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quo, but that he did insist that president zelensky go to a microphone and say that he is opening investigations of biden and 2016 election interference and that president zelensky should want to do this himself. you don t have any reason to dispute both ambassador taylor s and mr. morrison s testimony about that conversation, do you? no. on september 8th, you then had a conversation directly with ambassador taylor about this same phone call where ambassador taylor said that you confirmed that you spoke to president trump as he had suggested earlier to you and that president trump was adamant that president zelensky himself, meaning not the prosecutor general, had to, quote, clear things up and do it in public, unquote. you don t have any reason to think that ambassador taylor s
did you retire to the ward room? i think secretary perry asked to use the ward room to continue the conversation. the real subject that was under debate and i wasn t an angry debate should the call from president trump to president zelensky be made prior to the parliamentary elections in ukraine or after the parliamentary elections. and there was good reason for both. we felt, ambassador perry, ambassador volker and i felt it would help president zelensky to have president trump speak to him prior to the elections because it would give president zelensky more credibility and ultimately he would do better with his people in the parliamentary elections. others i believe pushed back and said, no, it s not appropriate to do before, it should be done after. and ultimately it was done
assure president trump that he would do these investigations in a phone call. in my e-mail i obviously had just spoken with him, he being zelensky, and he said that he was prepared to receive the call and he would make those assurances to president trump on that call, and then presumably that would then lead to the white house meeting. you had been discussing this phone call for several weeks now, is that right? yes, with volker, with perry, with giuliani through volker and perry. and then right after you sent this e-mail assuring the others that he will discuss the investigations and turn over every stone, the burisma and 2016 election investigations, mr. mulvaney responded that he asked to set up the call for the
on the lawn on a nice sunny day. did you retire to the ward room? i think secretary perry asked to use the ward room to continue the conversation. and theco real subject that was under debate, and it wasn t an angry debate, it wasan a debate just should the call from president trump to president zelensky be made prior to the parliamentary elections in ukraine or after the parliamentary elections. and there was good reason for both. we felt, ambassador perry, ambassador volker and i, thought it would help president zelensky to have president trump speak to him prior to the parliamentary elections because it would give president zelensky more credibility and ultimately he would do better with his people in the parliamentary elections. others, i believe, pushed back and said no, it s not appropriate to do it before, it should be done after. and ultimately it was done after.