Transcripts For ALJAZ The Stream 2019 Ep 66 20240714

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shocked too if you could you saw the pictures of how angry they were and how they're attacking a tank with their bare hands or at most a wooden stick so it was i felt very much. in sync with all the people. and listening to that story from you know thirty years ago brings me to a couple comments were getting on you tube right now live this one is from nor saying who says does it still have any importance in the minds of young people in china under xi jinping another person but the. chinese know about the massacre their internet is highly censored so it was i'll give this to you because particularly that last comment about the internet being highly censored something you know very well about. yeah i mean i think you know it's censorship infrastructure in china that should be constructed on the basis of technology based restrictions legal restrictions as well as strategies of social control and information about china. is blocked and policed very heavily and one of the interesting things about this forms of censorship is that it's also imposed outside of china's territorial borders we chad just one of the most popular social media platforms has about one hundred million registered users outside of china and so the censorship controls and it's a bit about tiananmen also transfer outside to affect the chinese diaspora. and it's one of the reasons that the china file you can see them on my laptop here this new site asked people to share their stories of tannin men with a call for personal stories and we translator our team translated one of the responses they got here from someone on twitter who writes in one thousand nine hundred nine my father and his colleagues went to beijing for a meeting which was during the rise of the pro-democracy student movement at the end of the meeting he took the initiative to stay and witness history shanghai urged him to return and he ignored it in june the tragedy took place in the country began to carry out mass arrests my father's organization dismissed him but secretly helped him get a student visa to japan police eventually ceases hotel records and when he returned to china he was placed under house arrest for being mentally ill for a long time so sharing that story on twitter because sharing it on way bo or other or sites in china it not wouldn't necessarily be allowed because of the words than they are the key words and there were no i'm hoping you can pick up on this story of sharing what happened thirty years ago for a generation that may not know the details of it. well china of course have a strong center of the whole war if in fact we have been invented terms like maybe thirty. two to call to force and then amend the war gentleman will always be directed somewhere else. if it's in chinese government clearing tension to wipe the story from history but still every year when these states come there will be people try really hard to come around. and then to do something around the country so i guess that that. kind of hope and then the people in china and not young students and young people in china they are not like our generation they brought they were brought up in the internet generation they when they process information it's much more to form for individual expression. and then in and then they want that they want to keep that they want to be able to do that so feet and everything went and then and then they when they realise the whole china's information flow it's like a manger scene from that like there's no google there is no facebook there is no twitter and then the only way you do it is we call it climbing the wall which is a v.p.n. and like that then it has been declared illegal in china so you can see the effort to try and if government trying to block inform manged in china and then we've got information there is no environment for people to to discuss to debate to exchange ideas so you can sometimes you can feel very frustrated and then you almost feel like the chinese students chinese young people. they don't care but i believe searching for truth and searching for. searching for ideas it's. in our genes and then there will always be people try to learn about. state. i guess so i mean i want to build on that because you know what i want to striking things is that what he just referenced which is me thirty five right which is a term that's used to refer to the jew in thought message is now censored right any reference to it is sense and we chat and also on websites that i access as well in china and you know i think the research that academic research actually demonstrates stead for young you says growing up in china in that kind of environment office and so ship even a few experiment was conducted maybe were given tolls to circumvent the censorship and be did not read take advantage of those tools to access sense that politically sensitive information unless they were given some incentive to do so or being encouraged to do so and so does that was to show that censorship controls in china really don't just stop information from reaching chinese individuals but it has also kind of create this culture of this and gate with politics and cultural and social issues so it's interesting that you say that the disengagement because of course ours there is a segment of society that isn't gauged and they are trying to get around the censors i'll take a look here my laptop you can see a few of the instagram posts of people who are trying to get around those blocks and using very creative ways here it's a pack of cigarettes to represent the tanks that i showed you earlier in that if another person shows the street where those tanks were but it's empty but it's still referencing that same time and here's another one also posted on instagram the sixty four censored pics but then in accordance with what you were saying amos we got a video comment from someone she's a reporter at the verge new york city her name is shannon liao and she says that censorship is everywhere and your average person doesn't realize it so here's what she told the stream. as a result of that censorship people are able to comment on important social issues like looking for you know safe no powder and vaccines for and protesting sexual harassment and promoting come in his room and these kinds of basic social issues are associated with political movements and government kind of stops it from happening from the first up dispensary and so that people can't you know build a political mass or a group that could rise up against them so john she says i point it's to i want to bring you in because she says the point is to stop a political mass and i'm wondering in the days after we saw all such of violence on the streets what happened next and is there a reason why we didn't see a stronger movement that actually was actual. well it days right after the massacre there there was a real crackdown and people were very frightened and they were arresting people and that evening news went on for several hours. it was usually just an hour but it went on for several hours and most of it showed people being rounded up they had clearly been beaten out and so it was kind of a terror and people didn't feel at all. to do anything i wanted to just go back to this internet censorship and it's true that it's very hard with in china but i think we shouldn't forget that so many chinese are studying overseas now it's a huge. trend in china people are coming to europe. to north america at my university where i teach we have lots of chinese students and the point i want to make is. there is no incentive being given to them to check things out but they're starting to wonder and i think just being overseas this gym for the thirtieth anniversary in tandem and square it's going to come up and you know people are always interested in things that they're not supposed to look at and because they know that they're not supposed to look at this i suspect a lot of the chinese students overseas outside of china are going to really look up the history of tiananmen square and find out what's happening there probably tuning into this this show right now and i think that will make a difference because there are many of them will go back to china. and they will be influential because they will look at western education they're at least middle class they're not richer and they're going to be very important people in society and i think that the experience of being in the west without a censored internet. is going to make a big difference in china john achieving talking i've just been looking up the rolling stone they did a story set in years ago about the children of tiananmen square. i see you are one of the children and now i would say that you were one of the fathers of tiananmen square right now look at that young face you are part of that pro-democracy movement in china where is it right now. in democracy we fought for democracy who fought for freedom and we were have been deprived from all freedom of being home to my parents so. you can say that i have been tossed into the world in one of those most free places i live in for. now in taiwan a new flagship democracy. force the contras and then you can we can learn things about china. we understand democracy and freedom much better and then that make us feel. even more. when you may even say about the direction it took the time. from force before to force massacre before nine hundred eighty nine student movement china. was moving to a more open or more three year environment we were pressing the government to feel to go faster in the same direction which is opening but then it took a drastic turn into closing up you can see the skyscrapers in the high speed rail way and over these things thinking this is a country that is opening up but in the matter of fact it is not china it's the crow censorship for information and then they have a very strong presence they control the police they spend more money. in the internal security and their national defense budget which is already very scary the national defense budget is scaring to the neighbors of neighboring countries but then they spend more money was in impressing the dissent within china they have a they actually have a term call it the way you would move maintaining stability and they have a huge budget crisis thank you so much for sharing some of those members and john as well in a most like getting us up to date with what's happening on social and how young people in china outside of china a sinking about the tandem and square massacre thank you so much for being part of the program we really appreciate it but we have this conversation being. hacked online and being conducted online i think people are learning and can see the comments in you tube with people who are seeing this for the first time. thank you very much for watching today's. the strange how if i look at myself online at strain on twitter. how have you changed since you were severed. charging the lives of the children of a part of a twenty one years story reflecting a history of dramatic social and political change twenty eight south africa to al-jazeera. examining the headlines a collapsed economy means that many people are struggling to survive setting the discussions people have to wait i don't think you can. share in personal stories with a global audience explore an abundance of world class programming designed to inform the media's motivate and inspire. the world is watching on al-jazeera. talk to al-jazeera we urge your just back from yemen what was the glimpse of the country the gods we listen to the children are deeply affected because of war we meet with global news makers and talk about the stories that matter now does their own. conservation is helping to recover its snow leopard population to see the results i traveled up to the remote nature reserve of saudi chat at a touch camera traps have identified a healthy population of up to twenty snow leopards as the technology improves we're finding all these ways in which i guess is. are are getting corrected the latest evidence suggests there are more cats than previously acknowledged but this snow leopard trust believes it's premature to downgrade the cats on the international list of threatened species. police issue a nationwide alert for suspect vehicles as church services are suspended in the capital. the whole roman you're watching others their life my headquarters here and there are also coming up three senior members of saddam's military council resigned the protesters say they want all their demands met. also south africa's president pledges help for the many floods and landslides victims who've lost their homes. and under renewed fire the u.s. president battles to fight attempts to impeach him as democrats push for new investigations. security services in sri lanka remain on high alert following sunday's multiple bomb attacks a nationwide alert has been issued with the police searching for nine vehicles catholic church services in colombo have been suspended but may resume on sunday subject to an all clear the central bank was locked down for a time following a warning about an imminent explosion multiple suicide bombings on easter sunday killed three hundred fifty nine people and wounded hundreds more. meanwhile a new video has emerged reportedly showing a suicide bomber at a restaurant in the center of a grand hotel in the capital colombo on sunday he was carrying a similar backpack to suspected bombers identified in other locations police say eight out of the nine suicide bombers have been identified. from. the investigation continuing to revolving around vehicles. that's right the police spokesman has confirmed to us that this is a country wide alert that they have issued they are looking for nine specific vehicles now remember the police said yesterday that they believe that there are still several suspects who were involved in sunday's a types who are still at large now police also a rest of sixteen people in a special operation during a raid overnight so this brings to the total number of people that police have arrested to seventy six now in this situation here still remains very very tense in fact there has been a very visible increase in security presence we were id checks by air force personnel it shows that it's not just the soldiers and the police were on the streets we're also seeing naval and air forces patrolling the streets now and the church the archdiocese of colombo has also told al-jazeera that there will be no sunday mass celebrated in churches in colombo because of the security situation so this is and don't forget is operating on a limited state of emergency at the moment it gives security forces why do powers to detain and interrogate people and there have been also at least one explosion a mine explosion in the town of the gaudet forty kilometers east of here that may have been a controlled explosion that means it was a make a bomb disposal experts detonating defusing a bomb or carrying out the blowing up a suspicious package because they think there may be explosives hidden inside but this really shows the sort of portions that security forces are taking because of how tense and uncertain that situation is here to do the really moving parts to this investigation which can to. florence a part of it now focuses on this new c.c.t.v. footage that's emerged. that's right now and presumably or rather security forces may have had access to this footage to know but we're only thing at now it shows one of the bombers at the cinema in grand hotel at the hotel restaurant and he was carrying a backpack so really very similar to the security footage captured at the st sebastian church in the gumbo and also the shangrila hotel the purported suicide bombers were also carrying backpacks down security services police have confirmed that the attacks were carried out by suicide bombers now what we're also hearing is that in fact this has been reported by local media that two of the suspects were sons of a wealthy spice trader in sri lanka and the father has also been picked up in connection with the investigation there are reports saying that he is suspected of helping with the attacks but not sure whether it could have been in coordinating the attacks or perhaps funding it financially now on the worrying thing that has emerged from police investigation is that several of these suicide bombers come from wealthy or middle class families so they're not your typical muslim extremists who vote even educated at the draft says these are people who had the opportunity to travel abroad many of them had degrees one even had a post-graduate degree so really the top down for the police and the security services in sri lanka is not only arresting the perpetrators and people involved in connection with the attacks on sunday but also finding out how the bombers had been radicalized and rooting out extremism in sri lanka before it takes root of course the president you must take you prominent role really in trying to calm the nerves of the country. by bringing faith leaders together and also attending funerals. that's right and in fact this afternoon he's going to be holding a meeting with an interfaith vizor a committee now this is important because in the first couple of hours after the attacks took place on sunday there were several isolated events where muslim properties were targeted and then on wednesday hundred. refugees from pakistan. in. one of the cities that was targeted on sunday there were only a few attacks harassment cases against muslims but these cases were enough to cause panic and confusion among the community and religious leaders have been very keen to say to their community that there shouldn't be any blame laid on the muslim community we've heard this statement from monks we've heard it from the archbishop of colombo so really there's also anxiety that these attacks on sunday may cause why do a religious conflict on the island and nobody here wants to see that indeed for the moment will even. be there in colombo. will have a top story that we're following here on sudanese protest leaders are increasing pressure on the country's army by calling for a large rally to demand a civilian government three senior members of sudan's ruling military council accused of a crackdown on protesters have resigned but this comes after a meeting between the military leaders and a coalition of protest organizers and political parties the council says it's reached a deal on most of the protesters demands but both sides have also agreed to set up a committee to iron out disagreements after talks broke down earlier in the week but there's still no word on whether and how soon the military will hand over power to civilians. more on this from car too. the resignation of general zinni in the lab the dean general dylan. and general tayyiba big career is seen as a huge boost to the porter's leaders because this was a key demand they had accused the three generals who were members of the transitional military council of being synonymous with the rule of bush either and having some of them participating in the crackdown on dissent on protesters in the early days of the protests and now it also shows that the transitional military council is willing to bend back words to accommodate the protest leaders did months but the key demand is quickly to civilian rule this is the main bone of contention of the moment the transitional military council maintains that there can be no vacuum because they say sudan could go into civil war and that is not an agreement which has been hired by the other side the protest leaders on thursday they are planning a million mom march issue but their demand for quick with time to civilian rule is had once and for all by the transitional military council. russian president vladimir putin the north korean leader kim jong il have had the first face to face meeting in the city of light of all stock putin says they have a substantial discussion on the denuclearization of the korean peninsula kim jong un told the media he wants to talk about ways to strategically promote stability and jointly manage the regional situation the two are expected to talk about bilateral trade as well steadfast in his line for us in vladivostok the meeting seems to have gone very well now that they've sort of shaken hands and parted ways . exactly there was a very very long handshake at the end of a very long meeting which lasted around five hours all together there was this private meeting they had and then they had a meeting with a larger delegation and then they had a reception and both leaders spoke at this reception not much about concrete plans but a lot of words about their future relationship and put in sad that there was no other option than a peaceful solution for the nuclear nuclear problems on the korean peninsula he also said that he basically mentioned a korean wisdom he said if you join forces you can move iraq so that his key word here was working together he's urging the international community to come together and work on the new corolla sation of north korea together basically aiming for the revival of the six party talks that collapsed in two thousand and nine this is the way putin sees a role for himself back on the issue here in east asia came to have some very flattering words for putting himself he said he looked up to put in the strength and the fitness of the leader and also that he admired how he has been facing internal but also acts sternal challenge and challenges basically referring probably to the challenges both of the countries are facing from the united states and this is something of course they have in common they have been suffering from sanctions from the united states and the united nations for quite a while and both of these leaders want these sanctions to be lifted course to be meeting itself. really just improves really the global positioning that's what they really wanted was that north korea showing that it can house meetings with senior nations around the world like russia and russia showing that it's still a regional influence in a global power that even if you alienated from the main global forum you still have to deal with russia in some shape or form. exactly it's basically two months after the the meeting between donald trump and kim jong un in her noise failed and so this is putting step in stepping in becoming a mediator offering his help saying that russia can play a role here of course he has been left out of the loop for quite a while he invited kim jong un to come to russia a year ago already and he had to wait a long time fly very far to actually meet him here in florida of stock i think they're both very happy you how everything was and there were a lot of smiles the well lot of nice 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