every week on energy. some companies sayjob losses could come soon. wales keep their world cup dreams alive. a scrappy win in estonia keeps their hopes of at least a play—off place in their own hands. good morning. some of us were lucky enough last night to see the northern lights, more especially across northern scotland and also the northern isles. this morning where we had clear skies it would be a chilly start. today will be mostly cloudy with spots of light rain and drizzle. the best of the sunshine in the west. the details later in the programme. it's tuesday 12th october. the government's early response to coronavirus has been described as one of the uk's worst public health failures by a cross—party group of mps. the study by two commons committees found that both ministers and scientists waited too long to bring in lockdowns, costing many lives. but they did praise the speed of the vaccine rollout. 0ur health correspondent, jim reed, reports. we are still living three, says this report, the biggest health crisis of the last 100 years.— the last 100 years. millions have been infected, _ the last 100 years. millions have been infected, many _ the last 100 years. millions have been infected, many thousandsl the last 100 years. millions have. been infected, many thousands of lives have been lost to covid. idietitian lives have been lost to covid. when we will peeple _ lives have been lost to covid. when we will people from _ lives have been lost to covid. when we will people from wuhan - lives have been lost to covid. when we will people from wuhan in - we will people from wuhan in january... we will people from wuhan in january- - -_ we will people from wuhan in january. .. for a year now, two influential _ january. .. for a year now, two influential groups _ january. .. for a year now, two influential groups of _ january. .. for a year now, two influential groups of mps - january. .. for a year now, two influential groups of mps have i january. .. for a year now, two - influential groups of mps have been taking evidence on the pandemic from people involved in key decisions at the time. now in this report, they strongly criticise the early response. instead of looking down hard and fast like some other countries, they said ministers guided by scientific advisers made a deliberate decision to introduce social distancing rules slowly until the nhs became overwhelmed. mps describe that as a series error which proved fatal to many. we were too slow in that _ which proved fatal to many. we were too slow in that initial _ which proved fatal to many. we were too slow in that initial lockdown. - too slow in that initial lockdown. we were operating in a fog of uncertainty. even big government's advisers, professor neil ferguson, in evidence to my committee said, if we had not week earlier we might even have said half the number of deaths in that initial wave. everyone accepts that we locked down too late. n , everyone accepts that we locked down too late. a ' :: everyone accepts that we locked down toolate. a :: , everyone accepts that we locked down toolate. a :: too late. across 150 pages of the re ort, too late. across 150 pages of the report. there _ too late. across 150 pages of the report, there is _ too late. across 150 pages of the report, there is more _ too late. across 150 pages of the report, there is more criticism. l too late. across 150 pages of the | report, there is more criticism. it describes the roll—out of the test and trace programme in england as slow and chaotic. it says the uk did not impose rigorous border controls, letting in high numbers of infections from france and spain. it criticises the treatment of care homes by saying the risks were not recognised soon enough, leading to devastating and preventable repercussions. the devastating and preventable repercussions.— devastating and preventable repercussions. the report has actually picked _ repercussions. the report has actually picked up _ repercussions. the report has actually picked up things - repercussions. the report has actually picked up things we l repercussions. the report has - actually picked up things we were saying from the outset, that social care was an out the —— afterthought. the mansion was the nhs and we had to keep it safe. what we did not know the discharge out of hospitals was not through testing. the? know the discharge out of hospitals was not through testing.— was not through testing. they were not safe discharges. _ was not through testing. they were not safe discharges. there - was not through testing. they were not safe discharges. there was - not safe discharges. there was praise for parts of the national response. the vaccine programme was described as one of the most effective initiatives in the history of uk science. treatments for covid were singled out as well. one was used widely first in this country and has saved more than a million lives around the world. the government says throughout the pandemic it has been guided by scientific experts and has not shied away from taking quick action, including on lockdown. it says it is committed to learning lessons and will hold a full public enquiry in the spring. jim reed, bbc news. and throughout the morning, we'll be getting reaction to that report. we'll be speaking to a gp, a care home owner and the chair of the science and technology select committee, greg clark. that is live around 7:30am. a support package for firms struggling with the soaring cost of energy could be announced within days. the prime minister is believed to have backed proposals to provide loans worth hundreds of millions of pounds. our business correspondent, theo leggett, reports. forging steel requires a lot of heat and that consumes a great deal of energy. small wonder then that steelmakers want the government to help them cope with a steep rise in energy costs. it isn't just steel. cement manufacturers, chemicals firms, glass—makers and ceramics businesses are also appealing for support. not all companies are affected in the same way by rising costs. some have bought their gas and electricity in advance and are protected from price rises, at least for the time being. 0thers though are not. for them, this is an incredibly serious predicament, leading some to scale back production or to raise product prices. of course the longer this period of high prices continues, the more companies are impacted and the more severe those impacts are and, at some point, it starts to threaten their company viability. the government faces a dilemma. it wants to help viable businesses cope with soaring costs but it doesn't want to prop up failing companies. direct subsidies would add to the burden on taxpayers, while a cap on electricity or gas prices would risk simply passing on extra costs to energy companies. but labour says what businesses are asking for is reasonable. they felt a package of support is needed through the winter when gas and electricity prices are usually higher and to get through this temporary spike in gas and electricity prices. that's what they're looking for. they're not looking for a permanent bailout or a subsidy. what they are looking for is targeted support now, which is what is happening in other european countries. the chancellor now does at least have concrete proposals to look at, passed on by the business secretary after consultations with industry. whatever options he chooses, someone, somewhere is going to have to pay in the end. theo leggett, bbc news. we can speak now to our chief political correspondent adam fleming, who is in westminster this morning. the government hasn't all been saying the same thing on this crisis recently, have they? are we expecting more of a focused line in the next few days. i think they are getting their ducks in a row after we had the business secretary saying he had been talking to the treasury about helping industry is using a lot of energy and the treasury think that he has not, he has not been talking to a subtle which is a bit strange. now they are talking to each other and we understand the energy department has passed a plan to the treasury for helping industries like steel, aluminium, glass and ceramics, who need help because they use so much energy. we think the idea will be based around government guarantees for commercial loans to these companies, to help tide them over. that would be consistent with how the government has been acting all throughout this crisis with energy over the last few months. they do not want to bail out or prop up companies and just having to deal with market forces. the government is prepared to step in and offer a little bit of help to get people through a crisis of the company is viable but they do not want to be putting taxpayer money into companies that should not really be existing. we have seen that with energy companies and now we are seeing it with these industries as well. a little reminder. remember a few weeks ago we were talking about the shortage of carbon dioxide because the fertiliser plant that makes it was shutting down because it could not afford its energy bills. now a deal has been done within the industry itself to keep that plant running until at least january of next year. that is an example of when i was a problem there was a bit of government intervention and it looks like it has been sold. what we are seeing week after week is high energy prices affecting different bits of the economy so you just have to ask what we are going to be talking about next week. in a major speech in front of diplomats later, the brexit minister, lord frost, will stress the need for major changes to post—brexit trading arrangements in northern ireland. it comes after the irish foreign minister accused the uk of undermining eu efforts to resolve problems with the arrangements known as the northern ireland protocol. lord frost says he wants to see the european court ofjustice removed from its oversight role. star trek�*s william shatner is about to make history by becoming the oldest person to travel to space. the actor, best known for playing captain kirk in the 19605 television series, will travel on a rocket developed by amazon founder, jeff bezos. our us correspondent sophie long reports. blue 0rigin is sending a star into space — a nonagenarian science fiction staff. we've delayed 2a hours because of their winds and the enormous concern for our safety, and we welcome that concern. it's been decades since william shatner first donned a space suit for the original ground—breaking star trek series in the 1960s. i won't underestimate him again... now he's about to make history and realise the fantasy he once sang about. # rocket man, burning out his fumes out here alone...#. his highly—anticipated blast—off may be a cunning pr plan but it's reignited interest in this 21st—century space race. richard branson is the first billionaire spaceship owner to travel to the edge of the earth's atmosphere this summer, saying he wanted to inspire the next generation. for all you kids down there, i was once a child with a dream, looking up to the stars. now i'm an adult in a spaceship with lots of other wonderful adults, looking down to our beautiful, beautiful earth. for the next generation of dreamers, if we can do this...just imagine what you can do! just over a week later, amazon and blue 0rigin ownerjeff bezos went further and faster, also saying he was doing it for the kids. they've become the most recognisable faces to float above the earth's service. above the earth's surface. but perhaps currently in first place in this private industry race is elon musk, whose company spacex has developed a spaceship that successfully ferried astronauts to the international space station. it's now working on creating a craft that will take humans to the moon and mars. sophie long, bbc news, west texas. 90 years old! unbelievable. and going into space at some point soon. looks fantastic. i have a feeling we will be keeping an ion that one. definitely. the latest incarnation of superman will come out as bisexual. jonathan kent, the son of clark and lois lane, will share a kiss with his friend jay nakamura, in the forthcoming issue due for release in november. dc comics made the announcement on national coming out day. if we are going to have a new superman in the dc universe, it seems like a missed opportunity. there is a reason why this is coming inissue there is a reason why this is coming in issue five and not issue one. we did not want this to be dc comics creates queer superman. we want this to be he finds himself and comes out. there is a really important distinction there. we're with the outdoor big sky theme. the northern lights you are telling us about yesterday, that looks amazing, doesn't it? this is from caithness. a beautiful picture. we also saw them in shetland and i will bring you more this morning. i will bring you more this morning. i will explain why they happened as well. today fairly cloudy and chilly on the north sea coastline. 0nly on the north sea coastline. only three degrees at the moment in former wissam mist and fog in parts of central southern england and into the south—west and exeter at the moment visibility is around 100 metres. today will be fairly cloudy. some light, patchy rain and drizzle with a weather front coming back across us from the east, drifting best. you can see the rain associated with that. not especially heavy. waking up during the day. in the east it will feel chilly. temperatures between nine and 1a degrees. we are looking at 16 or 17 as maximum temperatures. tonight there will still be a fair bit of cloud around with some drizzle on western facing posts stop the heaviest of the rain will be in the northern isles. these are the overnight lows. we are looking at roughly five to 11. in some rural areas we could get lower than theirs. tomorrow once again will be a fairly cloudy affair. the rain clears. drizzle out towards the west. 0ne clears. drizzle out towards the west. one thing you will will be that bit warmer warmer along the east. do send those pitches in for carol. the people we are going to talk about now, they describe themselves as the club no—one wants to be a part of. a football team of bereaved fathers, united by the loss of a child. angels united fc grew out of an online support group for dads dealing with grief, and players wear the names of their child on the back of their shirt. katie walderman went to meet them. forjake, forjimmy and steve, it is more than a game, more thanjust football. i think it's the fact that they get it. i know that's quite simple but most people don't understand what it's like to lose a child. you get to pull on your baby's shirt and baby's name and get to play in their honour and that's massive. that 90 minutes, whatever it is, that i'm on the field, i play- 120% for him because he'll never get to kick a ball. i you know? i'll never know what he | looked like or anything. jimmy and his partner lost their little boy alfie at 28 weeks. we went into the hospital. and we knew straightaway. when the scanner looked at us, we just spent four| days hugging. that's all you can do. just be there for one another. for myself, i tried i to be the strong one. | i think a lot of men tried to be| strong and i kept everything in. after finding support online from others experiencing the same heartbreak they decided to club together and angels united was formed. it's given me a purpose again. realising you're not on your own, you're not the only person it is happening to. steve and his partner have also been through a number of miscarriages. the names on the shirt aren't actually our names, it's the names of all the children we've lost, the babies. my shirt says arlo because we've had six miscarriages. it's always remember little ones. we probably will name him arlo if we have a little boy in the future. one of the club's newest members is jake. his little girl lily may died last summer from cancer. she was a little princess. cheeky, funny, full of character. she was so loud. loved being centre of attention. she was an absolute angel when she was here. she is an angel now. if we are having a bad day, we know that every member of that team truly knows what we are going through. no—one who i've come across in my life before angels knows what it is like to sit in a room with all of lily's things but _ without lily. i know that we still have a can of beans and sausage because that was the last thing that lily asked for to eat and so we can't get rid of that can. that will sit in our cupboard forever. some people don't want to talk about lily because they think it might be a trigger, it might upset me but actually i want to talk about her because she's still my daughter. it's just that we can't make any new memories but i can still look at the old memories with joy and regardless of the fact sometimes i might get upset _ the next day, the same conversation might fill me with joy and that'sjust part of the process. this month, the club turns one. as part of baby loss awareness week, we join them for a special memorial match. they teamed up with sands united, another team brought together by bereavement. because of what this week represents, i think it will touch base with a lot of players. to have another team that's i celebrating our children means everything to everyone on this pitch. - before kick—off, a minute's silence is held to remember all the lost little ones. being on the pitch with people who have gone through the same things as you, it makes you feel whole again and it gives you a purpose again. i think that is what we've all needed and it all here to support each other. it's notjust playing football. the family side and involving the partners, other children, extended family in this club as well, it means so much to everyone involved. i hope there's a dad out there today that's watching that will be inclined to give us a call, give us a message on facebook. 30 lads that will text you and ring you and see how you are. - katie walderman, bbc news. thanks to everyone he spoke to us in peace. celebrating the lives of the children who have been lost and talking about it. if you've been affected by any of these issues you can get information and support on the bbc action line. the website is bbc.co.uk/action line. time for a look at some of this morning's front pages. "deadliest of delays" is the headline on the daily mirror, as it reports on the findings of a report by two house of commons cross—party committees. the daily mail takes up the same story. it says the findings lay bare the government's "blunders" and focuses on claims that many thousands of people living in care homes "died needlessly," in response, a downing street spokesperson said lessons would be learned from the report. the times leads with the latest on the gas price crisis. the paper says borisjohnson is supporting multimillion pound bailout loans for industries that could close as a result of spiralling costs. and one of the most read stories over on the bbc news website this morning. california has become the first us state to require large retailers to display toys and childcare items in gender neutral ways. those who breach the new law face fines of between £180 and £500. three very quick ones today. 0bsession three very quick ones today. obsession with tech may leave half the world wearing glasses. extensive gazing at a phone or tablet is linked to about 30% higher risk of short—sightedness in a wreck and by 2050, half the world, 5 billion people, could be short—sighted. your eyesight is? as general vision at the moment. if you'd like a flat in chernobyl, 7000 people currently live in the exclusion zone where radioactive particles aren't deadly any more but if there is forest fire, it does release particles into the atmosphere. you can get a 700 square metre plant for £700 a month. it is quite a tourist haven now. people do go, don't they? have you done your lottery ticket estimate euro millions tonight is worth £181; million stock we will be talking later on in the programme about how to pick your numbers what the chances are for how you pick your numbers and actually picking sentimental numbers is not the best thing, apparently. things that have gone up in the pandemic. hot tubs 200% with big tvs. speedos. ergonomic chairs. is apple in your hot to help? statement desks. things we have not bought by passbook have as neckties, travel adapters, children's party close and a huge full in the sale of thongs, we believe. now how about this for a holiday with a difference? �*champing' that's camping in a church has become one of the surprise if unorthodox travel trends of recent months. so why is it proving so popular? we sent breakfast�*sjohn maguire to find out. there's been a church on the site in the somerset town of langport for more than 1,000 years. but, with a decreasing congregation, all saints hasn't held weekly services since the 1990s. there was a huge amount of upset. it may not have been there was a regular congregation that suddenly were thrown out because the numbers were quite small. people who really didn't come to the church still saw it as something that was a precious part of their community. so to save it, in common with 350 others, it's looked after by the churches conservation trust. one way the charity raises money is through church camping, or champing, as it's known. mirren and her two young sons are the guests tonight. first priority is to explore the unique accommodation. i've seen the pillars, the golden eagle, the stained glass. it certainly makes a change from the usual holidays. we normally go to cornwall and stay in a bed—and—breakfast. that's been our idea of a getaway for the last two or three years. so this is different because we've never gone to sleep in a church before and this is amazing, it's everything i expected. staying here, i really shouldn't be saying this, is like staying inside a ghost story. ghost stories may attract some but one of the volunteers here, annie, says there's no need to be scared. i've been here with a group of young people, there were about 12 of us. you would think it is scary but it's not. it's got a really nice atmosphere. you wake up in the morning and the light is coming through the windows. it feels really calm and relaxing. you've got this glorious space all to yourself and it's really good for hide and seek, really good. her husband bill is bringing young people into churches is one of champing's great advantages. if i went to church as a youngster, you were dressed in your sunday best, a freer and more easy way to enjoy the space is very much the whole experience of champing for people. like all charities and indeed tourist accommodation, the pandemic has has meant a severe loss in revenue. so there is a determination to bounce back and to breathe new life into history. john maguire, bbc news, somerset. that is definitely better than a tent, never going to blow away. a solid structure. still to come on breakfast. # why, why, why delilah...# keeping up with thejoneses. we hear from the stars of a new musical based on not one, but two, famous tom joneses. i once sung that song in a chinese karaoke bar. the only song with english words. i gave it full gun. it was one of those moments where they spent no english and i spoke very little mentoring other than hello, 0k and thank you. nobody sang along. i gave it everything and no onejoined in at along. i gave it everything and no one joined in at any point. along. i gave it everything and no onejoined in at any point. i went to the bitter end with all gusto. so embarrassed. it was like one of these and. next. everyone knows that song surely around the world. no. i was in china many years ago. great memories. there was one cameraman with me. is there evidence of this? he did not telnet. he was in the audience, he was meant to be my friend. 0n audience, he was meant to be my friend. on your own. great time. maybe you need to have a practice of singing it now. i am singing it in my brain. time to stop talking about your karaoke exploits. time now to get the news, travel and weather where you are. good morning, i'm asad ahmad. the headteacher of a school in wembley, which is often called the strictest in britain, has been appointed as the government's new social mobility commissioner. katharine birbalsingh will be responsible for levelling up opportunity and giving everyone a chance to succeed. her views have proved controversial in the past, saying underachievement by black pupils was due partly to "the chaos of our classrooms". the michaela school in north west—london, which she leads, is regarded as outstanding. the family of a missing 14—year—old girl say they cannot rest until she returns home. hafizah was last seen in newham on thursday afternoon, wearing her school uniform, a black coat with a furry hood and black lace—up boots. the teenager is described by her family as quiet, kind and caring. bbc london has been granted rare access to a women's prison in surrey. downview, which houses over 250 prisoners, runs fashion and photography workshops to teach inmates the necessary skills to get them back into employment once released. if we do that, we keep the public safe, we cut crime and we offer opportunities to these prisoners who perhaps have not had the opportunities like this before they came into prison. a playwright from east london has slashed the time it takes her to write a sell—out play, from two years to just a couple of days. it's after lucy kirkwood heard about the murder of school teacher sabina nessa in kidbrook last month. she wrote maryland — about violence against women — and emailed it to the royal court theatre in chelsea, who've put it on immediately in front of a near sell—out audience. kirkwood said she feels like the play "had to happen now". well, if you're heading out on public transport this morning, this is how tfl services are looking. and now the weather. good morning. high pressure still in charge of our weather. however, today we have a cold front and that will introduce more in the way of cloud. it is a bright start. sunshine around first thing, albeit hazy. the cloud will gradually progress. as we head into the afternoon we lose the sunshine. the cloud will produce the odd spot of light rain or drizzle. temperatures reaching a maximum of 16 celsius. this evening and overnight the cloud will break up. the cold front moves away. we get a clear spells and mist and fog patches. the minimum temperature single figures, could feel quite chilly away from central london. into tomorrow morning that most and fog will lift. we will see sunny spells developing. high pressure still there. on thursday it starts to slip away. thursday is actually quite a decent day. eventually we will see the sunshine. the temperature feeling quite warm. 17 or 18 celsius. more cloud on friday, sunny spells into the weekend, turning and next week. i'm back with the latest from bbc london in half an hour. plenty more on our website. bye for now. hello, this is breakfast with dan walker and sally nugent. coming up on breakfast this morning. it was the break up that devastated millions of fans around the world, but who was responsible for the beatles going their separate ways? find outjust before seven. boldly going where no 90—year—old has gone before — we have the latest on star trek star william shatner�*s real life journey into space. and as if running 26 miles wasn't challenging enough, we've the story behind this viral video of a firefighter completing the manchester marathon in full kit. a government support package for businesses struggling with the soaring cost of energy could be announced within days. industry bosses are worried some businesses could be forced to shut down without financial help. nina is at a paper manufacturer in cumbria this morning. morning, nina. the bills there are high, aren't they?— morning, nina. the bills there are high, aren't they? yeah, you have not it high, aren't they? yeah, you have got it right- _ high, aren't they? yeah, you have got it right. good _ high, aren't they? yeah, you have got it right. good morning. - high, aren't they? yeah, you have got it right. good morning. have l high, aren't they? yeah, you havej got it right. good morning. have a look at this. this is croppers in cumbria using the power of the river. they have been making paper here since 1845, incredible. they have diversified over the years. this is a silicon material, man—made fibre. that gets pushed into the roles you can see down here. that will end up insulating boilers. it woody important part of the business. have a around. you can only imagine how much it costs to run this place. they can'tjust stick anotherjump around to keep the prices down. they spend £60,000 every week on energy bills. that translates at over 3 million every year. when prices go up they keep a keen eye on what is happening. they have been going up, haven't they? 250% since the beginning of january. we have said that many times. it is worth reiterating. for businesses like this there is no energy price cap. the wholesale suppliers need to get their money back somehow. there is a warning that as businesses try to absorb the cost of energy prices rocketing, jobs will have to go. we have had a warning from the head of british glass. 0verall they employ about 6000 people. they foresee that if things don't change around a quarter ofjobs in that industry could go. suzannejoins me. she is from the cambridge —— the chamber of commerce in cumbria. 0ften from the cambridge —— the chamber of commerce in cumbria. often we get accused of scaremongering. what are offices saying to you about energy bills? it offices saying to you about energy bills? , ., , ,., , ., bills? it is absolutely not scaremongering. - bills? it is absolutely not scaremongering. almost| bills? it is absolutely not - scaremongering. almost every business we talk to is really concerned about their energy bills. immediately and moving forward. it is important to remember it is not just the energy bills crisis. we have also got spiralling wage costs, raw material costs and transport costs, at a time when many of them are still recovering from covid. we have been hearing about a possible deal with the government. it may, in the form of a loan. is that helpful orjust dealing with problem later? any support is helpful but a loan is the wrong way to go. we are at the point where a lot of businesses are having to start paying back their covid loans. so another loan really isn't helpful. what we need is support in the form of grants, perhaps that reductions. another thing the government could do is have contracts with businesses. a number of them are on fixed price contracts. it is really fundamental that we protect it. it is a billy kee part of our energy security moving forward, nuclear. finally, do ou think moving forward, nuclear. finally, do you think this _ moving forward, nuclear. finally, do you think this period _ moving forward, nuclear. finally, do you think this period could _ moving forward, nuclear. finally, do you think this period could be - moving forward, nuclear. finally, do you think this period could be fatal l you think this period could be fatal for some businesses?— you think this period could be fatal for some businesses? absolutely it could. a for some businesses? absolutely it could- a lot — for some businesses? absolutely it could. a lot of _ for some businesses? absolutely it could. a lot of businesses - for some businesses? absolutely it could. a lot of businesses are - could. a lot of businesses are really concerned. they don't have big margins. these are not small price increases. this is doubling. and more. it could be fatal. wouldn't that be a shame when they have just come through this period to falter at the final moment? it is notjust industries like this, paper, glass, ceramics, which are energy intensive, this company alone provides to businesses in aerospace, construction, hospitals, retail. so that drip drip effect further down the supply chain will affect everyone. look over there. that is insulation that is needed in construction at the moment. so these energy prices matter. there are thousands of businesses waiting to see what that deal looks like but also wondering when and how they will be able to pay back the loans. thank you very much, nina. we will keep a close eye on all of those developments in the next few days. let's return to our main story now — that damning report from mps on the government's decisions in the early stages of the pandemic, which they say cost lives. the inquiry, carried out by the health and technology committees, found the uk moved too slowly in locking down back in march 2020, one of a number of key failings detailed in the report. let's discuss the findings with gp ellie cannon. thank you for being with us. i know you have looked out of this report. what are your initial thoughts? are there surprises in there, or was most of already? i there surprises in there, or was most of already?— there surprises in there, or was most of already? i think obviously there are huge — most of already? i think obviously there are huge aspects _ most of already? i think obviously there are huge aspects that - most of already? i think obviously there are huge aspects that were | there are huge aspects that were known _ there are huge aspects that were known already, as you have already mentioned — known already, as you have already mentioned about locking down too late and _ mentioned about locking down too late and aspects of the original pandemic response. they were sadly incorrect _ pandemic response. they were sadly incorrect and ended up costing the uk a lot— incorrect and ended up costing the uk a lot of— incorrect and ended up costing the uk a lot of lives. what i find very interesting — uk a lot of lives. what i find very interesting was actually their opinion— interesting was actually their opinion and their evaluation of what happened _ opinion and their evaluation of what happened later in the pandemic. so, for example, aspects in september 2020. _ for example, aspects in september 2020, when measures were introduced about the _ 2020, when measures were introduced about the banning of children's sports — about the banning of children's sports clubs at weekends, or the 10pm _ sports clubs at weekends, or the 10pm curfew in september 2020. very, very damaging mitigation responses. and yet. _ very damaging mitigation responses. and yet. in— very damaging mitigation responses. and yet, in fact, there was really no evidence that they were going to help or— no evidence that they were going to help or reduce cases, which is very upsetting — help or reduce cases, which is very upsetting. it's very sad that this is what — upsetting. it's very sad that this is what we — upsetting. it's very sad that this is what we did when actually it wasn't — is what we did when actually it wasn't a — is what we did when actually it wasn't a correct response. so in some — wasn't a correct response. so in some ways — wasn't a correct response. so in some ways we were far too weak in our response. and in other ways we were _ our response. and in other ways we were far— our response. and in other ways we were far too — our response. and in other ways we were far too strong. the our response. and in other ways we were far too strong.— were far too strong. the key quote which many _ were far too strong. the key quote which many people _ were far too strong. the key quote which many people have _ were far too strong. the key quote which many people have picked . were far too strong. the key quote | which many people have picked out from the report says the early response to the pandemic will rank as one of the most important public health failure is the united kingdom has ever experienced. that is quite a damning statement. from a gp�*s perspective what do you think your profession will learn going forward and how we might all deal with something differently in the future? i suppose the key thing is learning lessons? , , ., lessons? yes, it is learning lessons — lessons? yes, it is learning lessons. the _ lessons? yes, it is learning lessons. the report - lessons? yes, it is learning lessons. the report talks i lessons? yes, it is learning - lessons. the report talks about groupthink and everybody listening to each— groupthink and everybody listening to each other and listening to the modelling. gps like myself on the ground, _ modelling. gps like myself on the ground, from the outset and later on, ground, from the outset and later on. were — ground, from the outset and later on, were talking about the fiasco of test and _ on, were talking about the fiasco of test and trace and how that was affecting — test and trace and how that was affecting people on the ground. that is something that has really come out. is something that has really come out we _ is something that has really come out. we know that sage acted too slowly _ out. we know that sage acted too slowly and — out. we know that sage acted too slowly and weren't listening to the correct _ slowly and weren't listening to the correct models. and to this idea that actually covid was going to be much _ that actually covid was going to be much more like a sars or mars epidemic— much more like a sars or mars epidemic like we had seen in the early— epidemic like we had seen in the early part— epidemic like we had seen in the early part of the 21st century, rather — early part of the 21st century, rather than concentrating on what they knew — rather than concentrating on what they knew about pandemic responses, which _ they knew about pandemic responses, which was _ they knew about pandemic responses, which was flu, influenza. and gps were _ which was flu, influenza. and gps were already seen that on the grant and seeing — were already seen that on the grant and seeing how fast things were moving — and seeing how fast things were moving i— and seeing how fast things were moving. i think there was far too much _ moving. i think there was far too much concentration on experts in their— much concentration on experts in their ivory— much concentration on experts in their ivory towers, really without a holistic _ their ivory towers, really without a holistic understanding of what was going _ holistic understanding of what was going on— holistic understanding of what was going on on the ground. we should sa there going on on the ground. we should say there are _ going on on the ground. we should say there are positives _ going on on the ground. we should say there are positives detailed - going on on the ground. we should say there are positives detailed in i say there are positives detailed in the report as well. the main positive is that —— the speed of the vaccine roll—out? positive is that -- the speed of the vaccine roll-out?— vaccine roll-out? yes, it was clear that the mp5 _ vaccine roll-out? yes, it was clear that the mps and _ vaccine roll-out? yes, it was clear that the mps and scientific - vaccine roll-out? yes, it was clear| that the mps and scientific advisers realised _ that the mps and scientific advisers realised early on that vaccinations were _ realised early on that vaccinations were going to be the way out, and also treatments. we don't often talk about— also treatments. we don't often talk about treatments. but we have done very well_ about treatments. but we have done very well in— about treatments. but we have done very well in the uk at developing treatments thanks to the research programmes and the money that was ploughed _ programmes and the money that was ploughed into them. we have treatments both of people who were severely _ treatments both of people who were severely ill and moderately ill to prevent — severely ill and moderately ill to prevent hospitalisation. so yes, absolutely, treatment, vaccination and the _ absolutely, treatment, vaccination and the role of course of nhs workers — and the role of course of nhs workers throughout the pandemic was praised _ workers throughout the pandemic was praised and _ workers throughout the pandemic was praised and highlighted.— praised and highlighted. always a leasure praised and highlighted. always a pleasure to _ praised and highlighted. always a pleasure to talk _ praised and highlighted. always a pleasure to talk to _ praised and highlighted. always a pleasure to talk to you. _ praised and highlighted. always a pleasure to talk to you. thank- praised and highlighted. always a| pleasure to talk to you. thank you for that. we will get more reaction from the governmentjust after half past seven this morning. we will be speaking to greg clark, the chair of the science and to the committee, responsible for publishing that report. responsible for publishing that re ort. , ., responsible for publishing that re ort. ,., ., ,, , , report. the report makes interesting readina report. the report makes interesting readin: for report. the report makes interesting reading for anybody _ report. the report makes interesting reading for anybody affected - report. the report makes interesting reading for anybody affected by - report. the report makes interesting reading for anybody affected by the l reading for anybody affected by the pandemic over the last 18 months. it is 6:39am. cat is here with the sport. whales are still in it. not a classic performance. they did what they needed to do. a win is a win. good morning. whence have kept their hopes of qualifying for next year's world cup alive with a hard—fought 1-0 world cup alive with a hard—fought 1—0 win over estonia last night. manager rob page said his team would go all out in attack but it was this scrappy goal from go all out in attack but it was this scrappy goalfrom kieffer go all out in attack but it was this scrappy goal from kieffer moore, eventually poked in from a yard out, that secured the win. it means wales can still secure a play—off place, there are third —— they are third in their group. last night germany became the first country to qualify for the world cup in qatar. tonight scotland are two more wins away from securing a place in the play—offs after their thrilling comeback to beat israel on saturday. they have travelled to face the faroe islands. north of scotland. scotland are second in their group, seven points behind leaders denmark and four out of israel and austria. the scotland boss says a lot of what they've achieved is down team spirit. ijust borrow these players. i borrow them for ten days at the moment every month. and then you go into the winter and you don't see them, i don't see them in december, january, february, get them together again in march. so the fact that we can keep that bond, and keep that togetherness within the group is really important. if you want to be successful, the better your group of players, the more together they are, then the more chance you have to be successful. england are also in action tonight. they need two wins from their three remaining qualifiers to reach next year's world cup in qatar. they face hungary at wembley, and boss gareth southgate says he's delighted with the stability and proficiency of his current group of players. northern ireland's world cup hopes were effectively ended by losing to switzerland on saturday. that left them third in their group on five points, only above tonight's opponents bulgaria on goal difference. but the match in sofia is farfrom a dead rubber. british number one dan evans is out of the indian wells masters in california, after losing to argentine diego schwartzman. evans beat former us open finalist kei nishikori in the previous round, but his game fell apart after taking the first set, and being a break of serve up in the second. he lost eight consecutive games, losing the deciding set 6—0. cameron norrie currently playing roberto baptista are good. —— roberto baptista are good. —— roberto bautista—agut. what were you doing on your 16th birthday? a nice meal? idiot school? how about this? well, for one irish cricketer, her 16th birthday will be one she never forgets. amy hunter has become the youngest player, female or male, to score an international century. she hit an unbeaten 121 in the fourth one day international against zimbabwe in harare. hunter breaks the record held by mithali raj, who scored a century at 16 and 205 days in 1999. what were you doing on your 16th birthday? i what were you doing on your 16th birthda ? ., , ., , birthday? i am trying to remember. it was birthday? i am trying to remember. it was such — birthday? i am trying to remember. it was such a _ birthday? i am trying to remember. it was such a long _ birthday? i am trying to remember. it was such a long time _ birthday? i am trying to remember. it was such a long time ago! - birthday? i am trying to remember. it was such a long time ago! my - it was such a long time ago! my birthdays in august. i was probably on a holiday. birthday is genuinely — but generally on our family holiday. - but generally on our family holida . ~ , g ., , holiday. mine is in june. i always had exams- _ holiday. mine is in june. i always had exams. mine _ holiday. mine is in june. i always had exams. mine is _ holiday. mine is in june. i always had exams. mine is in _ holiday. mine is in june. i always had exams. mine is in march. i holiday. mine is in june. i always. had exams. mine is in march. just holiday. mine is in june. i always i had exams. mine is in march. just a school day- — had exams. mine is in march. just a school day. how— had exams. mine is in march. just a school day. how impressive - had exams. mine is in march. just a school day. how impressive is - had exams. mine is in march. just a school day. how impressive is that l school day. how impressive is that though, 16? 16 school day. how impressive is that though. 16?— school day. how impressive is that though, 16? 16 and an international centu . though, 16? 16 and an international century- and _ though, 16? 16 and an international century. and her _ though, 16? 16 and an international century. and her interview- century. and her interview afterwards was fantastic. we have got a clip but we didn't have time to play it. hopefully we'll hear from you later. thank you. carol is with us this morning. if you were watching yesterday you will know that carol was talking about the northern lights. we hoped for some pictures and he can deliver. good morning. good morning. we have had some cracking pictures of the northern lights sent in. thank you so much. these are the weather watchers ones. here is one in shetland. it is amazing. see the different colours. sometimes they are purple, sometimes they are green. i will explain to you later why that happens. today is going to be fairly cloudy. chile dan day north sea coastline in particular. here we have got a weather front which is producing some spots of rain. high pressure towards the west are keeping things fairly settled. under clear skies this morning the temperatures fell to three degrees. mist and fog across central and southern england and the south—west. here is the rain. nothing particularly heavy. more nuisance value than anything else. through the day this weather front will move back in, bringing more rain across east anglia, the midlands, north—west england, south—west scotland, northern and parts of wales. sunshine in central and southern england. and also dandies north sea coastline later in the day. but here is where it will feel fairly cold. 11 to 14 in the sunshine in the west. to give you a kind of idea what it is going to be like, in the east it is going to be cold again. tomorrow temperatures will be back up to 15 or 16 degrees. heading on into the evening and overnight we will have some clear skies to start with. a lot of cloud towards the west with some drizzle along the coasts and hills. a weather front moving across the north of scotland introducing some rain which will be heavy a crusty northern ireland. temperatures seven to about 11 as the overnight lows. that rain clears tomorrow morning and tomorrow again variable cloud. some sunshine. towards the west we are prone to the odd shower. temperatures ranging from 12 to about 17. note the difference along the north sea coastline tomorrow compared to today. things are set to change. as we head into thursday we have got this weather front. it is a cold front. as it sinks so that it will bring rain and strong winds. look how we see the return to blues. it will turn colder in the north. we have got all this rain across northern scotland by the end of the day, heading into southern scotland, perhaps northern england and northern ireland. behind it we see the cooler air. a brisk wind as well. i had a bit of variable amounts of cloud and some sunshine. top temperatures of 17 or 18 degrees. thank you. lovely pictures as well. thank you. lovely pictures as well. thank you. a new musical based on not one, but two, famous tom jonses, is making its world premiere at the birmingham rep theatre. what's new pussycat? combines music from the welsh hit maker sir tom, with the plot of an 18th century novel also starring tom jones. 0ur entertainment correspondent, colin paterson, has been finding out more. # na, na, na, na, na # na, na, na, na, na, na, na, na, na, na...# tom jones — not that one — singing the hits of tom jones. 18th century literary creation and 20th century welsh pop sensation merged together for a new musical, what's new pussycat? tom jones was much, much, much worse. henry fielding's tom jones was published in 1749. it told the tale of a young handsome man sweeping his way through society. the 1963 film version won best picture at the oscars... # my, my, my, delilah...# ..prompting a young welsh singer called tommy scott to change his name to tom jones. # it's not unusual to be loved by anyone.# now, more than 60 years later, the two toms finally collide in this show. how much do you channel the tom jones singer on stage, and how much tom jones from the novel? i'd say it's about 60% tom jones from the novel, 40% tom jones, the singer. love tom jones, the singer, but it's not an imitation. but obviously you've got to channel a bit of tom jones, otherwise you're not going to get through those amazing numbers. # i wanna die...# and as for how the hits fit in? well, sirtomjones, those songs are all great and they're all about love and trying to find someone. and henry fielding's novel, tom jones, is also about love and trying to find someone. so it was relatively easy. # without love, i have nothing, nothing at all.# it's perhaps understandable that not all of the cast have gone back to the original source material. tom jones the novel is more than 900 pages long. i got the abridged version and the full version, so i've been able to sort of chop and change between the two of them. but i love that obviously our version is very different and it's been moved to the 60s, while still sort of keeping the core values of the piece. five, six... pony! and helping to recreate swinging london, the choreographer arlene phillips. don't you change it. you keep it! wow, is this bringing back some memories? it certainly is. tom jones! but i love working with his music. i love choreographing to his music. it's just such a treat. how would you rate the real tom jones' dancing over the years? very interesting. i would call tom jones a great mover. and he has his own moves, his own style. he doesn't exactly do dance steps, but i could watch him all the time. and as for sir tom jones, well, he has given the show his blessing. and next tuesday, he will attend the press night. how much pressure will that be, singing the hits of tom jones in front of the man himself? i don't know. for me, i kind of get a kick out of it. i think it's going to be really fun. i'm just going to shout them at him and hope he enjoys. until you hear cries of, "you're doing it wrong from the audience"! yeah — "it's wrong, it's wrong, dom!" let's go. colin paterson, bbc news, birmingham. cani can ijust can i just say, can ijust say, the hip action there by tom jones, that was impressive. aha, by tom jones, that was impressive. bit of cha—cha—cha to do this week. yesterday nadiya was shouting hip at me for five hours. yesterday nadiya was shouting hip at me forfive hours. you have to yesterday nadiya was shouting hip at me for five hours. you have to get your hips to move, sort of half rotate and go up and down at the same time. rotate and go up and down at the same time-— rotate and go up and down at the same time. ., , , ., ., same time. that is exactly what tom jones was doing _ same time. that is exactly what tom jones was doing there! _ same time. that is exactly what tom jones was doing there! i _ same time. that is exactly what tom jones was doing there! i am - same time. that is exactly what tom jones was doing there! i am taking i same time. that is exactly what tom jones was doing there! i am taking a | jones was doing there! i am taking a mental picture _ jones was doing there! i am taking a mental picture of _ jones was doing there! i am taking a mental picture of that. _ for almost 50 years, sir paul mccartney has shouldered the blame for the break—up of the beatles. that is, until now. in a new interview on radio 4's this cultural life programme, he's claimed it was in fact john lennon who sparked the split. here's what he had to say. stop right there. i'm not the person who instigated the split. you brou . ht who instigated the split. you brought the _ who instigated the split. gm, brought the lawyers in though, didn't you?— brought the lawyers in though, didn't ou? ., ., ,, ., didn't you? no. john walked into the room one day _ didn't you? no. john walked into the room one day and _ didn't you? no. john walked into the room one day and said, _ didn't you? no. john walked into the room one day and said, i'm - didn't you? no. john walked into the room one day and said, i'm leaving i room one day and said, i'm leaving the beatles — room one day and said, i'm leaving the beatles. he said, it's quite a thrilling — the beatles. he said, it's quite a thrilling, rather like a divorce. we were _ thrilling, rather like a divorce. we were left— thrilling, rather like a divorce. we were left to — thrilling, rather like a divorce. we were left to pick up the pieces. i didn't— were left to pick up the pieces. i didn't instigate the split. that was ourjourney, coming one day. ifjohn hadn't come — ourjourney, coming one day. ifjohn hadn't come in _ ourjourney, coming one day. ifjohn hadn't come in that _ ourjourney, coming one day. ifjohn hadn't come in that day _ ourjourney, coming one day. ifjohn hadn't come in that day and - ourjourney, coming one day. ifjohn hadn't come in that day and said, i l hadn't come in that day and said, i quit, can you imagine the beatles continuing? it quit, can you imagine the beatles continuing?— quit, can you imagine the beatles continuin: ? .., ., , continuing? it could have been. the thin is, continuing? it could have been. the thing is. the — continuing? it could have been. the thing is, the point _ continuing? it could have been. the thing is, the point of _ continuing? it could have been. the thing is, the point of it _ continuing? it could have been. the thing is, the point of it really - continuing? it could have been. the thing is, the point of it really was i thing is, the point of it really was thatjohn — thing is, the point of it really was thatjohn was making a new life thing is, the point of it really was that john was making a new life with yoko and _ that john was making a new life with yoko and he wanted to go in a bag and he _ yoko and he wanted to go in a bag and he wanted to lie in bed for a week— and he wanted to lie in bed for a week for— and he wanted to lie in bed for a week for peace. you couldn't argue with that _ week for peace. you couldn't argue with that it— week for peace. you couldn't argue with that. it was the most difficult period _ with that. it was the most difficult period of— with that. it was the most difficult period of my life. number one, the beatles _ period of my life. number one, the beatles were breaking up and this was my— beatles were breaking up and this was my band, this was myjob, this was my band, this was myjob, this was my— was my band, this was myjob, this was my life — was my band, this was myjob, this was my life i— was my band, this was myjob, this was my life. i wanted to continue. i thought— was my life. i wanted to continue. i thought we — was my life. i wanted to continue. i thought we were doing some pretty .ood thought we were doing some pretty good stuff. abbey road, you know, wasn't _ good stuff. abbey road, you know, wasn't bad — good stuff. abbey road, you know, wasn't bad. i thought we could continue _ and we can speak to radio 4'sjohn wilson now. good morning. how much of a scoop is theirs to get sir paul mccartney to talk about this in this way? weill. talk about this in this way? well, he didn't take _ talk about this in this way? well, he didn't take much _ talk about this in this way? well, he didn't take much persuading, put it like _ he didn't take much persuading, put it like that — he didn't take much persuading, put it like that i— he didn't take much persuading, put it like that. ithink he didn't take much persuading, put it like that. i think it's something that he _ it like that. i think it's something that he has— it like that. i think it's something that he has felt very keenly for the last 50 _ that he has felt very keenly for the last 50 years. the point is that when — last 50 years. the point is that when the — last 50 years. the point is that when the beatles ended so acrimoniously various members of the band acrimoniously various members of the hand had _ acrimoniously various members of the band had walked in and out of a studio— band had walked in and out of a studio and — band had walked in and out of a studio and he was the one who finally— studio and he was the one who finally sued the beatles. he was the one who _ finally sued the beatles. he was the one who took them to the high court and dissolved the partnership. and i think it's _ and dissolved the partnership. and i think it's because of that that pop history— think it's because of that that pop history has— think it's because of that that pop history has written him as the man who ended — history has written him as the man who ended the beatles, the most loved _ who ended the beatles, the most loved band of all time. of course, there _ loved band of all time. of course, there was— loved band of all time. of course, there was the very famous daily mirror— there was the very famous daily mirror front page even earlier than the high— mirror front page even earlier than the high court case which read, i quit. _ the high court case which read, i quit, paut— the high court case which read, i quit, paul leaves the beatles. he has been — quit, paul leaves the beatles. he has been the one who has been written — has been the one who has been written over time. there are a lot of fans— written over time. there are a lot of fans who — written over time. there are a lot of fans who would say, we know about this, we _ of fans who would say, we know about this, we know thatjohn left early, we know— this, we know thatjohn left early, we know that george walked out of the session, we know that ringo had left even _ the session, we know that ringo had left even during the abbey road sessions — left even during the abbey road sessions at one point. but paul, i think. _ sessions at one point. but paul, i think. has— sessions at one point. but paul, i think, has felt at this very keenly. and i_ think, has felt at this very keenly. and i gave — think, has felt at this very keenly. and i gave him the opportunity said -- to— and i gave him the opportunity said -- to set— and i gave him the opportunity said -- to set the — and i gave him the opportunity said —— to set the record straight. i said. — —— to set the record straight. i said. you _ —— to set the record straight. i said, you are the one who instigated the split. _ said, you are the one who instigated the split, meaning you are the one who sued — the split, meaning you are the one who sued the beatles. but he jumped in very— who sued the beatles. but he jumped in very firmly and said, hang on a minute, — in very firmly and said, hang on a minute, im— in very firmly and said, hang on a minute, i'm not the one who instigated the split, that wasjohn. ithink— instigated the split, that wasjohn. i think he — instigated the split, that wasjohn. i think he is— instigated the split, that wasjohn. i think he is setting the record straight — i think he is setting the record straight. that is what he seems very keen to _ straight. that is what he seems very keen to do — straight. that is what he seems very keen to do. there's a lot of speculation of course about how the beatles _ speculation of course about how the beatles split because of this forthcoming series of documentaries by peter— forthcoming series of documentaries by peterjackson. there is a lot of this stuff— by peterjackson. there is a lot of this stuff in — by peterjackson. there is a lot of this stuff in the air at the moment. it's fascinating because he must have done thousands of interviews over the years and been asked questions like that. i always find it interesting in a big interview like that why somebody like sir paul mccartney, and that moment when you gave him that question, he would choose to finally say, do you know what, it wasn't me? i choose to finally say, do you know what, it wasn't me?— what, it wasn't me? i think it is because it _ what, it wasn't me? i think it is because it is — what, it wasn't me? i think it is because it is a _ what, it wasn't me? i think it is because it is a wide-ranging . because it is a wide—ranging interview _ because it is a wide—ranging interview. the programme i present, we are _ interview. the programme i present, we are looking at all of the influences, we are looking at all of the factors— influences, we are looking at all of the factors that go into what makes an artist, _ the factors that go into what makes an artist, not even cultural influences. paultalked influences. paul talked fascinatingly about influences. paultalked fascinatingly about his family, but living _ fascinatingly about his family, but living in_ fascinatingly about his family, but living in london at the time when all the _ living in london at the time when all the other beatles were living in the suburbs in surrey and he was out looking _ the suburbs in surrey and he was out looking at _ the suburbs in surrey and he was out looking at avant—garde theatre and new music— looking at avant—garde theatre and new music at the wigmore hall, all of these _ new music at the wigmore hall, all of these things come in. meeting john lennon itself is one of the things— john lennon itself is one of the things he — john lennon itself is one of the things he talked about as one of his key cultural moments. and then i put it to him _ key cultural moments. and then i put it to him that if the split of the beatles — it to him that if the split of the beatles had a huge impact on so many people _ beatles had a huge impact on so many people around the world. the beatles were so _ people around the world. the beatles were so loved by generations. i mean, _ were so loved by generations. i mean. my— were so loved by generations. i mean, my daughter as god beatles albums— mean, my daughter as god beatles albums on— mean, my daughter as god beatles albums on her wall, she is 17, mean, my daughter as god beatles albums on herwall, she is 17, her friends _ albums on herwall, she is 17, her friends know— albums on herwall, she is 17, her friends know the beatles. this is why this — friends know the beatles. this is why this stuff still matters. because the beatles are, 50 years after that — because the beatles are, 50 years after that split, they are just still— after that split, they are just still so — after that split, they are just still so important, musically. i mean. — still so important, musically. i mean. it's— still so important, musically. i mean, it's amazing, really, that they— mean, it's amazing, really, that they endure in that way. but he knows — they endure in that way. but he knows he — they endure in that way. but he knows he is still important. he is the one _ knows he is still important. he is the one who has been carrying the torch _ the one who has been carrying the torch for— the one who has been carrying the torch for the beatles all these years. — torch for the beatles all these years. he _ torch for the beatles all these years, he is the one who goes out on tour and _ years, he is the one who goes out on tour and plays those songs. and very much _ tour and plays those songs. and very much overseas the legacy of the beatles — much overseas the legacy of the beatles. and i think on a personal level— beatles. and i think on a personal level it _ beatles. and i think on a personal level it is — beatles. and i think on a personal level it isjust beatles. and i think on a personal level it is just annoyed beatles. and i think on a personal level it isjust annoyed him for a very— level it isjust annoyed him for a very long — level it isjust annoyed him for a very long time. and he'sjust said, come _ very long time. and he'sjust said, come on. — very long time. and he'sjust said, come on. do — very long time. and he'sjust said, come on. do i _ very long time. and he'sjust said, come on, do i have to say this again? — come on, do i have to say this again? i— come on, do i have to say this again? i am _ come on, do i have to say this again? lam not come on, do i have to say this again? i am not the one who walked out, it— again? i am not the one who walked out, it was— again? i am not the one who walked out, it wasjohn again? i am not the one who walked out, it was john who said, again? i am not the one who walked out, it wasjohn who said, i want again? i am not the one who walked out, it was john who said, i want to be divorce — out, it was john who said, i want to be divorce. fair play to him really. john, _ be divorce. fair play to him really. john, it _ be divorce. fair play to him really. john, it is — be divorce. fair play to him really. john, it is fascinating stuff. it is all part of the new bbc radio four series this cultural life, which is coming on october 23. band series this cultural life, which is coming on october 23.- series this cultural life, which is coming on october 23. and you can aet it on coming on october 23. and you can get it on bbc— coming on october 23. and you can get it on bbc sounds _ coming on october 23. and you can get it on bbc sounds as _ coming on october 23. and you can get it on bbc sounds as well. - coming on october 23. and you can get it on bbc sounds as well. very | get it on bbc sounds as well. very interesting to hear that. loads still to come on the programme. now it's time for the news, travel and weather where you are. good morning, i'm asad ahmad. the headteacher of a school in wembley, which is often called the strictest in britain, has been appointed as the government's new social mobility commissioner. katharine birbalsingh will be responsible for levelling up opportunity and giving everyone a chance to succeed. her views have proved controversial in the past, saying underachievement by black pupils was due partly to "the chaos of our classrooms." the michaela school in north west—london, which she leads, is regarded as outstanding. the family of a missing 14—year—old girl say they cannot rest until she returns home. hafizah was last seen in stratford on thursday afternoon, wearing her school uniform. the teenager is described by her family as quiet, kind and caring. bbc london has been granted rare access to a women's prison in surrey. downview, which houses over 250 prisoners, runs fashion and photography workshops. if we do that, we keep the public safe, we cut crime and we offer opportunities to these prisoners who perhaps have not had the opportunities like this before they came into prison. a playwright from east london has slashed the time it takes her to write a sell—out play, from two years to just a couple of days. it's after lucy kirkwood heard about the murder of school teacher sabina nessa in kidbrook last month. she wrote maryland — about violence against women — and emailed it to the royal court theatre in chelsea, who've put it on immediately. kirkwood said she feels like the play "had to happen now". now for the travel. and now the weather. good morning. high pressure still in charge of our weather. however, today we have a cold front and that will introduce more in the way of cloud. it is a bright start. sunshine around first thing, albeit hazy. the cloud will gradually progress south. as we head into the afternoon we lose the sunshine. that cloud will produce the odd spot of light rain or drizzle. temperatures reaching a maximum of 16 celsius. this evening and overnight the cloud will break up. the cold front moves away. we get some clear spells and mist and fog patches. the minimum temperature single figures, could feel quite chilly away from central london. into tomorrow morning that most and fog will lift. we will see sunny spells developing. high pressure still there. on thursday it starts to slip away. thursday is actually quite a decent day. eventually we will see the sunshine. the temperature feeling quite warm. 17 or 18 celsius. more cloud on friday, sunny spells into the weekend, turning and next week. i'm back with the latest from bbc london. good morning. welcome to breakfast with dan walker and sally nugent. 0ur headlines today... one of the worst public health failures ever. a report by mps condemns the response to the early stages of the pandemic. we were operating in a fog of uncertainty. it's not to point the finger of blame, it's to try to learn the lesson so that in the future we can be stronger. a deal to support companies struggling with high energy bills. the government could provide hundreds of millions of pounds in loans within days. wales keep the world cup dreams alive. a scrappy win in estonia keeps their hopes of at least a play—off place in their own hands. the biggest ever euromillions jackpot is up for grabs. we'll be working out your odds of winning. good morning. some of us were lucky enough last night to see the northern lights. the best of the sunshine today will be in parts of the south and south—west. all the details later in the programme. it's tuesday 12th october. the government's early response to coronavirus has been described as one of the uk's worst public health failures in a report by mps. the study by two commons committees found that both ministers and scientists waited too long to bring in lockdowns, costing many lives. but they did praise the speed of the vaccine rollout. 0ur health correspondent, jim reed, reports. we are still living through, says this report, the biggest health crisis of the last 100 years. millions have been infected, many thousands of lives have been lost to covid. when we brought back people from wuhan injanuary... for a year now, two influential groups of mps have been taking evidence on the pandemic from people involved in key decisions at the time. now in this report, they strongly criticise the early response. instead of locking down hard and fast like some other countries, they say ministers, guided by scientific advisers, made a deliberate decision to introduce social distancing rules gradually until it was clear the nhs could be overwhelmed. mps describe that as a serious error which proved fatal to many. we were too slow in that initial lockdown. we were operating in a fog of uncertainty. even the government's advisers, professor neil ferguson, in evidence to my committee said, if we had locked down a week earlier we might even have saved half the number of deaths in that initial wave. everyone accepts that we locked down too late. across 150 pages of the report, there is more criticism. it describes the roll—out of the test and trace programme in england as slow and chaotic. it says the uk did not impose rigorous border controls, letting in high numbers of infections from france and spain. it criticises the treatment of care homes, saying the risks were not recognised soon enough, leading to devastating and preventable repercussions. the report has actually picked up things we were saying from the outset, that social care was an afterthought. the mantra was nhs, we have to keep it safe. we understood some of that. what we did not know was the discharge out of hospitals was actually not through testing. they were not safe discharges. there was though praise for parts of the national response. the vaccine programme was described as one of the most effective initiatives in the history of uk science. treatments for covid were singled out as well. one was used widely first in this country and has saved more than a million lives around the world. the government says throughout the pandemic it has been guided by scientific experts and has not shied away from taking quick action, including on lockdown. it says it is committed to learning lessons and will hold a full public inquiry in the spring. jim reed, bbc news. a support package for firms struggling with the soaring cost of energy could be announced within days. the prime minister is believed to have backed proposals to provide loans worth hundreds of millions of pounds. our business correspondent, theo leggett, reports. forging steel requires a lot of heat and that consumes a great deal of energy. small wonder then that steelmakers want the government to help them cope with a steep rise in energy costs. it isn't just steel. cement manufacturers, chemicals firms, glass—makers and ceramics businesses are also appealing for support. not all companies are affected in the same way by rising costs. some have bought their gas and electricity in advance and are protected from price rises, at least for the time being. 0thers though are not. for them, this is an incredibly serious predicament, leading some to scale back production or to raise product prices. of course the longer this period of high prices continues, the more companies are impacted and the more severe those impacts are and, at some point, it starts to threaten their company viability. the government faces a dilemma. it wants to help viable businesses cope with soaring costs but it doesn't want to prop up failing companies. direct subsidies would add to the burden on taxpayers, while a cap on electricity or gas prices would risk simply passing on extra costs to energy companies. but labour says what businesses are asking for is reasonable. they felt a package of support is needed through the winter when gas and electricity prices are usually higher and to get through this temporary spike in gas and electricity prices. that's what they're looking for. they're not looking for a permanent bailout or a subsidy. what they are looking for is targeted support now, which is what is happening in other european countries. the chancellor now does at least have concrete proposals to look at, passed on by the business secretary after consultations with industry. whatever options he chooses, someone, somewhere is going to have to pay in the end. theo leggett, bbc news. we can speak now to our chief political correspondent adam fleming, who is in westminster this morning. i suppose there has been a lack of a consistent line on this over the last few days. 0ver over the weekend is the weird situation where the secretary said he is in negotiations with the treasury as a lot of energy. then the treasury said no, they aren't. there are many options that are now being discussed with the treasury now. there will be financial support for the industries like steel, aluminium, ceramics and glass. speculation as it could be something along the lines of government backed loans, which these companies would have to take out to tide them over the next b months of high energy prices. if that is what they end up with that would be disappointing for the steel industry because they were talking about more ambitious things like a maximum price of energy and are written by the government and also take away lots of levies for environmental policies that those industries are subject to. i guess we will see in the next couple of days when the details of the plan are unveiled. also worth getting an update. to remember a few weeks ago we were talking about the shortage of carbon dioxide because it was made by a fertiliser factory as a by—product? they had shut down temporarily due to high energy costs. yesterday a deal was done that industry would guarantee a price. two, meaning the factory can stay open for definite untiljanuary next year. that is an example where a little bit of government money at the factory for a couple of weeks in the factory for a couple of weeks in the industry came to its own conclusions. also what is interesting is week by week be resting high energy prices affecting a different bit of the economy. you just have to ask yourself what bit of the economy will be affected next week. . ., of the economy will be affected next week. ., ,, , ., of the economy will be affected next week. ., ~' , ., , of the economy will be affected next week. ., ,, i. , . . week. thank you very much. we will seak to week. thank you very much. we will speak to you — week. thank you very much. we will speak to you later _ week. thank you very much. we will speak to you later this _ week. thank you very much. we will speak to you later this morning. - the brexit minister, lord frost, is expected to stress the need for major changes to post brexit trading arrangements in northern ireland, in a major speech to diplomats later. it comes after the irish foreign minister accused the uk of undermining eu efforts to resolve problems with the arrangements known as the northern ireland protocol. lord frost says he wants to see the european court ofjustice removed from its oversight role. the latest incarnation of superman will come out as bisexual in a new comic book. jonathan kent, the son of clark and lois lane, will share a same—sex kiss with his friend in the november issue. the announcement was made on national coming out day. 0ne lucky briton could be on the verge of the biggest lottery win in history if they scoop tonight's euromillions draw. there's an estimated jackpot of £184 million — that's more than 5,000 times the average salary in the uk, and enough to buy 340 average—priced properties in london. normally we compare that sort of in double—decker buses. what would you buy? wales, or something like that. what would you do with someone like jack grealish if you bought him? ask him to cut your grass! you could get him to cut your grass! you could get him to cut your grass! you could get him to whatever your football team is. you could couldn't you? i'd get an island with a beach, that's what i'd be doing. something similar to richard branson! iwonder what i'd be doing. something similar to richard branson! i wonder what carol would do. if you win, remember your friends. going straight to vegas! what happens in vegas, stays in vegas. good morning, everybody. this morning is a chilly start to the day, particularly in the south. temperatures falling into low single figures. today will be cloudy and chilly along the north—east coastline. 0nce chilly along the north—east coastline. once again the south and south—west that will see the lion's share of the sunshine we have clear skies. you can see the cloud and nine of rain. this weather front has moved down towards the northey overnight and is coming back in over the course of the day. nothing particularly heavy. some spots and other parts of southern and western scotland. also into east anglia. it will brighten up quite nicely across the north—east of scotland and eastern england by the end of the day. it will feel pretty chilly, nine to 14 degrees in the east. as we push towards the west, especially in any sunshine. we are looking at 16, 17th is that this evening and overnight the weather front beaches out. still a fair bit of clout in the west and drizzle on western facing coasts and hills. the new weather front coming in across the north of scotland, introducing rain, some of which will be heavy across the northern isles was that these are the overnight" roughly between five and 11. in some rural areas temperatures could full lower than that. tomorrow we say goodbye early on to the rain. 0nce that. tomorrow we say goodbye early on to the rain. once again variable amounts of clout and the odd spot of drizzle in the west. some sunshine coming through as well. temperatures as we go through the course of tomorrow looking at 16, 17 once again. what you will notice is it will not be as cold as the east as today. i am off to pack! carol, thank you. let's return to our many story now. yhe first major report into the handling of the pandemic has criticised ministers for failing to lock down sooner, saying it cost many lives. cross party mps have described the early response as one of the worst ever public health failures but they praised the swift vaccine rollout. let's discuss some of those findings now with professor tom solomon, the director of the uk's emerging infections research unit based at the university of liverpool and anita astle, who is the manager of wren hall nursing home in nottingham. lovely to see both of you this morning. let's come to you festival, professor. 0verarching when you read that main headline it ranks as one of the most important public health failures the united kingdom has ever experienced. quite a damning assessment. how do you look at it generally this morning? it is assessment. how do you look at it generally this morning?— generally this morning? it is a damnin: generally this morning? it is a damning assessment. - generally this morning? it is a damning assessment. it - generally this morning? it is a damning assessment. it has l generally this morning? it is a - damning assessment. it has been clear for a while what some of the early problems are. this report confirms particularly the initial response, where our response was too much focused on what we might do for flue, which is what all pandemic preparations had been compared with asian countries he had seen other coronaviruses. they had learned how to respond to those and they found people, clamped down on people, isolated them and stop the spread. we were still thinking what you do on a pandemic is to reach a point where you cannot contain the virus anymore. nowadays we do have tools to contain like this. we anymore. nowadays we do have tools to contain like this.— to contain like this. we saw you in the iece to contain like this. we saw you in the piece this _ to contain like this. we saw you in the piece this morning _ to contain like this. we saw you in the piece this morning and - to contain like this. we saw you in l the piece this morning and speaking to you several times over the last couple of years. for you and people like you, this has been an incredibly traumatic time. anyone involved in social care or indeed has relatives living in social care, it has been really distressing. when you see the headlines from this report, how do you feel about what they are saying? it is report, how do you feel about what they are saying?— they are saying? it is not telling us anything _ they are saying? it is not telling us anything we _ they are saying? it is not telling us anything we have _ they are saying? it is not telling us anything we have not - they are saying? it is not telling us anything we have not lived i us anything we have not lived through and we did not know. what it does do is confirm what we are saying right the way through the pandemic. forthose saying right the way through the pandemic. for those of us working in the sector, what we want to see is this report makes a difference. the government learns from its mistakes. we'll learn from our mistakes and we make sure that it never happens again. make sure that it never happens aaain. �* , ., , , make sure that it never happens aaain. �* , , , ., again. are you slightly frustrated? i can remember— again. are you slightly frustrated? i can remember at _ again. are you slightly frustrated? i can remember at the _ again. are you slightly frustrated? i can remember at the start - again. are you slightly frustrated? i can remember at the start of - again. are you slightly frustrated? j i can remember at the start of this we would talk to people in social care and they would say the sort of things we are hearing immeasurable yet the plans that were being put into place did not match up to what you are asking for. are you frustrated by that? i you are asking for. are you frustrated by that?- you are asking for. are you frustrated by that? i do not think! am frustrated. _ frustrated by that? i do not think! am frustrated. i _ frustrated by that? i do not think! am frustrated. i think— frustrated by that? i do not think! am frustrated. i think i _ frustrated by that? i do not think! am frustrated. i think i am - frustrated by that? i do not think! am frustrated. i think i am angry i frustrated by that? i do not think i| am frustrated. i think i am angry in some ways. but i am also relieved. what we have said and what we were angry about the time, what we were frustrated about at the time, has now come out and is borne out in this report. again, what difference will it make now that it has been actually reported on that those events happened and it was as bad as we said at the time?— we said at the time? probably the ke oint, we said at the time? probably the key point, lesson _ we said at the time? probably the key point, lesson should - we said at the time? probably the key point, lesson should be - we said at the time? probably the l key point, lesson should be learned from this. are you confident that will happen? when and if something like this happens again, the treatment and the way of dealing with it and the speed of the response would be different? yes. with it and the speed of the response would be different? yes, i think the important _ response would be different? yes, i think the important thing _ response would be different? yes, i think the important thing is - response would be different? yes, i think the important thing is we - response would be different? yes, i j think the important thing is we have to leam— think the important thing is we have to learn from what happened with this particular coronavirus. we need to bear— this particular coronavirus. we need to bear in_ this particular coronavirus. we need to bear in mind that may well beach teacher— to bear in mind that may well beach teacher emerging infections and it may not— teacher emerging infections and it may not be a flu virus, it may be a coronavirus — may not be a flu virus, it may be a coronavirus or _ may not be a flu virus, it may be a coronavirus or something different. we have _ coronavirus or something different. we have to — coronavirus or something different. we have to be flexible in our approach _ we have to be flexible in our approach not to fix him up we expect might— approach not to fix him up we expect might happen. the basic lessons are straightforward. we made basic mistakes. we had to test and keep testing _ mistakes. we had to test and keep testing and we were not able to keep testing _ testing and we were not able to keep testing even though we were that there _ testing even though we were that there is— testing even though we were that there is to — testing even though we were that there is to develop the diagnostic testing _ there is to develop the diagnostic testing for covid in the world. the science _ testing for covid in the world. the science has— testing for covid in the world. the science has been brilliant and we have _ science has been brilliant and we have not— science has been brilliant and we have not translated that three. we also ran _ have not translated that three. we also ran very large treatment studies — also ran very large treatment studies to show that a drug saved lives _ studies to show that a drug saved lives we — studies to show that a drug saved lives. we developed the vaccine which _ lives. we developed the vaccine which has — lives. we developed the vaccine which has been used around the world _ which has been used around the world. ,., which has been used around the world. ., world. one thing the report talks about is there _ world. one thing the report talks about is there have _ world. one thing the report talks about is there have been - world. one thing the report talks about is there have been to - about is there have been to rehearsals for a pandemic if you like and whether government has put into place plans are what would happen everywhere in the middle of a pandemic. actually the preparations were not right because they were preparing for the wrong thing. the next time they rehearse this, what did they need to be looking at? we do these exercises with different scenarios. — do these exercises with different scenarios, some of them in our infections — scenarios, some of them in our infections research unit in liverpool. what we need to do is have _ liverpool. what we need to do is have scenarios for... we talk about agent— have scenarios for... we talk about agent x— have scenarios for... we talk about agent x and — have scenarios for... we talk about agent x and a known infection and what _ agent x and a known infection and what would our response be to that question— what would our response be to that question already people are talking about— question already people are talking about in_ question already people are talking about in the first hundred days of the problem, you have to develop diagnostics very quickly and then roll it _ diagnostics very quickly and then roll it out — diagnostics very quickly and then roll it out. you have to do the early — roll it out. you have to do the early steps _ roll it out. you have to do the early steps of vaccine development. one of— early steps of vaccine development. one of the _ early steps of vaccine development. one of the other really important lessons _ one of the other really important lessons we must learn is not to centralise — lessons we must learn is not to centralise everything. with the testing — centralise everything. with the testing, the diagnostic testing, many— testing, the diagnostic testing, many universities around the country were in_ many universities around the country were in a _ many universities around the country were in a position where they could have supported public health england locally _ have supported public health england locally to _ have supported public health england locally to ramp up the testing and all the _ locally to ramp up the testing and all the testing was centralised. similarly, with the tracing paper, track— similarly, with the tracing paper, track and — similarly, with the tracing paper, track and tracing. public health authorities around the country have done _ authorities around the country have done this— authorities around the country have done this for decades. instead of 'ust done this for decades. instead of just saying to them, you need to focus _ just saying to them, you need to focus on — just saying to them, you need to focus on problem, how can we support you? decisions are made to centralise it which not use local knowledge. they are simple lessons that should apply to any future problem — that should apply to any future problem like this.— that should apply to any future problem like this. coming back to ou, ou problem like this. coming back to you. you have _ problem like this. coming back to you, you have talked _ problem like this. coming back to you, you have talked about - problem like this. coming back to you, you have talked about anger| problem like this. coming back to - you, you have talked about anger and frustration this morning. it is worth reminding viewers, you lost a quarter of your residents, is that right, back in april 2020? when you read this report now and think about some of the lives that were lost, do you wish you had been listened to at the time and other care homes in similar situations had been listened to to do something to save the lives of those people who are sadly no longer with us? i of those people who are sadly no longer with us?— of those people who are sadly no longer with us? i am not 100% sure what could longer with us? i am not 10096 sure what could have _ longer with us? i am not 10096 sure what could have been _ longer with us? i am not 10096 sure what could have been done - what could have been done differently at the time other than there was a care home in brighton that very early on had a massive outbreak. what i would have liked to have seen is lessons learned in my care home tilted to all the care homes, so that we knew what we were facing stop basically we had never faced anything like this before. the degree of the ppe that we had to wear, we had never had to wear before stop when we have outbreaks of diarrhoea and vomiting for instance, we do not wear the same degree of ppe. we had never worn and masks — as a mask before for instance. how do we look after people? very quickly we developed using such as oxygen saturation monitors, using oxygen therapy, subcutaneous fluids and some of our nursing homes. even that was not enough. i think the important thing is we have got a means of disseminating information quickly to our pair homes so that other teams that can support people well. these teams have learnt how to do that. anita, the report does say that social care is underfunded, under resourced, struggles to find staff definitely needs to be looked at any future and a report talks about the lack of ppe in the early stages of the pandemic. if this were to happen again, if there were to be another way, how prepared do you feel if things get bad again and what... if you are talking to the government this morning, what would you ask them for? what would you need? we are in them for? what would you need? - are in a totally different situation now. most care homes have stores that have ppe feeling then. if i tell you today that we have got something like 21,000 masks in our building, and at the beginning of the pandemic, we had less than 300 masks in our building. that is the difference. we are so well—prepared now but we weren't in the beginning. so there are some great things that our government has done. it has given us funding. without that, many care homes, including my own, would have closed. they have done some great things but there is room for improvement. great things but there is room for improvement-— great things but there is room for improvement. great things but there is room for imrovement. ., ., .., . ,, ., improvement. tom, to come back to ou, ou improvement. tom, to come back to you. you praise _ improvement. tom, to come back to you. you praise the _ improvement. tom, to come back to you, you praise the vaccine - improvement. tom, to come back to you, you praise the vaccine roll-outl you, you praise the vaccine roll—out and i get a lot of attention in the report as well. on the issue of care homes, i can see you nodding along with what anita was saying. i homes, i can see you nodding along with what anita was saying.- with what anita was saying. i agree with what anita was saying. i agree with everything _ with what anita was saying. i agree with everything she _ with what anita was saying. i agree with everything she said. _ with what anita was saying. i agree with everything she said. one - with everything she said. one critical— with everything she said. one critical lesson to learn is you cannot — critical lesson to learn is you cannot send people from hospitals to care homes— cannot send people from hospitals to care homes without testing them to make _ care homes without testing them to make sure — care homes without testing them to make sure they do not have the infection. — make sure they do not have the infection, otherwise you will have the infection seated in the care homes — the infection seated in the care homes. there were such a rush to create _ homes. there were such a rush to create space — homes. there were such a rush to create space in hospitals, which was understandable, and people were not tested _ understandable, and people were not tested and _ understandable, and people were not tested and that is really important lesson— tested and that is really important lesson to — tested and that is really important lesson to learn for the future. thank— lesson to learn for the future. thank you _ lesson to learn for the future. thank you for your time this morning. boldly going where no ninety year old has gone before star trek�*s william shatner is about to make history. the actor, best known for playing captain kirk, will be beamed up into space tomorrow in a rocket developed by amazon founder, jeff bezos. the flight was initially due to blast off today but has been delayed due to high winds. our us correspondent sophie long reports from texas. blue 0rigin is sending a star into space — a nonagenarian science fiction staff. we've delayed 24 hours because of the winds and the enormous concern for our safety, and we welcome that concern. it's been decades since william shatner first donned a space suit for the original ground—breaking star trek series in the 1960s. i won't underestimate him again... now he's about to make history and realise the fantasy he once sang about. # rocket man, burning out his fumes out here alone...#. his highly—anticipated blast—off may be a cunning pr plan but it's reignited interest in this 21st—century space race. richard branson was the first billionaire spaceship owner to travel to the edge of the earth's atmosphere this summer, saying he wanted to inspire the next generation. for all you kids down there, i was once a child with a dream, looking up to the stars. just over a week later, amazon and blue 0rigin owner jeff bezos went further and faster, also saying he was doing it for the kids. they've become the most recognisable faces to float above the earth's surface. but perhaps currently in first place in this private industry race is elon musk, whose company spacex has developed a spaceship that successfully ferried astronauts to the international space station. it's now working on creating a craft that will take humans to the moon and mars. sophie long, bbc news, west texas. joining us now is libbyjackson from the uk space agency. morning to you. great to see you. what type of experience can william shatner expect when he eventually gets up there tomorrow? goad gets up there tomorrow? good morninu. gets up there tomorrow? good morning. floating _ gets up there tomorrow? good morning. floating in _ gets up there tomorrow? (limp. morning. floating in microgravity is really fun and as natural as it looks on camera. i have been lucky enough to do it, i've not been to space. he will play tehran for about three minutes and had the most amazing views of earth in what is about an 11 minute rocket ship ride. they blast off from texas can head up they blast off from texas can head up to about 100 kilometres above the surface of the earth. the rocket they are blasting off on lands back to be reused, as well as the capsule that parachutes to a soft landing. it would be quite a ride, not the same as flying into space and orbiting the earth and the experience on the international space station but nonetheless, jolly good fun, i expect. space station but nonetheless, 'olly good fun, i expecti good fun, i expect. libby, i know ou good fun, i expect. libby, i know you don't— good fun, i expect. libby, i know you don't have — good fun, i expect. libby, i know you don't have access _ good fun, i expect. libby, i know you don't have access to - good fun, i expect. libby, i know you don't have access to his - good fun, i expect. libby, i know. you don't have access to his medical records but will his 19—year—old body be ok up there? records but will his 19-year-old body be ok up there?— records but will his 19-year-old body be ok up there? what pressure will it be under? _ body be ok up there? what pressure will it be under? the _ body be ok up there? what pressure will it be under? the crew— body be ok up there? what pressure will it be under? the crew that - body be ok up there? what pressure will it be under? the crew that are i will it be under? the crew that are there, they do experience some forces. william shatner, along with all the other blue 0rigin passengers will have gone through some training. nota will have gone through some training. not a lot. will have gone through some training. nota lot. it will have gone through some training. not a lot. it isjust a few days worth. they will know what to expect and i am certain blue 0rigin will have made sure he is in fine health. as the sort of experience becomes more available, we will want to make sure people are safe and able to take part in these things without risk. that leads us to better understand how humans work which leads to better knowledge for all of us in our everyday lives. what do you make of this burgeoning kind of space tourism industry? where is it all going to end? are we going to go on trips to the moon? the investment of private funds into an space flight is good for taxpayers. it means the uk space agency, through contributions with the european space agency, will spend less to achieve the same amount as we return humans back to the moon and one day on to mars. we will see these companies playing their role in it. they are developing new technologies to support this interest in space tourism. those technologies will feed into what we do and getting humans into space for the benefit of science, for the exploration of discovering how to live and work in space and the knowledge that brings. it is great to see these private companies taking part and the private funds going in to support that technology development. what private funds going in to support that technology development. what an adventure! thank _ that technology development. what an adventure! thank you _ that technology development. what an adventure! thank you very _ that technology development. what an adventure! thank you very much. - that technology development. what an adventure! thank you very much. i - that technology development. what an adventure! thank you very much. i am | adventure! thank you very much. i am sure we will be reporting on that with pictures when it happens. it might be thursday, tomorrow. that's all right. we have to wait for it to be safe. we can watch on thursday then and find out. time now to get the news, travel and weather where you are. good morning from bbc london, i'm asad ahmad. the headteacher of a school in wembley, which is often called the strictest in britain, has been appointed as the government's new social mobility commissioner. katharine birbalsingh has been given responsibility for levelling up opportunity and giving everyone a chance to succeed. her views have proved controversial in the past, saying underachievement by black pupils was due partly to the "chaos of our classrooms". she leads the michaela school, which is rated "outstanding". the family of a missing 14—year—old schoolgirl are becoming increasingly worried for her safety, saying her disappearance has "come completely out of the blue". hafizah was last seen in stratford on thursday afternoon, wearing her school uniform. the teenager is described by herfamily as quiet, kind and as someone who loves her books. bbc london has been given rare access to downview women's prison in sutton. around 250 prisoners are there, and efforts are being made to teach inmates new skills, including textiles and photography. it aims to lower reoffending rates and help women getjobs after release. if we do that, we keep the public safe, we cut crime and we offer opportunities to these prisoners who perhaps have not had the opportunities like this before they came into prison. a playwright from east london has slashed the time it takes her to write a sell—out play from two years to just a couple of days. it's after lucy kirkwood heard about the murder of school teacher sabina nessa in kidbrook last month. she wrote maryland — about violence against women — and emailed it to the royal court theatre in chelsea, who put it on immediately. kirkwood said she feels like the play "had to happen now". a look at the travel now. now the weather with kate. good morning. high pressure still in charge of our weather. however, today we have a cold front and that will introduce more in the way of cloud. it is a bright start. sunshine around first thing, albeit hazy. the cloud will gradually progress. as we head into the afternoon we lose the sunshine. the cloud will produce the odd spot of light rain or drizzle. temperatures reaching a maximum of 16 celsius. this evening and overnight the cloud will break up. the cold front moves away. we get clear spells and mist and fog patches. the minimum temperature in single figures. it could feel quite chilly away from central london. into tomorrow morning, that mist and fog will lift. we will see sunny spells developing. high pressure still there. on thursday it starts to slip away. thursday is actually quite a decent day. eventually we will see the sunshine. the temperature feeling quite warm, 17 or 18 celsius. more cloud on friday, sunny spells into the weekend, turning and next week. i'm back with the latest from the bbc london newsroom in half an hour. bye for now. hello, this is breakfast with dan walker and sally nugent. this morning we've been talking about a new and damning report from mps on the government's decisions in the early stages of the pandemic, which they say cost lives. the inquiry, carried out by the health and technology committees, found the uk moved too slowly in locking down back in march 2020. let's speak to chair of the science and technology select committee, greg clark. good morning to you. great to talk to you. i read this report last night. it is pretty brutal, isn't it? certainly some bruising messages coming out of it. it calls the early response to the pandemic one of the most important public health failure is the country has ever experienced. that's incredibly damning, isn't it? well, the whole report is trying to do sometimes painful thing of trying to squeeze out the lessons that we can learn. — to squeeze out the lessons that we can learn, so we can do better in future _ can learn, so we can do better in future we— can learn, so we can do better in future. we weren't the only country that made — future. we weren't the only country that made mistakes. we want are the only country _ that made mistakes. we want are the only country that had successes. —— and we _ only country that had successes. —— and we were — only country that had successes. —— and we were not. the vaccine roll-out — and we were not. the vaccine roll-out is _ and we were not. the vaccine roll—out is positive. but it's true the early — roll—out is positive. but it's true the early decisions, in particular our slowness to lock down, did have consequences and we've got to confront— consequences and we've got to confront that and need to learn lessons — confront that and need to learn lessons from it. | confront that and need to learn lessons from it.— confront that and need to learn lessons from it. i will talk to you about the _ lessons from it. i will talk to you about the vaccine _ lessons from it. i will talk to you about the vaccine and _ lessons from it. i will talk to you about the vaccine and a - lessons from it. i will talk to you about the vaccine and a couple l lessons from it. i will talk to you | about the vaccine and a couple of minutes. i want to start right at the beginning, which is where you start with the report. and that very first lockdown and the delay in locking down. we have been talking this morning to people we have been talking to throughout this pandemic, particularly the monetary —— the manager of a care home. we heard stories at the time of terrible situations, lots of people suggesting it was time to lockdown but the government decided it wasn't. why did they decide to delay? wasn't. why did they decide to dela ? ~ ., , ., , ., wasn't. why did they decide to dela ? ~ . ,, ,., delay? what did your report find? you are absolutely _ delay? what did your report find? you are absolutely right. - delay? what did your report find? you are absolutely right. this - delay? what did your report find? you are absolutely right. this was delay? what did your report find? i you are absolutely right. this was a bil you are absolutely right. this was a big decision — you are absolutely right. this was a big decision. but it was a consensus decision _ big decision. but it was a consensus decision it— big decision. but it was a consensus decision. it wasn't that of the government went against the scientific advice, orthat government went against the scientific advice, or that there was some _ scientific advice, or that there was some great— scientific advice, or that there was some great row about it. everyone agreed _ some great row about it. everyone agreed that this was the right thing to do _ agreed that this was the right thing to do we — agreed that this was the right thing to do. we now know that it wasn't. that is— to do. we now know that it wasn't. that is using — to do. we now know that it wasn't. that is using the benefit of hindsight. but it's important to so. what _ hindsight. but it's important to so. what were — hindsight. but it's important to so. what were the reasons to do that? one of— what were the reasons to do that? one of the — what were the reasons to do that? one of the mistakes made was that we 0ne of the mistakes made was that we thought— one of the mistakes made was that we thought that there was a widespread assumption that people wouldn't be lockdown _ assumption that people wouldn't be lockdown measures for a very long period _ lockdown measures for a very long period of— lockdown measures for a very long period of time, so you had to delay imposing _ period of time, so you had to delay imposing them until almost the last possible _ imposing them until almost the last possible moment so that they could have the _ possible moment so that they could have the longest effect. what we discovered in practice was that actually— discovered in practice was that actually people were perfectly prepared to follow instructions to stay at _ prepared to follow instructions to stay at home, because they realised the importance of it. so that was an error that— the importance of it. so that was an error that we — the importance of it. so that was an error that we made. we also didn't have _ error that we made. we also didn't have enough testing capacity at the outset _ have enough testing capacity at the outset. we had to stop testing in the community. and if you are not testing _ the community. and if you are not testing that means you don't have information as to how quickly the virus _ information as to how quickly the virus is _ information as to how quickly the virus is spreading, who is getting it, virus is spreading, who is getting it. who _ virus is spreading, who is getting it. who is — virus is spreading, who is getting it, who is getting ill and how ill they— it, who is getting ill and how ill they are — it, who is getting ill and how ill they are becoming. so that meant we were operating in the dark. we should — were operating in the dark. we should have been much quicker in developing the lead that we had in developing the lead that we had in developing a test, into testing capacity — developing a test, into testing capacity. and that leads to another finding _ capacity. and that leads to another finding, which was that other countries, elsewhere in the world, particularly — countries, elsewhere in the world, particularly in east asia, if you look— particularly in east asia, if you look at — particularly in east asia, if you look at south korea, they very quickly — look at south korea, they very quickly mobilised testing capacity so they— quickly mobilised testing capacity so they could test people in the community, they could isolate them. that allowed them to get a grip of the pandemic earlier than we were able to— the pandemic earlier than we were able to do — the pandemic earlier than we were able to do. these were the three factors— able to do. these were the three factors that we should now learn the lessons _ factors that we should now learn the lessons from and put them in place so this— lessons from and put them in place so this can — lessons from and put them in place so this can never happen again. on that so this can never happen again. that very so this can never happen again. 0“! that very point about the testing, why did we not have the capacity to test at that point? was the government not prepared? well, the whole system — government not prepared? well, the whole system was _ government not prepared? well, the whole system was not _ government not prepared? well, the whole system was not prepared - government not prepared? well, the whole system was not prepared for. whole system was not prepared for the type _ whole system was not prepared for the type of pandemic that we had. paradoxically, we were rated as being _ paradoxically, we were rated as being very— paradoxically, we were rated as being very well prepared for a different kind of pandemic, which was the _ different kind of pandemic, which was the flu. but the thing about the flu is _ was the flu. but the thing about the flu is that— was the flu. but the thing about the flu is that it — was the flu. but the thing about the flu is that it is mostly symptomatic. if you have got it, you know _ symptomatic. if you have got it, you know you _ symptomatic. if you have got it, you know you have it. whereas covid, as we know. _ know you have it. whereas covid, as we know. lots— know you have it. whereas covid, as we know, lots of people have it without— we know, lots of people have it without knowing it. that means you have to _ without knowing it. that means you have to have tests available. other countries, — have to have tests available. other countries, especially in east asia, that have — countries, especially in east asia, that have experience of sars had developed the ability to deploy tests— developed the ability to deploy tests very quickly. but it was painfully _ tests very quickly. but it was painfully slowly to increase the testing — painfully slowly to increase the testing capacity here, even though we were _ testing capacity here, even though we were one of the first countries in the _ we were one of the first countries in the world to develop the test, the operational response of test and trace _ the operational response of test and trace was— the operational response of test and trace was very poor and very slow. and that _ trace was very poor and very slow. and that really hampered our initial response _ and that really hampered our initial response. 50 and that really hampered our initial resonse. ., ., ., ,., response. so we have heard about the mistake about — response. so we have heard about the mistake about not _ response. so we have heard about the mistake about not locking _ response. so we have heard about the mistake about not locking down - mistake about not locking down quickly enough, the problems with testing. your report says the government and the nhs both failed to recognise the significant risks to recognise the significant risks to social care. was one of the biggest mistakes not testing people been discharged from hospital and going into care homes? because that is where the virus was seeded. yes. is where the virus was seeded. yes, it was. is where the virus was seeded. yes, it was- and — is where the virus was seeded. yes, it was- and it _ is where the virus was seeded. yes, it was. and it follows _ is where the virus was seeded. yes, it was. and it follows from - is where the virus was seeded. yes, it was. and it follows from what i set about — it was. and it follows from what i set about testing. because we did not have — set about testing. because we did not have enough testing capacity, and we _ not have enough testing capacity, and we could have done and should have done — and we could have done and should have done if we had been better organised — have done if we had been better organised in anticipation, if we had been _ organised in anticipation, if we had been able — organised in anticipation, if we had been able to test everyone coming out of— been able to test everyone coming out of hospital before they went into a _ out of hospital before they went into a care home, then undoubtedly we could _ into a care home, then undoubtedly we could have stopped the seeding of infections _ we could have stopped the seeding of infections into care homes. but even with the _ infections into care homes. but even with the limited testing capacity that we — with the limited testing capacity that we had, we should have been more _ that we had, we should have been more rigorous in the regime. that's to say— more rigorous in the regime. that's to say when— more rigorous in the regime. that's to say when people did go into care homes _ to say when people did go into care homes from hospitals, we should have been tougher in requiring that they went into _ been tougher in requiring that they went into isolation facilities. germany— went into isolation facilities. germany did that and imposed that. and they— germany did that and imposed that. and they had a better record initially— and they had a better record initially on care homes. 0ther initially on care homes. other countries _ initially on care homes. other countries in east asia also did that — countries in east asia also did that. there are lessons we need to learn _ that. there are lessons we need to learn now — that. there are lessons we need to learn now to — that. there are lessons we need to learn now to put in place so this can't _ learn now to put in place so this can't happen again. i�*m learn now to put in place so this can't happen again.— learn now to put in place so this can't happen again. i'm sure lots of --eole can't happen again. i'm sure lots of people who — can't happen again. i'm sure lots of people who have — can't happen again. i'm sure lots of people who have been _ can't happen again. i'm sure lots of people who have been affected - can't happen again. i'm sure lots of people who have been affected by. people who have been affected by this pandemic will agree and see that of the mistakes were made and agree that lessons need to be learned, but there is one important thing we can't work out from all of this, who is accountable? was it the government? was it the scientists? was it nobody?— was it nobody? well, obviously in any democracy — was it nobody? well, obviously in any democracy the _ was it nobody? well, obviously in any democracy the democratic - was it nobody? well, obviously in - any democracy the democratic system, politicians _ any democracy the democratic system, politicians are accountable. it is the government that is elected that is accountable. and to be fair, the prime _ is accountable. and to be fair, the prime minister has always been clear about— prime minister has always been clear about that _ prime minister has always been clear about that. but we do need to know and understand what caused decisions to be made _ and understand what caused decisions to be made. everyone, from the prime minister— to be made. everyone, from the prime minister down, the scientist, everyone _ minister down, the scientist, everyone working on this, was trying to do— everyone working on this, was trying to do the _ everyone working on this, was trying to do the best thing. there is not a single _ to do the best thing. there is not a single person who was not motivated and working all hours to try to make the right— and working all hours to try to make the right decisions. but we did get some _ the right decisions. but we did get some things right and we got some things— some things right and we got some things wrong. and it seems to me essential— things wrong. and it seems to me essential that we don't just let that pass without trying very hard to squeeze out of the lessons and to confront _ to squeeze out of the lessons and to confront ourselves with some difficult — confront ourselves with some difficult truths, especially where they do— difficult truths, especially where they do lead you to be able to do things— they do lead you to be able to do things differently. such as having a better— things differently. such as having a better investment in preparedness, for example, to be able to respond more _ for example, to be able to respond more quickly, in this case with testing — more quickly, in this case with testing capacity. that is something we can— testing capacity. that is something we can and — testing capacity. that is something we can and should do it now because of the _ we can and should do it now because of the lessons that we have learned. we know _ of the lessons that we have learned. we know there is going to be a public enquiry. should that enquiry now be brought forward in the light of the findings of this report? i don't think so. part of the reason for this— don't think so. part of the reason for this enquiry was to recognise that when— for this enquiry was to recognise that when the pandemic is over it will be _ that when the pandemic is over it will be important to look back and to look— will be important to look back and to look at— will be important to look back and to look at documents and for people to look at documents and for people to spend _ to look at documents and for people to spend a _ to look at documents and for people to spend a lot of time going through their files— to spend a lot of time going through their files and their diaries and having — their files and their diaries and having a — their files and their diaries and having a really comprehensive reconstruction of everything that happened. that will take some time. so what _ happened. that will take some time. so what are — happened. that will take some time. so what are my committee, the science — so what are my committee, the science committee thought, was that it is important now to learn some lessons _ it is important now to learn some lessons and — it is important now to learn some lessons and to apply them. so without— lessons and to apply them. so without seeking to point the finger of blame _ without seeking to point the finger of blame and to have that kind of enquiry. — of blame and to have that kind of enquiry, what we have been focused on, enquiry, what we have been focused on. the _ enquiry, what we have been focused on. the 22 _ enquiry, what we have been focused on, the 22 members of the committee, from right— on, the 22 members of the committee, from right across the house of commons. _ from right across the house of commons, agreed unanimously, what are the _ commons, agreed unanimously, what are the lessons we can squeeze out now so— are the lessons we can squeeze out now so we — are the lessons we can squeeze out now so we can put them into effect? what _ now so we can put them into effect? what about — now so we can put them into effect? what about the families, 150,000 families in this country who have lost loved ones? what you havejust said will make them incredibly angry. said will make them incredibly an: . ~ ., , said will make them incredibly an: . ~ ., ., angry. well, i hope, and we have taken evidence _ angry. well, i hope, and we have taken evidence from _ angry. well, i hope, and we have taken evidence from people - angry. well, i hope, and we have taken evidence from people who | angry. well, i hope, and we have . taken evidence from people who had terrible _ taken evidence from people who had terrible experiences of looking after _ terrible experiences of looking after loved ones during this pandemic, this is one of the reasons that we _ pandemic, this is one of the reasons that we have — pandemic, this is one of the reasons that we have conducted our enquiry, so that— that we have conducted our enquiry, so that we _ that we have conducted our enquiry, so that we can get on and apply lessons — so that we can get on and apply lessons now, rather than wait. the public— lessons now, rather than wait. the public enquiry, when it happens, will take — public enquiry, when it happens, will take some time. i don't know how long — will take some time. i don't know how long it— will take some time. i don't know how long it will take. probably at least _ how long it will take. probably at least a _ how long it will take. probably at least a year. and i think, and my fellow— least a year. and i think, and my fellow committee members think it would _ fellow committee members think it would be _ fellow committee members think it would be wrong to defer learning lessons _ would be wrong to defer learning lessons until that time, when we have _ lessons until that time, when we have the — lessons until that time, when we have the chance to make them now. we have the chance to make them now. we have made _ have the chance to make them now. we have made 38 recommendations to the government and to public bodies. i hope _ government and to public bodies. i hope that— government and to public bodies. i hope that they will adopt them all. if hope that they will adopt them all. if they— hope that they will adopt them all. if they do — hope that they will adopt them all. if they do then we will have learnt from _ if they do then we will have learnt from some — if they do then we will have learnt from some of the mistakes and we will be _ from some of the mistakes and we will be in _ from some of the mistakes and we will be in a — from some of the mistakes and we will be in a better position now. but i _ will be in a better position now. but i think— will be in a better position now. but i think for everyone in the country— but i think for everyone in the country that has gone through this terrible _ country that has gone through this terrible time that we have during the past — terrible time that we have during the past two years, but especially those _ the past two years, but especially those who — the past two years, but especially those who have lost loved ones, to be able _ those who have lost loved ones, to be able to — those who have lost loved ones, to be able to learn urgently those lessons. — be able to learn urgently those lessons. i_ be able to learn urgently those lessons, i think, be able to learn urgently those lessons, ithink, is be able to learn urgently those lessons, i think, is a very important _ lessons, i think, is a very important requirement. greg clark mp, thank important requirement. greg clark mp. thank you _ important requirement. greg clark mp, thank you very _ important requirement. greg clark mp, thank you very much - important requirement. greg clark mp, thank you very much indeed. | mp, thank you very much indeed. thank you. i mp, thank you very much indeed. thank you-— mp, thank you very much indeed. thank ou. ,, , thank you. i was like it when people aet thank you. i was like it when people net in thank you. i was like it when people get in contact _ thank you. i was like it when people get in contact with _ thank you. i was like it when people get in contact with this _ thank you. i was like it when people get in contact with this programme i get in contact with this programme when they are watching in the morning. the great bob wilson, former arsenal goalkeeper and legend of football focus, is watching today. you knowjohn wilson, who we spoke to were earlier about paul mccartney? he said, thank you for having my son on. sojohn wilson is the son of the great bob wilson. good morning, bob. 0ne the son of the great bob wilson. good morning, bob. one of the nicest humans on the planet. used to play in goal for scotland as well. wales got the job done last night in the world cup qualifiers. wales beat estonia 1—0 to keep their world cup qualification hopes alive. it was a hard fought win in tallinn, and watching was andy swiss. manager rob page said his team would go all out and attack. it was a scrappy goal in the end that secured the win. it means wales can still secure a play—off place. they are third behind the czech republic and the leaders belgium in the group. it has been a great camp for us, two away games, the performance we gave on friday in the czech republic was outstanding. we are still a young group as well. they are learning from these experiences. to come to a place like this we knew we were never going to dominate. we knew it was going to be an ugly game. we had to match that first and foremost. with the players we have on the pitch we knew we would cause them problems. and last night, germany became the first country to qualify outright for the world cup. tonight, scotland are two more wins away from securing a place in the world cup play—offs, after their thrilling comeback to beat israel on saturday. they've travelled north to face the faroe islands. steve clarke's team are second in group f, seven points behind leaders denmark, but four ahead of both israel and austria. and the scotland boss says a lot of what they've achieved is down to the team spirit and togetherness in the squad. ijust borrow these players. i borrow them for ten days at the moment every month. and then you go into the winter and you don't see them, i don't see them in december, january, february, get them together again in march. so the fact that we can keep that bond, and keep that togetherness within the group is really important. if you want to be successful, the better your group of players, the more together they are, then the more chance you have to be successful. england are also in action tonight. they need two wins from their three remaining qualifiers to reach next year's world cup in qatar. they face hungary at wembley, and boss gareth southgate says he's delighted with the stability and proficiency of his current group of players. we can't be a team that has a day off and we want to keep the consistency of performances. we've had that definitely throughout calendar year. everybody knows there is that competition for places, everybody knows that they can't afford a day off. and they've got pride in putting the shirt on every time they play, and they want to show what they're capable of as a team. northern ireland's world cup hopes were effectively ended by losing to switzerland on saturday. that left them third in their group on five points, only above tonight's opponents bulgaria on goal difference. british number one dan evans is out of the indian wells masters in california, after losing to argentine diego schwartzman. evans beat former us open finalist kei nishikori in the previous round, but his game fell apart after taking the first set, and being a break of serve up in the second. he lost eight consecutive games, losing the deciding set 6—0. in the last few minutes cameron norrie has come through a 3—set battle with the spaniard roberto bautista agut to reach the last 16. what a match that was. you can see what it meant to cameron norrie as well. we were talking about what we were doing on our 16th birthdays earlier. sally was on holidays, dan was at school, i was doing my gcses injune. what about this? well, for one irish cricketer, her 16th birthday will be one she never forgets. amy hunter has become the youngest player, female or male, to score an international century. she hit an unbeaten 121 in the fourth one day international against zimbabwe in harare. hunter breaks the record held by mithali raj, who scored a century at 16 and 205 days in 1999. i was so relieved early on to just get off the mark and get going a bit. and then once i got 20, 30, i didn't really know what i was going to get. and then obviously i was very nervous to get my 50. and then, from there it's just, yeah, i felt a lot more comfortable. to be honest, in the 90s, i actually wasn't too nervous in the 905. i was much more nervous through the 50s. it was an amazing day. how do you celebrate? i bet they are in a bubble. it is not like she is going out on the town.- going out on the town. she's amazing- _ going out on the town. she's amazing- i — going out on the town. she's amazing. ifeel_ going out on the town. she's amazing. i feel thoroughly i amazing. i feel thoroughly inadequate _ amazing. i feel thoroughly inadequate again. - amazing. i feel thoroughly inadequate again. well- amazing. i feel thoroughly l inadequate again. well done amazing. i feel thoroughly _ inadequate again. well done though. we are meant to build him up. don't make him feel inadequate. here's carol with the weather. good morning. it is a chilly start for some of us, especially in the south. it is going to be cloudier today than it was yesterday. and down the east coast it is going to be chilly. temperatures will be back up be chilly. temperatures will be back up tomorrow. a lot of cloud across our shores at the moment. a weak weather front will our shores at the moment. a weak weatherfront will come our shores at the moment. a weak weather front will come back into east anglia. it is draped across parts of north wales, the midlands, northern england, south and west scotland and northern ireland, introducing patchy rain. sunshine in south wales and south—west england. later on it were brighten up nicely across north—east scotland and also north—east england. it will feel cool north—east england. it will feel cool. temperatures ranging from nine to 14 degrees. further west, cool. temperatures ranging from nine to 14 degrees. furtherwest, inland in the to 14 degrees. further west, inland in the sunshine we to 14 degrees. furtherwest, inland in the sunshine we are to 14 degrees. further west, inland in the sunshine we are looking at about 16, in the sunshine we are looking at about16, may in the sunshine we are looking at about 16, may be 17 degrees. through this evening and overnight we hang on to a fair bit of cloud. sales and party like rain or drizzle affecting western coasts and hills. i knew whether front cross in the west of scotland introducing some rain. some of that will be heavy. these are the overnight lows. in rural areas the temperatures will be lower than you can see here. that leads us into tomorrow. we say goodbye quite early on to that band of rain. tomorrow some mixture of cloud and cloud breaks with some sunshine coming through. a few showers in the west, notably in the north—west of scotland and the north—west of northern ireland, coming in the breeze. cabbages tomorrow not as cool along the east coast as today. —— temperatures. longer weather forecast in around 20 minutes. we look forward to it. let's book our place on the we look forward to it. let's book our place on the plane, we look forward to it. let's book our place on the plane, we we look forward to it. let's book our place on the plane, we are we look forward to it. let's book our place on the plane, we are about to talk about the lottery. bare our place on the plane, we are about to talk about the lottery.— to talk about the lottery. are you read ? to talk about the lottery. are you ready? yes. _ to talk about the lottery. are you ready? yes. i— to talk about the lottery. are you ready? yes, i am. _ to talk about the lottery. are you ready? yes, i am. you _ to talk about the lottery. are you ready? yes, i am. you two - to talk about the lottery. are you ready? yes, i am. you two are i ready? yes, i am. you two are caettin ready? yes, i am. you two are getting carried — ready? yes, i am. you two are getting carried away. - ready? yes, i am. you two are getting carried away. we - ready? yes, i am. you two are getting carried away. we are l ready? yes, i am. you two are - getting carried away. we are talking about these —— this because these two are planning a to las vegas. 0ne lucky winner could be on the verge of scooping the biggest jackpot in british history, with a massive £184 million up for grabs in this evening's euromillions draw. breakfast�*s tim muffett has been out and about in croydon to find how they'd spend the prize money. just imagine, £184 million in the bank. but what then? b, just imagine, £184 million in the bank. but what then?— just imagine, £184 million in the bank. but what then? a very large house. a yacht. _ bank. but what then? a very large house. a yacht. buy _ bank. but what then? a very large house. a yacht. buy an _ bank. but what then? a very large house. a yacht. buy an island. - bank. but what then? a very large | house. a yacht. buy an island. you could buy two _ house. a yacht. buy an island. you could buy two necker_ house. a yacht. buy an island. you could buy two necker island - house. a yacht. buy an island. you could buy two necker island is, - house. a yacht. buy an island. you | could buy two necker island is, you know richard branson's islands? definitely. b. know richard branson's islands? definitel. �* ., , , �* definitely. a house first. but i think in this — definitely. a house first. but i think in this pandemic, - definitely. a house first. but i think in this pandemic, what i definitely. a house first. but i i think in this pandemic, what we definitely. a house first. but i - think in this pandemic, what we have been through— think in this pandemic, what we have been through the _ think in this pandemic, what we have been through the past _ think in this pandemic, what we have been through the past two _ think in this pandemic, what we have been through the past two years, - think in this pandemic, what we have been through the past two years, i l been through the past two years, i think— been through the past two years, i think i_ been through the past two years, i think i would — been through the past two years, i think i would love _ been through the past two years, i think i would love to _ been through the past two years, i think i would love to look- been through the past two years, i think i would love to look out - been through the past two years, i think i would love to look out for. think i would love to look out for people. — think i would love to look out for people. as — think i would love to look out for people. as many— think i would love to look out for people, as many as _ think i would love to look out for people, as many as i— think i would love to look out for people, as many as i can. - think i would love to look out for people, as many as i can. but. think i would love to look out for people, as many as i can. but how much is too _ people, as many as i can. but how much is too much? _ people, as many as i can. but how much is too much? £184 _ people, as many as i can. but how much is too much? £184 million i people, as many as i can. but howl much is too much? £184 million for one person. _ much is too much? £184 million for one person. what _ much is too much? £184 million for one person, what can _ much is too much? £184 million for one person, what can they - much is too much? £184 million for one person, what can they do - much is too much? £184 million for one person, what can they do with | one person, what can they do with it? 1 million per person. make it 184 winners. it it? 1 million per person. make it 184 winners-— it? 1 million per person. make it 184 winners. , , ., ., 184 winners. it seems that most of the eo - le 184 winners. it seems that most of the people that — 184 winners. it seems that most of the people that win _ 184 winners. it seems that most of the people that win the _ 184 winners. it seems that most of the people that win the lottery - the people that win the lottery don't _ the people that win the lottery don't know how to control themselves.— don't know how to control themselves. ~ , , , ., themselves. will you be buying a ticket? i themselves. will you be buying a ticket? i buy _ themselves. will you be buying a ticket? i buy one _ themselves. will you be buying a ticket? i buy one every _ themselves. will you be buying a ticket? i buy one every day. - themselves. will you be buying a ticket? i buy one every day. this| themselves. will you be buying a i ticket? i buy one every day. this is my ticket- — ticket? i buy one every day. this is my ticket- i — ticket? i buy one every day. this is my ticket. i always _ ticket? i buy one every day. this is my ticket. i always have _ ticket? i buy one every day. this is my ticket. i always have my - ticket? i buy one every day. this is my ticket. i always have my ticketl my ticket. i always have my ticket ready. i'd quit myjob, i'd pay my bills, to help my family, i would do so many things. ii bills, to help my family, i would do so many things-— so many things. if you were to win the jackpot — so many things. if you were to win the jackpot you — so many things. if you were to win the jackpot you could _ so many things. if you were to win the jackpot you could buy - the jackpot you could buy 1,414,376,000 satsumas. although there is an h gg driver shortage, so delivery could be a problem. 0ther delivery could be a problem. other options, with an average uk house price of £265,000, you could buy 694 places to live, or 2190 porsche 9115. or, with a transfer fee of £100 million, you could theoretically by 1.8 jack £100 million, you could theoretically by 1.8jack greali5h is. theoretically by 1.8 jack grealish is. ~ ., ., , ., , is. winning the euromillions has chanted is. winning the euromillions has changed our— is. winning the euromillions has changed our lives. _ is. winning the euromillions has changed our lives. nigel - is. winning the euromillions has changed our lives. nigel and - is. winning the euromillions has - changed our lives. nigel and sharon won nearly £12.5 _ changed our lives. nigel and sharon won nearly £12.5 million _ changed our lives. nigel and sharon won nearly £12.5 million on - changed our lives. nigel and sharon won nearly £12.5 million on the - won nearly £12.5 million on the lottery in 2010. it won nearly £12.5 million on the lottery in 2010.— lottery in 2010. it has given us time to do _ lottery in 2010. it has given us time to do what _ lottery in 2010. it has given us time to do what we _ lottery in 2010. it has given us time to do what we want, - lottery in 2010. it has given us - time to do what we want, whether it is with family, job5, charity work. the first thing we did was we bought a box _ the first thing we did was we bought a box at _ the first thing we did was we bought a box at manchester city. it the first thing we did was we bought a box at manchester city.— a box at manchester city. it would have been — a box at manchester city. it would have been like _ a box at manchester city. it would have been like your _ a box at manchester city. it would have been like your year's - a box at manchester city. it would have been like your year's wages. i have been like your year's wages. certainly you can have a good time with it _ certainly you can have a good time with it if— certainly you can have a good time with it if you do it the right way. if with it if you do it the right way. if one _ with it if you do it the right way. if one uk — with it if you do it the right way. if one uk ticket holder does scoop if one uk ticket holder doe5 scoop tonight's jackpot, it will be the uk's biggest ever lottery win. according to the sunday times rich li5t, according to the sunday times rich list, you would be wealthier than adele, who is reportedly worth £130 million, but still not as rich as ed sheeran, who is supposedly worth 220 million. although you might still find that people fall in love... i don't think that you can necessarily buy happiness. you can buy components that maybe increase your happiness and things that will lead you to happiness. but happine55 costs nothing. you to happiness. but happiness costs nothing.— you to happiness. but happiness costs nothing. you to happiness. but happiness costs nothini. . ., ., ., costs nothing. what would you do if ou won costs nothing. what would you do if you won 180 — costs nothing. what would you do if you won 180 i— costs nothing. what would you do if you won 180 i would _ costs nothing. what would you do if you won 180 i would get _ costs nothing. what would you do if you won 180 i would get out - costs nothing. what would you do if you won 180 i would get out of- you won 180 i would get out of croydon. you won 180 i would get out of cro don. , , ., ., croydon. definitely get out of cro don! croydon. definitely get out of croydon! i — croydon. definitely get out of croydon! i would _ croydon. definitely get out of croydon! i would retire - croydon. definitely get out of croydon! i would retire and i croydon. definitely get out of i croydon! i would retire and take croydon. definitely get out of - croydon! ! would retire and take it croydon! i would retire and take it easy _ croydon! i would retire and take it eas . . y ., croydon! i would retire and take it eas . . , y croydon! i would retire and take it eas. ., _ croydon! i would retire and take it eas, ., ,y easy. can you buy happiness? money can. i easy. can you buy happiness? money can- ithink— easy. can you buy happiness? money can- i think so. _ easy. can you buy happiness? money can. i think so, definitely, _ easy. can you buy happiness? money can. i think so, definitely, yeah. - can. ithink so, definitely, yeah. once _ can. ithink so, definitely, yeah. once you'd _ can. ithink so, definitely, yeah. once you'd got all that, you would be happy. — once you'd got all that, you would be happy, wouldn't you?— be happy, wouldn't you? yeah, definitely- _ be happy, wouldn't you? yeah, definitely. winning _ be happy, wouldn't you? yeah, definitely. winning the - be happy, wouldn't you? yeah, definitely. winning the jackpot | be happy, wouldn't you? yeah, i definitely. winning the jackpot is highly unlikely, but you never know. there you go. much to discuss. we are joined now from east london by maths teacher bobby seagull, who's going to explain just how unlikely a lottery win is. and in the studio is andrew carter from the national lottery, who advises the privileged few lucky enough to scoop a jackpot. bobby, i can see you have got a whiteboard behind you. run u5 whiteboard behind you. run us through the numbers. what whiteboard behind you. run us through the numbers. what are the odds? the way _ through the numbers. what are the odds? the way to _ through the numbers. what are the odds? the way to think _ through the numbers. what are the odds? the way to think about - through the numbers. what are the odds? the way to think about it - through the numbers. what are the odds? the way to think about it is i odds? the way to think about it is there _ odds? the way to think about it is there are — odds? the way to think about it is there are two bits to the lottery. there _ there are two bits to the lottery. there are — there are two bits to the lottery. there are the main numbers and you have got— there are the main numbers and you have got a _ there are the main numbers and you have got a lucky stars. how many numbers— have got a lucky stars. how many numbers are there altogether? do you know how _ numbers are there altogether? do you know how many there are? no. 50 know how many there are? 50 numbers. you know how many there are? iip. 50 numbers. you have to get five of them _ numbers. you have to get five of them i_ numbers. you have to get five of them i did — numbers. you have to get five of them. i did this as an exercise yesterday _ them. i did this as an exercise yesterday. the chances of getting the first _ yesterday. the chances of getting the first number is five out of 50. that _ the first number is five out of 50. that makes— the first number is five out of 50. that makes sense. five numbers out of 50~ _ that makes sense. five numbers out of 50~ but _ that makes sense. five numbers out of 50~ but in — that makes sense. five numbers out of 50. but in maths there is something called conditional probability. once you have got the first one _ probability. once you have got the first one correct, the second one changes— first one correct, the second one changes because they are already four left _ changes because they are already four left over. it becomes multiplied by four out of 49. can you guess — multiplied by four out of 49. can you guess what the chances are getting — you guess what the chances are getting the next one? two you guess what the chances are getting the next one?— you guess what the chances are getting the next one? two out of 48. to write a 47- — getting the next one? two out of 48. to write a 47. one _ getting the next one? two out of 48. to write a 47. one out _ getting the next one? two out of 48. to write a 47. one out of— getting the next one? two out of 48. to write a 47. one out of 46 - getting the next one? two out of 48. to write a 47. one out of 46 is - getting the next one? two out of 48. to write a 47. one out of 46 is the i to write a 47. one out of 46 is the last one. . .. . , to write a 47. one out of 46 is the last one. , ., , , to write a 47. one out of 46 is the lastone. , ., , , ,., last one. this actually gives us one half .11 8 million. _ last one. this actually gives us one half .11 8 million. it _ last one. this actually gives us one 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conditional. once you have got the first one you only need _ once you have got the first one you only need one out of how many left over? _ only need one out of how many left over? it _ only need one out of how many left over? it i— only need one out of how many left over? ii. i love the maths on bbc over?. i love the maths on bbc breakfast — over? ii. i love the maths on bbc breakfast. that is one out of 66. but now — breakfast. that is one out of 66. but now you have got two events that we have _ but now you have got two events that we have to _ but now you have got two events that we have to multiply. that gives us one in— we have to multiply. that gives us one in 139 — we have to multiply. that gives us one in 139 million, 148,000160. one in139 million, 148,000160. stop— one in 139 million, 148,000160. stop writing numbers, bobby! andy, come on. stop writing numbers, bobby! andy, come on- you _ stop writing numbers, bobby! andy, come on. you have _ stop writing numbers, bobby! andy, come on. you have got _ stop writing numbers, bobby! andy, come on. you have got one - stop writing numbers, bobby! andy, come on. you have got one of- stop writing numbers, bobby! andy, come on. you have got one of the i come on. you have got one of the bestjob5 ever. what a lovely thing to do, to talk to people who have just won million5 to do, to talk to people who have just won millions of pounds. what is the first thing you say to them? our advice is sage _ the first thing you say to them? our advice is sage advice, take your time. _ advice is sage advice, take your time. do — advice is sage advice, take your time, do nothing _ advice is sage advice, take your time, do nothing quickly, - advice is sage advice, take your time, do nothing quickly, let. advice is sage advice, take your time, do nothing quickly, let it| advice is sage advice, take your. time, do nothing quickly, let it all sink in _ time, do nothing quickly, let it all sink in have _ time, do nothing quickly, 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are the only people who understand. ~ ., _ because they are the only people who understand._ everybody! i understand. who pays?! everybody! bobb , i understand. who pays?! everybody! bobby. i don't— understand. who pays?! everybody! bobby, i don't know _ understand. who pays?! everybody! bobby, i don't know if _ understand. who pays?! everybody! bobby, i don't know if you _ understand. who pays?! everybody! bobby, i don't know if you do - understand. who pays?! everybody! bobby, i don't know if you do the . bobby, i don't know if you do the lottery, but if you did what would you splurge 180 odd million on? mr; you splurge 180 odd million on? my plan would be to buy west ham stadium — plan would be to buy west ham stadium and fill it with lots of maths — stadium and fill it with lots of maths textbooks.— stadium and fill it with lots of maths textbooks. ~ ., ., ., ., maths textbooks. what a great idea. and , one maths textbooks. what a great idea. andy. one of— maths textbooks. what a great idea. andy. one of the _ maths textbooks. what a great idea. andy, one of the things _ maths textbooks. what a great idea. andy, one of the things you - maths textbooks. what a great idea. andy, one of the things you can - maths textbooks. what a great idea. andy, one of the things you can do i andy, one of the things you can do if you win money is you can do something good, give something back, and i guess that makes you feel happier too?— and i guess that makes you feel hauiertoo? , , happier too? yes, absolutely. the to- 12 happier too? yes, absolutely. the top 12 lottery _ happier too? yes, absolutely. the top 12 lottery winners _ happier too? yes, absolutely. the top 12 lottery winners in _ happier too? yes, absolutely. the top 12 lottery winners in the - happier too? yes, absolutely. the top 12 lottery winners in the uk i happier too? yes, absolutely. the i top 12 lottery winners in the uk won over 100 _ top 12 lottery winners in the uk won over 100 million. they have all done amazing _ over 100 million. they have all done amazing things. set up a charitable trust. _ amazing things. set up a charitable trust. give — amazing things. set up a charitable trust, give money away, made other people _ trust, give money away, made other people millionaires. everything trickles— people millionaires. everything trickles down. it frees people up to do something. they want to be philanthropic with it.— do something. they want to be philanthropic with it. bobby, for those keen _ philanthropic with it. bobby, for those keen to _ philanthropic with it. bobby, for those keen to get _ philanthropic with it. bobby, for those keen to get involved, - philanthropic with it. bobby, for those keen to get involved, is i philanthropic with it. bobby, for i those keen to get involved, is they tho5e keen to get involved, is they are a maths strategy? can those keen to get involved, is they are a maths strategy? can you apply probability rules? this are a maths strategy? can you 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numbers. i would be a lucky dip man. press a button on the website, buy a i press a button on the website, buy a ticket. _ press a button on the website, buy a ticket. it's_ press a button on the website, buy a ticket. it's easy _ press a button on the website, buy a ticket, it's easy. iinfe— press a button on the website, buy a ticket. it's easy-— ticket, it's easy. we will probably talk to you _ ticket, it's easy. we will probably talk to you again _ ticket, it's easy. we will probably talk to you again if _ ticket, it's easy. we will probably talk to you again if you _ ticket, it's easy. we will probably talk to you again if you get i ticket, it's easy. we will probably talk to you again if you get to i talk to you again if you get to speak to somebody who wins all that money. thank you very much. bobby fancy said. remind us of those odds again? fancy said. remind us of those odds auain? ., again? one in 139 million. according to the british — again? one in 139 million. according to the british medical _ again? one in 139 million. according to the british medicaljournal- again? one in 139 million. according to the british medicaljournal you i to the british medicaljournal you are four times more likely to be struck dead by lightning. thank you for that. las vegas may not be happening _ thank you for that. las vegas may not be happening after _ thank you for that. las vegas may not be happening after all. - thank you for that. las vegas may not be happening after all. neveri not be happening after all. never mind. not be happening after all. never mind- thanks _ not be happening after all. never mind. thanks very _ not be happening after all. never mind. thanks very much, - not be happening after all. never mind. thanks very much, andy. i stay with us. headlines coming up. good morning. welcome to breakfast with dan walker and sally nugent. our headlines today... one of the worst public health failures ever. a report by mp5 condemns the response to the early stages of the pandemic. we were operating in a fog of uncertainty. it's not to point the finger of blame, it's to try to learn the lessons, so that in the future we can be stronger. a deal to support companies struggling with high energy bills. the government is expected to announce details in the next few days. announce details in the next few da s. ~ ., . ., ., announce details in the next few da s. ., . ., ., ., days. when? how much? i am at a -a er days. when? how much? i am at a paper factory _ days. when? how much? i am at a paper factory in — days. when? how much? i am at a paper factory in cumbria _ days. when? how much? i am at a paper factory in cumbria which i days. when? how much? i am at a | paper factory in cumbria which says the government needs to step up now before it is too late.— before it is too late. smaller businesses. _ before it is too late. smaller businesses. today _ before it is too late. smaller businesses. today will i before it is too late. smaller businesses. today will be i before it is too late. smaller i businesses. today will be cloudy in many areas was that there will be light and patchy rain here and there. brightening up and chili in there. brightening up and chili in the east this afternoon. all the details in ten minutes. it's tuesday 12th october. the government's failure to recognise the importance of testing at the start of the covid pandemic meant it was operating in the dark. the clerk was part of the team which issued a report condemning the failures over the coronavirus pandemic. we are still living through, says this report, the biggest health crisis of the last 100 years. millions have been infected, many thousands of lives have been lost to covid. when we brought back people from wuhan injanuary... for a year now, two influential groups of mp5 have been taking evidence on the pandemic from people involved in key decisions at the time. now in this report, they strongly criticise the early response. instead of locking down hard and fast like some other countries, they say ministers, guided by scientific advisers, made a deliberate decision to introduce social distancing rules gradually until it was clear the nhs could be overwhelmed. mp5 describe that as a serious error which proved fatal to many. we were too slow in that initial lockdown. we were operating in a fog of uncertainty. even the government's advisers, professor neil ferguson, in evidence to my committee said, if we had locked down a week earlier we might even have saved half the number of deaths in that initial wave. everyone accepts that we locked down too late. across 150 pages of the report, there is more criticism. it describes the roll—out of the test and trace programme in england as slow and chaotic. it says the uk did not impose rigorous border controls, letting in high numbers of infections from france and spain. it criticises the treatment of care homes, saying the risks were not recognised soon enough, leading to devastating and preventable repercussions. the report has actually picked up things we were saying from the outset, that social care was an afterthought. the mantra was nhs, we have to keep it safe. we understood some of that. what we did not know was the discharge out of hospitals was actually not through testing. they were not safe discharges. there was though praise for parts of the national response. the vaccine programme was described as one of the most effective initiatives in the history of uk science. treatments for covid were also singled out as well. one, dexamethasone, was widely used first in this country and has saved more than a million lives around the world. the government says throughout the pandemic it has been guided by scientific experts and has not shied away from taking quick action, including on lockdowns. it says it is committed to learning lessons and will hold a full public inquiry in the spring. jim reed, bbc news. a support package for firms struggling with the soaring cost of energy could be announced within days. the prime minister is believed to have backed proposals to provide loans worth hundreds of millions of pounds. our business correspondent, theo leggett, reports. forging steel requires a lot of heat and that consumes a great deal of energy. small wonder then that steelmakers want the government to help them cope with a steep rise in energy costs. it isn't just steel. cement manufacturers, chemicals firms, glass—makers and ceramics businesses are also appealing for support. not all companies are affected in the same way by rising costs. some have bought their gas and electricity in advance and are protected from price rises, at least for the time being. others though are not. for them, this is an incredibly serious predicament, leading some to scale back production or to raise product prices. of course the longer this period of high prices continues, the more companies are impacted and the more severe those impacts are and, at some point, it starts to threaten their company viability. the government faces a dilemma. it wants to help viable businesses cope with soaring costs but it doesn't want to prop up failing companies. direct subsidies would add to the burden on taxpayers, while a cap on electricity or gas prices would risk simply passing on extra costs to energy companies. but labour says what businesses are asking for is reasonable. they felt a package of support is needed through the winter when gas and electricity prices are usually higher and to get through this temporary spike in gas and electricity prices. that's what they're looking for. they're not looking for a permanent bailout or a subsidy. what they are looking for is targeted support now, which is what is happening in other european countries. the chancellor now does at least have concrete proposals to look at, passed on by the business secretary after consultations with industry. whatever options he chooses, someone, somewhere is going to have to pay in the end. theo leggett, bbc news. we can speak now to our chief political correspondent adam fleming, who is in westminster this morning. morning, great to see you. the government didn't exactly you'll speak with one voice on this crisis lately. how is the support expected to come through in the next days? we do to come through in the next days? - do not know yet. what has happened at the moment of the business department in consultation with the industries that use a lot of energy, like steel, aluminium, glass and ceramics has come up with options they are now discussing with the treasury who would release the money. what they are focusing on is the idea of government guaranteed loans for the companies, it is speculated. the government would step in if they could not pay their loans back that would be consistent with the whole approach of the government to the energy problem. they do not want to prop up companies that technically should fail and also they do not want taxpayers money to be used to just help companies deal with natural market forces, which is why you might end up with something like a state backed loan. it is worth catching up with one of the crises we had a few weeks ago. do you remember the fertiliser plant question one of the by—products of fertiliser is carbon dioxide gas, which ends up in all sorts of things like feed to nuclear power. it shut down for a couple of days because of the high price of energy. the government stepped in with money for a couple of weeks. now the industry itself has stepped in to come up with a medium—term solution to keep the factory going untiljanuary next year at least. that is an example of how the problems are gradually being sold. every week brings a new problem to a new sector of the economy because of the high energy prices. i wonder what we will be talking about next week. inonfha prices. i wonder what we will be talking about next week. who knows? thank ou talking about next week. who knows? thank you very _ talking about next week. who knows? thank you very much. _ the brexit minister, lord frost, is expected to stress the need for major changes to post brexit trading arrangements in northern ireland, in a major speech to diplomats later. it comes after the irish foreign minister accused the uk of undermining eu efforts to resolve problems with the arrangements known as the northern ireland protocol. lord frost says he wants to see the european court ofjustice removed from its oversight role. job vacancies have hit a record high according to official figures released this morning. last night there were 1.2 million vacancies across the uk. according to the office for national statistics, the number of workers and uk payrolls rose to just over 29 million. the latest incarnation of superman will come out as bisexual in a new comic book. jonathan kent, the son of clark and lois lane, will share a same—sex kiss with his friend in the november issue. the announcement was made on national coming out day. one lucky briton could be on the verge of the biggest lottery win in history if they scoop tonight's euromillions draw. there's an estimated jackpot of £184 million — that's more than 5,000 times the average salary in the uk, and enough to buy 340 average—priced properties in london. all trip to las vegas for carol and sally. i think it would last about a week! i have seen both on a night out. i think you are right. absolutely not true at will. some of us last night were lucky enough to see the northern lights. this picture is from caithness. look at the colours! this is from shetland were sent in by sean. in fact he had sentin were sent in by sean. in fact he had sent in the next one as well. beautiful pictures. tonight you are more likely not to see the northern lights then you are to see them in the north of the country because today will be cloudy and chilly in the north—east. what we have is a weather front. the north—east. what we have is a weatherfront. here it is, drifting out into the north—east. it will come back away as we head on through the course of the day. a lot of clad around and also patchy light rain. by around and also patchy light rain. by the afternoon you will notice it is brightening up the sunshine across the north—east of scotland and as the weather front drifts towards the west, it will brighten up towards the west, it will brighten up behind in the east. there is also some sunshine across parts of south—west england, south wales and the east of northern ireland as well the east of northern ireland as well the top temperatures getting up to about 16, 17 at best. as he pushed up about 16, 17 at best. as he pushed up towards lerwick, and then this east coast on the other side of the weather front, east coast on the other side of the weatherfront, it east coast on the other side of the weather front, it will feel much cooler. through this evening and overnight we will start with some clear skies in it is. a lot of clad in the west some coastal and hill dampness and drizzle. the weather front moving across the north of scotland introducing some rain which will be heaviest in the northern isles. these are the overnight lows in towns and cities. in rural areas it will be lower than that. tomorrow morning we say goodbye early on to the band of rain. tomorrow a mixture of variable amounts of cloud, some sunshine. temperatures 12 to about 17 degrees. things change a bit on thursday that is because we have a cold front coming in across the north of scotland introducing brisk wins and heavy rain. note the direction of the wind. it will start to cool down from the north during thursday. the head of weatherfront we're still in milder conditions with a fair bit of cloud at times but also some sunshine. overnight thursday and into friday the weather front slip southwards, eventually getting down into southern england. behind the car there will be a lot of dry weather, a fair bit of sunshine and cloud floating in the north and the west. note the difference in the temperatures. the cold front has sunk south and behind it the cooler air has followed on. if you cast your mind back to last weekend when it was so mild, in fact one full some of us, temperatures got into the low 205 but at this weekend is looking quite different, it will not be as warm but there will still be quite a bit of dry weather around as well. thank you very much. go and pack your bag. i am sure we are on our way. fabulous. thank you. this is quite hard to watch. the people we are going to talk about now, they describe themselves as the club no—one wants to be a part of. a football team of bereaved fathers, united by the loss of a child. angels united fc grew out of an online support group for dads dealing with grief, and players wear the names of their child on the back of their shirt. katie walderman went to meet them. forjake, forjimmy and steve, it's more than a game, more than just football. i think it's the fact that they get it. i know that's quite simple but most people don't understand what it's like to lose a child. you get to pull on your baby's shirt and baby's name and get to play in their honour and that's massive. that 90 minutes, whatever it is, that i'm on the field, i play- 120% for him because he'll never get to kick a ball. i you know? i'll never know what he | looked like or anything. jimmy and his partner lost their little boy alfie at 28 weeks. we went into the hospital. and we knew straightaway. when the scanner looked at us, i we just spent four days hugging. that's all you can do. just be there for one another. for myself, i tried i to be the strong one. i think a lot of men try to be i strong, and i kept everything in. after finding support online from others experiencing the same heartbreak, they decided to club together and angels united was formed. it's given me a purpose again. realising you're not on your own, you're not the only person it is happening to. steve and his partner have also been through a number of miscarriages. the names on the shirt aren't actually our names, it's the names of all the children we've lost, the babies. my shirt says arlo because we've had six miscarriages. it's "always remember little ones." we probably will name him arlo if we have a little boy in the future. one of the club's newest members is jake. his little girl lily may died last summer from cancer. # into the unknown...# she was a little princess. cheeky, funny, full of character. she was so loud. loved being centre of attention. she was an absolute angel when she was here. she is an angel now. if we are having a bad day, we know that every other member of that team truly knows what we are going through. no—one who i've come across in my life before angels knows what it's like to sit in a room with all of lily's things but without lily. i know that we still have a can of beans and sausage because that was the last thing that lily asked for to eat and so we can't get rid of that can. that will sit in our cupboard forever. some people don't want to talk about lily because they think it might be a trigger, it might upset me but actually i want to talk about her because she's still my daughter. it's just that we can't make any new memories but i can still look at the old memories with joy and regardless of the fact that sometimes i might get upset. the next day, the same conversation might fill me with joy and that'sjust part of the process. this month, the club turns one. as part of ba by loss awareness week, we join them for a special memorial match. they've teamed up with sands united, another team brought together by bereavement. because of what this week represents, i think it will touch base with a lot of players. to have another team that's i celebrating our children means everything to everybody on this pitch. _ before kick—off, a minute's silence is held to remember all their lost little ones. being on the pitch with people who have gone through the same things as you, it makes you feel whole again and it gives you a purpose again. i think that's what we've all needed and that's why we're all here to support each other. it's notjust playing football. it's also the family side and involving the partners, the other children, extended family in this club as well, it means so much to everyone involved. i hope that there's a dad out there today that's watching that will be inclined to give us a call, give us a message on facebook. 30 lads that will text you and ring you and just see how you are. i katie walderman, bbc news. an incredible film. hard to watch but such an important message. two people who know all too well the devastating impact the loss of a baby can have is former love island winnerjessica hayes and the ceo of the saying goodbye charity, zoe clark coates. they both join us now in the studio. morning. great to have you in the studio with us to talk about theirs. that incredible film, seeing dads talking about their feelings. that is quite something, isn't it? jess, tammy festival, what happened to you and how have people, friends, family reacted to you? —— tell me first of all. i reacted to you? -- tell me first of all. .,, , , reacted to you? -- tell me first of all. .,. , , , all. i lost my little boy, teddy, last november. _ all. i lost my little boy, teddy, last november. i _ all. i lost my little boy, teddy, last november. i was - all. i lost my little boy, teddy, last november. i was halfwayi all. i lost my little boy, teddy, i last november. i was halfway through pregnancy. it was a spontaneous loss, not expected. i went into premature labour and there was nothing that could really be done. maybe a month later they could possibly have saved him but unfortunately it was a horrible outcome for me. friends, ifeel like it is very difficult. i feel like people don't know what to say a lot of the time, they don't how to approach and are scared if they say the wrong thing. i totally get that and is part of i want to raise him much awareness as well, to help family and friends support people better. i’m family and friends support people better. �* . . . .. family and friends support people better. �* , , ., ,, ., family and friends support people better. �* , , .«i ., ., ., better. i'm speaking to someone who suffered a last _ better. i'm speaking to someone who suffered a last week _ better. i'm speaking to someone who suffered a last week and _ better. i'm speaking to someone who suffered a last week and they - better. i'm speaking to someone who suffered a last week and they said i suffered a last week and they said they felt they learn so much. some people rang to say, i am here if you want anything. just for someone to ring and know you are there. knowing someone is — ring and know you are there. knowing someone is there _ ring and know you are there. knowing someone is there for _ ring and know you are there. knowing someone is there for you _ ring and know you are there. knowing someone is there for you but - ring and know you are there. knowing someone is there for you but even i ring and know you are there. knowing someone is there for you but even if i someone is there for you but even if they do not have the words and acknowledging that. the baby did exist and the baby to die. not to kind of like you know, go around it, just mention them by the name. make it personal to them. yes. that just mention them by the name. make it personal to them. yes.— it personal to them. yes. that is really important. _ it personal to them. yes. that is really important. zoe, _ it personal to them. yes. that is really important. zoe, i- it personal to them. yes. that is really important. zoe, i know. it personal to them. yes. that is | really important. zoe, i know you devastating lost several babies, didn't you? you work now with families with mums and dads to try and make the aftermath of the situation a little bit better. what would you like to see happen to people who have lost a baby in pregnancy? what help you need? whatever the loss, whether in pregnancy or after, we need better support. _ pregnancy or after, we need better support, ongoing support as well. sadly— support, ongoing support as well. sadly that — support, ongoing support as well. sadly that is lacking here in the uk and beyond actually. we need the losses— and beyond actually. we need the losses recognised for what they are. noti'ust— losses recognised for what they are. notjust a _ losses recognised for what they are. notjust a medical losses recognised for what they are. not just a medical condition losses recognised for what they are. notjust a medical condition but they are — notjust a medical condition but they are the loss of a life is that we need — they are the loss of a life is that we need better support, good after—care, better assessment of after—ca re, better assessment of people _ after—ca re, better assessment of people to — after—care, better assessment of people to see if they are suffering with ptsd in conditions like that which _ with ptsd in conditions like that which research shows a lot of people do suffer— which research shows a lot of people do suffer with. which research shows a lot of people do suffer with-— do suffer with. interns at the idea of settin: do suffer with. interns at the idea of setting up _ do suffer with. interns at the idea of setting up a — do suffer with. interns at the idea of setting up a charity, _ do suffer with. interns at the idea of setting up a charity, were i do suffer with. interns at the idea of setting up a charity, were that| of setting up a charity, were that other people you got involved with? —— in terms of the idea. we other people you got involved with? -- in terms of the idea.— -- in terms of the idea. we sadly lost by babies — -- in terms of the idea. we sadly lost by babies ourselves. - -- in terms of the idea. we sadly lost by babies ourselves. we - -- in terms of the idea. we sadly lost by babies ourselves. we sawl lost by babies ourselves. we saw what _ lost by babies ourselves. we saw what was — lost by babies ourselves. we saw what was lacking. we saw there was an organisation missing that offered support— an organisation missing that offered support for whatever loss, whether in pregnancy or early years. there was not _ in pregnancy or early years. there was not an— in pregnancy or early years. there was not an organisation offering support— was not an organisation offering support to anybody, whatever their gestation — support to anybody, whatever their gestation. that was really important. also important to get support— important. also important to get support for people who had been there _ support for people who had been there themselves. we did not know there themselves. we did not know the language, the terminology, we knew— the language, the terminology, we knew we _ the language, the terminology, we knew we needed great, compassionate support _ knew we needed great, compassionate support. that is why we founded our trust which — support. that is why we founded our trust which most people know by our primary— trust which most people know by our primary support division, saying goodbye — primary support division, saying goodbye. it is amazingly rich so many— goodbye. it is amazingly rich so many people but tragic that so many people _ many people but tragic that so many people need support. as many people but tragic that so many people need support.— people need support. as serie 'ust mentioned. — people need support. as serie 'ust mentioned. it fl people need support. as serie 'ust mentioned, it is i people need support. as serie 'ust mentioned, it is not i people need support. as serie 'ust mentioned, it is notjust �* people need support. as serie just mentioned, it is notjust helping i people need support. as serie just mentioned, it is notjust helping in the moment, it is ongoing help you might need. people might have lost a child decades ago and it is still with them. child decades ago and it is still with them-— child decades ago and it is still with them. ., , , , ., with them. completely. it is not something _ with them. completely. it is not something you _ with them. completely. it is not something you never _ with them. completely. it is not something you never get - with them. completely. it is not something you never get over, l something you never get over, identifying. time can be a healer but at the same time you would have a the days, christmases, all the things that really bring it to the surface again. ifeel like things that really bring it to the surface again. i feel like support is not there. you leave the hospital and you are left to your own devices. you have to get the help yourself of that really needs to change. how are you now? i am 0k. like, iam change. how are you now? i am 0k. like, i am doing better. change. how are you now? i am 0k. like, iam doing better. i change. how are you now? i am 0k. like, i am doing better. i think it is his third birthday, his first year anniversary when we lost him on the 30th of november. so that will be really difficult.— be really difficult. there is other tou . h be really difficult. there is other tough days. _ be really difficult. there is other tough days, aren't _ be really difficult. there is other tough days, aren't they? - be really difficult. there is other tough days, aren't they? also i tough days, aren't they? also christmas- — tough days, aren't they? also christmas. we _ tough days, aren't they? also christmas. we had _ tough days, aren't they? also christmas. we had his - tough days, aren't they? l"r christmas. we had his funeral on the 18th of december so everything to do with christmas i relate now. it will be a tough couple of months. you just have to be strong. it is hard, really hard, but, yes. i just have to be strong. it is hard, really hard, but, yes.— really hard, but, yes. i am sure n-eole really hard, but, yes. i am sure people watching _ really hard, but, yes. i am sure people watching do _ really hard, but, yes. i am sure people watching do struggle . really hard, but, yes. i am sure i people watching do struggle with finding the right words at the right times. do you like to talk about teddy to people now? do they ask you questions? how do you like people to approach you?— approach you? obviously i love to talk about him _ approach you? obviously i love to talk about him because _ approach you? obviously i love to talk about him because it - approach you? obviously i love to talk about him because it is - talk about him because it is remembering him. i do love to tell my story. i think sometimes when you are grieving, you kinda go one way the other. sometimes you can block out the trauma as well. i always love to talk about him and share my stories to help others. that is why i carried on doing so because i had so many women reaching out to me saying, thank you so much for telling me your story because you have help me in so many ways to be brave and speak about it and relate to what you have gone through. interesting to watch both of you watching the piece before you came on as well. the fact there were dads and dad speaking really honestly and brutally about how they felt and the loss they had gone through. haifa loss they had gone through. how im nortant loss they had gone through. how important is _ loss they had gone through. how important is that? _ loss they had gone through. how important is that? it _ loss they had gone through. honor important is that? it is really important. a common misconception is the fact that baby loss only affects women and actually affects every member of the family, so including partners. it is really important we recognise and offer support to everybody who needs it but also give out the message that it is ok to talk about it, whatever your gender. it does not matter. if you are hurting or have been affected, this is a safe space to talk. you mention ou have is a safe space to talk. you mention you have experienced _ is a safe space to talk. you mention you have experienced ptsd - is a safe space to talk. you mention you have experienced ptsd can - is a safe space to talk. you mention you have experienced ptsd can be i you have experienced ptsd can be missed and not diagnosed for a long time. ~ . , ., ., , missed and not diagnosed for a long time. . , ., ., , time. what should family and friends be lookin: time. what should family and friends be looking out _ time. what should family and friends be looking out for? _ time. what should family and friends be looking out for? looking - time. what should family and friends be looking out for? looking out - time. what should family and friends be looking out for? looking out for. be looking out for? looking out for people _ be looking out for? looking out for peopte hot— be looking out for? looking out for people not feeling they can move forward — people not feeling they can move forward. you never get over and ask that it _ forward. you never get over and ask that it is _ forward. you never get over and ask that it is something you learn to live with. — that it is something you learn to live with, something you get better at parrying. the loss does not get smaller, — at parrying. the loss does not get smaller, you get stronger at carrying _ smaller, you get stronger at carrying degree. if people feel it is hot _ carrying degree. if people feel it is not possible to move forward, they— is not possible to move forward, they are — is not possible to move forward, they are suffering may be panic attacks, — they are suffering may be panic attacks, nightmares, struggling with eating _ attacks, nightmares, struggling with eating. although there is a key science — eating. although there is a key science for people to look out for ptsd _ science for people to look out for ptsd. those situations, i would encourage — ptsd. those situations, i would encourage people to really give your relatives. _ encourage people to really give your relatives, family members and friends — relatives, family members and friends an— relatives, family members and friends an edge to speak to the gp because _ friends an edge to speak to the gp because it — friends an edge to speak to the gp because it is certainly something a medicat— because it is certainly something a medical professional needs to get involved _ medical professional needs to get involved with, to give people a proper— involved with, to give people a proper diagnosis.— involved with, to give people a proper diagnosis. jess, from your perspective. _ proper diagnosis. jess, from your perspective. you _ proper diagnosis. jess, from your perspective, you have _ proper diagnosis. jess, from your perspective, you have given - proper diagnosis. jess, from your perspective, you have given a - perspective, you have given a semi—practical advice today. what sort of advice would you give to people he has not spoken to anyone or dealt with and has not had conversations you have been able to have some of the help and advice you have had? figs have some of the help and advice you have had? �* , have some of the help and advice you have had? . , ., have had? as i said, the mental health impacts _ have had? as i said, the mental health impacts are _ have had? as i said, the mental health impacts are huge. - have had? as i said, the mental health impacts are huge. i - have had? as i said, the mental health impacts are huge. i did i health impacts are huge. i did suffer with ptsd myself a long time and i had to take quite a long period of time off work. i would say, if you help, reach out for help. do not be afraid to speak to friends, family, even your gp. get all the help you can and know that, you know, over time, all the help you can and know that, you know, overtime, it will get easier. and again, like the saying goodbye charity, amazing support there. please do not suffer in silence. like me get the help that you need. silence. like me get the help that ou need. �* , . silence. like me get the help that ou need. �*, ., ., , silence. like me get the help that ou need. �*, . ., , , you need. there's a really wise words to end _ you need. there's a really wise words to end on. _ you need. there's a really wise words to end on. please - you need. there's a really wise words to end on. please do - you need. there's a really wise| words to end on. please do not suffer in silence. thank you so much for talking to us about something so deeply personal. anki. —— thank you. if you've been affected by any of these issues you can get information and support on the bbc action line. the website is bbc.co.uk/action line. as we have been talking about as welcome and lot of charities can help. it does make a big difference to speak to somebody. time now to get the news, travel and weather where you are. good morning from bbc london, i'm asad ahmad. the headteacher of a school in wembley, which is often called the strictest in britain, has been appointed as the government's new social mobility commissioner. katharine birbalsingh has been given responsibility for levelling up opportunity and giving everyone a chance to succeed. her views have proved controversial in the past, saying underachievement by black pupils was due partly to the "chaos of our classrooms". she leads the michaela school, which is rated outstanding. bbc london has been given rare access to downview women's prison in sutton. around 250 prisoners are there, and efforts are being made to teach inmates new skills, including textiles and photography. it aims to lower reoffending rates and help women getjobs after release. if we do that, we keep the public safe, we cut crime and we offer opportunities to these prisoners who perhaps have not had the opportunities like this before they came into prison. a playwright from east london has slashed the time it takes her to write a sell—out play from two years to just a couple of days. it's after lucy kirkwood heard about the murder of school teacher sabina nessa in kidbrook last month. she wrote maryland — about violence against women — and emailed it to the royal court theatre in chelsea, who put it on immediately. kirkwood said she feels like the play "had to happen now". the tate modern has unveiled its latest commission from the turbine hall. it is floating pod creatures which follow youabout. the work is called in love with the world. the pods detect body heat to follow visitors around the hall. the work was delayed because of covid. now the weather with kate. good morning. high pressure still in charge of our weather. however, today we have a cold front and that will introduce more in the way of cloud. but it is a bright start. sunshine around first thing, albeit hazy. the cloud will gradually progress. as we head into the afternoon we lose the sunshine. the cloud will produce the odd spot of light rain or drizzle. temperatures reaching a maximum of 16 celsius. this evening and overnight the cloud will break up. the cold front moves away. we get clear spells and mist and fog patches. the minimum temperature in single figures. it could feel quite chilly away from central london. into tomorrow morning, that mist and fog will lift. we will see sunny spells developing. high pressure still there. on thursday it starts to slip away. thursday is actually quite a decent day. eventually we will see the sunshine. the temperature feeling quite warm, 17 or 18 celsius. more cloud on friday, sunny spells into the weekend, turning unsettled next week. i'm back with the latest from the bbc london hello, this is breakfast with dan walker and sally nugent. it is exactly half past eight. the government support package for businesses struggling with the soaring cost of energy is expected to be announced within days. hind soaring cost of energy is expected to be announced within days. nina is at a n-aer to be announced within days. nina is at a paper manufacturer _ to be announced within days. nina is at a paper manufacturer in _ to be announced within days. nina is at a paper manufacturer in cumbria i at a paper manufacturer in cumbria and she is talking about some of the impact that rising energy bills could have on this. companies play as —— staggering amount for energy each there, don't they? yes. as -- staggering amount for energy each there, don't they?— each there, don't they? yes, you thou:ht each there, don't they? yes, you thought your— each there, don't they? yes, you thought your bill _ each there, don't they? yes, you thought your bill was _ each there, don't they? yes, you thought your bill was high - each there, don't they? yes, you thought your bill was high at - each there, don't they? yes, you| thought your bill was high at your house _ thought your bill was high at your house we — thought your bill was high at your house. we are not far from the river kent _ house. we are not far from the river kent since — house. we are not far from the river kent. since 1845 that river has powered — kent. since 1845 that river has powered a paper manufacturing on this site _ powered a paper manufacturing on this site in — powered a paper manufacturing on this site. in the decades since then they have — this site. in the decades since then they have diversified. have a little look down — they have diversified. have a little look down here to that white strip. that is— look down here to that white strip. that is made from something which is used to— that is made from something which is used to insulated homes. the silver role you _ used to insulated homes. the silver role you can — used to insulated homes. the silver role you can see just beyond it, that _ role you can see just beyond it, that is— role you can see just beyond it, that is a — role you can see just beyond it, that is a form of carbon paper which is used _ that is a form of carbon paper which is used as— that is a form of carbon paper which is used as an — that is a form of carbon paper which is used as an alternative to fossil fuels _ is used as an alternative to fossil fuels. just— is used as an alternative to fossil fuels. just here next to me this slowly— fuels. just here next to me this slowly rolling bed is where new materials— slowly rolling bed is where new materials are squashed down. we have been told _ materials are squashed down. we have been told not to touch it. we are being _ been told not to touch it. we are being super careful. when energy prices _ being super careful. when energy prices go — being super careful. when energy prices go up, they wince here because — prices go up, they wince here because they spend £60,000 every single _ because they spend £60,000 every single week on energy. that translates to more than £3 million a year _ translates to more than £3 million a year lets— translates to more than £3 million a year. let's remind ourselves why those _ year. let's remind ourselves why those prices are going up. we have set it— those prices are going up. we have set it several times. since _ set it several times. since january the wholesale price of .as since january the wholesale price of gas has _ since january the wholesale price of gas has gone up 250% because of the increased _ gas has gone up 250% because of the increased demand and reduced supply. businesses _ increased demand and reduced supply. businesses like this one and protected as you and i are at home by energy— protected as you and i are at home by energy price caps. that is because _ by energy price caps. that is because the wholesale sellers of energy— because the wholesale sellers of energy needed to recoup their expenses somehow. businesses have to suffer some _ expenses somehow. businesses have to suffer some of that expense. that has led _ suffer some of that expense. that has led to — suffer some of that expense. that has led to a warning from some industries — has led to a warning from some industries that it could lead tojob losses _ industries that it could lead tojob losses a— industries that it could lead tojob losses. a warning from the head of british— losses. a warning from the head of british glass that around a quarter of their— british glass that around a quarter of their 6000 employees, those jobs could be _ of their 6000 employees, those jobs could be lost if action is not taken soon _ soon. we are hearing about these loans from _ we are hearing about these loans from the — we are hearing about these loans from the government. but will they be soon _ from the government. but will they be soon enough and will they be enough? — be soon enough and will they be enough? let's speak to bill, the ceo here _ enough? let's speak to bill, the ceo here good _ enough? let's speak to bill, the ceo here. good morning. just explain when _ here. good morning. just explain when energy prices go up, what does that mean— when energy prices go up, what does that mean to your business model? we that mean to your business model? represent a that mean to your business model? we represent a sector of industry like ceramics, — represent a sector of industry like ceramics, glass— represent a sector of industry like ceramics, glass and _ represent a sector of industry like ceramics, glass and steel. - represent a sector of industry like ceramics, glass and steel. we - represent a sector of industry likel ceramics, glass and steel. we are paper— ceramics, glass and steel. we are paper manufacturers. _ ceramics, glass and steel. we are paper manufacturers. any- ceramics, glass and steel. we are paper manufacturers. any price i paper manufacturers. any price increases — paper manufacturers. any price increases significantly- paper manufacturers. any price increases significantly going - paper manufacturers. any price increases significantly going to| increases significantly going to have _ increases significantly going to have an — increases significantly going to have an impact. _ increases significantly going to have an impact. some - increases significantly going to have an impact. some of- increases significantly going to| have an impact. some of those businesses _ have an impact. some of those businesses may— have an impact. some of those businesses may struggle - have an impact. some of those businesses may struggle with i have an impact. some of those i businesses may struggle with this level businesses may struggle with this levet of— businesses may struggle with this level of significant— businesses may struggle with this level of significant price _ businesses may struggle with this level of significant price increase. | level of significant price increase. as it— level of significant price increase. as it happens— level of significant price increase. as it happens we _ level of significant price increase. as it happens we are _ level of significant price increase. as it happens we are probably- level of significant price increase. as it happens we are probably ok here because _ as it happens we are probably ok here because of— as it happens we are probably ok here because of some _ as it happens we are probably ok here because of some of- as it happens we are probably ok here because of some of the - as it happens we are probably ok. here because of some of the items as it happens we are probably ok - here because of some of the items we have put— here because of some of the items we have put in— here because of some of the items we have put in place _ here because of some of the items we have put in place. at— here because of some of the items we have put in place. at some _ here because of some of the items we have put in place. at some of- here because of some of the items we have put in place. at some of those i have put in place. at some of those businesses — have put in place. at some of those businesses nray— have put in place. at some of those businesses may not _ have put in place. at some of those businesses may not make - have put in place. at some of those businesses may not make it. - have put in place. at some of those businesses may not make it. essen i have put in place. at some of those businesses may not make it. even for businesses may not make it. even for businesses that _ businesses may not make it. even for businesses that are _ businesses may not make it. even for businesses that are well _ businesses may not make it. even for businesses that are well reinforced, i businesses that are well reinforced, it means _ businesses that are well reinforced, it means you can't grow any more, can't _ it means you can't grow any more, can't take _ it means you can't grow any more, can't take on— it means you can't grow any more, can't take on more people. should we take this _ can't take on more people. should we take this as— can't take on more people. should we take this as a — can't take on more people. should we take this as a warning that our reliance — take this as a warning that our reliance on _ take this as a warning that our reliance on fossil fuels need to end sooner? _ reliance on fossil fuels need to end sooner? �* , . , , , reliance on fossil fuels need to end sooner? h . ,, , , sooner? let's assume this is short-term- _ sooner? let's assume this is short-term. we _ sooner? let's assume this is short-term. we have - sooner? let's assume this is short-term. we have to - sooner? let's assume this is - short-term. we have to continue the short—term. we have to continue the long-term _ short—term. we have to continue the long-term strategy— short—term. we have to continue the long—term strategy of— short—term. we have to continue the long—term strategy of moving - short—term. we have to continue the long—term strategy of moving to - long—term strategy of moving to carbon _ long—term strategy of moving to carbon zero _ long—term strategy of moving to carbon zero. we _ long—term strategy of moving to carbon zero. we are _ long—term strategy of moving to carbon zero. we are already - long—term strategy of moving to carbon zero. we are already on. long—term strategy of moving to . carbon zero. we are already on the track _ carbon zero. we are already on the track we _ carbon zero. we are already on the track we have _ carbon zero. we are already on the track. we have put _ carbon zero. we are already on the track. we have put things- carbon zero. we are already on the track. we have put things in- carbon zero. we are already on the track. we have put things in placel track. we have put things in place already— track. we have put things in place already to — track. we have put things in place already to do _ track. we have put things in place already to do that. _ track. we have put things in place already to do that. we _ track. we have put things in place already to do that. we need - track. we have put things in place already to do that. we need to . already to do that. we need to continue _ already to do that. we need to continue. the _ already to do that. we need to continue. the issue _ already to do that. we need to continue. the issue we - already to do that. we need to continue. the issue we are - already to do that. we need to i continue. the issue we are seeing today— continue. the issue we are seeing today is— continue. the issue we are seeing today is short—term. _ continue. the issue we are seeing today is short—term. it— continue. the issue we are seeing today is short-term.— today is short-term. it might accelerate — today is short-term. it might accelerate the _ today is short-term. it might accelerate the movement - today is short-term. it might accelerate the movement forl today is short-term. it might - accelerate the movement for lots of businesses — accelerate the movement for lots of businesses like your own. what is short-term — businesses like your own. what is short—term what we need to hear and see from _ short—term what we need to hear and see from the — short—term what we need to hear and see from the government? short-term what we need to hear and see from the government?— see from the government? that's rinht. in see from the government? that's right- in terms — see from the government? that's right. in terms of— see from the government? that's right. in terms of driving - see from the government? that's right. in terms of driving that, - see from the government? that's right. in terms of driving that, we have _ right. in terms of driving that, we have launched _ right. in terms of driving that, we have launched our— right. in terms of driving that, we have launched our third _ right. in terms of driving that, we have launched our third solar- right. in terms of driving that, we - have launched our third solar scheme on site _ have launched our third solar scheme on site we _ have launched our third solar scheme on site we have _ have launched our third solar scheme on site. we have a _ have launched our third solar scheme on site. we have a hydroelectric- on site. we have a hydroelectric scheme — on site. we have a hydroelectric scheme that _ on site. we have a hydroelectric scheme. that will _ on site. we have a hydroelectric scheme. that will take - on site. we have a hydroelectric scheme. that will take years - on site. we have a hydroelectric scheme. that will take years to| scheme. that will take years to reduce — scheme. that will take years to reduce our— scheme. that will take years to reduce our technology. - scheme. that will take years to reduce our technology. some l scheme. that will take years to| reduce our technology. some of scheme. that will take years to - reduce our technology. some of the industries _ reduce our technology. some of the industries are — reduce our technology. some of the industries are going _ reduce our technology. some of the industries are going to _ reduce our technology. some of the industries are going to need - reduce our technology. some of the industries are going to need that. industries are going to need that support— industries are going to need that support long _ industries are going to need that support long - _ industries are going to need that support long - for— industries are going to need that support long — for short - industries are going to need that support long — for short term. i industries are going to need that. support long — for short term. they are to _ support long — for short term. they are to give — support long — for short term. they are to give them _ support long — for short term. they are to give them help. _ support long — for short term. they are to give them help. it— support long — for short term. they are to give them help. it is - support long - for short term. they are to give them help.— are to give them help. it is about what happens — are to give them help. it is about what happens downstream. - are to give them help. it is about what happens downstream. you | are to give them help. it is about - what happens downstream. you might look at _ what happens downstream. you might look at this— what happens downstream. you might look at this factory and think, what does _ look at this factory and think, what does this— look at this factory and think, what does this mean to me? well, they supply— does this mean to me? well, they supply hospitals, schools, care homes, — supply hospitals, schools, care homes, aeroplanes. what happens in these _ homes, aeroplanes. what happens in these businesses does matter to you. they are _ these businesses does matter to you. they are the — these businesses does matter to you. they are the biggest employer in the area _ they are the biggest employer in the area so _ they are the biggest employer in the area. so they are listening to what the deal— area. so they are listening to what the deal will look like, how big the loans— the deal will look like, how big the loans are _ the deal will look like, how big the loans are and crucially, how and when _ loans are and crucially, how and when will — loans are and crucially, how and when will they need to be paid back. ninan _ when will they need to be paid back. nina. thank— when will they need to be paid back. nina, thank you very much. from candle to the _ nina, thank you very much. from candle to the studio. _ nina, thank you very much. from candle to the studio. cat - nina, thank you very much. from candle to the studio. cat is - nina, thank you very much. fromi candle to the studio. cat is you're talking about world cup qualifiers from last night. yes, international break at the moment. we have the second round of them coming through. wales didn't wait what they needed to do. —— did what they needed to do. it wasn't the most spectacular of goals. morning. wales have kept their hopes of qualiying for next years world cup alive, with a hard fought 1—0 win against estonia. andy swiss was watching. after two consecutive draws, for wales this was all about winning. they needed to beat estonia to boost their hopes of a play—off place. the early signs were encouraging. connor roberts forced a save. and from the resulting corner things got even better. it may not win too many goal of the season awards, but kieffer moore was not complaining. a good old—fashioned scramble and wales were ahead. but it was a lead they so nearly gave away. a defensive mix—up and it needed a clearance on the goal—line to spare their blushes. after the break again it was estonia asking the questions. only a stunning save from danny ward kept wales in front. at the other end of struggled to create chances. mark harris with one of a select few. it was hardly pretty but wales held on for the victory and on a night when winning was the key, it wasjob done. andy night when winning was the key, it was job done. andy swiss, night when winning was the key, it wasjob done. andy swiss, bbc night when winning was the key, it was job done. andy swiss, bbc news. it has been a great camp for us, two away games, the performance we gave on friday in the czech republic was outstanding. we are still a young group as well. they are learning from these experiences. to come to a place like this, we knew we were never going to dominate. we knew it was going to be an ugly game. we had to match that first and foremost. with the players we have on the pitch we knew we would cause them problems. and last night, germany became the first country to qualify outright for the world cup. tonight, scotland are two more wins away from securing a place in the world cup play—offs, after their thrilling comeback to beat israel on saturday. they've travelled north to face the faroe islands. steve clarke's team are second in group f, seven points behind leaders denmark, but four ahead of both israel and austria. and the scotland boss says a lot of what they've achieved is down to the team spirit and togetherness in the squad. england are also in action tonight. they need two wins from their three remaining qualifiers to reach next year's world cup in qatar. they face hungary at wembley, and boss gareth southgate says he's delighted with the stability and proficiency of his current group of players. we can't be a team that has a day off and we want to keep the consistency of performances. we've had that definitely throughout calendar year. everybody knows there is that competition for places, everybody knows that they can't afford a day off. and they've got pride in putting the shirt on every time they play, and they want to show what they're capable of as a team. northern ireland's world cup hopes were effectively ended by losing to switzerland on saturday. that left them third in their group on five points, only above tonight's opponents bulgaria on goal difference. preston north end owner and three—time grand national winner trevor hemmings has died at the age of 86. hemmings took over the club in 2010, but was as well known for heavily investing in horse racing. he owned over 100 racehorses, including many clouds, who earned him his third grand national win in 2015. british number one dan evans is out of the indian wells masters in california, after losing to argentine diego schwartzman. evans beat former us open finalist kei nishikori in the previous round, but his game fell apart after taking the first set, and being a break of serve up in the second. he lost eight consecutive games, losing the deciding set 6—0. cameron norrie has come through a three—set battle with the spaniard roberto bautista— agut to reach the last 16. what a year he is having. and what a yearfor what a year he is having. and what a year for amy hunter. now, what were you doing on your 16th birthday? well, for one irish cricketer, her 16th birthday will be one she never forgets. amy hunter has become the youngest player, female or male, to score an international century. she hit an unbeaten 121 in the fourth one day international against zimbabwe in harare. hunter breaks the record held by mithali raj, who scored a century at 16 and 205 days in 1999. i was so relieved early on to just get off the mark and get going a bit. and then once i got 20, 30, i didn't really know what i was going to get. and then obviously i was very nervous to get my 50. and then, from there it's just, yeah, i felt a lot more comfortable. to be honest, in the 90s, i actually wasn't too nervous in the 905. i was much more nervous through the 50s. it was an amazing day. and finally, to california, where all eyes have been at the beach, where a whole range of worldwide talent has been on show. this is the 12th annual surf city surf dog competition. around 40 dogs from around the world took part in the event, all showcasing their different skills on the waves in several different classes. fair to say it was a ruff ride. every year. every yea r. every every year. every single year. i'm sure they have this because they go, there is a breakfast show on the uk, they will show the pictures. you there is a breakfast show on the uk, they will show the pictures.- they will show the pictures. you are determined — they will show the pictures. you are determined not _ they will show the pictures. you are determined not to _ they will show the pictures. you are determined not to enjoy _ they will show the pictures. you are determined not to enjoy these - determined not to enjoy these pictures but you are smiling. and you are enjoying the surfing dogs. you should be grateful. see you again next october! for most people completing a marathon in one go is a major achievement. but when two firefighters set off last sunday, they had a bigger challenge in mind. andy ball and ryanjones have been praised after videos posted on social media showed them trekking in full protective gear. that weighs around 4.5 stone. ian haslam has been to meet them. it took in more than seven and a half hours to finish, but andy ball's manchester marathon heroics have made a social media star. i was ho-nin i made a social media star. i was hoping i was — made a social media star. i was hoping i was going _ made a social media star. i was hoping i was going the - made a social media star. i was hoping i was going the right - made a social media star. i —" hoping i was going the right way. just try to follow the buttons along the ground to make sure i wasn't on a different course. there was a few people left. it was going slightly dark but it was all good. finishing an impressive _ dark but it was all good. finishing an impressive hour _ dark but it was all good. finishing an impressive hour and _ dark but it was all good. finishing an impressive hour and i - dark but it was all good. finishing an impressive hour and i have - dark but it was all good. finishing i an impressive hour and i have seen was a fellow runner ryan. nest a an impressive hour and i have seen was a fellow runner ryan. at a mile - but at mile _ was a fellow runner ryan. at a mile - but at mile 16 _ was a fellow runner ryan. at a mile - but at mile 16 it— was a fellow runner ryan. at a mile - but at mile 16 it was _ was a fellow runner ryan. at a mile - but at mile 16 it was ok. - was a fellow runner ryan. at a mile - but at mile 16 it was ok. after - — but at mile 16 it was ok. after that— — but at mile 16 it was ok. after that i_ — but at mile 16 it was ok. after that i struggled with grams. but the support— that i struggled with grams. but the support from everybody on the day and the _ support from everybody on the day and the runners was amazing. the finish _ and the runners was amazing. the finish line — and the runners was amazing. the finish line was really busy when i crossed — finish line was really busy when i crossed over. that was good as well. you could _ crossed over. that was good as well. you could look like you weren't struggling even though you were dying _ struggling even though you were dying inside. not struggling even though you were dying inside-— struggling even though you were dying inside. not surprising given the full kit weighs _ dying inside. not surprising given the full kit weighs about - dying inside. not surprising given the full kit weighs about 4.5 - dying inside. not surprising given i the full kit weighs about 4.5 stone. even wearing part of it is fairly restrictive. yeah, it'sjust not fun. it's not fun, is it?- restrictive. yeah, it'sjust not fun. it's not fun, is it? the weight didn't help- _ fun. it's not fun, is it? the weight didn't help. our— fun. it's not fun, is it? the weight didn't help. our gear— fun. it's not fun, is it? the weight didn't help. our gear is _ fun. it's not fun, is it? the weight didn't help. our gear is designed l fun. it's not fun, is it? the weight i didn't help. our gear is designed to keep the heat out but it also stops the heat from leaving us, so it is tough. 50 the heat from leaving us, so it is tounh, ., the heat from leaving us, so it is tou:h. ., a, , ., tough. so for their efforts have raised thousands _ tough. so for their efforts have raised thousands of _ tough. so for their efforts have raised thousands of pounds - tough. so for their efforts have raised thousands of pounds for| raised thousands of pounds for dementia uk and alzheimer's research uk. i dementia uk and alzheimer's research uk. ., ., , ., dementia uk and alzheimer's research uk. ., .,, ., dementia uk and alzheimer's research uk. i thought it was a good cause. a lot of people — uk. i thought it was a good cause. a lot of people i _ uk. i thought it was a good cause. a lot of people i know _ uk. i thought it was a good cause. a lot of people i know have _ uk. i thought it was a good cause. a lot of people i know have relatives i lot of people i know have relatives who suffer — lot of people i know have relatives who suffer from it. the lot of people i know have relatives who suffer from it.— who suffer from it. the goals have been smashed. _ who suffer from it. the goals have been smashed. that _ who suffer from it. the goals have been smashed. that is _ who suffer from it. the goals have been smashed. that is fantastic. i who suffer from it. the goals have | been smashed. that is fantastic. a hu . e been smashed. that is fantastic. a huge achievement _ been smashed. that is fantastic. a huge achievement on _ been smashed. that is fantastic. a huge achievement on a _ been smashed. that is fantastic. a huge achievement on a day - been smashed. that is fantastic. a. huge achievement on a day 40,000 other marathon runners created their own special memories. i other marathon runners created their own special memories.— other marathon runners created their own special memories. i have come to work in my slippers — own special memories. i have come to work in my slippers today _ own special memories. i have come to work in my slippers today because - own special memories. i have come to work in my slippers today because my| work in my slippers today because my feet are in agony. blisters popped, my legs have chafed, my shoulders are bruised, my neck is hurting. i don't know what's up with him! are bruised, my neck is hurting. i i don't know what's up with him! they have not ruled _ don't know what's up with him! they have not ruled out _ don't know what's up with him! iia: have not ruled out another don't know what's up with him! tie: have not ruled out another marathon challenge in the future. ian haslam, bbc news. ., ian haslam, bbc news. good on them. good on them- — ian haslam, bbc news. good on them. good on them. keep _ ian haslam, bbc news. good on them. good on them. keep those _ ian haslam, bbc news. good on them. good on them. keep those slippers - good on them. keep those slippers on. iwas good on them. keep those slippers on. i was talking _ good on them. keep those slippers on. i was talking to _ good on them. keep those slippers on. i was talking to you _ good on them. keep those slippers on. i was talking to you earlier- on. i was talking to you earlier about things that have gone through the roof sales wise through the pandemic. slippers sales have gone up pandemic. slippers sales have gone up 60%. bind pandemic. slippers sales have gone u- 60%. �* ., . up 60%. and not so much in the high heels. we up 60%. and not so much in the high heels- we are _ up 60%. and not so much in the high heels. we are not _ up 60%. and not so much in the high heels. we are not going _ up 60%. and not so much in the high heels. we are not going anywhere. i this is a bit unusual — a new musical based on not one, but two tom jonses. what's new pussycat? takes the plot of the 18th century novel tom jones, and combines it with the best—known songs of sir tom jones. our entertainment correspondent colin paterson went to the birmingham rep, where it is having its world premiere. # na, na, na, na, na, na, na, na, na, na...# tom jones — not that one — singing the hits of tom jones. 18th century literary creation and 20th century welsh pop sensation merged together for a new musical, what's new pussycat? tom jones was much, much, much worse. henry fielding's tom jones was published in 1749. it told the tale of a young handsome man sleeping his way through society. the 1963 film version won best picture at the oscars... # my, my, my, delilah...# ..prompting a young welsh singer called tommy scott to change his name to tom jones. # it's not unusual to be loved by anyone.# now, more than 60 years later, the two toms finally collide in this show. how much do you channel the tom jones singer on stage, and how much tom jones from the novel? i'd say it's about 60% tom jones from the novel, 40% tom jones, the singer. love tom jones, the singer, but it's not an imitation. but obviously you've got to channel a bit of tom jones, otherwise you're not going to get through those amazing numbers. # i wanna die...# and as for how the hits fit in? well, sirtomjones, those songs are all great and they're all about love and trying to find someone. and henry fielding's novel, tom jones, is also about love and trying to find someone. so it was relatively easy. # without love, i have nothing, nothing at all.# it's perhaps understandable that not all of the cast have gone back to the original source material. tom jones the novel is more than 900 pages long. i got the abridged version and the full version, so i've been able to sort of chop and change between the two of them. but i love that obviously our version is very different and it's been moved to the 60s, while still sort of keeping the core values of the piece. five, six... pony! and helping to recreate swinging london, the choreographer arlene phillips. don't you change it. you keep it! wow, is this bringing back some memories? it certainly is. tom jones! but i love working with his music. i love choreographing to his music. it's just such a treat. how would you rate the real tom jones' dancing over the years? very interesting. i would call tom jones a great mover. and he has his own moves, his own style. he doesn't exactly do dance steps, but i could watch him all the time. and as for sir tom jones, well, he has given the show his blessing. and next tuesday, he will attend the press night. how much pressure will that be, singing the hits of tom jones in front of the man himself? i don't know. for me, i kind of get a kick out of it. i think it's going to be really fun. i'm just going to shout them at him and hope he enjoys. until you hear cries of, "you're doing it wrong from the audience"! yeah — "it's wrong, it's wrong, dom!" let's go. colin paterson, bbc news, birmingham. some proper hip action going on there. . .. . some proper hip action going on there. , . , ., there. yes, that is what i require this week- _ there. yes, that is what i require this week- my— there. yes, that is what i require this week. my professional - there. yes, that is what i require i this week. my professional partner is always talking about that. i'm trying to get things moving in all directions. the first time i have had to use those hips for quite a long time. a little bit of oil. it is officially hammered time on saturday, 6:45pm. channel tom jones. i was watching that. yeah, bit of that. shall we move on? how about this for a holiday with a difference? champing is the latest trend to take off, where you go camping in a church. and john maguire has been to see why it's so popular. there's been a church on the site in the somerset town of langport for more than 1,000 years. but, with a decreasing congregation, all saints hasn't held weekly services since the 19905. there was a huge amount of upset. it may not have been there was a regular congregation that suddenly were thrown out because the numbers were quite small. people who really didn't come to the church still saw it as something that was a precious part of their community. so to save it, in common with 350 others, it's looked after by the churches conservation trust. one way the charity raises money is through church camping, or champing, as it's known. mirren and her two young sons are the guests tonight. first priority is to explore the unique accommodation. i've seen the pillars, the golden eagle, the stained glass. it certainly makes a change from their usual holidays. we normally go to cornwall and stay in a bed—and—breakfast. that's been our idea of a getaway for the last two or three years. so this is different because we've never gone to sleep in a church before and this is amazing, it's everything i expected. staying here, i really shouldn't be saying this, is like staying inside a ghost story. ghost stories may attract some but one of the volunteers here, annie, says there's no need to be scared. i've been here with a group of young people, there were about 12 of us. you would think it is scary but it's not. it's got a really nice atmosphere. you wake up in the morning and the light is coming through the windows. it just feels really calm and relaxing. you've got this glorious space all to yourself and it's really good for hide and seek, really good. her husband bill believes bringing young people into churches is one of champing's great advantages. if i went to church as a youngster, you were dressed in your sunday best. a freer and more easy way to enjoy the space is very much the whole experience of champing for people. like all charities and indeed tourist accommodation, the pandemic has has meant a severe loss in revenue. so there's a determination to bounce back and to breathe new life into history. john maguire, bbc news, somerset. i think ithink! i think i would rather do that than a tent. �* ., . , i think i would rather do that than a tent. �* ., ., , ., i think i would rather do that than atent. �* ., ., , ., ., a tent. i've done a bit of that in the past- _ a tent. i've done a bit of that in the past. weekends _ a tent. i've done a bit of that in the past. weekends away - a tent. i've done a bit of that in! the past. weekends away when a tent. i've done a bit of that in - the past. weekends away when you stay in a church hall. not quite as elaborate as that. is it stay in a church hall. not quite as elaborate as that.— elaborate as that. is it a bit spooky? — elaborate as that. is it a bit spooky? no. _ elaborate as that. is it a bit spooky? no, because - elaborate as that. is it a bit spooky? no, because it- elaborate as that. is it a bit spooky? no, because it is. elaborate as that. is it a bit. spooky? no, because it is fun, elaborate as that. is it a bit - spooky? no, because it is fun, isn't it? are you sure?! better than a tent though. definitely. yesterday we were talking _ tent though. definitely. yesterday we were talking to _ tent though. definitely. yesterday we were talking to carol _ tent though. definitely. yesterday we were talking to carol about - tent though. definitely. yesterday we were talking to carol about the northern lights. she was talking about some of the best views in shetland. thank you to everybody who has sent in pictures. hopefully we will share those pictures in the next few days as well. because she did say that — next few days as well. because she did say that actually _ next few days as well. because she did say that actually last _ next few days as well. because she did say that actually last night - next few days as well. because she did say that actually last night was| did say that actually last night was a fantastic opportunity. the weather was absolutely perfect. innate a fantastic opportunity. the weather was absolutely perfect.— a fantastic opportunity. the weather was absolutely perfect. we can catch u n was absolutely perfect. we can catch u- with was absolutely perfect. we can catch up with carol. _ was absolutely perfect. we can catch up with carol, who _ was absolutely perfect. we can catch up with carol, who can _ was absolutely perfect. we can catch up with carol, who can tell— was absolutely perfect. we can catch up with carol, who can tell us - was absolutely perfect. we can catch up with carol, who can tell us what i up with carol, who can tell us what the weather is going to be like. it is a chilly start for some of us, especially in southern areas. it is going to be cloudier today than yesterday. and down the east coast it is also going to be chilly. temperatures will be back up tomorrow. a lot of cloud at the moment. a weak weather front will eventually come back into east anglia. it is draped across parts of north wales, the midlands, northern england, southend west scotland and northern ireland, introducing patchy rain. some sunshine across west wales and south—west england. later on it will brighten up nicely across north—west scotland and north—east things in. it will feel cold. temperatures from nine to 14 degrees. furtherwest, in sunshine we are looking at 16, maybe 17 degrees. this evening and overnight we hang on to a fair bit of cloud. some patchy light rain or drizzle affecting western coasts and hills. a new whether front crossing the north of scotland introducing some rain. some of that will be heavy, especially across the northern isles. these are the overnight lows. in rural areas temperatures will be a bit lower than you can see here. that leads us into tomorrow. we say goodbye quite early on to that band of rain. tomorrow some mixture of cloud and cloud breaks with some sunshine. a few showers in the west, more notably in the north—west of scotland and the north west of northern ireland coming in on the breeze. temperatures tomorrow not as cool along the east coast as it is going to be today. generally the range is between 12 and 17 degrees. a13—year—old boy has been honoured with a very special award after saving his dad's life by carrying out emergency cpr. 13—year—old henry saved his dad's life by carrying out emergency cpr when he collapsed right in front of him. they are both here in the studio. and we're also joined by estelle stephenson from the british heart foundation. good morning everybody. jules, particularly good to see you fit and well and healthy. it is largely thanks to henry. what happened? henry and i were running quite regularly— henry and i were running quite regularly earlier this year. we went out for— regularly earlier this year. we went out for a _ regularly earlier this year. we went out for a run — regularly earlier this year. we went out for a run on the monday evening at about— out for a run on the monday evening at about six— out for a run on the monday evening at about six o'clock. henry didn't feel like — at about six o'clock. henry didn't feel like he — at about six o'clock. henry didn't feel like he wanted to come, then he changed _ feel like he wanted to come, then he changed his — feel like he wanted to come, then he changed his mind. we normally do a walk from _ changed his mind. we normally do a walk from the house up a steep hill to the _ walk from the house up a steep hill to the top— walk from the house up a steep hill to the top where the quarries are by the rugby— to the top where the quarries are by the rugby club, and start the run from _ the rugby club, and start the run from there — the rugby club, and start the run from there. we walked up. we got to the top _ from there. we walked up. we got to the top of— from there. we walked up. we got to the top of the hill and i turned to henry— the top of the hill and i turned to henry and — the top of the hill and i turned to henry and said i didn't feel very well _ henry and said i didn't feel very well and — henry and said i didn't feel very well and i_ henry and said i didn't feel very well. and ijust collapsed. that was as far— well. and ijust collapsed. that was as far as— well. and ijust collapsed. that was as far as i_ well. and ijust collapsed. that was as far as i can probably tell you about— as far as i can probably tell you about it — as far as i can probably tell you about it. .. . as far as i can probably tell you about it. . , ., , , ., about it. that is the last thing you remember? _ about it. that is the last thing you remember? i _ about it. that is the last thing you remember? i don't _ about it. that is the last thing you remember? i don't even - about it. that is the last thing you i remember? i don't even remember that. so remember? i don't even remember that- so henry. _ remember? i don't even remember that- so henry. i— remember? i don't even remember that. so henry, i can _ remember? i don't even remember that. so henry, i can feel— remember? i don't even remember that. so henry, i can feel my - remember? i don't even remember that. so henry, i can feel my heart| that. so henry, i can feel my heart noundinn that. so henry, i can feel my heart poundingiust_ that. so henry, i can feel my heart pounding just listening _ that. so henry, i can feel my heart pounding just listening to - that. so henry, i can feel my heart pounding just listening to the - that. so henry, i can feel my heart pounding just listening to the sort| pounding just listening to the sort of drama of that story. what happened at that point? i immediately sprang into action. i wondered — immediately sprang into action. i wondered what— immediately sprang into action. i wondered what had _ immediately sprang into action. i wondered what had gone - immediately sprang into action. i wondered what had gone on- immediately sprang into action. i- wondered what had gone on because he was breathing _ wondered what had gone on because he was breathing all— wondered what had gone on because he was breathing all right _ wondered what had gone on because he was breathing all right but— wondered what had gone on because he was breathing all right but he _ wondered what had gone on because he was breathing all right but he was- was breathing all right but he was unconscious _ was breathing all right but he was unconscious i_ was breathing all right but he was unconscious. i ran— was breathing all right but he was unconscious. i ran to _ was breathing all right but he was unconscious. i ran to him. - was breathing all right but he was| unconscious. i ran to him. noticed he was _ unconscious. i ran to him. noticed he was not — unconscious. i ran to him. noticed he was not breathing. _ unconscious. i ran to him. noticed he was not breathing. i— unconscious. i ran to him. noticed he was not breathing. igot- unconscious. i ran to him. noticed he was not breathing. i got his - he was not breathing. i got his phone — he was not breathing. i got his phone out— he was not breathing. i got his phone out of— he was not breathing. i got his phone out of his _ he was not breathing. i got his phone out of his pocket - he was not breathing. i got his phone out of his pocket and ii phone out of his pocket and i dialled — phone out of his pocket and i dialled 999 _ phone out of his pocket and i dialled 999 for— phone out of his pocket and i dialled 999 for an _ phone out of his pocket and ii dialled 999 for an ambulance. phone out of his pocket and i- dialled 999 for an ambulance. an ambulance — dialled 999 for an ambulance. an ambulance then— dialled 999 for an ambulance. an ambulance then came _ dialled 999 for an ambulance. an ambulance then came and - dialled 999 for an ambulance. an ambulance then came and i- dialled 999 for an ambulance. an ambulance then came and i was i dialled 999 for an ambulance. an i ambulance then came and i was told to do— ambulance then came and i was told to do cpr~ _ ambulance then came and i was told to do cpr~ that _ ambulance then came and i was told to do cpr. that was _ ambulance then came and i was told to do cpr. that was for _ ambulance then came and i was told to do cpr. that was for about - ambulance then came and i was told to do cpr. that was for about five i to do cpr. that was for about five minutes— to do cpr. that was for about five minutes what _ to do cpr. that was for about five minutes what it _ to do cpr. that was for about five minutes what it was _ to do cpr. that was for about five minutes what it was on _ to do cpr. that was for about five minutes what it was on its - to do cpr. that was for about five minutes what it was on its way. i minutes what it was on its way. about _ minutes what it was on its way. about five _ minutes what it was on its way. about five minutes _ minutes what it was on its way. about five minutes later, - minutes what it was on its way. about five minutes later, i - minutes what it was on its way. about five minutes later, i saw| minutes what it was on its way. i about five minutes later, i saw a mann _ about five minutes later, i saw a man. a _ about five minutes later, i saw a man. a man _ about five minutes later, i saw a man. a man ran— about five minutes later, i saw a man. a man ran by. _ about five minutes later, i saw a man, a man ran by, called- about five minutes later, i saw a i man, a man ran by, called darryl. about five minutes later, i saw a - man, a man ran by, called darryl. he is a jogger _ man, a man ran by, called darryl. he is aiogger he— man, a man ran by, called darryl. he is a jogger he came _ man, a man ran by, called darryl. he is a jogger. he came to— man, a man ran by, called darryl. he is a jogger. he came to my— man, a man ran by, called darryl. he is a jogger. he came to my dad - man, a man ran by, called darryl. he is a jogger. he came to my dad and i is a jogger. he came to my dad and asked _ is a jogger. he came to my dad and asked what— is a jogger. he came to my dad and asked what he _ is a jogger. he came to my dad and asked what he could _ is a jogger. he came to my dad and asked what he could do. _ is a jogger. he came to my dad and asked what he could do. he - is a jogger. he came to my dad and asked what he could do. he didn't. asked what he could do. he didn't know— asked what he could do. he didn't know where — asked what he could do. he didn't know where a _ asked what he could do. he didn't know where a defibrillator - asked what he could do. he didn't know where a defibrillator was. i. know where a defibrillator was. i said i_ know where a defibrillator was. i said i would _ know where a defibrillator was. i said i would get— know where a defibrillator was. i said i would get it. _ know where a defibrillator was. i said i would get it. i— know where a defibrillator was. i said i would get it. i ran - know where a defibrillator was. i said i would get it. i ran off- know where a defibrillator was. i said i would get it. i ran off to i know where a defibrillator was. i| said i would get it. i ran off to go and get _ said i would get it. i ran off to go and get it — said i would get it. i ran off to go and get it— and get it. there was one of the ru . b and get it. there was one of the rugby club? _ and get it. there was one of the rugby club? yes. _ and get it. there was one of the rugby club? yes. i— and get it. there was one of the rugby club? yes. i ran _ and get it. there was one of the rugby club? yes. i ran towards i and get it. there was one of the i rugby club? yes. i ran towards the ru . b rugby club? yes. i ran towards the rugby club- — rugby club? yes. i ran towards the rugby club- i— rugby club? yes. i ran towards the rugby club. i saw— rugby club? yes. i ran towards the rugby club. i saw flashing - rugby club? yes. i ran towards the rugby club. i saw flashing blue - rugby club. i saw flashing blue lights — rugby club. i saw flashing blue lights heading _ rugby club. i saw flashing blue lights heading towards - rugby club. i saw flashing blue lights heading towards me. i rugby club. i saw flashing blue lights heading towards me. at| rugby club. i saw flashing blue - lights heading towards me. at that point _ lights heading towards me. at that point t _ lights heading towards me. at that point t was — lights heading towards me. at that point t wasiust_ lights heading towards me. at that point i wasjust so— lights heading towards me. at that point i wasjust so happy— lights heading towards me. at that point i wasjust so happy because ii point i wasjust so happy because i knew— point i wasjust so happy because i knew he _ point i wasjust so happy because i knew he was— point i wasjust so happy because i knew he was going _ point i wasjust so happy because i knew he was going to _ point i wasjust so happy because i knew he was going to be _ point i wasjust so happy because i knew he was going to be all- point i wasjust so happy because i knew he was going to be all right. i knew he was going to be all right. but not _ knew he was going to be all right. but not 100%~ _ knew he was going to be all right. but not 100%._ knew he was going to be all right. but not 100%. henry, how did you know what — but not 100%. henry, how did you know what to _ but not 100%. henry, how did you know what to do? _ but not 100%. henry, how did you know what to do? that _ but not 100%. henry, how did you know what to do? that would - but not 100%. henry, how did you| know what to do? that would have required you keeping really calm at that point? i required you keeping really calm at that noint? .. required you keeping really calm at that noint? . ., ., ., ., that point? i learnt what to do from dotmacro i learned _ that point? i learnt what to do from dotmacro i learned cpr _ that point? i learnt what to do from dotmacro i learned cpr three - that point? i learnt what to do from | dotmacro i learned cpr three times. i learnt _ dotmacro i learned cpr three times. i learnt it— dotmacro i learned cpr three times. i learnt it at— dotmacro i learned cpr three times. i learnt it at school, _ dotmacro i learned cpr three times. i learnt it at school, at _ dotmacro i learned cpr three times. i learnt it at school, at sea - dotmacro i learned cpr three times. i learnt it at school, at sea cadets i i learnt it at school, at sea cadets and scouts — i learnt it at school, at sea cadets and scouts so _ i learnt it at school, at sea cadets and scouts. so i— i learnt it at school, at sea cadets and scouts. so i have _ i learnt it at school, at sea cadets and scouts. so i have had - i learnt it at school, at sea cadets and scouts. so i have had plenty. i learnt it at school, at sea cadetsl and scouts. so i have had plenty of experience — and scouts. so i have had plenty of experience. that _ and scouts. so i have had plenty of experience. that helped _ and scouts. so i have had plenty of experience. that helped my- and scouts. so i have had plenty of experience. that helped my dad. i and scouts. so i have had plenty of. experience. that helped my dad. you didn't think experience. that helped my dad. didn't think you were going to use it, didn't think you were going to use it. did _ didn't think you were going to use it. did you? — didn't think you were going to use it. did you?— didn't think you were going to use it, did you? no. of all the lessons that ou it, did you? no. of all the lessons that you have. _ it, did you? no. of all the lessons that you have, that _ it, did you? no. of all the lessons that you have, that was _ it, did you? no. of all the lessons that you have, that was the - it, did you? no. of all the lessons that you have, that was the one. i it, did you? no. of all the lessons i that you have, that was the one. the fact that henry was through that process three times and could be cool and calm and collected, you must be the proudest dad on the planet? must be the proudest dad on the iannet? ., , , �* must be the proudest dad on the iannet? .. , , �* ., planet? undoubtedly. i'm not surnrised planet? undoubtedly. i'm not surprised he _ planet? undoubtedly. i'm not surprised he is _ planet? undoubtedly. i'm not surprised he is like _ planet? undoubtedly. i'm not surprised he is like that. - planet? undoubtedly. i'm not surprised he is like that. butl planet? undoubtedly. i'm not. surprised he is like that. but to have _ surprised he is like that. but to have your— surprised he is like that. but to have your own child save a life is unbelievable. it's something you don't _ unbelievable. it's something you don't think is going to happen, is it? the _ don't think is going to happen, is it? the way— don't think is going to happen, is it? the way he remained calm throughout it. the ambit as have said how— throughout it. the ambit as have said how calm he was unhelpful to them _ said how calm he was unhelpful to them as— said how calm he was unhelpful to them as well after he had finished what he _ them as well after he had finished what he was doing. he then helped them _ what he was doing. he then helped them. unbelievable.— them. unbelievable. estelle, if we can 'ust them. unbelievable. estelle, if we can just bring _ them. unbelievable. estelle, if we can just bring you _ them. unbelievable. estelle, if we can just bring you in _ them. unbelievable. estelle, if we canjust bring you in here, - them. unbelievable. estelle, if we canjust bring you in here, how- canjust bring you in here, how important is it that people in a situation like this, how important is that they keep calm and know what to do? ~ , .. , to do? well, henry did exactly the rinht thin to do? well, henry did exactly the right thing at _ to do? well, henry did exactly the right thing at the _ to do? well, henry did exactly the right thing at the right _ to do? well, henry did exactly the right thing at the right time. - to do? well, henry did exactly the right thing at the right time. he i right thing at the right time. he put cpr— right thing at the right time. he put cpr skills to use to save his dad's _ put cpr skills to use to save his dad's life — put cpr skills to use to save his dad's life. when someone has a cardiac— dad's life. when someone has a cardiac arrest every minute they don't _ cardiac arrest every minute they don't have — cardiac arrest every minute they don't have cpr defibrillation decreases their chances of survival. the most _ decreases their chances of survival. the most important thing to know is that you _ the most important thing to know is that you must call 999, give immediate cpr. if someone is nearby net immediate cpr. if someone is nearby get them _ immediate cpr. if someone is nearby get them to— immediate cpr. if someone is nearby get them to grab a defibrillator and keep going until the ambulance arrives — keep going until the ambulance arrives. be like henry, essentially. yes _ arrives. be like henry, essentially. yes we— arrives. be like henry, essentially. yes we all— arrives. be like henry, essentially. yes. we all need a bit of that. estelle, what is the best place kamada's the best way for people to learn cpr, —— what is the best place for people to learn cpr? less learn cpr, -- what is the best place for people to learn cpr?— for people to learn cpr? less than one in ten people _ for people to learn cpr? less than one in ten people survive - for people to learn cpr? less than one in ten people survive becausel one in ten people survive because people _ one in ten people survive because people don't have the skills or the confidence to give cpr when they need _ confidence to give cpr when they need to — confidence to give cpr when they need to. with 80% of these cardiac arrests— need to. with 80% of these cardiac arrests happening at home, you are more _ arrests happening at home, you are more likely— arrests happening at home, you are more likely to need to give cpr to somebody— more likely to need to give cpr to somebody you know. learn it for now. there _ somebody you know. learn it for now. there are _ somebody you know. learn it for now. there are some easy things you can do. there are some easy things you can do you _ there are some easy things you can do you can — there are some easy things you can do. you can go to the british heart foundation— do. you can go to the british heart foundation website. we have fantastic— foundation website. we have fantastic resources. you can take part in— fantastic resources. you can take part in hard — fantastic resources. you can take part in hard day on saturday. it is led by— part in hard day on saturday. it is led by the — part in hard day on saturday. it is led by the resuscitation council. it is a call— led by the resuscitation council. it is a call for— led by the resuscitation council. it is a call for everybody to learn cpr~ — is a call for everybody to learn cpr. great resources online. if you have _ cpr. great resources online. if you have a _ cpr. great resources online. if you have a defibrillator, please register— have a defibrillator, please register on the circuit. it means that people like henry, when they call 999. — that people like henry, when they call 999, will get directed to the nearest — call 999, will get directed to the nearest defibrillator quicker. that is a really good — nearest defibrillator quicker. t'isgit is a really good idea as well. jules, how are you now? i’m is a really good idea as well. jules, how are you now? i'm fine now. obviously _ jules, how are you now? i'm fine now. obviously i _ jules, how are you now? i'm fine now. obviously i have _ jules, how are you now? i'm fine now. obviously i have a - now. obviously i have a defibrillator for myself now. i have that fitted — defibrillator for myself now. i have that fitted as a result of what is going _ that fitted as a result of what is going on — that fitted as a result of what is going on. i'm fine, back to normal. henry. _ going on. i'm fine, back to normal. henry. what— going on. i'm fine, back to normal. henry, what are your family and friends think about what you did? they're amazed. they really are. i've had — they're amazed. they really are. i've had dotmacro _ they're amazed. they really are. i've had dotmacro they— they're amazed. they really are. i've had dotmacro they can't - they're amazed. they really are. i i've had dotmacro they can't really put into _ i've had dotmacro they can't really put into words _ i've had dotmacro they can't really put into words how _ i've had dotmacro they can't really put into words how proud - i've had dotmacro they can't really put into words how proud they- i've had dotmacro they can't really put into words how proud they are i i've had dotmacro they can't really. put into words how proud they are of me. put into words how proud they are of me i_ put into words how proud they are of me i really— put into words how proud they are of me i reallyam — put into words how proud they are of me. i really am thankful. _ put into words how proud they are of me. i really am thankful. lilie- put into words how proud they are of me. i really am thankful.— me. i really am thankful. we are anoin to me. i really am thankful. we are going to join _ me. i really am thankful. we are going to join a — me. i really am thankful. we are going to join a long _ me. i really am thankful. we are going to join a long list - me. i really am thankful. we are going to join a long list of- me. i really am thankful. we are | going to join a long list of people you think you are absolutely amazing. well done. it's an amazing thing to do. as father and son you have a strong bond. it's even stronger now.— have a strong bond. it's even stronger now. have a strong bond. it's even stronner now. . , . stronger now. yeah, very much so. great to meet _ stronger now. yeah, very much so. great to meet you _ stronger now. yeah, very much so. great to meet you both. _ stronger now. yeah, very much so. great to meet you both. henry, - stronger now. yeah, very much so. i great to meet you both. henry, what an inspiration. well done. thank you. an inspiration. well done. thank ou. �* . an inspiration. well done. thank ou. . , ., , ., an inspiration. well done. thank ou. , ., ., ., ., you. and estelle. now you have to go to school. well _ you. and estelle. now you have to go to school. well done _ you. and estelle. now you have to go to school. well done on _ you. and estelle. now you have to go to school. well done on the _ you. and estelle. now you have to go to school. well done on the award. i you're watching bbc breakfast. it's 8:59. hii hi i loved that. my this is bbc news. i'm lukwesa burak with the latest headlines. one of the worst public health failures ever — a report by mps condemns the response to the early stages of the covid pandemic. —— the -- the uk —— the uk response. -- the uk response. early decisions, in particular— -- the uk response. early decisions, in particular our— -- the uk response. early decisions, in particular our slowness _ -- the uk response. early decisions, in particular our slowness to - -- the uk response. early decisions, in particular our slowness to lock - in particular our slowness to lock down, had consequences, and we have to confronted the need to learn lessons from that. there was praise for the vaccine roll—out, described as one of the most effective initiatives in british scienctific history. we want to know what you think. how would you rate the government's 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