , ., be able to invest as much and as ruickl. ., ., ., ,, , quickly. finally, more applicants than ou quickly. finally, more applicants than you have — quickly. finally, more applicants than you have been _ quickly. finally, more applicants than you have been having i quickly. finally, more applicants| than you have been having here, quickly. finally, more applicants. than you have been having here, so does that mean it would undermine it? it does that mean it would undermine it? . ., ., �* it? it could well do. and if we lose some of the _ it? it could well do. and if we lose some of the work _ it? it could well do. and if we lose some of the work or _ it? it could well do. and if we lose some of the work or certain i it? it could well do. and if we lose | some of the work or certain sectors of the _ some of the work or certain sectors of the haulage industry might be affected — of the haulage industry might be affected adversely more than others, if they— affected adversely more than others, if they lose _ affected adversely more than others, if they lose some of the work, they won't _ if they lose some of the work, they won't have — if they lose some of the work, they won't have the work to fetch the drivers _ won't have the work to fetch the drivers through and we've seen a drain— drivers through and we've seen a drainand— drivers through and we've seen a drain and uptake in people talking to us— drain and uptake in people talking to us and — drain and uptake in people talking to us and wanting to become drivers. thank— to us and wanting to become drivers. thank you _ to us and wanting to become drivers. thank you very much. the government told us it is not our intent and trim to undercut the haulage industry but provide short—term support and long term they say is to develop a high skilled, high wage economy in the uk but the problem is by putting the short term measure in lace, does it undermine the long—term plan? lace, does it undermine the long-term plan?— lace, does it undermine the long-term plan? lace, does it undermine the lonr-term lan? . . ~' , long-term plan? nina, thank you very much and we — long-term plan? nina, thank you very much and we are _ long-term plan? nina, thank you very much and we are interested _ long-term plan? nina, thank you very much and we are interested in - much and we are interested in how things are working out on the ground. thank you. after wowing us with his skills during lockdown bbc weather presenter 0wain wyn evans is now one week into training for his 24—hour bbc breakfast drumathon for children in need. with just under a month to go until his challenge kicks off jayne mccubbin took him to meet one of his musical heroes — to drum up some inspiration. right. there's plenty of this. 0wain wyn evans. the uk's most fabulous weather presenter is it's fair to say a little bit distracted right now. jazzy music. hello, you! how are you doing? more importantly, how are you doing? 0h gosh, jane honestly. you are practising anyway. any time. every day. any surface. anything that makes any kind of sound when hit with a drumstick, i'm hitting it. it doesn't have to be a drum kit so yes any time anywhere, anyplace, anything. we have something rather special planned for you today. oh my gosh, i have no idea what this is by the way, i have no idea whatjane has planned for me. oh my gosh, let's go. yes, i love it. thank you very much, paul. this is all about drumming and i need to know who your drumming heroes are. so let's talk about bands. harryjudd mcfly, you know that's a bit more poppy and i love that. oh my. i think it's time to go full secret squirrel. 0k? can you? i am a bit nervous, because i don't know what you have what you have planned for me, jane. what's going on? all is about to be revealed. 0h, we are at the arena. come this way. after you. thank you. 0wain! oh my ? how are you doing? it's so good to see you. how are you? i mean, i don't know how to be honest. we've arrived amid mcfly to work for and training from one of 0wain's drumming heroes harryjudd. sorry, this isjust amazing, i can't believe you're here. come in. look at this, that mcfly rehearsal room. i know. what is this kit harry? this isjust my lovely orange gresch kit. have you ever played? i've seen you can play. well, i can play a little bit. i've seen you play some really fast efforts. # everybody wants to know her name. ijust came and sat behind your drum kit. nice height for you? gorgeous. seat a bit low? a little bit low. let me twist that out for you. i can't believe harryjudd is adjusting my drum kit. i have arrived. you know the star girl intro? yes, let's hear it. there we go. was that a bit fast? sorted. this one's a little bit harder but i think you've got it in the locker. tempo wise it's about ? so go — do do do. so what harry has done, everyone, he's gone from level two to level 5000. what was it? that's it. how do you find that drumming has helped you? definitely. it's something that keeps me in the present moment which for me is really important and i've struggled in the past with anxiety and other mental health problems and one of the key things for me when i'm struggling with those things is to remain present and have things for distraction and have things that help me stay mindful and, you know, drumming does exactly that. what is your top tip, harry, on playing the drums for a long time, for 24 hours? i don't know how you will do that. honestly, for those of you at home who don't play an instrument to play the drums for 24 hours. i play for an hour and a half an hour and 45 minutes and i am exhausted after that, so to do it for 24 hours that is an amazing, well, it will be an amazing achievement. we will see, harry, we will see. i'm feeling relatively confident, but who knows? so you need to practise this. do you know what i mean? that kind of drumming? oh yeah. super stylish straw hat. we are going to bring them back. we are bringing the straw hat back. harry, this has been such a treat. thank you so much for letting me come today and i will see you and you're gorgeous orange drum kit. lots of love. best of luck. rather you than me. we were saying that 0wain is a very good drummer, but you see how good the drummers who do it for a living really are. the drummers who do it for a living reall are. , ., , here's how you can support 0wain's drumathon challenge. if you would like to support 0wain's challenge attempt and don't need to bbc children in need you can donate £5 by texting the words very nicely done, may i say. my lips barely moved. _ very nicely done, may i say. my lips barely moved, did _ very nicely done, may i say. my lips barely moved, did you _ very nicely done, may i say. my lips barely moved, did you notice? i time now to get the news travel and weather where you are. good morning from bbc london, i'm tolu adeoye. there are calls for a statue to be erected as a memorial to the late southend mp sir david amess in recognition of his contribution to the area. the 69—year—old father of five was stabbed to death during a constituency surgery last week. he regularly championed southend's case to be a city — the queen's already agreed to grant the status but it's hoped even more can be done to honour him. we need to take a little bit of time to make sure what we do do to honour sir david is fully in accordance with the wishes of his family and close friends. the thames barrier will close today for the 200th time since it became operational in 1982. it's the second largest moveable flood barrier in the world — reducing the risk of flooding for up to 640,000 properties along the river thames. the closure comes as the environment agency warns of increasing sea levels along the thames estuary as a result of climate change. just to say on the subject of climate change, london's mayor sadiq khan will be taking your questions on the expansion of the ultra low emission zone. he'll be on bbc london tonight live at 6:30pm. a film made by young people focusing on youth violence and how it affects mental health has won an award at the london international film festival. ijust think you i just think you need someone to talk to, someone who doesn't know you and you do not know them. it has to be someone neutral. 'sick�* was produced by paul mckenzie, co—founder of youth unity — a group which develops projects to help disadvantged young people. he hopes it will help break the stigma around the subject of mental health. let's take a look at the travel situation. this is how tfl services are looking right now. there's a good service on the tubes this morning, apart from minor delays on the metropolitan line. on to the weather now with kate kinsella. good morning. last night's rainfall totals widely saw 25 to 35 millimetres of rain up until midnight. rainham however saw 53, so a very wet night. this morning, we still could see some rain as the cold front moves south but that will clear up fairly quickly and what it will do is introduce much colder air and we will notice that temperature drop through the course of today. that is our cold front the rain clearing behind it, and it is dry, we have sunshine, but an brisk north—westerly breeze and that will make things feel chilly. temperatures may be 13 or 14 c, significantly chillier than the last few days. 0vernight tonight we will hang on to the breeze. there is a small chance of a shower blowing down from the north—west but largely dry with clear spells and a minimum temperature dropping to 3c or 4c, so again, a chillier night. we have a ridge of high pressure building on both friday and we start to open up a south—westerly breeze and that will bring in some slightly milder air so the temperature will make a recovery as we head towards the weekend. plenty of dry weather in the forecast, but a few glimpses of sunshine. i'm back with the latest from the bbc london in half an hour. bye for now. good morning. welcome to breakfast with naga munchetty and charlie stayt. 0ur headlines today... the government is under mounting pressure to reintroduce coronavirus restrictions in england, with doctors accusing ministers of being "wilfully negligent." mps ask police forces to urgently assess the scale of the problem with women being spiked with needles in nightclubs. the bbc has seen documents detailing how intensely the un is being lobbied — by countries around the world — to water down its warnings about climate change. good morning. a chilly start to the day and a cold day generally. for most of us it will be dry with sunshine. some showers coming in and a brisk north—westerly wind and gales on the north sea coastline. all the details later on in the programme. it's thursday the 21st october. our main story. pressure is growing on the government to re—impose some covid restrictions in england, amid a surge in cases. it comes as the british medical association has accused ministers of being "wilfully negligent". it says measures, such as compulsory face coverings and social distancing should be brought back in now, to protect the nhs as we head into the winter months. here's our political correspondent, jonathan blake. the nhs under pressure. staff and resources always strained as winter approaches, but as covid admissions rise, doctors warn it could become unbearable. the government should be making sure that the public are expected and required to follow simple infection control measures, such as the wearing of masks in indoor public settings, including public transport. now is the time to act. we have enough evidence that this a trajectory heading in the wrong direction. yesterday, the health secretary acknowledged things would get worse. 100,000 cases per day, he warned. and unless people took precautions, ministers would have to act. am i saying that if we don't do our bit, get vaccinated, you know, all of those behavioural changes that we can make, that we are more likely to face restrictions as we head into winter, then i am saying that. i think we have been really clear that we've all got a role to play. for now, the government is holding firm and says it's not yet time to take further measures. moving to the government's plan b in england would make face coverings mandatory in some settings. people would be asked to work from home, and vaccine passports introduced. in northern ireland, face coverings remain a legal requirement in crowded indoor spaces. it's the same for masks in wales, where proof of vaccination is needed in nightclubs and people are asked to work from home. scotland's strategy similarly includes vaccine passports and face masks are required in schools and some other settings. for now, the focus at westminster is urging those not yet vaccinated to come forward, and getting booster jabs to those eligible. but doctors say it's wilfully negligent of ministers not to take further steps, and pressure on the health service is likely only to increase in the coming weeks. jonathan blake, bbc news. let's get more now from our political correspondent chris mason. yesterday we listened carefully to sajid javid's announcements. talking about what he thinks lies ahead of the situation is now. also at the same time we're hearing from health leaders saying they are very worried about the media and things that could happen now that might help. where are we this morning? jabbed and carry on — where are we this morning? jabbed and carry on cautiously, _ where are we this morning? jabbed and carry on cautiously, seems i where are we this morning? jabbed and carry on cautiously, seems to l where are we this morning? jabbedl and carry on cautiously, seems to be big government mantra. the first time in five weeks we had had the five o'clock ritual of the medics and the minister. the last time we saw them was when they set out their covid autumn and winter plan. i have gone back this morning to look at that. they specifically set out what plan b and england would look like. there were three strands to it, the first one having to wear face coverings again and mandatory in craddick public places, the idea of covid passports, in other words having to show your covid is status before going into particular venues. the first stage of plan b was a request voluntarily to behave cautiously because of a rising number of cases. to my reckoning that was implemented yesterday with the idea you behave voluntarily in a better and more responsible way they will not have to be the imposition of the other stuff. that is kind of where we are. with england increasingly an outlier, elsewhere increasingly an outlier, elsewhere in scotland, wales and northern ireland there are some of those restrictions still in place. worth pointing out in a pandemic where governments have had to lean on plans d, e and f, the government is specifically, publicly and explicitly denying it is not true. some reports in the paper saying there are reports of plan c in government of restricting household mixing. that is where we are. the government very keen not to implement further restrictions but also rather cautious as well. thank ou ve also rather cautious as well. thank you very much _ also rather cautious as well. thank you very much for _ also rather cautious as well. thank you very much for that. _ also rather cautious as well. thank you very much for that. the i you very much for that. the responsibility very much on individuals. if you have thoughts on this, i do not know what you are doing ourselves, what yourfamily this, i do not know what you are doing ourselves, what your family is doing, whether you are wearing a facemask, all of those things. we'll be speaking to the health minister, edward argar, at 7.30am today. the home secretary, priti patel, has asked police for an update on so—called "spiking," following a spate of reports of women being injected with drugs on nights out. night time leaders have called for an inquiry, and more than 150,000 people have signed a petition calling on the government to make nightclub searches compulsory. the boss of one of the uk s biggest energy companies has called for the price cap — which sets a maximum price that households pay — to be abolished. keith anderson, who's the chief executive of scottish power, said the recent energy crisis had exposed deep flaws in the way the market was structured — and serious failures on the part of the regulator, 0fgem. 0fgem said the price cap had helped protect millions of customers from sudden increases in global gas prices. nearly 1,500 people have been arrested in england and wales in a week—long operation against so—called "county—lines" drug networks. they involve dealers — usually in big urban centres — selling to customers in smaller places using dedicated phone—lines. more than 130 lines were closed last week — and almost £2 million of class a drugs seized. police searching for the missing fiance of a murdered american blogger have found what appear to be "human remains" in a park in florida. agents said items belonging to brian laundrie, who is a person of interest in gabby petito's death, were also found during the search. mr laundrie has been missing for more than a month after returning to florida from a joint trip without his partner. donald trump has announced plans to launch his own social media network. announcing the plans, the former us president said "truth social" would "stand up to the tyranny of big tech". mr trump was banned from twitter and facebook after his supporters stormed the us capitol building in washington injanuary. in a statement, he said it was "unacceptable" that "your favourite american president" had been silenced. we need to hear about what is going on with the weather this morning. i do often admire the pitch is behind you. i am often looking at that instead of you, naturally. this one is particularly stunning, isn't it? it is, gorgeous. if you are by the coast met many of us will have a view like this. on the east coast especially we are looking at gales. there is a chilly wind which is brisk. the wind yesterday has moved away. this band is a weak weather front moving south. a lot of showers coming in on the strong, north—westerly wind. some will be wintry higher ground. these are the desks you can expect. gales down the east coast, a lot of sunshine around. the full moon last night and spring tides, there could be over topping across parts of the east coast of england and also across 0rkney as well. temperatures today ranging from six in the north to 14 in the south. with the wind chill it will feel colder than that. this evening and overnight once again we will have clear skies. still a lot of showers coming in on the brisk win. temperature wise another cold one in prospect. cold enough in it in sheltered areas for a touch of frost. for most of us too much wind to have that issue. tomorrow we will start with more clout than we are looking at today. we'll still see showers and sunshine but the winds will be the much lighter. we are looking at temperatures of eight to 14 degrees. after that the temperatures start to rise as we go through the course of the weekend. to start the weekend it will be dry but there is rain coming in on saturday from the west which will eventually get over to the east on sunday. this must be quite a fun couple of weeks for you because the weather has been so varied. rather than settle to have had to keep russell informed regarding layers, temperatures, etc. that is right. i love it when it is like this, there is something to get your teeth into but you always have to temper it with the effect it will have on somebody else. for example we had a tornado in widnes in cheshire yesterday which can cause devastating results. there were unconfirmed reports of tornadoes elsewhere as well. you do not often hear about them here. you say that but we have more tornadoes per square mile than we do want tornado alley. i will tell you more about that later as well. this is what you are going to talk about, isn't it? it was. widnes certainly has a confirmed report of a tornado but unconfirmed reports near wearing and another one as well. yesterday was windy and today will be windy once again. you cannot forecast exactly where a tornado is going to be. if you could, tornado alley would be packed with tornado chasers. i didn't know we had more tornadoes. as we've been hearing this morning, covid cases could soon reach 100,000 a day, according to the health secretary. the warning comes amid a sharp rise in infection rates. let's take a look at the picture across the uk. these are the latest figures for the week up to the 15th of october. in england, there were 447 cases per 100,000 people. face coverings aren't required by law, there are no social distancing measures in most places, and covid passes aren't compulsory for entry into nightclubs. in wales, there were 624 cases per 100,000 people. face coverings are mandatory on public transport and in shops and restaurants. there are no social distancing requirements in most places, but a covid pass is needed for entry to nightclubs, as well as many indoor and outdoor events. in northern ireland, there were 473 cases per 100,000 people. face coverings are compulsory on public transport, in shops and in most indoor settings. social distancing measures remain in place in hospitality settings. covid passes aren't required for entry into indoor venues, but nightclubs are closed until the end of this month. and in scotland, there were 316 cases per 100,000 people. face coverings are mandatory on public transport, in secondary schools and in some inside areas like shops. social distancing measures are not required in most places. all over—18s are required to prove their vaccine status at nightclubs and other venues. let's speak now to our favourite duo — virologist dr chris smith and professor of public health linda bauld. very good morning to you both. and we only one — very good morning to you both. fific we only one of very good morning to you both. fific we only one of your very good morning to you both. a"ic we only one of your favourite very good morning to you both. aic we only one of your favourite duos? i am miffed! we only one of your favourite duos? iam miffed! you we only one of your favourite duos? i am miffed! you said we only one of your favourite duos? iam miffed! you said it. we we only one of your favourite duos? i am miffed! you said it. we will think about that one. we have business to get through. 0ur think about that one. we have business to get through. our first question is this, a serious matter, isn't it? yesterday we heard from the health secretary, there was a number he talked about, we may reach 100,000 cases a day but we may reach that point. can you extrapolate? we are now around the 50,000 a day marker. what will happen in the weeks ahead in the run—up to christmas and into the new year? first of all let's consider what the 100,000 means. that is detect cases, confirmed cases where people have had tests. half of the cases we see are asymptomatic. that has become even more prominent in the post—vaccine era. when people have been vaccinated they are more likely to have fewer or no symptoms. the detected cases at 50,000, we are close to 100,000 cases a day anyway. we just do not know about lots of them. probably we do have really high levels bordering on that sort of member already. really this is a barometer, isn't it, of what the direction of travel is. the trend at the moment in cases is upwards. the more reassuring trend at the moment is how many people are becoming severely unwell and losing their lives. that number thankfully does remain very, very low and is direct testimony to the performance of the vaccines. vaccines remain an important point. at the downing street press briefing yesterday, one of the most poignant slides was one comparing rates of people with the vaccine the cis non—vaccine, who are becoming severely unwell or getting the infection. the number of unvaccinated cases is way and stripping the number of vaccinated cases. 5 million have not been vaccinated. they are urging, if we're going to do anything about coronavirus, it is go and grab a jab. coronavirus, it is go and grab a 'ab. ~ ., ., ., jab. we are going through the numbers and _ jab. we are going through the numbers and cases _ jab. we are going through the numbers and cases per i jab. we are going through the i numbers and cases per 100,000 in jab. we are going through the - numbers and cases per 100,000 in all the 4—macro nations. we mentioned what restrictions are in place or what restrictions are in place or what guidance is in place. looking at the numbers, i could not discern whether, if facemask is our compulsory, if it has an impact on the number of cases? 0bviously compulsory, if it has an impact on the number of cases? obviously there is pressure on the government to enact part of plan b1 of theirs is wearing face coverings and making it compulsory in public places. you have seen _ compulsory in public places. you have seen different patterns across the uk _ have seen different patterns across the uk. you mentioned the cases per 100000 _ the uk. you mentioned the cases per 100000 and they do vary. in many places— 100000 and they do vary. in many places you — 100000 and they do vary. in many places you had to wear face coverings. 0ne places you had to wear face coverings. one thing we did not know coverings. 0ne thing we did not know earlier— coverings. 0ne thing we did not know earlier in_ coverings. one thing we did not know earlier in the — coverings. one thing we did not know earlier in the pandemic about the virus _ earlier in the pandemic about the virus is _ earlier in the pandemic about the virus is it— earlier in the pandemic about the virus is it was airborne. you can have _ virus is it was airborne. you can have small— virus is it was airborne. you can have small particles we can come into contact with. we have many studies — into contact with. we have many studies on — into contact with. we have many studies on masks, in the lab, experiments and also in the real world _ experiments and also in the real world a— experiments and also in the real world. a large study from bangladesh where _ world. a large study from bangladesh where 350,000 people randomised people _ where 350,000 people randomised people to _ where 350,000 people randomised people to wear masks and they found infaction— people to wear masks and they found infection rates were lowered by 9% 10% where — infection rates were lowered by 9% 10% where people were wearing masks. they do— 10% where people were wearing masks. they do make a difference. we know if they— they do make a difference. we know if they fit _ they do make a difference. we know if they fit well and there are several— if they fit well and there are several layers of cloth they are better — several layers of cloth they are better than if they are thin. although it is not the single difference between devolved nations, it is interesting to see across the uk 85% — it is interesting to see across the uk 85% of— it is interesting to see across the uk 85% of people still say they are trying _ uk 85% of people still say they are trying to— uk 85% of people still say they are trying to wear them. even though it is not _ trying to wear them. even though it is not required everywhere, when you are in_ is not required everywhere, when you are in a _ is not required everywhere, when you are in a crowded place, particularly indoors. _ are in a crowded place, particularly indoors. it— are in a crowded place, particularly indoors. it is— are in a crowded place, particularly indoors, it is important that people continue _ indoors, it is important that people continue to— indoors, it is important that people continue to do that. pick indoors, it is important that people continue to do that.— indoors, it is important that people continue to do that. pick up on some ofthe continue to do that. pick up on some of the information _ continue to do that. pick up on some of the information in _ continue to do that. pick up on some of the information in connection i of the information 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the moment of the cases but this is at the moment not defined as something of greater concern but one to watch. what we do not know at the moment is, is increasing because i have been a few hotspots and outbreaks that have tipped the balance and made the numbers look bigger or is it generally there is some kind of advantage which means it spreads more estimate when alpha, but cant variant, appeared last christmas, it completely took over all of the circulation in the country and was displaced by the delta variant, which then took over. will this one take over? we don't know. does it have evidence of being more clinically severe? we don't know. it has appeared as a blip on the biological radar. we are watching it but we do not yet had the measure of whether it poses a major threat. the genetic changes it contains are not new. we had seen around the world in other contexts and they did not seem to paint a particularly bad picture when they appeared in other contexts. will they make a 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change. the science says, unless we start making dramatic cuts to emissions now, we risk very serious consequences. the world has experienced some of the most extreme weather ever recorded in recent years. terrible floods in india, while hot, dry weather has sparked vast fires in australia, as well as in brazil and in argentina. yet leaked documents seen by the bbc shows these are among countries pressuring the un to change its message on the options for tackling climate change. saudi arabia, australia and japan are arguing the world doesn't need to reduce fossilfuel use as quickly as the un suggests. the saudis ask un scientists to delete a claim that the focus for the energy sector should be actively phasing out fossil fuels. meanwhile, india warns it expects coal to remain the mainstay of energy production for decades. the leak consists of thousands of comments by governments and others to the scientists responsible for a key un report. they were given to greenpeace uk, which passed them on to the bbc. these un reports are pretty much the bible of climate science. they are used by governments to decide how to tackle climate change and they will provide a crucial input to the negotiations in glasgow. scientists who have helped compile these reports say the un science is objective. there is absolutely no pressure on scientists to accept the comments. if comments are lobbying, if they are not justified by science, they will not be integrated in the ipcc reports. the leak comes days before a crucial climate conference begins in glasgow. it shows just how tricky the negotiations are likely to be. but don't give up hope just yet, says a veteran of countless international negotiations. people can see the effects of climate change. and the effects of climate change, by the way, on countries like india and china, are going to be dramatic. this is all about understanding that even though the challenge is immense, there really isn't an alternative to dealing with it. you've got to go back and redouble your efforts, including with those people who still are holding out. they are putting the finishing touches to the huge conference facilities in glasgow. this leak shows just how tough the negotiations there are likely to be. we will discover at the conference whether, despite the lobbying, world leaders are willing to take the ambitious action needed to curb emissions. justin rowlatt, bbc news. justin joins us on the sofa now. justin, helped me with something. i suppose in some ways, with this conference coming up, what you want is countries to be candid, don't you? if they are not, what a real doing? the link you have seen this sort of information, suggest there is a whole different thing going on. i suppose in a way there is a candidness here. we are seeing is the real position that governments are taking on the different ways to tackle climate change. that is what the ipcc, the un science body, says. it wants government involved, it wants governments commenting and saying we will onlyjudge it on evidence but we want countries to contribute in this. it shows the real position they will take in this conference. notjust about real position they will take in this conference. not just about fossil fuels. brazilargentina conference. not just about fossil fuels. brazil argentina are both big beef producing nations. saying, do we need to stress that as much? meat can be part of a low carbon diet. some rich countries like australia and switzerland saying, do we need to stress so much the need to give money to poorer countries to help them with the transition to a low carbon economy? as you say, what it is revealing is the divisions and fractures that will make the negotiations in glasgow so difficult. ~ ., ., negotiations in glasgow so difficult. ~ . ., , difficult. when i hear that, it is thinkin: , difficult. when i hear that, it is thinking. self— difficult. when i hear that, it is thinking, self interest. - difficult. when i hear that, it is thinking, self interest. seems| difficult. when i hear that, it is i thinking, self interest. seems like it isjumping right up the thinking, self interest. seems like it is jumping right up the agenda of what is going on. it isjumping right up the agenda of what is going on.— what is going on. when you read it the sa what is going on. when you read it they say there _ what is going on. when you read it they say there are _ what is going on. when you read it they say there are technologies i what is going on. when you read it. they say there are technologies that can caption carbon outside and store it underground. they need to give emphasis to that. the uk are saying they will not come quickly to reduce carbon emissions in the way we need to if we are to avoid the worst effects on climate change. there is debate about how effective the technologies will be. the position of the un at the moment is we are facing a really serious crisis. this is at the heart of the problem. politics looks at this year, this week, this year, maybe a couple of years ahead. what we are doing in terms of putting carbon monoxide into the atmosphere is a story that will evolve over decades and for thousands of years. this will affect the climate thousands of years in the climate thousands of years in the future. that is what is harder everybody to reconcile the need for cheap energy now with the effects that could have on all of us way, way into the future. we that could have on all of us way, way into the future.— that could have on all of us way, way into the future. we will see how thin . s way into the future. we will see how things unfold- _ way into the future. we will see how things unfold. rank— way into the future. we will see how things unfold. rank you _ way into the future. we will see how things unfold. rank you very - way into the future. we will see how things unfold. rank you very much. | find out what is happening where you are this morning. thank you. good morning from bbc london, i'm tolu adeoye. there are calls for a statue to be erected as a memorial to the late southend mp sir david amess in recognition of his contribution to the area. the 69—year—old father of five was stabbed to death during a constituency surgery last week. he regularly championed southend's case to be a city — the queen's already agreed to grant the status — but it's hoped even more can be done to honour him. we need to take a little bit of time to make sure that what we do do to honour sir david is fully in accordance with the wishes of his family. the thames barrier will close today for the 200th time since it became operational in 1982. it's the second largest moveable flood barrier in the world — reducing the risk of flooding for up to 640,000 properties. the closure comes as the environment agency warns of increasing sea levels along the thames estuary as a result of climate change. just to say on the subject of climate change, london's mayor sadiq khan will be taking your questions on the expansion of the ultra low emission zone. he'll be on bbc london tonight live at 630. a film made by young people focusing on youth violence and how it affects mental health has won an award at the london international film festival. 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'sick�* was produced by paul mckenzie, co—founder of youth unity — a group which develops projects to help disadvantged young people. he hopes it will help break the stigma around the subject of mental health. let's take a look at the travel situation. this is how tfl services are looking right now. there's a good service on the tubes this morning — apart from minor delays on the metropolitan line 0nto the weather now with kate kinsella. good morning. last night's rainfall totals widely saw 25 to 35 millimetres of rain up until midnight. rainham however saw 53, so a very wet night. this morning, we still could see some rain as the cold front moves south but that will clear up fairly quickly and what it will do is introduce much colder air and we will notice that temperature drop through the course of today. that is our cold front, the rain clearing behind it, and it is dry, we have sunshine, but a brisk north—westerly breeze and that will make things feel chilly. temperatures may be 13 or 14c, significantly chillier than the last few days. 0vernight tonight, we will hang on to the breeze. there is a small chance of a shower blowing down from the north—west but largely dry with clear spells and a minimum temperature dropping to 3c or 4c, so again, a chillier night. we have a ridge of high pressure building in for friday and we start to open up a south—westerly breeze and that will bring in some slightly milder air so the temperature will make a recovery as we head towards the weekend. plenty of dry weather in the forecast, but a few glimpses of sunshine. i'm back with the latest from the bbc london in an hour. plenty more on our website at the usual address now though it's back to charlie and naga. bye for now. good morning and welcome to breakfast with naga munchetty and charlie stayt. we're joined now by health minister, edward argar. thanks for talking to us. i want to talk about what was discussed yesterday by the health secretary, sajid javid. 0ne yesterday by the health secretary, sajid javid. one of the things that came out was the announcement of a new treatment regarding coronavirus being developed which was much lauded. do you want to tell me about that. ., .., . lauded. do you want to tell me about that. ., .. , .,, lauded. do you want to tell me about that. ., , .,, i. that. you can, but i hope your viewers will _ that. you can, but i hope your viewers will forgive _ that. you can, but i hope your viewers will forgive me i that. you can, but i hope your viewers will forgive me if - that. you can, but i hope your viewers will forgive me if i - that. you can, but i hope your i viewers will forgive me if i don't pronounce the names of them all the details. its two new treatments, about 780,000 doses of the antiviral treatments which we have pre— ordered and are going for approvals at the moment which will hopefully only take a few months but it's the same approach we have adopted to vaccines and we think these are extremely promising so we have pre— ordered them and what essentially they do is they inhibit the ability of the virus, if someone catches it, to replicate so significantly limiting the seriousness of the illness and can cause and that means hopefully if somebody takes this at the right point, in the early stages, they won't be hospitalised and they will be significantly less unwell than they would be otherwise. it's another tool in our armoury against the disease alongside the vaccine. , ., ., ., vaccine. there is a lot of speculation _ vaccine. there is a lot of speculation about - vaccine. there is a lot of l speculation about whether vaccine. there is a lot of - speculation about whether plan b, the government's plan b which includes making face coverings mandatory in public places and working from home and covid passports being put in place and individuals to be behaving 7 behaving cautiously and it wasn't on the british medical association has said this decision to not bring in plan b is wilfully negligent. how much attention will you pay to this? marion we don't always agree with each other but i always have huge respect for the bma and i will always listen to what they say but in this context i don't think he's right in the languages using there. we are seeing infections arise and we saw what the secretary of state said yesterday and we are seeing hospitalisations and deaths are rising but at a lower rate. we don't believe that even though the nhs is under real pressure 7 that it is under real pressure 7 that it is under unsustainable pressure and now is not the right moment to look to trigger plan b. i is not the right moment to look to trigger plan b-_ is not the right moment to look to trigger plan b. i know the question will be, trigger plan b. i know the question will be. when _ trigger plan b. i know the question will be, when his? _ trigger plan b. i know the question will be, when his? what— trigger plan b. i know the question will be, when his? what is- will be, when his? what is unsustainable? _ will be, when his? what is unsustainable? what - will be, when his? what is unsustainable? what does will be, when his? what is. unsustainable? what does it will be, when his? what is- unsustainable? what does it look like? , , ., like? let me finish my point and i will come to _ like? let me finish my point and i will come to that. _ like? let me finish my point and i will come to that. i _ like? let me finish my point and i will come to that. i don't - like? let me finish my point and i will come to that. i don't think . will come to that. i don't think it's as simple as a binary thing at this point, exchanging tuwai and it needs to be triggered and there's a whole range of factors you need to consider in terms of hospitalisations and capacity and other factors, hospitalisations and capacity and otherfactors, winter hospitalisations and capacity and other factors, winter flu and when that starts ticking up but to go to sustainability of pressure it is significant and it would be wrong to say it isn't on the staff in the nhs are doing an amazing job at if you look at and 7 bed capacity this is a rough figure and there's about 95,000 beds in total in the nhs at the moment and it's lower than it would be because some have had to be taken out for infection potential control and distancing in clinical settings and of the 94,000 you have about, 7,000 occupied by covid patients, at the peak in february was about 36000 and you have 6,000 empty beds at the moment and they are not evenly distributed and we know how the numbers can rise which is why we are looking at this day by day but at the moment we have that ability to manage but we monitor it hour by hour and day by day and look at it carefully but i'm sorry i can't give you a binary x leads tuwai at a particular point. what tuwai at a particular point. what about if enough _ tuwai at a particular point. what about if enough nhs _ tuwai at a particular point. what about if enough nhs workers say they are understandable 7 unsustainable pressure? are understandable ? unsustainable ressure? ., ., ., pressure? two weeks ago in the reshuffle l _ pressure? two weeks ago in the reshuffle i assumed _ pressure? two weeks ago in the l reshuffle i assumed responsibility for the nhs workforce as well as the nhs more broadly and i knowjust how much pressure nhs staff are under but have been through the past year and a half or two years and at the moment what we are seeing, and i talk every day with the nhs is challenging pressure, but it is manageable, but the single biggest thing we can do to help the nhs and help manage the pressure is get the jabs and about 5,000,000 people are eligible who have not taken up the offer of the vaccine and you have those who have been called for the boosterjabs those who have been called for the booster jabs and those who have been called for the boosterjabs and i say if you are eligible, please take it. find boosterjabs and i say if you are eligible, please take it. and get more staff _ eligible, please take it. and get more staff for _ eligible, please take it. and get more staff for the _ eligible, please take it. and get more staff for the nhs, - eligible, please take it. and get more staff for the nhs, of - eligible, please take it. and get i more staff for the nhs, of course. we have 4,000 more doctors and more 8,000 nurses. hagar we have 4,000 more doctors and more 8.000 nurses-— 8,000 nurses. how many nhs staff are we short? the _ 8,000 nurses. how many nhs staff are we short? the challenge _ 8,000 nurses. how many nhs staff are we short? the challenge with _ 8,000 nurses. how many nhs staff are we short? the challenge with that - we short? the challenge with that auestion is we short? the challenge with that question is and _ we short? the challenge with that question is and an _ we short? the challenge with that question is and an objective - question is and an objective assessment of what is the nhs workforce you need is difficult to reach and what we have said 7 you must have a number. the 50,000 nurses we said we would put in place by the next election during the course of the parliament is what we think is what the nhs needs and we are on track to meet the target but that takes time as you have to recruit and train and we are on track to meet the target and focused on that but it takes time to get there which is why we set it as an objective across the parliament. we have a regular slot with virology us and we were talking about whether face coverings make a difference. irrefutably, of course they do. why don't you tell us that we should be wearing face coverings in public places? what is the harm in not telling us?— places? what is the harm in not tellin: us? ., �* , ., . telling us? you've seen the guidance on this and l— telling us? you've seen the guidance on this and i think _ telling us? you've seen the guidance on this and i think you _ telling us? you've seen the guidance on this and i think you had _ telling us? you've seen the guidance on this and i think you had sarah - on this and i think you had sarah jarvis on earlier he touched on this in some of the other comments she made and at the moment we are clear that in plan b, if we have to go to that, that is where you will see the tougher injunction to wear face coverings and at the moment we are in a position where we think it is right that people pay heed to the guidance that make their own informed educated judgments, particularly in a room that isn't ventilated and is enclosed. i came to your studio this morning and was wearing my face mask and i took it off to speak to you but it is about people using the guidance and using their common sense and judgment and making informed decisions but we have been clear in plan b that that would be the man day shall injunction to do it and it would be there and will be tougher but we don't think we need to move to it at this moment but sajid javid was clear, if we need to move to plan b, we will do at the right point. you are in the — we will do at the right point. you are in the commons this week for prime ministers questions on wednesday, is that correct? i wasn't. i was in a meeting about this. , . ~ , wasn't. i was in a meeting about this. , a' , , wasn't. i was in a meeting about this. , .w , , ., this. this makes this more interesting. _ this. this makes this more interesting. when - this. this makes this more interesting. when you - this. this makes this more | interesting. when you look this. this makes this more i interesting. when you look at this. this makes this more - interesting. when you look at the pictures, one side of the house barely any masks worn and on the other side masks being worn and sajid javid was asked about this yesterday and he said, is there a difference between what the government is telling people to do and the behaviour of some senior public figures and sajid javid said it was a fair point and he said we have a role to play to set an example as private individuals and i think that is a fair point and i'm surea think that is a fair point and i'm sure a lot of people will have heard you. will you be wearing a mask next time you are in the commons? ii you. will you be wearing a mask next time you are in the commons? if you look at health — time you are in the commons? if you look at health questions _ time you are in the commons? if you look at health questions which - time you are in the commons? if m. look at health questions which was on the tuesday, i did when i was sitting on the bench are not answering questions. there will have been times where i didn't where i thought i might ask a question or i would answer one and i forgot to put it back on. but you will have seen in some pictures that i did for a chunk of the sittings, so i try to. do you think your colleagues should? you know, as you said,, it's not a fully ventilated place and there are lots of people sitting around and talking and we know the droplets, they pass the disease, so 7 7 the they pass the disease, so ?? the chamber is _ they pass the disease, so ?? the chamber is a _ they pass the disease, so ?? the chamber is a big _ they pass the disease, so 7? iia: chamber is a big place, and i they pass the disease, so 7? i'ia: chamber is a big place, and i come back to my point which is is about colleagues and everyone considering the guidance and forming an informed view. i know colleagues look at a number of factors but its judgment and the whole purpose of where we got two injuly and the whole purpose of where we got two in july was that this was about people, notjust colleagues, considering those factors and forming their own judgment and trusting to theirjudgment and common sense which is why it is not mandated because we believe people are best placed to make those judgments with the information and to do so. there will be times where, as i say, i will have times where i have done it and didn't. i5 as i say, i will have times where i have done it and didn't.— have done it and didn't. is not aboutiust _ have done it and didn't. is not aboutjust you, _ have done it and didn't. is not about just you, isn't _ have done it and didn't. is not about just you, isn't it - have done it and didn't. is not aboutjust you, isn't it part . have done it and didn't. is not aboutjust you, isn't it part of| have done it and didn't. is not. aboutjust you, isn't it part of the fact that people giving us guidance on what to do and telling us we should behave cautiously, so when the public sees the government telling us which has told us to behave cautiously, shouldn't they be wearing masks? ithink behave cautiously, shouldn't they be wearing masks? i think sajid javid answered that question yesterday. what do you think? it’s answered that question yesterday. what do you think?— what do you think? it's clearly a leadership _ what do you think? it's clearly a leadership role _ what do you think? it's clearly a leadership role for— what do you think? it's clearly a leadership role for members - what do you think? it's clearly a leadership role for members of| leadership role for members of parliament on all sides and in everything we do we need to think about our actions and our words and the implications they have but i think it's for those individual members of parliament to read the guidance and consider it and bear in mind what sajid javid said and reach their own views. man mind what sajid javid said and reach their own views.— mind what sajid javid said and reach their own views. won more questions about boosters _ their own views. won more questions about boosters and _ their own views. won more questions about boosters and third _ their own views. won more questions about boosters and third jabs - their own views. won more questions about boosters and third jabs and - about boosters and third jabs and people being able to get those as well. can you assure that those after a third one they will get them and what efforts are made to ensure that everyone in a care home who is vulnerable is getting a third jabs or booster and do you have an idea of how many have had those in a timely fashion? i0 of how many have had those in a timely fashion?— of how many have had those in a timel fashion? ., i. , timely fashion? to your second point first, i timely fashion? to your second point first. i believe _ timely fashion? to your second point first, i believe the _ timely fashion? to your second point first, i believe the latest _ timely fashion? to your second point first, i believe the latest figure - first, i believe the latest figure is about 45% of those in care homes who have received visits and offer the champ and there is more to do but the primary care teams are the ones going care home to care home to make sure thatjabs go into arms and it's a complicated process and times because you have to make sure there is the six—month gap between these second jab in the first batch and being able to have the boosterjab, so it's not always the case that everyone at one time or get the same boosterjab because some might have beeniu boosterjab because some might have been ill and some minor have the jab at the same time so it's complicated logistics exercise and the primary care teams are going round. your other point i think was about the third jab for those significantly immunocompromised and i think that is something sarahjarvis was talking about which is more complicated because essentially that is about a clinicaljudgment and the way we are doing it via hospitals because they are people who deal with those individuals because the cases are complex, but i took a compliment that peoples instinct will be to ask their gps sol compliment that peoples instinct will be to ask their gps so i will look at whether that connect between gps and hospitals is working as well as it can do. to gps and hospitals is working as well as it can do— as it can do. to be clear, 45% of --eole as it can do. to be clear, 45% of people in _ as it can do. to be clear, 4596 of people in care — as it can do. to be clear, 4596 of people in care homes _ as it can do. to be clear, 4596 of people in care homes have - as it can do. to be clear, 4596 of people in care homes have had. as it can do. to be clear, 4596 of - people in care homes have had their boosterjab or not? the people in care homes have had their boosterjab or not?— booster 'ab or not? the latest fiaure i boosterjab or not? the latest figure i have _ boosterjab or not? the latest figure i have is _ boosterjab or not? the latest figure i have is around - boosterjab or not? the latest figure i have is around 40 - boosterjab or not? the latest figure i have is around 40 or. boosterjab or not? the latest - figure i have is around 40 or 4596. figure i have is around 40 or 45%. that is what i saw a day or two. thank you for your time. now look at the weather with carol. if you've not been out it's a chilly start to the day across most areas and a chilly wind again and it's coming from the north and north—west and as you can see, the blue colours on the chart representing the cold air but it will be short lived because by the weekend we will be into milder conditions. this is a winnerfrom sinking into milder conditions. this is a winner from sinking south and taking the rain with and behind it we have a peppering of showers and some of those been wintry on higher ground as we've gone through the earlier part of the day but we have the remnants to clear so it's not as cold across southern areas and when it goes south the temperatures will go down the tax. still 7 still showers darting around a lot of showers darting around a lot of showers and on a brisk wind and you can see the temperature in glasgow in 5 and we have gales down the north sea coastline so here with whispering tides you can see some overtopping. through the day the showers pack in and they could be wintry as far north as north wales and these are our temperatures, between 17 and i4 and you add on the wind and it will feel colder than that across eastern areas. through the evening and overnight we have clear skies and a lot of showers coming in on the brisk winds and some of those are wintry on higher ground and it will be a cold night again. cold enough in eastern areas forfrost but night again. cold enough in eastern areas for frost but most of us won't have that because the wind will be too strong. into tomorrow the wind will slowly ease and there will be sunshine to start the day but generally speaking more cloud around as well and we are looking at a few showers coming in and some of them getting as far east as the midlands and even into east anglia and the south—east but they will be the exception rather than the rule and with lighter winds we are looking at temperatures of eight up to 14 and won't feel as cold as this afternoon. 0n won't feel as cold as this afternoon. on saturday, eastern areas starting dry on a bright note and we start to see showers arriving in the rain will start coming across northern ireland, eventually getting into western parts of mainland britain and temperatures start to recover. in aberdeen we are looking at 12 and up to 15 in london. that rain will cross during the part of saturday to sunday and by the time against the easter week affair and it will turn showery but then we have a packet of showers behind it into western areas but again, temperatures between 12 and i6 . into the new week, the outlook remains fairly changeable with rain at times. (many children dream of becoming footballers but five—year—old zayn is one step closer to making that happen. known to his friends as "little messi", he's was head—hunted by arsenal at the age of four — and is the youngest child in their pre—academy squad. let's take a look at him on the pitch. match of the day theme. love the music. brings back memories. zaynjoins us in the studio with his dad, ali and his mentor and football coach, stephen deans in north london. i warned you, ali, the moment that zayn sees himself on the television, he won't be able to keep his eyes off himself. there you go. also with us is stephen deans in north london. a big thumbs up to you. good morning- _ a big thumbs up to you. good morning. how _ a big thumbs up to you. good morning. how has _ a big thumbs up to you. good morning. how has this - a big thumbs up to you. good morning. how has this come l a big thumbs up to you. good - morning. how has this come about? you must be — morning. how has this come about? you must be delighted. _ morning. how has this come about? you must be delighted. it _ morning. how has this come about? you must be delighted. itjust - you must be delighted. it 'ust escalated so i you must be delighted. it 'ust escalated so quickly. �* you must be delighted. itjust l escalated so quickly. obviously, taking in local grassroots teams and then he caught a lot of attention because of his age and how young he is, itjust happened so quickly and it's been amazing. 50. is, itjust happened so quickly and it's been amazing.— it's been amazing. so, zayn, tell me, it's been amazing. so, zayn, tell me. what _ it's been amazing. so, zayn, tell me. what are — it's been amazing. so, zayn, tell me, what are you _ it's been amazing. so, zayn, tell me, what are you good - it's been amazing. so, zayn, tell me, what are you good at - it's been amazing. so, zayn, tell me, what are you good at on - it's been amazing. so, zayn, tell me, what are you good at on the football pitch? what is your favourite movie?- football pitch? what is your - favourite movie?_ which favourite movie? dribbling. which foot do you _ favourite movie? dribbling. which foot do you dribble _ favourite movie? dribbling. which foot do you dribble with _ favourite movie? dribbling. which foot do you dribble with best? - favourite movie? dribbling. which| foot do you dribble with best? the left. so a strong _ foot do you dribble with best? the left. so a strong left _ foot do you dribble with best? the left. so a strong left foot. - foot do you dribble with best? the left. so a strong left foot. let's i left. so a strong left foot. let's find out how — left. so a strong left foot. let's find out how strong _ left. so a strong left foot. let's find out how strong it - left. so a strong left foot. let's find out how strong it is. i i left. so a strong left foot. let's| find out how strong it is. i don't know, is this typical, that a four—year—old, with a five—year—old may be in the pre— academy? this four-year-old, with a five-year-old may be in the pre- academy? this boy is su er may be in the pre- academy? this boy is super talented. _ may be in the pre- academy? this boy is super talented. super-talented. i is super talented. super—talented. and the best thing about this boy is his mind—set. when he arrives on the pitch, he looks around, looks to the left and right and he will look to the biggest corner and where the biggest boys are and he will say to the coaches, i want to go in that group and be over there with the big boys and we have to say,, you work your way up but the way his brain is, he believes he can do anything and that's the most important thing, he believes he can do whatever it is and he will try anything with the ball at his feet, which makes him great. i ball at his feet, which makes him areat. , ., , ball at his feet, which makes him .reat. , ., �* great. i can tell you this. i don't know if you _ great. i can tell you this. i don't know if you can _ great. i can tell you this. i don't know if you can see _ great. i can tell you this. i don't know if you can see the - great. i can tell you this. i don't know if you can see the studio, | great. i can tell you this. i don't i know if you can see the studio, but zayn was not listening to a word we said, but as soon as he heard you talking, he got on the back of the sofa and was listening, so there is anything you would like to say, because he is listening and you can see stephen, can't you? i because he is listening and you can see stephen, can't you?— because he is listening and you can see stephen, can't you? i would like to sa , see stephen, can't you? i would like to say. you — see stephen, can't you? i would like to say. you are _ see stephen, can't you? i would like to say. you are a _ see stephen, can't you? i would like to say, you are a superstar - see stephen, can't you? i would like to say, you are a superstar and i see stephen, can't you? i would like to say, you are a superstar and you. to say, you are a superstar and you keep going, champion.— to say, you are a superstar and you i keep going, champion._ how keep going, champion. thank you. how is that? what — keep going, champion. thank you. how is that? what is _ keep going, champion. thank you. how is that? what is stephen _ keep going, champion. thank you. how is that? what is stephen -like - keep going, champion. thank you. how is that? what is stephen -like as i keep going, champion. thank you. how is that? what is stephen -like as a i is that? what is stephen —like as a coach or mentor? what is good about stephen? ihe coach or mentor? what is good about stehen? .. , coach or mentor? what is good about stehen? . , , coach or mentor? what is good about stephen?_ what - coach or mentor? what is good about stephen?_ what is i coach or mentor? what is good about stephen?_ what is he | stephen? he coaches us. what is he like when he — stephen? he coaches us. what is he like when he is _ stephen? he coaches us. what is he like when he is coaching _ stephen? he coaches us. what is he like when he is coaching you? is i stephen? he coaches us. what is he like when he is coaching you? is he. like when he is coaching you? is he fun? does he make fun games out of it? , do ou fun? does he make fun games out of it? yes. do you want to help us with this one guest _ it? yes. do you want to help us with this one quest might tell us how it works. i'm imagining anyone who has been with a bunch of young people and a football pitch, it's a pretty competitive environment and everyone is trying to shine, so what is it like on the pitch? to is trying to shine, so what is it like on the pitch?— is trying to shine, so what is it like on the pitch? to be honest, with my son. — like on the pitch? to be honest, with my son, he's _ like on the pitch? to be honest, with my son, he's very - like on the pitch? to be honest, with my son, he's very much i like on the pitch? to be honest, | with my son, he's very much like nothing fazes him and he gets on the pitch, the bigger they are, the more it drives him and he thrives on that. so stephen has been unbelievable with protecting that and pushing it as well, his confidence, so, yeah, it's been good. confidence, so, yeah, it's been aood. ~ . confidence, so, yeah, it's been aood. ~ , , ., ., confidence, so, yeah, it's been nood.~ , ., , , good. well, we wish you all the best in the future — good. well, we wish you all the best in the future and _ good. well, we wish you all the best in the future and no _ good. well, we wish you all the best in the future and no doubt _ good. well, we wish you all the best in the future and no doubt we i good. well, we wish you all the best in the future and no doubt we will i in the future and no doubt we will see zayn in the future as well. you look after yourself and zayn. thank ou for look after yourself and zayn. thank you for having _ look after yourself and zayn. thank you for having me. _ look after yourself and zayn. thank you for having me. i'd _ look after yourself and zayn. thank you for having me. i'd tell- look after yourself and zayn. thank you for having me. i'd tell you i you for having me. i'd tell you what, you for having me. i'd tell you what. zayn. — you for having me. i'd tell you what, zayn, what _ you for having me. i'd tell you what, zayn, what you - you for having me. i'd tell you what, zayn, what you will- you for having me. i'd tell you what, zayn, what you will do i you for having me. i'd tell you | what, zayn, what you will do is you for having me. i'd tell you i what, zayn, what you will do is you will do your talking with your feet, not so much with the charting. we get that. it is a weird environment to be in. often the safest way. dad is laughing now. who can forget the agony of the united kingdom's eurovision entry last year when james newman's song embers — was the only act to end the night with nul points. i remember talking to him and he was such a lovely guy. there was politics involved, come on. no uk entry has made the top ten since jade ewen in 2009, but it's hoped the team behind pop stars like dua lipa and lana del rey can change that, as steve holden reports. # out of the embers, you and i are going to light up the room. # out of the embers, there's a fire burning 7 and the united kingdom. zero points. james newman received the dreaded nil points at this year's contest in rotterdam. # bigger than everything we see... it was the uk's second last place finish in a row after michael rice also came bottom in the previous event in 2019. and if we're honest, british results this entire millennium have not been great. duo gemini, kick—started the miserable run back in 2003, their song cry baby ended with a big fat zero. music. # love, shine a light to every corner of the world. you have to go back to 1997 to find the uk's last eurovision winner, katrina and the waves, with love shine a light, but a lot has changed since then. 183 million people watched this year's event, and eurovision is now a huge, slick affair with many countries sending their biggest acts, and the performance matters as much as the song. to try to find success once again, the bbc are looking to the team behind two of the uk's biggest pop stars, dua lipa and ellie goulding, both who have dozens of hit songs between them, and managed by tap music. the company is coming on board to find the acts who will represent the uk at next year's eurovision and the song they will sing. the bbc says it wants tap's experience managing world—class artists and finding international hits. the last thing it wants is another rock bottom result. and it can be worth the effort. just look at the winners of this year's contest. music. italian rock band maneskin have gone on to top global streaming charts. too many countries, the uk has one of the most vibrant and successful music scenes in the world and uk eurovision fans are hoping there is a winner out there somewhere. steve holden, bbc news. let's speak now to alasdair rendall who's president of the world's biggest eurovision fan club. good morning. so,, it didn't go well last time. that is the horrible truth. it wasn't comfortable. yeah, it was disappointing. _ truth. it wasn't comfortable. yeah, it was disappointing. poor - truth. it wasn't comfortable. yeah, it was disappointing. poorjames, i truth. it wasn't comfortable. yeah, | it was disappointing. poorjames, as you said in the set up, he is a lovely guy but the song was not strong enough, unfortunately. sadly, we've been here _ strong enough, unfortunately. sadly, we've been here before _ strong enough, unfortunately. sadly, we've been here before about - strong enough, unfortunately. sadly, we've been here before about hoping we've been here before about hoping we can do something and make it better, so this time round, what might be different? we have some serious calibre people involved as number one. i’m serious calibre people involved as number one-— number one. i'm cautiously optimistic _ number one. i'm cautiously optimistic about _ number one. i'm cautiously optimistic about the - number one. i'm cautiously - optimistic about the announcement number one. i'm cautiously _ optimistic about the announcement of how we will be choosing the song for next year in italy. but we've had false dawns before and we had the reintroduction of the national final a few years ago and the tie—up with the record label recently and neither of which led to great success. at the end of the day it doesn't matter which route is taken. we need to find a great song with a great singer and a great performance. obviously having a real industry experts involved will be crucial. at the end of the day, it is a song contest.— crucial. at the end of the day, it is a song contest. how much do the olitics is a song contest. how much do the politics get — is a song contest. how much do the politics get involved _ is a song contest. how much do the politics get involved in _ is a song contest. how much do the politics get involved in this, - is a song contest. how much do the politics get involved in this, in i politics get involved in this, in all honesty?— politics get involved in this, in allhones ? , i, i, all honesty? very little at all. the reason the _ all honesty? very little at all. the reason the uk _ all honesty? very little at all. the reason the uk hasn't _ all honesty? very little at all. the reason the uk hasn't done - all honesty? very little at all. the reason the uk hasn't done well i all honesty? very little at all. the l reason the uk hasn't done well over the last few years is simply our songs have not been good enough. if you look at the countries that have done well recently, italy, the netherlands, they are not countries that have a natural bigger voting bloc, they'vejust that have a natural bigger voting bloc, they've just sent a good song that has rightly won and we focus too much on things like politics and make excuses for the fact that quite simply the songs we have been sending have not cut the mustard. what kind of sound is a successful sound to get a variety ofjudges and a load of different countries engaged?— a load of different countries enauaed? �*, ., ., a load of different countries enauaed? v . . engaged? it's important that you cannot ut engaged? it's important that you cannot put your _ engaged? it's important that you cannot put your finger _ engaged? it's important that you cannot put your finger on - engaged? it's important that you cannot put your finger on it. - engaged? it's important that you | cannot put your finger on it. quite cannot put yourfinger on it. quite often we try too hard to find a typical eurovision song and there is no such thing. if you look at the songs that have won recently, they just need to have something that stands out because the television voters are watching on the night and it has to be something that cuts through the others and has broad appeal and that is that distinctive and one that needs to stand out. you don't want to be to say. often the uk songs have been a little bit too pleasant and middle—of—the—road but instantly forgettable, so something that has a memorable hook and will stand out. . ~ that has a memorable hook and will stand out. . . , , ., stand out. nice catching up with you and we will — stand out. nice catching up with you and we will see _ stand out. nice catching up with you and we will see what _ stand out. nice catching up with you and we will see what happens. - stand out. nice catching up with you| and we will see what happens. thank you very much. the headlines are coming up. good morning. welcome to breakfast with naga munchetty and charlie stayt. our headlines today... the government is under mounting pressure to reintroduce coronavirus restrictions in england, with doctors accusing ministers of being "wilfully negligent." mps ask police forces to urgently assess the scale of the problem with women being spiked with needles in nightclubs. and we catch up with three fathers, who are inspiring people to open up and talk, as they approach the finish line of a 300—mile walk to raise awareness of suicide in young people. good morning. could rules be about to change allowing foreign drivers to change allowing foreign drivers to make more deliveries in the uk? could it block plans to upscale british workers. it's ronaldo to the rescue once again. the manchester united striker, caps off, another astonishing champions league come back, this time to beat atalanta and it eases the pressure on the united manager. good morning. a chilly start to the day and a chilly day per se. when is, a lot of sunshine and a few showers coming in from the north—west. gail stunned the north sea coastline. the details later in the programme will stop —— gales down. it's thursday the 21st october. our main story. pressure is growing on the government to re—impose some covid restrictions in england, amid a surge in cases. it comes as the british medical association has accused ministers of being "wilfully negligent." it says measures such as compulsory face coverings and social distancing should be brought back in now, to protect the nhs as we head into the winter months. here's our political correspondent, jonathan blake. the nhs under pressure. staff and resources always strained as winter approaches, but as covid admissions rise, doctors warn it could become unbearable. the government should be making sure that the public are expected and required to follow simple infection control measures, such as the wearing of masks in indoor public settings, including public transport. now is the time to act. we have enough evidence that this a trajectory heading in the wrong direction. yesterday, the health secretary acknowledged things would get worse. 100,000 cases per day, he warned. and unless people took precautions, ministers would have to act. am i saying that if we don't do our bit, get vaccinated, you know, all of those behavioural changes that we can make, that we are more likely to face restrictions as we head into winter, then i am saying that. i think we have been really clear that we've all got a role to play. for now, the government is holding firm and says it's not yet time to take further measures. moving to the government's plan b in england would make face coverings mandatory in some settings. people would be asked to work from home, and vaccine passports introduced. in northern ireland, face coverings remain a legal requirement in crowded indoor spaces. it's the same for masks in wales, where proof of vaccination is needed in nightclubs and people are asked to work from home. scotland's strategy similarly includes vaccine passports and face masks are required in schools and some other settings. for now, the focus at westminster is urging those not yet vaccinated to come forward, and getting booster jabs to those eligible. but doctors say it's wilfully negligent of ministers not to take further steps, and pressure on the health service is likely only to increase in the coming weeks. jonathan blake, bbc news. let's get more now from our political correspondent chris mason. it has been really interesting, hasn't it? we had from sajid javid yesterday, the pressure about implementing plan b, part of which you could say has already been a bit implemented. you could say has already been a bit implemented-— implemented. good morning. interesting — implemented. good morning. interesting when _ implemented. good morning. interesting when you - implemented. good morning. interesting when you look - implemented. good morning. interesting when you look at l implemented. good morning. i interesting when you look at the plan b plan which was set out in the autumn and winter ideals the government was setting out about how it would approach the coming months, they set out a month ago. when you look back at what plan b amounted to, there was one element of voluntary ideas and to things which could compel. the voluntary id was a government saying we need to be cautious because things are not looking as good as they were and therefore voluntarily you might choose to be a bit more careful. strands two and three are face coverings in crowded public places and covid vaccine passports. the first rounder plan b was implemented yesterday. but as we had been reporting, there has been clamour from doctors leaders and others they should be more done right now. the government is clearly cautious and aware that cases are going in the wrong direction in england but does not really want to have to restrict our liberties again. what are they weighing up when they are making these decisions? here is the health minister here on breakfast in the last half—an—hour. you minister here on breakfast in the last half-an-hour._ minister here on breakfast in the last half-an-hour. you have about 95,000 last half-an-hour. you have about 95.000 beds — last half-an-hour. you have about 95,000 beds and _ last half-an-hour. you have about 95,000 beds and hotel— last half-an-hour. you have about 95,000 beds and hotel in - last half-an-hour. you have about 95,000 beds and hotel in the - last half-an-hour. you have aboutj 95,000 beds and hotel in the nhs last half-an-hour. you have about i 95,000 beds and hotel in the nhs at the moment. lowerthan it 95,000 beds and hotel in the nhs at the moment. lower than it normally would _ the moment. lower than it normally would be _ the moment. lower than it normally would be because some have had to be taken _ would be because some have had to be taken out _ would be because some have had to be taken out for _ would be because some have had to be taken out for infection prevention control_ taken out for infection prevention control and clinical settings. of those _ control and clinical settings. of those 90 — control and clinical settings. of those 90 5000, 7000 are occupied by covid patients. it has 6000 empty beds at _ covid patients. it has 6000 empty beds at the moment. they are not evenly— beds at the moment. they are not evenly distributed and we know how the numbers can rise swiftly, which is why— the numbers can rise swiftly, which is why we _ the numbers can rise swiftly, which is why we are looking at this day by day, hour— is why we are looking at this day by day, hour by— is why we are looking at this day by day, hour by hour. at the moment we have the _ day, hour by hour. at the moment we have the ability to manage. effectively what the government is saying is cases are going up but the vaccines are having a big effect in if not breaking but limiting the link between cases, hospitalisations and bluntly deaths. they feel there is no need to act yet. the truth is england is an outlier in the broader uk, asjonathan was reporting a few minutes ago. measures do still exist in scotland, wales and northern ireland which do not exist in england. politically it is arguably harder to slam the car into reverse and go back towards implementing measures that have already been removed as opposed to leaving some measures in place. there could be some tricky decisions ahead. thank you very much for that. now for a look at the weather. i listen carefully to what you say. the phrase he says sometimes is blowing a hoolie, aren't you? i did not deliver it very well! it is windy out there, isn't it? it is, absolutely- — windy out there, isn't it? it is, absolutely. yes, _ windy out there, isn't it? it is, absolutely. yes, charlie i windy out there, isn't it? it is, absolutely. yes, charlie is i windy out there, isn't it? it is, i absolutely. yes, charlie is quite right. it is windy and chilly wind as well. it is coming from the north—west and bringing a lot of showers with it. what we have today is a bit of rain coming south. this is a bit of rain coming south. this is a bit of rain coming south. this is a weak weather front which will continue to eventually push away. behind it will be a lot of sunshine. it is already in place across much of the uk and will filter further south as we go through the course of the morning. some of the showers are wintry but only on higher ground. also gales on the north sea coastline. here is the chance of some overtopping. temperature six to 14 some overtopping. temperature six to iii degrees but tempered by the wind. this evening and overnight there will be clear skies, also showers and rain crossing the far east of scotland. still winds and it would be cold. in sheltered eastern areas it will be cold enough for frost. in the east it will not be the case because it is too windy. tomorrow we will have a wintry start. a fair bit of cloud coming in and still some shadow temperatures eight to iii but not feeling as cold because it went bs windy. my earpiece fell out, so i willjust put it back in in you say anything me. that is it for the weather for now.— weather for now. that is what ha--ens weather for now. that is what happens when _ weather for now. that is what happens when it _ weather for now. that is what happens when it blows i weather for now. that is what i happens when it blows hhh-hoo in weather for now. that is what - happens when it blows hhh-hoo in the happens when it blows hhh—hoo in the studio! no one noticed. see you later. mike will have the sport later on. the home secretary, priti patel, has asked police for an update on so—called "spiking," following a spate of reports of women being injected with drugs on nights out. it comes as nearly 150,000 people have signed a petition calling on the government to make searches at bars and clubs mandatory. fi lamdin has been speaking to students. miranda's drink was spiked after a night out in leeds. after a few sips, she felt unwell and asked for help. it makes me feel deeply frightened because all i kept thinking that night when i was sort of going in and out of consciousness, i was feeling like i was going to die, you know? and sadly it wasn't taken seriously. but a0 miles away in sheffield, this bar certainly is. they already have anti—spiking measures in place. bars were aware of it but they didn't really want to shout about it, it was a negative connotation towards their night out and i think bars, like, were thinking, that's not good for business. i think there's been a shift in realising that if this isn't snuffed out and taken care of soon, then it could cause bigger problems down the line for the whole industry. spiking, whether it be putting drugs in people's drinks or injecting victims directly is all causing so much concern that here in bristol many people are boycotting pubs and clubs next wednesday, joining the national campaign, girls night in. all of my male friends in my social group all feel the same way and two of my best mates are both girls and two of them have been spiked and i feel very scared for them. you hear about it every day. you want people that you love and you like to be safe. it is a scary time. just in solidarity, i think all of us will be doing a strike. like alex's friend, alana. a third—year student at bristol university. three weeks ago, she was spiked on a night out. i basically got spiked at a nightclub in bristol. i only knew it happened, like, when i saw the videos of it. looking back on it, i could have predicted it happening. luckily i was with friends, like, so basically, looking back on it, this guy spiked me and the moment i told him, "i'm with my boyfriend." so he asked me if i wanted to dance with him. the moment i was like, "i'm with my boyfriend," he left me completely. an hour later, i went back home and it hit. i was completely paralysed. she was unable to move. her boyfriend filmed this footage, which she wanted us to broadcast. go to bed. alana has since been back to talk to the club. what they could do, even putting lids on cups, like they do in takeaway coffee cups, just could prevent spiking so much. i feel like the fact they don't is just shocking. and it was a similar story for immy — a fourth—year student. i believe i have had my drink spiked. a lot of girls are really tentative to say that. what are you now doing to protect yourself? i am wearing a denim jacket because i've heard it is harder for the needles to pierce through the denim. aside from that, it'sjust kind of trying to be as wary as possible, looking out for female friends and making sure they get home safe, stuff like that, which has always been important to me. will it stop you going out? yeah, 100%, 100%. i'd rather stay in when i know i'm safe or do something _ at home with my friends. knowing no—one is going to do anything there. i do you know what i mean? it is notjust in england. in scotland, they are also joining next wednesday's boycott. we just genuinely believe that if security is not going to be taken seriously when it comes to women, especially with spiking in nightclubs, then we simply will not turn up and show we make up a large percentage of people who attend nightlife. without us, what are venues going to do? for weeks, many victims say they feel they've been ignored. finally, the industry and the police seem to be listening. fiona lamdin, bbc news. let's speak to two victims of spiking. molly robinson is with us in the studio and sarah buckle joins us from nottingham. sarah, good morning. i'm going to establish, and none of this is easy to talk about that but is brilliant if you are talking about it. you talking about it, as we have seen, lots of other people are coming forward and saying, this is happening to me and authorities had to act, night venues had to act. tell me what happened to you? i was spiked at my student accommodation at a flat party on my second day of freshers, my second day of moving to university. the only information i haveis university. the only information i have is what my housemates and friends told me the days after because i have no memory of night whatsoever. which is quite terrifying and daunting experience in itself. i remember making dinner early on in the evening and that is it. my friends told me i was separated from them and after an hour or so they went back to the house to see if i was there and they found me completely sorted unintelligible, like passed out on my bed. i was unable to walk at that point in time. and they said, the state that i was in when they lastl me and the state i was in when they found me was completely incomparable. and completely inconsistent. the very little amount of alcohol i had consumed earlier on in the evening. of alcohol i had consumed earlier on in the evening-— in the evening. have you been able to establish — in the evening. have you been able to establish in _ in the evening. have you been able to establish in any _ in the evening. have you been able to establish in any way _ in the evening. have you been able to establish in any way what - in the evening. have you been able to establish in any way what might| to establish in any way what might have happened? whether any have happened ? whether any toxicology have happened? whether any toxicology reports? what did do next? 50 toxicology reports? what did do next? ., , , toxicology reports? what did do next? ., , ., next? so actually, the days after word i felt _ next? so actually, the days after word i felt very _ next? so actually, the days after word i felt very fragile, - next? so actually, the days after| word i felt very fragile, especially the morning after. ifelt word i felt very fragile, especially the morning after. i felt physically unwell. i was shaking a considerable amount and ifelt unwell. i was shaking a considerable amount and i felt lots of different mental emotions. i was very actually embarrassed. that was my first initial reaction will stop people i just met, it was a second day of meeting them, seeing me in that state, i was very embarrassed and upset by it. obviously not knowing what happened in the hours i was missing is a very scary idea. i actually did not report it because i was actually working through that in my mind. was actually working through that in m mind. ~ . .,, was actually working through that in m mind. ~ ., was actually working through that in mmind. ., , was actually working through that in m mind. ., , . m my mind. what has happened since? my friends, m my mind. what has happened since? my friends. my family _ my mind. what has happened since? my friends, my family and _ my mind. what has happened since? my friends, my family and my _ my mind. what has happened since? my friends, my family and my partner i friends, my family and my partner have been very, very supportive and told me it is not my fault. it could have happened to absolutely anyone. whether i was... i don't personally because he much alcohol but whether i had or didn't is completely irrelevant.— i had or didn't is completely irrelevant. , ., ,, , irrelevant. yes. thank you, molly, for sharing — irrelevant. yes. thank you, molly, for sharing your _ irrelevant. yes. thank you, molly, for sharing your story. _ irrelevant. yes. thank you, molly, for sharing your story. sarah, i i irrelevant. yes. thank you, molly, j for sharing your story. sarah, i am sure you are listening as molly was telling us what happened here. yours was different. un needle spiked. tell what you are comfortable with about what happened? it tell what you are comfortable with about what happened?— tell what you are comfortable with about what happened? it was a night out and we went _ about what happened? it was a night out and we went to _ about what happened? it was a night out and we went to a _ about what happened? it was a night out and we went to a city _ about what happened? it was a night out and we went to a city centre i out and we went to a city centre cluh _ out and we went to a city centre cluh i_ out and we went to a city centre club. i remembervery little. i remember— club. i remembervery little. i remembergoing club. i remembervery little. i remember going to the bathroom, the dance _ remember going to the bathroom, the dance floor— remember going to the bathroom, the dance floor are meeting up with other— dance floor are meeting up with other friends at a bar. essentially i do not _ other friends at a bar. essentially i do not remember anything till about— i do not remember anything till about 9am in hospital. i think i was in hospital— about 9am in hospital. i think i was in hospital for around ten hours, which _ in hospital for around ten hours, which is — in hospital for around ten hours, which is crazy to me. my friends 'ust which is crazy to me. my friends just said. — which is crazy to me. my friends just said, out of nowhere, i stopped being _ just said, out of nowhere, i stopped being able _ just said, out of nowhere, i stopped being able to talk. i was trying to type something on my phone to them. whether— type something on my phone to them. whether i_ type something on my phone to them. whether i remember something happening in that moment, i am not sure _ happening in that moment, i am not sure then_ happening in that moment, i am not sure then i— happening in that moment, i am not sure. then i was unable to stand up and eventually we needed to leave the cluh _ and eventually we needed to leave the cluh i— and eventually we needed to leave the club. i was carried out of the cluh _ the club. i was carried out of the cluh in — the club. i was carried out of the cluh in the _ the club. i was carried out of the club. in the taxi on the way back to the house. — club. in the taxi on the way back to the house. i— club. in the taxi on the way back to the house, iwas club. in the taxi on the way back to the house, i was really, club. in the taxi on the way back to the house, iwas really, really violently— the house, iwas really, really violently sick and apparently i was screaming — violently sick and apparently i was screaming as well and losing consciousness. just not howl screaming as well and losing consciousness. just not how i would have been— consciousness. just not how i would have been if— consciousness. just not how i would have been if i was really intoxicated. my friends could tell it was— intoxicated. my friends could tell it was completely different. they called _ it was completely different. they called the ambulance from the taxi, it was— called the ambulance from the taxi, it wasiust _ called the ambulance from the taxi, it wasjust about called the ambulance from the taxi, it was just about a five—minute ride _ it was just about a five—minute ride that— it was just about a five—minute ride. that is how significant it was — ride. that is how significant it was. while we waiting for the ambulance, i was actually choking. ambulance, ! was actually choking. then— ambulance, i was actually choking. then the _ ambulance, i was actually choking. then the ambulance took me to the hospital~ _ then the ambulance took me to the hospital. apparently i was talking a lot in— hospital. apparently i was talking a lot in the _ hospital. apparently i was talking a lot in the hospital but i do not remember this. lot in the hospital but i do not rememberthis. i do lot in the hospital but i do not remember this. i do not remember anything _ remember this. i do not remember anything really tell 9am, which is 'ust anything really tell 9am, which is just insane that my memory was gone for that— just insane that my memory was gone for that long. i really don't know. sarah, _ for that long. i really don't know. sarah, as— for that long. i really don't know. sarah, as he _ for that long. i really don't know. sarah, as he spoke to molly, how long until you've figured out what had happened? what was the hospital saying to you in terms of also whether or not you could report this? ., , ., this? so... kind of when i started bein: this? so... kind of when i started being aware _ this? so... kind of when i started being aware of— this? so... kind of when i started being aware of what _ this? so... kind of when i started being aware of what was - this? so... kind of when i started being aware of what was going i this? so... kind of when i started l being aware of what was going on, obviously— being aware of what was going on, obviously i — being aware of what was going on, obviously i wasjust being aware of what was going on, obviously i was just a complete state _ obviously i was just a complete state physically. i was covered in sick, _ state physically. i was covered in sick, which — state physically. i was covered in sick, which is obviously not nice. it was _ sick, which is obviously not nice. it was not — sick, which is obviously not nice. it was not like a hangover. the feeling — it was not like a hangover. the feeling was completely different. it was like _ feeling was completely different. it was like i— feeling was completely different. it was like i had no energy. iwas constantly— was like i had no energy. iwas constantly shaking and i was 40 days _ constantly shaking and i was 40 days it — constantly shaking and i was 40 days. it was clear that clearly i have _ days. it was clear that clearly i have been— days. it was clear that clearly i have been spiked. especially as the loss was— have been spiked. especially as the loss was so— have been spiked. especially as the loss was so extreme. i don't know if i said _ loss was so extreme. i don't know if i said to _ loss was so extreme. i don't know if i said to the — loss was so extreme. i don't know if i said to the nurses at a point which — i said to the nurses at a point which i — i said to the nurses at a point which i now don't remember or if they— which i now don't remember or if they told — which i now don't remember or if they told me but we kinda figured out nry— they told me but we kinda figured out my was absolutely throbbing and there was— out my was absolutely throbbing and there was something developing where there was something developing where the pinprick had happened. they had not done _ the pinprick had happened. they had not done any tests will stop that was a _ not done any tests will stop that was a real— not done any tests will stop that was a real concern. at this point, i think— was a real concern. at this point, i think i— was a real concern. at this point, i think i was— was a real concern. at this point, i think i was the first person to report— think i was the first person to report something like this and the first person the hospital had kind of dealt — first person the hospital had kind of dealt with. we were really confused. it was what we expected, a suspected _ confused. it was what we expected, a suspected incident. i did contact the police. iwas suspected incident. i did contact the police. i was not out of hospital— the police. i was not out of hospital till midday. i was trying to contact— hospital till midday. i was trying to contact my family and rest. the police _ to contact my family and rest. the police did — to contact my family and rest. the police did not do tests until two days— police did not do tests until two days after the incident. i did not contact — days after the incident. i did not contact them till then. i would have assumed _ contact them till then. i would have assumed the hospital would have contacted the police. i do not think they are _ contacted the police. i do not think they are allowed to do that. that would _ they are allowed to do that. that would have how to get more accurate test. ., . , ., would have how to get more accurate test. ., ., i. .., ., test. how are you recovering now? we're hearing — test. how are you recovering now? we're hearing from _ test. how are you recovering now? we're hearing from lots _ test. how are you recovering now? we're hearing from lots of- test. how are you recovering now? j we're hearing from lots of women, molly was saying, she is getting support from friends, family and her partner. this shakes you and is terrifying. how do you live now in terms of when you go out or if you go out now? i terms of when you go out or if you go out now?— terms of when you go out or if you go out now? i have been out a few times since _ go out now? i have been out a few times since and _ go out now? i have been out a few times since and watch _ go out now? i have been out a few times since and watch what - go out now? i have been out a few times since and watch what i i go out now? i have been out a few times since and watch what i have | times since and watch what i have been _ times since and watch what i have been drinking. some nights i am sober— been drinking. some nights i am sober and — been drinking. some nights i am sober and other nights it is literatiy— sober and other nights it is literally one or two drinks. i realise _ literally one or two drinks. i realise i— literally one or two drinks. i realise i am still so nervous and terrified — realise i am still so nervous and terrified for everybody because when you are _ terrified for everybody because when you are in _ terrified for everybody because when you are in a — terrified for everybody because when you are in a busy club and everybody is you are in a busy club and everybody is knocking _ you are in a busy club and everybody is knocking into you, it is part of the experience and you realise it really _ the experience and you realise it really does not matter how much you drink and _ really does not matter how much you drink and that you are just as easy a target, — drink and that you are just as easy a target, i— drink and that you are just as easy a target, i guess. still really not knowing — a target, i guess. still really not knowing what is going on, at the end of the _ knowing what is going on, at the end of the day— knowing what is going on, at the end of the day i _ knowing what is going on, at the end of the day i fully support the movement to get more searches. i think— movement to get more searches. i think that _ movement to get more searches. i think that is _ movement to get more searches. i think that is an excellent deterrent that if— think that is an excellent deterrent that if people still want they could sneak— that if people still want they could sneak things in. there are places you cannot — sneak things in. there are places you cannot search. how can we watch our whole _ you cannot search. how can we watch our whole bodies in a busy club? it is unfathomable. how can we protect against _ is unfathomable. how can we protect against that? it is completely terrifying. i would against that? it is completely terrifying. iwould not against that? it is completely terrifying. i would not go out with people _ terrifying. i would not go out with people who are not close to me which is a shame _ people who are not close to me which is a shame because half the experiences meeting new people and ”oil"! experiences meeting new people and going to _ experiences meeting new people and going to societies and things that i would _ going to societies and things that i would one — going to societies and things that i would one to make sure they had my family's— would one to make sure they had my family's contact numbers and knew where _ family's contact numbers and knew where i— family's contact numbers and knew where i lived.— where i lived. yvette cooper, chair ofthe where i lived. yvette cooper, chair of the home _ where i lived. yvette cooper, chair of the home affairs _ where i lived. yvette cooper, chair of the home affairs select - of the home affairs select committee, we are going to speak to now. i hope... morning, sarah. very brave to speak out and say as it is. what we are hearing this morning is the lengths that young women are going to, wearing mikke clothing when they go out. watching the drinks meticulously, maybe they have got used to overtime. this is a real problem which is having very tangible effects on people and it seems as if no one had been talking about it before. i seems as if no one had been talking about it before.— about it before. i think this is very serious. _ about it before. i think this is very serious. we _ about it before. i think this is very serious. we just - about it before. i think this is very serious. we just heard l about it before. i think this is l very serious. we just heard the awful experiences that sarah and molly had described to us and thank you to both of you for doing that and for speaking out. these are vile crimes got really dangerous crimes. this is about poisoning people, about putting people's health and ultimately lives at risk. these are extremely serious crimes and had to be taken much more seriously by the police, nightclubs, the community and all of this because it is deeply unfairfor and all of this because it is deeply unfair for young and all of this because it is deeply unfairfor young women in particular to have to deal with this and having to have to deal with this and having to worry themselves about what kind of precautions they need to take when actually it is a responsibility on the venues, the police and everybody else to make sure these crimes cannot happen. can everybody else to make sure these crimes cannot happen.— everybody else to make sure these crimes cannot happen. can we break down kind of— crimes cannot happen. can we break down kind of the _ crimes cannot happen. can we break down kind of the fact _ crimes cannot happen. can we break down kind of the fact that _ crimes cannot happen. can we break down kind of the fact that these i down kind of the fact that these crimes now have to be acknowledged and assessed and in terms of numbers and assessed and in terms of numbers and actioned? we're getting some numbers through from the metropolitan police and various police forces. how quickly and how much pressure need to put on them to say we this is a problem? hide much pressure need to put on them to say we this is a problem?— say we this is a problem? we have asked police _ say we this is a problem? we have asked police forces _ say we this is a problem? we have asked police forces across - say we this is a problem? we have asked police forces across the i asked police forces across the country to provide us with information both about this local injection spiky but also about drink spiking on the problem more widely. my spiking on the problem more widely. my concern is they do not have proper assessment of the scale of the problem, partly because often people do not report. it is hard to report, it is not made easy to report, it is not made easy to report, partly because there is not proper work being damned between police forces and amd is for example to try to identify the scale of the problem of proper work being done with nightclubs, student groups and organisations to try to assess the scale of the problem. there is a big problem we do not even know or have the accurate figures and that is contributing to the police not taking it seriously enough. that is really important starting point. let me bring another starting point for you. the man who looks after nightclubs, etc. when we spoke to him, he said we are doing all we can. when i hear, we are doing all we can and he spoke about educating women to understand the risks that were out there, when i hear, we are doing all we can, ok, then women cannot be protected anymore or anyone can protected any more? how do you tackle that? i do anyone can protected any more? how do you tackle that?— do you tackle that? i do not think that is a good _ do you tackle that? i do not think that is a good enough _ do you tackle that? i do not think that is a good enough response, | do you tackle that? i do not think i that is a good enough response, nor do i think it should be about educating victims of crime. it has to be about stopping perpetrators. these individuals are perpetrating dangerous crimes. quite often it has been dismissed as just an extension of a bad night out mab everybody is drinking too much and it will not get taken seriously. actually these are very dangerous crimes. if someone is prepared to do this kind of thing to another person, to abuse else's body, they are very dangerous. there has to be more focus on stopping the perpetrators of the crime. that means nightclubs and venues of different places to work more seriously. i know some are working seriously and hard to do this but there are a lot more who do not and are not and they do need to do so. . , ., , not and are not and they do need to doso. ., ,, , do so. can you 'ust pick up... for ou as do so. can you 'ust pick up... for you as an — do so. can youjust pick up... for you as an individual, _ do so. can youjust pick up... for you as an individual, you - do so. can youjust pick up... for you as an individual, you said i do so. can you just pick up... for i you as an individual, you said about being worried about going up and the circumstances, what could give you the confidence to do that again, given what you are hearing from other people?— other people? definitely their measures _ other people? definitely their measures to _ other people? definitely their measures to introduce - other people? definitely their i measures to introduce searching as other people? definitely their - measures to introduce searching as a le-al measures to introduce searching as a legal requirement, i understand some .irls legal requirement, i understand some girls are _ legal requirement, i understand some girls are concerned about the potential of being touched by strangers. at the same time you're happy— strangers. at the same time you're happy when — strangers. at the same time you're happy when it happens on holiday when _ happy when it happens on holiday when you — happy when it happens on holiday when you go through airport security _ when you go through airport security. at the end of the date is a small— security. at the end of the date is a small price we have to pay to potentially stop her act happening. -- the _ potentially stop her act happening. -- the and — potentially stop her act happening. —— the and of the day. not necessarily requiring the victim to make _ necessarily requiring the victim to make the — necessarily requiring the victim to make the report. i did not have my phone _ make the report. i did not have my phone either. i think that would really— phone either. i think that would really help reassure victims that 'ust really help reassure victims that just encase something did happen, it would _ just encase something did happen, it would be _ just encase something did happen, it would be picked very quickly and even _ would be picked very quickly and even things like metal detectors. and ensuring that venues have cctv everywhere. obviously bathrooms are off-limits _ everywhere. obviously bathrooms are off—limits. potentially that is big concern — off—limits. potentially that is big concern i— off—limits. potentially that is big concern. i do not know if they can be put _ concern. i do not know if they can be put by— concern. i do not know if they can be put by sink areas and not by cubicles — be put by sink areas and not by cubicles. doing enough to ensure people _ cubicles. doing enough to ensure people are watched when they can be watched _ people are watched when they can be watched because i know there are blind _ watched because i know there are blind spots in lots of clubs and on the street— blind spots in lots of clubs and on the street outside the clubs where people _ the street outside the clubs where people queue. the street outside the clubs where people queue-— the street outside the clubs where --eole rueue. . ~' , , people queue. thank you. molly, 'ust a thou~ht people queue. thank you. molly, 'ust a thought from — people queue. thank you. molly, 'ust a thought from you. i people queue. thank you. molly, 'ust a thought from you. have i people queue. thank you. molly, 'ust a thought from you. have you i people queue. thank you. molly, just a thought from you. have you had i a thought from you. have you had many conversations with your male friends about what happened? we are hearing the outrage from women about what is happening. absolutely right stop these people where your fellow students. what kind of conversations have you had? i students. what kind of conversations have you had?— have you had? i think lots of different ones. _ have you had? i think lots of different ones. a _ have you had? i think lots of different ones. a lot - have you had? i think lots of different ones. a lot of i have you had? i think lots of| different ones. a lot of them have you had? i think lots of- different ones. a lot of them said they had never heard or experienced... that this is the first they had of something like this happening. i think spiking is definitely on the increase now. a lot of their female friends do not tell anyone about it. they say they have never heard of anything like this happening before. i can guarantee a lot of their female friends would have gone through very similar experiences but it is just not talked about. that similar experiences but it is 'ust not talked abouti similar experiences but it is 'ust not talked about. that is what you have done what _ not talked about. that is what you have done what sarah _ not talked about. that is what you have done what sarah has - not talked about. that is what you have done what sarah has done i not talked about. that is what you j have done what sarah has done as well in terms of making sure this is spoken about and this is addressed. well done. thank you. i will make the point, the majority of women who are being affected by this but men are being affected by this but men are affected as well. we have had reports of men being spiked as well. this discussion may have touched a nerve. if you have been affected by any of the issues raised in the discussion we have had, there is help available on bbc action nine. time now to get the news, travel and weather where you are. good morning from bbc london, i'm tolu adeoye. there are calls for a statue to be erected as a memorial to the late southend mp sir david amess in recognition of his contribution to the area. the 69—year—old father of five was stabbed to death during a constituency surgery last week. he regularly championed southend's case to be a city — the queen's already agreed to grant the status — but it's hoped even more can be done to honour him. we need to take a little bit of time to make sure that what we do do to honour sir david is fully in accordance with the wishes of his family. the thames barrier will close today for the 200th time since it became operational in 1982. it's the second largest moveable flood barrier in the world — reducing the risk of flooding for up to 640,000 properties. the closure comes as the environment agency warns of increasing sea levels along the 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'sick�* was produced by paul mckenzie, co—founder of youth unity — a group which develops projects to help disadvantged young people. he hopes it will help break the stigma around the subject of mental health. let's take a look at the travel situation. this is how tfl services are looking right now. there's a good service on the tubes this morning — apart from minor delays on the metropolitan line. onto the weather now with kate kinsella. good morning. last night's rainfall totals widely saw 25 to 35 millimetres of rain up until midnight. rainham however saw 53, so a very wet night. this morning, we still could see some rain as the cold front moves south but that will clear up fairly quickly and what it will do is introduce much colder air and we will notice that temperature drop through the course of today. that is our cold front, the rain clearing behind it, and it is dry, we have sunshine, but a brisk north—westerly breeze and that will make things feel chilly. temperatures may be 13 or 14c, significantly chillier than the last few days. overnight tonight, we will hang on to the breeze. there is a small chance of a shower blowing down from the north—west but largely dry with clear spells and a minimum temperature dropping to 3c or 4c, so again, a chillier night. we have a ridge of high pressure building in for friday and we start to open up a south—westerly breeze and that will bring in some slightly milder air so the temperature will make a recovery as we head towards the weekend. plenty of dry weather in the forecast, but a few glimpses of sunshine. i'm back with the latest from the bbc london in half an hour. bye for now. good morning and welcome to breakfast with naga munchetty and charlie stayt. "rip off britain live" follows breakfast on bbc one this morning. angela, julia and gloria can tell us what's coming up today. good morning to you. the thing is, we have to thank all of the breakfast viewers for getting in touch while we were live on a yesterday and we are grateful for that. today we are talking about politics and holidays and in particular why one group of travellers has been left asking how safe it is to get back on board cruise ships. i safe it is to get back on board cruise ships.— safe it is to get back on board cruise shi s. , ., cruise ships. i wish we had never set foot on _ cruise ships. i wish we had never set foot on the _ cruise ships. i wish we had never set foot on the ship _ cruise ships. i wish we had never set foot on the ship because i cruise ships. i wish we had never set foot on the ship because it i cruise ships. i wish we had never i set foot on the ship because itjust felt like we had been totally let down and sold something we were getting. well, we're going to be joined by the titan of travel himself, simon calder, here to tell us about all the latest when it comes to travel both this year and next. will we need covid passes? will things be totally back to normal? we'll have the answers forty minutes from now. plus, what about i the water companies? figures show we're unhappier than| ever with the service we're getting. the consumer council for water- is here to explain why one company's being fined a whopping £17 million! and, have you ever been fined i for getting your recycling wrong? well. one man has, and our- experts are on hand to see what they can do to help him. if you want their advice too on that topic or anything else, email us i right now, ripoffbritain@bbc.co.uk. and we look forward to your company once again at 9.15. _ see you then. more on our top story now. health officials have urged the government to reintroduce mandatory mask wearing and social distancing measures in england, as covid cases continue to rise. ipswich has one of the highest infection rates in england, and local leaders are now asking schools there to do more to try to tackle the spread of covid. we can talk about this more now with stuart keeble — the director of public health for suffolk. thank you forjoining us this morning. what are you doing? the first thing to _ morning. what are you doing? iis: first thing to say morning. what are you doing? tis: first thing to say is that schools have been doing a marvellous job dealing with what is a difficult situation and we know about 51% of cases are in the under 19 is so two or three weeks ago we brought in some measures which meant that if a school had an outbreak and a child had covid and they had a sibling we asked them to stay at home for three days and to get a pcr test and that helped reduce the numbers but we recognise the rates are high and we have our schools to return after half term and for teaching staff to wear face coverings in half term and for teaching staff to wearface coverings in higher education and out and around but not in the classrooms and in secondary age pupils to wear face coverings when they move around the school. i5 when they move around the school. is a director of public health, how easyis a director of public health, how easy is it to go against government comments that it is not necessary to make this mandatory? this comments that it is not necessary to make this mandatory?— comments that it is not necessary to make this mandatory? this is part of the education _ make this mandatory? this is part of the education contingency _ make this mandatory? this is part of| the education contingency framework and in situations where we have our breaks anyway we are able to put in additional measures and ultimately we have seen outbreaks in suffolk and the wider county and we are seeing cases increase and the parents of those children and in the over '605 so for us it's about working out what works locally to help keep the rates down broadly. would it make it easier if the government made it mandatory to wear face coverings, including schools? things are playing out and we see the challenges the nhs are facing and at the moment i'm focusing on what i can do at a local level and working with schools to do that. the reason i working with schools to do that. the reason i ask — working with schools to do that. the reason i ask that is whether it would make your lives easier and the lives of teachers and head teachers because a student could turn round and say, it's not the law, i don't have to wear a face covering. you are right. — have to wear a face covering. you are right. and _ have to wear a face covering. you are right, and in _ have to wear a face covering. gm, are right, and in that sense we can only ask people to follow our guidance and people in suffolk have responded well and we work closely with our schools to support them through that. and it's not compulsory but what we found when we have found asking siblings to stay at home, we find that guidance to reduce the spread and if a student says i'm not wearing a face covering and is not medically examined, what happens? and and we are not asking secondary base coverings at any point. we recognise education can be affected by wearing face coverings, so so we will ultimately encourage as much as possible and have found and people have responded well to the situation. fight! and people have responded well to the situation.— the situation. and thank you very much for that, _ the situation. and thank you very much for that, and _ the situation. and thank you very much for that, and good - the situation. and thank you very much for that, and good luck. i we've been following the story of andy, mike and tim on breakfast. they're the three dads doing an epic charity walk in memory of their daughters, who all took their own lives. on saturday, they'll finish their 300—mile trek. but along the way, they've been meeting people who've offered support — and shared their own experiences too. alison freeman reports. we lost our sonjamie two years ago. just over two years ago to suicide. how old was he? he was 17. they'd started out as three dads walking. following on from my daughter, sinead, dying by suicide on 14th of july, 2021, i hit a very low point. and i saw you three guys on bbc breakfast and you showed that there is hope. along the way they have been joined by so many other people with very personal stories to tell. my daughter died in march this year, having taken her own life. she was aged 36. my father killed himself a month after i got married and my- grandad also committed suicide. in 2019, i lost my daughter, tasha's little sister, katrina, and last year we lost my husband, tasha's stepfather, damien. i recently lost my daughter to suicide and ijust need to understand why and there's loads of unanswered questions. i'm a member of the same club. i lost a daughter, nikki, - when she was 19, back in 1987. tim, andy and mike all lost their daughters to suicide. united by their loss, they decided they wanted to stop otherfamilies going through the same thing. so they started walking the 300 miles between their homes in cumbria, greater manchester and norfolk to raise awareness of and money for the help that's out there. it's a very powerfuljourney. people are reaching out, people are meeting us while we're walking. you know, with incredible stories about mental health and suicide. as well as meeting new people, other friends have come along to support them, like mark and his son zac. why are we doing this today, zac? three reasons. one because we want to help support them. and helped by the fact that mike is a good friend of dad's, and two to raise money for papyrus, and three simply because we love walking. the dads have managed to stay on track, despite the odd unexpected locked gate. three dads walking, stopped. there is a route about that way a mile or there is a shorter route that way but it's quite boggy this time of year. andy, having a few problems with his feet. make it a bit more comfortable for you. and of course the great british weather. walking across the muddy fields of lincolnshire on day 11. 22 miles to go today. they seem to be the muddiest fields ever. along the way the aim has stayed the same. well done, chaps. making it easier to talk about suicide. we had a really powerful conversation with a lady yesterday. she'd seen us on television. it's the first time she'd been able to sit down with her teenage children and talk about suicide. she had a very frank and open conversation with them and we have almost created that mission in homes to do that. i think what you do should be embedded in any school, curriculum, workplace and we need to get that message out. a message to teenagers saying that there is an l option, there's always a way. suicide is a permanent solution to a temporary problem. - i hope very much we can publicise the problem of depression, which has got such a stigma still. people are embarrassed — a bit afraid to talk about it. but these three blokes are reaching out and talking to people, which i have huge respect for. real down—to—earth guys, - who we can relate to, who've been through exactly the same thing, | talked and told their own stories and it's helped a lot, i think. makes you realise it'sjust the depth of humanity and how kind and thoughtful everybody is and the support that's there, if you are willing to accept it and let it wash over you. i think the key thing i'd say is that, you know, not to be on your own really. is to talk to other people. alison freeman, bbc news. every time i see them doing their thing, walking and talking, and it sounds so simple, but people are coming up to them and sharing stories. , ., , ., stories. the 'oy they have is that the es, stories. the joy they have is that the yes. they — stories. the joy they have is that the yes, they are _ stories. the joy they have is that the yes, they are raising - stories. the joy they have is that the yes, they are raising money| stories. the joy they have is that i the yes, they are raising money and awareness and they are being talking about getting people to talk and it ties really nicely, because look, owain, and i know you've seen the benefit that children in need has done for so many projects where you can raise awareness and the importance of raising awareness for something so important and that is what we saw the guy is doing. yes! what we saw the guy is doing. yes, and of course _ what we saw the guy is doing. yes, and of course the _ what we saw the guy is doing. yes, and of course the importance of talking — and of course the importance of talking and conversation. and what has been _ talking and conversation. and what has been interesting with the children— has been interesting with the children in need with what i am doing. — children in need with what i am doing, visiting some projects that have benefited from funding children in need _ have benefited from funding children in need and seeing how it affects people _ in need and seeing how it affects people has been incredible and that is why— people has been incredible and that is why we _ people has been incredible and that is why we are doing this. we are doing _ is why we are doing this. we are doing this — is why we are doing this. we are doing this to raise money and help people _ doing this to raise money and help --eole. ., , ., doing this to raise money and help ..eole, ., , ., ., doing this to raise money and help ..eole. ., , ., ., ., people. you should say what you are doinr. people. you should say what you are doing- how — people. you should say what you are doing- how are _ people. you should say what you are doing. how are the _ people. you should say what you are doing. how are the blisters? - people. you should say what you are doing. how are the blisters? they i doing. how are the blisters? they are not too _ doing. how are the blisters? they are not too bad _ doing. how are the blisters? they are not too bad and _ doing. how are the blisters? they are not too bad and i— doing. how are the blisters? they are not too bad and i think my hands might— are not too bad and i think my hands might be _ are not too bad and i think my hands might be getting less soft.— might be getting less soft. because ou have might be getting less soft. because you have been _ might be getting less soft. because you have been drumming, - might be getting less soft. because you have been drumming, getting l you have been drumming, getting ready for the drumathon. i’m you have been drumming, getting ready for the drumathon. i'm doing a 24-hour drumathon _ ready for the drumathon. i'm doing a 24-hour drumathon for— ready for the drumathon. i'm doing a 24-hour drumathon for children i ready for the drumathon. i'm doing a 24-hour drumathon for children in i 24—hour drumathon for children in need _ 24—hour drumathon for children in need and — 24—hour drumathon for children in need and as the name suggest, playing — need and as the name suggest, playing the drums for 24 hours and there _ playing the drums for 24 hours and there are _ playing the drums for 24 hours and there are many guestsjoining me as well, _ there are many guestsjoining me as well, and _ there are many guestsjoining me as well, and the training, i've got to play the — well, and the training, i've got to play the drums for three hours a day and go _ play the drums for three hours a day and go to— play the drums for three hours a day and go to the gym twice a day, so i've got— and go to the gym twice a day, so i've got very — and go to the gym twice a day, so i've got very dainty twinkle at arms but it— i've got very dainty twinkle at arms but it might change. gne i've got very dainty twinkle at arms but it might change.— but it might change. one of the u sides but it might change. one of the upsides is _ but it might change. one of the upsides is that _ but it might change. one of the upsides is that you _ but it might change. one of the upsides is that you have - but it might change. one of the upsides is that you have met i but it might change. one of the i upsides is that you have met some very interesting people, and jane was following you up and about, so let's have a look.— let's have a look. let's have a look. right. there's plenty of this. owain wyn evans. the uk's most fabulous weather presenter is it's fair to say a little bit distracted right now. jazzy music. hello, you! how are you doing? more importantly, how are you doing? oh, gosh, jayne honestly. you are practising anyway. any time. every day. any surface. anything that makes any kind of sound when hit with a drumstick, i'm hitting it. it doesn't have to be a drum kit so yes any time anywhere, anyplace, anything. we have something rather special planned for you today. oh, my gosh, i have no idea what this is by the way, i have no idea whatjayne has planned for me. oh my gosh, let's go. yes, i love it. thank you very much, paul. this is all about drumming and i need to know who your drumming heroes are. so let's talk about bands. bonjovi, bring me the horizon, matt nicholls, pop music, harryjudd from mcfly, you know that's a bit more poppy and i love that. oh, my! i think it's time to go full secret squirrel. 0k? can you? i am a bit nervous, because i don't know what you have planned for me, jayne. what's going on? all is about to be revealed. oh, we are at the arena. come this way. after you. thank you. owain! oh, my ? how are you doing? it's so good to see you. how are you? i mean, i don't know how i am to be honest. we've arrived mid—mcfly tour for and training from one of owain's of owain's drumming heroes, harryjudd. sorry, this isjust amazing, i can't believe you're here. come in. look at this, that mcfly rehearsal room. i know. what is this kit, harry? yes! this isjust my lovely orange gresch kit. have you ever played mcfly songs? i've seen you can play. well, i can play a little bit. i've seen you play some really fast efforts. # everybody wants to know her name ijust came and sat behind your drum kit. please do. nice height for you? gorgeous. seat a bit low? a little bit low. let me twist that out for you. i can't believe harryjudd is adjusting my drum kit. i have arrived. # hey, i'm looking up to my star girl. you know the star girl intro? yes, let's hear it. there we go. drumming. was that a bit fast? sorted. this one's a little bit harder but i think you've got it in the locker. tempo wise it's about ? so go — do do do. so what harry has done, everyone, he's gone from level two to level 5000. what was it? that's it. how do you find that drumming has helped you? definitely. it's something that keeps me in the present moment which for me is really important and i've struggled in the past with anxiety and other mental health problems and one of the key things for me when i'm struggling with those things is to remain present and have things for distraction and have things that help me stay mindful and, you know, drumming does exactly that. what is your top tip, harry, on playing the drums for a long time, for 24 hours? i don't know how you will do that. honestly, for those of you at home who don't play an instrument to play the drums for 24 hours. i play for an hour and a half an hour and 45 minutes in the show and i am exhausted after that, so to do it for 24 hours that is an amazing, well, it will be an amazing achievement. we will see, harry, we will see. i'm feeling relatively confident, but who knows? so you need to practise this. do you know what i mean? that kind of drumming? oh yeah. super stylish straw hat. we are going to bring them back. we are bringing the straw hat back. harry, this has been such a treat. thank you so much for letting me come today and i will see you and you're gorgeous orange drum kit. lots of love. best of luck. rather you than me. i will make it. nothing small about his arms. did ou see nothing small about his arms. d c you see them? and did you notice i looked like a competition winner. you kind of are. are you thinking about adopting the sleeveless black top? your whole thing is a very dapper thing. flan top? your whole thing is a very dapper thing-— top? your whole thing is a very da...erthin_ ., , ., . dapper thing. can we maybe introduce a sleeveless — dapper thing. can we maybe introduce a sleeveless suit. _ dapper thing. can we maybe introduce a sleeveless suit. you _ dapper thing. can we maybe introduce a sleeveless suit. you are _ dapper thing. can we maybe introduce a sleeveless suit. you are going i dapper thing. can we maybe introduce a sleeveless suit. you are going to i a sleeveless suit. you are going to do 24 hours _ a sleeveless suit. you are going to do 24 hours in _ a sleeveless suit. you are going to do 24 hours in a _ a sleeveless suit. you are going to do 24 hours in a suit _ a sleeveless suit. you are going to do 24 hours in a suit drumming? l a sleeveless suit. you are going to do 24 hours in a suit drumming? i | do 24 hours in a suit drumming?! think it will be difficult but i love a costume change. how will you costume change if you are drumming? maybe some velcro? do costume change if you are drumming? maybe some velcro?— costume change if you are drumming? maybe some velcro? do you want some insiration? maybe some velcro? do you want some inspiration? i — maybe some velcro? do you want some inspiration? i would _ maybe some velcro? do you want some inspiration? i would love _ maybe some velcro? do you want some inspiration? i would love some - inspiration? i would love some inspiration- — inspiration? i would love some inspiration. we _ inspiration? i would love some inspiration. we want _ inspiration? i would love some inspiration. we want to - inspiration? i would love some inspiration. we want to inspire j inspiration? i would love some i inspiration. we want to inspire you. we are right — inspiration. we want to inspire you. we are right behind _ inspiration. we want to inspire you. we are right behind you _ inspiration. we want to inspire you. we are right behind you and - inspiration. we want to inspire you. we are right behind you and we i inspiration. we want to inspire you. | we are right behind you and we have a little surprise. you need to look at the screens.— at the screens. hey, this is dave grohl, 24 _ at the screens. hey, this is dave grohl, 24 hours _ at the screens. hey, this is dave grohl, 24 hours of— at the screens. hey, this is dave grohl, 24 hours of drumming, i l at the screens. hey, this is dave i grohl, 24 hours of drumming, i can't even— grohl, 24 hours of drumming, i can't even imagine — grohl, 24 hours of drumming, i can't even imagine-— even imagine. hello, boys and girls, nico from iron _ even imagine. hello, boys and girls, nico from iron maiden, _ even imagine. hello, boys and girls, nico from iron maiden, and - even imagine. hello, boys and girls, nico from iron maiden, and i - even imagine. hello, boys and girls, nico from iron maiden, and i want i even imagine. hello, boys and girls, | nico from iron maiden, and i want to take the _ nico from iron maiden, and i want to take the opportunity— nico from iron maiden, and i want to take the opportunity to _ nico from iron maiden, and i want to take the opportunity to wish - nico from iron maiden, and i want to take the opportunity to wish you i nico from iron maiden, and i want to take the opportunity to wish you a i take the opportunity to wish you a fantastic— take the opportunity to wish you a fantastic tray— take the opportunity to wish you a fantastic tray of— take the opportunity to wish you a fantastic tray of dummy _ take the opportunity to wish you a fantastic tray of dummy and - take the opportunity to wish you a fantastic tray of dummy and good | fantastic tray of dummy and good luck with — fantastic tray of dummy and good luck with it. — fantastic tray of dummy and good luck with it, with _ fantastic tray of dummy and good luck with it, with 24—hour - fantastic tray of dummy and good luck with it, with 24—hour zon i luck with it, with 24—hour zon drumming _ luck with it, with 24—hour zon drumming for— luck with it, with 24—hour zon drumming for children- luck with it, with 24—hour zon drumming for children in- luck with it, with 24—hour zon . drumming for children in need, luck with it, with 24—hour zon - drumming for children in need, god bless _ drumming for children in need, god bless you. _ drumming for children in need, god bless you. mate~ _ drumming for children in need, god bless you, mate. ? _ drumming for children in need, god bless you, mate. ? 24—hour- drumming for children in need, god bless you, mate. ? 24—hour is- drumming for children in need, god bless you, mate. ? 24—hour is of. bless you, mate. ? 24—hour is of drummim} — bless you, mate. ? 24—hour is of drummim} i_ bless you, mate. ? 24—hour is of drumming. i wish _ bless you, mate. ? 24—hour is of drumming. i wish you _ bless you, mate. ? 24—hour is of drumming. i wish you the - bless you, mate. ? 24—hour is of| drumming. i wish you the best of luck and — drumming. i wish you the best of luck and i— drumming. i wish you the best of luck and i hope _ drumming. i wish you the best of luck and i hope that _ drumming. iwish you the best of luck and i hope that your- drumming. i wish you the best of luck and i hope that your hands l drumming. i wish you the best of. luck and i hope that your hands hold up. luck and i hope that your hands hold u -. , . . luck and i hope that your hands hold u . _ , ., ., , , up. hyde, the drama with simple minds is here _ up. hyde, the drama with simple minds is here and _ up. hyde, the drama with simple minds is here and i _ up. hyde, the drama with simple minds is here and i would - up. hyde, the drama with simple minds is here and i would like . up. hyde, the drama with simple minds is here and i would like to | minds is here and i would like to wish you all the best of luck with the drumathon. it will be very tiring playing for those hours but you have the support of the dramas and it will be brilliant. i you have the support of the dramas and it will be brilliant.— and it will be brilliant. i can't really imagine _ and it will be brilliant. i can't really imagine playing - and it will be brilliant. i can't really imagine playing for - and it will be brilliant. i can't really imagine playing for 24| and it will be brilliant. i can't - really imagine playing for 24 hours. pace yourself. don't give it all in the first— pace yourself. don't give it all in the first ten minutes. it's like boxim} — the first ten minutes. it's like boxing. you've got to hold back and build _ boxing. you've got to hold back and build your— boxing. you've got to hold back and build your way up. you boxing. you've got to hold back and build your way urn-— boxing. you've got to hold back and build your way up. you can get away with a sort of— build your way up. you can get away with a sort of occasional _ build your way up. you can get away with a sort of occasional hit. - build your way up. you can get away with a sort of occasional hit. just - with a sort of occasional hit. just -la a with a sort of occasional hit. just play a drum _ with a sort of occasional hit. just play a drum every _ with a sort of occasional hit. play a drum every 30 seconds. with a sort of occasional hit. just - play a drum every 30 seconds. jamie oliver here. — play a drum every 30 seconds. jamie oliver here, please _ play a drum every 30 seconds. jamie oliver here, please join _ play a drum every 30 seconds. jamie oliver here, please join me - play a drum every 30 seconds. jamie oliver here, please join me to - oliver here, pleasejoin me to make some noise for bbc children in need. remember, posture, ok? make sure you keepyour— remember, posture, ok? make sure you keep your back straight a little bit. keep your back straight a little bit lay— keep your back straight a little bit. lay back, lay into the groove, 0k? _ bit. lay back, lay into the groove, 0k? don'l— bit. lay back, lay into the groove, ok? don't solo the whole time but you might — ok? don't solo the whole time but you might want a little one every time _ you might want a little one every time. just— you might want a little one every time. just to wake everyone up, but you are _ time. just to wake everyone up, but you are a _ time. just to wake everyone up, but you are a hero and it sounds amazim} _ you are a hero and it sounds amazing-— you are a hero and it sounds - amazing._ wow. you are a hero and it sounds amazinu. ., , ., ., wow. ., amazing. that is amazing! wow. that is incredible. — amazing. that is amazing! wow. that is incredible, and _ amazing. that is amazing! wow. that is incredible, and you _ amazing. that is amazing! wow. that is incredible, and you know— amazing. that is amazing! wow. that is incredible, and you know what - amazing. that is amazing! wow. that is incredible, and you know what i - is incredible, and you know what i loved about it is that that this is bonkers and it is, back straight. keep your core. great advice. that is lovely. keep your core. great advice. that is lovel . ., ~ keep your core. great advice. that is lovel. . ,, �* ~ ., is lovely. thank you. i didn't know jamie is lovely. thank you. i didn't know jamie oliver _ is lovely. thank you. i didn't know jamie oliver drum. _ is lovely. thank you. i didn't know jamie oliver drum. he _ is lovely. thank you. i didn't know jamie oliver drum. he is - is lovely. thank you. i didn't know jamie oliver drum. he is a - is lovely. thank you. i didn't know jamie oliver drum. he is a great l jamie oliver drum. he is a great drummer- _ jamie oliver drum. he is a great drummer. he's _ jamie oliver drum. he is a great drummer. he's kept _ jamie oliver drum. he is a great drummer. he's kept that - jamie oliver drum. he is a great drummer. he's kept that quite l jamie oliver drum. he is a great - drummer. he's kept that quite quiet. duran duran. drummer. he's kept that quite quiet. duran duran-— duran duran. yes, that was great advice. duran duran. yes, that was great advice- and — duran duran. yes, that was great advice- and i — duran duran. yes, that was great advice. and i need _ duran duran. yes, that was great advice. and i need all _ duran duran. yes, that was great advice. and i need all the - duran duran. yes, that was great advice. and i need all the advice | duran duran. yes, that was great | advice. and i need all the advice i can get at the moment. did advice. and i need all the advice i can get at the moment.— advice. and i need all the advice i can get at the moment. did you say that? it's can get at the moment. did you say that? it's a — can get at the moment. did you say that? it's a good _ can get at the moment. did you say that? it's a good thing _ can get at the moment. did you say that? it's a good thing you - can get at the moment. did you say that? it's a good thing you say - that? it's a good thing you say that. that? it's a good thing you say that- can _ that? it's a good thing you say that- can you _ that? it's a good thing you say that. can you take _ that? it's a good thing you say that. can you take another- that? it's a good thing you say - that. can you take another surprise? can i? ., ., ., , ., that. can you take another surprise? canl? ., . ., can i? you have told us and if you tell us it's — can i? you have told us and if you tell us it's all _ can i? you have told us and if you tell us it's all written _ can i? you have told us and if you tell us it's all written down - can i? you have told us and if you tell us it's all written down and i l tell us it's all written down and i learned that a while ago. one of your all—time musical heroes was matt nicholls from bring me the cup 7 matt nicholls from bring me the cup ? horizon. is matt nicholls from bring me the cup ? horizon. , ., matt nicholls from bring me the cup ? horizon. , . ., ? horizon. is that him over there? matt nicholls _ ? horizon. is that him over there? matt nicholls coming. _ ? horizon. is that him over there? matt nicholls coming. how- ? horizon. is that him over there? matt nicholls coming. how are - ? horizon. is that him over there? i matt nicholls coming. how are you, have a seat. do you think he is bonkers? ads, have a seat. do you think he is bonkers?— have a seat. do you think he is bonkers?_ it i have a seat. do you think he is bonkers?_ it is| have a seat. do you think he is i bonkers?_ it is so bonkers? a little bit, yes. it is so aood to bonkers? a little bit, yes. it is so good to meet _ bonkers? a little bit, yes. it is so good to meet you. _ bonkers? a little bit, yes. it is so good to meet you. he _ bonkers? a little bit, yes. it is so good to meet you. he is - bonkers? a little bit, yes. it is so good to meet you. he is an - bonkers? a little bit, yes. it is so i good to meet you. he is an amazing drummer. ~ g good to meet you. he is an amazing drummer-- they _ good to meet you. he is an amazing drummer. whig? they are a great band drummer. why? they are a great band and ou drummer. why? they are a great band and you are — drummer. why? they are a great band and you are so — drummer. why? they are a great band and you are so fast, _ drummer. why? they are a great band and you are so fast, and just the energy in those songs. i've tried to play so many of them. i’ige energy in those songs. i've tried to play so many of them.— energy in those songs. i've tried to play so many of them. i've seen your videos. play so many of them. i've seen your videos- you — play so many of them. i've seen your videos. you are _ play so many of them. i've seen your videos. you are playing _ play so many of them. i've seen your videos. you are playing well, - play so many of them. i've seen your videos. you are playing well, yes. i videos. you are playing well, yes. what _ videos. you are playing well, yes. what is _ videos. you are playing well, yes. what is the — videos. you are playing well, yes. what is the verdict so far? i videos. you are playing well, yes. what is the verdict so far?- what is the verdict so far? i think he's doing _ what is the verdict so far? i think he's doing well. _ what is the verdict so far? i think he's doing well. the _ what is the verdict so far? i think he's doing well. the advice - what is the verdict so far? i think i he's doing well. the advice everyone is giving _ he's doing well. the advice everyone is giving you — he's doing well. the advice everyone is giving you is good, take it steady, _ is giving you is good, take it steady, and rather you than me, to be honest— steady, and rather you than me, to be honest you. it steady, and rather you than me, to be honest yon-— be honest you. it will be hard. he is worried — be honest you. it will be hard. he is worried about _ be honest you. it will be hard. he is worried about his _ be honest you. it will be hard. he is worried about his twiglets - be honest you. it will be hard. hel is worried about his twiglets arms. what can he do about it? it’s what can he do about it? it's keein: what can he do about it? it's keeping it — what can he do about it? it's keeping it up _ what can he do about it? it�*s keeping it up for 24—hour zes hard. there have to be positions that take the pressure off. it’s there have to be positions that take the pressure off.— the pressure off. it's about what sticks you _ the pressure off. it's about what sticks you use. _ the pressure off. it's about what sticks you use. i _ the pressure off. it's about what sticks you use. i normally - the pressure off. it's about what sticks you use. i normally use i the pressure off. it's about what sticks you use. i normally use a | sticks you use. i normally use a five a, but _ sticks you use. i normally use a five a, but i _ sticks you use. i normally use a five a, but i have _ sticks you use. i normally use a five a, but i have gone - sticks you use. i normally use a five a, but i have gone down i sticks you use. i normally use a five a, but i have gone down to| sticks you use. i normally use a l five a, but i have gone down to a seven because i'm using electric drums so i can't smash them as hard. i don't know. just crack on, you know— i don't know. just crack on, you know what _ i don't know. just crack on, you know what i_ i don't know. just crack on, you know what i mean? go i don't know. just crack on, you know what i mean?— i don't know. just crack on, you know what i mean? go for it. you are allowed to just _ know what i mean? go for it. you are allowed to just hit one _ know what i mean? go for it. you are allowed to just hit one beat _ know what i mean? go for it. you are allowed to just hit one beat for- know what i mean? go for it. you are allowed to just hit one beat for a - allowed to just hit one beat for a bit. i allowed to 'ust hit one beat for a bit. ., �* ~ , bit. i don't think i will be massively _ bit. i don't think i will be massively over— bit. i don't think i will be massively over for - bit. i don't think i will be massively over for 24 i bit. i don't think i will be - massively over for 24 hours, but i think i will be to do the para deals. ., , i. think i will be to do the para deals. ., , y., . deals. you tell me. maybe you want to show off — deals. you tell me. maybe you want to show off a _ deals. you tell me. maybe you want to show off a bit _ deals. you tell me. maybe you want to show off a bit and _ deals. you tell me. maybe you want to show off a bit and you _ deals. you tell me. maybe you want to show off a bit and you want - deals. you tell me. maybe you want to show off a bit and you want to i to show off a bit and you want to make some noise and that must be a temptation. make some noise and that must be a temptation-— temptation. sometimes. a lot of times ou temptation. sometimes. a lot of times you have _ temptation. sometimes. a lot of times you have to _ temptation. sometimes. a lot of times you have to concentrate i temptation. sometimes. a lot of| times you have to concentrate on temptation. sometimes. a lot of- times you have to concentrate on the son. times you have to concentrate on the song and _ times you have to concentrate on the song and you don't want to overdo it or anything — song and you don't want to overdo it or anything like that, but when the time is _ or anything like that, but when the time is right, go for it. he or anything like that, but when the time is right, go for it.— time is right, go for it. he is doini time is right, go for it. he is doing this — time is right, go for it. he is doing this really _ time is right, go for it. he is doing this really annoying i time is right, go for it. he is i doing this really annoying thing where you can hearing from a distance and he is doing that all the time. do distance and he is doing that all the time. ,, ., distance and he is doing that all the time. i. ., . distance and he is doing that all the time. ., . ':: ::f m the time. do you do that? 100%. does it annoy people _ the time. do you do that? 100%. does it annoy people around _ the time. do you do that? 100%. does it annoy people around you? i it annoy people around you? probably, but they get used to it. what _ probably, but they get used to it. what was — probably, but they get used to it. what was your trick to becoming better than the rest? you know, the majority. there are amazing dramas, but what did you do that got you there? i but what did you do that got you there? ., �* ,._ . but what did you do that got you there? ., �* _ . , there? i wouldn't say i am better than the rest _ there? i wouldn't say i am better than the rest ? _ there? i wouldn't say i am better than the rest ? drummers. i there? i wouldn't say i am better than the rest ? drummers. just. than the rest ? drummers. just believing — than the rest ? drummers. just believing in myself. i never had a drum _ believing in myself. i never had a drum lesson when i was a kid and i winged _ drum lesson when i was a kid and i winged it— drum lesson when i was a kid and i winged it and have been winging it for 15_ winged it and have been winging it for 15 years and ijust started and i for 15 years and ijust started and i could _ for 15 years and ijust started and i could barely play the drums when i started _ i could barely play the drums when i started but— i could barely play the drums when i started but you pick things up and when _ started but you pick things up and when we — started but you pick things up and when we first started ijust wanted to go— when we first started ijust wanted to go fast, — when we first started ijust wanted to go fast, like you say and as you .et to go fast, like you say and as you get more — to go fast, like you say and as you get more into it and start to understand actually playing the drums — understand actually playing the drums and notjust going fast, you learn _ drums and notjust going fast, you learn like — drums and notjust going fast, you learn like the grooves and stuff like that, — learn like the grooves and stuff like that, ? it is lovely for seeing this morning and thank for coming in. this morning and thank for coming in you _ this morning and thank for coming in you are — this morning and thank for coming in. you are welcome. a this morning and thank for coming in. you are welcome.— in. you are welcome. a huge surprise- _ in. you are welcome. a huge surprise- a — in. you are welcome. a huge surprise. a huge _ in. you are welcome. a huge surprise. a huge learning i in. you are welcome. a huge i surprise. a huge learning curve about drums, _ surprise. a huge learning curve about drums, by _ surprise. a huge learning curve about drums, by you. i surprise. a huge learning curve about drums, by you. you i surprise. a huge learning curve l about drums, by you. you should learn. about drums, by you. you should learn- get _ about drums, by you. you should learn. get on _ about drums, by you. you should learn. get on it. _ about drums, by you. you should learn. get on it. lots _ about drums, by you. you should learn. get on it. lots of i about drums, by you. you should learn. get on it. lots of people i learn. get on it. lots of people will be inspired, _ learn. get on it. lots of people will be inspired, but _ learn. get on it. lots of people will be inspired, but here i learn. get on it. lots of people will be inspired, but here is i learn. get on it. lots of people | will be inspired, but here is how you can support the challenge for the nicholls. if you would like to support the drumathon challenge attempt and donate to bbc children in need, you can donate £5 by so so you too are going off to talk drums or do some drumming, so that's all good. lovely to see you. you're watching bbc breakfast. it's 8.59. this is bbc news. i'm rebecca jones with the latest headlines. the government is accused of being 'wilfully negligent�* by the doctors' union the bma for not imposing coronavirus rules to tackle rising cases, but ministers say further measures aren't needed. we don't believe that, even though the nhs is under real pressure, it always is in winter but it is particularly now, that it is under unsustainable pressure and that now is not the right moment to look to trigger a plan b. as police assess the scale of the problem of women being spiked with needles in nightclubs, one force is investigating 12 reports injust the last three weeks. the bbc obtains documents showing some countries want to play down the dangers to the climate of coal, gas and oil, and lobbying over how much richer countries should pay to help.