and minds fixed on trying to repair this planet, not trying to find the next place to go and live. wales midfielder david brooks, reveals he's been diagnosed with cancer. the 24—year—old who plays for bournemouth, says he has stage 2 hodgkin lymphoma, and will begin a course of treatment next week. good morning. today once again is going to be a fairly cloudy day with limited sunny spells. heavy rain in the north of scotland slipping south. strong winds with it and cooler behind it. details coming up. good morning. it's thursday, the 14th of october. our main story. gp practices in england are being offered an extra £250 million this winter, to help them see more patients in person. but the doctors' union has criticised a plan to publish league tables on face—to—face appointments, saying it'll cause more gps to leave the profession. here's our health reporter, jim reed. so i got your message just now about the pain in your knee, yeah? the pandemic has changed the way many of us access a gp. for some, telephone and online consultations have replaced face—to—face appointments. under these plans the government says £250 million will be made available to boost access to family doctors in england. it's meant to pay for more temporary or locum gps, as well as support staff like physiotherapists. there is a promise to cut some red tape and more cash for security at a time when doctors say they are dealing with high levels of abuse. social distancing rules for gps are also being reviewed, which could allow more patient in waiting rooms. in a statement the health secretary said, "i am determined to ensure patients can see their gp in the way they want, no matter where they live." the new cash for gps though is part of a £5 billion covid fund already announced by ministers to get the nhs through this winter. the doctors' union says the package does not go nearly far enough. after weeks of promising an emergency package to rescue general practice, we are acutely disappointed that whilst additional funding has been promised, and there is talk about addressing abuse and talking up the benefits of general practice, the package as a whole offers so little and shows a government completely out of touch with what the scale of the crisis really is on the ground for general practice. the extra support for gps in england comes as waiting times in hospital a&e units have also been rising across the uk. the group which represents nhs trusts, is warning today of the most challenging winter yet for the health service. jim reed, bbc news. let's speak to our political correspondent, chris mason. morning, chris. so, the idea of more face—to—face appointments, 0k, some patients have been asking for that. what some gps reacting saying they are doing the best they can at the moment? yes. best they can at the moment? yes, aood best they can at the moment? yes, good morning- _ best they can at the moment? yes, good morning. the _ best they can at the moment? yes, good morning. the government has latched _ good morning. the government has latched onto a sense, there have been _ latched onto a sense, there have been used — latched onto a sense, there have been used come —— newspaper campaigns— been used come —— newspaper campaigns about it, the gp surgeries around _ campaigns about it, the gp surgeries around england have been too slow in moving _ around england have been too slow in moving back to a kind of pre—pandemic approach to appointments. the health secretary makes _ appointments. the health secretary makes the argument to one of the newspapers this morning that there is a valuable role for a kind of digital— is a valuable role for a kind of digital first approach, that quite a lot of— digital first approach, that quite a lot of appointments can be done over the phone _ lot of appointments can be done over the phone or over the tablet, or whateven — the phone or over the tablet, or whatever. but that there shouldn't be too _ whatever. but that there shouldn't be too many blockages standing between you and me ringing our gp and actually physically being able to go— and actually physically being able to go in— and actually physically being able to go in there and see them face—to—face. so a definite change of tone _ face—to—face. so a definite change of tone from sajid javid compared to his predecessor matt hancock. mr javid would argue that times have changed. — javid would argue that times have changed, which are busy limitations on face—to—face contact have eased. and as _ on face—to—face contact have eased. and as you _ on face—to—face contact have eased. and as you say, real concern from gps, _ and as you say, real concern from gps, who— and as you say, real concern from gps, who are _ and as you say, real concern from gps, who are saying, look, this is a profession— gps, who are saying, look, this is a profession already under immense pressure. — profession already under immense pressure, with lots and lots of gps choosing _ pressure, with lots and lots of gps choosing to — pressure, with lots and lots of gps choosing to leave it. as we heard in the report, — choosing to leave it. as we heard in the report, plenty of doctors saying this really— the report, plenty of doctors saying this really only scratches the surface — this really only scratches the surface of the problems we face providing — surface of the problems we face providing general practice and if it is nowhere — providing general practice and if it is nowhere good enough. thank you, chris. and we'll speak to the health secretary sajid javid at half past seven. police in norway say five people have been killed, and two injured, by a man armed with a bow and arrow. some of the casualties were found in a supermarket in the town of kongsberg, south—west of oslo. a 37—year—old danish man is in custody. the norwegian prime minister described the attack as horrifying. the chancellor rishi sunak has said british shoppers should be confident there will be enough presents on the shelves for christmas, despite a logjam at the uk's biggest commercial port, felixstowe. he added that the government is doing everything it can to keep supplies moving. the chancellor has been speaking to our economics editor, faisal islam. for a second year the government is having to talk about saving christmas. this year it's the difficulties in global trade that are leading to tens of containers full of imports stuck off the coast of britain, with too few drivers available to drive them on the last leg of theirjourney. it's not unique to britain, but of the chancellor, in washington, says the whole world can face up to the problems of an economy on the rebound from the pandemic lockdowns. well, i tell people to be reassured that we are doing absolutely everything we can to mitigate some of these challenges. they are global in nature, so we can't fix every single problem, but i feel confident there will be good provision of goods for everybody. i'm confident there will be a good amount of christmas presents available for everyone to buy. but it's notjust the container crisis. with energies prices surging too, more providers going bust and heavy industry begging for support, the chancellor was more guarded. if high gas prices put some heavy industry out of business, is thatjust the market working? do we have to accept that? are you going to accept that as chancellor? well, i think as people have seen over the past year we are prepared to work with business and support them as required. it wouldn't be appropriate for me to comment on the particular situation of any individual company. but in general i believe in a market economy. it's served us very well in this country. it's not the government's job to come in and start managing the price of every single individual product. many of his problems are being faced by all the finance ministers in the major world economies, with the germans fearful of what they call a bottleneck recession. from shipping lanes to restaurants to car factories, there are astonishing things happening in the world economy right now. and not even here, with the world's most important finance ministers, are they truly sure how this is going to settle down. they hope that it will prove temporary and that inflation, the rising prices and the shortages, will stop. but they can't be sure. consumers will be protected, but the government can't stretch that promise to businesses. faisal islam, bbc news in washington, dc. robert webb has said he deeply regrets having to withdraw from strictly come dancing due to ill health. the actor, who had open heart surgery two years ago, said he thought he was fit enough to take part, but, after learning and rehearsing three dances, it became clear he'd "bitten off more than he could chew". his professional dance partner dianne buswell said she feels lucky to call him a friend, and wished him a speedy recovery. not many works of art will treble in value if you put them through a shredding machine, but that's what's expected to happen to a banksy painting today. you may remember this moment from 2018, when the painting called girl with balloon dropped into a hidden shredder when it had just been sold for more than £1 million. the work, now renamed love in a bin, is being auctioned at sotheby�*s today, where its expected to fetch well over three and a half million pounds. i must say, even seeing those pictures now, my heart sinks. it’s pictures now, my heart sinks. it's absolutely _ pictures now, my heart sinks. it's absolutely agony because it is how slowly everything unfolds. i absolutely agony because it is how slowly everything unfolds.- slowly everything unfolds. i didn't like it. i slowly everything unfolds. i didn't like it. i didn't— slowly everything unfolds. i didn't like it. i didn't like _ slowly everything unfolds. i didn't like it. i didn't like it. _ slowly everything unfolds. i didn't like it. | didn't like it. but- slowly everything unfolds. i didn't like it. i didn't like it. but it - slowly everything unfolds. i didn't like it. i didn't like it. but it is - like it. i didn't like it. but it is art. it's all interpretive. as is carol's weather. interpret that however you fancy. morning, carol. good morning. this morning if you are out early, watch out for a summerfog. some of it is really dense, especially across south—west england. a chilly start for some. south—west england. a chilly start forsome. for south—west england. a chilly start for some. for most it's not. a lot of cloud around. it will turn when you're in the far north of scotland. you can see the extent of the cloud cover. some breaks, which is where the temperature has fallen away overnight. still the odd spot of rain. the heavy rain will be coming in from the north of scotland, sinking southwards into southern scotland and northern ireland by the middle of the afternoon. gusty winds across the very far north. behind this front it is going to turn that bit cooler and we could see some wintriness on the tops of the hills. but ahead of it, still in the mild air, we are looking at 16 or 17 degrees. as we head through the evening and overnight the weather front continues to sink south, taking its rain with it. clearer skies follow behind. it is going to be a cold night in the north of the country with some frost, especially in sheltered glens. we are still in the comparatively milder air, with overnight lows around ten or ii overnight lows around ten or 11 degrees. as we move into tomorrow, the weather front will still be with us as a weak feature. it will continue to sink southwards. you may find the odd spot of rain. it will hang on to a fair bit of cloud in south wales coming to parts of southern england and the channel islands. you will hang on to the higher temperatures here. as we push further north it will turn colder thanit further north it will turn colder than it has been. quite a difference in the temperatures. aberdeen is 80 compared to st helier, which is at 16. it will turn a wee bit warmer on saturday and sunday. carol, thank you so much. the energy firm pure planet is the latest to go out of business, blaming rising energy costs and the government's price cap. there were lots of warnings they would be more energy companies that were going to go? yes, and that has come to fruition. another— yes, and that has come to fruition. another couple of firms say the price _ another couple of firms say the price cap — another couple of firms say the price cap means they can't afford to stay in _ price cap means they can't afford to stay in business because they can't pass that _ stay in business because they can't pass that on to other people. thank you. yes, the news came yesterday evening that pure planet simply couldn't afford to stay in business. the firm supplied gas and electricity to around 235,000 homes. colorado energy also announced it would stop trading. they had 15,000 customers. now 11 energy firms have now gone bust since — now 11 energy firms have now gone bust since september. it's because of rising wholesale gas prices, up 250% since january. the energy price cap, which is set by 0fgem, means firms have been unable to pass the full cost increases on to customers, and have been struggling to stay in business. pure planet's founders have criticised the governent's response to the crisis, and say more energy firms will go bust unless they get help. it is the biggest supplier to go out of business so far. a notable element of pure planet is that they ultimately had backing from bp and we were expecting them to be more stable as a result of the relationship with bp in terms of some of the big oil companies are investing in the electricity market because they see the energy transition moving away from fossil fuels, they want to get into the energy market and learn about how it works. fora big major energy market and learn about how it works. for a big major player like that to step away is quite symbolic of their concern over long—term structural challenges with the energy market rather than a short—term issue. short-term issue. the longer term issues are — short-term issue. the longer term issues are the _ short-term issue. the longer term issues are the ones _ short-term issue. the longer term issues are the ones everybody - short-term issue. the longer term issues are the ones everybody is l issues are the ones everybody is concerned — issues are the ones everybody is concerned about. what happens if your energy firm has gone bust? don't _ your energy firm has gone bust? don't worry, your supply won't be affected — don't worry, your supply won't be affected. you will be supplied —— transferred to a new supplier automatically. that firm will get in contact _ automatically. that firm will get in contact with you. it could take a few weeks. 0fgem says the price cap will limit _ few weeks. 0fgem says the price cap will limit your costs, but it is pretty— will limit your costs, but it is pretty likely that you will end up on a more — pretty likely that you will end up on a more expensive tariff. if you are no— on a more expensive tariff. if you are no fixed — on a more expensive tariff. if you are no fixed deal, for example, with your old _ are no fixed deal, for example, with your old firm, you will not necessarily get that when you move to your _ necessarily get that when you move to your new — necessarily get that when you move to your new firm. it could mean your prices _ to your new firm. it could mean your prices go _ to your new firm. it could mean your prices go up — to your new firm. it could mean your prices go up even though they are still protected by the price cap. it could _ still protected by the price cap. it could mean a rather expensive winter if you _ could mean a rather expensive winter if you turn _ could mean a rather expensive winter if you turn the heating on. definitely. lots of people will be worried about that. thank you. let's take a look at some of today's papers. we'll start with the norwegian newspaper aftenpolten. its website has pictures of police teams on the streets of kongsberg, where yesterday's fatal bow and arrow attacks took place. we'll be speaking to a norwegian journalist at half past six to get the latest details. the guardian reports that the eu was last night preparing for the worst, amid signs that the uk could reject their offer to remove most of the checks on goods coming into northern ireland, and insist on even greater changes to the protocol. the actor william shatner�*s trip to the edge of space is a cause for celebration on many of the front pages. if you thought all the puns on that story had been used up, the express has gone for star's trek. i'm not sure if that is the strongest point to go for. and the most read article on the bbc news website is about a bakery which has had to stop making one of its most popular biscuits, because it was using illegal sprinkles from the us. get baked in leeds paused production after trading standards said the product contained a banned additive. the bakery owner says british sprinkles are "rubbish". well, i'm not sure about that. i've never had any complaints about the sprinkle i sprinkle when i'm sprinting. sprinkle i sprinkle when i'm sprinting-— sprinkle i sprinkle when i'm srintina. �* ., sprinting. i've never even thought about where _ sprinting. i've never even thought about where the _ sprinting. i've never even thought about where the sprinkles - sprinting. i've never even thought about where the sprinkles come l sprinting. i've never even thought - about where the sprinkles come from. well, there are british sprinkles. it's very difficult to say. have we got anything inside? it's very difficult to say. have we gotanything inside? mr; it's very difficult to say. have we got anything inside? my attention was drawn to _ got anything inside? my attention was drawn to a _ got anything inside? my attention was drawn to a story, _ got anything inside? my attention was drawn to a story, people - got anything inside? my attention was drawn to a story, people may got anything inside? my attention i was drawn to a story, people may be familiar with this already. i'm slow on the uptake. it is a new film coming out in november. ijust like the sound of this film. this is sir mark rylands as maurice flitcroft, who was this extraordinary character dubbed the world's worst golfer. he was a grain operator from barrow—in—furness. 1976, this was. he managed to spoof his way into the open golf championship. this is a story you are probably well familiar with. i love the idea of this. this is a shot of him and his kid. i am mindful that afterjames bond, we are always very excited about the james bond movie and all that delivered, the critic in the times is just saying this has got a whole different feel to it. a fantastic cast. sir mark rylands, sally phillips. it says it is in danger of going into the eddie the eagle territory in terms of the film but it is full of praise. in the end of justice says the film is warm, funny, quite silly and very, very slight. in my head i'm thinking, quite a lot of people at the moment would probably like to see a film like this. , , ., . ,, like this. yes, when you get back into the groove _ like this. yes, when you get back into the groove of _ like this. yes, when you get back into the groove of going - like this. yes, when you get back into the groove of going to - like this. yes, when you get back into the groove of going to the i into the groove of going to the cinema, you've had your kind of big james bond experience, now it's like we can enjoy it a little bit more. i want to say congratulations to sir eltonjohn, who has become the first actor to score a uk top ten single in six different decades. that is some achievement, isn't it? the song is cold hard, a collaboration with you leeper. it was last year, november, kylie minogue became the first woman to top the album chart in each five consecutive decades. it is the longevity of these stars. and i have a great picture. a double year. what do you see? it i have a great picture. a double year. what do you see? it looks like a turtle with — year. what do you see? it looks like a turtle with two _ year. what do you see? it looks like a turtle with two heads. _ year. what do you see? it looks like a turtle with two heads. a _ year. what do you see? it looks like a turtle with two heads. a two - a turtle with two heads. a two headed diamond _ a turtle with two heads. a two headed diamond back- a turtle with two heads. a two headed diamond back terrapin a turtle with two heads. a two i headed diamond back terrapin in massachusetts. it is two weeks old. two heads, six legs. i know. ifind it quite mesmerised in. —— mesmerising. two legs here, two legs there, and two at the back. itjust kind of caught my eye. {lilli there, and two at the back. it 'ust kind of caught my eye. on reaching down here because _ kind of caught my eye. on reaching down here because there _ kind of caught my eye. on reaching down here because there has - kind of caught my eye. on reaching down here because there has been| kind of caught my eye. on reaching l down here because there has been a lot of coverage of william shatner going into space. there is a lot of interest in how this went. basically, captain kirk are going to space, 90 years old. there was a glorious fascination in seeing how it was. when he landed back down, and we will see a bit more of it later on, he was very philosophical. people who have been to space on the whole know a lot about space and they talk about it in technical terms. he talks about it in a very different way, talking about the darkness and life and death. it was all quite philosophical. we will hear more about that later on. shes it hear more about that later on. as it would be. hear more about that later on. as it would be- 18 _ hear more about that later on. as it would be. 18 minutes _ hear more about that later on. 12: it would be. 18 minutes past six. to have one professional footballer in the family is impressive. to repeat that feat over three generations is something else entirely. the former england and arsenal striker ian wright, his son shaun wright—phillips and grandson d'margio wright—phillips — who plays for stoke under—23s — have done just that. they've also made a short film called three generations: football, family, and black excellence, nesta mcgregor went to meet them. it's one of the things that i worry about most in my life at the moment, is d'margio and how he's getting on. it's nice, man, we're going up to stoke. the pressure of a grandad, a dad, an uncle all playing in the premier league, dad, granddad won the premier league, and now people are looking at him seeing what is happening with him. there is a ball. bang, bang! 0h! the chances of being a professional footballer are less than 1%. so for three generations to have done it is remarkable. have you watched grainy footage... he's through here. it's wright for arsenal. and it's a goal for arsenal. ian wright yet again. ..less grainy footage of these guys? have you learnt anything from them? is there any bits of your game that resemble? i watched a couple of highlights and stuff, and obviously my dad's football clips showing my games. obviously i can't play striker yet, but i'll sometimes see them. d'margio is like similar to shaun. he is more laid—back than me. he's much more laid—back. is he quicker? no chance! i think he's quicker. he's quicker than me now! no, no, i'm quicker, man. not now, just sitting here, of course he is. he asked to race me one time when i was still- doing a bit in america. - and he waited until i got... he waited until i got _ old and he said, all right, i will race you know and we can film it! left foot. here it is. there no power. all that you've achieved, ian, three generations of footballers, where does that rank? that's it, mate. that is it, nesta. in respects of, if i'm thinking of myself as an eight—year—old wanting to play football, then finally get through with the journey that i had to actually finally get through, coming off an estate and everything, to know that i would be sitting here with my son and my grandson, it's quite mind blowing stuff because it's not really... i can't stop smiling at d'margio doing stuff. do you know what i mean? all the nerves come back now. i have to worry about him now. but other than that it's an amazing leg, feeling for me. euro 2020 final, rashford, sancho and saka, was that different for you to watch then, being a parent and a black footballer? i had a different nervousness than any white english fans. because i know for a fact that if they miss it's going to be a problem. so, that is the sad situation about it. with everything what that team does, what that england team represents, what that manager, that brilliant manager and the way he is so consciously aware of everything that's going on, we all knew what was coming, and that was pretty sad. that was a sad situation for me. you've probably all experienced it. is it something you have set down as a family and spoken about, and advised how to do we are sitting here. i've been through it. shaun has been through it. d'margio, if we are going to be really honest about stuff, he will probably go through it, if we are going to be totally honest, and we are being honest with each other. but when you speak to d'margio about his friends and his team—mates know, they all know how to deal with it. they've got support. i didn't have support. shaun didn't have support. do you feel that empowered now by what's happening? yes. do you feel that empowered now by what's happening?— what's happening? yes, i know i'm auoin to what's happening? yes, i know i'm going to get _ what's happening? yes, i know i'm going to get my _ what's happening? yes, i know i'm going to get my support, _ what's happening? yes, i know i'm going to get my support, whether. what's happening? yes, i know i'm| going to get my support, whether it is my— going to get my support, whether it is my choice — going to get my support, whether it is my choice or— going to get my support, whether it is my choice or the _ going to get my support, whether it is my choice or the manager- going to get my support, whether it is my choice or the manager was. going to get my support, whether it| is my choice or the manager was my choice _ is my choice or the manager was my choice. , ., ., , ., choice. so, yeah. that is the great thing about _ choice. so, yeah. that is the great thing about it. _ choice. so, yeah. that is the great thing about it. now _ choice. so, yeah. that is the great thing about it. now it _ choice. so, yeah. that is the great thing about it. now it is _ choice. so, yeah. that is the great thing about it. now it is kind - choice. so, yeah. that is the great thing about it. now it is kind of. thing about it. now it is kind of putting — thing about it. now it is kind of putting the players's perspective. if putting the players's perspective. if they _ putting the players's perspective. if they feel uncomfortable with one of their— if they feel uncomfortable with one of their players being racially abused, _ of their players being racially abused, they can walk off the pitch. back in— abused, they can walk off the pitch. back in our— abused, they can walk off the pitch. back in our day if we had done that we most _ back in our day if we had done that we most probably would not have played _ we most probably would not have played. we didn't know how it would have turned out. none of us wanted to lose _ have turned out. none of us wanted to lose that — have turned out. none of us wanted to lose that position.— have turned out. none of us wanted to lose that position. when you look down the years _ to lose that position. when you look down the years what _ to lose that position. when you look down the years what you _ to lose that position. when you look down the years what you will - to lose that position. when you look down the years what you will see - to lose that position. when you look down the years what you will see is| down the years what you will see is that black players getting racially abused and everybodyjust getting on with it. i have been racially abused. you going to a dressing room and you are like, just score a goal and you are like, just score a goal and it will be all right. in respect of a white person standing up for you like that, that is how it is going to be eradicated. d'margio, who is your _ going to be eradicated. d'margio, who is your sporting _ going to be eradicated. d'margio, who is your sporting hero? - going to be eradicated. d'margio, who is your sporting hero? my - going to be eradicated. d'margio, i who is your sporting hero? my dad, eah, m who is your sporting hero? my dad, yeah. my dad- _ who is your sporting hero? my dad, yeah, my dad. because _ who is your sporting hero? my dad, yeah, my dad. because he - who is your sporting hero? my dad, yeah, my dad. because he has - yeah, my dad. because he has obviously— yeah, my dad. because he has obviously always— yeah, my dad. because he has obviously always looked - yeah, my dad. because he has obviously always looked after. yeah, my dad. because he has. obviously always looked after me yeah, my dad. because he has- obviously always looked after me and always _ obviously always looked after me and always told _ obviously always looked after me and always told me — obviously always looked after me and always told me what _ obviously always looked after me and always told me what is _ obviously always looked after me and always told me what is right - obviously always looked after me and always told me what is right and - always told me what is right and wrong _ always told me what is right and wrong and — always told me what is right and wrong and guided _ always told me what is right and wrong and guided me _ always told me what is right and wrong and guided me through . always told me what is right and - wrong and guided me through football as a young _ wrong and guided me through football as a young kid — wrong and guided me through football as a young kid. that _ wrong and guided me through football as a young kid. that is _ wrong and guided me through football as a young kid. that is why— wrong and guided me through football as a young kid. that is why i— wrong and guided me through football as a young kid. that is why i am - as a young kid. that is why i am here _ as a young kid. that is why i am here today _ as a young kid. that is why i am here today-— as a young kid. that is why i am here today. the person that i did look u- here today. the person that i did look up to _ here today. the person that i did look up to in _ here today. the person that i did look up to in my _ here today. the person that i did look up to in my position - here today. the person that i did look up to in my position as - here today. the person that i did look up to in my position as a - look up to in my position as a winger. — look up to in my position as a winger, one of them, was paul merson 'ust winger, one of them, was paul merson just because _ winger, one of them, was paul merson just because of the way he played. heroes _ just because of the way he played. heroes in — just because of the way he played. heroes in general would be people like dad _ heroes in general would be people like dad and andy cole. heroes in generalwould be people like dad and andy cole.— like dad and andy cole. cyrille reuis, like dad and andy cole. cyrille regis. no _ like dad and andy cole. cyrille regis, no doubt _ like dad and andy cole. cyrille regis, no doubt about - like dad and andy cole. cyrille regis, no doubt about it. - like dad and andy cole. cyrille regis, no doubt about it. we l like dad and andy cole. cyrille - regis, no doubt about it. we could see if physical representation of ourselves at a time when you didn't think it was going to happen. shaun being able to have someone like paul merson, who, when i went into the arsenal dressing room, was one of the best players i thought i would ever see. the best players i thought i would eversee. i the best players i thought i would ever see. i love the fact it is a wide player because he doesn't have to worry about the fact there is no black representation. do to worry about the fact there is no black representation.— black representation. do you feel an of black representation. do you feel any of that _ black representation. do you feel any of that pressure? _ black representation. do you feel any of that pressure? do - black representation. do you feel any of that pressure? do you - black representation. do you feel| any of that pressure? do you have black representation. do you feel. any of that pressure? do you have a different game? i any of that pressure? do you have a different game?— different game? i don't really feel ressure different game? i don't really feel pressure because _ different game? i don't really feel pressure because i _ different game? i don't really feel pressure because i look _ different game? i don't really feel pressure because i look at - different game? i don't really feel pressure because i look at it - different game? i don't really feel pressure because i look at it as i different game? i don't really feel| pressure because i look at it as my grandad _ pressure because i look at it as my grandad and — pressure because i look at it as my grandad and my— pressure because i look at it as my grandad and my dad. _ nesta mcgregor with that report. ido find i do find it quite difficult to think of ian wright as a grandad. just grandad. it seems weird. it does seem weird. and shaun wright—phillips saying he is old and he is 39! wright-phillips saying he is old and he is 39! ., ., wright-phillips saying he is old and heis39! ., ., he is 39! compare and contrast generations. — he is 39! compare and contrast generations, really _ he is 39! compare and contrastj generations, really interesting. you're watching breakfast. still to come on today's programme. where's walrus? that's the question being asked by the british antarctic survey and the wwf. they want your help in scouring satellite images to see how many walruses you can spot. time now to get the news, travel and weather where you are. good morning. i'm sonja jessup. bbc news has learned that an investigation has been launched into organised abuse at a special school in walthamstow. the local authority and police were called in to whitefield school after cctv footage was found of pupils being physically assaulted and neglected. the school says it has new leadership and practices in place. thames water's performance has been 'unacceptable'— those are the words of the company's chief executive. sarah bentley's been questioned by a committee of mps alongside other water companies about their impact on river quality. she said customers find it difficult to contact them and infrastructure needs improving. but added they are investing billions of pounds. we've put in a really root and branch turnaround plan and change the executive team. i've got the support of the new shareholders who have not taken a dip in and in four years and we are absolutely convicted, but the proof will be in the pudding. people living in an east london tower block say they're suffering with leaks, vermin... and the buildings in disrepair. it's called charles dickens house, and some residents have likened their conditions to living in that era. from work, you need to come back to a very comfortable home, and at the moment i don't have a comfortable home. ijust come home and sometimes ifeel home. ijust come home and sometimes i feel stressed home. ijust come home and sometimes ifeel stressed as home. ijust come home and sometimes i feel stressed as well because i'm not having good sleep and it's really affecting my help ? l. the social landlord, thch, says it's sorry, and is working hard to resolve issues. now you might remember last month we met two of the new gentoo penguins at the london aquarium — named raducanu and gilbert. that's gilbert — after professor dame sarah gilbert— who co—developed the oxford astrazeneca covid vaccine. yesterday, they came face to face and she said she never imagined she'd have a penguin named after her. let's take a look at the travel now. the district line was having some problems but those have just cleared— the metropolitan line has minor delays between moor park to amersham and baker street and uxbridge. and for all the latest travel news where you are tune into your bbc local radio station— regular updates throughout the morning. time for the weather. here's sara thornton. good morning to you. not quite as chilly a start across london and the south—east as yesterday morning where we saw temperatures in low to mid single figures. we are in high single figures and low double figures this morning and we have some may stand murkiness around to start us off and it's cloudy through the day but generally dry and we will see breaks in the cloud at times and you can see it thinning and breaking here and there is the day wears on. in the best of it, not a bad day at all. 16 or 17 c, 63 f. let's watch what happens through the night tonight and we have a few a week where the front skirting around us on one of them comes in overnight tonight and a freshening of the wind with a bit of cloud and may be the odd spot of rain into tomorrow morning the temperature is holding up morning the temperature is holding up into low double figures. the day itself tomorrow, yes, some cloud and a bit of patchy drizzle across but there will be sunshine at times and temperatures a little bit cooler than they have been in the coming days are dry and settled through the weekend. rain next week. i'm back in half an hour. plenty more on our website at the usual address, and now i'll hand you back to charlie and naga. bye for now. hello this is breakfast with charlie stayt and naga coming up on the programme this morning. evanna lynch played luna lovegood in the harry potter films — she says the books and their author jk rowling helped her to beat an eating disorder. she'll bejoining us for a chat before eight. we'll be catching up with andy, mike and tim — the dads who are walking 300 miles in memory of the daughters they lost to suicide. they're about a third of the way through that epicjourney. and chloe mccardel has just swum the english channel for a record 44th time. she'll be on the sofa before nine to tell us what makes her keep going back for more. we've been hearing a lot about the latest blue origin space mission over the last few days, but the duke of cambridge has told the bbc that space entrepreneurs should be focussing more on repairing this planet, not trying to find the next one to live on. prince william was speaking to our chief political correspondent adam fleming in an exclusive tv interview for newscast, in the run up to this weekend's earthshot prize award ceremony. prince, presenter, prize giver. the duke of cambridge created the award earthshot and his tv programme to encounter negative news about the planet. which is why fixing our climate is one of the five goals of the earthshot prize. you are losing people every time we have these headlines. we get there is a big urgent message and i'm not saying we shouldn't talk the urgency or the big issues, but ultimately, if were going to tackle this, we want to get on the front foot and we've got to bring people with us and we've got to have people feel like there is hope and a chance we can fix this and that is what earthshot is about, providing the solutions to some of the world's biggest environmental problems. what do you say to your children about this? i think they are living and growing up in a world where it's much more talked about than when we were growing up, so that has benefits and negatives as well, because we are seeing a rise in climate anxiety. young people now are growing up where their futures are basically threatened the whole time. it's very unnerving, and very anxiety making. i suppose going in the other direction, your dad has been worried about this stuff for a very long time, and actually people sort of used to take the mickey out of him for it. it's been a hard road for him. my grandfather starting up helping out the wwf a long time ago with its nature work and biodiversity and i think my father has progressed that argument and talked about climate change a lot more, very early on before anyone else thought it was a topic, so yes, he's had a really rough ride on that and i think he's been proven to be well ahead of the curve, well beyond his time in warning about some of these dangers. but it shouldn't be that there is a third generation coming along having to ramp it even more. for me, it would be an absolute disaster if george is sat here talking to you or your successor, adam, in 30 years' time or whatever, still saying the same thing, because by then it will be too late. if we're not careful, we are robbing from our children's future in what we do now, and i think that's not fair, so i'm trying to use my little bit of influence and little bit of profile to highlight some incredible people doing amazing things, and will genuinely help fix some of these problems. it's one small step for man, one giant leap for mankind. the clue is in the name. the earthshot is inspired by the space race of the '60s. but the future king has this message for the entrepreneurs heading for the heavens. we need some of the world's greatest brains and minds to fix on repairing this planet and not trying to find the next place to go and live. i wasjust coming back home from school and i noticed in my street using charcoal. the 15 finalist for the prize includes a solar powered gadgets, apps, organisations and initiatives. prince william plans to take some of his winners to the big climate change conference in glasgow next month to provide inspiration, and maybe a bit of pressure too. we can't have more clever speak and clever words but not enough action. and that is why the earthshot prize is so important as we are trying to create action. the prize itself will stimulate solutions and action that a lot of people have not necessarily produced yet, so i'm hoping that the prize will galvanise a lot of people in positions of responsibility to, you know, go further, bigger and actually start to deliver. "bbc newscast: the prince william interview" is on bbc one tonight at 11.35pm. and we'll be catching—up with adam for a chat about that interview at around 830. our thoughts this morning with one of wales's brightest young footballers, david brooks who has been diagnosed with stage two hodgkin's lymphoma and the prognosis is good but it's a shock for any young athlete, professional football to be diagnosed with cancer. use 2a, and a bright future of gorse and the comforting thing is that plenty of other footballers have gone through this and come through the other side and there is a lot of support which we will hear about from the football community for the wales international, david brooks and getting a lot of love on twitter after he announced that he has cancer, stage ii hodgkin's lymphoma and sol bamba of middlesbrough who overcame camps that tweeted, you have got this, champ. since 2018 he's been part of the wales squad, and his most recent game is in the championship at the end of september and he withdrew recently from the wales squad through illness. he revealed his diagnosis on twitter and said although it has come to a shock and myself in the family the prognosis is a positive one on the pitch, it was a great night for chelsea, who beatjuventus 2—1 in turin, in the women's champions league.. danish international pernille harder, scored the winner. chelsea have 4 points from their first two group games, and are second in their group to wolfsburg on goal difference.. the swedish fa say manchester united forward anthony elanga was subjected to a racist comment, by an opponent while playing for his country's under 21 side, against italy on tuesday. sweden have submitted a report to the match referee, following allegations made by the 19 year old. the italian football federation, said it denies the claims. the european under—21 championship qualifier, had finished 1—1. one of the premier league's great characters, claudio ranieri, is back, and the man who masterminded leicester's premier league title, says he's now confident, his new club, watford, can avoid relegation from the premier league. they're on seven points after seven games. enough to get the previous manager, the sack. ranieri turns 70 next wee but that's no issue. i phi feel emotion, iwant i phi feel emotion, i want to contain it. i phi feel emotion, i want to contain it— i phi feel emotion, i want to contain it. i phi feel emotion, i want to containit. ., , , contain it. football for me is my life. contain it. football for me is my life- when _ contain it. football for me is my life- when i _ contain it. football for me is my life. when i was _ contain it. football for me is my life. when i was young, - contain it. football for me is my life. when i was young, i - contain it. football for me is my life. when i was young, i used l contain it. football for me is my| life. when i was young, i used to think— life. when i was young, i used to think about — life. when i was young, i used to think about playing football and afterwards may be made a manager, and now. _ afterwards may be made a manager, and now. i_ afterwards may be made a manager, and now, i have enough energy to .ive and now, i have enough energy to give to— and now, i have enough energy to give to my— and now, i have enough energy to give to my players and i want to continue — cameron norrie is into the quarter—finals at indian wells in california after a three set win over tommy paul. the british number two beat the american 6-4,1l-6, 6-2. he'll face argentina's diego schwartzman next for a place in the last four this evening. ronnie o' sullivan claimed he was bored in his last match at the northern ireland open. hopefully the rocket�*s victory ,over alfie burden will have provided some stimulation. he's only dropped 2 frames this week, and will face china's yan bing—tao next. the australian endurance swimmer, chlo mccardel has broken the record for swimming the english channel. she swam it yesterday for the 44th time. chloe's been suffering from a chest infection, but around ten hours after she set off from kent, and, 12 years after her first trip across the channel, she arrived on the french coast to complete this historic crossing. she said afterwards it had been 'a really tough journey�* but she hoped to inspire 'the next generation of open water swimmers'. she joins us live on breakfast at 850. she left the men's record way behind last year in 2020, now she has done 44, beating the previous women's record, who was her idol, alison streeter, whose record was a3. bend streeter, whose record was 43. and we will see — streeter, whose record was 43. and we will see you _ streeter, whose record was 43. and we will see you later. thanks, mike. the norwegian prime minister has described a bow and arrow attack in the small town of kongsberg — which left five people dead and two more injured as "horrifying". police have arrested a 37—year—old danish man. fredrik drevon is journalist based in oslo — we can speak to him now. first of all, if you could take us through the sequence of events and as i understand it was about quarter past six on wednesday evening. tell us what happened. yes. past six on wednesday evening. tell us what happened.— us what happened. yes, so at 613, the olice us what happened. yes, so at 613, the police received _ us what happened. yes, so at 613, the police received messages - us what happened. yes, so at 613, | the police received messages from the police received messages from the public that a man was at large, shooting with a bow and arrow in the old town of kongsberg and half an hour later, police were able to apprehend this person and the police have confirmed that a man is in custody and that he has been cooperating with his defence lawyer but no more details have been released except that he is a danish citizen and that he is a resident of kongsberg. 50. citizen and that he is a resident of kongsberg-— citizen and that he is a resident of konaasber. ., ,, ., , .,, kongsberg. so, it appears there was a eriod of kongsberg. so, it appears there was a period of time, _ kongsberg. so, it appears there was a period of time, some _ kongsberg. so, it appears there was a period of time, some half- kongsberg. so, it appears there was a period of time, some half an - kongsberg. so, it appears there was a period of time, some half an hour| a period of time, some half an hour or so, when this person was roaming and using this bow and arrow. that is what the — and using this bow and arrow. that is what the police _ and using this bow and arrow. trisgt is what the police have said. an apparently he started in a supermarket and was roaming around in this small street, in the old town and there had been witnesses quoted in various news media about this situation and about having seen a person coming out of the supermarket with an arrow in his back and there has been a photo of an arrow stuck in a wooden wall, in an arrow stuck in a wooden wall, in a building and it's a horrible moment for the town and the nation as well. and nobody could imagine this kind of terrible thing happening in that place. i was there in the town a few days ago, having coffee in a street caf and it's a very peaceful town and beautifully located and we will see now as the police are yet to determine if it is a terror attack or not. i’m police are yet to determine if it is a terror attack or not. i'm assuming from the way _ a terror attack or not. i'm assuming from the way you — a terror attack or not. i'm assuming from the way you described - a terror attack or not. i'm assuming from the way you described it, - a terror attack or not. i'm assuming from the way you described it, and | from the way you described it, and you argosy know the place well, at that time on wednesday evening, 13 minutes past six, what would it have been like? would there have been many people there? hat been like? would there have been many people there?— been like? would there have been many people there? not that many --eole. many people there? not that many people- the _ many people there? not that many people- the old — many people there? not that many people. the old town _ many people there? not that many people. the old town is _ many people there? not that many people. the old town is the - many people there? not that many people. the old town is the least . people. the old town is the least busy part of kongsberg. it is more low—key and more residential, and on another side of the river, you have lots of shopping malls and more activity, but in the old town you have a wine outlet which would close at around six and that would be a normal day with people going about their business, very little traffic and any kind of small town setting, and any kind of small town setting, and i imagine the shock of the local residents, it's a bit disappointing that the police were so slow to give out information about what happened. for example, in kongsberg you have three co—op supermarkets but it took the police many hours to inform the public exactly which shop was attacked. �* ., public exactly which shop was attacked. . . ., , , , ., attacked. and what happens now in terms of the _ attacked. and what happens now in terms of the police _ attacked. and what happens now in terms of the police and _ attacked. and what happens now in terms of the police and legal - terms of the police and legal process? terms of the police and legal rocess? ,., . terms of the police and legal rocess? . ., ., process? the police are now investigating _ process? the police are now investigating when - process? the police are now investigating when the - process? the police are now. investigating when the indicted person will be held and formally questioned by the police and according to the lawyer, he was cooperating and giving information. the lawyer says that the events are weighing on the person and police have not revealed details about the victim but we just know there are five people dead and two injured and police say next of kin have been notified, but apart from that we don't know anything more for sure. thank you so much for your time. just talking about that attack which, as frederik was saying, five people killed and two others injured in a norwegian town called kongsberg. time now to see how the weather's looking. here's carol. there are brighter days coming, i understand. they are indeed, especially when it will be cooler tomorrow when it will be more sunshine across the board. while there is a lot of cloud around again we also have fog across the south—west of england, something to bearin south—west of england, something to bear in mind if you are travelling on some of that is dense and it will turn windier through the course of the day through the far north of scotland because we have this weather front, scotland because we have this weatherfront, a cold front producing heavy rain and it will sink slowly south, but high pressure is still clinging on in the south with a lot of cloud around, and that's helping maintain the temperature level and if you're stepping out, this is the level you can expect, but cool the south—west and braemar in the highlands. this morning the fog will slowly lift and some of it into low cloud. the emphasis is on a lot of cloud today with a few sunny breaks but they will be at a premium in the rain is slipping south with heavy bursts of rain in that and gusty winds and gales across the far north of mainland scotland and also the northern ireland. behind the system, fresher air comes in and some of the showers following could see wintry nets on higher ground. the temperature ranges between 12 and 17 . through the temperature ranges between 12 and 17. through the evening and overnight the same weather front slips slowly south as a weakening feature, taking its cloud and rain with it and behind it some colder conditions follow and there will be frost tonight across parts of scotland, the far north of northern england and also northern ireland but still in the milder air, as we come further south, with the wind is easing upwards and north of scotland. that takes us into friday. brighter, chilliersums scotland. that takes us into friday. brighter, chillier sums it up nicely and you can see the progress the front makes and we hang on to the mild air represented by the yellow in the blue pushes all the weight down towards the midlands. here is the weak weather front in the south tomorrow producing some cloud and we might get the odd spot of rain but it will remain fairly cloudy with south wales and southern england and into the channel islands. the sun will come out behind it so after a cold start, temperatures will rise in the sunshine but still a huge difference in temperatures between the north and south but feeling chillier across the board except in the far south. in the weekend a chilly start to saturday but milder on sunday. saturday starts off with a touch of frost across parts of scotland and northern england and possibly into east anglia as well and after a fairly decent start, the cloud builds in from the west and it starts to turn a bit wetter from the west as well. the timing on this may yet change. yesterday we thought it was coming in faster but today it slowed down. temperatures are starting to creep ? creep up everywhere except in the far north of scotland and that will happen during the course of sunday. sunday again, a lot of dry weather and sunshine but some rain coming in across the north west and these are the temperatures, between ten and 18 . next week the temperatures, between ten and 18. next week though, the temperatures, between ten and 18 . next week though, it's looking more unsettled.— 18 . next week though, it's looking more unsettled. should we be happy with about 18 — more unsettled. should we be happy with about 18 today? _ more unsettled. should we be happy with about 18 today? that _ more unsettled. should we be happy with about 18 today? that is - more unsettled. should we be happy with about 18 today? that is above l with about 18 today? that is above averaue with about 18 today? that is above average for — with about 18 today? that is above average for this _ with about 18 today? that is above average for this time _ with about 18 today? that is above average for this time of _ with about 18 today? that is above average for this time of year. - with about 18 today? that is above average for this time of year. so, l average for this time of year. so, if you like it that way, then yes. you have to be so diplomatic. i do you have to be so diplomatic. i do because i you have to be so diplomatic. i do because i will— you have to be so diplomatic. i do because i will get _ you have to be so diplomatic. i do because i will get a _ you have to be so diplomatic. i if because i will get a barrage of complaints. i’m because i will get a barrage of complaints-— because i will get a barrage of comlaints. �* ., ., �*, complaints. i'm going to say it's aood. complaints. i'm going to say it's good- just _ complaints. i'm going to say it's good- just this _ complaints. i'm going to say it's good. just this week _ complaints. i'm going to say it's good. just this week because i complaints. i'm going to say it's| good. just this week because it's unsettled next week. there you go. thank you so much. we are going to find out the winner of the stirling prize today. and as our media and arts correspondent david sillito reports this year's shortlist reflects how the environment has become a prime concern. kingston university's townhouse. a home for its library, dance studios and also a new social hub for students. wow, like, this is incredible. coming here and as i walked past with people i brought from home, and i say, yet i go to uni there, and they say, that's where you study, and i say, yeah, that's so cool. it's also a place that solar panels are naturally cooling to create a building is less energy hungry. this key worker housing in cambridge is also encouraged to designed to encourage a low carbon lifestyle. you see more bike sheds here than car parking. this year's six stirling buildings are about more than just beauty and clever ideas. care for the environment has become a prime concern. take this. windermere, and a museum to house a famous boat collection. the overriding concern, though, is don't spoil the view. sustainability has been really central to the concept of the building and we have systems such as the lake—source heat pump that heats the whole museum, underpinning the energy strategy and we have selected, wherever possible, local material so that the travel from source to site is as short as possible. or this bridge in tintagel in north cornwall, a place connected with the story of king arthur. the challenge here, to reconnect the eroded site and not damage the archaeology. and when it comes to ancient history, this building in london uses some ancient methods. lumps of stone are what;s keeping these flats and office upright. a sort of high—tech stonehenge. sedimentary rock and, depending on how old it is, you will still find fossils within it, and here you can see. this has come straight out of the ground, hasn't it quite hasn't it quite right. yes, precisely, this is an ammonite shell and we found you can still do it, it's cheaper, faster and greener to simply put stone buildings up and we found here that we saved 92% of the embodied carbon, had this been a steel frame building and then clad in stone. but this hasn't been simple. it's rough hewn exterior is not everybody�*s taste. at one point the council was seeking to have it demolished. it was only saved after a two—year legal battle by its architect. was there a moment when you thought you wish you had never started this? of course. sorry, you want me to elaborate, obviously. even after you won, you are obviously relieved, but that two and a half years of stress, structures you in a way, it's difficult. and our final building swaps steel and concrete forward. inspired by a garden of paradise, cambridge mosque is a low carbon spirituality. so, six very different buildings but all reflecting a desire on the eve of a global climate summit to tread gently on the planet. david sillito, bbc news. and david will be live at the awards ceremony with a special programme on the bbc news channel, tonight at 7.30pm. as captainjames t kirk, the actor william shatner spent years pretending to be in space. yesterday, he did it for real. the 90—year old star trek actor spentjust over 10 minutes on a rocket flight, funded by the amazon founderjeff bezos. our reporter sophie long was watching. as the sun rose over one of the most desolate parts of the wild west, william shatner made his way to the fully automated spacecraft the kongsberg. fully automated spacecraft the kongsberg-— fully automated spacecraft the i kongsberg-_ not kongsberg. william shatner. not needinu kongsberg. william shatner. not needing the _ kongsberg. william shatner. not needing the crew— kongsberg. william shatner. not needing the crew his _ kongsberg. william shatner. not needing the crew his alter- kongsberg. william shatner. not needing the crew his alter ego i needing the crew his alter ego demanded but three other passengers who would share this life—changing experience. ? new shephard. more than 50 years after he donned a space as captain kirk, william shatner is on his way to the final frontier. ? a spacesuit. and shatner is on his way to the final frontier. ? a spacesuit. and there the are, frontier. ? a spacesuit. and there they are. over— frontier. ? a spacesuit. and there they are, over 328,000 - frontier. ? a spacesuit. and there they are, over 328,000 feet, - frontier. ? a spacesuit. and there| they are, over 328,000 feet, over hundred kilometres ? minutes later as the new shephard cross the internationally recognised base boundary, he became the oldest person in the world to float the, weightless, and the actor who for decades played an iconic space explorer became one. band decades played an iconic space explorer became one.- decades played an iconic space explorer became one. and of the ca sule explorer became one. and of the capsule has _ explorer became one. and of the capsule has touched _ explorer became one. and of the capsule has touched down. - explorer became one. and of the - capsule has touched down. welcome back, _ capsule has touched down. welcome back, the _ capsule has touched down. welcome back, the newest astronauts. he back, the newest astronauts. emerged back, the newest astronauts. he: emerged from the capsule visibly moved by the adventure he said he hopes he never recovers from. you have given — hopes he never recovers from. you have given me _ hopes he never recovers from. you have given me the _ hopes he never recovers from. you have given me the most profound experience — have 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it is extraordinary.- happened. ijust ? it is extraordinary. happened. ijust ? it is extraordina . , , extraordinary. they might be debate about whether _ extraordinary. they might be debate about whether he _ extraordinary. they might be debate about whether he can _ extraordinary. they might be debate about whether he can be _ extraordinary. they might be debate about whether he can be called i extraordinary. they might be debate about whether he can be called an i about whether he can be called an astronaut but he has gone where no nonagenarian has gone before. there is so much remarkable about it. and you heard the emotion there when he came off, well, sophie managed to grab a word with william shatnerjust after he'd finished his flight. you look around the mountains, the beauty of these mountains, some with the haze and the beauty of texas and the beauty of what we are seeing. that is earth. that is what we are seeing, the beauty of earth in detail and we see also the blackness and the ominousness of space. life, life and death. you went through the training, all of you, and we saneff bezos come out early of the capsule this afternoon and he must have given you some wisdom and his direct experience. was there anything you were shocked by? he is a shocking man, isn't he? no, he was just warm and wonderful and loving. as he is. he is a wonderful, interesting, loving human being. he wanted to come with us, for sure. he saved it and he put it back on and he did not want to step out. but to answer your question, it was nothing we trained for that prepared us for how different it was. when the rocket motor turned off, that wasn't in our training because you cannot do it on the ground and suddenly we were free and _ you could feel it, and it was amazing, the most remarkable feeling. you broke a world record today, mr shatner, and you went into space at the age of 90 and no one has done before. i wish i had broken the world record in the hundred yard dash, but unfortunately that is how old i am. no, i am not going to cheer myself out as the oldest man in space. would you do it again? go to space? i am so filled with such an emotion, and such a feeling of a novel experience that i don't want to dissipate by thinking of another journey. it's like, no, don't dilute the experience. right now, i am holding on to what i experienced and saw. thank you very much. thank you so much, congratulations. that was william shatner speaking to sophie long immediately after and one of the things i found interesting, the way he talked about his trip to space. it was nonscientific, and he said he looked up nonscientific, and he said he looked up at the darkness and it felt like death and i looked down at the earth and the blue line and it felt like life. it was a very different way of seeing things, because he is not a scientist. also, he is 90 years old. he has a lot of experience and it's quite easy to imagine he would know all about space, but he was acting. it's a different perspective. i was also tickled, and i hope we see it in a second, everything went amazingly according to plan, spot on, timings, everything work precisely and they get back to earth and jeff bezos, who clearly, it's a great marketing opportunity for him, a bit like a blue peter badge where astronauts get a special badge and there are many of them and he tries to putjohn william shatner�*s eat. perfect. to put john william shatner's eat. perfect. ~ :, to put john william shatner's eat. perfect-- oops- _ to put john william shatner's eat. perfect.- oops. this - to put john william shatner's eat. perfect.- oops. this is i to put john william shatner's eat. perfect.- oops. this is the | perfect. what? oops. this is the hardest part _ perfect. what? oops. this is the hardest part of— perfect. what? oops. this is the hardest part of the _ perfect. what? oops. this is the hardest part of the mission. i perfect. what? oops. this is the hardest part of the mission. the | hardest part of the mission. the hardest part of the mission. the hardest part _ hardest part of the mission. the hardest part of— hardest part of the mission. tie hardest part of the mission. tie hardest part of the mission. tie hardest part of the mission. we didn't see the bit before that where jeff bezos had tried, he tried with the first badge and the branch would not go through the suit so he had to abandon the pinning and abort the mission and then get another badge and go with that one, as that was the second badge we saw. so hundreds of millions or whatever spent, and the badge wasn't good enough to go through the material. also i was thinking, it's not a great idea to have a hole in a spacesuit. he was putting a pin through it. i'm not an expert ? i putting a pin through it. i'm not an expert? i don't think you will be using it again. recycling is a good thing, isn't it? i wouldn't give up my spacesuit. you would keep that, when you question you wouldn't say, someone else could use it. i don't know. maybe we will find out. don't you have a lucky piece of clothing? time now to get the news, travel and weather where you are. good morning, i'm sonja jessup. bbc news has learned that an investigation has been launched into organised abuse at a special school in walthamstow. the local authority and police were called in to whitefield school after cctv footage was found of pupils being physically assaulted and neglected. the school says it has new leadership and practices in place. detectives say they're following a number of leads to try to discover the motive behind the murder of a student in twickenham on tuesday. 18—year—old hazrat wali was attacked on a playing field. he's the 25th teenager to be killed in london this year. thames water's performance has been unacceptable — those are the words of the company's chief executive. sarah bentley's been questioned by a committee of mps about their impact on river quality. she said customers find it difficult to contact them and infrastructure needs improving. but she added they are investing billions of pounds. we've put in a really root and branch turnaround plan and changed the executive team. i've got the support of the new shareholders, who have not taken a dividend in four years, and we are absolutely convicted, but the proof will be in the pudding. people living in an east london tower block say they're suffering with leaks and vermin, and the buildings in disrepair. it's called charles dickens house, and some residents have likened their conditions to living in the victorian era. from work, you need to come back to a very comfortable home, and at the moment i don't have a comfortable home. ijust come home and sometimes i feel stressed as well, because i'm not having good sleep and it's really affecting my health. the social landlord, thch, says it's sorry and is working hard to resolve issues. now, you might remember last month we met two of the new gentoo penguins at the london aquarium, named raducanu and gilbert. that's gilbert, after professor dame sarah gilbert, who co—developed the oxford astrazeneca covid vaccine. let's take a look at the travel now. the metropolitan line has minor delays between moor park to amersham and baker street and uxbridge. other lines appear to be running as normal. time for the weather with sara thornton. good morning to you. not quite as chilly a start across london and the south—east as yesterday morning, where we saw temperatures in low to mid—single figures. we are in high single figures and low double figures this morning, and we have some mist and murkiness around to start us off. it's cloudy through the day, but generally dry, and we will see breaks in the cloud at times. you can see it thinning and breaking here and there as the day wears on. in the best of it, not a bad day at all. 16 or 17 degrees celsius. let's watch what happens through the night tonight. and we have a few weak fronts skirting around us. one of them comes in overnight tonight, on a freshening wind with a bit of cloud and maybe the odd spot of rain. into tomorrow morning, the temperatures holding up into low double figures. the day itself tomorrow, yes, some cloud and a bit of patchy drizzle across, but there will be sunshine at times and temperatures a little bit cooler than they have been in the coming days. i'm back in half an hour. plenty more on our website at the usual address. bye for now. good morning, welcome to breakfast with naga munchetty and charlie stayt. our headlines today. more money for gps to see patients face to face, but they'll be named and shamed if they don't offer enough appointments. five people are killed and two more are injured in norway, by a man using a bow and arrow. another two energy firms go bust — pure planet and colorado energy go out of business blaming rising costs and the price cap. a quarter of a million customers are affected. i'll have the details. the wales international midfielder david brooks reveals he's been diagnosed with cancer. he's only 24 and plays for bournmouth, and has stage 2 hodgkin lymphoma, and will begin a course of treatment next week. good morning. summerare summer are foggy to watch out for it this morning across south—west england. for most of us it will be a cloudy day with limited sunshine. heavy rain spreading south across scotland into northern ireland and northern england and later, followed by strong winds. details coming up. good morning. it's thursday, the 14th of october. our main story. gp practices in england are being offered an extra £250 million this winter to help them see more patients in person. but the doctors' union has criticised a plan to publish league tables on face—to—face appointments, saying it'll push more gps out of the profession. here's more from our health reporter, jim reed. so i got your message just now about the pain in your knee, yeah? the pandemic has changed the way many of us access a gp. for some, telephone and online consultations have replaced face—to—face appointments. under these plans the government says £250 million will be made available to boost access to family doctors in england. it's meant to pay for more temporary or locum gps, as well as support staff like physiotherapists. there is a promise to cut some red tape and more cash for security at a time when doctors say they are dealing with high levels of abuse. social distancing rules for gps are also being reviewed, which could allow more patients in waiting rooms. in a statement the health secretary said, "i am determined to ensure patients can see their gp in the way they want, no matter where they live." the new cash for gps though is part of a £5 billion covid fund already announced by ministers to get the nhs through this winter. the doctors' union says the package does not go nearly far enough. after weeks of promising an emergency package to rescue general practice, we are hugely disappointed that whilst additional funding has been promised, and there is talk about addressing abuse and talking up the benefits of general practice, the package as a whole offers so little and shows a government completely out of touch with what the scale of the crisis really is on the ground for general practice. the extra support for gps in england comes as waiting times in hospital a&e units have also been rising across the uk. the group, which represents nhs trusts, is warning today of the most challenging winter yet for the health service. jim reed, bbc news. let's speak to our political correspondent, chris mason. morning, chris. the health secretary saying this is all about patience, get them face—to—face with their gps. when you look at the reaction from gps themselves, they feel they are being blamed for a problem they have not caused? , :, :, blamed for a problem they have not caused? , :, caused? yes, good morning. the lanauuae caused? yes, good morning. the language on _ caused? yes, good morning. the language on both _ caused? yes, good morning. the language on both sides _ caused? yes, good morning. the language on both sides is - caused? yes, good morning. the language on both sides is prettyl language on both sides is pretty stark~ _ language on both sides is pretty stark. what we have got from the government is a job in the ribs, more _ government is a job in the ribs, more than _ government is a job in the ribs, more than a _ government is a job in the ribs, more than a knowledge, to say you have got— more than a knowledge, to say you have got to — more than a knowledge, to say you have got to do better to get more patients— have got to do better to get more patients and england back in front of you _ patients and england back in front of you face—to—face. 58% of appointments at the moment are face—to—face. it was 80% before the pandemic _ face—to—face. it was 80% before the pandemic. the government wants to see that _ pandemic. the government wants to see that change. there has been a long—running campaign in the daily mail _ long—running campaign in the daily mail sajid — long—running campaign in the daily mail. sajidjavid, i know long—running campaign in the daily mail. sajid javid, i know you will be speaking to me 20 minutes, has written _ be speaking to me 20 minutes, has written in _ be speaking to me 20 minutes, has written in the daily mail this morning, praising their campaign. written in the daily mail this morning, praising theircampaign. he says he _ morning, praising theircampaign. he says he wants to ensure that patients _ says he wants to ensure that patients can see their gp in a way they choose. in other words, maintaining the digital option of using _ maintaining the digital option of using your phone or laptop, but making — using your phone or laptop, but making it — using your phone or laptop, but making it easier for you to see a doctor— making it easier for you to see a doctor face—to—face if that was what you would _ doctor face—to—face if that was what you would like to see happen. he wants— you would like to see happen. he wants to — you would like to see happen. he wants to see a far closer correlation between how things were before _ correlation between how things were before the _ correlation between how things were before the pandemic with how things are now _ before the pandemic with how things are now. he will hope this package works— are now. he will hope this package works to _ are now. he will hope this package works to do — are now. he will hope this package works to do that. but with plenty of gps saying — works to do that. but with plenty of gps saying this is one of many problems— gps saying this is one of many problems we face. and we'll speak to the health secretary sajid javid at half past seven. between now and then, if you have had experience of your gp, whether good, bad, whether you like the appointments, whether you are happy with that, or whether you think he is speaking on your behalf, get more people in front of their gps, do let us know about your experiences. we will be speaking to him at half past seven. , , , the norwegian prime minister, erna solberg, says the country's been shaken by the murder of five people in a small town by a man armed with a bow and arrow. a 37—year—old danish citizen is in custody and police believe he acted alone. russell trott reports. the attacks took place just after six in the evening around the town of kongsberg. a man, apparently armed with a bow and arrow, walked around the town centre and began at random to shoot at a sharpers. his motive is not clear, say police, but they believe he acted alone. translation: i they believe he acted alone. translation:— they believe he acted alone. translation: :, :, translation: i want to underline that if it is terror _ translation: i want to underline that if it is terror -related, - translation: i want to underline that if it is terror -related, we i that if it is terror —related, we don't know if it was a political attack that has taken place, the police will have to investigate that. we know that in many countries over a long time attacks have been prevented by good police work, but is that the issue of loan perpetrators is difficult. some of the casualties _ perpetrators is difficult. some of the casualties were _ perpetrators is difficult. some of the casualties were in _ perpetrators is difficult. some of the casualties were in a - the casualties were in a supermarket, including an off duty police officer, who is now in hospital. his colleagues were on the scene in minutes. is hospital. his colleagues were on the scene in minutes.— scene in minutes. is this person was on the rampage _ scene in minutes. is this person was on the rampage for— scene in minutes. is this person was on the rampage for between - scene in minutes. is this person was on the rampage for between half- scene in minutes. is this person was on the rampage for between half an | on the rampage for between half an hour and _ on the rampage for between half an hour and an — on the rampage for between half an hourand an hour, on the rampage for between half an hour and an hour, which is how long this was— hour and an hour, which is how long this was going on, one witness said he saw— this was going on, one witness said he saw police firing a warning shot. the police — he saw police firing a warning shot. the police have confirmed there was a warning _ the police have confirmed there was a warning shot fired during the apprehension. a warning shot fired during the apprehension-— a warning shot fired during the apprehension. images posted on social media _ apprehension. images posted on social media show _ apprehension. images posted on social media show and _ apprehension. images posted on social media show and arrow i apprehension. images posted on i social media show and arrow stock in the wooden walls of houses. the prime minister said of the community had been hit hard. norway still remembers the events of 2011 when anders breivik killed 77 people. a man is in custody as police try to piece together exactly what happened here. russell trott, bbc news. the chancellor rishi sunak has said british shoppers should be confident there will be enough presents on the shelves for christmas — despite a log—jam at the uk's biggest commercial port, felixstowe. mr sunak said the government is doing all it can to keep supplies moving. he's attending a meeting of the leaders of the world's advanced economies in washington, where he spoke to our economics editor, faisal islam. for a second year the government is having to talk about saving christmas. this year it's the difficulties in global trade that are leading to tens of containers full of imports stuck off the coast of britain, with too few drivers available to drive them on the last leg of theirjourney. it's not unique to britain, but the chancellor, in washington, says the whole world can face up to the problems of an economy on the rebound from the pandemic lockdowns. well, i tell people to be reassured that we are doing absolutely everything we can to mitigate some of these challenges. they are global in nature, so we can't fix every single problem, but i feel confident there will be good provision of goods for everybody. i'm confident there will be a good amount of christmas presents available for everyone to buy. but it's notjust the container crisis. with energies prices surging too, more providers going bust and heavy industry begging for support, the chancellor was more guarded. if high gas prices put some heavy industry out of business, is that just the market working? do we have to accept that? are you going to accept that as chancellor? well, i think as people have seen over the past year we are prepared to work with business and support them as required. it wouldn't be appropriate for me to comment on the particular situation of any individual company. but in general i believe in a market economy. it's served us very well in this country. it's not the government's job to come in and start managing the price of every single individual product. many of his problems are being faced by all the finance ministers in the major world economies, with the germans fearful of what they call a bottleneck recession. from shipping lanes to restaurants to car factories, there are astonishing things happening in the world economy right now. and not even here, with the world's most important finance ministers, are they truly sure how this is going to settle down. they hope that it will prove temporary and that inflation, the rising prices and the shortages, will stop. but they can't be sure. consumers will be protected, but the government can't stretch that promise to businesses. faisal islam, bbc news in washington, dc. another two energy companies have gone bust, blaming the cost of wholesale gas and the consumer price cap. we have already seen a number of companies fault. we knew there would be more. yes, here we are again talking about more firms that have failed because of the soaring cost of wholesale gas. up 250% since this crisis began. the latest victims are pure planet. they have 235,000 customers. and colorado energy, who had 15,000. one of the biggest and smallest so far in this crisis. 11 firms have now gone bust since september. it means that 2 million people are affected because of that wholesale price going up. in old times firms would have been able to pass that cost on to customers and say, we are paying more for gas, therefore you have to pay more for gas. and because of the price cap that has been introduced by the regulator of gem, —— 0fgem, they been introduced by the regulator of gem, -— 0fgem, they can't been introduced by the regulator of gem, —— 0fgem, they can't pass on the increase to their customers and they simply cannot afford to carry on. they are paying this but only able to charge theirs. what will happen if you are affected? well, you will automatically find your account has moved to a new supplier. that is done by the regulator. you don't have to do anything. they will get in touch with you. of the problem is you will probably end up on a more expensive tariff. you might have got a fixed rate deal with your old provider. the new deal will be much more expensive and so, for the winter, as we start turning on the heating when things get a little bit colder, you will find your bills go up even though they are within the price cap, and they could be more expensive. thank you. 11 minutes past seven. robert webb has said he deeply regrets having to withdraw from strictly come dancing due to ill health. the actor, who had open heart surgery two years ago, said he thought he was fit enough to take part, after learning and rehearsing three dances, it became clear he'd "bitten off more than he could chew". his professional dance partner dianne buswell said she feels lucky to call him a friend, and wished him a speedy recovery. 11 minutes past seven. carol is looking at the weather this morning. now that is an interesting picture you have got behind you. good morning.— you have got behind you. good morning. you have got behind you. good morninu. :, , ., good morning. good morning. it is a lovely picture _ good morning. good morning. it is a lovely picture from _ good morning. good morning. it is a lovely picture from one _ good morning. good morning. it is a lovely picture from one of— good morning. good morning. it is a lovely picture from one of our- lovely picture from one of our weather watchers sent in from edinburgh. there is a fair bit of cloud, as there is across many parts of the british isles first thing. in fact, through the day sunshine amounts will be limited. these loud thick enough for the odd spot. ? for the cloud. heavy rain in the north of scotland sinking south. strong winds coming in across the northern isles and the far north of scotland. there will be some showers. some of those may prove to be wintry. the temperature range, 13 a week to 17 in cardiff. you will start to notice pressure from the north as we go through the latter part of the day. overnight tonight this weather front continues to sink southwards. it is weakening all the time. clearer air follows. and also cooler conditions. we hang on to a lot of cloud in the south. still spots of rain. here it will be milder, comparatively colder in the north. in fact, some parts of scotland, northern ireland and the far north of england are expecting frost. tomorrow the weather front january —— journeys southwards. it will linger across southern areas, including the channel islands, but a lot of sunshine follows behind. cloud in the north and west. those are the temperatures. across the board feeling cooler than it has done. thank you. before the covid pandemic, more than 80% of gp appointments in england were carried out face—to—face. now that figure is just 58%. it's something that ministers want to change, so they're introducing extra funding for surgeries that see more patients on site. we'rejoined now by our regular gp, dr rosemary leonard. rosemary, good to see you, good morning. you have heard of these plans. what do you understand in terms of what you are now required to do? ~ , , , ., to do? well, in my surgery we are already seeing _ to do? well, in my surgery we are already seeing those _ to do? well, in my surgery we are already seeing those patients i to do? well, in my surgery we are already seeing those patients thatj already seeing those patients that need to— already seeing those patients that need to be seen. we are seeing them face-to-face — need to be seen. we are seeing them face—to—face. it is a good thing to involve _ face—to—face. it is a good thing to involve patients in the decision—making about their care, but unfortunately, many patients think— but unfortunately, many patients think they need to be seen when in fact they— think they need to be seen when in fact they can be dealt with much more _ fact they can be dealt with much more efficiently over the phone. and gp surgeries are currently under siege _ gp surgeries are currently under siege we — gp surgeries are currently under siege. we are unbelievably dizzy. we are kind _ siege. we are unbelievably dizzy. we are kind of— siege. we are unbelievably dizzy. we are kind of being expected, we are expected _ are kind of being expected, we are expected to be superhuman. i had somebody— expected to be superhuman. i had somebody write an e—mail yesterday, in big _ somebody write an e—mail yesterday, in big capital letters which felt quite — in big capital letters which felt quite aggressive, saying, i demand i am seen _ quite aggressive, saying, i demand i am seen face—to—face, i have had a blocked _ am seen face—to—face, i have had a blocked nose — am seen face—to—face, i have had a blocked nose for a day and i can't sleep _ blocked nose for a day and i can't sleep now— blocked nose for a day and i can't sleep. now when we have got that sort of— sleep. now when we have got that sort of rhetoric coming in, it makes it very— sort of rhetoric coming in, it makes it very difficult. those that need to be _ it very difficult. those that need to be seen, such as somebody with abdominal— to be seen, such as somebody with abdominal pain, with skin rashes, yes. _ abdominal pain, with skin rashes, yes, we _ abdominal pain, with skin rashes, yes, we see — abdominal pain, with skin rashes, yes, we see them, but a lot can be dealt _ yes, we see them, but a lot can be dealt with— yes, we see them, but a lot can be dealt with much more efficiently over the — dealt with much more efficiently over the phone and it means that actually, — over the phone and it means that actually, we can deal with patients actually, we can deal with patients a lot more. — actually, we can deal with patients a lot more, a lot quicker than we did pre—pandemic. a lot more, a lot quicker than we did pre-pandemic._ a lot more, a lot quicker than we did pre-pandemic. your gp surgery, from the sounds _ did pre-pandemic. your gp surgery, from the sounds of _ did pre-pandemic. your gp surgery, from the sounds of it, _ did pre-pandemic. your gp surgery, from the sounds of it, sounds i did pre-pandemic. your gp surgery, from the sounds of it, sounds as i did pre-pandemic. your gp surgery, from the sounds of it, sounds as if l from the sounds of it, sounds as if it is organised and the patients, would you say, in terms of feedback, getting to see you when it's necessary, medically necessary? yes. we have asked _ necessary, medically necessary? yes. we have asked for _ necessary, medically necessary? yes. we have asked for opinions from viewers and one said it would be nice to get through to my doctor on the phone to book an appointment. any agrees, saying it is so difficult to get through on the phone. lots of tries and then she gets a message to hold. she wants to go to a surgery, asks for an appointment, wants to see a gp face—to—face, hates discussing problems on the phone. with messages like this and rhetoric like this, surely there is, you may be fine, but lots of gp surgeries are not fulfilling that need?— but lots of gp surgeries are not fulfilling that need? yeah, what we have done in _ fulfilling that need? yeah, what we have done in our— fulfilling that need? yeah, what we have done in our surgery _ fulfilling that need? yeah, what we have done in our surgery is - fulfilling that need? yeah, what we have done in our surgery is we i fulfilling that need? yeah, what we have done in our surgery is we do l have done in our surgery is we do triage. _ have done in our surgery is we do triage, checking the patients through, by e—mail. that is open 24 a is a _ through, by e—mail. that is open 24 a is a day _ through, by e—mail. that is open 24 a is a day so— through, by e—mail. that is open 24 a is a day. so when i go into the surgery— a is a day. so when i go into the surgery this _ a is a day. so when i go into the surgery this morning i am fully expecting there is going to be about 60 emails — expecting there is going to be about 60 e—mails there are at least with patient _ 60 e—mails there are at least with patient queries. that means that patients— patient queries. that means that patients are not queueing up on the phone _ patients are not queueing up on the phone we — patients are not queueing up on the phone. we have had support in south london _ phone. we have had support in south london to— phone. we have had support in south london to introduce this type of new technology. and clearly, there is a very mixed — technology. and clearly, there is a very mixed bag of practice out there — very mixed bag of practice out there. and yes, patients, when i hear— there. and yes, patients, when i hear about— there. and yes, patients, when i hear about people queueing up on the phone, _ hear about people queueing up on the phone, it _ hear about people queueing up on the phone, it is _ hear about people queueing up on the phone, it is outdated. in the same way you _ phone, it is outdated. in the same way you send e—mails to every other company— way you send e—mails to every other company and to retailers, you need to be _ company and to retailers, you need to be able _ company and to retailers, you need to be able to send e—mails to your gp. to be able to send e-mails to your gp. y ., ~ to be able to send e-mails to your gp. ~ to be able to send e-mails to your gp. do you think the government is sa in: it gp. do you think the government is saying it knows _ gp. do you think the government is saying it knows better— gp. do you think the government is saying it knows better than - gp. do you think the government is saying it knows better than you i gp. do you think the government is saying it knows better than you in l saying it knows better than you in terms of the gps, in terms of what patients need and what patients are being given?! patients need and what patients are being given?— being given? i feel they don't know better than us. _ being given? i feel they don't know better than us. it _ being given? i feel they don't know better than us. it is _ being given? i feel they don't know better than us. it is very _ being given? i feel they don't know better than us. it is very difficult i better than us. it is very difficult on the _ better than us. it is very difficult on the front line. there are not enough — on the front line. there are not enough doctors. there are 2000 less gps than _ enough doctors. there are 2000 less gps than there were five years ago. and there _ gps than there were five years ago. and there just isn't the workforce to see _ and there just isn't the workforce to see everybody face—to—face. i think— to see everybody face—to—face. i think a _ to see everybody face—to—face. i think a lot — to see everybody face—to—face. i think a lot of people have forgotten that pre—pandemic if you rang to try and get _ that pre—pandemic if you rang to try and get through to your gp to get an appointment, you wouldn't actually be seen _ appointment, you wouldn't actually be seen for two to three weeks. so actually— be seen for two to three weeks. so actually having a telephone appointment within 48 hours is actually— appointment within 48 hours is actually a — appointment within 48 hours is actually a lot more efficient. and i think— actually a lot more efficient. and i think we _ actually a lot more efficient. and i think we need to get away from this emphasis _ think we need to get away from this emphasis on face—to—face, everyone must _ emphasis on face—to—face, everyone must be _ emphasis on face—to—face, everyone must be seen face—to—face. we need to have _ must be seen face—to—face. we need to have a _ must be seen face—to—face. we need to have a mixed way of working so we can see _ to have a mixed way of working so we can see those patients that need to be seen _ can see those patients that need to be seen 0f— can see those patients that need to be seen. of those that don't need to be seen. of those that don't need to be seen. _ be seen. of those that don't need to be seen. we — be seen. of those that don't need to be seen, we need to be able to deal with the _ be seen, we need to be able to deal with the best way we know best. and cuickl . with the best way we know best. and quickly- 0k- — with the best way we know best. fific quickly. 0k. what do with the best way we know best. a"ic quickly. 0k. what do you make of the quickly. ok. what do you make of the headlines this morning in the papers, quoting that gps will be named and shamed and denied money if they don't take up more face—to—face appointments? what is your understanding in terms of the how the process will work? iii understanding in terms of the how the process will work?— the process will work? in terms of the process will work? in terms of the money. _ the process will work? in terms of the money. l _ the process will work? in terms of the money, i have _ the process will work? in terms of the money, i have absolutely i the process will work? in terms of the money, i have absolutely no l the money, i have absolutely no idea _ the money, i have absolutely no idea and — the money, i have absolutely no idea. and frankly, any extra funding is welcome — idea. and frankly, any extra funding is welcome. but when they say it is going _ is welcome. but when they say it is going to _ is welcome. but when they say it is going to pay for extra locums, there are no— going to pay for extra locums, there are no extra — going to pay for extra locums, there are no extra locums. the workforce is completely depleted. and unfortunately, seeing really negative headlines like this means the older— negative headlines like this means the older gps will say, i've had enough. — the older gps will say, i've had enough, i'm going to leave, which will make — enough, i'm going to leave, which will make the problem even worse. stirring _ will make the problem even worse. stirring up— will make the problem even worse. stirring up this anti—gp rhetoric is not helpful — stirring up this anti-gp rhetoric is not helpful-— not helpful. what will helpful? dash-mac _ not helpful. what will helpful? dash-mac what _ not helpful. what will helpful? dash-mac what will _ not helpful. what will helpful? dash-mac what will it - not helpful. what will helpful? dash-mac what will it do? it i not helpful. what will helpful? i dash-mac what will it do? it will drive colleagues _ dash-mac what will it do? it will drive colleagues away. - dash-mac what will it do? it will drive colleagues away. i've i dash-mac what will it do? it will drive colleagues away. i've got i drive colleagues away. i've got colleagues coming towards the end of their careers and they can't take it any more — their careers and they can't take it any more. that is actually going to mean _ any more. that is actually going to mean that— any more. that is actually going to mean that access to gps gets worse and not — mean that access to gps gets worse and not better. i mean that access to gps gets worse and not better-— mean that access to gps gets worse and not better. i know you have said ou have and not better. i know you have said you have absolutely _ and not better. i know you have said you have absolutely no _ and not better. i know you have said you have absolutely no idea - and not better. i know you have said you have absolutely no idea about i you have absolutely no idea about the money, there is this idea i'm trying to figure out with the extra funding, do you now have to say, ok, we are going to do this and we prove that we have more face—to—face appointments, orwe that we have more face—to—face appointments, or we have more locums, and then you get the money? with any extra funding that comes in, generally the way it goes is you have _ in, generally the way it goes is you have to _ in, generally the way it goes is you have to apply for it and say what you are — have to apply for it and say what you are going to do with it. and then— you are going to do with it. and then prove _ you are going to do with it. and then prove that you have done what you said _ then prove that you have done what you said you were going to do. you don't _ you said you were going to do. you don'tjust_ you said you were going to do. you don'tjust get given you said you were going to do. you don't just get given a you said you were going to do. you don'tjust get given a pot of you said you were going to do. you don't just get given a pot of money and see _ don't just get given a pot of money and see if— don't just get given a pot of money and see if this helps. you always have _ and see if this helps. you always have to — and see if this helps. you always have to say, _ and see if this helps. you always have to say, this is what we are going _ have to say, this is what we are going to — have to say, this is what we are going to do _ have to say, this is what we are going to do with it. this is how we are going — going to do with it. this is how we are going to— going to do with it. this is how we are going to use it. i suspect there will be _ are going to use it. i suspect there will be a _ are going to use it. i suspect there will be a system where each region will be a system where each region will be _ will be a system where each region will be given some money out of the gps can— will be given some money out of the gps can say, — will be given some money out of the gps can say, can we have some money? for example, — gps can say, can we have some money? for example, if— gps can say, can we have some money? for example, if we could have a physiotherapist in our practice, it would _ physiotherapist in our practice, it would improve access for people with back pain, _ would improve access for people with back pain, with knee pain, that would — back pain, with knee pain, that would be — back pain, with knee pain, that would be helpful. but we would have to apply— would be helpful. but we would have to apply for it and then we would have _ to apply for it and then we would have to _ to apply for it and then we would have to apply —— find a physiotherapist and put the plan into action and then we would get the money. into action and then we would get the money-— into action and then we would get the mone . ~ . ., , the money. what about employing pharmacies. _ the money. what about employing pharmacies, for _ the money. what about employing pharmacies, for example, - the money. what about employing pharmacies, for example, to i the money. what about employing pharmacies, for example, to take | the money. what about employing i pharmacies, for example, to take up some of these slack?— some of these slack? would that work? yes. _ some of these slack? would that work? yes, one _ some of these slack? would that work? yes, one of— some of these slack? would that work? yes, one of the _ some of these slack? would that work? yes, one of the problems| some of these slack? would that i work? yes, one of the problems we have _ work? yes, one of the problems we have in— work? yes, one of the problems we have in general practice is a lot of people _ have in general practice is a lot of people say, — have in general practice is a lot of people say, i want to see the doctor — people say, i want to see the doctor. patients are often willing to see _ doctor. patients are often willing to see a — doctor. patients are often willing to see a nurse, which they know will do smears— to see a nurse, which they know will do smears or— to see a nurse, which they know will do smears or blood pressure checks, but we _ do smears or blood pressure checks, but we have — do smears or blood pressure checks, but we have a pharmacist now, an excellent — but we have a pharmacist now, an excellent pharmacist, in our surgery. _ excellent pharmacist, in our surgery, who knows a lot more often about _ surgery, who knows a lot more often about drug _ surgery, who knows a lot more often about drug interactions than i do, and yet _ about drug interactions than i do, and yet patients will e—mail saying, i and yet patients will e—mail saying, i only— and yet patients will e—mail saying, i only got— and yet patients will e—mail saying, i only got to see the pharmacist, i need _ i only got to see the pharmacist, i need to— i only got to see the pharmacist, i need to see — i only got to see the pharmacist, i need to see the gp. i think we need to get— need to see the gp. i think we need to get across the idea that we are a bil to get across the idea that we are a big team _ to get across the idea that we are a big team now in primary care, in gp practices, _ big team now in primary care, in gp practices, and you won't necessarily .et practices, and you won't necessarily get to— practices, and you won't necessarily get to see _ practices, and you won't necessarily get to see a — practices, and you won't necessarily get to see a doctor, you will get to see someone who is equally well qualified — see someone who is equally well qualified to deal with your particular problem. but it won't be a doctor _ particular problem. but it won't be a doctor. ., , ,, :, particular problem. but it won't be adoctor. ., , ,, :, :, �* a doctor. rosemary, i know you don't seak for a doctor. rosemary, i know you don't speak for every _ a doctor. rosemary, i know you don't speak for every single _ a doctor. rosemary, i know you don't speak for every single gp _ a doctor. rosemary, i know you don't speak for every single gp in - a doctor. rosemary, i know you don't speak for every single gp in this i speak for every single gp in this country, but i think you have a pretty good feeling, finger on the pulse of what gps are talking about. you talk to many. we are talking to sajid javid in ten minutes. what would be helpful to say to him? you say that anti—gp rhetoric is being stirred up and you know colleagues who are happy to finish early. yes. who are happy to finish early. yes, what we need _ who are happy to finish early. yes, what we need is _ who are happy to finish early. yes, what we need is we _ who are happy to finish early. yes, what we need is we need - who are happy to finish early. yes, what we need is we need much more obvious— what we need is we need much more obvious support. we have worked so hard during — obvious support. we have worked so hard during the pandemic. as has the whole _ hard during the pandemic. as has the whole of— hard during the pandemic. as has the whole of the health service. and somehow — whole of the health service. and somehow we are coming in for all of these _ somehow we are coming in for all of these flak~ — somehow we are coming in for all of these flak. we need to say we are doing _ these flak. we need to say we are doing the — these flak. we need to say we are doing the best we can, there are already— doing the best we can, there are already lots of coughs and colds around — already lots of coughs and colds around, we are giving flu jabs. we are giving— around, we are giving flu jabs. we are giving covid boosters. we are working _ are giving covid boosters. we are working ten to 12 hour days. we need support, _ working ten to 12 hour days. we need support, we _ working ten to 12 hour days. we need support, we don't need all these flak~ _ flak. the message flak. — the message is loud and flak. the messa-e is loud and clear. the message is loud and clear. always good to talk to you. thank you forjoining us.— always good to talk to you. thank you forjoining us. you for 'oining us. take care. yes, sa'id you forjoining us. take care. yes, sajid javid — you forjoining us. take care. yes, sajid javid speaking _ you forjoining us. take care. yes, sajid javid speaking to _ you forjoining us. take care. yes, sajid javid speaking to us - you forjoining us. take care. yes, sajid javid speaking to us at i you forjoining us. take care. yes, sajid javid speaking to us at half i sajid javid speaking to us at half past seven. if you didn't take up enough new hobbies during lockdown, here's another one for you. walrus counting. the british antarctic survey is asking for our help to study satellite images of around 15,000 square miles, to see how many walruses can spot, and where. i don't think we can do it. i am auoin to i don't think we can do it. i am going to start _ i don't think we can do it. i am going to start with _ i don't think we can do it. i am going to start with that - i don't think we can do it. i am going to start with that picture. it is not a satellite image. one, two, three... i think there is a sixth lurking behind. as our global science correspondent rebecca morelle explains, it's not as easy as you might think. huge, blubbery and a bit grumpy. walruses are easy enough to spot. but thanks to their remote arctic location, they're hard to count, and we don't know how many of these giant beasts there are. now, using satellite images, the plan is to locate every atlantic walrus. and scientists say this is essential because climate change means these animals are under threat. the sea ice in which they live most of the year is rapidly diminishing and they are having to change their behaviour and come out onto land much more often. that has almost certainly got some detrimental effects. we are not sure how much their population is being affected by that. hopefully this project will tell us that important information. we have been taking images of the earth from space for more than 60 years, but our view has changed dramatically. in the 1980s, satellites could only see objects 30 metres inside. but they quickly improved and a few years later they could see features ten metres across. today though the most advanced imaging satellites can see details down to just 30 centimetres, and this has transformed our view of the natural world. even at that resolution counting walruses is still a challenge. so the scouts in east molesey have been drafted in to help. the firstjob, scouring through the search area of 25,000 square kilometres to find any images that have a walrus in. it's quite hard because there is rusty barrels and rocks that look really similar. we're helping people find the walruses because they are endangered. it's kind of a challenge as well as they're all hidden and you have to try and search for them and stuff. if it's a little bit blurry then it's harder because sometimes it's rocks. and they are the same colour as a walrus. and then sometimes it's quite easy because it's black in the background and they're kind of highlighted. i really do like the environment, so i want to save the world. i so this is really helping me. but the project is going to need a lot more people to help with the count. we have loaded up more than 600,000 images onto the walrus from space platform. you can access it through the wwf uk website. and we are calling on at least half a million people to help us search for and then count walrus on the platform. the future is uncertain for this icon of the arctic. their icy home is changing faster than anywhere else on the planet. but now with satellite technology, and the help of the public, we should finally find out how many walruses there are and see how they fare in the years to come. rebecca morelle, bbc news. hannah cubaynes from the british antarctic surveyjoins us now. morning to you. good morning. we all love looking — morning to you. good morning. we all love looking at — morning to you. good morning. we all love looking at pictures _ morning to you. good morning. we all love looking at pictures of— love looking at pictures of walruses. but tell me about the project. how can people at home get involved? 50. project. how can people at home get involved? , ., ,y , :, ., involved? so, very easy. if you head to the wwf — involved? so, very easy. if you head to the wwf website _ involved? so, very easy. if you head to the wwf website there _ involved? so, very easy. if you head to the wwf website there is - involved? so, very easy. if you head to the wwf website there is a i involved? so, very easy. if you head| to the wwf website there is a walrus from space _ to the wwf website there is a walrus from space page where you have a link and _ from space page where you have a link and you — from space page where you have a link and you can sign up, and they will bring — link and you can sign up, and they will bring you to this platform. we are in— will bring you to this platform. we are in the — will bring you to this platform. we are in the first phase. we are launching _ are in the first phase. we are launching it today. we are going to ask anyone — launching it today. we are going to ask anyone around the world to look at small— ask anyone around the world to look at small image chips, 200 x 200 metres. — at small image chips, 200 x 200 metres, and tell us whether they see a walrus~ _ metres, and tell us whether they see a walrus~ so — metres, and tell us whether they see a walrus. , :, ~' metres, and tell us whether they see a walrus. ,, ,, :, , metres, and tell us whether they see a walrus. ,, ~' :, , ., a walrus. so you kind of pig a little section _ a walrus. so you kind of pig a little section of— a walrus. so you kind of pig a little section of the _ a walrus. so you kind of pig a little section of the area i a walrus. so you kind of pig a little section of the area that| a walrus. so you kind of pig a - little section of the area that you are looking at and then you look at it? ~ , ., , . ., it? we give you the selection. the section. people _ it? we give you the selection. the section. people will— it? we give you the selection. the section. people will be _ it? we give you the selection. the section. people will be given - section. people will be given various— section. people will be given various coastline randomly. how big is the section? _ various coastline randomly. how big is the section? 200 _ various coastline randomly. how big is the section? 200 x _ various coastline randomly. how big is the section? 200 x 200 _ various coastline randomly. how big is the section? 200 x 200 metres. i various coastline randomly. how big | is the section? 200 x 200 metres. it is the section? 200 x 200 metres. it is uuite is the section? 200 x 200 metres. it is quite small- _ is the section? 200 x 200 metres. it is quite small. you _ is the section? 200 x 200 metres. it is quite small. you can _ is the section? 200 x 200 metres. it is quite small. you can zoom - is the section? 200 x 200 metres. it is quite small. you can zoom in. - is quite small. you can zoom in. what _ is quite small. you can zoom in. what if— is quite small. you can zoom in. what if you _ is quite small. you can zoom in. what if you don't see a walrus can you ask for another section? you say no walrus- — you ask for another section? you say no walrus. then _ you ask for another section? you say no walrus. then it _ you ask for another section? you say no walrus. then it brings _ you ask for another section? you say no walrus. then it brings you - you ask for another section? you say no walrus. then it brings you to - no walrus. then it brings you to another— no walrus. then it brings you to another one. we are hoping that everybody— another one. we are hoping that everybody can contribute 30 minutes and go _ everybody can contribute 30 minutes and go through 50 images, small images — and go through 50 images, small imaaes. �* ., , . , .,~ images. and all the pictures taken on the same _ images. and all the pictures taken on the same day, _ images. and all the pictures taken on the same day, or— images. and all the pictures taken on the same day, or are _ images. and all the pictures taken on the same day, or are you - images. and all the pictures taken i on the same day, or are you changing it? , ., ,., . ., ., ~ it? the same season. we have taken those images — it? the same season. we have taken those images over _ it? the same season. we have taken those images over summer - it? the same season. we have taken those images over summer and - it? the same season. we have taken i those images over summer and autumn because _ those images over summer and autumn because that _ those images over summer and autumn because that is when they come on land and _ because that is when they come on land and it— because that is when they come on land and it is easier for us to count— land and it is easier for us to count them because where they come on land _ count them because where they come on land is _ count them because where they come on land is quite predictable compared to the ice.- on land is quite predictable compared to the ice. from these satellite images, _ compared to the ice. from these satellite images, is _ compared to the ice. from these satellite images, is it _ compared to the ice. from these satellite images, is it easy - compared to the ice. from these satellite images, is it easy to - satellite images, is it easy to identify what is a walrus and what is not a walrus? it could be something else. it is not a walrus? it could be something else.— is not a walrus? it could be something else. it could be. sometimes _ something else. it could be. sometimes it _ something else. it could be. sometimes it is _ something else. it could be. sometimes it is very - something else. it could be. sometimes it is very easy, l something else. it could be. | sometimes it is very easy, it something else. it could be. i sometimes it is very easy, it is clean — sometimes it is very easy, it is clean and _ sometimes it is very easy, it is clear. and other times we have found rusty barrels, piles of them. you can think— rusty barrels, piles of them. you can think it— rusty barrels, piles of them. you can think it is a walrus. we have created — can think it is a walrus. we have created small training to give people — created small training to give heapte a _ created small training to give people a feeling of what a walrus may look— people a feeling of what a walrus may look like from space. it�*s people a feeling of what a walrus may look like from space. it's like those tests _ may look like from space. it's like those tests where _ may look like from space. it's like those tests where the _ may look like from space. it's like those tests where the computer l may look like from space. it's like i those tests where the computer asks you if you are a robot or not, it's like that, isn't it?— like that, isn't it? also, i'm thinking — like that, isn't it? also, i'm thinking if— like that, isn't it? also, i'm thinking if you _ like that, isn't it? also, i'm thinking if you have - like that, isn't it? also, i'm thinking if you have a i like that, isn't it? also, i'm - thinking if you have a gathering, supposing you are seeing that image from space, and i calculated that there are about 350 walruses, approximately come but if you are looking at a giant gathering like that from space, would you actually be able to count them individually, or is itjust bass —— one mass? it is one mass. we will be asking people — is one mass. we will be asking heapte to _ is one mass. we will be asking people to draw the outline around it. people to draw the outline around it they— people to draw the outline around it they are — people to draw the outline around it. they are really social animals, so they— it. they are really social animals, so they always gather together. sometimes they will be snuggling a lot. sometimes they will be snuggling a lot it _ sometimes they will be snuggling a lot it will_ sometimes they will be snuggling a lot. it will be a bit more difficult _ lot. it will be a bit more difficult.— lot. it will be a bit more difficult. ., ., �* , ., difficult. you haven't been out there et difficult. you haven't been out there yet and _ difficult. you haven't been out there yet and you _ difficult. you haven't been out there yet and you are - difficult. you haven't been out there yet and you are going i difficult. you haven't been out there yet and you are going toi difficult. you haven't been out i there yet and you are going to go out next year, aren't you?- out next year, aren't you? yeah, it's the plan — out next year, aren't you? yeah, it's the plan if— out next year, aren't you? yeah, it's the plan if covid _ out next year, aren't you? yeah, it's the plan if covid doesn't i out next year, aren't you? yeah, | it's the plan if covid doesn't come in the _ it's the plan if covid doesn't come in the wax — it's the plan if covid doesn't come in the way. that is the good thing about— in the way. that is the good thing about satellites. we cannot was get satellite _ about satellites. we cannot was get satellite images, covid or no covid-19 _ satellite images, covid or no covid-19-_ satellite images, covid or no covid-19. ., . . ., , covid-19. fantastic. what is the bi . . est covid-19. fantastic. what is the biggest threat _ covid-19. fantastic. what is the biggest threat at _ covid-19. fantastic. what is the biggest threat at the _ covid-19. fantastic. what is the biggest threat at the moment i covid-19. fantastic. what is the | biggest threat at the moment he covid-19. fantastic. what is the i biggest threat at the moment he we have talked about climate change but shipping traffic is a real concern? yes, in the end that is linked to climate — yes, in the end that is linked to climate change. we see the ice reducing — climate change. we see the ice reducing in the arctic. there is more — reducing in the arctic. there is more shipping that is expected to happen — more shipping that is expected to happen. wallace's get really scared by shipping and low—flying planes. that is— by shipping and low—flying planes. that is a _ by shipping and low—flying planes. that is a big problem because when they get— that is a big problem because when they get panicked, they rush for the water~ _ they get panicked, they rush for the water~ the — they get panicked, they rush for the water. the older ones out raise the younger— water. the older ones out raise the younger ones. we want to provide the best information for decision—makers. best information for decision-makers. ., , , decision-makers. how big is the smallest baby _ decision-makers. how big is the smallest baby walrus? _ decision-makers. how big is the smallest baby walrus? could i decision-makers. how big is the | smallest baby walrus? could you decision-makers. how big is the i smallest baby walrus? could you see it from space? i smallest baby walrus? could you see it from space?— it from space? i think you could. adults are _ it from space? i think you could. adults are about _ it from space? i think you could. adults are about four— it from space? i think you could. adults are about four metres i it from space? i think you could. l adults are about four metres long and females are about three metres long _ and females are about three metres long. smaller ones would be like one metre _ long. smaller ones would be like one metre. . , , , metre. that is still significant. lovely to _ metre. that is still significant. lovely to see _ metre. that is still significant. lovely to see you. _ metre. that is still significant. lovely to see you. thank- metre. that is still significant. lovely to see you. thank you. | time now to get the news, travel and weather where you are. good morning. i'm sonja jessup. bbc news has learned that an investigation has been launched into organised abuse at a special school in walthamstow. the local authority and police were called in to whitefield school after cctv footage was found of pupils being physically assaulted and neglected. the school says it has new leadership and practices in place. thames water's performance has been 'unacceptable'— those are the words of the company's chief executive. sarah bentley's been questioned by a committee of mps about their impact on river quality. she said customers find it difficult to contact them, and infrastructure needs improving. but says they're investing billions of pounds. we've put in a really root and branch turnaround plan and changed the executive team. i've got the support of the new shareholders, who have not taken a dividend in four years, and we are absolutely convicted, but the proof will be in the pudding. detectives say they're following a number of leads to try to discover the motive behind the murder of a student in twickenham on tuesday. is—year—old hazrat wali was attacked on a playing field. he's the 25th teenager to be killed in london this year. people living in an east london tower block say they're suffering with leaks, vermin and the building's in disrepair. it's called charles dickens house, and some residents have likened their conditions to living in the victorian era. from work, you need to come back to a very comfortable home, and at the moment i don't have a comfortable home. ijust come home and sometimes i feel stressed as well, because i'm not having good sleep and it's really affecting my health. the social landlord, thch, says it's sorry and is working hard to resolve issues. now you might remember, last month we met two of the new gentoo penguins at the london aquarium named raducanu and gilbert. that's gilbert after professor dame sarah gilbert, who co—developed the oxford astrazeneca covid vaccine. yesterday, they came face to face. let's take a look at the travel now. both the circle line and the metropolitan lines have minor delays at the moment — it's after some trains were cancelled. time for the weather. here's sara thornton. good morning to you. not quite as chilly a start across london and the south—east as yesterday morning, where we saw temperatures in low to mid—single figures. we are in high single figures and low double figures this morning, and we have some mist and murkiness around to start us off. it's cloudy through the day, but generally dry, and we will see breaks in the cloud at times. you can see it thinning and breaking here and there as the day wears on. in the best of it, not a bad day at all. 16 or 17 degrees celsius. let's watch what happens through the night tonight. and we have a few weak fronts skirting around us. one of them comes in overnight tonight, on a freshening wind with a bit of cloud and maybe the odd spot of rain. into tomorrow morning, the temperatures holding up into low double figures. the day itself tomorrow, yes, some cloud and a bit of patchy drizzle across, but there will be sunshine at times and temperatures a little bit cooler than they have been in the coming days. dry and settled through the weekend. rain next week. i'm back in an hour. plenty more on our website. now i'll hand you back to charlie and naga. bye for now. hello, this is breakfast with charlie stayt and naga munchetty. league tables for gp surgeries are to be introduced in an attempt to increase the number of face—to—face appointments. practices that fail to provide an "appropriate" level of appointments in person won't be eligible for £250 million worth of new nhs funding. let's speak to the health and social care secretary, sajid javid. could you first explain how the system will work? let could you first explain how the system will work?— could you first explain how the system will work? let me tell you at the start that _ system will work? let me tell you at the start that i — system will work? let me tell you at the start that i want _ system will work? let me tell you at the start that i want to _ system will work? let me tell you at the start that i want to thank - system will work? let me tell you at the start that i want to thank gps i the start that i want to thank gps for the phenomenal work they have been doing, especially during the pandemic but everything they continue to do and i want to support them in doing what they do best, which is to see patients, more patients properly in a way that the patients properly in a way that the patients choose and that is what today's announcement is about. this package is support at multiple levels based on the feedback that we got from gps, for example, they wanted more funding to increase capacity and we are providing that over the winter, an additional 250 million and i was told that some of the infection protection control in their view was not needed and they needed an independent review and thatis needed an independent review and that is what the hell security agency has done and they will be changing some of those rules and i was also told that there was too much on and others could help in the primary care system and that's why we will be expanding the community pharmacy scheme and all of this taken together means gps can see more patients, see them properly and offer more face—to—face appointments. offer more face-to-face appointments.— offer more face-to-face a- ointments. . ,, ., , appointments. talk me through this. if i am a appointments. talk me through this. lfl am a gp — appointments. talk me through this. if i am a gp listening _ appointments. talk me through this. if i am a gp listening and _ appointments. talk me through this. if i am a gp listening and i _ appointments. talk me through this. if i am a gp listening and i have i appointments. talk me through this. if i am a gp listening and i have a i if i am a gp listening and i have a gp practice and i think i'm doing a good job and seeing the people who need to be seen and trying to work under enormous pressure, so what have i got to do to access this £250,000,000? my share? what do i have to prove? {bps £250,000,000? my share? what do i have to prove?— have to prove? gps will have their contracts with _ have to prove? gps will have their contracts with the _ have to prove? gps will have their contracts with the nhs _ have to prove? gps will have their contracts with the nhs and - have to prove? gps will have their contracts with the nhs and this i contracts with the nhs and this funding will be provided through their partnership with the nhs and all they have to do and they will use the extra funding to see more patients and give patients a choice on how they are seen and that is something that couldn't be done quickly and the money will hit the ground quickly, over the next five months, and this is on top of the extra funding we have put into primary care, an additional ll.5 billion per year under the nhs long—term plan, but this extra funding will increase capacity but also the measures go beyond just funding and there were other things that the gps talked about, about cutting red tape and getting help for other parts of the primary care system, pharmacists, for example and by doing all of those and that once it can help surge capacity. if by doing all of those and that once it can help surge capacity.— it can help surge capacity. if i'm runnina it can help surge capacity. if i'm running a _ it can help surge capacity. if i'm running a gp — it can help surge capacity. if i'm running a gp practice, - it can help surge capacity. if i'm running a gp practice, and i i it can help surge capacity. if i'm running a gp practice, and i run | it can help surge capacity. if i'm i running a gp practice, and i run my gp practice and i think i know best, they don't think you as a government no better about running the practice and the right to say if what i'm doing is exactly right, can i have access to the funding? is the answer no, because your assumption is they have to change? the no, because your assumption is they have to change?— have to change? the funding is to increase capacity _ have to change? the funding is to increase capacity and _ have to change? the funding is to increase capacity and most - have to change? the funding is to | increase capacity and most people will appreciate that different practices are in different positions and being able to do that and the funding will be targeted at those that need it to increase capacity and there may well be practices and i'm sure there are that are able right now as we speak able to offer the patients the choice they want and are able to see them promptly in the cases where necessary. the point i would like — the cases where necessary. the point i would like to — the cases where necessary. the point i would like to make _ the cases where necessary. the point i would like to make is, _ the cases where necessary. the point i would like to make is, are _ the cases where necessary. the point i would like to make is, are you i i would like to make is, are you suggesting there are gp practices that don't need any more money, because all gp practices have been working under the most intense pressure and we know there's a backlog of people trying to see gps, so why don't you just give gp practices more money? why put them under the cosh to prove something in advance? i under the cosh to prove something in advance? , ., ., .., , ., advance? i will tell you a couple of thins, advance? i will tell you a couple of things. and — advance? i will tell you a couple of things, and first _ advance? i will tell you a couple of things, and first of _ advance? i will tell you a couple of things, and first of all _ advance? i will tell you a couple of things, and first of all during i advance? i will tell you a couple of things, and first of all during the i things, and first of all during the pandemic, that's exactly what we have done. during the pandemic we have done. during the pandemic we have put in an extra £45,000,000,000 last year, 34,000,000,000 this year into the nhs in care and much of that has gone to primary care including gp practices so that is one thing that has already happened. what this announcement is about is specifically about increasing capacity so more patients can be seenin capacity so more patients can be seen in the way that they want to be seen. 50 seen in the way that they want to be seen. ,, ., ., seen in the way that they want to be seen. ., ,., ., seen. so give them all some more mone . seen. so give them all some more money- it — seen. so give them all some more money- it seems _ seen. so give them all some more money. it seems straightforward. | seen. so give them all some more i money. it seems straightforward. and in terms of how gps themselves have reacted, you might be familiar that one of our regular gps on this programme is rosemary leonard, a well respected voice amongst gps and she says what you as health secretary are doing is staring up anti— gp rhetoric. on top of which, she says, if you are saying that they should go out and hire more staff to get more people to work for them, and i think one of the plans is to get locums, temporary staff, she says you have no idea because there are no locums to employ. that is the problem. i there are no locums to employ. that is the problem-— is the problem. i will say a couple of thins is the problem. i will say a couple of things to _ is the problem. i will say a couple of things to that. _ is the problem. i will say a couple of things to that. first _ is the problem. i will say a couple of things to that. first of - is the problem. i will say a couple of things to that. first of all, i is the problem. i will say a couple of things to that. first of all, gps| of things to that. first of all, gps have done a phenomenaljob and we are so lucky to have our system of primary care and the fantastic gps we have. what they've also been under over the last few years is an enormous amount of pressure and they have risen to the pressure and on the vaccination programme and continue to do on vaccinations. this is about providing more support and if i say one more thing, there are people out there and i've seen it myself on social media that have given abuse to gps and there has been actually violence against gps and it's completely totally unacceptable and there will be a zero tolerance policy and one of the things i want to do in this package, based on the feedback i was getting from gps is support on that and that's why it includes a £5,000,000 security fund, so if there are practices that think they might need cctv or panic buttons or other support, that is available. i feel ou are support, that is available. i feel you are slightly _ support, that is available. i feel you are slightly missing - support, that is available. i feel you are slightly missing point. i support, that is available. i feel you are slightly missing point. the one gp we spoke to, and i accept it's only one, but i'm looking at the bma response to what you said and they have said the package as a whole offers very little and shows a government completely out of touch with the scale of the crisis on the ground, and this seems to be the key issue. you are talking about installing cctv of people are angry but you are being accused this morning by a gp of staring up the rhetoric, the anti— gp rhetoric. they are accusing you of that. this is a support _ they are accusing you of that. try 3 is a support package. most people find it hard to see how a quarter of £1,000,000,000 of extra funding, how changes in red tape that were asked for and getting pharmacists to take some of the workload, how that is not going to help gps in terms of what they love to do best which is seeing their patients. this is all about support, especially over the crucial winter period and let's remember that during the pandemic we have had people rightly and understandably staying away from the nhs, including their doctors because they were asked to during the height of the pandemic and there are many people out there on waiting lists who need help and it's important they come forward and get the support to doctors, and it makes sense to ask people to do that, but at the same time provide the support that gps have asked for. and we will continue to work with gps to see what we can do.— continue to work with gps to see what we can do. why you are not emboldening _ what we can do. why you are not emboldening gps _ what we can do. why you are not emboldening gps to _ what we can do. why you are not emboldening gps to make i what we can do. why you are not emboldening gps to make their. what we can do. why you are not i emboldening gps to make their own decisions? one gp said this morning she got an angry email from a patient demanding to be seen face—to—face because they had a blocked nose for a week. your mantra seems to be it is right that patients should see the gp, and what should they do for fear now that you and your government cohorts will not come along and say, why aren't you seeing people face—to—face? come along and say, why aren't you seeing people face-to-face? patient reference seeing people face-to-face? patient preference is — seeing people face-to-face? patient preference is hugely _ seeing people face-to-face? patient preference is hugely important i seeing people face-to-face? patient preference is hugely important and i preference is hugely important and gps i speak to say that we need more support to do that. i am gps i speak to say that we need more support to do that.— support to do that. i am asking you somethin: support to do that. i am asking you something specific. _ support to do that. i am asking you something specific. you _ support to do that. i am asking you something specific. you are - support to do that. i am asking you something specific. you are not i support to do that. i am asking you something specific. you are not a l something specific. you are not a doctor and neither am i, something specific. you are not a doctorand neitheram i, but something specific. you are not a doctor and neither am i, but you are saying that the patient is always right, if i'm understanding you rightly, so if patients are demanding to be seen face—to—face, which the gp determines to be not important, so they can do it over the phone, you seem to be saying that the patient is right and they should always be seen face—to—face. a gp will have a relationship with their patient and the patient in the first instance will call through to the surgery and there will be a discussion and gps will make a decision with that patient and they will decide what is clinically appropriate, but in cases where it is clear that the patient should be seen face—to—face if that's what they want, it's important that the patient is given the choice and this is the package that will help. we need to supply more support and we felt it was necessary and we started talking to gps and other people involved in primary care and this is a very comprehensive package that we have put together with the nhs, with fresh funding and support in so many ways that i think it's going to make a difference when you take it all together and it's going to help. share together and it's going to help. are there fewer gps now than there were two years ago? ida. there fewer gps now than there were two years ago?— there fewer gps now than there were two years ago? no, those 1,200 more on a full-time — two years ago? no, those 1,200 more on a full-time equivalent _ two years ago? no, those 1,200 more on a full-time equivalent basis. i two years ago? no, those 1,200 more on a full-time equivalent basis. my i on a full—time equivalent basis. my understanding was that there are 2,000 fewer gps now than there were five years ago, and the fear is that part of the pressure being put on gps now, for a number of reasons, is that a lot more will retire early and that will compound the problem. we do have two fewer gps and the government has been clear about that for a number of years. you asked me over the last two years, in fact the numbers have gone up in the last two years, not by enough, but they have gone up. but we also need to keep investing in is why, for example, this year i was really pleased to see that the number of students entering medical school to become future gps was the highest number ever. we have got to keep investing in recruitment, and of course, at the other end, gps will retire when they choose to retire but we have to keep investing and make sure more people are attracted to primary care and that is a priority and remains a priority and we are putting a record amount of investment into that as well. , , ., amount of investment into that as well. , ., , amount of investment into that as well. , . ., ., well. just to be clear, you are sa inc well. just to be clear, you are saying there _ well. just to be clear, you are saying there are _ well. just to be clear, you are saying there are more - well. just to be clear, you are saying there are more gps i well. just to be clear, you are i saying there are more gps arriving into the profession than there are leaving? it's a very important difference, isn't it?— leaving? it's a very important difference, isn't it? you asked me to be precise. _ difference, isn't it? you asked me to be precise, and _ difference, isn't it? you asked me to be precise, and what _ difference, isn't it? you asked me to be precise, and what i'm i difference, isn't it? you asked me to be precise, and what i'm being| to be precise, and what i'm being precise about is and you asked me over the last two years, that over the last two years there's been an increase of around 1,200 in terms of full—time gps, and as i've said, that's not enough and we need to keep investing and that is why we are seeing more student numbers which is encouraging as well and of course we also get gps from abroad and things so it's notjust new students for medical school and it's important we keep investing. you are thusl are important we keep investing. you are thusly are new _ important we keep investing. you are thusly are new in _ important we keep investing. you are thusly are new in the _ important we keep investing. you are thusly are new in the job _ important we keep investing. you are thusly are new in the job and - important we keep investing. you are thusly are new in the job and we've . thusly are new in the job and we've not spoken to you since the coronavirus lessons learned report ? obviously new. are you prepared to say in your role as health secretary, and it's an important voice you have, especially for the families that lost loved ones, are you prepared to say sorry, an unequivocal sorry for the failures that took place? fii unequivocal sorry for the failures that took place?— that took place? of course i'm sor . that took place? of course i'm sorry- and _ that took place? of course i'm sorry- and i — that took place? of course i'm sorry. and i am _ that took place? of course i'm sorry. and i am new _ that took place? of course i'm sorry. and i am new in - that took place? of course i'm sorry. and i am new in the i that took place? of course i'm i sorry. and i am new in the role, but on behalf of the government, i am sorry for during the pandemic for anyone who suffered, especially anyone who suffered, especially anyone who suffered, especially anyone who lost a loved one, a mother, dad, brother, sister, friend, of course i'm sorry. and all of those people who may not have lost someone but they are still suffering. there are many people suffering. there are many people suffering from a long covid and we still don't know the impact of that. of course i am and there will be lessons to learn from this pandemic for this government, for governments across the world there will be lessons and it's important that is done and there will be a public enquiry and i think that is the best place to learn these lessons and i don't want to pre—empt any outcome from that but if you're asking me if i'm sorry, of course i am. 5ajid i'm sorry, of course i am. said javid, i'm sorry, of course i am. said javid. we d i'm sorry, of course i am. said javid, we appreciate i i'm sorry, of course i am. said javid, we appreciate youri i'm sorry, of course i am. sajid javid, we appreciate your time| i'm sorry, of course i am. sajid javid, we appreciate your time this morning. thank you very much. it has just it hasjust gone it has just gone quarter to eight and we will talk to mike about the sport. the young international, wales international, diagnosed with a form of cancer. david brooks having to take time out of the game to fight cancer, like many players have successfully before and the good news is the prognosis is positive in the early diagnosis of stage two hodgkin lymphoma and lots of love on twitter. aaron ramsdale, the england goalkeeper, and bamba came through a council? cancer battle, that will help. whatever field you are in. the wales international, david brooks, says he's confident of making a full recovery, after he announced that he has cancer, stage 2 hodgkin lymphoma. brooks has been playing his club football for bournemouth since 2018, and he was part of the wales squad, for euro 2020. his most recent game was in the championship at the end of september, and withdrew from the most recent wales squad through illness. he revealed his diagnosis on twitter and added, bournemouth have also offered their support saying on social media," we're all behind you brooksy". next to matters on the pitch, and it will have been a happy flight back from italy, for chelsea's women, after they beat juventus 2—1 in turin, in champions league.. danish international pernille harder, scored the winner. chelsea have 4 points from their first two group games, and are second in their group to wolfsburg on goal difference. in tennis, britain's cameron norrie continues to rise. he's into the quarter—finals at indian wells in california, the british number two beat the american 6—4, 4—6, 6—2. he'll face argentina's diego schwartzman, next for a place in the last four this evening. ronnie o'sullivan said he was bored in his last match in the northern ireland open but was not critical of the fans. he's only dropped two frames this week and will play yan bingtao next. what i love about ronnie o'sullivan, he is honest. he doesn't do the pr thing at all. i wasjust bored. lack doesn't do the pr thing at all. i was just bored. lack of atmosphere, because of the venue, not the fans. sometimes hejust because of the venue, not the fans. sometimes he just says because of the venue, not the fans. sometimes hejust says he because of the venue, not the fans. sometimes he just says he wasn't in the mood. he goes on his runs to take him away from it, and he should go in the belfast countryside. we will see if the weather is good enough. carroll will tell us all about it, but everyone in the uk, if they want to nip out today. go now, is what i would say. it's not strictly _ go now, is what i would say. it's not strictly true _ go now, is what i would say. it�*s not strictly true and it's true in scotland and the far north of northern ireland because we have some rain coming your way. good morning, everybody, and also it will be windy across the far north, and today it's mainly cloudy for most of us with limited amounts of sunshine and what is happening is we have a cold front sinking south, and behind it we have cooler conditions following on but look at the isobars. pretty windy with gales across parts of the northern isles and also the far north of mainland scotland so if you're stepping out mid—morning, you will be looking at rain and some of it will be happy across the north of scotland and the north—east could miss it but it is coming. for northern ireland and northern england, a fair bit of cloud with the odd spot here and there and as we come further south, again, cloudy scenario this morning with the odd spot of rain here and there but most will be dry and we could see a little bit of sunshine but it's going to be limited through the course of the day. the weather front continues to sink southwards, eventually getting to the borders and also through northern ireland and also through northern ireland and it will be followed by showers, and it will be followed by showers, and some of those in cooler conditions could be wintry on higher ground but has become south again we hang on to the morning scenario, which is a fair bit of cloud, limited sunshine and temperatures around 17 . the temperature is going to slip as we go through the course of the night and it is following on from the weather front sinking south. we see clearer skies following and cool air coming our way and in scotland, parts of northern england and northern ireland we could see a touch of frost, but where we have the weather front with the cloud and spots of rain, it is going to remain comparatively mild. tomorrow, we start with cloud and spots of rain in the south so again it will be milder here, but for much of the uk it will be a beautiful day with sunshine around but it will feel cooler foremost than it has done and areas of cloud at time flirting with the north and west and the temperature wayne is nine in lerwick and aberdeen up to about 17 in plymouth and st helier. as we step into saturday we start with a touch of frost across parts of scotland and north—east england and possibly east anglia but through the course of the day we see how the cloud bills and we have a new set of weather fronts coming our way and they will introduce strengthening wind in the west and then this rain. don't take the position of the reign as gospel. make sure you keep in touch with the weather forecast if you're doing anything outside because yesterday we had the rain coming in a bit faster and today it's a bit slower and that could change again. on sunday it looks like the rain will move across scotland and by sunday we will all be in the milder air, notjust england, wales and northern ireland and you can also see there will be areas of cloud and sunshine and a top temperature of 17 or 18 . did you just tell me not to say ? take anything you said as gospel? no, you won't listening properly. i heard what you said. i will keep an eye on the weather forecast. thanks. when evanna lynch was cast as luna lovegood in the harry potter films, it was a life—changing role for her in many ways. she already had a special connection to harry — and the authoij rowling — saying both helped her to overcome an eating disorder in her teens. she's written about it in her new memoir. before we speak to evanna, let's take a look back at her most famous role. look, we will talk later. harry, harry potter. _ look, we will talk later. harry, harry potter, listen _ look, we will talk later. harry, harry potter, listen to - look, we will talk later. harry, harry potter, listen to me i look, we will talk later. harry, | harry potter, listen to me right now _ harry potter, listen to me right now don't _ harry potter, listen to me right now. don't you remember what they said about _ now. don't you remember what they said about raven claw? there's not a person _ said about raven claw? there's not a person alive — said about raven claw? there's not a person alive who has seen it. it's obvious, — person alive who has seen it. it's obvious, isn't it? you have to talk to someone — obvious, isn't it? you have to talk to someone who is dead. what an interesting — to someone who is dead. what an interesting necklace. it is a charm, actually _ interesting necklace. it is a charm, actually~ lt — interesting necklace. it is a charm, actually. it keeps away the miracles. hungry. i hope there is pudding — hello, harry. luna, how did you know where i hello, harry. luna, how did you know where l was- — hello, harry. luna, how did you know where i was. your— hello, harry. luna, how did you know where i was. your head _ hello, harry. luna, how did you know where i was. your head is _ hello, harry. luna, how did you know where i was. your head is full - hello, harry. luna, how did you know where i was. your head is full of i where i was. your head is full of them. evanna joins us now. it's interesting. people will know at home that we have monitors here that shows what people at home are seeing and we can see it in the studio as well and when your harry potter appearances came up, you kind of look to the other way, rather pointedly and deliberately looked away. do pointedly and deliberately looked awa . pointedly and deliberately looked awa. ., .,, pointedly and deliberately looked awa. ., ,., away. do you want to be shown your 1�*l-year-old — away. do you want to be shown your 14-year-old self _ away. do you want to be shown your 14-year-old self at _ away. do you want to be shown your 14-year-old self at eight _ away. do you want to be shown your 14-year-old self at eight o'clock i away. do you want to be shown your 14-year-old self at eight o'clock in l 14—year—old self at eight o'clock in the morning? 14-year-old self at eight o'clock in the morning?— the morning? no, and it's a really aood the morning? no, and it's a really good point. _ the morning? no, and it's a really good point. but — the morning? no, and it's a really good point, but i'm _ the morning? no, and it's a really good point, but i'm thinking, i the morning? no, and it's a really good point, but i'm thinking, is. good point, but i'm thinking, is there something in that which is we see the magic of harry potter and there is a bit of you thinking, i remember what things were going on personally. i know you got in touch with jk rowling personally. i know you got in touch witth rowling before you actually got cast, but you were struggling with quite a lot of things. yes. got cast, but you were struggling with quite a lot of things. yes, by the time i — with quite a lot of things. yes, by the time i was _ with quite a lot of things. yes, by the time i was doing _ with quite a lot of things. yes, by the time i was doing the - with quite a lot of things. yes, by the time i was doing the films i l with quite a lot of things. yes, by l the time i was doing the films i had moved on a fair bit, but, yes, it does bring me back to who i was in the anxiety and the insecurity of being a teenager, so that's probably what i'm reacting to, but, yes, i mean, that film in that time, it had a transformative effect on my life and my mental health and everything, really. it’s and my mental health and everything, reall . �* , and my mental health and everything, reall. h ,, really. it's intriguing, because the connection. _ really. it's intriguing, because the connection, and _ really. it's intriguing, because the connection, and i— really. it's intriguing, because the connection, and i didn't _ really. it's intriguing, because the connection, and i didn't know- really. it's intriguing, because the connection, and i didn't know it i connection, and i didn't know it until we were doing our research that you had a connection with until we were doing our research that you had a connection witth rowling before. you were pen pals or you wrote to her? it rowling before. you were pen pals or you wrote to her?— you wrote to her? it was quite a fluke, you wrote to her? it was quite a fluke. really- — you wrote to her? it was quite a fluke, really. i— you wrote to her? it was quite a fluke, really. iwrote _ you wrote to her? it was quite a fluke, really. i wrote to - you wrote to her? it was quite a fluke, really. i wrote to her- you wrote to her? it was quite a i fluke, really. i wrote to her while i was going through my eating disorder because as anyone with an eating disorder will know, it's a unique thing for something to take your mind off, and for me that was harry potter and the books and they had the power of capturing my imagination and i wrote to herjust to thank her, and i don't know why, but she read my letter and wrote back and since then ? did that have anything to do with you being cast in the film? it was quite unrelated and people get confused because i went to an open casting call and i was like, i didn't want to tell her that i got the role because i thought she might be disappointed because, you know, i had all of theseissues because, you know, i had all of these issues in my past and i thought you might want somebody who does not have mental health issues and there was that anxiety and there is stigma around that and people think, you have to get better and heal yourself to go back into society but i really think there's a lot of healing from helping people with mental health issues to reintegrate into society and find a way to contribute. but reintegrate into society and find a way to contribute.— way to contribute. but she's also been quite _ way to contribute. but she's also been quite open _ way to contribute. but she's also been quite open about _ way to contribute. but she's also been quite open about her- way to contribute. but she's also been quite open about her own i been quite open about her own struggles as well. did you ever talk to her about it? she struggles as well. did you ever talk to her about it?— to her about it? she was more 'ust cenerous to her about it? she was more 'ust geneeus in — to her about it? she was more 'ust generous in heri to her about it? she was more 'ust generous in her letters, i to her about it? she was more just generous in her letters, towards . to her about it? she was more just. generous in her letters, towards my situation, but i could always sense that she has all of this wisdom, but i was also an ii—year—old child and she was an adult and had all that wisdom, so it was a different kind of connection. it’s wisdom, so it was a different kind of connection.— of connection. it's quite a brave thin , of connection. it's quite a brave thing. and _ of connection. it's quite a brave thing. and you _ of connection. it's quite a brave thing, and you are _ of connection. it's quite a brave thing, and you are only - of connection. it's quite a brave thing, and you are only 30 i of connection. it's quite a brave| thing, and you are only 30 now, of connection. it's quite a brave i thing, and you are only 30 now, to write so openly about your troubles and things that may be people don't know about your life. quite a big decision to do that. what was your motivation? i know you've spoken about it in the past, but to put it out there in a book, what was the motivation?— out there in a book, what was the motivation? ., ., , ., ., ., motivation? that was the motivation because i'd spoken _ motivation? that was the motivation because i'd spoken aloud _ motivation? that was the motivation because i'd spoken aloud sit - motivation? that was the motivation because i'd spoken aloud sit in - motivation? that was the motivation because i'd spoken aloud sit in the i because i'd spoken aloud sit in the press and ifound my because i'd spoken aloud sit in the press and i found my story to turn it into a fiction, that for us ? frustrated me.— it into a fiction, that for us ? frustrated me. it's more complex than that — frustrated me. it's more complex than that. when _ frustrated me. it's more complex than that. when you _ frustrated me. it's more complex than that. when you say - frustrated me. it's more complex than that. when you say it - frustrated me. it's more complex than that. when you say it was i than that. when you say it was turned into a fairy tale, what do you mean?— turned into a fairy tale, what do ou mean? ., ., i, turned into a fairy tale, what do ou mean? ., ., ., ., you mean? the ideal that i to get a art in you mean? the ideal that i to get a part in harry _ you mean? the ideal that i to get a part in harry potter _ you mean? the ideal that i to get a part in harry potter or— you mean? the ideal that i to get a part in harry potter or it _ you mean? the ideal that i to get a part in harry potter or it came - part in harry potter or it came first because you cannot incentivise recovery and you can't coax people out of their issues. it has to be something you find within an something you find within an something deeper and i think there were two crucial years between recovering physically and getting the role in harry potter and those are important. i didn't go straight from the hospital onto the set. i wanted to explain that because it was doing a disservice to people you have these issues and to my past self to say it was all self with acting in a dream come true, and it's not the truth, so i wanted to show the complexity, the nuances and tell my own story in my own words, so i can move on, i think. haifa tell my own story in my own words, so i can move on, ithink.— so i can move on, i think. how easy is it to tell— so i can move on, i think. how easy is it to tell the — so i can move on, i think. how easy is it to tell the story? _ so i can move on, i think. how easy is it to tell the story? when - so i can move on, i think. how easy is it to tell the story? when you - is it to tell the story? when you are writing it, it's quite a lonely thing, solitary thing and you have no choice but to kind of face painful moments and look with self—examination at how you deal with whenever those thoughts come back, if they do, and how you live your life now and how you have changed. i your life now and how you have chanced. ~ , your life now and how you have chanced. ~' , . changed. i think there is so much heahnu changed. i think there is so much healin: in changed. i think there is so much healing in expressing _ changed. i think there is so much healing in expressing that - changed. i think there is so much healing in expressing that stuff . changed. i think there is so much l healing in expressing that stuff and it was a relief to put it down on paper and that is where the problems come when you take the darkness and keep it inside, so shedding light and humour on and having a laugh but also perspective, that was really healing. also perspective, that was really healinu. ~ ., ., ., ., also perspective, that was really healinu. ., ., ., ., healing. who do you want to read it and who do — healing. who do you want to read it and who do you _ healing. who do you want to read it and who do you think— healing. who do you want to read it and who do you think will— healing. who do you want to read it and who do you think will benefit i and who do you think will benefit from it? i and who do you think will benefit from it? ., , and who do you think will benefit from it? , from it? i hope, i suppose, sensitive — from it? i hope, i suppose, sensitive young _ from it? i hope, i suppose, sensitive young people - from it? i hope, i suppose, i sensitive young people who from it? i hope, i suppose, - sensitive young people who are struggling with these issues and their own self—worth and also for families of people struggling with eating disorders and, i hope, mental health professionals, their doctors and support team, because i think it's misunderstood and an issue that gets so sensationalised for its political manifestation of the symptoms and there is something much deeper going on and i wish we could talk about the deeper problems. aha, talk about the deeper problems. a point well made and on a frivolous note, do you keep in touch with the harry potter cast, like get—together question mark definitely. i saw james question mark definitely. i saw james and _ question mark definitely. i saw james and oliver _ question mark definitely. i saw james and oliver fox _ question mark definitely. i saw james and oliver fox recentlyl james and oliver fox recently stopped they are making a documentary, and it's like family. you had a strange shared experience, notwithstanding the other things you have talked about. everybody had a strange time and they were launched, and growing up, and you have an unusual barn. it and growing up, and you have an unusual barn.— and growing up, and you have an unusual barn. it has strengthened over the years _ unusual barn. it has strengthened over the years because _ unusual barn. it has strengthened over the years because the - unusual barn. it has strengthened over the years because the more | over the years because the more distance we get from it, the older we get, it doesn't leave. it is a thing and it overshadows a lot of other stuff in your life, so it has been nice to think that they get it and they understand what is going on. do and they understand what is going on. , ., , and they understand what is going on. , ., on. do people recognise you as luna lovegood? — on. do people recognise you as luna lovegood? yes- _ on. do people recognise you as luna lovegood? yes. it's— on. do people recognise you as luna lovegood? yes. it's the _ on. do people recognise you as luna lovegood? yes. it's the voice - on. do people recognise you as luna lovegood? yes. it's the voice for- lovegood? yes. it's the voice for me. lovegood? yes. it's the voice for me- some _ lovegood? yes. it's the voice for me. some people _ lovegood? jazz it's the voice for me. some people will say lovegood? ils it's the voice for me. some people will say you look like someone i know at school and i open my mouth, and they get it. it's not something, and i know you turned away when you saw the initial clips. i am proud of it. it was an honour to have played such a lovely character who helps people. she kind of helps the people who don't fit in, so i'm really honoured, but i just don't particularly like looking at it. ito just don't particularly like looking at it. :, :, just don't particularly like looking at it. ., :, ., , just don't particularly like looking at it. :, :, ., , ~ , at it. no one really likes looking back at their _ at it. no one really likes looking back at their 14-year-old - at it. no one really likes looking back at their 14-year-old self, l at it. no one really likes looking i back at their 14-year-old self, you back at their 14—year—old self, you are absolutely right to say. luna lovegood, a joy to talk to you. thanks for having me on. evanna's book is called "the opposite of butterfly hunting." stay with us, headlines coming up. good morning, welcome to breakfast with naga munchetty and charlie stayt. our headlines today. more money for gps to see patients face to face, but they'll be named and shamed if they don't offer enough appointments. it's clear that the patient should be seen — it's clear that the patient should be seen face to face if that is what they want. — be seen face to face if that is what they want, and it's important the patient _ they want, and it's important the patient is — they want, and it's important the patient is given a choice. this is the package that will help to do that _ five people are killed and two more are injured in norway, by a man using a bow and arrow. good morning. delays and disruptions at uk ports. the chancellor tells the bbc the government is doing everything it can to fix supply chain issues, which he says are a global problem. prince william tells space entrepreneurs to stop trying to reach new planets, and focus on solving the problems here on earth instead. it's the idea that we need some of the world's greatest brains and minds fixed on trying to repair this planet, not trying to find the next place to go and live. good morning. there is some mist and fog this morning per —— particularly in england. a lot of cloud, limited to sunshine and wet and windy weather moving on from the good morning. it's thursday, the 14th of october. our main story. gp practices in england are being offered an extra £250 million this winter, to help them see more patients in person. but the doctors' union has criticised the plan to publish league tables on face—to—face appointments, saying it'll push more gps out of the profession. here's more from our health reporter, jim reed. so i got your message just now about the pain in your knee, yeah? the pandemic has changed the way many of us access a gp. for some, telephone and online consultations have replaced face—to—face appointments. under these plans the government says £250 million will be made available to boost access to family doctors in england. it's meant to pay for more temporary or locum gps, as well as support staff like physiotherapists. there is a promise to cut some red tape and more cash for security at a time when doctors say they are dealing with high levels of abuse. social distancing rules for gps are also being reviewed, which could allow more patient in waiting rooms. in a statement the health secretary said, "i am determined to ensure patients can see their gp in the way they want, no matter where they live." gps will have their contracts with the nhs. this funding will be provided through a relationship with the nhs. they have to show how they will use the extra funding to increase capacity, to see more patient and to give patients choice in how they are seen. the new cash for gps though is part of a £5 billion covid fund already announced by ministers to get the nhs through this winter. the doctors' union says the package does not go nearly far enough. it is very difficult actually on the front— it is very difficult actually on the front line — it is very difficult actually on the front line. there are not enough doctors — front line. there are not enough doctors. there are 2000 less gps than _ doctors. there are 2000 less gps than there — doctors. there are 2000 less gps than there were five years ago. and they're _ than there were five years ago. and they're actuallyjust isn't the workforce to see everybody face to face _ workforce to see everybody face to face i_ workforce to see everybody face to face. i think a lot of people have forgotten — face. i think a lot of people have forgotten that pre—pandemic if you ran. forgotten that pre—pandemic if you rang to— forgotten that pre—pandemic if you rang to try— forgotten that pre—pandemic if you rang to try to get through to your gp to _ rang to try to get through to your gp to get — rang to try to get through to your gp to get an appointment, you wouldn't — gp to get an appointment, you wouldn't actually be seen for two to three _ wouldn't actually be seen for two to three weeks. so actually having a telephone — three weeks. so actually having a telephone appointment within 48 hours _ telephone appointment within 48 hours is — telephone appointment within 48 hours is actually a more efficient. the extra support for gps in england comes as waiting times in hospital a&e units have also been rising across the uk. the group which represents nhs trusts, is warning today of the most challenging winter yet for the health service. jim reed, bbc news. let's speak to our political correspondent, chris mason. morning, chris. on the one hand we have sajid javid saying very clearly he is on the side of the patients, he praises gps, he is on the side of the patients, saying they need to get face—to—face with the gps. then you hear from gps who say, why are we being painted as the bad guys? yes. being painted as the bad guys? yes, ood being painted as the bad guys? yes, good morning- _ being painted as the bad guys? yes, good morning. that _ being painted as the bad guys? yes, good morning. that is exactly the nature _ good morning. that is exactly the nature of— good morning. that is exactly the nature of the row that we have seen played _ nature of the row that we have seen played out _ nature of the row that we have seen played out this morning. your conversation with sajid javid in the last hour, — conversation with sajid javid in the last hour, rosemary leonard, the gp, making _ last hour, rosemary leonard, the gp, making the _ last hour, rosemary leonard, the gp, making the argument of this does feel like _ making the argument of this does feel like anti—gp rhetoric and feels some _ feel like anti—gp rhetoric and feels some conversations between patients and gps _ some conversations between patients and gps that infuriates doctors and tempts _ and gps that infuriates doctors and tempts some of them to leave the profession. i think what we have got today's— profession. i think what we have got today's the — profession. i think what we have got today's the health secretary, relatively new in post, distribute —— delivering something of a jab in the ribs— —— delivering something of a jab in the ribs to — —— delivering something of a jab in the ribs to doctors, saying you have to get _ the ribs to doctors, saying you have to get the _ the ribs to doctors, saying you have to get the numbers of people you are seeing _ to get the numbers of people you are seeing face—to—face up. it is nowhere _ seeing face—to—face up. it is nowhere near where it was pre—pandemic, where it was 80%. about _ pre—pandemic, where it was 80%. about 58% — pre—pandemic, where it was 80%. about 58% at the moment. that number has to— about 58% at the moment. that number has to he _ about 58% at the moment. that number has to be driven up with incentives, talk about— has to be driven up with incentives, talk about extra money, and league tables— talk about extra money, and league tables that would show up those areas. _ tables that would show up those areas, those gp surgeries which aren't— areas, those gp surgeries which aren't doing particularly well. here is the _ aren't doing particularly well. here is the health secretary writing in the daily— is the health secretary writing in the daily mail this morning. no surprise — the daily mail this morning. no surprise given there has been a campaign — surprise given there has been a campaign in the daily mail to try to improve _ campaign in the daily mail to try to improve these statistics as far as seeing _ improve these statistics as far as seeing gps face to face is concerned. but yes, the battle between — concerned. but yes, the battle between gps and the department of health _ between gps and the department of health are pretty ferocious, with gps not — health are pretty ferocious, with gps not happy at all.— health are pretty ferocious, with gps not happy at all. chris, thank ou. police in norway say five people have been killed — and two injured — by a man armed with a bow and arrow. some of the casualties were found in a supermarket in the town of kongsberg, south—west of oslo. a 37—year—old danish man is in custody. the norwegian prime minister described the attack as horrifying. translation: i want to underline that if it is terror-related, - we don't know if it was a political attack that has taken place, the police will have to investigate that. we know that in many countries over a longtime attacks have been prevented by good police work, but is that the issue of [one perpetrators is difficult. the chancellor rishi sunak has said british shoppers should be confident there will be enough presents on the shelves for christmas. speaking after a day of meetings with other world leaders in washington, mr sunak said the government is doing everything it can to keep supplies moving and that consumers should be reassured despite a log—jam of container ships at the uk's biggest commercial port in felixstowe. toy retailers have been warning there will be shortages. the queen will be in cardiff today, for herfirst visit to wales in five years. our correspondent tomos morgan is outside the senedd for us this morning. good morning. it looks like a glorious morning. what is going to happen today? 50. glorious morning. what is going to happen today?— glorious morning. what is going to happen today? so, when the queen arrives she will _ happen today? so, when the queen arrives she will be _ happen today? so, when the queen arrives she will be accompanied - happen today? so, when the queen arrives she will be accompanied by. arrives she will be accompanied by the prince — arrives she will be accompanied by the prince of wales and the duchess of cornwall. a procession of members will he _ of cornwall. a procession of members will he led _ of cornwall. a procession of members will be led by mace bearer shaz khan. _ will be led by mace bearer shaz khan. a — will be led by mace bearer shaz khan, a member of the security team. they will_ khan, a member of the security team. they will come around to the front of the _ they will come around to the front of the senate —— senedd to meet the queen _ of the senate —— senedd to meet the queen she — of the senate —— senedd to meet the queen. she will also meet schoolchildren. she will also meet the first _ schoolchildren. she will also meet the first minister, mark drakeford, and presiding officer elinjones. they— and presiding officer elinjones. they will— and presiding officer elinjones. they will then go into the chamber after some — they will then go into the chamber after some music from the armed forces— after some music from the armed forces and — after some music from the armed forces and a gun salute. within the chamber— forces and a gun salute. within the chamber then she will be graded for the first— chamber then she will be graded for the first time since the pandemic by all 60 _ the first time since the pandemic by all 60 members of the senedd. and for the _ all 60 members of the senedd. and for the first — all 60 members of the senedd. and for the first time since the pandemic started the first live performance by the welsh national 0paras— performance by the welsh national opera's youth opera and a song by the royat— opera's youth opera and a song by the royal harpist. they will be speeches by the queen, the first minister— speeches by the queen, the first minister and the presiding officer. and she _ minister and the presiding officer. and she will then sign a commemorative piece of parchment. the mace _ commemorative piece of parchment. the mace then which signifies the opening _ the mace then which signifies the opening of the senedd, they will be ptaced _ opening of the senedd, they will be ptaced in— opening of the senedd, they will be placed in the chamber. after that she will_ placed in the chamber. after that she will need some of the covid champions, members of communities in ways that _ champions, members of communities in ways that have gone out of their way to help _ ways that have gone out of their way to help other communities or put a smile _ to help other communities or put a smile on— to help other communities or put a smile on people's faces during the pandemic — smile on people's faces during the pandemic. the queen coming to cardiff— pandemic. the queen coming to cardiff to— pandemic. the queen coming to cardiff to open the sixth senedd session— cardiff to open the sixth senedd session today.— cardiff to open the sixth senedd session toda . :, ~ , :, , . robert webb has said he deeply regrets having to withdraw from strictly come dancing due to ill health. the actor, who had open heart surgery two years ago, said he thought he was fit enough to take part, but after learning and rehearsing three dances, it became clear he'd "bitten off more than he could chew". his professional dance partner dianne buswell said she feels lucky to call him a friend, and wished him a speedy recovery. not many works of art will treble in value if you put them through a shredding machine — but that's what's expected to happen to a banksy painting today. you may remember this moment from 2018, when the painting called girl with balloon dropped into a hidden shredder when it had just been sold for more than a million pounds. the work — now renamed love in a bin — is being auctioned at sotheby�*s today, where its expected to fetch well over £3.5 million. keep expensive works of art a long way away from shredders. ida. keep expensive works of art a long way away from shredders.- way away from shredders. no, the moral of the _ way away from shredders. no, the moral of the story _ way away from shredders. no, the moral of the story is _ way away from shredders. no, the moral of the story is put _ way away from shredders. no, the moral of the story is put it - way away from shredders. no, the moral of the story is put it in - way away from shredders. no, the moral of the story is put it in a - moral of the story is put it in a shredder and then it goes up by 3.5 times. 50 shredder and then it goes up by 3.5 times. , shredder and then it goes up by 3.5 times, , ., shredder and then it goes up by 3.5 times. , ., , , ., ., times. so put all expensive works of art throu u h times. so put all expensive works of art through a — times. so put all expensive works of art through a shredder? _ times. so put all expensive works of art through a shredder? well, - times. so put all expensive works of art through a shredder? well, it - art through a shredder? well, it worked there. _ art through a shredder? well, it worked there. it _ art through a shredder? well, it worked there. it was _ art through a shredder? well, it worked there. it was worth - art through a shredder? well, it worked there. it was worth a - art through a shredder? well, it - worked there. it was worth a million and now it is worth 3.5 million. to be honest, i don't think there was any moral to be had from what happened. itjust happened. happened. it 'ust happened. carol, what do you — happened. itjust happened. carol, what do you think? _ what do you think? i'm going to get on with the weather. good morning, everybody! this morning it is a foggy start for some of us. as you can see from this weather watchers pictures behind me taking in buckinghamshire, southern england is where we are seeing some patchy fog mike. it could take much of the morning to left. there is a lot of cloud around, limited to sunshine, although there are some pockets of sunshine. with the rain spreading south across scotland to the day with strong winds, exposure across the far north and the northern isles. behind this weather front we will see some hefty showers. some could be wintry on higher ground. it is going to turn cooler behind these weather front. but still comparatively mild as we push further south. through this evening and overnight there goes our weather front, evening and overnight there goes our weatherfront, weakening evening and overnight there goes our weather front, weakening all the time, but still bringing rain southwards. behind it, some clear skies. we are expecting some frost across parts of scotland, northern ireland and the far north of northern england. temperatures holding on under the cloud in the south of england and south wales as well as the midlands. this is where well as the midlands. this is where we start tomorrow with these cloud and spots of rain. still hanging on to the mild air, including the channel islands. behind that band of cloud, look at the sunshine. temperatures are slipping. after a cold start, with that for us, they will respond in the sun but they will respond in the sun but they will be lower than they have been for many. as we head into saturday, we have got a weather front coming in from the west with strengthening winds bringing in some rain, but milderfor all winds bringing in some rain, but milder for all except winds bringing in some rain, but milderfor all except for winds bringing in some rain, but milder for all except for the north of scotland. you will get the mild conditions thank you, carol. speak to you later. thanks for sorting out the arguments on the self as well. i call them debates rather than arguments. call them debates rather than arguments-— call them debates rather than aruments. ~ , ., :, arguments. while there is another ar ument arguments. while there is another argument to _ arguments. while there is another argument to be — arguments. while there is another argument to be had. _ arguments. while there is another argument to be had. 12 _ arguments. while there is another argument to be had. 12 minutes i argument to be had. 12 minutes assed argument to be had. 12 minutes passed out- _ argument to be had. 12 minutes passed out- is _ argument to be had. 12 minutes passed out. is that _ argument to be had. 12 minutes passed out. is that the - argument to be had. 12 minutes passed out. is that the actual. argument to be had. 12 minutes - passed out. is that the actual time? yes. : if you were watching breakfast on saturday, you might have seen three dads setting off on a gruelling walk from cumbria to norfolk. andy, mike and tim are raising funds for the suicide prevention charity, papyrus, because all three of them had daughters who took their own lives. we'll chat to them shortly. but first, here's alison freeman on how the challenge has been going so far. the idea started out as a few red lines drawn on an old map. but at the weekend of the idea became a reality. these three dads left more land in cumbria to start out on a 300 mile trek between their homes to raise money for and awareness of the help that is out there for young people contemplating suicide. tim, andy and mike would not have known each other if their daughters had not taken their own lives. andy, from cumbria, lost his daughter sophie, a nurse, just before christmas 2018. tim's daughter emily, who had struggled with autism, took her own life in march of last year. and mike's daughter, beth, diedjust of last year. and mike's daughter, beth, died just days after emily is lockdown took hold. these tragedies united the men, who decided they wanted to do what they could to stop other families going through the pain they have endured. having left andy's home on saturday, the men are passing through greater manchester to mike's home in sale. they then head towards norfolk, where they will finish in tim's home village. on the way they've met many people who have experienced suicide in theirfamilies. i who have experienced suicide in their families.— who have experienced suicide in their families. i recently lost my dauhter their families. i recently lost my daughter to _ their families. i recently lost my daughter to suicide. _ their families. i recently lost my daughter to suicide. and - their families. i recently lost my daughter to suicide. and i - their families. i recently lost my daughter to suicide. and i just i their families. i recently lost my i daughter to suicide. and ijust need to understand why. there's lots of unanswered questions which i would like to sort of help half answer, or maybe not answer. these like—minded people have all experienced this and we've had good chat about ourselves, and i think it has helped a lot. angela allen, who also lost a daughter and then her husband to suicide, alsojoined them daughter and then her husband to suicide, also joined them with daughter and then her husband to suicide, alsojoined them with her older daughter. == suicide, also joined them with her older daughter.— suicide, also joined them with her older daughter. -- other daughter. one of the — older daughter. -- other daughter. one of the things _ older daughter. -- other daughter. one of the things is _ older daughter. -- other daughter. one of the things is it _ older daughter. -- other daughter. one of the things is it makes - older daughter. -- other daughter. one of the things is it makes you i one of the things is it makes you realise _ one of the things is it makes you realise the — one of the things is it makes you realise the depth of humanity, how kind and _ realise the depth of humanity, how kind and thoughtful everybody is out of the _ kind and thoughtful everybody is out of the support that is there if you're — of the support that is there if you're willing to accept it and let it wash _ you're willing to accept it and let it wash over you. yeah, it is the only— it wash over you. yeah, it is the only way— it wash over you. yeah, it is the only way to _ it wash over you. yeah, it is the only way to keep moving forward, i think. _ only way to keep moving forward, i think, sometimes and channel your energles— think, sometimes and channel your energies into other people is a good way to— energies into other people is a good way to keep trudging on. last energies into other people is a good way to keep trudging on.— way to keep trudging on. last night ofthe way to keep trudging on. last night of the dads arrived _ way to keep trudging on. last night of the dads arrived in _ way to keep trudging on. last night of the dads arrived in salford, - way to keep trudging on. last night of the dads arrived in salford, a - of the dads arrived in salford, a third of the way through their challenge, to a warm welcome from friends and family. with their fundraising already passed a quarter of £1 million, the dads know they are making a difference. helping to provide support for those in despair, but hopefully stopping otherfamilies despair, but hopefully stopping other families experiencing the loss that they have. alison freeman, bbc news. they are all here now. they have occupied that end of the sofa. good morning. andy, tim and mike. lovely to see you. mike, tim and andy. lovely to see you. mike, tim and and . :, :, lovely to see you. mike, tim and and. :, ., , ., .,, andy. you are staying at your house last niht? andy. you are staying at your house last night? that's _ andy. you are staying at your house last night? that's right. _ andy. you are staying at your house last night? that's right. it _ andy. you are staying at your house last night? that's right. it is - andy. you are staying at your house last night? that's right. it is here i last night? that's right. it is here in manchester. _ last night? that's right. it is here in manchester. was _ last night? that's right. it is here in manchester. was he _ last night? that's right. it is here in manchester. was he a - last night? that's right. it is here in manchester. was he a good i in manchester. was he a good coaster? helen _ in manchester. was he a good coaster? helen was _ in manchester. was he a good coaster? helen was fantastic. | in manchester. was he a good i coaster? helen was fantastic. is in manchester. was he a good - coaster? helen was fantastic. is it like a sleepover? _ coaster? helen was fantastic. is it like a sleepover? yes. _ coaster? helen was fantastic. is it like a sleepover? yes. you - coaster? helen was fantastic. is it like a sleepover? yes. you are i like a sleepover? yes. you are visiting each — like a sleepover? yes. you are visiting each other's _ like a sleepover? yes. you are visiting each other's comes effectively and walking a long distance in between. where headed next? , :, �* , distance in between. where headed next? , :, �*, :, , , next? kings lane. tim's house. many stos next? kings lane. tim's house. many sto -s on next? kings lane. tim's house. many stops on the — next? kings lane. tim's house. many stops on the way _ next? kings lane. tim's house. many stops on the way but _ next? kings lane. tim's house. many stops on the way but kings _ next? kings lane. tim's house. many stops on the way but kings lane - next? kings lane. tim's house. many stops on the way but kings lane is i stops on the way but kings lane is the end _ stops on the way but kings lane is the end point. stops on the way but kings lane is the end point-— stops on the way but kings lane is the end oint. :, ,, , :, .,. the end point. have you been to each other's houses _ the end point. have you been to each other's houses before? _ the end point. have you been to each other's houses before? nobody - the end point. have you been to each other's houses before? nobody has i other's houses before? nobody has been to mind- _ other's houses before? nobody has been to mind. we _ other's houses before? nobody has been to mind. we might _ other's houses before? nobody has been to mind. we might ones - other's houses before? nobody has i been to mind. we might ones together before 'ust been to mind. we might ones together before just to — been to mind. we might ones together before just to get _ been to mind. we might ones together before just to get the _ been to mind. we might ones together before just to get the route. _ been to mind. we might ones together before just to get the route. and i before just to get the route. and that was— before just to get the route. and that was at mike's in early summer. and then _ that was at mike's in early summer. and then last friday, at yours. that was the _ and then last friday, at yours. that was the second time. so, and then last friday, at yours. that was the second time.— and then last friday, at yours. that was the second time. so, look, when an bod was the second time. so, look, when anybody runs — was the second time. so, look, when anybody runs a _ was the second time. so, look, when anybody runs a marathon, _ was the second time. so, look, when anybody runs a marathon, or- was the second time. so, look, when anybody runs a marathon, or goes i anybody runs a marathon, or goes training with friends, or goes to the gym with friends, you kind of have to get on. so if you are doing this walk and you only can admit a couple of times before, you didn't know if you are getting on, so the question is, are you getting on and what have you discovered about each other? when you talk to a crew on about and you say, who is the annoying one?— about and you say, who is the annoying one? about and you say, who is the anno in one? ~ :, , , :, , annoying one? who is the snorer, is what ou annoying one? who is the snorer, is what you are — annoying one? who is the snorer, is what you are trying _ annoying one? who is the snorer, is what you are trying to _ annoying one? who is the snorer, is what you are trying to say! - annoying one? who is the snorer, is what you are trying to say! who i annoying one? who is the snorer, is what you are trying to say! who is i what you are trying to say! who is the one lagging — what you are trying to say! who is the one lagging behind, _ what you are trying to say! who is the one lagging behind, with i what you are trying to say! who is the one lagging behind, with the. the one lagging behind, with the whining one?— the one lagging behind, with the whinin one? �* , ., :, whining one? we'll 'ust plod along and along quite — whining one? we'lljust plod along and along quite well. _ whining one? we'lljust plod along and along quite well. we - whining one? we'lljust plod along and along quite well. we have i whining one? we'lljust plod along and along quite well. we have got| whining one? we'lljust plod along i and along quite well. we have got so much _ and along quite well. we have got so much in _ and along quite well. we have got so much in common. it drives us forward _ much in common. it drives us forward. , :, : much in common. it drives us forward. , ., . :, , forward. there is a much overused -hrase forward. there is a much overused phrase which _ forward. there is a much overused phrase which is _ forward. there is a much overused phrase which is banter. _ forward. there is a much overused phrase which is banter. you i forward. there is a much overused| phrase which is banter. you clearly have a lot of banter. and that gets you through what you are doing right now. but there must be moments. there must be moments when you are philosophical. and who better, because the three of you have this extraordinary shared experience. just tell us a little bit about the load times and how you deal with them? we load times and how you deal with them? ~ :, :, load times and how you deal with them? :, :, . , them? we are part of the same club now, unfortunately, _ them? we are part of the same club now, unfortunately, we _ them? we are part of the same club now, unfortunately, we are - them? we are part of the same club now, unfortunately, we are three i now, unfortunately, we are three bereaved fathers. we lost our daughters. so we are in the same club. and i think because of that we do understand each other more. we never met before this. but we get on so well, honestly. we are so passionate about what we are doing. and we do get on. no points, of course there are no points. but we find ourselves laughing as well. —— low points. i'm hoping this will send a message of hope to other bereaved parents, loved ones. hagar bereaved parents, loved ones. how ou bereaved parents, loved ones. how you spoken. _ bereaved parents, loved ones. how you spoken, before you three had met, had you ever spoken to other dads? , :, , ., , met, had you ever spoken to other dads? , ., , ., , : dads? yes, to bereaved parents. we find that if you _ dads? yes, to bereaved parents. we find that if you are _ dads? yes, to bereaved parents. we find that if you are open _ dads? yes, to bereaved parents. we find that if you are open and - dads? yes, to bereaved parents. we find that if you are open and share i find that if you are open and share what _ find that if you are open and share what you _ find that if you are open and share what you have gone through, people find you _ what you have gone through, people find you and come and talk to you and share — find you and come and talk to you and share their experience which can be, its— and share their experience which can be, it's very— and share their experience which can be, it's very enlightening, but sometimes it feels like a privilege. they were — sometimes it feels like a privilege. they were things we filmed as we were _ they were things we filmed as we were coming along. people just came out to— were coming along. people just came out to walk— were coming along. people just came out to walk with us and share their stories— out to walk with us and share their stories about their children. so stories about their children. sc people stories about their children. people are stories about their children. sr people are walking with stories about their children. si people are walking with you? stories about their children. so i people are walking with you? oh, eah. yes people are walking with you? oh, yeah- yes and _ people are walking with you? oh, yeah. yes and they _ people are walking with you? oh, yeah. yes and they are _ people are walking with you? oh, yeah. yes and they are sharing i people are walking with you? oh, i yeah. yes and they are sharing quite -ersonal yeah. yes and they are sharing quite personal details _ yeah. yes and they are sharing quite personal details about _ yeah. yes and they are sharing quite personal details about themselves. l personal details about themselves. it is very— personal details about themselves. it is very humbling _ personal details about themselves. it is very humbling to _ personal details about themselves. it is very humbling to be _ personal details about themselves. it is very humbling to be alongsidel it is very humbling to be alongside them _ it is very humbling to be alongside them anything _ it is very humbling to be alongside them. anything can— it is very humbling to be alongside them. anything can be _ it is very humbling to be alongside them. anything can be said - it is very humbling to be alongside them. anything can be said to- it is very humbling to be alongside them. anything can be said to us. | it is very humbling to be alongside i them. anything can be said to us. so many— them. anything can be said to us. so many people — them. anything can be said to us. so many people are _ them. anything can be said to us. so many people are just _ them. anything can be said to us. so many people are just coming - them. anything can be said to us. so many people are just coming out. iti many people are just coming out. it is almost _ many people are just coming out. it is almost cathartic _ many people are just coming out. it is almost cathartic for _ many people are just coming out. it is almost cathartic for them. - many people are just coming out. it is almost cathartic for them. it i many people are just coming out. it is almost cathartic for them. it is i is almost cathartic for them. it is fantastic— is almost cathartic for them. it is fantastic to— is almost cathartic for them. it is fantastic to hear— is almost cathartic for them. it is fantastic to hear their— is almost cathartic for them. it is fantastic to hear their stories. i fantastic to hear their stories. sometimes. _ fantastic to hear their stories. sometimes, you _ fantastic to hear their stories. sometimes, you can - fantastic to hear their stories. sometimes, you can all- fantastic to hear their stories. sometimes, you can all tell. fantastic to hear their stories. i sometimes, you can all tell me, sometimes it can be the kindness of strangers that can get you most. i am sure you have spoken to loved ones, you have spoken to family a lot. anyone who has been through anything can now there can be a moment of time where someone just says something and that can be the thing. we says something and that can be the thin. ~ :, ., ., , says something and that can be the thin _ : ., ., ., , ., , thing. we have had so many others. in one of thing. we have had so many others. in one of them _ thing. we have had so many others. in one of them we _ thing. we have had so many others. in one of them we met _ thing. we have had so many others. in one of them we met somebody i thing. we have had so many others. i in one of them we met somebody who had lost _ in one of them we met somebody who had lost their daughter—in—law to suicide, — had lost their daughter—in—law to suicide, and then we met some of the other— suicide, and then we met some of the other family — suicide, and then we met some of the other family. and we just walked away— other family. and we just walked away from — other family. and we just walked away from that in floods of tears, all three — away from that in floods of tears, all three of— away from that in floods of tears, all three of us, as we were walking up all three of us, as we were walking up the _ all three of us, as we were walking up the hill — all three of us, as we were walking up the hill. they were so humbling. they were _ up the hill. they were so humbling. they were in — up the hill. they were so humbling. they were in such a dire place but they still— they were in such a dire place but they still came out to supporters. it they still came out to supporters. it was _ they still came out to supporters. it was incredible, incredibly emotional. powerfulas it was incredible, incredibly emotional. powerful as well. also, after ra -e emotional. powerful as well. also, after rape chester, _ emotional. powerful as well. also, after rape chester, we _ emotional. powerful as well. also, after rape chester, we get - emotional. powerful as well. also, after rape chester, we get e-mails after rape chester, we get e—mails and all sorts of things, somebody sent us this poem. don't read it out while we are walking. i'm going to read it out. don't read it out! he ratted out. we were walking down a little country lane. go and have a look on our website, and our blog. helen taylorfrom look on our website, and our blog. helen taylor from coventry wrote this poem which might write out as we walked along and we all ended up in a heap. it was fantastic. abs, we walked along and we all ended up in a heap. it was fantastic. do, let in a heap. it was fantastic. a lot of people _ in a heap. it was fantastic. a lot of people struggle _ in a heap. it was fantastic. a lot of people struggle to _ in a heap. it was fantastic. a lot of people struggle to know i in a heap. it was fantastic. a lot of people struggle to know how to talk to families who have lost people anyway, but i think particularly around suicide people find it very, very hard. what are your experiences? i know this is part of the point of what you are doing. you are here, you are talking about it. but i think a lot of people from the outside they don't know what to say.— people from the outside they don't know what to say. there is a massive sti n ma know what to say. there is a massive stigma that — know what to say. there is a massive stigma that surrounds _ know what to say. there is a massive stigma that surrounds suicide, i stigma that surrounds suicide, mental health. suicide is a very hard word. we need to promote open conversation about it. pre—and post suicide as well. a lot of people have come to us post suicide. and because of the stigma they feel unable to talk. it's not that they are ever going ? you're never going to recover, but i feel unable to talk. i5 to recover, but i feel unable to talk. , :, , , to recover, but i feel unable to talk. , ., , , :, to recover, but i feel unable to talk. , , :, , ., talk. is there a sense of shame? absolutely- _ talk. is there a sense of shame? absolutely. talking _ talk. is there a sense of shame? absolutely. talking is _ talk. is there a sense of shame? absolutely. talking is going i talk. is there a sense of shame? absolutely. talking is going to i absolutely. talking is going to solve that. absolutely. talking is going to solve that-— absolutely. talking is going to solve that. : , ~ , :, solve that. and people like us going this is acceptable. _ solve that. and people like us going this is acceptable. it _ solve that. and people like us going this is acceptable. it is _ solve that. and people like us going this is acceptable. it is the - this is acceptable. it is the biggest _ this is acceptable. it is the biggest killer of young people out there _ biggest killer of young people out there. 200 schoolchildren every year die by— there. 200 schoolchildren every year die by suicide. that horrendous. all those _ die by suicide. that horrendous. all those families out there and friends, _ those families out there and friends, so many people affected by suicide, _ friends, so many people affected by suicide, and people have to talk about— suicide, and people have to talk about it — suicide, and people have to talk about it. we suicide, and people have to talk about it. ~ :, , :, ,y , about it. we only found papyrus after the event. _ about it. we only found papyrus after the event. -- _ about it. we only found papyrus after the event. -- now. - about it. we only found papyrus after the event. -- now. the i about it. we only found papyrus l after the event. -- now. the first after the event. —— now. the first thing that i noticed that they were promoting was the fact that suicide is the biggest killer of under 35 is in the uk. it is the most in your stinging young people's lives, themselves. and there is nothing done to instruct or train, orjust talk to young people about what the danger is. talk to young people about what the daner is. ~ ,, talk to young people about what the daner is. ~ :, talk to young people about what the daner is. ~ ,, :, ., danger is. when you sat on the sofa, when we were _ danger is. when you sat on the sofa, when we were looking _ danger is. when you sat on the sofa, when we were looking at _ danger is. when you sat on the sofa, when we were looking at the - danger is. when you sat on the sofa, when we were looking at the report | when we were looking at the report before and you were sitting down, you will kind of said, it's overwhelming. i can't believe we are here. you only set out to raise £3000 each. and you are back on the sofa, you are talking to us now. i mean, you just must feel fantastic. let's have a look and see where you are at now. £256,801. i think it's fair to say you smashed your target, it is 856% better than the target. it is notjust about it is 856% better than the target. it is not just about the it is 856% better than the target. it is notjust about the money. it is about the profile. as they surprised you? it must spur you one as you are walking.— surprised you? it must spur you one as you are walking. when we set out the main aim — as you are walking. when we set out the main aim was _ as you are walking. when we set out the main aim was to _ as you are walking. when we set out the main aim was to raise _ as you are walking. when we set out the main aim was to raise the - the main aim was to raise the profile, — the main aim was to raise the profile, to _ the main aim was to raise the profile, to raise the profile of suicide — profile, to raise the profile of suicide awareness. and see if we can .et suicide awareness. and see if we can get young _ suicide awareness. and see if we can get young people to phone into the papyrus _ get young people to phone into the papyrus helpline, to break that chain _ papyrus helpline, to break that chain and — papyrus helpline, to break that chain and have that as a secondary by-producti — chain and have that as a secondary by—product, the money, is incredible. so many of the councillors on the end of the line will be _ councillors on the end of the line will be helped. i councillors on the end of the line will be helped.— will be helped. i think so many --eole will be helped. i think so many people don't — will be helped. i think so many people don't know _ will be helped. i think so many people don't know how- will be helped. i think so many people don't know how to i will be helped. i think so many| people don't know how to reach will be helped. i think so many- people don't know how to reach out and the helpline is the place where they can reach out. i’m and the helpline is the place where they can reach out.— they can reach out. i'm not sure that we have — they can reach out. i'm not sure that we have said _ they can reach out. i'm not sure that we have said the _ they can reach out. i'm not sure that we have said the names i they can reach out. i'm not sure that we have said the names of| they can reach out. i'm not sure i that we have said the names of your beloved daughters out loud yet. so it is sophie, beth and emily. that’s it is sophie, beth and emily. that's correct. there _ it is sophie, beth and emily. that's correct. there is _ it is sophie, beth and emily. that's correct. there is always _ it is sophie, beth and emily. that's correct. there is always so - it is sophie, beth and emily. that's correct. there is always so much i correct. there is always so much mixed emotion. _ correct. there is always so much mixed emotion. what _ correct. there is always so much mixed emotion. what would i correct. there is always so much mixed emotion. what would all. correct. there is always so much i mixed emotion. what would all three of them have made of your appearance and bbc breakfast in your shorts? my eye is drawn out thank you!— eye is drawn out thank you! sophie would have — eye is drawn out thank you! sophie would have taken _ eye is drawn out thank you! sophie would have taken the _ eye is drawn out thank you! sophie would have taken the mekki - eye is drawn out thank you! sophie would have taken the mekki out i eye is drawn out thank you! sophie would have taken the mekki out of| eye is drawn out thank you! sophie i would have taken the mekki out of me relentlessly. absolutely relentlessly. absolutely relentlessly. i have got a brother who will do that anyway. he will make sure i get both barrels when i get out of here. beth make sure i get both barrels when i get out of here.— make sure i get both barrels when i get out of here. beth and emily were teenaers. get out of here. beth and emily were teenagers. naturally _ get out of here. beth and emily were teenagers. naturally embarrassed i get out of here. beth and emily werej teenagers. naturally embarrassed by their dads anyway. we teenagers. naturally embarrassed by their dads anyway.— their dads anyway. we are 'ust not cool ooos. — their dads anyway. we are 'ust not cool dads. we i their dads anyway. we are 'ust not cool dads. we are i their dads anyway. we are 'ust not cool dads. we are just i their dads anyway. we are just not cool dads. we are just dads. i their dads anyway. we are just not| cool dads. we are just dads. that's cool dads. we are 'ust dads. that's all. we cool dads. we are 'ust dads. that's an. we _ cool dads. we are 'ust dads. that's all. we are not i cool dads. we are just dads. that's all. we are not cool _ cool dads. we are just dads. that's all. we are not cool dads. - but we loved our daughters dearly and we _ but we loved our daughters dearly and we don't — but we loved our daughters dearly and we don't want _ but we loved our daughters dearly and we don't want other— but we loved our daughters dearly and we don't want other dads, i but we loved our daughters dearly. and we don't want other dads, other families— and we don't want other dads, other families to _ and we don't want other dads, other families to go — and we don't want other dads, other families to go through _ and we don't want other dads, other families to go through what - and we don't want other dads, other families to go through what we i and we don't want other dads, other families to go through what we have .one families to go through what we have gone through — families to go through what we have gone through lt— families to go through what we have gone through. [it is _ families to go through what we have gone through-— gone through. it is a fantastic message- _ gone through. it is a fantastic message. who _ gone through. it is a fantastic message. who is _ gone through. it is a fantastic message. who is in _ gone through. it is a fantastic message. who is in charge i gone through. it is a fantastic message. who is in charge ofj gone through. it is a fantastic i message. who is in charge of the sandwiches?— message. who is in charge of the sandwiches? ., , ., , ., , sandwiches? lots of those strangers ou have sandwiches? lots of those strangers you have spoken _ sandwiches? lots of those strangers you have spoken about _ sandwiches? lots of those strangers you have spoken about before, - sandwiches? lots of those strangers you have spoken about before, so i you have spoken about before, so many _ you have spoken about before, so many people feeding us en route. we are putting _ many people feeding us en route. we are putting on weight. don't bring anything! — are putting on weight. don't bring anything! no more food. we are putting on weight. don't bring anything! no more food.- are putting on weight. don't bring anything! no more food. we are fine at the moment. _ anything! no more food. we are fine at the moment. honestly, _ anything! no more food. we are fine at the moment. honestly, we - anything! no more food. we are fine at the moment. honestly, we have l at the moment. honestly, we have been... the food has been amazing. you can only eat so much. what time do you set off? before this. we have delayed you. sorry. you can go now. we will nature carol keeps an eye the weather. thank you all so much. and good luck. time now to get the news, travel and weather where you are. good morning. i'm sonja jessup. bbc news has learned that an investigation has been launched into organised abuse at a special school in walthamstow. the local authority and police were called in to whitefield school after cctv footage was found of pupils being physically assaulted and neglected. the school says it has new leadership and practices in place. thames water's performance has been 'unacceptable�*— those are the words of the company's chief executive. sarah bentley's been questioned by a committee of mps about their impact on river quality. she said customers find it difficult to contact them, and infrastructure needs improving. but says they're investing billions of pounds. we've put in a really root and branch turnaround plan and changed the executive team. i've got the support of the new shareholders, who have not taken a dividend in four years, and we are absolutely convicted, but the proof will be in the pudding. detectives say they're following a number of leads to try to discover the motive behind the murder of a student in twickenham on tuesday. 18—year—old hazrat wali was attacked on a playing field. he's the 25th teenager to be killed in london this year. people living in an east london tower block say they're suffering with leaks, vermin and the building's in disrepair. it's called charles dickens house, and some residents have likened their conditions to living in the victorian era. from work, you need to come back to a very comfortable home, and at the moment i don't have a comfortable home. ijust come home and sometimes i feel stressed as well, because i'm not having good sleep and it's really affecting my health. the social landlord, thch, says it's sorry and is working hard to resolve issues. now you might remember last month we met two of the new gentoo penguins at the london aquarium, named raducanu and gilbert. that's gilbert after professor dame sarah gilbert, who co—developed the oxford astrazeneca covid vaccine. yesterday, they came face to face. let's take a look at the travel now. both the circle line and the metropolitan lines have minor delays at the moment— it�*s after some trains were cancelled. time for the weather. here's sara thornton. good morning to you. not quite as chilly a start across london and the south—east as yesterday morning, where we saw temperatures in low to mid—single figures. we are in high single figures and low double figures this morning, and we have some mist and murkiness around to start us off. it's cloudy through the day, but generally dry, and we will see breaks in the cloud at times. you can see it thinning and breaking here and there as the day wears on. in the best of it, not a bad day at all. 16 or 17 degrees celsius. let's watch what happens through the night tonight. and we have a few weak fronts skirting around us. one of them comes in overnight tonight, on a freshening wind with a bit of cloud and maybe the odd spot of rain. into tomorrow morning, the temperatures holding up into low double figures. the day itself tomorrow, yes, some cloud and a bit of patchy drizzle across, but there will be sunshine at times and temperatures a little bit cooler than they have been in the coming days. dry and settled through the weekend. rain next week. i'm back in half an hour. plenty more on our website. now, i'll hand you back to charlie and naga. bye for now. hello, this is breakfast with charlie stayt and naga munchetty. adam fleming doesn't live in a box in westminster, he has actual legs and arms. l’m in westminster, he has actual legs and arms. �* , ., ., and arms. i'm small in real life. television _ and arms. i'm small in real life. television makes _ and arms. i'm small in real life. television makes it _ and arms. i'm small in real life. television makes it look- and arms. i'm small in real life. television makes it look huge, l and arms. i'm small in real life. i television makes it look huge, and i'm only five foot ten rather than the six foot i look. welcome. why are you with us? in the six foot i look. welcome. why are you with us?— are you with us? in my other 'ob presenting fl are you with us? in my other 'ob presenting the d are you with us? in my other 'ob presenting the newscast �* are you with us? in my other 'ob presenting the newscast podh are you with us? in my otherjob l presenting the newscast pod cast, are you with us? in my otherjob . presenting the newscast pod cast, i went to kensington palace to speak to the duke of cambridge because he is launching the new prize where he will award £1,000,000 every yearfor the next decade to the five best ideas for cleaning the air, cleaning the water and restoring nature and preventing climate change and reducing the amount of waste we use and he wanted to have a big, long chat about it with the pod cast, and he picked newscast. did chat about it with the pod cast, and he picked newscast.— he picked newscast. did he ask to sneak he picked newscast. did he ask to s . eak to he picked newscast. did he ask to speak to you? _ he picked newscast. did he ask to speak to you? i — he picked newscast. did he ask to speak to you? i think _ he picked newscast. did he ask to speak to you? i think the - he picked newscast. did he ask to speak to you? i think the feeling i speak to you? i think the feeling was mutual- _ speak to you? i think the feeling was mutual. you _ speak to you? i think the feeling was mutual. you can _ speak to you? i think the feeling was mutual. you can see, - speak to you? i think the feeling was mutual. you can see, the i speak to you? i think the feeling i was mutual. you can see, the pod cast will come out at lunchtime but it is making headlines that they already because he made some comments about space tourism and space exploration, and he didn't name any one or talk about captain kirk orjeff bezos, he just talked about the planet's priorities and he thinks rather than spending lots of time and resources on going to add to space we should be looking at the problems on earth with nature and climate change and he has been inspired by the moonshot, thejfk thing of sending a man to the moon but he is inspired by the technology created that help solve other problems rather than focusing on space tourism. we problems rather than focusing on space tourism.— problems rather than focusing on space tourism. we will see a little bit now. space tourism. we will see a little bit now- so _ space tourism. we will see a little bit now. so set _ space tourism. we will see a little bit now. so set the _ space tourism. we will see a little bit now. so set the scene - space tourism. we will see a little bit now. so set the scene for - space tourism. we will see a little bit now. so set the scene for us. i bit now. so set the scene for us. you are in kensington palace. yes, kensington palace. fie, you are in kensington palace. yes, kensington palace.— kensington palace. a couple of comfortable — kensington palace. a couple of comfortable chairs. _ kensington palace. a couple of comfortable chairs. all - kensington palace. a couple of comfortable chairs. all sorts i kensington palace. a couple of comfortable chairs. all sorts of royal knick—knacks around the room which will see including a weird little dog ornament and as a part of the podcast we watched the tv show he made with david attenborough so it has a sofa vibe. the positivity around the debate has been there, and it's been very negative and it's such a large issue that everyone feels completely overwhelmed by the facts, the scale of the problems and things like that. we wa nted we wanted to create energy and positive et wards solving the problems and for me it has formulated and cemented itself a bit in my mind, in namibia, about three years ago. i love community conservation and namibia had been world leaders in community conversation 7 conversation 7 conservation, and for those who don't know what it is, it is the locals taking the interest and management of the wildlife and nature and the environmental assets around them, so they very much manage them and nurtured them for their own prosperity and for me, i met loads of good people there and i felt really inspired and energised by what i had seen, but coming back to the uk and seeing the headlines around the world and the media who like to concentrate on the negativity, and ifelt that like to concentrate on the negativity, and i felt that you are losing people every time you have those headlines. we get that there is an urgent message and i'm not saying we shouldn't talk about the urgency or the bigger issues, but ultimately if we want to tackle this and get on the front foot, we have to bring people with us and people have to feel that there is a chance we can fix this and it's about providing a solution to some of the worlds biggest environmental problems. it worlds biggest environmental nroblems. , ., , ., problems. it is called earthshot, and when you — problems. it is called earthshot, and when you hear— problems. it is called earthshot, and when you hear that, - problems. it is called earthshot, and when you hear that, you - problems. it is called earthshot, i and when you hear that, you think problems. it is called earthshot, - and when you hear that, you think of the moonshot and jfk. the and when you hear that, you think of the moonshot and jfk._ the moonshot and jfk. the original genesis of this _ the moonshot and jfk. the original genesis of this is _ the moonshot and jfk. the original genesis of this is to _ the moonshot and jfk. the original genesis of this is to capture - the moonshot and jfk. the original genesis of this is to capture the i genesis of this is to capture the ingenuity and problem solving and ambition of the moonshot, so best on the eye dear to get a man on the moon all those years ago, and all the technology and advancements that came with getting a man on the moon, like cat scanners, and all that sort of stuff, we are trying to galvanise and push solutions going forwards and push solutions going forwards and for me particularly, the idea that the space race is on and everybody getting space tourism going, it's the idea that we need some of the greatest brains and minds fixated on trying to fix this planet rather than finding a new place to live, and that ultimately is what sold it for me because that is what sold it for me because that is crucial and we need to focus on this rather than giving up and heading into space to try and think of solutions for the future.- of solutions for the future. having said that, would _ of solutions for the future. having said that, would you _ of solutions for the future. having said that, would you like - of solutions for the future. having said that, would you like to - of solutions for the future. having said that, would you like to be - of solutions for the future. having said that, would you like to be a l said that, would you like to be a space tourist one day? do said that, would you like to be a space tourist one day?— said that, would you like to be a space tourist one day? do you know what? i have _ space tourist one day? do you know what? i have no _ space tourist one day? do you know what? i have no interest _ space tourist one day? do you know what? i have no interest in - space tourist one day? do you know what? i have no interest in going i what? i have no interest in going that high. i'm a pilot and i still stay reasonably close to the ground and i've been up to 60,000 feet once in a plane and that was terrifying. do you go weightless? alejos it goes black and you can see the cover of the earth. i dread to think what is the earth. i dread to think what is the carbon footprint of a rocket going into space for ten minutes. that is also fundamental question. we are always in this debate talking about what it means for our kids. i don't have kids, have kids. what do you say to your children about this? they are living and growing up in a world where it is much more talked about than when we were growing up, so it has benefits and negatives as well because we are seeing a rise in climate anxiety and we have young people growing up where the future is threatened all the time and it's very unnerving and anxiety making. you have to worry about a job, family life, housing, all of these things and you are putting in the climate that we live and breathe and walk around in on top of that, so no wonder we are having mental health concerns and challenges coming along. i also believe the younger generation are going to lead this and dominate this. they cannot not. and wherever we go and speak to young people they are very concerned about the environment. children love being outdoors and getting muddy and playing and chasing and playing sport and all that and they have a true appreciation of what we are going to miss and what we are letting down then maybe the adults, and that is where the disconnect is happening, that those adults in positions of responsibility are not channelling the inner child to remind themselves and remember how much it meant to be outdoors, and we are robbing those future generations of the outdoor childhood. i are robbing those future generations of the outdoor childhood.— of the outdoor childhood. i suppose auoin on of the outdoor childhood. i suppose going on the _ of the outdoor childhood. i suppose going on the other _ of the outdoor childhood. i suppose going on the other direction, - of the outdoor childhood. i suppose going on the other direction, your. going on the other direction, your dad has been worried about this stuff for a very long time and actually people used to sort of take the mickey out of him a bit for it. it's been a hard road for him. my grandfather starting up helping out the wwf a long time ago with its nature work and biodiversity and i think my father has progressed that argument and talked about climate change a lot more, very early on before anyone else thought it was a topic, so yes, he's had a really rough ride on that and i think he's been proven to be well ahead of the curve, well beyond his time in warning about some of these dangers. but it shouldn't be that there is a third generation coming along having to ramp it even more. for me, it would be an absolute disaster if george is sat here talking to you or your successor, adam, in 30 years' time or whatever, still saying the same thing, because by then it will be too late. if we're not careful, we are robbing from our children's future in what we do now, and i think that's not fair, so i'm trying to use my little bit of influence and little bit of profile to highlight some incredible people doing amazing things, and will genuinely help fix some of these problems. i know you spoke about a lot of important things but you brought up the dog ornament, and it was weird, but how did kensington palace feel about you going and plonking to newscast mugs on the furniture question that they were happy because there are some big listeners. i because there are some big listeners-_ because there are some big listeners. ., �* ., ., ., listeners. i don't want to name names. listeners. i don't want to name names- i _ listeners. i don't want to name names. i don't _ listeners. i don't want to name names. i don't think _ listeners. i don't want to name names. i don't think it's - listeners. i don't want to name | names. i don't think it's william and catherine, but i know some of his team do. i know you will be going to cop26, and i will be there doing the podcast and prince william will be there and take some of the winners of the earthshot prize announced this weekend because he wants to inspire the world leaders to sign up to some good climate change targets, but also may be guilt trip them a bit and say, are there enough practical things being deployed to solve the problems. haifa deployed to solve the problems. how do ou deployed to solve the problems. how do you think — deployed to solve the problems. how do you think somebody like prince william tries, successfully or not, avoid being one of them, ie and important, privileged person telling other people what to do, because he is quite carefully putting himself on the side of people, but there is a risk that he lives a privileged life and people say, it's all very well you telling other space but we have to buy our food which may or may not come from the right place. there is always that balance. that is wh in there is always that balance. that is why in the _ there is always that balance. that is why in the interview _ there is always that balance. twat is why in the interview he was stressing the idea of young people suffering from climate anxiety, and he said, if you're a young person now and you're worried about your family or yourjob or your home, your bills, and now you are worried about the state of the planet as well, he said that is why there is a responsibility for people with resources and power to do something about it, and at one point he was talking about people looking at the billions of pounds and dollars spent on the covid pandemic and wonder if we should spend the same amount on climate change and restoring nature, and he talked about things like the furlough scheme. that is a government policy and you don't often hear royals talking about specific government policy so he's being quite brave here. he also thinks he has legitimacy on this because this is about what past generations give to future generations. remind you of any institutions we are talking about at the moment?— the moment? yes, it's really interesting. _ the moment? yes, it's really interesting. and _ the moment? yes, it's really interesting. and in _ the moment? yes, it's really interesting. and in terms - the moment? yes, it's really interesting. and in terms of| the moment? yes, it's really - interesting. and in terms of what his involvement will be at cop26, that he might go there and shake a few feathers, frankly. he is that he might go there and shake a few feathers, frankly.— few feathers, frankly. he is not a hue fan few feathers, frankly. he is not a huge fan of _ few feathers, frankly. he is not a huge fan of the _ few feathers, frankly. he is not a huge fan of the jargon _ few feathers, frankly. he is not a huge fan of the jargon and - few feathers, frankly. he is not a huge fan of the jargon and the i few feathers, frankly. he is not a i huge fan of the jargon and the horse trading and the big long documents that go around cop26 and it's something i'm getting into after the brexit process which is why he is focusing on eye—catching solutions, cool technology, apps, interesting people doing interesting thing in the world rather than boring documents. he the world rather than boring documents.— the world rather than boring documents. , , ., documents. he is focusing on young n-eole and documents. he is focusing on young people and there — documents. he is focusing on young people and there is _ documents. he is focusing on young people and there is a _ documents. he is focusing on young people and there is a presentation i people and there is a presentation by young people at cop26. there was a outh by young people at cop26. there was a youth pre- — by young people at cop26. there was a youth pre- cop26 _ by young people at cop26. there was a youth pre- cop26 in _ by young people at cop26. there was a youth pre- cop26 in the _ by young people at cop26. there was a youth pre- cop26 in the land - by young people at cop26. there was a youth pre- cop26 in the land where a youth pre— cop26 in the land where lots of young people from around the world where young people came together and there will be a lot of young people there as well, and a lot of celebrities. i'm hearing all sorts of names. apparently barack 0bama might turn up, lewis hamilton might have an electric formula one car, and there are so many rumours about it because none of us quite know what it is going to be like. and you are going to be there. yes. the podcast — and you are going to be there. yes. the podcast is _ and you are going to be there. yes. the podcast is out _ and you are going to be there. yes. the podcast is out at _ and you 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question time tonight. 1135. and you can catch it on the iplayer. and the earthshot prize awards ceremony will be broadcast on bbc one and iplayer at 8pm this sunday. we are talking about a bit of a dynasty, a dynasty in football. to have one professional footballer in the family is impressive. to repeat that feat over three generations is something else entirely. the former england and arsenal striker ian wright, his son shaun wright—phillips and grandson d'margio wright—phillips — who plays for stoke under—23s — have done just that. they've also made a short film called "three generations: football, family, and black excellence" — which reflects on how the game has nesta mcgregor went to meet them. it's one of the things that i worry about most in my life at the moment, is d'margio and how he's getting on. it's nice, man, we're going up to stoke. the pressure of a grandad, a dad, an uncle all playing in the premier league, dad, granddad won the premier league, and now people are looking at him seeing what is happening with him. there is a ball. bang, bang! 0h! the chances of being a professional footballer are less than 1%. so for three generations to have done it is remarkable. have you watched grainy footage... he's through here. it's wright for arsenal. and it's a goal for arsenal. ian wright yet again. ..less grainy footage of these guys? have you learnt anything from them? is there any bits of your game that resemble? i watched a couple of highlights and stuff, and obviously my dad's football clips showing my games. obviously i can't play striker yet, but i'll sometimes see them. d'margio is like similar to shaun. he is more laid—back than me. he's much more laid—back. is he quicker? no chance! i think he's quicker. he's quicker than me now! no, no, i'm quicker, man. not now, just sitting here, of course he is. he asked to race me one time when i was still- doing a bit in america. and he waited until i got... he waited until i got - old and he said, all right, i will race you know and we can film it! i left foot. here it is. there's no power. all that you've achieved, ian, three generations of footballers, where does that rank? that's it, mate. that is it, nesta. in respects of, if i'm thinking of myself as an eight—year—old wanting to play football, then finally get through with the journey that i had to actually finally get through, coming off an estate and everything, to know that i would be sitting here with my son and my grandson, it's quite mind blowing stuff because it's not really... i can't stop smiling at d'margio doing his stuff. do you know what i mean? all the nerves come back now. i have to worry about him now. but other than that it's an amazing leg, feeling for me. euro 2020 final, rashford, sancho and saka, was that different for you to watch then, being a parent and a black footballer? i had a different nervousness than any white english fans. because i know for a fact that if they miss it's going to be a problem. so, that is the sad situation about it. with everything what that team does, what that england team represents, what that manager, that brilliant manager and the way he is so consciously aware of everything that's going on, we all knew what was coming, and that was pretty sad. that was a sad situation for me. you've probably all experienced it. is it something you have sat down as a family and spoken about, and advised how to do with it if it happens and what to do? we are sitting here. i've been through it. shaun has been through it. d'margio, if we are going to be really honest about stuff, he will probably go through it, if we are going to be totally honest, and we are being honest with each other. but when you speak to d'margio about his friends and his team—mates now, they all know how to deal with it. they've got support. i didn't have support. shaun didn't have support. do you feel that empowered now by what's happening? |yes, i know i'm going to get my support, whether it is my choice or the manager's choice. so, yeah. that is the great thing about it. now it is kind of putting the players' perspective. if they feel uncomfortable with one of their players being racially abused, they can walk off the pitch. back in our day if we had done then we most probably would not have played. we didn't know how it would have turned out. none of us wanted to lose that position. when you look down the years what you will see is that black players getting racially abused and everybodyjust getting on with it. i have been racially abused. you go in to a dressing room and you are like, just score a goal and it will be all right. in respect of a white person not standing up for you like that, that is how it is going to be eradicated. d'margio, who is your sporting hero? my dad, yeah, my dad. because he has obviously always i looked after me and always told me what is right and wrong and guided me through football as a young kid. and he always told me to enjoy it. that is why i am here today. the person that i did look up to in my position as a winger, one of them, was paul mersonjust because of the way he played. heroes in general would be people like dad and andy cole. cyrille regis, no doubt about it. we could see a physical representation of ourselves at a time when you didn't think it was going to happen. shaun being able to have someone like paul merson, who, when i went into the arsenal dressing room, was one of the best players i thought i'd ever seen. i love the fact it is a white player because he doesn't have to worry about the fact there is no black representation. do you feel any of that pressure? do you have a different game? if none of them are in the i don't really feel pressure because i look at it - as my grandad and my dad. i'v e i've said it before and that report was really interesting, but ijust don't see ian wright as a grandad. i just don't. and when shaun wright phillips says he is old and he's upset that his son beats and when they go for a race, he's 39. that is quite a sporting dynasty, three generations. quite a sporting dynasty, three generations-— quite a sporting dynasty, three uenerations. : , , generations. and competitive. they are 'ust as generations. and competitive. they are just as competitive. _ generations. and competitive. they are just as competitive. it _ generations. and competitive. they are just as competitive. it doesn't l are just as competitive. it doesn't matter if they are retired or not. not like here. nesta mcgregor with that report. here's carol with a look at the weather. good morning to both of you too. look at this weather watches picture of saint clement injersey and doesn't make you want to go to the beach? a lovely start here but it's not the same everywhere and across southern england and the south—west we still have some fog and some of that will be with us for much of morning and there is a lot of cloud around today and sunshine will be in limited supply as well as that, we have a weather front coming in across the north of scotland and that will have heavy rain and one look at the isobars tell you it will be windy across the north of the country today, particularly the far north of mainland scotland and the northern isles where we could see gales. here comes the rain, slipping south, getting into southern scotland and northern ireland by the end of the afternoon and behind it we will see hefty showers and some of those could well be wintry on higher ground, and don't forget the gusty wind. for northern ireland, mostly dry and the rain coming into the north and for northern england the north and for northern england the odd spot coming into with thicker cloud but dry at this stage and a lot of dry weather for the rest of england and wales with some sunshine coming through here and there. it's not a blanket of cloud, but the emphasis will be on cloud rather than sunshine today. the temperatures ahead of the weather front are still in the mild air, so maybe 17 or 18 but behind the weather front things start to cool down and as we head through the course of the evening and overnight and the weather front continues the descent southwards, taking the cloud and rain with it, pressure conditions follow behind and it will be a cold night across parts of scotland and northern england and northern ireland and in places we will see some frost and as we come further south under the cloud and rain, it's going to be comparatively milder. tomorrow we will start with this cloud in spots of rain and it will linger across southern areas and get into the channel islands, but look behind it. a lot of dry weather and a lot of sunshine. there will be cloud at times across the north and west but away from the south, where we have the cloud, temperatures will remain on the mild side and behind that it will be cooler than it has been for a wee while. into saturday we will start with frost across parts of scotland and northern england and possibly east anglia and then we have cloud thickening up in places with the odd shower before the next weather front comes our way. that will bring us and rain and the timing has changed from yesterday. yesterday we thought it would move faster but today we think it's a bit slower so if you have outdoor plans on saturday or sunday, watch the weather forecast. we are expected to travel across scotland during the course of sunday and after a mild day for most except the north—east, on sunday we will see the north—east and join the rest of the uk with the milder conditions, and a lot of dry weather for a bit of sunshine and variable amounts of cloud. but next week it it is looking a bit more unsettled. were you going to ask carroll the same question? what are the flows like in the channel at the moment? the flows? you mean the waves? what do you mean? i don't know. i've not had a look. there is not much wind, so shouldn't be too big. 50 if had a look. there is not much wind, so shouldn't be too big.— so shouldn't be too big. so if you are auoin so shouldn't be too big. so if you are going to _ so shouldn't be too big. so if you are going to swim _ so shouldn't be too big. so if you are going to swim the _ so shouldn't be too big. so if you are going to swim the channel i so shouldn't be too big. so if you i are going to swim the channel now, would it be good conditions to do it? it would it be good conditions to do it? , ., , ., would it be good conditions to do it? , ., , it? it will be quite a pleasant day, es. it? it will be quite a pleasant day, yes- there — it? it will be quite a pleasant day, yes. there will _ it? it will be quite a pleasant day, yes. there will be _ it? it will be quite a pleasant day, yes. there will be some _ it? it will be quite a pleasant day, yes. there will be some sunshine | it? it will be quite a pleasant day, i yes. there will be some sunshine but i can tell you now that that will never happen. i can tell you now that that will never happen-— i can tell you now that that will never happen. i can tell you now that that will never ha- nen. :, :, ,, ~' never happen. chloe, would you like to nick u- never happen. chloe, would you like to pick up on — never happen. chloe, would you like to pick up on this? _ never happen. chloe, would you like to pick up on this? clubby _ never happen. chloe, would you like to pick up on this? clubby mccardell to pick up on this? clubby mccardel is here with us, the record—breaking swim of the channel. a bit of training, she could do it? 7 chloe mccardel. i training, she could do it? ? chloe mccardel. .. training, she could do it? ? chloe mccardel. ~ _, , :, mccardel. i think we could get you in a relay with _ mccardel. i think we could get you in a relay with 12 _ mccardel. i think we could get you in a relay with 12 months - mccardel. i think we could get you in a relay with 12 months of - in a relay with 12 months of training _ in a relay with 12 months of training and we could get you in a team _ training and we could get you in a team of— training and we could get you in a team of six — training and we could get you in a team of six. it training and we could get you in a team of six— training and we could get you in a team of six. it might take 12 years to do it. team of six. it might take 12 years to do it- not _ team of six. it might take 12 years to do it. not at _ team of six. it might take 12 years to do it. not at all— team of six. it might take 12 years to do it. not at all because - team of six. it might take 12 years to do it. not at all because you i team of six. it might take 12 years| to do it. not at all because you did the couch to _ to do it. not at all because you did the couch to five _ to do it. not at all because you did the couch to five k, _ to do it. not at all because you did the couch to five k, so _ to do it. not at all because you did the couch to five k, so you - to do it. not at all because you did the couch to five k, so you start i the couch to five k, so you start slow and build it up. chloe is offering. your next challenge is sorting. offering. your next challenge is sortina. �* :, :, offering. your next challenge is sortina. :, :, :, offering. your next challenge is sortina. �* :, :, :, :, , sorting. i've got to go to the news channel, sorting. i've got to go to the news channel. but _ sorting. i've got to go to the news channel, but it's _ sorting. i've got to go to the news channel, but it's been _ sorting. i've got to go to the news channel, but it's been very - sorting. i've got to go to the news channel, but it's been very nice i channel, but it's been very nice talking to you all.— channel, but it's been very nice talking to you all. thank you, and chloe, talking to you all. thank you, and chloe. lovely _ talking to you all. thank you, and chloe, lovely to _ talking to you all. thank you, and chloe, lovely to see _ talking to you all. thank you, and chloe, lovely to see you - talking to you all. thank you, and chloe, lovely to see you this - chloe, lovely to see you this morning. the level of your achievement is off the scale. you have swum the channel now 44 times. in 12 years. that is quite extraordinary. what is the drive and what is going on? the extraordinary. what is the drive and what is going on?— what is going on? the english channel is _ what is going on? the english channel is the _ what is going on? the english channel is the mecca - what is going on? the english channel is the mecca of - what is going on? the english channel is the mecca of open | what is going on? the english - channel is the mecca of open water and the channel draws swimmers from across the world because of the difficulty and there will be strong tides, waves, cold water and shipping lanes in the middle and we have the dover to calais ferry straits and an incredibly difficult swim and historically this is where the best swimmers have tested themselves. the best swimmers have tested themselves-— the best swimmers have tested themselves. two aunts ? to ask charlie's question _ themselves. two aunts ? to ask charlie's question again, - themselves. two aunts ? to ask charlie's question again, after. themselves. two aunts ? to ask| charlie's question again, after all of that, what draws you to it? tenth? of that, what draws you to it? why auestion of that, what draws you to it? why question of — of that, what draws you to it? why question of when _ of that, what draws you to it? why question of when i _ of that, what draws you to it? hisusg question of when i was 19 i of that, what draws you to it? hisuy question of when i was 19 i decided i wanted to be the 7 best of the well at something and i realised in the pool i could tap into the experience and funnel that into swimming, marathon swimming and become the best in the well. does swimming, marathon swimming and become the best in the well.- become the best in the well. does it aet an become the best in the well. does it get any easier? _ become the best in the well. does it get any easier? single _ become the best in the well. does it get any easier? single crossings - become the best in the well. does it get any easier? single crossings for| get any easier? single crossings for me are not — get any easier? single crossings for me are not easy _ get any easier? single crossings for me are not easy but _ get any easier? single crossings for me are not easy but more - me are not easy but more comfortable.— me are not easy but more comfortable. :, :, , ., comfortable. you need to explain the nhrase comfortable. you need to explain the phrase because _ comfortable. you need to explain the phrase because single _ comfortable. you need to explain the phrase because single crossing - comfortable. you need to explain the| phrase because single crossing means you go from here to there and the reason you can put that down the list, because you've done it and gone there and gone back again, you have done all three, the triple. i am one of five people to have done a triple nonstop crossing of the england channel, go to france, swim to england, get out, swim back to france. :, :, ., , :, to england, get out, swim back to france. :, :, ., ., :, to england, get out, swim back to france. :, :, :, ., :, :, france. how long are you allowed to be out for? — france. how long are you allowed to be out for? you _ france. how long are you allowed to be out for? you can _ france. how long are you allowed to be out for? you can have _ france. how long are you allowed to be out for? you can have ten - france. how long are you allowed to. be out for? you can have ten minutes on shore, be out for? you can have ten minutes on shore. but — be out for? you can have ten minutes on shore, but especially _ be out for? you can have ten minutes on shore, but especially don't - be out for? you can have ten minutes on shore, but especially don't take i on shore, but especially don't take it because you could get hypothermia.— it because you could get hypothermia. it because you could get h nothermia. :, :, , :, it because you could get h nothermia. :, :, , ., hypothermia. how long did you stand outside? three _ hypothermia. how long did you stand outside? three minutes. _ hypothermia. how long did you stand outside? three minutes. how- hypothermia. how long did you stand outside? three minutes. how long i hypothermia. how long did you stand | outside? three minutes. how long did it take? 36 outside? three minutes. how long did it take? 5: ~ ., , ., ' , do it take? 36 hours and 12 minutes. do ou ever it take? 36 hours and 12 minutes. do you ever feel — it take? 36 hours and 12 minutes. do you ever feel the _ it take? 36 hours and 12 minutes. do you ever feel the cold _ it take? 36 hours and 12 minutes. do you ever feel the cold in _ it take? 36 hours and 12 minutes. do you ever feel the cold in normal- you everfeel the cold in normal circumstances? you ever feel the cold in normal circumstances?— you ever feel the cold in normal circumstances? definitely. i don't even like the _ circumstances? definitely. i don't even like the cold. _ circumstances? definitely. i don't even like the cold. i'm _ circumstances? definitely. i don't even like the cold. i'm not - circumstances? definitely. i don't even like the cold. i'm not sure i even like the cold. i'm not sure what the temperature - even like the cold. i'm not sure what the temperature is - even like the cold. i'm not sure what the temperature is out. even like the cold. i'm not sure l what the temperature is out here today in salford, but probably quite mild, but if you have a cold day in the uk and i know you're from australia, and you have a cold day and it's 5 , you are like everyone else. you feel the cold? igate else. you feel the cold? we definitely — else. you feel the cold? we definitely feel— else. you feel the cold? , definitely feel the cold but i'm trained to swim in cold water and we have a trained response when swimming long distances and my lungs feel the cold and i still feel it but i just feel the cold and i still feel it but ijust hope quite well? i was readina but ijust hope quite well? i was reading about _ but ijust hope quite well? i was reading about how— but ijust hope quite well? i was reading about how you - but ijust hope quite well? i was reading about how you think- but ijust hope quite well? i was reading about how you think of what you do when you are swimming and there are two parts of the question, and just in terms of mental health, swimming has helped you because you suffered with domestic violence and you had a form of ptsd and this has helped you strengthen yourself to recover. do you want to explain that? alejos i was in a dark spot a few years ago to the point where i was too terrified to fall asleep or i would wake up screaming orjump at shadows. it i would wake up screaming or 'ump at shadows. :. . :. i would wake up screaming or 'ump at shadows. :, , ., , . i would wake up screaming or 'ump at shadows. :, , :, , . shadows. it was a difficult point in m life shadows. it was a difficult point in my life but _ shadows. it was a difficult point in my life but exercise _ shadows. it was a difficult point in my life but exercise gave - shadows. it was a difficult point in my life but exercise gave me - shadows. it was a difficult point in i my life but exercise gave me routine and the ability to release lots of feel—good chemicals like endorphins and serotonin and adrenaline, especially when i exercised in a group environment, it was great to have that sense of community and i was feeling a sense of isolation, so exercising with others was really good to rebuild trust in other people, so it was a key part of my recovery process and also swimming the english channel again has allowed me to set big goals and go after them and when i was suffering, i was really not having my confidence great, so to get back into channel swimming was a big jump for me to get back into it. the other thing i read, and we are told to stay in the present, right, in life, be in the present, enjoy the moment, its ear, revel in it. but when you swim, you do not think about what you are doing as you do think of other moments and targets? sometimes i love to be present in the moment and i think about my technique and that makes the time go quickly, but generally i do what i can do to make it go quickly so i think about my technique and stroke rate and trying to make sure i'm effective in the waves, so that's very present and i took that and in the colours dancing on the water line. i need to get out of this pain and monotony and the shoreline did not get me any closer, and in those times i project myself into those successful finishes as a visualisation technique, and i wonder what it looks and sounds like and what is the emotional experience when i finish the crossing, so i look forward to a positive future. what is the mental step you take when you have a jellyfish on your face? when you have a 'ellyfish on your face? :, :, ~i when you have a 'ellyfish on your face? v when you have a 'ellyfish on your face? �*, :, ., �*, face? look, it's not that bad. it's 'ust a bit face? look, it's not that bad. it's just a bit of— face? look, it's not that bad. it's just a bit of a _ face? look, it's not that bad. it's just a bit of a shock. _ face? look, it's not that bad. it's just a bit of a shock. i _ face? look, it's not that bad. it's just a bit of a shock. ijust - face? look, it's not that bad. it's just a bit of a shock. ijust have i face? look, it's not that bad. it's just a bit of a shock. ijust have a minute of, oh, whatjust happened question mark ok, it was a jellyfish. question mark 0k, it was a jellyfish-— question mark 0k, it was a 'ell ish. , , jellyfish. does it sting your face? the english _ jellyfish. does it sting your face? the english ones _ jellyfish. does it sting your face? the english ones are _ jellyfish. does it sting your face? the english ones are not - jellyfish. does it sting your face? the english ones are not that - jellyfish. does it sting your face? i the english ones are not that bad. it's the ones in australia or the caribbean. i it's the ones in australia or the caribbean-— it's the ones in australia or the caribbean. :, ._ , :, .., caribbean. i love the way you can calibrate the _ caribbean. i love the way you can calibrate the pain _ caribbean. i love the way you can calibrate the pain of _ caribbean. i love the way you can calibrate the pain of jellyfish. - caribbean. i love the way you can| calibrate the pain of jellyfish. you calibrate the pain ofjellyfish. you have presumably been stung by all of them. :, , ., :, . ., them. portuguese man of war, box 'ell ish, them. portuguese man of war, box jellyfish. and _ them. portuguese man of war, box jellyfish. and all— them. portuguese man of war, box jellyfish, and all of— them. portuguese man of war, box jellyfish, and all of the _ them. portuguese man of war, box jellyfish, and all of the tame - them. portuguese man of war, box jellyfish, and all of the tame ones. | jellyfish, and all of the tame ones. what's it like when you get stung by the worst one? i what's it like when you get stung by the worst one?— what's it like when you get stung by the worst one?_ 0h. j the worst one? i wanted to die. oh. i was in so — the worst one? i wanted to die. oh. i was in so much _ the worst one? i wanted to die. oh. i was in so much pain. _ the worst one? i wanted to die. oh. i was in so much pain. you - i was in so much pain. you presumably had to stop? we've all stopped laughing a bit now. you literally had to stop because you thought, well 7 i was trying to swim between cuba and america but the jellyfish there are toxic. what is next? i am glad you're ok. it jellyfish there are toxic. what is next? i am glad you're 0k. it wore off quickly. — next? i am glad you're 0k. it wore off quickly, thankfully. _ next? i am glad you're 0k. it wore off quickly, thankfully. i _ next? i am glad you're 0k. it wore off quickly, thankfully. i felt - next? i am glad you're 0k. it wore off quickly, thankfully. i felt a - off quickly, thankfully. i felt a bit itchy the next day. i do off quickly, thankfully. i felt a bit itchy the next day. i do find it cuite a bit itchy the next day. i do find it quite a remarkable _ bit itchy the next day. i do find it quite a remarkable woman, - bit itchy the next day. i do find it - quite a remarkable woman, honestly. quick, five seconds, what is next? i love doing keynote speaking so i want to continue that in person. fiend want to continue that in person. and hel-uin want to continue that in person. and helping carol swim the channel. there is a challenge. chloe mccardel, brilliant person, amazing, impressive, thank you so much. thanks for having a much 7 having me on. you're watching bbc breakfast. it's 8.59. this is bbc news, with the latest headlines. the goverment wants gps in england to see more patients in person. ministers unveil a £250 million pound winter rescue package, following a sharp fall in face—to—face appointments during the pandemic. it's clear that the patient should be seen face—to—face, if that's what they want, and it's important that the patient is given a choice. this is the package that's going to help to do that. have you struggled to get a face—to—face gp appointment? do you think what are in effect league tables for gps are a good idea? or perhaps you prefer telephone and video—based consultations with your doctor? let me know what you think.

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