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say the future of some firms have been thrown in to doubt by the latest measures. it's a record seventh fa cup quarterfinal in a row for manchester united. they need extra time, but a single goal takes them past west ham on a bitterly cold night at old trafford. good morning. it was a bitterly cold night. 0nce good morning. it was a bitterly cold night. once again the temperature fell to —16.7. night. once again the temperature fell to -16.7. it night. once again the temperature fell to —16.7. it could still slip further. a cold day ahead, further snow showers, especially in the east, some blowing to the west, but some sunshine in between. all the details later. it's wednesday, the 10th of february. our top story. hundreds of thousands of people living in buildings deemed unsafe since the grenfell disaster will find out today how the government plans to help them. housing secretary robertjenrick is expected to announce new support measures in the commons later. 0ur political correspondent jonathan blake reports. piece by piece, flammable cladding is removed from high—rise blocks across the uk — but figures show this work has been completed on fewer than half the buildings deemed unsafe, and home owners in the flats affected are living with the consequences. higher insurance costs, an inability to sell their homes, and bills for other fire safety measures have left many thousands worse off. there will be more bankruptcies. there will be more people losing their homes like i did. this is going to be such a disaster if we don't get the full help that this situation calls for. it's three and a half years since 72 people died in the fire at grenfell tower in london, where cladding on the outside of the building caused flames to spread. the government has allocated £1.6 billion to pay for similar dangerous cladding to be removed from buildings. but a committee of mps warned the true cost of all necessary work after grenfell could run to £15 billion. labour have said it's shameful that people are still trapped in unsafe homes, and have called on the government to provide up—front funding. conservative mps are among those putting pressure on the government to go much further than it has so far to address a growing crisis. jonathan blake, bbc news. passengers who break strict new quarantine rules could face fines of £10,000 and up to ten years in prison. under the new measures, travellers arriving into england from 33 red—list countries will need to pay almost £1,800 to quarantine at a special hotel. in scotland, the rules apply to all passengers arriving from oversees. charlotte wright reports. while holidays like this are illegal under the uk's lockdown rules, essentialjourneys are still happening. liz had to travel to portugal when herfather died. and under the strict rules coming into force on monday, she'll now need to spend ten days in a quarantine hotel at a cost of £1,750 when she returns home. it's extortionate. i think it would be really, really depressing on top of being quite miserable anyway. we're coming back not from a nice holiday, but from, you know, grieving for either a lost one or ill families, etc. so i think this needs to be considered in how they treat people. under the new measures, all passengers will have to self—isolate for ten days, and be tested on day two and day eight. in england, those arriving from the 33 countries on the government's red list will need to quarantine in a hotel at their own cost. and if people violate the rules, they could face large fines and potentially up to ten years in prison. scotland has gone one step further, and confirmed anyone returning from abroad will have to enter a quarantine hotel. the idea is to try to stop variants from overseas getting a foothold in the uk. but the airline industry is concerned the more restrictions are added, the longer they'll take to remove. the worry is that this is advice for several months over the summer season into the autumn. the worry is that this is in place for several months over the summer season into the autumn. we desperately need there to be a review period included into this measure so that we can look at the implementation and the effectiveness and — once it is safe to do so — opening up the sector. the health secretary says the travel rules in england will be relaxed as soon as it's safe to do so. charlotte wright, bbc news. senators in the united states have voted to continue donald trump's impeachment trial, after he was accused of inciting the mob which stormed the capitol building last month. the former president's lawyers argued the process was unconstitutional, because he was no longer in office. but six republicansjoined democrats in voting to carry on. 0ur correspondent david willisjoins us. good david willisjoins us. morning. how did the democi launch good morning. how did the democrats launch their case?— launch their case? democratic lawmakers — launch their case? democratic lawmakers acting _ launch their case? democratic lawmakers acting as _ launch their case? democratic i lawmakers acting as prosecutors showed a 30 minute video, a very harrowing video of the mob attacking the capitol building on the 6th of january. it showed police officer screaming as he was trapped under a door, it showed lawmakers fleeing for their lives. door, it showed lawmakers fleeing fortheir lives. 0ne door, it showed lawmakers fleeing for their lives. 0ne police officer takes aim and fios at one of the protesters, killing them. donald trump is interspersed, or a speech that he gave, is interspersed through those video clips and at one point he urges his supporters to "fight like hell", in order to overturn the result of last november's presidential election. his lawyers maintained that he was speaking figuratively and not literally, and that, anyway, his comments were protected under the us constitution's freedom of speech. they failed to have the proceedings thrown out. a vote of 56—44, as you mentioned, in favour of moving the matter along. there will be now two days for each side, prosecution and defence, to make their case, and we could possibly have a vote, either acquitting or convicting donald trump, as early as this weekend. it needs a two thirds majority in the senate to convict him, and i have to say that that looks unlikely. despite all we've seen in recent months, the republican party remains very staunchly loyal to donald trump. very staunchly loyal to donald trum - . very staunchly loyal to donald trum. . ~ very staunchly loyal to donald trum. ., ~ ,, very staunchly loyal to donald trum. . ~' ,, , very staunchly loyal to donald trum. . ~' , . very staunchly loyal to donald trum. . ~ , . ., trump. 0k, thank you very much for that. covid restrictions have made this year much tougher for young people dealing with a cancer diagnosis, according to two leading charities. the teenage cancer trust and clic sargent have written a letter to ministers in the uk's four nations to highlight the issue. they say too many young people are having to go alone to hospital check—ups and treatment — sometimes for weeks at a time. 0ur health correspondent jim reed reports. 21—year—old daniela alves is a make—up artist and dancer. in september, she was told she had a rare blood cancer. being a make—up artist, ijust thought, like, my hair's going to fall off. like, that wasjust, like, everything for me. and i feel like all the worst thoughts just went through my head. the pandemic has made the last year that much tougher for young people already dealing with a diagnosis of cancer. restrictions on hospital visits meant daniela had to go to appointments and treatments by herself. no—one knows you like your mum or a family member. it was just very, very scary. like, there were times where i'd find myself crying my eyes out, basically, because i wanted a hand to hold. every year, around 4,000 children and young people in the uk receive a cancer diagnosis. today, two medical charities have written to ministers asking them to commit to young people that they should not have to hear the news they have cancer — or face their treatments — alone. it would make an enormous difference to young people's lives just to have somebody with you a most difficult time with your cancer treatment, and the most difficult time during the global pandemic — to have somebody who you know, and who knows you. 18—year—old michaela forrester had to go to hospital on her own for a stem cell transplant. nhs england guidance does say patients like her should be able to have family supporting them. but cancer charities say, too often, that is simply not happening. it would have made, like, a huge difference if my mum could have been there cos there were days when i was up at, like, six in the morning and they were having loads of tests done and it was just really scary and i just wanted my mum to be there, but she obviously couldn't. the government says it knows the pandemic is particularly difficult for people like michaela and daniela. it says it is committed to making hospital visits possible, while managing the risk of infection. jim reed, bbc news. we will be talking about that later in the programme, as well. international experts investigating the origins of covid—19 say it's "extremely unlikely" that the virus leaked from a lab in the city of wuhan. the investigation, conducted by the world health organization, began last month, and has been closely monitored by the chinese authorities. 0ur china correspondent stephen mcdonell is in wuhan. tell us what they learnt, what did they tell you? the tell us what they learnt, what did they tell you?— tell us what they learnt, what did they tell you? the scientists, they will be leaving _ they tell you? the scientists, they will be leaving wuhuan _ they tell you? the scientists, they will be leaving wuhuan today, - they tell you? the scientists, they will be leaving wuhuan today, we | they tell you? the scientists, they - will be leaving wuhuan today, we may even see a few of them come through while we are under. already there has been something of a war of words following the announcement of their findings with the samejoe biden administration saying they will not rely on these findings until they have done their own independent verification. that has prompted one of the scientists to say on twitter, look at this, joe biden has to look tough on china. please don't rely too much on us intel, increasingly disengaged under trump and frankly wrong on many aspects. happy to help the white house with their crist done her quest to verify but don't forget it is a quest then verify. many are asking this team why they simply took the word of the wuhuan institute of urology that there was no leak there. at the same time they have said no more effort should be going into this and they want the scientific community to put all their efforts, resources and time in their efforts, resources and time in the animal to animal to human part of the coronavirus because they think that is the most likely source of this pandemic.— think that is the most likely source of this pandemic. good to see you, thank ou of this pandemic. good to see you, thank you very _ of this pandemic. good to see you, thank you very much _ of this pandemic. good to see you, thank you very much indeed. - of this pandemic. good to see you, thank you very much indeed. a - of this pandemic. good to see you, | thank you very much indeed. a year ago in wuhuan, when this all sort of... when we started this journey that we've been on, shall i say? a, that we've been on, shall i say? journey is one way of describing it. the queen's grand—daughter, princess eugenie, has given birth to herfirst child— a boy. given birth to her first child — a boy. princess eugenie posted a picture on instagram following his arrival. the classic, that, isn't it? the baby — whose name has not yet been announced — is the queen's ninth great—grandchild and eleventh in line to the throne. in a statement, the palace said the queen and eugenie's parents, the duke and duchess of york, were "delighted". this, by some distance, is my favourite story of the year. {131 this, by some distance, is my favourite story of the year. of the ear?! of favourite story of the year. of the year?! of the _ favourite story of the year. of the year?! of the year! _ have you had any zoom fails during lockdown? they're probably not as good as this one... a virtual court hearing in the us state of texas where the lawyer accidentally appeared on screen as a wide—eyed, fluffy kitten. mr ponton, i believe you have a filter turned on in the video settings. you might want to... uhh! we're trying to... we're trying... can you hear me, judge? i can hearyou, i think it's a filter. it is, and i don't know how to remove it. i've got my assistant here, she's trying to, but... 0h. i'm prepared to go forward with it. i'm here live, it's not — i'm not a cat. ..i can see that. its magical, isn't it? it is brilliant. _ this is texas lawyer rod ponton, who accidentally appeared behind filter during a zoom court hearing. luckilyjudge roy ferguson, who presided over the session, saw the funny side and decided to release the footage. that is why we are allowed to show it. iii that is why we are allowed to show it. ~' that is why we are allowed to show it. ~ ., ., ., it. if he knew how to get rid of the filter. " it. if he knew how to get rid of the filter- ' my — it. if he knew how to get rid of the filter. " my assistant", _ it. if he knew how to get rid of the filter. " my assistant", hopefully. it. if he knew how to get rid of the filter. " my assistant", hopefully aj filter. " my assistant", hopefully a teenager who could sort it out. that is an absolute _ teenager who could sort it out. that is an absolute belter. "i am not a cat!". is an absolute belter. "i am not a cat!“. ., ., ., is an absolute belter. "i am not aj cat!'-— good cat!". carol, good morning. good morninu. cat!". carol, good morning. good morning- a _ cat!". carol, good morning. good morning. a good _ cat!". carol, good morning. good morning. a good chuckle - cat!". carol, good morning. good morning. a good chuckle this - morning. a good chuckle this morning _ morning. a good chuckle this morning. a good chuckle this morning. a cold start to the day once _ morning. a cold start to the day once again _ morning. a cold start to the day once again. at 4am at altnaharra it was 461 — once again. at 4am at altnaharra it was —16.7. the second day we have had such_ was —16.7. the second day we have had such a — was —16.7. the second day we have had such a low temperature, and the lowest _ had such a low temperature, and the lowest of— had such a low temperature, and the lowest of this winter so far. not 'ust lowest of this winter so far. not just in_ lowest of this winter so far. not just in altnaharra, it is cold across— just in altnaharra, it is cold across the whole of the uk with temperatures widely below freezing. through— temperatures widely below freezing. through the rest of the week, it will stay— through the rest of the week, it will stay cold, although now there is a hint_ will stay cold, although now there is a hint that on sunday something a bit less— is a hint that on sunday something a bit less cold — is a hint that on sunday something a bit less cold will come our way from the west _ bit less cold will come our way from the west. once again today, a lot of snow— the west. once again today, a lot of snow showers across the central belt, _ snow showers across the central belt, north—east england come into the south—east and forming lines like the _ the south—east and forming lines like the last few days. if you get them _ like the last few days. if you get them they could be quite persistent but them they could be quite persistent hut they— them they could be quite persistent but they are showers and so you may miss them _ but they are showers and so you may miss them altogether. some will ease through— miss them altogether. some will ease through the afternoon. the wind is not as— through the afternoon. the wind is not as strong today but still we will see — not as strong today but still we will see some blown over to the west _ will see some blown over to the west if— will see some blown over to the west. if few across northern ireland and these _ west. if few across northern ireland and these are our maximum temperatures. still feeling cold, especially so if you are exposed to wiml _ especially so if you are exposed to wiml it _ especially so if you are exposed to wiml it is— especially so if you are exposed to wind. it is not quite as strong as it was— wind. it is not quite as strong as it was yesterday and if anything tonightm — it was yesterday and if anything tonight... look how these ice advice reatiy— tonight... look how these ice advice really spaced out. clear skies, still some _ really spaced out. clear skies, still some wintry showers over the centrai— still some wintry showers over the central lowlands. one or two possible _ central lowlands. one or two possible across parts of cornwall. these _ possible across parts of cornwall. these temperatures are in towns and cities _ these temperatures are in towns and cities in _ these temperatures are in towns and cities. in ruralareas these temperatures are in towns and cities. in rural areas it will be much — cities. in rural areas it will be much colder than this. we can see -10, _ much colder than this. we can see -10, for— much colder than this. we can see —10, for example, in east anglia, -17 —10, for example, in east anglia, -i7 in— —10, for example, in east anglia, -i7 in parts— —10, for example, in east anglia, —17 in parts of the highlands and grampians. we start off on this bitterly— grampians. we start off on this bitterly cold note tomorrow. some ice rather — bitterly cold note tomorrow. some ice rather like this morning, on untreated — ice rather like this morning, on untreated surfaces, but a lot of dry weather _ untreated surfaces, but a lot of dry weather. lighterwinds, more weather. lighter winds, more sunshine _ weather. lighterwinds, more sunshine. stilla weather. lighterwinds, more sunshine. still a few wintry showers through— sunshine. still a few wintry showers through parts of the north and east. towards _ through parts of the north and east. towards the west, the cloud is building — towards the west, the cloud is building and we will start to see some _ building and we will start to see some sleet and snow coming in, followed — some sleet and snow coming in, followed by some rain. look at those temperatures. three degrees in belfast — temperatures. three degrees in belfast and plymouth but still cold across _ belfast and plymouth but still cold across the bulk of the rest of the uk. ., ~ , ., . across the bulk of the rest of the uk. thank you. we will pay very close attention. _ uk. thank you. we will pay very close attention. you _ uk. thank you. we will pay very close attention. you have - uk. thank you. we will pay very close attention. you have had . uk. thank you. we will pay very close attention. you have had a | uk. thank you. we will pay very - close attention. you have had a busy week and there are also some very cold temperatures and snow to talk about, thank you. let's take a look at today's papers. the metro leads with the "travel crackdown" in england. it says travellers who arrive from high—risk countries will have to spend £1,750 isolating for ten days in a hotel. the daily telegraph says conservative mps and travel bosses have criticised the ten year sentence for people who hide visits to "red list" destinations. in an article for the paper, former supreme courtjudge lord sumption says mr hancock's reality has "finally snapped". but mr hancock said the restrictions were needed to combat the new virus variants. the daily express's headline is "'kick in the teeth' for nhs heroes". it says nhs staff who have worked flat out during the covid crisis are being penalised by the relaunch of hospital parking charges. and weetabix very nearly sparked a diplomatic incident yesterday when the company tweeted to suggest customers try topping the cereal with baked beans. the us embassy retweeted the post, writing, "this is not the us—uk collaboration we were hoping for." prompting the response: "strong opinion from the nation that makes tea in a microwave." laughter diplomatic incident. laughter di - lomatic incident. . laughter dilomatic incident. . , ., diplomatic incident. have you tried it? i diplomatic incident. have you tried it? i literally _ diplomatic incident. have you tried it? i literally got _ diplomatic incident. have you tried it? i literally got micro _ diplomatic incident. have you tried it? i literally got micro would - diplomatic incident. have you tried it? i literally got micro would the l it? i literally got micro would the baked beans _ it? i literally got micro would the baked beans be _ it? i literally got micro would the baked beans be hot? _ it? i literally got micro would the baked beans be hot? would - it? i literally got micro would the baked beans be hot? would you| it? i literally got micro would the - baked beans be hot? would you have milk with it? so many questions. boundaries in food, i don't think they exist but there are weird commendations. i like my mate and they can, you like my mike dunn sausages. i used to love chocolate spread, underwhite sausages. i used to love chocolate spread, under white blue bread, and salt and vinegar crisps, then a layer of sour cream, then cheddar cheese and you know those silver skin pickled onions? takes it up a notch. ~ , ., i. skin pickled onions? takes it up a notch. ~ , ., . ., notch. why would you cringe at the criss? if notch. why would you cringe at the crisps? if heston _ notch. why would you cringe at the crisps? if heston blumenthal- notch. why would you cringe at the crisps? if heston blumenthal camej notch. why would you cringe at the i crisps? if heston blumenthal came up with that you — crisps? if heston blumenthal came up with that you would _ crisps? if heston blumenthal came up with that you would say _ crisps? if heston blumenthal came up with that you would say he _ crisps? if heston blumenthal came up with that you would say he was - crisps? if heston blumenthal came up with that you would say he was a - with that you would say he was a genius. the silence speaks volumes. i'm not sure i the silence speaks volumes. i'm not sure i would — the silence speaks volumes. i'm not sure i would this _ the silence speaks volumes. i'm not sure i would this is _ the silence speaks volumes. i'm not sure i would this is sweet _ the silence speaks volumes. i'm not sure i would this is sweet but - the silence speaks volumes. i'm not sure i would this is sweet but it - the silence speaks volumes. i'm not sure i would this is sweet but it is i sure i would this is sweet but it is an extraordinary story. this is a koala that looks like it's driving a car and this, while it did cause a five car pile—up. wasn't driving at the time. it was trying to cross a road, a six lane hwy in adelaide in the morning rush hour. it was raining about the road. the koala was found and it was rescued unhurt and then later on was pictured at the steering wheel. it was ok and everyone was ok but it caused a pile—up. fist everyone was ok but it caused a ile-u -. �* . everyone was ok but it caused a ..ile-u, �* . ,., everyone was ok but it caused a --ile-u. �* . ,. pile-up. at which stage in the day ou pile-up. at which stage in the day you choose _ pile-up. at which stage in the day you choose your _ pile-up. at which stage in the day you choose your outfit _ pile-up. at which stage in the day you choose your outfit for - pile-up. at which stage in the day you choose your outfit for the - pile-up. at which stage in the day| you choose your outfit for the next day? do you do it the night before? no docking used to be really organised and now i wake up and think, what am i going to wear?! anomaly i iron a shirt and get my tie outs, but my daughter laid it all out for me. she has done quite well, hasn't she? all themed. this could be the future. what happens if she chooses and i'm not sure if it's acceptable for tv with yellow mine are brutal and say, no! acceptable for tv with yellow mine are brutaland say, no! i'm acceptable for tv with yellow mine are brutal and say, no! i'm sure i'll get in trouble. we're been speaking this morning about those new quarantine rules for travellers — but how will they affect the tourism industry? nina's looking into this one for us this morning. businesses are, it's fair to say, already worried.— businesses are, it's fair to say, already worried. businesses are, it's fair to say, alread worried. . , ., already worried. really worried. the strict guidance _ already worried. really worried. the strict guidance at _ already worried. really worried. the strict guidance at the _ already worried. really worried. the strict guidance at the moment - already worried. really worried. the strict guidance at the moment is - already worried. really worried. the strict guidance at the moment is to l strict guidance at the moment is to stay home under almost all circumstances, travel abroad is illegal, but they are worrying about how this affects our confidence when it comes to booking later in the year. good morning, everyone. huge ramifications for the travel industry. experts say if these tough new rules stay in place, british travellers are unlikely to book a trip abroad this year. even if their destination is not currently on that red list. tourism is big business. it generates about £60 billion a yearfor the uk, and supports nearly one millonjobs. despite the furlough scheme and other support packages, around 40,000 jobs have already been lost over the last year. and the front line of the industry — the travel agents and tour operators — have seen their income disappear. they did 90% less business in the autumn than they were doing before the pandemic struck. and unlike many industries, they can't shut down because they need to manage current bookings and look ahead to future ones. the industry was one of the first to call for testing plans last year. they're not against these measures, but what they'd like to see is regular policy review so that people feel confident enough to book. they also believe the government should provide quicker, cheaper testing, and maybe vaccine certificates, to help international travel can get back on its feet. the latest measures are, you know, are another blow. now, whilst nobody's travelling right now, it does impact confidence — you know, we're an industry that has had no revenue whatsoever for 12 months. our members are still having to work because they're sorting out bookings and refunds for clients, and they've got to keep staff on furlough. but there is no specific financial support for the travel industry, for travel agents, for tour operators. so they are in a really desperate state right now and urgently need to understand what the measures are going to be from the government to offer financial support — whether that's extension of furlough, extension of some of the schemes that we've had — so they can plan for their businesses and really help support the government's ambitions to drive economic recovery through global britain. what should you do then if you are desperate to get a holiday booked? at the moment, of course, travelling for a holiday is illegal, but if you're looking to book for later in the year, then the best bet is a package holiday with that all important atol and abta protection, which would get you a full refund on cancellation. lots of companies have got flexible deals now, allowing you to change last minute — so, worth checking. if you use a credit card you'll get additional protection that way too. check any insurance you have too because most providers have limited their cancellation cover, because they say covid travel restrictions are now a "known event". i'm going to be speaking to a travel industry expert a bit later in the programme. but if you've got any questions, get in touch and i will try and put those to him as well. the main concern from the industry if they want to see this extra protection but every measure put in place then takes time to unravel and all the while our confidence... to see those headlines, threats are going to prison if you break rules, it will put people off from travelling. and also elliott we saw someone who wanted to travel abroad because a relative had died. those rules still apply. £1700 on top of a really difficult time is really hard. ~ . ~ really difficult time is really hard. ~ . ,, ., ., hard. we will talk about that throu~h hard. we will talk about that through the _ hard. we will talk about that through the programme - hard. we will talk about that through the programme and| hard. we will talk about that i through the programme and we hard. we will talk about that - through the programme and we will hard. we will talk about that _ through the programme and we will be speaking to grant shapps at 7:30am. people are being urged not to copy or share videos which claim to show preventative treatments for coronavirus. the royal college of physicians — which represents tens of thousands of doctors — say the clips can be misleading and incredibly dangerous, with some videos viewed hundreds of thousands of times. sima kotecha reports. message alert. a video message from mum on whatsapp. and today i'm going to you something very important, very imperative information which can save us all from the infection of coronavirus. the practice is very simple. you need to inhale plain steam — plain water steam. klaxon. of course, this is untrue, but his videos have been viewed hundreds of thousands of times on social media. i wanted to find out who had seen it, and where it came from. hi, mama. hi, sima! how are you? oh, fine, thank you. this video you sent me, mum, how many people do you think have seen this video? so many, i think — so many people. from speaking to dozens of people in the south asian community up and down the country, i discovered it had been seen in basingstoke, bradford, peterborough and stoke—on—trent. 12 people told me they'd even tried inhaling steam after seeing similar videos. this man in bradford told me people in his family are doing it. this isjust, you know, this is the way to get rid of it. people are worried — when they're worried they look for all sorts of cures. vaccine hesitancy is a problem among black and minority ethnic communities. there are concerns misinformation is partly to blame. we managed to track down the man behind the video. he's a chemical engineer and owns a clinic in the indian state of gujarat. i asked him why he's spreading these false messages. none of our person, including us or even doctors, have infected with coronavirus. the groups who have started this practice, they have also been safeguarded from coronavirus. but that's not true. doctors here are saying that what you are saying is a lie, and that you're putting people's lives at risk. iam saying... fine, fine, fine, fine. see, what your persons are saying and what others in research might be saying, i'm not very aware of. however well his intentions might be, doctors here aren't impressed. it is the most efficient tool — the most effective way to prevent ourselves from coronavirus. wow. it'sjust infuriating. it's actually really made me angry. these sort of individuals should be arrested for or spreading false arrested for spreading false news, giving false hope. in my opinion, i would have no time for such studies at all. i don't think this is of proven value. this will cost lives — _ as soon as social media platforms get hold of any of these messages, they should be taken off. _ whatsapp says it's made a number of changes to slow the spread of fake news, while facebook told us it's taken the post down after we alerted them to it. the government here says its spending £23 million on boosting vaccine uptake. but these messages continue to spread like wildfire. and for the experts, it's about debunking them quickly and effectively to save lives. sima kotecha, bbc news. there will be a chance to get more answers about coronavirus, vaccines and misinformation this morning at ten o'clock on the bbc news channel and the bbc asian network. they'll bejoined by england's deputy chief medical officer, jonathan van—tam. you can send in your questions using the hashtag #bbcyourquestions — or you can email yourquestions@bbc.co.uk time now to get the news, travel and weather where you are. good morning from bbc london, i'm tolu adeoye. parts of south london have become the latest places in the capital to see additional testing introduced, after a case of the south african variant of covid—19 was identified. residents in streatham, gipsy hill and west norwood are being encouraged to get a test whether they are showing symptoms or not. it comes after door—to—door testing was introduced yesterday in ealing, after the variant was discovered there. the mayor's written to the transport secretary, warning that unless he lets london have a bigger share of road tax, he may need to charge people who aren't residents here to drive into the capital. sadiq khan says tfl's income has been decimated by the pandemic yet londoners contribute around half a billion pounds each year to the treasury through vehicle excise duty, most of which he says goes towards maintaining roads elsewhere in the country. london's key workers have been right at the forefront of this pandemic, as we know, particularly those who work in the nhs. rob hasn't seen his mum for almost a year. the family hope with a successful vaccine roll—out there'll be a reunion not far off. i'll give her the biggest hug, the biggest kiss. i don't think i'd let her go for about an hour, two, maybe?! ijust think i just think about all those people who haven't seen their loved ones and are _ who haven't seen their loved ones and are working in the throes of a doll~ _ and are working in the throes of a doll~ he _ and are working in the throes of a doll~ he is — and are working in the throes of a doll. he isjust such an important part of— doll. he isjust such an important part of my— doll. he isjust such an important part of my life. i'd miss him so much — let's take a look at the travel situation now. there are minor delays on the district line because of a signal failure. if we take a look at the roads now. it's very slow on the a2 in to town through the roadworks at the danson interchange in hendon, finchley lane is closed at the a1 for repairs to a burst water main. finally, in roehampton, putney heath is closed at dover house road because of a gas leak now the weather with elizabeth rizzini. hello, good morning. feeling very cold again today. temperatures once more below freezing this morning. and there's still a met office weather warning in place for snow that's valid until midnight tonight. now there is still always the chance of some lighter snow showers feeding in, particularly towards eastern areas. because the north—easterly wind isn't as strong today, there won't be as much wind chill. those showers are not being driven quite so far across the capital. but always the chance of seeing some more snow, particularly towards the thames estuary — another couple of centimetres here as we head throughout the day. but for many of us i think it will stay dry or mostly dry, some spells of brightness or sunshine. still very chilly indeed, but temperatures for the first time in a couple of days for many of us will be above freezing, one or two celsius. now this evening and overnight, it is going to be one of the coldest nights that we have seen for quite some time. temperatures could drop as low as —7 or —8 celsius. tomorrow is looking dry, still very cold indeed. some spells of brightness, some sunshine. it will turn windier towards the end of the week. i'm back with the latest from the bbc london in half an hour. now though, it's back to louise and dan. bye for now. hello, this is breakfast with louise minchin and dan walker. coming up on breakfast this morning... tough new hotel quarantine rules in england will include hefty fines and possible jail sentences — we'll discuss how it works and what it means for travellers just after seven. we'll find out what's brought eltonjohn and michael caine together to encourage people to get the coronavirus vaccine. # i will never let you go... and she was the bbc�*s sound of 2020 — now she's topped the charts with her debut album. we'll speak to singer—songwriter celeste. it's one of the three main symptoms of coronavirus, with around two thirds of patients reporting a loss or change to your sense of smell and taste. now, emerging research suggests this could have a lasting impact long after people have recovered from the virus. breakfast�*s tim muffett has been speaking to some of those affected. it's like a blank space. you're living in a two dimensional world. you just... there is nothing. it's the most bizarre thing. they are some of covid's most mysterious symptoms. and victoria, an nhs dietician, has been hit hard. i came down with covid. i had really mild symptoms, but the main one was complete loss of smell and taste. it was awful. you know, i'm not an anxious person, but i was getting anxiety. i was, you know, "is this going to get better, is this life now?" so has your taste and smell gone completely, or has itjust changed? the brain's obviously not interpreting things as normal. so things that you expect to smell bad, smell nice. so, for example, going into public toilets is actually quite nice, which i never thought i'd ever say. but itjust smells of sweet hay. onions, garlic, coffee, all the things that are meant to smell nice and taste nice, taste revolting. like, sewage and sulphur, ammonia, rotting flesh. it's just such an important part of your life. like, so much is connected to your smell and taste. and it's one of those things, like, until you lose it yourself, you have no idea what it's like. i was tested positive for corona back in october last year. and then a month later, around novembertime, i was actually making like, a chicken pasta, and just had like a really weird taste, almost like washing up liquid. i did think, oh, the bowl has not been washed properly, or it's not been swilled out properly. but then, when i, you know, got my brother to taste it, he was like, "no, it tastes normal". anything that's got strong flavours in it, so like garlic, onion, you know, anything with really strong flavours, it'sjust... really, i can't stand to even smell or taste it at all. what impact has this add on you and your family? it's had a really, really big impact on my life in that sense, because, you know, thinking about the future and going out for food, restaurants opening back up again, it's quite worrying to think that i probably won't be able to do that, one, because of the smell, and two, because of the taste. it's very difficult to imagine the impact it has on you unless it's something you've experienced yourself. claire hopkins is an ear, nose and throat surgeon. she's been campaigning for these symptoms to be taken more seriously. have you ever seen symptoms like this before in other conditions? well, we've known about post—viral smell loss for a long time, so that in itself is nothing new. i think the high frequency of parosmia, this distorted smell and taste, is something that we've really never seen before. and in many ways this is having a greater impact and causing more distress than the initial loss. but what we now need is further support for patients who have long term loss. we need more investment into research as to how to prevent long—term loss, and how to better treat those who are still suffering. first of all you swirl a little bit, and then you smell. for some, such as federica, a sommelier, there's been a direct impact on jobs and income. i started smelling the wines and i couldn't smell anything. that seemed to have lasted for four weeks. and it was very worrying for me because i didn't know how long i was going to have this issue. and consider that, for me, my nose and my tasting buds are my tools. is it frustrating that some people don't appreciate having an impact this has had? with all due respect to people, of course they have severe symptoms of coronavirus, but for us, for people who rely on their senses for their career, theirjob, it's very important not to lose those. for most it's a question of waiting and hoping. victoria is also trying to retrain her sense of smell. we have these little jars. we have essential oils in the jars. on a daily basis you're sniffing and you're trying to be mindful as well, so trying to remember what that smell is meant to smell like. does it work? if anything, it does feel like i'm doing something to help aid recovery, because otherwise it's just... i mean, it's almost been a year for me, so it's been hard. it's difficult to keep the motivation up and believe that you will get better and this isn't what life is going to be like. that was tim muffett reporting. we can speak now to our gp, drwilliam bird. good morning. thank you forjoining us. let's talk about your patience. lots of them have suffered from this loss of smell and taste? yes. lots of them have suffered from this loss of smell and taste?— loss of smell and taste? yes, they have. particularly _ loss of smell and taste? yes, they have. particularly the _ loss of smell and taste? yes, they have. particularly the elderly. i loss of smell and taste? yes, they | have. particularly the elderly. over the age _ have. particularly the elderly. over the age of— have. particularly the elderly. over the age of 75, 80% have had a loss of smelt _ the age of 75, 80% have had a loss of smell. younger people don't get it. of smell. younger people don't get it what _ of smell. younger people don't get it. what they have found is, a lot of people — it. what they have found is, a lot of people have just said, it was the first symptom i got. i got no other symptom — first symptom i got. i got no other symptom at all. i was feeling fine and suddenly, as we heard just now, theyiust _ and suddenly, as we heard just now, theyjust lost their sense of smell. it theyjust lost their sense of smell. it was _ theyjust lost their sense of smell. it was really hustler —— horrible. some _ it was really hustler —— horrible. some of— it was really hustler —— horrible. some of them got a sense of smell of rotting _ some of them got a sense of smell of rotting flesh and horrible stuff. it came _ rotting flesh and horrible stuff. it came out — rotting flesh and horrible stuff. it came out of the blue. they don't realise _ came out of the blue. they don't realise they have got a covid and then— realise they have got a covid and then the — realise they have got a covid and then the symptoms flow later on. it then the symptoms flow later on. sounds as if then the symptoms flow later on. it sounds as if this can go on for some months for some people?— months for some people? yeah, i mean, it months for some people? yeah, i mean. it goes _ months for some people? yeah, i mean, it goes on... _ months for some people? yeah, i mean, it goes on... i _ months for some people? yeah, i mean, it goes on... i remember | months for some people? yeah, i i mean, it goes on... i remember when mean, it goes on... i rememberwhen it first— mean, it goes on... i rememberwhen it first came _ mean, it goes on... i rememberwhen it first came out of someone came to me and _ it first came out of someone came to me and said. — it first came out of someone came to me and said, i have had this for four— me and said, i have had this for four weeks. _ me and said, i have had this for fourweeks, does me and said, i have had this for four weeks, does it mean i'm still infectious? — four weeks, does it mean i'm still infectious? the answer is no. you are not— infectious? the answer is no. you are not infectious after about two weeks _ are not infectious after about two weeks. the loss of smell will go on for four— weeks. the loss of smell will go on for four weeks, weeks. the loss of smell will go on forfourweeks, does weeks. the loss of smell will go on for four weeks, does it mean i'm still infectious? the answer is no. you are _ still infectious? the answer is no. you are not— still infectious? the answer is no. you are not infectious after about two weeks — you are not infectious after about two weeks. the loss of smell will go on for. _ two weeks. the loss of smell will go on for. i_ two weeks. the loss of smell will go on for, i think, 41% is a figure that— on for, i think, 41% is a figure that came _ on for, i think, 41% is a figure that came out recently of people have _ that came out recently of people have regained it after six months. that is— have regained it after six months. that is over— have regained it after six months. that is over half still have not regained _ that is over half still have not regained it after six months. it has .ot regained it after six months. it has got better— regained it after six months. it has got better but it is not completely recovered. and it's really debilitating. everything tastes of cardboard. that was the other expression people say. it is actually— expression people say. it is actually quite a big debilitating... you have — actually quite a big debilitating... you have lost one of your senses, which _ you have lost one of your senses, which is _ you have lost one of your senses, which is really disorientating. it which is really disorientating. doesn't which is really disorientating. it doesn't sound like there is an easy fix either? ., �* . doesn't sound like there is an easy fix either? ., �* , ., ., doesn't sound like there is an easy fix either? ., �*, ., ., ., fix either? no, it's not to do with congestion. _ fix either? no, it's not to do with congestion, like _ fix either? no, it's not to do with congestion, like you _ fix either? no, it's not to do with congestion, like you get - fix either? no, it's not to do with congestion, like you get with i fix either? no, it's not to do with congestion, like you get with a l fix either? no, it's not to do with i congestion, like you get with a cold and you _ congestion, like you get with a cold and you can't spell —— smell. your breathing — and you can't spell —— smell. your breathing is — and you can't spell —— smell. your breathing is fine. but the other factory— breathing is fine. but the other factory smells —— cells, seem to be affected _ factory smells —— cells, seem to be affected by— factory smells —— cells, seem to be affected by the virus. they get knocked — affected by the virus. they get knocked out. luckily, the body can recover— knocked out. luckily, the body can recover when it gets better again. there's— recover when it gets better again. there's nothing you can do about it to get— there's nothing you can do about it to get a _ there's nothing you can do about it to get a better more quickly. goodness. lots of questions from viewers. this is from mary. she says... this is about mary. my mum has been told he is not suitable for a covid vaccination.— a covid vaccination. what are her 0 tions? a covid vaccination. what are her options? that — a covid vaccination. what are her options? that was _ a covid vaccination. what are her options? that was very _ a covid vaccination. what are her options? that was very much i a covid vaccination. what are her options? that was very much the a covid vaccination. what are her i options? that was very much the kind of feeling _ options? that was very much the kind of feeling at _ options? that was very much the kind of feeling at the beginning that for whatever— of feeling at the beginning that for whatever reason you weren't able to have a _ whatever reason you weren't able to have a vaccination that my gravity that has _ have a vaccination that my gravity that has changed. they were giving people _ that has changed. they were giving people vaccinations. if you have any allergy— people vaccinations. if you have any allergy to _ people vaccinations. if you have any allergy to constituencies of the vaccine — allergy to constituencies of the vaccine, you are not able to do it. if vaccine, you are not able to do it. if the _ vaccine, you are not able to do it. ifthe epipen— vaccine, you are not able to do it. if the epipen pennies for other things. — if the epipen pennies for other things, you should be ok. the constituents of the virus are verym _ constituents of the virus are very... there is a protein which is quite _ very... there is a protein which is quite rare — very... there is a protein which is quite rare and— very... there is a protein which is quite rare and you can't have the vaccine — quite rare and you can't have the vaccine a — quite rare and you can't have the vaccine. a pretty much everyone else can. vaccine. a pretty much everyone else can you _ vaccine. a pretty much everyone else can. you should be ok now. this from james. i can. you should be ok now. this from james- i am — can. you should be ok now. this from james. i am over _ can. you should be ok now. this from james. i am over 70 _ can. you should be ok now. this from james. i am over 70 and _ can. you should be ok now. this from james. i am over 70 and i _ can. you should be ok now. this from james. i am over 70 and i don't - can. you should be ok now. this from james. i am over 70 and i don't have l james. i am over 70 and i don't have a smartphone. i dip will i be notified about getting the vaccine? i wanted to ask you as well, over 70s have been told to get in contact as well with their gp if they had not had the vaccine.— as well with their gp if they had not had the vaccine. what is the rocess? not had the vaccine. what is the process? well, _ not had the vaccine. what is the process? well, the _ not had the vaccine. what is the process? well, the gp, - not had the vaccine. what is the l process? well, the gp, hopefully, will be _ process? well, the gp, hopefully, will be on — process? well, the gp, hopefully, will be on the way to getting through— will be on the way to getting through everyone. it is a big number of people _ through everyone. it is a big number of people to — through everyone. it is a big number of people to get through. there are some _ of people to get through. there are some problems with communication with some _ some problems with communication with some people. so, you know, my dad is _ with some people. so, you know, my dad is in _ with some people. so, you know, my dad is in his— with some people. so, you know, my dad is in his 90s now, but his mobile — dad is in his 90s now, but his mobile phone is never switched on. impossible — mobile phone is never switched on. impossible to get hold. a lot of people — impossible to get hold. a lot of people have a mobile phone but don't know how— people have a mobile phone but don't know how to use a text because they are partially— know how to use a text because they are partially sighted or they may not be _ are partially sighted or they may not be able to use it. what we recommend is that, hopefully, most ofthe _ recommend is that, hopefully, most of the patients in the preceding few months. _ of the patients in the preceding few months, gps will have been in contact — months, gps will have been in contact to— months, gps will have been in contact to say, have we got the right _ contact to say, have we got the right contact details, is everything 0k? the _ right contact details, is everything 0k? the landline is for people if they are — 0k? the landline is for people if they are going to be found. you will be found _ they are going to be found. you will be found if— they are going to be found. you will be found if you haven't got a mobile phone _ be found if you haven't got a mobile phone one — be found if you haven't got a mobile phone. one of the easiest ways to help the _ phone. one of the easiest ways to help the practices to give a mobile number— help the practices to give a mobile number and, help the practices to give a mobile numberand, with help the practices to give a mobile number and, with permission, help the practices to give a mobile numberand, with permission, your next-of-kin — numberand, with permission, your next—of—kin will be numberand, with permission, your next—of— kin will be able to take text messages. they take less time. it is text messages. they take less time. it is better— text messages. they take less time. it is better to do it by text message. if you have somebody with a mobile _ message. if you have somebody with a mobile phone. if not, your landline, you should — mobile phone. if not, your landline, you should hopefully have corresponded with your gp to get that sorted out before hand. and if you haven't, it would be really worthwhile to make sure you have got some _ worthwhile to make sure you have got some way— worthwhile to make sure you have got some way of— worthwhile to make sure you have got some way of making contact. there are patients — some way of making contact. there are patients still who are finding it -- _ are patients still who are finding it -- we — are patients still who are finding it -- we are _ are patients still who are finding it —— we are finding it real trouble to get— it —— we are finding it real trouble to get hold — it —— we are finding it real trouble to get hold of because i haven't got a landline — to get hold of because i haven't got a landline, mobile phone, often language— a landline, mobile phone, often language barriers as well. that communication is important. stephen sa s, wh communication is important. stephen says. why is — communication is important. stephen says. why is there _ communication is important. stephen says, why is there a _ communication is important. stephen says, why is there a waiting _ communication is important. stephen says, why is there a waiting period i says, why is there a waiting period after having covid before you are allowed to have the vaccine? yes. after having covid before you are allowed to have the vaccine? yes, i mean, allowed to have the vaccine? yes, i mean. one — allowed to have the vaccine? yes, i mean. one of— allowed to have the vaccine? yes, i mean, one of the _ allowed to have the vaccine? yes, i mean, one of the good _ allowed to have the vaccine? yes, i mean, one of the good things i allowed to have the vaccine? yes, i mean, one of the good things it i allowed to have the vaccine? yes, i mean, one of the good things it if. mean, one of the good things it if you have — mean, one of the good things it if you have had the virus and then you have _ you have had the virus and then you have the _ you have had the virus and then you have the vaccine later on, he's got enormous — have the vaccine later on, he's got enormous immunity, almost ten times more _ enormous immunity, almost ten times more than _ enormous immunity, almost ten times more than someone who hasn't had the virus _ more than someone who hasn't had the virus you _ more than someone who hasn't had the virus. you really are supercharged with antibodies. the reason why you have to _ with antibodies. the reason why you have to have — with antibodies. the reason why you have to have that gap is because the immune _ have to have that gap is because the immune system is really responding to the _ immune system is really responding to the virus— immune system is really responding to the virus at the current time. and _ to the virus at the current time. and if— to the virus at the current time. and if you — to the virus at the current time. and if you just give the vaccine at the same — and if you just give the vaccine at the same time, it gets lost in the warfare _ the same time, it gets lost in the warfare that is going on in your body— warfare that is going on in your body already. so what you are doing is you _ body already. so what you are doing is you are _ body already. so what you are doing is you are waiting for that to calm down, _ is you are waiting for that to calm down, for— is you are waiting for that to calm down, for the immune response to calm _ down, for the immune response to calm down, — down, for the immune response to calm down, and when you get it again it will— calm down, and when you get it again it will still— calm down, and when you get it again it will still get up again and you will get — it will still get up again and you will get this longer term t cell response, which is what you are looking — response, which is what you are looking for~ _ response, which is what you are looking for. don't be despondent. have _ looking for. don't be despondent. have the — looking for. don't be despondent. have the vaccine, even if you have had to _ have the vaccine, even if you have had to run — have the vaccine, even if you have had to run a — have the vaccine, even if you have had to run a virus. you will have supercharged immunity after that. i love supercharged immunity after that. love the supercharged immunity after that. i love the idea of being supercharged. thank you very much as ever. thanks ve much thank you very much as ever. thanks very much indeed. _ thank you very much as ever. thanks very much indeed. thank _ thank you very much as ever. thanks very much indeed. thank you. - thank you very much as ever. thanks very much indeed. thank you. i i thank you very much as ever. thanks very much indeed. thank you. i feel. very much indeed. thank you. i feel supercharged _ very much indeed. thank you. i feel supercharged this _ very much indeed. thank you. i feel supercharged this morning. - very much indeed. thank you. i feel supercharged this morning. so i very much indeed. thank you. i feeli supercharged this morning. so does carol. supercharged this morning. so does carol- maybe _ supercharged this morning. so does carol. maybe it's _ supercharged this morning. so does carol. maybe it's the _ supercharged this morning. so does carol. maybe it's the low _ carol. maybe it's the low temperatures. _ carol. maybe it's the low temperatures. she i carol. maybe it's the low temperatures. she is i carol. maybe it's the [owl temperatures. she is very carol. maybe it's the low - temperatures. she is very excited about them. temperatures. she is very excited about them-— temperatures. she is very excited aboutthem. , , , . ., about them. sally, you supercharged? alwa s. about them. sally, you supercharged? always- why — about them. sally, you supercharged? always- why are _ about them. sally, you supercharged? always. why are you _ about them. sally, you supercharged? always. why are you supercharged? . always. why are you supercharged? i'm in the zone this week. no sleep on sunday night. i'm doing much of the day to night. this is the way to role. ~ . the day to night. this is the way to role. ~ , ., , ., ., role. ok. we will see how you roll later on, role. ok. we will see how you roll later on. will— role. ok. we will see how you roll later on, will be?! _ role. ok. we will see how you roll later on, will be?! manchester i later on, will be?! manchester united weren't quite supercharged but they got there in the end. manchester united are through to the fa cup quarter—finals for the seventh year in a row. scott mctominay�*s goal in extra time took them past west ham, while bournemouth upset premier league burnley. katie gornall was watching the action. david moyes endured rather than enjoyed his eight—month spell at old trafford. now in charge of an in—form west ham side, he returned with the chance to prove a point. manchester united are the league's top scorers, but the fingertips of fabianski were enough to keep them out early on. unbelievable, how he gets across there. injuries proving west ham's biggest worry. this clash of heads saw issa diop fail to emerge for the second half, making ryan fredericks english football's first concussion substitute. this game wasn't easy to watch, and there was plenty to watch. into extra time it went, and for united, timing is everything. right place, right time. mctominay�*s breakthrough enough to put united through for a record seventh year in a row. they got there in the end. bournemouth had jonathan woodgate in the dugout for the trip to premier league burnley, after sacking their manager last week. and the ex—england defender will have enjoyed what he saw, as his side carved them open. sam surridge perfectly placed. that kind of precision was lacking from burnley in the second half, one to forget forjose rodriguez. they searched for answers, but it would get worse as bournemouth sent them spinning late on. and up stepped junior stanislas to put the championship side into the quarter—finals. their caretaker is so far proving a safe pair of hands. katie gornall, bbc news. world number one novak djokovic has a battle on his hands in the second round of the australian open. it's a really tight match and djokovic lost the second set to the american frances tiafoe, and the third set has gone to a tie—break. now that is clearly not the tenants. i will tell you about djokovic in a minute. manchester united women's manager casey stoney says she's disgusted by the online racist abuse the teenage player laurenjames has been subjected to. it's the latest of a string of attacks — james' brother reece, who plays for chelsea, has also been targetted. stoney says it's awful to hear a player say its something theyjust have to ignore. it's disgusting, it's utterly disgusting. i think the government and the powers that be need to do so much more to govern these social media platforms. it's gut wrenching for me that she has to face that and thinks it's normal. ijust cannot... ..i cannot get my head around it. i will tell you about djokovic now. world number one novak djokovic has a battle on his hands in the second round of the australian open. it's a really tight match and djokovic lost the second set to the american frances tiafoe, and the third set has gone to a tie—break. he hasjust won he has just won that. the american keeping him on his toes. but venus williams is struggling on court against sara errani. she twisted her ankle on the way to losing the first set by 6—1. she has heavy strapping on her opposite knee. it looked at one stage as if she would have to retire but she is still going. she hasn't won another game since. andy murray is, of course, missing the australian open, but he did make a winning return to the court yesterday. he beat germany's maxmillian marterer in three sets on the challenger tour in italy. it was his first match in four months. now, there could be some changes coming to formula one, in an attempt to raise excitement levels in the sport. bosses are thinking of scrapping the saturday qualifying session, and deciding grid positions with a sprint race of about a third of the length of a grand prix. the idea could be trialled this season and introduced next year. britain's laura muir has set a new british indoor record over 1500 metres, at the world indoor tour meeting in lievin in france. but it was only good enough for second place — it took a world record to beat her, gudaf tsegay from ethiopia setting the new mark. and the hollywood takeover is official. a—list movie star ryan reynolds, and fellow actor rob mcelhenney, have taken 100% control of wrexham. their vision was released in the form of a mission statement, part of it being to always beat their great rivals chester. and in true welsh spirit, the pair have changed their twitter names in line with the town. see what he has done there? we look forward to them coming to chester. yeah, it's going to happen. they've done everything right so far, haven't they? absolutely. they have engaged the fans. the fans have embraced the idea. so good. i think we might get to meet a film quite soon. come on, let's do it. who will get that then? that'll be you! here's carol with a look at this morning's weather. you are talking about carol being very chipper this morning. maybe it is to do with record temperatures. what are we looking out for? well. what are we looking out for? well, the record all-time _ what are we looking out for? well, the record all-time low _ what are we looking out for? well, the record all-time low in - what are we looking out for? well, the record all-time low in the i what are we looking out for? -ii the record all—time low in the uk is minus 27.2 celsius. that is pretty cold. that was in altnaharra and braemar. it was in altnaharra on the 30th of december, 1995. already in altnaharra the temperature this morning has fallen to —17.1. that is still pretty cold. altnaharra is in the highlands. based in sutherland. a small village with a small population. it does hold that record along with braemar. the cold weather is set to continue as we head onto the next few days. on sunday there is a slight hint we could see something a bit milder coming in from the west. we will get onto that in a jiffy. but what we have this morning is a lot of showers. snow showers. particularly this morning across the central lowlands, south—west scotland, north—east england, another line in the south—east. some will ease during the day but they are forming lines. not all of us will see the showers. with lighter winds they may not be as frequent across central areas as they were yesterday. we will still see a few. including northern ireland. in between there will be some weak winter sunshine. these are our temperatures, some weak winter sunshine. these are ourtemperatures, —1 in some weak winter sunshine. these are our temperatures, —1 in aberdeen, to plus two in cardiff and plymouth. this evening and overnight they will be some wintry showers to be had in the northern isles. again for central scotland, north—east england coming to the south—east as well. look at the spacing on the spacing on those i suppose. that means there is not going to be much of the way of winter. and look at the blues in the chart. it is going to be cold. we could see some snow showers into cornwall, for example. the far west. to give an idea of how cold it is going to be, these are the overnight temperatures. temperatures first night —— were mike ling in the morning across the towns and cities. -12 morning across the towns and cities. —12 in aberdeen. again we could see -17 —12 in aberdeen. again we could see —17 in parts of the highlands and grampian. if the temperature in kew gardens. —9, that will be the first time we have seen that in a decade. it gives you an indication of how cold it is going to be. and i see start tomorrow. frosty for some. a lot of dry weather. still one or two showers in the northern isles, some of them in eastern areas. as we go through the course of the day we are looking at cloud thickening towards the west. my earpiece is falling out! we are also looking out for sleet and snow followed by some rain. in the west, not quite as cold. highs of three degrees. putting further east, we are looking at freezing to —2. then into friday, we have got this battle between cold air and the mild air. it looks like the mild airwillwin air and the mild air. it looks like the mild air will win in parts of the mild air will win in parts of the west. come on, the mild air! thank you, carol. they're some of the most stunning images of nature from the last year. today, the natural history museum has announced its winners from the wildlife photographer of the year awards. 19,000 pictures were submitted, and a shortlist of 25 images went to the public vote for the people's choice awards. andy parkinson from derbyshire was one of the final five highly commended photographers in this year's competition, and hejoins us now. morning to you, andy. good morning. i think we morning to you, andy. good morning. i think we can — morning to you, andy. good morning. i think we can show _ morning to you, andy. good morning. i think we can show the _ morning to you, andy. good morning. i think we can show the picture - morning to you, andy. good morning. i think we can show the picture that i i think we can show the picture that you talk which made the shortlist. tell us about the photo? congratulations, by the way. thanks very much — congratulations, by the way. thanks very much. it is a hair that i rather— very much. it is a hair that i rather bizarrely have known for about — rather bizarrely have known for about four _ rather bizarrely have known for about four years. i go up to scotland _ about four years. i go up to scotland every year for about four to five _ scotland every year for about four to five weeks to photograph, to spend _ to five weeks to photograph, to spend a — to five weeks to photograph, to spend a significant amount of time photographing this highly threatened species. _ photographing this highly threatened species, one of our true native icons — species, one of our true native icons and _ species, one of our true native icons. and this imagery represented at the _ icons. and this imagery represented at the sort _ icons. and this imagery represented at the sort of perfect conditions i look for— at the sort of perfect conditions i look for the entire five weeks. we only had _ look for the entire five weeks. we only had maybe one or two days when the weather _ only had maybe one or two days when the weather was perfect, when we had hi-h the weather was perfect, when we had high winds _ the weather was perfect, when we had high winds. a fresh dumping of snow and incredibly cold temperatures. that is _ and incredibly cold temperatures. that is what creates the compelling conditions — that is what creates the compelling conditions you see forming the backdrop _ conditions you see forming the backdrop. it�*s conditions you see forming the backdro -. �* . . . . conditions you see forming the backdro-. �* , . ., , ., conditions you see forming the backdro-. �*, . ., , ., backdrop. it's amazing 'ust to look at. there is — backdrop. it's amazing 'ust to look at. there is so i backdrop. it's amazing 'ust to look at. there is so much i backdrop. it's amazing just to look at. there is so much going - backdrop. it's amazing just to look at. there is so much going on. it l backdrop. it's amazing just to look| at. there is so much going on. it is called hairball. you have got the eyes open, a crack in the back, a perfect ball shape. were you waiting a long time for that? was it there for a while, was it a split—second moment? i for a while, was it a split-second moment? . . , for a while, was it a split-second moment?— for a while, was it a split-second moment? . , , ., ., moment? i was lying next to it for about five to _ moment? i was lying next to it for about five to six _ moment? i was lying next to it for about five to six hours _ moment? i was lying next to it for about five to six hours that - moment? i was lying next to it for about five to six hours that day. iti about five to six hours that day. it is quite _ about five to six hours that day. it is quite attritional, wildlife photography. it is not a job that suits _ photography. it is not a job that suits everybody. and you kind of feel a _ suits everybody. and you kind of feel a little bit ridiculous because as you _ feel a little bit ridiculous because as you are — feel a little bit ridiculous because as you are lying there next to this hair in _ as you are lying there next to this hair in this— as you are lying there next to this hair in this remote wilderness, it is incredibly beautiful but you are cradling — is incredibly beautiful but you are cradling a — is incredibly beautiful but you are cradling a camera, a metal camera, that sucks _ cradling a camera, a metal camera, that sucks all the heat out of your hands _ that sucks all the heat out of your hands so — that sucks all the heat out of your hands. so to keep warm you are lying in the _ hands. so to keep warm you are lying in the snow— hands. so to keep warm you are lying in the snow next to it, doing press ups intermittently, waiting for it every _ ups intermittently, waiting for it every 30 — ups intermittently, waiting for it every 30 to 45 minutes to set up and do something. the rest of the time it is conserving energy. you have .ot it is conserving energy. you have got this— it is conserving energy. you have got this beautiful animal next to you and — got this beautiful animal next to you and this stray photographer doing _ you and this stray photographer doing press ups in the snow, it must look a _ doing press ups in the snow, it must look a bit _ doing press ups in the snow, it must look a bit ridiculous. i doing press ups in the snow, it must look a bit ridiculous.— look a bit ridiculous. i want to see a icture look a bit ridiculous. i want to see a picture of _ look a bit ridiculous. i want to see a picture of that! _ look a bit ridiculous. i want to see a picture of that! that _ look a bit ridiculous. i want to see a picture of that! that would i look a bit ridiculous. i want to see a picture of that! that would be i a picture of that! that would be brilliant. ., ., , �* , brilliant. that doesn't exist. thankfully _ brilliant. that doesn't exist. thankfully for _ brilliant. that doesn't exist. thankfully for you. - brilliant. that doesn't exist. thankfully for you. we i brilliant. that doesn't exist. thankfully for you. we have i brilliant. that doesn't exist. i thankfully for you. we have got brilliant. that doesn't exist. - thankfully for you. we have got the photograph that won the award of this year, which is taken by the son of the conservationist steve irwin, robert irwin. this is a drawn image of bushfires in northern australia. this got 55,000 votes. it has won the annual competition. there are some striking images. it is things we rememberfrom last year and how they are portrayed by those with a camera? . , , , camera? yeah, the bushfires in australia was _ camera? yeah, the bushfires in australia was undoubtedly i camera? yeah, the bushfires in australia was undoubtedly one | camera? yeah, the bushfires in i australia was undoubtedly one of the most compelling and harrowing environmental stories that came to li-ht environmental stories that came to light last _ environmental stories that came to light last year. i mean, some of the footage _ light last year. i mean, some of the footage was— light last year. i mean, some of the footage was actually quite traumatising to watch. i think it's important — traumatising to watch. i think it's important with competitions like this, _ important with competitions like this, that — important with competitions like this, that have got this global reach, — this, that have got this global reach, that they highlight these critically— reach, that they highlight these critically important environmental issues _ critically important environmental issues that will affect generation two and — issues that will affect generation two and all of us going forward. it was a _ two and all of us going forward. it was a very— two and all of us going forward. it was a very important winner. we have not some was a very important winner. we have got some of— was a very important winner. we have got some of the _ was a very important winner. we have got some of the other _ was a very important winner. we have got some of the other pictures - was a very important winner. we have got some of the other pictures on i got some of the other pictures on the shortlist. i love that one with the shortlist. i love that one with the owls on the, what's it called? not a stomp, a branch. are you going back to the highlands for your next photograph when you can? i’m back to the highlands for your next photograph when you can?- photograph when you can? i'm 'ust waitin: for photograph when you can? i'm 'ust waiting fora — photograph when you can? i'm 'ust waiting for a long i photograph when you can? i'm 'ust waiting for a long time i photograph when you can? i'm 'ust waiting for a long time to i photograph when you can? i'm just waiting for a long time to finish, i waiting for a long time to finish, really _ waiting for a long time to finish, really at — waiting for a long time to finish, really. at the moment i'm working within— really. at the moment i'm working within a _ really. at the moment i'm working within a couple of miles of my home in derbyshire. i am waiting for some swans _ in derbyshire. i am waiting for some swans to— in derbyshire. i am waiting for some swans to kick off. i am waiting for the same — swans to kick off. i am waiting for the same wintry conditions. obviously in derbyshire it happens less than— obviously in derbyshire it happens less than it does in the scottish mountains. i less than it does in the scottish mountains. lam less than it does in the scottish mountains. i am working very locally at the _ mountains. i am working very locally at the moment. the good thing about myiob _ at the moment. the good thing about myiob is _ at the moment. the good thing about myiob is im — at the moment. the good thing about myjob is i'm always social distancing. i'm always social distancing. i'm always social distancing because it is the nature of my— distancing because it is the nature of myjob — distancing because it is the nature of myjob to sit at a height somewhere on my own. we of my job to sit at a height somewhere on my own. we really appreciate — somewhere on my own. we really appreciate you — somewhere on my own. we really appreciate you talking _ somewhere on my own. we really appreciate you talking to - somewhere on my own. we really appreciate you talking to us i somewhere on my own. we really appreciate you talking to us this l appreciate you talking to us this morning. the next time any of our viewers are in the highlands and they see someone wrapped up doing press ups, they will know it is you. congratulations.— the recent cold weather has meant that, for most of us, our lockdown activities have been largely indoors. but for so—called bareskin runners, the chilly temperatures are exactly it involves exposing the body to the cold while running or walking and, like cold water swimming, is said to have health benefits. the man behind it all is 61—year—old dutch adventurer wim hof. let's take a look at him and a few others in action. this is the iceman, wim hof. the 61—year—old dutch extreme athlete completes freezing feats and has earned himself an army of followers. he holds the record for a barefoot half marathon on ice and snow. but it's notjust wim that's been embracing the cold recently. jamie murray, joe wicks and reverend kate botley have also been daring the icy cold temperatures this winter, including taking an ice bath, or even making snow angels. and if you don't have your own ice bath, then some, like ben fogle, are taken taking to bareskin running, and exposing their skin to the colder while running or exercising. this is what i do. i like to get out into the cold as much as i can. it is important that bareskin exercises build up resistance to the cold in the same way that outdoor swimmers would. there is a risk of hypothermia and frostbite if too much is done too soon. and doctors say you should also approach with caution if you have a heart condition. it's just extraordinary, it'sjust extraordinary, isn't it's just extraordinary, isn't it? it'sjust extraordinary, isn't it? i do like to be won. it shocks the body. i do like to be won. it shocks the bod . ., ., ., we'll be speaking to wim and ben a little bit later. have you been embracing the cold weather out on your run recently? the other day i had to stop and just what somebody walking through the snow in their shorts, which i think is admirable. share snow in their shorts, which i think is admirable.— is admirable. are you going for another one — is admirable. are you going for another one of _ is admirable. are you going for another one of your _ is admirable. are you going for another one of your wild - is admirable. are you going for another one of your wild water| another one of your wild water swims? i another one of your wild water swims? ., another one of your wild water swims? . ., ., , , swims? i am going to be swimming toda but swims? i am going to be swimming today but definitely _ swims? i am going to be swimming today but definitely wearing - swims? i am going to be swimming today but definitely wearing a i swims? i am going to be swimming today but definitely wearing a wet l today but definitely wearing a wet suit. we will be speaking to them later. tell us what you've been up to. if so, send your pictures to bbcbreakfast@bbc.co.uk or tweet them using the hashtag bbc breakfast. we will speak to a doctor about why it might be good for you and notes of caution. time now to get the news, travel and weather where you are. good morning from bbc london, i'm tolu adeoye. parts of south london have become the latest places in the capital to see additional testing after a case of the south african variant of covid—19 was identified. residents in streatham, gispsy hill and west norwood are being encouraged to get a test whether they are showing symptoms or not. it comes after door—to—door testing was introduced yesterday in ealing after the variant was discovered there. the mayor's written to the transport secretary, warning that unless he lets london have a bigger share of road tax, he may need to charge people who aren't residents here to drive into the capital. sadiq khan says tfl's income has been decimated by the pandemic yet londoners contribute around half a billion pounds each year to the treasury through vehicle excise duty. the mayor says most of that goes towards maintaining roads elsewhere in the country. london's key workers have been at the forefront of this pandemic, as we know — particularly those who work in the nhs. rob, who's a doctor, hasn't seen his mum for almost a year. the family hope with a successful vaccine roll out there'll be a reunion not far off. i'll give her the biggest hug, the biggest kiss. i don't think i'd let her go for about an hour, two, maybe?! i just think about all those people who haven't seen their loved ones and are working in the throes of it all. he isjust such an important part of my life. i miss him so much. let's take a look at the travel situation now. all good on the tubes apart from that ongoing closure of the waterloo & city line. if we take a look at the roads now — it's very slow on the a2 near bexleyheath into town through the roadworks at the danson interchange. now the weather with elizabeth rizzini. hello, good morning. feeling very cold again today. temperatures once more below freezing this morning. and there's still a met office weather warning in place for snow that's valid until midnight tonight. now there is still always the chance of some lighter snow showers feeding in, particularly towards eastern areas. because the north—easterly wind isn't as strong today, there won't be as much wind chill. those showers are not being driven quite so far across the capital. but always the chance of seeing some more snow, particularly towards the thames estuary — another couple of centimetres here as we head throughout the day. but for many of us i think it will stay dry or mostly dry, some spells of brightness or sunshine. still very chilly indeed, but temperatures for the first time in a couple of days for many of us will be above freezing, one or two celsius. now this evening and overnight, it is going to be one of the coldest nights that we have seen for quite some time. temperatures could drop as low as —7 or —8 celsius. tomorrow is looking dry, still very cold indeed. some spells of brightness, some sunshine. it will turn windier towards the end of the week. i'm back with the latest from the bbc london in half an hour. now, though, it's back to louise and dan. bye for now. good morning, welcome to breakfast with dan walker and louise minchin our headlines today: hundreds of thousands of people living in buildings deemed unsafe since the grenfell tower disaster will find out today how the government plans to help them. there will be more bankruptcies, there will be more people losing their homes like i did. this is going to be such a disaster if we don't get the full help that this situation calls for. £10,000 fines and 10—year prison sentences — the penalties for breaking travel restrictions. what was that, elton? that was me, acting. and we'll hear about eltonjohn's new role — encouraging people to get their covid vaccination. it's official — wrexham football club is now under hollywood control. ryan reynolds and rob mcelhenney complete their takeover, with a £2 million investment and the promise to always beat great rivals chester. i believe you have a filter turned on in the video settings. the texas lawyer trapped by a cat filter on his zoom call — who had to inform a judge that he's not a feline. good morning. we havejust had the coldest night of this winter so far, the temperature falling to —17.1 celsius in altnaharra. michael stipe everywhere, at risk of eyes on untreated surfaces, furthering the macro further wintry showers. all the details later in the programme. it's wednesday, the 10th of february. our top story. hundreds of thousands of people living in buildings deemed unsafe since the grenfell disaster will find out today how the government plans to help them. housing secretary robertjenrick is expected to announce new support measures in the commons later. our political correspondent jonathan blake reports. piece by piece, flammable cladding is removed from high—rise blocks across the uk — but figures show this work has been completed on fewer than half the buildings deemed unsafe, and home owners in the flats affected are living with the consequences. higher insurance costs, an inability to sell their homes, and bills for other fire safety measures have left many thousands worse off. there will be more bankruptcies. there will be more people losing their homes like i did. this is going to be such a disaster if we don't get the full help that this situation calls for. it's three and a half years since 72 people died in the fire at grenfell tower in london, where cladding on the outside of the building caused flames to spread. the government has allocated £1.6 billion to pay for similar dangerous cladding to be removed from buildings. but a committee of mps warned the true cost of all necessary work after grenfell could run to £15 billion. labour have said it's shameful that people are still trapped in unsafe homes, and have called on the government to provide up—front funding. conservative mps are among those putting pressure on the government to go much further than it has so far to address a growing crisis. jonathan blake, bbc news. passengers who break strict new quarantine rules could face fines of £10,000 and up to ten years in prison. under the new measures, travellers arriving into england from 33 red—list countries will need to pay almost £1,800 to quarantine at a special hotel. in scotland, the rules apply to all passengers arriving from oversees. charlotte wright reports. while holidays like this are illegal under the uk's lockdown rules, essentialjourneys are still happening. liz had to travel to portugal when herfather died. and under the strict rules coming into force on monday, she'll now need to spend ten days in a quarantine hotel at a cost of £1,750 when she returns home. it's extortionate. i think it would be really, really depressing on top of being quite miserable anyway. we're coming back not from a nice holiday, but from, you know, grieving for either a lost one or ill families, etc. so i think this needs to be considered in how they treat people. under the new measures, all passengers will have to self—isolate for ten days, and be tested on day two and day eight. in england, those arriving from the 33 countries on the government's red list will need to quarantine in a hotel at their own cost. and if people violate the rules, they could face large fines and potentially up to ten years in prison. scotland has gone one step further, and confirmed anyone returning from abroad will have to enter a quarantine hotel. the idea is to try to stop variants from overseas getting a foothold in the uk. but the airline industry is concerned the more restrictions are added, the longer they'll take to remove. the worry is that this is in place for several months over the summer season into the autumn. we desperately need there to be a review period included into this measure so that we can look at the implementation and the effectiveness and — once it is safe to do so — opening up the sector. the health secretary says the travel rules in england will be relaxed as soon as it's safe to do so. charlotte wright, bbc news. later we will be speaking to the transport secretary grant shapps. so much detail to get. let's get more on those new travel rules from our chief political correspondent, adam fleming, who joins us from westminster. took us three does make a lot of changes, what is the reaction been? people were surprised yesterday when matt hancock and ounces. £1750, the amount you will have to pay per person for the airport quarantining for if you come back from one of these red list of countries, which is higher than people had expected. the second figure thatjumped out ten years, the maximum prison sentence that someone could face if they are caught lying about where they are caught lying about where they have come from and evade the quarantine. some conservative mps are saying that is a bit out of proportion and worse than some crimes that we would consider to be much worse than lying about where you have been travelling. having said that, though, i think these measures will be introduced without a vote or a debate in parliament, so the critics of this policy, i think, are probably going to focus their attention on how it is unwound. when he start lifting these measures and what impact does it have on summer holidays with yellow something interesting to ask grant shapps about. last night on the newscast podcast we were interviewing the boss of iata, who say they have been negotiating with the british government and others about an app they are developing with the airlines where you would upload your vaccination status to allow you to get onto a flight, that could be as soon as april. the government says they don't want to introduce any kind of vaccine passport at home in the uk because that would be discriminatory against people who haven't had it or didn't want to get it, but they have kept the door open to it being something we might have to it being something we might have to use for travel once we can start travelling abroad again. liferi; travelling abroad again. very interesting. _ travelling abroad again. very interesting, so _ travelling abroad again. very interesting, so much - travelling abroad again. very interesting, so much to i travelling abroad again. very interesting, so much to talk to grant shapps about, including that. thank you. the transport secretary will be here live on the programme just after 7:30am. senators in the united states have voted to continue donald trump's impeachment trial, after he was accused of inciting the mob which stormed the capitol building last month. the former president's lawyers argued the process was unconstitutional, because he was no longer in office. but six republicansjoined democrats in voting to carry on. if convicted mr trump could be barred from holding office again. covid restrictions have made this year much tougher for young people dealing with a cancer diagnosis, according to two leading charities. the teenage cancer trust and clic sargent have written a letter to ministers in the uk's four nations to highlight the issue. they say too many young people are having to go alone to hospital checkups and treatment. the nhs say the rules are "absolutely clear" and support should be available as long as it's covid—safe. the queen's grand—daughter, princess eugenie, has given birth to herfirst child — a boy. princess eugenie posted a picture on instagram following his arrival. have a little look. classic mother and baby shot. the baby, whose name has not yet been announced, is the queen's ninth great—grandchild and eleventh in line to the throne. in a statement the palace said the queen and eugenie�*s parents, the duke and duchess of york, were "delighted". time for the best story ever. i have upgraded it from the best story of the year to the best story ever. it is about her. we need it because we have been struggling with video calls at some stage. whatever your feelings are... they're probably not as good as this one... a virtual court hearing in the us state of texas where the lawyer accidentally appeared on screen as a wide—eyed, fluffy kitten. mark lobel reports. meet the 69—year—old texan attorney who unintentionally addressed this virtual courtroom, as a cat. mr ponton, i believe you have a filter turned on in the video settings. you might want to... uhh! we're trying to... we're trying... can you hear me, judge? i can hearyou, i think it's a filter. it is, and i don't know how to remove it. i've got my assistant here, she's trying to, but... 0h. i'm prepared to go forward with it. i'm here live, it's not — i'm not a cat. ican... ..i can see that. courts attorney rob ponton pleaded his case of mistaken identity minutes after he logged on from his secretary's computer to defend the state of texas in a civil forfeiture case. everybody's face popped up except mine. mine was a cat. 0h. she had it there, the child had it there. she don't know and i don't know. it just... it just miraculously appeared. after that, the verdict of the judge was to release this normally secretive footage, now seen by millions. i'm here live, i'm not a cat. this latest internet star — who also appears on netflix representing possibly the biggest criminaljustice hoaxer in history — is not the type to let the cat out of the bag. but... you can't put toothpaste back in the tube. you know? if it's got out and it's gone viral, let you go! and that's "fur real"! mark lobel, bbc news. i was wondering what sort of cats based upon would be in there, but thatis based upon would be in there, but that is a shocker. cat based upon would be in there, but that is a shocker.— that is a shocker. cat looks distressed _ that is a shocker. cat looks distressed by _ that is a shocker. cat looks distressed by its _ that is a shocker. cat looks i distressed by its appearance, that is a shocker. cat looks - distressed by its appearance, as well. believe that they release that, love it. one of the reasons is because one of the people involved in it said that it shows, despite the current circumstances, we are trying to maintain the justice system and keep it going. hopefully it has put a smile on your face. system and keep it going. hopefully it has put a smile on yourface. i’m it has put a smile on your face. i'm auoin to it has put a smile on your face. i'm going to watch it again. carol easier to look at the weather, which is pretty much causing problems. indeed. good morning. we havejust had the _ indeed. good morning. we havejust had the coldest night of this winter so far_ had the coldest night of this winter so far in_ had the coldest night of this winter so far in altnaharra. minus 17.1 celsius— so far in altnaharra. minus 17.1 celsius 6am. it will be a cold day generally, — celsius 6am. it will be a cold day generally, the risk of ice first thing — generally, the risk of ice first thing and _ generally, the risk of ice first thing and for the rest of the week it will_ thing and for the rest of the week it will stay— thing and for the rest of the week it will stay cold, although at the moment— it will stay cold, although at the moment it looks like some day we might— moment it looks like some day we might see — moment it looks like some day we might see something a bit less cold coming _ might see something a bit less cold coming in _ might see something a bit less cold coming in from the west. once again, wintry— coming in from the west. once again, wintry showers across the central loans, _ wintry showers across the central loans, no — wintry showers across the central loans, no england, south—east england— loans, no england, south—east england and a few elsewhere. some easing _ england and a few elsewhere. some easing as _ england and a few elsewhere. some easing as we go through the afternoon but some forming lines, rather_ afternoon but some forming lines, rather like — afternoon but some forming lines, rather like they have done in the last few— rather like they have done in the last few days. if you see them they could _ last few days. if you see them they could be _ last few days. if you see them they could be persistent, but a lot will be hit _ could be persistent, but a lot will be hit and — could be persistent, but a lot will be hit and miss because they are showers — be hit and miss because they are showers in _ be hit and miss because they are showers. in between, some sunshine, expect— showers. in between, some sunshine, expect some _ showers. in between, some sunshine, expect some wintry showers across northern— expect some wintry showers across northern ireland. temperatures today. _ northern ireland. temperatures today. -1 — northern ireland. temperatures today, —1 in newcastle, freezing in norwich _ today, —1 in newcastle, freezing in norwich. the wind is a little bit lighter— norwich. the wind is a little bit lighter than yesterday. through this evening _ lighter than yesterday. through this evening and overnight further wintry showers _ evening and overnight further wintry showers in _ evening and overnight further wintry showers in the northern isles, across— showers in the northern isles, across parts of scotland, the southeast, and this carol in the south—west. we could see a bit of winteriness — south—west. we could see a bit of winteriness also across the south—west of england. it will be cold, _ south—west of england. it will be cold, these temperatures indicate towns _ cold, these temperatures indicate towns and — cold, these temperatures indicate towns and cities. in rural areas, they— towns and cities. in rural areas, they will— towns and cities. in rural areas, they will be _ towns and cities. in rural areas, they will be lower and we could see -17 once _ they will be lower and we could see —17 once again in the highlands and grampian — —17 once again in the highlands and grampian. cold starts tomorrow, risk of ice. _ grampian. cold starts tomorrow, risk of ice, showers, loss of sunshine, and this— of ice, showers, loss of sunshine, and this coming in from the west. thank— and this coming in from the west. thank you — and this coming in from the west. thank you very much, see you later. plenty to keep an eye on. let's focus on one of our top stories now and tough new quarantine rules in england will include hefty fines and possible jail sentences. new rules come into force on monday with thousands of travellers returning to the uk having to quarantine in hotels. the health secretary matt hancock explained the changes to the house of commons. passengers will only be able to enter the uk through a small number of ports that currently account for the vast majority of passenger arrivals. when they arrive they'll be escorted to a designated hotel, which will be closed to guests who aren't quarantining, for ten days, or longer if they test positive for covid—i9 during their stay. we've contracted 16 hotels for an initial 4,600 rooms and we will secure more as they are needed. we can discuss this with kate nicholls from uk hospitality, and tony smith, who's a former head of uk border force. thank you so much forjoining us. kate nicholls, what is the latest you know about how many rooms are available? are at these hotels ready? available? are at these hotels read ? ., , ., ., , available? are at these hotels read? ., ready? hotels are ready, discussions are ongoing — ready? hotels are ready, discussions are ongoing between _ ready? hotels are ready, discussions are ongoing between government - ready? hotels are ready, discussions| are ongoing between government and our membershotels to add more bedroom — our membershotels to add more bedroom stuck. there is an initial contract _ bedroom stuck. there is an initial contract withjust over bedroom stuck. there is an initial contract with just over 4500 hotel rooms— contract with just over 4500 hotel rooms and — contract with just over 4500 hotel rooms and plenty of availability to take them — rooms and plenty of availability to take them up to the maximum, which is about— take them up to the maximum, which is about 28,000. our hotels are available, — is about 28,000. our hotels are available, we are in discussions with— available, we are in discussions with government about commercial requirements and specifications and how we _ requirements and specifications and how we can — requirements and specifications and how we can best meet them and we stand _ how we can best meet them and we stand ready— how we can best meet them and we stand ready to help with managed quarantine from the 15th of february. quarantine from the 15th of february-— quarantine from the 15th of februa . , ., quarantine from the 15th of februa . , february. tony, you used to be the boss of uk — february. tony, you used to be the boss of uk border _ february. tony, you used to be the boss of uk border force. _ february. tony, you used to be the boss of uk border force. in - february. tony, you used to be the boss of uk border force. in terms l february. tony, you used to be the | boss of uk border force. in terms of authority, where does your authority start and end and who will be policing this one that authority comes to an end from your perspective? comes to an end from your perspective?_ comes to an end from your perspective? comes to an end from your --ersective? ,., ., ., ., perspective? good morning. that border force _ perspective? good morning. that border force already _ perspective? good morning. that border force already has - perspective? good morning. that border force already has a - border force already has a 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presenting false _ defraud us to get into the country, presenting false passports, - defraud us to get into the country, presenting false passports, etc. i presenting false passports, etc. this new — presenting false passports, etc. this new power— presenting false passports, etc. this new power is _ presenting false passports, etc. this new power is all _ presenting false passports, etc. this new power is all about - presenting false passports, etc. this new power is all about this| this new power is all about this passage — this new power is all about this passage it _ this new power is all about this passage it located _ this new power is all about this passage it located form - this new power is all about this passage it located form and - this new power is all about thisj passage it located form and the requirement— passage it located form and the requirement that _ passage it located form and the requirement that you _ passage it located form and the requirement that you have - passage it located form and the requirement that you have to l passage it located form and the - requirement that you have to declare honestly— requirement that you have to declare honestly your — requirement that you have to declare honestly your travel— requirement that you have to declare honestly your travel history - requirement that you have to declare honestly your travel history when - honestly your travel history when you come — honestly your travel history when you come into _ honestly your travel history when you come into the _ honestly your travel history when you come into the country. - honestly your travel history when you come into the country. that. honestly your travel history when i you come into the country. that will be made _ you come into the country. that will be made very. — you come into the country. that will be made very. very— you come into the country. that will be made very, very clear— you come into the country. that will be made very, very clear to - be made very, very clear to passengers _ be made very, very clear to passengers when _ be made very, very clear to passengers when they- be made very, very clear to i passengers when they board. be made very, very clear to - passengers when they board. the airlines— passengers when they board. the airlines will— passengers when they board. the airlines will be _ passengers when they board. the airlines will be required _ passengers when they board. the airlines will be required to - passengers when they board. the airlines will be required to do - passengers when they board. the| airlines will be required to do that and lrorder— airlines will be required to do that and border force _ airlines will be required to do that and border force will— airlines will be required to do that and border force will be _ airlines will be required to do that and border force will be checking i airlines will be required to do that i and border force will be checking to make _ and border force will be checking to make sure — and border force will be checking to make sure you _ and border force will be checking to make sure you have _ and border force will be checking to make sure you have told _ and border force will be checking to make sure you have told the - and border force will be checking to make sure you have told the truth. | make sure you have told the truth. it is make sure you have told the truth. it is worth— make sure you have told the truth. it is worth saying _ make sure you have told the truth. it is worth saying that _ make sure you have told the truth. it is worth saying that people - it is worth saying that people should — it is worth saying that people should think— it is worth saying that people should think very, _ it is worth saying that people should think very, very - it is worth saying that people i should think very, very carefully it is worth saying that people - should think very, very carefully if they are _ should think very, very carefully if they are 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significant passenger reservation systems from _ significant passenger reservation systems from all— significant passenger reservation systems from all over— significant passenger reservation systems from all over the - significant passenger reservation systems from all over the airline | systems from all over the airline network. — systems from all over the airline network. and _ systems from all over the airline network, and it— systems from all over the airline network, and it would _ systems from all over the airline network, and it would be - systems from all over the airline network, and it would be very i network, and it would be very foolish. — network, and it would be very foolish, with _ network, and it would be very foolish, with a _ network, and it would be very foolish, with a penalty- network, and it would be very foolish, with a penalty of- network, and it would be very foolish, with a penalty of thatj foolish, with a penalty of that scale. — foolish, with a penalty of that scale. to _ foolish, with a penalty of that scale. to try _ foolish, with a penalty of that scale, to try to _ foolish, with a penalty of that scale, to try to conceal - foolish, with a penalty of that scale, to try to conceal the i foolish, with a penalty of that i scale, to try to conceal the fact you have — scale, to try to conceal the fact you have been _ scale, to try to conceal the fact you have been in _ scale, to try to conceal the fact you have been in this— scale, to try to conceal the fact you have been in this country. scale, to try to conceal the fact| you have been in this country in scale, to try to conceal the fact - you have been in this country in the last ten— you have been in this country in the last ten days — you have been in this country in the last ten days -- _ you have been in this country in the last ten days —— if— you have been in this country in the last ten days —— if you _ you have been in this country in the last ten days —— if you have - you have been in this country in the last ten days —— if you have in - you have been in this country in the last ten days —— if you have in a - last ten days —— if you have in a red list — last ten days —— if you have in a red list country. _ last ten days -- if you have in a red list country.— last ten days -- if you have in a red list country. somebody lands, the fill red list country. somebody lands, they fill out _ red list country. somebody lands, they fill out their _ red list country. somebody lands, they fill out their phone, - red list country. somebody lands, they fill out their phone, do - red list country. somebody lands, they fill out their phone, do you l they fill out their phone, do you know how it would work, how they would get escorted from the airport to their hotel?— to their hotel? there is a lot of work going _ to their hotel? there is a lot of work going on _ to their hotel? there is a lot of work going on right _ to their hotel? there is a lot of work going on right now. - to their hotel? there is a lot of work going on right now. the l work going on right now. the minister— work going on right now. the minister said _ work going on right now. the minister said yesterday - work going on right now. the minister said yesterday we i work going on right now. the - minister said yesterday we would restrict— minister said yesterday we would restrict this — minister said yesterday we would restrict this to _ minister said yesterday we would restrict this to a _ minister said yesterday we would restrict this to a number- minister said yesterday we would restrict this to a number of- restrict this to a number of specific— restrict this to a number of specific ports, _ restrict this to a number of specific ports, that - restrict this to a number of specific ports, that would i restrict this to a number of. specific ports, that would help because — specific ports, that would help because then _ specific ports, that would help because then we _ specific ports, that would help because then we can - specific ports, that would help because then we can deploy . specific ports, that would help i because then we can deploy our offices — because then we can deploy our offices to— because then we can deploy our offices to these _ because then we can deploy our offices to these points. - because then we can deploy our offices to these points. i- because then we can deploy our offices to these points. i wouldl offices to these points. i would like to— offices to these points. i would like to say— offices to these points. i would like to say don't _ offices to these points. i would like to say don't ever _ offices to these points. i would like to say don't ever see - offices to these points. i would like to say don't ever see a - like to say don't ever see a different— like to say don't ever see a different way— like to say don't ever see a different way of— like to say don't ever see a different way of processing passenger _ different way of processing passenger to _ different way of processing passenger to how- different way of processing passenger to how we - different way of processing passenger to how we are i different way of processing. passenger to how we are used different way of processing - passenger to how we are used to. traditionally— passenger to how we are used to. traditionally we _ passenger to how we are used to. traditionally we follow _ passenger to how we are used to. traditionally we follow people - passenger to how we are used to. | traditionally we follow people into an arrivals — traditionally we follow people into an arrivals hall. _ traditionally we follow people into an arrivals hall. we _ traditionally we follow people into an arrivals hall. we can— traditionally we follow people into an arrivals hall. we can put- traditionally we follow people into| an arrivals hall. we can put people into gate _ an arrivals hall. we can put people into gate lounges _ an arrivals hall. we can put people into gate lounges remotely, - an arrivals hall. we can put people into gate lounges remotely, send. into gate lounges remotely, send teams _ into gate lounges remotely, send teams there. _ into gate lounges remotely, send teams there, but _ into gate lounges remotely, send teams there, but it _ into gate lounges remotely, send teams there, but it would - into gate lounges remotely, send teams there, but it would require cross— teams there, but it would require cross effort — teams there, but it would require cross effort from _ teams there, but it would require cross effort from the _ teams there, but it would require cross effort from the boy - teams there, but it would require cross effort from the boy was - teams there, but it would require cross effort from the boy was at i teams there, but it would require . cross effort from the boy was at the local authorities, _ cross effort from the boy was at the localauthorities, local— cross effort from the boy was at the local authorities, local police, - cross effort from the boy was at the local authorities, local police, and l local authorities, local police, and hotels _ local authorities, local police, and hotels and — local authorities, local police, and hotels and transportation - local authorities, local police, and . hotels and transportation companies that will— hotels and transportation companies that will be — hotels and transportation companies that will be dealing _ hotels and transportation companies that will be dealing with _ hotels and transportation companies that will be dealing with it. - hotels and transportation companies that will be dealing with it. lots - that will be dealing with it. lots of work — that will be dealing with it. lots of work but _ that will be dealing with it. lots of work but it _ that will be dealing with it. lots of work but it is _ that will be dealing with it. lots of work but it is not— that will be dealing with it. lots of work but it is not beyond - that will be dealing with it. lots of work but it is not beyond us. | of work but it is not beyond us. cake, _ of work but it is not beyond us. cake, so— of work but it is not beyond us. cake, so many— of work but it is not beyond us. cake, so many questions - of work but it is not beyond us. i cake, so many questions around logistics, which i imagine louise will speak to grant shapps about in about ten minutes. from one your perspective, the responsibility of the hotels, are they looking after the hotels, are they looking after the security side of things, as well? ., , ., ., , well? no, we understand that will be looked after — well? no, we understand that will be looked after separately, _ well? no, we understand that will be looked after separately, as _ well? no, we understand that will be looked after separately, as will - looked after separately, as will transportation. there will be security— transportation. there will be security arrangements in place to bring _ security arrangements in place to bring passengers from the port of entry— bring passengers from the port of entry to _ bring passengers from the port of entry to the hotel. our responsibility will be to check them in, responsibility will be to check them in. look— responsibility will be to check them in, look afterthem, provide responsibility will be to check them in, look after them, provide them with as _ in, look after them, provide them with as pleasant as they are possible, use our health and safety expertise _ possible, use our health and safety expertise to make sure we provide them _ expertise to make sure we provide them with— expertise to make sure we provide them with a room and check—in and food in _ them with a room and check—in and food in a _ them with a room and check—in and food in a way— them with a room and check—in and food in a way that minimises any risk to— food in a way that minimises any risk to our— food in a way that minimises any risk to our staff and to the guests themselves. but then security it will be _ themselves. but then security it will be looked after in the hotel by a separate — will be looked after in the hotel by a separate force, so the hotels will not have _ a separate force, so the hotels will not have responsibility for enforcement of this, we will be there _ enforcement of this, we will be there to — enforcement of this, we will be there to a — enforcement of this, we will be there to a difficult time as pleasant as possible. in £1750 charue, pleasant as possible. in £1750 charge. what _ pleasant as possible. in £1750 charge, what is _ pleasant as possible. in £1750 charge, what is included - pleasant as possible. in £1750 charge, what is included with | pleasant as possible. in £1750 i charge, what is included with you mention food, is there anything else, potentially extra costs? room, accommodation _ else, potentially extra costs? room, accommodation and _ else, potentially extra costs? room, accommodation and facilities - else, potentially extra costs? room, accommodation and facilities that. else, potentially extra costs? room, accommodation and facilities that go | accommodation and facilities that go alongside _ accommodation and facilities that go alongside that and cleaning but then there are _ alongside that and cleaning but then there are three meals per day. tea, coffee _ there are three meals per day. tea, coffee and _ there are three meals per day. tea, coffee and water. then we understand that guests _ coffee and water. then we understand that guests will be able to supplement that if they want to but that minimum cost that is paid for by the _ that minimum cost that is paid for by the government upfront covers the accommodation, your two tests, transportation, security. can accommodation, your two tests, transportation, security.- accommodation, your two tests, transportation, security. can i ask a wider question? _ transportation, security. can i ask a wider question? we _ transportation, security. can i ask a wider question? we have - transportation, security. can i ask a wider question? we have seen i transportation, security. can i ask. a wider question? we have seen you talking about the industry, the uk hospitality industry over the last few months, usually effective. how does that impact on the industry, this kind of change to travel restrictions?— this kind of change to travel restrictions? . , ., ., restrictions? clearly there are two elements. restrictions? clearly there are two elements we _ restrictions? clearly there are two elements. we are _ restrictions? clearly there are two elements. we are very _ restrictions? clearly there are two elements. we are very pleased i restrictions? clearly there are two elements. we are very pleased to j restrictions? clearly there are two - elements. we are very pleased to see there is— elements. we are very pleased to see there is tough enforcement being proposed — there is tough enforcement being proposed here to make sure that we continue _ proposed here to make sure that we continue to— proposed here to make sure that we continue to drive down infection levels _ continue to drive down infection levels within the country so that we can reopen — levels within the country so that we can reopen our domestic tourism industry— can reopen our domestic tourism industry and hospitality industry. we need — industry and hospitality industry. we need those case numbers down and this plays _ we need those case numbers down and this plays a _ we need those case numbers down and this plays a and we are happy to help— this plays a and we are happy to help the — this plays a and we are happy to help the government in trying to achieve — help the government in trying to achieve that through managed quarantine. the second is that we do need _ quarantine. the second is that we do need to— quarantine. the second is that we do need to understand the exit strategy from this— need to understand the exit strategy from this because we will undoubtedly have a crossover between measures _ undoubtedly have a crossover between measures that are controlling the border— measures that are controlling the border entry and egress from uk citizens— border entry and egress from uk citizens but also international citizens — citizens but also international citizens and we want to know how the hotels _ citizens and we want to know how the hotels can _ citizens and we want to know how the hotels can move and pivot away from being _ hotels can move and pivot away from being a _ hotels can move and pivot away from being a control centre towards welcoming guests again as the domestic hospitality industry opens up. domestic hospitality industry opens up we _ domestic hospitality industry opens up. we need to understand the exit strategy— up. we need to understand the exit strategy and the phasing out of this _ strategy and the phasing out of this. ., , , ., strategy and the phasing out of this. ., , ,, . strategy and the phasing out of this. ., , ., ., ,, ., this. tony, you have talked about some of the _ this. tony, you have talked about some of the issues _ this. tony, you have talked about some of the issues you _ this. tony, you have talked about some of the issues you can - this. tony, you have talked about some of the issues you can see . some of the issues you can see arising. from your experience of what the border force can and can't do, and the logistics around that, do, and the logistics around that, do you think this can be put in place and run effectively and efficiently by monday? the border force have been _ efficiently by monday? the border force have been under— efficiently by monday? the border force have been under a _ efficiently by monday? the border force have been under a lot - efficiently by monday? the border force have been under a lot of- force have been under a lot of pressure _ force have been under a lot of pressure recently. _ force have been under a lot of pressure recently. we - force have been under a lot of pressure recently. we have i force have been under a lot of. pressure recently. we have the ending — pressure recently. we have the ending of— pressure recently. we have the ending of a _ pressure recently. we have the ending of a freak _ pressure recently. we have the ending of a freak movement. pressure recently. we have thel ending of a freak movement and pressure recently. we have the - ending of a freak movement and all that _ ending of a freak movement and all that we _ ending of a freak movement and all that we still— ending of a freak movement and all that. we still have _ ending of a freak movement and all that. we still have migrant - ending of a freak movement and all that. we still have migrant boats. that. we still have migrant boats and new — that. we still have migrant boats and new disease _ that. we still have migrant boats and new disease measures. - that. we still have migrant boats and new disease measures. a i that. we still have migrant boatsj and new disease measures. a lot that. we still have migrant boats. and new disease measures. a lot of work— and new disease measures. a lot of work to— and new disease measures. a lot of work to be — and new disease measures. a lot of work to be done _ and new disease measures. a lot of work to be done but— and new disease measures. a lot of work to be done but it _ and new disease measures. a lot of work to be done but it is _ and new disease measures. a lot of work to be done but it is a - and new disease measures. a lot of work to be done but it is a hugely. work to be done but it is a hugely resilient — work to be done but it is a hugely resilient organisation _ work to be done but it is a hugely resilient organisation in - work to be done but it is a hugely resilient organisation in my- resilient organisation in my experience _ resilient organisation in my experience. we _ resilient organisation in my experience. we have - resilient organisation in my experience. we have to - resilient organisation in my. experience. we have to adapt resilient organisation in my- experience. we have to adapt to new threats, _ experience. we have to adapt to new threats, it _ experience. we have to adapt to new threats, it is — experience. we have to adapt to new threats, it is part— experience. we have to adapt to new threats, it is part of— experience. we have to adapt to new threats, it is part of our— experience. we have to adapt to new threats, it is part of our role - experience. we have to adapt to new threats, it is part of our role to - threats, it is part of our role to protect — threats, it is part of our role to protect public— threats, it is part of our role to protect public health _ threats, it is part of our role to protect public health as - threats, it is part of our role to protect public health as well. threats, it is part of our role toj protect public health as well as threats, it is part of our role to l protect public health as well as a security— protect public health as well as a security and _ protect public health as well as a security and i'm _ protect public health as well as a security and i'm sure _ protect public health as well as a security and i'm sure we - protect public health as well as a security and i'm sure we will- protect public health as well as a security and i'm sure we will be i protect public health as well as a i security and i'm sure we will be up to the _ security and i'm sure we will be up to the task— security and i'm sure we will be up to the task but _ security and i'm sure we will be up to the task but we _ security and i'm sure we will be up to the task but we need _ security and i'm sure we will be up to the task but we need to - security and i'm sure we will be up to the task but we need to work. security and i'm sure we will be up to the task but we need to work in| to the task but we need to work in collaboration _ to the task but we need to work in collaboration with— to the task but we need to work in collaboration with partners - collaboration with partners including _ collaboration with partners including local— collaboration with partners including local police, - collaboration with partners - including local police, authorities, health— including local police, authorities, health agencies, _ including local police, authorities, health agencies, to _ including local police, authorities, health agencies, to get _ including local police, authorities, health agencies, to get this - including local police, authorities, l health agencies, to get this working around _ health agencies, to get this working around the — health agencies, to get this working around the points _ health agencies, to get this working around the points up— health agencies, to get this working around the points up entry. - health agencies, to get this working around the points up entry. i- health agencies, to get this working around the points up entry. i am - around the points up entry. i am confident— around the points up entry. i am confident we _ around the points up entry. i am confident we can _ around the points up entry. i am confident we can do _ around the points up entry. i am confident we can do it— around the points up entry. i am confident we can do it but- around the points up entry. i am confident we can do it but it - around the points up entry. i am confident we can do it but it is l around the points up entry. i am confident we can do it but it is a| confident we can do it but it is a bil confident we can do it but it is a big ask~ — confident we can do it but it is a bi ask. ., , ,, ., ., ., big ask. tony smith, former head of uk border force, _ big ask. tony smith, former head of uk border force, and _ big ask. tony smith, former head of uk border force, and red _ big ask. tony smith, former head of uk border force, and red list, - big ask. tony smith, former head of uk border force, and red list, the i uk borderforce, and red list, the chief executive of uk hospitality. good to speak to you. for many of us, our pets have been a source of company and comfort during lockdown. but the increase in popularity has also led to a lucrative market. now, police are warning people to take particular care of their pets because of an increase in the number of thefts. detective superintendent neil austin is from the national police chiefs' council. thank you for being with us. give an idea, first of all, it is a pretty traumatic crime for anyone who has been through this. what is the scale of the problem at the moment? irate of the problem at the moment? , recognise it is very traumatic. theft of a pet has a massive impact on the owners and family. it is difficult to have an accurate picture of the scale because of the way it is recorded. the charity douglas has shown an increase from 2019 to 2020. to put that into perspective it is a relatively rare crime and we are looking at 165 dogs being stolen in 2020. numbers are still relatively low.— still relatively low. having a pet stolen is absolutely _ still relatively low. having a pet stolen is absolutely devastating j still relatively low. having a pet. stolen is absolutely devastating for people. stolen is absolutely devastating for eo - le. , stolen is absolutely devastating for eo . le, , ., , stolen is absolutely devastating for --eole. , . , ., people. yes. clearly has a massive im act on people. yes. clearly has a massive impact on the _ people. yes. clearly has a massive impact on the family, _ people. yes. clearly has a massive impact on the family, it _ people. yes. clearly has a massive impact on the family, it is - people. yes. clearly has a massive impact on the family, it is a - impact on the family, it is a horrendous crime, so it is something we are looking at and trying to target. i5 we are looking at and trying to taruet. , we are looking at and trying to tar.et_ , , , we are looking at and trying to taruet. , , , ., , target. is it because of the rise in the cost of _ target. is it because of the rise in the cost of some _ target. is it because of the rise in the cost of some of— target. is it because of the rise in the cost of some of these - target. is it because of the rise in the cost of some of these dogs i target. is it because of the rise in i the cost of some of these dogs are? i was looking this morning, £2500 or £3000 for a cockapoo, for example. during lockdown, there has been an incredible increase in demand for dogs and puppies, whether because people are at home or alone more, so the price has gone up. this is a lucrative market for criminals and we have seen intelligence to suggest that organised criminals, crime groups, have adapted their criminality to take advantage of this market.— criminality to take advantage of this market. . ., ., ., , this market. either particular areas bein: this market. either particular areas being targeted. — this market. either particular areas being targeted, or _ this market. either particular areas being targeted, or dogged - this market. either particular areas being targeted, or dogged types? | being targeted, or dogged types? know, at this stage there is no intelligence to suggest, there are a variety of breeds are stolen. we are working with a number of forces across the uk. some have been hit more than others but it seems to be quite sporadic across the uk. lots of --eole quite sporadic across the uk. lots of people will _ quite sporadic across the uk. lots of people will be _ quite sporadic across the uk. lots of people will be watching at home, hearing this, being really concerned for their pets. what advice do you have to keep their dogs safe, for example? irate have to keep their dogs safe, for examle? ~ .., ., ., ., , have to keep their dogs safe, for exam le? . .., ., ., ., , ., example? we encourage all owners to take simle example? we encourage all owners to take simple crime _ example? we encourage all owners to take simple crime prevention - example? we encourage all owners to take simple crime prevention steps i take simple crime prevention steps around their home, their guidance. be aware of social media, ensure your privacy settings are set correctly. don't use location types, we don't want people knowing where you live. if you are walking your dog commit be aware of people around you, watching you. don't leave your dog tied up outside a shop or a public place. there are a number of websites that give advice. blue cross is one, which gives advice on how to prevent this.— how to prevent this. does it feel like a pretty _ how to prevent this. does it feel like a pretty organised - how to prevent this. does it feel like a pretty organised crime? i how to prevent this. does it feel i like a pretty organised crime? yeah. i think we get _ like a pretty organised crime? yeah. i think we get two _ like a pretty organised crime? yeah. i think we get two types. _ like a pretty organised crime? yeah. i think we get two types. the - i think we get two types. the opportunists, where a dog is left in a garden but there is also evidence to show that organised crime is getting involved in this they will travel extensive distances to locate and steal these dogs. share travel extensive distances to locate and steal these dogs.— and steal these dogs. are you able to reunite at _ and steal these dogs. are you able to reunite at least _ and steal these dogs. are you able to reunite at least some... - and steal these dogs. are you able to reunite at least some... how i and steal these dogs. are you able i to reunite at least some... how many dogs will you be able to reunite with their owners? i dogs will you be able to reunite with their owners?— with their owners? i don't have exact figures — with their owners? i don't have exact figures but _ with their owners? i don't have exact figures but we _ with their owners? i don't have exact figures but we have i with their owners? i don't have exact figures but we have had l with their owners? i don't have | exact figures but we have had a number of successes across the country. in greater manchester, three people were arrested and seven puppies recovered. in powys, dogs were recovered and retained their owners, which is challenging. people were arrested westminster police, four men arrested and 44 dogs recovered. enquiries are ongoing. it can be challenging to identify where the dogs are from because after they will travel large distances to steal them. ~ , , ., will travel large distances to steal them. , ., ., ., them. the key is to have your dog microchip you _ them. the key is to have your dog microchip you can _ them. the key is to have your dog microchip you can be _ them. the key is to have your dog microchip you can be reunited i them. the key is to have your dog | microchip you can be reunited with it. , . ., , ., microchip you can be reunited with it. ,. microchip you can be reunited with it. yes, certainly adult dogs. many are microchip _ it. yes, certainly adult dogs. many are microchip which _ it. yes, certainly adult dogs. many are microchip which makes - it. yes, certainly adult dogs. many are microchip which makes it i it. yes, certainly adult dogs. many are microchip which makes it easy| it. yes, certainly adult dogs. many l are microchip which makes it easy to return them, but with poppies, they are not microchip so that makes it difficult. ., ~ are not microchip so that makes it difficult. ., ,, , ., , are not microchip so that makes it difficult. ., ~' , ., , . difficult. thank you very much indeed for _ difficult. thank you very much indeed for your _ difficult. thank you very much indeed for your time. - inafew in a few minutes we will be speaking to the transport secretary grant shapps, largely about the new quarantine measures being put in place. also, later on, we are here until 9:15am, we will be speaking to simon callow. he has the best voice of the world. him and kelly shelley, taking part in the read—through scheme, which is part of helping gcse and a—level students who cannot go to the theatre, struggling to do the normal things they would do as part of their education. a number of actors will be reading through famous place, some shakespeare plays. that is what simon callow is here to talk about. students, in some instances, they can take part in the play, read along with them and ask questions. an amazing idea. that's coming up later and also this is that whether for bareskin running. time now to get the news, travel and weather where you are. good morning from bbc london, i'm tolu adeoye. parts of south london have become the latest places in the capital to see additional testing, after a case of the south african variant of covid—19 was identified. residents in streatham, gipsy hill and west norwood are being encouraged to get a test whether they are showing symptoms or not. it comes after door to door testing was introduced yesterday in ealing, after the variant was discovered there as well. new figures show dog thefts have risen with organised criminals capitalising on a rise in demand for puppies during the pandemic. the charity dog lost says reported thefts rose by more than a fifth in 2020 in the south—east. police are advising people to be careful when posting pictures of new puppies on social media and double check where their pets are coming from. london's key workers have been at the forefront of this pandemic as we know, particularly those working in the nhs. rob, who's a doctor, hasn't seen his mum for almost a year. the family hope with a successful vaccine roll out there'll be a reunion not far off. i'll give her the biggest hug, the biggest kiss. i don't think i'd let her go for about an hour, two, maybe?! i just think about all those people who haven't seen their loved ones and are working in the throes of it all _ he isjust such an important part of my life. i miss him so much. let's take a look at the travel situation now. all good on the tubes apart from that ongoing closure of the waterloo and city line. if we take a look at the roads now, it's very slow on the a2 near bexleyheath into town through the roadworks at the danson interchange. in hendon, finchley lane is closed at the a1 for repairs to a burst water main. finally, in roehampton, putney heath is closed at dover house road because of a gas leak. now the weather with elizabeth rizzini. hello, good morning. feeling very cold again today. temperatures once more below freezing this morning. and there's still a met office weather warning in place for snow that's valid until midnight tonight. now there is still always the chance of some lines of snow showers feeding in, particularly towards eastern areas. because the north—easterly wind isn't as strong today, there won't be as much wind chill. those showers are not being driven quite so far across the capital. but always the chance of seeing some more snow, particularly towards the thames estuary — another couple of centimetres here as we head throughout the day. but for many of us i think it will stay dry or mostly dry, some spells of brightness or sunshine. still very chilly indeed, but temperatures for the first time in a couple of days for many of us will be above freezing, one or two celsius. now this evening and overnight, it is going to be one of the coldest nights that we have seen for quite some time. temperatures could drop as low as —7 or —8 celsius. tomorrow is looking dry, still very cold indeed. some spells of brightness, some sunshine. it will turn windier towards the end of the week. i'm back with the latest from the bbc london in half an hour. now though it's back to louise and dan. bye for now. hello, this is breakfast with dan walker and louise minchin. let's get more now on those new rules for travellers arriving into england from next week. we're joined by the transport secretary, grant shapps. good morning. thank you forjoining us. there is so much information that people will want from you. let's start with travellers returning to england from 33 red list countries. they will have to pay £1750 to quarantine in these hotels for seven days. how many hotels for seven days. how many hotel spaces do you have available? immediately about 5000. we think the numbers— immediately about 5000. we think the numbers are very small in terms of people _ numbers are very small in terms of people returning. because of course nobody— people returning. because of course nobody should be travelling anywhere at this _ nobody should be travelling anywhere at this stage either domestically or internationally. these countries don't _ internationally. these countries don't have _ internationally. these countries don't have direct flights back from them _ don't have direct flights back from them. they have been in a red list for a _ them. they have been in a red list for a while — them. they have been in a red list for a while in _ them. they have been in a red list for a while in some cases. so most people _ for a while in some cases. so most people will— for a while in some cases. so most people will have already have repatriated if that is what they need — repatriated if that is what they need to — repatriated if that is what they need to do. and it's only british and i_ need to do. and it's only british and l resit— need to do. and it's only british and i resit citizens, and others who are permanent residents, who can travel— are permanent residents, who can travel here — are permanent residents, who can travel here from these countries at all. ,., travel here from these countries at all. , ., travel here from these countries at all. i. ,, ., , travel here from these countries at all. ,, ., , ., all. do you know the figures of numbers per— all. do you know the figures of numbers per week _ all. do you know the figures of numbers per week actually i all. do you know the figures of- numbers per week actually travelling from those countries, today for example? from those countries, today for examle? ., from those countries, today for example?— from those countries, today for examle? . ., , ., , example? yeah, we do. they have been about 1300 or— example? yeah, we do. they have been about 1300 or so. _ example? yeah, we do. they have been about 1300 or so. those _ example? yeah, we do. they have been about 1300 or so. those people - example? yeah, we do. they have been about 1300 or so. those people have i about 1300 or so. those people have obviously— about 1300 or so. those people have obviously had to quarantine as well. from _ obviously had to quarantine as well. from next— obviously had to quarantine as well. from next week they would have to guarantine — from next week they would have to quarantine in a hotel and pay the additional— quarantine in a hotel and pay the additional £1750, as well as having to have _ additional £1750, as well as having to have the predeparture test, which they will— to have the predeparture test, which they will need to pay for, and two additional— they will need to pay for, and two additional tests on day two and day eight. _ additional tests on day two and day eight, which everybody will need when _ eight, which everybody will need when they come from a red list country— when they come from a red list country and having to go to quarantine. if you are not from one of those _ quarantine. if you are not from one of those countries, in any case, the point _ of those countries, in any case, the point is _ of those countries, in any case, the point is very— of those countries, in any case, the point is very few people should be travelling — point is very few people should be travelling from those red list countries. travelling from those red list countries— travelling from those red list countries. ~ , . , , travelling from those red list countries. , . , , ., countries. we expect the numbers to fall. you countries. we expect the numbers to fall- you make _ countries. we expect the numbers to fall. you make the _ countries. we expect the numbers to fall. you make the point _ countries. we expect the numbers to fall. you make the point that - countries. we expect the numbers to fall. you make the point that very i fall. you make the point that very few people travelling on those people travelling will take essential journeys. people travelling will take essentialjourneys. one lady, liz, has had to travel to portugal because her father died. has had to travel to portugal because herfather died. she is now faced with a huge bill. idistill because her father died. she is now faced with a huge bill.— faced with a huge bill. will there be exemptions? _ faced with a huge bill. will there be exemptions? yes, _ faced with a huge bill. will there be exemptions? yes, if- faced with a huge bill. will there be exemptions? yes, if she i faced with a huge bill. will there i be exemptions? yes, if she doesn't come _ be exemptions? yes, if she doesn't come back— be exemptions? yes, if she doesn't come back before monday, that's right _ come back before monday, that's right you — come back before monday, that's right. you do get these cases, which we have _ right. you do get these cases, which we have seen throughout the whole of the coronavirus, where sadly, families— the coronavirus, where sadly, families throughout the uk have been impacted _ families throughout the uk have been impacted by this and sometimes haven't— impacted by this and sometimes haven't been able to say goodbye to loved _ haven't been able to say goodbye to loved ones — haven't been able to say goodbye to loved ones. it's a terrible, terrible _ loved ones. it's a terrible, terrible thing, it's a terrible virus~ — terrible thing, it's a terrible virus~ if— terrible thing, it's a terrible virus. if there are hardship cases, people _ virus. if there are hardship cases, people should of course contact the embassies— people should of course contact the embassies in various different countries _ embassies in various different countries. generally speaking i'm afraid _ countries. generally speaking i'm afraid the — countries. generally speaking i'm afraid the answer is that people will need — afraid the answer is that people will need to adhere... the answer is 100% _ will need to adhere... the answer is 100% will— will need to adhere... the answer is 100% will need to go into these managed — 100% will need to go into these managed to quarantine hotels after monday _ managed to quarantine hotels after monday. and we do plead with people, bear in _ monday. and we do plead with people, bear in mind _ monday. and we do plead with people, bear in mind the low is that you cannot— bear in mind the low is that you cannot travel. people should not be travelling _ cannot travel. people should not be travelling for leisure purposes, domestically or internationally. we domestically or internationally. we do absolutely need to make sure that we have _ do absolutely need to make sure that we have all— do absolutely need to make sure that we have all the defences are up against — we have all the defences are up against these variants of the virus, particularly — against these variants of the virus, particularly now. we have checked the latest — particularly now. we have checked the latest figure in terms of total injections —— infections. 31 million people. _ injections —— infections. 31 million people, more than the rest of the uk -- what _ people, more than the rest of the uk —— what might eu countries put together — —— what might eu countries put together. we don't want to lose at the last— together. we don't want to lose at the last eight here when we are doing _ the last eight here when we are doing so— the last eight here when we are doing so well with the vaccination programme. doing so well with the vaccination programme-— doing so well with the vaccination rouramme. ., ., ., , programme. you mention that people cannot also fly — programme. you mention that people cannot also fly from _ programme. you mention that people cannot also fly from these _ programme. you mention that people cannot also fly from these red - programme. you mention that people cannot also fly from these red list i cannot also fly from these red list countries, so they are coming in on flights with other people who haven't. how do you ensure that people on that flight are safe, for example? people on that flight are safe, for examle? , ,., people on that flight are safe, for examle? , ,., , ., example? yes, so the first thing to sa is example? yes, so the first thing to say is most — example? yes, so the first thing to say is most people _ example? yes, so the first thing to say is most people who _ example? yes, so the first thing to say is most people who need i example? yes, so the first thing to say is most people who need to i say is most people who need to return _ say is most people who need to return from red list countries will already— return from red list countries will already have done so. the next thing is that— already have done so. the next thing is that absolutely everybody, regardless of whether you have come from a _ regardless of whether you have come from a red _ regardless of whether you have come from a red list country or anywhere else. _ from a red list country or anywhere else. must— from a red list country or anywhere else, must have taken predeparture test within— else, must have taken predeparture test within the 72 hours before. so people _ test within the 72 hours before. so people will— test within the 72 hours before. so people will be travelling with a negative test. in addition to that of the _ negative test. in addition to that of the airlines have a whole lot of protocols — of the airlines have a whole lot of protocols in place. we are doing everything that we can come everything that we can come everything that we can come everything that is possible. once people _ everything that is possible. once people get back your, if they are from _ people get back your, if they are from a _ people get back your, if they are from a red — people get back your, if they are from a red this country, they will have _ from a red this country, they will have to _ from a red this country, they will have to go — from a red this country, they will have to go to the managed quarantine hotels. _ have to go to the managed quarantine hotels, have tests on day two and day eight~ — hotels, have tests on day two and day eight. that is part of the £1750 package~ _ day eight. that is part of the £1750 package it — day eight. that is part of the £1750 package. it is not a cheap thing to do, package. it is not a cheap thing to do. which — package. it is not a cheap thing to do, which again is why it is important people don't travel. and finally. _ important people don't travel. and finally, they can be released on day ten when _ finally, they can be released on day ten when we know there is no chance of there _ ten when we know there is no chance of there being coronavirus with that person _ of there being coronavirus with that person con— of there being coronavirus with that erson. . . ~' of there being coronavirus with that erson. . ., ~ ., person. can we talk about the penalties _ person. can we talk about the penalties being _ person. can we talk about the penalties being put _ person. can we talk about the penalties being put in - person. can we talk about the penalties being put in place? | penalties being put in place? £10,000 for what, exactly? yes. penalties being put in place? £10,000 for what, exactly? yes, it is u- to £10,000 for what, exactly? yes, it is up to £10,000. _ £10,000 for what, exactly? yes, it is up to £10,000. to _ £10,000 for what, exactly? yes, it is up to £10,000. to give - £10,000 for what, exactly? yes, it is up to £10,000. to give you i £10,000 for what, exactly? yes, it| is up to £10,000. to give you some examples. — is up to £10,000. to give you some examples. if— is up to £10,000. to give you some examples, if you were to fail to take _ examples, if you were to fail to take your— examples, if you were to fail to take your day two coronavirus test when _ take your day two coronavirus test when you — take your day two coronavirus test when you get back, that would be £1000 _ when you get back, that would be £1000. £2000 if you fail to take the day eight~ _ £1000. £2000 if you fail to take the day eight. then there are fines, for example. _ day eight. then there are fines, for example, for deliberately misleading, deliberately lying about having _ misleading, deliberately lying about having to _ misleading, deliberately lying about having to be —— having been on one of those _ having to be —— having been on one of those red — having to be —— having been on one of those red list countries for the previous— of those red list countries for the previous ten days. you must fill in passenger— previous ten days. you must fill in passenger locator forms. people have to do that _ passenger locator forms. people have to do that because you can't any longer— to do that because you can't any longer board a flight to the uk without— longer board a flight to the uk without having filled in a passenger locator _ without having filled in a passenger locator format without having got a predeparture test. there are fines which _ predeparture test. there are fines which go — predeparture test. there are fines which go up to £10,000. indeed, you know. _ which go up to £10,000. indeed, you know. up— which go up to £10,000. indeed, you know. up to _ which go up to £10,000. indeed, you know. up to a — which go up to £10,000. indeed, you know, up to a prison sentence of ten years _ know, up to a prison sentence of ten years but _ know, up to a prison sentence of ten years. but you would have to be very much _ years. but you would have to be very much going _ years. but you would have to be very much going out of your way to avoid the system — much going out of your way to avoid the system and lie and cheat in order— the system and lie and cheat in order to — the system and lie and cheat in order to put yourself and others in that situation. of course, what we are trying — that situation. of course, what we are trying to do here is protect the population— are trying to do here is protect the population here from variants that we don't _ population here from variants that we don't want to be importing at this stage — we don't want to be importing at this stage. even though, as we know, we have _ this stage. even though, as we know, we have some of our own variants, like the _ we have some of our own variants, like the kent — we have some of our own variants, like the kent variant. you we have some of our own variants, like the kent variant.— like the kent variant. you mention that the prison _ like the kent variant. you mention that the prison sentence. - like the kent variant. you mention that the prison sentence. there i like the kent variant. you mention that the prison sentence. there is| that the prison sentence. there is some concern from some people about this. lowerassumption, some concern from some people about this. lower assumption, for example, he asks matt hancock, does mr hancock really think that nondisclosure of a visit to portugal is worse than the large number of violent firearms offences or sexual offences involving minors for which the maximum is seven years? what is your answer to that?— the maximum is seven years? what is your answer to that? well, my answer is it is u- your answer to that? well, my answer is it is up to — your answer to that? well, my answer is it is up to ten _ your answer to that? well, my answer is it is up to ten years. _ your answer to that? well, my answer is it is up to ten years. it _ your answer to that? well, my answer is it is up to ten years. it is _ your answer to that? well, my answer is it is up to ten years. it is a - is it is up to ten years. it is a terror — is it is up to ten years. it is a terror it— is it is up to ten years. it is a terror it is— is it is up to ten years. it is a terror. it is not necessarily how long _ terror. it is not necessarily how long is — terror. it is not necessarily how long is a — terror. it is not necessarily how long is a body would go to prison for. long is a body would go to prison for i_ long is a body would go to prison for i do— long is a body would go to prison for. i do think it is serious if people _ for. i do think it is serious if people put others in danger by deliberately misleading and are saying. — deliberately misleading and are saying, you know, you weren't in brazil— saying, you know, you weren't in brazil or— saying, you know, you weren't in brazil or south africa or one of the red list _ brazil or south africa or one of the red list countries, which as you say does _ red list countries, which as you say does include — red list countries, which as you say does include portugal, because it is a regular— does include portugal, because it is a regular travel route from brazil, or was. _ a regular travel route from brazil, orwas. prior— a regular travel route from brazil, orwas, priorto a regular travel route from brazil, or was, prior to flights being banned _ or was, prior to flights being banned and these additional measures. but i think the british public— measures. but i think the british public would expect pretty strong action _ public would expect pretty strong action. because we are not talking now action. because we are not talking nowiust _ action. because we are not talking nowjust about, oh, there is a lot of coronavirus in that country, you might— of coronavirus in that country, you might bring — of coronavirus in that country, you might bring some more of it back, when _ might bring some more of it back, when we _ might bring some more of it back, when we already have plenty of it here _ when we already have plenty of it here. what we are talking about here are the _ here. what we are talking about here are the mutations, the variants, and that is— are the mutations, the variants, and that is a _ are the mutations, the variants, and that is a different matter because we don't — that is a different matter because we don't want to be in a situation where _ we don't want to be in a situation where we — we don't want to be in a situation where we later discover that there is a problem with the vaccines. for the time _ is a problem with the vaccines. for the time being i have to say getting vaccinated — the time being i have to say getting vaccinated is the very best thing people — vaccinated is the very best thing people can do. 13.1 million people have _ people can do. 13.1 million people have had — people can do. 13.1 million people have had vaccinations. so we know this is— have had vaccinations. so we know this is going — have had vaccinations. so we know this is going great guns. canl have had vaccinations. so we know this is going great guns.— this is going great guns. can i ask ou about this is going great guns. can i ask you about the _ this is going great guns. can i ask you about the pathway _ this is going great guns. can i ask you about the pathway out? i this is going great guns. can i ask you about the pathway out? so i this is going great guns. can i ask. you about the pathway out? so much concern from many people, including, of course, the travel industry, about how you lift this. what is the pathway? what needs to be the difference for this to change? first of all, difference for this to change? first of all. everybody _ difference for this to change? first of all, everybody having their vaccinations. we have seen these hugely— vaccinations. we have seen these hugely high number.— vaccinations. we have seen these hugely high number. sorry, you said eve bod . hugely high number. sorry, you said everybody- what _ hugely high number. sorry, you said everybody. what do _ hugely high number. sorry, you said everybody. what do you _ hugely high number. sorry, you said everybody. what do you mean i hugely high number. sorry, you said everybody. what do you mean by i hugely high number. sorry, you said i everybody. what do you mean by that? i mean, as soon as you're offered one. _ i mean, as soon as you're offered one. and — i mean, as soon as you're offered one. and by— i mean, as soon as you're offered one, and by the way if you haven't been _ one, and by the way if you haven't been offered one and you are over 70, been offered one and you are over 70. get— been offered one and you are over 70. get in— been offered one and you are over 70, get in touch with the nhs and .et 70, get in touch with the nhs and get yourself booked in, and gradually that age limit will come down _ gradually that age limit will come down. and as it does we will be able to vaccinate — down. and as it does we will be able to vaccinate the entire british population. and as mentioned, we've made _ population. and as mentioned, we've made a _ population. and as mentioned, we've made a phenomenal start on that as a country _ made a phenomenal start on that as a count . �* . . made a phenomenal start on that as a count. 2, . ., made a phenomenal start on that as a count . �*, , . ., country. let's be clear. so until that is done. — country. let's be clear. so until that is done, these _ country. let's be clear. so until that is done, these restrictions| that is done, these restrictions will be lifted?— will be lifted? yes, actually, i should say — will be lifted? yes, actually, i should say on _ will be lifted? yes, actually, i should say on the _ will be lifted? yes, actually, i should say on the 22nd i will be lifted? yes, actually, i should say on the 22nd of- will be lifted? yes, actually, i- should say on the 22nd of february the prime — should say on the 22nd of february the prime minister is going to make a statement and set out a road map for what _ a statement and set out a road map for what we — a statement and set out a road map for what we hope will be the route out of _ for what we hope will be the route out of this — for what we hope will be the route out of this. it will be conditional. if out of this. it will be conditional. if this _ out of this. it will be conditional. if this happens and cases are coming down. _ if this happens and cases are coming down. and _ if this happens and cases are coming down, and we see deaths and mortality— down, and we see deaths and mortality is reducing further and so on and _ mortality is reducing further and so on and so _ mortality is reducing further and so on and so forth, and the vaccination programme — on and so forth, and the vaccination programme is running as planned, then we _ programme is running as planned, then we will set out a series of dates— then we will set out a series of dates to — then we will set out a series of dates to start to unlock from this lockdown — dates to start to unlock from this lockdown. the key question could be, when _ lockdown. the key question could be, when will— lockdown. the key question could be, when will be — lockdown. the key question could be, when will be be able to international travel? the answer is we don't _ international travel? the answer is we don't know the answer to that question— we don't know the answer to that question yet. it depends on the level— question yet. it depends on the level of— question yet. it depends on the level of vaccination here and critically. _ level of vaccination here and critically, elsewhere. and as i mentioned, i'mjust critically, elsewhere. and as i mentioned, i'm just checking the figures. — mentioned, i'm just checking the figures, we have done 13 million plus vaccinations, which isjust more — plus vaccinations, which isjust more than _ plus vaccinations, which isjust more than the whole of the eu put together — more than the whole of the eu put together. so we need to wait for other— together. so we need to wait for other countries to catch up as well in order— other countries to catch up as well in order to — other countries to catch up as well in order to be able to do that wider international unlock because we can only control — international unlock because we can only control the situation here. a only control the situation here. couple of other questions. yes or no. will mps get a vote on this? so mps always have to sign off the measures— mps always have to sign off the measures as they go along. so we have _ measures as they go along. so we have a _ measures as they go along. so we have a review on a monthly basis for many— have a review on a monthly basis for many of— have a review on a monthly basis for many of these measures. mps will get votes on _ many of these measures. mps will get votes on these things. this will come _ votes on these things. this will come in — votes on these things. this will come in on _ votes on these things. this will come in on monday, as has been described — come in on monday, as has been described. mps will continue to authorise — described. mps will continue to authorise all of the actions. can i ask ou authorise all of the actions. can i ask you about — authorise all of the actions. can i ask you about another _ authorise all of the actions. ca�*ii ask you about another important thing being announced today? we are expecting a major announcement on government support later for people affected by the flooding crisis. who will get access to this money? you will get access to this money? you will be helped? _ will get access to this money? you will be helped? yes, we will have to rate -- _ will be helped? yes, we will have to rate -- wait— will be helped? yes, we will have to rate —— wait for the housing secretary. _ rate —— wait for the housing secretary, robertjenrick, to make the statement to parliament later. £1.6 billion has been put in to try to resolve — £1.6 billion has been put in to try to resolve this problem. but we also know _ to resolve this problem. but we also know that _ to resolve this problem. but we also know that the needs are very high. we have _ know that the needs are very high. we have seen what a lot of people, particularly — we have seen what a lot of people, particularly the leaseholders, have said _ particularly the leaseholders, have said i_ particularly the leaseholders, have said. i know the housing secretary is going _ said. i know the housing secretary is going to — said. i know the housing secretary is going to respond to some of that at lunchtime today. we will have to wait to _ at lunchtime today. we will have to wait to hear— at lunchtime today. we will have to wait to hear from you. for at lunchtime today. we will have to wait to hear from you.— wait to hear from you. for some --eole, wait to hear from you. for some people. and _ wait to hear from you. for some people. and we _ wait to hear from you. for some people, and we have _ wait to hear from you. for some people, and we have talked i wait to hear from you. for some people, and we have talked to l wait to hear from you. for some - people, and we have talked to them on this programme, they have been made bankrupt by what has happened. what do you say to them? it's been, you know. _ what do you say to them? it's been, you know, the story of cladding is horrible~ — you know, the story of cladding is horrible. no one will ever forget the scenes from grenfell. and, you know, _ the scenes from grenfell. and, you know. we _ the scenes from grenfell. and, you know, we will absolutely need to make _ know, we will absolutely need to make sure — know, we will absolutely need to make sure as a country that never happens _ make sure as a country that never happens again. and, you know, i've seen, _ happens again. and, you know, i've seen. for— happens again. and, you know, i've seen, for example, leaseholders, which _ seen, for example, leaseholders, which is _ seen, for example, leaseholders, which is a — seen, for example, leaseholders, which is a slightly complicated situation — which is a slightly complicated situation because you have sometimes blocks _ situation because you have sometimes blocks that _ situation because you have sometimes blocks that are owned by leaseholders and by, for example, a housing _ leaseholders and by, for example, a housing association or local authority, and there have been concerns— authority, and there have been concerns that they may be getting left out _ concerns that they may be getting left out of this. again, i know that the housing secretary intends to come _ the housing secretary intends to come to— the housing secretary intends to come to parliament today to talk about _ come to parliament today to talk about that. the prime minister said leaseholders should not be left behind — leaseholders should not be left behind. we will have to wait until lunchtime — behind. we will have to wait until lunchtime to hear more. transport secretary. — lunchtime to hear more. transport secretary, thank _ lunchtime to hear more. transport secretary, thank you _ lunchtime to hear more. transport secretary, thank you sam. -- - lunchtime to hear more. transport secretary, thank you sam. -- for. secretary, thank you sam. -- for our secretary, thank you sam. -- for your time- _ secretary, thank you sam. -- for your time. thanks _ secretary, thank you sam. -- for your time. thanks for _ secretary, thank you sam. -- for your time. thanks for being - secretary, thank you sam. -- for your time. thanks for being with | secretary, thank you sam. -- for. your time. thanks for being with us this morning. carol has been taking a look at the weather. warehouses, carol. that tells you all you need to know for some parts of the uk. morning. to know for some parts of the uk. morninu. . v to know for some parts of the uk. morninu. ., �*, a, morning. that's right. morning. there is some _ morning. that's right. morning. there is some lying _ morning. that's right. morning. there is some lying snow. - morning. that's right. morning. there is some lying snow. i - morning. that's right. morning. there is some lying snow. i willi there is some lying snow. i will show you some snow depths part of the country. the snow has been blowing and drifting as well. the other thing i want to show you is the temperature. —i7. —i7.i. that was at six o'clock this morning out alt on her. the coldest night this winter so far. —— altnaharra. i promised you snow depths. here you are. there still is quite a lot of snow lying around. there will be further snow showers today. this morning we have them across the central lowlands, north—east england, across the south—east. you can see a scattering of them even into northern ireland as we go through the day. they are showers, so not all of us will see them. some will form lines as they have done in recent days. in between there will be sunshine. one thing is it is not going to be quite as windy as it has been. not feeling quite as raw micro. don't be fooled. it is still going to feel cold. up to 2 degrees in cardiff, plymouth and st helier. as we had on through this evening and overnight we continue with wintry showers across the northern isles, part of scotland, some of them coming in across east huntingdon. rain and wintry showers in the south—west. the isobars spaced out. not as windy. look i cold it is going to be with his blue plume right the way across the uk. that is a recipe for a cold night. once again with the risk of ice on untreated surfaces. these temperatures represent towns and cities. imagine what it is going to be like in the countryside. easily we can see once again —17 in the highlands and the grampians. and if this temperature in london, orjust outside london, kew gardens, for example, false 2—9, it will be the first time that has happened for almost a decade. —— falls to —9. a lot of dry weather around tomorrow. a few showers flirting with the east coast. a fair bit of sunshine. that turns hazy from the west as the cloud arrives ahead of some sleet and snow and some rain. a hint of something milder in the south—west. the dizzy heights of two or three degrees. it is still going to feel cold during the course of thursday. as we head into friday, again for most of it is going to be dry. we could see all of the snow, which could see all of the snow, which could be significant at times, coming across north—east scotland. that includes the northern isles. temperatures again hovering above freezing. but if i draw your eyes to the west, 42 puma gran fives in belfast and plymouth because we have a low pressure coming in. —— fours. this is the battle we have been talking about this week between the milder atlantic air and the cold dominant air milder atlantic air and the cold dominantairfrom milder atlantic air and the cold dominant airfrom the milder atlantic air and the cold dominant air from the east. it does look by sunday we are going to see something a bit milder, at least in the west. there is a battle going on out there. . ~ there is a battle going on out there. ., ~' ,, there is a battle going on out there. ., ~' , ., ~' there is a battle going on out there. ., ,, , ., ~ ., there is a battle going on out there. ., ,, i. ~ ., , there is a battle going on out there. ., ,, ~ ., , ., there. thank you. i like a bit of mild. there. thank you. i like a bit of mild- thank— there. thank you. i like a bit of mild. thank you, _ there. thank you. i like a bit of mild. thank you, carol. - there. thank you. i like a bit of mild. thank you, carol. sally, l there. thank you. i like a bit of - mild. thank you, carol. sally, good morninu. mild. thank you, carol. sally, good morning- good _ mild. thank you, carol. sally, good morning. good morning. _ mild. thank you, carol. sally, good morning. good morning. it - mild. thank you, carol. sally, good morning. good morning. it was - mild. thank you, carol. sally, good| morning. good morning. it was very chill last night at old trafford. it was a great game for manchester united in the end because they are into the fa cup quarterfinals for a record a seventh year in a row. the game was marked by the first concussion substitution under the new rules — issa diop taken off after a clash of heads. and in extra time, scott mctominay was perfectly placed to score the only goal of the game. and bournemouth, relegated last season and without a manager, beat premier league burnley. sam surridge and junior stanislas with the goals that took them into the quarter—finals for the first time in 64 years. manchester united women's manager casey stoney says she's disgusted by the online racist abuse the teenage player laurenjames has been subjected to. it's the latest of a string of attacks — james's brother reece, who plays for chelsea, has also been targetted. stoney says it's awful to hear a player say its something theyjust have to ignore it's disgusting, it's utterly disgusting. i think the government and the powers that be need to do so much more to govern these social media platforms. it's gut wrenching for me that she has to face that and thinks it's normal. ijust cannot... ..i cannot get my head around it. venus williams limped off court at the australian open, after her record 2ist appearance in melbourne came to a painful end. she rolled her ankle on her way to losing the first set 6—1 against the italian qualifier sara errani. she was already carrying a knee injury and it looked as though she'd have to retire, but she played on to the end, although she didn't win another game. world number one novak djokovic was really pushed by frances tiafoe in their second—round match — the american took the second set on a tie—break, and defending champion djokovic had to dig deep to come through in four sets. and the hollywood takeover is official — film stars ryan reynolds and rob mcelhenney now have 100% control of wrexham. as well has investing £2 million, the pair have put together a mission statement — part of it being to always beat their great rivals chester. that will get any doubting fans on side. and in true welsh spirit, the pair have changed their twitter names in line with the town. see that? wryan reynolds. we talked about manchester united at the top. they were playing west ham. i didn't mention that. you the top. they were playing west ham. i didn't mention that.— i didn't mention that. you have now thouuh. more than 12 million people have now received their first dose of the coronavirus vaccine, but there are concerns that some people are hesitant about receiving theirjab. now, the nhs is using a new approach to boost the vaccination drive, with the help of some very famous faces. let's take a look. eltonjohn audition, take one. my name is eltonjohn. cut that. a little less showbiz, elton. my name is eltonjohn. a bit more showbiz. my name is eltonjohn. let's go for your michael caine impression. just let's see what it's like. my name is eltonjohn. beautiful. cut there. the more people in society that get vaccinated, the more chance there is of eradicating the national covid pandemic. it's really important to know that the vaccines have all been through, and met, the necessary safety and quality standards. so this is the bit where you're going to have the vaccine now, elton. right. just kind of pretend that you are having the vaccine from a nurse. 0h! what was that, elton? that was me acting. 0k. let's cut that. and as you can see... # i'm still standing, yeah, yeah, yeah.# wow. 0k. thanks, elton. we'll let you know. 0h. well, at this short notice you won't find anyone bigger. thank you. hello, my name is michael caine. i've just had a vaccine for covid. it didn't hurt. not many people know that. and cut that. marvellous. that was fantastic. thank you, michael. 0k. let the little fella no he didn't get the job. the man behind that video is professor lord darzi, a consultant surgeon who returned to front line to help tackle the pandemic. hejoins us now. are they in your phone? how did you get them involved?— get them involved? thank you very much. well. _ get them involved? thank you very much. well, to _ get them involved? thank you very much. well, to be _ get them involved? thank you very much. well, to be honest, - get them involved? thank you very much. well, to be honest, we - get them involved? thank you very much. well, to be honest, we are| much. well, to be honest, we are looking _ much. well, to be honest, we are looking for— much. well, to be honest, we are looking for a — much. well, to be honest, we are looking for a well known, trusted faces _ looking fora well known, trusted faces i_ looking for a well known, trusted faces. i was very grateful that sir elton— faces. i was very grateful that sir elton and — faces. i was very grateful that sir elton and sir michael agreed to do this. elton and sir michael agreed to do this and — elton and sir michael agreed to do this. and as you can see, it is an impactfui— this. and as you can see, it is an impactful video. this. and as you can see, it is an impactfulvideo. it this. and as you can see, it is an impactful video. it is humorous. and at the _ impactful video. it is humorous. and at the same — impactful video. it is humorous. and at the same time the script was brilliant — at the same time the script was brilliant by stephen piper. we are hopeful— brilliant by stephen piper. we are hopeful this will have an impact. although. — hopeful this will have an impact. although, to be fair, in the uk we have _ although, to be fair, in the uk we have done — although, to be fair, in the uk we have done extremely well on the uptake _ have done extremely well on the uptake of— have done extremely well on the uptake of the vaccine, as we all know _ uptake of the vaccine, as we all know i— uptake of the vaccine, as we all know. ., ., ,., . ., know. i wonder about the impact that video has already _ know. i wonder about the impact that video has already had? _ know. i wonder about the impact that video has already had? have - know. i wonder about the impact that video has already had? have you - know. i wonder about the impact that| video has already had? have you seen an effect? i know it is made people laugh. but from your perspective you want to see more people getting the vaccine? , ~ want to see more people getting the vaccine? , . ., ., ., , vaccine? yes. we have done the top four groups — vaccine? yes. we have done the top four groups the _ vaccine? yes. we have done the top four groups. the nhs _ vaccine? yes. we have done the top four groups. the nhs has _ vaccine? yes. we have done the top four groups. the nhs has been - four groups. the nhs has been absolutely unbelievable. if you look at our _ absolutely unbelievable. if you look at our figures, we are the best in the world — at our figures, we are the best in the world i— at our figures, we are the best in the world. i think israel did a little — the world. i think israel did a little bit _ the world. i think israel did a little bit better with a small population. 95% uptake with those above _ population. 95% uptake with those above the — population. 95% uptake with those above the age of 75. but as we go into the _ above the age of 75. but as we go into the younger age groups, we very much _ into the younger age groups, we very much hope _ into the younger age groups, we very much hope this video will have an impact _ much hope this video will have an impact. these are two celebrities, well—known, and their impact goes beyond _ well—known, and their impact goes beyond all— well—known, and their impact goes beyond all age groups. yes, it is in anticipation— beyond all age groups. yes, it is in anticipation as we expand the number of peopie _ anticipation as we expand the number of people having access to vaccine. there _ of people having access to vaccine. there are _ of people having access to vaccine. there are still some concerns about the disparity of vaccine uptake from people within the bame community. what are you doing increasingly going forward to reach those people who, as yet, haven't had the vaccine? i who, as yet, haven't had the vaccine?— who, as yet, haven't had the vaccine? �* ., ., ~ vaccine? i couldn't agree more. and that is a challenge. _ vaccine? i couldn't agree more. and that is a challenge. it _ vaccine? i couldn't agree more. and that is a challenge. it is _ vaccine? i couldn't agree more. and that is a challenge. it is a _ that is a challenge. it is a challenge that has been recognised and is _ challenge that has been recognised and is being acted on. the nhs is working _ and is being acted on. the nhs is working fairly closely with local authorities. we really need to engage — authorities. we really need to engage local leaders, faith leaders, to reassure the bame community that this is— to reassure the bame community that this is the _ to reassure the bame community that this is the only way out of the vaccine — this is the only way out of the vaccine. this is notjust about personal— vaccine. this is notjust about personal protection, but also to protect— personal protection, but also to protect your loved ones, your friends, — protect your loved ones, your friends, your community that you are in. friends, your community that you are in these _ friends, your community that you are in. these messages are very slowly, but we _ in. these messages are very slowly, but we are _ in. these messages are very slowly, but we are getting there working with local — but we are getting there working with local authorities, but it is a critical— with local authorities, but it is a critical point. we very much hope that that — critical point. we very much hope that that will turn around. how much ofthat that that will turn around. how much of that is misinformation? _ that that will turn around. how much of that is misinformation? are - that that will turn around. how much of that is misinformation? are you i of that is misinformation? are you yourself having to counter some of that misinformation from the people that misinformation from the people that you made?— that misinformation from the people that you made? yes, there has been misinformation. _ that you made? yes, there has been misinformation. and _ that you made? yes, there has been misinformation. and to _ that you made? yes, there has been misinformation. and to be _ that you made? yes, there has been misinformation. and to be fair, - that you made? yes, there has been misinformation. and to be fair, onel misinformation. and to be fair, one of the _ misinformation. and to be fair, one of the reasons why we thought about doing _ of the reasons why we thought about doing this _ of the reasons why we thought about doing this a — of the reasons why we thought about doing this a while ago was the misinformation was getting more attention, — misinformation was getting more attention, more attraction. certainiy— attention, more attraction. certainly outside of the us. i mean, i certainly outside of the us. i mean, iiust_ certainly outside of the us. i mean, iiust say— certainly outside of the us. i mean, ijust say this issue is notjust a uk issue. — ijust say this issue is notjust a uk issue, although this video will have _ uk issue, although this video will have a _ uk issue, although this video will have a significant impact in the uk. we reaiiy— have a significant impact in the uk. we really want to embrace this giobaiiy — we really want to embrace this globally. because if we are to tackle — globally. because if we are to tackle this, this virus has no borders, _ tackle this, this virus has no borders, as we know, we have seen the impact — borders, as we know, we have seen the impact of— borders, as we know, we have seen the impact of mutations in different parts _ the impact of mutations in different parts of— the impact of mutations in different parts of the world, so increasingly -- increase — parts of the world, so increasingly —— increase in the uptake of vaccines— —— increase in the uptake of vaccines across the globe is as important _ vaccines across the globe is as important to the uk is increasing the number of people vaccinated in the number of people vaccinated in the uk _ the number of people vaccinated in the uk so— the number of people vaccinated in the uk. so i hope this will have a much _ the uk. so i hope this will have a much greater impact across the globe besides— much greater impact across the globe besides what it might do in the uk. and we _ besides what it might do in the uk. and we are — besides what it might do in the uk. and we are doing very well, as we know _ and we are doing very well, as we know. ~ ., ., , ., , ., know. we mentioned at the start you have one know. we mentioned at the start you have gone back _ know. we mentioned at the start you have gone back to _ know. we mentioned at the start you have gone back to working _ know. we mentioned at the start you have gone back to working on - know. we mentioned at the start you have gone back to working on the - have gone back to working on the front line. you are based at saint micro—maries hospital in paddington. what has that been like? were you surprised by what members of staff are having to go through in terms of the mental toll, in addition to the work they would normally do? absolutely. i certainly volunteered in the _ absolutely. i certainly volunteered in the first — absolutely. i certainly volunteered in the first wave working in the intensive — in the first wave working in the intensive care unit. that was a very difficult _ intensive care unit. that was a very difficult time. the second wave has not been _ difficult time. the second wave has not been easy. in actual fact, it has been — not been easy. in actual fact, it has been even worse. it is palpable, the stress _ has been even worse. it is palpable, the stress it— has been even worse. it is palpable, the stress. it is palpable, the work pressures — the stress. it is palpable, the work pressures. the emotional pressures. in pressures. the emotional pressures. in terms— pressures. the emotional pressures. in terms of— pressures. the emotional pressures. in terms of many of our colleagues working _ in terms of many of our colleagues working in— in terms of many of our colleagues working in the high dependency areas like intensive care, the expansion of intensive — like intensive care, the expansion of intensive care. but everyone, very— of intensive care. but everyone, very professionally, is continuing to do— very professionally, is continuing to do what— very professionally, is continuing to do what they have to do. and certainly— to do what they have to do. and certainly the nurses who have been the hero— certainly the nurses who have been the hero is— certainly the nurses who have been the hero is as far as i am concerned in what _ the hero is as far as i am concerned in what they— the hero is as far as i am concerned in what they are doing, they have been _ in what they are doing, they have been unbelievable. we should all be very proud _ been unbelievable. we should all be very proud of them.— very proud of them. thank you for our time very proud of them. thank you for your time this _ very proud of them. thank you for your time this morning. _ very proud of them. thank you for your time this morning. good - very proud of them. thank you for your time this morning. good to l very proud of them. thank you for i your time this morning. good to talk to you. well done for dragging those two superstars for the advert. i think it has gone down very well. thank you. think it has gone down very well. thank you-— thank you. absolutely brilliant. thank you. absolutely brilliant. thank you- _ it's time now for the latest in our lockdown life series, in which we enlist some expert help to keep ourselves entertained while we're stuck at home. today, we're getting some tips from the olympic snowboarder jennyjones, who made history at the sochi winter games seven years ago. i feel like we need a ifeel like we need a reminder. jennyjones hasjust taken britain's first ever olympic medal on snow. this is the crowning glory to one of britain's finest snow athlete's careers. jennyjoins us now. i know there's been snow in the uk but you are probably missing that deep powder, aren't you?- but you are probably missing that deep powder, aren't you? yeah. i've not had deep powder, aren't you? yeah. i've rrot had any — deep powder, aren't you? yeah. i've not had any snow _ deep powder, aren't you? yeah. i've not had any snow here _ deep powder, aren't you? yeah. i've not had any snow here though - deep powder, aren't you? yeah. i've not had any snow here though at - deep powder, aren't you? yeah. i'vej not had any snow here though at all! brilliant _ not had any snow here though at all! brilliant. you are obviously set up to help us. what can we be doing when we are at home? something i've not to show when we are at home? something i've got to show you _ when we are at home? something i've got to show you guys _ when we are at home? something i've got to show you guys is _ when we are at home? something i've got to show you guys is something - got to show you guys is something that i_ got to show you guys is something that i would do a lot before may be a work-out. — that i would do a lot before may be a work—out, before running, before cyciing. _ a work—out, before running, before cycling, obviously before snowboarding. activating muscles. that is _ snowboarding. activating muscles. that is switching on some of the muscles — that is switching on some of the muscles that would be a bit sleepy. for instance, i've got the dominant guads _ for instance, i've got the dominant guads and — for instance, i've got the dominant quads. and the hamstrings. a lot of peopie _ quads. and the hamstrings. a lot of peopie who — quads. and the hamstrings. a lot of people who sit at desks and stuff that migrate is about waking up those _ that migrate is about waking up those muscles. if you wake them up, then maybe — those muscles. if you wake them up, then maybe do your work—out or your run, then maybe do your work—out or your run. your— then maybe do your work—out or your run, your swim, but doing it a lot more _ run, your swim, but doing it a lot more efficiently or effectively. so more efficiently or effectively. sc you've more efficiently or effectively. you've got more efficiently or effectively. for you've got some exercises more efficiently or effectively. sr you've got some exercises that can open up the neural pathways? this is a very special pre—8 o'clock on bbc breakfast. i a very special pre-8 o'clock on bbc breakfast. , ., ,, , ., breakfast. i will 'ust take you throuuh breakfast. i will 'ust take you through some _ breakfast. i willjust take you through some of _ breakfast. i 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heel behind you like this. a really straight leg. if you can — like this. a really straight leg. if you can see, i am engaging my gluten isand— you can see, i am engaging my gluten isand my— you can see, i am engaging my gluten is and my hamstrings. try to get them _ is and my hamstrings. try to get them to— is and my hamstrings. try to get them to fire. various exercises you can do _ them to fire. various exercises you can do. you've got this position. keeping — can do. you've got this position. keeping your back nice and stable. and again. — keeping your back nice and stable. and again, firing these muscles. might _ and again, firing these muscles. might do — and again, firing these muscles. might do some crabs. this is in this position _ might do some crabs. this is in this position a— might do some crabs. this is in this position. a squad. working through your heels — position. a squad. working through your heels. if you are feeling it, because — your heels. if you are feeling it, because i— your heels. if you are feeling it, because i know, louise, you've done some _ because i know, louise, you've done some snowboarding, you might want to .et some snowboarding, you might want to get some _ some snowboarding, you might want to get some tricks in there. you've got your 180s~ _ get some tricks in there. you've got your 180s. then this. 360. yes! brilliant — your 180s. then this. 360. yes! brilliant. brilliant. you are vc not able to snowboard. have you been surfing? able to snowboard. have you been surfin: ? ., , , surfing? oh, i have been surfing loads. i never _ surfing? oh, i have been surfing loads. i never surf— surfing? oh, i have been surfing loads. i never surf in _ surfing? oh, i have been surfing loads. i never surf in the - surfing? oh, i have been surfing loads. i never surf in the uk - surfing? oh, i have been surfing loads. i never surf in the uk in l surfing? oh, i have been surfing l loads. i never surf in the uk in the winter~ _ loads. i never surf in the uk in the winter~ i_ loads. i never surf in the uk in the winter~ i have _ loads. i never surf in the uk in the winter. i have also been swimming as well. ., ., well. those gluten activation exercises. — well. those gluten activation exercises, anybody - well. those gluten activation exercises, anybody planning | well. those gluten activation i exercises, anybody planning on well. those gluten activation - exercises, anybody planning on going for a run today, the benefit of doing that is it gets us muscles firing up before you work your body? yeah, especially the ones that are sieepy~ _ yeah, especially the ones that are sieepy~ if— yeah, especially the ones that are sleepy. if you don't wake them up... so if your— sleepy. if you don't wake them up... so if your quads are really dominant and you _ so if your quads are really dominant and you go— so if your quads are really dominant and you go straight out for a run, you are _ and you go straight out for a run, you are working the dominant muscles more _ you are working the dominant muscles more if— you are working the dominant muscles more if you _ you are working the dominant muscles more. if you can do some gluten activation. — more. if you can do some gluten activation, doesn't take long. 15 to 20 of— activation, doesn't take long. 15 to 20 of those — activation, doesn't take long. 15 to 20 of those reps. then you are firing _ 20 of those reps. then you are firing your _ 20 of those reps. then you are firing your glutes and hamstrings. it firing your glutes and hamstrings. it will— firing your glutes and hamstrings. it will improve your back as you get an achy— it will improve your back as you get an achy back. you are stabilising the pelvis — an achy back. you are stabilising the pelvis-— the pelvis. already good points. thank you _ the pelvis. already good points. thank you very _ the pelvis. already good points. thank you very much _ the pelvis. already good points. thank you very much indeed. i the pelvis. already good points. | thank you very much indeed. you might be able to tie socks together in a small space if you don't have a band? .,. , , , in a small space if you don't have a band? , , , ., band? exactly. yes, surfing today hoefull . band? exactly. yes, surfing today hopefully- enjoy _ band? exactly. yes, surfing today hopefully. enjoy that. _ band? exactly. yes, surfing today hopefully. enjoy that. thank - band? exactly. yes, surfing today hopefully. enjoy that. thank you. | band? exactly. yes, surfing today| hopefully. enjoy that. thank you. i hopefully. en'oy that. thank you. i miss the hopefully. enjoy that. thank you. i miss the sea- _ hopefully. enjoy that. thank you. i miss the sea. take _ hopefully. enjoy that. thank you. i miss the sea. take care. _ hopefully. enjoy that. thank you. i miss the sea. take care. i've - hopefully. enjoy that. thank you. i. miss the sea. take care. i've always wondered how _ miss the sea. take care. i've always wondered how to _ miss the sea. take care. i've always wondered how to get _ miss the sea. take care. i've always wondered how to get buns - miss the sea. take care. i've always wondered how to get buns of- miss the sea. take care. i've always wondered how to get buns of steel. | wondered how to get buns of steel. that's how you do it. stay with us, headlines coming up. good morning, welcome to breakfast with dan walker and louise minchin. our headlines today. £10,000 fines and ten—year prison sentences — the penalties for breaking travel restrictions. grant shapps tells this programme the strict new measures are necessary. i think the british public would expect pretty strong action. the latest measures are a major blow to an industry battling for survival. airports, airlines and travel agents say the future of some firms have been thrown in to doubt by the latest measures. hundreds of thousands of people living in buildings deemed unsafe since the grenfell tower disaster will find out today how the government plans to help them. good morning. we have had the coldest night of the year so far, -i7.i in coldest night of the year so far, —i7.i in altnaharra. today we see further snow showers, some sunshine in between, not quite as windy but still feeling cold. all the details later in the programme. i believe you have a filter turned on in the video settings. the texas lawyer trapped by a cat—filter on his zoom call — who had to inform a judge that he's not a feline. it's wednesday, the 10th of february. the government has defended harsh new penalties for those breaking new quarantine measures from monday. passengers who break the new rules could face fines of £10,000 and up to ten years in prison, but the transport secretary grant shapps told breakfast the new rules were needed. we're joined by our chief political correspondent, adam fleming, who joins us from westminster. good morning. this is the big story of the morning. what has the reaction been to those announcements? , ~ announcements? yesterday i think eo - le announcements? yesterday i think people were _ announcements? yesterday i think people were quite _ announcements? yesterday i think people were quite surprised - announcements? yesterday i think people were quite surprised first i announcements? yesterday i think| people were quite surprised first of all that the hotel quarantine package will cost £1750 per person, which is a bit more people were expecting. the other thing that let up expecting. the other thing that let up in a statement from health secretary was, as you are saying, the prospect of prison sentences of up the prospect of prison sentences of up to ten years for people who live on their forums about whether they have come from one of the red list countries, where travel is effectively banned from unless you are a british national returning home. some conservative mps and some commentators say that is a way more than you would get at the sentence for sometimes crimes that could be even worse than that. transport secretary grant shapps was defending it on this programme a little bit earlier. the british public would expect pretty strong action. because we are not talking nowjust about, "oh, there's a lot of coronavirus in that country, you might bring some more of it back," when we already have plenty of it here. what we are talking about here are the mutations, the variants, and that is a different matter. he was also asked by you guys about when these measures would be lifted because that is the question lots of conservative mps and lots of people in the travel industry are asking, and i was intrigued by what he said. he said, we will have to wait until everybody in the uk is vaccinated, which could be some time. although he then appeared to backtrack a bit from that and said it was more about the progress of the vaccination policy. even more interestingly, he said it depends on the speed at which other countries are vaccinating their populations, as well. i think people will hear and think foreign travel could be even further off than it felt yesterday. that was certainly one of the takeaways from that interview. good to talk to you, as ever. the government is expected to announce more funding to pay for the removal of unsafe cladding on buildings. thousands of flat owners have faced huge bills for fire safety measures following the grenfell tower disaster. our consumer affairs correspondent sarah corker has been following this closely and she's here now. good morning. the government is under increasing pressure to do more to tackle a cladding crisis. and also to protect flat owners from spiralling costs. ministers have already allocated £1.6 billion to remove dangerous cladding but it is widely acknowledged that that amount just isn't enough. it is estimated it will cost £15 billion to fix the faults. ministers have been grappling with new financial solutions. they will be announced later at around lunchtime. the big questions are, just how much extra funding there will be. it is likely to be millions. how will it be allocated? and also, how will the government determine which eye the highest risk blocks? campaigners who have been living in these flammable flats for years say it is taking far too long. it is more than three and a half years since the grenfell tower fire. a half years since the grenfell towerfire. we a half years since the grenfell tower fire. we spoke to welcome martin, a junior doctor in sheffield, and he told us what he has been going through. —— any money that is released to remediate cladding is welcome, but obviously many of the buildings that have got cladding on have got a whole range of other problems that, until funding for those problems are delivered, then leaseholders still won't be able to sell their properties, they'll still be stuck in unsafe properties. i have a £7,000 a week waking watch on my building. people across the country are crying out for help. it is important to remind you of a bit of the background to all of this. the grenfell tower fire exposed decades of regulatory failure. safety inspections and other high rise blocks exposed not just flammable cladding, but under fire safety faults, as well, so by that i mean defective installation, flammable balconies, is in fire breaks. the longer it takes to fix all of that, flat owners are having to pay for all sorts of things. insurance bills are going up, service charges. they are being asked to pay for fire alarms. you heard will talking about waking watch, round the clock i am willing to patrol these buildings. that is costing some people thousands of pounds. at the height of resolving this crisis is a question of who should pay to fix these faults. governments, developers, building owners, leaseholders? at the moment, leaseholders, flat owners, they are the ones having to pay for this. we will find out what this announcement is, the details to it, from the housing minister at lunchtime around 12:30pm. housing minister at lunchtime around 12:30m. ., ~ housing minister at lunchtime around 12:30m. ., ,, i. senators in the united states have voted to continue donald trump's impeachment trial, after he was accused of inciting the mob which stormed the capitol building last month. the former president's lawyers argued the process was unconstitutional, because he was no longer in office. but six republicansjoined democrats in voting to carry on. if convicted mr trump could be barred from holding office again. there have been a few zoom fails during lockdown, but this could be the biggest catastrophe. a virtual court hearing in the us state of texas where the lawyer accidentally appeared on screen as a wide—eyed, fluffy kitten. mark lobel reports. meet the 69—year—old texan attorney who unintentionally addressed this virtual courtroom, as a cat. mr ponton, i believe you have a filter turned on in the video settings. you might want to... uhh! we're trying to... we're trying... can you hear me, judge? i can hearyou, i think it's a filter. it is, and i don't know how to remove it. i've got my assistant here, she's trying to, but... 0h. i'm prepared to go forward with it. i'm here live, it's not — i'm not a cat. ican... i can see that. court attorney rod ponton pleaded his case of mistaken identity minutes after he logged on from his secretary's computer to defend the state of texas in this civil forfeiture case. everybody's face popped up except mine. mine was a cat. 0h. she had it there, the child had it there. she don't know and i don't know. it just... it just miraculously appeared. after that, the verdict of the judge was to release this normally secretive footage, now seen by millions. i'm here live, i'm not a cat. this latest internet star — who also appears on netflix representing possibly the biggest criminaljustice hoaxer in history — is not the type to let the cat out of the bag. but... you can't put toothpaste back in the tube. you know? if it's got out and it's gone viral, let it go! and that's "fur real"! mark lobel, bbc news. 0h, oh, just absolutely wonderful that they all had a sense of humour about it. these things happen.— it. these things happen. pretty serious business _ it. these things happen. pretty serious business they - it. these things happen. pretty serious business they are - it. these things happen. pretty i serious business they are involved in. hopefully that gives you a slice of some of the lockdown zoom video call pain that we are all experiencing.— call pain that we are all ex-ueriencin. ., ., , ., experiencing. carol is looking at the weather _ experiencing. carol is looking at the weather and _ experiencing. carol is looking at the weather and taking - experiencing. carol is looking at the weather and taking us - experiencing. carol is looking at i the weather and taking us through some really low temperatures stop good morning. last night the temperature fell to minus 17.1 ceisius— temperature fell to minus 17.1 ceisius in— temperature fell to minus 17.1 celsius in altnaharra, making it the coldest _ celsius in altnaharra, making it the coldest night of this winter so far. incidentally the lowest temperature ever recorded in the uk was minus 27.2 ever recorded in the uk was minus 27~2 ceisius — ever recorded in the uk was minus 27.2 celsius and that was shared by altnaharra — 27.2 celsius and that was shared by altnaharra and braemar. still a way to go— altnaharra and braemar. still a way to go and _ altnaharra and braemar. still a way to go and let's hope we don't get their! _ to go and let's hope we don't get their! that— to go and let's hope we don't get their! that is a bit cold. for the rest _ their! that is a bit cold. for the rest of— their! that is a bit cold. for the rest of the _ their! that is a bit cold. for the rest of the week, called for most of us but _ rest of the week, called for most of us but it— rest of the week, called for most of us but it looks as though by a sunday— us but it looks as though by a sunday there is a hint of something milder— sunday there is a hint of something milder coming to the west. today remains _ milder coming to the west. today remains cold with further wintry showers — remains cold with further wintry showers like the last few days, some forming _ showers like the last few days, some forming bands where they will continue — forming bands where they will continue on and off through the course — continue on and off through the course of— continue on and off through the course of the day. they are showers so a lot _ course of the day. they are showers so a lot of— course of the day. they are showers so a lot of people will miss them and we _ so a lot of people will miss them and we will have some winter sunshine _ and we will have some winter sunshine. winds are light yesterday but look— sunshine. winds are light yesterday but took at — sunshine. winds are light yesterday but look at the temperatures, nothing — but look at the temperatures, nothing to be writing home about, nothing to be writing home about, not even _ nothing to be writing home about, not even breaking freezing in newcastle, edinburgh and glasgow. overnight, wintry showers in parts of the _ overnight, wintry showers in parts of the north—east and the east. also this little _ of the north—east and the east. also this little line across the south—west. look how widely spaced those _ south—west. look how widely spaced those isobars are cat lake loot piume — those isobars are cat lake loot plume across the uk, a recipe for cold weather. these temperatures represent — cold weather. these temperatures represent what you can expect in towns _ represent what you can expect in towns and — represent what you can expect in towns and cities so —7 in newcastle and birmingham, —8 in london. in rurai— and birmingham, —8 in london. in rural areas. — and birmingham, —8 in london. in rural areas, they could be lower. -10 in _ rural areas, they could be lower. -10 in east — rural areas, they could be lower. —10 in east anglia and also across the highlands and grampian. cold start tomorrow, risk of ice. again, a iot— start tomorrow, risk of ice. again, a lot of— start tomorrow, risk of ice. again, a lot of sunshine around. still a peppering — a lot of sunshine around. still a peppering of wintry showers in the east, _ peppering of wintry showers in the east. and — peppering of wintry showers in the east, and when the sunshine turns hazy in _ east, and when the sunshine turns hazy in the — east, and when the sunshine turns hazy in the west, some sleet and snow— hazy in the west, some sleet and snow and — hazy in the west, some sleet and snow and rain arrive but which is not quite — snow and rain arrive but which is not quite as— snow and rain arrive but which is not quite as low here.— snow and rain arrive but which is not quite as low here. thank you very much _ not quite as low here. thank you very much for— not quite as low here. thank you very much for that. _ not quite as low here. thank you very much for that. we - not quite as low here. thank you very much for that. we will- not quite as low here. thank you very much for that. we will see i not quite as low here. thank you i very much for that. we will see you in half an hourfor even more detail on the minus temperatures. facing cancer treatment can be a scary and difficult time for anyone, but during the coronavirus pandemic many young people have had to face attending their appointments alone. the regulations currently vary across different health trusts, but now two charities have written to ministers across all four nations of the uk asking them to change their approach. jim reed has this report. 21—year—old daniela alves is a make—up artist and dancer. in september, she was told she had a rare blood cancer. being a make—up artist, ijust thought, like, my hair's going to fall off. like, that wasjust, like, everything for me. and i feel like all the worst thoughts just went through my head. the pandemic has made the last year that much tougher for young people already dealing with a diagnosis of cancer. restrictions on hospital visits meant daniela had to go to appointments and treatments by herself. no—one knows you like your mum or a family member. it was just very, very scary. like, there were times where i'd find myself crying my eyes out, basically, because i wanted a hand to hold. every year, around 4,000 children and young people in the uk receive a cancer diagnosis. today, two medical charities have written to ministers asking them to commit to young people that they should not have to hear the news they have cancer — or face their treatments — alone. it would make an enormous difference to young people's lives just to have somebody with you a most difficult time with your cancer treatment, and the most difficult time during the global pandemic — to have somebody who you know, and who knows you. is—year—old mikaela forrester had to go to hospital on her own for a stem—cell transplant. nhs england guidance does say patients like her should be able to have family supporting them. but cancer charities say, too often, that is simply not happening. it would have made, like, a huge difference if my mum could have been there cos there were days when i was up at, like, six in the morning and they were having loads of tests done and it was just really scary and i just wanted my mum to be there, but she obviously couldn't. the government says it knows the pandemic is particularly difficult for people like mikaela and daniela. it says it is committed to making hospital visits possible, while managing the risk of infection. jim reed, bbc news. we're nowjoined by daniela alves, who underwent cancer treatment last year, and her best friend abby williams. thanks, both, so much forjoining us. thanks, both, so much for 'oining us. , , thanks, both, so much for 'oining us.— daniela. h thanks, both, so much forjoining us.- daniela, really- thanks, both, so much forjoining| us.- daniela, really tough us. hi, guys. daniela, really tough time. us. hi, guys. daniela, really tough time- how— us. hi, guys. daniela, really tough time. how much _ us. hi, guys. daniela, really tough time. how much difference - us. hi, guys. daniela, really tough time. how much difference does i us. hi, guys. daniela, really tough time. how much difference does it make being able to have a friend going in with you to treatments? it going in with you to treatments? it makes a huge difference. i found myself— makes a huge difference. i found myself at — makes a huge difference. i found myself at my worst point whilst i was admitted into hospital and i feel like. — was admitted into hospital and i feel like, at that point, you are 'ust feel like, at that point, you are just so— feel like, at that point, you are just so distraught and in a world of chaos— just so distraught and in a world of chaos that — just so distraught and in a world of chaos that you don't know how to get yourself _ chaos that you don't know how to get yourself out — chaos that you don't know how to get yourself out of. you need a hand to hold. _ yourself out of. you need a hand to hold. that — yourself out of. you need a hand to hold, that support and someone to tell you _ hold, that support and someone to tell you it's— hold, that support and someone to tell you it's going to be ok, there are brighter days ahead and it made the world _ are brighter days ahead and it made the world of difference when i could have abby— the world of difference when i could have abby with me.— the world of difference when i could have abby with me. abby, th, koh is tellin: us have abby with me. abby, th, koh is telling us that _ have abby with me. abby, th, koh is telling us that the _ have abby with me. abby, th, koh is telling us that the difference - have abby with me. abby, th, koh is telling us that the difference it - telling us that the difference it made to her. i imagine it was important for you to do that, as well —— daniela is telling us. important for you to do that, as well -- daniela is telling us. yeah, she was so — well -- daniela is telling us. yeah, she was so low. _ well -- daniela is telling us. yeah, she was so low. the _ well -- daniela is telling us. yeah, she was so low. the doctors - well -- daniela is telling us. yeah, she was so low. the doctors were l she was so low. the doctors were trying to give her she was so low. the doctors were trying to give he— trying to give her everything. sometimes _ trying to give her everything. sometimes you _ trying to give her everything. sometimes you need - trying to give her everything. i sometimes you need someone trying to give her everything. - sometimes you need someone there trying to give her everything. _ sometimes you need someone there to ask, sometimes you need someone there to ask. can _ sometimes you need someone there to ask. can she _ sometimes you need someone there to ask. can she have — sometimes you need someone there to ask, can she have more _ sometimes you need someone there to ask, can she have more of— sometimes you need someone there to ask, can she have more of this, - sometimes you need someone there to ask, can she have more of this, of- ask, can she have more of this, of that? _ ask, can she have more of this, of that? there — ask, can she have more of this, of that? there were _ ask, can she have more of this, of that? there were times _ ask, can she have more of this, of that? there were times when - ask, can she have more of this, of that? there were times when she| ask, can she have more of this, of- that? there were times when she was so ill that? there were times when she was so iii and _ that? there were times when she was so ill and couldn't _ that? there were times when she was so ill and couldn't do _ that? there were times when she was so ill and couldn't do anything - that? there were times when she was so ill and couldn't do anything for- so ill and couldn't do anything for herself— so ill and couldn't do anything for herself and — so ill and couldn't do anything for herself and as _ so ill and couldn't do anything for herself and as amazing _ so ill and couldn't do anything for herself and as amazing as - so ill and couldn't do anything for herself and as amazing as the - herself and as amazing as the hospital— herself and as amazing as the hospital staff— herself and as amazing as the hospital staff are _ herself and as amazing as the hospital staff are there - herself and as amazing as the hospital staff are there is - herself and as amazing as the - hospital staff are there is nothing like a _ hospital staff are there is nothing like a friend — hospital staff are there is nothing like a friend to _ hospital staff are there is nothing like a friend to hold _ hospital staff are there is nothing like a friend to hold your - hospital staff are there is nothing like a friend to hold your hand - hospital staff are there is nothing i like a friend to hold your hand and tell you _ like a friend to hold your hand and tell you everything _ like a friend to hold your hand and tell you everything is _ like a friend to hold your hand and tell you everything is ok. - like a friend to hold your hand and tell you everything is ok. it- like a friend to hold your hand and tell you everything is ok. if is - tell you everything is ok. it is about support. _ tell you everything is ok. about support, emotionally, tell you everything is ok.- about support, emotionally, but tell you everything is ok— about support, emotionally, but also information, as well. you need somebody to take notes for you, don't you, abby? somebody to take notes for you, don't you. abby?— somebody to take notes for you, don't you, abby? absolutely. there were so many _ don't you, abby? absolutely. there were so many times _ don't you, abby? absolutely. there were so many times when - don't you, abby? absolutely. there were so many times when daniela l don't you, abby? absolutely. there i were so many times when daniela was unable _ were so many times when daniela was unabie to— were so many times when daniela was unabie to do— were so many times when daniela was unable to do anything _ were so many times when daniela was unable to do anything for— were so many times when daniela was unable to do anything for herself - unable to do anything for herself and she — unable to do anything for herself and she needed _ unable to do anything for herself and she needed us— unable to do anything for herself and she needed us there - unable to do anything for herself and she needed us there to- unable to do anything for herself and she needed us there to tell. unable to do anything for herself - and she needed us there to tell her, to give _ and she needed us there to tell her, to give her— and she needed us there to tell her, to give herthe— and she needed us there to tell her, to give her the definition _ and she needed us there to tell her, to give her the definition of- and she needed us there to tell her, to give her the definition of what - to give her the definition of what the pills— to give her the definition of what the pills were _ to give her the definition of what the pills were four— to give her the definition of what the pills were four and _ to give her the definition of what the pills were four and went - to give her the definition of what the pills were four and went to i to give her the definition of what i the pills were four and went to take them _ the pills were four and went to take them the — the pills were four and went to take them. the little — the pills were four and went to take them. the little reminders- the pills were four and went to take them. the little reminders of- the pills were four and went to take | them. the little reminders of things you need _ them. the little reminders of things you need to — them. the little reminders of things you need to do _ them. the little reminders of things you need to do when _ them. the little reminders of things you need to do when you _ them. the little reminders of things you need to do when you are - them. the little reminders of things you need to do when you are so - you need to do when you are so poorly — you need to do when you are so .oorl . ., you need to do when you are so oorl. ., ,., you need to do when you are so oorl. ., i. ., you need to do when you are so oorl. ., ., ., ., poorly. daniela, you are fortunate to have abby _ poorly. daniela, you are fortunate to have abby their _ poorly. daniela, you are fortunate to have abby their youtube - poorly. daniela, you are fortunate to have abby their youtube hold l poorly. daniela, you are fortunate . to have abby their youtube hold your hand and do some of those things she was telling us about. many people don't have that. the thought of going through what you have gone through without someone like abby, that can be scary. idem; through without someone like abby, that can be scary-— that can be scary. very daunting. i don't know— that can be scary. very daunting. i don't know how _ that can be scary. very daunting. i don't know how i _ that can be scary. very daunting. i don't know how i would _ that can be scary. very daunting. i don't know how i would have - that can be scary. very daunting. i don't know how i would have got i don't know how i would have got through— don't know how i would have got through cancer and treatment alone without— through cancer and treatment alone without a _ through cancer and treatment alone without a hand to hold. just someone to distract _ without a hand to hold. just someone to distract you from everything that is going _ to distract you from everything that is going on — to distract you from everything that is going on. you have so many thoughts — is going on. you have so many thoughts in _ is going on. you have so many thoughts in your head, the doctors are telling — thoughts in your head, the doctors are telling you a million things to be able _ are telling you a million things to be able to— are telling you a million things to be able to process it all alone is very— be able to process it all alone is very hard. — be able to process it all alone is very hard, so it is always so helpful— very hard, so it is always so helpful to _ very hard, so it is always so helpful to have someone beside you 'ust helpful to have someone beside you just to _ helpful to have someone beside you just to absorb that information also _ just to absorb that information also. , ., , ., just to absorb that information also. , ., , also. the priority here, daniela, is for our also. the priority here, daniela, is for your safety. — also. the priority here, daniela, is for your safety, so _ also. the priority here, daniela, is for your safety, so you _ also. the priority here, daniela, is for your safety, so you are - also. the priority here, daniela, is for your safety, so you are going i also. the priority here, daniela, is| for your safety, so you are going to be ok. presumably there were lots of precautions when abby was able to come in with you.— come in with you. yeah, so it was very- -- i — come in with you. yeah, so it was very--- i mean. — come in with you. yeah, so it was very... i mean, there _ come in with you. yeah, so it was very... i mean, there is— come in with you. yeah, so it was very... i mean, there is occasions when _ very... i mean, there is occasions when she — very... i mean, there is occasions when she was— very... i mean, there is occasions when she was able to come in when i was admitted to so i think it was only once — was admitted to so i think it was only once or twice and during those days when— only once or twice and during those days when she did come in, i was 'ust days when she did come in, i was just crying — days when she did come in, i was just crying my eyes out because i was like. — just crying my eyes out because i was like, oh, my god, someone is here— was like, oh, my god, someone is here with— was like, oh, my god, someone is here with me! and when i was treated as an _ here with me! and when i was treated as an outpatient she was able to come _ as an outpatient she was able to come with— as an outpatient she was able to come with me, so i was able to have one person _ come with me, so i was able to have one person with me at all times when i one person with me at all times when i -o one person with me at all times when i go in _ one person with me at all times when i go in as— one person with me at all times when i go in as an _ one person with me at all times when i go in as an outpatient to the hospital— i go in as an outpatient to the hospital and every time it was just a hell— hospital and every time it was just a hell of— hospital and every time it was just a hell of a — hospital and every time it was just a hell of a lot different. she was able to— a hell of a lot different. she was able to come and bring me breakfast, lunch. _ able to come and bring me breakfast, lunch, dinner, stay with me, watch a film with— lunch, dinner, stay with me, watch a film with me — lunch, dinner, stay with me, watch a film with me and it isjust so much better— film with me and it isjust so much better because you are consumed in an environment that is so daunting and it— an environment that is so daunting and it is— an environment that is so daunting and it is quite scary and sad and you reaiiy— and it is quite scary and sad and you reallyjust need that someone there _ you reallyjust need that someone there to _ you reallyjust need that someone there to keep your spirits high. so there to keep your spirits high. sc many there to keep your spirits high. many of our there to keep your spirits high. sr many of our viewers will be encouraged by your lovely friendship this morning and what it means to the pair of you. how far back does it go, where you school friends? yeah, we met when we were 16 and that's— yeah, we met when we were 16 and that's been— yeah, we met when we were 16 and that's been it! — yeah, we met when we were 16 and that's been it!— that's been it! best buddies ever since. that's been it! best buddies ever since- what _ that's been it! best buddies ever since. what film _ that's been it! best buddies ever since. what film did _ that's been it! best buddies ever since. what film did you - that's been it! best buddies ever since. what film did you watch i that's been it! best buddies ever i since. what film did you watch that put a smile on your face that helps you when you needed it? filth. put a smile on your face that helps you when you needed it? oh, that's a aood you when you needed it? oh, that's a good question- _ you when you needed it? oh, that's a good question. me _ you when you needed it? oh, that's a good question. me and _ you when you needed it? oh, that's a good question. me and abby - you when you needed it? oh, that's a good question. me and abbyjust - good question. me and abbyjust watch. _ good question. me and abbyjust watch, like, police series on sky. i can't _ watch, like, police series on sky. i can't remember what it was called but it— can't remember what it was called but it was— can't remember what it was called but it was some stupid thing but it made _ but it was some stupid thing but it made us _ but it was some stupid thing but it made us happy. but it was some stupid thing but it made us happy-— but it was some stupid thing but it made us happy. abby, you must feel lovel to made us happy. abby, you must feel lovely to be — made us happy. abby, you must feel lovely to be able _ made us happy. abby, you must feel lovely to be able to _ made us happy. abby, you must feel lovely to be able to do _ made us happy. abby, you must feel lovely to be able to do that - made us happy. abby, you must feel lovely to be able to do that for- lovely to be able to do that for your best friend.— lovely to be able to do that for your best friend. yeah, sitting back and watching _ your best friend. yeah, sitting back and watching her— your best friend. yeah, sitting back and watching her go _ your best friend. yeah, sitting back and watching her go through - your best friend. yeah, sitting back and watching her go through it - your best friend. yeah, sitting back. and watching her go through it alone was never— and watching her go through it alone was never going _ and watching her go through it alone was never going to _ and watching her go through it alone was never going to be _ and watching her go through it alone was never going to be an— and watching her go through it alone was never going to be an option. - was never going to be an option. since _ was never going to be an option. since the — was never going to be an option. since the first _ was never going to be an option. since the first day— was never going to be an option. since the first day i— was never going to be an option. since the first day i even - was never going to be an option. since the first day i even saw- was never going to be an option. j since the first day i even saw the lumps— since the first day i even saw the lumps when— since the first day i even saw the lumps when they _ since the first day i even saw the lumps when they appeared, - since the first day i even saw the lumps when they appeared, it i since the first day i even saw thel lumps when they appeared, it has been _ lumps when they appeared, it has been worrying _ lumps when they appeared, it has been worrying. she _ lumps when they appeared, it has been worrying. she was _ lumps when they appeared, it has been worrying. she was never- lumps when they appeared, it has i been worrying. she was never going to be _ been worrying. she was never going to be alone — been worrying. she was never going to be alone through _ been worrying. she was never going to be alone through it. _ been worrying. she was never going to be alone through it. a _ been worrying. she was never going to be alone through it. a huge - been worrying. she was never going| to be alone through it. a huge group of friends. _ to be alone through it. a huge group of friends, everyone _ to be alone through it. a huge group of friends, everyone has _ to be alone through it. a huge group of friends, everyone has supported i of friends, everyone has supported herself— of friends, everyone has supported herself well~ — of friends, everyone has supported herself well-— herself well. daniela, how are you doin: at herself well. daniela, how are you doing at the _ herself well. daniela, how are you doing at the moment? _ herself well. daniela, how are you doing at the moment? i'm - herself well. daniela, how are you doing at the moment? i'm very i herself well. daniela, how are you i doing at the moment? i'm very well, recovering- — doing at the moment? i'm very well, recovering- l'm _ doing at the moment? i'm very well, recovering. i'm feeling _ doing at the moment? i'm very well, recovering. i'm feeling so _ doing at the moment? i'm very well, recovering. i'm feeling so much i recovering. i'm feeling so much better— recovering. i'm feeling so much better and _ recovering. i'm feeling so much better and being patient with my body and — better and being patient with my body and myself as a human, so i am well _ body and myself as a human, so i am well. ., �* . body and myself as a human, so i am well. ., �*, ., , ., ., well. that's lovely to hear. daniela. — well. that's lovely to hear. daniela, abby, _ well. that's lovely to hear. daniela, abby, thank i well. that's lovely to hear. daniela, abby, thank you | well. that's lovely to hear. i daniela, abby, thank you very well. that's lovely to hear. - daniela, abby, thank you very much indeed, i hope you get to watch more movies together soon, that's great. we can speak now to dr louise soanes, who is the chief nurse at the teenage cancer trust. you really get a sense, talking to those too of how important this is for people. those too of how important this is for people-— those too of how important this is for people. absolutely, i think the stories that _ for people. absolutely, i think the stories that daniela _ for people. absolutely, i think the stories that daniela and _ for people. absolutely, i think the stories that daniela and abby i for people. absolutely, i think the | stories that daniela and abby have described itjust illustrates how important it is for people to have a hand to hold during their cancer treatment at such a difficult time. covid is adding layers of stress and confusion to that. without that person with them, those young people are hearing difficult conversations and going through a really difficult time on their own and that is really hard for these young people to cope with at this time. tensile hard for these young people to cope with at this time.— hard for these young people to cope with at this time. we note that huge efforts are being _ with at this time. we note that huge efforts are being made _ with at this time. we note that huge efforts are being made to _ with at this time. we note that huge efforts are being made to keep i efforts are being made to keep everyone safe and that is really important, but is there a delicate balance here?— balance here? absolutely. we completely — balance here? absolutely. we completely understand - balance here? absolutely. we completely understand the i balance here? absolutely. we - completely understand the enormous pressure the nhs and health care teams are under at the moment but we are hearing stories of some trusts that are helping young people to have somebody with them during their cancer treatment and we are hearing stories where others are not able to do that. we would really like the trusts that can do this to share their experience and best practice and share that with other trusts so we can enable all young people going through cancer treatment at the moment to have somebody with them during that treatment, to be there to support them both emotionally and physically. it is to support them both emotionally and -h sicall. . ., , to support them both emotionally and -h sicall. , ., , ., physically. it is really important. thank you _ physically. it is really important. thank you very _ physically. it is really important. thank you very much _ physically. it is really important. thank you very much indeed, i physically. it is really important. thank you very much indeed, dr| thank you very much indeed, dr louise soane, thank you. thank you. how are you doing in the cold at the — thank you. how are you doing in the cold at the moment? _ thank you. how are you doing in the cold at the moment? carol- thank you. how are you doing in the cold at the moment? carol has i thank you. how are you doing in the j cold at the moment? carol has been talking about desperately low temperatures and it has meant normal lockdown activities have been largely enjoyed by most people. but for so—caled bareskin runners, the chilly temperatures are exactly what's needed. it involves exposing the body to the cold while running or walking and, like cold water swimming, is said to have health benefits. the man behind it all is 61—year—old dutch adventurer wim hof. let's take a look at him and a few others in action. this is the iceman — wim hof. the 61—year—old dutch extreme athlete complete freezing feats and has earned himself an army of followers. he holds the record for a barefoot half—marathon on ice and snow. but it's notjust wim that's been embracing the cold recently. jamie murray, joe wicks and reverend kate botley have also been daring the icy cold temperatures this winter — including taking an ice bath or even making snow angels. and if you don't have your own ice bath, then some — like ben fogle — are taking to bareskin running and exposing their skin to the cold air while running or exercising. this is what i do. i like to get out into the cold as much as i can. it is important that bareskin exercisers build up resistance to the cold in the same way that outdoor swimmers would — there's a risk of hypothermia and frostbite if too much is done too soon. and doctors say you should also approach with caution if you have a heart condition. there you go. and wim joins us now along with broadcaster ben fogle, who's a fan of bareskin running. hopefully at some stage. thank you so much. great to speak to you on the programme, wim.— so much. great to speak to you on the programme, wim. yes, thank you for havin: the programme, wim. yes, thank you for having made. _ the programme, wim. yes, thank you for having made. pleasure. _ the programme, wim. yes, thank you for having made. pleasure. from i the programme, wim. yes, thank you for having made. pleasure. from yourj for having made. pleasure. from your perspective. — for having made. pleasure. from your perspective. you _ for having made. pleasure. from your perspective, you have _ for having made. pleasure. from your perspective, you have done _ for having made. pleasure. from your perspective, you have done this i for having made. pleasure. from your perspective, you have done this for. perspective, you have done this for a long time, the benefits of bareskin running. the a long time, the benefits of bareskin running. a long time, the benefits of bareskin runninu. ., bareskin running. the boost for the immune system — bareskin running. the boost for the immune system is _ bareskin running. the boost for the immune system is really _ bareskin running. the boost for the immune system is really there. i bareskin running. the boost for the immune system is really there. we j immune system is really there. we did the _ immune system is really there. we did the science on this so there is no speculation about it. cold is danger~ — no speculation about it. cold is danger. danger is stress. and we are able to— danger. danger is stress. and we are able to cope — danger. danger is stress. and we are able to cope with stress, the danger~ _ able to cope with stress, the danger. and what else is danger? bacteria. — danger. and what else is danger? bacteria, virus, emotional stress. it is bacteria, virus, emotional stress. it is all _ bacteria, virus, emotional stress. it is all danger, but because we live so— it is all danger, but because we live so much in the comfort zone, that is— live so much in the comfort zone, that is why— live so much in the comfort zone, that is why we get vulnerable. we never _ that is why we get vulnerable. we never test — that is why we get vulnerable. we never test ourselves in stress, in danger. — never test ourselves in stress, in danger. in — never test ourselves in stress, in danger, in the cold. it shows that a human— danger, in the cold. it shows that a human is able to cope with that, gradually— human is able to cope with that, gradually going into that, within ten days— gradually going into that, within ten days of the cardiovascular system — ten days of the cardiovascular system improves dramatically and with that — system improves dramatically and with that the blood flow goes way up, with that the blood flow goes way up. much — with that the blood flow goes way up, much better, reaching out to cells _ up, much better, reaching out to cells with— up, much better, reaching out to cells with all the nutrients and the heart _ cells with all the nutrients and the heart rate — cells with all the nutrients and the heart rate goes down. the vascular system _ heart rate goes down. the vascular system contains millions of little muscles — system contains millions of little muscles and they are trained and stimulated by going into the cold. you have — stimulated by going into the cold. you have sold it! let's speak to someone who has bought it. ben, how disappointing, you are wearing a skype! you are a fan of this bareskin running. how often do you do it and why?i bareskin running. how often do you do it and why?— do it and why? i completely believe what wim was _ do it and why? i completely believe what wim was saying _ do it and why? i completely believe what wim was saying just _ do it and why? i completely believe what wim was saying just then. i i what wim was saying just then. i have _ what wim was saying just then. i have read — what wim was saying just then. i have read all his books, been a fan for many— have read all his books, been a fan for many years. i have been cold water _ for many years. i have been cold water swimming fora for many years. i have been cold water swimming for a long time now we are _ water swimming for a long time now we are in— water swimming for a long time now we are in lockdown and i don't have access— we are in lockdown and i don't have access every— we are in lockdown and i don't have access every day to cold i have decided — access every day to cold i have decided to start the bareskin running _ decided to start the bareskin running and i do it probably every other— running and i do it probably every other day— running and i do it probably every other day or so. i don't really want to scare _ other day or so. i don't really want to scare the — other day or so. i don't really want to scare the neighbours! laughter i really found it totally changes my total metabolism, changes my mood, it feels— total metabolism, changes my mood, it feels like _ total metabolism, changes my mood, it feels like i am much more connected, much closer to the landscape _ connected, much closer to the landscape around us and as much as i bundled _ landscape around us and as much as i bundled up _ landscape around us and as much as i bundled up now because i'm standing in the _ bundled up now because i'm standing in the slightly cold weather, i really — in the slightly cold weather, i really think it helps with my immune system. _ really think it helps with my immune system. as— really think it helps with my immune system, as well in a moment we will speak— system, as well in a moment we will speak to _ system, as well in a moment we will speak to a _ system, as well in a moment we will speak to a cardiologist about the health— speak to a cardiologist about the health issues around this but if someone — health issues around this but if someone is watching this, has listened — someone is watching this, has listened to ben about what it has done. _ listened to ben about what it has done, what is step one? where should you start _ done, what is step one? where should you start if— done, what is step one? where should you start if you are interested in taking _ you start if you are interested in taking this — you start if you are interested in taking this up? | you start if you are interested in taking this up?— you start if you are interested in taking this up? i would say, go into a cold shower— taking this up? i would say, go into a cold shower for _ taking this up? i would say, go into a cold shower for 30 _ taking this up? i would say, go into a cold shower for 30 seconds i taking this up? i would say, go into a cold shower for 30 seconds to i a cold shower for 30 seconds to begin with and then every day, 30 seconds more and within ten days your body is optimised, the vascular system is optimised and then you are really able to go out and find the pleasure, the power, and the deepening of your physiology in your experience and it is amazing because it brings down inflammation and it regulates the mood. you learnt to cope with stress, and with that you learn so much more natural capacities from the inside. the cold is a great teacher.— is a great teacher. wim, you are a real fan, is a great teacher. wim, you are a real fan. as _ is a great teacher. wim, you are a real fan. as we — is a great teacher. wim, you are a real fan, as we know, _ is a great teacher. wim, you are a realfan, as we know, and - is a great teacher. wim, you are a real fan, as we know, and you i is a great teacher. wim, you are a | realfan, as we know, and you love it here that you would love it here because it is suitably cold. ben, any tips? you are quite new to it, you say don't scare the neighbours, what would you say to people? start small. what would you say to people? start small- don't — what would you say to people? start small- don't go _ what would you say to people? start small. don't go off— what would you say to people? start small. don't go off on _ what would you say to people? start small. don't go off on a _ what would you say to people? start small. don't go off on a great hour-long _ small. don't go off on a great hour—long run without a shirt at all. i_ hour—long run without a shirt at all. ithink— hour—long run without a shirt at all. i think you need to be sensible about— all. i think you need to be sensible about building up your immunity. what _ about building up your immunity. what wim — about building up your immunity. what wim was saying about starting with cold _ what wim was saying about starting with cold showers, getting that sensation of cold and your body. it takes _ sensation of cold and your body. it takes getting used to but you really feel alive! _ takes getting used to but you really feelalive! small steps, takes getting used to but you really feel alive! small steps, maybe takes getting used to but you really feelalive! small steps, maybe start with a _ feelalive! small steps, maybe start with a couple of minutes, even, just to see _ with a couple of minutes, even, just to see how— with a couple of minutes, even, just to see how it — with a couple of minutes, even, just to see how it feels, and slowly build _ to see how it feels, and slowly build up — to see how it feels, and slowly build up from there.— to see how it feels, and slowly build up from there. goodness me! ben fogle. — build up from there. goodness me! ben fogle, thank _ build up from there. goodness me! ben fogle, thank you, _ build up from there. goodness me! ben fogle, thank you, wim, - build up from there. goodness me! ben fogle, thank you, wim, thank| build up from there. goodness me! i ben fogle, thank you, wim, thank you for speaking to us here on breakfast laughter yesi, laughter yes! ,! laughter yes!,! it's a good time to laughter yes! ,! it's a good time to try but there are health issues to consider. lets you tug about people you shouldn't try this. we're joined by cardiologist dr susan connolly. we had about the benefits and he didn't say it started slowly, what would your advice be, first on the bareskin running, for example? look. bareskin running, for example? look, i am a preventative _ bareskin running, for example? lorri... i am a preventative cardiologist so i am a preventative cardiologist so i am a fan of physical activity, so many health benefits. but you do have to do it in a safe fashion and what ben was saying is absolutely right, don'tjustjump into this. the initial exposure to cold is the danger period because that is when you get this very strong physiological response if your body is induced cold. your skin receptors, the blood flow goes away from your skin, into the deep core of your body, your blood pressure goes up, your heart rate goes up, and if you have underlying heart disease which you may not know about thatis disease which you may not know about that is the time that arrhythmias can occur and you can have sudden death. if you are young and fit, fine, but if you are older, you know, you need to think about what you are doing here.— know, you need to think about what you are doing here. absolutely. they were both saying. — you are doing here. absolutely. they were both saying, you _ you are doing here. absolutely. they were both saying, you don't - you are doing here. absolutely. they were both saying, you don't take i were both saying, you don't take this on a slowly. is it important to warm up afterwards, what would your advice be? ., ., , , , advice be? yeah, absolutely. it is not 'ust advice be? yeah, absolutely. it is rrot just about _ advice be? yeah, absolutely. it is notjust about beforehand, i advice be? yeah, absolutely. it is notjust about beforehand, it i advice be? yeah, absolutely. it is notjust about beforehand, it is i notjust about beforehand, it is also afterwards. certainly if you are cold water swimming you need to get out, get into dry clothes, getting to your car, have a warm drink, something to eat, and make sure you stay warm for about two hours afterwards. there is less known about barefaced... bareskin running! it is a new one to me, there is much more data around cold water swimming but similar applies to bareskin running. preparation beforehand and afterwards is important to beforehand and afterwards is im-rortan ., . ~' ., beforehand and afterwards is imeuortan ., ., ~' ., ., ~' beforehand and afterwards is im-rortan ., . ~' ., ., ,, important to talk to you, thank you ve much important to talk to you, thank you very much indeed. _ important to talk to you, thank you very much indeed. perfect - important to talk to you, thank you | very much indeed. perfect weather! important to talk to you, thank you i very much indeed. perfect weather! i am going swimming later. laughter i say that. until i get in, it may change you wear a full wet suit to. but it is 1! degrees! stiiiii change you wear a full wet suit to. but it is 4 degrees!— but it is 4 degrees! still chilly. lets us know _ but it is 4 degrees! still chilly. lets us know what _ but it is 4 degrees! still chilly. lets us know what you - but it is 4 degrees! still chilly. lets us know what you think. | time now to get the news, travel and weather where you are. good morning from bbc london, i'm tolu adeoye. parts of south london have become the latest places in the capital to see additional testing, after a case of the south african variant of covid—i9 was identified. residents in streatham, gipsy hill and west norwood are being encouraged to get a test whether they are showing symptoms or not. it comes after door—to—door testing was introduced yesterday in ealing after the variant was discovered there as well. new figures show dog thefts have risen with criminals capitalising on a rise in demand for puppies during the pandemic. the charity dog lost says reported thefts in the south—east rose by more than a fifth in 2020. police are advising people to be careful when posting pictures of new puppies on social media, and double check where their pets are coming from. london's key workers have been at the forefront of this pandemic, as we know, particularly those working in the nhs. rob, who's a doctor, hasn't seen his mum for almost a year. the family hope with a successful vaccine roll—out there'll be a reunion not far off. oh, i'll give her the biggest hug, the biggest kiss. i don't think i'd let her go for about an hour, two, maybe?! i just think about all those people who haven't seen their loved ones and are working in the throes of it all. _ he isjust such an important part of my life. i miss him so much. let's take a look at the travel situation now. there are minor delays on the hammersmith and city line — all other services are running well. if we take a look at the roads now, it's very slow on the a2 near bexleyheath into town through the roadworks at the danson interchange. in hendon, finchley lane is closed at the a1 for repairs to a burst water main. finally, in roehampton, putney heath is closed at dover house road because of a gas leak. now the weather with elizabeth rizzini. hello, good morning. feeling very cold again today. temperatures once more below freezing this morning. and there's still a met office weather warning in place for snow that's valid until midnight tonight. now there is still always the chance of some lighter snow showers feeding in, particularly towards eastern areas. because the north—easterly wind isn't as strong today, there won't be as much wind chill. those showers are not being driven quite so far across the capital. but always the chance of seeing some more snow, particularly towards the thames estuary — another couple of centimetres here as we head throughout the day. but for many of us i think it will stay dry or mostly dry, some spells of brightness or sunshine. still very chilly indeed, but temperatures for the first time in a couple of days for many of us will be above freezing, one or two celsius. now this evening and overnight, it is going to be one of the coldest nights that we have seen for quite some time. temperatures could drop as low as —7 or —8 celsius. tomorrow is looking dry, still very cold indeed. some spells of brightness, some sunshine. it will turn windier towards the end of the week. i'm back with the latest from the bbc london in half an hour. plenty more on our website at the usual address. now though it's back to louise and dan. bye for now. hello, this is breakfast with dan walker and louise minchin. morning live is on bbc one after breakfast. let's find out what's in store with janette and gethin. morning. morning. thank you, both. keeping me company this frosty morning is the lovely and warm janette manrara. i'm surrounded by friendly faces, because rav�*s here too. what have you got for us today, rav? sadly, the cold weather hasn't put a stop to the scammers and thieves out there. but i've got some hot tips on how you can protect your pension, your car and even your dog. now, along with the vaccine, health experts say a reliable test and trace system is going to be key to getting us back to normal. but what about the people who can't be found? today, we're meeting one of the teams whose job it is to turn detective, going to extraordinary lengths to find the untraceable cases in an attempt to stop the virus in its tracks. and he's one of the uk's most influential gps. dr rangan chatterjee tells us how music can be as powerful as medicine when it comes to boosting our moods. also coming up, if you're a nervous cook like me, chef anna har 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have a lasting impact long after people have recovered from the virus. breakfast�*s tim muffett has been speaking to some of those affected. it's like a blank space. you're living in a two dimensional world. you just... there is nothing. it's the most bizarre thing. they are some of covid's most mysterious symptoms. and victoria, an nhs dietician, has been hit hard. i came down with covid. i had really mild symptoms, but the main one was complete loss of smell and taste. it was awful. you know, i'm not an anxious person, but i was getting anxiety. i was, you know, "is this going to get better, is this life now?" so has your taste and smell gone completely, or has itjust changed? the brain's obviously not interpreting things as normal. so things that you expect to smell bad, smell nice. so, for example, going into public toilets is actually quite nice, which i never thought i'd ever say. but itjust smells of sweet hay. onions, garlic, coffee, all the things that are meant to smell nice and taste nice, taste revolting. like, sewage and sulphur, ammonia, rotting flesh. it's just such an important part of your life. like, so much is connected to your smell and taste. and it's one of those things, like, until you lose it yourself, you have no idea what it's like. i was tested positive for corona back in october last year. and then a month later, around novembertime, i was actually making like, a chicken pasta, and just had like a really weird taste, almost like washing up liquid. i did think, oh, the bowl has not been washed properly, or it's not been swilled out properly. but then, when i, you know, got my brother to taste it, he was like, "no, it tastes normal". anything that's got strong flavours in it, so like garlic, onion, you know, anything with really strong flavours, it'sjust... really, i can't stand to even smell or taste it at all. what impact has this add on you and your family? it's had a really, really big impact on my life in that sense, because, you know, thinking about the future and going out for food, restaurants opening back up again, it's quite worrying to think that i probably won't be able to do that, one, because of the smell, and two, because of the taste. it's very difficult to imagine the impact it has on you unless it's something you've experienced yourself. claire hopkins is an ear, nose and throat surgeon. she's been campaigning for these symptoms to be taken more seriously. have you ever seen symptoms like this before in other conditions? well, we've known about post—viral smell loss for a long time, so that in itself is nothing new. i think the high frequency of parosmia, this distorted smell and taste, is something that we've really never seen before. and in many ways this is having a greater impact and causing more distress than the initial loss. but what we now need is further support for patients who have long term loss. we need more investment into research as to how to prevent long—term loss, and how to better treat those who are still suffering. first of all you swirl a little bit, and then you smell. for some, such as federica, a sommelier, there's been a direct impact on jobs and income. i started smelling the wines and i couldn't smell anything. that seemed to have lasted for four weeks. and it was very worrying for me because i didn't know how long i was going to have this issue. and consider that, for me, my nose and my tasting buds are my tools. is it frustrating that some people don't appreciate how big an impact this has had? with all due respect to people, of course they have severe symptoms of coronavirus, but for us, for people who rely on their senses for their career, theirjob, it's very important not to lose those. for most it's a question of waiting and hoping. victoria is also trying to retrain her sense of smell. we have these little jars. we have essential oils in the jars. on a daily basis you're sniffing and you're trying to be mindful as well, so trying to remember what that smell is meant to smell like. does it work? if anything, it does feel like i'm doing something to help aid recovery, because otherwise it's just... i mean, it's almost been a year for me, so it's been hard. it's difficult to keep the motivation up and believe that you will get better and this isn't what life is going to be like. you can see real difficulties for people. chrissi kelly is the founder of the charity abscent. shejoins us now, along with consultant ear, nose and throat surgeon, professor nirmal kumar. morning bowel. thank you so much for joining us. professor coomber, let's talk about this. you are one of the first specialists to realise this was a problem. how long ago and what did you notice?— did you notice? claire hopkins and m self did you notice? claire hopkins and myself first _ did you notice? claire hopkins and myself first alerted _ did you notice? claire hopkins and myself first alerted clinicians i did you notice? claire hopkins and myself first alerted clinicians in i myself first alerted clinicians in march — myself first alerted clinicians in march 2020. it was a loss of smell that seemed to be predominate. but in the _ that seemed to be predominate. but in the months after that we have found _ in the months after that we have found that — in the months after that we have found that the distortion of the sense — found that the distortion of the sense of— found that the distortion of the sense of smell that many of your viewers — sense of smell that many of your viewers explained earlier, which is causing _ viewers explained earlier, which is causing a — viewers explained earlier, which is causing a lot of impacts patients and their— causing a lot of impacts patients and their livelihoods, and the mental— and their livelihoods, and the mental health disturbances that this causes _ mental health disturbances that this causes is _ mental health disturbances that this causes is immense. the long covid is affecting _ causes is immense. the long covid is affecting the — causes is immense. the long covid is affecting the younger people who have recovered from their covid symptoms — have recovered from their covid symptoms but are affected now hugely. — symptoms but are affected now huael . , ., , , , symptoms but are affected now huael. , hugely. presumably they can't taste what they are _ hugely. presumably they can't taste what they are eating _ hugely. presumably they can't taste what they are eating all _ hugely. presumably they can't taste what they are eating all sorts i hugely. presumably they can't taste what they are eating all sorts of- what they are eating all sorts of things, professor?— what they are eating all sorts of things, professor? absolutely. the taste, the flavours, _ things, professor? absolutely. the taste, the flavours, the _ things, professor? absolutely. the taste, the flavours, the sense i things, professor? absolutely. the taste, the flavours, the sense of i taste, the flavours, the sense of smell. _ taste, the flavours, the sense of smell. unfortunately, the distortion is often _ smell. unfortunately, the distortion is often in _ smell. unfortunately, the distortion is often in an unpleasant direction and that— is often in an unpleasant direction and that is— is often in an unpleasant direction and that is much worse, because they are really— and that is much worse, because they are really unable to enjoy whatever food. _ are really unable to enjoy whatever food. wine. — are really unable to enjoy whatever food, wine, drinks that they normally— food, wine, drinks that they normally would. it is causing a lot of distress — normally would. it is causing a lot of distress for a patient, especially, as i said, young patient who are _ especially, as i said, young patient who are in — especially, as i said, young patient who are in the peak of their productive working lives. chrissy, talk us through _ productive working lives. chrissy, talk us through what _ productive working lives. chrissy, talk us through what happened i productive working lives. chrissy, talk us through what happened to productive working lives. chrissy, i talk us through what happened to you and how it affected you? i iarst talk us through what happened to you and how it affected you?— and how it affected you? i lost my sense of smell _ and how it affected you? i lost my sense of smell in _ and how it affected you? i lost my sense of smell in 2012. _ and how it affected you? i lost my sense of smell in 2012. i - and how it affected you? i lost my sense of smell in 2012. i had i sense of smell in 2012. i had recovered _ sense of smell in 2012. i had recovered quite _ sense of smell in 2012. i had recovered quite well- sense of smell in 2012. i had recovered quite well over- sense of smell in 2012. i had recovered quite well over a i sense of smell in 2012. i had - recovered quite well over a number of years. _ recovered quite well over a number of years. really. _ recovered quite well over a number of years. really. i— recovered quite well over a number of years, really. i did _ recovered quite well over a number of years, really. i did have - of years, really. i did have terrible _ of years, really. i did have terrible per— of years, really. i did have terrible per smear. - of years, really. i did have terrible per smear. but. of years, really. i did have i terrible per smear. but then i of years, really. i did have - terrible per smear. but then i lost my sense — terrible per smear. but then i lost my sense of — terrible per smear. but then i lost my sense of smell _ terrible per smear. but then i lost my sense of smell again - terrible per smear. but then i lost my sense of smell again with - terrible per smear. but then i lostl my sense of smell again with covid in aprih _ my sense of smell again with covid in aprih and — my sense of smell again with covid in april. and while _ my sense of smell again with covid in april. and while i'm _ my sense of smell again with covid in april. and while i'm pretty- my sense of smell again with covid in april. and while i'm pretty muchi in april. and while i'm pretty much on the _ in april. and while i'm pretty much on the road — in april. and while i'm pretty much on the road to— in april. and while i'm pretty much on the road to recovery, _ in april. and while i'm pretty much on the road to recovery, i- in april. and while i'm pretty much on the road to recovery, i do - in april. and while i'm pretty much on the road to recovery, i do still. on the road to recovery, i do still experience — on the road to recovery, i do still experiehce it~ _ on the road to recovery, i do still experiehce it i_ on the road to recovery, i do still experience it. i am _ on the road to recovery, i do still experience it. i am someone - on the road to recovery, i do still| experience it. i am someone who on the road to recovery, i do still- experience it. i am someone who has been _ experience it. i am someone who has been sn1ett— experience it. i am someone who has been smell training _ experience it. i am someone who has been smell training for— experience it. i am someone who has been smell training for years. - experience it. i am someone who has been smell training for years. i- been smell training for years. i know— been smell training for years. i know exactly _ been smell training for years. i know exactly what _ been smell training for years. i know exactly what to _ been smell training for years. i know exactly what to do - been smell training for years. i know exactly what to do and i i been smell training for years. i. know exactly what to do and i do think— know exactly what to do and i do think this — know exactly what to do and i do think this is _ know exactly what to do and i do think this is something _ know exactly what to do and i do think this is something that - know exactly what to do and i do think this is something that is i think this is something that is worthwhile _ think this is something that is worthwhile and _ think this is something that is worthwhile and it _ think this is something that is worthwhile and it has - think this is something that is - worthwhile and it has scientifically been demonstrated _ worthwhile and it has scientifically been demonstrated in— worthwhile and it has scientifically been demonstrated in many- worthwhile and it has scientificallyi been demonstrated in many pieces worthwhile and it has scientifically . been demonstrated in many pieces of research _ been demonstrated in many pieces of research. ., ., ~ been demonstrated in many pieces of research. ., . ,, . , research. you talk about smell trainina. research. you talk about smell training- i _ research. you talk about smell training. ithink— research. you talk about smell training. i think you _ research. you talk about smell training. i think you have - research. you talk about smell training. i think you have got l research. you talk about smelll training. i think you have got an example of what you recommend people do? ., . , example of what you recommend people do? .. , . , example of what you recommend people do? , .,, do? exactly. 0k, as your previous seaker do? exactly. 0k, as your previous speaker said. _ do? exactly. 0k, as your previous speaker said, we _ do? exactly. 0k, as your previous speaker said, we recommend - do? exactly. 0k, as your previous speaker said, we recommend the | do? exactly. 0k, as your previous - speaker said, we recommend the use of these _ speaker said, we recommend the use of these little — speaker said, we recommend the use of these little jars. _ speaker said, we recommend the use of these little jars. put _ speaker said, we recommend the use of these little jars. put something - of these little jars. put something in the _ of these little jars. put something in the bottom, _ of these little jars. put something in the bottom, some _ of these little jars. put something in the bottom, some sort - of these little jars. put something in the bottom, some sort of- in the bottom, some sort of absorbent _ in the bottom, some sort of absorbent paper, _ in the bottom, some sort of absorbent paper, and - in the bottom, some sort of absorbent paper, and then. in the bottom, some sort of. absorbent paper, and then you in the bottom, some sort of- absorbent paper, and then you add your essential— absorbent paper, and then you add your essential oils _ absorbent paper, and then you add your essential oils to— absorbent paper, and then you add your essential oils to them. - absorbent paper, and then you add your essential oils to them. twice i absorbent paper, and then you add| your essential oils to them. twice a day what _ your essential oils to them. twice a day what you — your essential oils to them. twice a day what you want _ your essential oils to them. twice a day what you want to _ your essential oils to them. twice a day what you want to do _ your essential oils to them. twice a day what you want to do is - your essential oils to them. twice a day what you want to do is give - your essential oils to them. twice a day what you want to do is give it . day what you want to do is give it some _ day what you want to do is give it some gentle _ day what you want to do is give it some gentle sniffs. _ day what you want to do is give it some gentle sniffs. cycle - day what you want to do is give it| some gentle sniffs. cycle through your tour— some gentle sniffs. cycle through your fouriars _ some gentle sniffs. cycle through your fourjars. making _ some gentle sniffs. cycle through your fourjars. making sure - some gentle sniffs. cycle through your fourjars. making sure you i your fourjars. making sure you close _ your fourjars. making sure you close them _ your fourjars. making sure you close them tightly— your fourjars. making sure you close them tightly in _ your fourjars. making sure you close them tightly in between. | your fourjars. making sure you - close them tightly in between. and 'ust close them tightly in between. and just some — close them tightly in between. and just some very— close them tightly in between. and just some very important _ close them tightly in between. and just some very important points. . just some very important points. smett— just some very important points. smett training _ just some very important points. smell training is— just some very important points. smell training is not— just some very important points. smell training is not a _ just some very important points. smell training is not a quick- just some very important points. smell training is not a quick fix. i smell training is not a quick fix. it smell training is not a quick fix. it is _ smell training is not a quick fix. it is like — smell training is not a quick fix. it is like physiotherapy- smell training is not a quick fix. it is like physiotherapy for- smell training is not a quick fix. it is like physiotherapy for yourl it is like physiotherapy for your nose — it is like physiotherapy for your nose you _ it is like physiotherapy for your nose. you need _ it is like physiotherapy for your nose. you need to _ it is like physiotherapy for your nose. you need to do - it is like physiotherapy for your nose. you need to do it- it is like physiotherapy for your nose. you need to do it twice i it is like physiotherapy for yourj nose. you need to do it twice a it is like physiotherapy for your- nose. you need to do it twice a day consistentty — nose. you need to do it twice a day consistently for _ nose. you need to do it twice a day consistently for a _ nose. you need to do it twice a day consistently for a minimum - nose. you need to do it twice a day consistently for a minimum of - nose. you need to do it twice a day| consistently for a minimum of three to four— consistently for a minimum of three to four months. _ consistently for a minimum of three to four months, before _ consistently for a minimum of three to four months, before you - consistently for a minimum of three to four months, before you might . to four months, before you might expect— to four months, before you might expect to — to four months, before you might expect to get _ to four months, before you might expect to get the _ to four months, before you might expect to get the full _ to four months, before you might expect to get the full benefit. - to four months, before you might expect to get the full benefit. 0f| expect to get the full benefit. of course, — expect to get the full benefit. of course, there _ expect to get the full benefit. of course, there is— expect to get the full benefit. of course, there is some _ expect to get the full benefit. of course, there is some chance . expect to get the full benefit. of. course, there is some chance that might— course, there is some chance that might you — course, there is some chance that might you experience _ course, there is some chance that might you experience benefit - course, there is some chance that . might you experience benefit before them, _ might you experience benefit before them, but _ might you experience benefit before them, but realty. _ might you experience benefit before them, but really, people _ might you experience benefit before them, but really, people need - might you experience benefit before them, but really, people need to . them, but really, people need to stick— them, but really, people need to stick with— them, but really, people need to stick with it _ them, but really, people need to stick with it.— stick with it. professor, it has worked for — stick with it. professor, it has worked for chrissie, - stick with it. professor, it has. worked for chrissie, obviously, stick with it. professor, it has - worked for chrissie, obviously, she has recovered a sense of smell and is working on it again now. for some people, is there a chance it may never come back? it is people, is there a chance it may never come back?— people, is there a chance it may never come back? it is a worry, yes. a small proportion, _ never come back? it is a worry, yes. a small proportion, it _ never come back? it is a worry, yes. a small proportion, it may _ never come back? it is a worry, yes. a small proportion, it may never- a small proportion, it may never come _ a small proportion, it may never come back _ a small proportion, it may never come back. but at the moment we are still hoping _ come back. but at the moment we are still hoping that most patients who will recover will do so, even if it takes _ will recover will do so, even if it takes time _ will recover will do so, even if it takes time. the retraining that chrissie — takes time. the retraining that chrissie has been talking about is something that requires patience and regular— something that requires patience and regular practice of it. at the moment— regular practice of it. at the moment it is too soon to say whether there _ moment it is too soon to say whether there witt— moment it is too soon to say whether there will be — moment it is too soon to say whether there will be patients who never recover, — there will be patients who never recover, but there is a small possibility. that is why, as professor claire hopkins says, we need _ professor claire hopkins says, we need to— professor claire hopkins says, we need to research, we need to provide resources _ need to research, we need to provide resources for — need to research, we need to provide resources for these patients and of these _ resources for these patients and of these clinics we are setting up around — these clinics we are setting up around the country to help to improve _ around the country to help to improve the chances for these patients _ improve the chances for these atients. . . . improve the chances for these atients. . , . ., improve the chances for these atients. . , . . ., patients. that is what i wanted to ask ou. patients. that is what i wanted to ask you- it _ patients. that is what i wanted to ask you. it should _ patients. that is what i wanted to ask you. it should people - patients. that is what i wanted to ask you. it should people be - patients. that is what i wanted to l ask you. it should people be trying this to help themselves, or should they be going to their doctor? other medical things that can be done? absolutely. i think patients can try for themselves. there are good sources— for themselves. there are good sources of— for themselves. there are good sources of information that we have put on _ sources of information that we have put on our _ sources of information that we have put on our website. chrissie pass my charity— put on our website. chrissie pass my charity has— put on our website. chrissie pass my charity has helped a lot. the information is out there. but sometimes there is a benefit in seeing — sometimes there is a benefit in seeing a — sometimes there is a benefit in seeing a doctor, getting referred to the long _ seeing a doctor, getting referred to the long covid clinics being set up around _ the long covid clinics being set up around the — the long covid clinics being set up around the country. the impacts not 'ust around the country. the impacts not just on— around the country. the impacts not just on the _ around the country. the impacts not just on the smell alone. there are other— just on the smell alone. there are other things that can be done to help over— other things that can be done to help over and above just smell retraining. that is why it is a plea to our— retraining. that is why it is a plea to our primary care doctors and our other— to our primary care doctors and our other colleagues to be empathetic to these _ other colleagues to be empathetic to these patients, give them the support— these patients, give them the support so they can access the right sources— support so they can access the right sources of— support so they can access the right sources of information and treatment.— sources of information and treatment. ~ . , . treatment. we heard in the piece 'ust treatment. we heard in the piece just before _ treatment. we heard in the piece just before you — treatment. we heard in the piece just before you about _ treatment. we heard in the piece just before you about one - treatment. we heard in the piece i just before you about one individual whose sense of smell went all over the place. she said public toilets were smelling nice and are you would expect to feel great were smelling terrible. is that something you went through as well?— through as well? well, not 'ust me. we have through as well? well, not 'ust me. we have got — through as well? well, not 'ust me. we have got 40,000 _ through as well? well, notjust me. we have got 40,000 patients - through as well? well, notjust me. we have got 40,000 patients in - through as well? well, notjust me. | we have got 40,000 patients in our combined _ we have got 40,000 patients in our combined platforms _ we have got 40,000 patients in our combined platforms who _ we have got 40,000 patients in our combined platforms who are - we have got 40,000 patients in our combined platforms who are all - combined platforms who are all saying — combined platforms who are all saying the — combined platforms who are all saying the same _ combined platforms who are all saying the same thing. - combined platforms who are all saying the same thing. where i combined platforms who are all| saying the same thing. where it combined platforms who are all. saying the same thing. where it is an issue. — saying the same thing. where it is an issue. it— saying the same thing. where it is an issue. it is— saying the same thing. where it is an issue, it is a _ saying the same thing. where it is an issue, it is a deeply— saying the same thing. where it is an issue, it is a deeply confusing i an issue, it is a deeply confusing situation — an issue, it is a deeply confusing situation where, _ an issue, it is a deeply confusing situation where, you _ an issue, it is a deeply confusing situation where, you know, - an issue, it is a deeply confusing. situation where, you know, things that you _ situation where, you know, things that you expect— situation where, you know, things that you expect to _ situation where, you know, things that you expect to smell - situation where, you know, things. that you expect to smell disgusting, smelt— that you expect to smell disgusting, smell like _ that you expect to smell disgusting, smell like food. _ that you expect to smell disgusting, smell like food. and _ that you expect to smell disgusting, smell like food. and the _ that you expect to smell disgusting, smell like food. and the food - that you expect to smell disgusting, smell like food. and the food that l smell like food. and the food that you are _ smell like food. and the food that you are looking _ smell like food. and the food that you are looking at _ smell like food. and the food that you are looking at on _ smell like food. and the food that you are looking at on the - smell like food. and the food that you are looking at on the plate . you are looking at on the plate smetts— you are looking at on the plate smells like _ you are looking at on the plate smells like sewage. _ you are looking at on the plate smells like sewage. we - you are looking at on the plate smells like sewage. we are i you are looking at on the plate - smells like sewage. we are getting some _ smells like sewage. we are getting some more — smells like sewage. we are getting some more information _ smells like sewage. we are getting some more information about - smells like sewage. we are getting some more information about what smells like sewage. we are getting . some more information about what is going _ some more information about what is going on— some more information about what is going on with — some more information about what is going on with that _ some more information about what is going on with that. it _ some more 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thought. . .- yes, with that thought... sorry about that! _ we've been speaking this morning about those new quarantine rules for travellers. but how will they affect the tourism industry? nina's looking into this one for us this morning. it's a really difficult time for the travel industry. you have to keep rolling with the punches. almost a year now. good morning, everyone. huge ramifications for the travel industry. experts say if these tough new rules stay in place, british travellers are unlikely to book a trip abroad this year. even if their destination is not currently on that red list. tourism is big business. it generates about £60 billion a yearfor the uk, and supports nearly one millonjobs. despite the furlough scheme and other support packages around 40,000 jobs have already been lost over the last year. and the front line of the industry — the travel agents and tour operators — have seen their income disappear. they did 90% less business in the autumn than they were doing before the pandemic struck. and unlike many industries, they can't shut down because they need to manage current bookings and look ahead to future ones. the industry was one of the first to call for testing plans last year. they're not against these measures, but what they'd like to see is regular policy review so that people feel confident enough to book. they also believe the government should provide quicker, cheaper testing — and maybe vaccine certificates — to help international travel can get back on its feet. what should you do then if you are desperate to get a holiday booked? let's speak to noeljosephides from the association of independent tour operators. he has been in the travel industry for 50 years, and joins us from south west london now. wow, 50 yea rs. wow, 50 years. that's amazing. we will come onto the impact of government policy on the industry shortly. grant schapps said of the truth is we don't know when international travel will reopen. what the audience wants to know is, should i book a holiday or not? well, you can certainly book a holiday — well, you can certainly book a holiday i_ well, you can certainly book a holiday. ijust heard grant schapps say you _ holiday. ijust heard grant schapps say you shouldn't. the fact is there is nothing — say you shouldn't. the fact is there is nothing illegal about booking a holiday — is nothing illegal about booking a holiday. in fact, there are already mittions— holiday. in fact, there are already millions of— holiday. in fact, there are already millions of people who have. don't forget _ millions of people who have. don't forget how — millions of people who have. don't forget how many deferred from last year _ forget how many deferred from last year. they — forget how many deferred from last year. they are awaiting. on the 22nd of february— year. they are awaiting. on the 22nd of february the prime minister is going _ of february the prime minister is going to — of february the prime minister is going to update us, we help, and some _ going to update us, we help, and some sort— going to update us, we help, and some sort of road map to come out of this. some sort of road map to come out of this and _ some sort of road map to come out of this. and certainly we do need a road _ this. and certainly we do need a road map — this. and certainly we do need a road map. quite understandably, what the government is doing now is exactly— the government is doing now is exactly what governments everywhere are doing _ exactly what governments everywhere are doing over this winter. they are trying _ are doing over this winter. they are trying to— are doing over this winter. they are trying to stem the number of incidences so that they will be able to open— incidences so that they will be able to open up— incidences so that they will be able to open up for the spring. we confidently expect that by may, seeing — confidently expect that by may, seeing that most of the over 50s will have — seeing that most of the over 50s will have been vaccinated by then, that we _ will have been vaccinated by then, that we will be able to go ahead. and don't— that we will be able to go ahead. and don't forget, we, the travel industry. — and don't forget, we, the travel industry. i— and don't forget, we, the travel industry, i very much part of the cure _ industry, i very much part of the cure we — industry, i very much part of the cure. we provide happiness to millions — cure. we provide happiness to millions. we fulfil their dreams. and they— millions. we fulfil their dreams. and they desperately need a holiday. so that— and they desperately need a holiday. so that is— and they desperately need a holiday. so that is what we're planning. we're — so that is what we're planning. we're hoping by then that we will be talking _ we're hoping by then that we will be talking to _ we're hoping by then that we will be talking to government, that there will be _ talking to government, that there will be a — talking to government, that there will be a cheaper form of testing, that they— will be a cheaper form of testing, that they will look at that seriously, because so far they don't seem _ seriously, because so far they don't seem to _ seriously, because so far they don't seem to have done that. and that they witt— seem to have done that. and that they will be no quarantine. we 'ust want to make �* they will be no quarantine. we 'ust want to make sure i they will be no quarantine. we 'ust want to make sure we i they will be no quarantine. we 'ust want to make sure we get i they will be no quarantine. we just want to make sure we get through | they will be no quarantine. we just . want to make sure we get through the practical steps that consumers should go through if they want to book now and ensure they don't lose their money. book now and ensure they don't lose their money-— book now and ensure they don't lose their money. what should they do? if ou book a their money. what should they do? if you book a package — their money. what should they do? if you book a package now, _ their money. what should they do? if you book a package now, then - their money. what should they do? if you book a package now, then under| you book a package now, then under the package travel regulations, you are secure — the package travel regulations, you are secure. you will not lose your money _ are secure. you will not lose your money. should your tour operator fail, money. should your tour operator fail. you _ money. should your tour operator fail, you will get all the money back— fail, you will get all the money back from _ fail, you will get all the money back from the civil aviation authority or abta, depending on the can a _ authority or abta, depending on the can a booking you have made. so as lon- can a booking you have made. so as tong as _ can a booking you have made. so as tong as you — can a booking you have made. so as long as you book through a licensed source, _ long as you book through a licensed source, then you have nothing to worry— source, then you have nothing to worry about. this happened last year _ worry about. this happened last year and — worry about. this happened last year. and everybody slowly got their money _ year. and everybody slowly got their money back. we're hoping that we are not going _ money back. we're hoping that we are not going to _ money back. we're hoping that we are not going to have to go through that again— not going to have to go through that again because i think a great many 'ust again because i think a great many just won't— again because i think a great many just won't have the cash to do so. but if— just won't have the cash to do so. but if you — just won't have the cash to do so. but if you book a package, then you know _ but if you book a package, then you know that _ but if you book a package, then you know that your money is secure. and there _ know that your money is secure. and there are _ know that your money is secure. and there are a _ know that your money is secure. and there are a great many people who go to the _ there are a great many people who go to the same _ there are a great many people who go to the same properties every year, who took— to the same properties every year, who look forward to it, who have friends, — who look forward to it, who have friends, acquaintances abroad, and they're _ friends, acquaintances abroad, and they're desperate to go. and don't forget, _ they're desperate to go. and don't forget, you — they're desperate to go. and don't forget, you don't have a vaccine only— forget, you don't have a vaccine only to — forget, you don't have a vaccine only to prevent you from dying. but you have _ only to prevent you from dying. but you have a — only to prevent you from dying. but you have a vaccine to enable you to live _ you have a vaccine to enable you to live that's— you have a vaccine to enable you to live. that's what people are looking forward _ live. that's what people are looking forward to — live. that's what people are looking forward to. ~ ,,., , ~ live. that's what people are looking forward to. ~ , , . . , forward to. absolutely. and many, man of forward to. absolutely. and many, many of us — forward to. absolutely. and many, many of us watching _ forward to. absolutely. and many, many of us watching are _ forward to. absolutely. and many, j many of us watching are desperate for that holiday and to get abroad safely. thank you forjoining us this morning. he says he is confident that by may we will be able to take trips abroad. grant schapps area saying 30.1 million vaccinations in the uk. he did also say international travel is notjust dependent on vaccinations here, it depends what happens around the world. we didn't make any guarantees about when we can start thinking about when we can start thinking about international travel, unfortunately.— about international travel, unfortunately. about international travel, unfortunatel. . . ,, about international travel, unfortunatel. . . m unfortunately. nina, thank you. if ou have unfortunately. nina, thank you. if you have just _ unfortunately. nina, thank you. if you have just switched _ unfortunately. nina, thank you. if you have just switched on, - unfortunately. nina, thank you. if you have just switched on, you i unfortunately. nina, thank you. if. you have just switched on, you might you havejust switched on, you might be wondering what the weather is going to be like today and for the next few days. carrot this year and can tell us. good morning. i carrot this year and can tell us. good morning. lam carrot this year and can tell us. good morning. i am going to start off by telling you how cold it was in some parts of the uk last night. minus 17.1 celsius was recorded in altnaharra in sutherland. that is the lowest temperature of this winter so far. and in fact, for the last decade. if you look at is whether what a picture here in leek in staffordshire, look how frozen it is. the poor wee docks. it is cold wherever you are. once again today we are looking at an array of wintry showers. some of them forming lines, as they have done in the last few days. some of us missing them altogether because they are showers. as we go through the afternoon, some of those across the central lowlands, north—east england, will tend to ease. it is not as windy as it was yesterday. temperatures, they are still low. freezing in aberdeen, -1 are still low. freezing in aberdeen, —1 in edinburgh and newcastle. plus two in plymouth. as we head into this evening and overnight look at the isobars spaced out, indicating the isobars spaced out, indicating the winds are going to ease further. we continue with wintry showers in the north and east. we have a little line coming on across the south—west. that may produce some sleet and snow across western parts of cornwall. but look at the blue right the way across the uk. indicating it is going to be another cold night. these temperatures represent what you can expect in towns and cities. —80 in london, for example. —7 in manchester. and —12 in aberdeen. dashwood minus eight. in rural areas it could be colder. we could see —10 in east anglia. we could have a —17, possibly lower, because part of the highlands and the grampians. for a thursday we start off with the risk of ice on untreated surfaces. a lot of dry weather, a fair bit of sunshine. showers in the north and east. then head towards the west of the cloud starts to build. the sunshine will turn hazy. we will see some sleet and snow followed by rain. temperatures three and two in belfast and plymouth. just above freezing as we head over towards the east. on friday, again we are looking at a lot of dry weather, some weak winter sunshine. but this area coming in from the north sea could prove to indicate some significant snowfall across parts of north—east scotland. towards the west the cloud will build ahead of this next system. that is an atlantic system. it could well introduce some milder atlantic air compared to what we have been used to of late, which is this cold continental air. to of late, which is this cold continentalair. look to of late, which is this cold continental air. look at the mall to get that bit further inland. that is something we are keeping a close eye on. during the course of saturday it will still remain cold for many of us. as we head into sunday we start to see a slight recovery in those temperatures. leading us into an unsettled week next week. carol, thank you. all that to look forward to, prepare for. for english and drama students, seeing the classic texts they've been studying performed live on stage, can be vitally important for their understanding. but the pandemic has meant that thousands are missing out. now professional actors have taken over home—schooling to help bring some of the classics to life online. kellie shirley is taking part, and join us now. i think ithinka i think a friend of yours had the idea. explain a little bit about it? my idea. explain a little bit about it? my friend caitlin runs a production company — my friend caitlin runs a production company. she is an amazing theatre producer _ company. she is an amazing theatre producer. and obviously, the industry— producer. and obviously, the industry has taken a massive knock. she had _ industry has taken a massive knock. she had this — industry has taken a massive knock. she had this idea because her stepson — she had this idea because her stepson was finding it really difficult in lockdown to get to grips — difficult in lockdown to get to grips really with shakespeare. so she had _ grips really with shakespeare. so she had this light bulb moment to rally together all of us, all of her mates, _ rally together all of us, all of her mates, to— rally together all of us, all of her mates, to bring the text tos to life _ mates, to bring the text tos to life it — mates, to bring the text tos to life. it would be a wait for loads of students to what some free shakespeare and hopefully understand thin-s shakespeare and hopefully understand things like macbeth, because it is realty— things like macbeth, because it is really dense. as you probably know. you are _ really dense. as you probably know. you are taking part in a workshop today. what part are you reading? lady macbeth, of course! so yeah, i'm lady macbeth, of course! so yeah, im playing — lady macbeth, of course! so yeah, i'm playing lazy macbeth. that's where _ i'm playing lazy macbeth. that's where lady macbeth. an amazing cast. tomorrow— where lady macbeth. an amazing cast. tomorrow we have gotjoe lycett and pearl mackie. there are lots of us who have — pearl mackie. there are lots of us who have been getting involved. we have got— who have been getting involved. we have got ours at ten past nine. our first performance to 460 kids. it is all free _ first performance to 460 kids. it is all free we — first performance to 460 kids. it is all free. we have got a kick starter if anybody— all free. we have got a kick starter if anybody is interested in donating, so we can have you do more workshops _ donating, so we can have you do more workshops if— donating, so we can have you do more workshops. if anybody wants to get involved. _ workshops. if anybody wants to get involved. it — workshops. if anybody wants to get involved, it is on my twitter. it involved, it is on my twitter. [it must involved, it is on my twitter. must be involved, it is on my twitter. it must be exciting to doing —— to be doing a live performance again? filth. doing a live performance again? oh, m god! doing a live performance again? oh, my god! yes! _ doing a live performance again? oh, my god! yes! yes! it really is. we had rows— my god! yes! yes! it really is. we had rows in— my god! yes! yes! it really is. we had rows in a _ my god! yes! yes! it really is. we had rows in a couple of days ago. because — had rows in a couple of days ago. because we — had rows in a couple of days ago. because we haven't really had a chance — because we haven't really had a chance to — because we haven't really had a chance to do stuff like this, it was really. _ chance to do stuff like this, it was really, really exciting. yeah, we're realty— really, really exciting. yeah, we're really looking forward to doing it. we have — really looking forward to doing it. we have got two performances today. and yeah. _ we have got two performances today. and yeah, i'm really thrilled to be doing _ and yeah, i'm really thrilled to be doing some work.— doing some work. listen, it's wonderful- — doing some work. listen, it's wonderful. i'm _ doing some work. listen, it's wonderful. i'm sure - doing some work. listen, it's wonderful. i'm sure they - doing some work. listen, it's wonderful. i'm sure they will| doing some work. listen, it's - wonderful. i'm sure they will enjoy it. thank you very much indeed. thank you!— thank you! have a great day. hopefully _ thank you! have a great day. hopefully speaking _ thank you! have a great day. hopefully speaking to - thank you! have a great day. | hopefully speaking to celeste thank you! have a great day. - hopefully speaking to celeste before we finish this morning. a packed end of the programme. it's 8.59. this is bbc news with the latest headlines. the government rebukes criticism that its £10,000 fines and 10—year the government says don't book any summer holidays just yet. ministers say travel depends on everyone getting a covid—19 jab say travel depends on everyone getting a covid—19jab in, including in other countries. we're not talking nowjust about, oh, there's a lot of coronavirus in that country and you might bring some more of it back when we already have plenty of it here. what we're talking about now are the mutations, the variants. we will be talking about all of that with jonathan van—tam we will be talking about all of that withjonathan van—tam from ten o'clock here on bbc news and the bbc asian network. ministers are due to unveil further measures to help thousands of people

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