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sir david amess. after all, he was an mp for almost a0 years. first elected back in 1983 and serving this constituency, south and west, since 1997. when he set off from home yesterday, he went to do something he had done countless times over those decades, go to meet constituents at one of his regular constituency surgeries. the difference was, yesterday he did not return home. leaving a family, colleagues, friends and a community here sadly grieving his loss. the coverage will continue throughout the day here on bbc news, but for now let's pause and take a look at the weather. good afternoon to you. extensive cloud so far today across many parts of the uk. that cloud has been producing outbreaks of rain, certain spots moving across east anglia and the south east, continuing to move eastwards at the moment. heavy rain approaching in northern ireland, western parts of scotland. there have been a bright spots, that was the scene for a weather watcher in the scene for a weather watcher in the channel islands earlier on. some brighter skies are spreading up across england and wales. increasing amounts of sunshine, the rain should clear east anglia and at the south—east by the afternoon. at the same time, thicker cloud to northern ireland. our same time, thicker cloud to northern ireland. 0urfree scotland holding on to some sunshine. quite a chilly afternoon here. through this evening and overnight, increasing amounts of cloud, outbreaks of rain, heavy bass maiden, from northern ireland into central and southern scotland. where do we keep clear skies over northern scotland, it will still be quite chilly by the end of the night. most of us starting sunday morning on a mild note. 0utbreaks of us starting sunday morning on a mild note. outbreaks of rain which will turn lighter and patchy as the day wears on. likely to see some brighter skies developing. the northern isles will see some sunny spells throughout the day. further southin spells throughout the day. further south in cardiff, highs of 19, actually starting to feel quite warm and any sunshine. that is a sign of things to come as we head into the new week. low pressure to the rest of us, frontal systems approaching, they will be some rain, strong wind at times, but the wind is coming up from the south. some warm air for the time of year but not wall—to—wall sunshine, far from the time of year but not wall—to—wall sunshine, farfrom it, wall—to—wall sunshine, far from it, cloud wall—to—wall sunshine, farfrom it, cloud and showery rain through monday. tuesday set to get warmer still, particularly down toward the south. if you do see any sunshine, certainly not guaranteed, some outbreaks of heavy and persistent rain, but lately cloud doesn't break tuesdayis rain, but lately cloud doesn't break tuesday is likely to be the day where we will see highs of may be 21 degrees. parts of north—east scotland could turn up warm shelter as well. stays unsettled through the week, later in the week the warm leads us and it will turn cooler again from the north. hello, this is bbc news. the headlines: side by side in grief — the prime minister and leader of the opposition visit the scene where tory mp sir david amess was killed yesterday. police say they're treating the killing as a terrorist incident — as tributes are paid from across politics. he was a man of the people. he was absolutely there for everyone. he was a much loved parliamentarian. to me, he was a dear and loyalfriend. the killing has resurfaced the dilemma facing mps over security at their surgeries — and whether it would be safer to hold them virtually. we don't want to become like other countries, other mp5 when they visit us they are aghast that we actually meet our constituents face—to—face. i think we want to carry on doing that, and i think we can, but we have got to do it in a way which is safer. and, questions asked about how a covid pcr testing lab that recorded thousands of inaccurate results won a multi—million pound now on bbc news, melissa hogenboom explores the hidden forces at play that shape a mother's identity. a few years ago i became a mother for the first time, an immersive new reality. i'm a science journalist at the bbc and i have spent over a year researching the science behind how motherhood changes us and why this change can feel so stark and overwhelming. i was intrigued when i came across these intimate diaries about the experiences of new motherhood written by a dutch doctor in the 1980s. her words struck a chord, even three decades later. i had a strong drive to do something and to be able to fulfil that. almost everything changes - during this time and i think women aren't fully prepared for that. yeah, maybe the maternal brain is a bit misunderstood. there is an orchestra of the brain activation. the way society looks upon you changes hugely. guilt doesn't necessarily to be intrinsically intertwined - with the experience of motherhood. i now live in the uk but i was born in the netherlands, so i travelled back to my home country of my two children in tow to meet the author of those diaries. you wrote a lot of diaries during your early time as a mother. can you tell me why you were writing about motherhood? i think as a way to express myself because life was changing rapidly and i realised, wow, this is really life changing. i had been longing so much to become pregnant, but it was impossible, i had to finish my studies, do my work at the hospital, so it wasn't possible. and i had never really dealt with children, it was a way to reflect and see how it could reflect on this new part of myself. it was just totally different. motherhood is emotional and can be difficult. for years, studying it has been somewhat ignored. these incredible academics are part of a growing body of research that is trying to correct this to understand why motherhood can be such a momentous, joy struggle. studying a maternal brain is immensely fascinating. if the role of parenting is really important for children's development, it is very important for us to understand how we become parents. we need to get that balance a bit more right between not wantingl to scare women but also giving the information that they need| in order to be fully prepared for what is happening. - and i think realising that and seeing how things are different within different cultures is just fascinating. i think we need to radically reimagine the way that we understand what it means to be a mother and a father in our society today. we can do different and better by mothers. am i already not - doing enough for you? i'm pregnant, i'm still working. how can i do it when you are here? can i do training? difficult for me to be - a doctor and to be a mum, how to combine that. i became a mother 31 years later, 30 years after you became a mother, and i had those same feelings. why do you think we had such similar experiences? the reality is that motherhood is common at the same time that it is also a source of inequality in day—to—day life. though motherhood looks different wherever you look, we begin with changes that are common to many mothers, mothers, as researchers at utrecht university explain. there is obviously the physiological change, your hormones and everything make a women change when they turn into being a mother. these physiological changes during pregnancy are probably the best studied part of motherhood. they are driven by hormones, tiny messengers that move around your body to start molecular cascade of events that generally result in genes being switched on or off in specific cell types, causing changes in the proteins that these cells are producing, hence changes in cell function and an overall physiological change. here we see how some key hormones change during pregnancy and their effects. and as amazing as these little molecules are at transforming a woman into a mother, many of these changes come at a cost. i spoke with psychologist catherine preston from the university of york and asked her to explain why. there's quite a lot of different changes going on and this can have quite a large effect on how people feel about themselves. there are three key things. there is the appearance of feeling dissatisfied with the way they appear to other people in the kind of clothes they have to wear, their change in wardrobe, or their developing bump being too small or too big. but there are also concerns about excess weight gain, and also the physical burdens of pregnancy. being frustrated that you can do the same type things that you could do before you are pregnant. some of our research has shown, negative feelings about these kind of body changes during pregnancy can impact on the bond that is developing with the unborn baby. there are many things driving these kind of negative feelings. unfortunately during pregnancy you still don't get a let up from the sort of pressure of how you should appear. that is, magazines, the media, and the construction of the ideal woman and mother. your physical state has such an obvious visual symbol, this baby bump. people kind of feel that they own it somehow. a lot of the time people wouldn't comment on whether your body was large or small, but they feel free to do that when you are when you are pregnant, and also they sometimes feel free to touch the bump. it feels like everybody seems to own your body. for me, it felt both incredibly empowering and extremely fragile to be consumed by another human in such an increasingly visible way. gradually we become mum before a woman in a way that can feel uncomfortable with how people perceive as override who we feel we are — pregnant first, woman second. we focus quite a bit on these negative aspects because we want to know how to help people and how to put to put interventions in. but there is also a very positive experience during birth. a lot of women reported feeling in awe of their bodies, feeling really proud that they were able to create this baby, and women who then go on to choose to breast—feed feeling in awe of the fact that their body is able to find this food for their child to help them grow. so there are all these really nice positive aspects and we should help them to focus on those, the wonder of their body being able to do this. and i don't feel restful in myself, i have to fight to find inner peace. i was a bit to myself. i also used the diary to complain or to put my complex feelings down sometimes, and it was not always easy. i so it is not too surprising thatl drastic changes in the hormonal levels influence women's brain. it is definitely possible that the brain changes that we are looking at could constitute a shift in the attention of the mother. priming the woman's brain for motherhood. we found that during the first few months postpartum period there is greatest increase in the mother's brain size, and that seems directly contradicting to this common perception of the mommy brain. a lot of women feel that they don't do so well in this period when it comes to mental function. they say they don't remember as well. remember so well. it could be that it is a period when the brain is sort of merging into focusing on something else. there are studies showing that these changes are linked to maternal behaviour, such as attachment to the baby. structural growth has been reported in a number of brain regions. these help mothers feel highly motivated to respond to babies calling, and feel lovely when they smile. these help regulate our own distress in response to babies crying. these help decide what is the most appropriate response to make. these help to take the perspective of the baby. and finally all the senses get a boost to help a mother interact with her baby. and if we think about it in an evolutionary in the perspective, and if we think about it in an evolutionary perspective, it makes sense that any change that would promote or protection of the child would be beneficial, not only for the offspring, but also for the reproductive success of the mother. some changes may reverse after birth, but others may persist during the postpartum period and even years beyond. what we would like to know more about is whether these changes that we see later in life are driven by the hormonal fluctuations and immune processes that occur during pregnancy in women, or whether we are actually looking at brain plasticity as a result of parenting experience. brain plasticity, or neuro plasticity, is the process through which our brain reorganises and grows its neural network. it was once thought that only children did this, but we now know that many areas of the brain remain plastic, even throughout. i asked a neuroscientist from the university of denver to elaborate. those kind of changes we call experience depending experience dependant plasticity, brain changes that are depend on experience. so the more experience a mother has, we see a strong connections between neurons in brain areas that are important for parenting. that is true for fathers as well that we see. so the one study i could mention here is that in israel, people recruited, same—sex fathers, couples who recently had babies, it is very interesting that not only at the father's show greater brain the fathers show greater brain response to their own baby, but it is the primary caregiver show even more greater brain sensitivity to his child compared to the partner. this means that women may get a head start but partners who do not birth a child receive a brain boost too. my children are regularly looked after by my husband, for instance, which benefits everyone in the process. women are not therefore biologically destined to be the primary carers. pregnancy definitely primes the body but is clear that is the time and the intensity of the emotional bonds that relates to how the brain changes. this neuroscientist and her team found even more lasting effects of motherhood on the brain, with all sorts of interesting implications. what we found was that women who had given birth to several children showed slightly younger looking brains compared to what was expected for their chronological age. what that means is that some of the brain changes that we commonly see with ageing, such as grey matter atrophy and white—matter decline, women who had given to several children show less of these changes. this may indicate that having had children earlier in life could potentially have a protective effect on the brain as we age. but before we get carried away, there is a slight disclaimer. is there is a slight disclaimer. maybe one thing i can solidarity is maybe one thing i can add in solidarity with all the women who do not have children, such as myself, these effects that we see in brain ageing in women in later life, they are quite moderate, what that means is that having had children earlier in life is only a part of the stuff that may influence how we age. ageing is indeed a complex process and stress has long been linked to it, i do not all changes in the other�*s brain may help it. if it, i do not all changes in the other's brain may help it. if you are stress. _ other's brain may help it. if you are stress, you _ other's brain may help it. if you are stress, you may _ other's brain may help it. if you are stress, you may snap, - other's brain may help it. if you are stress, you may snap, youl other's brain may help it. if you - are stress, you may snap, you don't feel a _ are stress, you may snap, you don't feel a good _ are stress, you may snap, you don't feel a good person. i are stress, you may snap, you don't feel a good person.— feel a good person. i hate it when they scream. _ feel a good person. i hate it when they scream. it — feel a good person. i hate it when they scream, it literally _ feel a good person. i hate it when they scream, it literally releasesl they scream, it literally releases cortisol in your brain, so you are actually having a sort of fight or flight response. you actually having a sort of fight or flight response.— actually having a sort of fight or flight response. you can imagine at the intensity _ flight response. you can imagine at the intensity of _ flight response. you can imagine at the intensity of being _ flight response. you can imagine at the intensity of being highly - the intensity of being highly sensitive to baby's use for 2a hours, that can be quite overwhelming. in these periods of brain plasticity, such as pregnancy, there is also a potential vulnerability to environmental stress, such as lack of sleep or decrease social interactions. we really need _ decrease social interactions. we really need to the mechanisms behind this, and _ really need to the mechanisms behind this, and which factors may put some women _ this, and which factors may put some women at _ this, and which factors may put some women at risk for mental health problems. — women at risk for mental health problems, such as maternal depression. problems, such as maternal depression-— problems, such as maternal deression. ., . ., depression. you're not an individual an more, depression. you're not an individual anymore. you're — depression. you're not an individual anymore. you're a _ depression. you're not an individual anymore, you're a mum, _ depression. you're not an individual anymore, you're a mum, which - depression. you're not an individual anymore, you're a mum, which by l anymore, you're a mum, which by definition— anymore, you're a mum, which by definition gives _ anymore, you're a mum, which by definition gives you _ anymore, you're a mum, which by definition gives you different - anymore, you're a mum, which by definition gives you different roles in a society — definition gives you different roles in a society. now— definition gives you different roles in a society. now you _ definition gives you different roles in a society. now you are - definition gives you different roles in a society. now you are there i definition gives you different roles in a society. now you are there to| in a society. now you are there to take _ in a society. now you are there to take of— in a society. now you are there to take of your— in a society. now you are there to take of your baby, _ in a society. now you are there to take of your baby, but _ in a society. now you are there to take of your baby, but also - in a society. now you are there to take of your baby, but also for. in a society. now you are there to| take of your baby, but also for the rest of— take of your baby, but also for the rest of the — take of your baby, but also for the rest of the world, _ take of your baby, but also for the rest of the world, because - take of your baby, but also for the rest of the world, because that's i rest of the world, because that's what _ rest of the world, because that's what a _ rest of the world, because that's what a mother— rest of the world, because that's what a mother does. _ rest of the world, because that's what a mother does.— rest of the world, because that's what a mother does. there is quite a lot of impact — what a mother does. there is quite a lot of impact on _ what a mother does. there is quite a lot of impact on this _ what a mother does. there is quite a lot of impact on this very _ what a mother does. there is quite a lot of impact on this very physical. lot of impact on this very physical process of pregnancy and birth and how they feel about themselves, and at their own sense of self. thei;c at their own sense of self. they think that _ at their own sense of self. they think that is — at their own sense of self. they think that is because _ at their own sense of self. they think that is because of - at their own sense of self. they think that is because of the - at their own sense of self. they think that is because of the way views mothers, motherhood is a very separate sphere to the workplace? for me, anyway, that is why i felt such a strong clash. there is a saying, at work pretend you're not a mother and at home pretend you don't work. , , , . ~ , mother and at home pretend you don't work. , , ' . ~ , ., work. yes, it is difficult. as a doctor, work. yes, it is difficult. as a doctor. you _ work. yes, it is difficult. as a doctor, you can't _ work. yes, it is difficult. as a doctor, you can't have - work. yes, it is difficult. as a doctor, you can't have a - work. yes, it is difficult. as aj doctor, you can't have a child running — doctor, you can't have a child running around, you really have to concentrate. it is difficult to have this concentration and to feel a different— this concentration and to feel a different part of yourself. that wasn't compatible? _ different part of yourself. that wasn't compatible? not - different part of yourself. that wasn't compatible? not yet. l different part of yourself. that wasn't compatible? not yet. i | different part of yourself. that - wasn't compatible? not yet. i think later in life — wasn't compatible? not yet. i think later in life it _ wasn't compatible? not yet. i think later in life it became _ wasn't compatible? not yet. i think later in life it became more - later in life it became more compatible. in different stages of life it _ compatible. in different stages of life it has — compatible. in different stages of life it has been a challenge. i life it has been a challenge. think if life it has been a challenge. i think if you are face of the question of how un—are going through this, how to combine at this thing. i have studied medicine and hiding specialised yet. i had to do further training _ specialised yet. i had to do further training to — specialised yet. i had to do further training to be a doctor. i thought how could — training to be a doctor. i thought how could i— training to be a doctor. i thought how could i do that if i was a mum. i how could i do that if i was a mum. ifeit _ how could i do that if i was a mum. ifeit guilty — how could i do that if i was a mum. i felt guilty having those two aspects _ i felt guilty having those two aspects of life. how would they come together? _ aspects of life. how would they come together? i_ aspects of life. how would they come together? i wasn't sure about that. socioiogist — together? i wasn't sure about that. sociologist caitlin collins interviewed dozens of mothers to understand more about how this clash plays out in the workforce. i understand more about how this clash plays out in the workforce.— plays out in the workforce. i think women unfortunately _ plays out in the workforce. i think women unfortunately feel- plays out in the workforce. i think women unfortunately feel like - plays out in the workforce. i think. women unfortunately feel like they are failing all the time, and is that sense of abandon and perpetual failure that i think it leads to abundant stress, exhaustion, burn—out amongst american mothers today as well as those in other countries. today as well as those in other countries— today as well as those in other countries. ., ., ., , countries. you have to be patient all day and _ countries. you have to be patient all day and after _ countries. you have to be patient all day and after a _ countries. you have to be patient all day and after a while - countries. you have to be patient all day and after a while it - countries. you have to be patient all day and after a while it builds| all day and after a while it builds up all day and after a while it builds up and it creates a fight or flight response. i can feel the stress building up. response. i can feel the stress building up-— response. i can feel the stress building up.- and - response. i can feel the stress building up. yes. and then when they are aslee - , building up. yes. and then when they are asleep, it is forgotten again. there is a beautiful moment when you look at _ there is a beautiful moment when you look at you _ there is a beautiful moment when you look at you likely are totally in love _ look at you likely are totally in love with _ look at you likely are totally in love with you, and to feel that. the united states _ love with you, and to feel that. iie united states has the love with you, and to feel that. t“ij: united states has the most fine tomato family hostel family policy in the western industrialised world. among dutch mums, stress might be less because we have a long maternity leave, 16 weeks, but long compared _ maternity leave, 16 weeks, but long compared to the us was up we have no put paternal— compared to the us was up we have no put paternal tomato parental leave. that means many people work right up until they have of their baby. many women told me they were responding to e—mails on their phones when they were having contractions in hospital. that is not normal. latte hospital. that is not normal. we have four _ hospital. that is not normal. we have four weeks before childbirth you have — have four weeks before childbirth you have to take. not every mother might— you have to take. not every mother might need — you have to take. not every mother might need the loose forwards. i worked _ might need the loose forwards. i worked until childbirth, but not at the office. — worked until childbirth, but not at the office, at home. that helps differently in the loose forwards. i worked _ differently in the loose forwards. i worked until childbirth, but not at the office. — worked until childbirth, but not at the office, at home. that helps differently and coming down and making — differently and coming down and making your physiologically a little more _ making your physiologically a little more relaxed without also and that first week — more relaxed without also and that first week you have helped in your house. _ first week you have helped in your house. that — first week you have helped in your house, that is the maternity nurse. the united — house, that is the maternity nurse. the united states has no universal child, no universal shows as entitlement, no federal minimum standard for vacation and sick days. this means in the us most parents have to adopt private solutions to reconcile their caregiving of their paid employment. when we leave it up to individual parents to reconcile these competing demands, what we get is disparity we between typically wealthier more educated workers, who can secure they facilities that open the hours that they were to help for their kids will stop it is lower income, vulnerable hourly age workers who need access to these policies, but at the same time are at least likely to have access to them. ., ., , ., , them. there are lots of things different in — them. there are lots of things different in our— them. there are lots of things different in our culture - them. there are lots of things i different in our culture compared them. there are lots of things - different in our culture compared to the us— different in our culture compared to the us in— different in our culture compared to the us in terms of mother stress. going _ the us in terms of mother stress. going back— the us in terms of mother stress. going back to work as after 16 weeks — going back to work as after 16 weeks. for most of our mothers that isjust_ weeks. for most of our mothers that isjust for— weeks. for most of our mothers that isjust for two or three weeks. for most of our mothers that is just for two or three days a week — is just for two or three days a week it _ is just for two or three days a week it is _ is just for two or three days a week. it is not all positive, that also _ week. it is not all positive, that also has — week. it is not all positive, that also has downsides. 0ur child system is good _ also has downsides. 0ur child system is good but _ also has downsides. 0ur child system is good but it could be better. but the positive side is that our culture _ the positive side is that our culture might be a little more family— culture might be a little more family focus and a little less work focus _ family focus and a little less work focus that — family focus and a little less work focus that the us. 30 family focus and a little less work focus that the us.— family focus and a little less work focus that the us. so they are these com ttetin focus that the us. so they are these competing cultural _ focus that the us. so they are these competing cultural expectations, . focus that the us. so they are these | competing cultural expectations, and that you have got these intensive mothering expectations that say all of your time, energy, attention and money should be invested and your children's well—being. being caught between these cultural ideals really leaves women are feeling overwhelmed, exhausted, burned out. to be honest, tremendously guilty. i have interviewed working mothers in the us, as well as sweden, germany and italy, and i do have is to say here in the us working mothers really stood apart in the amount of guilt that they express to me and feeling these competing cultural norms and feeling caught in the middle of them, they felt this double bind they were failing on the job and their children. to me, this gets to the heart of my matters of why we study motherhood. i can't tell you how many times i sat down with mothers, whether at the dining room table, their living room, or in a cafe near their work, or maybe even at their office in the middle of the workday, and mums told broke down in tears, telling me they felt they were failing their children. there is not a focus on work to stop their— there is not a focus on work to stop their art— there is not a focus on work to stop their art in— there is not a focus on work to stop theirart in some there is not a focus on work to stop their art in some jobs obviously and some _ their art in some jobs obviously and some areas. — their art in some jobs obviously and some areas, but i think in general we don't _ some areas, but i think in general we don't have that. i think if people — we don't have that. i think if people have that choice, but unfortunately lots of people don't, but if _ unfortunately lots of people don't, but if they— unfortunately lots of people don't, but if they do, they would choose to work a _ but if they do, they would choose to work a little — but if they do, they would choose to work a little less. i think you'll see more _ work a little less. i think you'll see more parents of these days working — see more parents of these days working four days a week more than ten years— working four days a week more than ten years ago. i think it is fine going — ten years ago. i think it is fine going home at four or five, is ok as lon- going home at four or five, is ok as long as _ going home at four or five, is ok as long as you — going home at four or five, is ok as long as you put in your hours, which is 40 _ long as you put in your hours, which is 40 hours — long as you put in your hours, which is 40 hours a — long as you put in your hours, which is 40 hours a week. we don't have a culture _ is 40 hours a week. we don't have a culture that — is 40 hours a week. we don't have a culture that stresses excellence, so you don't _ culture that stresses excellence, so you don't have to excel. that makes life a _ you don't have to excel. that makes life a little _ you don't have to excel. that makes life a little bit easier. if you don't — life a little bit easier. if you don't have to excel, whether at work or parenthood, or any sports or anything. — or parenthood, or any sports or anything. if— or parenthood, or any sports or anything, if you canjust be sure you are, — anything, if you canjust be sure you are, and that's fine, that makes life easier — if you are you, that's fine, you don't — if you are you, that's fine, you don't have _ if you are you, that's fine, you don't have to be anybody else, you don't _ don't have to be anybody else, you don't have — don't have to be anybody else, you don't have to be anybody else, you don't have to be anybody else, you don't have to be extreme, you don't have to _ don't have to be extreme, you don't have to he _ don't have to be extreme, you don't have to be excellent. just being normal — have to be excellent. just being normal is — have to be excellent. just being normal is ok.— have to be excellent. just being normal is ok. . ., , normal is ok. having grown up in the uk and peering _ normal is ok. having grown up in the uk and peering in _ normal is ok. having grown up in the uk and peering in from _ normal is ok. having grown up in the uk and peering in from the _ normal is ok. having grown up in the uk and peering in from the outside, l uk and peering in from the outside, there are other benefits of dutch culture back to me like a parenting seem a little less stressful. that is close proximity _ seem a little less stressful. that is close proximity to _ seem a little less stressful. that is close proximity to what - seem a little less stressful. that is close proximity to what is your own parents often. no such people don't _ own parents often. no such people don't have — own parents often. no such people don't have to take a flight to visit their— don't have to take a flight to visit their parents, which is a huge difference with the us. it their parents, which is a huge difference with the us. it takes a villa . e to difference with the us. it takes a village to raise _ difference with the us. it takes a village to raise a _ difference with the us. it takes a village to raise a child. _ difference with the us. it takes a village to raise a child. i - difference with the us. it takes a village to raise a child. i think. difference with the us. it takes a village to raise a child. i think in| village to raise a child. i think in at the past it was more common that at the past it was more common that a man that had support from her own mother, orsisters a man that had support from her own mother, or sisters —— that a mother had support from her own mother. i also learned an intriguing concept of three themes that researchers say contributes to dutch kids being a mostly happy is in the world. luntimely mostly happy is in the world. when it stems from. _ mostly happy is in the world. when it stems from, it _ mostly happy is in the world. when it stems from, it is _ mostly happy is in the world. when it stems from, it is 100 _ mostly happy is in the world. when it stems from, it is 100 years - mostly happy is in the world. when it stems from, it is 100 years old. | it stems from, it is 100 years old. it it stems from, it is 100 years old. it was _ it stems from, it is 100 years old. it was from — it stems from, it is 100 years old. it was from a _ it stems from, it is 100 years old. it was from a paediatrician who wrote _ it was from a paediatrician who wrote a — it was from a paediatrician who wrote a book about resting and happiness, he makes the link very clearly— happiness, he makes the link very clearly 128— happiness, he makes the link very clearly 128 years ago. rest happiness, he makes the link very clearly 128 years ago.— clearly 128 years ago. rest in regularity _ clearly 128 years ago. rest in regularity is _ clearly 128 years ago. rest in regularity is not _ clearly 128 years ago. rest in regularity is not only - clearly 128 years ago. rest in regularity is not only great i clearly 128 years ago. rest in - regularity is not only great advice it is also an excellent example of how adaptable societies are and how quickly societal norms can be changed when they improve people's lies. ~., , changed when they improve people's lies. , ~ . changed when they improve people's lies. i: , , .,, lies. many western industrialised countries have _ lies. many western industrialised countries have implemented - lies. many western industrialised countries have implemented a i lies. many western industrialised . countries have implemented a series of family policies, like paid parental leave, high quality affordable universal child, and a series of benefits like robust paid vacation and sick days to help parents reconcile paid work with caregiving. latte parents reconcile paid work with caregiving-— parents reconcile paid work with carettivin. ~ ., . ., caregiving. we need to change the narrative from _ caregiving. we need to change the narrative from early _ caregiving. we need to change the narrative from early on, _ caregiving. we need to change the narrative from early on, even - caregiving. we need to change the i narrative from early on, even before pregnancy. — narrative from early on, even before pregnancy just _ narrative from early on, even before pregnancy just that _ narrative from early on, even before pregnancy, just that general - narrative from early on, even before pregnancy, just that general social. pregnancy, just that general social narrative _ pregnancy, just that general social narrative of— pregnancy, just that general social narrative of what _ pregnancy, just that general social narrative of what birth _ pregnancy, just that general social narrative of what birth and - narrative of what birth and pregnancy _ narrative of what birth and pregnancy should - narrative of what birth and pregnancy should be - narrative of what birth and pregnancy should be like. | narrative of what birth andl pregnancy should be like. i narrative of what birth and - pregnancy should be like. i think also being — pregnancy should be like. i think also being aware _ pregnancy should be like. i think also being aware this _ pregnancy should be like. i think also being aware this experience pregnancy should be like. i think. also being aware this experience is very different — also being aware this experience is very different for— also being aware this experience is very different for different - very different for different individuals. _ very different for different individuals.— very different for different individuals. ., ., ,, . ,, ., very different for different individuals. ., ., individuals. looking back, what are ou individuals. looking back, what are you grateful _ individuals. looking back, what are you grateful for _ individuals. looking back, what are you grateful for in _ individuals. looking back, what are you grateful for in terms _ individuals. looking back, what are you grateful for in terms of- individuals. looking back, what are you grateful for in terms of the - you grateful for in terms of the fact that you are able to have three children, be mother? 51am fact that you are able to have three children, be mother?— children, be mother? such a lovely thin to children, be mother? such a lovely thing to be — children, be mother? such a lovely thing to be a _ children, be mother? such a lovely thing to be a mum. _ children, be mother? such a lovely thing to be a mum. it's— children, be mother? such a lovely thing to be a mum. it's a _ children, be mother? such a lovely thing to be a mum. it's a lovely, i thing to be a mum. it's a lovely, you're here with your grandchildren. that's sweet. if you haven't guessed, moffat is of course my own mother. when it comes to parenting, i have learned a lot from her, such as a gentle nudges that emphasise the importance of rest, and being a calm, reliable presence. but some of the expectations of some others still seems impossible to reach, so there remains a long way to go to make the motherhood experience of home is filled with less stress and more joy. home is filled with less stress and morejoy. 0nly home is filled with less stress and more joy. only then will we recognise how extraordinary motherhood as i place greater value on the parents who are nurturing the next generation. hello, good afternoon. a pretty mixed saturday weather—wise so far. we have seen some brightness and sunshine in places, many more of us have had extensive cloud to the radar reveals that the spots of rain it really clinging on across parts of east anglia and at the south—east, and some heavier rain making its way into the western side of northern ireland. that will split into south—western parts of scotland through the afternoon. not for scotland to see some sunshine, parts of england and wales brightening up as well. generally speaking for many of us feeling a little milder than it did yesterday. through this evening and tonight, rain rolls its way eastwards and southwards, particularly heavy rain across the southern half of scotland, parts of northern england. a mild night for most of us, a little chilly in on the far north where the skies remain clear. a lot of cloud tomorrow, some abbots of rain at times, and it settles that the new week, but a mild one also, temperatures up to 20 degrees. this is bbc news. i'm lukwesa burak. the latest headline. side by side in grief — the prime minister and leader of the opposition visit the scene where tory mp sir david amess was killed yesterday. police say they're treating the killing as a terrorist incident — as tributes are paid from across politics. he was a man of the people, he was absolutely there for everyone. he was a much loved parliamentarian. to me he was a dear and loyalfriend. the killing has resurfaced the dilemma facing mps over security at their surgeries — and whether it would be safer to hold them virtually.

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