the creep has crept. this has already started as helene said. this isn t the first boot but 50 very quickly can become a lot more than 50 one thing they can do is be more effective coordinators on the ground for the u.s. air strikes. one of the frequent criticisms of the current strategy is we have an air strike policy but only two air strikes a week. so once you get some coordinators on the ground it may changed. i asked governor bush and i asked him about the idea that we wouldn t have isis without the invasion of iraq, he rejected that. but listen to what he wants with syria. the better argument is the surge worked. a fragile iraq existed. had we kept 5,000 or 10,000 troop there is, had we engaged politically to show support to the central government, had we also showed support to the kurds and armed them directly that we
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bush was former texas governor john con nally. he ran for president in 1980. 14 years after being reelected as governor of texas as a democrat. he outraised everyone in the republican primary and famously won just one delegate. the only other candidate we could find that waited a decade between runs for office was jeb s father, george h.w. bush. he waited ten years and lost the nomination to ronald reagan. coming up, my interview with the new speaker of the house, wisconsin republican paul ryan. t the belle of the ball. gentlemen. you look well. what s new, flo? well, a name your price tool went missing last week. name your what, now? it gives you coverage options based on your budget. i just hope whoever stole it knows that it only works at progressive.com. so, you can t use it to just buy stuff? no. i m sorry, gustav. we have to go back to the pet store. [ gustav squawks ] he s gonna meet us there. the name your price tool. still only at progressive.com.
they lend themselves to that. we saw this with president obama and a lot of us had thoughts about where he would go, how he would lead that didn t pan out for most of his term because i think actual reform, actually changing a party takes a tremendous amount of political courage and conviction. it doesn t happen just by having an idea of what future looks like and you have to display that courage and when you haven t governed and don t have that level of experience we don t know if you have the steel and the willingness for conflict it takes to get that done. the irony here, anne, we were talking about it before break, sometimes the younger politicians who we think are fresh and new and talking about these new ideas, they re more risk averse. one misconception about barack obama, i think, from 08 to 09 is that he was a risk averse more risk averse than people realized. jeb bush of all he s the most fully formed individual, he might be the least risk averse. and i don t think
the panel is back. david, we talked about jeb bush in 1956 but the other point we were making and we saw with paul ryan, as the republicans are having this fight amongst themselves as who they are, are they stumbling upon the generational change? it looks that way. you have to walk through the circus to get to the think tank. but if they wound up with rubio and ryan, they re attractive figures, normal, nice guys but they re generational, they re younger. that presents a problem for hillary but they get the problems of this century which means they re not going back to reagan let s cut taxes and say bad stuff about government. they understand as ryan said to you that working families are struggling even when growth is okay. so government has to do extra stuff to focus with wage subsidies and other things on working families. that s a real message for america today and a lot of