drjenny harries — the deputy chief medical officerfor england. the prime minister is likely to be asked about today's other main news — as the duchess of sussex tells american tv that her treatment by the royal family led her to contemplate suicide. she tells oprah winfrey that one unnamed family member raised questions about the skin colour of her son archie. so, we have in tandem the conversation of, "he won't be given security, he's not going to be given a title." and also, concerns and conversations about how dark his skin might be when he's born. oprah winfrey has since said harry wanted to clarify that it was not the queen or prince philip who made the comments about archie's skin. she also addressed the couple's desire for privacy. hello. welcome to this bbc news special — in the next few minutes the prime minister will be leading a coronavirus news briefing at downing street. today marks the first stage of the borisjohnson�*s road map out of lockdown for england. all schools and colleges in england can now reopen. millions of children have gone back to school after more than two months studying at home. most secondary schools have started with a phased return this week — but pupils must take coronavirus tests in order to be allowed into school. face coverings are being recommended for secondary school pupils in the classroom and when walking between classes. university students in england can return for practical courses and there will be a review by the end of the easter holidays for all other students. until last night, you could only meet one person outside for exercise. but now, two people from different households can meet outside for recreation, which can include "a coffee on a bench" or a picnic. and care home residents can now receive visitors — one nominated person can visit as long as they wear ppe and get a negative result from a lateral flow test. physical contact will need to be kept to a minimum. the overarching �*stay at home rule' is still in place. in northern ireland, the youngest three years of school returned today. there will be a review of current measures on the 18th of march. in wales, children aged from three to seven went back last month. it's been confirmed that older primary age groups — and secondary school pupils preparing for exams — will return next monday. and in scotland, years one to three have been back at school for the past fortnight. the remaining primary school years and some secondary school pupils will return from next week. all this comes as new figures from the office for national statistics suggest more than 90% of adults in britain are positive about having the coronavirus vaccine. those most likely to be hesitant about having a jab include black people, lower earners, and people with children aged under four. with more on the return to school, here's sean dilley. and then we're going to go up one of your nostrils... for pupils at the bexleyheath academy in south—east london, it's an experience that may feel more medical in nature than traditionally educational, but it is the new normal, at least for now. oh, that is awful. there's no doubt that the lateral flow tests cause slight discomfort, but there's a real sense here that students are prepared to do whatever is necessary to protect others. we would rather be safe than not so, we've just got to do what we have to do, and if we have to wear masks, we have to wear masks. i'm prepared to do it, i'm happy to do it, i but i think the whole process is a bit nerve—racking. - hopefully, within a few weeks, i will get used i to the feeling and will be able to prepare myself before. - like all secondary schools in england, pupils will be offered three on—site tests in the first two weeks, followed by twice weekly home tests after that. secondary students are asked to wear face masks wherever social distancing is not possible. some teachers say government guidance on the matter could be stronger, but it's not a concern here. face masks in classrooms, that is new from today and we are encouraging all of our students to wear a face covering. we have been overwhelmingly positive in the response from our students that are cooperating with that request. primary school pupils in england are not being asked to wear masks or take tests. for parents, there is palpable relief after more than two months of remote learning from those children. i think it's essential now that we try to get back some sort of normality. i think, obviously, the children need it. we all need to get back to some sort of routine. i'm very reassured that the transition from being in lockdown at home, studying online, to being back in school will be a really smooth transition, hopefully. he doesn't seem worried. he has been seeing his teachers every day online, and the students. on a school visit in essex, labour has launched a campaign for universal breakfast clubs, to help children in england catch up on lost learning. they make a huge difference, notjust in learning but also social development. we want to see that properly funded and available for all children to help in particular with the catchup that is needed. the government says reopening of english schools to all pupils is an important first step in lifting lockdown restrictions. this is the first step on that road map to recovery. we have always prioritised children. we have said that schools will be the last to close, and the first to open. it is so important for young people's mental health and well—being. in northern ireland, younger primary schoolchildren are also returning today. in scotland and wales, younger primary pupils returned last month, with phased returns for more pupils from 15th march. the government says it will monitor the reopening of schools in england closely, but it is clear it does not want to restrict attendance in future. let's speak to dr mike tildesley from the university of warwick — he's a member of the sage subgroup, the scientific pandemic influenza group on modelling — known as spi—m. the group provides advice about infectious disease modelling to the government. he's speaking in a personal capacity. thank you forjoining us. the retentive schools, do you have concerns that that is going to drive up concerns that that is going to drive up the r number in the coming days and weeks?— and weeks? there are always concerns. _ and weeks? there are always concerns, of _ and weeks? there are always concerns, of course. - and weeks? there are always concerns, of course. any - and weeks? there are alwaysl concerns, of course. any form and weeks? there are always . concerns, of course. any form of reopening, we know, will have an impact in terms of increasing the r number. the key thing we need to look at this moment is notjust what happens in cases but what happens with hospital admissions and also deaths because we know we are getting levels of coverage in the older generations in terms of the vaccines at the moment. the hope is evenif vaccines at the moment. the hope is even if we see cases go up, hopefully we won't see similarly hospital occupancies and deaths go up. i might expect there might be in three weeks' time, we may start to see the r number creep above running cases go up again but the key thing is can we keep the key pressure of our hospitals and people developing severe symptoms are low? if that is a case, hopefully we can continue this gradual reopening in society. all the numbers about things you've talked about, cases, hospitalisations and deaths are all downwards in a negative direction. is there a case, could there be a case theoretically, if the numbers keep going down, that borisjohnson speeds up, accelerate his road map out of lockdown?— out of lockdown? well, possibly in the latter stages. _ out of lockdown? well, possibly in the latter stages. i _ out of lockdown? well, possibly in the latter stages. i would - out of lockdown? well, possibly in the latter stages. i would say - the latter stages. i would say initially, i think caution has to be the key because we know that when we reopen, it takes about 2—3 weeks before we see any evidence of that reopening affecting cases and it takes about another week or two before whether it affects hospitalisations and deaths. i think in the first instance, given all children are going back primary and secondary, we need to be a little careful and monitor what happens over the next three to five weeks on that. as we get more towards the summer, as we start to get more and more people vaccinated, if we really start to see those hospital occupancy numbers and death numbers reaching really low levels, that might be different and it may be that things can happen a little more rapidly. but right now, we need to be cautious not to go too far so we undo all of the good we are gaining by more and more people being vaccinated. by more and more people being vaccinated-— vaccinated. very good to talk to you. thank _ vaccinated. very good to talk to you. thank you _ vaccinated. very good to talk to you, thank you so much - vaccinated. very good to talk to you, thank you so much for - vaccinated. very good to talk to i you, thank you so much for being with us. in our other main story today — which the prime minister is likely to be questioned about shortly — the duchess of sussex has said she found life within the british royal family so difficult that at times she "didn't want to be alive any more". in an interview with oprah winfrey, meghan markle also claimed there had been concern within the palace, before her son was born, about the colour of his skin. oprah winfrey has since said harry wanted to clarify that it was not the queen or prince philip who made the comments about archie's skin. daniela relph reports. the duchess of sussex didn't hold back. she described a royal life of loneliness and isolation that left her in the darkest of places. so, were you thinking of harming yourself, were you having suicidal thoughts? yes, this was very, very clear. wow. very clear and very scary. and, you know, i didn't know who to even turn to in that. these are the thoughts that i'm having in the middle of the night that are very clear, and i'm scared, because this is very real. this isn't some abstract idea, this is methodical, and this is not who i am. meghan described feeling unsupported by what she called "the institution." the duke and duchess of sussex! she talked about this charity event in january 2019. she said just before leaving, she told her husband that she'd thought about taking her own life. she describes how the glamour on the outside hid the pain on the inside. wait, listen — did you hear that? the interview was personal, revealing and, at times, shocking. she told oprah winfrey that her son archie's mixed race heritage was an issue. that when pregnant, someone within the palace questioned how her child would look. in those months when i was pregnant, all around this same time, so we have in tandem the conversation of, "he won't be given security, he's not going to be given a title." and also, concerns and conversations about how dark his skin might be when he is born. what? and you're not going to tell me who had the conversation? i think that would be very damaging to them. the interview highlighted strained relations within the royal family. meghan said media reports claiming she'd made her sister—in—law, the duchess of cambridge, cry, were false. in fact, it was the other way round, she said, and kate had apologised. when harryjoined the conversation with oprah, he described how he felt both his brother and father were trapped within the royal family. of william, he said their relationship now needed space and he hoped it would heal. and he revealed a rift with his father. there's a lot to work through there. you know, i... i feel really let down. because he's been through something similar. he knows what pain feels like. and this is... and archie's his grandson. but at the same time, of course, i will always love him. but there is a lot of hurt that's happened. there were lighter moments, too. the new baby is a girl, due in the summer. and life in california has brought the couple peace. this is, of course, one side of the story. but the interview is deeply critical of the royal family and its staff. it was a portrait of an institution unable or unwilling to help those struggling within it. daniela relph, bbc news. as we say, borisjohnson might be asked about the oprah winfrey interview during the briefing he will give at number 10 downing st to stop it starts at the top of the hour and he will be accompanied by doctorjenny harries, deputy chief medical officer for england. but crucially, he will be talking about today does not return to schools. we can talk about that now in the build—up to that press conference. i can speak to our political correspondent, helen catt. day one of the prime minister's road map out of lockdown, march the 8th, the long—awaited date when school children in england go back to school. , , ., school. yes, the first day of the first step of what boris - school. yes, the first day of the first step of what boris johnson | first step of what boris johnson said he hopes is going to be an irreversible move out of lockdown. the government had always said it wanted to get the school is back, it wanted to get the school is back, it wanted to get the school is back, it wanted to get all schools in england opened today to all children. i think there will be a sense of relief there has actually had that happen today. i think there are some other small tweaks today to the restrictions to mark the beginning of that move out of eventual lockdown. so from today, care home residents are allowed one named a regular visitor to have indoor visits. they can hold hands but through ppe. for everybody else, that change has been made to that one plus one rule for being outside. now you can meet someone else for recreation, notjust for exercise. that means you can go and have a coffee in the park. those are the sort of small steps at the beginning of this route out of lockdown. bringing the schools back is the big step but, of course, keeping the children in school will be the key thing over the next few weeks and the government i think we'll be watching the data very, very closely over the following weeks as we move towards the dates he hopes to be able to move into further steps through their seizing of lockdown restrictions. that is why there are so many weeks between the steps, to allow the ministers, to allow the scientists to look at the effects of each of those steps. so this is a big moment and i didn't boris johnson is going to want to mark that they say is that start of hopefully moving out of lockdown but i think we will probably hear a bit of caution also, because there is still a very long way to go before we get through the rest of those ste s. . ~ we get through the rest of those ste s. ., ~ i. we get through the rest of those ste s. . ~' ,, , our health correspondent, nick triggle is here. i will have to rudely interrupt you if we see borisjohnson emerging at no 10, i know you are used to that! let me ask you first of all, this return to school, big moment as helen was saying, but partly facilitated by this testing in schools in england. it facilitated by this testing in schools in england.- facilitated by this testing in schools in england. facilitated by this testing in schools in encland. , �* schools in england. it is. and there are some concerns _ schools in england. it is. and there are some concerns about _ schools in england. it is. and there are some concerns about this. - schools in england. it is. and there i are some concerns about this. under the testing regime, all secondary school pupils in england are being offered a rapid on the spot test. the first three are being done in school, and then after that they are to do the test regularly at home. now, if they test positive in school, it is assumed that that test result is correct. but there is a different policy once the testing moves to home. then pupils who test positive with this rapid test will be asked to take what is called a pcr test, these are the tests they use in the official testing centres and they are sent off to labs to process. and they are sent off to labs to rocess. . ~' and they are sent off to labs to rocess. . ~ , ., a process. thank you, nick. i said i would rudely _ process. thank you, nick. i said i would rudely interrupt _ process. thank you, nick. i said i would rudely interrupt you - process. thank you, nick. i said i would rudely interrupt you and i l would rudely interrupt you and i just have done. here isjenny harries and also the prime minister borisjohnson with the latest briefing. good afternoon, and thank you for joining us. this has been a big day and an emotional day for millions of families up—and—down the country as children see and play with their friends at school for the first time in months. and although i know that some will have been anxious as pupils always are on the first day of term, i also know that the overwhelming feeling is one of relief. we all know the education of our children is so important that the greater risk now is keeping them out of school for a day longer. i want to thank all the teachers who got their school is ready and have been teaching throughout the whole period, whether that's remotely or in person. your work has been astonishing. and i want to thank the parents and all those who have been teaching at home who have had to master zoom, communicate every detail of the syllabus from front to adverbial is to quadratic equations, and we all know that the burden has disproportionately fallen on women. often holding downjobs and providing childcare at the same time. ourjob now is government is to build on your effort so that from now on our school children not only catch up on lost learning, but take the biggest possible step forwards, with a concerted national programme for educational recovery. it is thanks to all of you, parents, teachers, pupils, thanks to this huge national effort to keep kids at home, that we have been able to significantly reduce the spread of the virus. and so today, we have been able to take that crucial first step on what we hope is our cautious but irreversible road map to freedom. today allowing people to meet one—on—one outside for the first time in months, allowing care home visits to take place with all appropriate precautions. this first step on the road map is made possible, above all, by our nhs which has now vaccinated more than a third of the entire uk population. we take this step with confidence because all four of the most vulnerable groups have not only been vaccinated in overwhelming numbers, but it is now three weeks, or at least three weeks, since they have received their first dose so that they will be feeling the full benefits of the vaccine's protection. we will continue on this road map. but we must remember that today's return to schools will, of course, have an impact on the spread of the virus. and so at all times, and as we decide on the next steps forward, and when we take them, we will be driven by the data. and with the number of patients being admitted to hospital with covid each day still around eight times higher than the lows of last summer, it's more vital than ever to follow the rules. hands, face, space command please continue to stay at home, protect the nhs and save lives. thank you very much. i will hand over tojenny to do the slides. thank you, prime minister. could i have the first slide, please? what we can see here is a pleasing picture but one which i think still has some caution attached to it. this shows the number of people testing positive, both by pcr and lefty tests and the average is 5800 89/7 days. the case rate is falling, it is below 100 per 100,000 in every region across the country, but it is not uniformly across the country so it is really important that we continue to practice social distancing, hands, face in space, is the prime minister has just said, and continue to observe all of our hand washing as well. you can see that the rate is now where it was in the end of september, so still quite a high level. this is the level at which a new wave could easily take off again from, and we need to persist with all of those actions. next slide, please. this slide shows the number of people in hospital with covid—19 in the uk, that dotted line across the middle shows what the first peak was, about 21,000 on the first peak was, about 21,000 on the 12th of april, and then the real height that it climbed to over the new year. again, it is back down to around 10,000, but this is still a substantial strain on the nhs and not one that we can afford to rise from again with any further pandemic waves, so you can see there is a lag as we would expect in the case numbers and then that appearing in our hospital rates. a good sign but still some way to go. next slide, please. the third slide we have here shows the number of deaths, sadly, of people who had a positive test result and then died within 28 days of that first test. this is reported at the 8th of march and again it is really good to be able to see that the average rate over seven days is now down to 206 deaths, we can see the characteristic reporting blips at the weekend where the rate is lower which is why we have that rolling average, and you can see now this is falling right down. the really good news is here is that as the vaccine starts to have an effect in older people who have been vaccinated first and are most vulnerable, that the impact on the number of deaths is starting to come down more rapidly than some of the other indicators. and one more slide, please, ithink. what we other indicators. and one more slide, please, i think. what we have here is the number of people who have received a vaccination for covid—19. huge numbers and extremely fast progress thanks to colleagues particularly in the nhs, but right around the country in local authorities with volunteers. bluey purple line is those who have received their first dose but if you look at the bottom of the slide you can see an orange line starting to rise up and these are individuals who have now come to the 12 week period and have had their second dose as well. these are each individual counted. we are now heading up to 2a million on this and i think when we get a little further we will be heading right up towards 50% of population. so not really good news, but while we are understanding what the effect of vaccine is on transmission, we anticipate this will have a really good impact on protecting individuals from serious illness. but we still need to watch and wait to see what's happening. so again, the strong message is keep practising those social distancing measures. thanks very much, jenny, let's go to watford. ., , ., , ., thanks very much, jenny, let's go to watford. ., , .,, ., , watford. young people have been hit hard b the watford. young people have been hit hard by the pandemic— watford. young people have been hit hard by the pandemic however- watford. young people have been hit hard by the pandemic however the i hard by the pandemic however the government seems to have put us at the bottom _ government seems to have put us at the bottom of the priority list. what — the bottom of the priority list. what is — the bottom of the priority list. what is the government doing to ensure _ what is the government doing to ensure that young people will be catered — ensure that young people will be catered for in terms of support both now and _ catered for in terms of support both now and the after—effects of when the pandemic is over? now and the after-effects of when the pandemic is over?— now and the after-effects of when the pandemic is over? ar'un, thank ou ve the pandemic is over? ar'un, thank you very much. * the pandemic is over? ar'un, thank you very much, the h the pandemic is over? arjun, thank you very much, the most _ the pandemic is over? arjun, thankj you very much, the most important thing we are able to do today is to get young people back into school. obviously for all of those people who are of school age that makes a massive difference. and i think that thatis massive difference. and i think that that is something that is going to be really welcome to families up—and—down the country. but for those young people who are thinking about jobs, those young people who are thinking aboutjobs, thinking about their futures, clearly we want to give you the maximum possible help and that's why we have the kick—start funds to help young people, specifically the 18-24 help young people, specifically the 18—24 —year—olds group, arjun, into work, and to make sure that we support businesses now with special packages to enable them to take on young people. this is going to continue to be a tough time for the country. but i'm confident that we will be able to get through it very well and start to have a realjob is led recovery. but for now we have to beat the pandemic. arjun, that is not in any way to underestimate the pressure young people have been under. i do understand how tough it has been, obviously particularly for university students who haven't had anything like the university experience that they would have liked. but the faster we can get through it and the more we can observe the guidance, asjenny has said, working together we will be able to continue on the cautious but irreversible road map and give young people the freedom that they need. let's go to phoebe from leeds. i have heard a lot about vaccine passports _ have heard a lot about vaccine passports to allow british tourists to travel — passports to allow british tourists to travel again but i'm just wondering how this is going to work for under— wondering how this is going to work for under 16s. wondering how this is going to work for under16s. i can wondering how this is going to work for under 16s. i can imagine this is a question— for under 16s. i can imagine this is a question on a lot of people's mines — a question on a lot of people's mines and _ a question on a lot of people's mines and we are also eager to start hooking _ mines and we are also eager to start booking your holidays again. phoebe, a really excellent _ booking your holidays again. phoebe, a really excellent question _ booking your holidays again. phoebe, a really excellent question about - a really excellent question about vaccine passports and how they would work for under 16s. we are looking at the way these types of vaccination certificates might work. they do raise all sorts of issues for those like under 16—year—olds who might not have had a vaccination for one reason or another, though those who are not medically able to get a vaccination, for instance. there are some complexities. we are looking at what they are thinking of in other countries and we will be making sure we report back to you as soon as we possibly can. as you may know, work is being done by michael gove at the chancellor of the duchy of lancaster, on that whole issue. it is a novel one for our country. we have never had this type of question before within the domestic uk economy within our own home market, though clearly vaccine passports as an idea are not new when it comes to international travel. they have been certificates for things like yellow fever and other diseases in the past. and i'm sure that that will be a feature of our life in the future. ben wright of the bbc. our life in the future. ben wright of the bbc-— our life in the future. ben wright of the bbc. ., ,, , ., , ., our life in the future. ben wright of the bbc. ., ,, , ., ., of the bbc. thank you. i question to both of you — of the bbc. thank you. i question to both of you first. _ of the bbc. thank you. i question to both of you first. now— of the bbc. thank you. i question to both of you first. now that - of the bbc. thank you. i question to both of you first. now that schools | both of you first. now that schools in england — both of you first. now that schools in england have reopened, do you accept _ in england have reopened, do you accept infection rate levels will go up, accept infection rate levels will go up. and _ accept infection rate levels will go up, and what would be an acceptable level? _ up, and what would be an acceptable level? and _ up, and what would be an acceptable level? and a second question to the prime _ level? and a second question to the prime minister, please. in their interview. — prime minister, please. in their interview, harry and meghan claimed the rovoi— interview, harry and meghan claimed the royal family fell to look after their mental health and an unnamed member— their mental health and an unnamed member of— their mental health and an unnamed member of the family asked how dark her son— member of the family asked how dark her son archie's skin might be. what did you _ her son archie's skin might be. what did you think— her son archie's skin might be. what did you think when you heard those comments — did you think when you heard those comments and should buckingham palace _ comments and should buckingham palace investigate the allegations? then, _ palace investigate the allegations? then, thank you very much. on your second question, perhaps the best thing i can say is that i have always had the highest admiration for the queen and the unifying role that she plays in our country and across the commonwealth. and as for the rest, all other matters to do with the royal family, the rest, all other matters to do with the royalfamily, i have spent a long time now not commenting on royalfamily matters and a long time now not commenting on royal family matters and i a long time now not commenting on royalfamily matters and i don't intend to depart from that today. on your question about the budget of risk involved in opening up schools, which i actually referred to earlier on, we do accept, i think, jenny, that of course there will be a risk of increased transmission, that's inevitable if you open up schools for millions of kids across the country. that is going to happen. but we think that we can do it now in the way that we are because we have the proportion of the population vaccinated that i described, the groups 1—4, and having had the immunity bedded in after at least three weeks, and we think it is prudent to be able to do so. but as i said earlier on, we will continue to be driven by data and not dates as we approach the next steps april 12, may 17, june 21, we will continue to assess where we have got to. the data on the vaccinations and the impact they are having is very encouraging. but we have to remain very, very cautious. anything to add on that, jenny? exactly as the prime minister said, we do expect an impact on the r number and people will have seen some of the sage comments, but clearly education is of critical public health importance just as much as covid is. and so, what we do know is, or at least we cannot disentangle the social interaction element of that rise in the r number, so it is likely people meeting at the school gates, or the different numbers of social interactions, as much as it is in schools, so the critical point is there are new interventions, so the testing for schools is in place starting from now and gradually for some senior pupils going forward. what that is likely to do is diminish the number of community transmission cases, which could come into schools, so schools will be inherently safer places. but equally it will reach back into families, so although i suspect we may see a rise at the start, with luck as we go forward and people getting used to using the testing, whole families will be protected as well. the whole issue about vaccination, of course, issue about vaccination, of course, is we have now protected the most vulnerable individuals as we come down the age groups and into those with underlying health conditions. and so the impact on our forward is likely to be significantly less. thank you. robert peston, itv. is this the moment to spend £200,000 on the _ is this the moment to spend £200,000 on the refurbishment of your downing street— on the refurbishment of your downing street fiat _ on the refurbishment of your downing street flat and have any of the bills been settled by the conservative party or private donors? _ conservative party or private donors? and with the vaccination programme being significantly accelerated since you prepared your road to— accelerated since you prepared your road to releasing the lockdown measures, won't you consider speeding _ measures, won't you consider speeding up the release of lockdown measures? thank you very much, mas? — thank you very much, robert. ms? — thank you very much, robert. on your first point, all i can say is all such enquiries will be answered with the normal declarations in the normal way. on your second question about accelerating the timetable and the road map, people have asked us to do this many times. of course, i understand the urgency that people feel, but we have to be driven by the data. we have to look at the rates of infection for stop don't forget, they are still very high by the standards of last year. we still have thousands of people in hospital with covid and we have seen, alas, in other european countries, that the curve is going up again. we remember, frankly, what happened every time we had seen those upward curve is in ourfriends and neighbours, that it is not too long after that that we see an increase in this country as well. so we just have to remain prudent and the whole point about this road map, robert, is it is intended to be cautious but irreversible. we think we can do that because of the success of the vaccine roll—out that he rightly described but i think people would really rather trade some urgency and some haste in favour of security and certainty about those dates that we have set out. april 12, may 17, june 21 and so on. thank you, robert. 21 and so on. thank ou, robert. �* �* , thank you, robert. lbc, ben kentish. a cou-le thank you, robert. lbc, ben kentish. a couple of— thank you, robert. lbc, ben kentish. a couple of weeks _ thank you, robert. lbc, ben kentish. a couple of weeks ago _ thank you, robert. lbc, ben kentish. a couple of weeks ago on _ thank you, robert. lbc, ben kentish. a couple of weeks ago on the - thank you, robert. lbc, ben kentish. a couple of weeks ago on the issue i a couple of weeks ago on the issue of financial — a couple of weeks ago on the issue of financial support for people who are having — of financial support for people who are having to self—isolate, you said we would _ are having to self—isolate, you said we would hear more from the chancellor last week. we didn't hear any more _ chancellor last week. we didn't hear any more than that. it is something your scientific advisors have called for repeatedly, the head of test and trace has— for repeatedly, the head of test and trace has suggested is necessary. will we _ trace has suggested is necessary. will we hear more on that issue or do you _ will we hear more on that issue or do you think— will we hear more on that issue or do you think those advisers are wrong — do you think those advisers are wrong on — do you think those advisers are wrong on that? secondly, if i could follow _ wrong on that? secondly, if i could follow up _ wrong on that? secondly, if i could follow up on robert's question. you said the _ follow up on robert's question. you said the road map would be guided by the data _ said the road map would be guided by the data at— said the road map would be guided by the data. at the moment it is guided by data _ the data. at the moment it is guided by data which is overly pessimistic. we know— by data which is overly pessimistic. we know the vaccine roll—out have been _ we know the vaccine roll—out have been better, vaccines are more effective. — been better, vaccines are more effective, hospitaladmissions been better, vaccines are more effective, hospital admissions at lower— effective, hospital admissions at lower ends of what was predicted in the models. if it is truly dictated by data. — the models. if it is truly dictated by data, will it be assessed at regular— by data, will it be assessed at regular intervals to make sure we are not— regular intervals to make sure we are not prolonging the resumption of normality— are not prolonging the resumption of normality in the economic damage that goes— normality in the economic damage that goes with that longer than a science _ that goes with that longer than a science as — that goes with that longer than a science as is necessary? thank— science as is necessary? thank you so much. what we're doing in addition to help people to self—isolate in addition to the £500 support and all the rest of it is giving money particularly to councils. i have a figure of £170 million more in my head to support them, to help them give people who really need it to self—isolate. that is one of, that is possibly what i was referring to last time that we talked. on your question about being driven by the data and the data now being positive. look, iaccept by the data and the data now being positive. look, i accept that and i agree that there are some encouraging signs. but the whole point is, you know, we remember where we were last summer. we had the disease down to levels much below where it is today. then we saw what happened with the spike. i think it is fantastic that the vaccine roll—out is proving so successful but don't forget that there is a big budget of risk involved in opening schools today in the way that we are. that is just inevitable. you heard whatjenny had to say about the effect on r. we think it is manageable, it is right, we're prudent to be doing what we are. as i say, i think the biggest risk is not opening schools now but we will continue to take a cautious and prudent approach because i think is really what... what i think british business would rather say, a cautious and irreversible approach rather than a hasty approach that we have to reverse. just adding to that, i think perhaps what people are not always aware of is the proportion of the population who are still left, even though we had a brilliant vaccination programme rolling out, there will still be a large proportion of the population level two could become infected in the future. so we clearly need to push the vaccination programme right out and looking for new variants. that is another important element as to why we need to wait and check. we are actually, in the uk, doing more genomics than anywhere else in the world and that is an important area to look at and keep observing. then we need that time period. there is too weak to illness and a two week to hospitalisation, so that 45 assessment period is critical to know the intervention that has gone in and the results are linked, not to have multiple interventions and then be confused at what we have managed to achieve. —— that 4—5 week assessment period is critical. ham;t assessment period is critical. harry cole. education unions have said this morning — education unions have said this morning they could foresee schools re-closing — morning they could foresee schools re—closing at some point again. do you foresee — re—closing at some point again. do you foresee that happening? and a question— you foresee that happening? and a question for the prime minister. the worids— question for the prime minister. the world's media is wall—to—wall with accusations — world's media is wall—to—wall with accusations of britain as an unwelcoming and racist country today — unwelcoming and racist country today. has that damaged this nation question— today. has that damaged this nation question what do you believe that the royal— question what do you believe that the royal family, clean aside, is racist? _ racist? go - racist? go on. .. ., racist? go on. the education uestion, the go on. the education question, the short answer— go on. the education question, the short answer is, _ go on. the education question, the short answer is, hopefully - go on. the education question, the short answer is, hopefully not. - go on. the education question, the short answer is, hopefully not. 0ur| short answer is, hopefully not. our children's education is so critical which is why it is schools that opened first. we had a question earlier on, highlighting how young people have been affected through the pandemic. so i would certainly not want that to happen but i think we can be very optimistic going forward. forall of we can be very optimistic going forward. for all of the reasons i said earlier around our vaccination programmes and the surveillance we have an operation. the testing programme in schools should mean that the likelihood of a case going into the school and then numbers of children having to come out of education to isolate should be very significantly reduced. there may be, and a forewarning here, there may be and a forewarning here, there may be a very short period at the start of this programme where everybody gets used to it and a larger number of children come out of school and then it will settle down. so i think it is really important that when observing this, people think through the next 3—4 weeks, not the first 1-2. and on your other point, and i congratulate you on your very determined attempt to involve me in this story more than i have said already. but i really think that when it comes to matters to do with the royal family, the right thing for the prime minister to say is nothing and nothing is the thing i propose to say today about that particular matter. thank you very much. dominic yeatman of the metro. thank you. prime minister, your education — thank you. prime minister, your education secretary yesterday announced the biggest shake—up since the war— announced the biggest shake—up since the war with longer school days and a five _ the war with longer school days and a five term — the war with longer school days and a five term year among the measures suggested _ a five term year among the measures suggested in a bid to help children catch— suggested in a bid to help children catch up— suggested in a bid to help children catch up on their missed education. when _ catch up on their missed education. when can— catch up on their missed education. when can parents and teachers expect to see _ when can parents and teachers expect to see these plans and secondly, if i to see these plans and secondly, if i made. _ to see these plans and secondly, if i made. is — to see these plans and secondly, if i made, is £3.50 a week extra and appropriate — i made, is £3.50 a week extra and appropriate reward for the nurses who are _ appropriate reward for the nurses who are steering britain out of this pandemic? — pandemic? dominic, first of all on your point... i will come to the education recovery plan. on your point about nurses, i would stress first of all the gratitude i think everybody feels towards the nursing profession and all the health and social care workers. one of the most important thing is that nurses tell me they want to see is more nurses to help them on the wards, to help them cope with the pandemic and everything else. there are 10,000 more now this year than there were last year. that is a good thing. there is also a big increase in recruitment, by the way. i think it is up something like 36%. i understand, of course, that the whole sector has been under massive pressure and that is why we are investing colossally on top of the £140 billion annually that we give to the nhs, an extra £62 billion to support the nhs. and above all, to help boost that recruitment drive that i think is really crucial for the well—being of nurses across the country, in addition to the 12.8% pay increase that they got, at the most recent round. so that is where we are on that. on your excellent question about the schools recovery plan, i would echo what the secretary of state for education said. this is a huge moment. we have to recognise that parents up and down the country, teachers have been coping with absolutely exceptional circumstances. some pupils have had differential loss of learning. for one reason or another, they have been more disadvantaged by the pandemic than others. we have to make up that loss to learning. we have to be very creative and very direct in the way that we do it. one of the things we are looking at and that sir kevin collins, the education recovery commissioner, is looking at is tutoring and what you can do to make a difference one—on—one with pupils. that might apply to kids who have fallen behind or kids who just need their potential unleashed in all sorts of ways. we are also looking, as we've said, at the whole curriculum, making sure that we do as much as we can to give kids the opportunities that they need. so a lot of work is going to be done on this. as i said, at i think one of these press conferences recently, i think that, actually, it is our biggest national challenge. yes, we have to defeat the backlog in the nhs, in the courts, all the problems that have built up as a result of covid but i think the biggest challenge now is remediating the damage done to the education of kids and young people in this country. i know we can do it, i absolutely know we can do it, but it will take a lot of focus and a lot of drive and that is why we have appointed sir kevin and his team. 0k, team. ok, wasa team. ok, was a direct question for you? i 0k, was a direct question for you? i don't think so. 0k. _ 0k, was a direct question for you? i don't think so. 0k. andrew - 0k, was a direct question for you? i i don't think so. 0k. andrew woodcock from the independent. _ don't think so. 0k. andrew woodcock from the independent. good - from the independent. good afternoon. _ from the independent. good afternoon, doctor— from the independent. good afternoon, doctor harries, l from the independent. good | afternoon, doctor harries, we from the independent. good - afternoon, doctor harries, we are hearing _ afternoon, doctor harries, we are hearing reports are fairly large numbers— hearing reports are fairly large numbers of parents failing to give permission for their children to be tested _ permission for their children to be tested when they return to school. what _ tested when they return to school. what i _ tested when they return to school. what i would like to ask is are those — what i would like to ask is are those children undermining the safety— those children undermining the safety of— those children undermining the safety of their classmates when they are together in the classroom, should — are together in the classroom, should they be kept separate from their classmates? prime minister, if i can their classmates? prime minister, if ican follow— their classmates? prime minister, if i can follow my colleagues in straying _ i can follow my colleagues in straying away from coronavirus, you are currently— straying away from coronavirus, you are currently threatening for the second — are currently threatening for the second time to unilaterally breach the terms — second time to unilaterally breach the terms of the northern ireland protocol, — the terms of the northern ireland protocol, which you negotiated and signed _ protocol, which you negotiated and signed as— protocol, which you negotiated and signed as part of your brexit deal. we hear— signed as part of your brexit deal. we hear you may be planning to do the same _ we hear you may be planning to do the same thing with regards to imports — the same thing with regards to imports from the eu to mainland britain _ imports from the eu to mainland britain he — imports from the eu to mainland britain. he said at the time the deal— britain. he said at the time the deal was — britain. he said at the time the deal was a _ britain. he said at the time the deal was a great deal, you said there _ deal was a great deal, you said there were nontariff barriers. you told northern irish businessmen they could throw any customs forms in the bin and _ could throw any customs forms in the bin and yet— could throw any customs forms in the bin and yet yesterday lord frost, your— bin and yet yesterday lord frost, your minister, wrote that at the time _ your minister, wrote that at the time of— your minister, wrote that at the time of the _ your minister, wrote that at the time of the negotiations that it was clear that _ time of the negotiations that it was clear that there was no world in which _ clear that there was no world in which the — clear that there was no world in which the eu would eliminate trade barriers _ which the eu would eliminate trade barriers. isn't it time now for you to come — barriers. isn't it time now for you to come clean with voters and admit that all— to come clean with voters and admit that all of— to come clean with voters and admit that all of these problems are not teething — that all of these problems are not teething problems, that trade barriers — teething problems, that trade barriers and the damage they cause are part _ barriers and the damage they cause are part and parcel of your brexit deal? _ should always be allowed to come into school, it is their right to have an education and it is important for the long—term health and their support so that they know what to expect. my experience was once the child will give their permission and will adopt it. partly because it is not just for the child and the school, but it is actually for their family's benefit as well if they have elderly relatives in the family, gives the whole family assurance as well. children will never be forced to have a test, they can have a test without the appropriate permission, but i think the important thing is for parents to ask if they are concerned about it and people will help them understand what the test is about. thanks very much. on your question about the northern irish protocol and the trade and cooperation agreement with our friends in the eu, i think it is a great deal because it enables us notjust to have free trade with the eu but also to do what we wanted to do which is do things differently where we think that might be a good idea. in the last few months you have seen examples of that, whether it is in the vaccination roll—out programme or the free trade agreements we have been able to strike, or the freeports we announced in the budget, or doing otherforms of regulation differently. and i think it is great to get those two things working together, that's a free—trade agreement plus the ability to do things differently in our own way. and insofar as there have been teething problems and there is no question that there have been, we are fixing those with some temporary technical things that we are doing to smooth the flow which i think are very sensible and i'm sure that it can all be ironed out, sorted out insofar as the eu objects to that with goodwill and imagination and that's what we intend to bring to it. i'm sure that our friends will as well. you will have to forgive me if i'm considerably more optimistic about all of that than perhaps the tone of your question suggested you are at the moment. but i think you are going to be pleasantly surprised as things, as common—sense begins to prevail. thank you all very much and see you next time. thank you. studio: that's the end of the latest downing street coronavirus briefing with the prime minister and drjenny harries. let's look at some of the main points from the downing street for those returning to school in england — he said everything is being done to protect children and staff, and that the greater risk is keeping pupils out of the classroom a day longer. the prime minister acknowledged today is the first on what he called our �*irreversible road map to freedom' — as the first of england's lockdown measures are eased. but both borisjohnson and england's deputy chief medical officer, drjenny harries, said the number of new infections remain high, and emphasised that now is not the time to lower our guard. let's speak to our political correspondent, helen catt. that was a constant line of questioning from some of the journalists, why not accelerate the easing of lockdown if the figures are looking pretty good? absolutely. this is questions _ are looking pretty good? absolutely. this is questions we _ are looking pretty good? absolutely. this is questions we have _ are looking pretty good? absolutely. this is questions we have heard - this is questions we have heard asked before a borisjohnson but the point being made here i think is that the prime minister has consistently said he will not follow arbitrary dates, he will follow the data. the questions being asked there, if you're doing that and the data is better—than—expected, what then would it not been not following the data if you don't speed it up? the answer you got from jenny harries and borisjohnson was that they are waiting to see those two weeks after making one particular action to see it filter through into the levels of people getting ill, two weeks after that is going into hospital, that's what they have built in five weeks between steps to see how each individual action filters through to those and they will monitor that data pretty closely. jenny harries also making the point that the level of infections we have at the moment and level of hospitalisations is the level of hospitalisations is the level from which a new wave could take off again, so there was certainly that stress still on remaining prudent and borisjohnson suggesting that actually thought people would prefer that. the phrase he used it as he thought people would trade urgency and haste for security, again because, as they keep on saying, they want this road map out of lockdown to be cautious but as you said, irreversible. there is a risk in opening schools, we saw that acknowledged there as well, that acknowledged there as well, that this will impact on the spread by having children back in schools, borisjohnson talking about it being a big budget of risk, the phrase he used on reopening schools, they want to see how that pans through before moving on to the latest stages. this was a coronavirus _ moving on to the latest stages. this was a coronavirus briefing but not surprisingly few journalists tried their luck asking the prime minister for his reaction to the harry and meghan interview, and not surprisingly equally it played a pretty straight bat. absolutely. downing street _ pretty straight bat. absolutely. downing street have _ pretty straight bat. absolutely. downing street have been - pretty straight bat. absolutely. downing street have been veryj downing street have been very tight—lipped on this today, his official spokesman was asked at lunchtime about this and was told the prime minister not watch the interview and wasn't giving much away and suggested this would be the opportunity when journalists should ask the prime minister about his views. as you said, being very straight down the line, there is a delicate balance to be struck between downing street and how it comments publicly on the the country. i think we might see slightly lower numbers this week but the following weeks should bring very good news on vaccinations. bend very good news on vaccinations. and also ruite very good news on vaccinations. and also quite good news on vaccinations is people's attitudes to the vaccine. there has been a survey researching that showing an increasing desire to have the vaccine and to think the vaccine is a good thing. vaccine and to think the vaccine is a good thing-— a good thing. yes, as a nation we are becoming _ a good thing. yes, as a nation we are becoming more _ a good thing. yes, as a nation we are becoming more positive - a good thing. yes, as a nation we | are becoming more positive about a good thing. yes, as a nation we - are becoming more positive about the covid vaccine as the success of the programme has developed. the office for national statistics when it looked at how positive we were, were we willing to have the vaccine in december it was just below 80% of people said they would be willing to have the vaccine. now it is over 90%, either people willing to have it, or have had it. but there are still some differences when we look at age groups. one in six people aged 16—29 say they are hesitant, that means they would either refuse to have it or have refused to have it. and when you look at ethnic groups, four in ten people from the black communities say they are hesitant. it is clear there are still some work to do to convince some people but overall people are very positive and willing to have that vaccine.— very positive and willing to have that vaccine. ., ,, , ., , . that vaccine. thank you very much, nick triggle. _ that vaccine. thank you very much, nick triggle, our _ that vaccine. thank you very much, nick triggle, our health _ nick triggle, our health correspondent. let's get some reaction to the prime minister's latest briefing on coronavirus, with wes streeting, thank you for being with us. as the prime minister said it is an important day and an emotional day getting kids back to school in england. do you worry it will lead to a big rise in the r number?— will lead to a big rise in the r number? , ., ., ., ., number? first of all we are all delighted _ number? first of all we are all delighted that _ number? first of all we are all delighted that schools - number? first of all we are all delighted that schools are - number? first of all we are all| delighted that schools are back today, we know that lockdown has had a detrimental impact on the education and well—being of most children, and for that reason school is the very best place for them to be. we think the government could have done more ahead of schools returning today on safety in particular, it was somewhat bemusing to see some of the infographics in some newspapers over the weekend portraying pictures of classrooms with all sorts of safety measures that i don't think you will find in a single school across the country today. we have got to keep a close eye on those infections but i think the government has missed an important opportunity, not least the opportunity to vaccinate all school staff which we called for, as well as providing a number of other safety measures which school leaders have been crying out for. let's hope today the return to school has been successful. i live right near a school so i can tell you the kids have been audibly enjoying themselves today which is great. let's hope we can keep schools a safe place for children to be because they don't need any further disruption to their education above that which they have already had, sadly. that which they have already had, sadl . ~ , ., , that which they have already had, sadl. ~ , sadly. the prime minister was asked re reatedl sadly. the prime minister was asked repeatedly a — sadly. the prime minister was asked repeatedly a question _ sadly. the prime minister was asked repeatedly a question about - sadly. the prime minister was asked repeatedly a question about if - sadly. the prime minister was asked repeatedly a question about if the i repeatedly a question about if the data, all of the data on hospitalisations, cases, deaths, if it all continues to fall quite dramatically, is there a case perhaps to speed up, to accelerate his road map out of lockdown? where do you stand on that? where do labour stand on that? could we get out of lockdown a bit quicker than the prime minister has been proposing?— the prime minister has been proposing? the prime minister has been r-rroosin? . proposing? the way in which the rrhasin proposing? the way in which the phasing has _ proposing? the way in which the phasing has been _ proposing? the way in which the phasing has been designed - proposing? the way in which the phasing has been designed as i proposing? the way in which the phasing has been designed as to proposing? the way in which the - phasing has been designed as to make sure that as and when new restrictions are brought to an end that we are able to judge over a sufficient period of time whether or not the impact has been bearable, livable or unbearable and unsafe. and so i don't think there is that kind of case for acceleration. we have to be led by the data, not the dates. my anxiety has been the other way around, actually, which is that by nailing dates into the document in the way the prime minister has, he may come under pressure, particularly from the right of his own party, who have been trying to get the government to go a lot faster on easing restrictions, which with the best will in the world, don't get me wrong, i am as anxious to get out and about in the normal way as everyone else, i have family members who are furloughed whose incomes have taken a real hit and i understand well the pain that people are going through. but we have got tojust bear in mind that are going through. but we have got to just hear in mind that the are going through. but we have got tojust bear in mind that the pain will be greater if we move too fast in easing restrictions, end up with rates rocketing as they did before when the government lost control of the virus, we ended up paying a greater cost both in terms of the impact on lives, people catching the virus, but also livelihoods. the last thing we need is the hokey coqui again going into restrictions, out of restrictions, into restrictions and out, which has had a huge cost on the economy and one of the reasons why britain is suffering from one of the west ignite downturns of any major economy because of the government's inconsistent handling of restrictions and taking their foot off the brakes too quickly. let's follow the data and scientific advice on this and hopefully with the vaccine roll—out we will all be enjoying the brighter future we all desperately look forward to. can i ask a quick _ desperately look forward to. can i ask a quick question _ desperately look forward to. can i ask a quick question about - desperately look forward to. can i ask a quick question about the interview with harry and meghan? the prime minister was asked repeatedly about that and didn't want to comment on it. but what is labour's view on the various allegations we heard from meghan markle in particular about the behaviour of the royal household? to particular about the behaviour of the royal household?— particular about the behaviour of the royal household? to be honest, no one in politics _ the royal household? to be honest, no one in politics wants _ the royal household? to be honest, no one in politics wants to _ the royal household? to be honest, no one in politics wants to be - the royal household? to be honest, no one in politics wants to be drawn| no one in politics wants to be drawn into a running commentary on the royal family. that is to be expected, to be honest. i think the one thing all of us have found uncomfortable or should find uncomfortable or should find uncomfortable is the particular allegation concerning racism. the point is when racism manifests itself, when somebody makes a complaint about racism, that can't be ignored or dismissed or brushed under the carpet. it has to be addressed. i'm sure that that is something the royal family will want to look at and take very seriously because bearing in mind today is commonwealth day, it is notjust the fact the royal family is important in this country but right across the commonwealth and at every level of our society, whether in our communities, our public services or indeed the institutions of the state including the royal family, there can be no place for racism... there can be no place for racism... are ou can be no place for racism... are you saying _ can be no place for racism... are you saying there _ can be no place for racism... are you saying there should be an investigation by buckingham palace into these allegations? i investigation by buckingham palace into these allegations?— investigation by buckingham palace into these allegations? i would have thou~ht into these allegations? i would have thou . ht the into these allegations? i would have thought the royal _ into these allegations? i would have thought the royal family _ into these allegations? i would have thought the royal family would - into these allegations? i would have | thought the royal family would want to investigate. indeed, they have recently announced an investigation into bullying within the royal household. i would think they would want to look at this allegation in the same light and with the degree of seriousness it deserves as an allegation of racism. infers of seriousness it deserves as an allegation of racism. wes streeting, thank ou allegation of racism. wes streeting, thank you for— allegation of racism. wes streeting, thank you for being _ allegation of racism. wes streeting, thank you for being with _ allegation of racism. wes streeting, thank you for being with us, - allegation of racism. wes streeting, thank you for being with us, thank. thank you for being with us, thank you for your time. the welsh government has confirmed that all primary school children will be back in classrooms next week. earlier, the wales education secretary kirsty williams briefed reporters on the easing of lockdown measures: next week, we will see the rest of our primary school pupils return to school, as well as groups of learners in secondary and more couege learners in secondary and more college students. schools will also have the flexibility to bring in pupils in years ten and 12 to support them to progress to the next stages of their learning. and we are also giving schools additional flexibility, so that learners in year seven, flexibility, so that learners in yearseven, eight flexibility, so that learners in year seven, eight and flexibility, so that learners in yearseven, eightand nine flexibility, so that learners in year seven, eight and nine are given the opportunity to check in and spend some valuable time in school with their teachers, reacquainting themselves with that environment. it is still my expectation that if the conditions allow, we would see a full return of all learners after the easter break. now, we'll know it has been a tough 12 months for our young people, being away from their friends and adjusting to studying at home and i have seen terrific work that schools and colleges have done to ensure that learning has continued, while putting in place preparations so that the return of learners is safe and they return to the classroom is as smooth as possible. i am so very grateful for school, college and local authority staff for also embracing the testing programme in our schools. by the end of this week, more than 5.5 million lateralflow of this week, more than 5.5 million lateral flow tests will have been distributed to schools, colleges and child care settings across wales, which will be an important measure to provide further assurance at this time. but i also know that extra help is needed this year, especially for learners at key stages in their academic careers and indeed their lives. last summer, i announced an extra £29 million to recruit, recover and raise standards. i set a target to recruit an additional 900 teachers or teaching assistants to provide more support for learners during the pandemic. i am pleased to report that so far, the equivalent of 1800 full—time staff members have been recruited, double the original target. but today, i can confirm that their support will go even further. as i am announcing today an extra £72 million to ensure our schools, our settings get the support that they need. this takes our support for learning recovery to over £112 million during the pandemic. that was the welsh government and's education minister. we can get what some response to that. let's speak now to the leader of plaid cymru, adam price. thank you forjoining us. all pupils in wales not back until after easter. pupils in england back today. what do you think of that delay in wales? yeah, it is a marked contrast. i think the welsh government is wise to be following a more phased approach. we have seen some criticism, haven't we, in england about the so—called all at once policy? indeed, sage scientists themselves warned against it because of the danger that it could push that famous r number above the one and we could see an exponential rise in cases and undo the progress we have seen over the weeks and months. i think it is the right approach to be cautious and to have slow and steady progress, rather than having to unwind the situation and reimpose restrictions later. 5110s? to unwind the situation and reimpose restrictions later.— restrictions later. slow and steady but as we heard _ restrictions later. slow and steady but as we heard from _ restrictions later. slow and steady but as we heard from the - restrictions later. slow and steady but as we heard from the prime i but as we heard from the prime minister, everyday out of school for a pupil is a costly and damaging day and this is time wasted, isn't it? we are talking about weeks more. yes but if you have a situation where the go back up again and things can, according to scientists, get out of control very quickly because even though we have had this great progress. we have to emphasise the policy and terms of the vaccination programme, but there is still a very high proportion of our population which remains susceptible and that is enough of a pool of potential cases. if you get in that situation, you end up having to re—lockdown schools as well. so we have to avoid that for public health reasons, for economic reasons but also in order to secure the progress, in terms of lost learning. good to hear about the additional money going into an education recovery programme. there was criticism by the education policy institute that wales had a much lower level investment in education recovery. good to see that but that has to be part of a long—term programme because the effect of the last 12 months on this generation were last over a number of years. so were last over a number of years. so we need to see a long—term investment, actually doing some of the cuts in real terms we have seen in funding the cuts in real terms we have seen infunding going the cuts in real terms we have seen in funding going back over a decade. 72 million, great, but that surely must only be a down payment on a much larger investment to make sure that this doesn't become a lost generation. but that this doesn't become a lost generation-— that this doesn't become a lost generation. but broadly you are sa in? , generation. but broadly you are saying. on _ generation. but broadly you are saying, on schools _ generation. but broadly you are saying, on schools at _ generation. but broadly you are saying, on schools at least, - generation. but broadly you are saying, on schools at least, the j saying, on schools at least, the welsh government have got things right? yes, ithink... i right? yes, i think... i am worried when i hear... i realise the dates we have heard from the uk government, they say there are caveats. but i worry that the government in england may be making the same mistake we had seen throughout the last 12 months. so you think borisjohnson has got it wrong, potentially? he so you think boris johnson has got it wrong, potentially?— so you think boris johnson has got it wrong, potentially? he said data and not dates _ it wrong, potentially? he said data and not dates and _ it wrong, potentially? he said data and not dates and then _ it wrong, potentially? he said data and not dates and then gave - it wrong, potentially? he said data and not dates and then gave us - it wrong, potentially? he said data and not dates and then gave us a l and not dates and then gave us a whole series of dates. i think there is concern. what we are not seeing as well is alongside the vaccination programme, a further emphasis on those other disease suppression techniques, particularly, it came up in the press conference, this issue about people who are not in a financial position where they can isolate. there has been repeated calls, including again from sage scientists, to increase the level of isolation support so that we don't have a position where people for pure economic reasons can't afford to do what they need to be able to do. we have to be very, very careful because as long as there is this high proportion of people who are still susceptible as a pool of potential cases in which new variants could develop and new variants could develop and new variants are of concern and could be immune to the vaccine, that could undo all of the progress we have seen over the last few months. so we need to have that i think stronger position in terms of isolation and a much stricter border policy. we know, don't worry, about 15 countries that are not on the red list have the brazilian variant, which is causing a lot of concern at the moment. we need to tighten our border control policy as well, again, so we are not in a position where we lose all the great progress, in terms of the vaccination programme over the last few months. vaccination programme over the last few months-— few months. adam price, great to talk to as other. _ few months. adam price, great to talk to as other. thank _ few months. adam price, great to talk to as other. thank you - few months. adam price, great to talk to as other. thank you for - talk to as other. thank you for being with us. restrictions have been eased in care homes in england. each resident will be allowed one person who can visit them indoors — and they'll be able to hold hands, although hugs and kisses remain forbidden. luxmy gopal reports. we've waited a long time, haven't we? to come and do this. a simple act, a year ago taken for granted, now a huge step in reuniting people with their loved ones. from today, people in care homes in england can, for the first time since the pandemic started, meet family or friends indoors, face—to—face and hold hands, separated only by gloves, whereas, previously, visits had to be from behind screens or a window, which was the only way ann could see her mother kathleen until now. lovely. it's just lovely. in fact, we all got rather emotional. but yeah, i got more response than i would get from her normally through the window. it still isn't much, but it is something. families face difficult decisions as, barring exceptional circumstances, only one person can be the visitor. my sister, ann, has been my mum's primary carer before she was admitted into the home. she lived on site on the farm, so she saw her day—to—day, so itjust came naturally that she was the first one to be allowed in. i do believe it will not be long before other family members are allowed. so, i'm prepared to wait that little bit longer cos my turn will come. this is the first cautious step in opening up care homes, and not without risk. and the extra safety measures demand extra resources. this chain of care homes has had to recruit two new staff just to oversee the visits and the lateral flow testing. it's so pleasing to see those loved ones reunited, so i think it's worth it. ijust hope that others will move forward, but we ask the government for a bit more support in helping us make sure that we can keep the visiting going because fitting everyone in has its challenges. everyone wants a visit. it's mother's day soon, so there has been tremendous demand. the visits are at the discretion of individual care homes, and the government says further physical contact such as hugging, is too much of a covid risk to be allowed. but for hundreds of thousands of families today, while they cannot hold their loved ones close, just being able to hold their hands after months of separation is close enough. luxmy gopal, bbc news, scarborough. we have been looking at the picture in england and wales. scotland's deputy first minister john swinney has held the daily coronavirus briefing today at holyrood. he said scotland is still on track to offer a first vaccination dose to all over 50—year—olds, unpaid carers and those with underlying health conditions by the middle of april. but he expressed his dismay at the scenes in glasgow over the weekend, when fans gathered to celebrate ranger's victory in the scottish premiership. winning the league was a special moment for rangers football club, and before i say more, i want to congratulate the club on the success and thank all those fans who celebrated at home and have followed the rules. but the behaviour of some fans has been an absolute disgrace. and has undoubtedly cast a shadow over what should have been a special day for the team. the success that we have had in recent weeks in reducing case numbers is because so many people across scotland have stuck to extremely tough rules, which are designed to prevent the spread of the virus between different households. to see so many people deliberately flouting these rules with no regard for the safety of others is shameful. events like yesterday risk spreading the virus and they show no regard or respect at all for the millions of households across scotland who have been sticking to the rules, who haven't been able to meet up with friends and families, to fully celebrate birthdays and other milestones, or, in some cases, to attend funeral services of their loved ones. the government and police scotland reminded rangers of the need for the club to advise fans to adhere to the current restrictions in discussions on 26th of february and 5th march. it is a matter of profound regret that that did not happen. the scottish government will be making our extreme disappointment at the lack of leadership clear to the team management, and will be speaking to all of the authorities about what further assurance they can give to us ahead of future planned games. that was scotland's deputy first minister. clare adamson is a snp member of the scottish parliament and convener of the education select committee at holyrood. thank you for being with us. can i ask you first of all about those comments on rangers fans, an absolute disgrace he said. thousands gathering on the streets. strong words of condemnation, do you share those? i words of condemnation, do you share those? ., words of condemnation, do you share those? ~ , ., words of condemnation, do you share those? ~ i. ., , ., ., words of condemnation, do you share those? ~ ., , ., ., those? i think you only have to look at some of— those? i think you only have to look at some of the _ those? i think you only have to look at some of the footage _ those? i think you only have to look at some of the footage from - those? i think you only have to look at some of the footage from the - at some of the footage from the event and the destruction of the vandalism in george square. memorial benches being destroyed. this has really hurt people in glasgow. i know my glasgow msps have also condemned the behaviours. no one would want to deny that this was a win for the club and they should be allowed to celebrate but it should have done with respect to other people and certainly the level of behaviour that we saw last night is just simply not acceptable.- just simply not acceptable. should there be repercussions for the club, for rangers? i there be repercussions for the club, for rangers?— for rangers? i think we need to let the authorities _ for rangers? i think we need to let the authorities look _ for rangers? i think we need to let the authorities look into _ for rangers? i think we need to let the authorities look into what - for rangers? i think we need to let the authorities look into what has i the authorities look into what has happened, what has gone wrong. i think the deputy first minister made his views about the club and lack of leadership absolutely clear. there are certainly many questions being asked at the moment and we need to get those answers over the next few days to ensure that this level of disruption on our town streets doesn't happen again. let disruption on our town streets doesn't happen again.- disruption on our town streets doesn't happen again. let me ask you about the return _ doesn't happen again. let me ask you about the return of _ doesn't happen again. let me ask you about the return of children _ doesn't happen again. let me ask you about the return of children to - about the return of children to schools in scotland now. we have been hearing of course about what has been going on in england today, all pupils going back in england. in scotland, it was some pupils going back a couple of weeks ago, february 22. what has been the evidence so far, in terms of how far that reopening of schools has affected the coronavirus data? irate reopening of schools has affected the coronavirus data?— reopening of schools has affected the coronavirus data? we know that the coronavirus data? we know that the government _ the coronavirus data? we know that the government had _ the coronavirus data? we know that the government had taken - the coronavirus data? we know that the government had taken a - the coronavirus data? we know thatl the government had taken a cautious view and a cautious approach to this, so a staged return to school has been planned from the outset. we are seeing good news in terms of the covid restrictions taking a good suppression of the virus in our communities and we see that working and the vaccination working and that is all very welcome but that has been done in lockdown. so what we have to do is release gradually and ensure that people are returning safely to schools and that we are supporting the most vulnerable young people in our schools and those who are taking their exams, and all schools, if things continue to be as good as they are at the moment, then all schools should be returning after the easter break. john swinney. — after the easter break. john swinney, the _ after the easter break. john swinney, the education - after the easter break. john swinney, the education secretary, was saying infection levels have continued to fall in scotland despite that reopening of schools on february 22. irate despite that reopening of schools on february 22— february 22. we know that actually what the scientific _ february 22. we know that actually what the scientific data _ february 22. we know that actually what the scientific data shows - february 22. we know that actually what the scientific data shows us i february 22. we know that actually what the scientific data shows us is that the outbreaks in school are small and that the risk is small. but what we don't want is pupils going home and an outbreak being spread into the adult population and being seated in our communities. that is what we have to be wary of. the more people that are vaccinated, and the vaccination programme is working really well in scotland as you havejust working really well in scotland as you have just said, working really well in scotland as you havejust said, the more people vaccinated the safer it will be to return to full—time education and in the meantime we are doing it as safely as possible, continuing to do our facts, about face coverings, avoiding crowded spaces, ensuring that the cleanliness is still happening in schools and ventilation is there and asking pupils to wear facemasks and continued to observe two metres distancing to be as safe as possible. two metres distancing to be as safe as possible-— as possible. clare adamson, thank ou, from as possible. clare adamson, thank you. from the _ as possible. clare adamson, thank you, from the snp, _ as possible. clare adamson, thank you, from the snp, convener- as possible. clare adamson, thank you, from the snp, convener of. as possible. clare adamson, thank| you, from the snp, convener of the education select committee at thank you. in northern ireland, pre—school, nursery and primary school pupils in p1 to p3 — that's all children under the age of eight — have started to return to school today. they will then resume remote learning on 22nd march to enable the return of years 12 to 14, until the start of the easter holidays. let's speak to our ireland correspondent, chris page. chris, a rather different approach in northern ireland to what we have seenin in northern ireland to what we have seen in england with the return of all pupils to schools in england. that's right, the staggered start that we have had here beginning today with, as you say, then, pupils in the first three years of primary school, plus there was a bit younger in the preschool year going back, well, the northern ireland executive, the devolved government here, said that's because they want to take a cautious approach, make sure that this lockdown is the last, and therefore, they have acted on their public health advice, and in their public health advice, and in the case of northern ireland that has been that people shouldn't all come back at once, instead they should come back in stages. there is a chance that the plan might be adjusted later on this week. executive ministers will be meeting and the education minister peter weir of the democratic unionist party said today as he was visiting a primary school which was bringing back pupils, but he would actually like to see pupils in the rest of primary schools, pupils from years 4-7 at primary schools, pupils from years 4—7 at primary school, back this month. as things stand they are not supposed to come back until after the easter holidays. also he has suggested that maybe the plan for pupils in the first three years of primary school who were back today should be changed and that as things stand they are supposed to go back just for a fortnight this week and next we can go back to remote lonely because pupils in the last three years of secondary school go back. so it is a bit of a complex picture and he has said he would like p1— p3 pupils are in school that they should stay in, so we will see what ministers decide towards the end of the week. the indicators by which the week. the indicators by which the effectiveness of the coronavirus restrictions and coronavirus vaccination programme are going in the right way and you could find whenever principles have their feedback as to how this week has gone, whenever parents have had their say, as they have been, as you can imagine, on the radio airwaves today in northern ireland, ministers will take into account all of that plus what public health advisers are saying and they could, and a stress code, come up with a slightly different plan. but as things stand at the moment, the majority of schoolchildren still not scheduled to go back until after the easter holidays in the middle of april. the]!!! holidays in the middle of april. all right, chris, we will see what happens. thank you. chris page in belfast. let's look at some of the main points from the downing street briefing, led by the prime minister. borisjohnson said today had been an emotional one for those returning to school — he said everything is being done to protect children and staff, and that the greater risk is keeping pupils out of the classroom for a day longer. the prime minister acknowledged today is the first on what he called our �*irreversible road map to freedom�* — as the first of england�*s lockdown measures are eased. but both borisjohnson and england�*s deputy chief medical officer, drjenny harries, said the number of new infections remain high, and emphasised that now is not the time to lower our guard. let�*s speak to professor sir mark walport, who was previously the government�*s chief scientific adviser and who is currently a member of the uk government�*s scientific advisory group for emergencies. speaking to us in a personal capacity. thank you forjoining us. the prime minister was asked at his briefing whether there is a case, if all the data is going on the right direction, in other words down, cases, hospitalisations, deaths, going down rapidly, is there a case for accelerating, speeding up his road map out of restrictions? what is your view on that? ida. road map out of restrictions? what is your view on that?— is your view on that? no, there is not a good _ is your view on that? no, there is not a good case _ is your view on that? no, there is not a good case because - is your view on that? no, there is not a good case because we - is your view on that? no, there isj not a good case because we know there is a big change being made, young people getting back to school, and everyone agrees that is an enormously important priority, but it takes time if the transmission is going to go up to see the effects of that, and so it will take a few days for the children to become infected, another few days if they pass it onto others, and so it is a case of having to wait, that�*s been one the challenges with coronavirus all along, that there is a lag between the moment you get infected, if you are unlucky you end up in hospital and may be another two weeks before some people sadly died. and so there is a lag and if we are to see the effect of what are quite big changes in our behaviour, then it takes time to do that. that�*s against the background of very good news which is that the numbers of cases are coming down, we can see that the death rate is coming down faster in those that have had the vaccine than those that have had the vaccine than those that have had the vaccine than those that haven�*t, the vaccine figures are extraordinary, about 23 million people in a third of the population, having had the first dose of the jab. this is all good news. but as was said at the briefing, there are still 10,000 people in hospital and this is where we were roughly at the end of september. and if we simply took the brakes off, there are enough people who are not immune out there for this to take off explosively again. with the return of all pupils to schools in england, what would be a good outcome in your view? do you expect the r number is going to rise a bit? is that the expectation? the exoectation _ a bit? is that the expectation? the exoectation is _ a bit? is that the expectation? iie: expectation is that the r a bit? is that the expectation? "iie: expectation is that the r number will rise a bit but the answer is that a good outcome is keeping children in school, not ending up with big outbreaks in the community, which is why the testing is important, and basically being able to follow through with the plan. that�*s why rushing it would be such a mistake. i that's why rushing it would be such a mistake. , , , . a mistake. i suppose the difference with coming — a mistake. i suppose the difference with coming out _ a mistake. i suppose the difference with coming out of— a mistake. i suppose the difference with coming out of previous - with coming out of previous lockdowns is we do have the vaccine roll—out, which you yourself said is incredibly successful so far, more than 22 million people vaccinated, and also on that, i want to get your reaction on this. there is some ons data showing that people asked about the vaccine, 94% of people are now positive about that. in december it was 78%. so it looks like more and more people in the country are very enthusiastic about having the vaccine. , , ., vaccine. yes. it is true in general that people _ vaccine. yes. it is true in general that people in — vaccine. yes. it is true in general that people in the _ vaccine. yes. it is true in general that people in the uk _ vaccine. yes. it is true in general that people in the uk have - vaccine. yes. it is true in general| that people in the uk have always been good about having vaccines, actually. but i think as people see firstly that many people are having the vaccine, that they may have 24 hours of feeling a bit but there is also emerging evidence that this vaccine is protecting people against the serious complications, it is not surprising people are becoming more confident. so this is good news. but is also has been emphasised there are some communities that are more reluctant than others, so younger people seem to be more reluctant and also some ethnic minority immunities.— also some ethnic minority immunities. , ., . ,, immunities. some figures to back that u . , immunities. some figures to back that up. we _ immunities. some figures to back that up. wt of — immunities. some figures to back that up, 4496 of black— immunities. some figures to back that up, 44% of black adults - immunities. some figures to back that up, 44% of black adults are i that up, 44% of black adults are hesitant about the vaccine, 17% of 16-29 hesitant about the vaccine, 17% of 16—29 —year—olds also hesitant. what can be done about that in terms of trying to encourage those people, those groups of society, to be more enthusiastic? i those groups of society, to be more enthusiastic?— enthusiastic? i think it is about role models — enthusiastic? i think it is about role models that _ enthusiastic? i think it is about role models that they - enthusiastic? i think it is about role models that they value i enthusiastic? i think it is about| role models that they value and appreciate, and i think a lot of people are getting out and talking about it, and i think this about communication, notjust at a national level but at a local level, in faith communities, in schools, and all the places that can encourage people with role models that people think are relevant to them. , , , , that people think are relevant to them, , , , ~' ., . them. just briefly, we know what the road ma- them. just briefly, we know what the road map is — them. just briefly, we know what the road map is in _ them. just briefly, we know what the road map is in england, _ them. just briefly, we know what the road map is in england, we - them. just briefly, we know what the road map is in england, we have - them. just briefly, we know what the | road map is in england, we have seen all the dates ending with the key date in june all the dates ending with the key date injune with the end of all the restrictions. is that your expectation? even if we can�*t speed that up it will not have to be slowed down?— that up it will not have to be slowed down? . , ., , ., slowed down? that is what everyone ho res and slowed down? that is what everyone hopes and it — slowed down? that is what everyone hopes and it is _ slowed down? that is what everyone hopes and it is really _ slowed down? that is what everyone hopes and it is really important. - slowed down? that is what everyone hopes and it is really important. we | hopes and it is really important. we can see from other countries, there is another wave in this infection if we are unlucky if we don�*t control our social behaviour so it is really important. the wild card with all of this is the virus itself. we know there are variants emerging which potentially can escape at least part of the immune response. the vaccines are being adapted to be able to deal with that, and so it is important that we get the case numbers down low so that new variants can be detected a bit more easily. but all being welcome all the signs are really very good indeed at the moment. �* ._ , really very good indeed at the moment. �* , ., really very good indeed at the moment-— really very good indeed at the moment. �* ., ., ,, ., moment. always good to talk to you. thank ou moment. always good to talk to you. thank you so — moment. always good to talk to you. thank you so much _ moment. always good to talk to you. thank you so much again, _ moment. always good to talk to you. thank you so much again, professorl thank you so much again, professor sir mark walport. on the day that england began its roadmap out of lockdown, the prime minister, told today�*s downing street briefing that more than a third of the adult population have now received their first dose of the coronavirus vaccine. borisjohnson also took his time to thank parents for all their hard work in home schooling their children as schools across the country reopened their doors to pupils. this has been a big day and an emotional day for millions of families up and down the country, as children see and play with their friends at school for the first time in months. and although i know that some will have been anxious as pupils always are on the first day of term, i also know that the overwhelming feeling is one of relief. we all know that the education of our children is so important that the greater risk now is keeping them out of school for a day longer. i want to thank all the teachers who�*ve got their schools ready and have been teaching throughout the whole period, whether that�*s remotely or in person. your work has been astonishing. and i want to thank the parents and all those who have been teaching at home who have had to master zoom, who�*ve had to communicate every detail of the syllabus from fronted adverbials to quadratic equations, and we all know that the burden has disproportionately fallen on women. often holding downjobs and providing childcare at the same time. so ourjob now as government is to build on your effort so that from now on our school children not only catch up on lost learning, but take the biggest possible step forwards, with a concerted national programme for educational recovery. it is thanks to all of you, parents, teachers, pupils, thanks to this huge national effort to keep kids at home, that we have been able to significantly reduce the spread of the virus. and so today, we have been able to take that crucial first step on what we hope is our cautious, but irreversible, road map to freedom. today allowing people to meet one—on—one outside for the first time in months, allowing care home visits to take place with all appropriate precautions. that was the prime minister in downing street with the latest coronavirus briefing on the day that pupils in england returned to schools. you�*ve been watching a special programme from bbc news. let�*s talk about the other big story of the day. once again, the royalfamily is at the eye of a global storm over its treatment of the duchess of sussex, over the fall—out between prince harry and his father, and over the issue of race — and all in an interview on american television, which early ratings data shows was watched by 17 million americans. the duchess told oprah winfrey she had felt suicidal and considered harming herself before withdrawing from royal duties. she also said that an unnamed figure in the family had raised concerns to prince harry about how dark skinned their children would be. the duke of sussex also told the talk show host that he still had a good relationship with the queen, but prince harry spoke about his troubled relationship with his father. this report from our royal correspondent daniela relph. the duchess of sussex didn�*t hold back. she described a royal life of loneliness and isolation that left her in the darkest of places. so, were you thinking of harming yourself, were you having suicidal thoughts? yes, this was very, very clear. wow. very clear and very scary. and, you know, i didn't know who to even turn to in that. these are the thoughts that i'm having in the middle of the night that are very clear, and i'm scared, because this is very real. this isn't some abstract idea, this is methodical, and this is not who i am. meghan described feeling unsupported by what she called "the institution." the duke and duchess of sussex! she talked about this charity event in january 2019. she said just before leaving, she told her husband that she�*d thought about taking her own life.

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