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united states. lloyds bank bans bitcoin purchases on its credit cards — it says people need protecting from debts they may never be able to repay. snow and freezing fog disrupt travel as temperatures continue to plummet across the uk. and coming up in the sport on bbc news: the philadelphia eagles are celebrating a first super bowl title after a thrilling win over defending champions the new england patriots. hello, good afternoon and welcome to the bbc news at one. downing street has ruled out the prospect of the uk staying in any kind of european customs union after brexit, after days of disunity within the conservative party. within the conservative party. in a customs union, the uk would have tariff—free trade within the eu, but would lose the ability to strike deals with other countries around the world. the eu's chief negotiatior michel barnier hasjust arrived in downing street this afternoon for talks with the brexit secretary david davis. our political correspondent leila nathoo reports. on his way to london, the eu's chief brexit negotiator, chief for —— keen for talks to resume, and to speed up. good afternoon. good afternoon. my feeling, not a minute to lose, because we have to achieve this, and, once again, not a minute to lose. there's so much work to do, so we have decided for this reason to all the contact. theresa may has been under pressure to seymour about the kind of brexit she wants. as she returned to downing street this morning number ten insisted britain was clear that they would be leaving the customs union. so what does that mean? at the moment britain can trade freely with the eu, as eu member states taunton impose tariffs on each other‘s goods. all states also impose the same taxes on goods coming in from outside the block, the individual states cannot do their own deals with other countries and that is what theresa may wants to change, by ruling out staying in any sort of customs union with eu after brexit. what i would say about the customs union is that if we were members of it it would inhibit our ability to strike deals with other countries, and that is one of the benefits of brexit, that we can have more flexible —— brexit, that we can have more flexible — — flex brexit, that we can have more flexible —— flex ability and we can extend those trade deals across the world. but the prime minister's critics warn that a break with the eu will be damaging for the economy, disrupting trade with a crucial partner, and raising questions about trade across the irish border. there area trade across the irish border. there are a lot of answers we need to know to be able to react. it is like anything else but it is major. as business grows we have issues we have to deal with but this is outside of our control currently. once it is divine. but the impact will be very severe on us. some closing for closer ties in the future set around the cabinet table —— once it is decided, but the impact will be very severe. for 19 months we have heard a lot of "we're not going to do this and we're not going to do that." what are we going to do? that is what we are waiting to do? that is what we are waiting to hear, and it is what the 27 countries the uk is negotiating with a waiting to hear, and in the meantime the uncertainty is really bad for business. this is a crucial week for brexit negotiations, not just between the uk and brussels but also within the cabinet. senior ministers are trying to settle on what they want. i categorically waving goodbye to a customs union after brexit theresa may has tried to appease the rest of tory brexiteers, but there will need to be compromised and agreement on detailfor any of be compromised and agreement on detail for any of the discussions to move on. leila nathoo, bbc news, westminster. let's speak to our assistant political editor norman smith. key is out in the cold in downing street. is this essentially what all this is norman? and appeasement of brexiteers? fascinating, isn't it? well, jane, theresa may has been under huge pressure from brexiteers breathing down her neck who fears she may be moving towards a softer type of brexit but now she has thrown them a great big juicy brexit bone, by saying we will not be staying in the customs union, something she has said before, but seeing that we will not be in any kind of reworked or revamped customs union by the back door. is that the end of matter? maybe not, because tory bremainers, when you look at government documents, statements by government documents, statements by government ministers, they look at a customs framework partnership and they believe there is still scope for some sort of fudge that could keep us in an eu trading block. more than that, they don't believe mrs may as the numbers in the comments to force us through any kind of customs union and later in the month we may get a vote on this, and of jeremy corbyn were to decide withdrawing his lot with the tory remainers mrs may to be in real difficulty, so this battle could be farfrom difficulty, so this battle could be far from over. norman, thanks for now, norman smith there. as michel barnier and david davis hold talks in downing street, chris morris from the bbc‘s reality check team is here to explain what stage we're at in the brexit negotiations. chris? yes, it feels like there are two broad sets of negotiations going on at the moment — one between the eu and the uk, and another within the british government, trying to reach agreement on what it wants the future relationship with the eu to look like. and the eu has emphasised on numerous occasions that until it has a clearer idea of the uk position, negotiations on the future can't really begin. so what's happening at the moment? well, to start with there is still a lot of work to be done on the outstanding issues from phase one of the talks. we discussed them a lot last year. the future status of the irish border, a financial settlement or divorce bill, and the future rights of eu citizens here and uk citizens elsewhere in europe. and when it comes to the irish border, the issues of customs arrangements — which we've heard so much about today — looms large. how can you have an invisible border there without some kind of customs union? the challenge is to resolve all of these issues in the next few months and turn them into a legal text — a withdrawal agreement that would have to be ratified and signed before the uk leaves the eu in march 2019. at the same time negotiations are about to begin on a transition period after brexit for up to two years. those arrangements mean the uk would have to follow all eu rules and regulations, without having any say in making them. but they would give businesses and governments more time to plan for the future. but what will the future actually look like? negotiations on that haven't even begun yet, and the other 27 eu countries are still considering theirjoint position while they wait for more clarity from london. trade is the obvious issue — will the uk remain closely aligned with eu rules and regulations, will it try to forge its own path, or — as seems likely — will it try to negotiate a mixture of the two? the eu is already warning against ‘cherry—picking' the best bits. there are also a host of other issues on which we cooperate closely with the eu — security and policing, for example, and foreign policy. new relationships need to be negotiated there too. so ‘plenty to do' is putting it mildly — no wonder that the eu negotiator michel barnier said today there isn't a minute to lose. but unravelling a relationship that has developed over more than a0 years was never going to be easy chris, thank you. chris morris. a white supremacist has been convicted of a terrorist offence, after planning to carry out a machete attack on a gay pride event in cumbria. 20—year—old ethan stables plotted to target people attending an lgbt event at a pub in barrow. prosecutors said he had expressed homophobic, nazi and racist views online. you may find some of the evidence upsetting. our home affairs correspondent dominic casciani reports. ethan stables, self—confessed neo nazi. he planned to carry out an attack. he had been homeless in barrow, and eventually moved into a small dilapidated flat in the town. behind his front door lastjune, he spoke online about how he hated gay people, and he began to amass weapons. he recorded this shocking video... it's just like weapons. he recorded this shocking video... it'sjust like gay people, much nicer when they are on fire. he told members of the private neo nazi facebook group there were pride flag is flying over a nearby pub and it was time to turn hate into action. ina was time to turn hate into action. in a series of increasingly frightening posts, stables revealed his plan. "i am going to war tonight," he told them. i am going tonight," he told them. i am going to walk in with the machete and slaughter every single one. some encouraged him, but one replied, that's not right. he posted this reconnaissance poster and signed off, i'm fighting for what i believe m, off, i'm fighting for what i believe in, my country, my folk, my race. the barmaid was setting up for the night when armed officers, tipped off bya night when armed officers, tipped off by a facebook user, rushton. " —— they rushed in. off by a facebook user, rushton. " -- they rushed in. it frightened me. i felt like a -- they rushed in. it frightened me. ifelt like a deer -- they rushed in. it frightened me. i felt like a deer in the headlights, they said there had been a terrorist threats made against the pub and this person was going to comment while the event was on and basically harm people. —— come in while the event was on. i was so angry afterwards to think someone would actually do something like that to a peaceful place. with the armed police over there, the manhunt in barrow continue and shortly after 10pm he was arrested on this road, between his flat and the target. the prosecutor said this was his last act of reconnaissance before he would have gone home to get his weapons. this is what police recorded finding after they broke into his flat, a swastika flag on the wall, weapons including an act is laid out and prepared, evidence that stables was trying to make his own explosives. it would have been a bloodbath, no getting away from that. i just wish bloodbath, no getting away from that. ijust wish it bloodbath, no getting away from that. i just wish it was taken bloodbath, no getting away from that. ijust wish it was taken more seriously... lee wicks runs the lgbt support group who was the target and said the far right once more becoming emboldened as the unchallenged on social media. personally i think facebook should have closed his account. i was quite horrified to see his main picture was him looking very aryan in front ofa was him looking very aryan in front of a swastika banner flag, was him looking very aryan in front of a swastika bannerflag, and was him looking very aryan in front of a swastika banner flag, and the literature was very extreme nazi propaganda. facebook has not commented on by he remained online, despite at least four complaint against him. during his defence he claimed he never meant his words and that he was in fact bisexual. his conviction today for preparing an act of terrorism means he could face act of terrorism means he could face a life sentence. dominic casciani, bbc news, barrow. a man accused of hacking into computers at the fbi and nasa has won a high court challenge against extradition to the united states. lauri love, who's 32, could have faced 90 years in prison if found guilty in a trial in america. angus crawford reports. lauri love is a wanted man. us authorities say he is a hacker who stole vast amounts of data. for his supporters, he is vulnerable, with asperger‘s syndrome. if sent to america, he could face a lifetime in jail. today, the high court had to decide if he could be extradited. thejudges ruled the risk of severe depression and suicide was too great. we're very happy and relieved. we're very thankful for the high court for the judges, for their wisdom and discernment. thankful for all the support we've had, without which i'm not sure i would have made it this far. for lauri's father, a hugely symbolic day. there is a consensus of agreement about the things that really matter, about decency, about justice, about fairness. i've always believed to be born in these islands is to win the lottery of life, and that what makes britain great, makes it great britain, is not our power or our might but the fact it's a great place to live. but what is his son actually accused of? us authorities say he was part of the hacking group anonymous, breaking into the systems of the us army, nasa and the fbi and stealing what he found, boasting of his exploits. he was traced via a romanian e—mail address and a paypal account. he's been interviewed here by national crime agency, but not charged. lauri love's future, though, is still uncertain. though he can't be sent to the us for trial, he may still be prosecuted here. angus crawford, bbc news. senior figures in the african national congress will hold an emergency meeting this afternoon, to decide the future of the south african president jacob zuma. it's understood he's refused to stand down, even after six top anc officials visited him at home in pretoria yesterday to ask him to resign. jacob zuma is facing corruption allegations, and many in the anc want cyril ramaphosa to take over. the only surviving suspect in the 2015 paris terrorist attacks, salah abdelsam, has gone on trial in brussels relating to a gun battle with belgian police. he told the court, "i am not afraid of you, i am not afraid of your allies. i put my trust in allah." gavin lee sent this report. under armed guard and tight security, salah abdeslam, once one of europe's most wanted men, being driven to court this morning in brussels. he was alleged to be the sole survivor of the paris attacks in 2015, when multiple locations were targeted and 130 people were killed. police traced abdeslam's movement in the hours after the attacks to a service station near the belgian border, but he went into hiding. finally arrested in brussels four month later. salah abdeslam has been in prison for almost two years and allegations about his involvement in the paris attacks are still to come to court. but here in brussels, where he's been driven from a french prison to face a separate case about allegations of attempted murder, when police officers came to a safe house attempting to arrest him, here in brussels. she speaks french this footage shows a similar scenes in court today, though filming of abdeslam and the second suspect, also said to have been in hiding, was promoted. abdeslam spoke only to say that he would remain silent throughout the trial and that as a muslim he was being judged mercilessly. he refused to stand atop the second suspect who fled the brussels hideout also gave evidence. he told the court that the weapons used to fire and police have been kept in a bedroom of the property but he claimed he didn't know where they were from. investigators are still hoping they will be able to glean some significant information from this case, which adds to the picture of what happened in paris, and discover as much information as they can about the wider network involved even if today, on the surface, it looks unlikely. the time is 1:17pm. our top story this lunchtime... the eu's chief negotiator arrives for talks in london as downing street says there is no prospect of britain remaining in any type of customs union after brexit. coming up... as the uk begins to freeze, there's chaos in moscow with record snowfall across the russian capital. coming up in sport... olympic champions jack laugher and chris mears are in team england's13—strong diving squad for the commonwealth games. the pressures facing the nhs have been hitting the headlines throughout the winter. with increasing demands and an ageing population, many people are discussing the future funding of the health service. now, a group of independent health experts, commissioned by the liberal democrats, has recommended creating a new tax, to replace national insurance. the money would be ringfenced for the nhs and social care in england. our health editor hugh pym has the details. chanting: save our nhs! thousands of demonstrators marched through london at the weekend calling for increased funding for the nhs. health unions joined other campaigners, arguing there was a winter crisis which needed urgent action and investment. today a report from health experts, including the former head of nhs england, has called for new proposals to nhs funding problems. the report, commissioned by the liberal democrats, calls for an extra £4 billion on top of inflation for the nhs extra £4 billion on top of inflation forthe nhs in extra £4 billion on top of inflation for the nhs in england in the next financial year, more than double the increase announced in the budget. a single, ring—fenced tax for health and social care replacing national insurance. and reinstating a commitment to cap the costs paid by individuals for social care. it is important that we understand the nhs is not a wasteful service. it isa the nhs is not a wasteful service. it is a service that is creating a very healthy population and continues to do so. but if we want that, we have to fund it. if we don't want it, that's a decision we should be making as a population and this new form of taxation, ring fenced, would make that a lot easier. at a ring fenced attacks dedicated to health and social care may not be as straightforward as it seems. some health economists say could raise more questions than a nswe rs. answers. what happens when the doesn't rise and produce enough money that you want a span of the nhs? that begs the question, what is enough and who decides on a? it seems to me you can't escape some of the difficult political decisions about how much we would like to spend on health and social care. getting the over 65 to want to carry on working to pay national insurance is one proposal in the report to cover higher nhs spending. the liberal democrat leader, visiting a hospital today, says whatever form it takes higher taxation will be needed. taxes are never popular but i think we do have to be honest with the public. if you want a first—class nhs, and i think we do asa first—class nhs, and i think we do as a country, we've got to pay for it and we've got to pay for it in a way that is related to people's ability to pay. in response, the department for health and social ca re department for health and social care said the nhs had been prioritised in the budget and an extra £2 billion had already been provided for health and social care in england. there are, though, growing calls for long—term thinking on funding as the nhs celebrates its 70th birthday this year. another a52jobs are being lost as a result of the collapse of the construction and services firm carillion. it comes on top of the 377 job losses announced last week. at the time it went into liquidation last month, carillion employed 20,000 people in the uk. lloyds banking group has banned its customers from using its credit cards to buy virtual currencies, such as bitcoin. the group says it's protecting people from running up debts they may never be able to repay. our personal finance correspondent simon gompertz is here. probably worth explaining a little bit more again about bitcoin. we keep hearing about it. what is it, how does it work? it is one of several what they call crypto currencies and they are basically invented currencies that operate on the internet. you can't hold them because they're not real, they are virtual, as you say. you can't keep them ina virtual, as you say. you can't keep them in a bank account. they are not regulated and controlled by the bank of england, so what's the attraction? well, they‘ re of england, so what's the attraction? well, they're quite secret so people don't really know who has the money, how it is behaved, so criminals have been using them, and also, for many, it has been a gamble. they have seen the values go up and up and then down and they have been attracted to get into them. this is the wild west of finance at the moment, online money. let's look at what has happened to the values. a year ago, one bitcoin was worth £700, in theory. you can pay for some things with them on the internet. that went up with them on the internet. that went up in december to nearly £111,000, so a huge increase, hundreds of thousands of people trying to get in on it on this country, now it has gone down below £6,000. in fact it is dropping today. so you can see, what lloyds is worried about. they say they are protecting customers from making losses but it is worried about itself, that it will lend out credit to people and it won't be able to get the money back from people if they have lost it on bitcoin. this is what lloyds are saying but how does it actually stop someone from using their credit card to do this? some people in banking so they are a bit perplexed about this because you just buy something from a merchant who has one of those consoles, you put your card in. but in fact each merchant has a code and lloyds can block those codes, so it can do it. questions being asked on the internet today about whether it is right to stop people spending their own money and the answer to thatis,if their own money and the answer to that is, if it is on a credit card q not that is, if it is on a credit card it, not 2— that is, if it is on a credit card it, not 2“ it it is not their own money, it is credit, and lloyds is not stopping people from using their debit cards to ta ke people from using their debit cards to take money straight out of their bank accounts to buy bitcoin. thank you very much, simon gompertz. a who admitted using the dark web to export and sell the high—strength painkiller fentanyl has been sentenced to eight years in prison. kyle enos, who's 25, was selling the drug, which is significantly stronger than heroin, around the world. our correspondent tomos morgan is at cardiff crown court. fe nta nyl is fentanyl is a drug that is at least 25 times stronger than heroin and has been linked to over 60 deaths in the ukjust has been linked to over 60 deaths in the uk just last year. has been linked to over 60 deaths in the ukjust last year. the national crime agency investigated and identified kyle enos as a significant fentanyl dealer and found that he had been trading the drug, buying and selling, over the dark web under a pseudonym, 2/150 customers, in the uk and in north america. police raided his residence last year and found he had several bags of varying strengths of the evidence that he had been changing the strength of the drug and tailoring it for the different customers that were ordering it from him. he said he would use the money he had made from his illegal business to pay for a university degree but he had also paid for a luxury apartment here in the centre of cardiff. thejudge luxury apartment here in the centre of cardiff. the judge sentenced kyle enos to eight years. thank you very much, thomas morgan in cardiff. hugh grant has settled his claim at the high court for damages for phone hacking by mirror group newpapers. it's understood the actor has accepted a six—figure sum, which he has donated to hacked off, the group that campaigns for press accountability. being a professional sportsperson can bring wealth, adulation and glory. but when your career is over, it can be difficult to adjust to everyday life. our sports correspondent azi farni reports. commentator: kelly holmes for great britain. what a performance! you are the double olympic champion, kelly holmes. to be olympic champion, aged 34, i had achieved it. suddenly, i had no idea who i was, what i wanted to be. the biggest thing that i felt was a loss of identity and kind of purpose. as an athlete, dame kelly holmes had it all — success, structure, support. for many like her, their sporting lives are mapped out. but come retirement, all that disappears. i had always been announced as an olympian, or an olympic athlete, or an international athlete, and suddenly, i'm having to reel off lots of places that i'd go, or roles that i'd have to play, and it made me feel like a little bit sort of lost. among her many post—athletics ventures, dame kelly has opened this cafe in her hometown of hildenborough. its name comes after her running number when she won double olympic gold, but what about the transition to life after sport, when you don't have gold medals to look back on? former england rugby union captain catherine spencer played in two world cup finals. she lost both, retired and then watched as her team—mates lifted the trophy in 2014. you know, i probably, every day, at some point during the day, i'll think about it. i'll think about not winning the world cup. i was absolutely devastated. i was completely gutted that this hadn't happened four years earlier. it was so hard to watch, and it's taken me six or seven years to start to feel comfortable about my retirement. i've been retired now 12 years, and i can honestly say, it's only in the past year and a half that i've kind of got in my head, you know what, i know who i am and what i want to be. in fact, more than half of the 800 former professional sports people who replied to a survey by the professional players‘ federation said they'd had concerns about their mental or emotional well—being since retiring. just over half reported financial difficulties in the five years after stopping playing, with money being the biggest single worry after retirement. but whose responsibility is it to help them transition? should governing bodies help at this time? yes, because we have seen so much of what we're talking about now, the detrimental effects of sport. you don't want a negative in sport, because sport actually should be the best thing that anyone has in theirlife. and with three global sporting championships coming up in the next three months, the challenge across sport may not just be winning more medals. azi farni, bbc news. people in moscow have been battling record levels of snow, which has blocked roads and grounded flights. russia's meteorological service says the capital has seen more than half its average monthly snowfall in just 2a hours. steve rosenberg ventured out — and sent us this report. well, it's no secret that in russia, in the winter, it snows. but it doesn't normally snow quite like this. for the last two days, we've seen more than one month's worth of snowfall in moscow. it's the biggest snowfall here since records began, and that's causing problems for the authorities who are normally pretty good at dealing with all this white, fluffy stuff. thousands of snowploughs have come onto the streets to try to clear the roads. it's not just affecting moscow but cities across central russia, too. and the moscow authorities have been sending out text messages to people — i got one this morning — telling us to leave our cars at home and to use public transport. what happens to all of this snow once it's fallen? well, once the snowploughs have cleared it and piled it up, it's taken to the edge of the city to be disposed of in special snow disposal centres. well, it's not quite as bad as that here, but if you've been out and about today you won't be surprised to learn that forecasters are set to last. this footage was taken by police as they attended incidents on the icy m20 in kent. fortunately, no—one was seriously injured, and the motorway has now been cleared. the met office has issued yellow warnings of snow and ice for large swathes of the uk. louise lear knows plenty about all of that. i'm sure those in moscow are laughing at us back home because we had a centimetre or two across

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