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shortages, borisjohnson has told his conservative party conference that britain has to rely less on foreign workers and raise wages. we are foreign workers and raise wages. - are going to deal with the biggest underlying issues of our economy and society. the problem is that no government has had the guts to tackle before. in london, the high court has found the ruler of dubai, sheikh mohammed, interfered with british justice by illegally hacking the mobile phone of his ex—wife during their divorce custody battle. according to the court, princess haya ofjordan�*s legal and security team were also targeted. sheikh mohammed has denied involvement. let's begin with this report from our security correspondent frank gardner. together no longer. dubai's ruler, sheikh mohammed al maktoum, and his ex—wife, jordan's princess haya. now fighting a custody battle in high court. it has been revealed today that sheikh mohammed ordered illegal phone hacking during a crucial phase of the hearings. princess haya's phone was hacked. so were those of her personal assistant, her security and legal team. and even that of baroness shackleton — her barrister and a member of the house of lords. princess haya, in white, fled dubai two years ago after learning of her husband's abduction and mistreatment of two of his daughters. she applied for court orders to prevent her children from being returned to dubai. the judgment published here today reveal the extraordinary lengths that one middle eastern ruler and a close ally of britain has gone to to exercise total control over the women in his family. the measures have been described as an abuse of power and a serial breach of criminal law here in britain. the court heard how agents of the dubai ruler used intrusive spyware called pegasus, sold by israel's nso group to the united arab emirates, to infect the mobile phones of the sheikh's opposing legal team. what is remarkable about this case is that it shows starkly that autocrats will take this technology, which is allegedly for fighting crime and terror, and use it to do exactly what you would expect. they target people who they find to be problematic. and of course it is not a surprise that yet again a partner is targeted with this kind of spyware. mobile phone hacking, the court heard, was also used to track and abduct sheikha latifa, one of sheikh mohammed's daughters, when she tried unsuccessfully to flee dubai by boat in 2018. i am making this video because it could be the last video i make. in this smuggled the video, she said she was imprisoned in a villa. recent photographs posted online appear to show her at liberty. but human rights campaigners still question whether she is free. and sheikh mohammed's current custody battle with princess haya, the court heard he had tried to buy a uk property so close to her house that she felt intimidated. sheikh mohammed denies all the allegations. a billionaire racehorse owner, he remains a giant figure in the equestrian world. but uk law has been broken here and this case poses extremely awkward questions about one of britain's closest friends in the middle east. frank gardner, bbc news. we will speak to frank any moment. let's talk a little further about pegasus spyware. it gives hackers complete access to all the data on a target's phone. they are able to track the location of the individual, read text messages and e—mails, as well as eavesdrop on their phone calls. hackers can also access contactless, passwords, calendar dates and photographs. they can even activate a phone without the owner's knowledge, record activity, and take screenshots. similar spyware is allegedly used by saudi government agents against dissidents living abroad, including associates of the murdered saudi journalist. frank gardner is live with is year own outside source. frank, apart from the reputational damage to sheikh mohammed, what legal consequences might there be? first of all, i should say that very soon after the findings were made public, sheikh mohammed issued a statement through one of his representatives continuing to deny these allegations, saying the findings were unfair and that he couldn't comment on the security and intelligence apparatus of the uae state, which it had nothing to do with this particular case, he said, which was a private family matter. to answer your question more fully, i don't think we are going to see british police travelling to dubai to investigate this, and certainly no one is going to put handcuffs on sheikh mohammed. this is an embarrassment for him, embarrassment i think for the british foreign office, which would rather not have things like this surfacing when it wants to have good relations with the uae and other gulf states. remember that britain has left the european union, it needs all the friends it can get. sheikh mohammed is a massive investor in the uk. but this paints him and his way of doing things in a very bad light. this pegasus software is really powerful stuff. it is the cyber equivalent of plutonium to ten. it is dangerous and what it can do. in the wrong hands. it is supposed to be, according to the ns0 who produce it, theissueis according to the ns0 who produce it, the issue is market leaders, it is supposed to be for stopping criminals and terrorists. —— the israelis are market leaders. it seems to be in breach of british law. ., ., , ., , ., law. how of the israelis event how the technology _ law. how of the israelis event how the technology is _ law. how of the israelis event how the technology is used? _ law. how of the israelis event how the technology is used? the - law. how of the israelis event how| the technology is used? the tip-off for all of this _ the technology is used? the tip-off for all of this was _ the technology is used? the tip-off for all of this was given _ the technology is used? the tip-off for all of this was given by - the technology is used? the tip-off for all of this was given by the - for all of this was given by the wife of britain's former prime minister tony blair. on the 5th of august last year, she was phoned by a senior nso management official, this is on the court findings, the judgment that is here, and they warned her, they tipped off because she is a human rights adviser to them. they said, we think this has been misused, and we want you to warn baroness shackleton, who is a british peer, and the barrister representing princess haya in this case. she passed on this morning, thatis case. she passed on this morning, that is how it got alerted. and they then called in a technical expert and a second opinion, who examined these phones. it was very hard initially to detect this. pegasus is hard to detect. you are i would not know if we had it on our phones. it was only after extensive forensic examination of the phone is that the traces of this pegasus software or spyware was found. and that is what has been stood up by the court. thank you for taking us through it. frank gardner, the bbc�*s security correspondent. next to france because survivors of the concert hall attack in paris have given testimony in court for the first time. it was the deadliest terror attack in 2015. zoe alexander's brother was one of the 90 people who died at the concert. i brother was one of the 90 people who died at the concert.— died at the concert. i want to tell --eole died at the concert. i want to tell people who _ died at the concert. i want to tell people who nick _ died at the concert. i want to tell people who nick was _ died at the concert. i want to tell people who nick was as - died at the concert. i want to tell people who nick was as a - died at the concert. i want to tell| people who nick was as a person. died at the concert. i want to tell - people who nick was as a person. so that he does not always have to live with the identity of a victim. i want to tell them the great achievements he made in life. and to speakfor him achievements he made in life. and to speak for him when achievements he made in life. and to speakfor him when he is no longer here to speak for himself. if he was alive and testifying, i would be by his side, so i am here for him. the attacks in — his side, so i am here for him. the attacks in 2015 _ his side, so i am here for him. the attacks in 2015 where the deadliest everin attacks in 2015 where the deadliest ever in peacetime france. in the worst of the attacks, three heavily armed gunmen stormed the concert hall during a performance by the band eagles of death metal. , mackerel they shot and killed 90 people and seriously injured many more. 300 survivors will take the stand. the trial of 20 people accused of being involved started a month ago. it is heard from survivors of the attacks on the french national stadium and restaurants elsewhere in paris. it is unusual to hear from this many people affected by a particular attack, but that is what is happening in this case. here is one local reporter. michael in france, the difference of the united states or united kingdom or the difference of the united states or united kingdom— or united kingdom or most of the countries in _ or united kingdom or most of the countries in the _ or united kingdom or most of the countries in the world, _ or united kingdom or most of the countries in the world, victims . or united kingdom or most of the countries in the world, victims of| countries in the world, victims of the attacks, survivors and families of people killed, can be a part in the trial, can have a lawyer, testify, ask questions to the accused. they are involved, actually, in the trial itself, not only as witnesses, but as an actor. hugh schofield was in court listening to the testimony and sent this update. dell are macro absolutely harrowing testimony today. on this birthday that absolutely harrowing testimony today. on this birthday- absolutely harrowing testimony today. on this birthday that we have had witnessed _ today. on this birthday that we have had witnessed survivors _ today. on this birthday that we have had witnessed survivors of _ today. on this birthday that we have had witnessed survivors of the - had witnessed survivors of the concert itself, many in tears, many shaking, many scratching at their limbs as they give their accounts because it is so emotional for them, particularly to be doing it not before friends or family, not before a doctor, but before the accused, people they hold responsible for what happened. in the concert hall, the story is pretty much the same from everyone's point of view. one example, a man who in the middle of the concert decided to go out to have a cigarette, and as he goes into words the entrance hall or entrance area, he sees three silhouettes, as he calls them, with fire spitting out of the guns. like everyone else, he plunges to the ground and then spends the next two hours in this terrible state, wishing he could crawl into the earth in order to hide. knowing that around him there are bodies, people dying. the only time he moves his head, he says, is when there is an explosion. he looks up and it is the first suicide bomber who has blown himself up. it is terrible to relate, but it is the testament of so many people, he sees bits of flesh flying through the air, bits of flesh sliding down the wall. there is the testimony of a women, who came to see her ex—boyfriend, nick alexander, who were selling t—shirts in the for you. she wanted to be with him even though they had separated, they were still very close. they thought they had survived the initial shooting, but then, at some point, someone near them shouted an insult at the terrorists and they turned round and shotin terrorists and they turned round and shot in their direction. at that point, she was shot in the thigh, nick was shot in the stomach and bled to death in her arms. another man remembered that... there is not anyone who moves, we will kill you. someone's phone rang, they turned and shot her. his phone started vibrating and he had to smother it with his body to stop it making noise. it has been like that over and over again. noise. it has been like that over and overagain. it noise. it has been like that over and over again. it is going to feel repetitive and claustrophobic quite soon, but for every one of these people, it is the same story but told from a slightly different angle, but with the same utter horror at the root of it all. find angle, but with the same utter horror at the root of it all. and we will continue _ horror at the root of it all. and we will continue to _ horror at the root of it all. and we will continue to bring _ horror at the root of it all. and we will continue to bring you - horror at the root of it all. and we will continue to bring you the - will continue to bring you the testimony of those who were at the concert all over the coming days. here in the uk, prime minister boris johnson has closed the conservative party's johnson has closed the conservative pa rty�*s conference johnson has closed the conservative party's conference in manchester. it was his first in—person speech to delegates since he won the general election back in 2019. he spoke of building a high wage economy with high productivity and lower taxes. and she reiterated that he is committed to his levelling up agenda. the bbc puzzler... laura kuenssberg has this report. they waited from early. beyond worth it for the faithful top the first self—described super fan it there before dawn. six. self-described super fan it there before dawn.— self-described super fan it there before dawn. ,, ~ ~ before dawn. six o'clock. and then this lad . before dawn. six o'clock. and then this lady- one _ before dawn. six o'clock. and then this lady. one cabinet _ before dawn. six o'clock. and then this lady. one cabinet minister - before dawn. six o'clock. and then | this lady. one cabinet minister said it is all about _ this lady. one cabinet minister said it is all about him. _ this lady. one cabinet minister said it is all about him. five _ this lady. one cabinet minister said it is all about him. five and - this lady. one cabinet minister said it is all about him. five and a - this lady. one cabinet minister said it is all about him. five and a half l it is all about him. five and a half hours later, the moment boris johnson has been waiting for for more than two years. you'll macro isn't it amazing to be back here in person? the first time conservatives have been cheek byjowl since beating jeremy corbyn. we have been cheek by jowl since beating jeremy corbyn. we finally sent that communist _ beating jeremy corbyn. we finally sent that communist cosmonaut i beating jeremy corbyn. we finally i sent that communist cosmonaut into orbit where he belongs. jokes alen , orbit where he belongs. jokes aplenty. he — orbit where he belongs. jokes aplenty, he used _ orbit where he belongs. jokes aplenty, he used the - orbit where he belongs. jokes aplenty, he used the spotlight to entertain as much as set out his ambition — to change the country in ways he claims his predecessors were not brave enough to do. yellow macro after decades of drift endeavour, this reforming government, this candid government, this government that got brexit done, that is getting the covid vaccine roll—out done, is going to get social care done, is going to get social care done, and we're going to deal with the biggest underlying issues of our economy and society. the problem is that no government has had the guts to tackle before. there are some tory discomfort about what the party's tory discomfort about what the pa rty�*s front row tory discomfort about what the party's front row is doing. as families and firms face different pressures this autumn. it boris johnson is promising a new way for the country to do business, using the country to do business, using the moment to remake an old argument. the moment to remake an old argument-— the moment to remake an old aruument. . , , ., _, ., argument. the answer is to control immigration. _ argument. the answer is to control immigration. to — argument. the answer is to control immigration, to allow— argument. the answer is to control immigration, to allow people - argument. the answer is to control immigration, to allow people of. immigration, to allow people of talent _ immigration, to allow people of talent to— immigration, to allow people of talent to come to this country, but not to— talent to come to this country, but not to use — talent to come to this country, but not to use immigration as an excuse for failure _ not to use immigration as an excuse for failure to — not to use immigration as an excuse for failure to invest in people, in skills. _ for failure to invest in people, in skills. and — for failure to invest in people, in skills, and in the equipment, the facilities, — skills, and in the equipment, the facilities, the machinery.- facilities, the machinery. taxing, borrowina facilities, the machinery. taxing, borrowing and — facilities, the machinery. taxing, borrowing and spending - facilities, the machinery. taxing, borrowing and spending right - facilities, the machinery. taxing, | borrowing and spending right now facilities, the machinery. taxing, - borrowing and spending right now are high. but he is trying to cast himself as an economic radical, sewing memories of mrs thatcher. she would have wagged her finger and said. _ would have wagged her finger and said, more borrowing now isjust higher— said, more borrowing now isjust higher interest rates and even higher— higher interest rates and even higher taxes later. he higher interest rates and even higher taxes later.— higher interest rates and even higher taxes later. he was cheered for low taxes _ higher taxes later. he was cheered for low taxes one _ higher taxes later. he was cheered for low taxes one day, _ higher taxes later. he was cheered for low taxes one day, but - higher taxes later. he was cheered for low taxes one day, but the - for low taxes one day, but the mission for now, levelling up, to make life just as good in every post code, with extra cash for new science teachers in less well off areas to help. but then he reminded his home crowd why his personal and the public�*s experience means more cash for the nhs. the the public's experience means more cash for the nhs.— the public's experience means more cash for the nhs. the nhs pulled my chestnuts out — cash for the nhs. the nhs pulled my chestnuts out of _ cash for the nhs. the nhs pulled my chestnuts out of that _ cash for the nhs. the nhs pulled my chestnuts out of that pit _ cash for the nhs. the nhs pulled my chestnuts out of that pit and - cash for the nhs. the nhs pulled my chestnuts out of that pit and front - chestnuts out of that pit and front line care — chestnuts out of that pit and front line care workers battled against a new disease, selflessly, risking their— new disease, selflessly, risking their lives, sacrificing their lives _ their lives, sacrificing their lives. and it is right for this party— lives. and it is right for this party that— lives. and it is right for this party that has looked after the nhs for most _ party that has looked after the nhs for most of its history should be the one — for most of its history should be the one to — for most of its history should be the one to rise to the challenge. there _ the one to rise to the challenge. there were _ the one to rise to the challenge. there were pleasers for this crowd, too, a crackdown on protesters. i say there are a confounded basis — but knew_ say there are a confounded basis — but knew since you are blocking ambulances, stopping people going about— ambulances, stopping people going about their daily lives. pity patel is taking — about their daily lives. pity patel is taking you hours to insulate them snugly— is taking you hours to insulate them snugly in_ is taking you hours to insulate them snugly in prison where they belong. for all— snugly in prison where they belong. for all of— snugly in prison where they belong. for all of us, to reassess how we see ourselves. 50 for all of us, to reassess how we see ourselves-— for all of us, to reassess how we see ourselves. so we conservatives will defend — see ourselves. so we conservatives will defend our _ see ourselves. so we conservatives will defend our history _ see ourselves. so we conservatives will defend our history and - see ourselves. so we conservatives will defend our history and cultural| will defend our history and cultural inheritance, not because we are proudm — inheritance, not because we are proud... not because we are proud of everything. _ proud... not because we are proud of everything, but because trying to edit it _ everything, but because trying to edit it now— everything, but because trying to edit it now is as dishonest as a celebrity— edit it now is as dishonest as a celebrity trying furtively to change his entry— celebrity trying furtively to change his entry in wikipedia. it is a betrayal— his entry in wikipedia. it is a betrayal of our children's education.— betrayal of our children's education. ., education. boris johnson might have waited a long _ education. boris johnson might have waited a long time _ education. boris johnson might have waited a long time to _ education. boris johnson might have waited a long time to give _ education. boris johnson might have waited a long time to give the - waited a long time to give the speech, but he seemed any rush to make it. ~ ., ., _, , speech, but he seemed any rush to make it. ~ ., ., , ., , make it. wrote in a country that is roud to make it. wrote in a country that is proud to be _ make it. wrote in a country that is proud to be a _ make it. wrote in a country that is proud to be a trailblazer, - make it. wrote in a country that is proud to be a trailblazer, to - make it. wrote in a country that is proud to be a trailblazer, to judge | proud to be a trailblazer, tojudge people _ proud to be a trailblazer, tojudge people not by where they come from but by _ people not by where they come from but by their— people not by where they come from but by their spirit and what is inside — but by their spirit and what is inside them. that is the spirit that is the _ inside them. that is the spirit that is the same — inside them. that is the spirit that is the same across this country in every— is the same across this country in every town— is the same across this country in every town and village and city that can be _ every town and village and city that can be found in the hearts and minds of kids— can be found in the hearts and minds of kids growing up everywhere. and that is— of kids growing up everywhere. and that is the _ of kids growing up everywhere. and that is the spirit we are going to unleash — that is the spirit we are going to unleash. his that is the spirit we are going to unleash. , �* , . ., unleash. his wife's verdict... you were really _ unleash. his wife's verdict... you were really good. _ unleash. his wife's verdict... you were really good. the _ unleash. his wife's verdict... you were really good. the ultimate i were really good. the ultimate judgment, of course, is yours. shifter judgment, of course, is yours. after the agonies — judgment, of course, is yours. after the agonies of _ judgment, of course, is yours. after the agonies of brexit, _ judgment, of course, is yours. after the agonies of brexit, borisjohnson wanted _ the agonies of brexit, borisjohnson wanted to— the agonies of brexit, borisjohnson wanted to use this week to turn to what _ wanted to use this week to turn to what is _ wanted to use this week to turn to what is next. wanted to use this week to turn to what is next-— what is next. there could be hard times ahead. _ what is next. there could be hard times ahead, but _ what is next. there could be hard times ahead, but his _ what is next. there could be hard times ahead, but his political- times ahead, but his political dominance year is unchallenged. his party cast in his image now. his party cast in his image now. his party believes it is marching to a fifth term in office. a leader in command... fifth term in office. a leader in command. . ._ very| command... top drawer. very positive- _ command... top drawer. very positive. never _ command... top drawer. very positive. never short - command... top drawer. very positive. never short on - command... top drawer. very- positive. never short on ambition. he can beat _ positive. never short on ambition. he can beat this _ positive. never short on ambition. he can beat this country _ positive. never short on ambition. he can beat this country for- positive. never short on ambition. he can beat this country for 20 - he can beat this country for 20 years — he can beat this country for 20 ears. �* ., , he can beat this country for 20 ears. �* . , .. , he can beat this country for 20 ears. �* years. but as the cabinet cast her back for westminster, _ years. but as the cabinet cast her back for westminster, they - years. but as the cabinet cast her back for westminster, they are i back for westminster, they are speeding towards a country's problems. optimism here is one thing, reality another. the main political dangers weight at journey�*s end. laura kuenssberg, bbc news, manchester. next the night, let's turn to ukraine where leaders have gathered to mark 80 years since the atrocity of one of the worst massacres of the holocaust. first of all, let's hear from the german president. translation macro the from the german president. translation macro— from the german president. translation macro , , , translation macro the blind spots in our memory — translation macro the blind spots in our memory need _ translation macro the blind spots in our memory need to _ translation macro the blind spots in our memory need to be _ translation macro the blind spots in our memory need to be eliminated | translation macro the blind spots in i our memory need to be eliminated and we must have a common interest with the ukrainians in sharpening our memory. the ukrainians in sharpening our memo . ., , ., ., the ukrainians in sharpening our memo . ., ., ., [1/1 :::::: memory. over two days, around 33,000 dues-word-mack— memory. over two days, around 33,000 dues-word-mack were _ memory. over two days, around 33,000 dues-word-mack were murdered - memory. over two days, around 33,000 dues-word-mack were murdered in - memory. over two days, around 33,000 dues-word-mack were murdered in the l dues—word—mack were murdered in the capital of ukraine, which was then part of the soviet union. it is known because it is named after the ravine where it took place. these are a picture of the body is being covered by sand. this is the account of one ukrainian historian. yellow macro during two days, they killed 34,000 macro during two days, they killed 3a,000 people are macro during two days, they killed 34,000 peopl— 34,000 people are not using any machines. _ 34,000 people are not using any machines, not _ 34,000 people are not using any machines, not using _ 34,000 people are not using any machines, not using any - 34,000 people are not using any - machines, not using any automatics, not using _ machines, not using any automatics, not using the — machines, not using any automatics, not using the gas chambers, they simply— not using the gas chambers, they simply killed by bullets. and not using the gas chambers, they simply killed by bullets.— simply killed by bullets. and this the testimony — simply killed by bullets. and this the testimony from _ simply killed by bullets. and this the testimony from one - simply killed by bullets. and this the testimony from one nazi - simply killed by bullets. and this - the testimony from one nazi soldier, which of course is deeply unsettling, of his involvement. he said... one of the survivors was just a toddler at the time of the massacre. she is alive because of the last moment her mother gave her away. she spoke to the bbc last week. thea;r moment her mother gave her away. she spoke to the bbc last week.— spoke to the bbc last week. they did not no the spoke to the bbc last week. they did not go they would — spoke to the bbc last week. they did not go they would go _ spoke to the bbc last week. they did not go they would go to _ spoke to the bbc last week. they did not go they would go to babyn - spoke to the bbc last week. they did not go they would go to babyn yar. l not go they would go to babyn yar. they were — not go they would go to babyn yar. they were told they were going to germany — they were told they were going to germany. my mother felt that something was wrong, so she handed me to _ something was wrong, so she handed me to a _ something was wrong, so she handed me to a woman, a stranger, when a policeman— me to a woman, a stranger, when a policeman looked away. that was how i policeman looked away. that was how i -ot policeman looked away. that was how i got home _ policeman looked away. that was how i got home. but without my mother. on wednesday, the ceremony was held to commemorate the victims. this is the israel lane and ukrainian presidents paying their respects. for a long time after world war ii, the soviet union did not mark this massacre. in fact, the site was filled in and turned into a park. it was only last year that a research team was able to pinpoint the exact place where the massacre took place. they say it has now been built over by this apartment block. over the last 30 years, there has been a push to raise awareness of what happened. there are no plans to build the world's biggest holocaust memorial complex in the area. this is the chair of the babyn yar holocaust memorial centre.— chair of the babyn yar holocaust memorial centre. babyn yar remains the bi est memorial centre. babyn yar remains the biggest mass _ memorial centre. babyn yar remains the biggest mass grave _ memorial centre. babyn yar remains the biggest mass grave of— memorial centre. babyn yar remains the biggest mass grave of the - the biggest mass grave of the holocaust. but at the same time, babyn yar is the symbol of the efforts of soviet communist regime to destroy the memory about holocaust. so now we are trying to do no less than to turn this place into a symbol of destroying the memory of the holocaust into the biggest holocaust museum and centre and learning center about holocaust. they are also increasing efforts to hold people accountable for what happened. ukraine's holocaust memorial centre is now identified and named hundred and 59 nazis who were involved. here is one of its researchers on who the perpetrators were. ,, ., y researchers on who the perpetrators were, , ,., researchers on who the perpetrators were. , i. ,., were. somewhere very young, some were. somewhere very young, some were 47. i think _ were. somewhere very young, some were 47. i think for _ were. somewhere very young, some were 47. i think for any _ were. somewhere very young, some were 47. i think for any killer, - were. somewhere very young, some were 47. i think for any killer, to - were 47. i think for any killer, to be a _ were 47. i think for any killer, to be a mass — were 47. i think for any killer, to be a mass killer, it is a social prornotioh _ be a mass killer, it is a social promotion. do not forget that nearly nobody— promotion. do not forget that nearly nobody has — promotion. do not forget that nearly nobody has beenjudged among all these _ nobody has beenjudged among all these killers because we estimate that there will be around 2000 germans — that there will be around 2000 germans present in set three. only six germans — germans present in set three. only six germans have beenjudged guilty. five 55— six germans have beenjudged guilty. five 55 and _ six germans have beenjudged guilty. five ss and a policeman. all the others _ five ss and a policeman. all the others went back home to germany, doing _ others went back home to germany, doing nothing after participating in the killing of 33,000 human beings. let the killing of 33,000 human beings. let speak— the killing of 33,000 human beings. let speak to the bbc correspondent in kiev. as the government in support of this idea for a new holocaust memorial in the area? sign a code that is the message we are getting from ukraine's president. he: is ukraine's first jewish getting from ukraine's president. he: is ukraine's firstjewish president, so he has been working quite hard to get this proposal for so he has been working quite hard to get this proposalfor a new museum, a memorial off the ground. it is not without its critics. there are some people who are pretty upset that some of the money seems to be coming from people who are connected to russia. it is by no means... there is by no means a consensus about how it should be done, and indeed when it should be done, and indeed when it should be done. but certainly, in his speech this evening, a very emotional speech, his speech this evening, a very emotionalspeech, he his speech this evening, a very emotional speech, he certainly seemed pretty confident that after all these years, 80 years on, they would finally be some fitting museum, some fitting memorial to the awful things that happened in babyn yar. ., , ~' ., awful things that happened in babyn yar. ., , ~ ., ., awful things that happened in babyn yar. ., ., , awful things that happened in babyn yar. ., , 4' ., . , , yar. how widely known about is this massacre in — yar. how widely known about is this massacre in ukraine? _ yar. how widely known about is this massacre in ukraine? is— yar. how widely known about is this massacre in ukraine? is it _ massacre in ukraine? is it referenced in schools? is it referenced in schools? is it referenced in schools? is it referenced in political discussions? things have changed a lot over the last couple of decades. as you mentioned before in your introduction, during the soviet time, when the soviet union controlled ukraine, talk of babyn yar and visiting the site of babyn yar and visiting the site of babyn yar was pretty much impossible because of the way the soviet union, the soviet ideology viewed what had happened in the second world war was that it was basically a soviet tragedy, soviet people, they did not want focus on particularly aimed massacre ofjewish people. that has changed over the last 20, 30 years with ukraine's independence. just last week, all ukrainian schools had a lesson dedicated to what happened at ten mag three. after a long period where there was no discussion, i spoke to people who said it was basically taboo to talk about it, ukraine has in recent years come to terms with it and are talking about it a lot more. in terms of the area itself, it looks like it is quite difficult to mark this massacre in the precise place where it happened because of the construction that has happened. the area has construction that has happened. tue: area has completely construction that has happened. tts: area has completely changed. construction that has happened. tt2 area has completely changed. in the 19505, area has completely changed. in the 1950s, the kiev authorities filled in the ravine where these nearly 34,000 jewish people were shot and buried, with industrial waste. the area was basically flattened, this is now a quite well looked after park. as you hinted at, the actual key ravine, the spot where the shooting took place, that is across a busy road, and in fact there is an apartment block which is in the process of being completed. that is, according to researchers, right on the spot where some of the worst killings took place. there appears no prospect of that being stopped, they have the right permissions. the focus is instead very much on trying to come to some sort of consensus and agreement on what they should do with the rest of this now very well looked after park area, where the museum should go, and where the necessary memorial should be built. thank you very much. in the next half of outside source, we are going to talk about facebook. it has been in use for a range of reasons. there was that close to six hour outage which would have disrupted that much of your communications with people because it took out facebook, instagram and whatsapp. that was perhaps a short time crisis four facebook. a longer term issue for the company is the situation of how to regulate what happens on its platform. through the week on outside source, we have been covering one whistle—blower in particular who says that facebook is aware of research, its own research, which suggest that instagram usage can be damaging to the mental health of some girls, in particular. facebook has now pushed back against some of the testimony we heard from that whistle—blower in congress. we have a detailed statement from mark zuckerberg. we are going to be looking through what he said, but also the fact that it seems that most people, including mark zuckerberg, agree that facebook needs to be regulated. the question that follows is, how will that work? we will talk with an expert on facebook about what the politicians may suggest. that is coming up in the next half an hour. hello there. as we finally get through our first full week of october, we will have seen all flavours of autumn. we had rain and wind at the beginning of the week, today, we have seen some sunshine, and over the next couple of days, we are going to see some unseasonable warmth. temperatures at this time of year should be around the mid—teens for the first week of october, but as we head towards friday, we could see temperatures up as high as 20—21 celsius, 70 fahrenheit. and it will feel pleasant particularly if you get some sunshine. we've seen some sunshine today, but throughout the afternoon, the cloud has gathered out into the west. it's a weather front that's going to bring some rain into northern ireland and western scotland through the night, but more noticeably, it brings with it this south—westerly wind direction, a warm source, the air coming all the way up from the tropics, and that is going to bring some unseasonable warmth as we go through the week. in fact, it will bring a mild night, quite a lot of cloud around, maybe a little spot or two of drizzle with the most persistent rain into northern ireland and western scotland. temperatures here will hold up widely into mid—teens, but under clearer skies across east anglia, maybe into single figures. but we will start off the day on a rather cloudy, grey note. still that drizzle out to west wales, and still the rain quite persistent through western scotland and northern ireland, but where the cloud will break up and the sunshine comes through, those temperatures are likely to climb, as i say, up to highs of 27 celsius, that's 68 fahrenheit by the middle of thursday afternoon. and despite the rain, even a relatively mild story across scotland as well. first thing on friday, we could have an issue with some fog, some of it dence in places across central and southern england. that will take it's time to lift. it will do so, and some sunny spells continue to come through. that weather front still a nuisance, still sitting into northern ireland and western scotland. highest values perhaps on friday of 21 celsius somewhere across east wales, maybe across the north of england or the midlands. that is 70 fahrenheit. now, as we move into the start of the weekend, our weather front looks likely to start to slip out of scotland into the north of england. this will be the dividing line between this warm, moist air down to the south, still with some sunny spells coming through, but behind it, we will start to see the noticable difference in the feel of the weather gradually as those temperatures ease away and the wind direction swings round to a northwesterly. take care. i'm ross atkins with outside source. the high court in london has found the ruler of dubai secretly or did his ex—wife's phone to be hacked. he interfered with british justice by extracting information linked to the legal case over his divorce. the princess as being spied on made her feel hunted and hunted. survivor is on the attack on the concept venue in paris nearly six years ago have told the courts how they pretended told the courts how they pretended to be dead to avoid being killed by gunmen. we will also have a special part from afghanistan whether the taliban is accused of driving as she a minority community out of their villages and homes. translation: this is the only thing i took from our home, a piece of cloth, i am here with my children and grandchildren. let's pick up on that story afghanistan straight away, because the bbc has obtained evidence that the bbc has obtained evidence that the taliban is driving hundreds of families from their community out of their villages. this is happening in central afghanistan where the town band was in power back in the �*90s, it was known to target and persecute ethnic and religious minorities, including this community. nine amnesty international report says that their team members of this community have been tilled by the taliban in the past month. my colleague has this special report. this is the home of mohammed, a farmer who says this house has been in his family for generations. now he's being told by his new taliban rulers that he and his family of eight muscular year. mohammed refused, so they began to destroy his home. translation: they didn't give us any reason, translation: they didn't give us any reason. they — translation: they didn't give us any reason, they said _ translation: they didn't give us any reason, they said these _ translation: they didn't give us any reason, they said these lands - translation: they didn't give us any reason, they said these lands are - reason, they said these lands are ours and you should leave. that was ours and you should leave. that was our family home. ours and you should leave. that was ourfamily home. this ours and you should leave. that was our family home. this was an empty land when my grandfather built our home on it more than half a century ago. i was born here.— ago. i was born here. more than 4,000 ago. i was born here. more than 4.000 people — ago. i was born here. more than 4,000 people from _ ago. i was born here. more than 4,000 people from here - ago. i was born here. more than 4,000 people from here are - 4,000 people from here are now displaced. translation: this 4,000 people from here are now displaced. tuna/mom- 4,000 people from here are now displaced. translation: this is the onl thin i displaced. translation: this is the only thing i took— displaced. translation: this is the only thing i took from _ displaced. translation: this is the only thing i took from our _ displaced. translation: this is the only thing i took from our home, - displaced. translation: this is the only thing i took from our home, a l only thing i took from our home, a piece of cloth. i'm here at my children and grandchildren. since the taliban _ children and grandchildren. since the taliban takeover _ children and grandchildren. since the taliban takeover of _ children and grandchildren. since the taliban takeover of afghanistan, they have been living in fear. when they have been living in fear. when they were last in power in the 1990s committee had a history of persecuting ethnic and religious minorities, especially this community. since the beginning of september, taliban fighters have claimed ownership of about 20 of these villages, claiming that families have lived here illegally. these villagers say they have got all the right documentation. translation: the all the right documentation. translation:— all the right documentation. translation: ., , ., ., , translation: the tab and gave us nine da s translation: the tab and gave us nine days to — translation: the tab and gave us nine days to evacuate _ translation: the tab and gave us nine days to evacuate and - translation: the tab and gave us nine days to evacuate and leave - translation: the tab and gave usj nine days to evacuate and leave our houses. they said if you don't move out we will punish you and you cannot complain. we want our rights. this is our home.— this is our home. according to local community — this is our home. according to local community leaders, _ this is our home. according to local community leaders, thousands - this is our home. according to local community leaders, thousands of i community leaders, thousands of people are now homeless. they are living in valleys, river sites and caves. they have lost notjust their homes, but farms, animals and annual products. when a community leader asked et al. beneficial where he should seek shelter during the coming winter season he responded hell. this community have had little choice but to flee, taking whatever little possessions they could carry. what they cannot escape now is the harsh winter and humanitarian crisis thatis harsh winter and humanitarian crisis that is unfolding. our next guest is from amnesty international. here she is on the specifics of amnesty�*s findings. is on the specifics of amnesty's findinus. ~ ., is on the specifics of amnesty's findinus. ~ . ., ., is on the specifics of amnesty's findinus. . . ., ., , is on the specifics of amnesty's findin.s, . ., ., ., , ., findings. what we have found is that we have evidence _ findings. what we have found is that we have evidence of _ findings. what we have found is that we have evidence of nine _ findings. what we have found is that we have evidence of nine of - findings. what we have found is that we have evidence of nine of these i we have evidence of nine of these people who where executed, firm or government security forces by the taliban along with four others, two were civilians who where shot when trying to escape, and this in our view points to a much larger scale of violence that is ongoing in afghanistan.— of violence that is ongoing in afr hanistan. . ., , afghanistan. the taliban has denied tarauetin afghanistan. the taliban has denied targeting this _ afghanistan. the taliban has denied targeting this community. _ afghanistan. the taliban has denied targeting this community. they - afghanistan. the taliban has denied targeting this community. they also j targeting this community. they also rejected amnesty's findings and sent their team this video response. translation at this report is one—sided and we call in all international organisations to come and conduct a proper investigation. this is not an acceptable conclusion. the investigation was not transparent. we took that statement to amnesty and this is what she told us. we statement to amnesty and this is what she told us.— statement to amnesty and this is what she told us. we have attempted to reach the — what she told us. we have attempted to reach the taliban _ what she told us. we have attempted to reach the taliban before _ what she told us. we have attempted to reach the taliban before the - what she told us. we have attempted to reach the taliban before the 21st i to reach the taliban before the 21st of september, we produce the reports listing a litany of abuses that the taliban have committed just in the days since they took over. we never received a response. and for them to now say that this was not transparent is not acceptable in our view. the best way to assure the world they are not committing human rights abuses is really to let the international community to monitor these human rights abuses that are taking place and we have been urging them through the un security council to set up an independent fact—finding mission that can do just that. fact-finding mission that can do 'ust that. �* , ., . , fact-finding mission that can do 'ust that. �* , . . , ., just that. let's hear directly from one young _ just that. let's hear directly from one young woman _ just that. let's hear directly from one young woman who _ just that. let's hear directly from one young woman who escaped l one young woman who escaped afghanistan and is now in delhi. we've kept her identity anonymous for her own safety. t5 we've kept her identity anonymous for her own safety.— for her own safety. is not the first time i'm hearing _ for her own safety. is not the first time i'm hearing it. _ for her own safety. is not the first time i'm hearing it. it's _ for her own safety. is not the first time i'm hearing it. it's like - for her own safety. is not the first time i'm hearing it. it's like this i time i'm hearing it. it's like this is on the 13 has been reported and i know that there are hundreds that have not been reported. this is happening all day, and we are hearing it from every little girl, every little boy that they are saying i saw that man kill that woman. i sigh he hit that one. i thought he did that. too many things that we are hearing and we have eyewitnesses, i myself, so it's really heartbreaking and i can't even know why they are doing it. it means a different face structure, different language, different religion according to the taliban, and theyjust want religion according to the taliban, and they just want to delete religion according to the taliban, and theyjust want to delete us. and mean maybe because we are different from them. the language is different, ourfaith from them. the language is different, our faith structure from them. the language is different, ourfaith structure is different. i can't understand why they are doing this, but maybe that is why. we are different from them. and we are trying to be better. we are trying to be successful, we are trying to make our country, and maybe that is the reason.- trying to make our country, and maybe that is the reason. now, the fallout is continuing _ maybe that is the reason. now, the fallout is continuing from _ maybe that is the reason. now, the fallout is continuing from a - fallout is continuing from a whistle—blower�*s testimony in the us senate about facebook. the company's ceo has responded. we will hear what he said in a moment, but let'sjust remind you, yesterday, a former product manager at facebook revealed internal research carried out by the company showed that one of its platforms, instagram, harm to children'smental health. she said facebook�*s algorithms promoted content that causes anger and division in society and that the company must be forced to change. they want you to believe that this is just part of the deal. i am here today to tell you that isn't true. these problems are solvable. i say fair free speech respecting these problems are solvable. i say fairfree speech respecting more enjoyable social media is possible. but there is one thing that i hope everyone takes away from these disclosures, it's that facebook can change, but is clearly not going to do so on its own.— do so on its own. let's lab didn't have a look— do so on its own. let's lab didn't have a look at _ do so on its own. let's lab didn't have a look at the _ do so on its own. let's lab didn't have a look at the statement - do so on its own. let's lab didn't| have a look at the statement that was released after that testimony. if you expect, he defended facebook and made a call that he has maybe before for governments to step in and tie to step in try to regulate social media. he posted all this on facebook, of course. he said it up play private companies should make all the decisions on their own. at some level, the right body to assess the trade—offs on social equity as it is our democratically elected congress. well, monica baker is vice president of content policy at facebook and she spoke to the bbc. we don't think that we should be making all of these decisions on our own. it's the reason that we have put this information out there in our community standards enforcement report. that's why we have an independent oversight board. it's also why we have called for regulation for more than two and half years and continue to engage with the uk regulators and supports at their focus on making sure companies have robust systems in place to keep their communities safe. ,, ., place to keep their communities safe, ., , ., ' place to keep their communities safe. ., , ., ' ., safe. son lots of different ways, a lot of people _ safe. son lots of different ways, a lot of people i _ safe. son lots of different ways, a lot of people i saying _ safe. son lots of different ways, a lot of people i saying they - safe. son lots of different ways, a | lot of people i saying they support the government, the us government stepping in and creating some new rules in this area. roger was an early investor in facebook and he definitely supports tighter regulation. definitely supports tighter regulation-— definitely supports tighter reuulation. ., ,, ., ., regulation. congress no longer has an excuse for— regulation. congress no longer has an excuse for delay, _ regulation. congress no longer has an excuse for delay, and _ regulation. congress no longer has an excuse for delay, and i - regulation. congress no longer has an excuse for delay, and i think- regulation. congress no longer has an excuse for delay, and i think it | an excuse for delay, and i think it is really striking about the hearing today was to see democrats and republicans actively talking to each other about new legislation that they might pass. i mean, if you watch the us senate, they don't pass legislation. so the notion of both sides working together is astonishing. that's how bad this is. i believe every country in the world should look at its own values and do what it thinks is right. i think the uk should have its own laws, i think that you should have its own laws. africa should have its own laws. asia should have its own lots, everywhere, south america, everywhere, south america, everywhere needs to do it, and the critical point here is we do not need a corrugated response here. every country should pick the thing that bothers than most, and they should focus on that.— that bothers than most, and they should focus on that. let's unpack some of this _ should focus on that. let's unpack some of this with _ should focus on that. let's unpack some of this with our _ should focus on that. let's unpack some of this with our assistant - some of this with our assistant professor at a university in new york. some of his bent year embedded inside facebook observing it grapple with some of these issues. thank you very much forjoining us. so everyone is saying, ok, let's regulate in some way. of course, the big question is how. where would you start? ., ., ., big question is how. where would you start? . ~ ., ., , start? yeah, i think that it really, kind of as — start? yeah, i think that it really, kind of as roger _ start? yeah, i think that it really, kind of as rogerjust _ start? yeah, i think that it really, kind of as rogerjust pointed - start? yeah, i think that it really, kind of as rogerjust pointed out| start? yeah, i think that it really, l kind of as rogerjust pointed out in the clip that you played, these countries have to decide that for themselves, although, iwould endeavour to point out that south america is not a country. these are the kind of limits that make what the kind of limits that make what the regulation would be and it's one of the reasons europe is ahead of the us right now.— of the reasons europe is ahead of the us right now. let's get into the detail, the us right now. let's get into the detail. though. _ the us right now. let's get into the detail, though, for _ the us right now. let's get into the detail, though, for example - the us right now. let's get into the detail, though, for example how i the us right now. let's get into the detail, though, for example how to verify someone's age if they sign up for instagram and facebook. how would you go about doing that? that is difficult. this — would you go about doing that? “tngt is difficult. this is something the companies have really struggled with for years, for over a decade, frankly, one of the ways that they do that as they ask for consent and you have to self identify. they do that if they require you to take a picture of yourself and an id and hold it on screen. these are very valuable ways of doing this. it's clunky, and i think i frankly commend this is not something that people want to hear right now, a lot of this comes down to parental control and personal responsibility over your own children and over your family. t over your own children and over your famil . ., , ., over your own children and over your famil . .,, ., ., ., ,~' i. over your own children and over your famil. ., ., ., ., family. i was going to ask you about that. let's take _ family. i was going to ask you about that. let's take an _ family. i was going to ask you about that. let's take an example - family. i was going to ask you about that. let's take an example of- family. i was going to ask you about that. let's take an example of a - family. i was going to ask you about that. let's take an example of a 15 l that. let's take an example of a 15 —year—old boy or girl who is using instagram into who says instagram is not making them feel good about themselves. what can the government or facebook do about that?— or facebook do about that? yeah, i mean, i or facebook do about that? yeah, i mean. ijust _ or facebook do about that? yeah, i mean, i just want _ or facebook do about that? yeah, i mean, i just want to _ or facebook do about that? yeah, i mean, i just want to endeavour - or facebook do about that? yeah, i mean, i just want to endeavour to l mean, i just want to endeavour to remind everyone, because i feel like sometimes we are goldfish in a ball swimming around with 32nd memories, we have been here before. we have had this conversation around the effect that fashion magazines and teenage magazines had on women's health and teenage girls house in the �*90s. and before that. and i grew up in that era with teen magazine and bmi limits for kate moss appearing in runway shows. this has been a problem for forever. moss appearing in runway shows. this has been a problem forforever. i think that we have a problem at scale that is certainly very real, but i do not think that this is an entirely new problem, and not to yeah, go ahead. tt is entirely new problem, and not to yeah. go ahead-— yeah, go ahead. it is not a new roblem yeah, go ahead. it is not a new problem entirely, _ yeah, go ahead. it is not a new problem entirely, but - yeah, go ahead. it is not a new problem entirely, but the - yeah, go ahead. it is not a new problem entirely, but the neat| yeah, go ahead. it is not a new - problem entirely, but the neat thing is algorithms which are serving people up things which may very much help facebook�*s bottom line, but may not be serving the broader community or society are certainly the individuals.— or society are certainly the individuals. , , , ., individuals. yes, but these are thins individuals. yes, but these are things that _ individuals. yes, but these are things that the _ individuals. yes, but these are things that the algorithms - individuals. yes, but these are things that the algorithms are | things that the algorithms are certainly getting at scale. i'm not saying that the harm is not at a scale that was much worse than before, but these are also things that have happened before and that we have not solved as a society. 50 we have not solved as a society. so help me out here, because we are talking through this, but i am not hearing him i'm hearing lots of people saying let's regulate the situation from a buy from you, i'm not hearing any specifics on what that regulation might actually look like. t that regulation might actually look like. . . like. i am sitting in the united states, like. i am sitting in the united states. we — like. i am sitting in the united states, we have _ like. i am sitting in the united states, we have the _ like. i am sitting in the united states, we have the first - like. i am sitting in the united - states, we have the first amendment which makes it very difficult to regulate anything that involves speech and to regulate companies that control speech because that would be methods of collateral censorship, so i don't think that there is necessarily come in this regard, i think that it is a very state—by—state comparison, nation states, not... right so why is that, given what you have just said that i am listening to democratic and republican senators saying we have to do something about this and i am reading mark zuckerberg sink estimate the politicians need to do something about it. they are all saying do something about it, you are saying they are in a country which shouldn't do something about it. why is that surprising? that is not surprising at all. it's very easy to make a talking point that says regulate near a talking point that says we should regulate. it is really hard to design an actual law that does that. that is literally what i have been trying... myself and a lot of other internet lawyers have been trying to do for six years. it's an incredibly difficult problem. we have not had cooperation from government, and we have not had cooperation from companies, and this has been a consistent problem and trying to do that stuff all the time is that it is a lot of empty talking points and not a lot of action. can ask ou points and not a lot of action. can ask you finally — points and not a lot of action. can ask you finally come to kate, you spent a year working inside facebook and observing it. did you get the impression that such a company with a culture that was tuned into the harm it potentially is doing and what to do about that? t harm it potentially is doing and what to do about that?- harm it potentially is doing and what to do about that? i love that iuestion what to do about that? i love that question because _ what to do about that? i love that question because there _ what to do about that? i love that question because there are - what to do about that? i love that question because there are two i question because there are two different, there are lots of different, there are lots of different facebook. it's not a company that is a monolith as the media painted. it's not mark zuckerberg, in fact, media painted. it's not mark zuckerberg, infact, i've media painted. it's not mark zuckerberg, in fact, i've spent a lot of time on the factory floor and met a lot of people there who went to work at the company, they went to work there hoping to get the right thing and helping to create change from within, and they did that for years, came up with great solutions and a lot of times they were stymied in those efforts by upper level management, and the c suite can and i think that is the best thing that's coming out of these hearings right now is complicating the narrative of what facebook is and what it is capable of.— narrative of what facebook is and what it is capable of. thank you for “oinini what it is capable of. thank you for joining us- — what it is capable of. thank you for joining us- we _ what it is capable of. thank you for joining us. we appreciate - what it is capable of. thank you for joining us. we appreciate it. - what it is capable of. thank you for joining us. we appreciate it. very l joining us. we appreciate it. very interesting to talk at there. that is kate leiva that's on the us, assistant professor at st. john's university law school in new york. stay with me here on outside sites. in a few minutes, back to the states to talk about california because the governor is coming to an end of offshore drilling after an oil spill. now, research is that the natural history museum have identified fossils of what they believe is the oldest meat eating dinosaur that lived, wow, existed in the uk. the dinosaur was a relative of the t rex but it was the size of a chicken. the fragments were found at a welsh quarry more than half a century ago, but they've only just quarry more than half a century ago, but they've onlyjust come to light again. here's the bbc�*s christ money. it's the closest wales has ever had to a real life dragon — the metre—long, meat—eating theropod christened pendraig, or chief dragon. and this is what remains. a hip and thigh bone lost for years in the natural history museum's collection until they were recovered from the wrong drawer and everything fell into place. this is one of the oldest dinosaurs from the uk and it the oldest known meat—eating dinosaurfrom the uk. this period was when dinosaurs first started evolving. so, dinosaurs are very famous from later days, in thejurassic and the cretaceous, when they really dominated the world, but in this time period, at the end of the triassic, they were only one of several reptile groups. the fossils were found over 60 years ago at this site in south wales, not by palaeontologists but by quarrymen as they blasted off the limestone wall behind me. it has taken decades to realise just how significant their find was. they were all quite small, only about 50 centimetres tall or so. cindy's documented discoveries around the vale of glamorgan. there were dinosaurs here 200 million years ago. we do have footprints from a few larger ones, so we know there were a few larger dinosaurs, but we have very few remains of those. most of what we are finding are these very tiny dinosaurs. small in scale but huge in significance. pendraig's relatives could also be hidden in these rocks, waiting to be unearthed. hywel griffith, bbc news, in the vale of glamorgan. hello, here in the bbc news room from outside source. a court in london says shaikh mohammed ordered the phones of his ex—wife and her lawyers to be hacked. now, taiwan's defence minister says tensions with china are at their worst in 40 years. he is also warning there is a risk of an accidental military incidents between the two. here he is talking in taipei. translation: if they want to attack taiwan, they currently already have the ability. but we still have to see how it will be resolved. we are not committing any provocations, but if we make them mad, just like with us, if you make a snack, we will also show you what capabilities we have got. so after 2025, that is our assessment. china will be fully prepared. haifa. china will be fully prepared. now, that hasn't _ china will be fully prepared. now, that hasn't come _ china will be fully prepared. now, that hasn't come out _ china will be fully prepared. now, that hasn't come out of— china will be fully prepared. now, that hasn't come out of the - china will be fully prepared. now, that hasn't come out of the blue. we've been following the story for days now. since friday can i record number of chinese planes have entered the airspace. it's an area known as taiwan's air defence zone. to be clear, that's on is not the same as taiwan's territorial airspace, which china hasn't entered. at over 150 chinese planes have entered this area, including jets and bombers. this picture is from monday when 56 aircraft were seen. that was monday, then on tuesday, taiwan's president published an essay, and it, she warned of catastrophic consequences if taiwan were to fall to china, saying it would mean authoritarianism has the upper hand over democracy. but how great our residents in taipei over these tensions? let's hearfrom some of them. translation: i tensions? let's hear from some of them. translation:— tensions? let's hear from some of them. translation: i think it seems a little unrealistic _ them. translation: i think it seems a little unrealistic for _ them. translation: i think it seems a little unrealistic for some _ a little unrealistic for some so—called were to break out within this timeframe. i think there is more that china can do to us, like they can interfere with us economically or mess with taiwan through other international treaties. and use such methods to begin taiwan, but i don't think the real work could happen. i think it's just something they can say to other countries that they can invade taiwan, but i don't believe they would really do it. i would really do it. translation: i think from china's _ would really do it. translation: i think from china's perspective, - would really do it. translation: || think from china's perspective, this is a necessary action. it's a rational— is a necessary action. it's a rational step for them to make their own country— rational step for them to make their own country stronger by invading another— own country stronger by invading another country. but i am not worried, — another country. but i am not worried, because from taiwan's early years— worried, because from taiwan's early years until— worried, because from taiwan's early years until now, it's always been this way — years until now, it's always been this way. it'sjust years until now, it's always been this way. it's just like years until now, it's always been this way. it'sjust like an earthquake might happen, but you can't always be living in fear. for more on this. — can't always be living in fear. fr?" more on this, here is steven mcdonald and beijing.- more on this, here is steven mcdonald and beijing. mcdonald and bei'ing. every time the mainland jets — mcdonald and bei'ing. every time the mainland jets fly — mcdonald and beijing. every time the mainland jets fly close _ mcdonald and beijing. every time the mainland jets fly close to _ mcdonald and beijing. every time the mainland jets fly close to taiwan, - mainland jets fly close to taiwan, taiwan scrambles its own aircraft, and you can imagine there mighty missed medication or something like that, the next thing, they are firing at one another. now, in this moment of heightened tensions, we have the us presidentjoe biden saying that in a conversation he had a china's leader, president reiterated his country's commitments to agreements with the us over taiwan. now, but this is all about is that washington has been recognising beijing as the only legitimate ruler officially of all of the chinese world, if i can put it that way, and in return, taiwan well not to be taken by force, that it will only reunify with the mainland by peaceful means. now, he has been reminding president that he said that, but also, i suppose trying to tell people to try and calm tensions that china remains committed to this. but at the same time as saying that, it's also increasing tensions. it does seem to be a deliberate policy from the mainland to be ratcheting up pressure on taiwan. you know, we have these patriotic war movies, seemingly potentially preparing people for conflict. we have all of our social media china's government officials threatening to retake taiwan by force if necessary. and yet, president biden says that this won't happen according to the agreement that the president says his government is still adhering to. we shift from stephen and beijing to california where the state governor has called for an end to offshore drilling after an oil spill. this started at the beacon. large patches of oil in huntington beach, which is south of los angeles, caused by a ruptured pipeline eight km off the coast. now, california's governor, a democrat has a long expressed opposition to fossil fuels, so his reaction should not come as as a surprise. reaction should not come as as a sur-rise. �* . reaction should not come as as a sur-rise. �*, ., . reaction should not come as as a sur-rise. h ., . ., surprise. it's time once in a while - once and _ surprise. it's time once in a while - once and for— surprise. it's time once in a while - once and for all _ surprise. it's time once in a while - once and for all that _ surprise. it's time once in a while - once and for all that we - surprise. it's time once in a while - once and for all that we have i surprise. it's time once in a while - once and for all that we have to — once and for all that we have to have this as part of our future. this is also part of our past. we can talk about the good old days, how important these rigs have been to the prosperity of this country in the middle class, but at the end of the middle class, but at the end of the day, this is about the stale air of normalcy versus the fresh air of progress. of normalcy versus the fresh air of ro . ress. . of normalcy versus the fresh air of ”roress. , ., of normalcy versus the fresh air of ”roress. ,., ,, , . progress. this oil spills much smaller than _ progress. this oil spills much smaller than others - progress. this oil spills much smaller than others you - progress. this oil spills much smaller than others you may | progress. this oil spills much - smaller than others you may have heard of like deep water at the gulf of mexico in 2010, but it's one of california's biggest spells and decades can around half 1,000,000 l of oil where spewed into the sea. that would fit around a fit of an olympic swing pulled. it would need to be cleaned up of course. at 24 km stretch of the cost is now closed. hundreds of people are picking the oilfrom hundreds of people are picking the oil from the hundreds of people are picking the oilfrom the sand. hundreds of people are picking the oil from the sand. the full impact on wildlife weight don't yet know. a handful of birds have been treated for contamination, but of that involved in the clean—up says they are cautiously optimistic relating to the number of animals that might be affected. let's hope that's the case. while authorities are investigating what caused the pipeline to rapture, here is the coast guard. tide pipeline to rapture, here is the coast guard.— coast guard. we learned and identified _ coast guard. we learned and identified a _ coast guard. we learned and identified a slight _ coast guard. we learned and identified a slight bend - coast guard. we learned and identified a slight bend in - coast guard. we learned and l identified a slight bend in that pipeline which resulted in further investigation by that remotely operated vehicle. upon further investigation, we have determined that approximately 4,000 feet of the 17.7 mile pipeline has been displaced and has been that displaced and has been that displaced by 105 feet. what they further located was a 13 inch split in that pipe on the side of the pipe thatis in that pipe on the side of the pipe that is a likely source of release of oil. ., , , , , of oil. one theory is the split in this pipeline — of oil. one theory is the split in this pipeline was _ of oil. one theory is the split in this pipeline was caused - of oil. one theory is the split in this pipeline was caused by - this pipeline was caused by the anchor of a ship, and certainly less sgppy anchor of a ship, and certainly less sappy californian coast is very busy at the moment but container ships. they are waiting to dock at the port in la, but because of delays, partly connected to cove at them at the moment, they can't. john is from huntington beach wetlands conservancy. huntington beach wetlands conservancy-— huntington beach wetlands conservancy. huntington beach wetlands conservan . ,, , ., conservancy. sub to see the oil comini conservancy. sub to see the oil coming into _ conservancy. sub to see the oil coming into our— conservancy. sub to see the oil coming into our wetlands - conservancy. sub to see the oil coming into our wetlands was l conservancy. sub to see the oil. coming into our wetlands was just devastating. the good thing for us, the agencies worked really fast once everybody was notified. we had just conducted a drill nine months ago on how to shore up our wetlands, and we did that within six hours have been notified. we had crews out there and hazmat uniforms picking up the oil off the wetlands themselves, the next step is to start working on the surrounding islands and the shorelines around our marshes and also the large rock cc in the jetties because the oil has clung on the jetties and we have to clean that now. i have been in contact with our city mayor, when it happened in 1990, one of the things i was outlined outside of our harbour is in huntington beach with a single whole ships carrying crude oil, now it's on the double hall or larger out there, now we are looking at how can we either re—route the pipeline or do something more to protect it, that's the next bit of legislature we are working on today to go to our state and also the federal government. ibest to go to our state and also the federal government.— to go to our state and also the federal government. best of luck to eve one federal government. best of luck to everyone involved _ federal government. best of luck to everyone involved in _ federal government. best of luck to everyone involved in the _ federal government. best of luck to everyone involved in the clean-up. | federal government. best of luck to | everyone involved in the clean-up. i everyone involved in the clean—up. i will see you tomorrow at the same time. bye—bye. hello there. as we finally get through our first full week of october, we will have seen all flavours of autumn. we had rain and wind at the beginning of the week, today, we have seen some sunshine, and over the next couple of days, we are going to see some unseasonable warmth. temperatures at this time of year should be around the mid—teens for the first week of october, but as we head towards friday, we could see temperatures up as high as 20—21 celsius, 70 fahrenheit. and it will feel pleasant particularly if you get some sunshine. we've seen some sunshine today, but throughout the afternoon, the cloud has gathered out into the west. it's a weather front that's going to bring some rain into northern ireland and western scotland through the night, but more noticeably, it brings with it this south—westerly wind direction, a warm source, the air coming all the way up from the tropics, and that is going to bring some unseasonable warmth as we go through the week. in fact, it will bring a mild night, quite a lot of cloud around, maybe a little spot or two of drizzle with the most persistent rain into northern ireland and western scotland. temperatures here will hold up widely into mid—teens, but under clearer skies across east anglia, maybe into single figures. but we will start off the day on a rather cloudy, grey note. still that drizzle out to west wales, and still the rain quite persistent through western scotland and northern ireland, but where the cloud will break up and the sunshine comes through, those temperatures are likely to climb, as i say, up to highs of 27 celsius, that's 68 fahrenheit by the middle of thursday afternoon. and despite the rain, even a relatively mild story across scotland as well. first thing on friday, we could have an issue with some fog, some of it dence in places across central and southern england. that will take it's time to lift. it will do so, and some sunny spells continue to come through. that weather front still a nuisance, still sitting into northern ireland and western scotland. highest values perhaps on friday of 21 celsius somewhere across east wales, maybe across the north of england or the midlands. that is 70 fahrenheit. now, as we move into the start of the weekend, our weather front looks likely to start to slip out of scotland into the north of england. this will be the dividing line between this warm, moist air down to the south, still with some sunny spells coming through, but behind it, we will start to see the noticable difference in the feel of the weather gradually as those temperatures ease away and the wind direction swings round to a northwesterly. take care. this is bbc news. i'm maryam moshiri. the headlines at eight. a historic medical 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