friend rodriguez. he is an art i have activist who i have respect for. her oppression creates artists for border change. i attended one of their events at the border. see, there. and where we re reuniting in busy by arizona. thank you for coming to arizona. it s a trip because it s been like six years. yes one of the things i remember seeing was an artistic depiction of at that point president obama and under him or over him and around him the words deporter in chief. um-hum. i was like, hey, but obama is the best, everything he does. some people on the left like to sort of always demonize the bad policies from the right. oh, hell, no. no. i mean obama had taken office in 2008. and he really helped build the deportation apparatus that is what trump is using now. he implemented programs such as secure communities and said okay local police need to share data wnl i.c.e. a and so he really grew the entire system and as a result you saw deportations at the highest they been for
need to share their data with i.c.e., and so he really grew the entire system and as a result you saw deportations at the highest they had ever been for any president. we re talking at rates of over 1,000 a day, about 1 million people. wow. why is it that people who are quote, unquote anti-immigration, why don t they see those as families or people that need and their family needed help? i think words and language create inconscious bias, symbols, imagery, because in the 90s i remember watching tv and seeing the commercials that say invasion. they keep coming. 2 million illegal immigrants in california. you would see brown guys running are, and the symbol of the border has been such a powerful symbol, really in creating a very lasting anti-immigrant wave. yeah. now let s talk about the wall. yeah. the physical, like, you know, as an artist, how you see it, what your thoughts are when you hear about them building a bigger wall, a more powerful
secure communities and said okay local police need to share data wnl i.c.e. a and so he really grew the entire system and as a result you saw deportations at the highest they been for any president. talking at rights over 1,000 a day. about 2 million people. wow! yeah. why is it people quote unquote anti-immigration buy why don t they see these as families and people who need help. i think words and language create unconscious bias. symbols, imagery, because in the 90s i remember watching tv and seeing the commercials that stay invasion. they keep coming. 2 million illegal immigrants in california. you would see round guys running and symbol of the border has been such a powerful symbol really in creating a lasting anti-immigrant waive. now let s talk about the wall. yeah. like as an artist how you see it what your thoughts are when