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to visit the cells. some of the cells were thought about come under with this showed us wear, their leaders were held where they were tortured extensively and where they gave us testimonies which were quite disturbing. but they say that they are happy that they are visiting the jail once again. they say that they are okay with what happened. they say that they have forgiven the people, they will not forget, but they will not seek revenge from not just the guys, but from allied forces. events had to state from around the world have been addressing the un general assembly in new york keynote speeches warned about the pandemic have kind of done and climate change. yes, president joe biden delivered his 1st address to the global body and said the united states is not seeking a new cold war with china. libya's eastern base parliament has passed no competence votes in the unity government. the prime minister says he will continue to lead the care take administration. the votes is a new blow to the un backed peace efforts. 3 months ahead of election. us border patrol agents have been condemned after out. is there a video that went viral, showed them on horseback, pushing back migrants. destination says the white house policy of the porting people from haiti could be a violation of international law. thousands who crossed into the us from mexico been camping under a bridge. nevada town tell rio in texas. more people have been forced from their homes after new volcanic event blue open on one of spain's canary islands. rivers of lava have been flowing across the palmer since an option on sunday. extraordinary pictures. alright, your state lines here or not 0. we got more news coming up right after the stream. see later talk to al jazeera. we can what gives you hope that it is going to be peace because the situation on the ground seems to be pointing otherwise we listen. we were never on. 3 whatever road to off migration we meet with global news makers and talk about the stories on sierra news high us. i me ok this week on the street. we are teaming up with the united nations to tackle the major global issues. if you're new to right now, be in the comment section and be in the show. today as seen is looking at the millions of people car, a displaced by the climate crisis. and i mean, the people who will be in the future, his re, to, to get a conversation started. the banks report states that 520-5216 1000000 migrants would be created as a result of back for climate change. now these migrant, an absence of any safety net or survival strategy, they're forced to pursue risky coping mechanisms. but example, taking loans from agents would then push them into their bond days because they're unable to pay that one or funding pay to fix traffic or trying to cross party for survival, where they had been pushed into hard labor prosecution. the worst thing is, these climate impacts affect watson with a $2.00 degree global warming trajectory these event will become twice as frequent and intensity. let me your gap. hello, andrew. hello, hindu, hello, marathon. so good to have all 3 of you with us today. andrew, please say hello to the international audience. tell them who you are and what you do. my name is andrew hopper, i'm the high commissioners special advisor for climate action. and we are very much engaged in trying to protect the world's most vulnerable populations. but to build up preparedness and resilience of those generous states to the hosting them good to have you hello hinting welcome back to the stream. always get to have you with us air. remind our audience who you are, what you do. hi, everyone. my name is mark here i am from chad, from border communities who are maybe leaving any p as in the climate change m class. they live from much for bringing your expertise to the stream america. welcome back to the stream as well, ways. great. have you on the show, ramana audience who you are and what you do in the context of today's conversation . thanks. ok. many we run a key storia. i'm the mayor or feature on the capital. if you've terry own. and climate is one of the one of the forefront issues that we're attacking and transform feature. but besides and beyond what i do in my 50, i'm also the co chair of the fi, 40 m. c, global tax for on climate and migration. so seeing the perspective, not just my city, but from cities across the globe. i so much expertise today or is of course you can ask them questions any time. i'm going to start the close up of andrew fate. i'm going to ask him a question and i want, i want to see reaction what she's reaction andry when people talk to you about we have an issue with climate refugees. when you hear about fries be honest, take the phil to off. what do you say? this is one of the problems and lucky you're not being fair. but the things with, with climate refugees is not recognized on the international war that's. that's the 1st thing, because refugees are a specific group of people who have fled or been persecuted across the sessional border. what we often don't recognize when we're talking about climate impacted populations is that they, they haven't actually cross the border that, that the people are being impacted. and they're staying within the, within the state boundaries. they don't move unless, unless they're not being supported enough. so the vast majority of people who are being impacted today, they're not moving that i want to move, they want to stay within the communities. they're the ones who are being the most vulnerable that being impacted. but it says no choice, if there's no support to adaptations, there's no support mitigation. then of course they will move to where they can find safety and dignity and the life. so when, when we talk about refugees, it's a very specific terminology. and this is why you asked, it means when people have been forced across a border, that being said, 90 percent of the world's refugees have come from a climate impact common, impacted country. so there's generally a wink nexus between climate and conflict. may not necessarily be that clear, but it's something which we're sort of studying much more. and so our job is to ascertain what is driving people. why do they need protection? and to make sure they get that protection. so people using that phrase may be mistaken, but the situation is very serious. in july i went to your twitter feed. let's have a look at the pin tweet and hindu pin. this tween last august. and another slot in my hometown, people losing life shelters, resources, especially women and children becoming displaced and refugees in their own city. hindu fitted climate change impact on people's lives right now. tell us more. that's true. so when we talk about the climate change and the impact people think like what is happening in the daily life of the community. and of course, as you just just saw in between, got people leave in these plans for how many years we've been treated in the children and just a one night slot, come in the throat all where they are leaving all the life would be coming from one second, in other ones, if there are some towns they have to move from these left and be no one and seeking know where and we are a shudder myisha. i'll say it is actually happening last week in hell to ban. oh, really? because and carry cannot move in the enclave. they have to be camp inside the country or outside the country in order to get a pass to see them. andrea, i'm really glad you mentioned south sudan because my colleague keep all that. he's an algebra. english correspondent, she was reporting on that flood situation just a little while ago, like where we are in sudan a little bit, southern north and south to don. hey, she is reporting on the flooding. this is what's new a la village incidence state of white mal. now looks like from above, it was had more than 80 homes, housing, dozens of families, but heavy rains in the east of the country resulted in flash floods that left the houses in ruins. la wright again in these houses belong to me and my children. then the waters came at night about a week ago and started in the village. they just moved in, but now everything has gone. i've managed to save this cupboard, but it's destroyed. i don't know what will happen next. the only way to reach new ala now is by boat, and many of the villagers are using them to pick up whatever they can salvage mervin. i'm just looking at tweet that nazi centers just a little while ago. and matthew says on twitter, this is already happening here in zambia, talking about people being displaced by climate change, people migrating to the northern parts of ambia, leading to lots of livelihoods, communities, and creating cultural conflicts. what are you finding happening in sibley own a, particularly in freetown things. ok. and so the, the flooding is the future. we've been working on the last 3 years. i've been there on mitigation activity, trying to reduce, reduce to incidence or reduce the severity or the reality of seen in these videos. and as we've seen happening, even in europe this summer, is that this the level of rain for the abnormally heavy rainfall, which is the sociate climate change is, is a reality. and there's limits to what anyone can do to prevent that actually having consequences. that said, part of what we was shown in the video just now the focus on the reins. tough half the story. the other half of the normal weather patterns is a lack of rain. so in as much as you have flooding, you also have drought. and what we're seeing in terms of the impact of these abnormal weather conditions is failure of crops failure of farming communities and an influx into the city. one of the interesting that you read out earlier is a 216000000 people are going to be displaced by climate by 2050. we also have patristic that tell us by 205070 percent of the world's population is going to be living in cities. we have this combined impact, which means 15 need to be ready, 50. we ready to deal with that influx the population. we're seeing that already, but they've also got to be adaptive because most of these vulnerable people find themselves li, find themselves in more vulnerable situations. they become the slum dwellers, those living and informal sacraments on sleep, deep hills are on the coastline. so you move, you're trying to escape the climate crisis and you put yourself in harm. danger this afternoon. i actually spent 3 hours with some colleagues, a consortium of n g o who had been working with us for the last 2, your on developing upgrade for informal settlement communities. both are put on the coat. so we see that the climate emergency is putting more pressure on fatigue across the world. and in particularly in the global south. and what we need to do as city leaders. governance is ensure that we're putting in place the resilient interventions mitigation adaptation, housing, job creation. because the people are going to come, we also got to ensure that we are working in those areas such as where, where might my dear sister lives where, you know, in the rural areas is got to be investment is got to be patient there as well. so yes, we're seeing the impact and we've got to, we've got to respond to more coming. you mentioned 2.5 degrees. we know everybody's aiming at $1.00, but it's interesting that people are recognizing that $1.00 is unlikely to be achieved. so with that mean adaptation mitigation, it's got to be built in to government intervention. now we know this is happening, address, hindi and marriage. we know this is when we know more people will be displaced. he goes on twist, it just says, i don't going to put you that in uganda. most people think the village life is worse. but when they come to town, like can paula. they end up sleeping on streets. no food. they thought begging government. she create medium income, but high productive jobs. this is what kit goes and suggesting as actually needs to happen and do what are you advising governments today? i'm not too sure the best person to advise governments, but i think what we need to be taking to account is that it's not just climate change. it's impacting many of these countries. like if you will get anywhere from africa to sub saharan africa to, to f chemist on 60 percent of the populations rely on small small holder farming. there are other mega trends that are carrying out the climate change. you have a nice ation as yvonne was mentioning, you have a changing in, in livelihoods which are also impacting populations. people a saying that there is a future to them, which may not necessarily reflect where they are, what we're seeing with climate change, it's actually driving them. it's a people may say it's a threat multiplied, but i'd actually like to say it's a vulnerability multiplier. enjoying back to your, your video then. that same area that, that was shot on the video, whether it be in south sedan or in sedan. they were though heat last year by the same flooding. those populations, those villages lost the animals that they had last year. like do you seen the animals, their life? no. and if you had, if you had food stocks and you had seeds for the next plating season, they were all destroyed. so one of the big issues that marathon was mentioning was resilience. how long can communities continue to resist this on thought this cascading series of disasters? one after another and that's what climate change means. it's not some sort of hypothetical statistical formula which comes up. it is storms, it is flooding. it is droughts that are impacting population. they've got no choice out. we've got teams in the field to day evacuating refugees from o'connor camp. 35000 people. where do they go? like you saw the situation that is completely devastated. the whole communities have been so generous and providing protection support to these people. those 75000 people, they also had to move. so it's not some distant issue that can be put off to put off until after cop $26.00. yeah, this is the law office now on the front lines and now having to deal with into i've got some questions for you on youtube. i'm going to share them with you. this is was i don't think we can do anything about it. they have not met you yet him to maybe just talk about it. this has to how life is always been that famine or natural disasters, mitigation takes place and then life goes on. that feels like a shrug on youtube. hindu reaction. yeah, i mean we can do a lot of things about the working back and we need how we can prevent all of the fact that to do not be equal to the life of the community. because we cannot always way into the disaster response. these already to lay, but how we can play a plan. so i think just leave the lock countries not to take the responsibility in the money. right now. we know that the d 20 goes to meet. we know that the 26 is going back and actually now the you and you know, as somebody is going on the climate, what are they doing there? you have to stop talking and act. so when they ask, they have to reduce the initial not let by 20 to 50 next. you know, you know that many companies don't want to go next 2060, because they're part of the, i do see that we're putting our community in my community to black to be degree. so from the have to be at drought and up brought to a this is not our ability to lock candidates responsibility fact and can lead to play back. i think we, we do have the people mention of knowledge why we can combine them. try and give the exact way to kathy. when all is the fact that candy and did we need to eat lunch money anyway, here i'll stop. what am i to pay? of course when people migrate they, they just come to be seated and makes it more even how back. but of course, of being in the really, maybe they can get the solution, but they need to pay attention are in basic and back much where they can still have continue. their life likely won't even be, cannot get all what the me but they can build from their app solution that they have tradition of their own. so we need to do that today. we can't wait at all. so that's why i have to give them the response and i keep we can always walk to later in pass and if she, because not the community for them step comes with not the government for them to buy, do, do eat but get at my bill to prevention, i want to bring another voice into conversation gas, and this is from joanne lynn, who is being very pushy against the really big west and powerful nations in particular the united states have a listen. have a look. we are urging the, by the ministration to use their temporary protected status authorities to designate t p s. for those countries that have been afflicted by climate related disaster. we are also urging divide administration to use their existing deferred enforced departure authority to provide immigration relief for those individuals coming from countries that have been affected by climate disaster. 3rd, we are asking us immigration authorities to expand an interpreter prot, their definition of asylum law, to take into account those people who are on the run because the climate change. how effective is it, yvonne, to be lobbying, powerful government to say you need to have a climate change policy. you need to be out on the sun. people are fleeing because of climate change. i can see what john is coming from. it's when you look at the global, complex migration and the principles within it, the objective of it is that mr. moving the same direction. it's about how do we ensure the governments, the more wealthy countries, particularly the united states, in the case open the doors and receive migrants from me in as much as i respect that position. i also feel that it's missing a really fundamental aspect. and i prefer to focus on that in the global conduct of migration. the 3rd objective is to address the structural challenges which lead to migration which your migration and i think would be making a mistake to pay. to put our focus on emphasis on having, you know, immigration policy that are leading to welcoming yes, that's all good. but let's not take our right off the ball. what we really need to be focus on is, what do we do? i can do one thing to insure the governments take to their commitments, to reduce emission so that we are, we have a fighting chance of not being on the temperature increases. go to the level which will make our planet unsustainable. and at the same time and show that we have investments being made into cities in the global south countries, which are already as we've seen in the video, as you've heard it from the testimonies which are already feeling the impact of climate change every day. so with the mitigation focus mainly on the north and western countries. i've got cation critical now, in the global south. and for this there's a, there's a piece, the 2 pieces, which we need to put in place. that one is accept the finance for these adaptive measures for the upgrade. we've just had the meeting, as i said, we're talking about $350000.00 people, living informal specimens, moving them out of harm's way, will cost hundreds of millions of dollars. where will that money come from? so i respect your own view, but i would, i would rather we were focusing on how we improve the lot of the people in these situations so that they're not forced to flee. how do we do the investment? that was thing, how do we ensure that as investments in rural communities, so that there is job creation? how do we ensure it's andrew was saying that we have the early warning systems so that we, we can predict and see where things are coming. so we're planning, so they're missing elements, development controls, urban, tiny match, nature based solution, you know, planting of trees. these are practical solutions that can make a difference. now i would, i would really urge our focus to be in that direction. let me just show that she is not just talking the talk. she's walking the talk. i was checking out her twitter, have a look here. she's talking about flag mitigation, she sharing her paperwork. can you read this request for funding in order to commend early keating of drainage with the municipality in respect of the free town flood mitigation plan? 2021. the you can see this is a man who's actually trying to alleviate some of the flooding that she knows is going to happen. i want to bring in holiday here and you have a listen to hardy and then respond immediately of the back of in is if the endeavor to realty of populations moving because the climate change here years and re plug it back. so just love cycles and see the only thing, millions of people who live on living at a different location. i'm going to be compelled to stay going manage my life, measure such as saving holidays and you will do it options. why does this migration but not anymore? and also staff is down, city need to be able to migrate by providing the basics. so it's just like had showed up and people are moving academies. i think what mary von said was, was spot on there isn't this number elements we have to look at getting the g 20 in particular to mitigate because some of which is not taken to account sufficiently is that 80 percent of the missions, carbon emissions globally, 80 percent come from the g. 20 africa, for instance, contributes to a 3 percent. so this whole issue of who's responsible and who should be compensated still also has to be dealt with. it probably won't be in deep in a couple $26.00. but these issues we need to be, we'll hear the mitigation, elma, nothing is inevitable. however, if the adaptation, the ability for people to adapt to the changing environment is unable to deal with the consequences, then then people will have to move him already saying that. but the only thing which i would say and it was, it was raised by the, by the speaker just said it's a combination of things. it's climate, it's looking for livelihoods. it's also urban zation. they will be, they will be mass migration in the future. so we have to be prepared for that, that we, the science is out there, the evidence is out there. so there's no reason to be. it's no excuse, i would dare say to be surprised, but what happens the future? but also there's no excuse to leave situations so i can free town to themselves. so governments are important but, but probably some of the most important and useful discussions with people in the ground. and they are often the meds because actually know what's going on down here onto o'con. it is really not in this kids to just pay. they do not recognize that they're eat clermont, c, d. and they have to put in the financial way because the climate going to be ready . and we know that when all the catastrophe and our, our tv and our community piece to people, how they can call them. yeah. the economy, mega climate, you could, they cannot leave the room because they wanted to have more income. and also when we talk about that, you know, the migration but the 9 meg migration and you know how they can better when they're coming. actually asking when they come to be, they also come in they have last. what in the for now? hindu mary von andrew years and years around the world. thanks for being part of our show today. i'll see you next time. take everybody, ah news more new indians are going under the nar to become tall. ah, when i want to investigate the length some people are willing to go to reach new on al jazeera, around 200 ways. buyers have struck turkey in recent weeks, and also support has how to bring them on the control. almost a decade ago, west spaniel, martine was an exchange student in turkey's booster province. she had no idea she will be flying planes over touches, age, and coastline. to have combat wildfires be that is one of a dozen tie fighters who everite from spain to counter fires that have eaten up forest and pastures a long turkey's agent and mediterranean causes. in the distance headquarters revealed the attempt to buckets for another go at the fires, though many are now contained, others have stubbornly spread due to change in ruins. aircraft, how blade white to roll in these patients because they can cover long distances metro minutes, especially in mountainous terrain along turkey, south coast. when freedom of the press is under threat, you know, you just because i thought genuinely about your thoughts toward the bacon government. step outside the mainstream. there has been a implement here just some of access to the internet shift the focus, the panoramic that's turned out to be a handy little pretext of the prime minister, clamped down on the press covering the waves. the news is covered. so listening post on just unprompted and uninterrupted discussions from our london broadcast center on our jazeera, ah, hiring accounts of torture, from afghans as a return to a us prison, where they were held during the conflict. we have rare access to the jail, a background. ah, i don't know, clark, this is out there. a life also coming up. the world must wake up. we are on the hedge of an obese. sounding the alarm, the un chief cause on wells lead us to come together to address the multiple crises facing.

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