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we don't want you to get sick. we don't we don't want you to get sick. don't want we don't want you to get sick. - don't want you to die. we don't want you to get sick. we don't want you to die. and - we don't want you to get sick. we don't want you to die. and when l we don't want you to get sick. we i don't want you to die. and when your turn comes. — don't want you to die. and when your turn comes, take _ don't want you to die. and when your turn comes, take the _ don't want you to die. and when your turn comes, take the job. _ dozens of high profile stars join a campaign by sir lenny henry, urging people from black communities to get the covid vaccine. good morning. one of the premier league's greatest strikers, sergio aguero, manchester city's record goalscorer, will leave the club at the end of the season — but wants to win more titles before he goes. hello. the pandemic has seen a huge increase in the number of people wanting to move to the countryside and the coast. we are in cornwall to find out what is going on. good morning. further heavy rain across the north and west of scotland and gusty winds. forthe and west of scotland and gusty winds. for the rest of us, some warm sunshine across england and wales. more details in about ten minutes. good morning. it's tuesday, the 30th of march. our top story. covid—19 is likely to have been passed to humans from bats through another animal — that's according to a long awaited report from the world health organization into how the pandemic started. the study — seen by the bbc ahead of its publication this afternoon — also dismisses claims that the virus escaped from a laboratory in china as "extremely unlikely". aru na iyenga reports. this eagerly awaited report has faced setbacks and diplomatic wrangling. experts from the who had trouble even getting into wuhan, the city at the centre of the initial outbreak of covid—19. investigations finally started in january this year, more than a year after the first cases emerged. key findings of the experts' report are that covid—19 passed from bats, through an intermediary animal, to humans. but it doesn't offer definitive answers on the mystery at the very heart of the pandemic — how the virus first jumped to humans. and the theory that the virus was released via a laboratory incident in china, is considered extremely unlikely. of course, i will have more to say following further review and understanding of the report. but for now, all hypotheses will be on the table and will need further study. although the wuhan food market was initially thought to be where the outbreak began, who and chinese scientists found evidence that the virus could have been circulating for some weeks before december 2019, and some of those infected had no connection with the market. it comes as the prime minister, borisjohnson, joins a group of more than 20 world leaders calling for a new international treaty to help the world deal with future pandemics. they say coronavirus has posed the biggest challenge to the global community since the 1940s, and countries must be better prepared in the future. the covid—19 pandemic has killed almost 2.8 million people worldwide. it's hoped the report's findings will give some clearer answers on how the virus came about. aruna iyengar, bbc news. another pandemic or health crisis is a matter of "not if, but when" — that's the warning from a group of more than 20 world leaders. borisjohnson, emmanuel macron, and germany's chancellor merkel are among those calling for a new international treaty to deal with future outbreaks and ensure universal and equal access to medicine and vaccines. in the us, witnesses have given powerful testimonies of the final moments of the life of george floyd, on the opening day of the trial of the former police officer accused of his murder. prosecutors showed the jury video footage of derek chauvin kneeling on mr floyd's neck for more than nine minutes. he denies the charges against him. our correspondent, lebo diseko sent this report from minneapolis. let's all say, i do. i do. thank you, you may be seated. derek chauvin facing a jury of his peers. the central question for both sides in this case, what caused george floyd's death? we are going to ask that you find him guilty. the prosecution says it was chauvin kneeling on his neck for nine minutes and 29 seconds. on may 25 of 2020, mr derek chauvin betrayed his badge, when he used excessive and unreasonable force upon the body of mr george floyd. counsel, mr chauvin... the defence argued that the officers were facing an increasingly hostile crowd, distracting them from mr floyd's care. his death, they said, was the result of drug use and poor health. the evidence will show that mr floyd died of a cardiac arrhythmia that - occurred as a result - of hypertension, his coronary disease, the ingestion _ of methamphetamine and fentanyl and the adrenaline flowing - through his body, all of which acted to further compromise - an already compromised heart. among the opening day's witnesses a 9/11 dispatch worker who was watching the arrest by a police camera. she was so alarmed by what she saw, that she rang the officer's supervisor. this is the most high—profile police brutality case to be tried in the us for decades. race isn't being mentioned in court, but its significance is inescapable. people across this country and the world are watching what happens here closely. lebo diseko, bbc news, minneapolis. lebojoins us now from outside court in minneapolis. lebo, talk us through events so far. well, we heard of the defence and the prosecution said out of there cases_ the prosecution said out of there cases in— the prosecution said out of there cases in the opening statements and with the _ cases in the opening statements and with the three witnesses we saw take the witness stand yesterday. the continuation of the last witness, that martial arts expert, is likely to be _ that martial arts expert, is likely to be what— that martial arts expert, is likely to be what kicks off proceedings in the morning. but it was interesting seeing _ the morning. but it was interesting seeing the — the morning. but it was interesting seeing the two sides set out their case _ seeing the two sides set out their case the — seeing the two sides set out their case. the prosecution began by saying — case. the prosecution began by saying they wanted to remember the numbers— saying they wanted to remember the numbers 929, the number of minutes, nine minutes, — numbers 929, the number of minutes, nine minutes, 29 seconds, the time they say— nine minutes, 29 seconds, the time they say derek chauvin was on the george _ they say derek chauvin was on the george floyd's neck. they started out by— george floyd's neck. they started out by playing very early the full video _ out by playing very early the full video that we saw going around the world _ video that we saw going around the world. many of the duras hadn't seen that vide0~ _ world. many of the duras hadn't seen that video. and even the people who had, it— that video. and even the people who had, it was_ that video. and even the people who had, it was quite a shocking remindeh _ had, it was quite a shocking reminder. the prosecutor is saying, you can _ reminder. the prosecutor is saying, you can believe your eyes. basically saying. _ you can believe your eyes. basically saying, whatever the defence say, believe _ saying, whatever the defence say, believe what you see here is the cause _ believe what you see here is the cause of— believe what you see here is the cause of death. the defence arguing that we _ cause of death. the defence arguing that we don't know the cause of death — that we don't know the cause of death as — that we don't know the cause of death as i _ that we don't know the cause of death. as i mentioned in my report, there _ death. as i mentioned in my report, there are _ death. as i mentioned in my report, there are several other underlying factors— there are several other underlying factors they argue were at play. and they also _ factors they argue were at play. and they also mentioned the fact that there _ they also mentioned the fact that there were other pieces of evidence. it's there were other pieces of evidence. it's hot _ there were other pieces of evidence. it's hotiust— there were other pieces of evidence. it's notjust about there were other pieces of evidence. it's not just about the amount of time _ it's not just about the amount of time the — it's not just about the amount of time the encounter took. they mentioned 50,000 pieces of evidence that have _ mentioned 50,000 pieces of evidence that have to be gone through. and they asked — that have to be gone through. and they asked the jury to bear that in mind _ they asked the jury to bear that in mind and — they asked the jury to bear that in mind and that their client, they say wasiust_ mind and that their client, they say wasjust following his mind and that their client, they say was just following his training. thank— was just following his training. thank you very much for the latest. that is something we will continue to follow over the course of the trial, which should take at least a few weeks. a new finger prick blood test that can detect antibodies to the coronavirus is to be used to track the impact of the vaccination programme across the uk. the office for national statistics will also be able to use the data gathered from around 150,000 volunteers, to determine how resistant existing vaccines are against emerging strains of the virus. it's enabling us to do things faster. to do things at greater scale. and it's enabling us, really, to be able to make sure that no areas of the population are invisible. we've got estimates right across our population. sir lenny henry has written an open letter, urging black british people to get the covid 19 jab. in a letter signed by celebrities like actor the david harwood and reverend rose hudson—wilkin, he acknowledges what he describes as "legitimate concerns", but says it's time people trusted doctors and scientists involved in the vaccine's development. don't let your concerns be the thing that widens racial inequality in our society. don't let coronavirus cost even more black lives. because we matter. we love you. we don't want you to get sick. we don't want you to die. so please, hear us. and when your turn comes... ..take the jab. we'll bejoined we'll be joined live we'll bejoined live in we'll be joined live in the programme bites are lenny henry at half past seven this morning. police in london are appealing for help in tracing a teenager who has been missing for a week. richard okorogeyyay, who is 19, was last seen leaving his home in west london. his family say the student had been �*struggling to cope' with university. container ships have started sailing through the suez canal again, after a stranded vessel blocking it for nearly a week was finally freed. the trapped ever given caused long delays as hundreds of ships are waiting to pass through the canal, which links the mediterranean to the red sea. experts say the backlog will takes days to clear. it's going to be a little bit warm, it's going to be a little bit warm, i think, in parts of the uk today. a good day today. i think, in parts of the uk today. a good day today-— good day today. carol always says for some. she _ good day today. carol always says for some. she covers _ good day today. carol always says for some. she covers her- good day today. carol always says for some. she covers her back. i good day today. carol always says i for some. she covers her back. carol will do the — for some. she covers her back. carol will do the actual— for some. she covers her back. carol will do the actual factual— for some. she covers her back. carol will do the actual factual weather forecast. good morning, carol. fingers crossed for sunshine. bless you. some of us will have some sunshine. that is not covering my back, dan, you cheeky thing! there is some rain across the north—west of scotland. gusty winds there will ease through the day. yesterday was the warmest day of the year so far. the temperature reached 20.3 celsius in writtle. today it is going to be even warmer for in writtle. today it is going to be even warmerfor some of in writtle. today it is going to be even warmer for some of us. what is happening we have got a clear skies across southern england and wales. further clear skies developing. some frost and fog to watch out for. that will break up quite quickly. breaks in the east. you can see where we have got all this rain across northern and western scotland, moving into shetland through the course of today. temperature wise under this radar it would be quite cool under this radar it would be quite cool, 11 degrees. as we come further south we are looking at 22 or 23 degrees. on average the temperatures at this stage in march are roughly nine to about 13 degrees, north to south. quite a difference. through this evening and overnight it will not be quite as cold in southern areas as it was last night. but we will still have this rain. the rain is slowly going to be slipping south through the course of the night across more parts of scotland and getting into northern ireland as well. temperature wise this is what you can expect overnight. nine in aberdeen, ten in london. i will keep you on tenterhooks as to what is going to happen for the rest of the week. you will have to wait another half an hour for that. thank you very half an hourfor that. thank you very much for half an hour for that. thank you very much for that. sorry for the mention early on! i know you are not covering your back. i know you are incredibly accurate, carol. i have no control over what comes out of my mouth until half past seven. , . . , out of my mouth until half past seven. , ., . , ., out of my mouth until half past seven. , ., . , ., ., out of my mouth until half past seven. , ., . , ., ., if you've wanted to avoid the fuss of cooking at home, the only option for much of the last year has been to order a takeaway. it has become too much of a habit in our house. ., it has become too much of a habit in our house-— our house. how many nights a week are we looking _ our house. how many nights a week are we looking at? _ our house. how many nights a week are we looking at? at _ our house. how many nights a week are we looking at? at least - our house. how many nights a week are we looking at? at least one, - are we looking at? at least one, frida is are we looking at? at least one, friday is for _ are we looking at? at least one, friday is for sure. _ are we looking at? at least one, friday is for sure. fish _ are we looking at? at least one, friday is for sure. fish and - are we looking at? at least one, friday is for sure. fish and chipsj friday is for sure. fish and chips on friday. _ friday is for sure. fish and chips on friday, isn't— friday is for sure. fish and chips on friday, isn't it? _ deliveroo, one of the biggest food delivery companies, is launching on the stock market this week but some big investors aren't going to take a bite. nina's here to explain why. it is interesting. when you hear about things lunging on the stock market you might think, boring, nothing to do with me. but we have all been eating a lot more takeaways this year. the implications of when it floats on the stock market today has an impact on us all. yes, good morning and welcome to the front door of the bbc breakfast house, where we're talking about food delivery and in particular deliveroo. if you live in a big city in the uk you've probably seen one of their bikes delivering food from local restaurants and takeaways. the company are launching on the london stock exchange this week, which means anybody can invest in the hope of making some money. deliveroo has said it expects to be valued up to around £7.8 billion. a lot of money, but not as much as the £8.8 billion price range the company previously touted. the company says lower valuation is down to wider issues in the stock markets which have been all over the place — understandably — over the last year. but there are other issues at play. deliveroo riders who drop off the food are not staff members. investors say that is putting them off committing to deliveroo. here's why. under the underthe gig under the gig economy a rider, deliveroo. _ under the gig economy a rider, deliveroo, ora under the gig economy a rider, deliveroo, or a similar company operating — deliveroo, or a similar company operating under the same model, will be paid _ operating under the same model, will be paid per— operating under the same model, will be paid per ride work rather than actually— be paid per ride work rather than actually be — be paid per ride work rather than actually be contractually —— contracted to receive a national living _ contracted to receive a national living wage from the company. and some _ living wage from the company. and some institutional investors say they are — some institutional investors say they are concerned about this model going _ they are concerned about this model going forward. not least because of workers' _ going forward. not least because of workers' rights. but also, because it could _ workers' rights. but also, because it could mean deliveroo will have to change _ it could mean deliveroo will have to change its _ it could mean deliveroo will have to change its low—cost model, and that could _ change its low—cost model, and that could eat _ change its low—cost model, and that could eat into profitability down the line — could eat into profitability down the line. is could eat into profitability down the line. , . , ., , could eat into profitability down the line. , . , ., the line. is that the shape of thins the line. is that the shape of things to _ the line. is that the shape of things to come? _ you might remember a couple of weeks ago, the taxi company uber reclassified its drivers as workers after a landmark legal case last month. now they're entitled to things like the minimum wage and holiday pay. some investors are also worried that this guy, the company's founder will shu, have 20 votes per share, compared to one vote per share for other investors. so ultimately, he'll have the final say on big decisions. and then there's the small issue of profit. deliveroo has yet to deliver one. but that won't stop investors placing bets on its future later today. how far they're willing to go will tell us something about how big money is feeling about the future of the economy, and of workers' rights — things that affect us all. if you think about it, you are doing it once a week at the moment. we have the option of going to a restaurant. we are spending about 30 quid a week on takeaways. dare restaurant. we are spending about 30 quid a week on takeaways.— quid a week on takeaways. are we?! it is an quid a week on takeaways. are we?! it is an awful — quid a week on takeaways. are we?! it is an awful lot _ quid a week on takeaways. are we?! it is an awful lot of— quid a week on takeaways. are we?! it is an awful lot of money, - quid a week on takeaways. are we?! it is an awful lot of money, isn't - it is an awful lot of money, isn't it? once restaurants reopen, it might return to that. will there be the same demand for delivery. i lose the same demand for delivery. i love the same demand for delivery. i love the bbc breakfast _ the same demand for delivery. i love the bbc breakfast house. _ let's take a look at today's papers. "we're on track to reopen shops and pubs", is the headline on the times. according to the paper, borisjohnson has said the uk is still on course for non—essential shops to open on april 12th, and for pubs and restaurants to be able to serve outdoors. the metro reports that the trial into the death of george floyd heard the policeman accused of his murder knelt on his neck for nine minutes and 29 seconds, and didn't get off even when a medic found no pulse. officer derek chauvin denies murder and manslaughter charges. the guardian leads on calls for an ofsted inquiry into shocking allegations of sexual misconduct in schools. the conservative mp maria miller, who oversaw a report into the issue in 2016, said the watchdog needed to look at the data it's been collecting, to see why the situation has not improved for children. shall we look at the inside pages? do you self diagnose on the wonder web? if! do you self diagnose on the wonder web? ., ., web? ifi did that i would never leave the _ web? ifi did that i would never leave the house. _ web? ifi did that i would never leave the house. do _ web? ifi did that i would never leave the house. do you - web? ifi did that i would never leave the house. do you think. web? ifi did that i would never| leave the house. do you think it adds to your _ leave the house. do you think it adds to your anxiety _ leave the house. do you think it adds to your anxiety levels? - leave the house. do you think it i adds to your anxiety levels? never check a rash? ho. adds to your anxiety levels? never check a rash?— adds to your anxiety levels? never check a rash? no. because the worst ossible check a rash? no. because the worst possible thing _ check a rash? no. because the worst possible thing comes _ check a rash? no. because the worst possible thing comes up _ check a rash? no. because the worst possible thing comes up worst. i check a rash? no. because the worst possible thing comes up worst. -- i possible thing comes up worst. -- 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and take it to l symptoms. i know if you look up i something online and take it to your doctor and say, i think it might be this, that is very often a good idea. �* , . , idea. there's a fine line between that and self-diagnosis. - idea. there's a fine line between that and self-diagnosis. 70,000j that and self—diagnosis. 70,000 every single minute is how many checks there are on health conditions on google. 70,000 every single minute. around 7% of all the questions asked relate to health. i questions asked relate to health. i dare not go down that rabbit hole, ever. i’ll dare not go down that rabbit hole, ever. �* . y ., dare not go down that rabbit hole, ever. �* ., y., 4' ., dare not go down that rabbit hole, ever. �* ., ~ ., i'm dare not go down that rabbit hole, j ever-_ l'm being ever. i'll have you know! i'm being really serious _ ever. i'll have you know! i'm being really serious now. _ ever. i'll have you know! i'm being really serious now. i _ ever. i'll have you know! i'm being really serious now. i am _ ever. i'll have you know! i'm being really serious now. i am going i ever. i'll have you know! i'm being really serious now. i am going to l really serious now. i am going to talk to you about frozen veg made into the shape of animals. yesterday we had romesh ranganathan talking about trying to get his kids to eat. this is genius. here we have a dad from salisbury who has been making his daughter's food into shapes. here we have all laugh from frozen. which is brilliant. i don't if you can just which is brilliant. i don't if you canjust go down which is brilliant. i don't if you can just go down a little bit. that is peppa pig. i don't know why the newspaper have put a question mark after it. there is no debate for me. it is made from a red pepper. i get it is made from a red pepper. i get it. hel it is made from a red pepper. i get it- help me. _ it is made from a red pepper. i get it. help me, please. _ it is made from a red pepper. i get it. help me, please. sorry. - it is made from a red pepper. i get it. help me, please. sorry. i'll- it. help me, please. sorry. i'll rephrase _ it. help me, please. sorry. i'll rephrase that. _ it. help me, please. sorry. i'll rephrase that. how— it. help me, please. sorry. i'll rephrase that. how do - it. help me, please. sorry. i'll rephrase that. how do you i it. help me, please. sorry. i'll| rephrase that. how do you feel it. help me, please. sorry. i'll- rephrase that. how do you feel about snakes? i hate them. i have got a snakes? i hate them. i have got a snake issue. snakes? i hate them. i have got a snake issue-— snake issue. don't love them. wouldn't _ snake issue. don't love them. wouldn't like _ snake issue. don't love them. wouldn't like to _ snake issue. don't love them. wouldn't like to find - snake issue. don't love them. wouldn't like to find one i snake issue. don't love them. wouldn't like to find one in i snake issue. don't love them. | wouldn't like to find one in my house. , , ~ , wouldn't like to find one in my house. , , ,, , ., , house. this is unlikely to help. i will 'ust house. this is unlikely to help. i willjust show— house. this is unlikely to help. i willjust show you _ house. this is unlikely to help. i willjust show you the _ house. this is unlikely to help. i willjust show you the pictures. | house. this is unlikely to help. i| willjust show you the pictures. if you have got a snake issues, this will not help at all. this is in thailand. have a look at this. this is an eight foot python found in the actual toilet. and somebody was on thejob at the actual toilet. and somebody was on the job at the time when they ducked down and saw that. working its way around the rebound. that down and saw that. working its way around the rebound.— around the rebound. that is someone's _ around the rebound. that is someone's nightmare i around the rebound. that is someone's nightmare made around the rebound. that is i someone's nightmare made real. around the rebound. that is - someone's nightmare made real. this ha--ened someone's nightmare made real. this happened in — someone's nightmare made real. this happened in a — someone's nightmare made real. this happened in a bog. startled the homeowner, who was sitting on it that the time. they waited for the snake to peer out of the bowl again, grabbed it with a stick and took it a suitable distance away and released it. checked it was ok. the snakeis released it. checked it was ok. the snake is all right, and hopefully the person who was on the toilet is ok. ., ., �* ., �* ,._ ok. you wouldn't go back. i'm sorry if we have — ok. you wouldn't go back. i'm sorry if we have made _ ok. you wouldn't go back. i'm sorry if we have made any _ ok. you wouldn't go back. i'm sorry if we have made any of— ok. you wouldn't go back. i'm sorry if we have made any of your - ok. you wouldn't go back. i'm sorry if we have made any of your phobia | if we have made any of your phobia is worse this morning. health anxiety, snake anxiety, we have got it all! i anxiety, snake anxiety, we have got it all! ~' anxiety, snake anxiety, we have got it all! ~ ., ., it all! i think i will do it in a hole in the _ it all! i think i will do it in a hole in the ground - it all! i think i will do it in a hole in the ground from i it all! i think i will do it in a l hole in the ground from now it all! i think i will do it in a i hole in the ground from now on. it all! i think i will do it in a - hole in the ground from now on. we are here until quarter past nine. we have a fascinating chat with lenny henry coming up at half past seven this morning. amanda gorman stole the show atjoe biden's swearing in earlier this year, when the 22—year—old became the youngest poet to perform at an american presidential inauguration. she offered a hopeful vision for a divided country with her poem the hill we climb, and naga has been speaking to her about what that meant, the power of poetry, race and inspiring a new generation. we, the successors of a country and a time, where a skinny black girl, descended from slaves and raised by a single mother, can dream of becoming president, only to find herself reciting for one. amanda goldman, hello. hello! how are you feeling? so what, we're like two months on from the inauguration — your life's changed, hey? yeah, definitely. i mean, my life changed honestly in six minutes, not even in those two months, which is wild. i mean, thingsjust keep getting bigger and grander and brighter, and that's great. but i'm still adjusting to so much now. but i've been really grateful. let's talk about the inauguration, shall we? i was really interested in the process you put in place when you were thinking about the words that were going to go in the hill we climb. i don't know if you'd named it already. had you named the poem before it finished? no, i had no idea what the poem was called. i was just writing it into my documents. it was like, the inaugural poem, you know, very descriptive. and i didn't know what the title was. and it wasn't until i had, you know, honestly really finished the poem that i looked at that line that said, you know, "the hill we climb, if only we dare", and i was like, "that's it." that is the promise to glade, the hill we climb, if only we dare. it's because being american is more than a pride we inherit. it's the past we step into and how we repair it. it works, i think, for me on so many levels, and so, it's definitely a line i'll continue to say for the rest of my life. and it's interesting how every line mattered to the point that, at some point, only a line a day was being concluded. and i want you to tell me about how the events on capitol hill onjanuary the 6th, impacted you and in terms of the importance of your poem? yeah, well, you're so right about every word mattering, especially in poetry. actually, when i first began writing, i had only five minutes of allotted time from the inaugural committee. and afterjanuary 6th, i was like, "this poem is six minutes", and it's going to stay that way, because there's actually a lot more that needs to get said. but it was at january 6th, you know, with the insurrection at the capitol, where i was seeing the way in which democracy in my country was being desecrated, that i really began to work with a much sharper knife and actually began to find a lot more material that did the most with the minutes, with the seconds that it had, because i was working with an event that was so tectonic, so shocking, that those words had to kind of be like stones in a slingshot, like i only get a few kind of aiming shots to really get my words in. i have to make sure that those have the impact that's needed after we've seen this type of horror. for there is always light, if only we're brave enough to see it, if only we're brave enough to be it. i want to talk about bravery and the bravery to speak out. and you'll be very aware there's a huge debate about race across the world, but particularly here in the uk right now, some of it around meghan markle and prince harry's interview. how important do you think it is that women of colour today, feel free to express their opinion, however uncomfortable it might be at times for others to hear? from a young age, my mom always raised me to celebrate my voice. for example, whenever i stood up to a bully, my mom would throw a little celebration. i would come home and be like, "mom, i stood up for myself today." and she would be so excited and so proud, and so it was training me from this age to really value my voice. but the other thing that i will say about the importance of bravery is it not only necessitates courage on the part of women of colour, but also courage on the part of our allies. so often the conversation is around kind of what women of colour can do to empower, save, etc, protect ourselves. but really, i think it has to be a collaboration in a partnership, or it takes other identity groups saying, "actually, i am an ally, i am a friend, what can i do to pay my own power forward?" and so i'm so excited to see those types of conversations happening. do you think the duchess of sussex, or meghan markle, was brave to speak up? oh, absolutely. yeah, definitely brave. i admire her so much. amanda gorman, thank you so much for your time. i wish you all the best. thank you so much. isn't that beautiful? really lovely to see that. it isn't that beautiful? really lovely to see that-— isn't that beautiful? really lovely to see that. it was a fantastic day yesterday. _ to see that. it was a fantastic day yesterday. for — to see that. it was a fantastic day yesterday, for some! _ to see that. it was a fantastic day yesterday, for some! many i to see that. it was a fantastic day | yesterday, for some! many people to see that. it was a fantastic day i yesterday, for some! many people in england were able to meet up for the first time in months. we'd love to hear your stories, or see pictures of how you chose to spend such a special day. you can email us at bbcbreakfast@bbc.co.uk do send them in. it did feel a bit different yesterday.— different yesterday. yes, lots of the --aer different yesterday. yes, lots of the paper is _ different yesterday. yes, lots of the paper is filled _ different yesterday. yes, lots of the paper is filled with - different yesterday. yes, lots of the paper is filled with those i different yesterday. yes, lots of l the paper is filled with those sorts of stories, people getting up to outdoor sports, cycling and one minute past midnight, we spoke to one guy in derbyshire, they were out one guy in derbyshire, they were out on their bikes very early in the morning. a golf —— round of golf played one on past midnight. the clina played one on past midnight. the cycling club _ played one on past midnight. the cycling club got a mention in boris johnson's press conference last night. time now to get the news, travel and weather where you are. good morning, i'm asad ahmad. police searching for a 2a year—old man who was mistakenly released from wormwood scrubs prison in west london have issued new images to help find him. william fernandez was on remand awaiting trial for sexual assault. the prison mistakenly freed him last wednesday when it's thought he went to get the tube from east acton station. he was last seen in harrow. police are appealing for information about his whereabouts. a london mental health charity says pregnant women and new mothers are three times more likely to suffer "poor mental health" in the wake of the coronavirus pandemic. the maternal mental health alliance found gaps in health services which led to "greater anxiety" among a majority of new mums, who have given birth over the past year. the alliance is looking at providing more support to mothers. the founder of the canvas cafe in spitalfields has been knocking on the doors of neighbours, including world famous artists gilbert and george, to make specially designed plates, which would pay for her new kitchen. it's not as cheeky as it sounds because the cafe in east london feeds the homeless and children who are at risk of hunger. over the past year they've also been providing meals for vulnerable residents which put pressure on the kitchen that needs refurbishment. ruth rogers, the founder, will be speaking to vanessa feltz this morning after 8.30 about her idea. let's take a look at the travel situation now. hammersmith and city line has severe delays because of train cancellations. on the roads, a lane is closed for gas works in both directions on great chertsey road. that's as you head to and from the hospital bridge roundabout. at elephant and castle, the traffic lights were out on newington butts until a few minutes ago. it's cleared up, so should be back to normal soon. and a lane is closed on the a3 for engineering works towards putney. now the weather with kate. good morning. yesterday we saw the warmest day of the year so far, stjames's park got up to 20.a celsius. and today it is set to get a little warmer. chilly start this morning, temperatures for most down in single figures. but it's a bright start, plenty of sunshine, the wind is light today and we're looking at a maximum temperature of 23 celsius. overnight tonight, again, clear skies. temperatures dropping perhaps not quite as low as last night but quite wide—ranging. we are looking at a minimum out towards parts of essex and the east around four celsius, whereas central london staying somewhere around ten celsius. for tomorrow, it's another warm day. we are hanging on to the warm air, and a similar for thursday as well. but notice we start to just see that colder moving south as we head through thursday and into friday. so temperatures, low 20s for the next couple of days, come friday, quite a dramatic temperature drop, just in time, of course, for the easter weekend. i'm back with the latest from the bbc london newsroom in half an hour. check out our instagram, twitter and facebook pages. hello, this is breakfast with sally nugent and dan walker. coming up on breakfast this morning. we love you. we know we don't say it often enough. we'll speak to sir lenny henry about leading a star—studded campaign urging black people in britain to get the covid—19 vaccine. you may have seen this cctv footage of two beautiful labradors being stolen from outside a supermarket this weekend. we'll hear how the rising price of puppies over lockdown has led to a big increase in pet thefts. and as "the syndicate" returns to our screens tonight, we'll be talking lucky dips and big wins with writer kay mellor and star katherine rose morley. many of us will be celebrating the lifting of restricitons in england this week by meeting family and friends for the first time in months. but how much of an impact will even small changes to lockdown have on the number of coronavirus cases? let's speak to this morning's gp, drwilliam bird. lovely to see you, good morning. good morning. we lovely to see you, good morning. good morning-— lovely to see you, good morning. good morning. we do feel like there is a shift this — good morning. we do feel like there is a shift this week, _ good morning. we do feel like there is a shift this week, don't _ good morning. we do feel like there is a shift this week, don't we? i is a shift this week, don't we? let's start there. people are starting to meet up, socially distanced, and the required number of people, but how much of a change and an impact are you expecting these changes to have? i and an impact are you expecting these changes to have?- and an impact are you expecting these changes to have? i think we are auoin these changes to have? i think we are going to _ these changes to have? i think we are going to start _ these changes to have? i think we are going to start to _ these changes to have? i think we are going to start to see _ these changes to have? i think we are going to start to see a - these changes to have? i think we are going to start to see a small. are going to start to see a small rise, it is still under r, in the —— in the one —— it is still under one, the r number. we have seen a slight rise in secondary school children getting coronavirus after the schools came back, but no one else. it's going to be the same, mostly the younger people now will get coronavirus, they will get more of it as more people mix together but that has all been put into the calculations. as long as that number keeps the lone one, as long as we keeps the lone one, as long as we keep the growth from coming back again to where it was, we should be ok. it is all in the calculations and they have looked at all the different scenarios. hopefully if things can track on, that small uptick in people will not cause any hesitation in the lockdown. professor chris whitty was talking yesterday in downing street about the expected changes and the uptick as you said. i suppose at this point, is it right that everybody remains quite calm about this and expect it in a way?— expect it in a way? well, yes, we know a huge _ expect it in a way? well, yes, we know a huge number, _ expect it in a way? well, yes, we know a huge number, 80 - expect it in a way? well, yes, we know a huge number, 80 or- expect it in a way? well, yes, we know a huge number, 80 or 90%j expect it in a way? well, yes, we i know a huge number, 80 or 9096 of know a huge number, 80 or 90% of people who are hospitalised or died where the elderly. so that comes rapidly down after the age of 70, 50s and 60s, the numbers get smaller. when you get into the 30s and a05, it smaller. when you get into the 305 and a05, it is very rare and a minute ri5k and a05, it is very rare and a minute risk of having to end up in hospital. but it does happen and ho5pital. but it does happen and there are some sad cases of even some deaths but they are few and far between. if we do get a rise in this group, it should not lead to the dreadful deaths and problems in intensive care and hospital admissions that we saw before. this is calculated. a5 admissions that we saw before. this is calculated. as you know, most people who get it, don't get a serious disease, you either get no symptoms at all or some symptoms and that gets more likely in the younger age group. we are going to see it but it won't be a worry and we don't need to worry, i don't think, about having to slow down the unlocking of the lockdown. it is all looking encouraging at the moment. people are feeling much more relaxed than they have been for very many months, it's palpable in patients i am seeing. it's palpable in patients i am seeina. ~ it's palpable in patients i am seeina. . ., it's palpable in patients i am seeina. ~ ., ., , seeing. were also hearing this mornin: seeing. were also hearing this morning about _ seeing. were also hearing this morning about the _ seeing. were also hearing this morning about the new- seeing. were also hearing this morning about the new test i seeing. were also hearing this| morning about the new test for seeing. were also hearing this i morning about the new test for covid antibodies which involves a finger prick, what can you tell us about that? , , ., , prick, what can you tell us about that? ,, ., that? this is really important, almost the — that? this is really important, almost the bedrock _ that? this is really important, almost the bedrock of - that? this is really important, almost the bedrock of all i that? this is really important, almost the bedrock of all the l almost the bedrock of all the decisions being made. fir5t almost the bedrock of all the decisions being made. first of all, it works out how many people have got some immunity to the coronavirus. it will be about eight to 10%, that's the figures going around, uk and most of europe, but it varies hugely in london and other places, you can get higher rates. not only that but when they have done the blood test, and it will be a finger prick, with 150,000 people, it has been a nurse having to take blood, but a finger prick will be a much bigger group to have an antibody test. they will ask, have you had the vaccine, was it the pfizer or the astrazeneca, and then they will compare that with people who did not have the vaccine and then they will be able to get some very accurate figures about how much protection the vaccines are giving. they will also know hopefully if there has been a difference in whether it is the south african or a new variant or whichever variant, hopefully we will know that in the area. so we will get a better idea now of how the vaccines are really working. and also, what immunity is in the population. if you remember right at the beginning, everyone was talking about herd immunity. i think what we will find is that will never happen, we will never be able to get that. we will always have people who cannot have the vaccine, people who haven't had the vaccine can't be protected, if they have immune problems, for example, so we will always see the coronavirus going around. but this will give a good level of accuracy on the vaccine efficacy and which areas have been very badly affected, and it can be very badly affected, and it can be very small geographically, some places in london particularly have got very high rates. fine places in london particularly have got very high rates.— got very high rates. one quick ruestion got very high rates. one quick question before _ got very high rates. one quick question before you _ got very high rates. one quick question before you go, i got very high rates. one quick question before you go, we i got very high rates. one quick i question before you go, we hear got very high rates. one quick - question before you go, we hear this morning of a number of people being given the vaccine by the local gp perhaps at the end of the day when there is some vaccine left over. what do you do if you have some vaccine left over at the end of the day, should people be phoning up their gp and saying, are there any today, can i come in? lilo; their gp and saying, are there any today, can i come in?— their gp and saying, are there any today, can i come in? no, we really are not encouraging _ today, can i come in? no, we really are not encouraging people - today, can i come in? no, we really are not encouraging people to - today, can i come in? no, we really| are not encouraging people to phone up are not encouraging people to phone up and say have you got some vaccine, i will pop on my bike and come over! it might be people who have not been able to turn up earlier or people who were later being brought forward, they will still be in the cohort of that people, but perhaps getting it a bit earlier than they would have done. the first thing is, always have your phone on, you don't know when your text could come through saying, come earlier, we can sort it out for you. wise words as ever, doctor bird, thank you very much. always be on standby for your text. a lot of people are enjoying our gp slot at 6:30am, semi messages about them, we have some very reliable voices. i them, we have some very reliable voices. , ., ., voices. i will listen to doctor bird, i voices. i will listen to doctor bird. i will— voices. i will listen to doctor bird, i will not _ voices. i will listen to doctor bird, i will not dupe - voices. i will listen to doctor bird, i will not dupe doctor i voices. i will listen to doctor - bird, i will not dupe doctor google! —— | bird, i will not dupe doctor google! —— i will not use doctor google! john is here this morning. we are saying farewell to one of the best this morning. yes, good morning and goodbye to sergio aguero. just trying to sum up the impact that you have in the premier li, on a striker, you are judged on goals, and only three people have scored more than him in the premier league. he was such a key part of the rise of manchester city, it will be a sad part.- city, it will be a sad part. micah richards said, _ city, it will be a sad part. micah richards said, if _ city, it will be a sad part. micah richards said, if you _ city, it will be a sad part. micah richards said, if you gave - city, it will be a sad part. micah richards said, if you gave him l city, it will be a sad part. micah i richards said, if you gave him one player to score and his life depended on it, he would choose sergio aguero. bud depended on it, he would choose sergio aguer0-— depended on it, he would choose seriiioauero. �* ~ ., ,, ., sergio aguero. and alan shearer says he's u- sergio aguero. and alan shearer says he's up there — sergio aguero. and alan shearer says he's up there with _ sergio aguero. and alan shearer says he's up there with the _ sergio aguero. and alan shearer says he's up there with the best. _ aguero told of the news yesterday, his contract wont be renewed at the end of the season. widely regarded as one of the greatest premier league strikers. a club legend who played a major part in the club's rebuild into a globalforce. he's city's record goal—scorer and could bow out with more silverware, with pep's side still fighting on four fronts. his stats speak for themselves. a record 257 goals. four premier league titles, including that dramatic winner against qpr back in 2012. one fa cup, five league cups as well. he follows a number of club legends out the door in recent seasons. he'll have a statue erected of him at the stadium. at 32, former team—mate micah richards feels he could have stayed on. the premier league might be too physicalfor him right now and the demands that pep needs from his players, that might be the reason he won't. but you're telling me if aguero�*s fit, fully fit, even at the age of 33, for next season, that he can't score 15, 20, 25 goals in a season? of course he can. he has still got so much talent, even though he has been on the periphery of manchester season this season —— manchester city this season. how to tackle racist abuse online? the wales captain gareth bale says he'd join a boycott of social media. the former arsenal and france striker thierry henry quit all platforms in response to the lack of action from social media companies to tackle the issue. two of bales' team—mates were racially abused on instagram after wales beat mexico on saturday. if everybody did it at once, maybe notjust one or two people, but if we had kind of a campaign where a lot of big influential people in sport, in otherforms of life, came off social media to make this statement, then yeah, i definitely think it could help. one of those players, rabbi matondo, won't feature in their world cup qualifier against the czech republic later. he's been released from the squad, along with hal robson—kanu and tyler roberts, after they breached team protocols. wales lost their opening match against belgium and face a czech side stitting at the top of their group. the republic of ireland manager stephen kenny says he'll back his players if they want to make a stand against human rights abuses in qatar as they play the gulf state in a friendly in hungary later. denmark, norway, germany and the netherlands have all protested over labour conditions faced by migrant workers, with a recent study claiming 6,500 had died in the ten years since qatar was named as host of the 2022 world cup. is it the handing out of the world cup initially? is that the problem, to qatar, or should teams refuse to go and players refuse to play? those are different matters. it's a broader picture in sport. what other countries do you pick and say, you can't do that, so it is a very, very complex issue and something that needs a wider debate, maybe. one of next month's fa cup semifinals will be used to pilot the return of fans to sporting venues. we don't know which one yet, a maxiumum of 4,000 spectators from the local area will be invited to wembley, rather than travelling fans from any of the teams. and jofra archer's not having much luck with injuries. we now know what caused his hand injury. he was cut when a fish tank he was cleaning smashed. that was in january, before he went on the tour of india, and although he managed to play, he had surgery yesterday to remove a small piece of glass from his finger. this he'd already returned home early for treatment on an elbow injury, and he'll miss the start of the indian premier league on friday week. . it's got to be up there with the more unusual injuries, right? one of my favourites, david james, the former england goalkeeper, strained his back reaching for the remote control. ., , ., ., , ., control. there was another guy, a goalkeeper _ control. there was another guy, a goalkeeper dropped _ control. there was another guy, a goalkeeper dropped a _ control. there was another guy, a goalkeeper dropped a bottle - control. there was another guy, a goalkeeper dropped a bottle of. control. there was another guy, a i goalkeeper dropped a bottle of salad cream _ goalkeeper dropped a bottle of salad cream on— goalkeeper dropped a bottle of salad cream on their foot. that goalkeeper dropped a bottle of salad cream on their foot.— cream on their foot. that is a good one. and cream on their foot. that is a good one- and rio _ cream on their foot. that is a good one. and rio ferdinand _ cream on their foot. that is a good one. and rio ferdinand paying - cream on their foot. that is a good one. and rio ferdinand paying to i one. and rio ferdinand paying to much playstation? b, one. and rio ferdinand paying to much playstation?— one. and rio ferdinand paying to much playstation? a hand in'ury? cleanin: a much playstation? a hand in'ury? cleaning a fish i much playstation? a hand in'ury? cleaning a fish tank * much playstation? a hand in'ury? cleaning a fish tank is i much playstation? a hand in'ury? cleaning a fish tank is quite h much playstation? a hand injury? | cleaning a fish tank is quite niche. it must have been very niggling pain. it it must have been very niggling ain. ,., , it must have been very niggling ain, , ., , , ., it must have been very niggling ain. , ., , it must have been very niggling pain. it sounds so made up, some of them! clearly — pain. it sounds so made up, some of them! clearly a _ pain. it sounds so made up, some of them! clearly a little _ pain. it sounds so made up, some of them! clearly a little bit _ pain. it sounds so made up, some of them! clearly a little bit of— pain. it sounds so made up, some of them! clearly a little bit of glass - them! clearly a little bit of glass aot them! clearly a little bit of glass not in them! clearly a little bit of glass got in there _ them! clearly a little bit of glass got in there and _ them! clearly a little bit of glass got in there and he _ them! clearly a little bit of glass got in there and he didn't - them! clearly a little bit of glass l got in there and he didn't realise. at least we have cleared that up. i'm sure he would get a good ribbing from his team—mates for that one as well. we will promise you all sorts of fabulous things on the programme today, lenny henry at 7:30am, and now carol kirkwood with some promise of some sunshine! indeed, but not for everyone! of course! i don't _ indeed, but not for everyone! of course! i don't want _ indeed, but not for everyone! of course! i don't want to _ indeed, but not for everyone! of course! i don't want to give - indeed, but not for everyone! of course! i don't want to give a - indeed, but not for everyone! of l course! i don't want to give a false impression — course! i don't want to give a false impression of _ course! i don't want to give a false impression of the _ course! i don't want to give a false impression of the weather! - course! i don't want to give a false impression of the weather! but - course! i don't want to give a false i impression of the weather! but there is sunshine in the forecast. this morning there is mist and frost especially in southern areas, a bit of fog which will lift, but for england and wales there will be sunshine. for scotland and northern ireland, a bit more cloud and persistent rain across the north—west of scotland. that is what is happening in the first half of the week. later this week it will turn much colder, overnight frost and some wintriness in the forecast. this weather front today producing some rain across the far north of scotland, behind this eventually we will start to see colder air coming in but high—pressure firmly in charge. high—pressure based across the continent. sunshine for england and wales today, and in northern ireland and scotland it will be cloud braking to allow some sunnis —— sunny skies. there is the risk of localised flooding in the very north of scotland, though. gusty winds in the west will ease through the day. top temperature, 11 degrees, eight in lerwick, and progressively south it gets higher, 23 in london. the average of this time of year north to south is around 9—13. still this weather front across the north of the country slipping southwards through the night, bringing rain into scotland and northern ireland, also some cloud lapping on show from the irish sea. not as cold night in southern areas as the night that has just gone. into tomorrow, this weather front is still slipping southwards. behind it to the cold air starts to feed in, wintry showers mostly on high ground. across england and wales, we are looking at it again another fair day with decent sunshine but still the cloud across northern ireland, getting on across scotland with rain, it is weakening all the time. a bit more cloud coming in from the irish sea into the south—west and through the day, sunshine will turn hazy. you could notice some saharan desert dust coming your way as well. temperatures on wednesday, 22 or 23 in the south—east but further north, already in colder air so only five in laverick, ten in aberdeen. —— five in lerwick. by the time we get to thursday, the weather front is still coming southwards, still some cloud and the odd spot of rain on it. a bit of cloud across the northern half of the country, generally, the south will hang on to some clearer skies. here, still, the temperature hanging on, 18 to 22, but much colderfurther temperature hanging on, 18 to 22, but much colder further north. highs of seven for example in stornoway. as we head into the easter weekend, it is going to turn colder, particularly the second half of the easter weekend. thank you very much, i was making notes. , , ., , , notes. did you get the desert dust? i'm all over — notes. did you get the desert dust? i'm all over it. _ notes. did you get the desert dust? i'm all over it. it _ notes. did you get the desert dust? i'm all over it. it will— notes. did you get the desert dust? i'm all over it. it will be _ notes. did you get the desert dust? i'm all over it. it will be all- notes. did you get the desert dust? i'm all over it. it will be all over- i'm all over it. it will be all over soon. thank you, carol. it's one of the uk's most popular tourist destinations, and now it's becoming an increasingly sought after place to live. 0h, oh, my goodness! 0k, oh, my goodness! ok, i oh, my goodness! 0k, isee oh, my goodness! ok, i see the point! record numbers of people are moving to cornwall to seek a new life by the sea. john maguire is there for us this morning. so we are putting you to down as potential house buyers along the british coastline, especially in the south—west? you canjust see british coastline, especially in the south—west? you can just see the sun is about to pop up. beautiful day, we are in falmouth, standing on the prince of wales pier, jutting out into the river, you canjust see prince of wales pier, jutting out into the river, you can just see the port behind me, some of the lights are starting to come on. a few boats moving around as daily life starts to swing into action. what we have seen, driven by the pandemic especially over the last year, is a huge increase for demand in requests for people looking for property in devon and cornwall. important to say, this is in a second home situation, a holiday home situation, it is people who want to pack up the boxes, the kids, the hamster and the dog and move their life lock stock and barrel either to the countryside or to the coast. so what kind of effect has it been having? we have been finding out. it's long been a hotspot for holiday—makers, but increasingly cornwall is now a hotspot for house—buyers. not second homeowners, but people who want to live here all year round. it's a bit awkward, isn't it, trying to dodge each other all the time! paul and jill rafter are moving down from bristol. so, you've got utility room in there. but with such high demand for homes, there's stiff competition and they fear being priced out of the market. from a location point of view, this is ideal for us. yeah. we love the sea, we love being by it, in it, on it. so, you know, it'sjust an ideal place for us to live. so, yeah, we really want to move down here but it, it's difficult because, you know, some people have got crazy money and we are not in that situation. we want to move down here, we need to sell our house, we want to make a life here and, you know, so wejust have to wait and see. 0h, here is one of them. hi, darling. and the plan is forjill�*s two daughters and their family to move here as well. here we go, what do you think of this? emma ward is an estate agent based on the north coast in st agnes. she says sometimes people will buy houses without seeing them in person. and it gives you the sort of opportunity to do something major to it, doesn't it? and prices are rising. we're having properties that are going way above the asking price. having to go into a best and final offer situation, where we wouldn't have had that every day before. is there enough property? no, absolutely not! we need more property. this is the old victorian schoolhouse in st agnes. and more than 20 years ago, i rented and lived in a flat here. during that period of time, the village has changed hugely. more businesses, more people, far more houses. but the last 12 months has seen a real accelerated pace of change due to the pandemic. cornwall�*s reputation for wild beauty is well deserved but economically, this isn't a rich county. an influx of investment is welcome, but there are concerns that higher prices paid by new arrivals will put prices out of reach for many local people. we welcome people wanting to come and live here, work here and contribute to the economy and vitality of the place. the problem is, though, it is depriving many of the local population, particularly the younger population, who want to stay here and thrive in cornwall, from becoming part of the community. it's tending to force them out somewhat. this is the old vicarage flats where we are proposing to turn, renovate four flats... and those working to create more affordable homes say it's important that there is a variety of housing available. the housing market is unaffordable for people here now. people earning 18, £20,000, they're never going to get onto the property ladder when average prices are around about 350,000 and more. and then that also reflects back into the rental market. so the unaffordability of renting too becomes an issue for local people as they grow up. the pandemic has changed much about the way we live our lives now and for many people it's the catalyst that will persuade them to make the leap and change their lives forever. good morning, jane, from live beside the sea. view source that these four people, relocate families, how busy is it now, busiest ever? i people, relocate families, how busy is it now, busiest ever?— is it now, busiest ever? i have been in the business _ is it now, busiest ever? i have been in the business for _ is it now, busiest ever? i have been in the business for 30 _ is it now, busiest ever? i have been in the business for 30 years - is it now, busiest ever? i have been in the business for 30 years and i i in the business for 30 years and i have never seen it this busy. it's just a backlog because when the first lockdown was lifted, people were sort of thinking about their lives, thinking about what was important, realise they can work from home on the laptop and they want their children to be safe so they want places like cornwall where you have fresh air, beaches, bigger gardens. one of the most important things you want a home office, and often husband and wife as well so very busy. i often husband and wife as well so ve bus. , , , very busy. i suppose the biggest challenae very busy. i suppose the biggest challenge is _ very busy. i suppose the biggest challenge is supply, _ very busy. i suppose the biggest challenge is supply, the - very busy. i suppose the biggest challenge is supply, the right i challenge is supply, the right amount of property and the variety of property. amount of property and the variety of property-— of property. exactly, the thing that has happened _ of property. exactly, the thing that has happened is — of property. exactly, the thing that has happened is there _ of property. exactly, the thing that has happened is there is _ of property. exactly, the thing that has happened is there is not i of property. exactly, the thing that. has happened is there is not enough property coming to the market, demand as far outstripping supply. people don't want the stuff that was on before lockdown, they want the things that are just popping up on the property alerts. you will have six people fighting for it so you go full price or over asking price. there aren't more sales going on, it isjust a dam there aren't more sales going on, it is just a dam that has been best with this massive backlog. isjust a dam that has been best with this massive backlog. thank you so much indeed. _ with this massive backlog. thank you so much indeed. a _ with this massive backlog. thank you so much indeed. a bit _ with this massive backlog. thank you so much indeed. a bit like _ with this massive backlog. thank you so much indeed. a bit like the i with this massive backlog. thank you so much indeed. a bit like the suez l so much indeed. a bit like the suez canal, i shouldn't laugh at my own joke, sorry about that! a glorious morning this morning, we will talk to you later, get some more sun and see it in its full glory. it is worth repeating, there are serious undercurrents as well, it's notjust about sun, sea, surf, and ice cream, cornwall has other issues and this is an issue that needs to be addressed properly and have an approach that makes sure that as many people as possible are looked after and obviously that there are the right amount of houses available. thank you so much. it looks glorious there. , ., , thank you so much. it looks glorious there. , . , . ., ., thank you so much. it looks glorious there. , there. yes, as john was saying, some deep issues — there. yes, as john was saying, some deep issues to — there. yes, as john was saying, some deep issues to be _ there. yes, as john was saying, some deep issues to be resolved, _ there. yes, as john was saying, some deep issues to be resolved, and i there. yes, as john was saying, some deep issues to be resolved, and we i deep issues to be resolved, and we are just looking at one of those this morning, john is having a wider discussion about housing in cornwall and how it affects various people. jane talking about the availability of homes that people are fighting over. �* , . , of homes that people are fighting over. ~ , . , ., , of homes that people are fighting over. ,., ., over. and prices going up all the time. a over. and prices going up all the time- a big _ over. and prices going up all the time. a big change _ over. and prices going up all the time. a big change yesterday. i the easing of some restrictions in england was a significant day for many of us yesterday, as for the first time this year, and in some cases the first time ever, family and friends were finally brought together. among them were barbara and arthur simper, who we first met last december, when they were two of the first people in the world to get the vaccine. yesterday they met their new great—grandchild in person for the first time. brea kfast�*s graham satchell was there. 0h, isn't that lovely? and there they are together, nola and lila. cute, aren't they? lockdown has been hard for barbara and arthur. look at that. snug as a bug in a rug. they haven't been able to see their two great grandchildren, lila, a toddler, and nola, who's just two weeks old. it's been difficult having a great grandchild that i haven't been able to hold or touch or anything. and the other one, i saw her when she was just first—born, and for a few months i could see her and hold her and now, she's a stranger. barbara's getting ready for the first visit in months. we'll have biscuits, shall we, arthur? it's a day for the best china. the easing restrictions in england, a chance at last for the families to reunite. are you nervous? no, no, ijust want to have it done. i'd rather have this done than get the actual covid—19. we first met barbara and arthur in december last year. they were among the best people in the world to get the new vaccine. we can now speak, delighted to say, to barbara and arthur simper- whojoin us from their home in bletchlex _ we have been following the whole family on this programme. what would you like to say i to your lovely grandparents? 0h, ijust, you know, we both love you so much and it's so exciting for us to know that you guys are on the path to getting back to some kind of normality a lot sooner than expected, and we just can't wait to see you properly and give you that hug we have been waiting for for so long. here they are! hello, lila! there they are, look! it's your great nanny and great grandad. hello, lila! hello, gorgeous girl! aren't you gorgeous? this is such sweet agony. social distancing rules means they can look, but they can't touch. you all right, nan? oh, this is awful. that's what happens in lockdown, longer hair and a new baby. aw, virtual hugs, nan, virtual hugs. virtual hug, no real ones, though. not long, we are on the path. we're on the path to get there very soon. it's your new great—granddaughter. yeah, i know. and i can't hold her, i can't touch her. no windows this time, no windows, so we're getting closer, step—by—step, we're getting there. it's hard for barbara and arthur, the whole family. but nothing a good cup of tea can't fix. she said her first three syllable word. did she? what did she say? kangaroo. barbara's family have stuck closely to the rules all the way through this pandemic and there is a real hope here that we may have turned the corner. if it carries on like this, and we're going in the right direction, it won't be long until you can put her arms around herand give hera hug. and lila. and lila as well. gorgeous, aren't you? aren't you a gorgeous girl? i mean, look at her little face, she's so gorgeous. they both are. just to see them, you know, properly, to see... instead of through a car window or an ordinary window. it's lovelyjust to see them here, sitting here in my garden. yeah, it's quite emotional, really. big! big fish, yeah. can you see a duck? big duck! big duck, yeah. it's the simple ordinary things that people have missed so much. family visits, great grandchildren exploring the garden. do you want to say goodbye? bye—bye, blow kisses. 0h, bless her! see you soon! this scene will be repeated in back gardens across the uk this week as restrictions are gradually lifted. it is a hopeful step towards normality. bye—bye, lila! she waves to the last. graham satchell, bbc news. 0h, oh, it's hard, isn't it? is that even harder— oh, it's hard, isn't it? is that even harder to _ oh, it's hard, isn't it? is that even harder to have - oh, it's hard, isn't it? is that even harder to have them i oh, it's hard, isn't it? is that even harder to have them in | oh, it's hard, isn't it? is that i even harder to have them in the garden are not being able to pick the baby up? figs garden are not being able to pick the baby up?— garden are not being able to pick thebab u? a ,. . . the baby up? as graham said, that will be happening _ the baby up? as graham said, that will be happening all _ the baby up? as graham said, that will be happening all over- the baby up? as graham said, that will be happening all over england | will be happening all over england this week as people gather in back gardens for the first time in a long time. you can see how hard it was for barbara and arthur to see their great—grandchildren and not step in. that's the rule. ilime great-grandchildren and not step in. that's the rule.— that's the rule. one day soon, hopefully- _ that's the rule. one day soon, hopefully. send _ that's the rule. one day soon, hopefully. send us _ that's the rule. one day soon, hopefully. send us your- that's the rule. one day soon, i hopefully. send us your pictures of any reunions _ hopefully. send us your pictures of any reunions you _ hopefully. send us your pictures of any reunions you had _ hopefully. send us your pictures of any reunions you had yesterday, i hopefully. send us your pictures of| any reunions you had yesterday, we really want to share them today because it is just time for a bit of change, a definite shift. i because it isjust time for a bit of change, a definite shift.- because it isjust time for a bit of change, a definite shift. i hope so, ou can change, a definite shift. i hope so, you can e-mail_ change, a definite shift. i hope so, you can e-mail us _ change, a definite shift. i hope so, you can e-mail us and _ change, a definite shift. i hope so, you can e-mail us and also - change, a definite shift. i hope so, you can e-mail us and also get i change, a definite shift. i hope so, i you can e-mail us and also get them you can e—mail us and also get them to us on social media. time now to get the news, travel and weather where you are. good morning, i'm asad ahmad. police searching for a 24—year—old man who was mistakenly released from wormwood scrubs prison in west london, have issued new images to help find him. william fernandez was on remand, awaiting trial for sexual assault. the prison mistakenly freed last wednesday, when it's thought he went to get the tube from east acton station. he was last seen in harrow. police are appealing for information about his whereabouts. lawyers for victims of the grenfell fire have accused kensington and chelsea council, who owned the tower block, of "neglect, indifference and discrimination" towards residents. the inquiry into the 2017 fire, which killed 72 people, heard claims that residents who raised safety concerns before the tragedy, were bullied and stigmatised. the claims are denied by building managers and the council. a london mental health charity says pregnant women and new mothers are three times more likely to suffer poor mental health in the wake of the coronavirus pandemic. the maternal mental health alliance found gaps in health services which led to greater anxiety among a majority of new mums, who've given birth over the past year. the alliance is looking at providing more support to mothers, like former masterchef winner and nhs doctor. i remember being in the room and everybody was looking after me and saying, "are you 0k, are you 0k?" and i wanted to cry, but i was so excited that my baby was coming into the world that i had to control those emotions and those tears. and just look forward and positively to the arrival of this baby, you know. let's take a look at the travel situation now. the hammersmith and city line has severe delays because of train cancellations. a lane is closed for gas works in both directions on great chertsey road, as you head to and from the hospital bridge roundabout. a lane is closed for traffic light repairs a on finborough road one way street at the junction with old brompton road. and a lane is closed on the a3 for engineering works towards putney. now the weather with kate. good morning. yesterday we saw the warmest day of the year so far, stjames's park got up to 20.1! celsius. and today it is set to get a little warmer. chile starts this morning, temperatures for most down in single figures. but it's a bright start, plenty of sunshine, the wind is light today and we're looking at a maximum temperature of 23 celsius. overnight tonight, again, clear skies. temperatures dropping perhaps not quite as low as last night but quite wide—ranging. we are looking at a minimum out towards parts of essex and the east around four celsius, whereas central london staying somewhere around ten celsius. for tomorrow, it's another warm day. we are hanging on to the warm air, and a similar for thursday as well. but notice restarts to just see that colder moving south as we head through thursday and into friday. so temperatures, low 20s for the next couple of days, come friday, quite a dramatic temperature drop, just in time, of course, for the easter weekend. i'm back with the latest from the bbc london newsroom in half an hour. bye for now. good morning, welcome to breakfast with sally nugent and dan walker. our headlines today: what caused the coronavirus outbreak? a long awaited report from the world health organisation is published today, as world leaders call for an international treaty to deal with future pandemics. calls for an independent inquiry following an outpouring of complaints about sexual misconduct in schools. we don't want you to get sick. we don't want you to die. and when your turn comes, take the jab. dozens of high profile stars join a campaign by sir lenny henry, urging people from black communities to get the covid vaccine. good morning. one of the premier league's greatest strikers, sergio aguero, manchester city's record goalscorer, will leave the club at the end of the season, but wants to win more titles before he goes. good morning. yesterday was the warmest day of the year so far. today is likely to be won at still. a lot of sunshine across england and wales. northern ireland and scotland have more clout and persistent rain in the north—west of scotland. details later. good morning. it's tuesday, the 30th of march. our top story. covid—19 is likely to have been passed to humans from bats through another animal — that's according to a long awaited report from the world health organization into how the pandemic started. the study — seen by the bbc ahead of its publication this afternoon — also dismisses claims that the virus escaped from a laboratory in china as "extremely unlikely". aru na iyenga reports. this eagerly awaited report has faced setbacks and diplomatic wrangling. experts from the who had trouble even getting into wuhan, the city at the centre of the initial outbreak of covid—19. investigations finally started in january this year, more than a year after the first cases emerged. key findings of the experts' report are that covid—19 passed from bats, through an intermediary animal, to humans. but it doesn't offer definitive answers on the mystery at the very heart of the pandemic — how the virus first jumped to humans. and the theory that the virus was released via a laboratory incident in china, is considered extremely unlikely. of course, i will have more to say following further review and understanding of the report. but for now, all hypotheses will be on the table and will need further study. although the wuhan food market was initially thought to be where the outbreak began, who and chinese scientists found evidence that the virus could have been circulating for some weeks before december 2019, and some of those infected had no connection with the market. it comes as the prime minister, borisjohnson, joins a group of more than 20 world leaders calling for a new international treaty to help the world deal with future pandemics. they say coronavirus has posed the biggest challenge to the global community since the 1940s, and countries must be better prepared in the future. the covid—19 pandemic has killed almost 2.8 million people worldwide. it's hoped the report's findings will give some clearer answers on how the virus came about. aruna iyengar, bbc news. let's get more on this story now from our correspondent imogen foulkes, who's in geneva this morning. good morning. imogen, you've seen this report — how many questions does it answer? well, it answers some of the big question— well, it answers some of the big question is, but all the questions with a _ question is, but all the questions with a lot — question is, but all the questions with a lot of caveats. as you said in your— with a lot of caveats. as you said in your report, it's highly likely that_ in your report, it's highly likely that the — in your report, it's highly likely that the covid—19 started in bats, ended _ that the covid—19 started in bats, ended up— that the covid—19 started in bats, ended up with us, but somewhere in between _ ended up with us, but somewhere in between there is another animal. and that is— between there is another animal. and that is still, _ between there is another animal. and that is still, as you said, that a mystery — that is still, as you said, that a mystery. that really requires further — mystery. that really requires further investigation, notjust mystery. that really requires further investigation, not just to find out — further investigation, not just to find out which animal it was, there is speculation katz, minx, possibly pangolins — is speculation katz, minx, possibly pangolins. but also the incident in which _ pangolins. but also the incident in which the — pangolins. but also the incident in which the species jumping pangolins. but also the incident in which the speciesjumping happened. that is— which the speciesjumping happened. that is where you start to get every dangerous — that is where you start to get every dangerous situation, where you have a virus _ dangerous situation, where you have a virus that— dangerous situation, where you have a virus that has lived relatively happily— a virus that has lived relatively happily in— a virus that has lived relatively happily in a particular species, not causing _ happily in a particular species, not causing a — happily in a particular species, not causing a lot of illness in that species. _ causing a lot of illness in that species, jumps, possibly mutates a bit, species, jumps, possibly mutates a bit. into— species, jumps, possibly mutates a bit, into another species, us, where we have _ bit, into another species, us, where we have never had it before, we have no defences— we have never had it before, we have no defences for it at all, we don't even _ no defences for it at all, we don't even come — no defences for it at all, we don't even come to begin with, have the sequence — even come to begin with, have the sequence of it, we have no treatment or vaccine _ sequence of it, we have no treatment or vaccine for— sequence of it, we have no treatment or vaccine for it. so obviously, as we see _ or vaccine for it. so obviously, as we see a — or vaccine for it. so obviously, as we see a year— or vaccine for it. so obviously, as we see a year later, an incredibly difficult _ we see a year later, an incredibly difficult situation which has disrupted the whole world. so we need _ disrupted the whole world. so we need more answers about that. imagine. — need more answers about that. imagine, thank you very much indeed. imogen foulkes in geneva. in the us, witnesses have given powerful testimonies of the final moments of the life of george floyd, on the opening day of the trial of the former police officer accused of his murder. prosecutors showed the jury video footage of derek chauvin kneeling on mr floyd's neck for more than nine minutes. he denies the charges against him. our correspondent, lebo diseko sent this report from minneapolis. let's all say, i do. i do. thank you, you may be seated. derek chauvin facing a jury of his peers. the central question for both sides in this case, what caused george floyd's death? we are going to ask that you find him guilty. the prosecution says it was chauvin kneeling on his neck for nine minutes and 29 seconds. on may 25 of 2020, mr derek chauvin betrayed his badge, when he used excessive and unreasonable force upon the body of mr george floyd. counsel, mr chauvin... the defence argued that the officers were facing an increasingly hostile crowd, distracting them from mr floyd's care. his death, they said, was the result of drug use and poor health. the evidence will show that mr floyd died of a cardiac arrhythmia that i occurred as a result - of hypertension, his coronary disease, the ingestion _ of methamphetamine and fentanyl and the adrenaline flowing - through his body, all of which acted to further compromise - an already compromised heart. among the opening day's witnesses a 9/11 dispatch worker who was watching the arrest by a police camera. she was so alarmed by what she saw, that she rang the officer's supervisor. this is the most high—profile police brutality case to be tried in the us for decades. race isn't being mentioned in court, but its significance is inescapable. people across this country and the world are watching what happens here closely. lebo diseko, bbc news, minneapolis. police in london are appealing for help in tracing a teenager who has been missing for a week. richard okorogheye, who is 19, was last seen leaving his home in west london. his family say the student had been struggling to cope with university. just coming up to 11 minutes past seven. you are watching breakfast. carol has a look at the weather. good morning. good morning. yesterday was the warmest day of this year so far. 20.1! celsius was recorded in writtle in essex and st james' park in london. today it could be warmer. a lot of sunshine around. particularly for england and wales. it is wet still in the north—west of scotland. that rain will push further north, getting into shetland through the course of the day. here, the winds will ease. more cloud in the rest of scotland and northern ireland, breaking at times to allow sunshine. after early morning mist, some fog patches across england and wales, it will brighten up nicely. many starting with sunshine. temperatures responding. we could get up to 23 celsius. we have not seen that since march 2012, in march, and not in march since 1968 before that. it is not very common. through this evening and overnight, still some clear skies. this weather front bringing the rain across scotland and northern ireland weakens and sinks further south. colder area exam behind it. temperature wise, not as cold in southern areas as last night. still looking at temperatures of seven to nine in the north. tomorrow, we still have this weather front. north. tomorrow, we still have this weatherfront. moving north. tomorrow, we still have this weather front. moving further south into northern ireland taking its rain with it. wintry showers following behind, mostly in the hills. a lot of sunshine across england and wales, more cloud coming in from the irish sea at times. temperatures are still high in the south for the time of the year. thank you, carol. see you for a full forecast in half an hour. more than 9,000 current and former students have so far spoken out about the sexual abuse they've experienced at schools across the uk. for weeks now, anonymous testimonies have been posted on the website everyone's invited, with allegations of rape, sexism and assault seemingly commonplace. the government has described the allegations as "shocking and abhorrent", and said a helpline will be set up for victims. we can speak now to the conservative chair of the education select committee, robert halfon. thank you for being with us. some of the testimonies are truly shocking. how concerned are you by the scale of these allegations?— of these allegations? well, it is re of these allegations? well, it is pretty grim _ of these allegations? well, it is pretty grim iust _ of these allegations? well, it is pretty grim just reading - of these allegations? well, it is| pretty grim just reading through of these allegations? well, it is i pretty grim just reading through the everyone's invited website. your heart _ everyone's invited website. your heart goes — everyone's invited website. your heart goes out to all the people who have suffered the abuse, the sexual harassment, the threats, the abuse on online _ harassment, the threats, the abuse on online social media. and i do think— on online social media. and i do think that — on online social media. and i do think that there is a law that the culture — think that there is a law that the culture engulfed in some of our schools— culture engulfed in some of our schools in— culture engulfed in some of our schools in our country. what needs to happen — schools in our country. what needs to happen is — schools in our country. what needs to happen is an urgent independent enquiry— to happen is an urgent independent enquiry to— to happen is an urgent independent enquiry to overhaul safeguarding procedures because clearly they are not fit _ procedures because clearly they are not fit for _ procedures because clearly they are not fit for purpose. the helpline that has — not fit for purpose. the helpline that has been announced, i have been calling _ that has been announced, i have been calling for. _ that has been announced, i have been calling for, has got to be permanent, notjust for calling for, has got to be permanent, not just for current victims. — permanent, not just for current victims, but for students who are able to— victims, but for students who are able to access report and confide with, _ able to access report and confide with. and — able to access report and confide with, and now that action will be taken _ with, and now that action will be taken and — with, and now that action will be taken. and the schools involved should — taken. and the schools involved should immediately implement a system _ should immediately implement a system of providing counselling for past and _ system of providing counselling for past and present victims as well. so they can _ past and present victims as well. so they can he — past and present victims as well. so they can be helped both with their mentai— they can be helped both with their mental health, their well—being, and .et mental health, their well—being, and get all— mental health, their well—being, and get all the _ mental health, their well—being, and get all the support they need. in 2016, get all the support they need. 2016, five get all the support they need. in 2016, five years ago, the women inequalities committee warned about, and they said levels of sexual harassment and violence at schools in england. i was nothing done then? why didn't the government act at the time? figs why didn't the government act at the time? �* , why didn't the government act at the time? . . , . time? as i understand it, the government _ time? as i understand it, the government did _ time? as i understand it, the government did issue - time? as i understand it, the i government did issue guidance to schools _ government did issue guidance to schools. that was following that report — schools. that was following that report. but it clearly, it has not worked — report. but it clearly, it has not worked and it has not been enough. one of— worked and it has not been enough. one of the _ worked and it has not been enough. one of the problems is that different schools have different safeguarding inspection regimes. so the independent schools, some of them _ the independent schools, some of them have — the independent schools, some of them have their own inspection body. ofsted _ them have their own inspection body. ofsted does safeguarding inspections, but only when they inspect— inspections, but only when they inspect schools formally. we need to consider _ inspect schools formally. we need to consider not just inspect schools formally. we need to consider notjust an inspect schools formally. we need to consider not just an overhaul of scaife _ consider not just an overhaul of scaife -- — consider not just an overhaul of scaife —— safeguarding rules, but perhaps— scaife —— safeguarding rules, but perhaps more regular inspections in terms _ perhaps more regular inspections in terms of— perhaps more regular inspections in terms of safeguarding. we also have to ask— terms of safeguarding. we also have to ask the _ terms of safeguarding. we also have to ask the deeper questions as well. why is— to ask the deeper questions as well. why is it _ to ask the deeper questions as well. why is it that song, and i stress somei _ why is it that song, and i stress some, because most boys behave impeccably, but why is it is that some _ impeccably, but why is it is that some ltoys— impeccably, but why is it is that some boys are arriving at school with attitudes that don't treat female — with attitudes that don't treat female students with the dignity and respect _ female students with the dignity and respect and equality that they deserve? what is going on in our society? — deserve? what is going on in our society? we need to look at the role of social— society? we need to look at the role of social media as well. i have had .irls of social media as well. i have had girls tell— of social media as well. i have had girls tell me that they have been abused _ girls tell me that they have been abused on social media groups with horrific— abused on social media groups with horrific language, sexual language, being _ horrific language, sexual language, being used. there should be algorithms from the social media companies monitoring these large group _ companies monitoring these large group chats, especially when young women _ group chats, especially when young women are — group chats, especially when young women are threatened in this way. on that women are threatened in this way. that issue, women are threatened in this way. on that issue, simon bailey, the national police chiefs council lead on child protection, he speaks about the volume of pornographic material available and says there is an erosion of what a normal sexual relationship looks like. how can that be policed? how can that be addressed?— addressed? well, these are the difficult questions _ addressed? well, these are the difficult questions that - addressed? well, these are the difficult questions that i - addressed? well, these are the difficult questions that i hope i addressed? well, these are the | difficult questions that i hope an independent enquiry would answer. it isn'tiust_ independent enquiry would answer. it isn'tjust pornography independent enquiry would answer. it isn't just pornography sites, independent enquiry would answer. it isn'tjust pornography sites, but if you go— isn'tjust pornography sites, but if you go onto social media sites, young — you go onto social media sites, young people can go on it, there doesn't — young people can go on it, there doesn't seem to be any checks as to who can _ doesn't seem to be any checks as to who can access these sites and they can see _ who can access these sites and they can see almost anything and everything. and clearly, that must be having — everything. and clearly, that must be having an impact. i really worry about— be having an impact. i really worry about the — be having an impact. i really worry about the impact of social media is having _ about the impact of social media is having on— about the impact of social media is having on children's well—being and mental— having on children's well—being and mental health. i go to school is a lot. mental health. i go to school is a lot i_ mental health. i go to school is a lot iask— mental health. i go to school is a lot. i ask students why they are suffering — lot. i ask students why they are suffering mental health difficulties. and nine times out of ten they— difficulties. and nine times out of ten they say it has got to do with social— ten they say it has got to do with social media. so there needs to be a clear— social media. so there needs to be a clear examination as to what the impact _ clear examination as to what the impact the — clear examination as to what the impact the social media is having —— or having, _ impact the social media is having —— or having, and the social media company— or having, and the social media company needs to talk to the government to deal with these problems. the key point here is that thousands— problems. the key point here is that thousands and thousands of young girls. _ thousands and thousands of young girls, pupils, students, have feared fortheir— girls, pupils, students, have feared fortheirwell—being. girls, pupils, students, have feared for their well—being. they faced for their well— being. they faced sexual— for their well— being. they faced sexual abuse for their well—being. they faced sexual abuse and harassment and a rape culture. we must have the overhaul— rape culture. we must have the overhaul of safeguarding. we must have one _ overhaul of safeguarding. we must have one inspection regime, ofsted, and that— have one inspection regime, ofsted, and that should be more regular. so that the _ and that should be more regular. so that the schools get that safeguarding advice and inspection that they— safeguarding advice and inspection that they need.— safeguarding advice and inspection that they need. robert halfon, good to seak to that they need. robert halfon, good to speak to you- _ that they need. robert halfon, good to speak to you. thank _ that they need. robert halfon, good to speak to you. thank you - that they need. robert halfon, good to speak to you. thank you for i to speak to you. thank you for joining us from your constituency in harlow this morning. we can speak now tojess phillips, shadow minister for safeguarding. morning to you. you are actually part of the committee that led the enquiry into sexual abuse in schools. what did you learn from that and why has nothing changed? look, what i learned from that is that this — look, what i learned from that is that this problem is widescale. that it has— that this problem is widescale. that it has been— that this problem is widescale. that it has been widescale for a long time _ it has been widescale for a long time and — it has been widescale for a long time. and actually, the government doesn't _ time. and actually, the government doesn't even collect data on it, was what _ doesn't even collect data on it, was what was _ doesn't even collect data on it, was what was found by the committee. so actually. _ what was found by the committee. so actually. we _ what was found by the committee. so actually, we had to use a variety of different _ actually, we had to use a variety of different survey sources that said things— different survey sources that said things like a third of 16 to 18—year—old girls had been sexually assaulted — 18—year—old girls had been sexually assaulted. two thirds of girls aged 13 to 21_ assaulted. two thirds of girls aged 13 to 21 said they had been sexually harassed _ 13 to 21 said they had been sexually harassed at school. this was four, five years — harassed at school. this was four, five years ago now, that the government were made aware of this with some _ government were made aware of this with some very strong recommendations, most of which they have done _ recommendations, most of which they have done absolutely nothing about. and i have done absolutely nothing about. and i have _ have done absolutely nothing about. and i have to say, to robert halfon's_ and i have to say, to robert halfon's point in response to that enquiry— halfon's point in response to that enquiry that the government went on to change _ enquiry that the government went on to change the guidance, they absolutely did change the guidance. it absolutely did change the guidance. it wasn't _ absolutely did change the guidance. it wasn't in — absolutely did change the guidance. it wasn't in response to that enquiry _ it wasn't in response to that enquiry. it was in response to the fact a _ enquiry. it was in response to the fact a 13—year—old girl who had been raped _ fact a 13—year—old girl who had been raped in— fact a 13—year—old girl who had been raped in school and put back in the classroom — raped in school and put back in the classroom with her perpetrator, threatened to sue the then secretary of for— threatened to sue the then secretary of for education. that was what made them _ of for education. that was what made them act~ _ of for education. that was what made them act~ so— of for education. that was what made them act. so we put this very firmly on the _ them act. so we put this very firmly on the shoulders of victims to sort out what _ on the shoulders of victims to sort out what the government should have been sorting out. and even after that guidance was reissued, five years— that guidance was reissued, five years ago— that guidance was reissued, five years ago there was one sentence about— years ago there was one sentence about sexual assault in schools within — about sexual assault in schools within the _ about sexual assault in schools within the guidance. when that guidance — within the guidance. when that guidance was reissued, it was found two years— guidance was reissued, it was found two years ago that only 20% of teachers — two years ago that only 20% of teachers had had any training on it or knew— teachers had had any training on it or knew anything about the new guidance — or knew anything about the new guidance. so back then, myself and another— guidance. so back then, myself and another backbench mp wrote to all mps encouraging them to get in touch with all— mps encouraging them to get in touch with all their schools, to get them to take _ with all their schools, to get them to take notice of this new guidance. what _ to take notice of this new guidance. what was _ to take notice of this new guidance. what was the department for education doing? they are not shocked — education doing? they are not shocked and appalled. they have known _ shocked and appalled. they have known this was going on. they have known _ known this was going on. they have known not _ known this was going on. they have known notjust rape culture but rapes _ known notjust rape culture but rapes were happening inside our schools — rapes were happening inside our schools. they have known it for five years _ schools. they have known it for five years. shocked and appalled, gavin williamson, is not good enough. do williamson, is not good enough. dy: you williamson, is not good enough. you feel at williamson, is not good enough. dr? you feel at this point we are now at a tipping point, if you like? is this like a me too moment? i know you are talking about the department for education and responsibility of government, but the difficulty here is, who is going to manage this? schools are in a very difficult position. and perhaps don't always know how to tackle this in the classroom. know how to tackle this in the classroom-— know how to tackle this in the classroom. . �* , . , ,., , classroom. that's absolutely right. we need to — classroom. that's absolutely right. we need to come _ classroom. that's absolutely right. we need to come as _ classroom. that's absolutely right. we need to come as robert - classroom. that's absolutely right. we need to come as robert halfonj we need to come as robert halfon said. _ we need to come as robert halfon said. we _ we need to come as robert halfon said, we need an enquiry to find out exactiy— said, we need an enquiry to find out exactly what is going wrong with the safeguarding in our schools. and why peer on— safeguarding in our schools. and why peer on peer abuse, so often in these _ peer on peer abuse, so often in these cases, teenage boys abusing teenage _ these cases, teenage boys abusing teenage girls, why that has not been considered _ teenage girls, why that has not been considered to be a safeguarding issue _ considered to be a safeguarding issue in— considered to be a safeguarding issue in the same way that if a teacher— issue in the same way that if a teacher was sexually assaulting a child. _ teacher was sexually assaulting a child, that we see some sexual violence — child, that we see some sexual violence as being less than other. although — violence as being less than other. although i — violence as being less than other. although i have to say that under the government child six abuse charging — the government child six abuse charging and convictions by adults to children is also falling. so we are no— to children is also falling. so we are no good at that either. there is are no good at that either. there is a raft— are no good at that either. there is a raft of— are no good at that either. there is a raft of things that need to be done — a raft of things that need to be done we _ a raft of things that need to be done. we need a better inspection regime _ done. we need a better inspection regime. we need to have a proper enquiry _ regime. we need to have a proper enquiry we — regime. we need to have a proper enquiry. we need the government to actually— enquiry. we need the government to actually collect the data. they are not actually currently collecting this data — not actually currently collecting this data anywhere. we know how widescale — this data anywhere. we know how widescale this is because of sites like the _ widescale this is because of sites like the one that we are discussing today— like the one that we are discussing today and — like the one that we are discussing today and also, the girl guides doing — today and also, the girl guides doing enquiries. i is the government not doing _ doing enquiries. i is the government not doing the proper data gathering in this— not doing the proper data gathering in this regard? i not doing the proper data gathering in this regard?— in this regard? i want to put this oint to in this regard? i want to put this point to you- _ in this regard? i want to put this point to you- i— in this regard? i want to put this point to you. i think _ in this regard? i want to put this point to you. i think it _ in this regard? i want to put this point to you. i think it is - in this regard? i want to put this point to you. i think it is an i point to you. i think it is an important point to make. we have heard from lord macdonald, a former dpp, who has or is prosecutors not to confuse obnoxious and unpleasant behaviour with crimes. that's an important decision to make, isn't it? it important decision to make, isn't it? , ., , important decision to make, isn't it? ,., , ., important decision to make, isn't it? , ., , ., ., it? it is, of course, an important distinction _ it? it is, of course, an important distinction to _ it? it is, of course, an important distinction to make. _ it? it is, of course, an important distinction to make. funnily i it? it is, of course, an important i distinction to make. funnily enough, i'm distinction to make. funnily enough, im talking _ distinction to make. funnily enough, i'm talking about girls being raped at school — i'm talking about girls being raped at school and boys being raped at school _ at school and boys being raped at school as — at school and boys being raped at school as well. but of course there is an _ school as well. but of course there is an interesting distinction to make — is an interesting distinction to make. but we shouldn't say that we don't _ make. but we shouldn't say that we don't want — make. but we shouldn't say that we don't want a — make. but we shouldn't say that we don't want a sexual harassment also managed _ don't want a sexual harassment also managed in — don't want a sexual harassment also managed in our schools. it may not reach _ managed in our schools. it may not reach the _ managed in our schools. it may not reach the threshold for criminality, 'ust reach the threshold for criminality, just like _ reach the threshold for criminality, just like in— reach the threshold for criminality, just like in your workplace and in my workplace it might not reach the criminal— my workplace it might not reach the criminal threshold. my workplace it might not reach the criminalthreshold. however, it's still not — criminalthreshold. however, it's still not very pleasant for young .irls still not very pleasant for young girls to — still not very pleasant for young girls to be called a slug and have their— girls to be called a slug and have their bra — girls to be called a slug and have their bra strap pinged or people talking — their bra strap pinged or people talking about what they got up to at the weekend if that is where their value _ the weekend if that is where their value is — the weekend if that is where their value is. that is the kind of culture _ value is. that is the kind of culture in— value is. that is the kind of culture in a school that leads to sexual— culture in a school that leads to sexual violence being tolerated. so whilst _ sexual violence being tolerated. so whilst i _ sexual violence being tolerated. so whilst i don't think that we should be criminalising every single person who makes— be criminalising every single person who makes an inappropriate joke to a woman. _ who makes an inappropriate joke to a woman. i_ who makes an inappropriate joke to a woman. i do— who makes an inappropriate joke to a woman, i do think it should be part of every— woman, i do think it should be part of every single school's disciplinary proceedings. you mentioned — disciplinary proceedings. you mentioned the _ disciplinary proceedings. ym. mentioned the word culture and it is something that was touched on with robert halfon. how important is it and how do we educate children about handling social media, what they see online, what they share and the problem of the vast availability of pornography?— pornography? look, we have a responsibility _ pornography? look, we have a responsibility as _ pornography? look, we have aj responsibility as policymakers, pornography? look, we have a i responsibility as policymakers, and the government has a responsibility to make _ the government has a responsibility to make sure these things are regulated. so to make sure these things are regulated-— to make sure these things are reaulated. . , ., , regulated. so what should they do? for example. _ regulated. so what should they do? for example, there _ regulated. so what should they do? for example, there are _ regulated. so what should they do? for example, there are all - regulated. so what should they do? for example, there are all sorts i regulated. so what should they do? for example, there are all sorts of. for example, there are all sorts of stuff _ for example, there are all sorts of stuff they— for example, there are all sorts of stuff they could be doing to make the kind _ stuff they could be doing to make the kind of online harassment and bullying _ the kind of online harassment and bullying unviable and the companies that are _ bullying unviable and the companies that are allowing that to go on on their— that are allowing that to go on on their platforms, really violent, vicious — their platforms, really violent, vicious stop. i mean, we're not even tackling _ vicious stop. i mean, we're not even tackling the — vicious stop. i mean, we're not even tackling the fact that child pornography, like images of children. _ pornography, like images of children, are being shared around the internet in their thousands every— the internet in their thousands every day _ the internet in their thousands every day. we had not managed to tackle _ every day. we had not managed to tackle that — every day. we had not managed to tackle that. so that, you know, is the tip _ tackle that. so that, you know, is the tip of— tackle that. so that, you know, is the tip of the iceberg. but we need proper— the tip of the iceberg. but we need proper regulation. we had the online harm spell— proper regulation. we had the online harm spell coming forward. we need that you _ harm spell coming forward. we need that you have real teeth and regulation that can say where pornographic sites have these images of people. _ pornographic sites have these images of people, we have some teeth and power— of people, we have some teeth and power to— of people, we have some teeth and power to criminalise these sites and take them _ power to criminalise these sites and take them down. similarly, where patterns _ take them down. similarly, where patterns of— take them down. similarly, where patterns of terrible abuse and online — patterns of terrible abuse and online harm is happening to young people _ online harm is happening to young people through certain sites, the government of half to find a way to have the _ government of half to find a way to have the powers to stop that. like we would — have the powers to stop that. like we would stop it if it happened on the television. like we would try to stop it _ the television. like we would try to stop it if— the television. like we would try to stop it if it— the television. like we would try to stop it if it was happening in our play grants. stop it if it was happening in our play grants-— play grants. jess phillips, thank ou ve play grants. jess phillips, thank you very much- _ for more information and help and support available you can visit the bbc�*s action line at www. bbc.co.uk/actionline with the uk vaccine roll—out continuing at pace, experts are looking for new evidence to indicate its effectiveness against the virus. now it's hoped a new finger prick blood test to detect antibodies will help them do that. more than 30 million people in the uk have now had theirfirstjab. in the past year, 400,000 volunteers have been regularly swabbing their throats and noses to check for coronavirus antibodies. now researchers will be able to take data from the finger prick tests of about 150,000 volunteers to determine vaccine resistance against new strains of the virus. let's speak now to mike tildesley, who's a professor of infectious disease modelling at the university of warwick. thank you very much for being with us this morning. give us an idea of why this will be useful information? 0k, yeah. this is really important because _ 0k, yeah. this is really important because obviously as you have just been _ because obviously as you have just been saying, we have accelerated now about— been saying, we have accelerated now about 30 _ been saying, we have accelerated now about 30 million people with their first doses. what we really need to see is— first doses. what we really need to see is how— first doses. what we really need to see is how effective that is over time _ see is how effective that is over time. what this study does is it tracks— time. what this study does is it tracks people over a period of weeks and essentially looks for antibodies. the blood test will enable — antibodies. the blood test will enable us notjust to look antibodies. the blood test will enable us not just to look for antibodies, but also the production of antibodies from vaccination. it will really— of antibodies from vaccination. it will really give us an idea of an extended — will really give us an idea of an extended period of time really how effective _ extended period of time really how effective these vaccines are across the population. that's why it is really— the population. that's why it is really important as the weeks go on. so it sort— really important as the weeks go on. so it sort of— really important as the weeks go on. so it sort of gives us a window into levels of immunity and how widespread it is in the uk? filth. widespread it is in the uk? oh, absolutely- _ widespread it is in the uk? oh, absolutely. we _ widespread it is in the uk? 0h, absolutely. we need to remember that when these _ absolutely. we need to remember that when these vaccines were first produced _ when these vaccines were first produced at the end of last year, there _ produced at the end of last year, there was— produced at the end of last year, there was quite a lot of uncertainty in terms _ there was quite a lot of uncertainty in terms of— there was quite a lot of uncertainty in terms of how effective they were. and actually the reports we are getting — and actually the reports we are getting out suggests the effectiveness is actually very good, certainly _ effectiveness is actually very good, certainly against the variants that are currently circulating in the uk. but this— are currently circulating in the uk. but this study will help to reinforce that over a period of time — reinforce that over a period of time it— reinforce that over a period of time it is— reinforce that over a period of time. it is also important notjust how effective they are but also how lon- how effective they are but also how long they _ how effective they are but also how long they are effective for. that is something — long they are effective for. that is something else that is really useful about— something else that is really useful about this — something else that is really useful about this study, by tracking the same _ about this study, by tracking the same individuals over a period of time _ same individuals over a period of time you — same individuals over a period of time you can get a sense of how long these _ time you can get a sense of how long these antibodies are detected in the blood _ these antibodies are detected in the blood. �* these antibodies are detected in the blood. . .. these antibodies are detected in the blood. . ., ,., . , , blood. and how important it is this -iece blood. and how important it is this iece in blood. and how important it is this piece in the _ blood. and how important it is this piece in the jigsaw _ blood. and how important it is this piece in the jigsaw of _ blood. and how important it is this piece in the jigsaw of how - blood. and how important it is this piece in the jigsaw of how we i blood. and how important it is this piece in the jigsaw of how we get i blood. and how important it is this| piece in the jigsaw of how we get to live now and continue going back to something a bit more like normal with this virus in the weeks, the months, the years ahead? well, i think it's important _ months, the years ahead? well, i think it's important to _ months, the years ahead? well, i think it's important to recognise i think it's important to recognise with vaccination, we know it is not lifelonq _ with vaccination, we know it is not lifelong. we know these vaccines are not going _ lifelong. we know these vaccines are not going to last forever. but actually — not going to last forever. but actually having an idea of how long they last _ actually having an idea of how long they last it — actually having an idea of how long they last it is important. immunity at some _ they last it is important. immunity at some point will start to wane. at some _ at some point will start to wane. at some point— at some point will start to wane. at some point probably group are going to have _ some point probably group are going to have to— some point probably group are going to have to have repeated vaccination campaigns. — to have to have repeated vaccination campaigns, particularly forthe campaigns, particularly for the elderly— campaigns, particularly forthe elderly and the vulnerable. so if we are sort— elderly and the vulnerable. so if we are sort of— elderly and the vulnerable. so if we are sort of living with covid as it were. _ are sort of living with covid as it were. this — are sort of living with covid as it were, this kind of study really gives— were, this kind of study really gives us— were, this kind of study really gives us a _ were, this kind of study really gives us a sense of how rapidly we might— gives us a sense of how rapidly we might need to think of it vaccinating the population again to maintain _ vaccinating the population again to maintain a — vaccinating the population again to maintain a high level of protection. is it maintain a high level of protection. is it more _ maintain a high level of protection. is it more difficult to get that information, the data on how vaccines affect the older population, is that why this is so important? aha, population, is that why this is so important?— important? a lot of the early studies, the _ important? a lot of the early studies, the trials _ important? a lot of the early studies, the trials that i important? a lot of the early studies, the trials that tend l important? a lot of the early i studies, the trials that tend to happen. — studies, the trials that tend to happen. a _ studies, the trials that tend to happen, a lot of them happened before _ happen, a lot of them happened before the end of the year last year~ — before the end of the year last year~ and _ before the end of the year last year. and they tend to be targeted at slightly— year. and they tend to be targeted at slightly younger people, simply because _ at slightly younger people, simply because it is safer, because if there — because it is safer, because if there are _ because it is safer, because if there are adverse reactions, it needs— there are adverse reactions, it needs to — there are adverse reactions, it needs to be generally healthy people that you _ needs to be generally healthy people that you are testing the vaccines on. that you are testing the vaccines on so— that you are testing the vaccines on. so actually, we have had less evidence — on. so actually, we have had less evidence in— on. so actually, we have had less evidence in terms of how effective they are _ evidence in terms of how effective they are against the elderly. there is nothing — they are against the elderly. there is nothing to suggest they won't be less effective, i hasten to add, but by tracking — less effective, i hasten to add, but by tracking cohorts of people across time it— by tracking cohorts of people across time it gives us much more evident across— time it gives us much more evident across all— time it gives us much more evident across all ages as to how well people — across all ages as to how well people develop antibodies when they are vaccinated. it�*s people develop antibodies when they are vaccinated.— are vaccinated. it's great we have not ou are vaccinated. it's great we have got you wanted — are vaccinated. it's great we have got you wanted eddie _ are vaccinated. it's great we have got you wanted eddie because i i are vaccinated. it's great we have i got you wanted eddie because i know from past interviews one of your areas of expertise is passing the virus from animals to humans. one of the things we have been discussing todayis the things we have been discussing today is the world health organization report today which concludes the virus probably originated in bats but passed through an intermediary animal before then infecting humans. what is the significance of that news? well, i think it's probably not unsurprising to us. we do know that often _ unsurprising to us. we do know that often a _ unsurprising to us. we do know that often a lot— unsurprising to us. we do know that often a lot of our viruses that do affect— often a lot of our viruses that do affect us, — often a lot of our viruses that do affect us, do come from bats. sometimes we have these intermediate hosts, _ sometimes we have these intermediate hosts, where it is easier for 80 transmitted to humans. we saw a similar_ transmitted to humans. we saw a similar thing, actually, ten years a-o similar thing, actually, ten years ago with— similar thing, actually, ten years ago with swine flu. that probably pounce _ ago with swine flu. that probably pounce into insignificance now compared to covid. pigs it was thought— compared to covid. pigs it was thought were an intermediate house. generally— thought were an intermediate house. generally an intermediary virus spreads— generally an intermediary virus spreads in— generally an intermediary virus spreads in birds, but they can leap through— spreads in birds, but they can leap through pigs and are transmitted to humans _ through pigs and are transmitted to humans it— through pigs and are transmitted to humans. it is the sort of things we are looking — humans. it is the sort of things we are looking for and it helps us to inform _ are looking for and it helps us to inform future surveillance procedures to make sure that we are alert for— procedures to make sure that we are alert for any— procedures to make sure that we are alert for any possible evidence of transmission in future so we can ensure _ transmission in future so we can ensure that _ transmission in future so we can ensure that we can't react and hopefully— ensure that we can't react and hopefully avoid another large—scale pandemic— hopefully avoid another large—scale pandemic happening in the future. always _ pandemic happening in the future. always good to talk to you. thank you very much. mike tyldesley joining a slide from coventry. lenny henry coming _ joining a slide from coventry. lenny henry coming in _ joining a slide from coventry. lenny henry coming in the _ joining a slide from coventry. lenny henry coming in the next _ joining a slide from coventry. lenny henry coming in the next few - henry coming in the next few minutes. time now to get the news, travel and weather where you are. good morning, i'm asad ahmad. police searching for a 2k year—old man who was 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weather with kate. good morning. yesterday we saw the warmest day of the year so far, stjames's park got up to 20.a celsius. and today it is set to get a little warmer. chilly start this morning, temperatures for most down in single figures. but it's a bright start, plenty of sunshine, the wind is light today and we're looking at a maximum temperature of 23 celsius. overnight tonight, again, clear skies. temperatures dropping perhaps not quite as low as last night but quite wide—ranging. we are looking at a minimum out towards parts of essex and the east around four celsius, whereas central london staying somewhere around ten celsius. for tomorrow, it's another warm day. we are hanging on to the warm air, and similar for thursday as well. but notice we start to just see that colder air moving south as we head through thursday and into friday. so temperatures, low 20s for the next couple of days, come friday, quite a dramatic temperature drop, just in time, of course, for the easter weekend. i'm back with the latest from the bbc london newsroom in an hour. hello, this is breakfast with sally nugent and dan walker. let's have john let's havejohn here with news, manchester city fans were perhaps expecting this? manchester city fans were perhaps exneeting this?— manchester city fans were perhaps expecting this? yes, he has been a --eriheral expecting this? yes, he has been a peripheral figure _ expecting this? yes, he has been a peripheral figure this _ expecting this? yes, he has been a peripheral figure this season, - expecting this? yes, he has been a peripheral figure this season, with | peripheral figure this season, with injury and illness, but maybe they will have hope that at 32, he would have had one more year. he did give us one of the best moment in premier league history. he us one of the best moment in premier league history-— league history. he gets a statue, thouuh! league history. he gets a statue, though! that's — league history. he gets a statue, though! that's true! _ aguero told of the news yesterday that his contract won't be renewed at the end of the season. widely regarded as one of the greatest premier league strikers, he leaves as city's record goal—scorer, playing a major part in the club's transformation into one of the best in europe. and he could bow out with yet more silverware, even winning that elusive champions league title. his stats say it all. a record 257 goals in 384 appearances. four premier league titles, one fa cup, five league cups as well. there was a brilliant injury time winner in 2012 to give manchester united their first fa cup winner in 2012 to give manchester united theirfirst fa cup in winner in 2012 to give manchester united their first fa cup in years. he follows a number of club legends out the door in recent sesons. he'll have a statue erected of him outside the stadium. but at 32, former team—mate micah richards feels he could have one more season in him. the premier league might be too physicalfor him right now and the demands that pep needs from his players, that might be the reason he won't. but you're telling me if aguero's fit, fully fit, even at the age of 33, for next season, that he can't score 15, 20, 25 goals in a season? of course he can. so many great moments, the commentary when he scored that winner in 2012 was brilliant. we're talking again about online abuse and it seems there's a growing feeling among players past and present that they need to make a major protest. after the former arsenal and france striker thierry henry said he'd quit all social media platforms, wales captain gareth bale said he'd be prepared to join a boycott. two of bale's teammates were racially abused on instagram after they beat mexico on saturday. if everybody did it at once, maybe notjust one or two people, but if we had kind of a campaign where a lot of big influential people in sport, in otherforms of life, came off social media to make this statement, then yeah, i definitely think it could help. the republic of ireland manager stephen kenny says he'll back his players if they want to make a stand against human rights abuses in qatar, as they play the gulf state in a friendly in hungary later. denmark, norway, germany and the netherlands have all protested over labour conditions faced by migrant workers, with a recent study claiming 6,500 had died in the 10 years since qatar was named as host of the 2022 world cup. it's interesting to hear that fifa have said they will not stand in the way of players if they want to make their voices heard and protest on this issue, which allows the players to express their feelings. because that number of workers who have lost their lives is extremely high. extremely worrying. find their lives is extremely high. extremely worrying.- their lives is extremely high. extremely worrying. their lives is extremely high. extremel wor inc. �* ., ., extremely worrying. and on the other issue of terry — extremely worrying. and on the other issue of terry -- _ extremely worrying. and on the other issue of terry -- high-profile - issue of terry —— high—profile sports stars making a stand on a piece received on social media, interesting gareth bale saying that if there was a campaign to get those high—profile players to take a step back and do that, i think that maybe would be a powerful way of tackling it but it's about how widespread you can get that. find it but it's about how widespread you can get that-— can get that. and all players 'oinin: can get that. and all players joining up- _ can get that. and all players joining up- we _ can get that. and all players joining up. we have - can get that. and all players joining up. we have seen . can get that. and all players i joining up. we have seen black can get that. and all players - joining up. we have seen black out on social media before, haven't we? in a way of taking a stand. but it needs to go beyond that. irate in a way of taking a stand. but it needs to go beyond that. we debated this the last time _ needs to go beyond that. we debated this the last time it _ needs to go beyond that. we debated this the last time it happened - needs to go beyond that. we debated this the last time it happened and - needs to go beyond that. we debated this the last time it happened and i i this the last time it happened and i can remember putting this point out there _ can remember putting this point out there and _ can remember putting this point out there and lots of people say, why should _ there and lots of people say, why should anyone have to remove themselves from social media? isn't that letting the bullies when? it's a really— that letting the bullies when? it's a really difficult question. thank— a really difficult question. thank you for that. let's have a look at falmouth this morning. let's have a look at falmouth this morninu. �* , let's have a look at falmouth this morninu. �*, ., ., let's have a look at falmouth this morning—john - let's have a look at falmouth this i morning._ john maguire morning. let's do that. john maguire is there this — morning. let's do that. john maguire is there this morning, _ morning. let's do that. john maguire is there this morning, talking - morning. let's do that. john maguire is there this morning, talking about i is there this morning, talking about people wanting to move to cornwall. there's lots of issues about house prices in cornwall, how that affects people who cannot get on the property ladder, but look at that beautiful shot from falmouth this morning, john is going to be with us this morning later on. you morning, john is going to be with us this morning later on.— this morning later on. you can see why peeple _ this morning later on. you can see why peeple would _ this morning later on. you can see why people would want _ this morning later on. you can see why people would want to - this morning later on. you can see why people would want to move i this morning later on. you can see - why people would want to move there, imagine waking up to that every morning. imagine waking up to that every morninu. �* ., imagine waking up to that every morninu. . ., .,, ., ., imagine waking up to that every mornin. . ., ., ., imagine waking up to that every mornin. ., ., ., , morning. although as carol has been sa inc morning. although as carol has been saying through _ morning. although as carol has been saying through the _ morning. although as carol has been saying through the morning, - morning. although as carol has been saying through the morning, it - morning. although as carol has been saying through the morning, it isn't i saying through the morning, it isn't like that everywhere. let's find out what is happening in the weather. good morning. you're absolutely right, it's not like that everywhere that many of us are starting on a fine and dry note. for england and wales for the next couple of days, it will be warm and sunny but the exception is across north—west scotland where we have some persistent rain and it will be with us for the next couple of days. as a result, pollen levels in the north of the country with the cloud and the rain are low, moderate in northern ireland and parts of northern england, but high across many parts of england and wales and it is tree pollen at the moment which might be affecting you. we've also had this rain three yesterday, the early hours in the morning and it could be with us today, steadily falling, the amount starting up and indeed there is the risk of localised flooding in the north and west of scotland. gusty winds at the moment will tend to ease through the day. forthe moment will tend to ease through the day. for the rest of scotland and northern ireland will thin and break in places, and at times we will see some sunshine coming through. highs in aberdeen up to 16 degrees. northern ireland in the sunshine up to 16, up to 22 in hull, 22 in birmingham, 22 in the sunshine in london, and a lot of sunshine as i mentioned across england, wales and the channel islands. as we head on towards the rest of the afternoon and into the evening and overnight period, we hang onto the rain. it is a weather front, period, we hang onto the rain. it is a weatherfront, and it period, we hang onto the rain. it is a weather front, and it will slowly slip southwards through scotland and northern ireland. a bit more cloud at times coming in from the irish sea into western facing coasts, and you can see the temperature is not falling away as low as they did last night. tomorrow the rain will be weakening all the time as it continues to push southwards. behind it, cold air digs in so we will see wintry showers on higher ground. a lot of sunshine for england and wales once again, a little more cloud in the west. later in the day the sunshine will be hazy and we will start to see some saharan dust coming our way so do not be surprised if you see it on your car. we will look out for it.— we will look out for it. more likely to be in the _ we will look out for it. more likely to be in the south _ we will look out for it. more likely to be in the south than _ we will look out for it. more likely to be in the south than where - we will look out for it. more likely to be in the south than where you | to be in the south than where you are. ., y to be in the south than where you are. ., , ., , ~ , are. not everywhere, that is the key this morning- _ are. not everywhere, that is the key this morning. you _ are. not everywhere, that is the key this morning. you don't _ are. not everywhere, that is the key this morning. you don't even - are. not everywhere, that is the key this morning. you don't even have l are. not everywhere, that is the key| this morning. you don't even have to worry about — this morning. you don't even have to worry about it- _ this morning. you don't even have to worry about it. thank _ this morning. you don't even have to worry about it. thank you _ this morning. you don't even have to worry about it. thank you very - this morning. you don't even have toj worry about it. thank you very much. a bit of personalised _ worry about it. thank you very much. a bit of personalised weather - a bit of personalised weather forecast. . a bit of personalised weather forecast. ,, , ., forecast. she gives me a personalised _ forecast. she gives me a personalised forecast i forecast. she gives me a i personalised forecast every forecast. she gives me a - personalised forecast every day at 9:30am. that is a joke, by the way. she never answered my calls! there's another reason _ she never answered my calls! there's another reason for _ she never answered my calls! there's another reason for that. _ since the roll—out of the vaccination programme, there have been a number of high profile campaigns urging people from black and minority ethnic communities in the uk to get the jab. when it comes to the over 705, the latest figures from the uk's stats body show take—up amongst white britons was the highest at 90%, dropping significantly for those who identify as black caribbean and black african to 68% and 58% respectively. to tackle this sir lenny henry and some of his friends have put together a heartfelt and personal video to encourage their loved ones to get vaccinated. dear mums and dads. grandparents. aunties. uncles. i brothers. sisters. nephews. nieces. sons. daughters. cousins. we love you. we know we don't say it often enough. and sometimes we have our disagreements like families do. but wherever you are, we love you, from the bottom of our hearts, - and we know you love us. and we want to see you again. covid—19 has kept us apart for way too long. we want to hug you, we want to celebrate with you, we want to worship with you. we want to play video games with you, preferably in the same room. so that we can see the look on your face when we beat you. but in order to do all that, we all need to take the covid—19 jab. it's all of us in this together. sir lenny henryjoins us now. good morning, great to have you on again. it is a really powerful film, sir lenny. it is one thing to see this and identify the problem and then the next step is to bring people around and ask them to take part in this, so what was the driving force behind that to get this done? i driving force behind that to get this done? ~ driving force behind that to get this done?— this done? i think the figure of less than 4996 _ this done? i think the figure of less than 4996 was _ this done? i think the figure of less than 4996 was a _ this done? i think the figure of less than 4996 was a huge - this done? i think the figure of- less than 4996 was a huge motivator less than 49% was a huge motivator for all of us. i was talking to some friends and colleagues of mine and saying, why aren't we taking the vaccine? it's the key to the way out of the pandemic. it seemed to me that the way to do it was the way we approach the diversity issue, which was to write an open letter. so my colleagues and i put this letter together, and we got some of the most high—profile names, extraordinary names, baroness doreen lawrence, people like that, they all signed the letter. and then i suggested that amma asante, the brilliant director of bell, made a little film directly talking to our community to say, please take the jabs. it came together very quickly, we wrote the letter, we asked amma, she agreed and within a couple of weeks we were making the film. it will all over the place, amma is in scandinavia, adrian lester is south of the river, impossible to get hold of! david harewood was in canada! we all managed to make this little film with amma directing us remotely. it was so moving to make this film. we don't want anyone else to die and there is a disproportionate amount of black people dying of coronavirus. we wanted to, if there is a way out, and the vaccine is the way out, we wanted our friends and family to take take it up and do whatever else is doing.- family to take take it up and do whatever else is doing. there is a disproportionate _ whatever else is doing. there is a disproportionate amount - whatever else is doing. there is a disproportionate amount of - whatever else is doing. there is a l disproportionate amount of people dying, where does the reluctance on the hesitancy come from? i dying, where does the reluctance on the hesitancy come from?— the hesitancy come from? i don't know if his _ the hesitancy come from? i don't know if his hesitancy, _ the hesitancy come from? i don't know if his hesitancy, i _ the hesitancy come from? i don't know if his hesitancy, i think- the hesitancy come from? i don't know if his hesitancy, i think it i the hesitancy come from? i don't know if his hesitancy, i think it is| know if his hesitancy, i think it is probably misinformation. the person down the pub telling you the wrong things. the internet, it's a tricky little thing. what we say in the video and in the letter is please talk to a medical professional. do not go to dave down the pub for your information, or uncle charlie on the zoom call. go to a medical professional, your gp, or the nhs website, and get the proper information so you are properly informed, and take the jab. irate information so you are properly informed, and take the jab. informed, and take the 'ab. we don't want anybody — informed, and take the 'ab. we don't want anybody else _ informed, and take the 'ab. we don't want anybody else to _ informed, and take the jab. we don't want anybody else to die. _ informed, and take the jab. we don't want anybody else to die. do - informed, and take the jab. we don't want anybody else to die. do you - want anybody else to die. do you think some of it, lenny, across the board from people choosing not to haveit board from people choosing not to have it or thinking about not having it, is a sort of... i don't know, distrust or mistrust in authority, is that part of the problem? irate distrust or mistrust in authority, is that part of the problem? we say in the letter. _ is that part of the problem? we say in the letter, we _ is that part of the problem? we say in the letter, we know— is that part of the problem? we say in the letter, we know you - is that part of the problem? we say in the letter, we know you have - in the letter, we know you have legitimate concerns and worries about authorities and institutions. the vaccine has been tested for all ethnicities. and it's been... it safe. it is our way out of the pandemic so we should take it. if you are worried about it or in any way at all hesitant about it, talk to your medical professional or gp, go to the nhs online, talk to an expert, trust the experts, don't trust your mate down the pub or conspiracy theories online. because this is serious now. and when i look at that huge board of people who have died on the front line, all i see, the majority of people i see are black and brown. ourfriends and family, our loved ones. and ijust think we should take that advice and, yes, perhaps afterwards there will be an opportunity to rebuild trust and rebuild mitigating circumstances in authorities and institutions but right now, we want to see a disproportional amount of black people not dying in the face of covid—19. so take the jab is what we are saying in the film. i of covid-19. so take the jab is what we are saying in the film.— we are saying in the film. i think one of the _ we are saying in the film. i think one of the most _ we are saying in the film. i think one of the most powerful- we are saying in the film. i think i one of the most powerful elements we are saying in the film. i think - one of the most powerful elements of the film as you talk about family, don't you? you are directly addressing family. where did that idea come from, because it seems to really work?— idea come from, because it seems to really work? marcus ryder, one of my colleagues. — really work? marcus ryder, one of my colleagues. is — really work? marcus ryder, one of my colleagues, is an _ really work? marcus ryder, one of my colleagues, is an extraordinary - colleagues, is an extraordinary thinker about these things. and he says, this should be like when we're talking to our family, you says, this should be like when we're talking to ourfamily, you get your family around and they are miserable and no one wants to coordinate and there is too many dumplings and the rice has gone because you turned your head for four seconds, you your foot down and you say, right, we have to talk about this seriously, we love you. both marcus and amma said, imagine you are talking to someone in yourfamily. we said, imagine you are talking to someone in your family. we are talking to you down the line and saying, look, it's serious. we need to approach it seriously. let's not be mad, let's not get the misinformation, that is what we are going for. misinformation, that is what we are auoin for. ~ ., misinformation, that is what we are auoin for. ~ . .,, misinformation, that is what we are aaoin for. ~ . .,, misinformation, that is what we are aroin for. . . , going for. what has the response beina ? going for. what has the response being? dont— going for. what has the response being? don't know! _ going for. what has the response being? don't know! we _ going for. what has the response being? don't know! we are - going for. what has the response i being? don't know! we are watching it live on the — being? don't know! we are watching it live on the telly _ being? don't know! we are watching it live on the telly this _ being? don't know! we are watching it live on the telly this morning! - being? don't know! we are watching it live on the telly this morning! i i it live on the telly this morning! i will find out at lunchtime. i it live on the telly this morning! i will find out at lunchtime.- it live on the telly this morning! i will find out at lunchtime. i saw it in the paper. _ will find out at lunchtime. i saw it in the paper. may _ will find out at lunchtime. i saw it in the paper, may be _ will find out at lunchtime. i saw it in the paper, may be people - will find out at lunchtime. i saw it in the paper, may be people who | will find out at lunchtime. i saw it - in the paper, may be people who took part in it or people having conversations with their own families. we talked about this a month ago when we were talking about red nose day. do you think this is a conversation which is taking place in homes at the moment?- conversation which is taking place in homes at the moment? yeah, when we watch television _ in homes at the moment? yeah, when we watch television and _ in homes at the moment? yeah, when we watch television and we _ in homes at the moment? yeah, when we watch television and we see - we watch television and we see ourselves in the roll call, in that very sad and unfortunate roll call, it triggers something in us and we want to help. if we don't know all the facts, we are worried, we are all talking to each other. i talk to my sister about the other day, she has had herjab and i have had mine, we all want ourfamily has had herjab and i have had mine, we all want our family and friend to be safe. adrian lester texted me the other day and said, oh, gosh! the film is very moving! sham other day and said, oh, gosh! the film is very moving!— film is very moving! am i right in thinkina film is very moving! am i right in thinking you _ film is very moving! am i right in thinking you have _ film is very moving! am i right in thinking you have had _ film is very moving! am i right in thinking you have had your- film is very moving! am i right in l thinking you have had your second jab as well, how was it and how are you feeling? it jab as well, how was it and how are you feeling?— you feeling? it was good, it didn't hurt. it you feeling? it was good, it didn't hurt- it was _ you feeling? it was good, it didn't hurt. it was fine, _ you feeling? it was good, it didn't hurt. it was fine, no _ you feeling? it was good, it didn't| hurt. it was fine, no after-effects. hurt. it was fine, no after—effects. we sat afterwards in the place altogether, nobody quite talking to each other, not even biscuits, not even a cup of tea! you wait 15 minutes and then you go, veryquick. so i would say, you have to do it, so do it. i so i would say, you have to do it, so do it. ., so i would say, you have to do it, so do it. . ., . ., ., ., so do it. i have watched a lot of a-eole so do it. i have watched a lot of people video — so do it. i have watched a lot of people video then _ so do it. i have watched a lot of people video then -- _ so do it. i have watched a lot of people video then -- videoing l people video then —— videoing themselves, did you find it was a very emotional thing? or is itjust get in and get out? it very emotional thing? or is it 'ust get in and get out?i get in and get out? it was like it was the ride _ get in and get out? it was like it was the ride at _ get in and get out? it was like it was the ride at disney _ get in and get out? it was like it was the ride at disney world, i get in and get out? it was like it| was the ride at disney world, it's get in and get out? it was like it i was the ride at disney world, it's a small world, you go around a really long line of people, because everybody was there, black, brown, whatever, you can around in a circle but you don't get to ride in the tea cups at the end i was very disappointed! then you go in and you get your little card with information in it and then you go in, and i did find emotional, when the doctor was cleaning my arm i just gushed around how long it has been on, coronavirus, misinformation, and spacey theory, because of lockdown and i hadn't been out very often, ijust had to talk to somebody. it was like that, i was talking to this poor doctor, the doctor was saying, it happened ten minutes ago, you can leave now! just get out! i ten minutes ago, you can leave now! just get out!— just get out! i love it. one of those things, _ just get out! i love it. one of those things, you _ just get out! i love it. one of those things, you watch - just get out! i love it. one of. those things, you watch these just get out! i love it. one of- those things, you watch these lines of people being vaccinated and it is almost like a party, a socially distance the party. there is almost a giddiness about it.— a giddiness about it. yeah, the staff are so _ a giddiness about it. yeah, the staff are so brilliant. _ a giddiness about it. yeah, the staff are so brilliant. big - a giddiness about it. yeah, the staff are so brilliant. big up i a giddiness about it. yeah, the staff are so brilliant. big up to| staff are so brilliant. big up to the nurses and the staff there. because they explain things to you, they want you to feel comfortable, they want you to feel comfortable, they sit you down, they say, which arm? this one, that one, let's call the whole thing off! they are really good people. and i think to have any trepidation is misinformed, because they are such good people. and it's over so quickly and it doesn't hurt. i think it's a cool thing to do. l’m i think it's a cool thing to do. i'm aware there _ i think it's a cool thing to do. i'm aware there could be people tuning in right now coming in halfway through the interview, are you struggling with the sun this morning, sorry!— struggling with the sun this morning, sorry! struggling with the sun this mornina, sor ! ., ., , morning, sorry! hold on! sorry, i have aot morning, sorry! hold on! sorry, i have got new _ morning, sorry! hold on! sorry, i have got new blinds _ morning, sorry! hold on! sorry, i have got new blinds in _ morning, sorry! hold on! sorry, i have got new blinds in here, - morning, sorry! hold on! sorry, i have got new blinds in here, i'm| have got new blinds in here, i'm really sorry. —— i haven't got any blinds in here. really sorry. -- i haven't got any blinds in here.— blinds in here. people might be thinkina , blinds in here. people might be thinking. we — blinds in here. people might be thinking, we are _ blinds in here. people might be thinking, we are speaking - blinds in here. people might be thinking, we are speaking to i blinds in here. people might bej thinking, we are speaking to sir lenny henry, who has made this very powerfulfilm about lenny henry, who has made this very powerful film about taking the vaccine. people who have legitimate concerns, it is talk to your family and the medical professional? yes. and the medical professional? yes, don't be misinformed, _ and the medical professional? is: don't be misinformed, don't be online because everything is online, don'tjust talk to online because everything is online, don't just talk to your mates, peaches get the proper information and talk to a medical professional. at that point, you will be informed, make an informed decision about taking the jab of course. but less than 49% of black british adults say they will take the child and we need that to be more because we don't want to have any more of our friends orfamilies to pass want to have any more of our friends or families to pass away from the deadly viruses to get involved and take this jab. bud deadly viruses to get involved and take thisiab— deadly viruses to get involved and take this jab-— deadly viruses to get involved and take this 'ab. . ., ,, i. . take this 'ab. and thank you so much for take this jab. and thank you so much for talkina take this jab. and thank you so much for talking to — take this jab. and thank you so much for talking to us, _ take this jab. and thank you so much for talking to us, may _ take this jab. and thank you so much for talking to us, may be _ take this jab. and thank you so much for talking to us, may be in - take this jab. and thank you so much for talking to us, may be in some - for talking to us, may be in some blinds! l for talking to us, may be in some blinds! ., ., , ., blinds! i might have to, it is a alorious blinds! i might have to, it is a glorious day! _ blinds! i might have to, it is a glorious day! i— blinds! i might have to, it is a glorious day! i haven't - blinds! i might have to, it is a glorious day! i haven't got - blinds! i might have to, it is a glorious day! i haven't got my blinds! i might have to, it is a - glorious day! i haven't got my own aersonal glorious day! i haven't got my own personal weather _ glorious day! i haven't got my own personal weather forecaster - glorious day! i haven't got my own personal weather forecaster but i l personal weather forecaster but i believe this is going to be like it every day. i believe this is going to be like it eve da . ,., believe this is going to be like it every day-— believe this is going to be like it every day-_ l i every day. i will sort it out. i guarantee — every day. i will sort it out. i guarantee you, _ every day. i will sort it out. i guarantee you, carol- every day. i will sort it out. i guarantee you, carol will. every day. i will sort it out. i guarantee you, carol will do | every day. i will sort it out. i- guarantee you, carol will do that for you! — guarantee you, carol will do that for you! we guarantee you, carol will do that for ou! ~ ., ., for you! we will get her to mention oxfordshire — for you! we will get her to mention oxfordshire where _ for you! we will get her to mention oxfordshire where you _ for you! we will get her to mention oxfordshire where you are - for you! we will get her to mention oxfordshire where you are in - for you! we will get her to mention oxfordshire where you are in the i oxfordshire where you are in the next forecast.— next forecast. thank you, carol, thank you _ next forecast. thank you, carol, thank you everybody, _ next forecast. thank you, carol, thank you everybody, goodbye, | next forecast. thank you, carol, - thank you everybody, goodbye, look after yourselves! nice to talk to you. after yourselves! nice to talk to ou. ., ., . nice to talk to you. carol will have to text him _ nice to talk to you. carol will have to text him every _ nice to talk to you. carol will have to text him every day _ nice to talk to you. carol will have to text him every day now. - nice to talk to you. carol will have to text him every day now. she i nice to talk to you. carol will have | to text him every day now. she will committees — to text him every day now. she will committees that's _ to text him every day now. she will committees that's kind _ to text him every day now. she will committees that's kind of - to text him every day now. she will committees that's kind of person! l to text him every day now. she will. committees that's kind of person! -- committees that's kind of person! —— she will, she is a kind of person! pet groups are concerned that the sharp rise in so—called "dognapping" in lockdown last year, will increase even further in the months ahead. one dog organisation says it saw a 250% rise in reports of thefts last year. in 2019 "dog lost" recorded 179 stolen pets. that figure jumped to 465 in 2020. compare that to the first three months of this year, and so far they've already had 168 stolen dog reports, almost as many as in the whole of 2019. just this weekend a heartbroken couple made a desperate appealfor information on their labradors denzel and welly, which were stolen from outside a shop in nantwich in cheshire. cctv shows two men running away with them. let's speak now to debbie matthews, who's the chief executive of the stolen and missing pets alliance, and karen crawley, whose cocker spaniel, chester is sadly missing and feared stolen. good morning, both of you. karen, if i can come to you first, what happened to you?— i can come to you first, what happened to you? i can come to you first, what ha- aened to ou? ~ ., ., ,, happened to you? well, i was walking chester as usual, _ happened to you? well, i was walking chester as usual, on _ happened to you? well, i was walking chester as usual, on the _ happened to you? well, i was walking chester as usual, on the 4th - happened to you? well, i was walking chester as usual, on the 4th of- chester as usual, on the 4th of march, and hejust ran ahead, a few paces around the corner on the footpath, and when i got to there, maybe ten seconds later, there was no sign of him at all. immediately, of course, i searched and normally he has very good recall. and there was nothing. i spoke to lots of people around, spoke to everybody, no one had seen anything. so we began doing an extensive search, i cold some friends and family out, there wasn't a single siting —— i called some friends and family. at first you think, he's just missing, but as time went on, more searching was done, eventually we had to come to the conclusion that he vanished into thin air, so somebody did pick him up and take him.— into thin air, so somebody did pick him up and take him. karen, how much of an impact — him up and take him. karen, how much of an impact has _ him up and take him. karen, how much of an impact has this _ him up and take him. karen, how much of an impact has this had _ him up and take him. karen, how much of an impact has this had on _ him up and take him. karen, how much of an impact has this had on you? - of an impact has this had on you? huge, i mean, it's devastating. he my constant companion. obviously a great help through lockdown, but anyway, we have been togetherfor a long time. but in addition to that, he acts as an early warning system for when my blood sugar is dropping. i am a type one diabetic and sometimes i don't get warning symptoms but he spots it, and he comes and pulls at me and lets me know and makes a connection, i say, ok, you are trying to tell me something, so i do my blood test and discover i am going into a hypo of blood sugar. it’s discover i am going into a hypo of blood sugar-— blood sugar. it's so upsetting, isn't it? as — blood sugar. it's so upsetting, isn't it? as we _ blood sugar. it's so upsetting, isn't it? as we hear, _ blood sugar. it's so upsetting, isn't it? as we hear, this - blood sugar. it's so upsetting, isn't it? as we hear, this is i isn't it? as we hear, this is becoming more and more common at the moment. debbie, i know your dogs were stolen number of years ago but you got them back thanks to your late great dad, bruce forsyth. tell us what happened to you.- late great dad, bruce forsyth. tell us what happened to you. well, i had left them in — us what happened to you. well, i had left them in my _ us what happened to you. well, i had left them in my car, _ us what happened to you. well, i had left them in my car, which _ us what happened to you. well, i had left them in my car, which i _ us what happened to you. well, i had left them in my car, which i know - left them in my car, which i know everybody — left them in my car, which i know everybody would say, you should never _ everybody would say, you should never leave your dog in the car but in 2006. _ never leave your dog in the car but in 2006, dog theft wasn't heard of. i in 2006, dog theft wasn't heard of. | -ot in 2006, dog theft wasn't heard of. i got back_ in 2006, dog theft wasn't heard of. i got back and my window had been smashed _ i got back and my window had been smashed and the dogs were gone. the police _ smashed and the dogs were gone. the police were _ smashed and the dogs were gone. the police were called straight the way and they— police were called straight the way and they said, it's nothing valuable, we won't come out, it's only— valuable, we won't come out, it's only dogs — valuable, we won't come out, it's only dogs i— valuable, we won't come out, it's only dogs. i found out straightaway there _ only dogs. i found out straightaway there wasn't any help for me. i didn't— there wasn't any help for me. i didn't understand back then that dogs _ didn't understand back then that dogs were property in law. and then i dogs were property in law. and then i found _ dogs were property in law. and then i found out— dogs were property in law. and then i found out that the microchip wasn't — i found out that the microchip wasn't good to help me either. so thank— wasn't good to help me either. so thank god — wasn't good to help me either. so thank god i— wasn't good to help me either. so thank god i had my dad, because without— thank god i had my dad, because without him, i would never have got them _ without him, i would never have got them back — without him, i would never have got them back. the without him, i would never have got them back. ., ., without him, i would never have got them back-— them back. the good news is, at least ou them back. the good news is, at least you did. — them back. the good news is, at least you did, they _ them back. the good news is, at least you did, they were - them back. the good news is, at| least you did, they were returned them back. the good news is, at i least you did, they were returned to you. how long did that take and what was that like? i suppose that gives you a real insight into people like karen who have lost their dogs. you never forget — karen who have lost their dogs. you never forget that moment, it's devastating. our pets are not property, _ devastating. our pets are not property, they are irreplaceable, priceless — property, they are irreplaceable, priceless members of our family. and to get— priceless members of our family. and to get them _ priceless members of our family. and to get them back was just unbelievable. everybody said, you're not going _ unbelievable. everybody said, you're not going to get them back, that's it, they're — not going to get them back, that's it, they're gone, and to get them back— it, they're gone, and to get them back was— it, they're gone, and to get them back was incredible. but without my father, _ back was incredible. but without my father, i_ back was incredible. but without my father, i would back was incredible. but without my father, iwould never back was incredible. but without my father, i would never have got them because _ father, i would never have got them because they were seven years old and neutered. iwas because they were seven years old and neutered. i was told they would and neutered. ! was told they would probably— and neutered. i was told they would probably be sold for cash. and that is what _ probably be sold for cash. and that is what had — probably be sold for cash. and that is what had been happened, they had been sold _ is what had been happened, they had been sold on, in livestock market in and the _ been sold on, in livestock market in and the other dog was in a park and i and the other dog was in a park and | -ot and the other dog was in a park and i got the _ and the other dog was in a park and i got the boat back. how and the other dog was in a park and i got the boat back.— and the other dog was in a park and i got the boat back. how much hope do ou i got the boat back. how much hope do you have — i got the boat back. how much hope do you have that _ i got the boat back. how much hope do you have that you _ i got the boat back. how much hope do you have that you might i do you have that you might eventually see chester again? i eventually see chester again? i still have hope. just in the last week or two, police in two different counties have recovered large numbers of stolen dogs, some of whom have been taken from different parts of the country, and even after a year or two apart. so there is always still hope. but in the meantime, every single day is a struggle. it's also possible, of course, in my case, that somebody local has found him at his keeping him for themselves, —— and his keeping him for themselves which is also a problem which does happen. so i hope that whoever has got him, if they see this, they can just take him to a vet or call a dog warden. get him microchip it scanned and they will be able to get him back to me. ~ , y ., they will be able to get him back to me. ~ , , ., ., , they will be able to get him back to me_ . , , ., ., , , me. we wish you all the very, very best of luck- _ me. we wish you all the very, very best of luck. thank _ me. we wish you all the very, very best of luck. thank you _ me. we wish you all the very, very best of luck. thank you both i me. we wish you all the very, very best of luck. thank you both very i best of luck. thank you both very much. some pretty basic advice, debbie has mentioned this in the past as well, the number one place that dogs are stolen from is the garden, check your gates, may be put in some cctv, never leave them unattended in a shop or a car. it is crazy that dog owners have to think about this, but walking your dog is different routes at different times and being vigilant the moment.- at different times and being vigilant the moment. such a distressing _ vigilant the moment. such a distressing story. _ stay with us, headlines coming up. good morning, welcome to breakfast with sally nugent and dan walker. our headlines today: what caused the coronavirus outbreak? a long awaited report from the world health organisation is published today, as world leaders call for an international treaty to deal with future pandemics. calls for an independent inquiry following an outpouring of complaints about sexual misconduct in schools. we don't want you to get sick. we don't want you to die. and when your turn comes, take the jab. dozens of high profile stars join a campaign by sir lenny henry, urging people from black communities to get the covid vaccine. are we set for a bumper delivery for deliveroo? good morning. shares in the takeaway delivery firm are up for grabs for the first time — but some investors are spooked by a row over workers' rights. what does it tell us about future ways of working? and welcome to bbc breakfast does escape to the country as the pandemic drive up the number of people looking to escape the city for a new life in the countryside or on the coast. good morning. yesterday was the warmest day of the year so far. today we could top those temperatures. for scotland and northern ireland, more cloud, some persistent rain in the north west. details in ten minutes. good morning. it's tuesday, the 30th of march. our top story. a long awaited report into how the pandemic began has identified bats as the probable source of the coronavirus, and dismisses the theory it emerged from a chinese laboratory. it's been drawn up by scientists of the world health organisation. it has been seen by the bbc ahead of its publication later today. let's have a look at the key findings. the report says covid—19 probably passed from bats through an intermediary animal to humans. but it does not offer definitive answers on the mystery at the very heart of the pandemic — how the virus actually jumped to humans. and the theory that the virus was released via a laboratory incident in china, is considered extremely unlikely. let's speak to our health editor hugh pym. good morning. hugh, it's a question the world has been asking and now we finally seem to have some answers? yes, that's right. there was an interim — yes, that's right. there was an interim report drawn up a couple of months _ interim report drawn up a couple of months ago. a team of who officials was in _ months ago. a team of who officials was in china — months ago. a team of who officials was in china are working with chinese — was in china are working with chinese health officials. but this is the _ chinese health officials. but this is the final report. a draft has been — is the final report. a draft has been seen _ is the final report. a draft has been seen by bbc news and some other media _ been seen by bbc news and some other media it _ been seen by bbc news and some other media it is _ been seen by bbc news and some other media. it is going to be published later today. media. it is going to be published latertoday. but media. it is going to be published later today. but as you say, it says they most — later today. but as you say, it says they most likely cause of the coronavirus outbreak initially in wuhan — coronavirus outbreak initially in wuhan in — coronavirus outbreak initially in wuhan in china, it was first discovered in humans in 2019, the most _ discovered in humans in 2019, the most likety— discovered in humans in 2019, the most likely explanation is eight originated in bats, jumped to another— originated in bats, jumped to another animal and then to humans. it's another animal and then to humans. it's not _ another animal and then to humans. it's not clear— another animal and then to humans. it's not clear what that intermediary animal actually is. it says it _ intermediary animal actually is. it says it is — intermediary animal actually is. it says it is possible it could have gone _ says it is possible it could have gone straight from bats says it is possible it could have gone straight from hats to humans. that is— gone straight from hats to humans. that is less — gone straight from hats to humans. that is less likely. it is possible that the — that is less likely. it is possible that the international food chain, the import of food and packaging and chilled _ the import of food and packaging and chilled food, could have come in that way— chilled food, could have come in that way to china. but that i think is said _ that way to china. but that i think is said to — that way to china. but that i think is said to be — that way to china. but that i think is said to be pretty unlikely. very unlikely. — is said to be pretty unlikely. very unlikely. it— is said to be pretty unlikely. very unlikely, it says, is the widespread theory— unlikely, it says, is the widespread theory that— unlikely, it says, is the widespread theory that originated at one stage, which _ theory that originated at one stage, which is _ theory that originated at one stage, which is that it may have been a leak— which is that it may have been a leak from — which is that it may have been a leak from a _ which is that it may have been a leak from a laboratory, some sort of incident _ leak from a laboratory, some sort of incident in _ leak from a laboratory, some sort of incident in a — leak from a laboratory, some sort of incident in a laboratory. that is ruled _ incident in a laboratory. that is ruled out— incident in a laboratory. that is ruled out as being highly improbable. but the report does say more _ improbable. but the report does say more work— improbable. but the report does say more work is needed to try to work out what _ more work is needed to try to work out what this intermediary situation was with— out what this intermediary situation was with an — out what this intermediary situation was with an animal that then passed it on to _ was with an animal that then passed it on to humans. and also, whether there _ it on to humans. and also, whether there were — it on to humans. and also, whether there were cases before december in wuhan _ there were cases before december in wuhan it— there were cases before december in wuhan. it was initially, if you remember, thought to have originated at a wet _ remember, thought to have originated at a wet food market in wuhan. it was a _ at a wet food market in wuhan. it was a few— at a wet food market in wuhan. it was a few months before that. there are still— was a few months before that. there are still unanswered questions and the report— are still unanswered questions and the report will be scrutinised very carefully — the report will be scrutinised very carefull . ., ., , ., . , carefully. you say more research is needed. carefully. you say more research is needed- what _ carefully. you say more research is needed. what is _ carefully. you say more research is needed. what is likely _ carefully. you say more research is needed. what is likely to _ carefully. you say more research is needed. what is likely to be i carefully. you say more research is needed. what is likely to be the i needed. what is likely to be the international impact of this report? well, it will be looked at very carefully _ well, it will be looked at very carefully. the who will want to carry— carefully. the who will want to carry on — carefully. the who will want to carry on making its enquiries. it would _ carry on making its enquiries. it would be — carry on making its enquiries. it would be interesting to hear the reaction — would be interesting to hear the reaction of the chinese government. so i reaction of the chinese government. so i think— reaction of the chinese government. so i think further work will be ongoing _ so i think further work will be ongoing. there are unanswered questions _ ongoing. there are unanswered questions. of course, given the huge toll, the _ questions. of course, given the huge toll, the loss of life, because of covid-19 — toll, the loss of life, because of covid—19 around the world, the massive — covid—19 around the world, the massive disruption to world economies, there are further questions _ economies, there are further questions to be asked. of course, there _ questions to be asked. of course, there is— questions to be asked. of course, there is a — questions to be asked. of course, there is a lot of politics involved and diplomacy over the chinese government being pretty sensitive about _ government being pretty sensitive about accusations of the way they handled _ about accusations of the way they handled it — about accusations of the way they handled it initially. i am sure it will have — handled it initially. i am sure it will have to be dealt with carefully. but a scientist around the world — carefully. but a scientist around the world will certainly want more answers — answers. good to speak to you. hugh pym, thank you. another pandemic or health crisis is a matter of not if, but when — that's the warning from a group of more than 20 world leaders. borisjohnson, emmanuel macron, and germany's chancellor merkel are among those calling for a new international treaty to deal with future outbreaks and ensure universal and equal access to medicine and vaccines. sir lenny henry has told breakfast that people should speak to medical professionals as he urged black british people to get the covid—19 jab. we don't want you to get sick. we don't we don't want you to get sick. don't want we don't want you to get sick. we don't want you to die. when i we don't want you to get sick. we don't want you to die. when your| don't want you to die. when your turn comes. _ don't want you to die. when your turn comes, take _ don't want you to die. when your turn comes, take the _ don't want you to die. when your turn comes, take the jab. i he's made this video with the help of celebrities like actor the david harwood and reverend rose hudson—wilkin. vaccination rates among black britons are considerably lower than among white britons, something sir lenny is trying to turnaround. please talk to a medical professional. do not go to dave down the pub— professional. do not go to dave down the pub for— professional. do not go to dave down the pub for your information, or uncle _ the pub for your information, or uncle charlie on the zoom call. go to a medical— uncle charlie on the zoom call. go to a medical professional, your gp or to _ to a medical professional, your gp or to nhs — to a medical professional, your gp or to nhs .com and get the proper information, so that you are properly— information, so that you are properly informed, and take the jab. because _ properly informed, and take the jab. because we — properly informed, and take the jab. because we don't want anybody else to die _ labour and conservative mps have this morning united in their calls for more action when it comes to tackling sexual abuse in schools. it comes as more than 10,000 students, past and present, have now left testimonies on a website detailing their experiences of sexual misconduct at school. in the last hour, both parties told breakfast victim's need help and support. ido i do think that there is a lord of the flies — i do think that there is a lord of the flies culture engulfed in some of our— the flies culture engulfed in some of our schools across our country. and what — of our schools across our country. and what needs to happen is an urgent — and what needs to happen is an urgent independent enquiry to overhaul— urgent independent enquiry to overhaul safeguarding procedures, because _ overhaul safeguarding procedures, because clearly they are not fit for purpose — because clearly they are not fit for purpose. the helpline that has been announced. — purpose. the helpline that has been announced, i've been calling for, has got _ announced, i've been calling for, has got to— announced, i've been calling for, has got to be permanent, notjust for current— has got to be permanent, notjust for current victims, but for students _ for current victims, but for students who are able to access report _ students who are able to access report and — students who are able to access report and confide with a command know— report and confide with a command know that — report and confide with a command know that action will be taken. and the schools— know that action will be taken. and the schools involved should immediately implement a system of providing _ immediately implement a system of providing counselling for past and present— providing counselling for past and present victims as well, so they can be helped _ present victims as well, so they can be helped both with their mental health. _ be helped both with their mental health, their well and get all the support— health, their well and get all the support they need. it is still not very pleasant for young — it is still not very pleasant for young girls _ it is still not very pleasant for young girls to _ it is still not very pleasant for young girls to have, - it is still not very pleasant for young girls to have, you i it is still not very pleasant for. young girls to have, you know, it is still not very pleasant for- young girls to have, you know, to be called _ young girls to have, you know, to be called a _ young girls to have, you know, to be called a slow — young girls to have, you know, to be called a slow tell _ young girls to have, you know, to be called a slow tell max _ young girls to have, you know, to be called a slow tell max a _ young girls to have, you know, to be called a slow tell max a slide, i young girls to have, you know, to be called a slow tell max a slide, to i called a slow tell max a slide, to have _ called a slow tell max a slide, to have their— called a slow tell max a slide, to have their bra _ called a slow tell max a slide, to have their bra paint, _ called a slow tell max a slide, to have their bra paint, or- called a slow tell max a slide, to have their bra paint, or people l have their bra paint, or people talking — have their bra paint, or people talking about _ have their bra paint, or people talking about what _ have their bra paint, or people talking about what they- have their bra paint, or people talking about what they get i have their bra paint, or people talking about what they get upj have their bra paint, or people i talking about what they get up to at the weekend — talking about what they get up to at the weekend as _ talking about what they get up to at the weekend as if— talking about what they get up to at the weekend as if their— talking about what they get up to at the weekend as if their value i talking about what they get up to at the weekend as if their value is- the weekend as if their value is there — the weekend as if their value is there that— the weekend as if their value is there. that is— the weekend as if their value is there. that is the _ the weekend as if their value is there. that is the kind - the weekend as if their value is there. that is the kind of- the weekend as if their value is. there. that is the kind of culture in a school— there. that is the kind of culture in a school that _ there. that is the kind of culture in a school that leads _ there. that is the kind of culture in a school that leads to i there. that is the kind of culture in a school that leads to sexual. in a school that leads to sexual violence — in a school that leads to sexual violence been _ in a school that leads to sexual violence been tolerated. i in a school that leads to sexual violence been tolerated. so i in a school that leads to sexual i violence been tolerated. so whilst i don't _ violence been tolerated. so whilst i don't think— violence been tolerated. so whilst i don't think that — violence been tolerated. so whilst i don't think that you _ violence been tolerated. so whilst i don't think that you know, - violence been tolerated. so whilst i don't think that you know, we i violence been tolerated. so whilst i. don't think that you know, we should be criminalising _ don't think that you know, we should be criminalising every— don't think that you know, we should be criminalising every single - don't think that you know, we should be criminalising every single personi be criminalising every single person who makes— be criminalising every single person who makes an — be criminalising every single person who makes an inappropriate i be criminalising every single person who makes an inappropriate joke i be criminalising every single person who makes an inappropriate joke toj be criminalising every single person i who makes an inappropriate joke to a woman, _ who makes an inappropriate joke to a woman, i_ who makes an inappropriate joke to a woman, i do— who makes an inappropriate joke to a woman, i do think— who makes an inappropriate joke to a woman, i do think it— who makes an inappropriate joke to a woman, i do think it should _ who makes an inappropriate joke to a woman, i do think it should be i who makes an inappropriate joke to a woman, i do think it should be part. woman, i do think it should be part of every— woman, i do think it should be part of every single _ woman, i do think it should be part of every single school's _ of every single school's disciplinary _ of every single school'si disciplinary proceedings. lawyers have set out their opening arguments in the trial of a white former police officer accused of killing the black man, george floyd. the jury in the city of minneapolis was shown the video footage of mr floyd gasping for breath as the officer, derek chauvin, knelt on his neck. the defence argue that mr floyd's health conditions and drug use contributed to his death. mr chauvin denies the charges. pub chain wetherspoon says it plans to create two—thousand newjobs by opening new pubs and upgrading existing ones. the business says it will spend £145 million on the project in places such as leeds, sheffield and glasgow. it says the work will start as the lockdown eases. pubs in england can begin to serve customers sitting outside from april 12th. container ships have started sailing through the suez canal again, after a stranded vessel blocking it for nearly a week, was finally freed. the trapped ever given caused long delays as hundreds of ships are waiting to pass through the canal, which links the mediterranean to the red sea. experts say the backlog will takes days to clear. did you see the video on social media yesterday of all the pilots of the talk about celebrating? they were going wild. it has been a lot of work. , _ ., , ., ,, of work. they say it will only take da s to of work. they say it will only take days to clear _ of work. they say it will only take days to clear but _ of work. they say it will only take days to clear but there _ of work. they say it will only take days to clear but there is i of work. they say it will only take days to clear but there is a i of work. they say it will only take days to clear but there is a big i days to clear but there is a big backlog. ! days to clear but there is a big backloa. ~ days to clear but there is a big backloa. ,, ., ., backlog. i think i read on saturday mornina backlog. i think i read on saturday morning there _ backlog. i think i read on saturday morning there were _ backlog. i think i read on saturday morning there were about i backlog. i think i read on saturday morning there were about 300 i backlog. i think i read on saturday i morning there were about 300 ships in the backlog, all coming in with various items, some with livestock on it as well. going to places all over the world. some had to re—route around africa as well, a huge diversion. i around africa as well, a huge diversion-— around africa as well, a huge diversion. i feel like i need to start this _ diversion. i feel like i need to start this next _ diversion. i feel like i need to start this next section - diversion. i feel like i need to start this next section with i diversion. i feel like i need to} start this next section with an apology to carol. i may have just added to your workload. you have got another person to do a daily weather forecast for. you another person to do a daily weather forecast for-— forecast for. you will have to text lenny henry _ forecast for. you will have to text lenny henry every _ forecast for. you will have to text lenny henry every morning - forecast for. you will have to text lenny henry every morning now. | lenny henry every morning now. i can think of worse things. good morning everybody. this morning, it is mixed fortunes ready. some of us are starting off in double figures. some in single figures. in the south there has been a touch of frost and fog. england and wales the next couple of days will be warm and sunny. it will be wet in the north and west. in oxfordshire this morning a lot of sunshine. that is just for you, sir lenny henry. a lot of sunshine generally across england and wales. across northern ireland and wales. across northern ireland and scotland, more cloud and that persistent rain. into the afternoon you can see the channel islands, southern counties of england, wales, the midlands, oxfordshire, east anglia and northern england also hanging onto that sunshine. for northern ireland and scotland there will be more cloud, but it will break at times. we have persistent rain as far north as shetland. but if the winds here will ease through the day. temperatures, eight in lowood, ii in stornoway under that weather front producing the rain. highs of 21 and 23 in the south of ink then. into this evening and overnight we hang onto this rain. if anything it will slowly subside. getting into northern ireland, the parts of scotland, and also it is not going to be as cold in light across southern areas as it was for some of us last night. we have also got some cloud lapping onshore from the irish sea into some western facing costs. tomorrow here comes the weather front are slowly slipping south. weakening all the time. cold air digs in behind it. there will be some wintry showers on higher ground. temperature a bit lower. as we come south we have the sunshine. it will turn hazy later in the day, more cloud coming in, it mayjust contain some saharan desert dust. we are ready for the dust. thank you. we are ready for the dust. thank ou. ., . y we are ready for the dust. thank ou. ., ., , , you. you are very interested in the desert dust- _ you. you are very interested in the desert dust- i _ you. you are very interested in the desert dust. i know— you. you are very interested in the desert dust. i know because - you. you are very interested in the desert dust. i know because i - you. you are very interested in the desert dust. i know because i am i desert dust. i know because i am worried about _ desert dust. i know because i am worried about the _ desert dust. i know because i am worried about the car. _ desert dust. i know because i am worried about the car. it - desert dust. i know because i am worried about the car. it is - desert dust. i know because i am worried about the car. it is going | worried about the car. it is going to be in the _ worried about the car. it is going to be in the south. _ worried about the car. it is going to be in the south. why - worried about the car. it is going to be in the south. why don't - worried about the car. it is going | to be in the south. why don't you 'ust to be in the south. why don't you just forget _ to be in the south. why don't you just forget about _ to be in the south. why don't you just forget about the _ to be in the south. why don't you just forget about the uk - to be in the south. why don't you | just forget about the uk weather? just tell us where baselli is going that day, make sure you do that for two minutes. i that day, make sure you do that for two minutes-— two minutes. i think you are jealous- _ jealous. if i'm spending on my time doing forecast for sir lenny henry, won't have time to do it for anybody else. i am due to play golf tomorrow. well, hard cheese, dan! she i am due to play golf tomorrow. well, hard cheese, dan! she opens it u . well, hard cheese, dan! she opens it u- to ou. well, hard cheese, dan! she opens it up to you- you _ well, hard cheese, dan! she opens it up to you- you get — well, hard cheese, dan! she opens it up to you. you get personal - well, hard cheese, dan! she opens it up to you. you get personal weather| up to you. you get personal weather forecast. i feel i need to mend this relationship. the easing of some restrictions in england was a significant day for many of us yesterday, as for the first time this year, and in some cases, the first time ever, family and friends were finally brought together. among them were barbara and arthur simper, who we first met last december, when they were two of the first people in the world to get the vaccine. yesterday, they met their new great—grandchild in person for the first time. brea kfast�*s graham satchell was there. 0h, isn't that lovely? and there they are together, nola and lila. cute, aren't they? lockdown has been hard for barbara and arthur. look at that. snug as a bug in a rug. they haven't been able to see their two great grandchildren, lila, a toddler, and nola, who's just two weeks old. it's been difficult having a great grandchild that i haven't been able to hold or touch or anything. and the other one, i saw her when she was just first—born, and for a few months i could see her and hold her and now, she's a stranger. barbara's getting ready for the first visit in months. we'll have biscuits, shall we, arthur? it's a day for the best china. the easing restrictions in england, a chance at last for the families to reunite. are you nervous? no, no, ijust want to have it done. i'd rather have this done than get the actual covid—19. we first met barbara and arthur in december last year. they were among the best people in the world to get the new vaccine. we can now speak, delighted to say, to barbara and arthur simper- whojoin us from their home in bletchlex _ we have been following the whole family on this programme. what would you like to say . to your lovely grandparents? 0h, ijust, you know, we both love you so much and it's so exciting for us to know that you guys are on the path to getting back to some kind of normality a lot sooner than expected, and we just can't wait to see you properly and give you that hug we have been waiting for for so long. here they are! hello, lila! there they are, look! it's your great nanny and great granddad. hello, lila! hello, gorgeous girl! aren't you gorgeous? this is such sweet agony. social distancing rules means they can look, but they can't touch. you all right, nan? oh, this is awful. that's what happens in lockdown, longer hair and a new baby. aw, virtual hugs, nan, virtual hugs. virtual hug, no real ones, though. not long, we are on the path. we're on the path to get there very soon. it's your new great—granddaughter. yeah, i know. and i can't hold her, i can't touch her. no windows this time, no windows, so we're getting closer, step—by—step, we're getting there. it's hard for barbara and arthur, the whole family. but nothing a good cup of tea can't fix. she said her first three syllable word. did she? what did she say? kangaroo. barbara's family have stuck closely to the rules all the way through this pandemic and there is a real hope here that we may have turned the corner. if it carries on like this, and we're going in the right direction, it won't be long until you can put her arms around herand give hera hug. and lila. and lila as well. gorgeous, aren't you? aren't you a gorgeous girl? i mean, look at her little face, she's so gorgeous. they both are. just to see them, you know, properly, to see... instead of through a car window or an ordinary window. it's lovelyjust to see them here, sitting here in my garden. yeah, it's quite emotional, really. big! big fish, yeah. can you see a duck? big duck! big duck, yeah. it's the simple ordinary things that people have missed so much. family visits, great grandchildren exploring the garden. do you want to say goodbye? bye—bye, blow kisses. 0h, bless her! see you soon! this scene will be repeated in back gardens across the uk this week as restrictions are gradually lifted. it is a hopeful step towards normality. bye—bye, lila! she waves to the last. graham satchell, bbc news. i love them so much. it is hard to watch though, isn't it? not being able to hook stop —— or hug. there is a difference between what they're able to do there and a zoom call. it is a big step. fist able to do there and a zoom call. it is a big step-— is a big step. at least they are in the same garden. _ it's one of the uk's most popular tourist destinations, and now it's becoming an increasingly sought after place to live. record numbers of people are moving to cornwall to seek a new life by the sea. john maguire is there for us this morning. morning. morning. we are actually in falmouth. morning. morning. we are actually in falmouth- we _ morning. morning. we are actually in falmouth. we have _ morning. morning. we are actually in falmouth. we have just _ morning. morning. we are actually in falmouth. we have just what's - morning. morning. we are actually in falmouth. we have just what's the i falmouth. we have just what's the ferry. _ falmouth. we have just what's the ferry. the — falmouth. we have just what's the ferry, the duchess of cornwall, get ready— ferry, the duchess of cornwall, get ready for— ferry, the duchess of cornwall, get ready for the day. coming across the watch _ ready for the day. coming across the watch the _ ready for the day. coming across the water. the south coast very different _ water. the south coast very different from the north coast. the dark hit_ different from the north coast. the dark bit with its rugged cliffs. it is more — dark bit with its rugged cliffs. it is more about sail and surf on the southern — is more about sail and surf on the southern part of the coast. we have seen, _ southern part of the coast. we have seen. due _ southern part of the coast. we have seen. due to — southern part of the coast. we have seen, due to the pandemic, a doubling _ seen, due to the pandemic, a doubling in the number of enquiries for cornwall and devon as people sort of— for cornwall and devon as people sort of recalibrate their lives. when — sort of recalibrate their lives. when you _ sort of recalibrate their lives. when you think about working these days. _ when you think about working these days. you _ when you think about working these days, you canjust as easily when you think about working these days, you can just as easily with a zoom _ days, you can just as easily with a zoom catt— days, you can just as easily with a zoom call be in canary wharf as in cairo _ zoom call be in canary wharf as in cairo as— zoom call be in canary wharf as in cairo as in— zoom call be in canary wharf as in cairo as in cornwall. a lot of people — cairo as in cornwall. a lot of people are deciding to make that life change. it's long been a hotspot for holiday—makers, but increasingly cornwall is now a hotspot for house—buyers. not second homeowners, but people who want to live here all year round. it's a bit awkward, isn't it, trying to dodge each other all the time! paul and jill rafter are moving down from bristol. so, you've got utility room in there. but with such high demand for homes, there's stiff competition and they fear being priced out of the market. from a location point of view, this is ideal for us. yeah. we love the sea, we love being by it, in it, on it. so, you know, it'sjust an ideal place for us to live. so, yeah, we really want to move down here but it, it's difficult because, you know, some people have got crazy money and we are not in that situation. we want to move down here, we need to sell our house, we want to make a life here and, you know, so wejust have to wait and see. 0h, here is one of them. hi, darling. and the plan is forjill�*s two daughters and their family to move here as well. here we go, what do you think of this? emma ward is an estate agent based on the north coast in st agnes. she says sometimes people will buy houses without seeing them in person. and it gives you the sort of opportunity to do something major to it, doesn't it? and prices are rising. we're having properties that are going way above the asking price. having to go into a best and final offer situation, where we wouldn't have had that every day before. is there enough property? no, absolutely not! we need more property. this is the old victorian schoolhouse in st agnes. and more than 20 years ago, i rented and lived in a flat here. during that period of time, the village has changed hugely. more businesses, more people, far more houses. but the last 12 months has seen a real accelerated pace of change due to the pandemic. cornwall�*s reputation for wild beauty is well deserved but economically, this isn't a rich county. an influx of investment is welcome, but there are concerns that higher prices paid by new arrivals will put prices out of reach for many local people. we welcome people wanting to come and live here, work here and contribute to the economy and vitality of the place. the problem is, though, it is depriving many of the local population, particularly the younger population, who want to stay here and thrive in cornwall, from becoming part of the community. it's tending to force them out somewhat. this is the old vicarage flats where we are proposing to turn, renovate four flats... and those working to create more affordable homes say it's important that there is a variety of housing available. the housing market is unaffordable for people here now. people earning 18, £20,000, they're never going to get onto the property ladder when average prices are around about 350,000 and more. and then that also reflects back into the rental market. so the unaffordability of renting too becomes an issue for local people as they grow up. the pandemic has changed much about the way we live our lives now and for many people it's the catalyst that will persuade them to make the leap and change their lives forever. 0urcamera giving 0ur camera giving you a glorious view_ 0ur camera giving you a glorious view of— 0ur camera giving you a glorious view of falmouth this morning. let's say good _ view of falmouth this morning. let's say good morning to one of cornwall's newest residents. jenny, when _ cornwall's newest residents. jenny, when did _ cornwall's newest residents. jenny, when did you move in? last wednesday- _ when did you move in? last wednesday. from - when did you move in? last wednesday. from woodley near reading in berkshire _ wednesday. from woodley near reading in berkshire o.— wednesday. from woodley near reading in berkshire. �* , ' in berkshire. a very different part ofthe in berkshire. a very different part of the uk- — in berkshire. a very different part of the uk- why — in berkshire. a very different part of the uk. why did _ in berkshire. a very different part of the uk. why did you _ in berkshire. a very different part of the uk. why did you move? i in berkshire. a very different part| of the uk. why did you move? we in berkshire. a very different part - of the uk. why did you move? we have loved cornwall — of the uk. why did you move? we have loved cornwall for _ of the uk. why did you move? we have loved cornwall for 30 _ of the uk. why did you move? we have loved cornwall for 30 years. _ of the uk. why did you move? we have loved cornwall for 30 years. it - of the uk. why did you move? we have loved cornwall for 30 years. it has - loved cornwall for 30 years. it has been _ loved cornwall for 30 years. it has been a _ loved cornwall for 30 years. it has been a long—held _ loved cornwall for 30 years. it has been a long—held ambition. - loved cornwall for 30 years. it has been a long—held ambition. the i been a long—held ambition. the chance — been a long—held ambition. the chance came _ been a long—held ambition. the chance came up _ been a long—held ambition. the chance came up so _ been a long—held ambition. the chance came up so we - been a long—held ambition. the chance came up so we took- been a long—held ambition. the chance came up so we took it. i been a long—held ambition. the - chance came up so we took it. what sort of effect _ chance came up so we took it. what sort of effect did _ chance came up so we took it. what sort of effect did the _ chance came up so we took it. sort of effect did the pandemic have? — sort of effect did the pandemic have? did it give you that impetus? in a strange — have? did it give you that impetus? in a strange way it did because my husband _ in a strange way it did because my husband was — in a strange way it did because my husband was made _ in a strange way it did because my husband was made redundant. - in a strange way it did because my. husband was made redundant. that in a strange way it did because my- husband was made redundant. that was what was _ husband was made redundant. that was what was keeping — husband was made redundant. that was what was keeping us. _ husband was made redundant. that was what was keeping us. you— husband was made redundant. that was what was keeping us.— what was keeping us. you have moved to redruth. what was keeping us. you have moved to redruth- it — what was keeping us. you have moved to redruth. it is— what was keeping us. you have moved to redruth. it is right _ what was keeping us. you have moved to redruth. it is right on _ what was keeping us. you have moved to redruth. it is right on the _ what was keeping us. you have moved to redruth. it is right on the spine - to redruth. it is right on the spine of cornwall, — to redruth. it is right on the spine of cornwall, the peninsular in the middle _ of cornwall, the peninsular in the middle. did you choose... what was the process— middle. did you choose... what was the process like? was it difficult to find _ the process like? was it difficult to find a — the process like? was it difficult to find a place? it the process like? was it difficult to find a place?— to find a place? it was difficult. houses go _ to find a place? it was difficult. houses go very _ to find a place? it was difficult. houses go very fast _ to find a place? it was difficult. houses go very fast down - to find a place? it was difficult. | houses go very fast down here. to find a place? it was difficult. - houses go very fast down here. we used _ houses go very fast down here. we used a _ houses go very fast down here. we used a property— houses go very fast down here. we used a property consultant. - houses go very fast down here. we used a property consultant. a - houses go very fast down here. we used a property consultant. a veryl used a property consultant. a very lovely— used a property consultant. a very lovely man — used a property consultant. a very lovely man but _ used a property consultant. a very lovely man. but we _ used a property consultant. a very lovely man. but we wanted - used a property consultant. a very lovely man. but we wanted a - lovely man. but we wanted a community _ lovely man. but we wanted a community. and _ lovely man. but we wanted a community. and transport. l lovely man. but we wanted a i community. and transport. to lovely man. but we wanted a - community. and transport. to be in the centre. — community. and transport. to be in the centre, really. _ community. and transport. to be in the centre, really. i— community. and transport. to be in the centre, really. ithink— community. and transport. to be in the centre, really. i think redruth l the centre, really. i think redruth offers— the centre, really. i think redruth offers all— the centre, really. i think redruth offers all of — the centre, really. i think redruth offers all of that. _ the centre, really. i think redruth offers all of that.— offers all of that. interesting, we were chatting _ offers all of that. interesting, we were chatting before _ offers all of that. interesting, we were chatting before and - offers all of that. interesting, we were chatting before and you - offers all of that. interesting, we | were chatting before and you said you were — were chatting before and you said you were attracted by cornwall, not 'ust you were attracted by cornwall, not just the _ you were attracted by cornwall, not just the summer cornwall, but the whole _ just the summer cornwall, but the whole year— just the summer cornwall, but the whole year around? we just the summer cornwall, but the whole year around?— just the summer cornwall, but the whole year around? we normally come out of season- — whole year around? we normally come out of season. we _ whole year around? we normally come out of season. we love _ whole year around? we normally come out of season. we love the _ whole year around? we normally come out of season. we love the beaches . out of season. we love the beaches for winter _ out of season. we love the beaches for winter but — out of season. we love the beaches for winter but not _ out of season. we love the beaches for winter but not for _ out of season. we love the beaches for winter but not for going - out of season. we love the beaches for winter but not for going to - out of season. we love the beaches for winter but not for going to in - for winter but not for going to in the summer _ for winter but not for going to in the summer. we _ for winter but not for going to in the summer. we have _ for winter but not for going to in the summer. we have seen- for winter but not for going to in the summer. we have seen it i for winter but not for going to in the summer. we have seen it at for winter but not for going to in i the summer. we have seen it at its best and _ the summer. we have seen it at its best and its— the summer. we have seen it at its best and its worst, _ the summer. we have seen it at its best and its worst, i _ the summer. we have seen it at its best and its worst, i think. - the summer. we have seen it at its best and its worst, i think.- best and its worst, i think. jenny, aood best and its worst, i think. jenny, good luck- _ best and its worst, i think. jenny, good luck. good _ best and its worst, i think. jenny, good luck. good luck— best and its worst, i think. jenny, good luck. good luck with - best and its worst, i think. jenny, good luck. good luck with your i good luck. good luck with your future — good luck. good luck with your future life. dave and i like a good morning — future life. dave and i like a good morning. you have come even further, down _ morning. you have come even further, down from _ morning. you have come even further, down from glasgow. when did you move? _ down from glasgow. when did you move? tote— down from glasgow. when did you move? ~ ., ., ., , ., ., move? we move down at the start of january this — move? we move down at the start of january this year- _ move? we move down at the start of january this year. for _ move? we move down at the start of january this year. for you, _ move? we move down at the start of january this year. for you, what i move? we move down at the start of january this year. for you, what was| january this year. for you, what was the process — january this year. for you, what was the process like? _ january this year. for you, what was the process like? was _ january this year. for you, what was the process like? was it _ january this year. for you, what was the process like? was it difficult i the process like? was it difficult to find _ the process like? was it difficult to find a — the process like? was it difficult to find a place?— to find a place? yeah, it was difficult- _ to find a place? yeah, it was difficult. so _ to find a place? yeah, it was difficult. so we _ to find a place? yeah, it was difficult. so we had - to find a place? yeah, it was difficult. so we had decided| to find a place? yeah, it was i difficult. so we had decided last year we — difficult. so we had decided last year we wanted _ difficult. so we had decided last year we wanted to _ difficult. so we had decided last year we wanted to move. - difficult. so we had decided last year we wanted to move. and . difficult. so we had decided last i year we wanted to move. and the first part — year we wanted to move. and the first part of — year we wanted to move. and the first part of the _ year we wanted to move. and the first part of the process _ year we wanted to move. and the first part of the process for- year we wanted to move. and the first part of the process for us i year we wanted to move. and the | first part of the process for us was looking _ first part of the process for us was looking for— first part of the process for us was looking foriobs~ _ first part of the process for us was looking forjobs. once _ first part of the process for us was looking forjobs. once we - first part of the process for us was looking forjobs. once we had i first part of the process for us was looking forjobs. once we had a i first part of the process for us was l looking forjobs. once we had a job, we had _ looking forjobs. once we had a job, we had to— looking forjobs. once we had a job, we had to find — looking forjobs. once we had a job, we had to find a _ looking forjobs. once we had a job, we had to find a home, _ looking forjobs. once we had a job, we had to find a home, which - looking forjobs. once we had a job, we had to find a home, which is i we had to find a home, which is difficult — we had to find a home, which is difficult as— we had to find a home, which is difficult. asjenny_ we had to find a home, which is difficult. asjenny said, - we had to find a home, which is difficult. asjenny said, the i we had to find a home, which is i difficult. asjenny said, the houses io difficult. asjenny said, the houses go very— difficult. asjenny said, the houses go very quickly— difficult. asjenny said, the houses go very quickly down _ difficult. asjenny said, the houses go very quickly down here. - difficult. asjenny said, the houses go very quickly down here. but i go very quickly down here. but things— go very quickly down here. but things clicked _ go very quickly down here. but things clicked in _ go very quickly down here. but things clicked in and _ go very quickly down here. but things clicked in and we - go very quickly down here. but things clicked in and we got i go very quickly down here. buti things clicked in and we got the house _ things clicked in and we got the house we — things clicked in and we got the house we wanted. _ things clicked in and we got the house we wanted. was - things clicked in and we got the house we wanted.— things clicked in and we got the house we wanted. was it a long-held ambition to — house we wanted. was it a long-held ambition to come _ house we wanted. was it a long-held ambition to come here? _ house we wanted. was it a long-held ambition to come here? yeah, i house we wanted. was it a long-held ambition to come here? yeah, my i house we wanted. was it a long-held i ambition to come here? yeah, my wife has family down _ ambition to come here? yeah, my wife has family down here. _ ambition to come here? yeah, my wife has family down here. so _ ambition to come here? yeah, my wife has family down here. so we _ ambition to come here? yeah, my wife has family down here. so we have i has family down here. so we have been _ has family down here. so we have been coming _ has family down here. so we have been coming here _ has family down here. so we have been coming here for— has family down here. so we have been coming here for a _ has family down here. so we have been coming here for a number. has family down here. so we have been coming here for a number of years— been coming here for a number of years both — been coming here for a number of years both during _ been coming here for a number of years both during season - been coming here for a number of years both during season and i been coming here for a number of years both during season and outi been coming here for a number of. years both during season and out of season _ years both during season and out of season it _ years both during season and out of season it is — years both during season and out of season. it is something _ years both during season and out of season. it is something we - years both during season and out of season. it is something we have i season. it is something we have spoken— season. it is something we have spoken about _ season. it is something we have spoken about and _ season. it is something we have spoken about and thought - season. it is something we havej spoken about and thought about season. it is something we have i spoken about and thought about for a number— spoken about and thought about for a number of— spoken about and thought about for a number of years _ spoken about and thought about for a number of years. we _ spoken about and thought about for a number of years. we just _ spoken about and thought about for a number of years. we just hadn't i spoken about and thought about for a number of years. we just hadn't ever| number of years. we just hadn't ever fully acted _ number of years. we just hadn't ever fully acted on— number of years. we just hadn't ever fully acted on it _ number of years. we 'ust hadn't ever fully acted on it.— fully acted on it. what was the attraction? — fully acted on it. what was the attraction? it's _ fully acted on it. what was the attraction? it's a _ fully acted on it. what was the attraction? it's a completely i attraction? it's a completely different lifestyle _ attraction? it's a completely different lifestyle for - attraction? it's a completely different lifestyle for islay i attraction? it's a completely i different lifestyle for islay and her younger _ different lifestyle for islay and her younger sister. _ different lifestyle for islay and her younger sister. why - different lifestyle for islay and her younger sister. why not i different lifestyle for islay and i her younger sister. why not live somewhere _ her younger sister. why not live somewhere that _ her younger sister. why not live somewhere that is _ her younger sister. why not live somewhere that is beautiful- her younger sister. why not livel somewhere that is beautiful year round? _ somewhere that is beautiful year round? �* ., ~' somewhere that is beautiful year round? �* ., ~ round? and finding work as well, that's interesting. _ round? and finding work as well, that's interesting. what - round? and finding work as well, that's interesting. what was i round? and finding work as well, that's interesting. what was that| that's interesting. what was that process— that's interesting. what was that process like? it that's interesting. what was that process like?— process like? it was a little bit different to — process like? it was a little bit different to usual— process like? it was a little bit different to usual because i process like? it was a little bit different to usual because you j process like? it was a little bit i different to usual because you are doing _ different to usual because you are doing it _ different to usual because you are doing it remotely. _ different to usual because you are doing it remotely. but— different to usual because you are doing it remotely. but i— different to usual because you are doing it remotely. but i think- different to usual because you are doing it remotely. but i think duel doing it remotely. but i think due to the _ doing it remotely. but i think due to the pandemic _ doing it remotely. but i think due to the pandemic a _ doing it remotely. but i think due to the pandemic a lot _ doing it remotely. but i think due to the pandemic a lot of- doing it remotely. but i think due i to the pandemic a lot of employers had got _ to the pandemic a lot of employers had got used — to the pandemic a lot of employers had got used to— to the pandemic a lot of employers had got used to the _ to the pandemic a lot of employers had got used to the fact _ to the pandemic a lot of employers had got used to the fact that - to the pandemic a lot of employers had got used to the fact that you i had got used to the fact that you would _ had got used to the fact that you would be — had got used to the fact that you would be interviewing _ had got used to the fact that you would be interviewing remotely. | had got used to the fact that you i would be interviewing remotely. all interviews _ would be interviewing remotely. all interviews were _ would be interviewing remotely. all interviews were through _ would be interviewing remotely. all interviews were through zoom i would be interviewing remotely. all interviews were through zoom or. interviews were through zoom or microsoft — interviews were through zoom or microsoft teams. _ interviews were through zoom or microsoft teams. that _ interviews were through zoom or microsoft teams. that made i interviews were through zoom or microsoft teams. that made it. interviews were through zoom or microsoft teams. that made ital microsoft teams. that made it a little _ microsoft teams. that made it a little bit — microsoft teams. that made it a little bit easier— microsoft teams. that made it a little bit easier for— microsoft teams. that made it a little bit easier for me _ microsoft teams. that made it a little bit easier for me being i little bit easier for me being someone _ little bit easier for me being someone who— little bit easier for me being someone who wasn't - little bit easier for me being someone who wasn't local i little bit easier for me being - someone who wasn't local enough to id someone who wasn't local enough to go into— someone who wasn't local enough to go into an _ someone who wasn't local enough to go into an office _ someone who wasn't local enough to go into an office interview. _ someone who wasn't local enough to go into an office interview. it- someone who wasn't local enough to go into an office interview.— go into an office interview. it has been a massive _ go into an office interview. it has been a massive change. - go into an office interview. it has been a massive change. islay, i go into an office interview. it has i been a massive change. islay, what do you _ been a massive change. islay, what do you most— been a massive change. islay, what do you most like about living here? i love _ do you most like about living here? i love my— do you most like about living here? i love my new school and i love being _ i love my new school and i love being on — i love my new school and i love being on the _ i love my new school and i love being on the beach. _ i love my new school and i love being on the beach.— i love my new school and i love being on the beach. what do you en'o being on the beach. what do you enjoy doing _ being on the beach. what do you enjoy doing at — being on the beach. what do you enjoy doing at school? _ being on the beach. what do you enjoy doing at school? playing i being on the beach. what do you i enjoy doing at school? playing with m friends enjoy doing at school? playing with my friends in _ enjoy doing at school? playing with my friends in the _ enjoy doing at school? playing with my friends in the playground. i've i my friends in the playground. i've heard your _ my friends in the playground. heard your teacher is very good. thank— heard your teacher is very good. thank you — heard your teacher is very good. thank you for talking to us. good luck to _ thank you for talking to us. good luck tojenny, she has got a job interview— luck tojenny, she has got a job interview this morning at ten o'clock _ interview this morning at ten o'clock i_ interview this morning at ten o'clock. i forgot to wish her good luck earlier _ o'clock. i forgot to wish her good luck earlier. we have been talking throughout the morning about cornwall, the postcard cornwall, how it looks _ cornwall, the postcard cornwall, how it looks on _ cornwall, the postcard cornwall, how it looks on the forge box. it is a county— it looks on the forge box. it is a county with— it looks on the forge box. it is a county with some areas of social deprivation, not a rich county. so it's important also that that a share — it's important also that that a share of— it's important also that that a share of housing is available. but interesting times. yet again another perhaps— interesting times. yet again another perhaps unintended consequence of the pandemic, persuading people to make _ the pandemic, persuading people to make that _ the pandemic, persuading people to make that big life change and hopefully come and i'm sure it will be, hopefully come and i'm sure it will be it— hopefully come and i'm sure it will be, it changes very 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know, there you go. that is the _ and can't. i know, there you go. that is the thing _ and can't. i know, there you go. that is the thing on _ and can't. i know, there you go. that is the thing on lots - and can't. i know, there you go. that is the thing on lots of- and can't. i know, there you go. | that is the thing on lots of mines at the minute, getting a potential breakaway at some stage in the uk. if you have got one lined up, enjoy yourself. time now to get the news, travel and weather where you are. hopefully you have as good if view asjohn hopefully you have as good if view as john has. good morning, i'm asad ahmad. police searching for a 2k year—old man who was mistakenly released from wormwood scrubs prison in west london have issued new images to help find him. william fernandez was on remand awaiting trial for sexual assault. the prison mistakenly freed him last wednesday when it's thought he went to get the tube from east acton station. he was last seen in harrow. police are appealing for information about his whereabouts. lawyers for victims of the grenfell fire have accused kensington and chelsea council, who owned the tower block, of neglect, indifference and discrimination towards residents. the inquiry into the 2017 fire which killed 72 people heard claims that residents who raised safety concerns before the tragedy were "bullied" and "stigmatised". the claims are denied by building managers and the council. a london mental health charity says pregnant women and new mothers are three times more likely to suffer poor mental health in the wake of the coronavirus pandemic. the maternal mental health alliance found gaps in health services which led to greater anxiety among a majority of new mums, who've given birth over the past year. the alliance is looking at providing more support to mothers like the former masterchef winner and nhs doctor. i remember being in the room and everybody was looking after me and saying, "are you 0k, are you 0k?" and i wanted to cry, but i was so excited that my baby was coming into the world that i had to control those emotions and those tears. and just look forward and positively to the arrival of this baby, you know. let's take a look at the travel situation now. hammersmith and city line has severe delays because of train cancellations. on the roads, a lane is closed for gas works in both directions on great chertsey road. that's as you head to and from the hospital bridge roundabout. a lane is closed for traffic light repairs on finborough road one way street at the junction with old brompton road. and a lane is closed on the a3 for engineering works towards putney. now the weather with kate. good morning. yesterday we saw the warmest day of the year so far, stjames's park got up to 20.a celsius. and today it is set to get a little warmer. chilly start this morning, temperatures for most down in single figures. but it's a bright start, plenty of sunshine, the wind is light today and we're looking at a maximum temperature of 23 celsius. overnight tonight, again, clear skies. temperatures dropping perhaps not quite as low as last night but quite wide—ranging. we are looking at a minimum out towards parts of essex and the east around four celsius, whereas central london staying somewhere around ten celsius. for tomorrow, it's another warm day. we are hanging on to the warm air, and similar for thursday as well. but notice we start to just see that colder air moving south as we head through thursday and into friday. so temperatures, low 20s for the next couple of days, come friday, quite a dramatic temperature drop, just in time, of course, for the easter weekend. tunein tune in to vanessa on bbc radio london, until10am. hello, this is breakfast with sally nugent and dan walker. "morning live" follows breakfast on bbc one. let's find out what's on today's show with gethin and kym. good morning, both of you. coming up on morning live. with the weather expected to be hotter than ibiza in some places today and restrictions eased across the whole of the uk, many of us will be meeting up with friends and family for the first time in months. we'll be asking dr punam krishan the best way to do it safely and about the latest on the rise in the r number. if you've got a question for dr punam, send it in to us now. also on the show — we'll be on the front line with some hobbies on the beat in lancashire, who say policing the pandemic — and dealing with the lockdown rule breakers has put them under more pressure than ever before. and we're joined by tv presenterjulia bradbury, who's opening up about her diagnosis of endometriosis. it's as common as diabetes and asthma and it costs the economy £8 billion a year, but over half of the uk aren't even aware of this life changing condition. she'll tell you how to spot the signs. plus, it's this year's biggest trend so far, we're talking about easter crafts. after a disappointing christmas, so many people are pulling out the stops with their easter decorations and mark lane will be showing you a simple way to make some of your own. there he is! daffodils, the big question. we're raising the temperature inside today too as neiljones takes us through today's strictly fitness. you'll need a seat for this one, but you won't be taking it easy! do we need maracas? 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deliveroo is blaming wider turbulence in the markets which have, understandably, been very unpredictable over the last year. but there are other issues at play. deliveroo riders who drop off the food are not staff members. they are paid for every meal they drop off, not for the time they work. that's how the gig economy works but shaf is one of the workers who says it isn't fair. i want to be paid a decent amount. i'm not asking for £100 every day, i'm not asking for £100 every day, i'm asking for at least an amount, and hourly guarantee or an hourly wage that offsites the time i spend. if i spend an hour or two hours and if i spend an hour or two hours and i don't do delivery, i want to be able to be paid for those missed hours that i have spent waiting. are things changing? you'll remember a couple of weeks ago the taxi company uber reclassified its drivers as workers after a landmark legal case. now those workers are entitled to things like the minimum wage and holiday pay. if deliveroo ends up doing the same, it's going to cost them. some investors are also worried about the way the shares are being shared. because deliveroo�*s founder will shu will ultimately retain the final say on any big decisions. also investors like profit. and deliveroo has yet to deliver one. but that won't stop investors placing bets on its future later today. how far they're willing to go will tell us something about how big money is feeling about the future of the economy, and of workers' rights. and those are things that affect us all. if you think about it, we are 12 and a half days away from pubs and restaurants reopening so at that point, instead of being its £30 per week spending on takeaways, we will probably go out and spend a bit more, so will these business models still have the same appeal in a few weeks? 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everybody. i would say especially my mom, my twin, i mean, they are always my rocks. my dog, lulu, because to her, i'm still the same. nothing's changed, i still have to pick her poop, you know what i mean, and rub her belly, there is no hierarchy there. but, yeah, my family and my friends especially. it's wild, especially my closest friends because they will, like, see me on the news or on the cover of something like that and we're still like sending each other useless memes and things like that. and so they really, everybody in my village really keeps me down to earth. let's talk about the inauguration, shall we? i was really interested in the process you put in place when you were thinking about the words that were going to go in the hill we climb. i don't know if you'd named it already. had you named the poem before it finished? no, i had no idea what the poem was called. i was just writing it into my documents. it was like, the inaugural poem, you know, very descriptive. and i didn't know what the title was. and it wasn't until i had, you know, honestly really finished the poem that i looked at that line that said, you know, "the hill we climb, if only we dare it", and i was like, "that's it." that is the promise to glade, the hill we climb, if only we dare it. it's because being american is more than a pride we inherit. it's the past we step into and how we repair it. it works, i think, for me on so many levels, and so, it's definitely a line i'll continue to say for the rest of my life. and it's interesting how every line mattered to the point that, at some point, only one line a day was being concluded. and i want you to tell me about how the events on capitol hill onjanuary the 6th, impacted you and in terms of the importance of your poem? yeah, well, you're so right about every word mattering, especially in poetry. actually, when i first began writing, i had only five minutes of allotted time from the inaugural committee. and afterjanuary 6th, i was like, "this poem is six minutes, and it's going to stay that way, because there's actually a lot more that needs to get said." but it was at january 6th, you know, with the insurrection at the capitol, where i was seeing the way in which democracy in my country was being desecrated, that i really began to work with a much sharper knife and actually began to find a lot more material that did the most with the minutes, with the seconds that it had, because i was working with an event that was so tectonic, so shocking, that those words had to kind of be like stones in a slingshot, like i only get a few kind of aiming shots to really get my words in. i have to make sure that those have the impact that's needed after we've seen this type of horror. for there is always light, if only we're brave enough to see it, if only we're brave enough to be it. i want to talk about bravery and the bravery to speak out. and you'll be very aware there's a huge debate about race across the world, but particularly here in the uk right now, some of it around meghan markle and prince harry's interview. how important do you think it is that women of colour today feel free to express their opinion, however uncomfortable it might be at times for others to hear? from a young age, my mom always raised me to celebrate my voice. for example, whenever i stood up to a bully, my mom would throw a little celebration. i would come home and be like, "mom, i stood up for myself today." and she would be so excited and so proud, and so it was training me from this age to really value my voice. but the other thing that i will say about the importance of bravery is it not only necessitates courage on the part of women of colour, but also courage on the part of our allies. so often the conversation is around kind of what women of colour can do to empower, save, etc, protect ourselves. but really, i think it has to be a collaboration in a partnership, or it takes other identity groups saying, "actually, i am an ally, i am a friend, what can i do to pay my own power forward?" and so i'm so excited to see those types of conversations happening. do you think the duchess of sussex, or meghan markle, was brave to speak up? 0h, absolutely. yeah, definitely brave. i admire her so much. i've got to ask you as well. a huge admirer of the outfits. i'm assuming, a massive fan of yellow? yes, i love yellow. you love yellow, you wear it very well, iwill say, obviously, for what that's worth. the headbands, could you just run me through how your headbands are stored, how many you have, what the collection is right now? i'm so bad with storing them because i keep dropping them and, i'm like, "amanda, this is why we can't have nice things." i had a few headbands before the inauguration and obviously i wore one then, and now i've been shipped, like, the country's collection of headbands. i have so many. and so i keep them in my closet on this sort of minitower and it's really great but i have to be careful with it now because if i wear any of those dozens of headbands, people see me and are like, "that's amanda gorman." so now, i get to wear it with you, and this is a special moment. thank you. amanda gorman, thank you so much for your time. i wish you all the best. thank you so much. brilliant interview. interesting to learn a bit more about her. shot to fame that day, now a huge name around the world.— fame that day, now a huge name around the world. leading the way up to 23, unbelievable. _ around the world. leading the way up to 23, unbelievable. just _ around the world. leading the way up to 23, unbelievable. just coming - around the world. leading the way up to 23, unbelievable. just coming up i to 23, unbelievable. just coming up to 23, unbelievable. just coming up to quarter to nine, you are watching breakfast. it will be a beautiful day across most of the uk. let's have a look, this is the gorgeous scene in falmouth this morning. john maauire scene in falmouth this morning. john maguire has — scene in falmouth this morning. jam maguire has been there throughout the morning talking about various people from other parts of the uk moving to places like falmouth and other parts of cornwall as well. he spoke to somebody who came all the way from scotland and moved there, someone who arrived last week and has a job interview a 10am this morning! it's all happening. mat morning! it's all happening. not eas , morning! it's all happening. not easy, property very much in demand to buy or rent, very difficult to get a toe hold there. find to buy or rent, very difficult to get a toe hold there.— to buy or rent, very difficult to get a toe hold there. and it makes it harder for _ get a toe hold there. and it makes it harder for those _ get a toe hold there. and it makes it harder for those who _ get a toe hold there. and it makes it harder for those who cannot - it harder for those who cannot afford housing to get on the property ladder in the first place. you can see why it is attractive, you can see that beautiful shot. you said most of the uk, carol will probably point out it is not gorgeous everywhere, how are you, carol? no, it's not, thank you, dan, i'm very well, hope you are as well. we do have heavy and persistent rain across the north and west of scotland which could lead to issues with localised flooding but for most of the uk it is warm and sunny, variable amounts of cloud across scotland and northern ireland which will break at times, but as we head into the easter weekend, particularly sunday and monday, it will be colder and overnight frost, some of us will even see some wintry showers. today this weather front is producing rain across north—west scotland have at high pressure is dominating our weather so things are basically fine and settled for most. some 20 day across england, wales, the channel islands, the cloud in northern ireland and scotland will break in eastern areas at times, but this heavy and persistent rain will remain across northern and western scotland. the wind through the day will tend to ease. temperatures under the will tend to ease. temperatures underthe rain, will tend to ease. temperatures under the rain, eight to 11. will tend to ease. temperatures underthe rain, eight to 11. as will tend to ease. temperatures under the rain, eight to 11. as we come south, the temperature progressively gets higher, 23 likely to be the highest. if it reaches that, it will be the warmest day of the year so far. this evening and overnight we have a band of rain, if anything it will slip a bit further south across more of scotland and into northern ireland, and at the same time we will have this low cloud lapping onshore from the irish sea. generally speaking, not as cold across england, part of wales, as it was last night, but colder across scotland and northern ireland. as we head through tomorrow, the weather front continues to make its way south, high pressure still clinging on by the skin of its teeth across england and wales, so still a lot of settled in dry conditions and a lot of sunshine. towards the west, the low cloud lapping onshore at times and later we could see some more cloud, turning the sunshine hazy across southern areas. as this weather front sinks south taking the patchy rain across scotland and northern ireland, behind it it will turn colder and the showers will turn colder and the showers will turn wintry on the tops of the mountains. temperatures in the sunshine up to 22 or 23 degrees, quite widely, across england and wales. six in lerwick, ten in aberdeen and 1a in northern ireland. aberdeen and 1a in northern ireland. a bit coolerfor you. on aberdeen and 1a in northern ireland. a bit cooler for you. on thursday, here is the weak weather front pressing across parts of england and wales as a band of cloud, the odd spot of rain and cloudy day, towards the west a bit brighter. southern areas will see the lion's share of the sunshine, still hanging on to the sunshine, still hanging on to the higher temperatures here, much lower as we push further north. into the easter weekend, you can see the front eventually does make it down towards the south, a new area of high pressure takes over. look at the temperatures, light blue replaced as we go through the easter weekend by dark blue. it will turn much colder, especially on sunday and monday. there will be some wintry showers, most of them will be on higher ground, but some of us might see a little bit at lower levels. we could see some wintry conditions on the top of the hills even as far south as southern england. that is a lot to play for, still a long way away and i will keep you updated in the next couple of days. thank you, have a lovely tuesday, enjoy yourself. thank you, have a lovely tuesday, enjoy yourself-— thank you, have a lovely tuesday, enjoy yourself.- she - thank you, have a lovely tuesday, enjoy yourself.- she will l thank you, have a lovely tuesday, l enjoy yourself.- she will be enjoy yourself. you too. she will be honin: enjoy yourself. you too. she will be phoning me — enjoy yourself. you too. she will be phoning me with — enjoy yourself. you too. she will be phoning me with a _ enjoy yourself. you too. she will be phoning me with a personal- enjoy yourself. you too. she will be | phoning me with a personal weather forecast _ phoning me with a personal weather forecast. �* ~ ., , phoning me with a personal weather forecast. �* . ., , ., , forecast. actually, when do i get my -hone forecast. actually, when do i get my phone call? 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"the syndicate" is back on our screens tonight, with a brilliant new cast of characters. let's take a look. nothing on it. never mind. fanfare. what is it, what's happening? it says you've won something. will you turn that racket off? it seems you've won 500 quid, how about that, then? no way. are you serious? yeah, it says pay from till. i don't know if i've got enough, i'll have to check. oh, my god! i don't believe it! how much have you got in your till? i don't know. how much have you won? 500 quid. oh, my god, wow! hey. that's a nice birthday present. you can pay your debts off now as well. two, four, six, eight, ten, 100. drama! what's going on! joining us now is the bafta award—winning writer kay mellor, and katherine rose morley, who plays keeley in the new series. good morning to you both. morning! mornina! good morning to you both. morning! morning! lovely _ good morning to you both. morning! morning! lovely to _ good morning to you both. morning! morning! lovely to see _ good morning to you both. morning! morning! lovely to see you - good morning to you both. morning! morning! lovely to see you both, - morning! lovely to see you both, ka , i morning! lovely to see you both, kay. i have _ morning! lovely to see you both, kay. i have to — morning! lovely to see you both, kay, i have to ask _ morning! lovely to see you both, kay, i have to ask you, _ morning! lovely to see you both, kay, i have to ask you, this - morning! lovely to see you both, kay, i have to ask you, this is - morning! lovely to see you both, | kay, i have to ask you, this is the full series of the syndicate, but quite a long break between them, what happened?— quite a long break between them, what happened? well, the controller of drama at the _ what happened? well, the controller of drama at the bbc _ what happened? well, the controller of drama at the bbc asked _ what happened? well, the controller of drama at the bbc asked me - what happened? well, the controller of drama at the bbc asked me if - what happened? well, the controller of drama at the bbc asked me if i . of drama at the bbc asked me if i had any other ideas, and i was just about to pitch in some thoughts that i had, and he said, i rememberyou telling me that you had another the syndicate, which i did, actually. another idea for it. and it suddenly came bubbling up to the top. and the two of us were sort of colliding with our thoughts, that i wanted to do another syndicate, and i helped the plot and the characters. find do another syndicate, and i helped the plot and the characters. and he trusted me. — the plot and the characters. and he trusted me, bless _ the plot and the characters. and he trusted me, bless him. _ the plot and the characters. and he trusted me, bless him. i _ the plot and the characters. and he trusted me, bless him. ithink- the plot and the characters. and he trusted me, bless him. i think he i trusted me, bless him. i think he probably went on your track record which isn't bad, to be honest! without giving too much away, what is the basic plot of this one? the basic lot is the basic plot of this one? the basic plot of _ is the basic plot of this one? the basic plot of this _ is the basic plot of this one? tue: basic plot of this one is the basic plot of this one? t'te: basic plot of this one is is the basic plot of this one? tte: basic plot of this one is five kennel workers, who win the lottery, they think that they have one small amount, relatively small amount, 500. and then they become suspicious that they have actually won a bit more than that. so they go back to the newsagent to find out, to check their numbers, and then the newsagent has gone with the ticket. so will they find the ticket and will they find the newsagent? filth. so will they find the ticket and will they find the newsagent? oh, my aoodness. i will they find the newsagent? oh, my goodness. i know! _ will they find the newsagent? oh, my goodness. i know! and _ will they find the newsagent? oh, my goodness. i know! and these - will they find the newsagent? oh, my goodness. i know! and these kennel| goodness. i know! and these kennel workers and — goodness. i know! and these kennel workers and such _ goodness. i know! and these kennel workers and such a _ goodness. i know! and these kennel workers and such a little _ goodness. i know! and these kennel workers and such a little amount - goodness. i know! and these kennel workers and such a little amount of| workers and such a little amount of money, literally £12,000 a year. so each and every one of them needs the money to survive. they have debts, they have nowhere to stay, they can't pay their rent. there is all sorts of problems that these five young people have. and winning the lottery could be massive for them. and it's your character that we see in the newsagent they're getting the good news about the, well, what we thought was £500 at the time. how quickly do things unravel? tt’s quickly do things unravel? it's re quickly do things unravel? it's pretty quickly. that's what kay does so great, _ pretty quickly. that's what kay does so great, she is straight out of the blocks _ so great, she is straight out of the blocks you — so great, she is straight out of the blocks. you will see the drama unfold — blocks. you will see the drama unfold pretty early in episode one, which _ unfold pretty early in episode one, which i _ unfold pretty early in episode one, which i think it's quite exciting. there's— which i think it's quite exciting. there's no— which i think it's quite exciting. there's no hanging around, we are straight _ there's no hanging around, we are straight into— there's no hanging around, we are straight into the storyline. andy it is fairly— straight into the storyline. andy it is fairly quick before they realise something is not right. a question for both of you. _ something is not right. a question for both of you. why _ something is not right. a question for both of you. why are _ something is not right. a question for both of you. why are we - something is not right. a question for both of you. why are we also l for both of you. why are we also fascinated with what happens when people win a big amount of money? —— why are we also fascinated? t people win a big amount of money? -- why are we also fascinated?— why are we also fascinated? i think it is 'ust why are we also fascinated? i think it is just so — why are we also fascinated? i think it isjust so unfathomable - why are we also fascinated? i think it isjust so unfathomable to - why are we also fascinated? i think it isjust so unfathomable to us. i. it isjust so unfathomable to us. i don't _ it isjust so unfathomable to us. i don't know— it isjust so unfathomable to us. i don't know about you, but i know what _ don't know about you, but i know what i _ don't know about you, but i know what i could — don't know about you, but i know what i could do with £1000. if somebody said, what do you do with 27 million. _ somebody said, what do you do with 27 million, you can't quite get your head _ 27 million, you can't quite get your head around — 27 million, you can't quite get your head around it. so we have always fantasised — head around it. so we have always fantasised about that question, it 'ust fantasised about that question, it just seems so untouchable. and is art of it, just seems so untouchable. and is part of it. kay. _ just seems so untouchable. and is part of it, kay, that _ just seems so untouchable. and is part of it, kay, that we _ just seems so untouchable. and is part of it, kay, that we like - just seems so untouchable. and is part of it, kay, that we like to - just seems so untouchable. and is part of it, kay, that we like to see | part of it, kay, that we like to see it go a little bit wrong? filth. part of it, kay, that we like to see it go a little bit wrong?— it go a little bit wrong? oh, yes! thins it go a little bit wrong? oh, yes! things always — it go a little bit wrong? oh, yes! things always go _ it go a little bit wrong? oh, yes! things always go wrong - it go a little bit wrong? oh, yes! things always go wrong in - it go a little bit wrong? oh, yes! things always go wrong in my i it go a little bit wrong? oh, yes! - things always go wrong in my dramas. that's where the anarchy and the mischief in the finance. —— and the fun is. and my syndicate are not saints by a long chalk. they have all got ways in which they try and get the money, first of all, they need to follow the newsagent and they need money to do that. i'm not giving too much away, in saying that they end up out of this country, following him to monaco. the land of money and wealth. and they have to get the fare to go there. so each and every one of them compromises themselves to get there. but the thing that i like writing, why i like writing about lottery winners is because it is life changing. there is nothing else, well, there is, giving birth to a child, which i have written about. winning an amazing amount of money, those things are really life changing and make you question your moral compass. and, yeah, what would you do with a large amount of money? would you keep it all, do you give it away? do you give to charity? what do you do? it tells us a lot about the person, what they actually do with the money, actually. kan}. do with the money, actually. kay, are ou do with the money, actually. kay, are you in — do with the money, actually. kay, are you in a _ do with the money, actually. kay, are you in a syndicate _ do with the money, actually. kay, are you in a syndicate yourself? hey, listen, i have won the lottery! i've got a dream job, myjob is the bestjob in the world. i get to tell stories and share them with people. and that for me is in the military. if i won —— is winning the lottery. if i won —— is winning the lottery. if i won a lot of money, i would probably, i don't know, give it away or set up a centre for homeless people, or, you know, all the actors and writers, to tell stories, and get people off the streets to come in. i don't know what i would do with it. i'd do something like that because i have enough money and i have been given a wealth of riches in myjob. t have been given a wealth of riches in m 'ob. ., ., i. ., ., in my 'ob. i love that you have won the in my job. i love that you have won the lottery — in my job. i love that you have won the lottery already, _ in my job. i love that you have won the lottery already, that's - in my job. i love that you have won the lottery already, that's a - the lottery already, that's a fantastic attitude. what was it like filming? we are living in very different times, what was it like for you and the cast? like different times, what was it like for you and the cast?— different times, what was it like for you and the cast? like i said, it was like _ for you and the cast? like i said, it was like winning _ for you and the cast? like i said, it was like winning the _ for you and the cast? like i said, it was like winning the lottery --| it was like winning the lottery —— like kay— it was like winning the lottery —— like kay said, it was like winning the lottery— like kay said, it was like winning the lotteryjust getting back to work — the lotteryjust getting back to work. we had such long hiatus from when _ work. we had such long hiatus from when it— work. we had such long hiatus from when it was— work. we had such long hiatus from when it was meant to start, there is so much _ when it was meant to start, there is so much excitement and joy, one commented to be back at work but also doing — commented to be back at work but also doing this amazing job that we are also— also doing this amazing job that we are also excited and passionate about — are also excited and passionate about. we had such a great time. we were surrounded by dogs, it's set in a kennel— were surrounded by dogs, it's set in a kennel so — were surrounded by dogs, it's set in a kennel so we had dogs all day every— a kennel so we had dogs all day every day— a kennel so we had dogs all day every day which is just the dream 'ob. every day which is just the dream ioh and — every day which is just the dream job. and we just had a great time. there _ job. and we just had a great time. there were — job. and we just had a great time. there were restrictions, it was different. _ there were restrictions, it was different, we had to figure out this new way— different, we had to figure out this new way of— different, we had to figure out this new way of how it's going to work, but we _ new way of how it's going to work, but we just— new way of how it's going to work, but we just really did have a great time _ but we just really did have a great time and — but we just really did have a great time and i— but we just really did have a great time. and i think all of us came together, — time. and i think all of us came together, so passionate about kay's script _ together, so passionate about kay's script and — together, so passionate about kay's script. and hopefully everyone else will enjoy— script. and hopefully everyone else will enjoy it just as much as we did _ will en'oy it 'ust as much as we did. ., ~ will en'oy it 'ust as much as we did. . ~ ., ., , did. talking about the dogs, kay, this is definitely _ did. talking about the dogs, kay, this is definitely a _ did. talking about the dogs, kay, this is definitely a drama - did. talking about the dogs, kay, this is definitely a drama for - did. talking about the dogs, kay, this is definitely a drama for dog | this is definitely a drama for dog lovers. you have shoehorned them in everywhere. lovers. you have shoehorned them in everywhere-— everywhere. they work in a kennel, ou know! everywhere. they work in a kennel, you know! exactly! _ everywhere. they work in a kennel, you know! exactly! we _ everywhere. they work in a kennel, you know! exactly! we all— everywhere. they work in a kennel, you know! exactly! we all love - everywhere. they work in a kennel, l you know! exactly! we all love dogs. part of the question _ you know! exactly! we all love dogs. part of the question to _ you know! exactly! we all love dogs. part of the question to the _ you know! exactly! we all love dogs. part of the question to the cast - you know! exactly! we all love dogs. part of the question to the cast is - part of the question to the cast is about getting the job was, do you like dogs? if you are fearful of dogs or if you have any allergies, you aren't going to be able to be in this. my own little dog styles and it is well, —— happy, he is a star on it. but he was very reluctant, he didn't like going to work. come on, we are going to work! it stand in the corner not wanting to go at all. it was gorgeous because we all got to play with the dogs and it was wonderful. can ijust shout out my cast? they were absolutely brilliant. during covid, they couldn't go home like most actors do on a weekend, they had to stay there, and stay in their bubble, so they didn't see their family and friends during the shoot, which was an incredible thing for young people to do. i was so proud of them. because they knew that they could take the shoot down if they mixed. and that's hard enough for grown—ups! but a young cast, it was amazing. grown-ups! but a young cast, it was amazinu. �* , grown-ups! but a young cast, it was amazinu. . i. grown-ups! but a young cast, it was amazinu. . grown-ups! but a young cast, it was amazinu. �* ., amazing. and kay, you said you had an extra syndicate _ amazing. and kay, you said you had an extra syndicate up _ amazing. and kay, you said you had an extra syndicate up your- amazing. and kay, you said you had an extra syndicate up your sleeve, i an extra syndicate up your sleeve, have you got one more lined up in case you need another series? funnily enough...! case you need another series? funnily enough. . . i— case you need another series? funnily enough. . .! i funnily enough...! involving dogs? i don't know. — funnily enough...! involving dogs? i don't know. may _ funnily enough...! involving dogs? i don't know, may be, _ funnily enough...! involving dogs? i don't know, may be, yeah, - funnily enough...! involving dogs? i don't know, may be, yeah, why - funnily enough...! involving dogs? i | don't know, may be, yeah, why not? come on, happy, going to work again! a sequel! all the best, looks fantastic. well done as well, catherine, you are brilliant in it. "the syndicate" is on bbc one tonight at nine o'clock. you're watching bbc breakfast. it's 8:59. good morning, this is bbc news. i'm victoria derbyshire, here are the headlines this tuesday morning 0n front pages around the world, borisjohnson joins over 20 other leaders in calling for a global treaty to prepare forfuture pandemics. coronavirus probably originated in bats, before infecting humans — the conclusion of a long—awaited world health organization report seen by the bbc. dozens of high profile stars join a campaign by sir lenny henry to encourage black people to get the covid—19 vaccine. he says trust the facts and get the jab. it was good, it didn't hurt. it was fine, there were no after—effects. we sat afterwards in the place altogether, nobody quite talking to each other. not a biscuit. not even a biscuit, not even a cup of tea. if you're black and have decided not to have the vaccine yet, tell us the reasons why.

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