intake. as mcdonald's launches its planned range, we look at the growth of vegan food and whether it is doing awesome or the environment any good. good morning. an important world cup qualifying for scotland putting them can only manage a against hungary. and we'll hear from bbc weather presenter 0wain wyn evans on how he plans to drum up charity donations for this year's children in need. good morning. todayis today is going to be fairly cloudy for many of us but we will see some sunny breaks develop. however, cloud across northern and western scotland would be taken off for some showers. details coming up. good morning. it's wednesday, the 13th of october. our top story. it's wednesday, the 13th of october. care companies are struggling to recruit enough people — and there's a shortfall of more than 100,000 staff in england. a new report says there are now more vacantjobs than before the pandemic, and that the mandatory vaccination policy could prompt even more resignations. the report — by the monitoring group skills for care — says the number of unfilled jobs has increased from over 6% during the pandemic, to more than 8% now. it found 105,000 social care vacancies were being advertised on an average day in 2020 to 2021. and levels of staff sickness have nearly doubled over the course of the pandemic — from an average of 5.1 sick days to 9.5. with more on this, here's our social affairs editor, alison holt. so nurses have been up today, the bandages were too tight but they are all right now? yeah, they're fine. this visit to 103—year—old margaret will help her with her lunch and personal care. she has recently returned home after a four—week stay in hospital. how do you feel about being home now, rather than being in hospital? oh, i am glad to be home, definitely. after four weeks away. the amount of support she needs has increased, but here in buckinghamshire finding enough staff to cover all the demand for home care is now extremely difficult. it means care supervisor charlotte and manager vicky are having to step in to fill gaps in the rota. we are struggling for staff at the moment, so i'm finding, i think last week, every night i think i was out doing one or two care calls. we do have to pick up the phone and change times, we do have to be creative with the care that we provide. and until we can get some more people through the door to support us with that, then that's the way things will have to stay. there you go. today's report says whilst recruitment of care staff improved during the lockdowns, absence because of sickness has doubled and staff vacancies are now rising steadily, with existing staff exhausted and much better pay on offer elsewhere. how many sicknesses have we had today? the doctor who runs this care company also worked on hospital wards helping to discharge patients during the pandemic. with such a shortage of care staff in the community, he worries about the knock—on effect on the nhs. we normally are having to turn down eight new patients a day because we don't have the capacity of staff to be able to help them. for us to be in this position before the winter, before the christmas period, is terrifying. so looking after patients now is hard. can you imagine when the winter comes, when the cold weather comes, people will become more unwell? the government says it is running regular recruitment campaigns and is putting an extra £500 million into training and developing the skills of care staff. alison holt, bbc news. the brexit minister lord frost has proposed major changes to the northern ireland protocol. that's the deal which means goods travelling between northern ireland and the republic aren't subject to border checks. the protocol was agreed by the uk and the european union during brexit negotiations but has since faced criticism. let's get more on this from our chief political correspondent, adam fleming. good morning. so tell us a little more about what lord frost may be proposing to change? goad more about what lord frost may be proposing to change? good morning. it is worth having _ proposing to change? good morning. it is worth having a _ proposing to change? good morning. it is worth having a recap _ proposing to change? good morning. it is worth having a recap about - it is worth having a recap about what _ it is worth having a recap about what this— it is worth having a recap about what this is about. we haven't talked — what this is about. we haven't talked about it for a while, having talked _ talked about it for a while, having talked about it for a while, having talked about it for a while, having talked about it constantly for about two years — talked about it constantly for about two years. under the northern ireland — two years. under the northern ireland protocol some eu law relating — ireland protocol some eu law relating to goods, plant and animal products— relating to goods, plant and animal products and medicines still applies in northern ireland, even after brexit— in northern ireland, even after brexit has— in northern ireland, even after brexit has happened. that is so that goods— brexit has happened. that is so that goods can _ brexit has happened. that is so that goods can flow freely from northern ireland _ goods can flow freely from northern ireland to _ goods can flow freely from northern ireland to ireland without any checks, — ireland to ireland without any checks, but it means there are checks — checks, but it means there are checks on_ checks, but it means there are checks on some going from great britain _ checks on some going from great britain into— checks on some going from great britain into northern ireland. the uk is _ britain into northern ireland. the uk is finding that pretty intolerable. it thinks there are too many— intolerable. it thinks there are too many checks and too much disruption to trade _ many checks and too much disruption to trade. yesterday, in a speech in lisbon. _ to trade. yesterday, in a speech in lisbon. lord— to trade. yesterday, in a speech in lisbon, lord frost, the brexit minister. _ lisbon, lord frost, the brexit minister, called for the northern ireland _ minister, called for the northern ireland protocol to be entirely replaced — ireland protocol to be entirely replaced by something completely new and completely different. what we are going — and completely different. what we are going to get it today is the eu response — are going to get it today is the eu response. they are going to propose some _ response. they are going to propose some pretty major tweaks to the protocol, — some pretty major tweaks to the protocol, but keeping the protocol itself— protocol, but keeping the protocol itself in _ protocol, but keeping the protocol itself in place. they would just change — itself in place. they would just change how it is applied in practice _ change how it is applied in practice. the eu feels that is going quite _ practice. the eu feels that is going quite a _ practice. the eu feels that is going quite a long way. it does not think it is going — quite a long way. it does not think it is going anywhere close to what the uk _ it is going anywhere close to what the uk was asking for yesterday. what _ the uk was asking for yesterday. what that— the uk was asking for yesterday. what that means in the short term is we are _ what that means in the short term is we are in— what that means in the short term is we are in for— what that means in the short term is we are in for another couple of weeks. — we are in for another couple of weeks, maybe a month, have quite intense _ weeks, maybe a month, have quite intense negotiations. but if they don't _ intense negotiations. but if they don't work out, in the middle of next _ don't work out, in the middle of next month we could be looking at quite _ next month we could be looking at quite a _ next month we could be looking at quite a major confrontation between the uk _ quite a major confrontation between the uk and — quite a major confrontation between the uk and the eu going back to those _ the uk and the eu going back to those days of when it all felt quite dramatic— those days of when it all felt quite dramatic and quite angry between the two sides _ dramatic and quite angry between the two sides. . ~ dramatic and quite angry between the two sides. ., ,, , ., ships are being diverted away from the uk's largest commercial port because of a backlog of containers. the port of felixstowe, which handles more than a third of the uk's container traffic, said the ongoing shortage of hgv drivers was partly to blame, as graham satchell reports. a logjam at felixstowe, the uk's biggest commercial port. the situation is so serious some larger ships are being re—routed to other ports in europe. morning, mate. how are you doing? morning. i'm 0k. you? adam runs a haulage firm with 85 lorries. instead of taking empty containers back to felixstowe as normal, he's had to take them to liverpool as there is no space. there is a massive backlog of deliveries created by the driver shortage, brexit and a number of other things. it has just all created a perfect storm. in normal circumstances it takes two or three days for a container to be collected and driven away once it has been unloaded to the dock. the so—called dwell time is now closer to ten days. the worry now is what impact all this will have on christmas. will there be a shortage of toys and other gifts this year? i think that there will be some disruption this christmas as a result of the hgv shortage. but retailers are really adept at making sure that they prioritise the things people want, making sure that people's christmas favourites are available to buy. there are difficulties in the supply chain in other countries, america and china. this is a global problem. the government says it is working closely with the freight industry to work through the challenges. graham satchell, bbc news. short courses in science and technology will be offered to adults in england, as part of the government's plans to increase skills in the workplace. its a modest addition to a wider programme of educational reform, including introducing qualifications called t levels for 16 to 18—year—olds. ministers want to build a new approach to skills in england. and michelle donelan is in charge of making it work. this building is being turned into swindon's institute of technology. short courses in science and technology will be on offer, top—ups for adults already in work. we know that people do four or five jobs in one lifetime nowadays. and there are jobs that will be around in a year's time that potentially are not very today, so we need an education system that is flexible and nimble and can cope with that and enable people to progress in their careers. if i can ask you to put your bed at a 30 degree angle. but this is a far bigger change. some of the first t level students, studying health care hands—on at college. 0ne t level is the equivalent of three a—levels. i struggle with writing things down and remembering it like that. i'm a very, like — i see things visibly and remember a lot easier. so that was what drew me to the course most. i'm quite a shy person, but like i think as i'd like work with more people and i talk to more people, i will come out of that shell and i'll become more confident with everything. i think a t level is probably the best option because, like i said, the facilities are great and it's more hands—on, so it teaches you better skills than btec would. t levels involve a lot of hands—on learning. but the students will also get a 45 day work placement, and they have to do that in order to complete a t level. but as more t levels are added in other subjects, the plan is to withdraw funding from some btecs. it's controversial. btecs are a proven route to success. but ministers argue it's needed to avoid duplication. branwenjeffreys, bbc news, swindon. now charlie stayt, that got you. i wasn't listening but now i am because you used your surname. and what would you say is the perfect romantic gesture? chocolates? flowers ? no, it would be a rotating house. 0h, no, it would be a rotating house. oh, look, here is one! that is speeded up, isn't it? a man in bosnia has built a rotating house for his wife. apparently, she was tired of seeing the same view from her window, and he was so fed up of hearing her complain that he got to work. this is the result. i'm not sure that is my _ this is the result. i'm not sure that is my idea _ this is the result. i'm not sure that is my idea of— this is the result. i'm not sure that is my idea of romance. i this is the result. i'm not sure i that is my idea of romance. that would make a —— that would make me feel a little bit queasy. it would make a -- that would make me feel a little bit queasy.— feel a little bit queasy. it does rotate. feel a little bit queasy. it does rotate it _ feel a little bit queasy. it does rotate. it is _ feel a little bit queasy. it does rotate. it is a _ feel a little bit queasy. it does rotate. it is a bit _ feel a little bit queasy. it does rotate. it is a bit like - feel a little bit queasy. it does rotate. it is a bit like being - feel a little bit queasy. it does rotate. it is a bit like being on| feel a little bit queasy. it does. rotate. it is a bit like being on a barre. rotate. it is a bit like being on a barge that _ rotate. it is a bit like being on a barge. that would _ rotate. it is a bit like being on a barge. that would not - rotate. it is a bit like being on a barge. that would not be - rotate. it is a bit like being on a barge. that would not be my i rotate. it is a bit like being on a - barge. that would not be my choice. i don't think it's a bad idea. because you can pose it. if you choose the place you want you could stay there permanently. it's the seasons, that is the thing. maybe as the seasons change you have a tree out that way, it looks lovely. it's practical. it kind of works. also, if you had grass in front of the front door and it got messed up duck carol, he has ruined it now by saying it is practical rather than romantic. good morning. absolutely. good morning. it doesn't do it for me. i would rather a cup of tea. it is a chilly start to the day in east anglia. temperatures last night fell close to freezing. clear skies here. it won't last. we've also got some mist and fog patches around with poor visibility in some places. the forecast for today is a mostly dry one. it is often going to be cloudy. you can see the extent of the cloud cover across the country. clear skies at the moment in east anglia. the cloud will build. clear skies in the south—west. cloud will build for you. you could catch an isolated shower. across the midlands through parts of wales and northern ireland we could see the cloud break and some sunshine coming through. the cloud taken off in northern and western scotland to produce some showers. temperatures 12 to 17 degrees. not as good as it did yesterday along the north sea coastline. through this evening and overnight once again we are looking at a fair bit of cloud. still quite at a fair bit of cloud. still quite a few showers. the when starting to pick up close to the north of scotland. that is ahead of this weather front coming our way. tomorrow, this weather front, weather front coming our way. tomorrow, this weatherfront, this cold front, is going to sink southwards, taking some heavy rain with it. getting into southern scotland and northern ireland by the end of the afternoon, followed by some hefty showers. still a lot of dry weather ahead of it, also some sunshine. a few showers dotted around. temperatures 12 to 70 degrees. you will notice the wind across the far north. thank you, carol. the fast food chain mcdonalds is launching a new burger today — and it's vegan. nina's at a food factory in milton keynes to find out if the growing vegan movement is here to stay, orjust another food fad. morning, nina. tell us about your surroundings? what kind of place is this? yes. what kind of place is this? yes, aood what kind of place is this? yes, good morning — what kind of place is this? yes, good morning from _ what kind of place is this? yes, good morning from falafel - good morning from falafel headquarters in milton keynes. behind me they are making them into those small delicious balls. look at the ingredients. we have bread, peppers, dates, onions, herbs and spices and chickpeas, all churned up to become of these. there you go. my stomach is rumbling. they get through 50 tonnes of chickpeas here every single week and they go on to supply tesco, asda, pret a manger. the market is growing. you know the market is growing because mcdonald's, as you are saying, is expanding. it goes out to 250 restaurants from today. let's look at why that market is growing. it is at why that market is growing. it is a reflection in changes in how weird. as a nation in our daily meat consumption over the past decade has reduced by about 17%. lots of things at play here, ethical concerns around animal welfare, environmental concerns and also health awareness. the guinness is a step further, that is taking dairy out of your diet as well as meet. that is increased by 37%. lots of families becoming aware of taking those elements out of their diet. it is reflected in retail. let's take out milk, for example, to replace dairy milk. the market in 2019 was around £74 million. by 2021, in the space of just two years, that have more than doubled to 146 million. fascinating. let's speak to joe. good let's speak tojoe. good morning. let's speak to joe. good morning. lovely to see you. you have been in this vegan game for a while. what do you put behind the growth? i while. what do you put behind the urowth? ~' ., , growth? i think the growth is driven predominantly _ growth? i think the growth is driven predominantly by — growth? i think the growth is driven predominantly by people _ growth? i think the growth is driven predominantly by people looking i growth? i think the growth is driven predominantly by people looking to| predominantly by people looking to reduce the amount of meat they are eating. in the uk there is still only about 1% of the games. the growth is driven predominantly by people either looking to cut down meat or... it is just a balance. people either looking to cut down meat or... it isjust a balance. the world health organization is recommending a balance of food. we want to predominately eat nutritious food that is more plant —based with just a small amount of meat. food that is more plant -based with just a small amount of meat. what's really interesting _ just a small amount of meat. what's really interesting as _ just a small amount of meat. what's really interesting as there _ just a small amount of meat. what's really interesting as there was i just a small amount of meat. what's really interesting as there was a i really interesting as there was a huge growth during lockdown. why do you think that is?— you think that is? firstly, people had more time. _ you think that is? firstly, people had more time. they _ you think that is? firstly, people had more time. they were i you think that is? firstly, people had more time. they were at i you think that is? firstly, people i had more time. they were at home, so they could make considered choices and they also had time to prepare their meals. and secondly, there was a realfocus their meals. and secondly, there was a real focus around their meals. and secondly, there was a realfocus around health their meals. and secondly, there was a real focus around health during the covid period. there is recognition a plant —based diet has a positive impact heart disease, some forms of cancer and type two diabetes. ., some forms of cancer and type two diabetes. ,, ., ., ., ., diabetes. some argue that if we all turned vegan _ diabetes. some argue that if we all turned vegan tomorrow, _ diabetes. some argue that if we all turned vegan tomorrow, if - diabetes. some argue that if we all turned vegan tomorrow, if we i diabetes. some argue that if we all turned vegan tomorrow, if we all . turned vegan tomorrow, if we all turned vegan tomorrow, if we all turned to an exclusively plant —based diet, that would also have a detrimental impact on the environment. we don't have the infrastructure to support it and isn't enough landmass? again, it's about balance. _ isn't enough landmass? again, it's about balance. it _ isn't enough landmass? again, it's about balance. it is _ isn't enough landmass? again, it's about balance. it is about - isn't enough landmass? again, it's about balance. it is about reducing intensive farming and increasing the amount of plant —based food we eat in our diets. the amount of plant -based food we eat in our diets— in our diets. the proof though, as ever, is in our diets. the proof though, as ever. is in — in our diets. the proof though, as ever, is in the _ in our diets. the proof though, as ever, is in the taste. _ in our diets. the proof though, as ever, is in the taste. there i in our diets. the proof though, as ever, is in the taste. there is i ever, is in the taste. there is something delicious about a meat by—product. vegan food has a reputation only been known for being a bit bland. , ., ., ., a bit bland. there is a wealth of healthy alternatives _ a bit bland. there is a wealth of healthy alternatives to - a bit bland. there is a wealth of healthy alternatives to meat. i a bit bland. there is a wealth of i healthy alternatives to meat. the key with all food is just to keep things natural. that is why here we just use natural products, the best of mother nature.— of mother nature. fascinating that the market — of mother nature. fascinating that the market is _ of mother nature. fascinating that the market is expanding _ of mother nature. fascinating that the market is expanding and i of mother nature. fascinating that i the market is expanding and changing so rapidly. and mcdonald's getting on board is a big sign of that. their target is to be carbon neutral ijy their target is to be carbon neutral by 2050. this is a part of that. the government say we are short of the target for meat production. so this industry does look like it is growing. and mcdonald's taking this product and widely get out as a big part of that. nina, thank you. part ofthat. nina,thank ou. ., , nina, thank you. fascinating. yes, thank you- — nina, thank you. fascinating. yes, thank you- we _ nina, thank you. fascinating. yes, thank you. we will _ nina, thank you. fascinating. yes, thank you. we will see _ nina, thank you. fascinating. yes, thank you. we will see you - nina, thank you. fascinating. yes, thank you. we will see you soon. | thank you. we will see you soon. thank you. it was one of the unexpected highlights of lockdown — finding out that the bbc weather presenter 0wain wyn evans is a whizz on the drums. now he's putting those skills to good use. he's going to take part in a 24—hour drumathon, to raise money for children in need. he is going to start and finish that a challenge on breakfast. 0wain took breakfast�*s jayne mccubbin to his hometown of ammanford, in south wales, to show her where it all began. we are taking 0wain home. here we are. back we are taking 0wain home. here we are- lsack to — we are taking 0wain home. here we are. back to wales. _ we are taking 0wain home. here we are. back to wales. back— we are taking 0wain home. here we are. back to wales. back to - are. back to wales. back to ammanford.— are. back to wales. back to ammanford.- mum i are. back to wales. back to i ammanford.- mum and dad! are. back to wales. back to ammanford. hello! mum and dad! back to his mum and — ammanford. hello! mum and dad! back to his mum and dad. _ ammanford. hello! mum and dad! back to his mum and dad. jane. _ ammanford. hello! mum and dad! back to his mum and dad. jane. allen, i to his mum and dad. jane. allen, cath , to his mum and dad. jane. allen, cathy. my — to his mum and dad. jane. allen, cathy, my parents. _ to his mum and dad. jane. allen, cathy, my parents. chris- to his mum and dad. jane. allen, cathy, my parents. chris on i to his mum and dad. jane. allen, i cathy, my parents. chris on camera. you've brought the obligatory embarrassing baby photos. weill. you've brought the obligatory embarrassing baby photos. well, we have a copple _ embarrassing baby photos. well, we have a couple here, _ embarrassing baby photos. well, we have a couple here, yes. _ embarrassing baby photos. well, we have a couple here, yes. there i embarrassing baby photos. well, we have a couple here, yes. there you i have a couple here, yes. there you no. have a couple here, yes. there you go a _ have a couple here, yes. there you go. a dedicated follower of fashion. even then— go. a dedicated follower of fashion. even then i— go. a dedicated follower of fashion. even then i tried to work an outfit. 0wain wyn evans, flamboyant weather presenter, was born with a shock of red hair in ammanford in 1984. and from an early age he wondered if you would ever really fit in.— would ever really fit in. cathy's father was _ would ever really fit in. cathy's father was a — would ever really fit in. cathy's father was a mining _ would ever really fit in. cathy's father was a mining engineer. | would ever really fit in. cathy's i father was a mining engineer. my fatherwas a mining engineer. my father— fatherwas a mining engineer. my father was— fatherwas a mining engineer. my father was a — fatherwas a mining engineer. my father was a coal— fatherwas a mining engineer. my father was a coal miner. - fatherwas a mining engineer. my father was a coal miner. 84- father was a mining engineer. my father was a coal miner.— father was a mining engineer. my father was a coal miner. 84 when you were born- — father was a coal miner. 84 when you were born. that _ father was a coal miner. 84 when you were born. that is _ father was a coal miner. 84 when you were born. that is when _ father was a coal miner. 84 when you were born. that is when you - father was a coal miner. 84 when you were born. that is when you had i father was a coal miner. 84 when you were born. that is when you had the l were born. that is when you had the minor— were born. that is when you had the minor stroke — were born. that is when you had the minor stroke. | were born. that is when you had the minor stroke-— minor stroke. i remember i had this ink minor stroke. i remember i had this pink mopeds- _ minor stroke. i remember i had this pink mopeds- lt _ minor stroke. i remember i had this pink mopeds. it was _ minor stroke. i remember i had this pink mopeds. it was the _ minor stroke. i remember i had this pink mopeds. it was the most i pink mopeds. it was the most flamboyant bike you could imagine. always interested in things you wouldn't — always interested in things you wouldn't expect. the drums as a four—year—old. then we started on the disco _ four—year—old. then we started on the disco lights. what is the glitter— the disco lights. what is the glitter ball? yes. a the disco lights. what is the glitter ball? yes.— the disco lights. what is the ulitter ball? yes. ~ , glitter ball? yes. a smoke machine. we thought — glitter ball? yes. a smoke machine. we thought the _ glitter ball? yes. a smoke machine. we thought the shed _ glitter ball? yes. a smoke machine. we thought the shed was _ glitter ball? yes. a smoke machine. we thought the shed was on - glitter ball? yes. a smoke machine. we thought the shed was on fire. i glitter ball? yes. a smoke machine. | we thought the shed was on fire. but it was— we thought the shed was on fire. but it was the _ we thought the shed was on fire. but it was the smoke machine. ammanford had never seen — it was the smoke machine. ammanford had never seen anything _ it was the smoke machine. ammanford had never seen anything like _ it was the smoke machine. ammanford had never seen anything like this, i - had never seen anything like this, i would imagine? i had never seen anything like this, i would imagine?— had never seen anything like this, i would imagine? i don't suppose, no! but none of — would imagine? i don't suppose, no! but none of this _ would imagine? i don't suppose, no! but none of this was _ would imagine? i don't suppose, no! but none of this was easy _ would imagine? i don't suppose, no! but none of this was easy in - would imagine? i don't suppose, no! but none of this was easy in the - but none of this was easy in the former mining town. you but none of this was easy in the former mining town.— but none of this was easy in the former mining town. you know, i knew i was former mining town. you know, i knew iwas aa former mining town. you know, i knew i was gay from — former mining town. you know, i knew i was gay from a _ former mining town. you know, i knew i was gay from a young _ former mining town. you know, i knew i was gay from a young age _ former mining town. you know, i knew i was gay from a young age but - former mining town. you know, i knew i was gay from a young age but here i i was gay from a young age but here in ammanford there was just no reference point as far as that went, wasn't there?— wasn't there? one thing really heled. i wasn't there? one thing really helped. i came _ wasn't there? one thing really helped. i came across - wasn't there? one thing really helped. i came across them i wasn't there? one thing really - helped. i came across them today. in the garden. — helped. i came across them today. in the garden. in _ helped. i came across them today. in the garden, in the _ helped. i came across them today. in the garden, in the shed, _ helped. i came across them today. in the garden, in the shed, behind - helped. i came across them today. in| the garden, in the shed, behind some chairs _ the garden, in the shed, behind some chairs they— the garden, in the shed, behind some chairs. they make _ the garden, in the shed, behind some chairs. they make excellent _ the garden, in the shed, behind some chairs. they make excellent tool - chairs. they make excellent tool handles — 0h, oh, my god! oh, my god! ithink here oh, my god! oh, my god! i think here i would have been about 17 or 18. the overtones was a school band. ., , ., , , 17 or 18. the overtones was a school band. ., , , , band. could you fully be yourself then? had _ band. could you fully be yourself then? had you — band. could you fully be yourself then? had you come _ band. could you fully be yourself then? had you come out - band. could you fully be yourself then? had you come out at - band. could you fully be yourself then? had you come out at that| then? had you come out at that point? then? had you come out at that oint? ., . �* then? had you come out at that oint? ., ., �* _, ., �* point? no, i hadn't come out. at this stage _ point? no, i hadn't come 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said, it's like changing -- life saving - be myself. as you said, it's like changing -- life saving and - changing —— life saving and potentially life changing. i wish i could give you both a big ammanford hug. you have been amazing. thank you. i love you! can ijust say thank you. i love you! can i just say thank you so much. it has been so great meeting you all today. and what a place ijust meeting you all today. and what a place i just wish that mess meeting you all today. and what a place ijust wish that mess up meeting you all today. and what a place i just wish that mess up the mess existed when i was here in ammanford. keep being fabulous. thank you all. applause. ., ~ thank you all. applause. ., applause. thank you! that was quite an emotional — applause. thank you! that was quite an emotionaljourney _ applause. thank you! that was quite an emotionaljourney for _ applause. thank you! that was quite an emotionaljourney for him. - applause. thank you! that was quite an emotionaljourney for him. you - an emotionaljourney for him. you will be here in the studio later. have you noticed anything? ida. let's find out how you can support owain's drumathon challenge. if you would like to support owain's drumathon challenge effect and donated to bbc children in need, you can donate £5 by texting the word of jerome... time now to get the news, travel and weather where you are. good morning, i'm sonja jessup. homeless charities in london are warning higher numbers of women face being on the streets this winter, as some of the government's support schemes, such as furlough and the eviction ban, come to an end. some shelters have already seen a rise in women needing temporary accomodation. the new horizon youth centre in the kings cross area says requests for help have more than doubled in a year. compared to last summer, there was around 10% of young people who accessed our services were young women. that's drastically increased this year, so it's now at 35%. approaching us for a wide range of reasons, so increasing violence situations throughout the pandemic. more young women that are losing theirjobs as a result of the pandemic and therefore unable to manage independently and finding themselves in situations of homelessness. the government says tackling homelessness remains an absolute priority and an unprecedented £750 million is being spent this year. a woman has been injured in a blaze at a block of flats in battersea. the building in westbridge road was evacuated after a flat on the 20th floor caught light. the woman left before crews arrived and was treated for breathing in smoke. police say they've stepped up patrols after a spate of bike robberies in the richmond park. there have been three reports in the last week. a professional rider has been threatened with a machete. london's tourism industry has been severely affected by the pandemic there are concerns that some of london's green spaces are becoming a dumping ground for unwanted exotic pets. two turtles were spotted in the lakes in bushy park in south west london as well as a giant crab. and a large lobster was recently pulled out of the ladies pond in hampstead heath. let's take a look at how the tube is running this morning... there's no overground running between edmonton green and enfield town. it's after the train derailment yesterday. other lines running as normal. onto the weather now. good morning. we are still looking at a largely settled day today. high pressure still centred to the south—west of the uk but it is dragging in a little more cloud. one or two spots, a bright start this morning further east. quickly the cloud will move in from the west. the cloud enough to produce in part one or two spots of rain. gradually dry as we head through the afternoon. largely overcast throughout, maybe one or two brighter spells. temperatures today reaching a maximum of 17 celsius. not feeling too chilly at all. overnight we will hang on to the cloud. it should however stay largely dry — one or two breaks in the cloud leading to one or two clearer spells. minimum temperature somewhere between 8 and 10 celsius in central london. thursday again it is looking largely cloudy. you can see the high pressure slowly slipping away. the wind strengthens on thursday afternoon and we will see more cloud as we head overnight. that is a cold front. it might linger into friday morning but gradually clearing to a brighter afternoon on friday. introduces some chilly air. i'll be back in half an hour. much more on our website now, though. back to charlie and sally. bye for now. hello, this is breakfast with charlie stayt and sally nugent. coming up on breakfast this morning... a friendship forged in tragedy. kerry lost her teenage daughter to mdma which was supplied by tammy's son. now the two mothers are teaming up in the fight against illegal drugs. the actor mark gatiss will bejoining us for a chat about his work on sherlock, doctor who, league of gentlemen and his new role as jacob marley in a stage production of a christmas carol. and star trek�*s william shatner will boldly go to the edge of space today, for real this time. we'll be chatting about the trip with his good friend, the musician ben folds. back injune, bbc breakfast met up with the england rugby legend mike tindall and his dad philip, who has been living with parkinson's disease for almost 20 years. sadly, he's not alone. around 145,000 people in the uk have parkinson's and the disease can affect them in all sorts of different ways. mike wanted to shed some light on some of their stories, so he and i went to meet them for a chat. take a look. living with parkinson's means a completely different way of life than it used to be. my advice for anyone who's been recently diagnosed i is most importantly, - don't be too hard on yourself. really important that people recognise you don't have parkinson's, your family has it. a good friend said to me, "you may have parkinson's but parkinson's. has not got you." so, mike, the last time we saw you was at your mum and dad's house. it was. are you wobbly today? yes, i'm wobbly today. are you wibbly wobbly? wibbly wobbly, yeah. are you all right? yeah, not bad. how's everything else? can youjigjog? been out for your run this morning? but we're here today to talk to other people and families who are affected by parkinson's. what do you hope to learn? i just think it's all about the different stories, the different journeys. everyone's symptoms are so different. i think the more you can learn and absorb, the more people it will help. ready to meet them? i'm ready. let's go. right. my name is david. i'm 77 years old. i've lived with parkinson for 14 years. that's better. so you were 63 when you got diagnosed. exactly, yeah. what i had was, symptoms were tingling on my left side. i'd been a fairly active sportsman, not at your exalted level but i played a lot of rugby. do we need to talk about wales—england rugby first? i thought, it's a trapped nerve. i was sent to a neurologist and within two minutes he said, "you've got parkinson's." david came home. he'd gone to the hospital. appointment on his own and he came him and told me, "i've got parkinson's." - i laughed. matter of fact. "i've got parkinson's. let's move on." what are we doing for tea? yeah, exactly. what do you make of it? he's the cook in the house. what are you making for tea? i didn't accept it, then he gotl the message across, actually, "i have got parkinson's." you know, we're14 years down the line now and i think i'm - probably still in i denial quite a lot. you started living - with it psychologically straightaway and i've been blocking it out for years. l my mum also is basically a primary carer and puts her own things aside, which she shouldn't be doing. my mum's been amazed by the stuff that sally did with my mum and dad, how many people have offered to come for a chat, play chess with my dad, play cards with my dad, while she can get out. he doesn't sleep well at night. like your mum, we do. put our own needs aside. i focus on my husband, _ my children and grandchildren now as well. he's a husband. it's not yourjob. yeah. so you've always got to make sure you get that balance of that right, otherwise it can weigh you down. i've seen it with mum and dad, it can weigh you down. my name is omotola. i'm 41 years. i got diagnosed with parkinson's disease in 2016. i think it's because of my age, my race and my gender, nobody really thought about parkinson's. with mimi, i remember when she was much younger, and i used to braid her hair. it was more like a bonding experience for both of us. as parkinson's progressed and i lost my fine and gross motor skills, that became... i lost the ability to do that and that was very difficult and challenging for me. i didn't want to fall into despair. ididn't... i knew that i didn't want to let this illness get the best of me or be overcome by it. i've looked at this as an adventure. it's not an easy one. but, yeah. wow! my name's alison, i'm 52 years old. i've been diagnosed - with parkinson's for six years. you kind of feel like your whole world has been blown apart. i i was probably in that dark place for three or four months. - i remember crying everyl morning and every night. this is what i've got to deall with and it's day in, day out. i think kind of as a mother, you don't want to... - protecting. you want to protectl your kids a little bit. no point telling them the full story right at the beginning. _ i was a nurse. i nursed for 20 years. i nursed lots of people - with later stage parkinson's. i knew what it looked like. that's all i could think- about when i went home that day in the car. oh, my goodness, that's. what my future looks like. i kind of knew i needed to do something - positive, turn it into something positive and for me that was i raising awareness. i'm amarpal. i'm 68 years old and i've been living with parkinson's for 11 years. do you want to just describe yourjourney of how... what you first thought about when you noticed you might be having symptoms and how was the journey getting to the doctor and getting checked? i was ignoring the symptoms, if i'm honest. the tremor was the first symptom. i was ignoring it because i thought, "i can conquer this, it's nothing." belle, did you notice the tremor right at the start? were you involved in the process or did amarpal sort of hide it from you as well? i noticed the tremor- almost immediately but he's very stubborn... sounds famiiliar! ..and he didn't want to go i to the doctor for a long time until somebody else suggested that he ought to go. _ she didn't take very long to tell me that i've got parkinson's. i didn't accept it for the first three years or so. you think you're going to get on top of it and it's nothing. it can't affect my lifestyle, but it does. it's just such a wide spectrum of people. i connect with david because i see what my mum and dad have gone through. it's very similar age when they got diagnosed, very similar story, slower symptoms. same with amarpal in terms of, he's sort of been figuring it out for himself. it's been fascinating, actually. so what needs to happen now? i think a few things have come out of today, i think. there is a real place to be building a database that is easy to find for everyone to use, to go and... people to share their stories, share their symptoms. obviously doctors, neurologists, are going to differ in their advice, so you almost need to read the stories to actually figure out what is going to work for you, what's going to sit better with you. so i think that's definitely somewhere we could get to, a resource that people who are newly diagnosed, or if people who are walking the path and just at a plateau can go and try and tap into and basically upskill themselves. thank you to everybody who took part in that film anti—michael. we will be speaking to him later on in the programme this morning. you can find details of organisations offering information and support about parkinson 5 disease at bbc.co.uk/actionline. it isa it is a big deal to talk to the camera about something so personal. full of respect for people who are able to do that. now for the sport. what do you have? a mixed bag last night. a mixed bag for the home nations. scotland love a late winner. they are really putting their fans through it. winner. they are really putting theirfans through it. delight winner. they are really putting their fans through it. delight for scotland fans. a bit of a bad taste in the mouths for fans at wembley. hungarian fans clashing. england drew 1—1 with hungary in their world cup qualifier at wembley, but the match was marred by clashes between visiting fans and police. elsewhere, scotland narrowly beat the faroe islands but northern ireland lost to bulgaria ending their faint hopes of qualifying. joe wilson reports. england versus hungary at wembley. one team taking the knee. in the crowd, one banner symbolising objection to an act of anti—racism. early in the game, spectators in the hungarian section clashed with police. this was a reaction, police say, after they arrested a man for racially—aggravated abuse towards a steward. it was the backdrop. it is the context. on the pitch, there was a penalty for hungary, given for this challenge by luke shaw, the height of the foot was enough. and england were behind. commentary: it's an - unexpected turn of events. well after the plain sailing of their qualify, now they had to respond. reaction from john stones... 1—1 at half—time. stones came close to winning it. england's draw will require analysis. what happened in the crowd will, say the fa, be investigated. 200 miles north of home, scotland and their followers knew the reputation of the faroe islands. population of 50,000, almost 1—0 up here. thank you, craig gordon in goal. scotland's position, all their optimism, demanded a win. there were four minutes left, there was lyndon dykes. one goal was as good as ten. qualifying ambition sustained. northern ireland's focus lies on tournaments beyond 2022. they led in bulgaria, lost 2—1. well, more experience for challenges to come. joe wilson, bbc news. andy murray says he is not planning to play in the davis cup finals after losing his third round match at indian wows. a really tight match to the third seed. afterwards he said he needs to rest his body and also believes he does not deserve to make the team. this is physically the best i have felt for awhile. i am battling my game and little bit. it isjust not... consistency isn't there and i don't know. the decision—making is not great in the important moments still. he has been characteristically hard on himself, andy murray. the defending championjudd trump eased into the second round of the northern ireland open without his opponent scoring a single point! trump won all four frames against china's gao yang who couldn't get a footing at the table in belfast. the englishman will play another chinese player, lu ning, for a place in the last 16. it has got to be pretty demoralising, not getting a single point in a match. that is how i would play against anybody! i am pretty mean at snooker can actually pull. snooker is a bit of a step up. i cannot reach across the table. anki very much. —— thank you. now for the weather. a chilly start to the day in east anglia. also some mist and fog and murky conditions around best thing. today will be mostly dry and mostly cloudy as well. what is happening is high pressure is keeping things fairly stagnant. this weather front has moved across us during the course of the night. rain in the north of scotland. we are starting with rain on the east coast as well. during the course of the day the cloud will build in east anglia. there could be the odd shower in the south—west of england. it will break in the midlands, wales and the north of england. showers persisting across the far north and west of scotland. these are the temperatures, 12 to 17 degrees. not as cool as yesterday along the north sea coastline. into the evening and overnight will be sea coastline. into the evening and overnight will he breaks in the cloud but there is a lot of cloud around. the shower is continuing to come in on the south—westerly breeze. by the end of the night we will start to see the wind picked up across the far north of scotland. these are the overnight lows in towns and cities. in rural areas and clear skies it will be lower than this. the front i mentioned is a cold front. it will sink slowly south with getting into southern scotland and ireland by the end of the day. it will be accompanied by gusty winds. heavy rain initially will spread southwards, weakening attach as it does so. for england and wales, dry weather and cloud, some breaks. we will see light rain in england, northern and western parts of wales and the south—west at times. these white circles represent average wind speeds. he will notice i mentioned the wind coming in from the south—west. it veers into the evening in the north of the country into more of a north—westerly. the wind will be touching down force at times behind that weather front for the temperatures tomorrow, cooling down in the north. still comparatively mild conditions as we move further south. it will not last. here comes the weather front overnight thursday into friday, sinking steadily southwards. as it does so, it brings in caleta behind it, as represented by the blue. still mild conditions in the far south of england. it also brings in clear air with it. here is the weather front in the south bringing clad with it stop drier weather and a lot of sunshine. note the temperatures. they are coming down. if you are wondering about the weekend by frost in the north on friday and thrust across southern scotland and the north of england on saturday and then it will turn milder and saturday and then it will turn milderand rain saturday and then it will turn milder and rain comes in from the atlantic. today's the day for william shatner. in a few hours, the actor famous for playing captain james t kirk in star trek will boldly go where only a few men and women have been before. space. or at least the edge of space. at 90 years old, he'll become the oldest person ever to fly into orbit when he joins three others on board the blue origins new shepard rocket, owned by the us billionairejeff bezos. our correspondent sophie long has been following his final preparations. i'm going into space. i don't know how many people can say that. it's life changing in its way. interest in space exploration has waned over the last few decades. the fact that william shatner is making this journey has renewed some of that sense of wonder. there is an adventure in my life that i would not have had i not done this. and it looks like there's a great deal of curiosity about this fictional character, captain kirk, going into space. for those who never watched an episode of star trek, here's why. captain kirk is possibly one of the most known, iconic mythological characters in our sort of collective pop culture. the idea that the man who portrayed this daring captain, pushing us to the limits of our knowledge and exploring the deepest frontiers of space gets to go into space himself, itjust makes me laugh. i wish william shatner the best of luck on his voyage. it's reignited interest in space travel and also in the series that broke so many boundaries all those decades ago. in the original series, you had a black woman and asian—american man in space during the civil rights movement. in its way star trek has always pushed a more progressive vision of inclusion, whatever the conversation is at the time, it pushes that forward. it says, look at what he could do if we work together! over the years, trekkers and trekkies have found much to bond over, including their own language. i was hoping i might be able to learn a few phrases. do you think that's a bit ambitious or not? i think, if you have the desire, then we can make it happen. as it happens here and now, you have your very own personal klingon language coach. how about, this might be a nice one... he's going to be a rocket man. he speaks klingon. becoming a rocket man. so say g. now say g, g, g, g. g, g, g. now make blade of your hand and lightly, because i don't know what the bbc insurance is like. lightly g, g, g bounce it against your throat. ger, ger, ger, ger. you're doing it. that is the sound. becoming a rocket man. i'm confident i'll be able to practise that one. a little more tricky than i thought. if all goes according to plan, he won't be exploring strange new worlds or making contact with new life forms. william shatner�*s historic flight to space will be extraordinary for science, for culture, for the future of space travel and for him. we're just at the beginning but how miraculous that beginning is! how extraordinary it is to be part of that beginning. there is this mystique of being in space and that much closer to the stars and being weightless. i shall be entranced by the view of space. sophie long, bbc news, west texas. there will be a lot of people very excited about this trip. captain james t kirk actually goes into space. at the age of... 90. he is 90 years old. so many wonderful things about this story. william shatner is quite a character. over the years he has done all sorts of things. music. of course famous. tracking cell. the last time we spoke to him was 2016 and he spoke to our correspondent, colin paterson. i and he spoke to our correspondent, colin paterson.— colin paterson. i was 'ust going to ask, colin paterson. i was 'ust going to ask. would — colin paterson. i was 'ust going to ask. would you b colin paterson. i was 'ust going to ask, would you ask_ colin paterson. i wasjust going to ask, would you ask william - colin paterson. i wasjust going to. ask, would you ask william shatner if he would indulge us with giving some of captain kirk's old instructions? some of the old school instructions? some of the old school instructions he used to give on the desk. ., , , , ., desk. charlie is requesting you could give _ desk. charlie is requesting you could give some _ desk. charlie is requesting you could give some of _ desk. charlie is requesting you could give some of the - desk. charlie is requesting you could give some of the old... | desk. charlie is requesting you | could give some of the old... is could give some of the old... charlie could give some of the old... is charlie there? what are you doing there _ charlie there? what are you doing there and — charlie there? what are you doing there and not— charlie there? what are you doing there and not here? _ charlie there? what are you doing there and not here? he— charlie there? what are you doing there and not here?— charlie there? what are you doing there and not here? he would love some of the _ there and not here? he would love some of the old _ there and not here? he would love some of the old school— there and not here? he would love | some of the old school instructions. here comes— some of the old school instructions. here comes the alien. 0h, some of the old school instructions. here comes the alien. oh, no. do that, charlie. look at and say, it is going to eat me. and now full down, charlie. great. do, is going to eat me. and now full down, charlie. great.— down, charlie. great. a surreal moment- _ down, charlie. great. a surreal moment. colin, _ down, charlie. great. a surreal moment. colin, thank- down, charlie. great. a surreal moment. colin, thank you. - down, charlie. great. a surreal- moment. colin, thank you. fantastic seeino moment. colin, thank you. fantastic seeing him- — moment. colin, thank you. fantastic seeing him. that _ moment. colin, thank you. fantastic seeing him. that is _ moment. colin, thank you. fantastic seeing him. that is when _ moment. colin, thank you. fantastic seeing him. that is when they - moment. colin, thank you. fantastic seeing him. that is when they had i seeing him. that is when they had rhian create _ seeing him. that is when they had rhian create -- _ seeing him. that is when they had rhian create -- recreated - seeing him. that is when they had rhian create -- recreated the - rhian create —— recreated the starship enterprise bridge. they had recreated the bridge of the enterprise, his spaceship, and he was sitting in the captain's chair. obviously having the time of his life. we had to assume he is not captain of this particular space vessel. let's hope not! we were checking timings earlier. what time is it? half past two this afternoon is it? half past two this afternoon is left. after a couple of days delay because the weather has not been very good for that there had been very good for that there had been concerns about safety. he was laughing about it yesterday saying, they are very worried about us. his friends call him a bit of a cowboy. likes being scared. he has a track record in the music industry which is why he became friends. we will hopefully speak to the guest later, ben folds, later. in among joking and delight he is giving people, i am sure he is taking it pretty seriously. i do not know. he looks unafraid. i reckon he is cool as a cucumber. as ben was saying, he calls him, bill. bill, my friend, is a brave match oh valour. he likes being afraid likes being scared. if you want to follow it, you can follow the live stream 90 minutes before the launch on the new origins website and you will be able to watch it happen live. unbelievable. let's have a look at some of the papers. the i is leading on the chaos at felixstowe port. warning that good christmas will be among those affected. the telegraph reports on warning from the united states that older adults should not take daily doses of aspirin to reduce risk of heart attacks or strokes. the risks of side effects outweigh potential benefits. the nhs has not changed its advice. hundreds of people could die in floods in the uk unless urgent action is taken to tackle climate change that has a report in the times. the environmental agency warns the country needs to adapt or die. lastly, let's have a look at the daily mirror, leading with this picture of the prime minister. it is a picture of him painting. he is on holiday in marbella, you will know that. having fun is the headline. borisjohnson is giving the country the brushoff. following a highly critical report into the government's handling of the pandemic which came out yesterday. sheuey pandemic which came out yesterday. shelley had a look at the inside of the newspapers? a gorgeous picture to share with everyone don't remember, fox's glacier mints. that is the real—life version. is the real life version. how adorable is that?! a bit like the advert. a serious point being made on a day when we are talking about climate change committee see a polar bear having a rest on an iceberg which is rather smaller than it should be. a story from the sun. snakes on a plane, snakes in bladders. this is laura tranter who went to the toilet in the early hours of the morning and found a four foot — in the early hours of the morning and found a fourfoot — in in the early hours of the morning and found a four foot — in the toilet bowl. this is in stourbridge! he was stuck in the toilet and they managed to get it free by using washing—up liquid. wake up, went to the toilet and it was there. i nearly sat on it because it's head was resting on the seat. you can see the image there. it's not what you want to see in the early hours of the morning. apparently everything was all right. i think it might have escaped, a pet snake. there is no accounting for it directly. there is no one in the house who normally keeps a snake. it is not clear whether snake came from, apart from the toilet, which is not terribly reassuring. the stuff of nightmares, isn't it? shall i distract us? a picture here. the pictures belong to a lady called jean grey, his father was the custodian of stonehenge in the 1930s. she remembers being allowed to play and use stonehenge as her playground. isn't that incredible?! thejob of a as her playground. isn't that incredible?! the job of a custodian would be to keep it secure and in good condition. clearly holding parties and picnics as well. time now to get the news, travel and weather where you are. good morning, i'm sonja jessup. homeless charities in london are warning higher numbers of women face being on the streets this winter, as some of the government's support schemes, such as furlough and the eviction ban, come to an end. some shelters have already seen a rise in women needing temporary accomodation. the new horizon youth centre in the kings cross area says requests for help have more than doubled in a year. compared to last summer, there was around 10% of young people who accessed our services were young women. that's drastically increased this year, so it's now at 35%. approaching us for a wide range of reasons, so increasing violence situations throughout the pandemic. more young women that are losing theirjobs as a result of the pandemic and therefore unable to manage independently and finding themselves in situations of homelessness. the government says tackling homelessness remains an absolute priority and an unprecedented £750 million is being spent this year. a woman has been injured in a blaze at a block of flats in battersea. the building in westbridge road was evacuated after a flat on the 20th floor caught light. the woman left before crews arrived and was treated for breathing in smoke. police say they've stepped up patrols after a spate of bike robberies in the richmond park. police say they've stepped up patrols after a spate of bike robberies in the richmond park. there have been three reports of thefts of the past week. there are concerns that some of london's green spaces are becoming a dumping ground for unwanted exotic pets. two turtles were spotted in the lakes in bushy park in south west london as well as a giant crab. and a large lobster was recently pulled out of the ladies pond in hampstead heath. let's take a look at how the tube is running this morning... there's no overground running between edmonton green and enfield town. it's after the train derailment yesterday. other lines running as normal. onto the weather now. good morning. we are still looking at a largely settled day today. high pressure still centred to the south—west of the uk but it is dragging in a little more cloud. one or two spots, a bright start this morning further east. quickly the cloud will move in from the west. the cloud enough to produce in part one or two spots of rain. gradually dry as we head through the afternoon. largely over because throughout, maybe one or two brighter spells. temperatures today reaching a maximum of 17 celsius. not feeling too chilly at all. overnight we will hang on to the cloud. it should however stay largely dry — one or two breaks in the cloud leading to one or two clearer spells. minimum temperature somewhere between 8 and 10 celsius in central london. thursday again it is looking largely cloudy. you can see the high pressure slowly slipping away. the wind strengthens on thursday afternoon and we will see more clout as we head overnight. that is a cold front. it might linger into friday morning but gradually clearing to a brighter afternoon on friday. introduces some chilly air. much more on our website now, though. back to charlie and sally. bye for now. good morning, welcome to breakfast with charlie stayt and sally nugent. our headlines today. care staff crisis — a shortfall of 100,000 workers in the sector means people are not getting the help they need and the number of vacancies is rising. there are fears about christmas stock shortages as the port of felixstowe struggles with a backlog of shipping containers. a friendship forged in tragedy — the mother of a teenage girl who died of a drug overdose is teaming up with the mother of the boy who supplied the mdma, in the fight against illegal drugs. good morning. an important world cup qualifying for scotland, but england can only manage a against hungary. the actor mark gatiss has plans for christmas — and they're a bit more spooky than festive. he's on the sofa later in the show. good morning. a chilly start to the day. temperatures close to freezing in east anglia. a cloudy day ahead. some sunny breaks. details coming up. good morning. it's wednesday, the 13th of october. our top story. care companies are struggling to recruit enough people — and there's a shortfall of more than 100,000 staff in england. people are having to wait longer for care. a new report says there are now more vacantjobs than before the pandemic, and that the mandatory vaccination policy could prompt even more resignations. with more on this, here's our social affairs editor, alison holt. so nurses have been up today, the bandages were too tight but they are all right now? yeah, they're fine. this visit to 103—year—old margaret will help her with her lunch and personal care. she has recently returned home after a four—week stay in hospital. how do you feel about being home now, rather than being in hospital? oh, i am glad to be home, definitely. after four weeks away. the amount of support she needs has increased, but here in buckinghamshire finding enough staff to cover all the demand for home care is now extremely difficult. it means care supervisor charlotte and manager vicky are having to step in to fill gaps in the rota. we are struggling for staff at the moment, so i'm finding, i think last week, every night i think i was out doing one or two care calls. we do have to pick up the phone and change times, we do have to be creative with the care that we provide. and until we can get some more people through the door to support us with that, then that's the way things will have to stay. there you go. today's report says whilst recruitment of care staff improved during the lockdowns, absence because of sickness has doubled and staff vacancies are now rising steadily, with existing staff exhausted and much better pay on offer elsewhere. how many sicknesses have we had today? the doctor who runs this care company also worked on hospital wards helping to discharge patients during the pandemic. with such a shortage of care staff in the community, he worries about the knock—on effect on the nhs. we normally are having to turn down eight new patients a day because we don't have the capacity of staff to be able to help them. for us to be in this position before the winter, before the christmas period, is terrifying. so looking after patients now is hard. can you imagine when the winter comes, when the cold weather comes, people will become more unwell? the government says it is running regular recruitment campaigns and is putting an extra £500 million into training and developing the skills of care staff. alison holt, bbc news. the brexit minister lord frost has proposed major changes to the northern ireland protocol. that's the deal which means goods travelling between northern ireland and the republic aren't subject to border checks. the protocol was agreed by the uk and the european union during brexit negotiations but has since faced criticism. let's speak to our brussels correspondentjessica parker. morning. how are eu members going to react to this?— react to this? well, following david frost's speech _ react to this? well, following david frost's speech yesterday, - react to this? well, following david frost's speech yesterday, i - react to this? well, following david frost's speech yesterday, i don't i frost's speech yesterday, i don't find frost's speech yesterday, idon't find that— frost's speech yesterday, i don't find that many people around here particularly liked what he had to say. particularly liked what he had to say he — particularly liked what he had to say. he was obviously setting out significant — say. he was obviously setting out significant demands for change to the northern ireland protocol. he also made — the northern ireland protocol. he also made comments such as saying that it _ also made comments such as saying that it seems sometimes the eu didn't— that it seems sometimes the eu didn't want britain to succeed. but regardless — didn't want britain to succeed. but regardless of all of that, let's focus — regardless of all of that, let's focus on _ regardless of all of that, let's focus on the fact that today the european — focus on the fact that today the european union will come forward with its— european union will come forward with its response to the uk's demands— with its response to the uk's demands for changes to the northern ireland _ demands for changes to the northern ireland protocol. and what we expect to see _ ireland protocol. and what we expect to see is _ ireland protocol. and what we expect to see is an _ ireland protocol. and what we expect to see is an offer of significant reductions to checks on products going _ reductions to checks on products going from great britain to northern ireland, _ going from great britain to northern ireland, allowing the continued import— ireland, allowing the continued imporl as — ireland, allowing the continued import as well of chilled meats, so people _ import as well of chilled meats, so people may have seen some headlines around _ people may have seen some headlines around the _ people may have seen some headlines around the sausages, that is one that links — around the sausages, that is one that links to. and as well they want to look— that links to. and as well they want to look at— that links to. and as well they want to look at ensuring the free flow of medicines— to look at ensuring the free flow of medicines and greater democratic participation from people and stakeholders in northern ireland. that will— stakeholders in northern ireland. that will be the greatest ? where the big _ that will be the greatest ? where the big offer later today from the european — the big offer later today from the european union. they see it as a significant — european union. they see it as a significant offer, that they have gone _ significant offer, that they have gone quite a long way to try to alleviate — gone quite a long way to try to alleviate some of the issues in northern— alleviate some of the issues in northern ireland. but i think politically for them what they will want to _ politically for them what they will want to sell it as it is a set of practical— want to sell it as it is a set of practical solutions for the people of northern ireland. they want wanted — of northern ireland. they want wanted to be seen as a package of measures— wanted to be seen as a package of measures or concessions to downing street _ street. jessica, thank street. — jessica, thank you. ships are being diverted away from the uk's largest commercial port because of a backlog of containers. the port of felixstowe, which handles more than a third of the uk's container traffic, said the ongoing shortage of hgv drivers was partly to blame, as graham satchell reports. a logjam at felixstowe, the uk's biggest commercial port. the situation is so serious some larger ships are being re—routed to other ports in europe. morning, mate. how are you doing? morning. i'm 0k. you? adam runs a haulage firm with 85 lorries. instead of taking empty containers back to felixstowe as normal, he's had to take them to liverpool as there is no space. there is a massive backlog of deliveries created by the driver shortage, brexit and a number of other things. it has just all created a perfect storm. in normal circumstances it takes two or three days for a container to be collected and driven away once it has been unloaded to the dock. the so—called dwell time is now closer to ten days. the worry now is what impact all this will have on christmas. will there be a shortage of toys and other gifts this year? i think that there will be some disruption this christmas as a result of the hgv shortage. but retailers are really adept at making sure that they prioritise the things people want, making sure that people's christmas favourites are available to buy. there are difficulties in the supply chain in other countries, america and china. this is a global problem. the government says it is working closely with the freight industry to work through the challenges. graham satchell, bbc news. the football association is investigating crowd trouble among hundreds of fans during last night's world cup qualifier between england and hungry and wobbly. the metropolitan police say officers were attacked when they arrested a spectator for allegedly racially abusing a steward. hungary fans booed as the teams took the knee. one fan held up a banner expressing opposition to the antiracism gesture. an expert panel in the united states has cast doubt on the benefits of prescribing aspirin daily as a way to reduce the risk of heart attacks and stroke. the preventive services task force says that the potential benefits are outweighed by an increased risk of internal bleeding. the nhs says that most people aged 16 or over can safely take low—dose aspirin if it's recommended by their doctor. short courses in science and technology will be offered to adults in england, as part of the government's plans to increase skills in the workplace. its a modest addition to a wider programme of educational reform, including introducing qualifications called t levels for 16 to 18—year—olds. branwen bra nwen jeffreys reports. ministers want to build a new approach to skills in england. and michelle donelan is in charge of making it work. this building is being turned into swindon's institute of technology. short courses in science and technology will be on offer, top—ups for adults already in work. we know that people do four or five jobs in one lifetime nowadays. and there are jobs that will be around in a year's time that potentially are not very today, so we need an education system that is flexible and nimble and can cope with that and enable people to progress in their careers. if i can ask you to put your bed at a 30 degree angle. but this is a far bigger change. some of the first t level students, studying health care hands—on at college. their one t level is the equivalent of three a—levels. i struggle with writing things down and remembering it like that. i'm a very, like — i see things visibly and remember a lot easier. so that was what drew me to the course most. i'm quite a shy person, but like i think as i'd like work with more people and i talk to more people, i will come out of that shell and i'll become more confident with everything. i think a t level is probably the best option because, like i said, the facilities are great and it's more hands—on, so it teaches you better skills than btec would. t levels involve a lot of hands—on learning. but the students will also get a 45 day work placement, and they have to do that in order to complete a t level. but as more t levels are added in other subjects, the plan is to withdraw funding from some btecs. it's controversial. btecs are a proven route to success. but ministers argue it's needed to avoid duplication. branwenjeffreys, bbc news, swindon. if you entered last night's euromillions draw, the bad news is you didn't win it. here is the good news, nobody else did. that means the record jackpot _ news, nobody else did. that means the record jackpot of _ news, nobody else did. that means the record jackpot of £184 - news, nobody else did. that means the record jackpot of £184 million i the record jackpot of £184 million will be available again on friday. it won't get any bigger. it has reached its maximum level. 184 million. that means, carol, that our plans could still happen. if one of us wins what are we going to do? we are going to vegas. possibly by saturday. i are going to vegas. possibly by saturda . ., , ~ are going to vegas. possibly by saturda . ., , ,, ., , saturday. i was thinking it was aooin to saturday. i was thinking it was going to be — saturday. i was thinking it was going to be something - saturday. i was thinking it was going to be something a - saturday. i was thinking it was going to be something a little| saturday. i was thinking it was i going to be something a little bit bigger than that, than a trip to vegas. also, would you both walk? if you find out right now, would you just go? you find out right now, would you 'ust lo? ., .y just go? probably. if we had - just go? probably. if we had a - just go? probably. i if we had a syndicate just go? probably. - if we had a syndicate we just go? probably. _ if we had a syndicate we could all just go. they would be nobody on here tomorrow morning! just thinking! you have to do it to be with a good morning. it is a chilly start to the day today. clear skies by night in east anglia, temperatures fell to close to freezing. a fair bit of cloud around today and some mist and fog. some of us seeing beautiful sunrises. as we go through today there will be a lot of cloud around. they will be some breaks across parts of the midlands, in through wales, northern england. the front that brought the rain to scotland when i clearing. you can see how it extends back. before it completely clears you could see the odd spot of rain. after blue skies first thing this morning in east anglia, and south—west england, the cloud will build through the day and you could see the yard shower. temperatures 12 to 17 degrees with the showers continuing notjust today in the north—west, but this evening and as well. the wind blowing in on the south—westerly breeze. tonight, a lot of cloud. some clear skies. not a cold night for most. where the cloud remains broken for long enough, temperatures will be slightly lower than you can see here. by the end of the night of the winds will strengthen across the far north of scotland ahead of this weather front coming our way which is going to introduce heavy rain through the course of tomorrow. here it comes, bringing the rain across northern scotland, getting to the borders by the end of the day and also in across parts of northern ireland. forthe also in across parts of northern ireland. for the rest of england and wales fairly cloudy. again there will be some spots of rain here and they are from that cloud. one thing you will notice is behind the band of rain that the showers in the far north of scotland. i'm off to buy a ticket. do it! fingers crossed. 7:13am. let's return _ do it! fingers crossed. 7:13am. let's return to _ do it! fingers crossed. 7:13am. let's return to our _ do it! fingers crossed. 7:13am. let's return to our main - do it! fingers crossed. 7:13am. let's return to our main story. | do it! fingers crossed. 7:13am. | let's return to our main story. it is about the problems being caused by another skills shortage, this time in the care sector. a report out today says there are more than 100,000 vacancies in england. let's speak now to vic rayner, chief executive of the national care forum, and scott marsh, who runs your home care in nottinghamshire. scott, i wonder if we could start with you. this is all about how this feels out of the sharp end and that's what you do. just to give people a sense, you run a home respite dementia support for people. how is this shortage impacting what you are able to do?— you are able to do? yeah, firstly, thank you — you are able to do? yeah, firstly, thank you for— you are able to do? yeah, firstly, thank you for having _ you are able to do? yeah, firstly, thank you for having us. - you are able to do? yeah, firstly, thank you for having us. we - you are able to do? yeah, firstly, thank you for having us. we and l thank you for having us. we and other— thank you for having us. we and other home care providers across the land are _ other home care providers across the land are finding it very difficult and we're _ land are finding it very difficult and we're experiencing several challenges. these include sickness, isolation _ challenges. these include sickness, isolation and just staff in general. staffing _ isolation and just staff in general. staffing levels have significantly reduced. to give you an example, we would _ reduced. to give you an example, we would normally have seven, eight, nine, _ would normally have seven, eight, nine, ten _ would normally have seven, eight, nine, ten people on an induction. at the moment— nine, ten people on an induction. at the moment we are having two or three _ the moment we are having two or three it — the moment we are having two or three it is — the moment we are having two or three. it is hard. it is not good. and _ three. it is hard. it is not good. and how— three. it is hard. it is not good. and how is _ three. it is hard. it is not good. and how is that impacting the care that you are able to offer? foretell. that you are able to offer? well, ou that you are able to offer? well, you know. _ that you are able to offer? well, you know. we — that you are able to offer? well, you know, we have _ that you are able to offer? well, you know, we have got - that you are able to offer? well, you know, we have got a - that you are able to offer? well, - you know, we have got a workforce, we employ — you know, we have got a workforce, we employ about 40 people. we have a waiting _ we employ about 40 people. we have a waiting list— we employ about 40 people. we have a waiting list of around 500 hours that is— waiting list of around 500 hours that is currently on there. and we are turning — that is currently on there. and we are turning away probably an enquiry per day _ are turning away probably an enquiry per day we — are turning away probably an enquiry per day. we know of other providers in the _ per day. we know of other providers in the area _ per day. we know of other providers in the area that have tended to terminate _ in the area that have tended to terminate care packages because they are having _ terminate care packages because they are having such poor staff shortages. they can't responsibly take care — shortages. they can't responsibly take care of vulnerable adults. it is very— take care of vulnerable adults. it is very worrying. we are doing 0k is very worrying. we are doing ok but we _ is very worrying. we are doing ok but we are — is very worrying. we are doing ok but we are still finding it very challenging. but we are still finding it very challenging-— but we are still finding it very challenging. the krainer, 'ust listenino challenging. the krainer, 'ust listening tofi challenging. the krainer, 'ust listening to what i challenging. the krainer, 'ust listening to what scott h challenging. the krainer, 'ust listening to what scott is h challenging. the krainer, just i listening to what scott is saying there. —— ve krainer. is that a familiar story to you? is this a problem across the country? yeah, absolutely- — problem across the country? yeah, absolutely. scott's _ problem across the country? yeah, absolutely. scott's story _ problem across the country? yeah, absolutely. scott's story is - problem across the country? yeah, absolutely. scott's story is very - absolutely. scott's story is very familiar~ — absolutely. scott's story is very familiar. and _ absolutely. scott's story is very familiar. and in— absolutely. scott's story is very familiar. and in some - absolutely. scott's story is very familiar. and in some parts - absolutely. scott's story is very familiar. and in some parts of. absolutely. scott's story is very. familiar. and in some parts of the country— familiar. and in some parts of the country the — familiar. and in some parts of the country the challenges _ familiar. and in some parts of the country the challenges are - familiar. and in some parts of the country the challenges are even i familiar. and in some parts of the - country the challenges are even more extreme _ country the challenges are even more extreme for— country the challenges are even more extreme fora— country the challenges are even more extreme. for a variety— country the challenges are even more extreme. for a variety of— country the challenges are even more extreme. for a variety of reasons. - country the challenges are even more extreme. for a variety of reasons. i. extreme. for a variety of reasons. i think— extreme. for a variety of reasons. i think particularly— extreme. for a variety of reasons. i think particularly the _ extreme. for a variety of reasons. i think particularly the ones - extreme. for a variety of reasons. i think particularly the ones that - think particularly the ones that scott _ think particularly the ones that scott has — think particularly the ones that scott has mentioned _ think particularly the ones that scott has mentioned about. think particularly the ones that scott has mentioned about the think particularly the ones that - scott has mentioned about the sort of pressure — scott has mentioned about the sort of pressure on _ scott has mentioned about the sort of pressure on existing _ scott has mentioned about the sort of pressure on existing staff. - scott has mentioned about the sort of pressure on existing staff. so . of pressure on existing staff. so not only— of pressure on existing staff. so not only is— of pressure on existing staff. so not only is it _ of pressure on existing staff. so not only is it difficult _ of pressure on existing staff. so not only is it difficult to - of pressure on existing staff. so not only is it difficult to recruit i not only is it difficult to recruit new _ not only is it difficult to recruit new staff, _ not only is it difficult to recruit new staff, it _ not only is it difficult to recruit new staff, it has _ not only is it difficult to recruit new staff, it has been- not only is it difficult to recruit - new staff, it has been increasingly difficult _ new staff, it has been increasingly difficult to — new staff, it has been increasingly difficult to retain _ new staff, it has been increasingly difficult to retain those _ new staff, it has been increasingly difficult to retain those staff, - difficult to retain those staff, many — difficult to retain those staff, many of _ difficult to retain those staff, many of whom _ difficult to retain those staff, many of whom have - difficult to retain those staff, many of whom have worked i difficult to retain those staff, - many of whom have worked incredibly hard through — many of whom have worked incredibly hard through the _ many of whom have worked incredibly hard through the last _ many of whom have worked incredibly hard through the last 18 _ many of whom have worked incredibly hard through the last 18 months - many of whom have worked incredibly hard through the last 18 months and i hard through the last 18 months and are seeing _ hard through the last 18 months and are seeing a — hard through the last 18 months and are seeing a harsh _ hard through the last 18 months and are seeing a harsh winter— hard through the last 18 months and are seeing a harsh winter ahead. - hard through the last 18 months and| are seeing a harsh winter ahead. and are seeing a harsh winter ahead. and are seeing— are seeing a harsh winter ahead. and are seeing more _ are seeing a harsh winter ahead. and are seeing more attractive _ are seeing a harsh winter ahead. and are seeing more attractive salaries i are seeing more attractive salaries in other— are seeing more attractive salaries in other parts— are seeing more attractive salaries in other parts of— are seeing more attractive salaries in other parts of the _ are seeing more attractive salaries in other parts of the sector. - are seeing more attractive salaries in other parts of the sector. the i in other parts of the sector. the price _ in other parts of the sector. the price of— in other parts of the sector. the price of the _ in other parts of the sector. the price of the community, - in other parts of the sector. the price of the community, never. in other parts of the sector. the - price of the community, never mind the health— price of the community, never mind the health and — price of the community, never mind the health and care _ price of the community, never mind the health and care sector. - price of the community, never mind the health and care sector. and - price of the community, never mind the health and care sector. and are| the health and care sector. and are moving _ the health and care sector. and are moving away — the health and care sector. and are moving away this _ the health and care sector. and are moving away. this is— the health and care sector. and are moving away. this is a _ the health and care sector. and are moving away. this is a very - moving away. this is a very significant _ moving away. this is a very significant loss— moving away. this is a very significant loss of— moving away. this is a very significant loss of skills - moving away. this is a veryj significant loss of skills and expertise _ significant loss of skills and expertise from _ significant loss of skills and expertise from the - significant loss of skills and expertise from the care - significant loss of skills and - expertise from the care sector, one that we _ expertise from the care sector, one that we can't— expertise from the care sector, one that we can't afford _ expertise from the care sector, one that we can't afford to _ expertise from the care sector, one that we can't afford to do. - expertise from the care sector, one that we can't afford to do.— expertise from the care sector, one that we can't afford to do. when you set extreme. — that we can't afford to do. when you set extreme, what _ that we can't afford to do. when you set extreme, what are _ that we can't afford to do. when you set extreme, what are the _ set extreme, what are the consequences of running at this level so understaffed? i consequences of running at this level so understaffed?- consequences of running at this level so understaffed? i think there are a level so understaffed? ! think there are a number— level so understaffed? ! think there are a number of— level so understaffed? i think there are a number of different _ are a number of different consequences. _ are a number of different consequences. you - are a number of different - consequences. you mentioned the skills— consequences. you mentioned the skills and — consequences. you mentioned the skills and care _ consequences. you mentioned the skills and care report, _ consequences. you mentioned the skills and care report, the - consequences. you mentioned the| skills and care report, the sickness rates _ skills and care report, the sickness rates have — skills and care report, the sickness rates have doubled. _ skills and care report, the sickness rates have doubled. —— _ skills and care report, the sickness rates have doubled. —— skills- skills and care report, the sickness rates have doubled. —— skills in- rates have doubled. —— skills in care _ rates have doubled. —— skills in care that— rates have doubled. —— skills in care. that means _ rates have doubled. —— skills in care. that means there - rates have doubled. —— skills in care. that means there are - rates have doubled. —— skills in. care. that means there are more people _ care. that means there are more people suffering _ care. that means there are more people suffering within _ care. that means there are more people suffering within the - care. that means there are more. people suffering within the sector. whether— people suffering within the sector. whether that — people suffering within the sector. whether that is _ people suffering within the sector. whether that is through _ people suffering within the sector. whether that is through mental. whether that is through mental health. — whether that is through mental health, physical— whether that is through mental health, physical health, - whether that is through mental health, physical health, covid i health, physical health, covid related— health, physical health, covid related illness _ health, physical health, covid related illness dotmacro - health, physical health, covid related illness dotmacro the i related illness dotmacro the knock-on _ related illness dotmacro the knock—on application - related illness dotmacro the knock—on application for- related illness dotmacro thei knock—on application for that related illness dotmacro the i knock—on application for that is related illness dotmacro the - knock—on application for that is for those _ knock—on application for that is for those staff— knock—on application for that is for those staff who _ knock—on application for that is for those staff who are _ knock—on application for that is for those staff who are having - knock—on application for that is for those staff who are having to - knock—on application for that is for those staff who are having to work| those staff who are having to work extra _ those staff who are having to work extra hours. — those staff who are having to work extra hours, having _ those staff who are having to work extra hours, having to _ those staff who are having to work extra hours, having to cover - extra hours, having to cover additional— extra hours, having to cover additional shifts, _ extra hours, having to cover additional shifts, we - extra hours, having to cover additional shifts, we know. extra hours, having to cover i additional shifts, we know that extra hours, having to cover - additional shifts, we know that what is happening — additional shifts, we know that what is happening is _ additional shifts, we know that what is happening is that _ additional shifts, we know that what is happening is that managers- additional shifts, we know that what is happening is that managers who i is happening is that managers who are supposed — is happening is that managers who are supposed to _ is happening is that managers who are supposed to be _ is happening is that managers who are supposed to be making - is happening is that managers who are supposed to be making no- are supposed to be making no strategic— are supposed to be making no strategic decisions _ are supposed to be making no strategic decisions about - strategic decisions about organisations, _ strategic decisions about organisations, having. strategic decisions about organisations, having to| strategic decisions about i organisations, having to go strategic decisions about - organisations, having to go to the front— organisations, having to go to the front line — organisations, having to go to the front line. that _ organisations, having to go to the front line. that is _ organisations, having to go to the front line. that is pulling - organisations, having to go to the front line. that is pulling away- front line. that is pulling away people — front line. that is pulling away people who _ front line. that is pulling away people who should _ front line. that is pulling away people who should be - front line. that is pulling away people who should be making | front line. that is pulling away- people who should be making planning and other— people who should be making planning and other decisions. _ people who should be making planning and other decisions. and _ people who should be making planning and other decisions. and of— people who should be making planning and other decisions. and of course - and other decisions. and of course the biggest — and other decisions. and of course the biggest knock—on— and other decisions. and of course the biggest knock—on implication. and other decisions. and of coursel the biggest knock—on implication is for those _ the biggest knock—on implication is for those people _ the biggest knock—on implication is for those people who _ the biggest knock—on implication is for those people who need - the biggest knock—on implication is for those people who need and - the biggest knock—on implication isi for those people who need and want support— for those people who need and want support right — for those people who need and want support right now _ for those people who need and want support right now. the _ for those people who need and want support right now. the story- for those people who need and want support right now. the story that . support right now. the story that scott _ support right now. the story that scott has — support right now. the story that scott has told _ support right now. the story that scott has told very— support right now. the story that scott has told very effectively, i scott has told very effectively, that 500 — scott has told very effectively, that 500 hours _ scott has told very effectively, that 500 hours of _ scott has told very effectively, that 500 hours of care - scott has told very effectively, that 500 hours of care waiting | scott has told very effectively, i that 500 hours of care waiting to scott has told very effectively, - that 500 hours of care waiting to be delivered, _ that 500 hours of care waiting to be delivered, that _ that 500 hours of care waiting to be delivered, that its _ that 500 hours of care waiting to be delivered, that its people. - that 500 hours of care waiting to be delivered, that its people. and - that 500 hours of care waiting to be delivered, that its people. and that| delivered, that its people. and that is people _ delivered, that its people. and that is people who — delivered, that its people. and that is people who are _ delivered, that its people. and that is people who are either— delivered, that its people. and that is people who are either waiting - is people who are either waiting within— is people who are either waiting within hospital— is people who are either waiting within hospital to— is people who are either waiting within hospital to be _ is people who are either waiting i within hospital to be discharged, is people who are either waiting . within hospital to be discharged, or it is families — within hospital to be discharged, or it is families within _ within hospital to be discharged, or it is families within communities i it is families within communities and people — it is families within communities and people within _ it is families within communities and people within the _ it is families within communitiesl and people within the community it is families within communities - and people within the community who need that— and people within the community who need that care — and people within the community who need that care. that _ and people within the community who need that care. that is _ and people within the community who need that care. that is putting - need that care. that is putting enormous _ need that care. that is putting enormous pressure _ need that care. that is putting enormous pressure on - need that care. that is putting enormous pressure on those i need that care. that is putting - enormous pressure on those families and unpaid _ enormous pressure on those families and unpaid carers~ _ enormous pressure on those families and unpaid carers. you _ enormous pressure on those families and unpaid carers.— and unpaid carers. you are absolutely _ and unpaid carers. you are absolutely right _ and unpaid carers. you are absolutely right to - and unpaid carers. you are| absolutely right to focusing and unpaid carers. you are - absolutely right to focusing on the individuals and those people who, today, as scott said, might need to care but can't get it. the government mantra at the moment is around high wages and high skills. they say there is a moment in time when we are in a catch up basis. so, let me put it to you very boldly. that's bluntly. it will be more money and they might be able to do care work. i money and they might be able to do care work. ~ , , ., money and they might be able to do care work. ,, , , ., ., , care work. i think this is a really interesting _ care work. i think this is a really interesting message _ care work. i think this is a really interesting message from - care work. i think this is a really interesting message from the i interesting message from the government _ interesting message from the government. i— interesting message from the government. i would - interesting message from the government. i would say- interesting message from the government. i would say we i interesting message from the - government. i would say we have a highly— government. i would say we have a highly skilled — government. i would say we have a highly skilled workforce. _ government. i would say we have a highly skilled workforce. so - government. i would say we have a highly skilled workforce. so i- government. i would say we have a highly skilled workforce. so i don'tl highly skilled workforce. so i don't think— highly skilled workforce. so i don't think we _ highly skilled workforce. so i don't think we are — highly skilled workforce. so i don't think we are in _ highly skilled workforce. so i don't think we are in competition - highly skilled workforce. so i don'tj think we are in competition around that agenda — think we are in competition around that agenda. however, _ think we are in competition around that agenda. however, if- think we are in competition around that agenda. however, if you - think we are in competition around that agenda. however, if you start| that agenda. however, if you start to talk— that agenda. however, if you start to talk about — that agenda. however, if you start to talk about rates _ that agenda. however, if you start to talk about rates of _ that agenda. however, if you start to talk about rates of pay, - that agenda. however, if you start to talk about rates of pay, we - that agenda. however, if you starti to talk about rates of pay, we need for government— to talk about rates of pay, we need for government to _ to talk about rates of pay, we need for government tojoin _ to talk about rates of pay, we need for government to join the - to talk about rates of pay, we need for government to join the dots. it| for government to join the dots. it is not _ for government to join the dots. it is not possible _ for government to join the dots. it is not possible for— for government to join the dots. it is not possible for care _ is not possible for care organisations- is not possible for care organisations who - is not possible for care organisations who are i is not possible for care - organisations who are delivering nearly— organisations who are delivering nearly all— organisations who are delivering nearly all of _ organisations who are delivering nearly all of adult _ organisations who are delivering nearly all of adult age _ organisations who are delivering nearly all of adult age working i organisations who are delivering i nearly all of adult age working care and for— nearly all of adult age working care and for large — nearly all of adult age working care and for large amounts _ nearly all of adult age working care and for large amounts of— nearly all of adult age working care and for large amounts of older- and for large amounts of older people's, _ and for large amounts of older people's, it— and for large amounts of older people's. it is— and for large amounts of older people's, it is being _ and for large amounts of older people's, it is being deliveredl and for large amounts of older. people's, it is being delivered by people _ people's, it is being delivered by people contracted _ people's, it is being delivered by people contracted by— people's, it is being delivered by people contracted by local- people contracted by local authorities— people contracted by local authorities who _ people contracted by local authorities who receive i people contracted by local. authorities who receive their funding _ authorities who receive their funding from _ authorities who receive their funding from the _ authorities who receive their i funding from the government. authorities who receive their - funding from the government. and unless— funding from the government. and unless authorities _ funding from the government. and unless authorities receive - funding from the government. and unless authorities receive more - unless authorities receive more money— unless authorities receive more money and _ unless authorities receive more money and i_ unless authorities receive more money and i cant— unless authorities receive more money and i cant increase - unless authorities receive more money and i cant increase the i unless authorities receive more - money and i cant increase the rates of commission— money and i cant increase the rates of commission to _ money and i cant increase the rates of commission to those _ money and i cant increase the rates of commission to those care - of commission to those care organisations, _ of commission to those care organisations, they- of commission to those care organisations, they cannot i of commission to those care i organisations, they cannot pay of commission to those care - organisations, they cannot pay their staff more — organisations, they cannot pay their staff more and _ organisations, they cannot pay their staff more. and even— organisations, they cannot pay their staff more. and even for— organisations, they cannot pay their staff more. and even for those - staff more. and even for those organisations— staff more. and even for those organisations who _ staff more. and even for those organisations who are - staff more. and even for those i organisations who are receiving, staff more. and even for those - organisations who are receiving, who are delivering — organisations who are receiving, who are delivering care _ organisations who are receiving, who are delivering care to— organisations who are receiving, who are delivering care to people - organisations who are receiving, who are delivering care to people who- are delivering care to people who pay for _ are delivering care to people who pay for their— are delivering care to people who pay for their own _ are delivering care to people who pay for their own care, _ are delivering care to people who pay for their own care, the - are delivering care to people who pay for their own care, the only. are delivering care to people who. pay for their own care, the only way they can _ pay for their own care, the only way they can increase _ pay for their own care, the only way they can increase the _ pay for their own care, the only way they can increase the wages - pay for their own care, the only way they can increase the wages is - pay for their own care, the only way they can increase the wages is to i they can increase the wages is to increase — they can increase the wages is to increase the _ they can increase the wages is to increase the rates _ they can increase the wages is to increase the rates of— they can increase the wages is to increase the rates of care, - they can increase the wages is to increase the rates of care, ratesl they can increase the wages is to i increase the rates of care, rates of pay that _ increase the rates of care, rates of pay that people _ increase the rates of care, rates of pay that people will _ increase the rates of care, rates of pay that people will need - increase the rates of care, rates of pay that people will need to - increase the rates of care, rates of pay that people will need to pay. increase the rates of care, rates of| pay that people will need to pay for their own _ pay that people will need to pay for their own care. _ pay that people will need to pay for their own care. and _ pay that people will need to pay for their own care. and of— pay that people will need to pay for their own care. and of course - pay that people will need to pay for their own care. and of course we i their own care. and of course we know, _ their own care. and of course we know. even— their own care. and of course we know. even from _ their own care. and of course we know, even from the _ their own care. and of course we i know, even from the government's their own care. and of course we - know, even from the government's on documents, _ know, even from the government's on documents, there _ know, even from the government's on documents, there is— know, even from the government's on documents, there is cross _ know, even from the government's on documents, there is cross subsidy- documents, there is cross subsidy that goes— documents, there is cross subsidy that goes on _ documents, there is cross subsidy that goes on, which— documents, there is cross subsidy that goes on, which is— documents, there is cross subsidy that goes on, which is deemed . documents, there is cross subsidy that goes on, which is deemed to| documents, there is cross subsidy. that goes on, which is deemed to be unfair— that goes on, which is deemed to be unfair and _ that goes on, which is deemed to be unfairand deemed— that goes on, which is deemed to be unfair and deemed to _ that goes on, which is deemed to be unfair and deemed to be _ that goes on, which is deemed to be unfair and deemed to be part- that goes on, which is deemed to be unfair and deemed to be part of- that goes on, which is deemed to be unfair and deemed to be part of thei unfair and deemed to be part of the future _ unfair and deemed to be part of the future reform~ _ unfair and deemed to be part of the future reform. we _ unfair and deemed to be part of the future reform. we need _ unfair and deemed to be part of the future reform. we need the - future reform. we need the government— future reform. we need the government to _ future reform. we need the government to come - future reform. we need the government to come up - future reform. we need thel government to come up with future reform. we need the - government to come up with that money— government to come up with that money in — government to come up with that money in order— government to come up with that money in order that _ government to come up with that money in order that care - government to come up with thatl money in order that care providers can do— money in order that care providers can do that — money in order that care providers can do that. and _ money in order that care providers can do that. and they— money in order that care providers can do that. and they absolutely. can do that. and they absolutely need _ can do that. and they absolutely need to— can do that. and they absolutely need to both _ can do that. and they absolutely need to both offer _ can do that. and they absolutely need to both offer a _ can do that. and they absolutely need to both offer a retention i can do that. and they absolutely- need to both offer a retention bonus to staff, _ need to both offer a retention bonus to staff, which — need to both offer a retention bonus to staff, which the _ need to both offer a retention bonus to staff, which the rest _ need to both offer a retention bonus to staff, which the rest of _ need to both offer a retention bonus to staff, which the rest of the - need to both offer a retention bonus to staff, which the rest of the uk - to staff, which the rest of the uk has done — to staff, which the rest of the uk has done in _ to staff, which the rest of the uk has done, in scotland, _ to staff, which the rest of the uk has done, in scotland, wales- to staff, which the rest of the uk| has done, in scotland, wales and northern— has done, in scotland, wales and northern ireland _ has done, in scotland, wales and northern ireland at _ has done, in scotland, wales and northern ireland at care - has done, in scotland, wales and northern ireland at care staff - has done, in scotland, wales and| northern ireland at care staff have received _ northern ireland at care staff have received a — northern ireland at care staff have received a retention _ northern ireland at care staff have received a retention bonus- northern ireland at care staff have received a retention bonus for- northern ireland at care staff have received a retention bonus for us i northern ireland at care staff have i received a retention bonus for us —— for working — received a retention bonus for us —— for working through _ received a retention bonus for us —— for working through the _ received a retention bonus for us —— for working through the pandemic, i for working through the pandemic, and we _ for working through the pandemic, and we need — for working through the pandemic, and we need a _ for working through the pandemic, and we need a pay— for working through the pandemic, and we need a pay boost _ for working through the pandemic, and we need a pay boost to - for working through the pandemic, and we need a pay boost to enable care providers, _ and we need a pay boost to enable care providers, otherwise - and we need a pay boost to enable care providers, otherwise we - and we need a pay boost to enable care providers, otherwise we are i care providers, otherwise we are losing _ care providers, otherwise we are losing valuable _ care providers, otherwise we are losing valuable staff _ care providers, otherwise we are losing valuable staff who - care providers, otherwise we are losing valuable staff who are - losing valuable staff who are heading _ losing valuable staff who are heading off— losing valuable staff who are heading off into _ losing valuable staff who are heading off into hospitality, i losing valuable staff who are - heading off into hospitality, retail and other— heading off into hospitality, retail and other parts— heading off into hospitality, retail and other parts of— heading off into hospitality, retail and other parts of the _ heading off into hospitality, retail and other parts of the health - heading off into hospitality, retail. and other parts of the health sector when _ and other parts of the health sector when we _ and other parts of the health sector when we need _ and other parts of the health sector when we need them _ and other parts of the health sector when we need them right— and other parts of the health sector when we need them right now- and other parts of the health sector when we need them right now to. and other parts of the health sector| when we need them right now to be and other parts of the health sector. when we need them right now to be in care and _ when we need them right now to be in care and to _ when we need them right now to be in care and to stay — when we need them right now to be in care and to stay in _ when we need them right now to be in care and to stay in care. _ when we need them right now to be in care and to stay in care.— care and to stay in care. scott, you mentioned — care and to stay in care. scott, you mentioned that _ care and to stay in care. scott, you mentioned that there _ care and to stay in care. scott, you mentioned that there are - care and to stay in care. scott, you mentioned that there are at - care and to stay in care. scott, you mentioned that there are at the i mentioned that there are at the moment around 500 people waiting for help, waiting for support, waiting for care. what sort of circumstances might those people be in. ——? what sort of help do they need? i might those people be in. --? what sort of help do they need?— sort of help do they need? i think aenerall sort of help do they need? i think generally complex _ sort of help do they need? i think generally complex care _ sort of help do they need? i think generally complex care needs, i generally complex care needs, including — generally complex care needs, including medication and personal care _ including medication and personal care we — including medication and personal care. we take phone calls on a weekly— care. we take phone calls on a weekly basis with people in tears. family— weekly basis with people in tears. family members, clients themselves, loved _ family members, clients themselves, loved ones _ family members, clients themselves, loved ones. we as a team, that takes an effect— loved ones. we as a team, that takes an effect on— loved ones. we as a team, that takes an effect on us. we cannot do enough about— an effect on us. we cannot do enough about it _ an effect on us. we cannot do enough about it i_ an effect on us. we cannot do enough about it. i would agree with all of the things— about it. i would agree with all of the things that they cazes said. if i could _ the things that they cazes said. if i could increase the hourly rates i would _ i could increase the hourly rates i would love — i could increase the hourly rates i would love to. but we need the local authority— would love to. but we need the local authority to — would love to. but we need the local authority to reduce that gap. we are stuck— authority to reduce that gap. we are stuck and _ authority to reduce that gap. we are stuck and we are fed up with losing staff to _ stuck and we are fed up with losing staff to other sectors and other industries. it is not fair. if we could — industries. it is not fair. if we could do— industries. it is not fair. if we could do something else about it, let's could do something else about it, lets invest — could do something else about it, let's invest in the workforce, let's make _ let's invest in the workforce, let's make sure — let's invest in the workforce, let's make sure the funding and training is in place. — make sure the funding and training is in place, but also, let's look at a professional register. england doesn't — a professional register. england doesn't do that. northern ireland, wales— doesn't do that. northern ireland, wales and — doesn't do that. northern ireland, wales and scotland do. and i think that that _ wales and scotland do. and i think that that is — wales and scotland do. and i think that that isjust wales and scotland do. and i think that that is just going to support the longer term strategy for the health— the longer term strategy for the health and social workforce. scott, can i 'ust health and social workforce. scott, can i just ask _ health and social workforce. scott, can liust ask you _ health and social workforce. scott, can i just ask you to _ health and social workforce. scott, can i just ask you to maybe - health and social workforce. scott, can i just ask you to maybe take i health and social workforce. scott, can i just ask you to maybe take it | can ijust ask you to maybe take it one step further, which is that we can talk about statistics and the numbers, you very clearly painted a picture of the stresses that are in place, but are we at a point now in terms of crisis where individuals who need care are at risk, or in danger of harm, because of these shortages?— shortages? yeah. the thing is we can't guarantee _ shortages? yeah. the thing is we can't guarantee people's - shortages? yeah. the thing is we can't guarantee people's safety i shortages? yeah. the thing is we | can't guarantee people's safety at the levels — can't guarantee people's safety at the levels we arrived at the moment. we need _ the levels we arrived at the moment. we need to— the levels we arrived at the moment. we need to take action right now. because _ we need to take action right now. because if— we need to take action right now. because if we don't, then something dangerous— because if we don't, then something dangerous is going to happen. we don't _ dangerous is going to happen. we don't want — dangerous is going to happen. we don't want to do that. we love this sector~ _ don't want to do that. we love this sector~ i_ don't want to do that. we love this sector. i want to make a personal plea _ sector. i want to make a personal plea that — sector. i want to make a personal plea that anybody who has worked in aduu plea that anybody who has worked in adult social care, please, you know, return— adult social care, please, you know, return to _ adult social care, please, you know, return to the — adult social care, please, you know, return to the sector. we need you and we _ return to the sector. we need you and we want you.— and we want you. scott, one final auestion and we want you. scott, one final question from _ and we want you. scott, one final question from me. _ and we want you. scott, one final question from me. it _ and we want you. scott, one final question from me. it takes - and we want you. scott, one final question from me. it takes a - and we want you. scott, one final i question from me. it takes a special person to do this job, doesn't it? it takes somebody with beyond skills. it takes a special person and i would imagine anybody working in the sector for the past year or two has seen some really terrible things. how hard is it to find those people? it’s things. how hard is it to find those eo le? �* , . , , things. how hard is it to find those ..eole? �*, . .y ., . people? it's incredibly hard. we em - lo people? it's incredibly hard. we employ home — people? it's incredibly hard. we employ home care _ people? it's incredibly hard. we employ home care assistance i people? it's incredibly hard. we i employ home care assistance here people? it's incredibly hard. we - employ home care assistance here and they are _ employ home care assistance here and they are all— employ home care assistance here and they are all heroes. not all heroes wear— they are all heroes. not all heroes wear capes~ — they are all heroes. not all heroes wear capes. that is our staff here. that _ wear capes. that is our staff here. that is— wear capes. that is our staff here. that is the — wear capes. that is our staff here. that is the sector in general. these people _ that is the sector in general. these people who — that is the sector in general. these people who provide these tasks are incredible _ people who provide these tasks are incredible people. and we are on the lookout _ incredible people. and we are on the lookout to— incredible people. and we are on the lookout to try to find more of those people _ lookout to try to find more of those people my — lookout to try to find more of those people. my hat goes off to all of the staff— people. my hat goes off to all of the staff working in the home care sector— the staff working in the home care sector and — the staff working in the home care sector and the adult social care sector— sector and the adult social care sector in— sector and the adult social care sector in general. so thank you very much _ sector in general. so thank you very much. ., ~ sector in general. so thank you very much. ., ,, i. ., sector in general. so thank you very much. ., ,, ., , much. thank you for your time this mornino. much. thank you for your time this morning- scott _ much. thank you for your time this morning. scott marsh, _ much. thank you for your time this morning. scott marsh, who - much. thank you for your time this morning. scott marsh, who runs. much. thank you for your time this morning. scott marsh, who runs a| morning. scott marsh, who runs a care home in nottinghamshire. thank you both very much for your time. thank you. it's now two months since taliban fighters entered kabul, prompting thousands of afghans to flee the country. around 8,000 of them applied to settle in the uk, where they're now trying to build a new life. for those with children, that means going to school. sabbiyah pervez went to meet one family who arrived in the uk just before the fall of kabul, as they tackle the books, bags and uniforms of a brand new school run. uniform checked, codes zip bags ready. it uniform checked, codes zip bags read . , ., uniform checked, codes zip bags read. ,., ., ready. it is a monday morning routine many _ ready. it is a monday morning routine many parents - ready. it is a monday morning routine many parents with - ready. it is a monday morning - routine many parents with school-age routine many parents with school—age children will find familiar. but for this family, who fled afghanistan in july this year, just before the taliban took over, it is the start of a new adventure. a step towards integrating in their new home. it is theirfirst integrating in their new home. it is their first day of school. in afghanistan when they were going to school me and my wife are not feeling well because there is a lot of criminality. forfour feeling well because there is a lot of criminality. for four months we didn't let them go to school because of the security condition. and now we are really happy because everything is safe. we are safe. he worked as an interpreter for the british army. his life was at risk but now he is happy his family is safe. and his children have a future. , ., ., ., ,. future. they are going to school. their future _ future. they are going to school. their future will _ future. they are going to school. their future will be _ future. they are going to school. their future will be bright. - future. they are going to school. their future will be bright. and i future. they are going to school. | their future will be bright. and for the uk government, for ourfamily and for the society. the journey to their future begins now with a two mile bus ride to the primary school. pore now with a two mile bus ride to the primary school-— primary school. are you excited? yes! when _ primary school. are you excited? yes! when they _ primary school. are you excited? yes! when they enter— primary school. are you excited? yes! when they enter the - primary school. are you excited? yes! when they enter the school| primary school. are you excited? i yes! when they enter the school the children receive _ yes! when they enter the school the children receive a _ yes! when they enter the school the children receive a warm _ yes! when they enter the school the children receive a warm welcome i yes! when they enter the school the children receive a warm welcome in| children receive a warm welcome in their own language. a testa m e nt a testament to how well—equipped the primary school is at accommodating students of all nationalities. all saints has a rich history of welcoming children from around the world. why is it important to you and the school? brute world. why is it important to you and the school?— world. why is it important to you and the school? we can offer safety, stabili , and the school? we can offer safety, stability. good _ and the school? we can offer safety, stability, good education _ and the school? we can offer safety, stability, good education in - and the school? we can offer safety, stability, good education in a - and the school? we can offer safety, stability, good education in a rich - stability, good education in a rich and diverse area like bradford. and we've got really skilled staff who are able to work with children with very limited english and a very experienced that doing so, and very successful. it enriches the experience for all of our children, whether they are from england or around the world.— whether they are from england or around the world. students already attendin: around the world. students already attending the _ around the world. students already attending the school _ around the world. students already attending the school recognise - around the world. students alreadyj attending the school recognise how important it is for these children to be offered at the same opportunities. i to be offered at the same opportunities.— to be offered at the same opportunities. to be offered at the same o- ortunities. ,, , ., opportunities. i feel like they are oooin to opportunities. i feel like they are going to be _ opportunities. i feel like they are going to be safe _ opportunities. i feel like they are going to be safe here _ opportunities. i feel like they are going to be safe here and - opportunities. i feel like they are going to be safe here and they i opportunities. i feel like they are l going to be safe here and they are going _ going to be safe here and they are going to _ going to be safe here and they are going to be safe here and they are going to be well educated and they are going _ going to be well educated and they are going to have fun here. after all they have _ are going to have fun here. after all they have been _ are going to have fun here. after all they have been through - are going to have fun here. after all they have been through they deserve — all they have been through they deserve a — all they have been through they deserve a fresh _ all they have been through they deserve a fresh new— all they have been through they deserve a fresh new start - all they have been through they deserve a fresh new start at - all they have been through they deserve a fresh new start at a i deserve a fresh new start at a school — deserve a fresh new start at a school to _ deserve a fresh new start at a school to get _ deserve a fresh new start at a school to get an _ deserve a fresh new start at a school to get an education, i deserve a fresh new start at a school to get an education, in deserve a fresh new start at a - school to get an education, in order to achieve _ school to get an education, in order to achieve anything _ school to get an education, in order to achieve anything they— school to get an education, in order to achieve anything they want - school to get an education, in order to achieve anything they want in - to achieve anything they want in life when— to achieve anything they want in life when they _ to achieve anything they want in life when they are _ to achieve anything they want in life when they are older. - to achieve anything they want in life when they are older. and i to achieve anything they want in i life when they are older. and since they are _ life when they are older. and since they are the — life when they are older. and since they are the same _ life when they are older. and since they are the same age _ life when they are older. and since they are the same age as- life when they are older. and since they are the same age as us, - life when they are older. and since they are the same age as us, theyl they are the same age as us, they are no— they are the same age as us, they are no different, _ they are the same age as us, they are no different, even _ they are the same age as us, they are no different, even though- they are the same age as us, they| are no different, even though they were _ are no different, even though they were born — are no different, even though they were born in — are no different, even though they were born in a _ are no different, even though they were born in a different— are no different, even though they were born in a different country. it doesn't _ were born in a different country. it doesn't make _ were born in a different country. it doesn't make them _ were born in a different country. it doesn't make them any— were born in a different country. it doesn't make them any less - doesn't make them any less difference _ doesn't make them any less difference to— doesn't make them any less difference to us. _ doesn't make them any less difference to us. is - doesn't make them any less difference to us.— doesn't make them any less difference to us. as the afghan children navigate _ difference to us. as the afghan children navigate their- difference to us. as the afghan children navigate their new - difference to us. as the afghan i children navigate their new lives, they carry their experiences with them and their hopes and dreams they wear as smiles. that was sabbiyah pervez reporting. you're watching breakfast. and if you're wondering why pudsey bear is here, it's because children in need is coming up next month. he has got his script ready. i think it would do — he has got his script ready. i think it would do a _ he has got his script ready. i think it would do a better _ he has got his script ready. i think it would do a betterjob _ he has got his script ready. i think it would do a betterjob than - he has got his script ready. i think it would do a betterjob than both | it would do a betterjob than both of us. it would do a better 'ob than both of us. , ., ., of us. children in need is around the corner- _ and pudsey is keen to drum up some support. in fact, he's brought a friend along to help him do exactly that. hello, you two! that is, of course, our bbc weather colleague 0wain wyn evans, who is taking on an epic drumathon challenge for children in need. he'll be telling us all about it in about an hour. drum roll for the hand to the regions then. time now to get the news, travel and weather where you are. good morning, i'm sonja jessup. homeless charities in london are warning higher numbers of women face being on the streets this winter, as some of the government's support schemes, such as furlough and the eviction ban, come to an end. some shelters have already seen a rise in women needing temporary accomodation. one centre in kings cross says requests for help have more than doubled in a year. compared to last summer, there was around 10% of young people who accessed our services were young women. that's drastically increased this year, so it's now at 35%. approaching us for a wide range of reasons, so increase in domestic violence situations throughout the pandemic. more young women that are losing theirjobs as a result of the pandemic and therefore unable to manage independently and finding themselves in situations of homelessness. the government says tackling homelessness remains an absolute priority and an unprecedented £750 million is being spent this year. a woman has been injured in a blaze at a block of flats in battersea. the building in westbridge road was evacuated after a flat on the 20th floor caught light. the woman left before crews arrived and was treated for breathing in smoke. police say they've stepped up patrols after a spate of bike robberies in the richmond park. there have been three reports in the last week. a professional rider has been threatened with a machete. there are concerns that some of london's green spaces are becoming a dumping ground for unwanted exotic pets. two turtles were spotted in the lakes in bushy park in south west london as well as a giant crab. and a large lobster was recently pulled out of the ladies pond in hampstead heath. wildlife experts warn it could upset the ecosystem. let's take a look at how the tube is running this morning... there's no overground running between edmonton green and enfield town. it's after the train derailment yesterday. other lines running as normal. onto the weather now. good morning. we are still looking at a largely settled day today. high pressure still centred to the south—west of the uk but it is dragging in a little more cloud. one or two spots, a bright start this morning further east. quickly the cloud will move in from the west. the cloud thick enough to produce in part one or two spots of rain. gradually dry as we head through the afternoon. largely overcast throughout, maybe one or two brighter spells. temperatures today reaching a maximum of 17 celsius. not feeling too chilly at all. overnight we will hang on to the cloud. it should however stay largely dry — one or two breaks in the cloud leading to one or two clearer spells. minimum temperature somewhere between 8 and 10 celsius in central london. thursday again it is looking largely cloudy. you can see the high pressure slowly slipping away. the wind strengthens on thursday afternoon and we will see more cloud as we head overnight. that is a cold front. it might linger into friday morning but gradually clearing to a brighter afternoon on friday. introduces some chilly air. i'll be back in half an hour. back to charlie and sally. bye for now. hello, this is breakfast with charlie stayt and sally nugent. we're going to meet two mothers now who formed a friendship in the most unlikely and tragic of circumstances. it started with the death of leah hayes in 2019. leah was just 15 and she died after taking the illegal drug mdma, which is the key ingredient of ecstasy. leah's mum kerry roberts is here now and so is tammy kirkwood, mum of connor. i know you are both very nervous this morning and everyone will understand why.— this morning and everyone will understand wh . ., ., understand why. hearing the name, suddenly- -- — understand why. hearing the name, suddenly... the _ understand why. hearing the name, suddenly... the rest _ understand why. hearing the name, suddenly... the rest of _ understand why. hearing the name, suddenly... the rest of us _ understand why. hearing the name, suddenly... the rest of us can - understand why. hearing the name, suddenly... the rest of us can onlyl suddenly... the rest of us can only imaoine suddenly... the rest of us can only imagine how _ suddenly... the rest of us can only imagine how it _ suddenly... the rest of us can only imagine how it is. _ suddenly... the rest of us can only imagine how it is. we _ suddenly... the rest of us can only imagine how it is. we say - suddenly... the rest of us can only imagine how it is. we say it - suddenly... the rest of us can only imagine how it is. we say it in - suddenly... the rest of us can only imagine how it is. we say it in a i imagine how it is. we say it in a matter of fact way, that thing that happened. if you are ok telling us. what happened? take us through a bit of the story. i what happened? take us through a bit of the sto . ., ., , ., what happened? take us through a bit ofthe sto . ., ., , ., ., of the story. i had a phone call at eioht of the story. i had a phone call at eight o'clock— of the story. i had a phone call at eight o'clock that _ of the story. i had a phone call at eight o'clock that evening - of the story. i had a phone call at eight o'clock that evening from i of the story. i had a phone call at eight o'clock that evening from a | eight o'clock that evening from a friend of leah's. she said she had had a drink and she was a bit tipsy. she was 15, she was going to be in trouble. i would she was 15, she was going to be in trouble. iwould pick she was 15, she was going to be in trouble. i would pick her up and she would be in trouble. she was in the car park on the floor. my partner stayed in the car. he was like, go and get her. we knew pretty much straightaway there was something wrong. she was still conscious. she said, mum. she knew! wrong. she was still conscious. she said, mum. she knew i was there. it took minutes for her to be unconscious and from there it is a bit of a blur stock remember the paramedics and the policeman who had already run the ambulance. i remember herfriend being already run the ambulance. i remember her friend being there already run the ambulance. i remember herfriend being there but it is a blur. remember her friend being there but it is a blur. ~ , ., remember her friend being there but it is a blur. ~ i. ,, ., it is a blur. when did you know it was drugs _ it is a blur. when did you know it was drugs related? _ it is a blur. when did you know it was drugs related? when - it is a blur. when did you know it was drugs related? when did - it is a blur. when did you know itj was drugs related? when did the whole picture become clear? that nioht in whole picture become clear? that night in the _ whole picture become clear? that night in the park. _ whole picture become clear? that night in the park. the _ whole picture become clear? trust night in the park. the friend that was there said she had taken something. did not know what it was but said she had taken something. can i ask you for the people at home, just explain the connection you have between you? mr; home, just explain the connection you have between you?— home, just explain the connection you have between you? my son was involved in — you have between you? my son was involved in county _ you have between you? my son was involved in county lines _ you have between you? my son was involved in county lines and - you have between you? my son was involved in county lines and was - involved in county lines and was groomed — involved in county lines and was groomed. he said plyed mdma —— supplied _ groomed. he said plyed mdma —— supplied mdma to another 18—year—old boy, mitch, and then that when on to the girls _ boy, mitch, and then that when on to the oirls. ., ., , ,, boy, mitch, and then that when on to the oirls. ., ., , , , the girls. connor supplied the drug? two mitch. then _ the girls. connor supplied the drug? two mitch. then that _ the girls. connor supplied the drug? two mitch. then that went - the girls. connor supplied the drug? two mitch. then that went to - the girls. connor supplied the drug? two mitch. then that went to leah. | two mitch. then that went to leah. yes. he two mitch. then that went to leah. yes- he had — two mitch. then that went to leah. yes. he had been _ two mitch. then that went to leah. yes. he had been mixed _ two mitch. then that went to leah. yes. he had been mixed up- two mitch. then that went to leah. yes. he had been mixed up since i two mitch. then that went to leah. | yes. he had been mixed up since he was 14, _ yes. he had been mixed up since he was 14, 15~ _ yes. he had been mixed up since he was 14, 15~ i— yes. he had been mixed up since he was 14, 15. i know to changes in him are screaming to the police. social services, _ are screaming to the police. social services, can you help? something is wrong _ services, can you help? something is wrong i_ services, can you help? something is wrong ieven— services, can you help? something is wrong. i even called the police on him _ wrong. i even called the police on him i_ wrong. i even called the police on him i kept— wrong. i even called the police on him. i kept screaming for somebody. maybe _ him. i kept screaming for somebody. maybe people will look at the two of you sitting next to each other today and, you know, wonder how... is it a friendship? wonder how the relationship you have between you now, that connection, how you have managed that?— managed that? when we first met, the did managed that? when we first met, they did some _ managed that? when we first met, they did some individual— managed that? when we first met, they did some individual meetings| they did some individual meetings with us to bring us together. we came together. they kept saying to me, you will be said together, it will work, you will really get on. i did not believe that. in my head she was con a's man. there never has been any hatred for tammy but it was connofs been any hatred for tammy but it was connor's mum. then we met and it became apparent we want the same thing, we want awareness. we are both victims in different ways, both victims. ., , ., , ., both victims in different ways, both victims. ., , ., , , victims. can you give us a sense, if ou don't victims. can you give us a sense, if you don't mind... _ victims. can you give us a sense, if you don't mind... i— victims. can you give us a sense, if you don't mind... i almost- victims. can you give us a sense, if you don't mind... i almost feel - victims. can you give us a sense, if you don't mind... i almost feel like we are intruding but it is a very public campaign. the first meeting when the two of you first met together, what was that like, given your relative experiences? frightening. i did not know. i am known _ frightening. ! did not know. i am known as— frightening. i did not know. i am known as the drug dealer's mum. you want to— known as the drug dealer's mum. you want to raise — known as the drug dealer's mum. you want to raise her children as best you can — want to raise her children as best you can i— want to raise her children as best you can. i had a lot of guilt and i was _ you can. i had a lot of guilt and i was not — you can. i had a lot of guilt and i was not sure _ you can. i had a lot of guilt and i was not sure how she would react with me — was not sure how she would react with me it— was not sure how she would react with me. itjust a. we started talking — with me. itjust a. we started talking by— with me. itjust a. we started talking by sitting down having a cup of coffee _ talking by sitting down having a cup of coffee and we let everything out, didn't— of coffee and we let everything out, didn't we? — of coffee and we let everything out, didn't we? we of coffee and we let everything out, didn't we? ~ .., . ., ., didn't we? we connected. i had a perception _ didn't we? we connected. i had a perception of— didn't we? we connected. i had a perception of you _ didn't we? we connected. i had a perception of you and _ didn't we? we connected. i had a perception of you and connor - didn't we? we connected. i had a perception of you and connor and didn't we? we connected. i had a - perception of you and connor and the family. yeah, it was made clear that was not how it is. people have the same position as near that she was from a certain family. she was a child and she experimented and it went wrong. connor was a child, he was 14, 15 when he was groomed. really it was to parent with two children and things have gone horribly wrong.— children and things have gone horribl wrono. , , ., , horribly wrong. there will be people listenino to horribly wrong. there will be people listening to the _ horribly wrong. there will be people listening to the massively _ horribly wrong. there will be people listening to the massively their - listening to the massively their children are not in the circumstances your children in that they might be worried about them. they might be going out tonight and arejust and leah did commit mixing with people. are just and leah did commit mixing with people-— with people. what messages do you have? i think _ with people. what messages do you have? i think what _ with people. what messages do you have? i think what i _ with people. what messages do you have? i think what i have _ with people. what messages do you have? i think what i have learned i with people. what messages do you have? i think what i have learned is| have? i think what i have learned is it is not the children, it is not the families we think it is. the children and families who think it is not going to be, i inky should not have that perception of who is doing this because there are people that you just would not think, looking at them, this is happening to them. ~ . ., .,, to them. mice and was quite outspoken. _ to them. mice and was quite outspoken, was _ to them. mice and was quite outspoken, was into - to them. mice and was quite outspoken, was into loads i to them. mice and was quite| outspoken, was into loads of to them. mice and was quite - outspoken, was into loads of sports growing _ outspoken, was into loads of sports growing up — outspoken, was into loads of sports growing up. —— my son was quite outspoken — growing up. —— my son was quite outspoken. he was getting older people. — outspoken. he was getting older people, sometimes adults, sometimes parent— people, sometimes adults, sometimes parent him _ people, sometimes adults, sometimes parent him into things that should have happened. they prey on kids that are _ have happened. they prey on kids that are vulnerable, vulnerable adults — that are vulnerable, vulnerable adults and children to seek out your weakness — adults and children to seek out your weakness l— adults and children to seek out your weakness. ., ., ., ., weakness. i am learning a lot throuoh weakness. i am learning a lot through tammy _ weakness. i am learning a lot through tammy about - weakness. i am learning a lot through tammy about county| weakness. i am learning a lot - through tammy about county lines. i am learning a lot from her. hate through tammy about county lines. i am learning a lot from her.— am learning a lot from her. we are learnino am learning a lot from her. we are learning something _ am learning a lot from her. we are learning something every - am learning a lot from her. we are learning something every day - am learning a lot from her. we are learning something every day from each other. ~ , ., learning something every day from each other-— learning something every day from each other. ~ i. ., ., ,, . ,, ., each other. when you look back now, what do you — each other. when you look back now, what do you wish _ each other. when you look back now, what do you wish you _ each other. when you look back now, what do you wish you had _ each other. when you look back now, what do you wish you had known? i i what do you wish you had known? i wish i had known about mdma. they had talks about heroin, class a drugs. ecstasy was brought up but the word mdma was not used. it is a form of ecstasy. when leah had with her friends she was going to try it, she would not have clicked it was the same thing. it was just a party drug and herfriends the same thing. it was just a party drug and her friends would have done it before. she was 15 and she thought she would have fun in the park with her friends. thought she would have fun in the park with herfriends. we did not have a conversation about mdma. he mentioned her friends. what would be mentioned herfriends. what would be —— has been the trickle—down effect of your loss and her losing her life? ., of your loss and her losing her| life?_ obviously of your loss and her losing her. life?_ obviously to life? to her friends? obviously to the family but _ life? to her friends? obviously to the family but he _ life? to her friends? obviously to the family but he why _ life? to her friends? obviously to the family but he why do - life? to her friends? obviously to the family but he why do people? people her age group remember the and what happened and i am hoping it has stopped them from doing it again. i am has stopped them from doing it again. iam hoping. her closest friends, we keep in contact still and they are fantastic. we have a lot of communication about leah. flan lot of communication about leah. can i ask about connor? how is he now? what is his approach to what he was involved in? how is he now? he still has thinos involved in? how is he now? he still has things he _ involved in? how is he now? he still has things he is _ involved in? how is he now? he still has things he is working _ involved in? how is he now? he still has things he is working through - has things he is working through with the — has things he is working through with the grooming side and who is his friend — with the grooming side and who is his friend and it is not. he has some — his friend and it is not. he has some lovely close friends who have stuck _ some lovely close friends who have stuck by _ some lovely close friends who have stuck by him and supported him, talked _ stuck by him and supported him, talked to— stuck by him and supported him, talked to him. connor is not very verbal. _ talked to him. connor is not very verbal, does not talk a lot. he keeps — verbal, does not talk a lot. he keeps himself busy, goes to work. he says if— keeps himself busy, goes to work. he says if he _ keeps himself busy, goes to work. he says if he sit— keeps himself busy, goes to work. he says if he sit still, it gets into his head _ says if he sit still, it gets into his head stuck goes to work, he works— his head stuck goes to work, he works out— his head stuck goes to work, he works out and does his coursework. he is— works out and does his coursework. he is on— works out and does his coursework. he is on a _ works out and does his coursework. he is on a uni — works out and does his coursework. he is on a uni course at the moment. the powerful— he is on a uni course at the moment. the powerful thing you both have is the connection between you. what do you hope to achieve with that connection by speaking together? people do not expect to see as together. they expect hatred. the fact we are working together and we work well together and we want the same things, we want our children to be safer and are safe as we can make them. it isjust an understanding. to parents, teachers, youth workers, children. , ., , to parents, teachers, youth workers, children. , , , , children. even shop people. they see kids coming — children. even shop people. they see kids coming in _ children. even shop people. they see kids coming in and _ children. even shop people. they see kids coming in and out, _ children. even shop people. they see kids coming in and out, just - children. even shop people. they see kids coming in and out, just speak. kids coming in and out, just speak to them — kids coming in and out, just speak to them do — kids coming in and out, just speak to them. do not feel bad. you could be the _ to them. do not feel bad. you could be the person may need to talk to. minor— be the person may need to talk to. minor safety. kids are going to experiment, they do not know what to do or who _ experiment, they do not know what to do or who to— experiment, they do not know what to do or who to talk to. i did not know what _ do or who to talk to. i did not know what mdma was, i had to search it. it is to— what mdma was, i had to search it. it is to have — what mdma was, i had to search it. it is to have conversations with kids— it is to have conversations with kids and — it is to have conversations with kids and the teachers. if they know something — kids and the teachers. if they know something is not right, just keep speaking — something is not right, just keep speaking to someone until someone listens— speaking to someone until someone listens to _ speaking to someone until someone listens to you. | speaking to someone until someone listens to you-— listens to you. i am sure we have a lot of parents _ listens to you. i am sure we have a lot of parents and _ listens to you. i am sure we have a lot of parents and young _ listens to you. i am sure we have a lot of parents and young people i lot of parents and young people watching this programme. i expect around a lot of tables at breakfast this morning people have listened because of the remarkable connection between you. it is incredible what you have done an incredible success you have done an incredible success you have done an incredible success you have tried to achieve.— you have tried to achieve. thank ou. you have tried to achieve. thank yom thank _ you have tried to achieve. thank you. thank you. _ now for the sport. what an incredible pair! england drew h with hungary in a world cup qualifier at wembley. but the game was marred by hungary fans fighting with police and stewards. hungary have already been ordered to play two home matches behind closed doors following the racism england players experienced there last month. a banner could clearly be seen amongst the away fans prior to kick off, in protest at england players taking the knee. shortly after fighting broke out amongst hungarian fans and police which police say began with racial abuse aimed at a steward. on the pitch, hungary scored first beforejohn stones equalised. england need four points from two games to guarantee qualfiation. every time we speak about racial abuse, the punishments that then follow never seem to quite be in line with what has happened. but i guess i can't speak too freely unless i know the facts and i sincerely hope if that was the case, then the punishments this time fit what has happened. gareth southgate focusing on the performance was saying it was not what everyone has come to expect from the side. we what everyone has come to expect from the side.— from the side. we had one or two tactical problems _ from the side. we had one or two tactical problems we _ from the side. we had one or two tactical problems we managed i from the side. we had one or two tactical problems we managed to | tactical problems we managed to resolve as the game progressed. some of the quality was really poor. we didn't play with the same fluidity and individual level of performance we have come to appreciate and come to expect, really. we have to be honest about that as a group. scotland left it late to beat the faroe islands i—o away. lyndon dykes with the goal. they now need one win from their last two games to secure a play off place. and northern ireland's slim hopes of qualifying are over. they had led bulgaria at half time but two goals after the break from todor nedelev won it for the hosts. ian barraclough's men are now fourth in group c, and unable to make the play—offs. andy murray says he's not planning to play in next month's david cup finals, after losing his third round match at indian wells. he lost in straight sets 6—4, 7—6 to third seed alexander zverev. afterwards, he said he needs to rest his body, and also believes he doesn't deserve to make the team given how well cameron norrie and dan evans are playing. this is physically the best i have felt for a while. but i am battling my game a little bit. it is just not... the consistency isn't there, and i don't know. the decision—making is not great in the important moments still. discussions are to take place over the viability of developing a women's british and irish lions team. england and harlequins prop shaunagh brown will form part of a is—member panel to be chaired by the former lion ieuan evans. the board will assess the finacial viability, strength of opposition and scheduling in weighing up the merits of starting a women's side. the defending championjudd trump eased into the second round of the northern ireland open without his opponent scoring a single point! trump won all four frames against china's gao yang who couldn't get a footing at the table in belfast. the englishman will play another chinese player, lu ning, for a place in the last 16. golf's authorities are proposing to limit the distance of drives, by shortening the length of clubs allowed. bryson de chambeau is among the players who have been experimenting with longer clubs to hit the ball further but from the end of this season, competition organisers will be allowed to ban longer drivers from players bags. bryson absolutely losing run down the fairway. the is, this debate is so contentious in golf. the the fairway. the is, this debate is so contentious in golf.— so contentious in golf. the reality is it doesn't _ so contentious in golf. the reality is it doesn't really _ so contentious in golf. the reality is it doesn't really make - so contentious in golf. the reality is it doesn't really make much - is it doesn't really make much difference to drive length having a couple of inches longer on the driver. it is kind of academic. saying no more long drivers in the bag because you can get extra width on the ball, get through the ball faster, hit it further, doesn't make much difference. he was not playing with a longer driver. they are saying maybe in like 20, 50, 100 years' time, the longer drivers will make a difference before things get out of control. how is the weather for whacking a ball? not too bad. for many a dry start. beautiful sunrise in cumbria. there is a lot of cloud around. it is a cold start to the day across east anglia. temperatures have fallen away overnight. we have missed and fog patches to beat. high pressure is keeping things fairly settled. the weather front has cleared the north of scotland. this tale is still producing a lot of cloud and spots of rain at the moment. behind it in north—east scotland we should see some sunshine. in the north and west we are looking at showers on and off throughout the day. still the odd spot of rain coming from that weather front. spot of rain coming from that weatherfront. some breaks in east anglia. as the front sinks south they will go. in the south—west of england starting off on a bright note. there is chance you could catch an isolated shower later. in the rest of the day we will hang on to a lot of cloud. these are the temperatures. 12 to 17 degrees. feeling a little bit milder today on the east coast compared to yesterday. this evening and overnight there will still be a lot of cloud around. there will be a few breaks. we hang on to the showers in the north and west on a south—westerly breeze. temperature wise we're looking at nine to 11 degrees in towns and cities. leather clad remains broken, in rural areas temperatures will remain lower than this. —— where the cloud remains broken. there will be heavier rain tomorrow across the north of scotland were getting down to the north of england and north of ireland by the end of the afternoon. gusty winds as well across the north of the country, gusting to gale force at times. for the rest of england and wales a lot of cloud. still the chance of catching the odd spot of rain, in the midlands, through mid wales and the west of england. this is a cold front. behind it we will start to pull in colour conditions. overnight thursday into friday, it will push southwards. behind it we will have clearer conditions. a lot of sunshine and dry weather. it will feel considerably cooler. nine to 15 as the temperature range we are looking at. that will not last. temperatures will pick up more of us will see rain. thank you. mark gatiss is the master of dark and disturbing from the the league of gentlemen to creepy roles in doctor who, sherlock and dracula. now he's playing one of the most famous ghosts of alljacob marley in a stage version of a christmas carol. 0h, oh, my goodness, you like that dark side, don't you? 50 oh, my goodness, you like that dark side. don't you?— side, don't you? so they say. i am one of the — side, don't you? so they say. i am one of the people _ side, don't you? so they say. i am one of the people who _ side, don't you? so they say. i am one of the people who is - side, don't you? so they say. i am one of the people who is guilty - one of the people who is guilty of bringing christmas early. it is coming earlier each year. this is a lifelong ambition of mine to do christmas carol and play every part. i would drop hints about wanting to play jacob marley every year. so i have finally done my own version on stage. to maintain my reputation as the prince of darkness, i am emphasising... it is really... it is an trumpeted history as a ghost story. it remains a wonderful celebration of optimism and the triumph of the human spirit but fundamentally it is a ghost story. therefore ghosts at ebenezer scrooge encounters are a huge part of the classic english ghost story tradition.— classic english ghost story tradition. ., , ., ., tradition. what is going on here? nicholas farrell _ tradition. what is going on here? nicholas farrell in _ tradition. what is going on here? nicholas farrell in rehearsal - tradition. what is going on here? nicholas farrell in rehearsal the l nicholas farrell in rehearsal the other day. that is me with clanking chains. having wanted to do it since i was five years old, i had to negotiate... i was five years old, i had to negotiate. . .— i was five years old, i had to neuotiate... . ., , , ,, i was five years old, i had to neuotiate... . ., , , in negotiate... the chain business. it is not as easy _ negotiate... the chain business. it is not as easy as _ negotiate... the chain business. it is not as easy as it _ negotiate... the chain business. it is not as easy as it looks. - negotiate... the chain business. it is not as easy as it looks. looks i is not as easy as it looks. looks like ou is not as easy as it looks. looks like you are _ is not as easy as it looks. looks like you are walking _ is not as easy as it looks. looks like you are walking along - is not as easy as it looks. looks like you are walking along with | is not as easy as it looks. looks | like you are walking along with a small dog. like you are walking along with a small do. ., , ., ., small dog. that is the ledger. looks like a tin of — small dog. that is the ledger. looks like a tin of biscuits. _ small dog. that is the ledger. looks like a tin of biscuits. i _ small dog. that is the ledger. looks like a tin of biscuits. i always - like a tin of biscuits. i always found the — like a tin of biscuits. i always found the christmas - like a tin of biscuits. i always found the christmas carol. found the christmas carol terrifying, a frightening story. less so the optimistic. the boy stayed with me was the scary stuff. that is good, you can can. isild that is good, you can can. isil a film when _ that is good, you can can. isil a film when i _ that is good, you can can. isil a film when i was _ that is good, you can can. isil a film when i was four _ that is good, you can can. isil a film when i was four years - that is good, you can can. isil a film when i was four years old | that is good, you can can. isil a film when i was four years old and it profoundly me and has never left me. that sort of element of thrill is as much part of christmas to me as everything else, the optimism and fun of it. i think various versions over the years, there is a muppet version which is extremely good. my favourite! the ghost of christmas yet to come is petrifying. we're not going to try and frighten the pants off everybody because it is still a christmas carol but we are trying to emphasise those aspects a lot more. a modern would see and hear things perhaps, you are bringing things that have not been seen before. it that have not been seen before. it is a faithful adaptation. sometimes, when a story is so familiar, people run! million miles from it. there run1 million miles from it. there are lots of parts of the original story that i rarely done, they are glossed over. some of the biggest social conscience stuff by dickens about the poor law and homelessness and starvation, which is sadly still extremely relevant is kind of glossed over. it is about trying to find those things again and also to incorporate lots of lovely stage effects, some of them very old—fashioned. the victorians do know how to do it. old-fashioned. the victorians do know how to do it.— old-fashioned. the victorians do know how to do it. that is not what ou came know how to do it. that is not what you came here _ know how to do it. that is not what you came here to _ know how to do it. that is not what you came here to talk _ know how to do it. that is not what you came here to talk about - know how to do it. that is not what you came here to talk about today. i you came here to talk about today. you are a sci—fi fan. william shatner is going into space today. amazing! he is going to the edge of space. amazing! he is going to the edge of sace. ., . , amazing! he is going to the edge of sace. ., ., , , he amazing! he is going to the edge of space-_ he is i space. you are being picky. he is 90! absolutely _ space. you are being picky. he is 90! absolutely amazing. - space. you are being picky. he is 90! absolutely amazing. there i space. you are being picky. he is! 90! absolutely amazing. there is somethina 90! absolutely amazing. there is something full-circle _ 90! absolutely amazing. there is something full-circle about - 90! absolutely amazing. there is something full-circle about this. | 90! absolutely amazing. there is| something full-circle about this. i something full—circle about this. i was watching it in their late 60s, early 70s. who would have thought that reality and fiction, this amazing mash up?- that reality and fiction, this amazing mash up? captain kirk is finally going _ amazing mash up? captain kirk is finally going into _ amazing mash up? captain kirk is finally going into space _ amazing mash up? captain kirk is finally going into space but - amazing mash up? captain kirk is finally going into space but it - amazing mash up? captain kirk is finally going into space but it is l finally going into space but it is also strangely if i may be political at the moment. i those billionaires should try and concentrate on solving problems on planet earth than going into space. not william shatner, i want him to go. {line than going into space. not william shatner, i want him to go. one other thin is he shatner, i want him to go. one other thing is he said _ shatner, i want him to go. one other thing is he said he _ shatner, i want him to go. one other thing is he said he wants _ shatner, i want him to go. one other thing is he said he wants to - shatner, i want him to go. one other thing is he said he wants to look- thing is he said he wants to look out of the porthole. i do not think it is called a porthole, is it? the window. space _ it is called a porthole, is it? the window. space window. - it is called a porthole, is it? the window. space window. space l it is called a porthole, is it? the - window. space window. space window, is it? and go. — window. space window. space window, is it? and go. we _ window. space window. space window, is it? and go, we need _ window. space window. space window, is it? and go, we need to _ window. space window. space window, is it? and go, we need to look- window. space window. space window, is it? and go, we need to look after- is it? and go, we need to look after this. he is it? and go, we need to look after this. , ., ., , this. he is also with that message. goina this. he is also with that message. going back — this. he is also with that message. going back to _ this. he is also with that message. going back to the _ this. he is also with that message. going back to the christmas - this. he is also with that message. going back to the christmas carol, | going back to the christmas carol, interestingly, one thing is dickens is going to write a pamphlet about the state of the country and then he realised he could do a lot more in the form of this story than he ever could by standing on a pulpit and lecturing people. isuppose could by standing on a pulpit and lecturing people. i suppose in a way william shatner is trying to do the same, saying, look how fragile earth is than trying to make a political point. is than trying to make a political oint. ., , is than trying to make a political oint. . , _, . ., point. that is quite good connection ou have point. that is quite good connection you have made- _ point. that is quite good connection you have made. you _ point. that is quite good connection you have made. you did _ point. that is quite good connection you have made. you did very - point. that is quite good connection you have made. you did very well. | you have made. you did very well. when you are looking at projects and choosing the next thing to do, you have are motivated by the political situation and what you see around you, the world we live in? than you, the world we live in? an interesting — you, the world we live in? in interesting point. one of my favourite films is called sullivan's travels about a director who has a fit of conscience. he makes fun films. he wants to make a project called 0 brother where art thou? he wants to do something. it is a very funny film. he ends up wrongly imprisoned and he is on a chain gang stop get a day off and they go to the cinema and watch a mickey mouse cartoon. he looks at the audience all having a good time and things should make entertainment. ifeel like that in a way. it is so difficult because the world is in such a state. when we're our show, there are queues for food banks and you feel like you are living sometimes in a christmas carol. at the same time, unless you are going to man the barricades, i think you can only do what you can dignity own thing. by trying to do something like this and taking people out of themselves for christmas but that is themselves for christmas but that is the best i can do, i am afraid. another couple of projects as well. another couple of projects as well. a darker scary thriller on sky. br; a darker scary thriller on sky. el: accident a pandemic that i have the scariest, ghostly christmas year i have ever had. i have written and directed the amazing mr blanton for sky which is also one at christmas stop wh because of the pandemic? they were made. —— why because of the pandemic? it looks like it was planned but it was not.— planned but it was not. looks like ou have planned but it was not. looks like you have been — planned but it was not. looks like you have been working _ planned but it was not. looks like you have been working really - planned but it was not. looks like. you have been working really hard. we have had quite a few writers, musicians all coming in saying they had had a different pandemic experience. some of them finding it useful with time, space, thoughts. the game of two halves, i would say. everyone thinks, if only i had time to write that novel. halfway through the first lockdown i rang steven moffat and said he knew a global pandemic was not conducive to the mood? then it got better. i did quite a bit of filming and it has been all right. everyone should be very kind to themselves. it is not the same as having a sabbatical. people are struggling to pay the rent and to eat and to work out what they are going to do with the rest of their lives stop a lot of people have recalibrated. if we take anything good from this, it should be that, that you look at things slightly differently and my priority... i should slightly differently and my priority... ishould ring slightly differently and my priority... i should ring old friends more and reconnect more. have you done that? fin friends more and reconnect more. have you done that?— have you done that? on zoom, obviously- _ lovely to see you this morning. pleasure. "a christmas carol" opens in nottingham at the end of the month before heading to london's alexandra palace in november. and it is scary. cannot wait to see it. stay with us, headlines coming up. good morning, welcome to breakfast with charlie stayt and sally nugent. our headlines today. care staff crisis — a shortfall of 100,000 workers in the sector means people are not getting the help they need and the number of vacancies is rising. there are fears about christmas stock shortages as the port of felixstowe struggles with a backlog of shipping containers. former england rugby union captain mike tindall talks to people living with parkinson's disease — the same condition his dad is living with. ididn't want i didn't want to fall into despair. i didn't want to fall into despair. i knew_ i didn't want to fall into despair. i knew that _ i didn't want to fall into despair. i knew that i didn't want to lead this illness get the best of me. i've looked at this as an adventure. it's not _ i've looked at this as an adventure. it's not an— i've looked at this as an adventure. it's not an easy one. but, yeah. wow. _ falafel breakfast, anyone? for the past five years more than a third of us have reduced our meat and dairy intake. as mcdonald's launches its mcplant range, we look at the growth of vegan food and whether it is doing awesome or the environment any good. good morning. an important world cup qualifying for scotland, but england can only manage a against hungary. visiting fans fought with police at wembley last night. and bbc weather presenter 0wain wyn evans has big plans to drum up charity donations, as we launch our very own bbc breakfast children in need challenge. good morning. todayis today is going to be cloudy for many of us but there will be some brighter breaks. also some patchy rain. it is not going to be as cold as it was yesterday in the east. details coming up. good morning. it's wednesday, the 13th of october. our top story. care companies are struggling to recruit enough people — and there's a shortfall of more than 100,000 staff in england. people are having to wait longer for care. a new report says there are now more vacantjobs than before the pandemic, and that the mandatory vaccination policy could prompt even more resignations. with more on this, here's our social affairs editor, alison holt. so nurses have been up today, the bandages were too tight but they are all right now? yeah, they're fine. this visit to 103—year—old margaret will help her with her lunch and personal care. she has recently returned home after a four—week stay in hospital. how do you feel about being home now, rather than being in hospital? oh, i am glad to be home, definitely. after four weeks away. the amount of support she needs has increased, but here in buckinghamshire finding enough staff to cover all the demand for home care is now extremely difficult. it means care supervisor charlotte and manager vicky are having to step in to fill gaps in the rota. we are struggling for staff at the moment, so i'm finding, i think last week, every night i think i was out doing one or two care calls. we do have to pick up the phone and change times, we do have to be creative with the care that we provide. and until we can get some more people through the door to support us with that, then that's the way things will have to stay. there you go. today's report says whilst recruitment of care staff improved during the lockdowns, absence because of sickness has doubled and staff vacancies are now rising steadily, with existing staff exhausted and much better pay on offer elsewhere. how many sicknesses have we had today? the doctor who runs this care company also worked on hospital wards helping to discharge patients during the pandemic. with such a shortage of care staff in the community, he worries about the knock—on effect on the nhs. we normally are having to turn down about eight new patients a day because we don't have the capacity of staff to be able to help them. for us to be in this position before the winter, before the christmas period, is terrifying. so looking after patients now is hard. can you imagine when the winter comes, when the cold weather comes, people will become more unwell? the government says it is running regular recruitment campaigns and is putting an extra £500 million into training and developing the skills of care staff. alison holt, bbc news. the brexit minister lord frost has proposed major changes to the northern ireland protocol. that's the deal which means goods travelling between northern ireland and the republic aren't subject to border checks. the protocol was agreed by the uk and the european union during brexit let's get more on this from our chief political correspondent, adam fleming. good morning. the protocol is probably a good starting point to lay out what it is before we talk about what they are trying to change? about what they are trying to chan . e? , about what they are trying to chance? , ., , about what they are trying to chance? , .,, ., about what they are trying to chance? , ., �* change? yes, as part of the brexit deal negotiated _ change? yes, as part of the brexit deal negotiated in _ change? yes, as part of the brexit deal negotiated in 2019 _ change? yes, as part of the brexit deal negotiated in 2019 between l change? yes, as part of the brexit l deal negotiated in 2019 between the eu and _ deal negotiated in 2019 between the eu and the uk, northern ireland still sees — eu and the uk, northern ireland still sees some eu laws apply to it when _ still sees some eu laws apply to it when it— still sees some eu laws apply to it when it comes to goods, plant and animal_ when it comes to goods, plant and animal health and medicines. and that is_ animal health and medicines. and that is so— animal health and medicines. and that is so you can get the free flow of stuff _ that is so you can get the free flow of stuff from northern ireland to ireland _ of stuff from northern ireland to ireland to — of stuff from northern ireland to ireland to protect the peace process _ ireland to protect the peace process. but it means that you have checks _ process. but it means that you have checks on _ process. but it means that you have checks on things coming from great britain _ checks on things coming from great britain to— checks on things coming from great britain to northern ireland. and northern— britain to northern ireland. and northern ireland's status within the uk is _ northern ireland's status within the uk is basically a bit different from what it— uk is basically a bit different from what it was before brexit. the uk government is finding that intolerable. they think it is bad for business. they think it is staking _ for business. they think it is stoking up tensions within communities in northern ireland. yesterday— communities in northern ireland. yesterday in a speech in lisbon lord frost, _ yesterday in a speech in lisbon lord frost, the _ yesterday in a speech in lisbon lord frost, the brexit minister, called for the _ frost, the brexit minister, called for the protocol to be scrapped and replaced _ for the protocol to be scrapped and replaced by a completely new arrangement. that is not quite what the eu _ arrangement. that is not quite what the eu is— arrangement. that is not quite what the eu is prepared to do. today we are going _ the eu is prepared to do. today we are going to— the eu is prepared to do. today we are going to get proposals from them to tweak— are going to get proposals from them to tweak the existing deal and to 'ust to tweak the existing deal and to just implement it in a more relaxed way. just implement it in a more relaxed way the _ just implement it in a more relaxed way the eu — just implement it in a more relaxed way. the eu thinks that is actually going _ way. the eu thinks that is actually going quite a long way towards the uk. going quite a long way towards the uk the _ going quite a long way towards the uk. the uk thinks it is not going far enough. what this means in the short— far enough. what this means in the short term — far enough. what this means in the short term though is that we are in for another— short term though is that we are in for another couple of weeks, maybe a month, _ for another couple of weeks, maybe a month, quite intense negotiations. then i_ month, quite intense negotiations. then i think in the middle of november both sides will decide what to do _ november both sides will decide what to do if_ november both sides will decide what to do if it _ november both sides will decide what to do. if it has gone badly, the uk will do _ to do. if it has gone badly, the uk will do the — to do. if it has gone badly, the uk will do the so—called nuclear option. _ will do the so—called nuclear option, where they stop applying bits option, where they stop applying hits of— option, where they stop applying bits of the brexit deal in northern ireland, _ bits of the brexit deal in northern ireland, which might provoke a retaliation from the eu. 0r ireland, which might provoke a retaliation from the eu. or this might— retaliation from the eu. or this might be — retaliation from the eu. or this might be classic negotiating where there _ might be classic negotiating where there is— might be classic negotiating where there is a — might be classic negotiating where there is a bit of bluster, bit of movement, and then everyone agrees to disagree _ movement, and then everyone agrees to disagree in the end.— to disagree in the end. adam, thank ou. ships are being diverted away from the uk's largest commercial port because of a backlog of containers. the port of felixstowe, which handles more than a third of the uk's container traffic, said the ongoing shortage of hgv drivers was partly to blame, as graham satchell reports. but it said the situation has been improving over the past few days. short courses in science and technology will be offered to adults in england, as part of the government's plans to increase skills in the workplace. its a modest addition to a wider programme of educational reform, including introducing qualifications called t levels for 16 to 18—year—olds. if you entered last night's euromillions draw, the bad news is you didn't win it. here is the good news, nobody else did. that means the record jackpot of £181; million will be available again on friday. it won't get any bigger. it has reached its maximum level. auk a uk winner will be very rich if they win that and can afford many houses like that. a lot of houses. 184 million would buy a lot. if i won the euromillions, you know what would definitely want? aha, won the euromillions, you know what would definitely want?— would definitely want? a good cup of coffee. would definitely want? a good cup of coffee- that — would definitely want? a good cup of coffee. that wasn't _ would definitely want? a good cup of coffee. that wasn't what _ would definitely want? a good cup of coffee. that wasn't what i _ would definitely want? a good cup of coffee. that wasn't what i was - would definitely want? a good cup of coffee. that wasn't what i was going | coffee. that wasn't what i was going to sa . i coffee. that wasn't what i was going to say- i was — coffee. that wasn't what i was going to say- i was going _ coffee. that wasn't what i was going to say. i was going to _ coffee. that wasn't what i was going to say. i was going to say _ coffee. that wasn't what i was going to say. i was going to say a - to say. i was going to say a rotating house. you are going to say, surely that doesn't exist. this is the perfect romantic gesture. a man in bosnia has built a rotating house for his wife. apparently, she was tired of seeing the same view from her window, and he was so fed up of hearing her complain that he got to work. is that a romantic gesture? ijust think in the view of the poly tunnel that i am seeing on the left, that is not the one you would normally choose to look at. i is not the one you would normally choose to look at.— choose to look at. i don't know. carol has _ choose to look at. i don't know. carol has the — choose to look at. i don't know. carol has the weather. - carol has the weather. good morning. this picture was sent in this morning by one of our weather watchers. a beautiful sunrise in nottinghamshire. a lovely tranquil scene. today there is quite a bit of cloud across the uk. we have got a weak weather front. you can see the end of it here. it is producing spots of rain. it has been a clear start in east anglia and a cold one. as this front continues to sink southwards more cloud will spread across southern areas generally with the chair into the afternoon. there will be some brightness today, particularly so because part of the midlands, wales and northern ireland. showers persisting across the far north and west of scotland. not as cold as it was yesterday across eastern areas. into this evening and overnight we hang onto a lot of cloud. once again there will be the odd tier spell. temperature wise most of us fairly healthy but having said that, when the temperature falls in rural areas under the clear skies it could fall to low levels. it will be a cold and i do for you. at the same time the wind is going to strengthen across the far north of scotland. and we have got some rain moving in across the northern isles. it is a cold front which tomorrow will bring heavier rain sinking south, eventually getting into northern england and also northern ireland, with hefty showers behind and gusty winds gusting to gale force at times. for england and wales, a lot of cloud. some spots of rain. temperatures of 217 but starting to get cooler from the north. thank you very much. back injune, bbc breakfast met up with the england rugby union legend mike tindall and his dad — philip — who has been living with parkinson's disease for almost 20 years. sadly, he's not alone. around 145—thousand people in the uk have parkinson's, and the disease can affect them in all sorts of different ways. you have been with mike talking to families who have been affected. and it can affect people in so many different ways?— it can affect people in so many different ways? yes, this is a thing mike is passionate _ different ways? yes, this is a thing mike is passionate about, - different ways? yes, this is a thing mike is passionate about, not - different ways? yes, this is a thing mike is passionate about, notjust| mike is passionate about, notjust for his family dotmacro he says there isn't enough information out there isn't enough information out there to help and support people at every stage of the disease. he is keen to shed some light on everybody�*s story we made a selection of families living with parkinson's. here is their story. living with parkinson's means a completely different way of life than it used to be. my advice for anyone who's been recently diagnosed i is most importantly, - don't be too hard on yourself. really important that people recognise you don't have parkinson's, your family has it. it's very important that you recognise _ it's very important that you recognise you _ it's very important that you recognise you don't - it's very important that you recognise you don't have i recognise you don't have parkinson's. _ recognise you don't have parkinson's, your- recognise you don't have parkinson's, your familyl recognise you don't have - parkinson's, your family hazard. a good friend said to me, "you may have parkinson's but parkinson's. has not got you." so, mike, the last time we saw you was at your mum and dads house. it was. are you wobbly today? yes, i'm wobbly today. are you wibbly wobbly? wibbly wobbly, yeah. are you all right? yeah, not bad. how's everything else? can you jig jog? been out for your run this morning? but we're here today to talk to other people and families who are affected by parkinson's. what do you hope to learn? i just think it's all about the different stories, the different journeys. everyone's symptoms are so different. i think the more you can learn and absorb, the more people it will help. ready to meet them? i'm ready. let's go. right. my name is david. i'm 77 years old. i've lived with parkinson for 14 years. that's better. so you were 63 when you got diagnosed. exactly, yeah. what i had was, symptoms were tingling on my left side. i'd been a fairly active sportsman, not at your exalted level but i played a lot of rugby. do we need to talk about wales—england rugby first? i thought, it's a trapped nerve. i was sent to a neurologist and within two minutes he said, "you've got parkinson's." david came home. he'd gone to the hospital. appointment on his own and he came him and told me, "i've got parkinson's." - i laughed. matter of fact. "i've got parkinson's. let's move on." what are we doing for tea? yeah, exactly. - what do you make of it? he's the cook in the house. i what are you making for tea? i didn't accept it, then he gotl the message across, actually, "i have got parkinson's." you know, we're14 years down the line now and i think i'm - probably still in . denial quite a lot. you started living - with it psychologically straightaway and i've been blocking it out for years. l my mum also is basically a primary carer and puts her own things aside, which she shouldn't be doing. my mum's been amazed by the stuff that sally did with my mum and dad, how many people have offered to come for a chat, play chess with my dad, play cards with my dad, while she can get out. he doesn't sleep well at night. like your mum, we do. put our own needs aside. i focus on my husband, _ my children and grandchildren now as well. he's a husband. it's not yourjob. yeah. so you've always got to make sure you get that balance of that right, otherwise it can weigh you down. i've seen it with mum and dad, it can weigh you down. my name is omotola. i'm 41 years old. i got diagnosed with parkinson's disease in 2016. i think it's because of my age, my race and my gender, nobody really thought about parkinson's. with mimi, i remember when she was much younger, and i used to braid her hair. it was more like a bonding experience for both of us. as parkinson's progressed and i lost my fine and gross motor skills, that became... i lost the ability to do that and that was very difficult and challenging for me. i didn't want to fall into despair. i didn't~~ — i knew that i didn't want to let this illness get the best of me or be overcome by it. i've looked at this as an adventure. it's not an easy one. but, yeah. wow! my name's alison, i'm 52 years old. i've been diagnosed - with parkinson's for six years. you kind of feel like your whole world has been blown apart. i i was probably in that dark place for three or four months. - i remember crying everyl morning and every night. this is what i've got to deall with and it's day in, day out. i think kind of as a mother, you don't want to... - protecting. you want to protectl your kids a little bit. no point telling them the full story right at the beginning. _ i was a nurse. i nursed for 20 years. i nursed lots of people - with later stage parkinson's. i knew what it looked like. that's all i could think- about when i went home that day in the car. oh, my goodness, that's. what my future looks like. i kind of knew i needed to do something - positive, turn it into something positive and for me that was i raising awareness. i'm amarpal. i'm 68 years old and i've been living with parkinson's for 11 years. do you want to just describe yourjourney of how... what you first thought about when you noticed you might be having symptoms and how was the journey getting to the doctor and getting checked? i was ignoring the symptoms, if i'm honest. the tremor was the first symptom. i was ignoring it because i thought, "i can conquer this, it's nothing." belle, did you notice the tremor right at the start? were you involved in the process or did amarpal sort of hide it from you as well? i noticed the tremor- almost immediately but he's very stubborn... sounds famiiliar! ..and he didn't want to go i to the doctor for a long time until somebody else suggested that he ought to go. _ she didn't take very long to tell me that i've got parkinson's. i didn't accept it for the first three years or so. you think you're going to get on top of it and it's nothing. it can't affect my lifestyle, but it does. it's just such a wide spectrum of people. i connect with david because i see what my mum and dad have gone through. it's very similar age when they got diagnosed, very similar story, slower symptoms. same with amarpal in terms of, he's sort of been figuring it out for himself. it's been fascinating, actually. so what needs to happen now? i think a few things have come out of today, i think. there is a real place to be building a database that is easy to find for everyone to use, to go and... people to share their stories, share their symptoms. obviously doctors, neurologists, are going to differ in their advice, so you almost need to read the stories to actually figure out what is going to work for you, what's going to sit better with you. so i think that's definitely somewhere we could get to, a resource that people who are newly diagnosed, or if people who are walking the path and just at a plateau can go and try and tap into and basically upskill themselves. some incredible stories there on that day. it was a real privilege just to be in that room. all of this people meeting for the very first time in talking about their diagnoses, what it meant for them and theirfamilies, talking so movingly. we will be talking live to mike tindall shortly. that is in the next few minutes. give you an update on how his dad is and what the next step is that he wants to take with parkinson's. step is that he wants to take with parkinson's-— parkinson's. that final shot was a nice big group — parkinson's. that final shot was a nice big group hug. _ parkinson's. that final shot was a nice big group hug. oh, - parkinson's. that final shot was a nice big group hug. oh, he i parkinson's. that final shot was a nice big group hug. oh, he can i parkinson's. that final shot was a i nice big group hug. oh, he can hug. he lives nice big group hug. oh, he can hug. he gives a — nice big group hug. oh, he can hug. he gives a good _ nice big group hug. oh, he can hug. he gives a good hug. _ nice big group hug. oh, he can hug. he gives a good hug. we _ nice big group hug. oh, he can hug. he gives a good hug. we will i nice big group hug. oh, he can hug. he gives a good hug. we will chat . nice big group hug. oh, he can hug. | he gives a good hug. we will chat to him in a few— he gives a good hug. we will chat to him in a few minutes. _ he gives a good hug. we will chat to him in a few minutes. 90 _ he gives a good hug. we will chat to him in a few minutes. 90 minutes i him in a few minutes. 90 minutes passed out. the fast—food chain mcdonald's is launching a new burger today. it is vegan. hind mcdonald's is launching a new burger today. it is vegan.— today. it is vegan. nina is at a food factory — today. it is vegan. nina is at a food factory in _ today. it is vegan. nina is at a food factory in milton - today. it is vegan. nina is at a food factory in milton keynes| today. it is vegan. nina is at a i food factory in milton keynes to find out if the vegan movement is here to stay. do you ever really order a vegan burger? good morning. it is a big day for mcdonald's, expanding their mcplant range. a big day for me. this is my first time back in a hair net after lockdown. look over here. these are the beautiful fresh ingredients that go into the falafel. i am taken by the colour of them. this is literally aid. colourful vegetables they get turned up in there. have a in there. and then they become the falafel ball. why a mcdonald's expanding their menu to include the mcplant range? it is of course a reflection of the fact we are eating a lot more plant —based food. in the past ten years our daily meat consumption has reduced by 17%. and in the past five years more than a third of households have decided to reduce their meat and their dairy intake. that is vegan when its meat reduction and planned reduction. it is being reflected in retail. if we take out milk, for example, a dairy substitute, the market was £74 million in 2019, then it went up to £146 million in 2021. that is a massive increase. mcdonald's have begun this mcplant range, they are expanding it to another 50 restaurants today. and by january of next year it is hoped it will be expanded to all restaurants if the product goes well. it's important to say there is some evidence from the world health organization that shifting to a plant —based diet can be betterfor your health, but the advice is to mix it up, to keep some meat products in there as well. some question around the sustainability of pure plant products. with the infrastructure be in place? would the land infrastructure be in place? would the [and must be able to cope? the advice is to keep that mixed diet. at the moment, with the reduction we have had in meat intake over the past ten years or so, that is still not at the target at government level is. if we have fewer animals our carbon emissions are reduced. the advice from government is if we can to bring down the amount of meat intake. at the moment of this factory have just intake. at the moment of this factory havejust built intake. at the moment of this factory have just built another site, a 500 million pounder site over the road, which shows you how much the market is growing here. what they have said to us is part of the reason is there is a huge growth. apparently we were doing a lot more cooking at home during lockdown. but because of the fear of the virus there was more awareness of health, which led to an increase in people deciding to move towards plant —based products. lots of people have been in touch this morning who have said the reason they don't fancy moving towards plant —based products is because they don't taste very good. they used to be that old joke, which is an insult to vegan flu, have you ever seen a vegan smiling? we have seen lots of them smiling this morning. the flavour has increased. for most people now it is more of what is a flexible diet. that is where you might take some meat products but increase your plant uptake. if you're a bit like me you go with what you fancy at the time. the big question for me when i leave this morning will i go for that bacon sandwich like i usually do on the train, or will i opt for something plant based? decisions, decisions. ithink something plant based? decisions, decisions. i think i something plant based? decisions, decisions. ithink i know what the answer to that question is. all the way. you know me too well. nina, thank you. i am a fan of falafel. share you know me too well. nina, thank you. i am a fan of falafel.— you. i am a fan of falafel. are you? good for you! _ you. i am a fan of falafel. are you? good for you! marvellous. - you. i am a fan of falafel. are you? good for you! marvellous. oh, i you. i am a fan of falafel. are you? | good for you! marvellous. oh, dear. good foryou! marvellous. oh, dear. it is 24 minutes past eight. you watching breakfast. we'll meet the man who took up running ultra marathons after being told he could be dead from prostate cancer within two years. that was seven years ago — and he's now clocked up 15,000 miles. time now to get the news, travel and weather where you are. good morning. homeless charities in london are warning _ good morning. homeless charities in london are warning higher— good morning. homeless charities in london are warning higher numbersl good morning. homeless charities in | london are warning higher numbers of women face being on the streets this winter as some of the government's support schemes such as furlough and the eviction ban come to an end. some shelters have already seen a rise in women needing temporary accommodation. one centre in kings cross says requests for help have more than doubled in a year. compared to last summer there was around 10% of young people who access our services were young access oui’ services were young women. access our services were young women. that has dramatically increased this year. it is now at 35%. approaching this for a wide range of reasons, so domestic violence situations throughout the pandemic, more young women losing theirjobs as a result of the pandemic and therefore are unable to manage independently and find themselves in situations of homelessness. the government says tackling homelessness remains an absolute priority and an unprecedented £750 million is being spent this year. a murder investigation is under way in twickenham after a teenager was stabbed to death on a playing field yesterday afternoon. detectives say a number of people filmed the attack on the 18—year—old in cranford way and are appealing for them not to share the footage on social media. a woman has been injured in a blaze at a block of flats in battersea. the building in westbridge road was evacuated after a flat on the 20th floor caught light. the woman left before crews arrived and was treated for breathing in smoke. there are concerns that some of london's green spaces are becoming a dumping ground for unwanted exotic pets. two turtles were spotted in the lakes in bushy park in south west london as well as a giant crab. and a large lobster was recently pulled out of the ladies pond in hampstead heath. wildlife experts warn it could upset the ecosystem. travel now. onto the weather now. good morning. we are still looking at a largely settled day today. high pressure still centred to the south—west of the uk but it is dragging in a little more cloud. one or two spots, a bright start this morning further east. quickly the cloud will move in from the west. the cloud thick enough to produce in part one or two spots of rain. gradually dry as we head through the afternoon. largely overcast throughout, maybe one or two brighter spells. temperatures today reaching a maximum of 17 celsius. not feeling too chilly at all. overnight we will hang on to the cloud. it should however stay largely dry — one or two breaks in the cloud leading to one or two clearer spells. minimum temperature somewhere between 8 and 10 celsius in central london. thursday again it is looking largely cloudy. you can see the high pressure slowly slipping away. the wind strengthens on thursday afternoon and we will see more cloud as we head overnight. that is a cold front. it might linger into friday morning but gradually clearing to a brighter afternoon on friday. introduces some chilly air. i'll be back in half an hour. back to charlie and sally. bye for now. hello, this is breakfast with sally nugent and charlie stayt. earlier on in the programme we saw mike tindall meeting people with parkinson's disease, a disease which his dad has been living with. he joins us now. we have rick on the sofa from a charity cure parkinson's. he was diagnosed with the disease. great to see you. we work together last week and the incredible filmy has shared with everyone this morning. now the dust has settled and you have had time to think about it, what are your reflections on that day in meeting those other people and their families who had been diagnosed? i just thought it was a massively valuable experience. it is always interesting to sort of see other people's jenny and actually associate myjourney with my dad or how i felt his journey has been with other people. david was very linked to how my dad was, had a similar amount of time, a similar age, and it wasa amount of time, a similar age, and it was a similar progression for him. with omotolo, thought they had at 29 and was put off from getting tested. ignoring the symptoms for two or three years. if we can get to a point where we talked about sharing the database of people stories that people can use as a knowledge bank make you create something that is really useful. i was lucky enough to meet your mum and dad at the start of the summer. how is your dad at the moment? he is ok, i ink. how is your dad at the moment? he is ok. i ink- l — how is your dad at the moment? he is ok. i ink. i have _ how is your dad at the moment? he is ok, i ink. i have not— how is your dad at the moment? he is ok, i ink. i have not got— how is your dad at the moment? he is ok, i ink. i have not got to _ how is your dad at the moment? he: 3 ok, i ink. i have not got to see him really since we were up there. —— i think. he is what he is. he has had good days with his meds and bad days with his meds and we pray he has more good days than bad days. it is not quite as crazy as it was before with both being on the vulnerable list. they are trying to get back out, get back out there and enjoy themselves a bit more which takes themselves a bit more which takes the strain off my mum things more enjoyable. the strain off my mum things more en'o able. w' , the strain off my mum things more en'o able. w , ., ,., enjoyable. picking up on some thouuhts enjoyable. picking up on some thoughts from _ enjoyable. picking up on some thoughts from that _ enjoyable. picking up on some thoughts from that film i enjoyable. picking up on some| thoughts from that film people enjoyable. picking up on some i thoughts from that film people will have seen earlier. i am always amazed at people speaking so openly about when they first knew it was affecting them. you had your own experience. you are diagnosed in 2017. what about that time for you? inevitably confusing. as mike was commenting, it was a process of working — commenting, it was a process of working up— commenting, it was a process of working up to realising i had parkinson's. initially i had struggled to walk and then i thought i had a _ struggled to walk and then i thought i had a problem with my leg. then i had raging — i had a problem with my leg. then i had raging anxiety making it different difficult to talk to people. it was only when i went to my gp _ people. it was only when i went to my gp he — people. it was only when i went to my gp he sent me down the path of seeing _ my gp he sent me down the path of seeing a _ my gp he sent me down the path of seeing a neurologist i realised what was going _ seeing a neurologist i realised what was going on was one story that was causing _ was going on was one story that was causing all— was going on was one story that was causing all of those issues. when you get— causing all of those issues. when you get a — causing all of those issues. when you get a diagnosis, it is a pretty bleak— you get a diagnosis, it is a pretty bleak day~ — you get a diagnosis, it is a pretty bleak day. your whole life has to be recalibrated. what does this mean for nry— recalibrated. what does this mean for my family? what does this mean for my family? what does this mean for nry— for my family? what does this mean for my career? what does it mean for the rest _ for my career? what does it mean for the rest of— for my career? what does it mean for the rest of my life? a significant and profound moment that needs a lot of processing. we and profound moment that needs a lot of processing-— of processing. we met 'ust a couple of processing. we met 'ust a couple of minutes ago. i i of processing. we metjust a couple of minutes ago. i could _ of processing. we metjust a couple of minutes ago. i could be - of minutes ago. i could be speaking to you with no idea you have parkinson's. there may be conceptions about what people with parkinson's look like, they may think of the shakes and other symptoms. you appear to have none? i am lucky. i have lots of symptoms but most of my symptoms are non—visible. i do not shake. it affects my digestion. i have slept ten times may be through the night in the past four years messy you can imagine how difficult that gets after a period of time. anxiety is a problem. you can appreciate how much of a challenge this is for me this morning. of a challenge this is for me this morninu. ., ., ., of a challenge this is for me this i morning._ before morning. you are doing fine. before i not morning. you are doing fine. before i got diagnosed _ morning. you are doing fine. before i got diagnosed and _ morning. you are doing fine. before i got diagnosed and started i morning. you are doing fine. before i got diagnosed and started taking l i got diagnosed and started taking drugs, i was very much worse than i am now. the drugs are holding me in am now. the drugs are holding me in a reasonable position. i could not walk more than a mile and a half before i could start taking drugs. i started taking drugs and that has improved. none of the drugs that are available lustful long—term. they do not slow the progression or stop it. —— last for a long—term. everyone who is diagnosed with parkinson's essentially has a clock. that is why as a charity, the focus is single—mindedly finding something thatis single—mindedly finding something that is a cure, that slows, stops or reverses the condition.— reverses the condition. talking about something _ reverses the condition. talking about something we _ reverses the condition. talking about something we have i reverses the condition. talking i about something we have spoken about at length. the experience is different from every person. maybe drugs do work on some occasions and do not work at other times. what you want to do a simply provide more information, and resourceful people. at the moment there is not a clear path,is at the moment there is not a clear path, is there? at the moment there is not a clear path. is there?— at the moment there is not a clear path, is there? there is not a clear one ath path, is there? there is not a clear one path medication. _ path, is there? there is not a clear one path medication. as _ path, is there? there is not a clear one path medication. as rick i path, is there? there is not a clear one path medication. as rick sortl path, is there? there is not a clear. one path medication. as rick sort of summed _ one path medication. as rick sort of summed up — one path medication. as rick sort of summed up very well, a lot of his symptoms— summed up very well, a lot of his symptoms are non—visible. he might be on _ symptoms are non—visible. he might be on different drugs to someone who has more _ be on different drugs to someone who has more visible signs, whether freezing, — has more visible signs, whether freezing, shaking, whatever. every neurologist you will see will have a slightly— neurologist you will see will have a slightly differently because the people they have met have had different — people they have met have had different symptoms also. it is a very— different symptoms also. it is a very confusing condition also because _ very confusing condition also because no one is ever the same. it is verym _ because no one is ever the same. it is very... people not often appreciate it. with rick you would not know — appreciate it. with rick you would not know he has symptoms but he has. there _ not know he has symptoms but he has. there might _ not know he has symptoms but he has. there might be a small thing people .et there might be a small thing people get irritated at because you do not associate — get irritated at because you do not associate it with a condition. he is too quiet. — associate it with a condition. he is too quiet, too shy, too standoffish. that is— too quiet, too shy, too standoffish. that is the — too quiet, too shy, too standoffish. that is the biggest thing i learn every— that is the biggest thing i learn every time i meet someone new who has parkinson's, it is different and different— has parkinson's, it is different and different things work for them. we are going — different things work for them. we are going up to the belfry today to play golf _ are going up to the belfry today to play golf with a lot of people with parkinson's, sort of ryder cup format. — parkinson's, sort of ryder cup format, which i am looking forward to. i format, which i am looking forward to i will— format, which i am looking forward to i will see — format, which i am looking forward to. iwill see more people format, which i am looking forward to. i will see more people who will display— to. i will see more people who will display symptoms in a different way. sport came _ display symptoms in a different way. sport came out of it, health, fitness. _ sport came out of it, health, fitness, diet, allthings sport came out of it, health, fitness, diet, all things that will keep— fitness, diet, all things that will keep we — fitness, diet, all things that will keep we occurring. if we can get that message out as a basic starting point, _ that message out as a basic starting point, then— that message out as a basic starting point, then it is having a good neurologist, having a gp to find the film neurologist, having a gp to find the right medications to give you the quality—of—life that you want. picking — quality—of—life that you want. picking up on one thing rick was talking about, their sense of a clock ticking for the individual and the knock—on effect of that for friends, family, loved ones, who are having to support and help. what has that been like for you? i having to support and help. what has that been like for you?— that been like for you? i have soken that been like for you? i have spoken about _ that been like for you? i have spoken about this _ that been like for you? i have spoken about this before i that been like for you? i have spoken about this before in i that been like for you? i have i spoken about this before in terms of the blase _ spoken about this before in terms of the blase attitude i had when my dad told me _ the blase attitude i had when my dad told me i_ the blase attitude i had when my dad told me. iwas the blase attitude i had when my dad told me. i was 24 years old, 25, in the middle — told me. i was 24 years old, 25, in the middle of my rugby career. he told me _ the middle of my rugby career. he told me in— the middle of my rugby career. he told me in the world cup. it was the peak of— told me in the world cup. it was the peak of my— told me in the world cup. it was the peak of my career. i probably did not pay— peak of my career. i probably did not pay it— peak of my career. i probably did not pay it enough service. there was nowhere _ not pay it enough service. there was nowhere near as much information out there _ nowhere near as much information out there to _ nowhere near as much information out there to go _ nowhere near as much information out there to go and get it. he went... there _ there to go and get it. he went... there wasn't _ there to go and get it. he went... there wasn't really even the internet _ there wasn't really even the internet but you went and did some research _ internet but you went and did some research. you got muhammad ali. i would _ research. you got muhammad ali. i would look— research. you got muhammad ali. i would look at my dad and muhammad ali and _ would look at my dad and muhammad ali and then, he is a boxer, he has been _ ali and then, he is a boxer, he has been hit _ ali and then, he is a boxer, he has been hit in — ali and then, he is a boxer, he has been hit in the head a lot. he is not the — been hit in the head a lot. he is not the same guy. i do not see how that guy— not the same guy. i do not see how that guy gets to that guy. i am quite _ that guy gets to that guy. i am quite happy to say i probably ignored _ quite happy to say i probably ignored a lot of it for ten years and then— ignored a lot of it for ten years and then it _ ignored a lot of it for ten years and then it has really been the last ten years— and then it has really been the last ten years i— and then it has really been the last ten years i have gone, wow, i need to do— ten years i have gone, wow, i need to do something, i need to try and help out — to do something, i need to try and help out. that is constant. i am a long _ help out. that is constant. i am a long way— help out. that is constant. i am a long way from my folks. a lot lies on the _ long way from my folks. a lot lies on the doorstep of my brother who is 'ust on the doorstep of my brother who is just round _ on the doorstep of my brother who is just round the corner. it is not easy. — just round the corner. it is not easy, not— just round the corner. it is not easy, not easy. you want your mum and dad — easy, not easy. you want your mum and dad to— easy, not easy. you want your mum and dad to always be happy. it should — and dad to always be happy. it should not fall on the shoulders of my mum _ should not fall on the shoulders of my mum and dad to take on the burden of being— my mum and dad to take on the burden of being a— my mum and dad to take on the burden of being a carer. as we said in the video. _ of being a carer. as we said in the video. she — of being a carer. as we said in the video. she is— of being a carer. as we said in the video, she is not a carer, she is a wife, _ video, she is not a carer, she is a wife, she — video, she is not a carer, she is a wife, she is— video, she is not a carer, she is a wife, she is said to love her husband _ wife, she is said to love her husband and he is there to love her. the burden— husband and he is there to love her. the burden that comes with it, it can create — the burden that comes with it, it can create tension and banks. as rick— can create tension and banks. as rick would — can create tension and banks. as rick would probably explain, you can .et rick would probably explain, you can get frustrated with your partner. anxiety— get frustrated with your partner. anxiety can make you confused and argumentative and sometimes make you not a nice _ argumentative and sometimes make you not a nice person, which can happen to my— not a nice person, which can happen to my dad _ not a nice person, which can happen to my dad every now and again. that is not _ to my dad every now and again. that is not what _ to my dad every now and again. that is not what my mum is therefore. she is not what my mum is therefore. she is said _ is not what my mum is therefore. she is said to _ is not what my mum is therefore. she is said to be _ is not what my mum is therefore. she is said to be by his side. she has been _ is said to be by his side. she has been for— is said to be by his side. she has been for over 50 years and you're supposed — been for over 50 years and you're supposed to grow old and it was said in the _ supposed to grow old and it was said in the video. — supposed to grow old and it was said in the video, it is notjust a person— in the video, it is notjust a person that gets diagnosed with parkinson's, it is the family that gets— parkinson's, it is the family that gets diagnosed because it affects everyone and everyone is part of it. i am _ everyone and everyone is part of it. i am sure _ everyone and everyone is part of it. i am sure you — everyone and everyone is part of it. i am sure you would agree with what was said. ~ ~ .,, i am sure you would agree with what was said. ~ ~' ., ., ,., i am sure you would agree with what was said. ~ ~' ., ., ,, , was said. mike has made some key oints. was said. mike has made some key points. parkinson's _ was said. mike has made some key points. parkinson's is _ was said. mike has made some key points. parkinson's is a _ was said. mike has made some key points. parkinson's is a very i points. parkinson's is a very complicated condition. when a diagnosis is given, it is very tempting to try and learn everything about parkinson's. i have not managed that so far in the four years of diagnosis. my reflections are it is something that needs to be [and and understood on an ongoing land and understood on an ongoing basis and it is a journey the whole family will need to go on. as mike said. when i was diagnosed my daughter was seven years old. that was difficult. mike's to point in terms of a loved one becoming a carer is important. nobody has signed up for that. it does create a whole new world that needs negotiating. i whole new world that needs negotiating-— whole new world that needs neurotiatin. , ., ,. whole new world that needs neurotiatin. , ., , . ., negotiating. i 'ust saw a picture of ou with a negotiating. ijust saw a picture of you with a sombrero _ negotiating. ijust saw a picture of you with a sombrero on. i negotiating. ijust saw a picture of you with a sombrero on. nice i negotiating. ijust saw a picture of i you with a sombrero on. nice seeing you with a sombrero on. nice seeing you with a sombrero on. nice seeing you with the family. it is you with a sombrero on. nice seeing you with the family.— you with the family. it is very much a case of maximising _ you with the family. it is very much a case of maximising the _ you with the family. it is very much a case of maximising the momentsj you with the family. it is very much i a case of maximising the moments now while the drugs are working and climbing the hills. we walk as a family a lot. before i started to take drugs, i could not walk for a mile and a half on flat ground. the fact that drugs have given me respite is something i will take full advantage of.— respite is something i will take full advantage of. great to hear. thank you _ full advantage of. great to hear. thank you for— full advantage of. great to hear. thank you for coming _ full advantage of. great to hear. thank you for coming in. i full advantage of. great to hear. thank you for coming in. mike, | full advantage of. great to hear. i thank you for coming in. mike, thank you for everything and filming with us last week and sharing your mum and dads story. thank you, mike tindall. now for a last look at the weather. today will be fairly cloudy for most of us. some spots of rain but many of us. some spots of rain but many of us. some spots of rain but many of us will miss them all together and it will stay dry. in east anglia last night the temperature was close to freezing. this weather front is weak and crossing. it will cloud over as it is now in east anglia with the odd spot of rain and the same in the south—west of england. cloud is enough to break in the afternoon. showers prevailing across the north and west of scotland. temperatures ranging from 12 to 17 degrees meant not as cool as yesterday in eastern coastal counties. this evening and overnight we hang on to a lot of plaid. where it breaks temperatures will fall away, particularly general areas. we continue with this showers ? it occurred there showers in the north and west. these are overnight lows in towns and cities. tomorrow we will start off with some rain across northern scotland. it will be heady as it moves slowly southwards, weakening through the course of the day. by the time it gets to northern england and northern ireland, their wenzel gas together. in the north of scotland. in england and wales a fair bit of cloud around. you might see the odd spot of rain. thank you. one of the unexpected highlights of lockdown last year was discovering that our bbc weather presenter 0wain wyn evans is a whizz on the drums. now he's putting those skills to good use with a 24 hour 'drumathon' to raise money for children in need. 0wain, take it away... here we go! amazing. iam amazing. i am looking forward to 24—hour is of that. filth. amazing. i am looking forward to 24-hour is of that.— 24-hour is of that. oh, my gosh! there is a — 24-hour is of that. oh, my gosh! there is a lot _ 24-hour is of that. oh, my gosh! there is a lot of _ 24-hour is of that. oh, my gosh! there is a lot of face _ 24-hour is of that. oh, my gosh! there is a lot of face action i 24-hour is of that. oh, my gosh! j there is a lot of face action going on. i never noticed. i there is a lot of face action going on. i never noticed.— on. i never noticed. icannot control it- — on. i never noticed. icannot control it. we _ on. i never noticed. icannot control it. we are _ on. i never noticed. icannot control it. we are finding i on. i never noticed. icannot control it. we are finding a l on. i never noticed. i cannot i control it. we are finding a little bit about your _ control it. we are finding a little bit about your story. _ control it. we are finding a little bit about your story. it i control it. we are finding a little bit about your story. it is i bit about your story. it is interesting _ bit about your story. it is interesting how i i bit about your story. it is interesting how i got i bit about your story. it is interesting how i got to i bit about your story. it 3 interesting how i got to hear. breakfast�*s jayne mccubbin went with me to my hometown of ammanford, in south wales, to show her where it all began. we are taking 0wain home. here we are. back to wales. back to ammanford. hello! mum and dad! back to his mum and dad. jayne. alan, cathy, my parents. chris on camera. you've brought the obligatory embarrassing baby photos. well, we have a couple here, yes. there you go. a dedicated follower of fashion. even then i tried to work an outfit. 0wain wyn evans, flamboyant weather presenter, was born with a shock of red hair in ammanford in 1984. and from an early age he wondered if he would ever really fit in. cathy's father wasi a mining engineer. my father was a coal miner. 84 when you were born. that's when we had the miners' strike. i remember i had this pink moped. it was the most flamboyant bike you could imagine. always interested in things you wouldn't expect. the drums as a four—year—old. then we started on the disco lights. what is the glitter ball? yes. a smoke machine. we thought the shed was on fire. but it was the smoke machine. ammanford had never seen anything like this, i would imagine? i don't suppose, no! but none of this was easy in the former mining town. you know, i knew i was gay from a young age, but here in ammanford there was just no reference point as far as that went, wasn't there? one thing really helped. i came across them today. in the garden, in the shed, behind some chairs. i they make excellent tool handles. oh, my god! i think here i would have been about 17 or 18. the overtones was a school band. could you fully be yourself then? had you come out at that point? no, i hadn't come out. at this stage section 28 was still a thing. somebody like me wouldn't be able to be taught anything about someone like me. even though i came out to some of my friends, i was absolutely not out. i went back into the closet when i got myjob with the bbc. ifelt like i had to. it was a weird time. the drums was definitely something that helped me through that, 100%. he'sjust 0wain. it doesn't make any difference. no. hasn't changed at all. no, he isjust 0wain and we love him to bits. so chris is in here. chris! we have come to me to the overtones' bass guitarist in the rugby club. take me back. what was he like? a force of nature. loud. i wasn't that loud. you were! you might not think you were loud, but you were. i remember him coming out to me. like, i knew. no biggie. it was amazing, actually, because the reaction from a lot of people was very different. it wasn't a happy time. while we are here, something for you to see. what is on the board? mr evans. my grandfather. he was the only captain i of the cricket in the rugby at the same season. talk about ben stokes and flintoff, i think that man... _ i didn't inherit any of the sport interest from him! but hitting things, absolutely. lots has changed here in ammanford since 0wain was a boy. i brought you to the pensioners' hall in the centre of ammanford, because inside is something really rather special. it's a project funded by children in need. oh, wow! which i know you are going to be bowled over by. mess up the mess theatre company makes theatre with, by and for young people. some young people come because they don't fit in at school. other young people come because they are a young carer. somebody else might come because it is an lgbtq space. this is quite emotionalfor me because such a thing just wasn't here when i was in ammanford. without mess up the mess i don't think i would be here today. i when i firstjoined - i was going through a lot. i had come out to a couple of people, but no family. i when i came here the idea - of being able to express myself, i could be loud and cheerful and just be myself. - as you said, it's life saving and potentially life changing. i wish i could give you both a big ammanford hug. you have been amazing. thank you. i love you! can i just say thank you so much? it has been so great meeting you all today. and what a place! i just wish that mess up the mess existed when i was here in ammanford. keep being fabulous. thank you all. applause. thank you! isn't that gorgeous?! it must have been lovely to go and meet those children and see the sort of work that can be done and how important it is. it that can be done and how important it is. . , that can be done and how important it is. ., , , that can be done and how important itis. , , it is. it was, sadly, absolutely. i have such _ it is. it was, sadly, absolutely. i have such a _ it is. it was, sadly, absolutely. i have such a fondness _ it is. it was, sadly, absolutely. i have such a fondness for - it is. it was, sadly, absolutely. i- have such a fondness for ammanford, home is home at the end of the day. my home is home at the end of the day. my experience was very different from the experience people growing up from the experience people growing up now are having. it is great to see what was going on and how children in need has helped. it is incredible when you go into a project like that and see it first—hand and see the joy in people's faces. was lovely to go back there and see my gorgeous parents, who i adore. the? back there and see my gorgeous parents, who i adore. they seem absolutely _ parents, who i adore. they seem absolutely lovely. _ parents, who i adore. they seem absolutely lovely. the _ parents, who i adore. they seem absolutely lovely. the crossoverl absolutely lovely. the crossover here, which is generally there is a lot of work for people who need help and are not getting it could be mental health support. your friend chris was at the rugby club. you told me he was your best mate. he alluded to difficult times he had had. i know you are a very brilliant character. you are full of life. one of those moments, a comment from him obviously alludes to a time that was not so great. obviously alludes to a time that was not so great-— not so great. absolutely, charlie. when i grew _ not so great. absolutely, charlie. when i grew up — not so great. absolutely, charlie. when i grew up in _ not so great. absolutely, charlie. when i grew up in ammanford . not so great. absolutely, charlie. when i grew up in ammanford it| not so great. absolutely, charlie. i when i grew up in ammanford it was not so great. absolutely, charlie. - when i grew up in ammanford it was a very different place. growing up as a 93v very different place. growing up as a gay man into the 805 and 905 section 28 list anything and i couldn't speak about who i was essentially and there were no reference points. ifelt essentially and there were no reference points. i felt like essentially and there were no reference points. ifelt like the only gay in the village, literally. that is what chris alluded to. coming out was a big thing. because there was no visibility back then, i suppose, it was hard, really difficult. ifeel very suppose, it was hard, really difficult. i feel very fortunate that i have a lovely family, had great friends, and the drums also helped me through that. that is why this is so important. hour helped me through that. that is why this is so important.— this is so important. how did they hel ? this is so important. how did they hel? in this is so important. how did they help? in what _ this is so important. how did they help? in what way? _ this is so important. how did they help? in what way? i _ this is so important. how did they help? in what way? i have - this is so important. how did they help? in what way? i have loved l this is so important. how did they i help? in what way? i have loved the drum since — help? in what way? i have loved the drum since i — help? in what way? i have loved the drum since i was _ help? in what way? i have loved the drum since i was a _ help? in what way? i have loved the drum since i was a child. _ help? in what way? i have loved the drum since i was a child. my - help? in what way? i have loved the drum since i was a child. my poor. drum since i was a child. my poor neighbours throughout the whole course of my drumming! for me, drumming often takes me away. i get behind the drum kit or whatever drum i am playing, there is me going for it in front of my radiator. you said earlier, my face! i cannot control my expressions because it is pure j°y my expressions because it is pure joy for me. there is a challenge for children in need is going to be fun but it is still me playing the drums. 24—hour is. the bbc breakfast drumathon, i will be playing the drums for 24—hour. ijust bashed pudsey in the year! you drums for 24-hour. i 'ust bashed pudsey in the year!_ pudsey in the year! you are not allowed to _ pudsey in the year! you are not allowed to do _ pudsey in the year! you are not allowed to do that. _ pudsey in the year! you are not allowed to do that. at - pudsey in the year! you are not allowed to do that. at the - pudsey in the year! you are not. allowed to do that. at the moment pudsey in the year! you are not - allowed to do that. at the moment i have to do two _ allowed to do that. at the moment i have to do two hours _ allowed to do that. at the moment i have to do two hours in _ allowed to do that. at the moment i have to do two hours in the - allowed to do that. at the moment i have to do two hours in the gym - have to do two hours in the gym every day and play the drums for two hours a day. it has started to take its toll on my hands a bit. couple of blisters for you. they will only get worse. playing the drums for 24—hour it is difficult on many levels. i have two playing the drums and interview and chat to people. they are making you work as well? they are making you work as well? they are making me work. i am not just playing the hits for 24—hour is. just playing the hits for 24-hour is. . , just playing the hits for 24-hour is. ., , , just playing the hits for 24-hour is. . , just playing the hits for 24-hour is. can i 'ust say, you are always so is. can ijust say, you are always so dapper- _ is. can ijust say, you are always so dapper- will— is. can ijust say, you are always so dapper. will you _ is. can ijust say, you are always so dapper. will you be _ is. can ijust say, you are always so dapper. will you be equally . is. can ijust say, you are always i so dapper. will you be equally well dressed for the 24—hour? how are you going to do it? i dressed for the 24-hour? how are you going to do it?— going to do it? i might have to dress down — going to do it? i might have to dress down a _ going to do it? i might have to dress down a bit. _ going to do it? i might have to dress down a bit. i _ going to do it? i might have to dress down a bit. i like - going to do it? i might have to dress down a bit. i like a - going to do it? i might have to dress down a bit. i like a little| dress down a bit. i like a little furnishing on the lapel and i'm never seen without my three piece. playing the drums for 24—hour senate 3—piece suit will be challenging. what do you wear for that? no idea, i have not thought about it. it will have to be something flamboyant. find out more on the website. it is incredible. children in need to say many great things for charities and groups across the uk. more than 100 of which are music based. drumming is important. the value of those projects alone is 4.7 million. and projects alone is 4.7 million. and ou are projects alone is 4.7 million. and you are going _ projects alone is 4.7 million. and you are going to _ projects alone is 4.7 million. and you are going to start on breakfast and end on breakfast? i’m you are going to start on breakfast and end on breakfast? i'm starting it in this very _ and end on breakfast? i'm starting it in this very room. _ and end on breakfast? i'm starting it in this very room. the _ and end on breakfast? i'm starting | it in this very room. the percussive rincess it in this very room. the percussive princess over _ it in this very room. the percussive princess over there. _ it in this very room. the percussive princess over there. if _ it in this very room. the percussive princess over there. if you - it in this very room. the percussive princess over there. if you are - princess over there. if you are starting there, you going to be wheeled out... anyway, we will work out the details. good luck. very good luck. let's find out how you can support that challenge. if you would like to support owain's drumathon challenge event,. thank you. well, today is the day for william shatner, the actor famous for playing captain kirk will boldly go where a few men and a few women have been before. space. he goes to space all the edge of space, if you are being picky. he will become the oldest person ever to play and hejoined will become the oldest person ever to play and he joined three others on board the new blue origins rocket, owned byjeff bezos. we can speak now to one of william shatner�*s good friends. the singer ben folds joins us from north carolina. how will he be feeling now? i'd talk to him right before i opened the phone to find out he will be going into space last week. he is a great fella. i am sure he will be wetting himself right now. he fella. i am sure he will be wetting himself right now.— himself right now. he is quite the adventure. _ himself right now. he is quite the adventure, isn't _ himself right now. he is quite the adventure, isn't he? _ himself right now. he is quite the adventure, isn't he? he - himself right now. he is quite the adventure, isn't he? he is- himself right now. he is quite the adventure, isn't he? he is pretty| adventure, isn't he? he is pretty fearless. adventure, isn't he? he is pretty fearless- i— adventure, isn't he? he is pretty fearless. i guess _ adventure, isn't he? he is pretty fearless. i guess that _ adventure, isn't he? he is pretty fearless. i guess that is - adventure, isn't he? he is pretty fearless. i guess that is why - adventure, isn't he? he is pretty fearless. i guess that is why he l adventure, isn't he? he is pretty| fearless. i guess that is why he is 90 and he seems like he is 40 or something. he is a freak. tell 90 and he seems like he is 40 or something. he is a freak.- 90 and he seems like he is 40 or something. he is a freak. tell us a little better— something. he is a freak. tell us a little better about _ something. he is a freak. tell us a little better about his _ something. he is a freak. tell us a little better about his character. i think we know him as a larger—than—life character. he is full on, isn't he? do you have any worries about him in the spacecraft, how he will behave. i worries about him in the spacecraft, how he will behave.— how he will behave. i think he will behave just _ how he will behave. i think he will behave just fine. _ how he will behave. i think he will behave just fine. he _ how he will behave. i think he will behave just fine. he does - how he will behave. i think he will behave just fine. he does push i how he will behave. i think he will| behave just fine. he does push the boundaries of stuff. we were working with an orangutan one time and the trainer kept telling build things not to do with the orangutan because he was like, this thing will rip you limb from he was like, this thing will rip you limbfrom limb he was like, this thing will rip you limb from limb if you do the wrong thing, and he kept on pushing it. he is fearless. i think he is also... his than life personality carries through. this is the way he is. we were working with an orangutan, you just slept in! i was not expecting that. ~ . . , just slept in! i was not expecting that. . ., ., ., just slept in! i was not expecting that. . . . . that. what was that? that was the music video _ that. what was that? that was the music video and _ that. what was that? that was the music video and he _ that. what was that? that was the music video and he was _ that. what was that? that was the music video and he was playing . that. what was that? that was the | music video and he was playing the music video and he was playing the music engineer in the video. it was starring me and an orangutan and bell, who was doing a cameo. and he wasjust... no one can really bell, who was doing a cameo. and he was just... no one can really tell him what to do. mr shatner, don't play with the orangutan, don't look him in the eye and stuff. everything they told him to do, they did the opposite ? as he did the opposite until the orangutan grabbed him by the arm really hard. i think he realised that it was maybe time to back off. he realised that it was maybe time to back off. , , , , ., realised that it was maybe time to back off. , , , i. ~ ., back off. he pushes it, you know. i love the way _ back off. he pushes it, you know. i love the way to _ back off. he pushes it, you know. i love the way to us _ back off. he pushes it, you know. i love the way to us he _ back off. he pushes it, you know. i love the way to us he is _ back off. he pushes it, you know. i love the way to us he is william - love the way to us he is william shatner, very formally, and to you he is bell. essentially he is a cowboy, isn't he? he he is bell. essentially he is a cowboy, isn't he? he is bell. essentially he is a cowbo , isn't he? . , , cowboy, isn't he? he actually is. he is, and i cowboy, isn't he? he actually is. he is. and i suppose — cowboy, isn't he? he actually is. he is, and i suppose when _ cowboy, isn't he? he actually is. he is, and i suppose when you - cowboy, isn't he? he actually is. he is, and i suppose when you have - cowboy, isn't he? he actually is. he| is, and i suppose when you have had as long as excess as he has, there is something to it. you know what i mean? maybe it may confuse some people as to why someone like him has been successful. a long and it is because you cannot do without him. you really cannot. when he speaks great unison. he does something, you watch it. he is magnetic. —— he speaks, you listen. he is not being funny and he is being funny at the same time. i do not know if that makes any sense. one line from his famous star trek captain kirk well you would like to hear him say in space?! captain kirk well you would like to hear him say in space?— hear him say in space? i haven't seen that _ hear him say in space? i haven't seen that in _ hear him say in space? i haven't seen that in forever _ hear him say in space? i haven't seen that in forever so - hear him say in space? i haven't seen that in forever so i - hear him say in space? i haven'tj seen that in forever so i couldn't even quote much star trek. sorry. i even quote much star trek. sorry. i am sure you will be watching with interest like all of us well, watching captain james interest like all of us well, watching captainjames to go into space. watching captain james to go into sace. ~ , ,., y watching captain james to go into sace. ~ , , watching captain james to go into sace. , , ,., space. absolutely. i was very proud to net u- space. absolutely. i was very proud to get up early _ space. absolutely. i was very proud to get up early and _ space. absolutely. i was very proud to get up early and be _ space. absolutely. i was very proud to get up early and be part - space. absolutely. i was very proud to get up early and be part of - space. absolutely. i was very proud to get up early and be part of their| to get up early and be part of their sin anyway. to get up early and be part of their sin anyway-— to get up early and be part of their sinan a. ., ,~/ ,, ., sin anyway. lovely to speak to you. ? is this in — sin anyway. lovely to speak to you. ? is this in anyway. _ good morning, welcome to bbc news. i'm victoria derbyshire. here are the headlines this wednesday morning... the european union is to set out its plan to cut red tape and reduce checks on goods moving between great britain and northern ireland. it is to try to end the row with the uk about post brexit checks. it is incumbent upon us as a government and i think it incumbent on the eu to make sure we have a sustainable future arrangement and it's not working at the moment and it's not working at the moment and it is in the interests of both sides to get on that stable footing. fears of stock shortages at christmas at britain's biggest commercial port, felixstowe struggles with a backlog of shipping containers. a crisis in care — a shortfall of more than 100,000 workers means people are waiting longer for care,

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