president trump his wife and his children 4 out of his 5 children for a grand formal welcome from the queen he will have caught a glimpse of course from the windows of marine one all of the protests going on but they'll be much bigger on tuesday some more of that to a wreath laying ceremony at westminster abbey at the tomb of the unknown soldier t. in the afternoon with prince charles and the duchess of cornwall camilla and he's resting up now ahead of the high point of this state visit the full state banquet here at buckingham palace in about an hour's time 113 of these that the queen has hosted the state visits 67 years on the throne she said plenty of experience dealing with all sizes manners shapes of world leaders donald trump in a sense would come as any surprise to her though even she will find it difficult perhaps dealing with the amount of controversy that he's able to generate in the courts everywhere he goes from insults hurled at the mayor of london to criticisms of the prime minister over her handling of brain. ok raul going on with the duchess of sussex megan muckle he called her nasty she called him a missile genest and so on it all makes for what even ordinary circumstances and granted these are not they but in ordinary circumstances would be a pretty lively dinner table chat this evening and you could hardly pick a worse week for the u.k. . you could absolutely not pick a worse week for a visit like this to happen just 2 weeks ago remember to reserve may the prime minister announced her intention to quit at the end of this week on friday off to a state visit maintaining some kind of thinly veiled pretense that she remains the prime minister while donald trump is here and of course there is no disguising the fact that behind the scenes in fact not behind the scenes at all there is a fierce leadership contest going on to succeed into which donald trump has waded headlong he's endorsed the idea of britain leaving the european union on october 31st with no deal something many people find. horrific prospect he's indorsed boris johnson the leading candidate in the race as a person he thinks will make a very good prime minister he says nigel farage the leader of the brics it party a far right politician currently making big waves here is one of his friends and indeed both boris johnson and nigel faraj are expected to be on the guest list at a return banquet at the u.s. ambassador's residence tomorrow night in amongst all of this pomp protocol and ceremony of course there will be a meeting at number 10 downing street with a prime minister who is really only prime minister made at the moment ok jonah hall thank you. still ahead on al-jazeera missing and murdered their report on what's described as a can maybe in genocide. back on track a court victory that'll allow caster semenya to compete in her favor of race so for now. hello again it's good to have you back well fairly dry across much of the levant and you can see not a lot of clouds here on our satellite image of you coming off the mediterranean but not me and he really going to bring any relief in terms of rain so temperature wise aleppo at $34.00 degrees over here towards beirut at 30 baghdad $45.00 degrees is your forecast high here on tuesday and as we go towards wednesday really not changing too much there prachi a high temperature if you of 40 degrees well across much of the gulf and the arabian peninsula we're looking fairly dry as well temperatures into the forty's and low forty's for many locations but down along the coast for yemen as well as into oman we may see a few clouds there a high temperature few of 32 degrees muscat at 34 and abu dhabi by the time we get to wednesday 40 degrees for you and then very quickly across parts of southern africa where you have some clouds along much of the cape those could bring a few rain showers or 2 but in terms of the temperature winds as well cape town 16 degrees there over here towards medicare or it is going to be rain across much of the area particularly that eastern coast but for the capital $1000.00 degrees as we go from tuesday in harare it is going to be a nice day at 24 but johannesburg is going to be 21 in durban with sun in your forecast at 27. it's my privilege to name al-jazeera english the broadcaster of the year the country has a fight each other that we've been told that we can still hear these is the largest demonstration that's been held by will lead to refugees since over $700.00 you'd like to hear some of the emerges moving from the planet earth to you all the big debate could be put there to hear. from recipients of the new crystals called coast to. the city. the top stories on al-jazeera donald trump is in britain for a 3 day state visit in his 1st official engagement the u.s. president and his wife melania attended a ceremony hosted by queen elizabeth the 2nd and other members of the royal family buckingham palace and you're looking at live pictures right now from central london are protesters have come out to protest and voice their concern about trump's they visit to the u k. at least 13 people have been killed and many more seriously injured after a heavily armed troops opened fire on demonstrators and threw don put this is say the violence began when troops tried to break up a protest outside the military headquarters in the capital hard to. protest leaders have called for a general strike and nationwide civil disobedience until the gintaras overthrown a new barricades have been put up in towns and cities across and on the ruling say they will send an invitation to the protesters to resume negotiations. the european union is calling on sudan's most regions out to respect people's right to protest. tennesee to us we are following how the situation is evolving in sudan very closely including today's attacks on civilian protesters and we call on the transitional military council to act responsibly and respect people's right to peacefully express their concerns. intensify any decision to intensify the use of force can only do rail the political process and as you know the european union is priority remains to rapid transfer of power to visit authority. to roslan marston she's an associate fellow of the africa program at chatham house is also the former e.u. special representative for sudan and south sudan and the former british ambassador to sudan's joining us from london thanks very much for speaking to us does the statement on sudan go far enough. well i mean i think it's obviously the 1st thing is that the european union the the u.k. the united states the u.n. and everyone has condemned the very serious shocking use of violence this morning by the transitional military council they've also all called for current ability and the military council fully responsible for what has happened i think the question is whether these statements will then be followed by concrete action for example will there be a u.n. security council now discussion on the subject in the next few days i think many people expect that that would be the case of the plotting out of those things they always was just reporting from the united nations in fact saying that so far there has not been a u.n. security council meeting are you surprised by that. well i think i think as your your correspondent mentioned i perhaps the reason is that 1st of all trying to get the o's with the african union to see if the you know they can do things in some sort of coordination i think one of the one of the steps that some organizations are calling for are targeted sanctions against the individuals responsible primarily responsible for the violence so we wait to see how the coals or the statements for accountability which have been stress for example by the british foreign secretary how that's going to be translated into action yeah that is the question because the foreign secretary jeremy hunt did tweet that the military council bears full responsibility for this action and the international community will hold it to account but for the e.u. for the united kingdom there will deplore violence as we've heard in the past but will they actually do anything what would you like to see them do. well i mean i think we should also listen to what what the forces of freedom and for forces for freedom and change and sudar they're calling for they were at least some of the opposition leaders of. the un security council in the african union to now did moland an immediate transfer of power from the transitional military council to a democratic civilian government led by the forces of freedom and change as well as an immediate end to saddam's internal wars so i think that is a very clear developing from that i think has. your reporters also made clear the protest movement regards what happened this morning as a major betrayal of trust of the sudanese people who were ready to regard the military council as partners in a process of democratization but that trust has been now very severely shaken that has been betrayed you know on the issue of saying we see the value and we can see it apologies apologies are rosalyn but on the issues of the civilian led government even a german official is saying that the violence greatly in danger is the process of handing over a governing powers to a civilian led government is that even still possible at this point or is the solution now in a transition to a civilian government further than ever before. well i think this is being a major step backwards to achieving stability in sudar i think the best solution would be that this was what perhaps would have been possible until the events of earlier today to try to reach a political settlement between the forces of freedom and change of the military council whereby as had already been agreed there would have been a 3 year transitional period and a joint sovereign council in which the military of the civilians would have shared . power in that council and with perhaps a rotating chair the chairmanship that was one of the proposal there would be a civilian cap of that with a civilian prime minister but that those talks stalled as i said i think as far as the protest movements are concerned. their faith or trust in the military council now is being very very severely shaken all right rosalind mars then we thank you very much for speaking to us from london muslim ministers and regional governors have resigned in sri lanka following protests led by a hardline buddhist monk on a hunger strike at the riley a restaurant a pharaoh's also a member of parliament he and his supporters are accusing muslim politicians of enabling the easter sunday attacks allegations they deny 258 people were killed when a friend as has more from colombo. the fun standard death launched by the venerable after the leave after an affair or was very much in frasier ing the president and the government essentially to remove 3 key figures the minister of trade and commerce as well as 2 governors of that who is serving in the eastern province as well as a province of the governor in the western province all of these 3 muslims and these nationalists sort of can't be in the buddhist monk. and those who supported him said that all of these 2 figures had been associated with the terrorist the deed basically accused them of being involved with extremism and having helped or aided in terms of the stream isn't that ultimately led to the easter sunday carnage or since then we've had the collective resignation by all muslim ministers deputy ministers and state minister serving in government of being have basically taken this decision because they see that the culture of impunity deep with relation to hate speech against the muslim community has reached a level that cannot be accepted that in terms of a decision that they have made that scene or option to get this decision to allow law enforcement authorities the space the time to essentially investigate anyone among them for the links that they have been accused of links with terrorist and terrorism. after more than 2 years of inquiries the canadian government sets a receiver report on missing and murdered indigenous women the report's already been leaked and it calls the disappearance and murder of possibly thousands of women a canadian genocide she have a chance he spoke to some of those affected by the violence about what they hope the inquiry will achieve. maggies i wouldn't sister sonia was murdered in 1904 yet she had so little faith in the national inquiry into missing and murdered indigenous women and girls she chose not to testify families want to be. police killings that had taken place investigated they wanted their missing brought home so those kinds of things are never able to be not able to have been answered with this inquiry it's not that they haven't been calls for a specific investigation into the disproportionate violence directed at indigenous women in canada just 4 percent of the population but 16 percent of reported nationwide homicides justin trudeau followed through on his campaign pledge announcing inquiry in 2015 and the inquiries go was not simply a long awaited official recognition of decades of brutality the work that we're going to be doing research and care systemic causes for a murderous and just the parents after 2 and a half years and $68000000.00 it appears that the inquiry will basically state the obvious the problem lies in the economic and social marginalization of indigenous communities institutional racism violence and indifference to the all out quite overt cultural war waged against the indigenous by the canadian state hilda allison pitts assistant dormice found dead in 2011 her body badly bruised but authorities blamed exposure due to intoxication like many she's critical of how rushed the inquiry seemed as it parish it into communities without building trust and asked for painful testimony in an institutional setting reminiscent of the judicial system that attacks the indigenous nonetheless she found testifying to the inquiry worthwhile for many they never shared their story with anybody prior to the national inquiry coming forward and they felt they could take their story and leave it there and move forward in their healing process hilda is skeptical but feels it's a disservice to all those who like her share the. truth to dismiss the possibility that the inquiry will lead to meaningful change just getting this message out is an achievement i think it's really important. to recognize that many indigenous women and girls who live in 1st nations 1st nation communities are living in 3rd condition but while few will dispute the reported findings of the inquiry some wonder what good any recommendations will be if the federal and provincial governments of the woman's expect to be in charge of implementation. colonial government executing to a clonal governments and that is the reason why we have missing and murdered it's genocide canada is not the only country built on collude you'll violence genocide as the inquiry has reportedly found but the government does have yet another opportunity to address that legacy on monday she every time c.l. jazeera. caster semenya has been cleared to compete in her favorite events for now an appeal to the swiss federal courts double olympic $800.00 metres champion lost her challenge at the court of arbitration for sport against the introduction of rules by the sport's governing body restricting the levels of testosterone and female athletes so many a face the prospect of taking medication to reduce her levels or compete in longer distance races the ruling made by c.s. is suspended until her case is heard by the swiss courts. the headlines on al jazeera the death toll from violence in sudan's capital has risen to 30 and many more are injured after heavily armed paramilitary soldiers opened fire on a protest camp outside the military headquarters in parts of. protest leaders have called for a general strike a nationwide civil disobedience and overthrow in new barricades have been put up in towns and cities across the done and the ruling say they will send an invitation to the protesters to resume negotiations donald trump is in britain for a 3 day state visit in his 1st official engagements for u.s. president and his wife melania attended a ceremony hosted by queen elizabeth the seconds and other members of the royal family of buffy in palace these are live pictures right now from central london where protesters come out and there they're concerned protesting as well over donald trump's state visit to the u.k. muslim ministers and regional governors are resigned in sri lanka following protests led by a hardline buddhist monk on a hunger strike. pharaoh's also a member of parliament he and his supporters are accusing muslim politicians of enabling the easter sunday attacks allegations they deny trying towards the u.k. back in washington talks are going on between u.s. and mexican diplomats to resolve a dispute over migration that prompted the president to threaten tariffs it's unclear what mexico can do to satisfy trump's demands to stop people crossing the border illegally after more than 2 years of inquiries the canadian government has received a report on missing and murdered indigenous women the report calls the disappearance and murder of possibly thousands of women at kennedy and genocide. cement has been cleared to compete in her favorite events for now after lodging an appeal to the swiss federal courts the double olympic $800.00 metres champion lost her challenge at the court of arbitration for sport against the introduction of rules by the sport's governing body restricting the levels of testosterone and female athletes so many a face the prospect of taking medication to reduce her levels or competes in longer distance races the ruling is suspended until her case is heard by the swiss courts inside stories coming up next on al-jazeera. sudan's military join to shirts and kill protesters calling for democracy does this end hopes of a transition to civilian rule and why hasn't the international community stepped in this is insight story. hello and welcome to the program on how he had seen after months of peaceful demonstrations for civilian rule siddons military jinsa has had enough security forces carried out to dawn raids to break up a citizen outside the army's headquarters in the capital khartoum. many were killed others critically wounded by bullets and tear gas soldiers then stormed a hospital and shot at the injured the main opposition group has stopped all contacts with the transitional military council that has been in power since april its colon for civil disobedience and till the military regime is overthrown but al jazeera has been banned from reporting from sudan but we've heard firsthand accounts from protesters here's their testimony of the military crackdown as it happens. it's a massacre not to come has happened ok and we are and i am from here i am demanding i am requesting i'm telling the international community and the u.n. to help so that these godlike nonviolent civilians and the demolition of the heavy thing is all over the place and he is taking over which was not i am going to hear is that you know when you are running on to why running what are you running away from being there are they coming from this and if they didn't want to come in from different side streets and the like even if it's 3 so it sounds like the. number who is approaching who you are who you actually running with on sunday said. we're we're being attacked by easy rocket body or to the police but there's something that i witnessed which was really interesting when directed by the forces where were the police forces to disperse the protests from the night streets will be turned but the focus area some part. of the record we're trying to stop the police they were they were pushing the police back. home and shouting will call you for the military to fire live around bullets on the protesters and on our nation and you stand and watch this is the scene i can't even describe our people came to the square for a sit in because this is our country and it's cowardly for you to watch this happening and do nothing we're calling on the security forces to move without instruction from their seniors to do something about this to protect this nation what they're going to do what my plan is like. a 100 folks forces on board because the they came from politics so they've got this is. the barricades around the around the around the square because the military vehicles and. big trucks announcing that actually now we are part of been reached actually the libyan. sit in the square. you didn't like using tear gas. well the crackdown has been condemned internationally the british foreign secretary jeremy hunt called it an outrageous step that will only leads to more polarization and violence and the u.s. embassy in khartoum says the attack on protesters and civilians is wrong and must be stopped and the responsibility for that slice with the military council well egypt supports the military jointer and has called on all parties to exercise restraint saying egypt's is following the recent events in sudan and their repertoire sions with great concern egypt also underscores the importance that all sudanese sides commits to calm self-restraint and return to the negotiating table. well let's bring in our panel from washington d.c. david shinn a former deputy chief of mission at the u.s. embassy in sudan from kill in the u.k. we're joined by our will alow a senior lecturer at university and also joining us from washington d.c. allie verjee a visiting researcher at the united states institute of peace gentlemen thank you all for taking part in this discussion my 1st question goes see you ali verjee in washington d.c. my 1st question is was this inevitable in some way that we would see a cracked zone from the military after out after weeks of stalemates and. no progress being made on the transition of power. the warning signs have been there the military council has itself warned that it wasn't going to tolerate further disruption and in the last few days before today there have been several killings on the streets of khartoum so what's happened today in khartoum and also in other cities beyond the capital wasn't entirely surprising it is unfortunate it does suggest that the military council has been stalling for time the negotiations haven't really been going anywhere and now it has moved quite violently against the protesters in a completely unacceptable way and perhaps with premeditation you don't get this kind of crackdown at the end of ramadan approaching just by accident so it really demonstrates that the transitional military council isn't necessarily committed to a peaceful transition to par despite what they've said and promised to to put in place in sudan and i'll pick you up on the on those points in just a 2nd but i will tell you in the u.k. would you agree with that that there is there was a certain inevitability to the way that this is broken day. absolutely i think there have been very clear signals indications over the course of the last several weeks that there will be and is collation in the sense that the military have some interest and interests that it wants to protect in order for it to protect sources interest including protecting itself from accountability for past abuses it is important for them to maintain an important part of the transitional out or to the transitional government so this is taking issue between the alliance of opposition groups and the mini council which is the composition of the. tortie is precisely i think valid power that they needed in order to preserve their own interest they're also broader i think a regional issues that are in some ways a layer to the current escalation but certainly i agree with the ghost that these words inevitable and signs were all around ok well we'll go on to the regional issues in a moment but david shinn joining us from washington d.c. we've heard 2 guests now they've said that this was inevitable that the warning signs were there for some time why do you think the military have done this why do you think the military have moved not just in khartoum but in cities across it and of course these protests. i think it's a question of frustration building up on both sides the military feels that it's not getting control of the situation desperately reaching out to try to get control doing it in a way which is i'm afraid going to be a serious setback towards any kind of peaceful resolution of the conflict. but both sides seem to be digging in and i don't see that this kind of a response by the military is going to advance at all the prospects for resolving this in some kind of a reasonable way. both sides are going to have to step back of this is going to work is the other thing significance in the timing of this cracked. verjee you were talking about how this is coming at the ends of ramadan we talked about how this is a dorm reads and there seemed to be elements of coordination given that was not just in khartoum but several cities and areas across sue done but in terms of the tie you make is there anything significance about the time that this took place. well let me just be clear 1st i don't think this is inevitable i think this is a deliberate choice by the military council to act against the protesters and the warning signs were there but it could have been averted in terms of the timing certainly i think as david shinn has just said there's been some growing frustration on the part of the military council but i also think the military council understands that if it acts against the protesters and disperses the protesters in khartoum then in some warped logic it feels this strengthens its position particularly if there isn't a broader response from the african union and from the international community more broadly so in terms of timing there is a question as to you know would it have mattered if it happened a week from now or week before now i'm not sure that is necessarily as significant but there is clearly a deadline for the transitional military council. the june 30th by which the african union said this is the end date you have and so that timeline is in mind but i think they're more driven by their internal dynamics and their internal desire to present themselves as a legitimate authority of course paradoxically these actions only in my eyes and further you said you think this was a very deliberate choice by the military why do you think then that they've taken this choice and they've taken it now after saying that they were prepared to negotiate with protest well we hear 2 things because even today one of the spokesman of the military council has said we weren't targeting the sit inside we were targeting an adjacent site and i'm really protesters so you see there is some reluctance to be fully accepting of what they've done i think there the question of timing today or in the last few days because it's clearly been been building suggests that they are out of patience and there is an internal dynamic to the try . it's normal tree council and different members of it that we're really unable to fully divine but it is there and there is tension there is a reality that this is an internal reconfiguration of the security actors within sudan as well but overall i think there is a general sense that they can get away with this and that in some ways this is very much pulling from the playbook of bashir and what happened prior to april with this talk of repressing the protesters and making it all go away so ultimately it was a calculation that there won't be consequences or there won't be serious consequences for the military council. would you agree with that what do you think there is another element of the significance of the timing of this particular crackdown are they following the plea because bashir are the emboldened and some other way. i think there is an external dimension to this you remember recently both the head and the deep with the head of the transitional military council general i brought her and general ham down visited saudi arabia it is really a few days time after returning from saudi arabia they is collated their rhetorical basically referring to protesters as a traitor to the stability and security of sudan so this turn in kind of security i think the protest movement followed shortly after that meeting and i think you know the fact that the saudis and immoralities have expressed support for the to understand or to consul they're supporting them financially in the fight that this escalation can sided with the return of the visit of these 2 very important individuals in remember the. head of the military council is the man who is in charge of the support forces who are suspected of perpetrating these abuses to date so the fact that i think this happened shortly after they returned from from saudi suggests that there is certainly an encouragement of some sort on the part of this hour sort of comment on you know the point that. really raised in terms of the. the warning by the african union i don't think sudan or the pretty consulate particularly worried about the threat from the outer can come from the african union to suspend sudan from from the membership of the union this is a sort of warning that the line is in june but even if sudan was to be suspended i think the likelihood of that happening with egypt as president of the union is very small but even if that was to happen sudan knows that that is not really going to affect it in any significant way it was suspended in july of 2. 113 when the military removed the democratically elected president there and nothing really happened to to egypt it was accepted by can now it is the president of the african union well let's let's turn the discussion now to this incident di i mention certainly both. you've brought up the the african union but david shinn if i could turn to you one thing we have been hearing from protesters who have contacted al-jazeera throughout the day is they're looking for the ensor national community to intervene they're looking for international access to step in and help them my 1st question i guess is who are the international community that they are reaching out see because we have heard from other international actors the saudi arabia the emirates seas who have been intervening one could argue by their having dialogue with the military cancels so david shinn. would you say the residents international community that would be prepared to help and in serving there are the international community is not united on a position towards what is happening in sudan i think the 3 critical players today are egypt united arab emirates and saudi arabia egypt because of its longstanding interests in sudan the fact that it is currently chair of the african union is in a position to play a key role in the african union the m.r.i. it is on the saudis because of their financial support for the transitional military council. these are the 3 countries that have the greatest prospect for influencing either for better or worse what happens there i'm also a little bit surprised that the african regional players are not more engaged in what is happening and sadam this would be a time for ethiopia to step up and put more pressure on the transitional military council in addis or in khartoum in an effort to try to influence them in a more reasonable direction if you look further beyond the the gulf states and the african states and the african union i don't really see that much taking place by the europeans or the americans there wringing their hands or issuing statements condemning violence. i don't see them stepping in and in any meaningful way possibly you could resume some sanctions on sudan but that will not have any immediate impact upon the situation and why they are the europeans and the americans why are they no it's prepared. i think it's just in the nature of the european and the american government not to engage in any kind of a military way other than issuing statements and possibly increasing sanctions they're not willing to go beyond that that's that's what's going on in europe and the united states today ok. do you think there is a creates a rule for african states such as such as ethiopia for example to intervene. oh absolutely there's a greater on the me 1st agree with that i wasn't suggesting that the june 30th african union deadline was what was going to drive the behavior of the transitional military council in terms of what the deadline meant what i was suggesting was that in terms of the timing of this violence that happens now at the beginning of june rather than the end of june because of that deadline it would look very bad for the transitional council even if they were going to ignore the african union deadline so it doesn't look great no. regardless of where you are great now but it looks even worse it looks even worse in 3 weeks time or 4 weeks time i think ethiopia and the rest of the region or countries it's unlikely they're going to get involved in ethiopia's consume to its own internal realities it's not going to really demonstrate any meaningful restraint over khartoum unfortunately so it does come back to as has been mentioned egypt and saudi and the emirates in particular but i think there is a role for other gulf countries as well including cutter and there is ringback still i think a role for the americans and the europeans because clearly the messages of restraint that have been asked for by basters and embassies and senior officials that hasn't been enough you know diplomacy by tweet is not going to cause the military council to demonstrate restraint but there are further actions that can be taken that would show at least even if they're not going to change the total trajectory of what's happening they would show at least that there is a consequence there is a serious outcome that comes when you kill people for no good reason whatsoever. i will do you think that there is a greater role other than tweets because as we know it's easy to issue statements is easy to tweet out your 140 characters a condemnation but if there's nothing backing that up. what essentially is the point so in terms of a greater role from the u.s. or or europe what do you think that might constitute. i think you are i think you raised a very important question which is whether there is an international community today and if there is what that looks like and in my view there's not really a body that that that count as an international community aside a community the kind of defend a certain idea certain values instead of simply acting built on specific national interests or on the basis of kind of transactional considerations so from the point of view i think the cries of the sudanese for voice and hearing on the part of the international community not to do much but to simply uphold the key kind of central instruments that brought this community together and created what is international organization that is not a lot to us the but in practical terms i think it is very difficult for. for sudanese at this stage to expect anything from the u.s. administration which is significantly retreating from multilateralism and not taking issues of human rights and democracy seriously at all and the europeans also intervene in african states or in global 1000 more generally when they have a very particular kind of interest if we don't have strong political interest they are usually reluctant i think regional countries. you know the so d.c. minorities and the and egyptians have a very particular interest they are influential somebody. said but they are very clearly on the side of the military. say it has its own issues it is going through a period of very difficult transition and i think it will nor to have the means and the resources to go beyond its own problems and some will try to address this with a new solution ok jets of them are in the dying minutes of this debate unfortunately just quickly what does the future hold is this and i offer no game over for the protesters if i could ask you to be very brief in your answers starting with david shinn you know i must say i am less optimistic now than i have been since this began in early april of up until now i've been quite optimistic we've had a couple of these incidents before and the both sides of whether the problem but this is gotten far more serious and i'm very concerned ok ali verjee for the protesters have been resilience they've mobilized repeatedly they've shown they have staying power what they haven't been able to do is overcome the intransigence of the military even though they've had some successes and that's going to continue to be the issue but i think they're still going to be able to mobilize quite significantly ok and the final thought to you is this the end of the uprising what does the future hold for the protesters. i don't think so i think there is still room for compromise i think we can still go back and think and with those initial arguments that they have sketched out i think there are rooms steel to agree known as early on the composition of the supreme council but also on the other institutions and there is a way in which they can go away and distribute power more evenly i think that is a much better position if if the opposition has to compromise and if this transition means going incrementally i think that's a much better position than the situation we have now or the possible solution of the phone situation a bit here with the protesters that are talk with this that are willing this from the military to talk out well. so the military council or the studio or you know our mr rhetorical it is open to discussions so you know the parties are very well known on the one hand you have the military council on the other hand you have the forces for freedom and change we can still go bag and negotiate and i agree on a deal and i think there are things that the military council has to compromise and also things that the opposition group can live with us ok and we'll have to wait and see if either side will be prepared to compromise but for their agenda but i'd like to thank you very much for this debate thank you to david shinn our alow and allie verjee i'd like to thank you too for watching you can see the program again any time by visiting our web sites al-jazeera dot com and the conversation continues online take part spy heading to our facebook page for a slash a.j. inside story or you can head to twitter our handle is at its 80 inside story and i'm 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ruling. hello at least 30 people are now known to have died after troops violently broke up a long running sit in outside the army headquarters in sudan's capital. witnesses say heavily are members of the paramilitary rapid support forces charged into the protesters camped early on monday morning firing bullets and tear gas and the child is among the victims more than $100.00 other people are injured and troops later surrounded 2 hospitals the sudan doctors committee says personnel stormed one of them and fired guns inside well the military has been in charge since ousting longtime president obama in april the generals have resisted protesters demands to put civilians in charge until elections are held priyanka gupta reports. agreed. with the protest is expected it. to dance about its support forces. backed up by the police. shots were fired as unarmed protesters dived for cover. for more than 2. months that protected the sittin outside the awning headquarters. there symbol of defiance and revolution but. i fret. the ribbon like that that gathered in front of the army base because wind and life being shot in the perimeter of the army date the army the right to defend those who are in front of it who are the 3000000000 but now we have been shot right. there coming from different such traits like that which one. where we're being attacked by a rocket pretty shortly and the police. the minute you just to say as the city and was not the target the protest to say. has been done by the joint security force in khartoum was aimed at the columbia district the columbia district is quite close to the city an area the columbia district is attracting all those who have negative impact on society and represent threats to security and safety in khartoum and i'm not talking about we believe that a return to negotiations is the quickest way to resolve the problem. but protests to say there be no more talks. instead they return to the streets in their thousands in khartoum neighboring on their mon and several parts of the country. to monday's violence they're calling for civilian rule has changed into a demand for the removal of the entire military leadership. and the 7 years and not the end of the military council. the end of the end of the. show. to go. protest is a q saddam's notorious paramilitary group known as the rapid support forces headed by general humidity seen here on the left of ordering the violent crackdown the is a deputy leader of the transitional council that has been in charge says omar bashir was deposed in april. 24 hours earlier he was filmed making a veiled threat to protest is want to see civilian drew. we must firmly stand up to the ongoing chaos and build a true state as for the civil state the protesters are demanding to be truly a civil rule with no individual is above it it must be built on the rule of law it must be ruled by and no one is above the law talks between the military jointer and protest leaders was suspended 2 weeks ago after the 2 sides failed to agree on who will lead during the transitional period. the military does says if no progress is made it will call elections before the end of the year a move rejected by the opposition many analysts think the military rulers are being influenced by power was outside sudan the latest this collision in what is already a precarious situation came after the head of the military council of the deputy head and then visited saudi arabia since then significant is collusion both in terms of the toric against the protestors monday's attack and what's been the most potent symbol of sudan's resistance has made a more intense face off between protesters and military rulers who are likely. to see or. also dan's military in a statement said civilian casualties were an unintended consequence of action against what they call dangerous groups large groups of these criminals to crush huge in the sit in square they say prompting the field commanders to pursue them resulting in casualties and injuries the transitional military council expresses its regret over the development of the situation in this manner confirming its full concern for the security of the homeland and the safety of citizens the military council plans to take the necessary measures to achieve this goal and renew the call for negotiations as soon as possible we're getting reaction from the united nations let's bring in our diplomatic edge of james bays how concerned are diplomats of the situation in sudan. they're very concerned about what they've seen in the last few hours we've heard from senior officials in the u.n. system we've heard for the high commission of human rights michel bashir lay who says she strongly deplores what has happened she says for the past few months the protesters in khartoum had been an inspiration because of that peaceful campaign we've also heard from the secretary general of the united nations antonio good terrorists he's issued a statement calling now for independent investigation and for those responsible to the for the violence to be brought to account the statement was read out by his spokesman the secretary general strongly condemns the violence and reports of the excessive force used by security personnel on civilians that have resulted in the deaths and injury of many he condemns the use of force to disperse the protesters at the sit in site and he is alarmed by reports that security forces have opened fire inside medical facilities the secretary general reminds the transitional military council of its responsibility for the safety and security of the citizens of sudan he urges all parties to act with the utmost restraint. well we've also been hearing the words of the european union their top diplomat frederica modeler eenie is here at the u.n. today her office has issued a statement again deploring what has happened in khartoum there is no justification for the use of force to disperse the peaceful city in the e.u. said the one body and the key body in many ways of the international system that hasn't said anything about this is the u.n. security council partly that's because we have a new president of the security council kuwait just taking office for june and the so things are always a bit slow when there's a new country in charge of the u.n. security council but also i think there's a there's some reticence from the 3 african nations that serve on the security council i think they believe that the african union should be the one taking the lead on this issue so no security council meeting scheduled for now in a couple of hours time though we have a news conference from the new president the security council quite so we'll update you for changes ok james bays thank you. so just to pick up on the point of what other diplomats are saying the chairman of the african union commission has strongly condemned the violence and called for those responsible to be held accountable and the u.s. embassy hard term says the attack on protesters and civilians is wrong and must stop the responsibility for stopping the attack lies with the military council while the british ambassador to sudan tweeted that there is no excuse for any such attack and the european union as james was mentioning has also been reacting it fears there is now a real risk to sudan stability. we are following how the situation is evolving in sudan very closely including today's attacks on civilian protesters and we call on the transitional military council to act responsibly and respect people's right to peacefully express their concerns. in. any decision to intensify the use of force can only do rail the political process and as you know the european union's priority remains the rapid transfer of power to visit authority let's speak to rosalind mars then she's a former special representative for sudan and south sudan and also served as british ambassador to sudan she's now an associate fellow of the africa program at chatham house joining us from london thanks very much for being with us once again on al-jazeera so what we're hearing now is a growing chorus of condemnation and concern about the situation in sudan how much pressure do statements like these actually put on the military council in the gentle. well i think i think the military council will be taking this very seriously that may be one reason why they've come out with this claim that they were really targeting the city and they were pursuing criminals although quite clearly they were blocking access to medical facilities in the hospitals and burning down tents in the city city the area they've also claimed that they want to see a rapid return to negotiations i think however that the events of the last day have really represent a very serious escalation of the situation and a setback to efforts to achieve a peaceful settlement a peaceful political settlement the would have brought stability to saddam which i'm sure is what all the neighbors would like to see. the i very much agree with with the statement by michelle bachelet actually the u.n. high commissioner for human rights he described the protests sit down as inspirational i think we've we've we've seen these over the last 5 and a half months the protesters remaining completely peaceful. being a model of nonviolence resistance and one would think that all democracy is who have liberal values would want to get behind them it's also.

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