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send your questions to us by using the hashtag bbc your questions on twitter or by emailing yourquestions@bbc.co.uk. more than 8,000 allegations of sexual violence and abuse have now been made by current and former school pupils on the website "everyone�*s invited". and, the giant ship that clogged a global trading artery is finally on its way again through the suez canal. good evening and welcome to bbc news. in what's being regarded as a pivotal moment in race relations in america, the trial of the white former police officer accused of killing a black man, george floyd has begun. derek chauvin pinned george floyd to the ground in minneapolis last year by kneeling on his neck for more than nine minutes. his death sparked protests around the world. joining me now from minneapolis is our washington correspondent, gary 0'donoghue — what have we heard so far? big crowd outside, people took their need,it big crowd outside, people took their need, it is opened and now the first witness is now giving evidence? that is riuht. witness is now giving evidence? that is right- really _ witness is now giving evidence? that is right- really a _ witness is now giving evidence? twat is right. really a hugely anticipated event this trial. really one of the trials of recent decades and after three weeks ofjury selection, the prosecution and the defence gave their opening statements this morning and we started to hear from witnesses. the first witness, a dispatcher, a 911 dispatcher, an emergency dispatcher, he was questioned about her role and about taking that call on that day and witnessing what was unfolding at the corner of chicago avenue and 38 here in minneapolis. here is my colleague looking at the events of the first day of this trial. this marks the start of what will be an emotional and fraught few weeks for the family of george floyd. but the remainders have, of course, never gone away of the way he died. we need justice. nothing throughout this whole trial, there's one word that you will hear me and my family say a lot, justice. somebody needs to be held accountable. do you swear or affirm that... the outrage the case sparked became an examination of systemic racism in the us, but prosecution lawyers started by bringing back the focus to the man seen here on the right. this case is about mr derek chauvin and not about any of those men and women and is not about all policing at all. and this case is not about split—second decision making. in nine minutes and 29 seconds, there are 479 seconds, not a split—second among them. it is rare for police officers in the us to be prosecuted for murder, and convictions are almost unheard of. we have faith, but faith has shown not to be a good predictor in all cases in america. so what will be the former police officer's defence? i think the defence's main arguments are going to focus around _ whether or not chauvin actually caused his death. _ that is an argument that he would have died anyway? right, right. yeah, and i think, well... that, for a lot of people who saw the video, will sound ludicrous, frankly. well, the video isn't the whole story. - it's a piece of the story. and that is what the jury will have to decide. - these protests outside the courthouse are a reminder of the strength of feeling there was last summer, notjust here, but all over the world. but what this case, one of the most important in recent us history, will come down to, of course, is the opinion of 12 jurors and there, there are no guarantees. aleem maqbool, bbc news, in minneapolis. gary, we're going to go to hear the evidence live in a moment, butjust a few question still outstanding. i mean, do we know if chauvin himself is going to be taking the stand? we don't is going to be taking the stand? - don't know that. we don't know at this stage what the defence have decided to do on that particular school. i imagine they won't necessarily have made up their mind. they want to see how things go, potentially. just like on that particular score. that would be a huge moment in this trial if he did decide to do that. it is a very high—stakes gamble, often, for the defence to do that and put them in client on the stand. bear in mind it is up to the prosecution to prove beyond reasonable doubt that derek chauvin is guilty, he is innocent until that takes place, so, in a sense, the prosecution have done theirjob there will be no reason for the defence to call their own clients so that is one thing we don't know. we also don't know, ten, the extent to which both sides will really talk about the issue of race in this case, to what extent they will highlight the issue of race because, of course, the country and the rest of the world sees this trial as being about race and race in america where as in the narrow croakfor in america where as in the narrow croak for confines of the legal process here this is a murder trial. —— well as in the narrow confines of the legal process this is a murder trial. we are now going live to wear the lead defence counsel is speaking now. let's go over to hennepin county in minneapolis to the courthouse where the trial of derek chauvin is taking place, and let's listen in. and itjust depends on the circumstances and situation, right? collect. —— correct. circumstances and situation, right? collect. -- correct.— collect. -- correct. now, you indicated _ collect. -- correct. now, you indicated that _ collect. -- correct. now, you indicated that there - collect. -- correct. now, you indicated that there were - collect. -- correct. now, you l indicated that there were these collect. -- correct. now, you - indicated that there were these tvs. there are more cameras within the city of minneapolis than six or nine tvs worth, right? abbey televisions, like, add a split screen where you conceive five or six cameras at one time or is it one big tv with one the camera? it time or is it one big tv with one the camera?— time or is it one big tv with one the camera? , ,, ,. , ., the camera? it is split screens and then ou the camera? it is split screens and then you can _ the camera? it is split screens and then you can go — the camera? it is split screens and then you can go into _ the camera? it is split screens and then you can go into different - then you can go into different camera — then you can go into different camera views. just looking back through my notes. when you watch the video here in court, you said that it was similar to the video that you had watched previously, right?— to the video that you had watched previously, right? yes. would you auree previously, right? yes. would you agree with — previously, right? yes. would you agree with me _ previously, right? yes. would you agree with me that the video we just watched in court seem to be moving very slowly in terms of, kind of, choppy. very slowly in terms of, kind of, cho . _ very slowly in terms of, kind of, chewy- pace- _ very slowly in terms of, kind of, chewy- pace-— very slowly in terms of, kind of, choppy.- pace.- so, l very slowly in terms of, kind of, | choppy.- pace.- so, an choppy. pace? pace. yes. so, an incident that _ choppy. pace? pace. yes. so, an incident that you _ choppy. pace? pace. yes. so, an incident that you watch, - choppy. pace? pace. yes. so, an incident that you watch, he - choppy. pace? pace. yes. so, an. incident that you watch, he watched incident that you watch, he watched in real time subjective a few seconds of delay from the signal ticket coming through, so i'm going to see if it makes a difference if we look at it on my computer. —— an incident that you watched in real time subject to a few seconds of delay from the signal coming through. this is exhibit 11. yep, that should be plugged in. can we put it up? there we go. it is day one, your honour. all right. so, now, when you watch the same video it seems to be moving a little faster time? correct. �* . . moving a little faster time? correct. �* , , correct. because these cameras actually transmit _ correct. because these cameras actually transmit real-time - actually transmit real—time occurrences? actually transmit real-time occurrences?— actually transmit real-time occurrences?- and | actually transmit real-time . occurrences?- and you actually transmit real-time - occurrences?- and you said occurrences? correct. and you said that ou occurrences? correct. and you said that you first. _ occurrences? correct. and you said that you first, kind _ occurrences? correct. and you said that you first, kind of, _ occurrences? correct. and you said that you first, kind of, took - occurrences? correct. and you said that you first, kind of, took notice | that you first, kind of, took notice based on your estimate at 817 so i'm going to just based on your estimate at 817 so i'm going tojust skip based on your estimate at 817 so i'm going to just skip around. this based on your estimate at 817 so i'm going tojust skip around. this is eight .17 and 38 seconds. so, this is 8:17 and about 30 seconds and this is when you first took notice of the cameras at the kohl centre? correct. . .., of the cameras at the kohl centre? correct. . .. . ., correct. -- at the call centre. now, in terms of— correct. -- at the call centre. now, in terms of the _ correct. -- at the call centre. now, in terms of the pacing _ correct. -- at the call centre. now, in terms of the pacing of _ correct. -- at the call centre. now, in terms of the pacing of this, - correct. -- at the call centre. now, in terms of the pacing of this, is - in terms of the pacing of this, is this more consistent with the real—time? this more consistent with the real-time?— this more consistent with the real-time?- one - this more consistent with the real-time?- one of i this more consistent with the i real-time?- one of the real-time? correct. one of the thins real-time? correct. one of the things you _ real-time? correct. one of the things you ultimately - real-time? correct. one of the things you ultimately told - real-time? correct. one of the | things you ultimately told agent pietersen was how you noticed how the squad car was rocking back and forth giving the struggle.— forth giving the struggle. correct. if ou forth giving the struggle. correct. if you could _ forth giving the struggle. correct. if you could just _ forth giving the struggle. correct. if you could just watch _ forth giving the struggle. correct. if you could just watch this - forth giving the struggle. correct. if you could just watch this and i if you could just watch this and tell me when you start to see that happening. tell me when you start to see that ha eninu. ~ , tell me when you start to see that happening-— happening. well, it is currently shakinu . happening. well, it is currently shaking- and — happening. well, it is currently shaking. and now _ happening. well, it is currently shaking. and now currently - happening. well, it is currently - shaking. and now currently shaking. and, _ shaking. and now currently shaking. and. by— shaking. and now currently shaking. and, by rocking back and forth, the car is actually going forward a little, backwards, and it is happening over and over and over again? happening over and over and over auain? ., . happening over and over and over again?- and _ happening over and over and over again?- and it _ happening over and over and over again?- and it is - happening over and over and over. again?- and it is happening again? correct. and it is happening re again? correct. and it is happening pretty much _ again? correct. and it is happening pretty much consistently _ again? correct. and it is happening pretty much consistently giving - again? correct. and it is happening pretty much consistently giving thej pretty much consistently giving the course of the interaction of the officers, right?— course of the interaction of the officers, right?- and i course of the interaction of the l officers, right?- and that officers, right? correct. and that back door is _ officers, right? correct. and that back door is opening _ officers, right? correct. and that back door is opening and - officers, right? correct. and that back door is opening and closing | officers, right? correct. and that i back door is opening and closing on the officers, right?— back door is opening and closing on the officers, right?- the - the officers, right? correct. the otherthings _ the officers, right? correct. the other things you _ the officers, right? correct. the other things you notice - the officers, right? correct. the other things you notice we - the officers, right? correct. the other things you notice we look| the officers, right? correct. the l other things you notice we look at this intersection, this is a pretty busy intersection, right? correct. lots of cars _ busy intersection, right? correct. lots of cars coming _ busy intersection, right? correct. lots of cars coming by, _ busy intersection, right? correct. lots of cars coming by, people i lots of cars coming by, people walking about, this was may 25, pretty nice spring day in the middle of not long after being cooped up inside your?— of not long after being cooped up inside your?- -- - of not long after being cooped up inside your?- -- cooped i of not long after being cooped up i inside your?- -- cooped up inside your? correct. -- cooped up inside your? correct. -- cooped up inside here- _ inside your? correct. -- cooped up inside here. so, _ inside your? correct. -- cooped up inside here. so, now, _ inside your? correct. -- cooped up inside here. so, now, ultimately, i inside here. so, now, ultimately, you observed and you saw these officers using false, right? or what you believe to be false.— officers using false, right? or what you believe to be false. when taking him out of the _ you believe to be false. when taking him out of the squad? _ you believe to be false. when taking him out of the squad? right, - you believe to be false. when taking him out of the squad? right, or- him out of the squad? right, or -auttin him out of the squad? right, or putting him _ him out of the squad? right, or putting him in _ him out of the squad? right, or putting him in the _ him out of the squad? right, or putting him in the squad? - him out of the squad? right, or putting him in the squad? yes. | him out of the squad? right, or- putting him in the squad? yes. and what ou putting him in the squad? yes. and what you observed was a struggle between officers and the person they were arresting, right?— between officers and the person they were arresting, right?- and l were arresting, right? correct. and that the struggle _ were arresting, right? correct. and that the struggle ultimately - that the struggle ultimately resulted in that squad shaking back—and—forth? resulted in that squad shaking back-and-forth?_ resulted in that squad shaking back-and-forth?- and j resulted in that squad shaking - back-and-forth?- and when back-and-forth? correct. and when ou, back-and-forth? correct. and when you. ultimately. _ back-and-forth? correct. and when you, ultimately, called _ back-and-forth? correct. and when you, ultimately, called the - back-and-forth? correct. and when | you, ultimately, called the sergeant you, ultimately, called the sergeant you said, i don't know if this is the use of force or not? right? connect. �* ,, ., ., , ., connect. and the sergeant told you that it could — connect. and the sergeant told you that it could be _ connect. and the sergeant told you that it could be just _ connect. and the sergeant told you that it could be just a _ connect. and the sergeant told you that it could be just a take-down? i that it could be just a take—down? collect. that it could be 'ust a take-down? collect. ., ,, , that it could be 'ust a take-down? collect. . ,, , ., ., collect. undertakes and would reauire collect. undertakes and would require this — collect. undertakes and would require this supervisor? - collect. undertakes and would l require this supervisor? correct. ultimately. _ require this supervisor? correct. ultimately. you _ require this supervisor? correct. ultimately, you know— require this supervisor? correct. ultimately, you know the - require this supervisor? correct. i ultimately, you know the sergeant responded to the scene and that is confirmed in the computer dispatch the incident detailing?— —— correct. -- correct. your honour, i have no further questions _ -- correct. your honour, i have no further questions at _ -- correct. your honour, i have no further questions at this _ -- correct. your honour, i have no further questions at this time. - further questions at this time. thank you. that's late. just if you follow—up questions. i'm going to put 1:51 back on the screen view because i think in the questioning council asked you about... i think was the term he used and ijust want to clarify that two parts. and i want to just clarify those times as well, so if we go down to... the time of 20:31:12 and we could just expand that outs we can all see it a little better please, i think the council asked you about this met and being the metcom call. call. having looked at this, what time is your metcom call? ., ., ., ., call? so, the information that i added was _ call? so, the information that i added was at _ call? so, the information that i added was at 20:33 _ call? so, the information that i added was at 20:33 for - call? so, the information that i added was at 20:33 for the - call? so, the information that i | added was at 20:33 for the met call? so, the information that i - added was at 20:33 for the met come, the results _ added was at 20:33 for the met come, the results that we use radio to radio— the results that we use radio to radio and — the results that we use radio to radio and can be able to be quick and forth— radio and can be able to be quick and forth so, and 20:33:02, what is the purpose — and forth so, and 20:33:02, what is the purpose of that entry they? what either flexing? _ the purpose of that entry they? what either flexing? i _ the purpose of that entry they? what either flexing? i am _ the purpose of that entry they? what either flexing? i am asking _ either flexing? i am asking basically — either flexing? i am asking basically what _ either flexing? i am asking basically what is _ either flexing? i am asking basically what is the - either flexing? i am asking| basically what is the reason either flexing? i am asking - basically what is the reason that fire was— basically what is the reason that fire was added and what you need firetail— fire was added and what you need firefall because there were no additional comments on saying why they were _ additional comments on saying why they were needing healthy? and additional comments on saying why they were needing healthy?- they were needing healthy? and so what ou they were needing healthy? and so what you had _ they were needing healthy? and so what you had typed _ they were needing healthy? and so what you had typed in _ they were needing healthy? and so what you had typed in the - they were needing healthy? and so what you had typed in the fire - they were needing healthy? and so what you had typed in the fire and i what you had typed in the fire and you sent out is to tell what? the information _ you sent out is to tell what? the information that _ you sent out is to tell what? the information that i _ you sent out is to tell what? the information that i got the metcom was that — information that i got the metcom was that... wanted the fire department for patient condition at the requested location of pack and 36. ., , ., , ., 36. so, that is the answer you got, that ems wanted _ 36. so, that is the answer you got, that ems wanted them _ 36. so, that is the answer you got, that ems wanted them to - 36. so, that is the answer you got, that ems wanted them to go - 36. so, that is the answer you got, | that ems wanted them to go there? correct. �* ,., that ems wanted them to go there? correct. . ,., ., , that ems wanted them to go there? correct. . ., , ., ., ., correct. and so that is information ou correct. and so that is information you received _ correct. and so that is information you received before _ correct. and so that is information you received before that _ correct. and so that is information you received before that time - correct. and so that is information you received before that time but| you received before that time but you received before that time but you sent out at that time. correct. there is the _ you sent out at that time. correct. there is the time _ you sent out at that time. correct. there is the time of _ you sent out at that time. correct. there is the time of me _ you sent out at that time. correct. there is the time of me typing - you sent out at that time. correct. j there is the time of me typing and everything — there is the time of me typing and everything in there.— there is the time of me typing and everything in there. when you have referred to your _ everything in there. when you have referred to your work _ everything in there. when you have referred to your work duties - everything in there. when you have referred to your work duties that i referred to your work duties that day, you can take it down, thank you, as channel one, how we have two other channels. fin you, as channel one, how we have two other channels.— other channels. on a channel two an ta' of the other channels. on a channel two an taj of the north _ other channels. on a channel two an taj of the north side _ other channels. on a channel two an taj of the north side and _ other channels. on a channel two an taj of the north side and channel i taj of the north side and channel three _ taj of the north side and channel three who — taj of the north side and channel three who has downtown in the fifth precinct _ three who has downtown in the fifth precinct and we have a relief dispatcher he was there to help us when _ dispatcher he was there to help us when we _ dispatcher he was there to help us when we take a break so we need to .et when we take a break so we need to get it— when we take a break so we need to get it for— when we take a break so we need to get it for any— when we take a break so we need to get it for any given reason. so when we take a break so we need to get it for any given reason.— get it for any given reason. so when ou get it for any given reason. so when you dispatch — get it for any given reason. so when you dispatch channel _ get it for any given reason. so when you dispatch channel one, _ get it for any given reason. so when you dispatch channel one, is - get it for any given reason. so when you dispatch channel one, is that i you dispatch channel one, is that citywide orjust precinct wide? just citywide or 'ust precinct wide? just on those citywide orjust precinct wide? just on those two _ citywide orjust precinct wide? just on those two precincts i have my own dedicated _ on those two precincts i have my own dedicated channel.— dedicated channel. having been questioned _ dedicated channel. having been questioned by _ dedicated channel. having been questioned by the _ dedicated channel. having been questioned by the council- dedicated channel. having been questioned by the council about dedicated channel. having been i questioned by the council about your call, as you sit here today, have you changed your mind about the reasons why you call sergeant peter were needed? you were asked about the number of screens that you have needing to see what was going out on a skull from the city camera. —— on the skull from the city camera. that has been your work set up for about seven years?— has been your work set up for about seven years?- something i has been your work set up for about | seven years?- something you seven years? collect. something you do on a daily — seven years? collect. something you do on a daily basis _ seven years? collect. something you do on a daily basis and _ seven years? collect. something you do on a daily basis and is _ seven years? collect. something you do on a daily basis and is keep i do on a daily basis and is keep track of all these moving parts? correct. �* . track of all these moving parts? correct. . . ., ., , correct. and that the deal that is u . correct. and that the deal that is u- there, correct. and that the deal that is up there. when _ correct. and that the deal that is up there, when it _ correct. and that the deal that is up there, when it is _ correct. and that the deal that is up there, when it is not - correct. and that the deal that is up there, when it is not sending | correct. and that the deal that is i up there, when it is not sending out work messages, can possibly city cameras, correct?— work messages, can possibly city cameras, correct?- but. work messages, can possibly city l cameras, correct?- but you cameras, correct? correct. but you don't control— cameras, correct? correct. but you don't control that _ cameras, correct? correct. but you don't control that collect. - cameras, correct? correct. but you don't control that collect. do i cameras, correct? correct. but you don't control that collect. do you i don't control that collect. do you know what _ don't control that collect. do you know what office _ don't control that collect. do you know what office controls - don't control that collect. do you know what office controls are? l don't control that collect. do you know what office controls are? itj know what office controls are? it can change. people pull up, sometimes he put them in there just to see _ sometimes he put them in there just to see what — sometimes he put them in there just to see what the weather is, especially if we have inclement weather — especially if we have inclement weather and there were storms coming through— weather and there were storms coming through we _ weather and there were storms coming through we can see actually how severe _ through we can see actually how severe they are when people are calling _ severe they are when people are calling in— severe they are when people are calling in folsom. calling in this severe they are when people are calling in this sometimes they put them _ calling in this sometimes they put them up _ calling in this sometimes they put them up for incidents as if we can see anything and those cams can be taken _ see anything and those cams can be taken away— see anything and those cams can be taken away from us to the fact that the base _ taken away from us to the fact that the base which is the precincts desk has control— the base which is the precincts desk has control over them and can move them _ has control over them and can move them to— has control over them and can move them to wherever they need to whenever— them to wherever they need to whenever they need to. so them to wherever they need to whenever they need to. so what you are sa in: whenever they need to. so what you are saying is — whenever they need to. so what you are saying is that _ whenever they need to. so what you are saying is that those _ whenever they need to. so what you are saying is that those cameras, i are saying is that those cameras, where they are and when they are available to you, can be controlled by members of the police department? correct. �* , ., , by members of the police department? correct. �* , , ., , _ correct. and, in your six years by this date and _ correct. and, in your six years by this date and seven _ correct. and, in your six years by this date and seven years - correct. and, in your six years by this date and seven years now, i correct. and, in your six years by this date and seven years now, itj correct. and, in your six years by l this date and seven years now, it is rare, it is a rare incident for somebody to put that incident, to put an incident on the screen like that? ., . i put an incident on the screen like that?- i have _ put an incident on the screen like that?- i have nothing i that? correct. i have nothing further, that? correct. i have nothing further. your— that? correct. i have nothing further, your honour. - that? correct. i have nothing further, your honour. thank| that? correct. i have nothing i further, your honour. thank you. that? correct. i have nothing - further, your honour. thank you. you can step down- _ calling next witness. thank you, your honour. your honour, the state calls alicia oiler. do you swear or affirm on penalty of perjury— do you swear or affirm on penalty of perjury that — do you swear or affirm on penalty of perjury that the _ do you swear or affirm on penalty of perjury that the testimony _ do you swear or affirm on penalty of perjury that the testimony you're i perjury that the testimony you're about— perjury that the testimony you're about to — perjury that the testimony you're about to make _ perjury that the testimony you're about to make is _ perjury that the testimony you're about to make is the _ perjury that the testimony you're about to make is the truth - perjury that the testimony you're about to make is the truth and i about to make is the truth and nothing — about to make is the truth and nothing but _ about to make is the truth and nothing but the _ about to make is the truth and nothing but the truth. - about to make is the truth and nothing but the truth.- about to make is the truth and i nothing but the truth. yes. have a seat. just make _ nothing but the truth. yes. have a seat. just make sure _ nothing but the truth. have a seat. just make sure that nothing but the truth.“ have a seat. just make sure that we i nothing but the truth.“ have a seat. just make sure that we can. seat. just make sure that we can hear— seat. just make sure that we can hear you — seat. just make sure that we can hear you we _ seat. just make sure that we can hear you we are _ seat. just make sure that we can hear you we are going _ seat. just make sure that we can hear you we are going to - seat. just make sure that we can hear you we are going to have i seat. just make sure that we can. hear you we are going to have you take your — hear you we are going to have you take your mask— hear you we are going to have you take your mask of— hear you we are going to have you take your mask of an _ hear you we are going to have you take your mask of an eye - hear you we are going to have you take your mask of an eye on- hear you we are going to have you take your mask of an eye on themj hear you we are going to have you i take your mask of an eye on them to leave _ take your mask of an eye on them to leave mine _ take your mask of an eye on them to leave mine on — take your mask of an eye on them to leave mine on and _ take your mask of an eye on them to leave mine on and before _ take your mask of an eye on them to leave mine on and before you - take your mask of an eye on them to leave mine on and before you begini leave mine on and before you begin and so _ leave mine on and before you begin and so we _ leave mine on and before you begin and so we can— leave mine on and before you begin and so we can test _ leave mine on and before you begin and so we can test at _ leave mine on and before you begin and so we can test at the _ and so we can test at the microphone, _ and so we can test at the microphone, could - and so we can test at the microphone, could you i and so we can test at the i microphone, could you give us and so we can test at the _ microphone, could you give us your full name. — microphone, could you give us your full name, spanning _ microphone, could you give us your full name, spanning each— microphone, could you give us your full name, spanning each of- microphone, could you give us your full name, spanning each of your. full name, spanning each of your names — full name, spanning each of your names hig— full name, spanning each of your names. g ., full name, spanning each of your names. 3 ., . ~ �* names. my whole name? i think i'm auoin to names. my whole name? i think i'm going to have _ names. my whole name? i think i'm going to have you — names. my whole name? i think i'm going to have you pull _ names. my whole name? i think i'm going to have you pull up _ names. my whole name? i think i'm going to have you pull up a - names. my whole name? i think i'm going to have you pull up a little i going to have you pull up a little closer to my concern. the going to have you pull up a little closer to my concern.— going to have you pull up a little closer to my concern. the key and auoin to closer to my concern. the key and going to give _ closer to my concern. the key and going to give you _ closer to my concern. the key and going to give you is _ closer to my concern. the key and going to give you is that _ closer to my concern. the key and going to give you is that when i closer to my concern. the key and going to give you is that when you j going to give you is that when you speak you should build to hear voice over the speaker so justly and closing of the microphone to elderly that, right? so, first, iam closing of the microphone to elderly that, right? so, first, i am going to ask you a few questions we can get to know your little better. how old are you? 23. and a were you old are you? 2752. and a were you originally old are you? 25 and a were you originally from minnesota? old are you? 23. and a were you originally from minnesota? no, | old are you? 23. and a were you | originally from minnesota? no, i old are you? 23. and a were you i originally from minnesota? no, i am from arizona- _ originally from minnesota? no, i am from arizona. i'm _ originally from minnesota? no, i am from arizona. i'm sorry, _ originally from minnesota? no, i am from arizona. i'm sorry, i— originally from minnesota? no, i am from arizona. i'm sorry, i don't i from arizona. i'm sorry, i don't like this. you can even pretend you are yelling at me if you want to make your voice keep damage at the back of the womb. you said you go up in arizona, is that right? just pat what part of arizona? just arizona.— that right? just pat what part of arizona? just arizona. when did you make our arizona? just arizona. when did you make your way _ arizona? just arizona. when did you make your way over _ arizona? just arizona. when did you make your way over to _ arizona? just arizona. when did you make your way over to minnesota? | arizona? just arizona. when did you j make your way over to minnesota? i don't know. a while ago. we - make your way over to minnesota? i don't know. a while ago. we do i make your way over to minnesota? i don't know. a while ago. we do stillj don't know. a while ago. we do still in hiuh don't know. a while ago. we do still in high school? _ don't know. a while ago. we do still in high school? yes. _ don't know. a while ago. we do still in high school? yes. did _ don't know. a while ago. we do still in high school? yes. did you - don't know. a while ago. we do still in high school? yes. did you attend| in high school? yes. did you attend an school in high school? yes. did you attend any school is _ in high school? yes. did you attend any school is when you were minnesota? where did you go to school? 0k in red wing minnesota. where else did you go to school? saint paul. what is the last grade you completed in high school? 11. can you tell that you have cities and towns you have lived in since coming to minnesota? i and towns you have lived in since coming to minnesota?— coming to minnesota? i guess minneapolis. _ coming to minnesota? i guess minneapolis. minneapolis i coming to minnesota? i guess minneapolis. minneapolis and | coming to minnesota? i guess| minneapolis. minneapolis and i assume red — minneapolis. minneapolis and i assume red wing _ minneapolis. minneapolis and i assume red wing a _ minneapolis. minneapolis and i assume red wing a while. i minneapolis. minneapolis and i | assume red wing a while. saint minneapolis. minneapolis and i - assume red wing a while. saint pol. currently employed? _ assume red wing a while. saint pol. currently employed? can _ assume red wing a while. saint pol. currently employed? can you - assume red wing a while. saint pol. currently employed? can you tell. assume red wing a while. saint pol. | currently employed? can you tell the jury currently employed? can you tell the jury a little bit about the types of jobs used to? i jury a little bit about the types of jobs used to?— jobs used to? i used to work at a speedway- _ jobs used to? i used to work at a speedway. which _ jobs used to? i used to work at a speedway. which speedway? - jobs used to? i used to work at a speedway. which speedway? to | jobs used to? i used to work at a - speedway. which speedway? to recall the location? — speedway. which speedway? to recall the location? what _ speedway. which speedway? to recall the location? what did _ speedway. which speedway? to recall the location? what did you _ speedway. which speedway? to recall the location? what did you do - speedway. which speedway? to recall the location? what did you do there? | the location? what did you do there? 30 then chicago. _ the location? what did you do there? 30 then chicago. i — the location? what did you do there? 30 then chicago, i am _ the location? what did you do there? 30 then chicago, i am a _ the location? what did you do there? 30 then chicago, i am a shift - the location? what did you do there? 30 then chicago, i am a shift lead, i 30 then chicago, i am a shift lead, not like a regular employee or a manageable kind of in the middle. not a lot of us have had the experience of working as a shift lead at speedway so i would like you to just tell the jury a little bit about what your day—to—day job is like. i work as a cash register and do paperwork. if a customer has an issue ahead the issues. you also work as a _ issue ahead the issues. you also work as a cashier? _ issue ahead the issues. you also work as a cashier? do _ issue ahead the issues. you also work as a cashier? do you - issue ahead the issues. you also work as a cashier? do you have. issue ahead the issues. you also. work as a cashier? do you have to train other people or supervisor of the cashiers?— train other people or supervisor of the cashiers?_ how i train other people or supervisor of l the cashiers?_ how long the cashiers? sometimes. how long did ou the cashiers? sometimes. how long did you have — the cashiers? sometimes. how long did you have that _ the cashiers? sometimes. how long did you have that job? _ the cashiers? sometimes. how long did you have that job? about - the cashiers? sometimes. how long did you have that job? about a - the cashiers? sometimes. how long| did you have that job? about a year. did you have that 'ob? about a year. did ou did you have that 'ob? about a year. on you start — did you have that 'ob? about a year. on you start as — did you have that 'ob? about a year. did you start as a— did you have that job? about a year. did you start as a shift _ did you have that job? about a year. did you start as a shift lead - did you have that job? about a year. did you start as a shift lead or- did you have that job? about a year. did you start as a shift lead or did i did you start as a shift lead or did you have a different position? is started as a shift leadcan you tell me, tell thejury started as a shift leadcan you tell me, tell the jury a started as a shift leadcan you tell me, tell thejury a little bit about the types of hours you would work there can. was it a full—time job? yes, i worked a0 hours a week, well, i did. yes, i worked 40 hours a week, well, i did. ~ yes, i worked 40 hours a week, well, i did. t , ., i did. needed? when did you ticall i did. needed? when did you typically your— i did. needed? when did you typically your shift? - i did. needed? when did you typically your shift? between j i did. needed? when did you - typically your shift? between two or three to closing _ typically your shift? between two or three to closing at _ typically your shift? between two or three to closing at ten _ typically your shift? between two or three to closing at ten o'clock. - typically your shift? between two or three to closing at ten o'clock. tenl three to closing at ten o'clock. ten o'clock was — three to closing at ten o'clock. ten o'clock was closing. was a pretty busy so? it o'clock was closing. was a pretty bus so? , ., , o'clock was closing. was a pretty busy so?_ 0k- i i o'clock was closing. was a pretty - busy so?_ ok. i would busy so? it its moments. 0k. iwould like to see if— busy so? it its moments. 0k. iwould like to see if you _ busy so? it its moments. 0k. iwould like to see if you recognise _ busy so? it its moments. 0k. iwould like to see if you recognise the - like to see if you recognise the area. first i would like to show just the witness what has been marked for identification as exhibit one. studio:. we appear to just above the audio there from the copley minneapolis. if you're just audio there from the copley minneapolis. if you'rejustjoining minneapolis. if you're just joining us, minneapolis. if you'rejustjoining us, this is the trial of derek chauvin for the murder of george floyd. —— from the court room in minneapolis. we were listening first to the testimony ofjena scurry who was the 911 dispatcher who talks about the event she saw last year with her fellow dispatchers. about the event she saw last year with herfellow dispatchers. we talked about what just with herfellow dispatchers. we talked about whatjust occurred. we are now seeing alesha 0iler, 23, and she isjust saying are now seeing alesha 0iler, 23, and she is just saying what her role is about the day went george floyd was killed. d0 about the day went george floyd was killed. i. _, , ., ., killed. do you recognise what a sheddint killed. do you recognise what a shedding as — killed. do you recognise what a shedding as exhibit _ killed. do you recognise what a shedding as exhibit one? - killed. do you recognise what a shedding as exhibit one? yes. | killed. do you recognise what a i shedding as exhibit one? yes. do killed. do you recognise what a - shedding as exhibit one? yes. do you see the speedway were used to work? yes. do see the speedway were used to work? yes. , ., see the speedway were used to work? yes. it, ., see the speedway were used to work? yes. y., ., ., yes. do you have something that looks like this _ yes. do you have something that looks like this in _ yes. do you have something that looks like this in front _ yes. do you have something that looks like this in front of- yes. do you have something that looks like this in front of you? i yes. do you have something that looks like this in front of you? a| looks like this in front of you? a stylus? what i would like you to do is take this as if you involve a circle and the speedway where you used to work. thank you. the name of the store directly across the street, we are familiar with that? yes. ~ ., street, we are familiar with that? yes. . ., ., , ., street, we are familiar with that? yes. . . ., , ., ., street, we are familiar with that? yes. . ., ., , ., ., , ., yes. what was the name of the store? cook foods- — yes. what was the name of the store? cook foods- did _ yes. what was the name of the store? cook foods. did you _ yes. what was the name of the store? cook foods. did you ever— yes. what was the name of the store? cook foods. did you ever go _ yes. what was the name of the store? cook foods. did you ever go in - yes. what was the name of the store? cook foods. did you ever go in that - cook foods. did you ever go in that store, we familiar _ cook foods. did you ever go in that store, we familiar with _ cook foods. did you ever go in that store, we familiar with it? - cook foods. did you ever go in that store, we familiar with it? not - store, we familiar with it? not reall . store, we familiar with it? not really- just _ store, we familiar with it? not really. just the _ store, we familiar with it? not really. just the place - store, we familiar with it? not really. just the place across i store, we familiar with it? not l really. just the place across the street where _ really. just the place across the street where he _ really. just the place across the street where he works? - really. just the place across the street where he works? yeah. i really. just the place across the i street where he works? yeah. do really. just the place across the - street where he works? yeah. do you recotnise street where he works? yeah. do you recognise that — street where he works? yeah. do you recognise that building? _ street where he works? yeah. do you recognise that building? yeah, - street where he works? yeah. do you recognise that building? yeah, i- recognise that building? yeah, i didn't know _ recognise that building? yeah, i didn't know that _ recognise that building? yeah, i didn't know that was _ recognise that building? yeah, i didn't know that was what - recognise that building? yeah, i didn't know that was what it - recognise that building? yeah, i. didn't know that was what it was, though _ didn't know that was what it was, thou t h. ~ ., didn't know that was what it was, thouth. t . didn't know that was what it was, thouth. ~ ., ~ ., didn't know that was what it was, thouth. t . ,., ~ ., ., didn't know that was what it was, thouth. t . ~ ., ., i] though. what did you know it has? i never really — though. what did you know it has? i never really paid _ though. what did you know it has? i never really paid attention - though. what did you know it has? i never really paid attention to - though. what did you know it has? i never really paid attention to it. - never really paid attention to it. right _ never really paid attention to it. right do— never really paid attention to it. right. do you recall whether or not you were working on may 25, 2020. yet? ~ you were working on may 25, 2020. yet? . y ., you were working on may 25, 2020. yet? . ,, ., ~ you were working on may 25, 2020. yet? . i. ., ~ at yet? where were you working? at speedway- — yet? where were you working? at speedway- diva — yet? where were you working? at speedway. diva call— yet? where were you working? at speedway. diva call when - yet? where were you working? at speedway. diva call when you - yet? where were you working? at l speedway. diva call when you began our shift? speedway. diva call when you began your shift? -- _ speedway. diva call when you began your shift? -- de — speedway. diva call when you began your shift? -- de you _ speedway. diva call when you began your shift? -- de you the _ speedway. diva call when you began your shift? -- de you the coal- speedway. diva call when you began your shift? -- de you the coal when| your shift? —— de you the coal when your shift? —— de you the coal when you began your shift? your shift? -- de you the coal when you began your shift?— you began your shift? about three o'clock. you began your shift? about three o'clock- do _ you began your shift? about three o'clock- do you — you began your shift? about three o'clock. do you recall— you began your shift? about three o'clock. do you recall specifically i o'clock. do you recall specifically what ou o'clock. do you recall specifically what you were — o'clock. do you recall specifically what you were doing _ o'clock. do you recall specifically what you were doing at - o'clock. do you recall specifically what you were doing at the - o'clock. do you recall specifically - what you were doing at the speedway that they? what you were doing at the speedway that the ? �* , what you were doing at the speedway thatthe?�* ,. , what you were doing at the speedway that they?— as that they? bringing up customers. as the cash register? _ that they? bringing up customers. as the cash register? yet. _ that they? bringing up customers. as the cash register? yet. could - that they? bringing up customers. as the cash register? yet. could you - the cash register? yet. could you 'ust tut a the cash register? yet. could you just put a little — the cash register? yet. could you just put a little x around the area of the store using your stylus pointer where the cash register would be. studio:. we are going to leave it there. and if you want to keep watching the trial of derek chauvin — who's on trial for the murder of george floyd — you can do that on the bbc news website. go to bbc.co.uk/news and click on the live page. now it's time for a look at the weather with stav danaos. it has been beautiful, certainly around london. hi there. it's turning much colder by the end of this week. for all areas, the return to overnight frosts, and for the easter weekend we could even see some wintry showers in places. to start this week, though, it's going to be very warm — unseasonably warm — across parts of england and wales. lots of sunshine but very wet for the north—west of scotland, thanks to this weather front, which will be hanging around through tonight and also into tuesday. quite a bit of cloud for scotland and nothern ireland. just a little bit of cloud here and there for northern england, but further south clear skies, slightly lighter winds, so it's going to be chilly in a few spots, a touch of frost, maybe some mist too, less cold further north because of the cloud, the wind and the rain. so, again, for tuesday, similar story. it's a chilly start across england and wales with lots of sunshine, and then it turns very warm into the afternoon, whereas further north there will be more cloud around, and still very wet for the north—west corner of scotland. given some sunshine, we could see the high teens for eastern scotland, but 22 or 23 could be the high across central, southern and eastern england. it does start to turn colder, though, as we reach the end of the week, with a return to overnight frosts. hello, this is bbc news with tim willcox. the headlines... the whole world is watching. the whole world is watching. supporters take the knee outside court in minneapolis as the trial begins of the police officer accused of killing george floyd. we'll be live at the trial. outdoor pools reopen and the rule of six is back as lockdown restrictions in england begin to ease, but the prime minister urges us to remain cautious. it's only because of months of sacrifice — it's only because of months of sacrifice and effort that we can take _ sacrifice and effort that we can take this — sacrifice and effort that we can take this small step towards freedom today and _ take this small step towards freedom today and we must proceed with caution — more than 8,000 allegations of sexual violence and abuse have now been made by current and former school pupils on the website 'everyone's invited' and the giant ship that clogged a global trading artery is finally on its way again through the suez canal. the prime minister has urged caution as coronavirus restrictions start to be rolled back in england. borisjohnson has warned that as a third wave of covid infections builds in europe, it is inevitable that we will see more cases and deaths here in the uk. but the easing of lockdown in england starts today, with groups of six people or two households of whatever size able to meet from in parks or private gardens. outdoor sports facilities like tennis courts can open along with outdoor team sports, but people have to stay local as much as possible and holidays abroad are still banned. in two weeks' time on april the 12th, restrictions ease further with planned opening up of non—essential shops and gyms. outdoor settings, too, like beer gardens and theme parks along with indoor gyms and indoor pools. the message throughout remains clear — still wear masks and maintain social distancing. for the other nations, some restrictions were eased in wales on saturday. in northern ireland, things begin to ease from thursday, and from friday in scotland. here's our health editor, hugh pym. new freedoms, and all on a sunny day — no wonder these swimmers at a lido in norfolk were enjoying themselves, with outdoor pools in england allowed to reopen. very nice. it's lovely, it's amazing, it's a great feeling. it's pretty great. it's cold! yeah. until today, weddings were only permitted in exceptional circumstances, but now, ceremonies with up to six people are allowed. and in coventry, dwayne and nyasha tied the knot, after postponing in the winter. even, like, yesterday, it was like, they could just ring, couldn't they, and go, actually... yeah, not today. ..not today. so, it's surreal, it's wonderful. today, the prime minister and his key advisers appeared at the new downing street media briefing room. isn't there a danger of mixed messaging when you talk both about a road map to freedom and getting back towards normal life but, also, the need to be cautious because of cases rising in some parts of europe? we're pleased to be able to have some measure of relaxation today. it is important, it is valuable. i know it will be prized by people. but also very important to stress that we are continuing to be cautious. the main thing we're concerned about is the risk of importing into the uk variants which could have a reduced effectiveness on the vaccines we're currently using. now, in the long term, there would be ways around that, but in the short term, that is the principal thing that is driving concerns about border issues at this stage. fresh air dilutes the virus _ particles and can blow them away... a government advert reminds people that meeting outdoors is less risky than in their homes. hands, face, space and fresh air. and labour urged ministers not to drop their guard. it's good we've got to this stage of lifting some of the restrictions. we've got to be cautious about it. and i think the single biggest risk is, of course, what we're seeing happening in other countries, where the numbers are still going up. the number of daily reported cases was coming down, but it's been fairly stable for the last few weeks, between 5,000 and 6,000 on the seven—day rolling average. but the number of daily hospital admissions with covid is falling steadily — it's down to around a few hundred a day. health officials say fewer people are getting seriously ill with covid, and the vaccine is having an impact. from ice hockey and rock concerts to communityjabs, the sse arena in belfast has opened as a mass vaccination centre. ministers said it was a significant milestone. in northern ireland, from thursday, outdoor sports will resume and six people can meet in private gardens. some beaches in wales were busy over the weekend, with travel restrictions lifted. outdoor sports for under—18s and meetings of up to six people outside are permitted. scotland's stay—at—home message changes to stay local on friday — each nation moving at its own pace out of lockdown. hugh pym, bbc news. let's take a look at the latest government figures. there were a,65a new coronavirus infections recorded in the latest 2a—hour period. on average, 5,257 new cases were reported per day in the last week. 23 deaths were reported in the latest 2a—hour period — that's people who died within 28 days of a positive covid—i9 test and is usually lower on a monday. on average in the past week, 63 deaths were announced every day. the total number is now 126,615. as for vaccinations, 293,5a2 people have had their first dose of a covid vaccine in the latest 2a—hour period, bringing the total to 30,aaa,829. 3,67a,266 people have had both doses of the vaccine. those of the latest figures. quite a lot of you have been asking specific questions, so it's now time for your questions answered. you've been sending us your questions on coronavirus and lockdown rules across the uk. here to try and answer some of them is emeritus professor at the chinese university of hong kong, professor sian griffiths and dr bharat pankhania from the university of exeter medical school. welcome to you both. good to have you back on. shall we start with this one? this is from patricia. she is from suffolk. professor griffiths," we're asked to stay local, how do you define that? is it a number of miles we are not to exceed? is that staying within postcodes?"— exceed? is that staying within postcodes?" exceed? is that staying within tostcodes?" ., . , ., , postcodes?" the guidance is a bit vatue postcodes?" the guidance is a bit vague because — postcodes?" the guidance is a bit vague because local _ postcodes?" the guidance is a bit vague because local really - postcodes?" the guidance is a bit vague because local really meansj vague because local really means don't take unnecessary journeys. vague because local really means don't take unnecessaryjourneys. so, i can't give you any distance or any definition. i think we have to use our common sense. if you want to go and meet a friend at a distance, i think that's fair. but as long as you're only six of you in a garden. it's really about thinking about the risk of virus and judging your behaviour accordingly. it is risk of virus and judging your behaviour accordingly.- risk of virus and judging your behaviour accordingly. it is a bit confusing- _ behaviour accordingly. it is a bit confusing. for _ behaviour accordingly. it is a bit confusing. for some _ behaviour accordingly. it is a bit confusing. for some people - behaviour accordingly. it is a bit confusing. for some people in l behaviour accordingly. it is a bit i confusing. for some people in the rural countryside, local might be 20 miles away, but perhaps not if you're in a city centre.- miles away, but perhaps not if you're in a city centre. really, the 'udtment you're in a city centre. really, the judgment is _ you're in a city centre. really, the judgment is you — you're in a city centre. really, the judgment is you stay _ you're in a city centre. really, the judgment is you stay close - you're in a city centre. really, the judgment is you stay close to - you're in a city centre. really, the j judgment is you stay close to your neighbourhood and don't go to other towns _ neighbourhood and don't go to other towns or— neighbourhood and don't go to other towns or other bars. i personally think— towns or other bars. i personally think a _ towns or other bars. i personally think a couple of miles would be a good _ think a couple of miles would be a good indicator of your locality. this _ good indicator of your locality. this is — good indicator of your locality. this is from richard williamson —— richard william some. are babies or children under the age of five included? , children under the age of five included?— children under the age of five included? , , ., , . ., included? this is a difficult one. the rules to _ included? this is a difficult one. the rules to say _ included? this is a difficult one. the rules to say that _ included? this is a difficult one. the rules to say that babies - included? this is a difficult one. the rules to say that babies are| the rules to say that babies are included in six, but two households can meet and the households have no boundaries in the sides. —— size. i thought quite hard about this because it does seem a bit restrictive. in scotland for example, children don't count within the six, but within england at the moment, the rules are that the six does include children and babies. [30 does include children and babies. do you agree with that? yes _ does include children and babies. do you agree with that? yes i _ does include children and babies. do you agree with that? yes i do, - does include children and babies. do you agree with that? yes i do, there| you agree with that? yes i do, there is some small _ you agree with that? yes i do, there is some small substrate _ you agree with that? yes i do, there is some small substrate as - you agree with that? yes i do, there is some small substrate as well - you agree with that? yes i do, there is some small substrate as well in l is some small substrate as well in the guidelines which does say that you can _ the guidelines which does say that you can exclude under five—year—olds, also on the one hand we feel— five—year—olds, also on the one hand we feel they— five—year—olds, also on the one hand we feel they should be included, but if you _ we feel they should be included, but if you read _ we feel they should be included, but if you read carefully and go down several _ if you read carefully and go down several lines there is an exclusion for under— several lines there is an exclusion for under five—year—old. several lines there is an exclusion for under five-year-old._ for under five-year-old. right. it is a still quite _ for under five-year-old. right. it is a still quite complicated. - for under five-year-old. right. it is a still quite complicated. let's| is a still quite complicated. let's look at this one from joe heath, professor griffiths. "i'm aware that some rules are changing, so here's my question, my son lives in bradford and i'm hoping to meet up with him and his family on good friday. i live alone so i believe that i can form a support bubble for one household. anotherfamily is hoping tojoin us, so my question is would that be allowed under the current coronavirus rules?" l find current coronavirus rules?" i find this a bit tricky _ current coronavirus rules?" i find this a bit tricky because - current coronavirus rules?" i find this a bit tricky because the - current coronavirus rules?" illf�*ui this a bit tricky because the idea of the bubble is support, and i don't think you can use the bubble for that day. it needs to be brought through, you have to decide if there are other bubbles within the family. so is not straightforward answered. the issue about meeting another family in the garden if you are not in a bubble is six to view, but it could be two households if you were included. i think it's really up to you do you decide about the nature of the bubble with your son. thea;t of the bubble with your son. they also haven't _ of the bubble with your son. they also haven't met _ of the bubble with your son. they also haven't met before - of the bubble with your son. they also haven't met before and perhaps use that as a support bubble before. your thoughts, use that as a support bubble before. yourthoughts, doctor use that as a support bubble before. your thoughts, doctor pankhani. use that as a support bubble before. yourthoughts, doctor pankhani. l yourthoughts, doctor pankhani. i personally think this is not a bubble _ personally think this is not a bubble. we need that very clear message — bubble. we need that very clear message that a gentleman from middlesborough cannot go to bradford and create a bubble, which then is extended — and create a bubble, which then is extended to another household and then the _ extended to another household and then the two so—called bubbles or households meet. i don't think so because _ households meet. i don't think so because a — households meet. i don't think so because a bubble's definition is some _ because a bubble's definition is some arrangement whereby the two are supporting _ some arrangement whereby the two are supporting each other and not interacting with anybody else. therefore to go from middlesborough to bradford and say this is my new bubble. _ to bradford and say this is my new bubble. it's— to bradford and say this is my new bubble, it's at bestjust to bradford and say this is my new bubble, it's at best just a temporary bubble so it doesn't fultil— temporary bubble so it doesn't fulfil the — temporary bubble so it doesn't fulfil the definition of a bubble. | fulfil the definition of a bubble. suppose fulfil the definition of a bubble. i suppose the problem is that some people will gain the rules, what they? you are both on to describe specifically what the rules are, although as we've seen, there are some great areas —— grey areas. this is from martina. "can i travel back to belfast from stansted? i have a flight booked from may the 7th and haven't seen my mother in 16 months. she has been hospital twice. i live alone and i'm anxious and homesick for my family." alone and i'm anxious and homesick for my family- '— for my family." martina, i'm sorry about your _ for my family." martina, i'm sorry about your homesickness. - for my family." martina, i'm sorry about your homesickness. the - for my family." martina, i'm sorry| about your homesickness. the real answer will depend on the rules in northern ireland, where at the current time, unless you've got a special reason to travel there, you shouldn't go there. if you didn't go there, you would need to spend ten daysin there, you would need to spend ten days in isolation, so i think you need to think very carefully about this. ., , ,, �* , need to think very carefully about this. ., , ,, �*, , this. can i interrupt? she's been in hos-ital this. can i interrupt? she's been in hospital twice. _ this. can i interrupt? she's been in hospital twice, the _ this. can i interrupt? she's been in hospitaltwice, the mother. - this. can i interrupt? she's been in hospitaltwice, the mother. couldl hospital twice, the mother. could that be a legitimate reason? this hospitaltwice, the mother. could that be a legitimate reason? this is where it gets _ that be a legitimate reason? this is where it gets really _ that be a legitimate reason? this is where it gets really tricky. - that be a legitimate reason? this is where it gets really tricky. the - where it gets really tricky. the question is did you go before when she'd been in hospital? may be the mother isn't very... it could be exceptional circumstances. you need to look at them more ireland website and see whether you can fit into the category of being able to visit your mother, because it's the northern irish rules that will count. you need to look and see where the quarantine would apply to you as well. so it's not quite as straightforward as getting on the plane and flying to belfast. it's slightly more difficult than that. i think travel is a really tricky one at the moment. we are waiting for the travel guidance from the team that are looking at it for the government on april the 5th. we'll be hearing about what travel is and isn't allowed for english people. it isn't allowed for english people. it is different in ireland and there are no dates given, so i can't say on a certain date you can look at the rules of. on a certain date you can look at the rules oh— on a certain date you can look at the rules of. i'm sorry, to actually fly outside — the rules of. i'm sorry, to actually fly outside the _ the rules of. i'm sorry, to actually fly outside the uk _ the rules of. i'm sorry, to actually fly outside the uk is _ the rules of. i'm sorry, to actually fly outside the uk is a _ the rules of. i'm sorry, to actually fly outside the uk is a £5,000 - the rules of. i'm sorry, to actually| fly outside the uk is a £5,000 fine from today. unless it's for additional travel, which does include your second home. crosstalk. i'll leave that they are. doctor pankhania, can we go to the next one? "during the lockdown, there has been a limit on the number of times we can leave our home. for one of shopping or exercise or health appointment, etc. today, do the unilateral allow us to leave our home more than once a day with my" yes, you may lose your house —— leave _ yes, you may lose your house —— leave your— yes, you may lose your house —— leave your house more than once. my more _ leave your house more than once. my more important message to everyone is please — more important message to everyone is please just because the the restrictions are being eased, that doesn't _ restrictions are being eased, that doesn't mean you just go out and all the doors _ doesn't mean you just go out and all the doors are opened and you drop your guard — the doors are opened and you drop your guard. you need to take care and pay— your guard. you need to take care and pay attention to your own health and pay attention to your own health and your— and pay attention to your own health and your own well— being and pay attention to your own health and your own well—being and measure the risk— and your own well—being and measure the risk that— and your own well—being and measure the risk that it may be posing before — the risk that it may be posing before you make the decisions to link up _ before you make the decisions to link up with other people. i know we want to— link up with other people. i know we want to link— link up with other people. i know we want to link up with other people, butjust— want to link up with other people, butjust be — want to link up with other people, butjust be careful. make your own assessments, even if the laws allow you to _ assessments, even if the laws allow you to do _ assessments, even if the laws allow you to do so — assessments, even if the laws allow you to do so-— you to do so. ok, the next question is from christine. _ you to do so. ok, the next question is from christine. it's _ you to do so. ok, the next question is from christine. it's about - is from christine. it's about meeting up outdoors under two households. i think we sort of cover that one, so let's get to another one, professor griffiths. this is from jim brown from west yorkshire. "when can we travel from england to scotland and rent a cottage for holiday?" latte scotland and rent a cottage for holida ?" ~ �* scotland and rent a cottage for holida ?" . �* ., scotland and rent a cottage for holida ?" t �* ., ., holiday?" we can't at the moment because the _ holiday?" we can't at the moment because the scottish _ holiday?" we can't at the moment because the scottish rules - holiday?" we can't at the moment because the scottish rules are - holiday?" we can't at the moment| because the scottish rules are that we can't go across the border. apparently, we are not allowed to stay away overnight. i think that in terms of the english in a situation, we should be able after april the 12th to go as a single—family to a rented accommodation. whether we can go to scotland or not will depend on what the scottish rules allow us to do. . . what the scottish rules allow us to do, ,, ., , ., what the scottish rules allow us to do. ,, ., , ., ., , what the scottish rules allow us to do. ,, ., , ., ., ., do. shall be go to this one from... when can — do. shall be go to this one from... when can we _ do. shall be go to this one from... when can we travel— do. shall be go to this one from... when can we travel abroad? - do. shall be go to this one from... when can we travel abroad? my i do. shall be go to this one from... i when can we travel abroad? my advice would be be — when can we travel abroad? my advice would be be careful— when can we travel abroad? my advice would be be careful and _ when can we travel abroad? my advice would be be careful and think i when can we travel abroad? my advice would be be careful and think about i would be be careful and think about where _ would be be careful and think about where you're going, which country you wish— where you're going, which country you wish to — where you're going, which country you wish to go to because the situation _ you wish to go to because the situation over there may be a lot worse _ situation over there may be a lot worse than — situation over there may be a lot worse than in the uk. uk population is getting _ worse than in the uk. uk population is getting immunised, the other place _ is getting immunised, the other place may not be in immunise. they may have _ place may not be in immunise. they may have healing health care services _ may have healing health care services. try and stay at home. for the whole services. try and stay at home. the whole year. services. try and stay at home. fr?" the whole year. from jill rosenberg, "does this mean that six people from six individual separate households can meet outside in my garden? was quote can meet outside in my garden? was tuote , , ., , can meet outside in my garden? was uote , , ., , �* , can meet outside in my garden? was tuote , .,, can meet outside in my garden? was tuote , ., , ., quote yes, it does. it's a rule that allows people _ quote yes, it does. it's a rule that allows people to _ quote yes, it does. it's a rule that allows people to meet _ quote yes, it does. it's a rule that allows people to meet together, l quote yes, it does. it's a rule that| allows people to meet together, it allows people to meet together, it allows many of us to... you don't have to be a household, you can be individual people meeting together individual people meeting together in the garden. sin. individual people meeting together in the garden-— in the garden. six inside football clubs, in the garden. six inside football clubs. you _ in the garden. six inside football clubs. you can — in the garden. six inside football clubs, you can all— in the garden. six inside football clubs, you can all meet i in the garden. six inside football clubs, you can all meet and i in the garden. six inside football| clubs, you can all meet and have drinks as long as they socially distance? $5 drinks as long as they socially distance? �* , ., drinks as long as they socially distance? ~ , ., ., , drinks as long as they socially distance? ~ , ., , drinks as long as they socially distance?— distance? as long as they are socially distance, _ distance? as long as they are socially distance, yes. i distance? as long as they are socially distance, yes. as i distance? as long as they are | socially distance, yes. as long distance? as long as they are i socially distance, yes. as long as it doesn't rain? _ socially distance, yes. as long as it doesn't rain? then _ socially distance, yes. as long as it doesn't rain? then they i socially distance, yes. as long as it doesn't rain? then they have l socially distance, yes. as long as| it doesn't rain? then they have to go home. it doesn't rain? then they have to t home. ~ , ., ., go home. absolutely, i have an umbrella with _ go home. absolutely, i have an umbrella with you. _ go home. absolutely, i have an umbrella with you. what i go home. absolutely, i have an umbrella with you. what about| go home. absolutely, i have an i umbrella with you. what about this one, umbrella with you. what about this one. doctor — umbrella with you. what about this one, doctor pankhania, _ umbrella with you. what about this one, doctor pankhania, i— umbrella with you. what about this one, doctor pankhania, i am i i one, doctor pankhania, iam i allowed to run outdoor dance classes? if so, how many people? this is from anthony. 50. classes? if so, how many people? this is from anthony.— classes? if so, how many people? this is from anthony. so, the rules is a that you _ this is from anthony. so, the rules is a that you need _ this is from anthony. so, the rules is a that you need to _ this is from anthony. so, the rules is a that you need to have i this is from anthony. so, the rules is a that you need to have made i this is from anthony. so, the rules i is a that you need to have made that gathering _ is a that you need to have made that gathering covid secure, so to speak. social— gathering covid secure, so to speak. social distancing, taking precautionary measures. i think a group _ precautionary measures. i think a group of— precautionary measures. i think a group of up — precautionary measures. i think a group of up to 15 people can get together— group of up to 15 people can get together and do that activity that you just — together and do that activity that you just described.— you just described. professor griffiths, that _ you just described. professor griffiths, that applies i you just described. professor griffiths, that applies to i you just described. professor griffiths, that applies to all l griffiths, that applies to all sporting activities? the griffiths, that applies to all sporting activities? griffiths, that applies to all s-tortin activities? ., , ., sporting activities? the group of... the t-rou sporting activities? the group of... the group of _ sporting activities? the group of... the group of 15 _ sporting activities? the group of... the group of 15 applies _ sporting activities? the group of... the group of 15 applies to i sporting activities? the group of... the group of 15 applies to an i the group of 15 applies to an organised group, so it's as an organised group, so it's as an organised group, so it's as an organised group of 15 can meet together. in that instance, children don't count, so there's a sense of the under five don't count. if you're in our class, you can meet. if you're a sports group, you can meet some point i'm getting confused. underfive don't meet some point i'm getting confused. under five don't count for groups, but they do for household? that's what i raised earlier on. they do for six, not for households. you just have two households any size, and i think this will be a confusing for people. we just need to get some clarification from php or the government on this one. this is onl the or the government on this one. this is only the first _ or the government on this one. this is only the first stage of the lockdown. is only the first stage of the lockdown-— is only the first stage of the lockdown. �* ., , ,, ., , ., lockdown. but i did ask php about this. i did check. _ lockdown. but i did ask php about this. idid check. i— lockdown. but i did ask php about this. i did check. i know— lockdown. but i did ask php about this. i did check. i know you i this. i did check. i know you checked! — this. i did check. i know you checked! that's _ this. i did check. i know you checked! that's why i this. i did check. i know you checked! that's why we - this. i did check. i know you | checked! that's why we have this. i did check. i know you - checked! that's why we have you both on! crosstalk. really good to have you back again. thank you very much indeed for taking us through your questions answered. you're watching bbc news. more than 8,000 allegations of sexual violence and abuse have now been made by current and former school pupils on the website 'everyone�*s invited'. the head of child protection for the national police chief's council has urged parents to take their son to the police if they are responsible for a sexual assault. our special correspondent lucy manning has been talking to young people about their experiences. their voices are now being heard. the schools, police and politicians are finally listening. with pupils at this school and others demanding change, claims of harassment and abuse are now being taken seriously. if parents are aware that their son or their daughter has been a victim of abuse, then please come forward. if as a parent, you are aware that your son has been responsible for a sexual assault, then i think you should again be taking your son to the police and saying, "look, i have now become aware that this is what my son has done." the website everyone�*s invited has now received 8000 anonymous posts. it started as a trickle of allegations, now a roar of women demanding it has to stop. this group, part of a charity called tender, working with pupils to educate them about relationships. at school, there was a lot of experiences with people dealing with sexual harassment and physical abuse and sexual abuse, and unfortunately these kind of conversations weren't happening in schools. there were loads of incidences of inappropriate behaviour, - lots of sexually aggressive behaviour that i think- we weren't educated on, - we didn't understand, but we felt uncomfortable with. what do you think boys need to do to change the situation? a lot of these people or young boys don't understand that they actually are doing sexual harassment. they might think it is jokes and banter, all these kind of words. it is so much easier putting out a tweet to say this doesn't apply to me, hashtag not all men, then it is to engage with meaningful conversation that is happening. this woman has a teenage son at one of these because that has been named. this woman has a teenage son at one of these schools that has been named. the buck stops with me as a parent, |and what our kids will do eventually| i will be the values that they take . away from us, from our family, from away from us, from their family, from their parents, where they grow up, where they learn from exhibitedl behaviours and a lot . of stuff that isn't said. so do you think the parents need to take more responsibility than the schools? we as parents cannot just delegate and outsource our kids' values, - and the way they behave and code of conduct. - labour is calling for an enquiry. a police helpline is being set up. it's clear what some are calling a rate culture in schools will no a rape culture in schools will no longer be tolerated. lucy manning, bbc news. we're just getting news from new york. regarding the trial coming up injuly of ghislaine maxwell, the daughter of robert maxwell. us prosecutors have just expanded their criminal case against ghislaine maxwell with a new indictment, adding another charge now of sex trafficking conspiracy and sex trafficking conspiracy and sex trafficking of a minor. ghislaine maxwell, former girlfriend of the late financerjeffrey epstein, now faces eight counts and accuses her of a navy owing his sexual misconduct as perjulie —— he is enabling. —— perjury. the giant ship that has blocked the suez canal for nearly a week has been finally freed. 400 metres long and weighed down with 18,000 containers, the ever given was wedged across one of the world's busiest shipping routes. it took 13 tugs and the removal of tens of thousands of tonnes of sand to free her. 0ur global trade correspondent dharshini david reports. in the last few minutes, the authorities say if the pace continues, the backlog could be cleared within three and a half days. for six days, it has gripped and confounded the world, but the bottleneck sealing one of the busiest shipping lanes has been uncorked. the ever given, owned by company evergreen, is finally on the move thanks to a fleet of tug boats, diggers and an exceptionally high tide. moving the ship was never going to be easy. the iso—year—old canal is less than 300 metres wide. by contrast, the mega ship is 400 metres long, and 20 times heavier than the eiffel tower. almost 30,000 cubic metres of mud have had to be shifted. also shifting the costs. carrying 20,000 containers, the ever given is the answer to our growing shopping lists. a similar number of ships go down the canal as did a0 years ago, but now they're carrying more than three times as much. around 52 go through everyday, accounting for around i2%, or £7 billion, of global trade. now, behind the ever given, there have been than 300 vessels there have been more than 300 vessels queueing, their cargo everything from food to medicine to livestock and cars. they too may have more trouble on the horizon. there is a large backlog of vessels that are waiting to go through the canal from both sides, and i think even operating at full capacity, it's going to take probably several weeks to get back to normal. and in the meantime, of course, the vessels that are starting off that were due to travel through the canal at the moment will continue to be diverted. the ever given and its cargo was due to arrive in felixstowe next week, that its customers and many other still await an edta. but its customers and many other still await an eta. we have six containers on the sea on the wrong side of the suez canal, and the reality, we are a fun gift and the reality, we're a fun gift business, which means our product isn't critical, but there's a lot of critical products and essentials on those vessels. but how to prevent a repeat of this disruption? analysts say the egyptian authorities will be looking closely. it's a major artery for the world so none of us wants to see thisj happening again, so anything that can be done to create a safe - environment for this| i think will be looked at and dealt with in due course. a pandemic, changes due to brexit, rising shipping costs and now this. the trade that propels jobs and profits has faced fierce headwinds. they will be awhile before it gets back on course. it will be awhile before it gets back on course. dharshini david, bbc news. things are on the move again. some weather with stav. hi there. it's turning much colder by the end of this week. for all areas, the return to overnight frosts, and for the easter weekend we could even see some wintry showers in places. to start this week, though, it's going to be very warm — unseasonably warm — across parts of england and wales. lots of sunshine but very wet for the north—west of scotland, thanks to this weather front, which will be hanging around through tonight and also into tuesday. quite a bit of cloud for scotland and nothern ireland. just a little bit of cloud here and there for northern england, but further south clear skies, slightly lighter winds, so it's going to be chilly in a few spots, a touch of frost, maybe some mist too, less cold further north because of the cloud, the wind and the rain. so, again, for tuesday, similar story. it's a chilly start across england and wales with lots of sunshine, and then it turns very warm into the afternoon, whereas further north there will be more cloud around, and still very wet for the north—west corner of scotland. given some sunshine, we could see the high teens for eastern scotland, but 22 or 23 could be the high across central, southern and eastern england. it does start to turn colder, though, as we reach the end of the week, with a return to overnight frosts. this is bbc news. the impact of george floyd's death was momentous. the consequences, yet to be determined — until now. it all boils down to this — one court room, ilijurors, and two very different sides of the same story. a jury of derek chauvin's peers will decide whether the police officer's actions in the final minutes of george floyd's life make him a murderer. the two sides laid out their cases. you'll hear it and you'll see at the same time while he is crying out mr chauvin never moves. the knee remains on his neck. sunglasses remain undisturbed on his head and itjust goes on. derek chauvin did exactly what he had been trained to do. the use of force is not attractive, but it is a

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