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cup. but that's it from me. back to you. that's it. sir keir starmer in on the andrew marr show tomorrow morning at nine. but from me, and the team, have a very good night. hello, and welcome to our look ahead to what the papers will be bringing us tomorrow morning. with me i got the political editor of the people and the sunday mirror and also the political commentatorjoe phillips. we have had a few technical issues here this evening, so we only have a small selection of tomorrow's front pages available, butjoe and nigel of course ever the professional is doing their best, thank you very much for that, now looking very quickly at the saarte front pages, the sunday telegraph says boris johnson urges haulage firms to raise drivers' pay and it's the labour party conference this week, the sunday mirror has a pledge from keir starmer that he will tax primary schools in order to help porous children. the energy shortages forcing the government into approving a new wave of nuclear reactors. and the sunday people has a plea from marcus rashford to the government not to cut universal credit by £20 a week, so that is a little flavour of our many paper reviews, lovely to see you, jo and nigel. jo, we will start off at the front page of the telegraph, johnson demands a pay rise for truckers. this is the government pushing it straight back to industry to try and solve this crisis, this shortage of fuel drivers. it's interesting, i was interesting your —— watching your interview with leslie 0'brien, saying they had met the government three months ago and asked the drivers to be put onto the emergency shortage list and the government refused, so whatever is happening, whether you put wages up, whether you get retired drivers to come back to work, whether you train more or whether you have a programme which is supposed to be announced, it was still not solve the immediate problem, and the knock—on of this is deliveries of everything, it's not just fuel because there is not a shortage of fuel, it's the shortage of drivers.- at _ shortage of fuel, it's the shortage of drivers.- at the - shortage of fuel, it's the shortage of drivers.- at the moment | of drivers. nigel? at the moment grant shapps _ of drivers. nigel? at the moment grant shapps is — of drivers. nigel? at the moment grant shapps is trying _ of drivers. nigel? at the moment grant shapps is trying to - of drivers. nigel? at the moment grant shapps is trying to put - of drivers. nigel? at the moment grant shapps is trying to put a . grant shapps is trying to put a sticking — grant shapps is trying to put a sticking plaster over this by training _ sticking plaster over this by training 4000 british truckers over the next _ training 4000 british truckers over the next 12— training 4000 british truckers over the next 12 weeks in time for christmas and fast tracking visas for 5000 — christmas and fast tracking visas for 5000 from abroad. but it is only a sticking _ for 5000 from abroad. but it is only a sticking plaster. what the supermarkets are saying is you actually — supermarkets are saying is you actually need 15,000 drivers now to make _ actually need 15,000 drivers now to make things work so come on the basis _ make things work so come on the basis of— make things work so come on the basis of that, i think that boris johnson — basis of that, i think that boris johnson in _ basis of that, i think that boris johnson in this instance is absolutely right. what you need to be doing _ absolutely right. what you need to be doing is offering better pay and conditions, especially forthe be doing is offering better pay and conditions, especially for the long term, _ conditions, especially for the long term, to — conditions, especially for the long term, to make sure this does not happen— term, to make sure this does not happen again. apparently the government next week will send out 1 million _ government next week will send out 1 million letters to everyone they can find who _ million letters to everyone they can find who holds an hgv licence. some of those _ find who holds an hgv licence. some of those people might be in their 905. _ of those people might be in their 90s, certainly some will be retired! but an— 90s, certainly some will be retired! but an awful lot of them would presumably be prepared to do the job provided _ presumably be prepared to do the job provided they got the right pay on the right— provided they got the right pay on the right conditions to work. astounding, the right conditions to work. it�*s astounding, isn't it? we heard an interview earlier with martin croxall and also a point made on radio four that the drivers can earn more stacking shelves in a certain supermarket. more stacking shelves in a certain sunermarket-_ supermarket. exactly. there are fi . ures supermarket. exactly. there are figures being — supermarket. exactly. there are figures being bandied _ supermarket. exactly. there are figures being bandied about - supermarket. exactly. there are figures being bandied about in l supermarket. exactly. there are - figures being bandied about in some of the paper saying, you can earn £75,000 as an hgv driver, you can earn £3 million as all the staff, this is not the reality, and i had the same programme that you did and there was a chap talking about hgv hourly rates of £10 an hour in the west country, so it's variable and it's notjust about pay but the conditions. they have to sleep in their trucks, they haven't got proper washing and toilet facilities, they have to live on pretty awful food, and facilities, they have to live on pretty awfulfood, and if facilities, they have to live on pretty awful food, and if you prepare that to continental europe services, they are far better, so it's notjust about pay.— it's not 'ust about pay. very ruickl it's notjust about pay. very quickly before _ it's notjust about pay. very quickly before we _ it's notjust about pay. very quickly before we finish - it's notjust about pay. very quickly before we finish onl it's notjust about pay. very quickly before we finish on this subject and paper as well, what do you make, nigel, of the fact that the paper reports that grant shapps said this move has been designed to protect households' preparations for christmas? just christmas? there is after christmas!— after christmas! you're absolutely ri . ht, this after christmas! you're absolutely right, this does _ after christmas! you're absolutely right, this does not _ after christmas! you're absolutely right, this does not deal - after christmas! you're absolutely right, this does not deal with - after christmas! you're absolutely right, this does not deal with the l right, this does not deal with the lon- right, this does not deal with the long terrn — right, this does not deal with the long term. they have transferred a load of _ long term. they have transferred a load of military test examiners over to go— load of military test examiners over to go into _ load of military test examiners over to go into the tests for the drivers _ to go into the tests for the drivers. the idea is to get them trained — drivers. the idea is to get them trained up — drivers. the idea is to get them trained up from now over a period of 12 weeks. _ trained up from now over a period of 12 weeks, which means they were just about— 12 weeks, which means they were just about he _ 12 weeks, which means they were just about be ready to get into their caps _ about be ready to get into their caps on — about be ready to get into their caps on their own at about christmas time and. _ caps on their own at about christmas time and. no. — caps on their own at about christmas time and, no, it does not go further than that. _ time and, no, it does not go further than that. it— time and, no, it does not go further than that, it is purely an attempt to save _ than that, it is purely an attempt to save christmas and what will happen — to save christmas and what will happen in— to save christmas and what will happen in the new year is anyone here is— happen in the new year is anyone here is at— happen in the new year is anyone here is at the moment. let�*s happen in the new year is anyone here is at the moment.— happen in the new year is anyone here is at the moment. let's turn to the sunday — here is at the moment. let's turn to the sunday mirror _ here is at the moment. let's turn to the sunday mirror and _ here is at the moment. let's turn to the sunday mirror and of _ here is at the moment. let's turn to the sunday mirror and of course - here is at the moment. let's turn to the sunday mirror and of course the | the sunday mirror and of course the labour conference kicked off today, kicked off by angela rayner, what did you make of that, jo, and also the front page of the mirror, sir keir saying he will tax private schools to help poorer kids? i’m schools to help poorer kids? i'm sure nigel— schools to help poorer kids? i“n sure nigel will talk more about the mirror story given it is his paper. but unfortunately the labour party seems to have shot itself in both feet by creating a completely unnecessary internal row about how to elect a leader, keir starmer�*s bid to stop another left wing takeover, but of course it has created huge divisions, he has had to row back on it, there is already talk of angela rayner pitching for the leadership, she did very well in the leadership, she did very well in the house of commons earlier this week when she was standing in port said car because the prime minister was away, so it is the two deputies, but this is a headline that is pretty meaningless about taxing private schools. actually, there is a crisis about energy prices and job shortages that we have been talking about, there is a crisis looming for the 5 million families who will lose £200 a week of universal credit, thatis £200 a week of universal credit, that is the sort of thing that the labour party really need to be talking about, not something that may or may not come to fruition. they just don't seem may or may not come to fruition. theyjust don't seem to get it and they have so many opportunities with so much chaos going on around them, and the government fighting on all fronts. this does not seem to me to be the right pitch to take.— be the right pitch to take. nigel, this is your _ be the right pitch to take. nigel, this is your paper, _ be the right pitch to take. nigel, this is your paper, did _ be the right pitch to take. nigel, this is your paper, did you - be the right pitch to take. nigel, this is your paper, did you get i be the right pitch to take. nigel, | this is your paper, did you get the sense he did get it? obviously we will hear more about him tomorrow, he is appearing on andrew marr, but your story, your paper. 1 he is appearing on andrew marr, but your story, your paper.— your story, your paper. i agree with jo. the various _ your story, your paper. i agree with jo. the various issues _ your story, your paper. i agree with jo. the various issues she - your story, your paper. i agree with jo. the various issues she raised i jo. the various issues she raised will be _ jo. the various issues she raised will be dealt with during the week at the _ will be dealt with during the week at the labour party conference. this particular— at the labour party conference. this particular measure, the idea of actually— particular measure, the idea of actually taking the charitable status — actually taking the charitable status away from private schools means _ status away from private schools means you — status away from private schools means you will raise £1.7 billion because — means you will raise £1.7 billion because that is what they get away with. _ because that is what they get away with. no— because that is what they get away with, no vat on business rates. the {1.7 with, no vat on business rates. the £17 billion — with, no vat on business rates. the £1.7 billion will go towards an education revolution to do things like make — education revolution to do things like make sure that every single child _ like make sure that every single child has— like make sure that every single child has a — like make sure that every single child has a laptop at home, to make sure that _ child has a laptop at home, to make sure that every single child will -et sure that every single child will get careers advice with an adviser going _ get careers advice with an adviser going into — get careers advice with an adviser going into every school once a week, those _ going into every school once a week, those are _ going into every school once a week, those are the kind of things it will pay for. _ those are the kind of things it will pay for, and i don't think £1.7 billion— pay for, and i don't think £1.7 billion is— pay for, and i don't think £1.7 billion is actually trivial, and it doesn't — billion is actually trivial, and it doesn't seem fair to me this has been _ doesn't seem fair to me this has been bouncing around for ages but why should private schools be treated — why should private schools be treated as charities? they are businesses.— treated as charities? they are businesses. �* , ., ,, ._ businesses. let's turn to the sunday times, so businesses. let's turn to the sunday times. so many _ businesses. let's turn to the sunday times, so many options _ businesses. let's turn to the sunday times, so many options we - businesses. let's turn to the sunday times, so many options we have - businesses. let's turn to the sunday l times, so many options we have been hearing about following the energy and gas crisis, one is on the front page of the times, energy panic ushers in a new nuclear age, jo. it's quite an interesting story because rolls—royce are leading a consortium to develop what they are calling many nuclear reactors, and they are expected to get the go—ahead from the business secretary later on this week. and it does seem to me that this is a change of focus and the government is certainly seem to be changing its focus towards nuclear energy because what we have seen is we don't have the storage capacity for gas, and we have seen what has happened with that in the collapse of various energy companies in the last week and the prospect of rising fuel, but it has to be said, the government... previous governments were warned about this lack of storage capability more than ten years ago and in 2017 our biggest gas storage place was closed down, so all of this stuff is great, nuclear processing plants and nuclear processing plants and nuclear energy might be the way to go but all of this reeks of last minute not thinking, and i'm afraid we are entering a time where the focus very much should be on green, clean not least because of cut, but it's about having long—term plans and looking at —— looking out for the future, so this might happen but none of them would be up and running until 2050, so it's a long time. it's a case of firefighting. nigel, it's a case of firefighting. nigel, i would like to get to the last paper, seeing as we only have four. the front page of the sunday people, and its marcus rashford axing the £25 benefit cut now. he and its marcus rashford axing the £25 benefit cut now.— and its marcus rashford axing the £25 benefit cut now. he is “oining a chorus of £25 benefit cut now. he is “oining a ohous of row i £25 benefit cut now. he is “oining a chorus of tory and h £25 benefit cut now. he is “oining a chorus of tory and labour _ £25 benefit cut now. he is joining a chorus of tory and labour mps - £25 benefit cut now. he is joining a chorus of tory and labour mps and | £25 benefit cut now. he is joining a l chorus of tory and labour mps and a whole _ chorus of tory and labour mps and a whole load _ chorus of tory and labour mps and a whole load of other people saying the £20 _ whole load of other people saying the £20 uplift in universal credit should _ the £20 uplift in universal credit should stay. in fairness to the government, they have made it perfectly— government, they have made it perfectly clear this was only a temporary measure but frankly once you actually introduce measures like this it's _ you actually introduce measures like this it's very— you actually introduce measures like this it's very difficult to take it away. — this it's very difficult to take it away. so _ this it's very difficult to take it away. so i _ this it's very difficult to take it away, so i think they will have to think— away, so i think they will have to think again — away, so i think they will have to think again on this, and the real problem — think again on this, and the real problem with universal credit is it doesn't _ problem with universal credit is it doesn't actually work, the more you earn. _ doesn't actually work, the more you earn. the _ doesn't actually work, the more you earn, the more you lose, so you have a marginal— earn, the more you lose, so you have a marginaltax— earn, the more you lose, so you have a marginal tax range of 63% which means— a marginal tax range of 63% which means you — a marginal tax range of 63% which means you only get 37p and the pound above _ means you only get 37p and the pound above a _ means you only get 37p and the pound above a certain limit, and if you were— above a certain limit, and if you were trying— above a certain limit, and if you were trying to earn back that £20, you would — were trying to earn back that £20, you would in reality have to earn £53 to _ you would in reality have to earn £53 to replace that, so i think what you really— £53 to replace that, so i think what you really need in the long term is a different— you really need in the long term is a different system from universal credit. _ a different system from universal credit, you will hear more about that from — credit, you will hear more about that from labour this week in the conference, but in the meantime the uplift _ conference, but in the meantime the uplift should stay in marcus rashford is absolutely right. we will leave rashford is absolutely right. - will leave it there for now, but we will leave it there for now, but we will have another papers edition, hopefully a longer one with more papers, but for now always a pleasure, thank you very much, see you later. and thank you forjoining us, we will be back again at 11:30pm, i'm back at the top of the hour with more news, coming up next, click. in the middle of the otherworldly landscape of iceland, something strange is going on. 130,000 barley plants are slowly making their way from one end of this greenhouse to the other. it is in the food chain but it's not food for us and it's not food for animals, no. this is something much, much weirder than that. this grass is a host. it's been genetically modified to carry a special protein called a growth factor in its seeds. once the plants reach the end of theirjourney, these seeds are harvested, milled and purified and the resulting growth factor protein can be used to help produce something very unexpected. meat, in a lab, without the animals. i think we will reach the point where it's not, like, nice to have. i think we have to have it. the earth is not going to grow, we're not going to get more agriculture area, the population is rising, and we have to feed all of the people. the argument for growing meat in labs without living animals is that the process will eventually require less land, less energy and produce less harmful waste. and it takes more agricultural land to go grow feed for the animals that we eat. we are are essentially bypassing that. so we don't have to kill all these animals, we just have to take the stem cell from them and i think this is a more viable and more environmental, much better option. companies using cow stem cells to make lab grown beef burgers and even lab grown steak are already trying out growth factors made here in iceland. and although the first—ever growth factors came from animals, it's hoped that this barley plant method will be cheaper and scalable because nature can do a lot of the heavy lifting. but at the moment, research is still ongoing to come up with the barley that produces the very best growth factors, which is why the volcanic and geothermal peculiarities of iceland are an ideal place to experiment with different growing conditions. they're growing the barley in this which is volcanic pumice from mount hekla which is somewhere over there. the good thing about pumice is it is inert so it doesn't really release any nutrients into the plants itself and that means these guys can completely control the nutrient mix that the barley gets. we are here in a high—tech greenhouse that is using geothermal energy for heating and for the electricity. we are using hydroponic cultivation. the computer decides when to open windows, when to turn off lights, went to pump in c02, what nutrition to feed these plants and so forth. but eventually these carefully programmed plants will have to be harvested in regularfields to produce enough growth factor for a global label lab grown meat industry, and barley specifically has been chosen because it can grow in many different climates and it also doesn't cross pollinate with other plants around it. the typical farm in iceland, which is about 150 hectares, could actually produce about 10,000 tons of meat. that's if lab grown meat is indeed the answer. after all, aren't we all supposed to be eating more greens? well, not too far away another company is tapping into iceland's geothermal power to put us on an altogether different diet. this is food for us, or at least it will be one day. it's not something we're currently used to eating, mind you, but tastes change. it's algae. i know — sounds kind of ewww, doesn't it? but the microalgae growing in these test units are rich in protein and omega 3, much more so than traditional crops grown in a field, and they also consume way fewer natural resources too. in these systems, we can grow a ton of protein and using 300—400 timesj less water and 14—1500 times less land than the best thing _ that we know today. and, in fact, because algae is a plant, it has another environmental benefit — photosynthesis. we get the c02 from the power plant, we get into our system, _ i we use algae to actually fix that. c02 into biomass and they breathe out oxygen, so oxygen - is actually our only byproduct of this product. which is not a bad byproduct, really. the health authorities don't seem to mind. i he laughs. so, right here in geothermal iceland where electricity and hot water are both essentially clean, green and on tap, growing this algae ends up being carbon negative. it pulls more c02 out of the environment than the electricity puts back in. but in order to feed the world, these algae farms would need to be placed around the globe. and not everywhere's on top of a volcano. the system itself is always carbon negative because we take in c02,| we fix it in biomass - and we breathe out oxygen. but if you're having to use electricity that's generated through coal... exactly. ..then the system is generating c02 as well... yes, yes. and can then you connect the pipe from the powerstation, straight back into the algae and suck it back in? that is actually a possibility. this is what we're doing right now. these guys, they need c02, - so we could actually take whatever c02 into the system, theoretically. and, in fact, vaxa is thinking even further ahead than improving the environment here on earth. growing food in small spaces with limited water and producing oxygen as a byproduct sounds like a pretty useful thing to be able to do, i don't know, in a moon base or on mars. if the colonists can stomach it, that is. all right, let me ask you a question, what does algae taste like? um, basically, the medium it's in. so this algae is a cold seawater algae. - salty, then? so it's salty. the problem is, thisl one is fairly robust... by fairly robust, you mean a tough chew? it's a tough chew, yeah, it is. he laughs. 0k, i've been made an offer that i can't refuse. kiti said, would you like to drink some algae? of course i would! oh, my life! for real, or? 0k. i can do it first, if you want. you're not having a laugh? i can do it first. yeah, it's fishy. yeah. needs a little, um... what's it called? a lie down afterwards, that's it. 0k. hmm, maybe it will take a more creative chef than me to be able to sell this straight onto the plate. the streets of san francisco are home to many self—driving cars so naturally the sky above the city is home to a self—flying plane. this is xwing, a company that has developed an autonomous flying system that handles everything from taxiing to take off to landing to parking. the system is similar to self—driving cars and uses a lot of the same tech like lidar cameras and sensors to navigate the skies. while a command centre on the ground helps the autonomous system communicate with the humans in air traffic control. and now that i'm suited and booted, let's see this thing in action. so this is basically a beta version of what they're working on, which means it will also make always require a safety pilot on board but the company is working to be entirely autonomous meaning none of these by the end of next year, and they're also hoping to get faa certification in 2024. all that the human pilot on board has to do is physically turn the plane on, check that all systems are go and press the button that activates the autonomous system. then it's up to the plane. it does have to liaise with a human in the ground control centre while it's making its way to the runway for takeoff but that's just to ensure its safe to cross certain parts of the strip. during takeoff, it's almost like an ghost is in control because all of the parts are still moving but i'm not saying what's moving them. once you've trained a robot once, you can build as many robots as you want, they all do the same thing, right? yeah. some of what the sensors are picking up is augmented over a realtime view of three cameras mounted on the exterior of the plane. the purpleish bits off to the side are other planes that are in the area, while the bluish coloured lines in front of the plane are the flight path. on our way back to base the team decided to let me fly the plane. so we're taking control of the aeroplane. so he's out of the loop because he doesn't know what you are doing. all right. i don't know what i'm doing. perfect. after a quick lesson on xbox controller, i was flying a plane for the first time ever. sure, i was just controlling the direction and the altitude but it was a lot of fun. they even let me go as far as a 45 degrees tilt. aeroplanes have been equipped with autopilot systems for years already but the system xwing has developed takes that to the next level. if i was just a passenger in this plane, i would have never known it was being flown autonomously. the ride, takeoff and landing were as smooth as any other flight i've been on. i've always wanted to get a pilot's license, but maybe tech like this means i won't ever need to, but it's still likely a ways off before we see widespread adaptation and faa approval of unmanned aircrafts. and that's all we have time for in the short version of click for this week. the full—length version is brilliant, check it out, please, it's on iplayer and it's waiting for you right now. and don't forget you can catch up with our latest exploits on social media whenever you fancy. we live on facebook, youtube, instagram and twitter @bbcclick. thanks for watching and we'll see you soon. very warm this weekend for the time of year. _ very warm this weekend for the time of year. rather— very warm this weekend for the time of year, rather gloomy _ very warm this weekend for the time of year, rather gloomy for _ very warm this weekend for the time of year, rather gloomy for many - very warm this weekend for the time of year, rather gloomy for many of l of year, rather gloomy for many of us today. — of year, rather gloomy for many of us today, tomorrow— of year, rather gloomy for many of us today, tomorrow a _ of year, rather gloomy for many of us today, tomorrow a better - of year, rather gloomy for many ofl us today, tomorrow a better chance of seeing _ us today, tomorrow a better chance of seeing the — us today, tomorrow a better chance of seeing the sunshine _ us today, tomorrow a better chance of seeing the sunshine the - us today, tomorrow a better chance of seeing the sunshine the winds i of seeing the sunshine the winds will be _ of seeing the sunshine the winds will be stronger, _ of seeing the sunshine the winds will be stronger, breaking - of seeing the sunshine the winds will be stronger, breaking up - of seeing the sunshine the windsj will be stronger, breaking up the cloud _ will be stronger, breaking up the cloud but— will be stronger, breaking up the cloud but rain— will be stronger, breaking up the cloud but rain will— will be stronger, breaking up the cloud but rain will arrive - will be stronger, breaking up the cloud but rain will arrive at - will be stronger, breaking up the cloud but rain will arrive at west| cloud but rain will arrive at west thanks _ cloud but rain will arrive at west thanks to — cloud but rain will arrive at west thanks to the _ cloud but rain will arrive at west thanks to the cloud _ cloud but rain will arrive at west thanks to the cloud but - cloud but rain will arrive at west thanks to the cloud but rain - cloud but rain will arrive at west thanks to the cloud but rain will| thanks to the cloud but rain will arrive _ thanks to the cloud but rain will arrive at— thanks to the cloud but rain will arrive at west _ thanks to the cloud but rain will arrive at west thanks _ thanks to the cloud but rain will arrive at west thanks to - thanks to the cloud but rain will arrive at west thanks to this - thanks to the cloud but rain will. arrive at west thanks to this cold front _ arrive at west thanks to this cold front. ., . , arrive at west thanks to this cold front. ., ., , , ., ., , front. tonight mainly dry, variable cloud, mr amber, _ front. tonight mainly dry, variable cloud, mr amber, one _ front. tonight mainly dry, variable cloud, mr amber, one or- front. tonight mainly dry, variable cloud, mr amber, one or two - front. tonight mainly dry, variable | cloud, mr amber, one or two spots front. tonight mainly dry, variable . cloud, mr amber, one or two spots of drizzle, temperatures not falling below 13—15 across the board. tomorrow starts off form, mainly dry, more sunshine around as the winds will be stronger from the south, breaking up cloud, meanwhile this cold front will arrive across northern ireland and scotland bringing stronger winds and heavy rain at times and temperatures in the mid to high teens, eastern scotland, england and wales very warm, 20—23 . that cold front journeys eastwards during sunday night, does not reach the eastern side of the country until monday morning so here another dry, muggy and warm night but further west behind a rain band it will turn cooler. hello this is bbc news. the latest headlines for viewers in the uk and around the world. huawei executive arrives back in china to a heroes welcome after more than two and half years under house arrest in canada. after more than a thousand days of suffering, ifinally after more than a thousand days of suffering, i finally returned to the motherland. the long wait abroad was full of struggles and sufferings. china released the two canadians. days after her arrest, they arrived in calgary a few hours ago. also ahead, a laxative campaigning in germany as country decides who it wants to lead them and post merkel era.

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