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human. most of all, the chains on our feet. we are not slaves. migration is a right, not a crime. , ., crime. lights, camera, industrial _ crime. lights, camera, industrial action. - crime. lights, camera, i industrial action. bunkers across the us will go on strike for the first time in history, in a move that will hold production. —— halt. welcome to our viewers on pbs in america and around the globe. two big stories about facebook to bring you this hour. first, facebook says an outage that took down its social media site, as well as instagram and whatsapp is slowly returning to normal. facebook is apologise for what it called networking issues. the company was forced to send a message to his millions of users on twitter. the ceo of facebook, mark zuckerberg, issued this statement, saying things are slowly coming back to normal and thanking users for their patients. shares in the company closed down almost 5% in new york. chris watts turrbal is a technology expert, just outside boston. thanks for coming up on the programme thank you for coming in the programme. thanks for having me. what has gone wrong here? it does seem that there was a catastrophic network failure. that all the different facebook properties, instagram, even oculus, and whatsapp used, it was a catastrophic failure that basically took down and made it seem like none of their networks existed within facebook and outside of facebook and outside of facebook and outside of facebook and the real problem, and i think this is why it took so long to repair was facebook was totally dependent to do anything because of their dependency on the network. so things like just communicating between employees or even opening the data centre doors with an electronic budget to get into repair things, all of that failed because of the dependency on the network. this dependency _ dependency on the network. this dependency on the network. this dependency on this network, is this something that all big companies or big tech platforms just have to be that dependent and so if it goes wrong it goes wrong, or is there a kind of more systemic value here, that they should have been able to silo this, separate out this was yellow i think facebook was pretty unique with its dependency on their network here. �* , , dependency on their network here. �*, , ., here. it's 'ust because of the size and here. it'sjust because of the size and the _ here. it'sjust because of the size and the scale, _ here. it'sjust because of the size and the scale, it - here. it'sjust because of the size and the scale, it is - size and the scale, it is almost like they are operating, you know, their own mini internet. but there were no, it seems there were no backup systems, no easy way for people to communicate or override the failure and so theyjust had to basically physically go to different places, have keys to unlock doors, as opposed to use the traditional ways they did it. so they had to fall back on, you know, physical means of going into the data centre and physically touching me router. that is something they don't normally have to do and it takes sometimes —— touching the router. is takes sometimes -- touching the router. , , ,., router. is this something exose router. is this something expose like _ router. is this something expose like you - router. is this something expose like you have - router. is this something l expose like you have been waiting to happen as an inevitability of the way the system has been set up or has it taken you by surprise because yellow we have been talking for a while about these kind of systemic failures and cascading failures.— cascading failures. this is something _ cascading failures. this is something that _ cascading failures. this is something that cyber- cascading failures. this is - something that cyber security people think about all the time. we had the colonial pipeline incident in the united states and the cascading failure was like people could not get gasoline for a computer pro —— computer problem. this is something we studied and see if we are over dependent on a particular system coming have a fallback so that we can quickly, you quickly recover. you know, i could imagine you could design a system that would have allowed them to recover in minutes, but it was just a system that wasn't a thought of that way and i bet they will be redesigning this in the future. we they will be redesigning this in the future.— in the future. we will see if we hear — in the future. we will see if we hear any _ in the future. we will see if we hear any more - in the future. we will see if we hear any more from - in the future. we will see if i we hear any more from them. chris, thank you for letting us your expertise. thank you. the outage is not the only reason facebook is in the news. the good be about to get worse. on tuesday, a whistleblower who used to work for the company will tell us politicians at a senate hearing that facebook�*s own research showed how much time it social media platforms were causing. with me is courtney bembridge. a couple of things to clarify, this is completely separate from the outage story we were just talking about, a coincidence that both things have happened at the same time. this is a whistleblower, who are they and what they say? it is whistleblower, who are they and what they say?— what they say? it is a woman named francis _ what they say? it is a woman named francis haugen. - what they say? it is a woman named francis haugen. until| named francis haugen. until recently she worked at the civil integrity unit at facebook stop she left earlier this year and on her way out she carried a series just cobbitty series of documents called the facebook files. these showed a range of things from the way celebrities and politicians were treated by the platform in terms of crosschecking information they post and the suggestion was they were treated differently to the regular public. also there was talk about instagram and body image. so the impact on mental health, young girls in particular, very vulnerable, 32%, this is research the company itself conducted, they found 32% of young girls felt worse about themselves after going onto instagram. that is of chief concern. central to all these allegations that have come out from the whistleblower is this idea that the algorithm, that facebook, that instagram's algorithm is designed to show you content that evokes a reaction, an emotional reaction, so that favours hateful content, divisive content, and misinformation that is easily shared. so that is what she said was the conflict of interest between what is good for the public and what is good for the public and what is good for facebook and we can listen to how she put it in an interview with 60 minutes ahead of the senate hearing.— of the senate hearing. facebook has realised _ of the senate hearing. facebook has realised that _ of the senate hearing. facebook has realised that if _ of the senate hearing. facebook has realised that if they - has realised that if they change the algorithm to be safer— change the algorithm to be safer people will spend less time — safer people will spend less time on _ safer people will spend less time on the site, they will click— time on the site, they will click on— time on the site, they will click on the sides, they will make — click on the sides, they will make less money.- click on the sides, they will make less money. you mentioned those senate _ make less money. you mentioned those senate hearings, _ make less money. you mentioned those senate hearings, this - make less money. you mentioned those senate hearings, this is - those senate hearings, this is appearing before politicians in the united states, but, of course, this isn't a company that only operates in the united states. about the rest of the world?— united states. about the rest of the world? these are hardly unusual allegations _ of the world? these are hardly unusual allegations was - of the world? these are hardly unusual allegations was a - unusual allegations was a social media giant. we do know that there are two billion users worldwide and critics say that facebook is unable to moderate all of the content that those users generate. we know that in 2020 the work that facebook, the company, did you tackle information and disinformation, 13% of it was outside the us of it, 90% of the company's users are outside of the us. many say there is a lot of work to be done, us lawmakers will be interrogating this closely and looking at this, but that it is not enough. for its part, it is worth saying that facebook says to suggest that we encourage bad content and do nothing is just not true. it has said that the whistleblower�*s claims are misleading and kind of gloss over, there is this statement now, and gloss over the work it is doing, but certainly critics say it is not going anywhere near far enough say it is not going anywhere nearfar enough and say it is not going anywhere near far enough and that will be the focus of this hearing. thank you. we will keep an eye on those senate hearings late on those senate hearings late on tuesday. facebook, instagram, and whatsapp may have been done, but our abc news website is still available. logon or take a look on the bbc news app for what is going on and what went wrong with those social media sites. let us get some of the day's of newshour. president biden has accused the republicans, who were blocking his players to try to raise the us government's debt ceiling, of acting recklessly and dangerously. america's borrowings have reached 28 trillion and unless congress agrees to an increase within about a fortnight many parts of the government will have to shut down. taiwan has called on beijing to stop irresponsible, provocative actions after 56 chinese warplanes entered its air defence zone on monday. that is the largest ever reported incursion by china's airforce. china, which sees taiwan as a breakaway province, has lame taiwan's la, the us for increasing tensions in the region. officials in california see the oils washing up along the coast is spreading to more beaches. booms and barriers have been put in place in seven locations to try to stop oil from reaching shore. this link is spreading after a pipeline leak south of los angeles, spilling almost 600,000 litres. now, a secretive russian whose businesses have act 3a members of parliament for the uk's ruling conservative party has been involved in a russian corruption scandal. that is according to an investigation by the bbc�*s panorama programme. the league documents show that the former oil executive secretly benefited from an alleged $4 billion fraud. his lawyers told the bbc there is no evidence whatsoever that he behaved improperly. the revelations came from the pandora papers. a—league of 12 million offshore documents. richard bilton has the full story. these are the beaches that a russian businessman has big plans. france is 100 miles across the channel. later this month uk government will decide whether or not to approve ambitious plans linked to with an underwater energy and communication cable. the billion pound scheme will be built by ackland, a company owned by victor fedotovs, it is controversial because his businesses have given the conservative 740,000 pounds, including donations to 34 tory mps. the reason this matters is because they want to lay a cable under the channel. you have to ask _ cable under the channel. you have to ask yourself - cable under the channel. ym. have to ask yourself why, in those circumstances, they feel they need to go to such elaborate efforts and spend such money and such time to get access to the conservative party. access to the conservative -a . ~ ., ~ party. working with the international _ party. working with the | international consortium international journalists and the guardian, panorama has found out how the man behind the plan made a fortune. the total length _ the plan made a fortune. the total length of _ the plan made a fortune. the total length of our _ the plan made a fortune. the total length of our pipelines is over_ total length of our pipelines is over 68,000 kilometres. documents show how he and two managers of transnet, the russian state oil pipeline firm secretly owned a company that was owned the contracts. it has previously been alleged in russia that the company was paid huge sums that were never done. now the files show how profits from that contract were pushed through offshore companies to secretive trusts controlled by the man and two of the men it looks like they siphoned off more than $1 trillion. if siphoned off more than $1 trillion. , ., , ., ., , siphoned off more than $1 trillion. , ., ., trillion. if people are able to construct — trillion. if people are able to construct a _ trillion. if people are able to construct a scheme - trillion. if people are able to construct a scheme whereby trillion. if people are able to - construct a scheme whereby they can extract, for doing nothing, $100 million plus out of government funds and then the real losers are the men, women and children rely on the government to give them education, health, loans, social services.— education, health, loans, social services. lawyers for them so — social services. lawyers for them so that _ social services. lawyers for them so that there - social services. lawyers for them so that there was - social services. lawyers for them so that there was no | them so that there was no evidence that funds were embezzled. he denies any allegations of wrongdoing and he never had any interest in british politics and has operated in an open and transparent manner. some of the money from the alleged ford ended up in the uk, helping to pay for mr fedotov�*s impressive country house. it is also funded his company and its donations to the conservative party. the prime minister today defended the vetting process. i defended the vetting process. 1 see that story again today, although can say is that all these donations are vetted in these donations are vetted in the normal way in accordance with rules that are set up under the labour government, without them the whole time. aha, without them the whole time. a conservative party spokesman said fundraising is a legitimate part of the democratic process and government policy is in no way influenced by donations. richard bilton, bbc news. stay with us on bbc news, still to come: william shatner, who is to travel into space at the age of 90. this was a celebration by people who were relishing their freedom. they believe everything's going to be different from now on, they think their country will be respected in the world once more, as it used to be before slobodan milosevic took power. the dalai lama, the exiled spiritual leader of tibet has won this year's nobel peace prize. as the parade was reaching its climax, two grenades exploded, and a group of shouldersjumped from a military truck taking part in the parade and ran towards the president, firing kalashnikov rifles. after 437 years, the skeletal ribs of king henry viii's - tragic warship emerged, i but even as divers worked to buoy her up, the mary rose went through another- heart—stopping drama. i want to be the people's govenor, i want to represent everybody. i believe in the people of california. cheering. welcome back, this is bbc news. headlines, facebook apologises as its platforms experience a huge outage. facebook, and instagram are resuming but full access may take some time. drama and hollywood where offscreen workers have voted to strike if their union can't reach an agreement with producers on a new contract. this would be the first nationwide industry strike in the 100 28 year history of the union, and would hold all film and tv production in america. here to talk to me about these negotiations is rebecca ryan who has been working on behalf of the international alliance of the international alliance of theatrical and stage employees. thank you very much for coming on the programme. pleasure. what are you asking for here? we are we a re really we are really asking for working conditions that most workers take for granted. we are asking for meal breaks during the day, we are asking for weekends, we are asking for rest periods between shifts. we are looking for liveable wage for some of the lowest paid crafts, looking for sustainable benefits as we all learned during the pandemic health benefits are essential, and a pension to allow people to retire with dignity, and we are asking that what was once called you mediate now be treated as traditional media, and they're very profitable companies that produce that pay industry—standard wages to our members for that work. just to be clear do you mean streaming, the big streaming services here? you say they aren't giving the right terms and conditions? they were given some accommodations when the business was younger and we all wanted it to grow together, but i don't think there can be any question that the business is now mature and companies like apple, amazon and disney certainly don't need a break to produce their product. this idea of going _ produce their product. this idea of going on _ produce their product. this idea of going on strike, - produce their product. this idea of going on strike, surely this is usually damaging just coming out of the pandemic as nobody is looking to go on strike but when 98% of your members step forward and say, we care enough about these issues to take a strike authorisation vote, what you haveis authorisation vote, what you have is a moment in time that the pandemic led to, which is people understand that health and safety are vital, and these producers can, in fact when they want to, create a culture that keeps people healthy and safe, because they did it during the pandemic when our members risked their lives to go back to work early. how confident are you that the strike could be avoided? what i am confident and is that if the employers come back to the table, they take our priorities are seriously, they do what negotiations are intended to do, which is to solve real problems that impact real workers that we can find an agreement that we can recommend and our members can rectify. 0k, we will see how these negotiations go, rebecca ryan, thank you. my thank you. my pleasure. the ussr define hundreds of migrants from a caribbean to haiti after they are legally crossed into texas from mexico. they have been housed in a makeshift camp. there has been a surge in haitians trying to flee political instability and natural disasters in their country. hoping for a silent end of the us, but they have now been returned home. will grant has the story. many haven't set foot on haitian soil in nearly a decade. now they are being sent back in their droves. every day, plane—loads of haitian deportees arrive at port—au prince airport, returning from the border camps in texas. exhausted and disappointed, most have nothing in haiti but the clothes on their backs. danielle and her family spent four months in chile. her son was born there. now, thrust back into a country on the brink of collapse. the family was never given a chance to apply for asylum by us officials, who reportedly told the deportees they were being flown to florida. translation: what hurts isn't being deported. - i knew from the start there were two options — being let in or being deported. what hurts is the treatment we received. inhumane. most of all, the chains on our feet. we are not slaves. migration is a right, not a crime. there is some immediate aid for the disorientated deportees but haiti can ill—afford more people arriving hour after hour. as we are talking, there is another bus right behind me. there is the sort of constant return, then? yes, as i say, this is a record day. we expect flights coming in to the evening. the situation in haiti right now is critical. there are at least three humanitarian crises at the same time. there was an earthquake six weeks ago, there are people displaced by gang violence. these deportations began at the us—mexico border but there are many more thousands of haitian migrants stuck around the region, bottlenecked in colombia, panama, central america. a truly continent—wide crisis landing back on haiti's shores. like most of the child deportees, this family's children are foreign nationals, born in brazil and seeing haiti for the first time. on arrival, they had nowhere to go and are staying at a friends in a gang— controlled part of town. translation: what now? we have nothing. we will have to travel again. the children aren't even haitians, they are brazilians. when they asked me, "what is happening, daddy?" i have to say, "we do not have anything here," life is very tough. theirs is the story of so many migrants from this complex and troubled nation. they went through hell to reach the us, and now find themselves back where they started with no savings or prospects in the one place they did everything to leave. will grant, bbc news, port—au—prince. geoff bezos will be sending claim shut into space on the next blue origin fight. at 90 years old, he will play on the next rocket on october 12. that's close to san francisco to speak to a senior writer with an astronomy magazine. what do you make of this? it is newsworthy, it is something to talk about, i guess, right? that was a point of this announcement, i'm sure. blue origin is getting some good publicity out of this and it will be a good advertisement for the product which is a... yes, it is a space tourism vehicle that can take people on brief trips to the suborbital frontier. to have a celebrity on your earlier frights to have a celebrity on your earlierfrights —— to have a celebrity on your earlier frights —— flights to have a celebrity on your earlierfrights —— flights must be great for publicity. i want to put this delicately but he is 90 years old. are there any particular risks with being that age and doing this? yes, well, you know, being 90, just getting out of bed in the morning is a risk, isuppose, so not to make light of it, but he is assigning a bunch of waivers and i'm sure he is a well aware of the risks involved. anybody getting on a spacecraft that is being launched off of earth via a rocket is a dangerous thing to do, you know, we aren't in the age of star trek where this stuff is routine, so this is a risk for anyone who gets on by these things. hopefully it is safe. this particular track record is good, it has done 17 trips to space and back, working every time, so that is a good track record but you never know. when you are 90 years old and feel like you are experiencing five years or 60 is coming back to earth... he looked like he is in pretty good shape, but there are risks. ., _ good shape, but there are risks. ., ., ~,, good shape, but there are risks. ., ., , risks. you say five or 6gs, is that geforce? _ that geforce? pressure the body? that geforce? pressure the bod ? , pressure the body? yes, it isn't crazy. _ pressure the body? yes, it isn't crazy, but _ pressure the body? yes, it isn't crazy, but it _ pressure the body? yes, it isn't crazy, but it is - pressure the body? yes, it isn't crazy, but it is not - isn't crazy, but it is not something that we are used to walking around. we are only used to 1g, the earth's gravity. so you just never know unless you are actually put into that kind of environment. and we have william shatner and other celebrities going up into space or orbit, when will it be time us. far off, we don't know how much blue origin is charging for these flights, they haven't revealed but the price for their geoff galactic as pretty high. what these companies are hoping for is that they will get enough volume going eventually where they can bring the price down. it is hard to see it coming down enough for us to afford a trip. you may need to save up for a mega splurge vacation. it will be some way. i don't see that in coming years may be 10—20 years. we will wait and see. yes, we will have to wait. thank you very much. sure thing. see you. just before we go, let me show you these live pictures of the volcanic eruption and the spanish island over la palma. we may have seen it over the last couple of weeks. still extraordinary pictures of that power, laughs. spewing. 6000 people have been evacuated from the exclusion zone there. while visiting the island of the weekend, the prime minister promised much more help. that is it from me, this is bbc news. after a couple of days of sunshine and showers we are now seeing an area of low pressure moving in from the south—west that is mainly affecting england and wales. that is bringing with it some heavy rain and it is also strengthening the winds too. we start with some heavy rain across east anglia and the south—east but it will soon move away. but for northern england it will be wet through much of the day. the rain continues to push into the south—east of scotland. forwales, midlands and southern england it may brighten up, there may be sunshine but also showers. around the area of low pressure we have strong winds, particularly where it is wet and it will make it feel cold. some of the wet weather could push into the north—east of scotland later, but we are missing the worst of the weather across western scotland and northern ireland with no more than one or two showers and some sunshine. the area of low pressure bringing the wet windy weather is slowly going to move away during wednesday, and the next system will be pushing and from the atlantic. we started with wind easing on wednesday for eastern england. the winds will ease, cloud and showers move away, sunshine comes out for many but then we look to the west. it will be clearing through the day, than in the afternoon rain will push in mainly for northern ireland. ahead of that, it should be a little bit warmer. temperatures of 16 or 17 degrees. there's warmer weather on the way later in the week. the weather front parking off scotland and northern ireland, high pressure into the south—east of the uk, so drawing drawing in a south—westerly wind all the way from the tropics. that's going to bring some higher temperatures, probably bring a lot of cloud, mind you, on thursday, and rain and drizzle at times across scotland and northern ireland. some dampness here and there across western england and wales with brighter skies further east. even with a lot of cloud, temperatures could reach 90 "19 degrees in belfast and newcastle could make 20 or so across other parts of england and wales. we still have that weather front hanging around a bit across northern parts of the uk. the position of the rain keeps chopping and changing, there's still the threat of rain for northern ireland, perhaps first thing in northern england as the rain moves northward into southern and central scotland. these areas not quite as warm, but with lighter winds and more sunshine breaking through across england and wales, it will be very mild, temperatures of 20 and 21 celsius. welcome to bbc news. facebook has apologised to users of its social network as well as whatsapp and instagram after it suffered a six outage. the company says access has now been restored but it will take some time for it to get to 100%. because has not been 100% disclosed. president biden says republicans were blocking his plans to try to raise the us debt ceiling are at recklessly and dangerously. america's borrowings have reached 20 trillion, parts of governments face a shutdown if an agreement can't be reached. the crew on hollywood films and tv shows have voted to strike if their union can't reach an agreement with producers on a new contract. in what would be the first station wide walkout in the history. it was the most reductions grind to a halt. —— productions.

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