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close this period of relentless war, we're opening a new air of lenders, diplomacy of using the power of our development aid to invest in new ways and lifting people up around the world. over knowing in defending democracy, approving that no matter how challenging or how complex the problem is, you're going to face government by and for the people is still the best way to deliver for all of our people. the taliban has asked to address while the this at the un general assembly this week, though her bag spokesmen shall have sir hale while the shaheen has been named as the african baset to be nice nations. but the thief is contested spyglass as oxide, a representative of a gun, assad government, which was alfred last month. a committee will decide who to accept. i think condemnation after algebra video of the us border patrol agents on horseback aggressively pushing back migrants went viral. the un says whitehouse policy of deporting haitians could be a violation of international law. more people have been forced from the homes after a new volcanic vent. blue opened on one of spain's canary islands. rivers of lava had been flowing across the palm lessons interruption on sunday. egyptian general who took charge following the arab spring uprisings 10 years ago has died. hussein can tell we was a he 5, he served as egypt defense minister for more than 2 decades. people imagine tina a low longer required to masks outdoors is covered. 19 deaths and infections continue to fall. the number of people allowed him to restaurants. not tubs will increase. have to prove vaccination. the headlines up next is the story. say shortly, bye bye. talk to al jazeera, we what gives you hope that there is going to be peace because the situation on the ground seems to be pointing, otherwise we listen. we were never on whatever road to off migration. we meet with global news makers and talk about the stories on sera ah hi, ask me ok this week on the street. we are teaming up with united nations to tackle the major global issues. if you're new to right now, be in the comment section and be in the show. today as seen is looking at the millions of people car, a displaced by the climate crisis. i mean is the people who will be in the future. his re, to, to get our conversation started. the banks report states that 520-5216 1000000 migrants would be created as a result of back for climate change. now these migrant, an absence of any safety net or survival strategy, they're forced to pursue risky coping mechanisms. for example, taking loans from agents who then push them into the fundies because they're unable to pay that one of funding pay to fix traffic or trying to cross border for so i would, they had been pushed into hard labor prosecution. the 1st thing is, these climate impacts affect watson with a 2.5 degree global warming trajectory these eventually become twice as frequent and intensity. let me your gas. hello, andrew. hello, hello. hello marathon. so good to have all 3 of you with us today. andrew, please say hello to the international audience. tell them who you are. you doing? my name is andrew hopper. i'm the high commission is special advisor for climate action. and we are very much engaged in trying to protect the world's most vulnerable populations. but to build up preparedness and resilience of those generous states to the hosting them to, to have you. hello him to welcome back to the stream. always get to have you with us air, remind our audience who you are and what you do. hi everyone. my name is mario. here i am from chad, from border communities who are maybe leaving any p as in the climate change impact . they can confirm much for bringing us for the stream america. welcome back to the stream as well. always great to have you on the show room on our audience who you are and what you do in the context of today's conversation. thanks. ok, my name's we run a destroyer. i'm the mayor of the on the capital city of terry own and climates is one of the one of the forefront issues that were attacking and transferred to town . but besides and beyond what i do in my city, i'm also the co chair of the fi, 40 m. c, global tax for the on climate and migration. so seeing the perspective, not just my city, but from cities across the globe, i have so much expertise today, or, of course you can ask them questions any time. i'm going to start the close up of andrew fate. i'm going to ask him a question and i want, i want to see reaction what she's reaction andry when people talk to you about we have an issue with climate refugees. when you hear about fries be honest, take the phil to off. what do you say? this is one of the problems and why you're not being fair. but the things with, with climate refugees is not recognized on the international war. that's. that's the 1st thing, because refugees are a specific group of people who have fled or been persecuted across the sessional border. what we often don't recognize when we're talking about climate impacted populations is that they haven't actually cross the border that, that the people are being impacted. and they're staying within the, within the state boundaries. they don't move unless, unless they're not being supported enough. so the vast majority of people who are being impacted today, they're not moving that i want to move, they want to stay within the communities. they're the ones who are being the most vulnerable that been impacted. but it says the choice if there's no supports adaptation. if there's no support mitigation, then of course they will move to where they can find safety and dignity and the life. so when, when we talk about refugees, it's a very specific terminology. and this is why you asked, it means when people have been forced to cross the border. that being said, 90 percent of the world's refugees have come from a climate impact common impact country. so there's generally a, a wink nexus between climate and conflict may not necessarily be that clear, but it's something which we're sort of studying much more. and so our job is to ascertain what is driving people. why do they need protection? and to make sure they get that protection. so people using that phrase may be mistaken, but the situation is very serious. in july i went to your twitter feed. let's have a look at his pin tweet, and hindu pin. this tween last august. and another flood in my hometown, people losing life shelters, resources, especially women and children becoming displaced and refugees in their own city. hindu, this climate change impact on people's lives right now. tell us more. that's true. so when we talk about the climate change and the impact people like what is happening in the daily life of the community. and of course, i think just to throw in between, got people leave in these plans for how many years we've been treated in the children and just a one night slot. come in the throat all where all the life would be coming from one second to another. once a refugee, there are some counts. we have to move from the left and be no 1 am seeking, know where and we are shattered. nisha, i say it is actually happening last week in felt too bad. oh, really because i am tired. we cannot move in the enclave. they have to be camp inside the country or outside the country in order to get a pass. to see that andrea, and i'm really glad you mentioned south sedan because my colleague, kim morgan, he's an algebra english correspondent. she was reporting on that flood situation just a little while ago. like where we are in sudan a little bit, 7 north and south to don. hey, she is reporting on the flooding. this is what's new ala village in sudan state of white mile now looks like from above. it once had more than 80 homes, housing, dozens of families, but heavy rains in the east of the country resulted in flash floods that left the houses in ruins. le, right again in these houses belonged to me and my children. then the waters came at night about a week ago and started studying the village. they just moved in, but now everything has gone. i managed to save the cupboard, but it's destroyed. i don't know what will happen next. the only way to reach new ala now is by boat, and many of the villagers are using them to pick up whatever they can salvage mervin. i'm just looking at tweet that nazi centers just a little while ago. and matthew says on twitter, this is already happening here in zambia, talking about people being displaced by climate change, people migrating to the northern parts of ambia, leading to lots of livelihoods, communities, and creating cultural conflicts. what are you finding happening in sibley own a, particularly in freetown, then i am coming. so the flooding is the future. we've been working over the last 3 years. i've been there on mitigation activity trying to reduce reduced to incidence, to reduce the severity or the reality of we've seen in these videos. and as we've seen happening, even in europe this summer is the, this, the level of rain for the abnormally heavy rainfall, which is associated with climate change is, is a reality. there are limits to what anyone can do to prevent that actually having consequences. that said, part of what we was shown in the video just now the focus on the reins. tough half the story. the other half of the normal weather patterns is a lot of rain. so in as much as you have flooding, you also have drought. and what we're seeing in terms of the impact of these abnormal weather conditions is failure of crops failure of farming communities and an influx into the city. one of the things that you read out earlier is that 216000000 people are going to be displaced by climate, by 2050. we also have to just tell us, by 205070 percent of the world's population is going to be living in cities. we have this combined impact, which means fatigued, need to be ready. 50 need to be ready to deal with that influx the population. we're seeing that already, but they've also got to be adaptive because most of these vulnerable people find themselves li, find themselves in more vulnerable situations. they become the slum dwellers, those living an informal sacrament, on sleep, deep killed, or on the coastline. so you move, you're trying to escape the climate crisis and you put yourself in harm. danger this afternoon. i actually spent 3 hours with some colleagues, a consortium of n g o who had been working with us the last your on developing upgrade for informal set them or communities. both are put on the coat. so we see the climate emergency is putting more pressure on fatigue across the world. and in, in particularly in the global south. and what we need to do as city leaders, governance is ensure that we're putting in place the resilient interventions mitigation adaptation, housing, job creation. because the people are going to come, we also got to ensure that we are working in those areas such as where, where might my dear sister lives where, you know, in the rural areas is got to be investment is got to be adopted ition there as well so yes, we're seeing the impact and we've got through, we've got to respond. there's more coming. you mentioned 2.5 degrees. we know everybody's aiming at $1.00, but it's interesting that people are recognizing that $1.00 is unlike it could be achieved. so with that mean adaptation mitigation, it's got to be built in to government intervention. now, we know this is happening, address, hinges, and married like we know, this is when we know more people will be displaced. he goes, the on twitter just says, i don't going to put you that in uganda. most people think the village life is worse. but when they come to town, like can paula. they end up sleeping on streets. no food. they thought, begging government to create medium income, but high productive jobs. this is what kid goes. he's suggesting as actually needs to happen and do what do you advising governments today? i'm not to show him the best person to advise governments, but i think what we need to be taking to account is that it's not just climate change. it's impacting many of these countries. like if you will get anywhere from africa to sub saharan africa, to, to africanist on 60 percent of the populations rely on small small holder farming. there are other mega trends that are carrying out the climate change. you have a nice ation as yvonne was mentioning, you have a changing in, in livelihoods which are also impacting populations. people a saying that there is a future to them, which may not necessarily reflect where they are, what we're saying with climate change. it's actually driving them, it's a people may say it's a threat multiplied, but i'd actually like to say it's a vulnerability multiplier. enjoying back to your, your video then. that same area that you, that was shot on the video. whether it be in south sedan or in sedan, they were though heat last year by the same flooding. yeah. those populations, those villages lost the animals that they had last year. but do you seen the animals, their life? no. and if you had, if you had food stocks and you had seeds for the next planting season, they were all destroyed. so one of the big issues that marathon was mentioning was resilience. how long can communities continue to resist this on thought this cascading series of disasters? one after another and that's what climate change means. it's not some sort of hypothetical statistical formula which comes up. it is storms, it is flooding. it is droughts that are impacting population. they've got no choice out. we've got teams in the field to day evacuating refugees from con a camp, 35000 people. where do they go? like you saw the situation that is completely devastated. the whole communities have been so generous and providing protection support to these people. those 75000 people, they also had to move. so it's not some distant issue that can be put off to put off until after cop $26.00. yeah, this is the law office now on the front lines. and now having to deal with hindu, i've got some questions for you on youtube. i'm going to share them with you. this is was some, i don't think we can do anything about it. they have not met you yet tend to maybe just talk about it. this has how life is always been that famine or natural disasters, mitigation takes place and then life goes on. that feels like a shrug on youtube. hindu reaction. yeah, i mean we can do a lot of things about the working better. we need how we can put a bank on the 2nd to do that. be continuous life for the community because we can not always weigh into the disaster response. these are ready to lay, but how we can play, i think just leave the lock countries math to take the responsibility in the money do it right now. we know that the g 20 goes to meet. we know that the 2060 is going back and actually now the you and you know, somebody is going on the ground with me. what are they doing there? you have to stop talking and act. so when they ask, they have to reduce the initial not let about 20 to 50 next. you know, we know that many companies don't want to go next, you know, 2060 need that part of the i do see that we're putting our community in my community to black to the degree. so for me to be at drought and up brought to a this is not our responsibility luck candidates, responsibility backs. and secondly, to play rackets. i think we, we do have the people mentioned not why we can combine them, try and give the exact weight of what cost in order to prevent all the factors that are coming. and then we need to eat lunch. when i come in and we hear, i'll stop what my pay, of course, when people migrate they, they just come to be seated and makes it more even how back. but of course of being in the really, maybe they can get the solution, but they need attention or in the back much where they can still have continued their life life. even. they cannot get all what the me but they can build from their app solution that they have traditional on. so we need to do that today. we can't wait at all, so that's why i have to give them the response. and i keep, we can always walk to later in pass and if she, because not the community beyond, for them that comes with not the government for them to buy do, do we need? but to get my bill to prevention, i want to bring another voice into our conversation gas. and this is from joanne lynn, who is being very pushy against the really big west and powerful nations. in particular, the united states have a listen. have a look. we are urging the, by the ministration to use their temporary protected status authorities to designate t p s. for those countries that have been afflicted by climate related disaster. we are also urging divide administration to use their existing deferred enforced departure authority to provide immigration relief for those individuals coming from countries that have been affected by climate disaster. or we are asking us immigration authorities to expand an interpreter, brot, their definition of asylum law, to take into account those people who are on the run because the climate change climate change policy, you need to be to understand people are fleeing because of climate change. i can, how effective is it, yvonne, to be lobbying powerful governments to say you need to have a to see what john is coming from. it's when you look at the global, complex migration and the, the, the principles within it. the objective of it is that mr. moving the same direction, it's about how do we ensure the governments, the more wealth become chief, particularly the united states, and the case open the doors and receive migrants from me in as much as i respect that position. i also feel that it's missing a really fundamental aspect, and i prefer to focus on that in the global conduct of migration. the 3rd objective is to address the structural challenges which lead to migration, which your migration and i think would be making a mistake to pay. to put our focus on emphasis on having, you know, immigration policy that are leading to welcoming yes, that's all good. well, let's not take our right off the ball. what we really need to be focus on is, what do we do? i can do a thing to ensure the governments fix their commitments to reduce emission so that we are, we have a fighting chance of not being on the temperature increases go to the level which will make our planet unsustainable. and at the same time and show that we have investments being made into cities in the global south countries, which are already as we've seen in the video, as you've heard it from the testimonies which are already feeling the impact of climate change every day. so with the mitigation focus mainly on the north and western countries. i got cation critical. now, in the global south, and for this there's a, there's a piece, the 2 pieces, which we need to put in place. that one is accept the finance for these active measures for the upgrade. we've just had this meeting. as i said, we're talking about 350000 people living in form of spectrum and moving them out of harm's way. will cost hundreds of millions of dollars. where will that money come from? so i respect your own view, but i would, i would rather we were focusing on how we improve the lot of the people in these situations so that they're not forced to 3. how do we do the investment team with thing? how do we ensure that as investments in rural communities, so that there is job creation? how do we ensure it's andrew was saying that we have the early warning systems so that we, we can predict and see where things are coming. so we're planning so they're missing elements, development, control, urban, tiny match, nature based solution, you know, planting of trees. these are practical solution that can make a difference. now i would, i would really urge our focus to be in that direction. let me just show that she is not just talking the talk. she's walking the talk. i was checking out her twitch. i have a look here, she's talking about flood mitigation, she sharing her paperwork. can you read this request the funding in order to commend early keating of drainage with the municipality in respect of the free town flooded medication plan? 2021. so you can see this is a man who's actually trying to alleviate some of the flooding that she knows is going to happen. i want to bring in holiday here and you have a listen to hardy and then respond immediately of the back of him is the never to realty of populations moving because of climate change. here he is angry climate change impacts. so just love site laws as you know, lifting millions of people into the homes like living at a different location. so i'm going to be compelled to state governments like measure such as holidays and you will that dude options white at the migration, but foundations are not going to be any more. and also stances down the city need to be coming to migrate by providing the basic so it's just like head and 2 people are moving, make enemies. i think what mary von said was, was spot on there isn't this number elements we have to look at getting the g 20 in particular to mitigate because some of which is not taken to account sufficiently is that 80 percent of the missions, carbon emissions globally, 80 percent come from the g. 20 africa, for instance, contributes to a 3 percent. so this whole issue of who's responsible and who should be compensated still also has to be dealt with. it probably won't be in deep in a couple $26.00. but these issues we need to be, we'll hear the mitigation, elma, nothing is inevitable. however, if the adaptation, the ability for people to adapt to the changing environment is unable to deal with the consequences, then then people will have to move him already saying that. but the only thing which i would say and it was, it was raised by the, by the speaker just said it's a combination of things. it's climate, it's looking for livelihoods. it's also urban zation. they will be, they will be mass migration in the future. so we have to be prepared for that, that we, the science is out there, the evidence is out there. so there's no reason to be. it's no excuse, i would dare say to be surprised, but what happens the future? but also there's no excuse to leave situations so i can free town to themselves. so governments are important but, but probably some of the most important and useful discussions with people in the ground. and they are often the meds because actually know what's going on down here on twitter. oh, go ahead honey. it is really not in this kids to just pay. they do not recognize that they're eat clermont, c, d, and they have to put in the financial way because the climate going to be ready. and we know that when all the catastrophe and our, our tv and our community piece to people, how they can call them. yeah. the economy, mega climate. you could, they cannot leave the room because they wanted to have more income. and also when we talk about that, you know, the migration but the, my mega migration and you know how they actually better when they're coming, actually asking when they come to be. they also come in, they have last. what in the for now? hinder mary von andrew, you 2 years and years around the world, thanks for being part of our show today. i'll see you next time. take everybody. ah . when freedom of the press is under threat? you know how to con, thought genuinely about your thoughts towards making government step outside the mainstream. there has been a implement here just some of access points. the internet shift, the focus, the pandemic that's turned out to be a handy little pretext. the prime minister to clamp down on the press covering the waves. the news is covered. so listening post on the agenda, they have been waiting for weeks to be allowed to cross the call for now, which finally happening, thousands of migrants were allowed to travel to the town of i can be where the journey towards the darian gap and i dense jungle on the border between my uncle to on the begin, this is the 1st time micro using this crossing. people be around $100.00 each to the guy. locals are involved in the business. they offered to take migrant on cards, tractors, and motorcycle. but only a part of the way, those who cannot afford it have to go on foot. the pace, it's fast, and the heat and humidity makes it difficult for the most vulnerable. there are lots of women carrying very young children. this one, for example, is only a month and a half. it's a dangerous journey, and many do not make it across the jungle. migrants know the risks. they say they have no choice. this is held through most vicious where the slightest error means a one way ticket over the edge. we have that we may not come back home. we may not meet children breathing tough conditions facing death at every time. what does that kid? they'll gamble with their lives, just to uninstall the risk and it's all on our 0 i the world must wake up. we are on the hedge of an obese. sounding the alarm, the un chief calls on will be this to come together to address the multiple proxy. thanks ah vanelle. this is elder law from of the coming up the bite and administration is under 5 for reporting haitian migrant seeking asylum in the u. s. u n says the expulsion bank violate.

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